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Started by #132188 at 25,Nov,14 10:22
I see a few disgruntled patrons in forum saying this site isn't much.


Any site can't run on love nor convenience. The only way this site can evolve is paying member's.


I can hear it now.... Why should I?


Well many reasons. Two I can roll off the top of my head is


1. Sites run on advertising


2.Development


And really the price of admission is cheap per month soooo.... Contribute, memberships fit all budgets.


Help Nimda (Admin) out to provide the best for all

Yes many others reasons too... servers etc, but



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By #428387 at 25,Nov,14 11:16
May I just say Dev .A good idea but quite a lot of members are pensioners and $14 .95 is beyond there budget and one you take out a membership it is a reoccurring payment every month not just a one off .And also not many have the luxury of a bank account or credit card .And of cause there is always the chance that the site will become a paid member club in the end .Just saying.
By #132188 at 25,Nov,14 11:33
Yep that was in my mind and I don't ridicule ones that can't but The nature of the b3ast = free, I mean the whole www is basically free, but the old adage of ( you get what you pay for) is so true.


That being said out of the member statistics maybe only 250 paying member's ( the figures only admin would know) and surely it's not a lot to ask . I don't pay to see dick or cunt, maybe I should have Facebook but love my friends here.


Some say it's just the internet and I say yep, but I have met in person so many nice people and on Skype I love the place.


All I'm saying is anyone that CAN afford it should part with some cash flow otherwise it will cease to exist.


By admin at 25,Nov,14 12:06 other posts of admin 
It was never 250 even at best times. 200 tops.

But it's pointless to ask people to pay anyway. I think people are just not getting what they need here.

And www is not that free as you may think. There are ads, exploits, malware, data gathering. And I did not even sell your email addresses and never sent spam to any of you, while most of sites do this. Not that I'm saint, just trying to do not do to people what I would not like to be done to me.
By #477919 at 25,Nov,14 12:30
I got everything i wanted from here. Am in a solid relationship with a beautiful girl i met here 2 yrs ago...yet, i've returned three times and bought points and been gifted premium membership in the the 2 times that i've returned (amounting less than 2wks to date) in the last 3 and a 1/2 weeks (after an 11mth hiatus).
At least you can be sure that the people that do spend money here do it because they like the tight community on this site and the way it operates
By #132188 at 25,Nov,14 12:35
100% my friend, that's what's gonna make it work.

I have invested too much time and Money for it to fail.
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I would even make a substantial contribution if it helped but it needs more supporters
By bella! at 25,Nov,14 13:01 other posts of bella! 
Yes, the site does have members that are generous and giving and in the same token, the site has members that are happy to just receive. Perhaps one day, those that receive will reciprocate.
By #444014 at 13,Dec,14 11:01
If you give to receive,you are doing it for the wrong reason in the first place.....not everyone can reciprocate with grand gestures that ultimately mean nothing in the grand scheme of things....
By bella! at 13,Dec,14 11:37 other posts of bella! 
I agree that if one gives to receive then the giving is being done for the wrong reason. But in the grand scheme of things and in life, the world is full of givers as well as takers. Takers do not need reciprocate 'with grand gestures that ultimately mean nothing in the grand scheme of things.....', however they are what they are, takers.



By #477919 at 25,Nov,14 13:23
and admin, i'm sure, is very aware of very big funders like you (Dev) and big9inch21
By admin at 25,Nov,14 14:53 other posts of admin 
I'm aware of big funders, and I'm grateful to them. But honestly I would prefer that many people paid small than several pay big portions. It's very unstable with big funders and sometimes they behave like they own the site (I'm not talking about anyone in this thread) and it gets even more complicated when 2 big funders start fighting each other.

But apparently this site does not meet expectations of masses. And it's a pity.
By #23212 at 27,Nov,14 06:34
Some of us 'small funders' I'm sure, would like the option to make ONE TIME credit card payments to this site that we enjoy using. This I would think would help if a good number of us did this, one time, or on an every few months basis. Admin, please consider allowing one-time credit card payment, and perhaps your funding will increase. Thank you.
By admin at 12,Dec,14 13:32 other posts of admin 
Not sure what you are talking about. You can purchase points, it's one time payment, no rebills whatsoever.
By #23212 at 13,Dec,14 05:47
Thank admin. I have now done this.
I was trying to just support this site, that I enjoy very much, and had not thought about the need for any points. But I see now that this is an excellent way to give support, with a non-rebilling method, especially for those of us with a very limited income.







By dickisgreat at 19,Feb,15 16:45 other posts of dickisgreat 
200 members? Does that also include people buying points, or only members as such? Either way, I feel bad; it's really low.

Did you ever try lower rates to see if that would get more paying members and/or points buyers?

I feel bad now, like a freeloader. I'm gonna buy some points even though I don't really need them, just to support the site because it is great.
By bella! at 19,Feb,15 18:34 other posts of bella! 
If you can swing it, I suggest buying a 3 month reoccurring membership, as I recall, it averages out to less than $12.00 per month.


Of course buying points will help! But don't spend $14.95 and figure that's all there is to it. Use your points by voting on pictures and sending gifts and when those points are gone, buy MORE! Points aren't like money in the bank where you're paid a dividend for saving, not spending!


By dickisgreat at 19,Feb,15 16:50 other posts of dickisgreat 
Related comment, on site layout:

Having membership purchasing and points purchasing in separate locations on the site is confusing. I wasn't clear on the difference until today when I stumbled on this thread. Just my opinion.





By #445126 at 26,Nov,14 13:45
I am perfectly happy to be a paying member. I use the site often and generally, in life, one pays for what one receives. I'm glad the administration works as hard as it does on our behalf. Thank you for that. --shorttop
By Dalecash at 12,Dec,14 19:40 other posts of Dalecash 
I agree with shorttop, I have visited this site quite regularly for nearly 3 years now and am quite happy to make my contribution. As Decent007 also said, it costs much less than my morning coffee. If I thought it too much I just wouldn't pay it instead of whining about it.



By #472648 at 25,Nov,14 13:11
I wish I could contribute but I do not have a credit card nor am I getting one I've thought about buying a membership tons of times and then remembered I can't. The one I have now was a gift (that I'm very thankful for).
By #124665 at 25,Nov,14 21:54
Capital One will give you credit, just go to their site n fill out an app I still have my card, it's so perty, leopard print
By admin at 26,Nov,14 11:52 other posts of admin 
I never had credit card in my life. I just don't like an idea of owing someone. I use debit cards in ATM and shopping, and virtual and gift cards for internet payments. Many banks offer them now even in third-world countries.

Financial sphere has changes a lot, it's not easy anymore to open account in some Caribbean bank and almost impossible to have an anonymous ATM card that different institutions (not even banks) were offering 15 years ago, but on the other hand it's much easier to get a virtual card for internet payments now. I just buy them from a shop. Pay let's say $53 and in 1 minute I have a fresh new number and cvv with $50 balance that is good to pay almost anywhere on internet. Some even offer rechargeable virtual cards you can add balance to or withdraw the rest from.

But I guess most of people don't know this...
By #124665 at 26,Nov,14 12:56
Yes like a pre paid card or gift card.. I don't like owing anyone either, but seeing as I can't pay cash for my house or certain unexpected circumstances and what not, having a line of credit is the next best option. Had it not been for having credit I'd have either starved or bankrupted myself in the past.. That said, debt does suck and if you're not careful it's easy to get into, like a vagina O.o But the whole American dream thing is all lies, a credit card is good for when I'm broke from bills and need to buy beer to drown my demons


By #472648 at 26,Nov,14 18:44
Thats the thing, I don't wanna have a credit card. I know how I am with money (not good). Here in the Netherlands you really don't need one for anything really anyway so that would mean the only reason i would have one is to buy a membership here.
By admin at 26,Nov,14 18:54 other posts of admin 
As I said above, you do not need a credit card to make a purchase over internet. You can have virtual card with limited balance. Basically that is just a string of numbers. You buy it for a fixed amount, you use it, you forget it.

I'm not insisting that you pay and not blaming anyone for not paying, but you should at least know that you do not need a credit card to pay on internet today.

By #124665 at 12,Dec,14 11:06
So there you don't need credit? To buy a home or anything? Anyway, a good enough fucken reason anyway.. You can also use your bank card.. Life is all just lessons, and how you control the demons in your head. You CAN be good with money, and you HAVE to, and it's not as hard as you think. Just a little discipline is all. Like most things. Just remember you're in control. Your destiny, everything, you make it. You set the stage, you're the director, producer and writer of your own life. So take control of it. Fucker :p





By #124665 at 25,Nov,14 22:08
Some months I might only spend an hour or two on here, but I still support this site and always will. I got a bunch of other bills like everyone else n I don't make a shit ton of money. People spend $4 everyday on their Starbucks fancy coffee n then cry broke bah! There is plenty of free porn n shit out there, but this site is unique, a niche maybe, we get all kinds Maybe Dev, if we shell out enough dollars, someday Admin will give us more evil smileys to play with
By #431354 at 26,Nov,14 01:03
fuck the smilies I want something more demented
By #124665 at 26,Nov,14 12:59
Right right, I want the cute lil face that snorts a line of coke, or the pill popper one 💩
By #444014 at 27,Nov,14 04:02
By #124665 at 12,Dec,14 10:52
Fucking assholes






By #444014 at 25,Nov,14 22:55
Just a thought about payment methods..

A lot of people use mobile devices, there must be some sort of way to send a text message to a premium rate number at a set price...admin would like steady income,so people can send a text for a minimum amount and get points to their account...I am sure people would spend 5 bucks a week to get a 1000 points...

How this would work would need a changing of the points to money ratio though....double the points for the money paid.
By admin at 26,Nov,14 00:16 other posts of admin 
I tried to find working solution, but most of them seem to not be available for small guys like me. And those that are available are just a joke. I installed what seemed to be best of them here couple of years ago, and asked several members from different countries to try and tried myself - it did not work in any country.



By #477919 at 25,Nov,14 11:34
JohnS wanted me to comment that for members who do not possess credit cards, there should be an option for PayPal or some other form of direct transfer to purchase premium membership
By #132188 at 25,Nov,14 11:50
Any bank these days 2014 have a Debit facility on the card


PayPal don't condone sex sites.


Maybe Admin could do bitcoin.... Only joking

And anyway being a fakehunter ( on the net ) pays off evidently.
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And just for the record, I'm not having a go just stating some facts.
By admin at 25,Nov,14 13:24 other posts of admin 
I do accept bitcoin. Most of people have no idea what it is. In whole time only 2 bitcoin payments were made.


By admin at 25,Nov,14 11:53 other posts of admin 
I don't know how many times should I repeat that PayPal does not allow payments for adult content sites. If I do that I would have my account blocked almost instantly.

Same goes for most of other systems. You can literally count on fingers all third-party payment processors that allow adult in this whole world.

Sometimes I wonder why I'm still doing this. Constant problems with payments since 2003 (before it was much easier), after 2006 many banks can close your account if they learn the money come from "porn", and now add problems with search engines to that...






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