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A Call to Remember and Memorialize the Holocaust

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Started by #172995 at 09,Apr,12 22:35
Holocaust Memorial Day (Yom HaShoah) begins at sundown on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 and ends at sundown on Thursday, April 19, 2012.

"Holocaust studies are very important. We are living in a time when the last Holocaust survivors, the victims and eyewitnesses to the atrocity, are dying out. Holocaust denial and anti-Semitism are on the rise, and it’s important for people to know what happened." — Rabbi Dr. Michael Schiffman, Executive Director, Chevra USA.

History repeats itself. Incredibly, the Nazi Holocaust was organized by the same Germanic tribes who orchestrated the Crusades and the Inquisitions.

Its almost enough to think that the Germanic tribes who conquered the Western Roman empire invented modern racism.

Feudalism, the Inquisition, and Scholastic theology were clearly the work of the Germanic tribes (including the Franks, Germans, Lombards, Normans, and Goths) who took over the Church and her property at swordpoint, and used the religion of the Romans to keep the conquered Romans in a servile state.

The Franks and the other Germanic peoples, by the very nature of their birth, believed that they were a noble race superior to the Romans, "Greeks" (East Romans), and Slavs. The natural result of this superiority is that the Germanic races, especially the Franks, Normans, Lombards, and, finally, the Germans, should produce a theology better than that of the Romans. Augustine of Hippo, John Calvin and Martin Luther were too stupid to be heretics.

FRANKS, ROMANS, FEUDALISM, AND DOCTRINE — [ Part 1 ]
[ Part 1 ] - [ Part 2 ] - [ Part 3 ]
AN INTERPLAY BETWEEN THEOLOGY AND SOCIETY
© John S. Romanides


EXAMPLES OF THE SCIENCE OF THE ETHNIC CLEANING OF ROMAN HISTORY
AND A VISION OF THE FUTURE
UNITED STATES OF FRANCO-ROMANIA
Hellenic College Lecture October 17, 1998[ 1 ] Modified[ 2 ] Brookline, Mass. USA

Adonai says: “… I will bless those who bless [Israel], And the one who curses [Israel] I will curse.” — Gen. 12:3



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By kneelsoften at 11,Apr,12 15:37 other posts of kneelsoften 
"You become what you h a t e" - M. Ghandi


Now the Israelis are the facists.
By #164428 at 12,Apr,12 04:13
Unfortunately, some Israelis (fundamentalists) are at war with some Palestinians (also fundamentalists). They each see one piece of land as holy for their own religious reasons, and they are going to keep fighting to the death over it. Most ordinary citizens on both sides don't support it. So sad. I wish we could all get along, and live and let live.

There were many ordinary German citizens who did not support the Nazi regime as well. It's usually a few fanatical people at the helm of such regimes.
By #220710 at 13,Apr,12 00:15
Problem is "ordinary Germans" obeyed those "few" fanatics.
That's not exactly unique in history.




By #146919 at 11,Apr,12 05:58
for what ever reason the cold blooded murder of more than six million people,men ,women and **** is a heinous crime and it should never be forgoten.do not forget how ever it was not just the jews the nazis killed on mass gypsies,political prisoners,trade unionists,priests,communists,the mentaly ill,homosexuals,freedom fighters are among many. hole villages and towns wiped out for no reason and especially do not forget the russian prisoners of war,nobody knows how many died while in german captivaty, were all murdered by the nazi henchmen and the evil ragime.the murder of the jews was just one of many atrocities commited by this vile regime but please do not forget the others that suffered under it too.
By #220710 at 13,Apr,12 00:12
All true.
BUT -- Let's not forget Stalin, who has the heavyweight title in genocide. And HE was USA's WWII pal!
And, speaking of genocide, the USA is no slouch, either. Ask an Indian -- if you can find one.
That's not to diminish the crimes of those nazi sob's. It's just for a little perspective. What the nazis did wasn't the first incidence of genocide and it wasn't the last, according to the late-breaking news.



By #172995 at 12,Apr,12 20:07
Dietrich Bonhoeffer, the noted German theologian who stood up to Hitler, said, "Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act. Not facing evil is itself evil."


By bigone21 at 11,Apr,12 22:25 other posts of bigone21 
people! please! STOP feeding this guy JimmyFunBoy!!

i know, we only want to respond out of reason, but he has NO sympathy for reason!!

i was the first one in this thread that responded, and i regret i did!

"JimmyFunBoy seems to be a male, 71 years old, bisexual, interested in both men and women, claims to be living in United States, Paso Robles, California and speaks English, No cam, No text, last seen:2 minutes ago Main goal of being on this site: Little bit of everything"

so far so good, but this guy, in my view likes to throw a molotov-cocktail into the forum and has a party reading the reactions of people who are burned by his actions!

only one way to go!! STOP answering, stop commenting on ALL he says, the stupid discussion will bleed to death!!
IGNORE this guy!! don't give him time of day!
By #105042 at 11,Apr,12 23:01
I wonder how we can treat people like him not being accessable for reason without giving up democratic basement. Ignoring? Forbidding? Iґm afraid both wouldnґt stop him. The main question is: how can the world get rid of ANY religion? I have no answer. I just want to love the ones who are trying
By bigone21 at 12,Apr,12 00:24 other posts of bigone21 
NOT forbidding, ignoring (if we can!)

but i don't have the answers!

the amercan politics are hi-jacked by right-wing-christians that deny anybody other rights than their own right-wing rights, and in my own country (the netherlands), politics are hi-jacked by a right-wing populist that takes my great country down beyond belief!!
i have only one vote.... but i have a voice!!

and that voice will say: **** is NO solution!!
By bigone21 at 12,Apr,12 00:25 other posts of bigone21 
**** = h a t e





By #172995 at 11,Apr,12 22:14
"How odd of God

To choose the Jew;

But, not so odd

As those who choose the Jewish G_d

and **** the Jew."

From Christianity is a Jewish Religion

by Edith Schaeffer


In his book, Remembrance and Repentance, author and recognized Holocaust educator, Daniel Hennessy, shares from his depth of knowledge about this subject and exposes the church's lack of response during the Holocaust and, perhaps even more tragically, the church's lack of acknowledgement and response after the Holocaust. He implores us to remember what happened and how our silence contributed to the nightmare, and encourages us to learn from the mistakes of the past to change the future.


The "Church" did not replace Israel.


By #172995 at 11,Apr,12 15:01
Modern Westerners are getting it wrong because they are interpreting the Bible through the wrong hermeneutic. The Bible was written thousands of years ago in terms of Ancient Near Eastern Culture, Language and Thought. Greek Philosophy was invented after the Alexanderian Conquests. The Hebraic thought of the Bible is softer, more compassionate and more tolerant than the Modern Western or Greek thought of today.


Greek Philosophy or Greek Thought is flawed because it cannot handle conflict.


Hebraic Thought is Biblical.


Greek Philosophy or Greek Thought is pagan.


Hard religion comes from Greek Philosophy. The Greeks murdered anybody who disagreed with them.


If you want to understand the Bible, study it in Israel.


By #68656 at 10,Apr,12 08:40
The doctrine used in the original post is flawed.
However and the most concerning fact of all is that articles like that misrepresent Christianity and Christians generally.
By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 20:44
Western Churchanity is based on a lie.


Western Churchianity is corrupt because it wraps the Bible around Greek Philosophy (i.e. Greek paganism).


Western Churchanity murders the Bible because it wraps the Bible around Greek philosophy (i.e., Greek paganism).


Western Churchanity is loaded with Greek and Roman paganism.


Western Churchianity has no moral authority because Greek paganism has no moral authority.


The Deductive Logic of Greek philosophy is the thinking process of the devil.


Yeshua (Jesus) of Nazarith was a Jewish Rabbi, an Orthodox Jew and a Pharasee, not a Greek philosopher standing on top of Mars Hill.


Denial that Yeshua (Jesus) was Jewish is anti-Semitic.


The Anti-Semitism embedded in Western Churchianity was used to justify the Holocaust.
By #172995 at 11,Apr,12 04:45
The main cause of Anti-Semitism is ignorance. The main cause of Christian Anti-Semitism is ignorance of the the Jewish Roots of Christianity. I have no problems with sincere, faithful Christians who want to learn. My problem is with Christians who willfully choose to be ignorant.




By #164428 at 09,Apr,12 23:05
I'm Of Jewish heritage, and on my father's side, it's German Jewish.

I always remember the atrocities. A good movie, and I prefer the Italian version with subtitles, is "Life Is Beautiful". It's about how a man tries to protect his family and survive through humor while they're in the concentration camp. It's very poignant and heart-wrenching, but a very good movie.
By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 05:18
It makes me angry when I hear anti-semitism. I have Jewish friends who lost half of their families in the Nazi Holocaust. They are the most loving people that I have ever met.
By #164428 at 10,Apr,12 05:47


It angers me, too.
By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 21:07
Esp. when the anti-semitism is undercover, stealthy and sneaky.


There is a book titled "Our Hands are Stained with ****: The Tragic Story of the "Church" and the Jewish People" written by Michael L. Brown, Destiny Image Publishers.


Every Christian should be required to read this book.


FYI: The loaded question "Are you Christian or Jewish?" comes directly from the Inquisitions.





By bigone21 at 09,Apr,12 22:59 other posts of bigone21 
this is to shocking to be true...

why are you posting this at this site???

i know what happened in WW2! my father lived the KZ-lager (concentrationcamp) Neuengamme...

all HELL of his memories broke loose when i was 9 years old! my fathers concentrationcamp syndrome became mine, because i had to take care of him and protect him! from 9 years old yes! i know VERY MUCH what happened!!

and now you post this, i am in tears! my father is gone, i have peace with my life, and you post this! yes! you get me off-balance!

yes, i H A T E this post to be on this site!! i was NOT prepared for that!!
By bigone21 at 09,Apr,12 23:32 other posts of bigone21 
the horror that happened in all these camps in WW2 must NEVER be forgotten, and must ALWAYS be a focus on how we DO NOT want that to EVER happen again! the lesson:

don't h a t e anybody!! try, try and try harder!! h a t e is NO solution for anything!!
By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 05:22




By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 05:15
Everybody should watch the Academy Award winning film titled "Schlindler's List" by Stephen Spielberg. It is not pleasant to watch. It is a powerful story that tells how a Righteous Gentile named Oskar Schindler saved thousands of Jewish lives.


By #172995 at 10,Apr,12 05:03
Dietrich Bonhoeffer is a heroic Gentile who stood up to the Nazis.


“First they came for the Communists, but I was not a Communist so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Socialists and the Trade Unionists, but I was neither, so I did not speak out. Then they came for the Jews, but I was not a Jew so I did not speak out. And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me.”
Dietrich Bonhoeffer


Dietrich Bonhoeffer (1906-1945) is known for his leadership role in the Lutheran Church, efforts on behalf of peace and justice, opposition to antisemitism, and writings on theology and ethics that have been influential far beyond his German Lutheran context. He was hanged by the Nazis on April 6, 1945 in the Flossenburg concentration camp.





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