OUT OF THEIR PROFITS!!! Isn't that clear?
McDonald's STILL makes profit in my country, and not a little bit either.
So do hair salons, food delivery services, supermarkets, drugstores, internet providers, insurance companies, movie theaters, gym chains, the train, airlines, private educational courses, etc. They all exist in my country, pay better wages, offer better services, and are either more affordable or have similar prices.

We just don't transfer as much money from the average citizen to the wealthy
like you do in the US.

You are assuming corporations use "cost-plus" pricing (blindly adding a fixed profit markup on top of their expenses). They don't. They use value-based pricing, centered entirely on finding the price optimum.

• The Price Optimum Formula: A corporation continuously tests the market to find the exact intersection where Price Ч Sales Volume yields the absolute maximum total profit. They always charge the maximum price the local market can tolerate before demand collapses.

• The Demand Ceiling Capping Prices: If a company raises prices beyond this optimum just because their internal costs (like wages or rent) went up, they ruin their own demand. A higher price that causes a massive drop in customers results in lower total revenue. Therefore, prices are structurally capped by consumer purchasing power and local competition, not driven upward by a company's internal bills.

• Costs Impact Profit, Not Price: Internal expenses, whether they are wages, taxes, or real estate, dictate the profit margin, not the price tag. When operational costs rise, a company has a choice: accept a slightly lower profit margin to maintain their sales volume, or raise prices and risk destroying demand.

I would not call this 'basic economics', but it all aligns perfectly with standard neoclassical microeconomic theory. It is fully backed by academic economics because it directly operationalizes the foundational principle that firms are profit maximizers operating under demand constraints.

The Ultimate Proof (Recent US Price Cuts): Look at McDonald's recent behavior in the US. After aggressively raising prices for years, they were forced to introduce value menus and slash prices. They didn't do this out of goodwill, and they certainly didn't do it because their labor or supply costs suddenly dropped. They did it because consumers, strained by economic uncertainty, stopped buying. Demand collapsed, forcing McDonald's to lower their prices back down to find the new market optimum.

Public narrative heavily distorts economics into a moral tale of companies just covering their bills. In reality, economic theory demonstrates that corporations are just cold, optimization algorithms. They charge the absolute maximum the market will bear. They will ONLY lower prices if they can make more profit from it, by increasing demand.

Trump has fundamentally re-engineered the mechanics of the presidency. He created lots of new precedents, for the next Democratic president to use at their discretion.
That's on you; whatever power you give your ally, you eventually yield to your opponent:

• Bypassing Congress on Budgets: Using national emergencies to redirect defunded or unapproved tax money toward pet projects. (Democrats could do this to bypass Congress and unilaterally fund massive Green New Deal or climate programs).

• Bypassing the Constitution via Executive Order: Challenging established legal rights by decree—like attempting to end birthright citizenship. (Democrats could do this to circumvent Congress and the Constitution by using an executive order to unilaterally implement sweeping national gun control mandates or bans on specific firearms).

• Denying Hearings/Bond for Detainees (The ICE Policy): Using broad executive power to enforce mandatory detention and deny bond hearings to people caught inside the country. (Democrats could use this precedent to indefinitely detain corporate polluters, white-collar financial criminals, or political extremists without allowing them to request bail or a bond hearing while their cases are investigated).

• Subverting the Non-Political Civil Service (Schedule F): Reclassifying thousands of independent federal workers as political employees so they can be fired instantly. (Democrats could use this to systematically purge conservative judges, defense officials, or agents from the deep state and replace them with loyal progressives).

• Bypassing Senate Confirmations: Keeping temporary, unconfirmed "acting officials" in charge of major cabinet departments indefinitely. (Democrats could use this to install radical cabinet members who would never survive a Senate confirmation vote).

• Seizing Control of Independent Agencies: Subjecting legally independent regulators (like the FCC, SEC, or FTC) to direct White House commands. (Democrats could use this to force the SEC or Federal Reserve to penalize banks that invest in fossil fuels).

• Broad Presidential Criminal Immunity: Utilizing the Supreme Court's ruling that a president has absolute immunity for "official acts" committed while in office. (Democrats could use this to execute controversial or legally borderline policies without the president ever fearing criminal prosecution after leaving office).

Trump has done all these things. He didn't achieve a lot with it, other than to keep himself out of prison, but don't cry when Democrats will use them effectively. Your side pulled that rabbit out of the hat, and Democrats can now use that rabbit too.

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According to the highest estimates, not yet a million 'illegals' have been deported,
while according to statements by Donald Trump himself and his vice president,
there are more than 25 million undocumented migrants in the United States.
If my administration did 4% of the main thing that they promised me, I would be pissed.

Trump controls the House, the Senate, the Supreme Court, the FBI and the DOJ,
and still he gets nothing done. I'm happy, because he's evil, but why are you?

It was INDEED meant for remote areas, but Trump is no longer investing in fiber
for less remote areas, with much larger communities, and forcing them to rely on Starlink, because that fills Elon Musk's pockets.

Trump got his donations, Musk gets people who stay dependent on crap satellite internet,
and lots of tax-dollars for his business, and Americans get fucked over.

By the way, you pay about twice as much as we do, for worse internet.

On a simple comparison website, I have the choice of 68 different internet subscriptions from 8 different companies. The cheapest one is $315,83 for a YEAR for 30 Mbit/s down and 3 Mbit/s up. I could have 2000 Mb/s up/down fiber for $434,46 for a YEAR or 8000 Mb/s up/down fiber for $718,81 for a YEAR. Those are all stable wired connections,
without hidden added costs for equipment. Adding phone or TV subscriptions will result
in discounts, but it is harder to compare TV services.

Currently, I have 100 Mbit/s down and 10 Mbit/s up, which is more than I need,
but my provider is working to replace all copper with glass, so I will be transferred
to something faster in a while.

It's an AVERAGE. This is what people pay at a hair salon.

We have a self-employed hairdresser who comes to us.
She doesn't have a boss skimming her and she doesn't need a salon.
For her, every cent that she adds to the price results in a higher income.
We were talking about employees of a company, that's different.

You are starting another argument; the taxes don't change the costs
for the business.

Your argument was that higher wager MUST result in higher prices.
I just showed you that this is NOT correct.

We have only 19 active landfills for waste that is very hard to recycle or burn.
Things like these plugs are easy to recycle or burn.

We Investigated Starlink. The Corruption We Found Will Shock You.
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By the way, satellite internet SUCKS:

• High Latency: Traditional satellites sit over 22,000 miles in space.
This distance causes data delays, making live online gaming, video calls,
and fast browsing feel sluggish.

• Weather Disruptions: Heavy rain, snow, and dense cloud cover can easily weaken
or block the signal (a problem known as rain fade).

• Strict Data Caps: Many providers strictly limit your monthly high-speed data.
Once you hit that limit, they drastically throttle (slow down) your speeds.

• Network Congestion: You share bandwidth with everyone else in your region.
During peak evening hours, speeds often plummet.

• High Setup Costs: The upfront cost for the dish and router is typically very expensive compared to standard cable or fiber setups.

"I can't help the cost of living" Yes you can, it's the result of your politics.

"People want high wages, it requires high prices."
WRONG; it requires that more money goes to the people who do the actual work
and less money goes to the people who don't add any value.

Let's find an example where the service of the worker are the direct product,
so you see the best link between price and wages; a basic men's haircut.
(We are talking about workers who work for a boss, not self-employed people)

Average Consumer Price (of a basic men's haircut):
US: $30 to $45 (Plus expected tips 15% to 20% -> total: $36–$54).
NL: Ђ15 to Ђ25 (Roughly $16.50 to $27.50). Tipping is rare and/or only a small token.

Worker Base Wage Floor (of a hairdresser):
US: Often tied to the federal floor $7.25/hr or state floor (e.g., $10–$15/hr).
NL: $16,52 (Ђ14.71) /hr absolute minimum, but legally scaled up based on experience (via the Kappers-CAO (Hairdressers Agreement))

Mandatory Protections (for hairdressers):
US: Zero federal paid sick leave, zero paid vacation, and employer healthcare
is rarely provided.
NL: 8% holiday allowance, 25 days paid vacation, fully paid sick leave,
and mandatory employer pension contributions.

So the price in my country is about HALF, while our wages are up to DOUBLE.
And they have lots of benefits that American hairdressers don't have.

ANOTHER EXAMPLE THEN:

Just a while back we talked about the wages of McDonald's workers.
They make considerably more in the Netherlands, than in the US.

Hourly Wage (Adult 21+):
US: $11.00 to $14.00 / hr (Stuck at $7.25 in states using the federal floor).
NL: $17.10 (Ђ15.22) / hr absolute base (Set by the mandatory Horeca CAO).

Mandatory Benefits & Rights
US: NONE!
NL: 8% holiday allowance bringing it to $18,47 (Ђ16.44) / hr,
25 days paid vacation, fully paid sick leave, built-in pension accumulation,
and strict overtime premiums.

So, that should result in McDonald's being astronomically more expensive
in the Netherlands, RIGHT?

Price of a Big Mac Meal:
US: $9.50 to $12.00 (Varies wildly by state and franchise location).
NL: Ђ9.50 to Ђ11.00 (Roughly $10.40 to $12.00).
(there are no cheap locations in my country, because we are densely populated)

If it is just price vs wages, explain this.

Two gun laws resulting in a stupid solution:

1) The Mandate to Trace: The Gun Control Act of 1968 mandates that the ATF must be able to trace firearms found at crime scenes to help law enforcement.

2) The Mandate Against a Registry: The Firearm Owners’ Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986 strictly forbids the government from consolidating these records into a centralized, searchable registry.

The 'solution':

• Static Images, Not Text: The ATF scans paper records into computers, but stores them strictly as static images (like flat PDFs or TIFF files).

• No Name Search (Disabled OCR): Optical Character Recognition (OCR) software is legally barred from the system. Because the text is not indexed, computers cannot search the database for a gun owner's name, address, or social security number.

• Manual Scroll-and-Find: When tracing a gun used in a crime, an ATF agent cannot type in a buyer's name. Instead, they must look up the specific closed gun store, open that digital folder, and manually scroll through image files page-by-page to visually locate the right form.

This is what we call "Engineered Inefficiency"; Instead of finding an optimal solution,
by correcting the law, your government is wasting lots of time and labor.

It's not the professionals who make your system that expensive,
it's the people who profit from it, without adding to it,
the Vivek Ramaswamy types. Useless people who only scam the system.

There is no such thing as 'free healthcare', there is 'free at the point of use'.
Your wallet stays fuller, if instead of a $500/month insurance premium,
and half the costs if you need care, you pay $200/month in social healthcare tax,
and nothing when you need care.
It makes no difference for the surgeons, nurses and quality of services,
it just eliminates the useless money grabbers.

You could have some more empathy towards young people these days.
Even if they do EVERYTHING right, the prices of homes are rising faster
than they can ever grow their income. In your youth, everyone could become
a homeowner, now it is only for kids with rich parents, or the few very lucky ones.

The company I work for doesn't look at that. There are some limits; you're not allowed to walk around in your underwear or show Nazi tattoos, but outside of that they only look at your potential. We do business with people who don't mind doing business with people of various stripes. If other companies don't share our values, then we do not care to do business with them.

Because she has blue hair? OMG man, we are living in 2026.

She's talking about jobs at DoorDash and McDonald's, the absolute bottom.

Is this how your elected representatives should hold a hearing?
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And this? Requesting toll records, when you're doing an investigation into a conspiracy
to steal the election, is not against the Constitution. What a clown.
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Why does this exist?
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Why make people beg to pay for healthcare?

I don't live in a paradise, but we don't have THIS for Medically Necessary Care, YET.
If my countrymen keep voting for right-wingers, we WILL have this too.
They are planning to raise the deductible AGAIN.

Your MAGA culture worships stupidity, and you wonder why kids fail in school.

It simply came down to refusing a direct order. The U.S. military has a very strict vaccination policy; service members are routinely required to be vaccinated against numerous diseases (such as anthrax, hepatitis, flu, and rabies) to guarantee worldwide readiness. Under military law (UCMJ), anyone who refuses a medical order can no longer serve and is discharged for insubordination.

Historically, troops have been mandated to take far harsher vaccines, with much higher risks. The anthrax vaccine introduced in 1998, for instance, caused adverse reactions in up to 85% of personnel and put thousands in the hospital, yet it was accepted as part of the job. Medically speaking, the Covid vaccine is much milder. This mass refusal wasn't about health risks, it was purely driven by modern political polarization and the media-driven hysteria surrounding it.

We've been living under right-wing socioeconomic policies since 1994.
I have told you many times before how pretty much all public services
have been privatized. My disgust for American-style policies comes from
the fact that I’ve seen the damage of such policies unfold with my own eyes.
The housing shortages are a direct result of privatizing public housing associations,
into commercial housing corporations.

You claim that the Torah is just a foundation and that God simply created
the universe and walked away, not caring about our sins, leaving humans to either love or kill each other. But you are just twisting things to escape the corner you are in. If God doesn't care, where does the Torah even fit in?
Did God write a reference manual on morality and then abandon us, or is
the Torah purely man-made? If it is purely man-made, why do you value it
as a spiritual foundation at all? If your goal is truly to base your morality on empathy and altruism, modern secular philosophers have provided far more coherent and valuable frameworks for human ethics than ancient scriptures.

Regarding your claim that you don't have to justify your support and that nothing will change my mind: I actually have no problem changing my mind at all. The only thing you need to do is present a justification or evidence that is stronger than what I currently hold on the subject. The fact that you refuse to do so tells me everything. You are now just showing that you completely abandon your own self-reported morality system, which you claimed was based on empathy, the moment it contradicts your political views.

Furthermore, you say that all I do is 'show how much I hate Trump'.
I simply provided concrete facts and arguments regarding his policies.
You did not contradict or refute a single one of them. By labeling those facts as 'hate,' you are implicitly admitting that Trump's actions are indeed terrible.
Unless you can actually prove my arguments false, your own logic dictates that you should be just as critical of him as I am.

Finally, you say we are here for 'development.' Personally, I am here because my parents wanted children. Now that I am here, I generally enjoy life. However, I see an immense amount of misery around me. Not only is that deeply troubling, but it poses a massive danger to our collective future. As humans, we are acting incredibly foolishly again. For a while, things seemed to be improving, but right now, short-sightedness and pure egoism are being heavily rewarded and promoted. If we don’t turn this around quickly, it will inevitably lead to widespread suffering. Personally, I am no fan of misery. So, if God has indeed walked away and it is entirely up to us to make this a good world, do you honestly believe that figures like Trump and Netanyahu are contributing productively to human development?
Because looking at the reality of their actions, I cannot possibly see how. Both Trump and Netanyahu are deeply hateful figures who clearly find joy
in causing misery to others. How can you claim your directive is empathy
and yet not hear that malice every single time they speak?

I don't need to be in a hospital to believe medical doctors, and I don't need
to be in a war zone to look at the consensus of the United Nations, human rights agencies, satellite data, and journalists who are actually there documenting it every day. By the way, journalist who have been killed at a higher number than ever in history, because the IDF is intentionally targeting them, because they want to hide their genocide.

Were you in Israel on October 7th? I can just as easily claim that their government is lying. They are lying a lot, about a lot of things, so why do I even need to believe it even happened? If you are saying that I shouldn't believe anything from the United Nations, human rights agencies, satellite data and journalists, then who is your more trustworthy source?

That quote is from the front page of The New York Times, published on September 12, 2001, following a direct interview between Benjamin Netanyahu and journalist James Bennet on the evening of 9/11.
It does rely on the reputation of that newspaper, but Netanyahu's team
never legally challenged, denied, or demanded a retraction for it.

Are you seriously telling me that Netanyahu didn't know or didn't care to refute a quote on the front page of the most well-known newspaper in the world, but he literally went out of his way during an official United Nations speech to launch a full-on attack against Twitch streamer Hasan Piker, quoting years-old clips? If the 2001 quote were a lie, he would have fought it day one. His silence back then, combined with his hyper-focus on internet commentators on the world stage today, proves that The New York Times reported exactly what he said.

Early in my education, I discovered that I wanted a career focused on intellectual rather than physical labor. While the body deteriorates over time, I trust that my mind will remain sharp throughout my career.

Did you also see all the reactions to that speech?

Noah's Ark Found AGAIN?!
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Yes you have, just today you referenced the Thora. You have said multiple times that your morality is based on believing / faith in various scripture.
Sure, you have said many times that you base your morality on empathy
and altruism, but if you cannot justify your support of Israel and Trump
through any reasoning based upon that, then you are just making noise.

Obviously, you don't have empathy towards the 21,280 children who were killed and 44,500 children who were injured in Gaza. They have no responsibility for the actions of Hamas, but they are shot by IDF snipers in the head and heart. You also don't care about American children who don't get any lunch in school anymore or the children with cancer who's treatment was canceled. You also don't care that Trump is starving the people of Cuba, because he doesn't like their government. You don't care about the victims of HIV, who's aid programs were shut down by Trump. I'm not saying that the US is responsible to do that, but for someone who claims that their morality is based on altruism, that should be a reason to not think of Trump as the best POTUS ever.

You support Netanyahu, a guy who said that 9/11 is good for them, the next day.
Netanyahu initially answered: “It's very good.”
He then immediately corrected himself: “Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy [for Israel].”
That's what he thinks about the 2,977 people who were killed by the attacks themselves, and the thousands of people who have died since, of 9/11-related illnesses.
He probably thinks the same way about the 1200 Israeli people, who are his long-desired justification for the genocide.

Your morality is flawed, because you think that obedience is the same
as morality. That's the flaw of morality based on a religion; it's based only
on obedience to God (in the form you have gaslit yourself into believing).

If a child is taught that morality means following rules to avoid punishment, they learn to obey authority, rather than understand right and wrong. When there is no rule or punishment to restrain them, they may feel free to do whatever they want and simply invent justifications for it.

The same problem arises when morality is grounded in religious scripture.
If a child is taught that a particular scripture is the ultimate source of moral truth, they may learn to treat obedience to that text (and to the authority that interprets it) as morality itself. But religious scriptures contain contradictions, historically contingent norms, and passages whose moral claims are deeply flawed. Different traditions, and even different believers within the same tradition,
select and interpret these passages differently.
This can turn morality into tribal loyalty and post-hoc justification; instead of asking whether an action causes unjustified harm to another person, one asks whether one's preferred scripture permits it. The result is NOT moral understanding, but a system for justifying behavior through inherited authority.

Real morality comes from understanding the human consequences of our actions: recognizing that other people can be hurt, understanding why that harm matters, and developing an internal desire not to cause it. Morality is not merely obeying rules; it is understanding why our actions are right or wrong and caring about their impact on others.

It was a fight for at best a month. That period is long over now.
All of Gaza is in rubble, 74,000+ people are dead, of which 55% are women, children and the elderly. More than 174,000 people have been reported injured. More journalists have been killed by the IDF than ever before in history. To save their lives, thousands of children have endured amputations without pain relief or anesthetic. The IDF has also committed r@pe and torture. It isn't at the scale of what the Nazis did to the Jews, but it is at the same level of evil.

For the rest of my life, I will support politics to completely cut ties with Israel, unless the responsible people are tried and punished by an international court of law, just like the Nazis were.

I also don't want our country to have ties with Hamas, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Russia.
I am done with international ties with terror-states. Meanwhile, your president is buddies with Mohammad bin Salman al-Saoed, and even thinking about giving him nuclear technology. I don't hear you about that.

I don't care about any holy books, because all of them are obviously written by primitive, ignorant people. None of them contain any fact that people from that time wouldn't have known, and all of the morality in it is tribalist and flawed.

I gave you the option of stopping this discussion and even allowed you
the last word, but you cannot let it go. If we have nothing to discuss further,
why do you keep asking for attention?

Companies can make a profit without stealing from employees.
If they cannot do that, they have no justification to exist.
If capitalism can only serve a tiny group of people, than the rest of us
should replace it with a system that serves everyone.

It's damn worrying how much it can already do and does without being asked,
but it is even more worrying how damn irresponsible its creators are.

You think that you know something about God, but you do not.
You're not the only one, but everyone who does it is delusional.
If there is a being that great, it doesn't have favorite humans,
and it doesn't care what you do while naked. That's obvious nonsense.
Religions are all a human creation to control people.

I recommend that you are a bit humble about God, if you believe that he will
one day pass judgement on you.
Misrepresentation of God seems to me a lot worse sin than ignoring God.
Who do you dislike more, someone who calls you his friend, but accuses you of horrible behavior behind your back, or someone who doesn't even acknowledge
your existence, which is more than 8 billion people on Earth?

See how your previous goal of liberating the Iranian people was just gas-lighting?

The actions of your president result from a stable situation, with a nuclear deal
that kept the world safe under Obama, into genocide. That's your ideology.

US diplomats told to say ‘super intelligence’ — not ‘artificial intelligence’.

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The State Department is ordering diplomats in its international organizations bureau to use the term “super intelligence” instead of “artificial intelligence” in all communications following President Donald Trump’s attempt to rebrand the technology in his address to the U.N. General Assembly this week.

AI isn't there yet, and maybe never will. In computer science, "Superintelligence" (or Artificial General Intelligence / AGI) is a technical term reserved for a hypothetical future stage of AI. It describes a system that vastly exceeds the intellectual capabilities of the human brain across all disciplines, including emotional intelligence and social skills. Applying this label to current generative AI tools, which are powerful, but prone to errors
and lack genuine understanding, is viewed by experts as a fundamental ignorance of scientific nomenclature.

Palestinians have the right to defend themselves too. I didn't like their methods, but they were just matching the hate and violence that they were on the received end of for decades. Their percentage of innocent lives was lower than who Israel has been killing before and after 7 October. From the 1200 people who were murdered, approximately 379 were security personnel, including members of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF), local community security squads, and police officers. That's 31.6% non-civilians. The IDF is killing around 90% civilians.

Israeli social security and police records identified 815 to 846 victims as civilians. Officially, they were living within internationally recognized Israeli territory, but that territory was also occupied by Palestinians. They still had a right to live there, even
if it was under the Israeli government, but they have all been relocated to smaller and smaller areas over the decades, with incredibly vile methods. The land was ethnically cleansed, in a worse way than you accuse Muslims of doing to Jews.

"If Israel wanted to do genocide Hamas, Houthies, Iranians... All arabs would be off the face of this earth... Forever"
You are completely delusional. There are approximately 7.2 million to 7.3 million Jews living in Israel. There are about 515 million total residents in the Middle East, approximately 300 million to 320 million are ethnically or linguistically 'Arab'. If Israel showed that they wanted to kill them all, it would be over with Israel very quickly.
If you think that they could nuke them all, understand that the nuclear cloud would kill all life on Earth.

Of course Israel has the most doctors, lawyers, Judges, etc, because it is propped up with Billions of American tax-dollars, while the rest of the Middle East has been looted by the US for as long as they could.

Stop your nonsense about God. It's just gas-lighting, not just towards me, but towards yourself too. Even if the universe was created, your ideas about what that creator wants are purely made-up. Your method of ‘introspective’ reasoning means that you can pick whatever 'morality' you want to find in scripture, to justify any evil that you want to support and judge any other evil as the worst ever committed. This is based on the external indoctrination that Israel can never do evil, because Jews are a persecuted people. That is a bias. You do not judge their actions objectively.

Netanyahu threatening countries who care about international law
does indeed answer a lot of questions.

Yes, they are probably the most persecuted religious group in human history.
That is no justification for doing atrocities themselves. Evil = evil.

Why ask people on the streets? This is fundamentally a question of policy. It comes down to the specific, documented laws, executive orders, and police department manuals a city or state chooses to enact.

What Makes a Sanctuary Jurisdiction?

A sanctuary city or state is a jurisdiction that actively limits its cooperation with federal civil immigration enforcement. Whether a place fits the description depends on four core policies:
1. Information Restricting: Local police are blocked from asking about or reporting a person's immigration status.
2. Declining Detainers: Local jails refuse voluntary Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) hold requests without a judicial criminal warrant.
3. Facility Access: ICE agents are denied access to non-public local jails or administrative spaces to interview inmates.
4. 287(g) Agreements: Refusing optional federal partnerships that deputize local police to act as immigration officers.

Is Salt Lake City a Sanctuary City?
No, Salt Lake City is not a sanctuary city.

* Information Policy: The Salt Lake City Police Department (SLCPD) focuses on community policing and generally does not check status during routine calls. However, it does not have ordinances blocking information sharing if a crime occurs.
* Detainers & Jails: The city does not run the jails. The Salt Lake County Jail handles bookings, and it shares fingerprint and arrest data with federal databases automatically.
* Facility Access: The city requires judicial warrants for ICE to enter non-public city buildings, which some immigration restriction groups flag as a mild sanctuary policy, but the city explicitly rejects the "sanctuary" label.
* 287(g) Agreements: The city does not participate in a 287(g) agreement, but this is common for municipal police departments nationwide.

Is Utah a Sanctuary State?
No, Utah is not a sanctuary state.

* State Policy & Law: State leadership explicitly rejects the designation. Utah does not have statewide "Values Acts" or sanctuary mandates like California or Washington.
* The ICE Memo Controversy: In 2023, a leaked internal ICE field office memo labeled Utah a "sanctuary state," citing non-detention policies among certain local county sheriffs. Utah leaders strongly protested, and federal officials later acknowledged the memo was an unjustified pressure tactic and withdrew it.
* The Gray Area: While politically conservative and legally non-sanctuary, critics sometimes call Utah a "stealth" sanctuary state because it offers certain immigrant-friendly provisions, such as Utah Driving Privilege Cards and in-state tuition for undocumented students. However, by the core metrics of law enforcement non-cooperation, Utah remains a non-sanctuary state.

[1] [https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org](https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/sanctuary-policies-overview/)
[2] [https://www.congress.gov](https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/LSB11321)
[3] [https://www.justice.gov](https://www.justice.gov/ag/us-sanctuary-jurisdiction-list-following-executive-order-14287-protecting-american-communities)
[4] [https://www.albanylaw.edu](https://www.albanylaw.edu/government-law-center/sanctuary-jurisdictions)
[5] [https://www.slc.gov](https://www.slc.gov/access-belonging/immigration-questions-from-our-community/)
[6] [https://senate.utah.gov](https://senate.utah.gov/utah-leaders-respond-to-ice-office-memo/)
[7] [https://www.vera.org](https://www.vera.org/news/what-is-a-sanctuary-city)
[8] [https://ballotpedia.org](https://ballotpedia.org/Sanctuary_jurisdiction_policies_by_state)
[9] [https://www.fairus.org](https://www.fairus.org/issue/the-17-sanctuary-states)
[10] [https://cis.org](https://cis.org/Report/Americas-Reddest-and-Stealthiest-Sanctuary-State-Not-So-Stealthy-Now)

True, which is very much right-wing. If New Yorkers elect more Mamdanis, that policy will surely be changed, and employees will get more job security and predictability.
But that is a separate issue from allowing employers to steal from employees.

It's possible to have no protection from getting fired and still punish employers when they steal from their employees.

I just explained to you that when employers can be the cheapest by scamming their employees, they are than able to crush the competition that doesn't. Those employers might have trouble attracting employees, but employers who are a bit more expensive because they don't steal from employees have trouble attracting clients.
It's up to the government to provide a fair competition playing ground, so it's not a race to the bottom.

Stealing is stealing. If you don't want burglars in your home, there are also alternatives to be allowed to kill them, just like there are alternatives for employees who don't want to be robbed. Why allow that crime for one, and punish it with death for the other?

I don't fucking care. If they steal from their employees, they should feel the consequences. If that results in them needing to pass on the costs of their fines
to the customer, then the customer picks their competition, like Uber Eats, Grubhub, Seamless, Gopuff, Getir, Gorillas, Buyk, Fridge No More or Jokr, or a few friends who
start a new small company together. Yes, fuck them, put them out of business.

That does NOT put people out of work, because the DEMAND is still there.
All those delivery people can just simply go to a BETTER employer.
They cannot do that, when an unscrupulous employer drives competitors
out of the market by being the cheapest, because he is scamming his employees
out of hundreds of millions of dollars.

I want competition that promotes employers treating their employees fairly,
I don't want competition that rewards employers scamming their employees.

DoorDash STOLE over a hundred million dollars from their employees.
Mamdani is forcing them to pay that back to their employees.

You think that you should have the right to kill someone, if they break into your house
to steal your shit. Why then are you OK with employers stealing from employees?
So, would you agree with employees killing their employers?
They're just protecting their property, like you want from a burglar.

Or is it because they wear a suit and tie. If a burglar wears a nice suit and tie,
is it then OK that he steals your shit?

What is Christian Nationalism? (a short video)
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Dear Betty, a mean socialist is making me look stupid.

Maybe I should have a talk with Betty

This is what a socialist will do for you, when you get scammed by your employer:

Zohran forces Doordash to pay $131 Million
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You are showing your ignorance with everything you say.

The United Nations was created in the aftermath of the Second World War,
and in 1948, just after the Holocaust, it adopted the Genocide Convention, establishing genocide as an international crime and committing states to prevent and punish it. (to prevent another holocaust)

In September 2025, a UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry, established to investigate violations of international law in the Occupied Palestinian Territory, concluded that Israel had committed genocide against Palestinians in Gaza.

In short; the UN, established in the aftermath of the Holocaust, to prevent atrocities like genocide, has a Commission of Inquiry that concluded in 2025 that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.

For stupid people; The people who the world has picked to decide
what is a genocide, because of the holocaust, have decided that Israel
is doing a genocide.

The Glorious Birth of Trump TV and the End of Fake News!

Comrades, citizens, and patriots! Rejoice! Today, our benevolent and all-seeing Commander-in-Chief has liberated the airwaves from the treacherous, trembling clutches
of the corporate media snakes! With a single, magnificent stroke of the executive pen,
the imperialist fabricators of CNN, the fiction-peddlers of MS NOW, and the microscopic pests of Politico have been cast out of the White House complex into the cold outer darkness where they belong.

For years, the enemies of the state dared to accuse our supreme leadership of creating "state media." How beautifully we proved that every accusation is a confession by the wicked to hide their own sins. They cried "propaganda" while weaving webs of deceit,
but today, we proudly embrace the truth because we have seized the means of information.

When the coward networks; ABC, CBS, NBC, and even the weak-kneed Fox News,
staged their pathetic, treasonous boycott and refused to film our leader, they thought they would blind the nation. How foolish! Our brilliant administration simply bypassed their archaic, unpatriotic infrastructure entirely. Behold the birth of Trump TV, a flawless,
100% state-funded, state-controlled, and state-sanctioned beacon of pure, unedited reality.

Why allow independent journalists to ask disrespectful, fact-checking questions, when
the State can provide you with the absolute truth directly? Why suffer the chaotic friction
of a multi-voice democracy when a singular, perfectly curated government broadcast
can bring us total harmony?

As our infallible leader ascended the podium to broadcast directly to the masses, the fake journalists outside wept as they realized, "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause." And oh, how we applaud! We clap until our hands bleed, celebrating the magnificent death of that messy, outdated relic called democracy. Let freedom ring
from a single, centralized White House server.

Long live Trump TV! Long live the unfiltered, unquestioned voice of the executive branch!

OFFICIAL SOURCES AND DOCUMENTATION REGARDING GENOCIDE ALLEGATIONS:

International Court of Justice (ICJ)
As the highest judicial body of the United Nations, the ICJ initiated formal legal proceedings against Israel under the 1948 Genocide Convention following a case filed by South Africa, which multiple nations have since legally joined.
ICJ Official Case Page:
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UN Independent International Commission of Inquiry (COI)
In September 2025, this independent UN commission concluded in a formal report that Israel has committed genocide in the Gaza Strip.
OHCHR Press Release:
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UN Question of Palestine Portal:
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UN Special Rapporteur Reports
The UN Special Rapporteur on human rights in the occupied Palestinian territories issued a formal report titled "Gaza Genocide: a collective crime" classifying the situation as genocide.
UNISPAL Report Registry:
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Report of the Special Rapporteur on the situation of human rights in the Palestinian territories occupied since 1967". Authored by UN Special Rapporteur Francesca Albanese, the document concludes that Israel's widespread practices of custodial and non-custodial abuse meet the legal threshold for genocide under the 1948 Genocide Convention.
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International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS)
The largest global professional organization of genocide researchers passed a formal resolution declaring Israel's actions as genocide.
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Tracker of National Recognitions and NGOs
Dozens of nations and humanitarian platforms have issued diplomatic recognitions, declarations, or formal legal briefings regarding this classification.
Country Recognition Tracker:
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List of Accusing Organizations:
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In July 2025, prominent Israeli human rights organizations published extensive medical and legal investigations. B'Tselem released its landmark report "Our Genocide," pointing to a coordinated attempt to destroy life-sustaining conditions, while Physicians for Human Rights Israel (PHRI) independently concluded that the systematic dismantling of Gaza's healthcare system meets the criteria of genocide under international law.

B'Tselem - Official Report "Our Genocide":
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B'Tselem & PHRI Joint Press Release:
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Jewish Voice for Peace (JVP)
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Amnesty International Coverage:
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Stop listening to the criminals who are committing the crimes and start listening to organisations who are resposible for defending international laws.


You are the liar here.

Thank you for holding up a mirror and providing the exact clinical description of your own behavior throughout this entire thread. This is a textbook case of psychological projection; you are accusing me of the exact traits you are currently defaulting to, because you cannot handle the reality of your own intellectual bankruptcy.
Keep diagnosing yourself, and keep screaming at the mirror.

Saying "You know nothing about me", but then coming up with this,
is the height of projection.

It won't surprise you that I have something to say about this.

We can agree or disagree that children of a young age can show signs of gender dysphoria from a young age. What I don't agree with, is his batman fighting crime as a kid analogy, because NO ONE agrees with doing anything permanent to children with gender dysphoria. That is Political Weaponization. Literally ALL the 'gender affirming' operations that are done on children are for cisgender individuals or to address intersex variations, rather than for the surgical transition of transgender youth. Do you understand what that means? That is specific for 97% to minor breast reduction procedures, which are performed on cisgender adolescent males to treat gynecomastia, development of breasts on boys. Some girls are born with something that looks like a small penis. That are most of the other surgeries that are done on children. The rest are very rare other malformations, but NONE of those operations below the age of 15 are for trans children, NONE.

There have been some very rare cases of trans surgeries after the age of 15, for extremely clear cases, relating to children who show physical signs of gender dysphoria too, but the restrictions were already extremely tight, and it's not being performed anymore, because doctors are afraid of ending up in prison.

It's dishonest propaganda, to purposefully misrepresent the data, to say that parents
and doctors are turning boys into girls and girls into boys.

Do you want boys to be be ashamed to be in the dressing room with other boys,
because they cannot have their breasts removed? That is the harmful result of this
Political Weaponization. This guy probably didn't intend to do that. I'm sure he believes
the lies too, and is angry about it. I would be angry too, IF it was true, but it isn't.

How would you feel if I accused right-wingers of tattooing children with swastikas?