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Started by bella! at 20,May,18 18:36  other posts of bella!
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By bella! at 07,Jul,20 21:12 other posts of bella! 
Here's what the Hodge Twins have to say. I must say, I agree with them.

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By Scorps at 08,Jul,20 00:51 other posts of Scorps 
Thanks for the vid! 👍

Don Lemon is trash, and I can't understand how or why he still has a job.

Anyway, the fella's are quite articulate and on point as usual.
By bella! at 08,Jul,20 21:44 other posts of bella! 
The Hodge Twins posted this one hour ago.

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By Scorps at 08,Jul,20 22:01 other posts of Scorps 
Bet you don't see them degenerates (in the clip at the church) on your evening or mainstream news...

By phart at 09,Jul,20 10:16 other posts of phart 
All I can say is WOW!
Lifestyle choices,just as Thomas Sowell says so well, these fellows understand that idea.
Thanks for posting the link

By JustWill at 07,Jul,20 16:37 other posts of JustWill 
It's RANDY TIME!!!!!

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By bella! at 07,Jul,20 21:11 other posts of bella! 
Ha! Randy Rainbow is so clever and talented!
By dgraff at 07,Jul,20 21:24 other posts of dgraff 
He looks to me like a gay twig combined with a super computer geek

By Scorps at 08,Jul,20 01:05 other posts of Scorps 
I would agree, he's pretty clever and semi-talented, for sure!

You suppose since the bulk of his material is about one person, that he would ever have the decency to thank him for assisting in his gain to notoriety and further wealth? One might think, taking that into consideration, he most certainly should also vote for the man. That way he can continue his success, at the others person's expense...

By bella! at 07,Jul,20 23:49 other posts of bella! 
Ha! This popped up for me to view.

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By dgraff at 08,Jul,20 06:02 other posts of dgraff 
At least he got rid of the geek glasses but I still like the hodge twins better

By 2nice at 08,Jul,20 19:44 other posts of 2nice 
You and your RANDY...
By JustWill at 08,Jul,20 20:37 other posts of JustWill 
Mr Rainbow is the bee's knees.

By 2nice at 08,Jul,20 19:49 other posts of 2nice 
Will, you and your RANDY...

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By JustWill at 08,Jul,20 20:37 other posts of JustWill 
By 2nice at 08,Jul,20 21:10 other posts of 2nice 
Oh, stop...but, donít

By bella! at 08,Jul,20 11:04 other posts of bella! 
Todays "Deal of the Day" offered on Amazon is a DNA test for your dog. Yup, for $99.00, which happens to be a 23% discount off the regular price, you can determine the DNA breed ID and ancestry of your pooch.
By Scorps at 08,Jul,20 11:16 other posts of Scorps 
I've seen this mentioned on cable television somewhere, but didn't think much about it.

As a massive lover of Doggies, most animals really. This just doesn't appeal to me at ALL! In my opinion, it further illustrates that some people just have too much money.

By aoneeyedmonster at 08,Jul,20 14:07 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Wonder what would happen if a humanoid took the test.....
By bella! at 08,Jul,20 14:41 other posts of bella! 
You mean if you sent the company your DNA?
By aoneeyedmonster at 08,Jul,20 16:01 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Yes, I've heard mixed results on those pet DNA kits. Would throw them a curve ball if I sent them my DNA and they come back and said your a hound dog
By Scorps at 08,Jul,20 16:03 other posts of Scorps 
LMAO That's funny right there!
By phart at 08,Jul,20 19:26 other posts of phart 
The human dna test are being used to catch crooks to. I wonder what side benifit the Pet dna is?
I don't really give a shit what my Dogs dna is,I know they are MUTTS, good freindly,mutts.

By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:03 other posts of Scorps 
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Only 7 small minutes...
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 15:27 other posts of bella! 
Just what song is supposed to be the Black National Anthem?
By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:41 other posts of Scorps 
"Lift Every Voice and Sing"
by J. Rosamond Johnson & James Weldon Johnson

Lyrically speaking, a beautiful song as suggested by the twins. I was sincerely shocked that my wife knew it, cause I had NEVER heard of it, myself.

Nevertheless, just another thing hi-jacked by someone to use to keep sowing the seeds of division. With those in charge declaring this may become the norm in ALL sports. Sports will no longer be a uniting activity. Especially, as far as I'm concerned. The B.L.M. car, in NASCAR!! 😖 Thanks NASCAR for allowing division even in the sport that has been mocked as a racist sport. That pisses me off so badly, I can hardly see straight.

By bella! at 05,Jul,20 15:33 other posts of bella! 
This is what the Hodge Twins have to say about why black women are heavy.

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By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:53 other posts of Scorps 
Funny! I hadn't seen that one. Thanks!
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 20:20 other posts of bella! 
Oh, I don't like cookies! Apparently, since I've watched and searched for the Hodge Twins, YouTube has an idea what I'm looking at and interested in. This dilly was one of their choices.

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By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 20:58 other posts of Scorps 
Sorry! Didn't mean to contribute to your you tube search thingy to go nuts. Another great video though, in my opinion. It's refreshing to hear someone speaking logically, instead of the constant barrage that our race (white folk) are the devil.

By bella! at 05,Jul,20 15:40 other posts of bella! 
This was a real discussion about self-care that was featured on OWN (Oprah Winfrey Network). Apparently, there was this one woman that feels that racism and the Trump Administration has made her and keeps her fat.

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By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:56 other posts of Scorps 
WOW! Wow wow wow!

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Shit just like that is ruining our society... WOW!
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Oh! Also, did you notice that you could send money to the individual claiming that "ALL WHITE PEOPLE ARE RACIST", she had a link at the bottom of that statement.
By dgraff at 06,Jul,20 21:51 other posts of dgraff 
Did you know that Oprah Winfrey was once arrested and jailed for drug trafficking???
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They lifted up her skirt and seen 30 pounds of crack
By phart at 07,Jul,20 10:14 other posts of phart 
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By bella! at 05,Jul,20 13:44 other posts of bella! 
OMG! It's the beginning of the month so it seems likely that the pension checks were mailed and have been received. Look who has bought some points to skyrocket their picture to the top of BEST IMAGE/MEMBER TOP feature!
By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:12 other posts of Scorps 
I noticed and I believe you TOTALLY hit the nail on the head.
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 15:18 other posts of bella! 
What decade do you reckon that picture was taken in?
By Scorps at 05,Jul,20 15:28 other posts of Scorps 
Ooooo! A FANTASTIC question to stir a conversation... 🤔 I'd say, no later than the 90's. Matter of fact, it could totally qualify as "vintage porn". Just my opinion, of course.

By 2nice at 05,Jul,20 15:45 other posts of 2nice 
No later than 1979.
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 16:15 other posts of bella! 
While we are on the subject of WHACK JOBS, I found this and thought it was, uh, to say the least, odd. I mean, did the doctors give her a psychological evaluation prior to moving forward with any procedure? If this was just a whim and she decides she's not happy in 5, 10, 20 years, cosmetic things can be reversed but the eyes, hair, skin tone, what about that?

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By dgraff at 07,Jul,20 07:18 other posts of dgraff 
Yikes thatís scary and that woman definitely has back problems did you see how much weight she is carrying out front
By bella! at 07,Jul,20 07:47 other posts of bella! 
She is what black people should be upset and outraged over, her perception of what it means to look like when you are black.
By dgraff at 07,Jul,20 08:11 other posts of dgraff 
I could tell she was white right away

By bella! at 05,Jul,20 16:17 other posts of bella! 
1979 or 1879?

By bella! at 06,Jul,20 08:43 other posts of bella! 
I was gobsmacked by the statistics provided in the opening of 13TH, a 2016 documentary that is available to watch on Netflix.

The United State is home to 5% of the world's population but 25% of the world's prisoners. In 1972, the United States had a prison population of 300,000 and 2.3 million, presumably in 2016. WOW!
By CountryCouple54 at 06,Jul,20 09:45 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Yeah, and they want to defund the police departments, go figure.

By Scorps at 06,Jul,20 12:44 other posts of Scorps 
Although I haven't seen the documentary you speak of, when you see the numbers they can be a little overwhelming. For sure!

I firmly believe that a vast majority of the problems in our society stem from the home. The fact that so many blindly excuse self control and personal responsibility, and the lack of teaching those principles to their children. The constant blaming AND acceptance that it's always someone else's fault as to why people are bad. The INSISTENCE of taking personal responsibility and control of one's own actions, destiny, is just TOO much to demand from our society. The whole mess could EASILY be solved by one very simple statement...


Is there a simpler statement?

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By bella! at 06,Jul,20 22:35 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, I don't understand what the intentions behind a thumbs up response to my post.

By CountryCouple54 at 06,Jul,20 13:23 other posts of CountryCouple54 
At 83 years old, we have lost one of the last true all American country singers. A true American to the core. A man who asked everyone to rise and remove their hats, cover their chest with their hand, and say the Pledge of Allegiance with him before every show. A man that would tell the ones who didn't want to stand, to take their asses home because they didn't belong there. "The Devil Went Down To Georgia" but he didn't stay long once he met Charlie Daniels. Now Charlie your wish has become final. Everyone can now leave this "Long Haired Country Boy Alone". R.I.P. ole boy.
By Scorps at 06,Jul,20 14:28 other posts of Scorps 
😍 SO well said Cc,

He was a terrific guy, and musician. He will surely be missed. 😔

R.I.P. Charlie, you were considered by many as a Great American.

By bella! at 03,Jul,20 19:49 other posts of bella! 
What I've begun noticing when making a selection to watch on Netflix, when the intro plays, it may say violence, strong language, partial nudity, etc, it now alerts viewers that SMOKING is depicted. I don't smoke, I don't have young children or grandchildren to consider but I don't think that I would say, "sorry, little ones, you can't watch this", based on the smoking warning. 😳
By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 22:46 other posts of dgraff 
I smoke have for 45 years donít make me a bad person just addicted to a bad habit
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 22:58 other posts of bella! 
The "warnings" are placed on the programs so you can make a conscious choice as to whether you want to view based on some of the questionable content. I understand that some folks might not be interested in nudity, partial or not, some folks might not appreciate offensive language but I've never heard of anyone saying, YIKES! I'm not going to watch this or allow the kids to watch this because.....the characters are smoking cigarettes, bud or whatever!
By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 23:01 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha they claim the younger generation will be the ones to end smoking to bad most of them vape and I think thatís worse for them

By Andthisisme at 05,Jul,20 09:41 other posts of Andthisisme 
I was just going to post that the cover of the original Abbey Road vinyl album had a cigarette in Paul McCartney's hand and that if you look at the image on modern Abbey Road covers there is no cigarette.
Luckily I checked and that appears to be an urban myth. Or am I right that the cigarette was airbrushed out in some cases?

I was right

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By bella! at 05,Jul,20 16:18 other posts of bella! 
Wow! That's wild!

By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jul,20 07:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Something I learned this morning. Canada had a form of prohibition in the early part of the 20th century

CANADA'S National prohibition (a temporary wartime measure) WAS from 1918 to 1920.
By kebmo at 05,Jul,20 00:08 other posts of kebmo 
There are still many communities within Canada that prohibit the sale or consumption of alcohol. These are usually Indigenous communities and the reason is usually because many of them have high unemployment rates and rampant alcohol abuse which of course leads to a whole myriad of crime related issues. They are referred to as dry communities and are usually in northern Canada.
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 00:21 other posts of bella! 
Obviously, I can see your response as I am alerted that you've posted in a thread I started. Since I can't see the original post, my guess is that you have replied to ANGEL1227. Unfortunately, she won't be able to view and/or respond in this thread as she has been blacklisted.
By Jamie at 05,Jul,20 04:40 other posts of Jamie 
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 09:09 other posts of bella! 
You are a man of few words, I take that you support my decision to blacklist and if so, thank you.

It's a funny thing, there are several members that shoot barbs at her and she uses that/justifies that to insult me. I have no idea what prompts her but I'm tired of it and I'm tired of seeing her refer to me as a "bitch". If she feels that way it would only seem logical and if she had an ounce of common sense, that she/we could avoid each other. It's obvious that she has no common sense so I made the decision for "us". With one tick of the box, POOF, she's gone!
By dgraff at 05,Jul,20 09:17 other posts of dgraff 
I think she has been forgetting to take her medication again or maybe she canít afford it any more
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Hey candy try hooking outside of the senior center for extra money

By 2nice at 05,Jul,20 10:28 other posts of 2nice 
It will just sign out, then copy and paste what it sees here in another thread. Where it will insanely talk to itself there like a deranged monkey playing with itís poop. The only way to get rid of it is to COMPLETELY ignore itís existence entirely. Nobody is interested in what it has to say.

Btw, Happy 4th of July.
By bella! at 05,Jul,20 13:37 other posts of bella! 
I'm sure you are correct about the points you made. Sign out to read, copy and paste, YUP. For the purpose of talking insanely to itself, YUP.

The old bag made it easy for me yesterday. She called me a "bitch" one too many times and enough is enough.

Thanks for the 4th of July salutations, it didn't seem like 4th of July to me, oh well! I hope you has a good time, it was hotter than hell on my side of the state because of the humidity. Between the beer and the Benadryl, I slept like a baby!

By kebmo at 05,Jul,20 00:15 other posts of kebmo 
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By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jul,20 09:15 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Another senseless shooting

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The cops said the eight yr old should have had a gun to protect herself.

By bella! at 02,Jul,20 15:33 other posts of bella! 
My favorite programming is the investigative journalism and the "whodunits" on the various dish network channels.

I would be naive to think shit don't happen in Michigan, but the only big thing I can remember that made it to one of these programs was the murder of Tara Lynn Grant, about 10+ years ago.

Where I'm going with this is that a number of these programs feature crimes that happen in Pennsylvania. I think the murder rate is higher in different states, it just surprises me that the State of Pennsylvania is frequently highlighted.
By Andthisisme at 02,Jul,20 16:41 other posts of Andthisisme 
I was intrigued by your comment so looked up the relative murder rates in the various states.
In 2018 Pennsylvania was 14th and Michigan 18th.
In 2017 Pennsylvania was 21sth and Michigan 22nd.
But in 2014 Michigan was higher at 15th and Pennsylvania 20th
There is not not much difference really. Maybe Pennsylvania murders are more 'interesting'.
By bella! at 02,Jul,20 17:19 other posts of bella! 
Interesting! Thank you for the stats. What I expect is that IF the investigative journalism and whodunits were about Michigan and aired in Michigan, we Michiganders would think ho-hum, I've already read it in the news or heard it umpteen times on television, click, I'm switching stations.

If you ask me, I think a truck load of crazy crap goes on in New Jersey.

By JustWill at 02,Jul,20 17:46 other posts of JustWill 
Most of that crazy shit happens in Pennsyltucky, not the true, civilized parts known as Pennsylvania.
By bella! at 02,Jul,20 18:33 other posts of bella! 
Pennsyltucky? We have a city in Michigan that is lovingly referred to as Hazeltucky. Don't Google Hazeltucky, you won't find it, the city is really Hazel Park.
By dgraff at 02,Jul,20 20:58 other posts of dgraff 
I think the unsolved murder cases are much higher as we have a lot of wooded land and caves and coal mines to drop the bodies in some to be never found again
By JustWill at 03,Jul,20 06:41 other posts of JustWill 
And Hillbillies.
Don't forget about the HUGE population of Hillbillies.
By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 06:45 other posts of dgraff 
Yep canít forget about them
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 09:27 other posts of bella! 
Wait one minute! YOU live on a mountain aka hill, hmmmmm.....

By JustWill at 03,Jul,20 06:45 other posts of JustWill 
Pennsyltucky is that big chunk of the state (commonwealth, actually)between Pittsburgh and Philadelphia. It is home to a huge population of Hillbillies and folks who don't go in for that fancy book-learnin'.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 09:34 other posts of bella! 
You know, I did not know Pennsylvania was part of the Commonwealth, did I say that correctly?
By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 10:37 other posts of dgraff 
Absolutely all our keystone signs say right on them commonwealth of Pennsylvania

By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 09:48 other posts of dgraff 
I will admit it Iím one of them I quit school in tenth grade back in 1979 they werenít teaching me anything I needed to know I was good in the sciences and mathematics strait A student but the rest was not applicable to an automotive shop that I opened in 1983 and is still doing well to this day
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A success story from a drop out

By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 22:56 other posts of dgraff 
Donít forget those hillbillies you speak of are the backbone of Pennsylvania we need a perfect balance of the book smart people who sit behind a desk and look pretty with there degrees hanging on the wall and the hard working people with callused hand from doing the manual labor the smart people canít do because they are to frail or donít have the common sense to do

By bella! at 03,Jul,20 12:21 other posts of bella! 
With regard to their own personal grooming regime, do the majority of you men prefer sporting a smooth and shaved appearance OR do you prefer the natural look?
By 2nice at 03,Jul,20 14:00 other posts of 2nice 
Smooth and groomed, most definitely. Iíd look like Bigfoot if I went natural.

By Ray10754 at 03,Jul,20 17:31 other posts of Ray10754 
Totally smooth and hair free is best! I was so hairy, it was more work to maintain the hair than shaving. Now I am completely hair free neck down permanently and love it.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 17:54 other posts of bella! 
Permanently? You had a series of electrolysis procedures ot something?
By Ray10754 at 03,Jul,20 18:13 other posts of Ray10754 
/335f3jg7ssvipic.html did it myself at home
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 18:46 other posts of bella! 
How many treatments, long did it take you to get your body to the point it is at now? Is there any maintenance involved?
By Ray10754 at 03,Jul,20 22:43 other posts of Ray10754 
Took me about 4 months to be completely hair free,doing it twice a week, only had to do a few touch ups after that due to some hairs that were missed,and have a small spot on my chest that I have to shave due to the fact the machine has trouble with light color and grey hair.As far as I am concerned it was well worth the time and money invested.

By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 19:49 other posts of dgraff 
It just depends on what season we are in the summer Iím clean shaven the winter Iím Sasquatch

By bella! at 02,Jul,20 10:55 other posts of bella! 
I happened upon a SYD member's picture that had an overwhelming 112k views! WOW!
By kebmo at 03,Jul,20 00:23 other posts of kebmo 
How does that happen?
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 00:47 other posts of bella! 
I don't know, why would you ask me?
By kebmo at 03,Jul,20 01:33 other posts of kebmo 
I've seen other members with views of 60k or so and always wondered how that happens. I suppose you could spend thousands upon thousands of points putting your photo on the banner for a long time but why? That's a rhetorical question.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 09:12 other posts of bella! 
I've done some rough math on this picture. The picture was posted in March, 2014 and has received 112k views. 6 years equals 72 months, divided by the number of views equals more than 1,500 views per month over a 6+ year period.

My guess is that pictures (like movies and songs) are the most popular when they are first released. Unless admin has a page of PICTURES WITH THE MOST VIEWS, I can't imagine his picture generating large numbers of views at this time because it is buried within his extensive gallery of pictures.

By 2nice at 03,Jul,20 10:48 other posts of 2nice 
With that many views, I would expect I wouldíve seen it, at least once. But...nope.
By Scorps at 03,Jul,20 13:34 other posts of Scorps 
Lol That's exactly what I was thinking too. Nope, never seen it until now.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 17:30 other posts of bella! 
See, now between you, me and 2nice, there's 3 more views!

By admin at 03,Jul,20 13:13 other posts of admin 
That pic appeared in google on "cum filled condom" request for couple of years. It still gets occasional visitors from google.
By 2nice at 03,Jul,20 13:57 other posts of 2nice 
Well, that explains it.

By bella! at 03,Jul,20 14:59 other posts of bella! 
But am I/we to understand that this picture has received 112k views from SYD/SYC membership, alone?
By admin at 03,Jul,20 17:17 other posts of admin 
All views are counted, not only from members.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 17:29 other posts of bella! 
I apologize for not grasping what should be relatively easy to understand. Any time a picture displayed on SYD/SYC that is viewed by a member OR A VISITOR, registers a view, correct? The number of views recorded on the picture has nothing to do with the number of times it was searched for and viewed on Google.
By admin at 03,Jul,20 20:01 other posts of admin 
I was not talking about google images, just about "default" google. When you search something in google you get links to pages, if you click on the link you get transfered to that page, opening it and you are viewing the page. It's a pageview and it is counted as such.
By bella! at 03,Jul,20 20:06 other posts of bella! 
Now I understand, thank you.

By Scorps at 03,Jul,20 08:05 other posts of Scorps 

That MUST be one helluva hot/sexy picture?

I'm satisfied with 50 or more viewing.
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By bella! at 03,Jul,20 08:57 other posts of bella! 
I don't know about that, you be the judge.

By dgraff at 03,Jul,20 10:39 other posts of dgraff 
It donít look like nothing over the top to me

By Scorps at 03,Jul,20 13:30 other posts of Scorps 

No, I hadn't seen it, thanks a lot B!

For me, it has too many strikes I wouldn't have even clicked on it.

By bella! at 03,Jul,20 15:06 other posts of bella! 
Just when you thought that an ignorant member couldn't be anymore stoopid than what they are, they post this.

SrCums writes, "anonymous wrote (Jul 2, 23:16):
such an angry little man.

When I clicked on the link her name came up..Has she done this to others? I banned her a long time ago and it appears that she us using fakes to write derogatory remarks on the comments section..

My settings were switched to disallow anonymous comments but it's my duty to protect members that are here sincerely.. Be careful with her.. She is very nasty person."

Rewind back to June 28, huxley999 and JustWill are having a spirited discussion in kebmo's Trump thread, poking their stick at an angry Ari aka SrCums and SrCums writes this;

"OK, hotpussy... I was upset but now after time I realized it was not the right thing to do based on my moral codes. I compare my self to you and realize I am better to love than to hate... For if I spend my points trashing your page then I wasted the time I have on this earth for love and unity... I don't expect you to understand this.."

Do you notice that he refers to his "moral codes" and the blah, blah about love and trashing huxley999 's page. FFS, his moral codes won't allow him to use his points to trash a member's page so his moral codes say nothing about sending in his fuck buddy, Love2show2 , to trash huxley999's page. Okay, I'm paying a "wellness call" to huxley999 and I see his page trashed SO I load 6 😜 brat faces on and post a message on huxley999's wall saying, "SrCums/arir39, YOU are crazy and full of hate. What a pathetic mass of flesh you are." AND this message was directed to huxley, "Looks like SrCums true colors are showing. His heart and soul are indeed filled with HATE.". Yes, I posted two anonymous messages on SrCums wall because the weak ass man blacklisted me and that's the only way I could post and call him a FRAUD. I'm surprised that he hasn't claimed I'm attacking him because he is a Jew.

As anticipated, SrCums circles back to huxley999's page and deposits one negative gift but I give him credit, he had the balls to do in his own name. And from there, the angry little man lit into me calling me a fake, a fat bitch, a liberal.... Whichever you slice it or dice it, Arir39, Godzillas, SrCums, IS an angry little man. And if anyone has ever noticed, the angrier he gets, the more stoopid shit he's apt to say.

Peace out.
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And for reasons only known to him, SrCums unblacklisted me.

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jul,20 07:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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This is scary. Publix is my supermarket of choice

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By Degraff reporting in Aussie's Stuff, Just Stuff

Just popped in to say hello Lix youíre looking radiant one might say youíre glowing your not pregnant are you? Hello Leo you old cock sucker were is that blow job you promised me a year ago oh and Aussie man if you are going to have a pet angel 1227 you might want to keep it on a shorter leash so it canít wonder in to the neighbors yard that old dog canít behave no matter were she goes
By dgraff at 01,Jul,20 20:23 other posts of dgraff 
And yet Aussie man donít listen here is his old dog in the neighbors yard again shiting up the place
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Soon time to call animal control
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jul,20 09:07 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dogs are smart. They know where to shit.

By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jul,20 13:29 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Oh, dgraff, good to see you here. My, you're looking absolutely like a raisin, wrinkled & shriveled. Have you been to the bottlo today?

Hahaha good to hear from ya Aussie man been a long time just try to keep your old dog out of your neighbors yard before she chews up some ones rug and does she have her current shots thatís important

What, do you think I send people out to troll you or something? I have a whole network of trolls on a payroll just to annoy you, mate. Watch out

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Ignore ignore ignore
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By bella! at 02,Jul,20 16:46 other posts of bella! 
Will you kindly let it know that it would appear that no one gives a flying fladoodle what ANYONE has to say about it.
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jul,20 17:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
To whom it may concern: Please be aware no one gives A flying fadoodle what ANYONE has to say about this thread. Itís obvious Degraffís comment about bitches is not relevant to crime in Michigan
By dgraff at 02,Jul,20 19:56 other posts of dgraff 
Ignore ignore IGNORE

By bella! at 30,Jun,20 21:48 other posts of bella! 
The mosquitoes have been unrelenting, I'm beginning to believe that they only have eyes for me. The last couple of nights they have torn me up so I took 3 Benadryl and I hope that does the trick. Yep, one night that the itching stops and a good night's sleep, too!
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By Scorps at 30,Jun,20 22:42 other posts of Scorps 
Hey B,

Did you know that the biting mosquitoes are the females, and they do in fact have a preference of blood type? Perhaps you are more susceptible. I would recommend a dusting of deep woods off on your exposed extremities before going outside. Few days ago I attended a birthday party for one of my grandchildren that was at a pavilion in a local park. To my surprise, I sprayed my legs and arms with it and managed to come home unscathed. 😁
By dgraff at 30,Jun,20 22:51 other posts of dgraff 
That stuff works Bella living in the Appalachian mountains of Pennsylvania I know about mosquitoes 🦟

By ANGEL1227 at 01,Jul,20 11:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I believe they must have preferences. Charlie can sit outside, in the evening, and not get one bite. I go out for a minute and I get mauled. Deep Woods Off is very good but the results vary.

By ANGEL1227 at 01,Jul,20 11:52 other posts of ANGEL1227 
we should also continue to ignore the racial strife in the United States being primarily perpetuated by whites and or those suffering from white guilt and rich blacks

Because it doesn't do any good.

By bella! at 01,Jul,20 21:36 other posts of bella! 
I came home tonight before 9 o'clock and those nasty little bastards were waiting for me on the driveway and chased me straight into the house, dammit!
By dgraff at 01,Jul,20 21:50 other posts of dgraff 
Do some shots of Yukon jack the little bastards hate the smell of it

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By dgraff at 02,Jul,20 05:52 other posts of dgraff 
Anyone else experiment with home made fire works as it turns out Iím quite the pyro technician I like to make things go BANG
By bella! at 02,Jul,20 06:44 other posts of bella! 
Are you serious? You're making "homemade" fireworks? May I
ask, WTF do you know about fireworks? No, thank you! I do not mess around with explosives, I want to keep all my fingers and toes and both eyes, too!
By dgraff at 02,Jul,20 06:50 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha I reload my own ammunition for years so it gives you a sense of how explosive work yes for years now Iíve been making my own Roman candles
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My brother-in-law is an X marine and he took me under his wing as a teenager he taught me all kinds of things I probably should not know

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By kebmo at 01,Jul,20 02:41 other posts of kebmo 
Happy Canada day! 153 years young!

By JustWill at 01,Jul,20 06:57 other posts of JustWill 
Happy Canada day from the barbarians to the south of y'all!
By kebmo at 01,Jul,20 07:12 other posts of kebmo 
Thanks Mr. Head Barbarian!
By JustWill at 01,Jul,20 21:21 other posts of JustWill 
Now that you mention it, I HAVE given head to a barbarian or two in my sordid past.
They promised not to tell, though.
Moral of the story: Never trust a horny barbarian to keep a s3cret.

By bella! at 01,Jul,20 08:00 other posts of bella! 
Are there any formal celebrations th8s year or has everything been canceled?
By kebmo at 01,Jul,20 08:11 other posts of kebmo 
A lot of things have been cancelled but fireworks can be seen from far away so in my city, with a maximum outdoor gathering of 200, there are many small spots that can all see the fireworks. More of a serious downsizing as apposed to an outright cancelation. My restaurant is closed so it's still a day off all be it a rainy and cool one. I foresee a lazy day interspersed with naps for me.
By Scorps at 01,Jul,20 09:27 other posts of Scorps 
Happy Canada Day, enjoy your day off!

Couldn't anyone come up with a more creative name for the day, though? What was wrong with "Dominion Day"?
By kebmo at 01,Jul,20 13:17 other posts of kebmo 
Maybe we should have made the name part of the free trade agreement. NAFTA 2.0 comes into effect today.

By ANGEL1227 at 01,Jul,20 10:57 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Happy Canada day

By Scorps at 01,Jul,20 16:15 other posts of Scorps 
Funny how an incident occurring in my neck of the woods (figuratively), made national news.

Check these barbarians out!

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By bella! at 01,Jul,20 19:24 other posts of bella! 
Are the "twins" for real?
By Scorps at 01,Jul,20 21:02 other posts of Scorps 
Yes B, I've been watching them for years. They add a lil humor or other insights to many many topics of the day.

By dgraff at 01,Jul,20 20:15 other posts of dgraff 
Fucking right he was armed with a AR 15 military assault rifle but he should have opened fire the minute they crashed the gate

By Scorps at 28,Jun,20 04:59 other posts of Scorps 
Let's continue to ignore the racial strife in the United States being primarily perpetuated by whites and or those suffering from white guilt and rich blacks. Or the attempt to destroy our country, allowing anarchy to go unchecked in our most liberal or Democratic run cities, the constant desire to dismiss the rule of law and order, or the attempt to erase history. As if any of the stupid shit we are currently witnessing is going to actually improve anyone's lives.

Instead! (Just FOR one particular lily white member) Let us continue the discussion about face coverings ("masks") due to a virus that was either purposefully released by or accidentally released by/from China(that make you feel better? You know who you are).

Quite the quandary here, and I sincerely mean that!


In one breath, there are those (I won't point out which kind/type of people) that say, "black people are MORE likely to have severe repercussions/reactions to the virus, up to and including death in most instances". Yet, one of the biggest liberal/Democratic run cities in our country, (unno, the kind that claims to care the MOST about black people) has just declared face masks as a REQUIREMENT out in public for WHITES ONLY.

Now I ask you...

Since one can interpret this either way, TRUTHFULLY speaking (see what I did there, truth ALWAYS prevails over facts), what do YOU make of this? Is there ANY racism involved in this decision?
By huxley999 at 28,Jun,20 06:38 other posts of huxley999 
I'll bite!

Your first paragraph, as you're so keen on delineating between fact and opinion, is exclusively your opinion.

Your second paragraph (congratulations) is less racist than usual. However, I would also add that some think it's likely that Covid 19 had a zoonotic origin. If that's so it was neither "released" purposefully NOR accidentally.

I've Googled "US city requires face masks for whites only" and all I could find was the story about Oregon County. A fact-checking site puts that into context.

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The key summary is as follows: "In sum, while it is accurate to say Lincoln County officials in June 2020 established a rule that required people to wear masks with an exemption for residents of color, authorities were not going to enforce the requirements, and the policy was later changed so that all residents ó no matter their race ó must wear the facial coverings to prevent the spread of COVID-19. We therefore rate this claim as ďMostly True.Ē"

Being truthful: it's clearly more nuanced than you have made out but, in my opinion, the lawmakers were fucking stupid (and borderline racist) to include that exemption. My opinion would, I guess, be pretty much the same if it's NOT Oregon County but some other place.

I hope I've been both honest and even-handed.
By Scorps at 28,Jun,20 08:49 other posts of Scorps 
Thanks for biting!

In an effort to understand, and witnessing some of the things going on in our country right now, and coming up with nothing, other than politically motivated. I stated the above to hopefully open up a dialogue on the matters.

To put it simply, I'm not subscribing to the whole "systematic racism" bullshit, or any other buzz words that some like to throw around, like "white privilege" or "black oppression". It's all racially incendiary and used to continue divisions between our races. 2020 is NOTHING like it was in 1980, we have come a long way and those still screaming racist and racism are more likely the same ones that are actually the racist. Whether it be agaisnt blacks or whites or any other race, there should be no divisions, period! We should absolutely all be Humans, Americans, Children of God, Citizens, Mankind whatever you choose to combine EVERYONE into. I wholeheartedly believe that everyone has the same opportunities to achieve greatness and or success in this country. It's been done repeatedly time after time by all races for a very long time. Taking personal responsibility for ones own destiny. There's a novel idea...

As much as I would like to take credit for it, some of the things cited above were actually spoken by someone else. I heard it and believe there is quite a bit of truth to it. So, to say that it's uniquely my opinion would be incorrect. Sorry! I guess I should have cited the source. But alas I didn't, because I don't want to come off as using him for any advantage.

I do believe, in my heart, that your response was honest and even-handed, and for that, I once again applaud you and appreciate it. Also for pulling more current data, last I heard of that, was a few days ago. Guess someone saw the err in their ways...
By huxley999 at 28,Jun,20 09:14 other posts of huxley999 
Points I can agree with you on: 2020 is nothing like 1980; we have come a long way; there should be no divisions; taking personal responsibility for your destiny is a good thing.

Where we differ: systemic racism DOES exist. Ignoring that will not help heal divisions, but will perpetuate them.

I don't say I agree with every syllable but this puts it pretty well (for the US in particular):

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I'll acknowledge that I hold some of those prejudices/stereotypical views referred to in the video. Acknowledging that is a good first step. To assert that a white 17 year old growing up in Palm Beach has the same life opportunities, and ability to achieve greatness, as a black 17 year old living in one of the rougher parts of Chicago is (in my opinion) both incredibly naive and, also, unhelpful in addressing your Nation's problems. Before you jump up and down, that black kid COULD achieve greatness but he starts from a different point that makes it more difficult. If you can't see that, I'm puzzled.

Never apologise for quoting something you agree with - that's fine.

Here's one for you: you seem to be acknowledging that race relations, in the US, were not perfect in the 80s. Is it possible, despite your misgivings, that they are STILL not perfect in 2020?

You may vehemently disagree with the way people are addressing these matters now, but I would contend that there are still matters to be resolved. The modus operandi employed to address those issues, we can debate. To shut it all down and say "There's no race issues in the US anymore, stop whining" is, in my opinion again, wooly-headed.

PS. Joe Biden, for the length of his political career, has achieved very little and would probably be a mediocre POTUS, at best. I should post that elsewhere but I'm venturing out for the afternoon!!
By phart at 28,Jun,20 11:01 other posts of phart 
Is equality not the goal of all the disruption as of lately?And of all the disruption for decades?
All Men equal?
If that is the true goal, then why is it that the white people's heritage and history are suddenly taboo but black heritage is ok to be public?
Case in point,in North carolina a confederate statue was the subject of a protest recently,all the while a Martin Luther King statue stands RIGHT ACROSS THE ROAD from it,with no protesters,no vandelism.
There should be no contraversy of EITHER if all men are to be equal and accept each other as they are.
Until everyone can accept each other as individuals and equals and learn tolerance of the faults they find,racial strife will be a forever problem.
I may be a odd person,but I was taught to respect others peoples property and not to damage it.And honestly,I have never had a true desire to hook a chain to a statue I didn't like and pull it down.Now that is not to say that damn atm machine that pissed me off a feew years ago didn't about feel the wrath of a chain,but that is another story.
NO one should want to damage things that don't belong to them.Apparently they were not raised with much morals.
By huxley999 at 28,Jun,20 11:54 other posts of huxley999 
Fucking hell, phart. Did you fall on your head .. again?

Do I need to point out that statues are a celebration of someone or something, and that there's a considerable difference in giving that honour to a guy who fought for Civil Rights (and equality) and giving it to a General who fought on the side of the Confederacy (the pro-slavery side in the Civil War)?

The colour of that heritage is barely relevant. One fought for equality, the other fought to preserve slavery.

I don't (before you start frothing at the mouth) personally agree with violently tearing down statues. There should be an open discussion about the merits of any particular public monument. You can then, as a society, decide whether it's still appropriate to honour individuals in that way or whether those monuments belong in a Museum, where the full, nuanced history of that individual can be put in context. Heritage doesn't need to be destroyed - it needs to be remembered in the context of the history of that time. However, monuments that offend a significant proportion of any society need to be questioned.

How do you think the average German Jew would feel if there were still statues of characters from The Third Reich in their public places?

I agree with you that you shouldn't damage things that don't belong to you. On the other hand, I don't think that you should have to walk through your own town/city and see statues honouring people that enslaved, or murdered, your great-grandparents.

By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 13:45 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, the confederacy tried to secede from the country. This s is treason. Martin Luther King was a man of God who tried to bring equality to his people. If you canít understand why one statue should be brought down and the other let alone, thereís something seriously wrong with you

By Scorps at 29,Jun,20 03:32 other posts of Scorps 
Hope you had a pleasant day out.

Now, let's get into this...

I'm glad to see that you do not agree with every syllable used in the video you provided, in an attempt to show me how "systemic racism" is keeping the white knee on the throats of black people. The video itself, produced by a white person, which immediately says what? Are white people the keepers of black people? Are black folk just too uneducated to speak for themselves? So some preachy white guy attempts to explain why he believes the black man is being oppressed by whitey. Oh the irony there!

Let's get this straight! "Stereotyping" i.e. black people are good at sports, white people can't dance, asian people are good at math, etc. I could go on and on but I won't. These are racist connotations, according to you and some others, right? Yet, for the argument of "systemic racism" it's OK to suggest that all black people are poor and oppressed. smh

Please, don't be puzzled. I never once said America or Humanity was perfect. There is NO such place nor person alive that can fit that bill. And I hate to break the bad news to you, there will NEVER be either! People are not robots, there will forever be degenerates in any given group or portion of society. Yes! There can even be racist black people. So to answer your question from above, sure there are still some issues even in 2020. But they certainly don't rise to rampant or widespread status. There was a terrific moment of unity following the death of George. If you had to assign a percentage what would you say? At least 98, 99% of American's, the world, agreed that what we saw was evil, outrageous, uncalled for? This oh so racist society agreed that it was wrong. Well, if there was so much racism within our society, why is the percentage so high? Shouldn't there be 10, 20 % celebrating the death of George and the lauding of the policeman? The United States managed to vote in a half black President. How could this happen in such a racist society? I assure you, the black vote was not enough to accomplish such a feat. Anyway, the race baiters, anarchists, and some others reared their ugly heads to ruin the moment instead of using it to give some sort of positivity to the mans death.

For every single modern day atrocity committed against a black person by a white person, and equally offensive act can be shown committed by a black person against a white one. I know, I know, I'm not allowed to say that. Afterall, whitey probably had it coming to them, right? Point is, we can go tit for tat till the end of time on the matter. What makes one races sins any less significant as the others, OR more significant than the others?

So, your example of the two 17 year olds... Yes, it may be easier for the one over the other, absolutely! But, he still is able to become accomplished, no? According to most of these things you are presenting, I must be black too! I've personally experienced many of the same issues. I've been denied loans, I went to a public school, once, I nor my family could afford college, I've been denied jobs for being the wrong color, twice, I've been racially profiled and harrassed by the police, and I'm not even upset at it, cause I get it! Do you? I've been evicted from my residence thanks to racism. Guess what! I must be black too! OMG! Perhaps these things are just excusable, cause afterall I'm actually white. I wasn't born with the so called "white privilege", whatever the fuck that is supposed to be, perhaps you and several others around here were, which would actually lend creedence to the whole "white guilt" thing but I wasn't. We were very poor often struggling to even eat when I was a child. I cannot tell you how many mayonnaise sandwiches I've eaten, because that's all there was. The ONLY privileged thing I ever got was the private school education that was given to me and many sacrifices were made to make that happen. Imagine attending a predominantly white school, where most of the kids are wearing nice clothes and shoes, and the only clothes and shoes your parent can afford are from goodwill. Now, I'm certainly not looking for any sympathy, but it is my opinion, that what we are/should be discussing here, is more in tune with financial inequalities rather than systemic racism. Class warfare?

There were SO many things in that video that can be shredded, and I've already written too much here, I just can't continue. Thanks for the video, if that's the proof off "systemic racism" I'll pass, it doesn't prove anything other than ANY race could actually fall into those situations. You don't find it a little disparaging to portray black people like that?
By huxley999 at 29,Jun,20 15:38 other posts of huxley999 
Lot's to digest and think about, Scorps!

Unfortunately, I'm going to be pretty busy over the next few days (Foodbank, visiting my elderly father, and dealing with the Estate of my late aunt) but I WILL give you a considered response when I can find some time.

Had a great afternoon out and about, cheers. Hope your weekend was fun.
By Scorps at 30,Jun,20 09:07 other posts of Scorps 
Heya Hux,

I actually stumbled across a video I would like you to see.

Like YOU, I'm not necessarily clinging on to everything being presented within the video. I have somewhat differing arguments that this video does not explain. That being said, I still believe that the video is worth watching as many of the points are valid as to why "SYSTEMIC RACISM" is nothing more than a political talking point or a tool to keep us divided as humans. I watched the video you provided to me no less than probably 3 times and would sincerely appreciate you returning the favor of at least once, in it's entirety. 😉

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Thanks Bro!
By huxley999 at 30,Jun,20 17:15 other posts of huxley999 
Confession time: I'm hammered!

I'll watch that tomorrow. In the meantime:

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PS. sensible me will reappear soon!
By bella! at 30,Jun,20 19:18 other posts of bella! 
Hammered? Did you let your hair down today???

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By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 13:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Too many righteous people spouting how they see the world and how wrong other people think.
Why not make it simple. A man named Floyd was murdered by three police officers. This is wrong. No amount of blah blah or demonstrating will make this right.
By huxley999 at 28,Jun,20 14:42 other posts of huxley999 
A certain amount of "blah blah or demonstrating" might lessen the chances of it happening again though.

Passive acceptance of a death, of that nature, would be remiss.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 15:23 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Might, sir. Thatís the defining word. After the last four months, I donít think I care anymore. If you think there wonít be a long line of Floyds in the future, you are kidding yourself. Itís not passive acceptance. At the risk of sounding racist, I like calling a spade a spade. Thereís plenty of people like you and Scorps that think you can fix the world with all this palavering. You donít need me.
By huxley999 at 28,Jun,20 16:38 other posts of huxley999 
No matter what age you are, or what previous disappointments you may have experienced, I think that's a pretty defeatist attitude.

I'll stick with Epicurean striving for a happier world. Using Epicurean as it meaning a disciple of his followings.

I now find myself in a subset with Scorps!? Interesting times!!
By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 17:02 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Just following your example The living of a life full of simplicity.
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I guess I should explain. Last March I came too close to death. I still get on my horse with my sword drawn and do the Joan of Ark thing. But mostly, I donít care
By phart at 28,Jun,20 18:29 other posts of phart 
Well,if you were to place a confederat statue in a "appropriate" location,do you honestly think everyone would go to see it and learn about the person? If it is in public,everyone is able to see it without making any effort at all.
I can't figure out how to post it,but I saw 1 of those "meme" things today and it was a picture of 3 black men,1 in cuffs,1 in a suit,and 1 was a cop.All 3 in a court room. It clearly displayed lifestyle choices determine the postion of a man,not his color.

By phart at 28,Jun,20 18:36 other posts of phart 
Careful,your apathy might get you 4 more years of TrUMP!
That is why we conservitives can't get any sleep either,our apathy would get us 4 years of Obama's aged sidekick.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 20:36 other posts of ANGEL1227 
If this country votes Trump in for another four years, they deserve covid for another four

By CountryCouple54 at 28,Jun,20 19:40 other posts of CountryCouple54 
That's funny. Because the black guys I work with everyday, have not and still continue to not wear masks. They claim black people can't get Covid19. But yet the media is claiming the black neighborhoods are getting hit the worse. Come on fuckers, get your shit right. My black co workers are good.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 20:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
CC, the media is reporting what the scientists are saying. Your black coworkers are reporting what Mama Washington is telling them. Who do you trust?
By CountryCouple54 at 28,Jun,20 20:41 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I trust my boys. They're black and have reminded me a thousand times, black people can't get this shit.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 07:12 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Just because something is true doesnít mean the other is too.
By CountryCouple54 at 29,Jun,20 07:24 other posts of CountryCouple54 
They're full of shit. Anyone can get it. I just thought it was ironic. Black people were claiming they couldn't get it. Now they claim their neighborhoods are
the hardest hit and they need money for health care.

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By phart at 25,Jun,20 21:47 other posts of phart 
The world needs more of that.

By Scorps at 26,Jun,20 00:36 other posts of Scorps 
What a great gesture!

Too bad everyone doesn't practice such honorable ways.

I heard that a bunch of lowlifes called the Police down in Tampa, claiming that someone had been shot and was laying in the street. When the 9 officers arrived, they discovered that the call was bogus, and then they were attacked by the group of thugs. I hope that your Son doesn't experience such a vile act. I'm not sure how far away that is from you guys. I sincerely hope he and many other Policemen stay safe from such pieces of shit in our society.
By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 12:18 other posts of dgraff 
I had a woman pay for my 60 dollars worth of groceryís one time I was so dumbfounded I didnít know what to say so I waited outside for her and loaded her groceries in her car for her she then told me I look like a hard working man that why she paid for me I myself think she wanted in my pants
By Scorps at 27,Jun,20 03:45 other posts of Scorps 
Awe, that was nice!

By bella! at 27,Jun,20 06:36 other posts of bella! 
MEN! She wanted in your pants, did she? What was it about that random act of EXTREME kindness that would give you the impression she wanted into your pants?
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 06:44 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha she was an older lonely woman with more money than she knew what to do with and a Mercedes Benz convertible I guess I was reading between the lines
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Letís face it she had everything she could possibly want so what else could she have been fishing for
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 07:43 other posts of ANGEL1227 
A thank you and the feeling she did something good for a fellow human being?---------------------------------------Due to complaints from the Lix opposition I edited this post
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 07:54 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha some women like the rough around the edges bad boy type or maybe she was just amazed to see a hard working man left in this country because she did comment that way
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 07:57 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You don't have to tell me about bad boys. In my years I've left many bad boys stuttering.

By bella! at 27,Jun,20 08:05 other posts of bella! 
Now what made you decide to toss in the last part, the younger, better looking, and groomed, part?
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 08:09 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Sweet lady, it was a personal opinion based on his personal page. If you have carnal knowledge of Dgraff and want to share it with us, go for it.
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 08:39 other posts of bella! 
Aren't you the first person to defend *lix* when someone says something about her physical attributes? Couldn't friends of her male companion suggest the same to him? Why her, not someone younger, better looking, and groomed? And in the same token, you get fired up when someone says something about you, your physical makeup. Just sayin'....
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 08:46 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Lix again? Do you dream of her? One of those love/hate relationships? I edited my post. It was tongue in cheek but this is a tough room. They only laugh with their assholes. If you noticed I have been a good girl but this time....
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 09:07 other posts of bella! 
Yeah, I noticed that you edited your original post about dgraff. That way when you ALERT *lix* about my post, she won't understand it and will feel JUSTIFIED in calling me a "cunt".

So it's okay when you are a warrior in *lix*'s army yet when I defend dgraff, you question whether I have "carnal knowledge"?

Don't start shit and there will be no shit.
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 09:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
ALERT LIX? Its been weeks if not months since we spoke. Don't take this the wrong way but, if Lix feels justified in calling you a cunt, she doesn't need input from me to do so. For the 200th time, I'm not her warrior. If I defend her it's only for the friendship. You always brag about your friendship with Dgraff outside the site. Did I get that wrong? because relationships outside the site seem to include carnal knowledge. If I'm wrong say so.

You, more than anyone, know that if I start shit, even the background color of your thread will turn brown. I made a comment and you came in mounted on a steed ready to do battle. I just don't feel like engaging you today. Go private mesg Dgraff and describe how you saved his honor but before you do, consider this

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By bella! at 27,Jun,20 07:59 other posts of bella! 
She was driving a Mercedes Benz? Maybe she was looking for an honest mechanic with some "nice tool(s)"!
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 08:10 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff working on anything more foreign than a Canadian F-150? HAHAHA. Not likely.
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 09:14 other posts of dgraff 
Oh we work on every thing including weed wackers chainsaw lawnmower log splitter office chairs and desks BMW Mercedes and a thousand more I donít feel like typing itís a one stop shop sense 1983 I was 21 with jet black hair yet
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 09:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Down boy. Your lover already saved your honor.
By phart at 27,Jun,20 09:53 other posts of phart 
You can't specialize in 1 thing and make steady money most of the time,you have to work on all kinds of stuff.
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 09:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Funny, I have a side line. I specialize on dicks and always have dinner, drinks, and sexy underwear

By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 10:26 other posts of dgraff 
Oh I donít care what people think or say about me unless Iím in to a bottle of Yukon then I might get a little snappy
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 10:59 other posts of bella! 
You get snappy? No way!
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 11:20 other posts of ANGEL1227 
And I rest my case
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 11:23 other posts of bella! 
Fuck off!

By bella! at 27,Jun,20 11:30 other posts of bella! 
And who was the flippin' ninnyhammer that apologized to the Australian membership because of the "rough treatment" the Australian news team received from the Washington D.C. police during peaceful demonstrations?

Geez, could you grovel enough......"I was and still am full of shame." Oh, my goodness, you are so pathetic when it comes to them!

By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 11:39 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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I am still full of anger how the Michigan cops roughed up the beavers.
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 11:50 other posts of dgraff 
Who the beaver cleaver

By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 11:49 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha touchť indeed
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 12:00 other posts of bella! 
She tires me.

And only she understands her last edited post.
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 12:26 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 14:55 other posts of dgraff 
I understand Bella she doesnít understand seniority like you and I do
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 16:28 other posts of bella! 
It's not about seniority, it's about the attempts to find fault in things I say, turn it around to belittle, insult, shame, disrespect me, etc,.

To suggest that I defend you because I intimately know you was unnecessary. I defend you when she says stupid shit like she said above. I simply had to remind her that's she is "Johnny-on-the-spot" as soon as anyone says anything about *lix*, whether it is unflattering OR NOT! (see above) And she couldn't let it go so I had to remind her about her "heartfelt" apology to the Australian's about the way the D.C. Police treated Australian media. Jeebus, her lips stay puckered 24/7 when it comes to them!
By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 17:20 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Bella, I swear on my dead fathers heart that this,

It's not about seniority, it's about the attempts to find fault in things I say, turn it around to belittle, insult, shame, disrespect me, etc,.

Is not true. I don't give a flying patuti about you. Any post just fits the thread.

By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 17:16 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Seniority, is that when old farts expect undeserved consideration to be number one?
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 20:27 other posts of dgraff 
Says some one who has none because she is to busy trying to deceive other members then to be truthful with them come to think of it your just like your lover Lix now go lick her big pussy and make her feel like the big boss bitch she thinks she is between the two of you there is not enough seniority to add up to me yet alone Bella
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And yes Iím drinking Yukon
By kebmo at 28,Jun,20 01:05 other posts of kebmo 
Brown liquor is dangerous in large amounts dgraff.
By dgraff at 28,Jun,20 05:35 other posts of dgraff 
Yes but it is Canadians finest

By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 07:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 

Says some one who has none because she is to busy trying to deceive other members

then to be truthful with them come to think of it your just like your lover Lix

now go lick her big pussy and make her feel like the big boss bitch she thinks she is

the two of you there is not enough seniority to add up to me yet alone Bella

And yes Iím drinking Yukon
By dgraff at 28,Jun,20 23:03 other posts of dgraff 
You mustíve been a blonde before your hair turned gray
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 08:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It's still blonde and little gray

By 2nice at 28,Jun,20 09:01 other posts of 2nice 
I donít understand why you guys continue to talk to that thing.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,Jun,20 09:11 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Define thing

By bella! at 29,Jun,20 03:59 other posts of bella! 
My aim is to ignore her HOWEVER, that's not always achieved.
When she says something about someone, another member, that is nothing but pure unadulterated bullshit, I gotta address that.
By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 07:01 other posts of dgraff 
Itís ok Bella that picture she used was not my best it was to show how tall I am nothing more and I had just woken up I shudder to think what the mouth of the south looks like when she first wakes up with her face smeared with green greasy goop and her hair in curlers as she is reaching for her rite aid clip on pony tail
By bella! at 29,Jun,20 07:38 other posts of bella! 
Oh, that's quite a picture that you painted!
By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 08:13 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha isnít it though no wonder old chuckles sleeps in till noon heís tired of beating her off with his ugly stick
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 08:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff, ill put mine against yours anytime


It's two years old but I still look like this.....except for the bypass scar
By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 09:40 other posts of dgraff 
Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder I never claimed to be a prince Iím just like you an old slut I still get my fair share of young guys HBU
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Oh by the way I deleted my picture seeing as how it bothers you
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 09:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You should not have done that. Beauty is skin deep. It's what you show to the world that's inside you that counts. That is the real beauty of a person.listen, think, react.
By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 10:30 other posts of dgraff 
Oh great then so I am beautiful after all
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 10:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Well, lets not go overboard
If I remember correctly I've called you a teddy bear.

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 09:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Slutty whore, slutty whore. How many times do I have to remind you.

By bella! at 29,Jun,20 10:50 other posts of bella! 
I thought that was a wonderful picture! We saw the 8 foot archway, the 10 foot ceiling and the bottle of Yukon Jack sitting on the table next to your comfy chair! So to delete it because of what one argumentative senior citizen had to say was silly!
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 10:53 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Perfect place for some nooky
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He can always repost it. After all, if his main squeeze likes it, well, then........

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 09:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
At least the picture can be painted. I put my body out there for everyone to see. I don't show a cat

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 08:16 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I thought Lix had you blocked?

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 08:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Bella you are full of shit. You always start acting bitchy hoping I'll bite and you have an excuse to block me.

By 2nice at 29,Jun,20 09:52 other posts of 2nice 
If you two would just ignore it, it will eventually go away. It craves attention and it must have it to survive. I stopped talking to it a long time ago.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 09:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It's hard to talk with a dick deep in your throat.--------------------------------------- added after 74 secondsTell me, do you wipe your ass after getting fucked?--------------------------------------- added after 4 minutesHey, girls, would you fuck this meelymouth cock sucker?


By bella! at 29,Jun,20 10:54 other posts of bella! 
IT is fucked up and is trolling pages so that IT can make their pathetic and vulgar posts!
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 10:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Bella just because you are a rethread virgin (more than 10 yrs without a fuck) doesn't allow you to opine

By bella! at 29,Jun,20 11:02 other posts of bella! 
I'm increasingly growing tired of IT.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 13:54 other posts of ANGEL1227 
IT FEELS THE SAME WAY ABOUT YOU. You stick your finger in the beehive then complain you get stung. 2nice might be right. Stop sticking your fucking attitude in my posts and I wont need to call you a bitch. Comments are ok, calling me IT and a troll is not.
By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 15:06 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha it rubs the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again
By Scorps at 30,Jun,20 08:54 other posts of Scorps 
DGRAFF!! That rotten ham hasn't seen a "hose" in probably 20 years. Don't kid yourself!
By dgraff at 30,Jun,20 10:40 other posts of dgraff 

By ANGEL1227 at 30,Jun,20 12:12 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Scorps thatís no way to talk about Bella

By Jamie at 30,Jun,20 11:36 other posts of Jamie 
I don't know why they do
By bella! at 30,Jun,20 14:33 other posts of bella! 
I do my best to ignore it and its lies, vulgarities and the for shit attitude.

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 08:23 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You never contribute anything worth reading here. All you do is troll the chat rooms telling everyone how you suck dick no questions asked. The only thing you contribute here is your put downs of other members. Well, this ďthingĒ thinks that you are a piece of shit with a real bad hunger for lots of cum. Go away. Go where you can bend over and pleasure a whole bunch of assholes like you.
Iím going to enjoy making you famous in the forums

By dgraff at 30,Jun,20 07:24 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha that was a hoot pucker up and kiss that big fat ass

By bella! at 29,Jun,20 16:34 other posts of bella! 
For those looking for a Monday smile and giggle......

Notes made and kept by admin when he, in this case, banned a member. It's not necessary to paste his entire reason, this is the abridged version.

Current member: ANGEL1227 detected as possible previously banned members:
mandy658 (#573272):
Abusive or annoying or make inappropriate comments.....

You decide if admin is wrong, me, I rest my case!
By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 19:17 other posts of ANGEL1227 
High probability. I've had more accounts during the years. I quit and come back. Admin has allowed me to stay. I've been here, under the new name, since February.
Bella is the one that has tried for years to have me banned.BTW, that little blurb is all that shows. Admin does not listen to Bella
Now you can have a Monday laugh
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Now you want a real laugh?

Number of members who blacklisted bella!: 41

Check it out. Go to her page and hit on the smiley face.
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Check out her "pussy"
By aoneeyedmonster at 29,Jun,20 22:02 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Cat fight, cat fight.....now can we have more info on the pussy reference

By dgraff at 29,Jun,20 22:31 other posts of dgraff 
High probability donít forget about two warm mitts and two warm mitts 2 and wet noodle and one I canít remember with a candy dish
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Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we practiced to deceive
By bella! at 29,Jun,20 23:27 other posts of bella! 
How could you forget that one of her secret profiles was bonbon52?
By dgraff at 30,Jun,20 05:05 other posts of dgraff 
Oh thank you I couldnít remember that one

By ANGEL1227 at 30,Jun,20 07:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
How can we forget your other account AKA Skittles and all those you created when fighting with Lix

By JustWill at 29,Jun,20 17:22 other posts of JustWill 
A little Randy to brighten your day:

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By Scorps at 29,Jun,20 20:19 other posts of Scorps 
How about a cup-o-Joe to go with that brightened day. ☕

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By bella! at 29,Jun,20 14:14 other posts of bella! 
For those looking for a Monday smile and giggle......

Notes made and kept by admin when he, in this case, banned a member. It's not necessary to paste his entire reason, this is the abridged version.

Current member: ANGEL1227 detected as possible previously banned members:
mandy658 (#573272):
Abusive or annoying or make inappropriate comments.....

You decide if admin is wrong, me, I rest my case!

By bella! at 29,Jun,20 12:36 other posts of bella! 

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 10:26 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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The conservative Supreme Court ruled. They got it right, Scorps

By ANGEL1227 at 29,Jun,20 10:13 other posts of ANGEL1227 

What a sad state of affairs things have become....Mob rule is always the dumbest way to be.... I'm loathe to attack people's appearance..Just cuz it's the lamest way to provoke someone....So if you are calling someone fat, ugly, mocking their appearance,more fool you...You know you don't like it when it happens to you or your friends,so why do it to others ?

By bella! at 28,Jun,20 21:50 other posts of bella! 
Time for something lighthearted.

Denture-Stealing Puppy Becomes Internet SensationÖ: only registered users can see external links
By dgraff at 28,Jun,20 22:38 other posts of dgraff 
OMG thatís funny

By CountryCouple54 at 28,Jun,20 19:46 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Has anyone ever thought why the 2 paramedics, dressed in cop uniforms with vests on, never brought a stretcher, a medical bag, and never tried to proceed with CPR on Floyd. The rolled him on a back board and took him away. No one seeing that's not right

By ANGEL1227 at 22,Jun,20 18:32 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Anyone that refuses to wear face mask in public should be jailed. These people are egotists that endanger other people
By bella! at 22,Jun,20 19:36 other posts of bella! 
Hey, this man was fighting his way into a Walmart in Florida.

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By ANGEL1227 at 22,Jun,20 20:02 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Well, it is Florida.

By kebmo at 23,Jun,20 01:40 other posts of kebmo 
People should understand that if any retail outlet says that you have to wear blue or green shorts in order to be served, they can. Retail outlets are private property and customers must adhere to the rules set out by the retailer.
As long as it's not discriminatory the retailer sets the rules. For instance you can't make a purchase at Costco (with the exception of prescriptions which might be a Canadian thing) without being a member.
There was the story about the baker who refused to bake a cake for a gay couple and it ended up in the Supreme Court in the US. The baker won based on the fact that it was against his religion to do so.
I live in a city of 100,000 and we have had 35 cases since the beginning, 34 of whom have recovered and one is active now. Nowhere is it required for me to wear a mask. They are the exception, not the rule. For that I feel very lucky.
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 06:29 other posts of dgraff 
Iím afraid this will be the new normal I donít think the virus will go away itís here and thatís that so until they come up with a vaccine we will just have to put up with it I carry my mask with me were ever I go personally I took my no mask no service sign down a few weeks ago but I wear one if Iím required to
By bella! at 23,Jun,20 08:13 other posts of bella! 
Since the onset of this pandemic, I wear a mask when in public. Basically, I continue to wear a mask to protect myself from EVERYONE ELSE and to feel reasonably certain that I'm doing what is necessary to to ensure that I'm not going to compromise my parents health and safety.

It's peculiar to hear some folk's spin on wearing a mask. Our local store(s), ie Kroger, post to wear a mask. Some folks seem to have the "fuck it" attitude and will not comply. I overheard a local merchant, who was doing her grocery shopping, being boisterous on the matter. It was amusing to overhear her rationale regarding her "right" not following the posted "order".
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 10:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Nobly said, Ms Bella. Take it as you like but, I applaud you. You are lucky to have your parents around to love and protect.

By bella! at 23,Jun,20 07:52 other posts of bella! 
So you are not required to wear a mask, but do you?
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 08:23 other posts of dgraff 
Yes I wear a mask if required but if itís not posted I skip it
By Scorps at 23,Jun,20 09:54 other posts of Scorps 
I think many many people are a little confused about the wearing of masks. Wearing a mask is NOT the law. It's merely a suggestion/recommendation. Nothing more, nothing less. These super citizens damned and determined to enforce such a thing upon others, should mind their own fucking business. Unless of course, it's THEIR business and they have posted the requirement to enter THEIR premises. In which case, rather than becoming combative with a person simply refuse service and call the police for assistance (as long as they still exist and haven't been "defunded"). According to the experts, if there is such a person(s), the wearing of masks does not really guarantee that you won't be infected by the Chinese virus. That would require filtered respirators. Also, that the effectiveness of the "face mask" is moreso for those that are already infected by said Chinese virus. Facemasks are faaar more likely to help from spreading the virus outwardly than inwardly. If it's posted as a requirement and you don't wish to comply, leave! Go somewhere else, have a little respect. If given a choice, one way or the other, choose wisely for you and those around you.

To the original poster, ANGEL1227 of this topic...

There sure were a lot of "egotist" out "mostly peacefully protesting" that you are calling for the arrest of. Can we use video and other sources and gather those law breakers up and still incarcerate them, even after the fact?!
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 10:23 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Perhaps incarceration is too much, but, when you get stopped for a traffic infraction and given a ticket, you are being arrested. Yes, I say find these people and issue a stiff fine of $100 or more to each and everyone identified. If you are going to demonstrate (bitch) about something you feel so passionate about take your chances and pay for the law breaking. I understand it's optional. I just don't understand

These super citizens damned and determined to enforce such a thing upon others, should mind their own fucking business.

This statement shows how little regard this poster has for other fellow citizens, especially since he himself says it's mostly for the protection of other citizens. What can you expect from a Trumpster. To him and his like it's always about Big Brother dumping on the little man. Maybe if they would take more time to help instead of bitch this country would be in better shape


By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 15:12 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Scorps , I was looking for something else and this tidbit popped up.

MIAMI Ė As Florida passes a tough milestone for coronavirus cases, several South Florida mayors are getting tougher with their mask mandate.

On Monday, hours after the state surpassed 100,000 cases of COVID-19, the mayors of nearly a dozen cities in Miami-Dade County announced that they will be requiring people to wear face coverings in public.

ďWe are going to be implementing a mask-in-public rule,Ē City of Miami Mayor Francis Suarez said. ďEveryone will have to be wearing a mask in public.Ē

The cities participating in the mask mandate include:

North Miami Beach
Miami Gardens
Key Biscayne
Biscayne Park
West Miami
Miami Shores
El Portal
Their directive differs from the countywide order that says people must wear a mask indoors in public places but only outside in situations where you cannot practice social distancing to remain at least 6 feet apart.

Imagine that. Mandatory

By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 07:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Imagine my surprise when our governor shut down liquor at bars. Other governors and several cities requiring mask in public. Didn't they read your post?

By bella! at 23,Jun,20 08:25 other posts of bella! 
I think that the Walmart personnel took their job way too seriously. The woman (?) attempted to stop the elderly man from entering Walmart and her initial attempt failed. It doesn't make sense to me why she continued to engage with the man, me, since her initial efforts failed, she could have chosen to call the local police. To get into a pushing and shoving match which resulted in the elderly guy falling down, was unnecessary and could probably result in a lawsuit. And just an observation, the Walmart lady was NOT wearing her mask properly.

By Scorps at 23,Jun,20 10:02 other posts of Scorps 
@ Kebmo

Albeit you are 100% correct, you forgot ONE teenie tiny little caveat...

If said individual trying to enter such an establishment, EVEN with such a posting prominently displayed, is black, you CANNOT and will NOT deny them entry. That, you can take to the bank!
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 10:31 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I will not argue such a dumb statement. You are saying blacks are, as a rule, rule breakers. Let's not be racist. I saw many blacks wearing masks in the demonstrations
By Scorps at 23,Jun,20 18:46 other posts of Scorps 
Dont be dumb! I didn't say or imply that at all...
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 18:49 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Fake news baby. Just like your Messiah. Say it and deny it.

By kebmo at 23,Jun,20 13:45 other posts of kebmo 
Scorps, since you mentioned it, every single one of the people I've seen causing a scene about this whole thing on ANY news source have been white. 50-70 year old entitled white asshole men.
By Scorps at 23,Jun,20 19:01 other posts of Scorps 
Seems both of you missed the point. I partially agree with your last statement but I assure you, it's only because no one would dare show you the obverse. If you think otherwise you're a fool!

I took my Son to the local Goodwill, he likes to search for antiques. He entered and within minutes come back out and grabbed a facemask from the car. He said the woman told him he had to WEAR it or he wasn't welcome. Ok... As I was sitting there, two more people tried to get in, also not wearing masks. Both came right back out within minutes, one retrieved their mask from their car the other left. Black lady pulls up, gets out her car, no mask. She goes in, I expect to see her shortly, nope... Turns out the worker did in fact say something to her but she began to get loud and make it out to be racially motivated. In which case she was allowed to continue shopping.
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 19:52 other posts of ANGEL1227 
And this proves what? You think only whites behave badly? The only thing I see is that the manager did not call the cops. Goodwill is a large organisation. Maybe their rules are tell patrons they have to wear masks but don't push it
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 21:40 other posts of dgraff 
Or maybe the manager of good will was afraid the old woman would jump up and down kicking and screaming playing her racist card and cause a riot outside the store you seem to think calling the cops is the answer to every thing what happens when they take away the power from the police soon young people wonít want to become police officer then what
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Then we go back to taking the law in to our own hands I guess
By aoneeyedmonster at 23,Jun,20 21:42 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
/member.php?w=485312--------------------------------------- added after 3 minutesthis member should were a belly mask
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By ANGEL1227 at 24,Jun,20 08:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
This is off-subject, but, how do I find someone's member#?
By bella! at 24,Jun,20 11:09 other posts of bella! 
I am able to hover over the member's name, click and hold and it will display the member's ID number. Just an f.y.i., this works on my phone.
By ANGEL1227 at 24,Jun,20 11:52 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By phart at 23,Jun,20 21:51 other posts of phart 
No it proves that the management is aware if they push to hard against a black person they will get unwelcome publicity and such that will affect bussiness,
You may not see it in your nick of the woods,but the issue is real and has been a regular problem for years.
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 21:58 other posts of dgraff 
I see it and am very aware of the situation
By ANGEL1227 at 24,Jun,20 07:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
All your arguments are worthy of consideration. But not one suggests doing the right thing no matter what the cost
By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 08:35 other posts of dgraff 
So tell us all what you think is the right thing to do
By ANGEL1227 at 24,Jun,20 10:10 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I would have offered her a mask. If she still refused to wear one i would have called the cops in a quiet manner and waited for them. I would not have not pressed charges if she left voluntarily.
We have become a country with no ruder. Big business cheats, so what? My F150 still rocks. My tickets to Hamilton are waiting at the ticket booth thanks for some booby play with my manager. I"m black and Black lives Matter so I get in first to the cinema. get no speeding tickets thanks to some boob jiggling and a bit of "peek". You a spick? stay out of my bar. Drink the bleach
Who would have thought Jim Jones wasn't that far off the mark.
Please excuse me. Today is the first time in four months I have a pitcher of Mimosas next to me.
You seem to think because I'm a "libertard" I gave up on the rule of law. My fucking president did that. I guess maybe I should emulateted him and fuck a porn star. Sorry, baby, I'm happy. I'm sad, but, I'm happy
By phart at 24,Jun,20 10:59 other posts of phart 
If you can smell anything thru the mask,how can you make sure it is going to stop the virus. Dgraff will understand this,the micron rating on air ,fuel filters and oil filters is very important on vehicals,if the micron rating is to high on a filter it will decrease oil pressure,or cut down on fuel flow and really ruin a engine.
Similar situation with a mask,a hanky over your nose is not going to stop much more than a golf ball as far as a virus is concerned.
By ANGEL1227 at 24,Jun,20 11:11 other posts of ANGEL1227 

N95 mask packaging has a label or verbiage indicating protection down to 0.3 microns. Microns are small
Ė 1 millionth of a meter. Pollen particles are often 10 microns or bigger. Bacteria are often about 1
micron. COVID19 has a diameter of approximately 60Ė140 nm or 0.06 to 1.4 microns.

By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 11:24 other posts of dgraff 

By phart at 24,Jun,20 18:04 other posts of phart 
have you tried to find a n95? Aint no room in the basement,I am upstairs!And I aint stayin if I don't want to.
By ANGEL1227 at 25,Jun,20 08:11 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 12:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Cheap N95 mask. Worn once, kept falling off. Slightly yellowed. Going back to sanitary napkins. If interested get back with me
By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 20:36 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha you should see my cloth mask in my rollback tow truck it has greasy finger prints all over it
By phart at 27,Jun,20 09:56 other posts of phart 
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By phart at 27,Jun,20 18:52 other posts of phart 
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Please read this.
OF course they can't come out and say not wear 1.But it clearly states,◾cloth Will not protect the wearer against airborne transmissible infectious agents due to loose fit and lack of seal or inadequate filtration.

N95 from another source, it is NOT designed to filter OUTgoing air. Only what goes in.
Surgical mask,designed for STERILE enviroments.Works ok for wuhan but clogs quickly,30 minutes needs chunking.
Cloth,Holds moisture and can grow mildew OVER NIGHT,so wash often,
By kebmo at 28,Jun,20 01:22 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, in the province I live in, Alberta, Wendy's, McDonalds and Tim Horton's donuts are giving a four pack of medical masks to any customer that wants them. These are being supplied by the Alberta government. In my city of 100,000 there is ONE active Covid case as of today.

By bella! at 27,Jun,20 12:13 other posts of bella! 
Have you noticed the picture profile for AlwaysBlue ? The profile is filled with visually interesting and artistic pictures that somewhat reminiscent of a former member, Obscura, a beautiful, interesting and artistic SYC member.

By bella! at 27,Jun,20 10:24 other posts of bella! 

Here's the scenario, a member, with a barrel full of internet pictures in their gallery, reports another member to the Evaluation Panel for posting "fake" pics, fake in the sense that they are Photoshop'd.

What would you do?
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 10:30 other posts of dgraff 
In a case like that I say either they both stay or they both leave I myself might report the one with the barrel of internet pictures just for being a tattle tail
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 10:41 other posts of bella! 
Nothing will become of it, he's a paid member.
By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 10:51 other posts of dgraff 
Oh i see so itís the pot calling the kettle black
By bella! at 27,Jun,20 10:58 other posts of bella! 
Yes. But what I find unusual is that the "pot" is a verified member. What three knuckleheads would verify a member that has a barrel full of internet pictures posted in their gallery which they are claiming ownership to? When I say claiming ownership to, if you note the titles of some of those pictures, they clearly say, "My ex", "My girlfriend".... For conversation purposes, the ex and the girlfriend's pictures are ALL OVER THE INTERNET. Also, the "pot" has received site recognition by way of votes and comments for the internet pictures he has posted.

By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 10:11 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Question to the men. What makes men think it's sexy taking pics of their junk while sitting on the toilet? Hey, new contest. Sexiest toilet seat with guy showing his junk.

By bella! at 26,Jun,20 21:24 other posts of bella! 
Someone must really have some screws loose in their head, system notified me that Ravioli_Max was referred to the Evaluation Panel! What is he guilty of? Is that he's just too nice?
By kebmo at 27,Jun,20 01:57 other posts of kebmo 
Well he's still here so I guess someone's attempt failed but you know, he's got NAKED photos of himself on his profile!!! Just all out there for anyone to see!!

By dgraff at 27,Jun,20 06:47 other posts of dgraff 
Most likely a new member that never took the time to speak with max it happens

By ANGEL1227 at 27,Jun,20 07:41 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Ravioli Max? He's so bland he should change his name to Latte Max. He's a sweetheart.

By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 17:50 other posts of JustWill 
Here's a random thought:

UP can be really damn high, but DOWN has its limits.

That is all.
By bigg at 26,Jun,20 19:15 other posts of bigg 
What goes up

must come down


(itīs a song)
By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 20:03 other posts of JustWill 
I refuse to sing the "doo-dahh-doo-dee-dah part.

By bella! at 26,Jun,20 20:17 other posts of bella! 
Spinnin' wheel got to go 'round
Talkin' 'bout your troubles it's a cryin' sin
Ride a painted pony let the spinnin' wheel spin.....
By phart at 26,Jun,20 22:20 other posts of phart 
You matter.
Unless you multiply yourself
by the speed of light squared...

Then You energy.
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 22:26 other posts of bella! 
Okie dokie!

By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 20:09 other posts of JustWill 
A confession:

It starts out being a lot of fun, but then I realize I am just being cruel. I need to work on that.
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 20:17 other posts of bella! 
Wow! Where is this confession coming from? And why are you confessing?
By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 21:07 other posts of JustWill 
Confession, so I am told, is good for the soul.

I promised that I would use my super powers only for good, yet I sometimes find that I am fucking with someone's mind for the pure joy of brain-fuckery.

Now that I have confessed, however, I feel much better about it.

Let the brain-fucking resume!
By CountryCouple54 at 26,Jun,20 21:46 other posts of CountryCouple54 
That's what I'm talking about. We want the real Will.
By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 21:50 other posts of JustWill 
Far be it from me to deny the people what they want.
Just point me at a brain, CC54, and I will bugger that sucker!

(I hope, btw, that you and yours are all doing well and remaining safe and healthy these days.)

By bella! at 26,Jun,20 09:54 other posts of bella! 
I find myself looking this picture and attempting to analyze what I see.

When I look at this, my eyes go directly to the chest and nipple area. My eyes think they are seeing a layer of skin being shed, like a reptile or sheer fabric. What do you see, please explain?

By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 10:45 other posts of huxley999 
Thanks, bella!

That's an image I fear I may have nightmares over - weirdly disturbing!
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 11:07 other posts of bella! 
It is odd, but what is it that you see?
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 11:13 other posts of huxley999 
Do I have to look at it again!!?

From memory it does look like some sort of morphing, a woman's head and shoulders emerging from a masculine torso. Reminds me of a David Cronenberg film, although I'm struggling to think which one!

By bella! at 26,Jun,20 11:15 other posts of bella! 
Does this mean the picture eff'd with your mind and you won't be able to have a fab Friday?
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 11:22 other posts of huxley999 
I think I need some "quiet time" in my garden to recover! It's the juxtaposition of the feminine (but grotesque) upper portions with the cock and the very manly hands that triggered my ick response.

Even (so-called) beautiful ladyboys make me a little nauseous, if I'm being honest. Chicks with dicks is definitely NOT my cuppa tea.
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 12:25 other posts of bella! 
So your "ick response" is triggered by ladyboys? In most instances, I find them quite beautiful.
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 14:03 other posts of huxley999 
Yep, I prefer my sexual partners (and my visual cues) to be 100% of the female variety. Not knocking it though (the admiration of ladyboys), it's just not for me.
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 14:49 other posts of bella! 
Yes, I understand that you're not attracted to or interested in a ladyboy, but I am in awe. I find a true ladyboy to be an enigma, many so are delicate and nothing about them looks masculine, except their genitalia.
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 15:34 other posts of huxley999 
Enigmatic and delicate - maybe so.

But that "except" is a big one for me!!
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 16:02 other posts of bella! 
Their "exception" is often small and delicate, too!
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 16:14 other posts of huxley999 
Ha ha.

It's still an "outie" rather than an "innie"!

How would you spell "innie"? That doesn't look right to me, even though I know it's only vernacular I would still like to be right!!

By 2nice at 26,Jun,20 10:50 other posts of 2nice 
That creepy photo was altered with an app according to itís owner.
By bella! at 26,Jun,20 11:12 other posts of bella! 
Heck, I didn't notice that there was an "explanation". So the member used a femininity app on one of his pictures and the above was the end result. Okay, I understand the hair, the face but what's going on on the chest, dammit!?
By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 12:08 other posts of dgraff 
Very weird indeed
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 12:18 other posts of ANGEL1227 
That's how I feel after CABG. It's enough to give up ogling pics for the weekend.
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 16:15 other posts of huxley999 
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 17:19 other posts of ANGEL1227 
coronary artery bypass graft
By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 17:22 other posts of huxley999 
Cheers! Is that a commonly-used acronym in the US?
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 19:07 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Yes in medical circles. I was working at the hospital when they rushed me into surgery

By huxley999 at 26,Jun,20 17:48 other posts of huxley999 
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Is this just an example of technology being less than perfect, or is it a warning of a terrible, dystopian future where orthodoxy will be valued more than an enquiring mind?
By JustWill at 26,Jun,20 17:55 other posts of JustWill 
Artificial Intelligence is artificially intelligent.

5G does not cause coronavirus.
Everyone knows that the virus is caused by Witches...

By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 12:45 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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Everything is bigger and better in Texas. Even assholes.

By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 12:37 other posts of ANGEL1227 
This poll surprised me both for the interest and by the results

It seems that both men and women like to start a BJ with the cock being semi-soft or totally soft and bringing it to a full hard erection. I like it too.

By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 07:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 

Live TV
Trump's post-Covid bubble is popping
Analysis by Stephen Collinson, CNN

Updated 1:22 AM EDT, Fri June 26, 2020merica's single worst day of new coronavirus cases obliterated President Donald Trump's fantasyland vision of a post-Covid America -- even as he sowed new diversions in an effort to hide the reality of his leadership void in a deepening national crisis.

More than 37,000 new cases of Covid-19 were reported on Thursday, according to Johns Hopkins University data. The numbers superseded the previous darkest day of the pandemic, on April 24. The new data suggests that the sacrifices made by tens of millions of Americans who stayed at home, that cost many of them their jobs, might have been in vain. It also suggest that the aggressive state re-openings championed by Trump, who wants a quick economic reboot to boost his reelection hopes, exacerbated a situation that now seems close to tipping out of control across a swathe of southern states.

By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 08:23 other posts of dgraff 
Really Pennsylvania numbers are steadily falling every day
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So letís give Pennsylvania a big round of applause 👏 for their patience and doing the right things to combat this super virus 🦠 or maybe the people here are just that tough they donít get it
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 12:24 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Pennsylvania and 2 more states are doing great. Congratulations, Keep it up. Now.......about those other 47 states.

By bella! at 23,Jun,20 21:39 other posts of bella! 
It makes my head spin to think that people will eat cats and dogs but it makes my heart ache to know how these animals are killed for them to do so.
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 22:00 other posts of dgraff 
I know Bella Iím a big time animal lover stuff like that breaks my heart
By Jamie at 23,Jun,20 22:30 other posts of Jamie 
That's reason I don't like to eat out
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 22:33 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha same here Jamie you never know what your eating
By Jamie at 23,Jun,20 22:43 other posts of Jamie 
Very true

By ANGEL1227 at 25,Jun,20 08:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Hare and cat look the same when skinned for cooking
By phart at 25,Jun,20 18:30 other posts of phart 
My dad told me when he was a kid that when him a buddy shot rabbits took them to the store to sell to people walking by,they had to leave a foot on them as peoples cats were getting gone.
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 08:05 other posts of ANGEL1227 
By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 08:20 other posts of dgraff 
Iíve eaten wild rabbits for years there quite delicious but they donít look like a cat whatsoever to me rabbits are much more muscular as cats laze around all the time and squirrels are very muscular just try climbing trees every day
By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 11:45 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You live in the country and know about game. The average city dweller thinks meat is grown on a tree.

By ANGEL1227 at 26,Jun,20 11:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
We had a Chinese restaurant in Georgia and there was a complaint the cats in the neighborhood were disappearing. No proof but they had to close down. I was glad as they kept getting in trouble with the health inspectors
By dgraff at 26,Jun,20 12:03 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah we have a few questionable Chinese restaurants in my area to chicken should be light in color and stringy
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Thereís so many things questionable about the Chinese I wonder why stuttering Joe Biden canít see that
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By huxley999 at 24,Jun,20 17:00 other posts of huxley999 
Given the current "tensions", what do you make of this?

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By bella! at 24,Jun,20 20:01 other posts of bella! 
I think that Mayor Beth Bashert wasn't thinking when she said; ďSince I will be crucified if I vote against any black person on any commission, Iím going to vote yes,Ē Even if she felt that way, her sentiments should not have been verbalized and I think her resignation was in order.
By phart at 24,Jun,20 21:47 other posts of phart 
sad thing is she was only telling the truth.
Either way,she was not on the winning end.
Being quite and voting no mighta been a better step if she felt the person was not qualified.
Jobs should be filled by qualification,not color.I think it is "afirmitive action" Until that is no longer a factor in hiring,there will be problems.

af∑firm∑a∑tive ac∑tion
"(in the context of the allocation of resources or employment) the practice or policy of favoring individuals belonging to groups known to have been discriminated against previously.
By dgraff at 25,Jun,20 06:00 other posts of dgraff 
At least she spoke what was on her mind thatís a good trait on her part truthfulness
By bella! at 25,Jun,20 06:33 other posts of bella! 
Yes, dgraff, she said what was on her mind but that doesn't her actions right.

By bella! at 25,Jun,20 06:32 other posts of bella! 
She told the truth? Oddly, I had a spirited conversation with someone last week about "the truth" as it relates to religion and she sprinkled in some politics, too. Hey, all the time spent in quarantine and what she said wound me up. Anyway.....I don't believe that she belongs to a "formal" religion/doctrine ie Catholic, Lutheran, Baptist, etc, however in her "world" she knows that what she knows is basically the "absolute truth". And she doesn't feel that the other organized religions do. Bottom line, and this goes beyond religion, I feel that "my truth" and "you truth" can differ but does that mean her truth is the one that is right or wrong?

I might be sitting and enjoying a cup of coffee when a butt ugly baby goes by. Is it my place to gasp and say that that is the ugliest baby that I've ever seen? After all, it is the truth in "my world". Just MY OPINION, we need to be cautious about speaking the truth because it can reveal just how insensitive or stoooopid we really are.
By dgraff at 25,Jun,20 07:02 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha yeah I donít just come out and say what is on my mind every were only on this site or at my favorite watering holes I can hold my tongue better than my younger brother heís really bad

By phart at 25,Jun,20 18:29 other posts of phart 
There may lie the real problem.People are afraid to offend so much now that we are all used to be lied to.NO one knows what anyone really thinks anymore because we sugar coat our feelings to be gentle.
In the case of the ugly baby, either don't acknowledge the baby or say, Well he has your eyes! or something like that.
In the case of the mayor,we know the climate right now,and had she made a no vote,she would have caught hell about it.

By kebmo at 24,Jun,20 04:05 other posts of kebmo 
This is a great, easy way to put on a duvet cover. It's easier with two people but can be done with one person. My friend Brad and I did it today after my cover came out of the dryer.
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By bella! at 24,Jun,20 04:24 other posts of bella! 
Neat trick! Me, I'm in half in, half out and changing duvet covers easily takes 20 minutes and a whole lot of fluffing!
By kebmo at 24,Jun,20 04:33 other posts of kebmo 
It took us five minutes!
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..,and itís done properly!!
By bella! at 24,Jun,20 05:01 other posts of bella! 
I think you're right, it's probably easier to do as a team sport but is still possible to do by yourself.
By kebmo at 24,Jun,20 05:20 other posts of kebmo 
It was more fun to do naked too! Just a bonus.
By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 06:04 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha I spent more time figuring out what a duvet was
By bella! at 24,Jun,20 06:13 other posts of bella! 
A duvet is the BEST and MOST WONDERFULLEST (new word) thing anyone could have created for home use! Essentially, it is a "pillowcase" for your comforter. A duvet not only provides protection for your comforter, which in many cases is a major expense, in my opinion, a duvet can change the decor of your bedroom at a fraction of the price.
By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 06:22 other posts of dgraff 
That worked good on a single bed but I wanna see him do it on a king by himself
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So a duvet is a fancy name for the mattress cover
By bella! at 24,Jun,20 06:47 other posts of bella! 
No, nothing for the mattress, the comforter aka bedspread.

I've spent HUNDREDS of dollars on what I think is a good goose down comforter and a duvet protects my investment.
By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 08:43 other posts of dgraff 
Oh I see I have a big fuzzy mink fur comforter I found it in the house tucked away in a closet I suspect it was my motherís or grandmaís I suspect itís very old I left it in the cover I found it in the cover is canvas and there is a tag on it that said 100 percent mink

By kebmo at 24,Jun,20 14:24 other posts of kebmo 
dgraff, just to clarify the duvet is the blanket (usually down filled) inside. The duvet cover is the outside protector which is indeed like a pillow case and the most wonderfullest thing. The duvet can't usually be washed in the washer so the duvet cover protects it and you wash the cover.
Mine is goose down and I did have it dry cleaned once.
By dgraff at 24,Jun,20 18:45 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha sounds like a whole lot of trouble just for something pretty me Iím happy with a bottom sheet and a sleeping bag

By huxley999 at 24,Jun,20 09:50 other posts of huxley999 
I've been using THIS method all my adult life:

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By bella! at 24,Jun,20 10:56 other posts of bella! 
That looks like a method which would be much quicker if you're going it alone!

By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 07:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
As regards his response to the pandemic, there is now no argument against the proposition that El Caudillo del Mar-a-Lago is a world-historical barbarian motherfcker. Some of the malfeasance and nonfeasance for which he will be remembered can be attributed to his own uniquely corruption and his own towering incompetence. But his response to the worst public health crisis in a century is of a different order of magnitude. Historians of the future are going to rank him in this regard with Genghis Khan in Persia, King Leopold of Belgium in the Congo, Stalinís engineered famines in Ukraine, and Charles Trevelyanís supervision of the Great Famine in Ireland. Deliberately and for his own tawdry political purposes, he has failed utterly in his duty and north of 100,000 Americans already have died.
By Scorps at 23,Jun,20 08:17 other posts of Scorps 

This person, ANGEL1227 is a gotdamn moron, PERIOD!

Reader's discretion is strongly advised
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 08:33 other posts of dgraff 
Those numbers are all fudged in Pennsylvania the hospitalís are writing every death as a COVID-19 related death and I got that firsthand from a nurse at the good sameratln hospital in Lebanon County
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 10:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff, follow this reasoning. If there are over 100000 victims of covid-19 as reported, but, your nurse friend is right and only 1/3 are true covid-19 victims, THAT'S OVER 33000 DEATHS FROM THE PANDEMIC. I'M GOING TO INCLUDE YOU IN THE NEXT GROUP. CAREGIVERS PROVIDE VERY COMPASSIONATE CARE BUT THEY ARE USUALLY USELESS ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE, INCLUDING TRUE HAPPENINGS IN THE WORLD.

By phart at 23,Jun,20 16:10 other posts of phart 
yea a local fellow uncle had stage 4 liver cancer.Died in the hospital,somehow magicly he was positive for wuhan so his death certificate says that as cause of death. Hospital gets 13,700 bucks each time they mark that down.
Sad,fraud.Just Fraud.
By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 18:46 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart. You believe that?
By dgraff at 23,Jun,20 22:47 other posts of dgraff 
I believe that thatís exactly what I was told by my nurse friend donít get me started on the medical field my 93 year old father was hospitalized and on his hospital bill because I know a retired woman in the coding and billing department of a hospital she found he was billed 52 dollars for a nurse to administer a aspirin to him and he was billed for a home pregnancy test kit talk about the flea-sing of Americaís

By phart at 24,Jun,20 10:55 other posts of phart 
yes I do,the fellow I know is the 1 trying to get the death certificate fixed,his regular doctor did not do it,someone else wrote it out and it was magicly Covid.Imagine that,free money just for lieing on paper.
You have to understand,the common person does not have any way to protect themselves or family from this fraud.YOu can't even visit your family in the nursing home,you have no way of knowing what is going on right now with them.

By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 10:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
The author went a little overboard, but, numbers don't lie. Even if only half is attributed to Trumpo, that still makes him a mass murderer.
BTW, when are you going to learn to argue with facts and not insults? AS YOU SAID, "READER'S DISCRETION IS STRONGLY ADVICED," FOOL

By ANGEL1227 at 23,Jun,20 12:02 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Scorps, you spelled motron wrong---end of sarcasm

By phart at 22,Jun,20 09:18 other posts of phart 
I recently took a pole.
I found that 100% of the people were pissed when the tent fell on them.
By bella! at 22,Jun,20 09:20 other posts of bella! 

Now that's funny!

By huxley999 at 22,Jun,20 16:36 other posts of huxley999 
Like it! Reminds me of this one:

What are all the Poles doing in Russia?

Holding up the telephone wires!

Corny as hell!!
By bella! at 22,Jun,20 19:37 other posts of bella! 
Yep, that is a corny joke!

By huxley999 at 21,Jun,20 10:46 other posts of huxley999 
Rock against Racism and, a little later, Red Wedge formed a musical backdrop to my activism in the late 70s and 80s. Looks like an interesting project to view:

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By bella! at 21,Jun,20 13:35 other posts of bella! 
What have I missed with the first link? White Riot is a song by The Clash. Is there a documentary film being released in the next couple of days?

Also, is racism really a white problem?
By huxley999 at 21,Jun,20 14:28 other posts of huxley999 
I'm guessing the film maker used that name because of The Clash song, and it's wider connotations. This article explains it pretty well:

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The film is out, in a limited way, later this month and then there's a more general, cinematic release later in the year.

I'm not quite sure what you mean with your second question - I would, however, observe that (for me anyway) racism is a problem for everybody. If I've missed the point - feel free to correct me!
By bella! at 21,Jun,20 15:05 other posts of bella! 
Yes, I'm in agreement, racism is a problem for everybody and not specifically a "white problem".

The very first paragraph in the first link you provided reads; "We were trying to get people to understand racism as a white problem,Ē says Kate Webb, an early member of the Rock Against Racism movement, which emerged in 1976 in protest at the white supremacist attitudes of the then fast-growing National Front.

Maybe I missed the point of what I read.
By huxley999 at 21,Jun,20 15:11 other posts of huxley999 
I have to confess that I read that first paragraph, and let it pass without thinking about it as much as you have!

I guess (or hope) she meant that, as now, addressing racism takes effort from all of us. Back in the 70s the UK was openly racist, as I can attest, and getting a movement together that fought for equality was probably as problematic as it is now. The dominant majority (ie. white Brits) needed to get involved if real change was to happen.

I can also say that it was an exciting time to live through!
By bella! at 21,Jun,20 16:06 other posts of bella! 
Yes, the article speaks about an anti racism movement in 1976, I wasn't clear if that was the general feeling in 2020.

By Scorps at 22,Jun,20 11:21 other posts of Scorps 
After having read both of the provided links, I fail to understand the relevance to today, and there seems to me, to be a bit of conflating between two different topics. Are there major racial inequality issues in the U.K. as well as an uprising against your government? I'd might actually semi-agree with Kate Webb's assertions in 1976, but 44 years later, not! So, what is the point of these links? Are you just trying bring awareness to the soon to be released documentary film?
By huxley999 at 22,Jun,20 11:30 other posts of huxley999 
Yep to racial inequality issues (still) but you're right: mainly just to bring awareness.
By Scorps at 22,Jun,20 13:13 other posts of Scorps 
Cool, thanks! Maybe some of us will check it out.

Just curious, do you notice an obvious ebb and flow to those issues in your country, too? For example... Here in the United States, we ONLY have racial divisions and issues, ironically, every 4 years just before an upcoming election. It's been like this for some time, here, you could almost set your clock to it (figuratively). Have you noticed anything similar in the U.K.?
By huxley999 at 22,Jun,20 13:31 other posts of huxley999 
Hmmm, good question.

I would say that, anecdotally, the upsurges in racial tensions are NOT strongly linked to the electoral cycle over here. Like elsewhere, headline-grabbing incidents seem to be more of a catalyst. The Stephen Lawrence case springs to mind, as a fairly recent example. We also saw a spike in hate crimes after we voted to leave the EU - many feel that racists were emboldened to act upon their xenophobia after that referendum.

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By bella! at 22,Jun,20 15:50 other posts of bella! 
Really, every four years before an election? Am I that naive or forgetful, what happened in 2015/2016?
By CountryCouple54 at 22,Jun,20 16:48 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Shooting of Freddie Gray/ Baltimore 2015. Shooting of Mandir Bey/ St. Louis 2015. National Wildlife Refuge/ Oregon 2016. Donald Trump's rally/ Chicago 2016. Sacramento riot/ California State Capital 2016. Shooting of Alton Sterling/ widespread protests throughout the US 2016. Shooting of Sylville Smith/ Wisconsin 2016. Shooting of Keith Scott/ Charlotte 2016. 1 month later Trump took office.
By Scorps at 22,Jun,20 19:08 other posts of Scorps 
Thank you CC for the response to/for Bella.

I would also note that many of those incidents had ZERO proof of a racial component, other than the people involved simply being of different nationalities.

I wish I could take credit for a thought I recently heard, but I cannot. Perhaps it would be in the best interest for everyone, to send black officers to crimes where other blacks are involved. If a white officer encounters a crime being committed, i.e. during a traffic stop, immediately call in and request a black officer to respond to deal with the individual. I mean afterall, in order to minimize any sexual misconduct issues, nationwide, female officers are called in to handle female suspects. So, why not consider this? I absolutely do not believe there is such a massive problem with race relations between whites and blacks OR the Police and blacks. But if that possible solution would help stop some of this bullshit from being circulated within our society, then find a way to make it so!
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One other note that has been discussed before, worth noting again.

There IS and will ALWAYS be a few shitheads in ANY given segment in our society. Whether it be the Police, Doctors/Nurses, Clergy, Teachers, Firefighters, Blacks, Whites, Asians, etc. There is NO absolute perfect grouping of people, anywhere. To believe that it's possible to weed out all these types of individuals from society is just foolish. Just as it's quite ignorant to label ALL blacks as miscreants and criminals it's equally as ignorant to suggest that all white people and or police are bad or "inherently racist".

By ANGEL1227 at 22,Jun,20 18:31 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Wish I was at Talladega tonight. The Geico 500 will run

By kebmo at 21,Jun,20 01:28 other posts of kebmo 
I just saw on the news that RVs and trailers are selling like crazy in North America because of Covid. People can't fly anywhere so they're buying these things for their family's summer vacation.

If you have an RV or trailer that you were thinking of selling, now's the time!
By Andthisisme at 21,Jun,20 04:58 other posts of Andthisisme 
RVs would not work in the UK but I saw this A while ago and I really want this Ďtoyí

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By bella! at 21,Jun,20 06:41 other posts of bella! 
I'm not aware of increased sales, in fact, the state park down the road is not yet open. I'm not sure where people can vacation in Michigan unless they're moving from town to town wherever a Walmart is located. Overnight parking is okay, although there is no electrical hookup.

What I have read is that some animals adopted during this quarantine are now being returned to the various shelters. It pisses me off that people consider animals as an "accessory" and a disposable item.
By CountryCouple54 at 21,Jun,20 06:49 other posts of CountryCouple54 
It's true Ms bella. In Florida the sales of boats, RV's, above ground pools, and gym equipment are at an all time high. They say you can't even find a pool or gym equipment online. And if you do, it won't ship until July or August. They have been running commercials saying RVing and boating as the ultimate way for you and your family to have fun while social distancing.
By bella! at 21,Jun,20 07:27 other posts of bella! 
Oh, I understand boats, pools, gym equipment, etc, it's the RV's and in my head, I'm going to include everything related to camping, tents, pop-ups, fifth wheels, trailers all the way up to luxurious motor home, the toy that caught the attention of Andthisisme. Where can people go with their new purchase? Certainly nowhere in Michigan, at this time.

Funny, now that I think about it, there is an exclusive and independent RV park down the road. I'm not sure how they were able to operate outside of the quarantine mandate.
By ANGEL1227 at 21,Jun,20 07:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 
If the state parks are open, msny have campgrounds. Some are full hookup but most are water and electricity. Here, in Florida, we have an overabundance of public and private campgrounds.
By phart at 21,Jun,20 09:12 other posts of phart 
I know that a freind with a 5 year old camper was offered 1 hell of a trade in price.75% of original cost, because of the mulitable bedding arrangement it has.He just ask about changing the tub-shower out to a shower because of his knees and trading would actually come out a few 100 cheaper for him to do.
By bella! at 21,Jun,20 13:06 other posts of bella! 
I'm curious, what kind of "multiple bedding arrangements" does a camper offer ?
By phart at 21,Jun,20 13:20 other posts of phart 
this 1 has 2 bunks for kids, a master bedroom,the couch makes a bed,the kitchen seating makes a bed.sleeps 8
By bella! at 21,Jun,20 13:30 other posts of bella! 
Thank you!

By CountryCouple54 at 18,Jun,20 21:57 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Again, Florida shows what idiots we are. Way to go Governor DeSantos. You're a fucking idiot. You said we were good. You opened everything at once. Now 5 days later your shutting shit back down. And you're blaming it on migrant workers not getting tested. You're a fucking dumb shit , lying politician. You are the one that didn't make free testing available for 3 months. You piece of shit, enjoy your office because you won't be re elected. You are by far the dumbest mother fucker we have ever had for a Governor. Now you're gonna open schools in August. Really bitch. 8,000 new cases of Covid19 every week for the last 3 weeks. Admit you fucked up and are killing Floridian's. 32,000 new cases a month. But it's time for everything, including schools to open. Dumb shit mother fucker.
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 06:55 other posts of dgraff 
I betcha angel votes for him again personally I donít trust any politician I believe this whole virus thing was a plot by all the governmentís in the world to cut down the population think about it itís more cost effective than a war and it feeds on the old and weak what better way then to create a virus in a laboratory and accidentally let it escape just a theory of mine
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 08:02 other posts of ANGEL1227 
This fucking joke of a governor has his lips glued to Trumpo's ass. He has followed him like a lost sheep. He's a Republican. In Florida it's hard to get a Democrat to win the governorship. In any case ivoted against him. Andrew Guillum would have been so much better. He's so bad he's starting to make Rick Scott look good. As far as your theory is concerned, it's good we now have lots of toilet paper.
I was surprised a conservative CC54 rag on DeSantis
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 12:27 other posts of dgraff 
I think you trust your government way to much candy I do not
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 16:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
That is too simplistic. We are supposed to trust the government to have our backs. We are also in charge of getting the best government possible and if we make a mistake, to change it. I work (not for long, I'm retiring), I cook, I buy my groceries, I take care of my family. That is not trusting the government. My expectation is for my president to not get on a pissing war with other countries. I want to know my government helps those out of work. I want my government not to close down the department of pandemics. Well, by any measure and by anyone, our current president is not competent to be president. Comes November let's fix that
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 18:10 other posts of dgraff 
In god we trust end of story

By bella! at 19,Jun,20 08:18 other posts of bella! 
Florida's Governor is Republican, do you really believe that she votes Republican?
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 11:36 other posts of dgraff 
No I was just pulling her chain

By bella! at 19,Jun,20 08:09 other posts of bella! 
Florida is shutting down? Everything? When did Florida officially open and did it open in phases?

Michiganders were pissed at Whitmer for extending the Stay Home order through June 12, an almost 3 months quarantine. I'm not sure local government is handling things appropriately, though. In April, our local government went ahead with the Easter Egg hunt, two weeks ago, they brought back "Music in the Park" on our boardwalk. Feed me peanuts and call me Dumbo but when I go to an outdoor music venue that does not have assigned seating, I want to get as close as possible to the front. What I'm trying to say is that there is absolutely no social distancing. This summer feature is an annual event and draws so many young people, teens and tweens, etc. Yesterday was the third concert so that's a reflection that our city opened prior to the Governor's June 12 date. What is odd though is that the July 4th fireworks and celebration was canceled as well as some upcoming fishing events that draw fishermen from all over. These events have been annual events for more years than I've lived here.
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 11:38 other posts of dgraff 
They jumped the gun now they regret it
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Whoo hoo Pennsylvania is among the top 3 states with the least amount of virus cases our numbers have steadily fallen in the last three weeks

By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 12:05 other posts of ANGEL1227 
DeSantis pushed the locals to open up. He wanted Trump's adulation and he got the RNC in Jacksonville. The covid cases are going through the roof.
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 12:31 other posts of dgraff 
I see that and Iím sorry to hear that I think itís the good mountain way of life bringing our numbers down and the fresh air
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 16:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Mountain air and water is healthy. Few of us have the chance or the fortitude to live on a mountain.
By phart at 19,Jun,20 18:23 other posts of phart 
Just remember,while you are hiding from the big mean virus,it can come thru the door to you on a cardboard box,such as a pizza you ordered,it can find it's way to you,regardless if the world stops turning or not.
There are 2 women in Antartica that are stuck there because no ships can come get them due to the pandemic,even they might get it,if and when they are able to go home at a later time.
Use some common sense and get on with your life,or at least don't get in other peoples way as they are trying to.Alot of us understand we are unable to live forever,and any time we sit idle in the basement with a flashlight shivering in fear of a virus,is time we can't get back
By ANGEL1227 at 20,Jun,20 07:37 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, yes, I am hiding from the virus. I wear a mask when I go shopping, use disinfectant when I leave a store, and I don't order take out. Right now only Gerome goes shopping (I love washing him after he strips outside by back door. I know he doesn't touch anything with his cock, but I have to be safe )
I'm not standing in anyone's way if they want to be irresponsible dumb-asses. But, I have the right, the duty even, to point out that their conduct will be responsible for more deaths and costs to the public health system. I know you have simple understanding of your actions. The rest of us that actually care, think Trumpo is only thinking of himself and his re-election.

By aoneeyedmonster at 19,Jun,20 21:51 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Florida has fucked up big time, closed down too late and opened up too early.
By ANGEL1227 at 20,Jun,20 07:39 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It's Florida. Nuff-said.

By 1RonG at 20,Jun,20 12:26 other posts of 1RonG 
Not sure where your figures are coming from? Or maybe the WHO getting their figures from? From this side of the pond , Florida appears to be doing well...look up only registered users can see external links . These are the official figures ( supposedly ). Florida only has 89700 cases since the very beginning and 3100 deaths..that equates to 145 per million population ( approx ) , then consider Massachusets is 1130 deaths per million and even Illinois is 519 per million and lets not talk about New York and New Jersey lol
I'm mot sure Florida is as bad as you think but then again I'm not in the US ...
By ANGEL1227 at 21,Jun,20 07:53 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Florida is doing very well. What's 3100 deaths. We shoot more blacks in a six months period. Besides, they were probably old and not needed

By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 23:30 other posts of dgraff 
So listen to this if you think my government conspiracy theory is crazy concerning the corona virus so a owner of one of the only surviving textile plant in Pennsylvania told and showed me a government federal not state work order for unlimited amounts of face masks and vinyl protection suits the date on the work order was September 9th 2019 and the parts manager at the ford motor company told me he was ordered to order duct work and plastic sheeting so they could build respirators and face shields in October of 2019 my question is if this virus escaped in China in December 2019 then why is our government ordering stuff to combat the virus way back before it started in December 2019 I smell a government rat
By kebmo at 20,Jun,20 01:27 other posts of kebmo 
Wouldn't it be convenient to the current administration if a shitload of old Democrat voters all died? Oh and look at how the black Democrat voters are dying in amazingly large numbers. Both groups are a drain on the Federal coffers, health care, police and jails to name a few.
So convenient...
By dgraff at 20,Jun,20 06:30 other posts of dgraff 
Thatís the way Iím thinking
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Something does not add up
By ANGEL1227 at 20,Jun,20 07:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Production was to sell to other countries. Trump's cronies love making money, but, your friend didn't tell you where the product went (China)
By dgraff at 20,Jun,20 08:38 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah but the dates donít match they started making supplies for something that had not happened yet a whole 3 months before it arose
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Kinda fishy donít ya think
By ANGEL1227 at 20,Jun,20 09:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You are right. The rest of the world is wrong. You are smart. Yes, you are.
By dgraff at 20,Jun,20 10:53 other posts of dgraff 
Iím not a follower Iím a leader you might believe everything your government tells you or fallow the rest of the world but no maíam count me out

By veryshyguy at 19,Jun,20 17:37 other posts of veryshyguy 
One hell of songwriter! He will be missed...

only registered users can see external links

By dgraff at 18,Jun,20 07:22 other posts of dgraff 
blacks and whites up rising white hate groups forming in flocks police now afraid to do their job itís Charles mansions dream this is what he tried to start 50 some years ago itís going to turn in to a race war or worse a civil war
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A white police officer was shot at by a black man in reading Pennsylvania narrowly missing him the police officer got back in his patrol car drove to the police station and parked the police car got in his truck and drove home he later told the press its not worth it any more
By ANGEL1227 at 18,Jun,20 08:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Chicken shit. What did he think the job was going to be?
By phart at 18,Jun,20 09:10 other posts of phart 
Not really chicken shit but moreso how can he do his job when anything he does to deter a crime is considered excessive force? He can't shoot back,he can't taz. I guess he could have offered the black man some more bullets? Perhaps some training on how to shoot a cop and not hit the bullet proof vest?
I mean really? Chicken shit? I would like to see your health improve to a point we could put YOU out there trying to do the job for a day or 2 and see if you come back feeling the same.
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 17:12 other posts of ANGEL1227 
But that's just it. A cop gets paid to serve in a dangerous and unstable work environment. I don't want to do it. Neither does most people. That's why we give him a firearm and other things, like a baton. We give him extraordinary power over us. All we ask is for him to use some discretion. He has the power to kill me for the slightest provocation. As a citizen, I expect him to be firm, fearless, but compassionate.

By phart at 18,Jun,20 09:05 other posts of phart 
It is sad times.And nothing is being accomplished that actually helps the issues at hand.Removing a statue,changing a law,etc,is not fixing the issues of over a 100 years of not utilizing the 14th admendment.
Equal rights have been in place.
I don't know what the "peaceful" liberals that have been anti gun for so long are going to do when they need police protection they have been so adament was all we needed just a short time ago.It is not there any more.
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 17:16 other posts of ANGEL1227 
We do want a well armed police department. We also like for cops to go through better veting. Right now a cop gets fired in this municipality for conduct unbecoming a cop and he can cross the street to the next municipality, apply for a cop job, and get it. There has to be a national register for bad cops.

By dgraff at 16,Jun,20 19:46 other posts of dgraff 
China is not our problem
China is not our problem
China is not our problem
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Says smoking Joe Biden puff puff pass
China is our problem in so many ways
By phart at 17,Jun,20 10:29 other posts of phart 
Poor fellow needs to go home and sit on the porch in a rocking chair with the dog resting by his side and retire.
Along with Peelowsee.
By huxley999 at 17,Jun,20 14:13 other posts of huxley999 
Interesting - at what age do you think someone should retire from frontline politics then, phart?
By dgraff at 17,Jun,20 17:46 other posts of dgraff 
I believe 65 is retiring age for any government position letís face it there in the business of thinking and age compromises the ability to think clearly and quickly
By ANGEL1227 at 18,Jun,20 20:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You said your Dad was in his 90's and sharp as a tack
By dgraff at 18,Jun,20 21:40 other posts of dgraff 
He didnít work in a government position either

By phart at 18,Jun,20 09:12 other posts of phart 
Dgraff explains it well but there should be a threshhold of 70.
It is not a hard manual labor job requireing a strong body,but a healthy mind is important.
By huxley999 at 18,Jun,20 12:47 other posts of huxley999 
Looks like you may have to vote for Gloria La Riva for President then.

Or do you prefer Rocky de la Fuente?

Phil Collins would be my pick - but only because there's something in the air tonight!
By dgraff at 18,Jun,20 21:44 other posts of dgraff 
I personally would vote for Dwayne the rock Johnson he kicks ass

By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 16:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Churchill got elected to Prime Minister in 1940, at the start of WWII. He served for five years and got Alec again 5 yrs later

By dgraff at 17,Jun,20 17:52 other posts of dgraff 
Oh phart Palouse has been a pain in the ASS for years now she has a big mouth and her smart ass comments she reminds me of someone on this site
By Jamie at 17,Jun,20 18:14 other posts of Jamie 
I'm almost 70 and still working
By dgraff at 17,Jun,20 18:26 other posts of dgraff 
I understand Jamie my father was 93 and still working but after he passed away and I was going through his stuff I started finding notes with directions to his work and his barber shop and even his girlfriend house he was very good at hiding his feebleness I never even seen the signs so you couldnít have that in a government position
By ANGEL1227 at 17,Jun,20 19:47 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Of course. Everyone but me.
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Everyone but me needs to wear a mask or observe social distancing. Iím too proud, manly, macho, and Trumpist, to do so. Who the fuck cares about that. This is like getting a polio vaccine shot. I suppose when they find one for this pandemic youíll decline too. Every time a thread comes up about lifestyles, you jump into it showing us how ďMACHO ď man you are. This is a safety thing. I you donít care about yourself, think about other people
By dgraff at 17,Jun,20 20:01 other posts of dgraff 
Every one but you what ?????

By dgraff at 18,Jun,20 09:43 other posts of dgraff 
How long do you want me to live in this crazy screwed up world if I died tomorrow I would have no remorse and wouldnít have changed a thing Iím from simpler times and I feel the world has passed me by itís no longer a joy to live dying is easy itís living thatís hard
By ANGEL1227 at 18,Jun,20 13:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I'm sorry for you. Even the last second of your life, as you take your last breath, should be celebrated with some joy. I know life is rough and sometimes the rest of passing is a welcomed future event. But, to give up so much at your age is a travesty to God's obvious intent.

By bella! at 17,Jun,20 22:13 other posts of bella! 
At 93 your pops was still worked AND had a girlfriend? God bless him!
By dgraff at 17,Jun,20 22:15 other posts of dgraff 
Yep and still driving
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One time I ask him how old you are when youíre junk quits working and he told me that I would have to ask someone older than he is
By phart at 18,Jun,20 09:15 other posts of phart 
Yep,I got a similar response from my dad for that question.
Old men cover their feeblness well. I am starting to notice things my dad misses and I am keeping a eye on him.So far just simple shit.

By kebmo at 17,Jun,20 03:16 other posts of kebmo 
The Canada / US border is closed to nonessential traffic for yet another month until July 21st.
The longest undefended border in the world has been closed since March.
only registered users can see external links
By bella! at 17,Jun,20 21:25 other posts of bella! 
So is traveling to Walmart considered essential or nonessential?

I can't wait until the shelves are stocked with the toilet paper I want!
By kebmo at 17,Jun,20 23:02 other posts of kebmo 
I'm a Walmart customer and my store has been fully stocked for a month and a half. It sure was a bit sparse for a couple of weeks though. I just checked my 12 pack of super size rolls of Charmin. It's made in the USA!!

By Smoothmann at 17,Jun,20 23:11 other posts of Smoothmann 
Toilet paper was gone off the shelves in most stores in NJ.The last 3 weeks it is on the shelves too buy!
By dgraff at 18,Jun,20 05:44 other posts of dgraff 
Same thing in Pennsylvania a bunch of hoarders
By ANGEL1227 at 18,Jun,20 09:00 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Well, maybe in your area they are full of shit and thereís a run on paper
By phart at 18,Jun,20 09:07 other posts of phart 
The paper goods and cleaning supplies are still in short supply at the local wallworld.Meat counters are filling back up to a point but Spam and potted meat are scarce.
Hamburger and steaks have went thru the roof price wise.
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 07:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Prices have gone up. I refuse to eat Spam and potted meat
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 11:35 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha my name is Sam and Sam I am I like to eat green eggs and spam
By ANGEL1227 at 19,Jun,20 12:01 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By bella! at 18,Jun,20 22:00 other posts of bella! 
A relatively new-ish member has posted a number of dick pics as well as facial pics. The other day he sends me a private picture of his dick and a Post-It note that reflects his screen nickname. Bottom line, he asks me to verify him.

I respond back with, "I will verify you however, since you've posted facial pics, I want you to say "Hi bella!" date the sign and hold it against your chest, while showing your face. I'm not asking you to show anything other than your face and sign."

I haven't heard from him since!
By dgraff at 19,Jun,20 06:45 other posts of dgraff 
Some people are strange now what was so hard about what you ask of him
By bella! at 19,Jun,20 07:27 other posts of bella! 
He has a 3 part nickname and one of the components is spelled in a unique way. I was surprised to see the nickname spelled "wrong" when he presented his verification picture to me, but hey ho, maybe he didn't recognize that he had spelled his nickname in a creative aka "wrong" way months ago when he joined.

Regardless, I told him what I would want in order to verify him and that was 3 plus days ago.......

By dgraff at 16,Jun,20 05:45 other posts of dgraff 
Anyone else having trouble navigating to the main page
By BirdDog at 16,Jun,20 07:14 other posts of BirdDog 
Yep, earlier, but seems it's fixed now.
By dgraff at 16,Jun,20 07:18 other posts of dgraff 
Yep 👍

By bella! at 16,Jun,20 07:18 other posts of bella! 
Actually, I've had ongoing issues accessing the site for approximately 12 hours.

I've been getting the following message whether I enter showyourdick.org , showyourcunt.org OR showitoff.org , the only thing that changes in the error message I receive is the website name I enter;

This page isn't working
Showitoff.org is currently unable to handle this request
By dgraff at 16,Jun,20 07:22 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha you need to find a back door in if thereís a back door Iím good at finding it
By bella! at 16,Jun,20 07:37 other posts of bella! 
Uh, I bet you've found your way into a number of "backdoors" over the years.

Just an f.y.i., admin is aware of an issue and he's trying to determine the cause. Maybe the problem has been resolved or maybe, not.
By footluvrsgirl at 16,Jun,20 07:59 other posts of footluvrsgirl 
I had issues as well.. starting yesterday.
By bella! at 16,Jun,20 08:05 other posts of bella! 
Me, too. For me, the problems began a about 12 to 14 hours ago, in the late afternoon. I thought that it might be because of the recent merge between Sprint and AT&T or being so close to Canada, sometimes there are connectivity issues.
By ANGEL1227 at 16,Jun,20 09:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
T-Mobil was down all afternoon for large areas of the country. Iím with ATT but I couldnít even access the main page
By bella! at 16,Jun,20 10:15 other posts of bella! 
I don't believe that our various service providers are the issue. The problem seems to be an issue that admin is aware of and is working to resolve.
By HotFuckerBoy at 16,Jun,20 16:34 other posts of HotFuckerBoy 
Troubles here too. Seems the showitoff main page won't load, but the others do.
By Jamie at 16,Jun,20 16:59 other posts of Jamie 
Yesterday and today /mtiib6ma8ea6pic.html

By Smoothmann at 16,Jun,20 17:36 other posts of Smoothmann 
I could not get on very early this morning.As of 5PM the site is working for me!

By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 21:51 other posts of dgraff 
So with all the craziness going on in the world letís have a happy memory so with that being said I would like to know what every bodies first car was mine was a 1960 Chevy impala it was a one owner in prestige shape
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 21:56 other posts of bella! 
A '74 Firebird that was not pristine.
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 22:01 other posts of dgraff 
I figured you to have a muscle car I like fire birds to I had a 68 HO fire bird and a 78 trans am

By FagButt at 14,Jun,20 07:32 other posts of FagButt 
Mine was a 64 EL Camino. It was solo condition and cost me a $1000 to buy. Yes I wish I still had it but now I have a 67 GTO that I restored myself.
By bella! at 14,Jun,20 13:42 other posts of bella! 
I want to see it, FagButt!
By FagButt at 14,Jun,20 13:59 other posts of FagButt 
Iíll send you a pic!

By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 18:56 other posts of dgraff 
Nice liked the EL Camino and your 67 goat

By huxley999 at 13,Jun,20 05:58 other posts of huxley999 
1972 Red Vauxhall Viva - a real piece of shit but it got me started!
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 06:45 other posts of dgraff 
I canít say I ever had one of those but I love all cars of the 60s and 70s

By phart at 13,Jun,20 10:43 other posts of phart 
looks like the American Chevettes grandpa.Functional but,kinda on the blah side looks wise.
Looks like the model is still a current 1 though.

By Smoothmann at 13,Jun,20 06:10 other posts of Smoothmann 
My first car was a 68 Pontiac Tempest.It looked just like the GTO but with a chrome front bumper.My 2nd car was 68 Mustang coupe with 289 V8.I wish that I still had both cars!
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 06:43 other posts of dgraff 
Nice I had a tempest once wasnít ever much of a mustang fan
By Smoothmann at 13,Jun,20 07:09 other posts of Smoothmann 
They were both good cars.I never had any problems with either of them.
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 07:23 other posts of dgraff 
Oh yeah i agree I wasnít a mustang fan because every body and there brother had one
By phart at 13,Jun,20 10:45 other posts of phart 
Oh my,I guess my southerness will show,first thing I drove for a while till I got my own,a 77 chevy pickup,3 on the tree,6 banger.burnt a valve for the second time at 360,000 miles and dad upgraded.He wanted to refurbish it but you can hear the damn thing rusting at night when it is real quite.

My taste in cars is weird,I would like to be able to afford to import a Russian Chaika doctors model from about 1959 or so.
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 11:32 other posts of dgraff 
Loved my old Chevy trucks to
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I had a 1970 Chevy panel truck
By Smoothmann at 13,Jun,20 12:05 other posts of Smoothmann 
I had a 1970 Chevy C10 with a 307 2 barrel carb and a 3 on the tree and it ran great!Rust devils ate it up body wise!

By Scorps at 13,Jun,20 11:12 other posts of Scorps 
My G'ma gave me her original owned and ordered 68 GTO it was weathered (paint faded, no rust) had like 160,000 miles on it, but it was solid. Loved it, but was so irresponsible with it. Those were the days though. I sure as hell kick myself for ever getting rid of it, like who knew...
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 11:30 other posts of dgraff 
Nice Iím a big Pontiac fan 60s and 70s of course
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The 389 try power ruled

By bella! at 13,Jun,20 13:14 other posts of bella! 
The cars from the 60's were REAL CARS!
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 07:14 other posts of dgraff 
I agree 100 percent

By kebmo at 13,Jun,20 14:21 other posts of kebmo 
Mine was a '74 yellow Ford Station Wagon. It got me across Canada and back. Great car but it sure guzzled up the gas!
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 07:17 other posts of dgraff 
Nice I never had a yellow car but it would go great with the black T shirt and black jeans I wear
By Jamie at 14,Jun,20 07:26 other posts of Jamie 
Mine was like this one /4a9u5gy3yzwepic.html
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 07:34 other posts of dgraff 
Oh wow very nice Jamie love it no computer and only one vacuum hose
By Jamie at 14,Jun,20 07:49 other posts of Jamie 
I have a 1950 pickup that I'm trying to get it in place
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 08:09 other posts of dgraff 
Great make sure you send me pictures of it when your done with it

By bella! at 14,Jun,20 13:41 other posts of bella! 
That's when a car was a car! Look at that BÄAST, what a beauty!

By kebmo at 14,Jun,20 23:00 other posts of kebmo 
dgraff, mine also had the sexy wood panels. only registered users can see external links
By dgraff at 15,Jun,20 07:14 other posts of dgraff 
I remember them well kebmo I bet it had either the 351m or the 400 modified a true gas guzzler

By ANGEL1227 at 14,Jun,20 12:19 other posts of ANGEL1227 
1958 VW bug. Barely went forward but I was the proud owner.
By footluvrsgirl at 14,Jun,20 14:36 other posts of footluvrsgirl 
My first car was a 76 Trans Am.. 😍.. raced any dude willing to take me on.. god that was fun!
By bella! at 14,Jun,20 14:40 other posts of bella! 
Woo hoo! You, go girl!

By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 19:01 other posts of dgraff 
Thata girl I know I love my trans Am

By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 19:06 other posts of dgraff 
A 58 VW bug those were great in the snow but being air cooled they didnít have much of a heater you could barely keep the windshield defrosted
By ANGEL1227 at 14,Jun,20 19:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Or the feet warm. Lucky winters in Miami are short and mild
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 20:05 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha In Pennsylvania we dipped down in the high 40s last night

By kebmo at 14,Jun,20 23:05 other posts of kebmo 
Winters in Miami Angel? An oxymoron?
By ANGEL1227 at 15,Jun,20 07:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By CountryCouple54 at 15,Jun,20 00:24 other posts of CountryCouple54 

By phart at 13,Jun,20 10:39 other posts of phart 
I never called you stupid but when i ask you to spell Orange and you ask,the fruit or the color,It caught me off guard.
By dgraff at 13,Jun,20 11:37 other posts of dgraff 
I mustíve missed something but it sounds like a delightful conversation

By huxley999 at 13,Jun,20 12:02 other posts of huxley999 
Just because it's interesting (to me anyway!):

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By phart at 13,Jun,20 15:04 other posts of phart 
I had no where else to post the joke.

By bella! at 14,Jun,20 08:58 other posts of bella! 
Very interesting and I had no idea that there was Phrase Finder on the internet. Silly me, I don't know why it never occurred for me to look, everything else can be found there.

By kebmo at 14,Jun,20 01:17 other posts of kebmo 
I'm eating my cordon bleu in my blue jeans. /forum/search.php?qq=jokes
By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 08:12 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha wait who blew who

By bella! at 14,Jun,20 17:24 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, phart, is this a joke, if it is, is this THE JOKE, because if it is, I don't understand.
By phart at 14,Jun,20 21:09 other posts of phart 
It was a meme I read somewhere on the net and I just wanted to share it.Kinda funny.

By Zorilla at 14,Jun,20 16:53 other posts of Zorilla 
which ever feels the best
By bella! at 14,Jun,20 17:21 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, what?

By Zorilla at 14,Jun,20 11:15 other posts of Zorilla 
now is the time we cum together
By bella! at 14,Jun,20 13:47 other posts of bella! 
Cum together or come together?
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By bella! at 12,Jun,20 10:52 other posts of bella! 
I read an interesting blog authored by a new SYD member. He is offering to assist all you gentlemen in jerking off. Do you fellas really need a jerk off coach to help you out? Or is it possible that the straight guy gets off on men? Just curious.

This is his blog:

"This is my sub Reddit - I help buds jerk off and feed them what they like 2 jerk 2, celebs porn and my own girls, some buds like 2 show off and b posted but most buds like 2 b private - if u have a second screen u can use 2 show u r jerkin over what I feed and can send lots of vids in return I can feed u lots 😉 Add hertsgirls on kik and we can have lots of fun"
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By huxley999 at 12,Jun,20 12:16 other posts of huxley999 
I'm probably opening myself up to jibes about grammar snobbery but I'll make 2 observations:

I have 40+ years experience in jerking off, so my need for "coaching" is questionable.

If I were to use a jerking coach: I'd prefer mine not to use the number 2 to mean both "to" and "too", and to type "you" and "are" as proper words.

But hey, whatever lights your candle. It takes all sorts!!
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 13:13 other posts of bella! 
Hey, if you felt that you needed a more articulate jerking coach, by all means, get the fella that ticks all of the boxes!

I just found his blog interesting when he offers to be the coach and help by feeding "you" with things "you" like. Honestly, I didn't think that jerking, whackin' off, chokin' the chicken, burpin' the worm, etc, needed the assistance of a coach.
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 13:55 other posts of dgraff 
Well hey if heís feeding me I will have a pastrami on rye with cheddar cheese melted through it and a side dish of aujus dipping sauce
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 18:35 other posts of bella! 
You fill up you 6'3" frame with things that would make the average person gain weight just reading about!
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 18:46 other posts of dgraff 
I canít help it I love food

By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 19:48 other posts of dgraff 
Hey Bella you shortened me by three inches Iím 6 ft 6 inches
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 22:01 other posts of bella! 
I am so sorry, that was not intentional! Let me correct my post,

dgraff, YOU fill your 6'6" frame with things that would make the average person gain weight just reading about! :x

Approximately, how much do you spend on groceries and/or eating out on a monthly basis?
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 22:07 other posts of dgraff 
Since this virus I mainly cook at home I use the grill and the smoker a lot Iím not quite sure what the cost is because I only go to the store when I absolutely need to then I get in get whatever I need and get the hell out as quickly as I can
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 22:09 other posts of bella! 
What was your budget three months ago?

By HotFuckerBoy at 12,Jun,20 19:28 other posts of HotFuckerBoy 
Oh my god, itís painful to read, it's like trying to decipher a fucking code! Stop with the old school text style, it's not "cool" anymore. Most times your word option pops up before you're finished typing.

And, no, I've never needed coaching on how to pleasure myself
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 22:07 other posts of bella! 
Thank you for your response, HFB! I was actually hoping that someone, I can't imagine who it could be, would respond and say "yes, I've thought about a coach, however didn't know where to start." Me thinks a "coach" is nothing more than a guy who gets off watching other guys get off.

By bella! at 12,Jun,20 22:19 other posts of bella! 
A dick's gonna do what a dick's gonna do......

If you're horny or you awake with a raging erection you have three ways to address the matter.

ē Ignore the urge OR erection and go about your day.
ē If you have a partner, hopefully they are horny, too.
ē Your partner is not interested OR you are alone, you take care of business.

There's nothing in these scenarios lead me to believe that you need to call Coach Ralph for game strategy.

By 2nice at 12,Jun,20 20:41 other posts of 2nice 
Reading that gave me a headache, thanks bella.
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 21:55 other posts of bella! 
Sorry that you have a headache.... I suspect that you are a man who knows how to get the job done without a personal coach.
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 22:40 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha Iíve heard of a pregnancy coach but a Jack off coach Iíve always went by the saying if ití feels good do it
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 23:38 other posts of bella! 
Often the fellas are the husband, boyfriend or partner and I THINK they are called a BIRTHING coach.

Seems to me a pregnancy coach might have different responsibilities. No, buddy, a little to the left! Buddy, that's the wrong hole! Lady, I knew this was bound to happen, ya gotta lift your ass higher! No, bud, if your worm didn't burp, don't pull out!

By bigg at 13,Jun,20 15:06 other posts of bigg 
how about a tasty olive?
By bella! at 13,Jun,20 15:21 other posts of bella! 
Green olives in salads and martinis, YUM! Black olives and feta cheese in Greek salad, YUM!

By ANGEL1227 at 14,Jun,20 12:36 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Maybe Iíve led a sheltered life , but every guy Iíve asked about his first foray into Sex , they all say pretty much the same. After they get visited by THE CUM angel, itís natural to try to make it cum again. I think itís a natural reaction. A coach? Ridiculous.

By phart at 12,Jun,20 15:08 other posts of phart 
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Sad,Even BLM donors can't be sure of where their money is going
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 18:30 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha it figures a year or two ago When the hurricanes ripped up Florida and Puerto rica and a month before Texas I donated 1000.00 to help our fellow Texans and 1000.00 to help the good people of Florida I donated through the Red Cross under the name of Graffs Garage I certainly hope the money went were it was supposed to go
By phart at 13,Jun,20 14:48 other posts of phart 
And check this out! Look what BLMs founder supports!
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By dgraff at 14,Jun,20 08:58 other posts of dgraff 
It figures and then yet he looks just like sadom Husain

By phart at 13,Jun,20 12:13 other posts of phart 
IF there are any monuments to Chaz,I want them down NOW!
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6 city blocks in 2020, or several states in the 1860's,what is the difference?

By phart at 10,Jun,20 22:24 other posts of phart 
Has it crossed anyone's mind that perhaps the democrats are using Mr Floyd's murder to thier political advantage? Is it not possiable that the democrats and liberal minded folks like that asshole Soro's are paying people to stir up shit to further divide the already weak country?Divide and conquer is a old tactic.
In short,the democrats are performing election interference and using the black populations fear of cops as a tool to interfer.Just like a chef uses a spoon or a mechanic uses a wrench.
If it could be proven,would the black population be offended by the fact they were used as a people for someone elses gains?
By dgraff at 11,Jun,20 06:52 other posts of dgraff 
Heís 6 feet under now letís let it rest Iím sick of hearing about him by now
May his soul rest in - - - -

By aoneeyedmonster at 11,Jun,20 09:24 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
of course they are that's the political way

By ANGEL1227 at 11,Jun,20 09:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Did it cross yours this was staged by republicans to get the electorate off of the pandemic? It backfired on them, but Mitch McConnell practically admitted it. And lets not forget that "law and order" walk down to the church.
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BTW,Phart,if Soros is an asshole id like to be one just like him. Money and smarts and running rings around people like you
By phart at 11,Jun,20 14:56 other posts of phart 
bank rupting countrys to create personal wealth,oh what a role model he is.Read about his thoughts regardling family.HE HATES familys. He is loving the pandemic because of the fact young people were unable to visit their elderly family members. Thinks they will be easier to influence and change if not exsposed to older people. Read about it by using google.
Soros is a evil hearted man.

By kebmo at 11,Jun,20 15:40 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, Blacks are PISSED OFF and pissed off people vote. In this case they are Democrat voters so why wouldn't the Biden camp open it's arms wide and welcome them into their fold?
Absolutely, the Democrats will benefit from this and they will do what they can to garner all the votes they can from this situation. Why wouldn't they?
Just to be clear, the Democrats are not trying to divide your country, that task has already been successfully accomplished by your sitting president.
By huxley999 at 11,Jun,20 16:57 other posts of huxley999 
Did you remember to use Google to see how naughty Soros is before replying to phart, kebmo!?

I'm smiling at phart suddenly realising that most politicians are opportunists, and will make the most of any situation to further their aims. Like .. who would think ANY politician would do that?

Again, of course, that doesn't address the substantive issue: why are blacks pissed off, and what does society do about it?

I've never really believed in the widespread existence of bots, or people paid to post nonsense on the Internet, in an attempt to subvert democracy. Phart is actually making me reconsider! Perhaps he's in the pay of a foreign, anti-Western power and his ramblings actually are part of a brilliant, Machiavellian plot to rob us all of our freedom and enslave us. Just a theory!
By kebmo at 11,Jun,20 17:05 other posts of kebmo 
No I didn't Google Soros but I didn't forget either. I've never heard of him / her.
By phart at 11,Jun,20 21:50 other posts of phart 
Do take a moment to read about him.Depending on the source you read as to what you will find.He is just not a good role model.Hard youth,granted,but chose a bad path.
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By phart at 11,Jun,20 21:54 other posts of phart 
You mean to tell me that I could get paid for trying to explain another side to a story that some people just absolutly refuse to acknowledge? Where is my check????? Everything,every story ,every problem,is like a peice of paper, it has 2 sides. To lean towards the liberal side 99.9999999 % of the time,is a mistake.

By kebmo at 12,Jun,20 01:03 other posts of kebmo 
I checked out Soros on Wikipedia. He's currently worth $8.3 Billion but has donated $32 Billion to his charity, Open Society Foundations. He sounds like a pretty decent guy. I see he has a lot of political opinions too.
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"Open Society Foundations (OSF), formerly the Open Society Institute, is an international grantmaking network founded by business magnate George Soros. Open Society Foundations financially support civil society groups around the world, with a stated aim of advancing justice, education, public health and independent media."
By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 07:24 other posts of ANGEL1227 
OMG. I didn't know he was so bad.
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By huxley999 at 12,Jun,20 07:52 other posts of huxley999 
If you have some time, this is (in my opinion) a pretty balanced article about Soros. Like anyone, he's neither saint nor devil. That nuanced view of him is, however, less popular than wacky conspiracy theories that denounce him as a nasty Jew who wants some sort of New World Order.

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The fact that phart has provided a link showing why Hungary kicked out his University seems, to me, to show that (more often than not) Soros has been a force for good - even if that's a somewhat flawed force. Hungary is ruled by a guy with authoritarian tendencies, so butting heads with someone like Soros was, somewhat, inevitable.
By phart at 12,Jun,20 10:28 other posts of phart 
Imagine that,I tried to present a balanced response.Bankrupting nations is not a good thing.
Like I said,if you get your info from only certian sources and not all of them,you may not understand it all.
By huxley999 at 12,Jun,20 11:14 other posts of huxley999 
I've read both your links about Soros, phart. Seems to me like he was a successful hedge fund manager who made a fortune, and spent some of it on philanthropic projects.

So, here's the rub: are you in favour of capitalism or not?
That's what global capitalism looks like: people speculate as to whether stock, or currencies, will fall or rise in value. If you have a pension, that's what the pension funds do too - they invest in stock and currency. The link you provided shows that he wasn't even the biggest investor to put money on the baht falling in value. So, my question (to be absolutely clear):

Do YOU, phart, believe that using your knowledge about politics and the markets to invest in stock or currencies (to make a profit for yourself and investors) is somehow wrong?

The Thai government, and their Central Bank, ballsed up their economy and a Capitalist made money out of predicting this would happen and then used his capital to make a "bet" that he was right. That IS capitalism 101, dude. It makes the world, for better or worse, turn.

I'm genuinely interested in your response. I suspect you may not have all your ducks lined up on this one. Think before you answer. Particularly think about how a certain Donald Trump (despite flirting with bankruptcy on occasion) made HIS money.
Did he make widgets and then sell them?

OR, did he inherit a shitload of money and then invest it in Real Estate (in the hope that it's value would rise) to make a profit from his capital?

Fuck me, you've drawn me back into the world of "explaining economics to chimps"!! How do you do it?

By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 22:16 other posts of dgraff 
How can he donate 32 billion if heís only worth 8.3 billion the math donít add up
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And then you have angle OMG my hero end of sarcasm now let me get on my knees and reward him
By kebmo at 13,Jun,20 00:09 other posts of kebmo 
If I had $40.3 Billion and donated $32 Billion I would have $8.3 Billion left.

By Upupandback at 11,Jun,20 16:44 other posts of Upupandback 
All the blind fools our country is the weakest it has ever been well the ones that can see knows to get ready for some scary times in this country im scared for what my baby's are going to go thought people don't have a voice any more and it a sad day when our government uses our own people stupid people but our own people to destroy and totally turn our country communist the main Gould is a one world government and one currency with out using any weapon just a bunch of dumb fucking liberals in short shit is all fucked up all we can do is pray to the one that will and dose have the real power that's the only further only real further for real people that have real hearts that love one a notter and give our faith over to the all might GOD and he's son Jesus Christ he will make the week strong and the pour rich amen
By huxley999 at 11,Jun,20 16:49 other posts of huxley999 
Fucking hell, dude.

Try a full stop or a comma once in a while - anywhere!

PS. you're a fucking nutjob. The fact that you're a believer is, in my humble opinion, not unrelated.

Note the use of litotes?
By JustWill at 11,Jun,20 19:06 other posts of JustWill 
It's the "dumb fucking liberals"--with all their fancy grammar and punctuation and stuff like that there--that are going to ruin the country!

By bella! at 11,Jun,20 19:17 other posts of bella! 
Oh, my goodness and thank you! I had to Google "litotes" and now understand that litotes is a figure of speech, irony. Thank you Mr. Google, for providing the audio pronunciation of this word. Gosh, I would have murdered the word had I tried to razzle and dazzle someone with "my new word" and incorporate into a conversation!

By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 07:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
UPUPANDBACK, perfect example why our people are following our esteemed leader.
They missed graduation from high school. College is a street downtown. The future of a nation is making it great again. Some "GOULD". But, if that fails, lets wait for the second coming.
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By bella! at 12,Jun,20 07:58 other posts of bella! 
Seriously? No! What would your site friends think of you becoming "grammar police"? Are you calling out another member about their spelling?
By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 08:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
No! I'm calling him/her out for his/her political views.The gist of the post was about our sad state of national politics. The fact that he/she is totally grammar challenged is extra proof that Trump and the conservative right draw their support from the great unwashed.
BUT,.........What would your site friends think of you becoming "grammar police"?...........If that's your "take-away", so be it.
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Re-reading my post I realized this would be fitting. No offense.

By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 22:21 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha my thoughts exactly

By JustWill at 11,Jun,20 19:03 other posts of JustWill 
Has it crossed anyone's mind that this is all a plot by aliens from Uranus who are trying to get us all fighting with each other so that they can sneak in and take over the Earth?
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 19:05 other posts of bella! 
Is that sarcasm or just a butt joke?

Your anus, not mine!
By JustWill at 11,Jun,20 19:07 other posts of JustWill 
There are no aliens in MY anus, thank you very much!
And...it could very well be both.
By dgraff at 11,Jun,20 20:28 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha I had monkeys fly out my but hole once they looked like George Floyd

By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 08:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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Florida's governor has had his lips glued to Trump's ass. Let's open Florida. Screw the people
By phart at 12,Jun,20 10:35 other posts of phart 
PLease,help me understand,just how long do you expect America to just "float" while everyone hides under rocks from a virus that will just hide outside the rock until you come out? The country is so economicly weak now most any foreign power could invade and take over.
By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 11:21 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Until we develop a vaccine, until we test all the people and perform contact visits to possible transmission. It would be foolish to throw all the previous effort in the trash. I would think over 100,000 dead Americans would feel the same. This is not "floating". It makes sense. The whims of a megalomaniac septuagenarian Are not to be listened to.
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What's more, economically weak countries like ours are still in fighting trim. The military is the mightiest in the world. You think China or North Korea will flood Kansas with phony $20 bills? No, wait, Canada will ship all it's bacon to Boro Park, Brooklyn and the diamond trade will fizzle? Maybe Costa Rica will invade Mexico and change the name to New Mexico before they invade the USA. Our New Mexico will sue for copyright infringement.

By phart at 12,Jun,20 12:28 other posts of phart 
A billionaire that is Now President is not to be listened to,but a snow bird in florida is?
Neither of us could run a cotton gin,much less a country,but we have to be smart in who we think should.And I can't agree with you,Trump was the better choice in 2016.And poor ol Biden,I still say I would rather have him than Bernie,but the poor guy just aint got all his marbles in the bag.
By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 12:49 other posts of ANGEL1227 
That billionare has been riding his daddy's coattails all his life. He has bankrupted every enterprise he ever touched. Now, he did it to the country too.
Biden credits his parents with instilling in him toughness, hard work and perseverance. He has recalled his father frequently saying, "Champ, the measure of a man is not how often he is knocked down, but how quickly he gets up." He's also said that when he would come home sullen because he had been bullied by one of the bigger kids in the neighborhood, his mother would tell him, "Bloody their nose so you can walk down the street the next day
Sounds to me Biden is more of a man than the clown you worship
By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 18:44 other posts of dgraff 
Ha Biden is nothing more than an old fool with senile thoughts he stutters he canít put two sentences together without looking at his wife for approval he holds communist values heís a dangerous tool in a position of power
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By dgraff at 12,Jun,20 18:50 other posts of dgraff 
Thatís 100.000 weak and sickly dead the strong survive

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Delusions of an old man.
By phart at 12,Jun,20 10:31 other posts of phart 
No,someone who knows this "change" is not in the best interst of Americas future. Have you read the demands of the "Chaz" group set up in Seattle? Read the demands of that group and tell me you want a bunch like that running a entire nation.
Here,let me save you some time looking for it.
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By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 11:09 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Actually, I couldn't care less. I'm voting for Vice-President Biden. The Chaz group can kiss my ass.
By phart at 12,Jun,20 12:25 other posts of phart 
Just pay attention ok? There was info out there,probably gone now,that the dems may actually try to get rid of him as incompetant if he gets in,then the vice would assume the office.
By ANGEL1227 at 12,Jun,20 12:43 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Well, if he picks a woman for vice-president, we may get true leadership.
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Phart, Phart, Phart. Do you subscribe to that rag sheet, "Paranoia and Conspiracy Theories"? Do they list them in alphabetical or numerical order?
By phart at 12,Jun,20 15:06 other posts of phart 
Do you ever think that perhaps things are NOT what they seem?
By the way, go by Jacksonville and say Howdy to Donald for me will ye? Looks like your neighbors and freinds might make a little money thanks to our dumbass,lilly liver govenor.

By JustWill at 11,Jun,20 21:04 other posts of JustWill 
Any morning that I log on to the site and see a picture of Mr. Yumm's dingus in the top corner of my page, I know it will be a spiffy day!
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 22:38 other posts of bella! 
And you do know that every 4 hours you may touch the [HOT] option, which is near Mr. Yumm's dingus and receive 3 points! By doing that, it keeps your favorite member's member prominently displayed on the top of your page!
By kebmo at 12,Jun,20 03:09 other posts of kebmo 
It can also keep your least favourite member from staying on top... if you choose to vote that way.
By bella! at 12,Jun,20 05:28 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, I choose to use my vote for my favorite. If I felt that strongly about my personal favorite, that member's picture may receive additional votes at a cost of 20 points to me. In my mind, there's no reason to use my vote to keep my "least favorite" member from staying on top.

By JustWill at 12,Jun,20 06:46 other posts of JustWill 
I don't have a "least" favorite member.
Well, not just ONE, at any rate...

By JustWill at 12,Jun,20 06:48 other posts of JustWill 
I do know.
However, "touching" pictures of Mr. Yumm's dingus just seems so...forward.
And, I'd be late for work every day...

By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 09:23 other posts of huxley999 
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Interesting. Do you think we are all inherently good, or do you subscribe to the "veneer theory"? Recent events have made me question that very point.
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 11:32 other posts of bella! 
This is a very interesting piece of reading.

I would like to believe that babies brought into this world are "good", however I recognize that their socioeconomic status will factor into who the child will become. Conversely, there are babies brought into the world, not born of "good stock" that will flourish and become exemplary human beings.

So after reading that article, I scratch my head and am still confused.
By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 11:45 other posts of huxley999 
I've given it some thought too. I think what sets us aside from most, if not all, of the animal kingdom is our intelligence (hence: Homo SAPIENS) but we still have our animal instincts deep within us.

We can, therefore, as a species use our intelligence for nefarious purposes (war, slavery, oppression etc) or, on the other hand, for good. As we have developed language, and writing, we are also able to pass on what's best about our society to the generations as yet unborn. I'm also a strong believer that mutual aid played a big part in our evolution as a species. If we solely acted on "animal instincts" I don't think we would have such a developed civilisation. By communicating, dividing labour, co-operating and recording stuff we are able to produce surpluses of food and goods. That in turn allows us the "free" time to write poetry, compose music, establish universities et al.

So, that "good" side of us is the bit that advances our species. The Social Darwinism attitude (what can I get for MYSELF) may achieve short-term gains for an individual or group, but doesn't necessarily help advance all. We can, as humans, be brilliant at co-operation - The Antarctic Treaty System springs to mind. Conversely, our history is also littered with the most vile atrocities. Not just taking life, but behaving in the most brutal ways. It's a puzzle, that's for sure!
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 13:43 other posts of bella! 
So in your opinion, are we inherently good, or is it merely a veneer?
By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 13:52 other posts of huxley999 
Ahhh, there's the rub!

Personally, I think we have the capacity for both good and evil. Some err more to one side or the other, as a result of genetics. But Ö I think environment has a massive part to play.

If you're brought up with good role models, boundaries, and encouraged to be empathetic I believe this will allow your "good" side (in the vast majority of cases) to rise to the surface.

On the other hand, if you're brought up to believe that in order for you to get on in life you must "win" and outdo others I believe that will bring out the worst in you. For me - that's why global, free market Capitalism is a scourge and gives us such perverse, global consequences. Maybe it's just a stage in the further evolution of mankind, and one day we will have a world without the excesses of billionaires co-existing with children dying for the want of a glass of clean water.

More later - time to feed my inner daimon!
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 12:08 other posts of bella! 
Last evening, I found something on YouTube titled; NO ONE SAW A THING, it was the story of the murder of Ken Rex McElroy in Skidmore, Missouri in 1981.

I've only watched part 1 and the circumstances and story are wild. Small Town, America, 284 residents, the wife believes that there was 60 or more residents that witnessed the shooting. Based on shell casings found at the scene, as many as three people were involved in firing shots at Ken Rex, who the town called "the town bully", but no one saw a thing.
By huxley999 at 11,Jun,20 12:51 other posts of huxley999 
Good tip: I've found it on YouTube - 6 episodes by the look of it. A good binge-watch beckons!!
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 13:26 other posts of bella! 
It really isn't necessary to watch, I only looked up or over when a different voice was introduced and that was so I follow who said what.
By huxley999 at 11,Jun,20 13:33 other posts of huxley999 
It sounds right up my street. Have you ever watched "The Staircase" on Netflix? Real life stuff is always my preference - no matter how good a film is, if it's fiction, I always feel like watching it is a bit frivolous!

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By bella! at 11,Jun,20 14:37 other posts of bella! 
When I read the link attached, I remember the story. It was something featured on Dateline, a weekly evening newsmagazine. What truck me then, was that his first wife died as a result from falling down the staircase and that her daughters, daughters from a prior relationship, supported their "dad" and his innocence.

I do have Netflix and that will be my next "project". Only 13 episodes that are 45 minutes long.....
By huxley999 at 11,Jun,20 14:44 other posts of huxley999 
It's worth it .. you go from being sure he's innocent to exactly the opposite, sometimes within the space of one episode!

The level of access that the documentary makers managed to get is stupefying. It's also, for me anyway, another glimpse of a foreign legal system that's both baffling and heavily-loaded in favour of those that can afford good representation.

By JustWill at 11,Jun,20 21:01 other posts of JustWill 
I'll take "veneer theory" for the win.
Humans are born sociopaths, and have to be taught (and choose to embrace) empathy and "goodness".
Anyone who has spent a reasonable amount of time around an infant must have noticed that we come into the world as a selfish bundle of Id personified.

By dgraff at 11,Jun,20 07:21 other posts of dgraff 
Howís the flooding going in Michigan Bella any better
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 08:12 other posts of bella! 
In 2017, I applied for a home equity loan and the loan was contingent upon me purchasing flood insurance. I had a survey done and it was determined that my home is situated above the flood plain. My immediate neighbors, the two to the west as well as the two to the east have finally had steel seawalls installed. Although my property has a good amount of wetness going on toward the front at the river, I think things should be good.

The water levels are still very high and the seawalls are doing their jobs. As long as the boaters are mindful and respectful about the wake their boats create, we homeowners shouldn't be in any peril.
By dgraff at 11,Jun,20 11:47 other posts of dgraff 
Good glad to hear that
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Iíve been dealing with severe thunderstorms with tornado warning in affect and when you live in the mountains and have 60 foot trees around you it makes you worry a little
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 12:45 other posts of bella! 
We had a hella storm roll in last night and we didn't need the kind of rain that it brought.

By kebmo at 11,Jun,20 15:46 other posts of kebmo 
Bella, did you just tell us that your property has a good amount of wetness going on toward the front? You dirty girl!!
By bella! at 11,Jun,20 16:03 other posts of bella! 
Uh, yes. I avoid looking out the front windows as I'm scared that Swamp Thing might emerge at any moment!

By phart at 08,Jun,20 10:40 other posts of phart 
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watch this,and tell me it is a lie
By Scorps at 08,Jun,20 13:25 other posts of Scorps 
Yeah I noticed that too! Good video, thanks for posting it.
By phart at 08,Jun,20 14:05 other posts of phart 
I am hoping that Hux and Two warm will give their reactions.
It is saying in short we have been duped by the virus thing.
By Scorps at 09,Jun,20 03:07 other posts of Scorps 
Ahhhhh Neither are big on logic, but they sure accel at racial divisions.
By Skittles at 10,Jun,20 15:08 other posts of Skittles 
That banning cunt the saggy granny-- I know that old old ass has been spouting off-

Lots of all caps, edits, and her patented cut and paste. She has no thoughts or opinions of her own! A total site loser!

By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 19:16 other posts of kebmo 
Yeah Skittles I know your in love with Angel, I've known it for quite a while actually. Why else would you talk about her every time you comment here even though you rarely add a thing to any conversation being had. You have dozens of blog stories about her too. Yeah, it's true love but in the most immature way possible.
You're like a little boy who pulls the hair of a little girl because he likes her. You're just a childish little love struck boy with a computer infatuated with Angel.
Think I'm wrong? Just look at every post you post. Saggy this and saggy that. Nothing but infatuation. Why don't you just tell her that you love her and get it over with because, although I can't speak on behalf of other members here, I sure as hell am sick and tired of your bull shit.
Why don't you try adding some substance to an ongoing conversation without mentioning her. Go ahead, try to say something intelligent. Surprise me!
Now I know you're all angry now and you're going to reply to me with your limited vocabulary using lots of hate filled words in an attempted personal attack followed by your green laughing signature and of course you'll think about adding some gifts to my page too but you know what Piddles? Those things don't bother me because I'm an adult and I've dealt with a lot of children through the years and you're just another love struck little boy acting out.
Try to add something related to the conversations and spare us all your feelings of love about Angel. It will make you a little less annoying.
By Skittles at 11,Jun,20 10:06 other posts of Skittles 
Try to be less of a cunt. I think you are ashamed to be from Canada. All you do is talk about Trump and America.

How long did it take your feeble mind to write all of that??

By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 07:51 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, Scorps, give me a break. Miami was locked down tighter than a virgin's chastity belt. EXCEPT TO GO SHOPPING FOR GROCERIES, GOING TO WORK, VISITING MY FAMILY, KEEPING APPOINTMENTS WITH MEDICAL PERSONNEL.
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By phart at 09,Jun,20 09:29 other posts of phart 
Time will tell who was right and wrong.And judging by the case count going up in the past few days,the "protest" and the riots that follow could very well be what is running the numbers up.
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 10:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
That's a given. I guess demonstrators would rather take a chance than demonstrate. They must think it's important, ALL OVER THE WORLD
By phart at 09,Jun,20 10:54 other posts of phart 
Is it THAT important to suddenly take a intrest in doing something DURING a pandemic ?
This problem did not pop up out of no where,it has been around for decades.why now? because it can drive more nails in the coffin of the economy maby? Bad economy means no jobs,can't support your family.Not good.
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 13:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Because a man got murdered NOW. It was the last straw.
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Like the economy is in great shape. It's official. The economy is in recession. The great economic bubble went bust and Trump has a lot of blame to carry
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 19:52 other posts of dgraff 
No a criminal got murdered get it straight
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 20:32 other posts of ANGEL1227 
So, criminals are not men? Your precious Constitution with its second amendment says a man is innocent until proven guilty. The man was just that, a man. With all the prominent people from all over the world, why do you still try to deny what happened to him?
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 20:52 other posts of dgraff 
I donít deny anything he tried to buy some thing with a counterfeit 20 dollar bill that my friend is a federal crime why do you deny that he had a criminal history and got caught passing phony money
By bella! at 09,Jun,20 21:19 other posts of bella! 
dgraff, as a merchant, you handle money every day and would probably be able to identify a counterfeit bill by the touch me, I would need one of those markers. With that said, is it even possible that George Floyd was not aware that he had a counterfeit bill in the first place?
By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:27 other posts of phart 
As I said before somewhere else,that 20 dollar bill is the key to this whole mess.

What was that cop afraid of that was worse than a murder rap? He murdered a man on camera.
Mr Floyd served 5 years for holding a gun to a pregnant womans stomach as others ransacked her house and all they took was her cell phone and credit cards.
But tramatized that woman and could have caused issuses with the unborn baby.

By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 21:31 other posts of dgraff 
Maybe but given his past history I set the odds at 100 to 1 he new Iím not saying the cops were right Iím just saying letís not make Floyd out to be a saint
By bella! at 09,Jun,20 22:26 other posts of bella! 
dgraff, you're smarter than that. Please tell me you don't shoot first and ask questions later. You surely don't think a person is guilty until proven innocent, do you?
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 04:30 other posts of dgraff 
No no not at all I just believe the media is making him out to be a saint and itís all ready been proven he is not by his past history I should know Iím no saint either
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I just seen they are painting angel wings on Floyd yeah right heís in heaven

By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 08:05 other posts of ANGEL1227 
The reason for a trial is to prove it happened and intent. Suppose someone else gave him change with that twenty? It happens. Do you think if I had given the clerk a phony twenty I'd be dead too? Bullshit. BTW once you pay your debt to society, the slate is wipped clean.
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 08:41 other posts of dgraff 
The media said Floyd gave the clerk the phony bill the clerk swiped it with his pen and told Floyd it was counterfeit and ask for another one Floyd ignored the clerk picked up his stuff and scurried out the door that in my book is now theft unless you are going to tell me Floyd was deff or hard of hearing
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 12:01 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff, this is another version.
In the 911 transcript a Cup Foods clerk told the dispatcher, "Um, someone comes our store and give us fake bills and we realize it before he left the store, and we ran back outside, they was sitting on their car."
This was from the 911 transcript. It does not matter. If we follow your insinuations, cops should shoot to kill anyone that may or may not have broken the law including speeding.
To say that passing a counterfeit bill is reason enough to murder a: criminal or man or woman or a dog, shows the lack of humanity in our society. I'm a woman and I would have jumped on that piece of garbage cop and fought him and his buddies while screaming at the top of my lungs.
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 14:23 other posts of dgraff 
Now their you go again putting words in other peopleís mouth if you bother to read above you will see I said I donít approve of how the cops handled it Iím just sick of the media making him out to be a saint
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 14:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Ok, he was no saint. If I put words in your mouth, I'm sorry. Now, tell me. How would you report this story if you were a reporter? Show us how you would have handled it different?
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 18:29 other posts of dgraff 
Thank you thatís all I wanted to hear you say he was no saint in answer to your question if I was the media I would have minded my own business and not reported it at all swept it under the rug so to speak shit shows like this happen every day some were in the world like I said before world travel is easy nowadays if you live in a country that you donít love then move find one that suits you I happen to love my country the way it is with out a bunch of ruthless law breakers running rampant in the streets
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 18:37 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It would have been too late.

By bella! at 11,Jun,20 11:53 other posts of bella! 
I truly hope that it was IGNORANCE that caused the death of George Floyd and that murder was never the intent.

By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:22 other posts of phart 
Trump was told to shut down the country to supposedly save lives. Did it? Time will tell.

By phart at 10,Jun,20 09:24 other posts of phart 
1 man was murdered,yes,no disagree there,BUT the protest and riots are spreading the virus like wildfire,even the National guard members that were at DC are testing positive now.What does that say for the protesters and rioters? 1 man murdered,resulting in 100s of potential deaths from a virus spread by the protest,is that a fair trade? 1 death is to many.
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 15:01 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Yes, Phart, many deaths over one man's murder. You might be aware of Archduke Franz Ferdinand.

By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 14:41 other posts of huxley999 
Speak for yourself, please, and ffs turn off CAPS LOCK. I'm done trying to educate phart and his cohort - I was beginning to feel like Jane Goodall.

My belly laugh of the day came though, this time courtesy of that towering intellect: Scorps. I "accel" (sic) at racial divisions? Nice one, fuckwit. You EXCEL at making a fucking show of yourself.
By phart at 09,Jun,20 14:46 other posts of phart 
I thought I might would make a good jack ass whisper'er until I came accross Hux,seems I have alot to learn to try to educate some
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 14:49 other posts of huxley999 
Are you trying to see how many grammatical errors and spelling mistakes you can squeeze into one sentence, phart? I'm no grammar Nazi, but your level of illiteracy makes it hard not to comment. Have a great day, you weird little primate.
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 15:41 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Hux, I use caps to distinguish my post from the other person. I know it's supposed to stand for shouting, but, there you are. And FFS it's readable and best of all, not necessary to do so.

By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 15:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Now,now,now, Hux, who was it that said (and I paraphrase) punctuation and spelling Nazis in the internet are..etc
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 16:43 other posts of huxley999 
Blah, blah, blah Ö if the only thing you take from my message is SPEAK FOR YOURSELF, in the future, I'm done.
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 17:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Wow, you sure take everything to heart. But if you are done, ok. I've been here over four years. I've met a lot of people. Some nice and easy. Some like you. YOU do what you like. I can ignore you. I can even block you. But mostly I can laugh at your silly "I'm smarter than you" attitude.
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 18:17 other posts of huxley999 
*clears throat* - 9 years.

I may not be "nice and easy" by your standards, but I'll wear that as a badge of pride given your reputation for getting along with everyone and not being a royal pain in the ass! (sarcasm alert)

I don't necessarily think I'm smarter than you: I suspect you may be indulging in psychological projection. You have your own thread (is it "stuff, stuff and stuff?) which you could just stick to. You don't though, so I'll comment as much as I like on your inane posts.

I won't be commenting on the posts in your own thread though: I don't need to visit a sewage farm to know that shit stinks.
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 18:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
There are so many comebacks to that last sentence. Best to let your imagination take over. And, by all means, comment on my inane posts. Other members can make their own minds about you.
BTW if you're looking for love or approval, join a cat house. I'm sure your male pussy has gotten plenty of practice.
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 18:59 other posts of huxley999 
Excellent, sounds like we've both resorted to ad hominem attacks. All done here

By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 19:28 other posts of dgraff 
You keep giving up your seniority by deleting your account and resurfacing as someone else and I might add half your real age so in reality you are a member not quite 4 months
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 19:49 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Hey Dgraff, is Huxley giving you dick or are you giving him dick? Because you two are working me like a WWE tag team.
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 19:55 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha I knew you were a wrestling fan I bet you like monster truck rallyís to
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 20:26 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I take my grandson to them.
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 20:38 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha nothing wrong with that I like them to grave digger all the way

By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 05:51 other posts of kebmo 
Angel, for the triple win now tell us you're a Nascar fan as well as a WWE and monster truck fan!
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 06:40 other posts of bella! 
You know you're a redneck.....

When my nephews were little boys, they were into wrestling, monster trucks and even baseball from watching television. I enjoyed taking them to live events, thank goodness that they did not have any interest in NASCAR, I don't know if I could have sat through anything like that.

By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 07:16 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I've been a Jimmie Johnson groupie for years. Every year we spend a few days in Daytona. Miami is not what you would call a Nascar mecca but we get a few in Homestead.
By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 09:34 other posts of kebmo 
Angel I'm pretty sure Donald Trump is looking for your vote! WWE, NASCAR and monster trucks? Oh yeah, he wants you BAD.
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 11:36 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Transplanted northener.

By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:28 other posts of phart 
I am 5-11 and about 230 pounds. Hardly a LITTLE Primate.
By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 09:02 other posts of huxley999 
Jeez, lay off the grits dude!

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By phart at 10,Jun,20 09:28 other posts of phart 
Mountain Dew put these pounds on, And my appetite is that of a small bird nowadays. My arthritis is getting so bad now I can't even ball a fist hardly. 4 bc powders yesterday just to be able to function for a couple hours.I dont want to kick the bucket.But I believe I would have to get to feeling better to do so.
By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 10:10 other posts of huxley999 
Sounds rough. Hang in there, buddy.

By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 11:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Charlie takes 4 ibuprofen in the morning, 4 for lunch, 4 for dinner. 240 mgs
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 13:22 other posts of bella! 
Ibuprofen aka Motrin is not for everyone. Also, if Charlie is taking OTC ibuprofen, those capsules or tablets are 200 mg each. 800 mg three times daily is 2400 mg.
By ANGEL1227 at 10,Jun,20 14:45 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You are probably right but he said its Aleve
By phart at 10,Jun,20 17:39 other posts of phart 
Aleve causes my ticker to act funny.
I was on 800's 4 times a day for a year or more.Made me sleepy. Bc powder kept me from becoming a dope head as it suppressed the pain enough I could try to get back to normal but after a while you have to change medicines as you get immune.so I alternate between tylenol and bcs
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 18:05 other posts of dgraff 
Smoke a joint you will forget you have pain at all

By bella! at 09,Jun,20 17:55 other posts of bella! 
Hey, phart, in all sincerity, I find well read, intellectual men so sexy and they get extra "sexy" points if they wear glasses, too! My radar is locked in on JustWill and huxley999. And just for the record, when I listen and hear what is being said instead of trying to focus on my next statement, inevitably I learn.
By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:18 other posts of phart 
I wear dollar store reading glasses ,they don't count!
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 21:39 other posts of dgraff 
Hey thatís what I wear to

By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 05:50 other posts of kebmo 
Bella, I wear bifocals. Am I therefore twice as sexy?
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By bella! at 10,Jun,20 06:41 other posts of bella! 
Absolutely, kebmo, you're BIG sexy!
By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 06:52 other posts of kebmo 
Oh Bella! You know I'm shy but you can look at my wiener if you want. Just once though.

By ANGEL1227 at 11,Jun,20 09:53 other posts of ANGEL1227 
1227 at 11,Jun,20 09:51 other posts Edit

Virginia protesters tear down a statue of Jefferson Davis a day after bringing down Christopher Columbus

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By Skittles at 10,Jun,20 18:59 other posts of Skittles 
100% this is one of the fuck up Indians on this site

An Indian man required surgery after inserting a 2-foot-long phone charger into his penis for sexual gratification, a report said.

The unidentified man tried to hide the true cause of his ailment when he sought medical help last month at a hospital in northeastern India, claiming he consumed earphones, Dr. Walliul Islam told CNN on Monday.

Doctors prescribed the man laxatives, but he returned to the hospital five days later when he was still complaining of pain.

Islam, a surgeon at the hospital, told the network that ďdespite passing stool several times the cable did not come out.Ē

ďAs the patient complained of severe pain, we decided to perform surgery and found that there was nothing in his intestine,Ē Islam said.

Later, through an X-ray, doctors discovered the phone charger inside his bladder, which is connected to the penis via the urethra.

ďI have read that people used to get sexual gratification by inserting instruments through the penis,Ē Islam said. ďThis is one such case, and the psychiatrist can help him beyond this point.Ē

The surgeon said the man recovered, but noted if he had ďbeen honest, then it would have saved us the trouble and we could have treated him sooner.Ē


By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 14:37 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I don't understand why men control our lives so much. They are not very smart. They are not in our (women's) league. They wear their nappies so tight, if they were breeding bulls they would be shot for being sterile. They love to suck cock. I mean, look at this site. "I found cock and now I want it every day. Am I gay?" They play with their toys all the time. Their cars, their guns, their dicks. Who needs them?
By phart at 09,Jun,20 14:42 other posts of phart 
Try making sperm in a test tube!
I am concerned that being a "MAN" is becoming taboo anyway.
When I watch youtube or tv,I see ad's for LAWNMOWER 3.0 and men shaving themselves like they are going swimming in the Olympics or something. Another ad shows a man in a flannel shirt ordering all kinds of bathroom fixtures on his telephone and they are delivered and installed by a "professional".
It aint manly to pay someone to do simple home projects.
Another ad shows a male,not very masculine,buying boards and hammer and nails and then in the garage trying to nail together a book shelf. Later it is a bonfire and he hands the lady,presumably his wife ,a box or something.I mean really? A man that can't build a book shelf? And expects a woman to look up to him as making good healthy smart kids?
I am surprised any babies are being made at all.
BTW,I seldom play with the dick and my gun needs cleaning,but I do play with my cars and trucks and tractors and,
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 14:50 other posts of huxley999 
Stereotyping sucks, huh? Mr "fried chicken" on a Sunday! Unbelievable!!
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By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 19:49 other posts of dgraff 
You should be worried angel men are evolving to the point where they soon wonít need a woman anymore what good are they anyway nothing but heart aches and headaches
By ANGEL1227 at 09,Jun,20 20:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
And tits and pussy. Don't forget, tits and pussy
By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:21 other posts of phart 
and don't forget the Heart aches!
Seriously,I think for about 10 grand you can get a life size semirobotic woman made in California now.You can even send your favorite woman out there to be 3d scanned and have copies made!
The Japanese have really worked hard to create robotic companions. I think in about 20 years it will be a viable alternative to a biological woman.

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By phart at 10,Jun,20 09:34 other posts of phart 
Me to movement tactics maby? YOu can't get to close to me! I will sue yoU!

By bella! at 09,Jun,20 22:40 other posts of bella! 
I saw an interesting thread that surprisingly, did not have any posts. The title of the thread was something about lovin' a man with a beard. Hey, I'm on board with that, I think facial hair is rather appealing!


What I thought was odd about the topic was that the author, this is the young guy who wants a "daddy" to take care of him and is really only interested in receiving blow jobs and not reciprocating. Anyway.....he goes on to say his penis sweats. I'm a 21st century girl, I've seen those Manscaped ads on YouTube for "crop preserver" aka ball deodorant but I was actually unaware that a man's penis sweats. Does your penis sweat?

I think the old Manscaped commercial(s) are a hoot!

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By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 00:47 other posts of kebmo 
I'm sure some bearded men have oral sex with their wives or girlfriends and enjoy the scent throughout the day! Why not? I know a guy with a mega beard and now I want to ask him but I don't know him THAT well. I'll never look at him and his wife the same again!

Awesome commercial!
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 06:52 other posts of bella! 
I'm sure that there are buh-jillions of bearded men orally pleasuring women and men, alike, but what I'm curious about is whether penises perspire.

There are threads in the forum that mock this thread because of of occasional food discussioms, it's a sex site, for gawd's sake! So, since you were the first person to respond, let's discuss your penis. Does your penis perspire?
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 06:58 other posts of dgraff 
Not my penis but if itís really hot out my balls get a little sticky feeling
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By bella! at 10,Jun,20 07:02 other posts of bella! 
Thank you Mr. dgraff, for your honest answer.

By JustWill at 10,Jun,20 07:05 other posts of JustWill 
Some talc contains asbestos in its natural form, so breathing in talcum powder could be a health risk.
The cancer bit is about ovarian cancer, though, so as long as you keep the powder out of your vagina you should be very low risk.
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 07:11 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha thanks for the information I was even afraid to use it in my work boots I didnít know if it could cause skin cancer

By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 07:18 other posts of kebmo 
dgraff, use cornstarch. I am a member of a Chef's Facebook page and there was a huge discussion about talc, baby powder and cornstarch to deal with sweaty cracks in a hot kitchen.
Right off the hop let me inform you that the whole idea disgusts me and I have never used any of those products for said purpose but it happens. There was a pretty straight line right across the Canada / US border about who does and does not do that. American cooks do and Canadian cooks don't. Yes, it does get hot in Canadian kitchens but....really?
Anyway.... try cornstarch instead of talc. Cornstarch is in some gloves worn in medical or food settings. It's hypoallergenic so the chances of issues is minimal.
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 07:22 other posts of dgraff 
Can I use it in my work boots my feet are in them at least 12 hours a day
By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 08:40 other posts of kebmo 
Dgraff, try cornstarch in your work boots if you like but use it under the same rule as spicing food, anger or swearing: You can always add more but it's very difficult to take it back.
By phart at 10,Jun,20 09:32 other posts of phart 
Oh my,I have been useing baby butt powder in tires for years to keep the inner tubes from sticking to the inside of the tire. I hope I don't rot my tires!

By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 07:07 other posts of kebmo 
No my penis does not swear.
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Haha, or sweat!
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By bella! at 10,Jun,20 07:19 other posts of bella! 
Thank goodness your penis does not swear! I suspect that it might be difficult to explain loud vulgarities coming from the vicinity of your groin!
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 07:24 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha thatís funny mine swears if I get it snagged in my zipper
By bella! at 10,Jun,20 07:42 other posts of bella! 
Wear cotton underpants, silly man! The twofold benefit is that there will be less of a chance to get "snagged" AND cotton, a breathable fabric, should absorb moisture so no "sticky balls".

By huxley999 at 10,Jun,20 07:40 other posts of huxley999 
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By bella! at 10,Jun,20 07:49 other posts of bella! 
And I thought that socks and tissues packed in trousers was more for the aesthetic value!

By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 08:31 other posts of dgraff 
WOW I agree who knew

By kebmo at 09,Jun,20 17:07 other posts of kebmo 
I live in a city of 100,000. There have been 37 cases of COVID-19, all of whom have recovered with no deaths. My city currently has zero active cases!
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 17:29 other posts of huxley999 
Good news! Is there anything in particular, in your opinion, that gave you such a great result?
By kebmo at 09,Jun,20 18:46 other posts of kebmo 
Absolutely! We all (mostly) did what were told and stuck to the plan.
By huxley999 at 09,Jun,20 18:54 other posts of huxley999 
You wacky Canadians!!
By kebmo at 09,Jun,20 20:34 other posts of kebmo 
Crazy eh?
By dgraff at 09,Jun,20 20:45 other posts of dgraff 
I live on the top of Graffs mountain only a handful of houses towards the bottom so less than 100 people so far 0 corona virus cases and 0 deaths in fact that is in the last three years
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That's great! Now if I could just get that Carpenters song out of my head! "I'm on top of the world looking down on creation..." only registered users can see external links
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 04:32 other posts of dgraff 
Good song
By kebmo at 10,Jun,20 05:42 other posts of kebmo 
I remember the Carpenters TV show. You can stand atop your mountain and sing it to the peasants below you!
By dgraff at 10,Jun,20 06:10 other posts of dgraff 
I love living secluded like this

By phart at 06,Jun,20 19:25 other posts of phart 
Let me toss out 1 more question.
The Phrase, Black lives matter.
Read that and think about it for a moment.
If you are anything other than black,what does that tell you about the value of your life to the person saying it?
Could that phrase not be interpreted as being racist,offensive?
If you want to end racism,why offend the other folks as soon as you speak?
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 19:50 other posts of ANGEL1227 
By phart at 06,Jun,20 20:09 other posts of phart 
I am sorry,but it should ALM not BLM.
If everyone is supposed to accept each other as equals.

Apparently I am not alone in my thinking.
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in 2015,78% of the people polled said it aligned with their way of thinking.
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 20:17 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It is but if you have a green building that needs a new coat of paint, do you remark the yellow is fading? It should be BLM. They are, after all talking about African Americans
By phart at 06,Jun,20 20:30 other posts of phart 
There is another key issue,
African- American.
Damn it,if you were born here in the US,you are a AMERICAN. Ditch the prefixs.
I don't go around telling everyone I am Cherekee,Confederate,German,Scottish American,I just simply say,I am a American.
And before you crawl in my drawers about Confederate,We were a Country for a while.So technicaly if your ancestors were in the south during that time you are of Confederate desent.
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 10:35 other posts of ANGEL1227 
The Confederate States of America was a collection of 11 states that seceded from the United States in 1860 following the election of President Abraham Lincoln. Led by Jefferson Davis and existing from 1861 to 1865, the Confederacy struggled for legitimacy and was never recognized as a sovereign nation.

By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:10 other posts of phart 
To deny history is to repeat it.
All that damning me for not wanting to forget my southern heritage,you plain forgot the address the actuall issue I was talking about.
By ANGEL1227 at 08,Jun,20 07:29 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Allright, why don't you tell me in English words exactly what I plain forgot the address the actuall issue I was talking about. Did I forget about hyphenated double heritage? Did I forget to honor a "country" that lost a war and has been repudiated for it's enslavement of men? Did I forget that an American should not hyphenate double heritage and deny their family history? I don't damn you personally but what if I say, "I'm proud of my heritage, my parents were part of the Hitler movement"? But, if I understand you, you don't believe in Irish-Americans or Talian or Polish.
Why? People are proud of their heritage and this country is The Melting Pot of the world.

By phart at 08,Jun,20 13:57 other posts of phart 
being proud of your hertitage is 1 thing,throwing it up in everyones face is another.
We should all remember where we came from,the lessons learned and if wrong is in our past,try to do better.
I am not a complete asshole,I am just so tired of shit like i heard this morning from a mayor talking on fox news.She was ask,"what if my house is being broken into at 3 am ,who do I call", "perhaps you should not call police,someone might get hurt"

This shit has got to get a point that people stop hating each other and jumping up and down and screaming and actually do something about it.
Instead of defunding police to pay for social programs,how about not spending millions on landscaping a park and put that money towards youth programs for a few years? then look back and see if we can start making things look nice again or if we need to keep spending on youth.
Be reasonable,you can't have public safety without police.Without some form of deterant,police can't enforce the law.

By bella! at 08,Jun,20 19:05 other posts of bella! 
I'm curious, what percentage Native American are you?
By phart at 08,Jun,20 19:49 other posts of phart 
My great grandmother on my dads side was full Cherekee,so my dad is 1/4 so it aint alot,but it is more than .00001 like that lady politican was a few years ago in the news.
According to a quick googling and the blood quantum,I am 1/8th
By bella! at 08,Jun,20 19:55 other posts of bella! 
If your dad was 1/4 (25%), you are 1/8 Native American 12, almost 13%. Is your birth recorded in tribal records kept?
By phart at 09,Jun,20 21:31 other posts of phart 
No never persued it.I have a 8x10 photo of her holding my grandfather when he was about 2.

By dgraff at 06,Jun,20 20:43 other posts of dgraff 
I agree with you phart all lives matter that would put an end to this racial crap itís just a cry for attention any way

By phart at 06,Jun,20 20:43 other posts of phart 
Well you know we are supposed to be able to carry on these type conversations to clear up missunderstandings and work to better understand each other. But how,just how are you supposed to feel comforable walking up to someone carrying that sign and ask them why your life matters little to them?
There is part of the problem. Fear,distrust,not hatred.
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 07:21 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, if you are too afaid to ask you'll never get an answer. You ask even if you are uncomfortable.

By dgraff at 06,Jun,20 22:09 other posts of dgraff 
Fuck that all lives matter fuck all that racial bull shit itís just another reason to steal
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 07:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff. You just said that you don't give a fuck for anyone.
You just said you don't give a fuck about racism
You just said you are ignoranthow of how things work around you.
You believe all people are thiefs looking for an opportunity to steal. My Dad used to say that people believe that other people act like they would do.
It doesn't say much about your code of honor. Oviously, by your statements your COLORS stand for thievery, mayhem, and don't give anyone a friendly hand. Way to go.
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 08:35 other posts of dgraff 
Forget about all that macho shit and learn how to play guitar 🎸
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I liked the way things were back in the 70s before a lot of people decided to try to change things you are most likely one of them let things be the grass is always greener on the other side if people are not happy with this country the way they are then find another country that suits you
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 08:54 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Mostly, many of us got tired of assholes and the way they acted. My beef was with the Vietnam war. A war we should not have been in. A war that had blacks and other minorities being drafted while the rich got deferements for bone spurs in foot. I cheered Martin and Robert. And when they were murdered, I cried and took to the streets in Miami. I remember asking myself how can there be so much hatred over the color of a skin.
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 12:26 other posts of dgraff 
I truly do not think that there is much hatred over skin color but the ones I know act like we owe them something extra I go fishing with a man of color and heís a cool guy but when he gets drinking it all comes out he is way more prejudice against whites than I am of men of color
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 12:43 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I wonder why. That last sentence says it all
By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:12 other posts of phart 
explain that?

By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:21 other posts of phart 
Ok so what did Martin luther king work for?
"working to promote equal treatment of all races."

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Ok so for the Blacks to walk around saying only black lives matter is no where NEAR what King worked for and eventually was killed trying to make happen. Equal,means = not 1 sided.
So whos really racist when carrying a BLM sign?

By JustWill at 08,Jun,20 11:08 other posts of JustWill 
Where in that phrase does it say "ONLY" black lives matter?
Either you don't understand how the English language works, or you are deliberately misinterpreting it to fit your belief system.

Let me make it simple for you:
If I say HAM SANDWICHES ARE DELICIOUS, does that mean that ONLY ham sandwiches are delicious? That no other type of sandwich can also be delicious? That no other type of food is delicious?

Try DOGS ARE GREAT PETS. I guess that means that cats suck, right?

Or, how about this one: DONALD TRUMP IS AN IDIOT,
By your "logic", that means that he is the ONLY idiot, and no one else can hold that title.

The phrase BLACK LIVES MATTER is ONLY racist because you, and folks like you, are trying very hard to interpret it that way.

Are you suggesting that black lives DON'T matter?
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 13:25 other posts of huxley999 
Justwill, you have more patience than me. When phart types stuff like "for the Blacks to walk around saying only black lives matter" I despair.

Firstly, calling people "the Blacks" is like nails down a blackboard for me.

Secondly, that use of the word "only". He just doesn't get it and I'm fucked if I can be bothered to even try to correct him when he's that ill-informed.
By phart at 08,Jun,20 13:48 other posts of phart 
Not ill informed,I can fuckin read, BLM< Black lives matter.
If you say a Ham sandwich is good,we would be discussing ham sandwiches,not chicken. We are discussing LIVES here,HUMAN LIVES.
YOu TOTALY missed my point,IF equality is what they want,then ALL lives should matter to them.
The protesters are not out for equality,if they were,they would not single out 1 color .
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 14:09 other posts of huxley999 
Fuck me - 2 short planks, phart. Wallow in your ignorance.
By JustWill at 08,Jun,20 14:43 other posts of JustWill 
It's actually a bit cute that phart, in a half-assed way, is being PC (he probably doesn't get that, either).
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 14:49 other posts of huxley999 
PC = probably clueless, right?
By JustWill at 08,Jun,20 14:56 other posts of JustWill 
Purposefully clueless, perhaps?

By phart at 08,Jun,20 19:56 other posts of phart 
Not politicaly correct,just trying to be reasonable here and observe that for any level of equality to have crediablity,1 side cant be running around saying their side is the only 1 that matters.
Since 1886 civil rights,
All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws

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How many more years are needed to be equal?The ground work was in place well over a 100 years ago.

By JustWill at 08,Jun,20 14:55 other posts of JustWill 
Obviously, phart, you CAN'T read. I took the time to explain your error (just a few comments up) and you were too rude to respond.
I even kept it simple for you.
However, it is quite apparent that you just WANT to make the Black Lives Matter people out to be the racists in this situation.

Your point wasn't missed, it is just...um...pointless and silly
By phart at 08,Jun,20 15:45 other posts of phart 
No I want people to go back to living in peace and not have all these damn protest and riots and bullshit.Convict the cop of murder,and get on with life.
By JustWill at 08,Jun,20 16:53 other posts of JustWill 
Oh, you want it to go back to the way it was before?
Back when Black Lives didn't matter so much...
By phart at 08,Jun,20 19:59 other posts of phart 
In January of 2020 the umemployment rate was lowest it had ever been for all races.In late feb or early march,the stock market about hit 30,000. Everyone that made a effort was happy,thriving.2 months of being couped up,and suddenly a sorry ass cop with a chip on his shoulder knowingly kills a man on camera and the already weak,upside down country is in even worse condtion.
So yea,in short,go back to Christmas 2019 and keep the virus in china and that cops knees off a mans neck and lets see how things woulda went.

By CountryCouple54 at 06,Jun,20 10:38 other posts of CountryCouple54 
This is all a shit show. Just in time for politicians to jump to one side or the other in time for their national campaigns. The protesting down here in Hollywood went perfect last night. Mainly younger kids from all races. And of course we had Evander Holyfield there speaking. Which was probably a good thing because he still looked like he can whoop some ass. As it got dark the protesters simply went away and all was good. Everyone was safe nothing was damaged, and everybody went home to their families. I completely understand the protesting but having a son as an officer and me being ex-military. I may not have the same views as they do. There were 38 police officers shot and killed in the line of duty in 2019. There were 47 officers shot and killed in the line of duty in 2018. Since nobody wants to admit that this is a racial problem and they're simply saying it's a police brutality issue. Why haven't we marched 85 times over the last 2 years for every one of those officers that died in the line of duty. And of those 85 officers shot while wearing that badge, how many of them did you hear about, how many of them made the news, how many of them made it on YouTube? Do you see where I'm coming from? If my son is shot and killed wearing that badge, will you march for him? Will you protest all over the country so that everyone will know who he was, will you protest so that no one forgets him.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 10:55 other posts of huxley999 
Part of the answer?

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Hope your son, and you, stay safe.

By phart at 06,Jun,20 12:06 other posts of phart 
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If all the citys look at it like these, there won't be many policeman.
I don't what the hell we are supposed to do for safety.TwoWarm thinks we shouldn't have guns, the citys want to cut out police,what next,make theft legal?
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 12:40 other posts of huxley999 
If I didn't know better I'd think you were being ridiculous on purpose, phart.

Reductio ad absurdum.

Defunding has a rationale behind it.

One can make a case for stricter gun controls.

Nobody that I have heard from is suggesting we "make theft legal" - grow up, buddy!
By phart at 06,Jun,20 13:42 other posts of phart 
Defunding means the police will less equiped to do their jobs,lower paid to do their jobs,which means less protection for the tax payer.And I am the 1 being rediculas?
I just used theft legal as a example of how stupid it all sounds. When there are no police,and stealing happens,who holds the theif accountable? IF there is no 1 to hold them accountable,then it is for all practical purpose legal . Grow your self buddy.THINK For once.
No bobbys on your streets with clubs to stop a knife fight,how safe would you feel? Or if the funding was cut and they could not buy replacement clubs,what then?
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 16:59 other posts of huxley999 
I've explained this elsewhere, but just for you:

If you have $100 and you spend $90 on The Police, and $10 on services like mental health, drug education and homelessness and then see crime at a really high rate.

Then, you take that same $100 and spend $85 on The Police, and $15 on those other services and see crime drop by 50%.

Are you still in total opposition to defunding the Police?

If crime dropped there would also be more money available for either more Policing, or more of those other ancillary services. It's called a virtuous circle.

"Ah, but what if you don't get those amazing results, Huxley?" I hear you grunt.

Well, at least fucking try it. One guaranteed way of getting the same results over and over again is to change nothing, EVER!

By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 16:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 

CC, first let me tell you how glad I am that your son is ok.
Police brutality tends to be racial because it happens to
low income people, i.e. to blacks, refugees, Purto Ricans. It's seldom that a
CITY BANK EXECUTIVE gets roughed up. The reasons are varied. There's always one person in a powerful position that pushes it too far.
As far as doing a demonstration for a fallen officer, I don't think that would happen. The police, like the military, are expected to charge into danger and perhaps give their lives in the course of doing their duty. We honor them with a state funeral, a picture and plaque in the Sheriff's office. They chose this life. The oppressed did not.
By CountryCouple54 at 06,Jun,20 17:07 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Oh really. So the oppressed man that you speak of, turned out the way he did because of WHY? Did he not choose to drop out in the 8th grade to run the streets. Or should we blame that on the teachers? Did he not choose to sell drugs, do drugs, and be a gang banger? Or should we blame that on his parents and family. Did the oppressed man do the time because he committed the crime? Or should we blame that on the police and judges? Is the reason why the oppressed man is having a hard time getting a job because he has made these decisions on his God damn own? Or should we blame the employers? I call bullshit, the oppressed man is oppressed because he fucking chose it. He was a lazy fuck. I've worked and served with way to many of these men who made the choice to not use this bullshit as a charity excuse to be a hoodlum. But busted ass to be a productive citizen with a good job.
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 18:09 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I'm sorry. You misunderstood. What ever the oppressed man does with his life, that is his choice. I have friends that live in Liberty City. Yes, they are black. They own a modest but neat home. The oldest daughter is in college and their only son is working as an apprentice in a Ford dealership. Their whole neighborhood is the same. Nice, law abiding, people. When they got their mortgage, they had a very hard time and high rate. These people have to be careful when they leave the house. You automatically ASSUME they are bad.
Did he not choose to drop out in the 8th grade to run the streets. Or should we blame that on the teachers? Did he not choose to sell drugs, do drugs, and be a gang banger? Or should we blame that on his parents and family. Did the oppressed man do the time because he committed the crime? Or should we blame that on the police and judges?
Why is that? You worked hard for what you have. Are you a gang banger? Do you run women? Is your son dirty and takes bribes from you?
Of course not. You shoudn't ASSUME either. As a group, African Americans are socially and economically oppressed. George Floyd deserved to die. He was on drugs and had a rap sheet. Why did the cops let him out the last time?
By phart at 06,Jun,20 18:49 other posts of phart 
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Alot of this info does not relate directly to the topic at hand BUT 1 of the things Mr Sowell talks about is Lifestyle Choices.
Public education is free to the student.No reason it should even be legal to drop out much less have the option to do it for the pure hell of it.
I made it a point to take notice of the number of blacks I encountered yesteday and thier attitudes.
2 were eating breakfast at the next table over from me, we talked a bit about the food and were all laughing and cutting up with the wait staff and all was great.
1 was at tha bank window.He seemed very nervous but handled my transaction without a problem. 2 others,husband and wife I met at the hardware,both said hello how ye doin' and all was well. Not 1 of them tried to yank my Trump hat off my head or walk over to my truck and throw a bottle of gas in it to burn it.They were all decent working people .
The rioters do not represent the whole black population.But they are making it hard for alot of them as they tend to burn "Uncle Tom's " store for spite,they resent success I reckon?

By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:43 other posts of phart 
notice no reply to my message below,hum

By phart at 08,Jun,20 22:11 other posts of phart 
I think I figured out part of it.This police defund thing,has got the governments attention pulled away from stimulas packages and what not that might play a part in the economy bouncing back.Something liberal minded folks DO NOT want to happen.So what better way to divide the country and keep the economy crashed than to get the race wars back running full steam? The murder of floyd was the shot in the arm for the plan to take off.And boy has it worked to divide the country into little pie shaped peices.

By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 10:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
There are serious groups intent on violence, discord, and even civil war out thereÖbut so farÖitís the right wing that seems to be taking the lead on the violence and the weapons. I agree
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 12:32 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah like the black panthers or the black liberation army
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 12:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Arenít you a little behind the times?
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I was thinking more about the Sons of Anarchy or the KKK.
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 13:02 other posts of dgraff 
Why behind the times those are black racist groups that are still in operation
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 14:55 other posts of ANGEL1227 
The Black Liberation Army (BLA) was an underground Black Power organization that operated in the United States from 1970 to 1981. Composed entirely of Black Panthers (BPP) who served as members of both groups, the organization's program was one of war against the United States government, and its stated goal was to "take up arms for the liberation and self-determination of black people in the United States."
YOU ARE BEHIND THE TIMES BY ALMOST 40 yrs--------------------------------------- added after 4 minutesThe Black Panther Party (BPP), originally the Black Panther Party for Self-Defense, was a revolutionary socialist political organization founded by Marxist college students Bobby Seale (Chairman) and Huey Newton (Minister of Defense) in October 1966 in Oakland, California.[4][5] The party was active in the United States from 1966 until 1982, with chapters in numerous major cities, and international chapters in the United Kingdom in the early 1970s,[6] and in Algeria from 1969 to 1972.[7] At its inception on October 15, 1966,
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 16:11 other posts of dgraff 
Instead of looking up things I all ready know try looking up new black panther party or new black liberation army or black separatist nationalist hey also black riders liberation group in stead of defending them research there hate groups
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Now who is behind the times
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 17:41 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Obviously me. My apologies

By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 16:17 other posts of dgraff 
Wasnít the sons of anarchy a tv series
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 17:39 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Yes, I was waiting for you to notice

By huxley999 at 07,Jun,20 17:28 other posts of huxley999 
Given the racial climate at the time of their founding, I would only really have much of a problem with one point out of the Black Panthers' 10 point program.

If you read Herb Boyd's book about the Panthers I suspect you will come away thinking they were more wronged against than anything else. They were infiltrated by state sponsored spies and a fair number of their members were murdered by cops. Were they all faultless angels? No. Were some of them well-intentioned folk that did a lot for their communities and shifted Overton's window, when it came to race relations? Yes, undoubtedly.
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 17:46 other posts of dgraff 
I will check that out Iíve been fallowing the black movement sense the 1970s itís interesting to see how it evolved over the years and itís definitely not all one sided one of my favorite movies is American history X itís about a Nero nazi group
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 13:20 other posts of huxley999 
"Black Panthers for Beginners" written by Herb Boyd. I can thoroughly recommend it as a good starting point for reading about the movement. ISBN number: 0-86316-196-0 if you fancy buying/borrowing a copy. Pleased to hear of your interest, and agree that American History X is a great film. Ed Norton at his finest.
By phart at 08,Jun,20 13:51 other posts of phart 
I am very surprised none of you have brought up the "Bugoloo" boys or something along that line.A group of men with lime green unicorn patches on their vest toteing Ak style rifles defending protesters.
They are carrying guns,but since they are defending protesters I guess it must be ok right?
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Bunch is so confused they can't even agree on what they stand for!
I support the right to bear arms but I am stumped as to why this bunch wants violence,bearing arms is meant help you be safe and protect you from criminals and bad government.
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 14:52 other posts of huxley999 
I've mentioned Accelerationists before. Your country certainly seems to be a world leader when it comes to nutjobs.
By phart at 08,Jun,20 20:00 other posts of phart 
this is 1 time you used a word I can agree with in regards to that bunch of factory defect fruit loops.

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By Jamie at 08,Jun,20 17:26 other posts of Jamie 
Just saw a pic in syc it's gross looks like razzle was in there.
By bella! at 08,Jun,20 19:03 other posts of bella! 
C'mon! Don't be so dramatic!
By Jamie at 08,Jun,20 19:13 other posts of Jamie 
Can't help it took my glasses off so I can't see it again..
By bella! at 08,Jun,20 19:31 other posts of bella! 
Slap, slap! You are being BAD, Jamie!

By phart at 06,Jun,20 13:46 other posts of phart 
While I am at it making Huxley have to breath harder to type responses to me like "grow up buddy",.
let me get another question off my chest.
Ok so we don't want to kill someone for a simple infraction of the law.We can agree on that.
I have a couple questions actually.In asking these questions,I know policeman have written rules to go by and policys.But I want to know what the folks that support these riots and such think are the correct methods.I want to see if the answers are,"Let em steal,insurance will cover it", "let em kill we can make more babies" or something stupide like that.
1, where do you draw the line between a "simple infraction" and a act worthy of use of force?
2, what is the approved method of approaching and apprending a criminal?
I know it is wrong to kill a man for near nothing,never said it was.But to read what I have to day here on the net,not just here, you would think that a cop is supposed to help the looters tote stuff out! I mean there has been a line,Don't steal as in loot,don't kill.as in don't kill your neighbor or the cop trying to arrest you,don't commit arson,as in burning your neighbors bussiness to the ground,and that line just keeps getting moved back.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 14:58 other posts of huxley999 
It's probably mean to answer a question with another question, but: who are these "folks that support these riots"?

I don't. I support the right to peaceful protest and taking non-violent, direct action.

The answer(s) to law-breaking is complicated. Property can be replaced, human lives cannot. The Police SHOULD police by consent. If you have renegades (or bad apples, or whatever you want to call them) that kneel on a guy's neck until he's dead, that makes "policing by consent" SO much harder. You need professionals, with cool heads, to make judgements on the appropriate policing of any particular situation. You DON'T need glib soundbites, or threats of escalating the violence

OK, answers to your numbered questions:

1) Proportionate response. Offences don't fall on one side or the other of some imaginary line that divides simple infraction from acts worthy of the use of force. Well- trained, and well-disciplined, Police officers will get the response right more often than not. We also don't expect Police Officers to be perfect. We do, however, expect them to be properly disciplined when they transgress.

2) I don't know!! Having said that, if you have decent info about the nature of the alleged crime you can also try having a proportionate method. I probably have a skewed view of American policing, but the default approach seems to be to draw your gun, bellow at the suspect to get on the ground, then (too often) open fire. If you've been called to a report of teenagers putting up graffiti, I would suggest a more "gentle" approach would be apt. Again, the right training would seem to be the most appropriate method of getting it right. Bear in mind also that, until you have been through the process, the person you are approaching is a SUSPECT (NOT a criminal).

I can't really comment on stuff you've read elsewhere, but I suspect you are gilding the lily a bit when you say that "a cop is supposed to help the looters"! I'll resist the temptation to tell you to grow up again, but Ö REALLY??
By phart at 06,Jun,20 15:49 other posts of phart 
I am trying to get a feel for what others think about all this.If a cop ask a criminal to drop the gun,put his hands up,and the criminal does not,what is the correct response?
Helping the looters was a strectch of course but where I am going is the cop should not have to sit down and beg the criminal to stop,put up his hands and so on.And there has always been part of the problem. Suspect,if a man is standing there with a bloody knife,chances are he just stabbed some one or something.No suspecting needed.
The folks that support the riots? The same folks that think the police should not be there protecting people and property and want to defund them to make it so.
The peaceful "protest" are the beginnings of most of the riots.The protesters may not want to stoop to the level of doing evil,but don't do anything to slow it down much either.Oh now I have read of a couple cases where the protesters WERE trying to convince rioters to stop,but few and far between.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 16:04 other posts of huxley999 
I think I've pretty much said my piece.

I know some of you think the 2nd amendment is untouchable, but how about making it less likely that criminals have a gun in the first place?

Non-lethal force?

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The guy with the bloody knife may be the victim, who has been stabbed but managed to grab the knife from his assailant.

Defunding is, in my opinion, worthy of consideration. It doesn't mean what Scorps made out, and if you can find me one person who promotes defunding AND is pro-rioting I'll eat my fucking hat.

The answer is NOT, as you seem to be implying, to take away the right to peaceful protest away just because it MIGHT lead to rioting.
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 17:13 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Huxley, you just touched the third rail of American politics

I know some of you think the 2nd amendment is untouchable, but how about making it less likely that criminals have a gun in the first place?

Non-lethal force?


By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 17:04 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, I am trying to get a feel for what others think about all this.If a cop ask a criminal to drop the gun,put his hands up,and the criminal does not,what is the correct response?
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The folks that support the riots? The same folks that think the police should not be there protecting people and property and want to defund them to make it so.
The peaceful "protest" are the beginnings of most of the riots.
By phart at 06,Jun,20 18:55 other posts of phart 
Well it might very well put the pandemic into the most vulnerable race in the next week or 2.We will see just how contagious it is when all them go home for fried chicken at grandmas on sunday.
It is annoying as hell that for 2 months or more we couldn't go eat at the resturant,we couldn't do a damn thing hardly because of a virus.We lost part of the income of the RNC because of the virus and the number of people involved. But when the protest and Riots started,instead of sending them home packing like they did folks at the beachs and such,they sat back and let it roll.More of that double standard thing.
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 19:54 other posts of ANGEL1227 
No, Phart, social distancing has always been a choice. Regulating it has been a nightmare. The demonstrations make it worse

By huxley999 at 07,Jun,20 07:41 other posts of huxley999 
"all them go home for fried chicken at grandmas on sunday"? "all THEM"?

You make it fucking hard for me not to think you're a racist, phart. Can you not see that comment is unpleasant, racial stereotyping? You're emphasising difference by using the word "them". They are us - fellow human beings.

My heart bleeds that you couldn't go to a restaurant for 2 months - what a terrible injustice for you to suffer. Probably just as bad as having your neck knelt on, huh?

Who are the "they", that "sat back and let it roll"? From what I've seen there's been some pretty rough policing of some of the protests. I've seen cops in full riot gear charging protestors, and the media, on a pretty regular basis over the last few days. They didn't seem to be "sitting back and letting it roll" to me. They certainly didn't let the folk in Lafayette Park off with a "sit back and let it roll" approach, when the big, orange fuckwit wanted to pose with a Bible did they? Don't let facts stand in the way of your world view, will you! FFS dude.
By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:35 other posts of phart 
IF you got off your ass and came to the south,when the churchs that are primarly black have any kind of gathering,FRIED CHICKEN is the largest words on the sign.It is not racist to mention they like fried chicken.And 1 of many good things of the black people is that the family does gather and spend time together. In a case like with the virus this could be their downfall.
Preachers are also known for visiting church memebers on sunday after noons that they know they cook good chicken,of all races.
Not every fucking thing is racist,it is normal and natural.

I said them,you say that we are all humans,get THEM to understand that.IF The protesters felt the way you say we all should,then the blm thing would not even be a issue would it?? UH??
By huxley999 at 08,Jun,20 13:15 other posts of huxley999 
You know what, phart? I'm not fucking PBS America - if you can't see things it's not my job to illuminate stuff for you. You can't see your racism and you can't seem to understand why BLM is NOT exclusive. I don't think you're smart enough to be being obtuse on purpose. You are just ill-informed and will NOT be persuaded. Maybe that TBI was more profound than I thought.

Read a book, join a library, watch non-fiction stuff on TV. I'm done, for now at least, with pointing out where you're being dumb. Stay safe.

By phart at 08,Jun,20 11:06 other posts of phart 
police by consent,
"Sir,it is unlawful for you to take those tennis shoes,May I arrest you?"
"Sir it is unlawful to take a life,may I arrest you?"
How well would that work?
Property can be replaced? At who's exspense and if not taken or distroyed in the first place would not HAVE TO BE replaced.

By dgraff at 06,Jun,20 21:29 other posts of dgraff 
First of all in the middle of a pandemic every one of the protesters are breaking the law no masks and no social distances they should have all been arrested
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I hope the corona virus kills them all
By bella! at 06,Jun,20 21:36 other posts of bella! 
Oh, dgraff, you do not mean that.
By dgraff at 06,Jun,20 22:23 other posts of dgraff 
Your right Bella I donít mean that Iím just frustrated I want this pandemic to end and the protests are not helping one bit
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 08:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Why is that Dgraff? You can't ride your Harley around town? You can't show off what a macho man you are? It's so hard to satay at home instead of getting your neck permanently massaged
By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 09:06 other posts of dgraff 
WHAT pray tell does anything you just said have to do with anything
Our motorcycle club does benefit rides to raise money for things like muscular dystrophy kidís with cancer and many other things so if thatís riding around town being macho then so be it you seem to have the idea that all bikers are trash and I have not stayed home through the whole pandemic Iím still working every single day as we repair many fire trucks police cars and ambulances every year and as far as a neck massage I donít have time for pampering myself
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 09:34 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff.....Iím just frustrated I want this pandemic to end

Angel.......Why is that Dgraff? You can't ride your Harley around town? You can't show off what a macho man you are?

By dgraff at 07,Jun,20 09:58 other posts of dgraff 
Iím bitching about all the protesters this kind of behavior should not be they had one in the city of Lebanon last Thursday but it didnít even last an hour before the streets were cleared now that is how you handle an up rising
By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 10:02 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You call it an uprising. Most of the country calls it a protest. Lebanon is like a pimple in an elephant's ass. No one cares, least of all, the elephant
By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:40 other posts of phart 
I was already tired of hearing about the damn virus everytime I turn on the news,now I am fed up with having to watch video of riots in OTHER COUNTRYS that what happens here is really none of their affair.
I am sick of reading about the violence,I am sick of hard working people loosing everything to the looters.Folks that do work and those of us that did while we could paid taxes and we all vote,We didn't vote for people in government to cave in to demands to defund our police to leave us even more vunerable to crime. We DO have the right to bitch.Just as you have the right to find fault with every other word someone says.
By ANGEL1227 at 08,Jun,20 07:34 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Please, is there someone on site that might be able to explain to Phart what these demonstrations all over the world is all about?

By phart at 06,Jun,20 21:48 other posts of phart 
I wish death on none of them.But Even Al Sharpton didn't set a good example thursday himself.
The virus they will be carrying home to the older 1's that have health issues already.
I can't imagine what is going thru their minds.They literally could be bringing about their own genecide.

By phart at 07,Jun,20 23:58 other posts of phart 
so defunding police means when I call 911 I will have a longer list of questions perhaps? Do you feel suicidal? do you want a counseler? Are you lonely do you need a big sister or big brother to come by and comfort you? what is your name,age address ,shoe size,etc?" "No mam, I have been shot and I just returned fire in self defense,send a ambulance!"
"Sir ,is the person you shot bleeding? are they having breathing problems? Did you not realize he just wanted to rob you so he could buy some candy for his kids?How dare you shoot a armed robber in your house,this 911 call will be used as evidence to convict you of murder,

Ok,so some of that was a bit off,but do we really want a 911 service that does not send out people to protect us from harm?Who will protect us if police are disbanded,which is being discussed?

By JustWill at 07,Jun,20 16:25 other posts of JustWill 
I believe that the United States should enact a law which mandates that every male citizen, upon reaching puberty, must get a vasectomy.

This would enable American guys to have as much sex with women as they want, without the potential consequence of an unwanted pregnancy.

Later in life, if the guy decides that he wants to father children--and has a willing partner in that endeavor--he can have the vasectomy reversed.

With the exceptions of pregnancy by r@pe or ince$t, or that of life-threatening harm to the mother if she carries the child to full term, that should put an end to almost all abortions!

Problem solved!
You're welcome.
By bella! at 07,Jun,20 16:40 other posts of bella! 
Every male or just the card carrying straight guys?
By huxley999 at 07,Jun,20 17:19 other posts of huxley999 
Serendipitous side-effect: far fewer Americans!
By JustWill at 07,Jun,20 17:51 other posts of JustWill 
Not so.
We will do as we have done from the very beginning and import new Americans from elsewhere.

By JustWill at 07,Jun,20 17:49 other posts of JustWill 
All of them.
Everyone should be equal under the law.

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By bella! at 07,Jun,20 21:42 other posts of bella! 
So JustWill didn't come up with a new idea relating to men and their inability to impregnate women? All these years that I thought he had ideas that would become reality!

By Scorps at 06,Jun,20 04:05 other posts of Scorps 
A sane voice amid disturbing times. Worth watching!
Someone that REALLY gives a shit about ALL lives...

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⚠️WARNING⚠️ This video may completely be staged too, right!
As it doesn't fit the "systemic racism" narrative OR those that want to promote division between blacks and whites and or blacks and cops.

Go ahead, excoriate her for her views. I dare you!
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Sickening how the loudest voice is most likely a "white privileged" (like that? That's BLM, ANTIFA style language) person arguing with her. I suppose it would be easier to try to run her off instead of look in the mirror and realize you're despicable.
They call black conservative men Uncle Tom's, what do they call a black chick?
By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 11:05 other posts of JustWill 
Speaking of "sane voices":

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I am sure this will make some people's heads explode, and it does require the viewer to have a modicum of empathy and an open mind, but it's worth a shot.

By bella! at 06,Jun,20 13:09 other posts of bella! 
I tend to shut down, turn off, fall deaf when people resort to shouting. Same principle with regard to the forum and the name calling.

Yes, all lives matter. Yes, black commit crimes against black as white commit crimes against white and as police will inflict unnecessary "punishment" on people of all color.

And a white police officer was in the news this time for pushing down a 75 year old white protester.

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By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 13:29 other posts of huxley999 
I could, literally, only watch Scorps' clip up to the point where it descends into:

"Make me go"
"Make me go"

If she's the "sane voice" you're in bigger trouble than I thought.
By bella! at 06,Jun,20 13:35 other posts of bella! 
The entire altercation was outrageous and I didn't like that the white woman referred to the black woman, several times, as "sister soul".

By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 13:37 other posts of JustWill 
All the clip really proves is that it is possible for a black person to miss the point as well.
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It makes me sad that it has to be explained to anyone, but "Black Lives Matter" doesn't mean that they are the only lives that matter.
It means that, for far too long in this country, black lives have been treated as though they mattered LESS.

Anyone who can't see that is not playing with a full deck. (huxley, that's American vernacular for "crazy" ).
By Scorps at 07,Jun,20 03:51 other posts of Scorps 
So, let me get this straight. You're suggesting that this particular "black person" (and many many more like her/them) has missed the point. What point is that? You go on to explain that, "for far too long, in this country, black lives have been treated as though they have mattered less". Interesting and certainly worth discussing.

The name of the group itself, is an affront to many Americans. But that's not ok, right! Accept it or you're a fucking racist, right? Dissention or differing views on ANY given matter is not allowed or tolerated. Minimizing a person or even a segment of the population, their beliefs, and or intelligence is a must! All in the name of... It simply doesn't fit my/our narrative. A NORMAL PERSON, when hearing a wannabe supposed legitimate group, such as B.L.M. chanting death to white people and or the police, even America itself (to which I will admit I may have my wires crossed but I don't think so), recognize that, that sort of language should not be accepted by ANY sane person, period! It's NOT ok, and I and many more like me, refuse to give legitimacy to such and ignorant group. We are all Americans here and should be united as such. Not divided either way, such as a black life is no more important or less important as a white one, Mexican one, Chinese one, etc. All lives matter, except of course, one in the womb.

The despicable treatment of George Floyd and his death at the hands of a potentially power crazed, sadistic police officer has certainly, if nothing else, untied Americans together unlike any other incident in recent memory. No single person has come out to say (at least to my knowledge) that any part of that was acceptable.

In this ultra uniting moment, we have to hear how racist America and police officers are, OR how police brutality in general is rampant and out of control, ESPECIALLY against anyone that's not white. Instead of using this moment to bring some sort of good to his unfortunate death, we get spoon fed condoned violence, destruction, more deaths and race dividing rhetoric. If you don't just roll over and accept those consequences, because of the actions of a few, yes, a few, you are in fact, a RACIST! That just makes this situation even more sad and unfortunate and to many, infuriating.

Lastly, not everyone was dealt the hand of JustWill and may never be quite as intelligent as you believe you are. Therefore, there are millions playing with less of a deck than you do, clearly, and I amongst many others certainly must be one of them. Because afterall, my/our opinions, thoughts, feelings, logic, must not be accepted because they are flawed.

There's only one acceptable narrative right!? America and a vast majority of Americans are inherently racist end of story. Hell, according to Joe Biden 10 to 15 percent of Americans are "bad people". That works out to what, 30, 40 million people? He might just be right or is that number greater? Hillary said 50% were deplorables. We may just never know.
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By JustWill at 07,Jun,20 10:50 other posts of JustWill 
Okay, Scorps, I'm bored, so I'll play:

First, let me point out that the "quite as intelligent as you BELIEVE YOU ARE" (CAPS are mine) bit was a tad hurtful. My intelligence is not a matter of BELIEF. It just is what it is.(Which is true for everyone. Some have it, some don't).
I am sorry that my intellect makes you feel inferior in some way. That was never my intent. I can't help it that I am smart, and I won't apologize for it, but I am sorry that you feel...less smart...because of me.

It must be hard for you (and folk like you) to have to spend every day feeling discriminated against because you are different. To be treated as though you were less of a person because you lack a certain quality merely because of a fluke of Nature. I mean, you were dealt a specific intellectual capacity by the whims of biology, and that isn't your fault.
It would be unjust for those of us with better brains to discriminate against your kind(you know...not give you access to good jobs, health care, a great education, equality under the law, fair housing practices...things like that) due to this trait that was f0rced upon you.

I understand that living your entire life in this type of unjust and discriminatory society might make you and your kind incredibly angry. Perhaps what you need is a slogan; something to point out to the world that you are tired of having to live in a society which treats you unfairly simply because you are less...bright...than the people in charge.


Now, I know you are probably thinking: If we use that slogan, won't people think that we are saying that ONLY dumb brains matter?

Of course not! We didn't put the word ONLY in our slogan for that very reason. Anyone with a jot of intelligence will understand that ALL brains matter, That goes without saying. Only a true idiot (no offense intended) would think otherwise. Or, perhaps, someone who willfully misinterprets our slogan to suit their own agenda (like, maybe, one of those SMART people who just don't want to give your kind a fair shake).

Give it a try. Rise up in protest. Perhaps it will create an "ultra uniting moment" that will change things for your people...

Two final things:
1.How sad for you that you find a group of people proclaiming that their lives matter to be an "affront". Shame on them for making you feel less special and not included! (Look up the definition of IRONY)

2. Hillary didn't say 50% of Americans where a "basket of deplorables", she said 50% of TRUMP SUPPORTERS were. That's a totally different number. While she shouldn't have said that (out loud), I honestly haven't seen much evidence these last three plus years to prove her wrong. Present circumstances being a fine example.

Okay, I lied.
There are THREE final things:

3. You aren't racist because you have opinions. You are racist because you have RACIST opinions. There is a difference.
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Dammit! FOUR things, I meant to say four:

4. You keep tossing that "in the womb" stuff into your posts on this subject. Stop it. It is not relevant.
But: A woman should have total say about what happens to her body. Because it is HER body. When you grow a womb of your own, then your opinion will have some value on that subject.

And here's number five (just because I feel like it):

5. I have never heard a supporter of Black Lives Matter shouting "Death to White People" or "Death to America". That has pretty much been coming from terrorists of the pseudo-Islamic variety. I know that the majority of them have skin tones in the brown to black range, and that might be confusing to folk like you, but they are not the same as the BLM people.

By Scorps at 07,Jun,20 02:51 other posts of Scorps 
It's always a great idea to poo poo a successful self made black woman as a lunatic or some kinda heretic. Yeah, she's cra cra, annoying, and should have just complied with the very first "go"! Tuck her tail, turn around and just leave cause let's face it lady, YOUR opinion/views are insignificant, unwanted, unwarranted, unimportant, and most importantly doesn't fit the narrative that all us protesters are out here for. Now go! Get out of here! And she should have dutifully complied, right!?

BTW The "mostly peaceful protesters" were given curfews in an attempt to stem the violence, looting, rioting, burning, etc. what happened when they were told to "go"? Many threw things at the police, and lashed out. Now that! That's justifiable behavior by "mostly peaceful protesters". What did you expect her to say or do? Ok! I'm gonna leave now so my voice will most certainly not be heard. Riiiight!

As far as me being in trouble or even troubled. If that's your opinion of me, so be it, your most definitely entitled to YOUR opinion.
By huxley999 at 07,Jun,20 06:43 other posts of huxley999 
Nah, fuck you and your putting of words into my mouth. I did NOT call her a lunatic, a heretic or annoying. Both sides (BOTH!) shouting at each other made it impossible to stick with your clip. The right to peaceful protest applies to both sides, but it doesn't mean I have to listen to it. She can stay on that street corner and shout at people from dusk till dawn, as far as I'm concerned.

Why have you put "mostly peaceful protestors" in quotation marks, fuckwit? Who are you quoting?

"Many threw things at the police, and lashed out" - if you want me to comment you will have to tell me what demonstration you're talking about. If you can find me ONE post where I have tried to justify people throwing stuff at the Police I'll eat my hat, and yours for good measure.

The interesting thing for me is that you have proposed NOTHING, as far as I can see, to deal with the substantive issue. Fine words about "using this moment to bring some sort of good to his unfortunate death". How would YOU propose to do that? I may be doing you a disservice, but all I've seen, from you, is naysaying that the US has massive problems with racism and policing. You've misunderstood, then dismissed, defunding the Police so resources can be used in a different way and thrown in your views on abortion. I also suspect that you would like, as your beloved POTUS seems to like, a massive focus on law and order to crush dissent. I would suggest that none of that actually helps find a long-term, sustainable resolution to the anger that so many of your fellow citizens feel.

By Scorps at 07,Jun,20 02:25 other posts of Scorps 
she was shouting to be HEARD. She did NOT have a megaphone and was trying to get her opinion/views heard by as many as possible within such a large crowd and just perhaps with a modicum of passion added. It wasn't intended to be a one on one conversation or she just may have spoke normally. Consequently, she did do an interview where she wasn't shouting.
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By bella! at 07,Jun,20 13:49 other posts of bella! 
My opinion, the first woman with a Jamaican accent sounded angry and loud and not someone I cared to listen to.

Ms. Owens seemed to do the homework in order to present "her truth" in a manner which was conducive to listening to. In fact, I will probably listen to her again.

By ANGEL1227 at 07,Jun,20 11:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Great white shark kills surfer off Australia's New South Wales
Surfer was demonstrating for BLACK LIVES MATTER. Shark was hungry
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By phart at 03,Jun,20 15:55 other posts of phart 
I won't type much but this photo I found says alot.

Why is it only 1 of these incidents lead to riots,looting and so on? Are we not supposed to be equal? Was that not the scope of all the actions taken by the government back in the 60's?
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So he was positive for the virus,and was under the influence of a powerful pain killer that has all kinds of side effects.
By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 10:58 other posts of huxley999 
Do you REALLY think that says a lot?

Sadly, abuse takes place frequently in (so-called) care situations. There IS outrage about it and, changes are made. Not fast enough - granted. It's truly horrible what that guy did.

On the other hand: we have a cop killing a black man by kneeling on his neck. This happens in a Nation with deep-seated race relations problems, with a POTUS who has an indelicate touch when dealing with matters of this kind. A Nation where the descendants of slaves live alongside the descendants of slave owners, or people who directly benefitted from slavery. Within living memory you have segregation, Jim Crow laws, Rosa Parks, assassinations of Black leaders (Malcolm X, Martin Luther King et al) and those advocating for equal rights (Bobby Kennedy). Your life chances, as a Black American, are worse than if you are a Caucasian American. Your chances of being pulled over by the police are greater if you're black. Your chances of being incarcerated are greater if you're black.

No matter whether you have/had Covid 19, and no matter what medication you are taking, you shouldn't be fucking murdered by a cop! Nor should 3 other cops watch their colleague murder a guy, and not intervene.

The reason one leads to riots and looting is because of the facts I have iterated above, the resorting to threats of further violence by your fuckwit POTUS, AND because there are bad people in this world who will break the law if they see an opportunity to do so. Deal with the lawbreakers by all means, but (just a thought) maybe deal with the underlying problems your Nation has with race as well and DON'T break up peaceful protests so you can pose for a photo op with a fucking Bible in your hand!

I have a horrible suspicion that all of this, to some extent, plays into Trump's hands. If you see legislation coming down the track that limits the free press, puts further checks on social media, gives the police/military excessive powers, or (here's the clincher) delays democratic elections don't be too surprised my American cousins.
By bella! at 04,Jun,20 12:23 other posts of bella! 
You know, this quotation is part of OUR Declaration of Independence, penned in 1776, "all men are created equal".
By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 13:21 other posts of huxley999 
So, 244 years later: how far along the road of making that ring true do you think the US has come?

Thomas Paine is one of my own (somewhat flawed) personal heroes. I wonder what he would think of where the US finds itself today.

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The bit that jumps out, for me, is:

Many important civil rights leaders have used the phrase ďall men are created equalĒ to demand equality for all. One of the many leaders who used this phrase in a famous speech was Martin Luther King. He used this phrase in his I Have A Dream speech (1963): ďI have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: ĎWe hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal.íĒ He would argue that ďall men are created equalĒ did not encompass African Americans. His speech took place before the Civil Rights Act of 1964, and it was still legal to discriminate on the basis of race. Dr. King would argue that this would present a challenge to ďall men created equal,Ē because African Americans were not ensured the same rights and privileges as white Americans. President John F. Kennedy also used this phrase to demand equality in a speech entitled ďFor What We FightĒ: ďIt was founded on the principle that all men are created equal, and that the rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.Ē He would agree with King in saying that in the 1960s, the phrase had still not yet encompassed African Americans, so it could not truly mean ďallĒ men.

Let's hope the imminent Memorial Service in Minneapolis is peaceful and constructive, and that your great Nation can move towards fulfilling that admirable sentiment of all men being created equal. Stay safe.

By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 13:50 other posts of huxley999 
I hope this link works:

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Just in case I came across as somehow "smug" that the UK has a better race relations reputation than the US. Akala is a very interesting guy, with views that are truly thought-provoking.

By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 15:13 other posts of JustWill 
Keep in mind that, when that "all men are created equal" bit was written, SOME men (and women and children) here were OWNED by other men.
That doesn't seem very "equal", does it?
SAYING that people are "equal" is MUCH different than actually TREATING them as equals.
The problem here in the US is that we have been SAYING "you're equal" for decade upon decade, but the equal TREATMENT part has never really been happening.
What puzzles me is how the people on the RIGHT can have the audacity to express SURPRISE that some of those supposedly "equal" people have had enough and are taking to the streets in Constitutionally protected protest.
(Yes, Rioting and Looting are WRONG, but PROTESTING is a RIGHT)

By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 15:20 other posts of ANGEL1227 
And, yet, it was written in a time where the writers of the Constitution owned slaves. It's a nice thought, but, even in a very progressive society, it will work in some cases. The rich will be better served than the poor.

By phart at 04,Jun,20 15:09 other posts of phart 
The hypocricy is what I feel like the photo explains.
No 1 gives a damn about a supposedly ill husky black male BEATiNG a elderly verteran in a place he should be safe.
Covid 19 or wuhan,if that man was sick with it,how the hell did he have the strength to beat anyone AND steal from them?
But just as you so well shared the opionion,nurseing home abuse just happens, accept it and go on.
BOTH are wrong,but no 1 gives a damn about black on white violence.it doesn't make the papers.
As for the desendants thing,I want repreations for the finacial losses my family suffered because of the carpet baggers that came to the south to shit the southern people out of everything they had.
Average slave cost about 3000 dollar THEN. most southern people could not afford that. Plantation owners actually would rent slaves or would swap labor,example,we pick my cotton today,and pick yours tommorow. Poor white people just had to do for themselves. My mother picked and hoed cotton and she was white back in the 40's during WW2, so it was not a black only job.
By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 15:33 other posts of JustWill 
phart--you folks are spinning and twisting and double-talking in order to justify the MURDER of a HUMAN BEING.
How is it that passing a bad $20 bill is a crime worthy of the death penalty?
Your mother may have "picked and hoed cotton", but nobody OWNED her while she was doing it. You are using a false equivalence.
Black on white violence ALWAYS makes the papers that I read. Stop pretending that none of that is reported. (They also report White on Brown crimes, and Yellow on Red, and Blue on Green, too!)
And, what does Nursing Home abuse have to do with a cop murdering a man in his custody?
The "hypocrisy" is that you THINK the photo you posted justifies your position, but it is, in fact, totally off the mark.
NO ONE is saying that ALL cops or white people are bad. What they ARE saying is that BLACK (and Brown and Yellow and Red) people are not consistently treated fairly by EITHER group.

By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 15:34 other posts of huxley999 
Bollocks, yet again phart.

I did NOT say just accept it and go on.

As an aside, for someone who claims not to recognise race you're damn keen to point out that it's a black guy abusing the guy in the home.

You're bringing up "repreations" (sic)? Presumably then you'd be 100% in favour of reparations for the descendants of slaves? Let's just park that one.

Just like your "fit enough to riot, fit enough to vote in person" nonsense you are trying to draw a false equivalence.
You can be outraged at both events - however, only one has had the effect of making people question how much longer they are prepared to put up with institutional racism.

It's like saying: "How dare you complain about Americans having to rely on Foodbanks when there are people starving in Yemen?". It's possible to have a view on BOTH, and they are not substantively linked in any way.

Other than them being acts of violence, what is there in common in the 2 pictures that someone has clumsily juxtaposed and added a glib soundbite to? Not much.

I fear you're trying to distract from the very real (and grim) situation your Nation finds itself in. Scroll up and see what JustWill has said. If abuses in care homes were as widespread as racism is, in the US, there probably WOULD be protests and possibly even rioting.

The fact that you're descended from poor white folk is, frankly, irrelevant. It does interest me though, but purely on a personal level. It adds little or nothing to the subject at hand.

PS. I DO give a damn about black on white violence. I give a damn about ALL violence.
By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 15:43 other posts of JustWill 
huxley--another common trope the Right continues to trot out is that, because so many Irish immigrants came to America as indentured servants, "there were far more white slaves owned in America than there were black slaves".
Because, you know, being indentured is exactly like being owned and...um...that makes it all better.
By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 16:39 other posts of huxley999 
I'd not heard that one before - cool fact!

I'd value your opinion: there are clearly really bright people who are extremely right wing. Do you think they engage in cognitive dissonance?

Like your example: if you trot that out, but you're intelligent enough to know it's BS, how do you reconcile it to yourself? Or are you a sociopath? I'm genuinely puzzled.
By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 17:33 other posts of JustWill 
If I understand the concept of Cognitive Dissonance correctly (it has been years since my last psychology class, so I might be a bit off on my recollection), it would require that some small part of the person understands that what they are doing/saying/thinking is wrong, but they choose to rationalize their behavior in order to feel okay with it.

If that understanding is correct, then I am sure that cognitive dissonance plays a part with a limited number of right wing individuals. However, I think that far too many of the folk in question haven't the slightest doubt that what they believe is the only TRUTH.

They cling so tightly to their chosen beliefs that all contradictory evidence--no matter how grounded in reality and fact--must be regarded as a lie.

This need to disregard fact has given rise to the "Fake News" phenomenon. Anything that supports their tightly held beliefs, no matter that it is cut from whole cloth, MUST be true. Any fact which contradicts said beliefs is, by their reasoning, obviously a lie.

When they use "facts" like the example I gave, they truly believe that it is NOT BS. They have no doubt.
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In the case of die-hard Trump supporters, I believe that there are two categories:

Those who bought an ugly pig and didn't realize the magnitude of its hideousness at the time of purchase, but are going to support their pig because admitting they were in error at the out set would cause them shame. (A very small group)

Those that truly believe that the pig is the most beautiful pig to ever walk the Earth. By nature of its transcendent beauty, all things said and done by the pig are perfect. This is basically because they held the same beliefs that the pig exemplified from the very start. They will not be swayed from their devotion to the pig. (this is the largest group)
By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 05:41 other posts of huxley999 
Thanks for your observations JustWill - the pig analogy made me smile, both because it's "earthy" and because it seems likely to be accurate.

That trend to dismiss anything that contradicts your own views, and especially the "fake news" card, is worrying - to say the least. You'll have seen SrCums use that one, on me, a few times. Frustrating when you provide, what you feel is, pretty sound evidence to show X is true and the only response is to rubbish the source. As an ardent empiricist I relish being shown new data, even when that contradicts what I had previously believed. Stay safe.
By JustWill at 05,Jun,20 07:52 other posts of JustWill 
Here's another fun "fact" from the Right:

"Racism had been almost totally eradicated in this country until Barack Obama became President."

According to the Right, America was virtually racism-free, with all people being treated fairly and equally...and then the black guy ruined it.

By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 17:59 other posts of JustWill 
There was a time, not so very long ago, when a woman was shot and killed by an illeg@l immigrant (in San Francisco?).
The Trump supporters used this as their rallying cry and as "proof" that ALL ILLEGALS were thugs and murderers, and that building a wall was the only way to save the lives of our women folk!

When we pointed out then that "one doesn't represent all", we were told that we were libtard snowflakes for believing that.

Odd how you are only now seeing our point.
By phart at 04,Jun,20 20:20 other posts of phart 
Oddly Republicans and Trump supporters weren't out in the streets burning churches and stores and looting either.
I hired a damn new york yankee for a President.I knew he was no saint,but MY GOD did you see the other 1?
I typed up alot and it disappeared!
Fucking thing,
anyhow, Did anyone watch Al on tv preaching the funeral?
NOT wearing a mask? the virus,Um,what happened to it? in 2 weeks are we going to have a huGE case count?
By JustWill at 04,Jun,20 21:11 other posts of JustWill 
Neither were the protesters.
What's your point?

The Republicans and Trump just put babies in cages. (You don't have to say it, we know: They were BROWN babies, so they belong in cages!)
By kebmo at 05,Jun,20 01:14 other posts of kebmo 
JustWill, there were protests in 16 Canadian cities (Americans wouldn't have heard about them because we weren't burning our cities) for a few days and with the exception of Montreal one night they were generally very peaceful with respect shown by the police to the protesters and by the protesters to the police.
When I watched the news I noticed that most of these protesters were wearing masks, probably because when they left home they knew that social distancing wasn't a reasonable expectation.
Common sense.
By JustWill at 05,Jun,20 08:04 other posts of JustWill 
Canadians would get more news coverage if they just burned a city or two. Honestly, this whole "Canadians are nice, polite people" thing is a bit suspicious.
What are you REALLY up to, Canada?

The difference between our country and yours, my friend, is that our "leader" has fanned the flames of division since the beginning of his political career (even before that, actually, but fewer people paid any attention to him back then).
Trump feeds "red meat" to his supporters, and he thrives on the disharmony it causes.
As a result, many Americans are harboring a great deal of pent-up anger and frustration. Much of the chaos the World is seeing from the States recently is a result of that rage boiling over.
I am not making an excuse for the chaos, I am merely pointing out a possible cause.
By kebmo at 05,Jun,20 15:14 other posts of kebmo 
JustWill, Rainforests matter. That statement doesn't mean that boreal forests don't matter does it?
By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 13:50 other posts of JustWill 
It does if you are a pine tree that is afraid that a palm tree is going to be treated as an equal.

By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 05:58 other posts of huxley999 
Yo phart - how can you be so sure that Trump supporters/Republicans weren't involved in law-breaking?

They are criminals and opportunists, yes?
Some might not even give a shit about BLM, but just want to grab a big TV, right?
But they're ALL Democrats? Give me a fucking break.

As for Al Sharpton: from the clip I've seen it looks like social distancing was (at least partially) being observed.

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Wearing a mask has also got questionable efficacy anyway. Sorry to throw Science at you!

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As a side-note: it would be nice (and refreshing) if you were even-handed when it comes to criticising protestors.

What about these guys, then:

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But I guess you will, somehow, excuse their behaviour and continue to criticise BLM protestors? That partisanship and cognitive dissonance is, in my humble opinion, part of the problem the US has: rampant tribalism that obstructs any real progress on the issues that, undoubtedly, the US has. Stay safe.
By phart at 05,Jun,20 10:14 other posts of phart 
Where is the justice for the vicutms of the Great Shoot out at Miramar, Fla in 2019?

Frank OrdoŮez and Rick Cutshaw
The chief thought his men did a great job.200 rounds fired into a aluminum fish tank,some thru the roof for Gods sake.Only 130 rounds were fired as the law murdered Bonnie and clyde.
No buildings burned,no fighting,no rioting.
NO one seems to care being they were not BLACK.But it was police violence against citizens,the very thing that happened to Mr Floyd.
This is the hypocrisy I am trying to get you hard heads to see but you are blinded by all this media bias.
By the way, no work boots were stolen by the looters!What does that tell you? Apparently none of the looters WORk,
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By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 10:38 other posts of huxley999 
You keep throwing up stuff not directly related to the CURRENT state of play in the US, phart.

I had to google the Miramar shootout. Sounds to me like trigger-happy, fuckwit cops lost control of the situation completely with terrible consequences. I hope those found guilty of using excessive force, or acting with reckless disregard for the safety of the public, had the full force of the law brought down upon them. I care, phart. Trust me - I do. I also have to throw in that an armed populace (the glorious 2nd amendment) and a routinely-armed Police force will inevitably lead to tragedies like Miramar.

It was NOT "the very thing that happened to Mr Floyd". You're either being deliberately dim, or you genuinely cannot see the difference between a shootout between robbers and the Police when compared to a single, black guy having a cop kneel on his neck until he is fucking DEAD. All this after he had pleaded with the pig, telling him he couldn't breath. By the way: have you now accepted that it's possible to vocalise even when you are being suffocated? You let that one drop rather quietly in another discussion!

Media bias, my arse!
I have watched unedited footage from the US over the last few days. I can turn the commentary OFF and see with my own, fucking eyes what's happening. Your gung-ho POTUS, with all his talk of "law and order", emboldens cops (like the 2 fuckwits in Buffalo who pushed over a Senior) to behave in the way they do. If his rhetoric was less inflammatory I believe cooler heads could find a way to extinguish the flames of protest/violence rather than fanning them.

Even when the big, orange buffoon TRIES to do the right thing he fucks it up:

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By bella! at 05,Jun,20 12:06 other posts of bella! 
phart, were you aware that the bottom corner picture does not depict a crime of black on white, it's black on black! Mr. Norman Bledsoe happens to be a light complected African-American.
By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 12:36 other posts of huxley999 
You think phart will care about FACTS?

I have no idea how the dear chap will respond, if at all, but I'm ever-hopeful that my daily belly-laugh will come along soon.

Maybe phart will remind me that I would be speaking German, if US veterans hadn't ÖÖÖÖÖÖÖ.. blah, blah, blah!

Or maybe it will be "what about justice for all the descendants of members of the 7th Cavalry killed at Little Bighorn?" That would be equally relevant!!
By phart at 05,Jun,20 13:38 other posts of phart 
To qoute you Hux, FUCK YOU! .
But at the same time,what is the difference between cops killing 4 men,2 of them innocent,and cops killing 1 man? 3 more lives were lost.
At least you did notice the Trump speach keeps getting taken down. Media not biased? Yea right,tell me another joke.
As for the "current state of play" here in the US, you don't think this shit just started with the death of Floyd do you? Civil rights and fights and police brutality started along time ago.This "current state of play" has a large foundation of history.Go back and you will see that it is nothing new.What took so fucking long to get people stirred up?Why wait until a election year,DURING A PANDEMIC to riot and loot over the death of 1 man IF there was not a alterior motive behind it?
Had Mr Floyd passed away on his coach from a heart attack or od on medicine ,we would never had heard of him.
His death is being used as a tool to cause ruckus.The democrats use the Blacks as tools to get votes then abandon them as soon as they walk into the office the Blacks helped them get.But try explaining that to them.Good luck

And just to give you your daily laugh,what about restitution for the suffering my Cherokee ancestors were put thru by the government on the Trail of Tears? Oh,they weren't black so fuck em right?
By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 13:48 other posts of huxley999 
"the Blacks"? Really, that's the language you are going to use?

I'm just about to dish up roast pork so I'll deal with the rest of your muddled thinking anon! Stay safe.
By phart at 05,Jun,20 14:09 other posts of phart 
Muddled thinking, look in the mirror.
I use "the Blacks" because for whatever reason they seem to be using it themselves as AL Sharpton ask everyone to get their knees off their necks during a memorial service yesterday,He certainly was not talking about The American Indian or Hispanics.

By bella! at 05,Jun,20 13:50 other posts of bella! 
phart, you're absolutely right about matters regarding civil rights and accusations about police brutality. Those concerns have been around for a long, long time and we still haven't sorted through it and resolved it. I don't have children or grandchildren, yet I pray that we aren't beyond being fixed and living peacefully with one another.

By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 15:19 other posts of huxley999 
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I've told you before that language is powerful. Particularly in these troubling times, I would urge you to read that link.

Your supposition that, somehow, the fact that it's an election year makes the BLM protests sinister is baseless. People have been "stirred up", on and off, for decades. As Bella! has rightly pointed out: your Nation has been struggling with these issues for a long time. Remember Rodney King? My guess is that a lot of people do NOT yet think justice has been done, with regards to George Floyd. Are you willing to take a bet that the 3 other cops will NOT face any serious jail time? When that verdict comes down do you think people will just roll over and say "Oh well, it went to court and our judicial system is flawless when dealing with cops", or do you think further protest, riots and loss of life may follow? The fuckers who beat Mr King were initially acquitted - remember that?

I believe the "Trump speach"(sic) was taken down because of a copyright infringement issue. AND, dear phart, I was able to see it because you provided a link. Such terrible media bias!!! (sarcasm)

Your suggestion that there was some "alterior" (sic) motive for people protesting fits your narrative, but has no evidence to back it. It is, however, quite reasonable to suppose that people being in "lockdown", because of Covid19, and the rate of US unemployment may have made people's fuses shorter. Then just get a cop to murder someone and .. bang! I'm not saying people aren't using it for reasons that aren't always that palatable, but maybe (for some) it was the latest in a long line of straws that broke the camel's back.

When you say "passed away on his coach", I'm guessing you mean "couch". I would also surmise that poor Mr Floyd would rather have had a life of relative anonymity, as opposed to BEING KILLED BY A COP!

You're descended from poor white trash AND Cherokee? Again, interesting but irrelevant. Sorry, as well, no belly laugh on that one.

If you feel you have ANY reason for thinking that my reaction to the sufferings of the Native Americans on The Trail of Tears would be "fuck em", I would be genuinely interested to hear it. I hope I have given the exact opposite impression, but am happy to be corrected if that has not come across.

Fuck you again .. and have a good weekend, buddy!
By phart at 06,Jun,20 13:59 other posts of phart 
Well at least there is a beating heart in that gut of yours somewhere. I was beginning to think all you had was a aqaurium pump with a clogged filter for a heart.
Not from poor white trash,just ordinary white folks that worked for a living.Back when my mom was young,if you didn't live on a farm,the neighbors did and the parents would send you over there to hoe cotton,pick cotton,and perhaps bring back a ham or 2 for the work to feed the family.
Aint ashamed of it at all.Granted,being a bit wealthy would have it's perks,but I think growing up understanding the meaning of work and it's rewards is 1 of the reasons I don't need to march in the streets and not being cuffed by cops.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 14:37 other posts of huxley999 
"aqaurium (sic) pump with a clogged filter" is bloody brilliant! Can I have your permission to use that myself, in the future? Lovely turn of phrase!

I have to admit that adding "trash" was a cheap dig, hope you'll accept my apology.

My family, on my father's side, has been traced back to the mid 1600s. From then, until the early 20th century, they were all (the patriarchs) farm labourers who owned no land of their own. Good peasant stock!!

If anything, I may be guilty of a bit of inverted snobbery - I'm quite proud of coming from solid, working-class stock. Probably like you, phart, anything I have I have worked for. No trust fund or inherited wealth to speak of. The only difference might be that I WOULD be out marching in the streets. My guess is that you put great store in individualism, whereas I firmly believe in the concept of collective strength (particularly for the working class) as a counter to the ingrained strength/power of the elite.

By phart at 05,Jun,20 13:47 other posts of phart 
I am aware it was a black man beating another human.Wasn't really sure who it was,doesn't matter.
By bella! at 05,Jun,20 13:52 other posts of bella! 
You're right, it doesn't matter. We call ourselves human yet our actions aren't always humane.
By phart at 05,Jun,20 14:07 other posts of phart 
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Clearly states white man under picture.
Must have been wrong or corrected later.I thought I remembered it being a white man but was not sure.I just know for sure it was black violence against another human for sure.
By bella! at 05,Jun,20 14:31 other posts of bella! 
Yes, it does say he's white. But I know that you're open minded enough to recognize that even people reporting in our media make mistakes.

By bella! at 05,Jun,20 14:49 other posts of bella! 
Here's something found on YouTube. I believe that the news media edited the video when presented on the news because of the brutality of the crime.

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By phart at 05,Jun,20 22:13 other posts of phart 
I am going to be honest,I have not had the nerve to watch the video,the still image is enough to make me want to puke.My grandmother was abused by nurseing home staff,some black,and I have never forgotten the response we got from both police and the Social Security Administration.
Police wanted evidence as in who,how,when blah blah blah,,how the hell could we get any when all we could see was the bruises and shit in the bed because they wouldnt change the sheets often enough and her telling us?.We couldn't stay 24-7. Social security,In short," We know abuse happens but we do not have the man power to enforce all the rules and safty prodicals."
Yep,a big government conglomerant,and they gave us that response.
So sorry if I seem a bit odd about that particular issue but damn it,there was no sense in that happening,but no one is rioting over it.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 13:36 other posts of huxley999 
Sorry to hear that your grandmother suffered that abuse, phart. Sounds terrible, and the lack of a proper response from the authorities must have been doubly tough.
By phart at 06,Jun,20 14:04 other posts of phart 
Part of my perspective comes from life experiances like that.I wish it were different. Difficult to forget.

By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 11:09 other posts of JustWill 
I posted this elsewhere in this thread, but I am re-posting here in case it gets lost.
It is honestly worth watching.

I am sure this will make some people's heads explode, and it does require the viewer to have a modicum of empathy and an open mind, but it's worth a shot.

uncomfortable conversations with a black man part 1

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By bella! at 06,Jun,20 11:28 other posts of bella! 
Wow! That was powerful and worth watching!

By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 12:41 other posts of huxley999 
Neat video - although (being facile) the background music got on my nerves, and I was distracted by the guy's musculature in that tight top and trousers. Eloquent stuff, nonetheless.
By bella! at 06,Jun,20 12:57 other posts of bella! 
Wow, I hadn't noticed the background music so I listened to the beginning, again. It didn't annoy me but his clothes were snug and I did notice his muscular physique.

His general appearance and his well thought out words suggested that he was not just a random man making an eloquent statement, upon Google-ing him, he is Emmanuel Acho, a former NFL linebacker and now a sports analyst featured on ESPN.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 12:59 other posts of huxley999 
Former linebacker - that explains why he's built (excuse the UK vernacular) like a brick shithouse!!

That's a compliment btw!
By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 13:33 other posts of JustWill 
"Built like a brick shithouse" is a common expression in my neck of the woods, too.
By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 13:38 other posts of huxley999 
Good to know - I'm a bit wary of metaphors and similes that might not survive trans-Atlantic use!
By JustWill at 06,Jun,20 13:42 other posts of JustWill 
How else are we going to learn, if we don't share?

By bella! at 06,Jun,20 13:39 other posts of bella! 
Mine, too!

By phart at 06,Jun,20 08:36 other posts of phart 
I don't have a list of links but just this morning,I have read the Pentagon has disarmed the guardsman at DC, Chicago denounces vigilantes protecting their bussiness's, citys are looking at defunding Police.And 52 police quit from 1 city because 2 were suspended for doing something to a protester.
Forgive me but what the hell has happened to basic law and order? If everyone thinks like Chicago,we are just supposed to sit under a tree and watch rioters burn the entire earth and do nothing?
Police can't protect,the military can't protect,and we aint supposed to protect ourselves?
What the fuck is going on?
By Skittles at 06,Jun,20 09:02 other posts of Skittles 
A liberal wet dream in process.

You heard it hear first- this whole whinge will do NOTHING for the blacks. In fact, I predict crime to go up big time.
By phart at 06,Jun,20 09:15 other posts of phart 
If I had worked and built up a bussiness and it had been shuttered due to the virus,then some asshole comes and breaks in and burns it to the ground,I sure as hell aint going to walk up to them and give them a big hug and say "Thank and I love you,who would you like for me to vote for this fall sir?"
I hate to think where my anger would lead me,jail probably

This violence does nothing to further any agenda.
And to take away methods of preventing escalation of protest,is going backwards. Nets, silly string,whatever the hello it takes to prevent it from blowing up should be encouraged.
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By Scorps at 02,Jun,20 22:16 other posts of Scorps 
The "Black Lives Matter" (because theirs are the ONLY lives that matter, ESPECIALLY in the womb) movement or whatever the fuck they are, is calling for the defunding of police departments. Just STOP and imagine a world, YOUR city, neighborhood with NO police able to be summoned when needed. How many of you believe that's a solid answer to this situation? OR simply believe or think that is a great idea?
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Here's some REAL statistics to chew on instead of some made up bullshit by a liberal nutjob!

From the F.B.I. uniform crime report...

10 million arrests were made in the U.S. last year.

Police officers were involved in 1004 FATAL shootings.

41 of those were unarmed people. 19 were white (anyone able to name just ONE of those people?), 9 were black, 13 were other races (anyone able to name just ONE of these people?).

89 police officers killed in the line of duty. No outrage for them racist bastards, right?! They got what they had coming to them, right?

There's a fine line between a civil society and an uncivilized one. That line is the police! Most of the time a thankless low paying job for all the bullshit that they put up with. Our leaders all have sworn an oath to protect us from violence foreign AND domestic. The ones allowing these things to continue in all these city's are complete failures and should be held accountable. No law AND order, there's no society.

Now, I ask again, do you believe as the B.L.M. people do, that The Police should in fact be "De-Funded"?
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 07:39 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Well, I've been calling for the castration of animals like you and your kids moved to good homes, but that won't happen either.
All your statistics are saniticed. They don't tell the whole story.
By Scorps at 03,Jun,20 07:57 other posts of Scorps 
You're about a retarded motherfucker! What does what you just said have to do with any fucking thing I posted? Get a grip stoopid! Gotdamn you're really fucking dumb! I think you enjoy embarrassing yourself with the dumbshit you say. If you are a masochists, just come clean and tell everyone that you get your jollies off by being insulted. It would at least make a little more sense why you are such an ignoramus.

By sherryann at 03,Jun,20 09:21 other posts of sherryann 
I couldn't agree more Scorps & if I may add, the facts you mentioned aren't part of the lefts narrative so will be hidden. The ruse of protests are an excuse to loot rob & kill. Continuing to blame racism is egging all the looters on. What about the 2 black cops that killed the 6 yr old white boy? Has anyone heard of the knockout game? Has anyone heard of polar bear hunting? Of course not. None fit the lying criminal loving media's narrative. I could fill this post with more but it will be never ending. More importantly, though, those brainwashed will never see the light. I tried to share what I knew about a different cop story not kong ago in this forum to no avail. Thank you for your post Scorps.
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By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 10:53 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Sherryann you make it sound as if the knockout game is practiced by blacks only. It happens to be a teenage game practiced by all races, It's despicable but not as you insinuate. The other one is the same with a different name.

The ruse of protests are an excuse to loot rob & kill. No, baby, The protests are to bring to the attention of the general population how bad some practices are
Looting, robbing, and killing is done by trash and they should be rounded up and locked up. You conservatives always think us liberals are accepting of unlawful activity.
If that were true, we would stop hounding Trump.
By sherryann at 04,Jun,20 16:07 other posts of sherryann 
Angel, I read you had major surgery so hope and pray you fully recover. Yes knockout game is exclusively black on white. Have you heard of Hi Fi or Zebra murders? Christian/Newsome murders? Witchitaw? I doubt it. Looting is out of hand here.
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 18:28 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I don't want people thinking looting is ok with me. Any stealing, damage of property and especially, assault of other people should be stopped on it's track.
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Be safe. Regardless of our political positions, I wish you the best.

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 10:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
More importantly, though, those brainwashed will never see the light. Funny, we think the same of you and your fellow conservatives. You thank Scorps. If you think so highly of his diatribe, his rudeness, his lack of compassion, his potty mouth, then, girl, we know from where you come from

By Skittles at 03,Jun,20 11:17 other posts of Skittles 
Spot on Scorps!!!

Black CRIMES Matter!!

No outrage for black on black crime...

By huxley999 at 05,Jun,20 09:25 other posts of huxley999 
I suspect that YOU are actually the "retarded motherfucker", Scorps. Nice mouth - by the way. Either that, or you have deliberately misunderstood (for effect) what those proposing defunding the Police actually mean.

"Defunding the police does not mean stripping a department entirely of its budget, or abolishing it altogether. Itís just about scaling police budgets back and reallocating those resources to other agencies, says Lynda Garcia, policing campaign director at the Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights. ďA lot of what we advocate for is investment in community services ó education, medical accessÖ You can call it Ďdefunding,í but itís just about directing or balancing the budget in a different way.Ē

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I guess the truth of defunding doesn't fit your rabid narrative.

"NO police to be summoned when needed" is NOT a result of defunding. You're making stuff up, you unpleasant half-wit.
By Scorps at 05,Jun,20 16:12 other posts of Scorps 
Oh huxley999!

You've REALLY hurt my feelings.

Next time you claim a debilitating health issue, then post a picture of it, claiming to be you, and I come along with heartfelt wishes (despite my disdain for your political views), and post it on your picture, then learn that it was all bullshit in order to seek some sort of sick twisted sympathy or attention, perhaps then, I'll find some special words for you too! Until then, fuck off!

That was meant for one shit for brains. Why you'd wanna insert yourself into that portion of the conversation, escapes me. Maybe just maybe she makes you horny. To each their own. Go for it!

Nevertheless, I'm not "misunderstanding" a damn thing about defunding whether it be by 10% or 100% like Minnesota is trying to do. The VAST majority of Police officers uphold the law every single day. If anything, they should recieve increases as the jobs pay is shit for what the brave men and women of our law enforcement go through. Because of the actions of a few, oh yeah, A FEW! The whole system should be gutted and reformed? I don't think so!
By ANGEL1227 at 05,Jun,20 17:08 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You are incapable of having feelings. You are a cold bastard with no heart.

By huxley999 at 06,Jun,20 06:59 other posts of huxley999 
Classic stuff, Scorps!

You claimed that "NO police" would be able to be "summoned when needed". It's there in your post, as clear as day.

That's NOT TRUE. I point it out and you engage in bullshit sophistry to try and make out that you're not a fuckwit who misunderstood the concept of defunding. Not buying it - so go fuck yourself.

Let's try appealing to common sense:

If a Police force was "defunded" by 10%, and the money saved was spent on mental health workers, and that resulted in less crime and safer streets would you be in favour? In a large Nation you could even trial that approach on a small scale to see if it works.

Personally, from what I've seen on my television screen, reforming the whole system sounds like a good idea. Paying cops more also sounds worthy of consideration - then maybe they would stop kneeling on necks and killing people, or pushing over Seniors in Buffalo.

By CountryCouple54 at 05,Jun,20 21:35 other posts of CountryCouple54 
5 officers shot in the last 3 weeks, 1 dead. Have you heard anything about it. Is it on YouTube, is it on the news, absolutely not. We have a 26 year old son on duty tonight protecting our community. Right now they are in the middle of 100's protesting tonight at the Hard Rock casino and hotel. Which is his district. Wishing all the officer's a safe night. Wishing all the business owners a safe night as they protect their life savings. I can guarantee it will be a bad night for anyone trying to lewd any business in Davie or Hollywood, Florida tonight. They'll be in a pine box by morning.
By bella! at 05,Jun,20 21:46 other posts of bella! 
Yes, I hope that the 100's of protesters remain focused on their message and that businesses are not damaged. That the protesters recognize that police officers are people, too, doing the job that they had a calling for. At the end of the demonstration may EVERYONE safely return to their home and loved ones.
By CountryCouple54 at 05,Jun,20 22:00 other posts of CountryCouple54 
This is the 2nd night this week that we are sitting on the sofa waiting for a call from him saying it's over, and he is safe. Sunday night was a shit show in downtown Ft Lauderdale. Thankful it didn't turn out worse. Tonight is a little closer to home. The protest was at the Hard Rock in Hollywood. Tommorow it will be down the street at Davie Police department. So far it's been peaceful with mostly young kids from local schools. I would like to hear from twowarmtts if this local inner city protesting is going on down south. Or has it stayed to bigger downtown Miami areas?--------------------------------------- added after 18 minutesIt's weird, I never had feelings for the shit I did and seen in the Marines. As a father you become proud as your sons want to follow in you footsteps. Then it hits you. Your boys are not you. I was a junkie, I needed war like a drug addict needed a fix. To think now that I had anything to do with their decisions in life, sucks. Am I and my wife proud, absolutely. My wife and I never had a worry that I would always come home after deployment. But man it's a whole different ball game when you worry about your babies.
By ANGEL1227 at 06,Jun,20 04:35 other posts of ANGEL1227 
CC, the big demonstrations in Miami happened in Wynwood and downtown Miami. They were largely peaceful. Wynwood is an art community surrounded by Puerto Rican and African Americans.

By dgraff at 05,Jun,20 22:17 other posts of dgraff 
Has the ku klux clan made an appearance there as of yet they did in Lebanon Pennsylvania
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And in my opinion they saved the city

By CountryCouple54 at 31,May,20 19:39 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I hope this piece of shit cop, realizes he has set back the trust between the cops and citizens another 10 years. I hope they throat fuck this bitch and rip his fucking heart out as he sits in jail. I hope this piece of shit excuse for an officer, realizes he has put my son and all the good officers in jeopardy. Right now my son is in a shit show in downtown Ft. Lauderdale. Tear gas, flash bangs, and now 150 National Guard are moving in. Wishing a safe night for the officers all over the country.
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 20:47 other posts of ANGEL1227 
CC, most people, cops, firemen, first responders, accountants, etc are good people. It takes one piece of shit person to fuck it all up.
I hope your son stays safe.
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By phart at 31,May,20 21:21 other posts of phart 
I hope your son is safe.But will the national guard do much to stop the riots or just be there for show?

Read this folks,read,then tell me higher,richer,powers,Soros,for example are not involved.You have politicians kids tweeting info to the rioters.
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By CountryCouple54 at 31,May,20 21:47 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I would say for show. The boys in Ft Lauderdale have done an awesome job. They helped clear the way all day for a peaceful protest. Then at 9pm, they came out in force and took care of business. It's almost 10pm, and things are looking calm. But that 1 hour looked like a war zone in our own city streets. So sad this has to be the outcome.
By phart at 31,May,20 21:49 other posts of phart 
Good,i hope this shit ends soon.
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By bella! at 31,May,20 22:17 other posts of bella! 
There's absolutely nothing that will justify George Floyd's death but I'm curious whether you read or saw footage as to how/why Mr. Floyd ended up on the ground? The initial stop shows police removing him from a car and directing him over to the sidewalk and I believe he was cuffed at that time. Where did everything go haywire?
By CountryCouple54 at 31,May,20 22:28 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Just a bad decision under a heated situation. Been there, made those decisions. But when the man was unconscious for 2 minutes and 50 seconds
and you still have your knee on a handcuffed man's neck. You're a murderer.
By bella! at 31,May,20 22:37 other posts of bella! 
I get that but do you know by reading an account of what happened OR was there vest cam footage that showed what happened that caused 3 policemen to subdue him on the ground? As I recall, there were 4 police, 3 on George Floyd and one officer standing.

As I said, nothing would justify his death but I'm still not clear what would have been the cause for the 3 police officers to have him pinned on the ground.
By dgraff at 01,Jun,20 06:08 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah I donít think we are getting the full story something had to of happened to enrage the officers not that I agree with there actions but something set them off
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 09:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By CountryCouple54 at 01,Jun,20 21:16 other posts of CountryCouple54 
To commit murder. Did the guy look like he was giving up a fight during the 8 minutes he was being killed. The man begged for his life. The last 2 minutes and 50 seconds he was unconscious. I can tell you, you can feel a person's life slip away in your hands. You know he is gone, you feel his body go limp, you feel his breathing slow. The cop was a fucking worthless excuse for a human.
By phart at 01,Jun,20 22:48 other posts of phart 
I don't have a link handy but I have spotted it several times here on the web that the victum and the cop worked together doing security at a bar-club thing until december I think. So they knew each other.I am wondering now if maby that fake 20 dollar bill might be a good thing to start looking into.May have been money laundering going on or something related to drugs?

edit, a quick googling,
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By bella! at 02,Jun,20 09:25 other posts of bella! 
But, phart, working together, a bogus twenty dollar bill, what "justification" is that to the force used which ultimately lead to death? I don't understand? Are you suggesting that Officer Chauvin's actions were to squash Chauvin's involvement in a money laundering scheme?

Well, if the death of a man was going to keep Chauvin from being implicated, charged and possibly convicted of that illeg@lity, I can't imagine that being charged with murder is going to yield better results.
By phart at 02,Jun,20 09:49 other posts of phart 
that 20 dollar bill may open the door to a larger picture is what I was trying to get across. Perhaps the cop was DUMB enough to think no one would ask questions.I mean ,the other 3 COPS were dumb enough to stand there with their perverbial thumbs up their ass's. So what was to say the public wouldn't do the same?
Sucide watch? Is that not tighter security for the cop? Could it be a way to hide the fact he may be talking?THeorys but there is more to the story than we are being told.
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 10:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart, open the door to a bigger picture? What picture is that? Hands-on experience to murder a disgusting minority?
By phart at 02,Jun,20 14:46 other posts of phart 
I am not a artist,I can't draw well.BUT what I am trying to say,Perhaps there is or was organized crime involved in the bar they worked at,and the cop was afraid the black man might start jabbering and cost him his job.Organized crime as in making fake money and laundering it thru the bar.Just a theory,but I don't think the killing was just a spur of the moment thing.He waited nearly 9 minutes to pull his knee of the mans neck.
Making sure he was dead perhaps and couldnt' talk?

The theator in your mind needs to pull back the curtains a little so you can see a bigger screen!
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 18:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Phart. STOP, JUST STOP. baby you are going to hurt yourself.
By phart at 02,Jun,20 21:48 other posts of phart 
no I aint,I might be the only 1 that has enough sense to know this murder was to cover up something else.
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 22:04 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, phart, there's no excuse for a police officer to MURDER anyone. It might have been a justifiable homicide if George Floyd was flailing around but the fact that he's telling the officer he can't breathe, there doesn't seem to be anything justifiable about his death.
By phart at 03,Jun,20 13:49 other posts of phart 
I concure with no reason for murder as we see it.But we don't know what was in that officers head.Apparently not a brain but anyhow I do wish the violence would stop and let the justice system work.

By Scorps at 02,Jun,20 16:54 other posts of Scorps 
@ Bella! after reading a few of your responses, I came away with the feeling that you were implying that the action was indeed racially motivated. I proposed a question days ago, now down further in your thread, a genuine question, as to how this incident was anything other than police brutality. In which case, NOT one single person responded. Now I'm asking again... To you OR anyone else!

At which point OR what exactly makes the actions of the police officer in question, racially motivated!? That was not a rhetorical question, yet, no one, even the menace answered it. What part of what happened justifies the ridiculous BLM movement/members to get involved? Is this another case of it's ok to have a dedicated education fund, colleges and many other things solely for ONE race, but NO other race can do or say the same? Why is that (also NOT a rhetorical question)?

12 black lives were snuffed out or extinguished this past weekend in St. Louis alone, by other blacks. 21 were stamped out in Chicago this past weekend. Where's the outcry! I also asked that question in your thread and once again, not one single response. Now I ask you, why even no responses to my questions? I would like to hear other points of view. These aren't flippant questions or an attempt to be incendiary. They are real questions.
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Is it ONLY acceptable to maim and or kill a member of the same race as you are, now? THEN, It's ok!

How about the Police, since EVERTIME a black person gets pulled over or commit a crime and a white police officer is involved race is invoked. Why is that. How should something like that be handled so as racism doesn't get decried every single time? The scream of racism is so over used and played out I'm personally sick of it. Just because two people of different colors interact with one another in opposition of one another doesn't automatically qualify the act as RACIST!
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 17:41 other posts of bella! 
I think you might be reading between the lines, I don't believe that I said or eluded too the actions of the police being racially motivated. I continue to ask and wonder how/why George Floyd was pinned to the ground by three police officers. I wouldn't think that that would happen if he was cooperating with the officers.

As far as posting questions and not receiving a response, I can't answer that HOWEVER I fear some members might not feel comfortable posting their thoughts if their views differed from whomever.

The death of George Floyd is an ugly mark on our country as us as her people.

By bella! at 02,Jun,20 17:47 other posts of bella! 
Read this member's post;

"thousands of black men women and children are killed in African countries every day, but l didn't see one other country care one iota about any of them, but when one BLACK AMERICAN dies, the world melts down. thousands of blacks in other countries die every day, theyre shot, run over, bludgeoned to death, but not one even makes it to the news. all l see now is a whole of idiots rioting and causing 'drama' for the world to see. l see that now that they have trashed the country, theyre all lining up at the white house to trash it too.. shows how much love you all have for the country. gee lets go and trash the white house, blame trump because he's not Moses and cant part the sea and make it all better with the wave of his magic wand. l would actually like to see this George Floyds rap sheet before l make a comment about the man, as most times these guys get shot, theyre running from a crime. l seen one a few years ago about a black guy getting shot, right after he walked out of a shop that he regularly 'shopped for free' at by walking in and taking what he wanted and with camera footage of him throwing the shopkeeper to the side to get his 'free' ciggies, he gets shot and then his momma wondered why they shot him???? 'but hes a good boy' ... yeah, now they want to riot here too????. and the looting??? l thought is theft??? lets loot real peoples jobs and fuck the place to make it right??? that doesn't make sense, protests are about joining for a common cause, looting and rioting is thugs and mugs using this as their excuse to widen that gap of 'us and them' a bit more, the ones looting are no better than the cop with knee of a possible criminals throat... its all bullshit... and anyone in these crimes against the honest people just trying to make a living, who is going to riot over the millions of dollars of riots????"


"yeah, like l said, what about the thousands that have died and are still dying from china flu. didn't see any riot over the chinese, and trump trying to sever the ties there??? everyone that stole, rioted, looted and insighted violence, should all have their heads held under water till they behave themselves. humans matter, no matter what colour, and this isn't a colour thing, this was one arsehole cop who was known to have been overly hard handed and wasn't stood down earlier, once the hand cuffs go on. he is arrested, there was no need for the rest of the bullshit from him or the tens of thousands that went berserk on the streets, it doesn't help ... that's not how you make a bad situation better. the news reporters are all only there for their 'award' for being in a dangerous spot. and a lot of these idiots love a camera to play too. ... its the way humans have evolved since the invention of the hand held recording device."
By dgraff at 02,Jun,20 20:55 other posts of dgraff 
I couldnít have said it better myself
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I donít think itís about Floydís death at all itís just an excuse for people in big cities to behave badly the city of Lebanon is 98 percent Puerto Ricanís and they are having an up rising they need to learn in this country we have laws I donít go to their country and raise hell
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 21:56 other posts of bella! 
Hey, those aren't my words and thoughts.
By Scorps at 02,Jun,20 21:59 other posts of Scorps 
Lol In his defense... It is unspecified.
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 22:04 other posts of bella! 

By dgraff at 02,Jun,20 22:25 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha sorry I just got caught up in my own agenda

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:18 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You might be surprised that those 98% Puerto Ricans in Lebanon are your fellow citizens. Puerto Rico is an unincorporated territory of the United States. It's been like that since 1898 when the US took possession after the Spanish American war. Of course this is something taught in high school. Isn't it funny? The could stand in the main corner of Lebanon and shout to you to go back to your COUNTY.
By dgraff at 03,Jun,20 11:54 other posts of dgraff 
I know that but what pisses me off is we wanted them to become a state but they donít want to because they would have to pay taxes when markis lived with me he used to brag to me about how his mother has lived here the last 20 years off our government she gets her rent paid and food stamps just for laying down and spreading her legs having 6 children yet I canít even get help with my medication
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Did you try laying with your legs open??

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Anyway, in the last election they did want statehood. Congress doesn't want them due to the costs

By bella! at 03,Jun,20 12:00 other posts of bella! 
dgraff, do you really need assistance with paying for your medications?
By dgraff at 03,Jun,20 12:30 other posts of dgraff 
No not at all because I quit taking it I just flat out refuse to pay 258. Dollars a month for a medication that makes me feel funny I bought a 3.00 bottle of aspirin instead now I feel right again

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 12:11 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Listen, you go into the Cuban neighborhood of Little Havana and almost all the people there rent using section 8's. they get medicare and medicaid. Food stamps and extra help. Usually there's two living without the benefit of marriage (illegal) But, who really cares. They live in dingy little apartments, clanking window ac's and old refrigerators. Their gas stoves are not regulated for propane and they are slowly dying from it.
My question to you is: Do you want to trade places?
By dgraff at 03,Jun,20 12:39 other posts of dgraff 
Hell no I wonít trade places with the Cubans all they are is Fidel Castroís prisoners he left loose and pointed to Florida and said fly be free
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 06:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
And yet, a few blocks from there is Brickel Ave. One of the ritches business environments in the world. And controlled by the nuvo riche, the Cubans.
By dgraff at 04,Jun,20 06:44 other posts of dgraff 
We need a sea wall put up around our beaches to keep them out I will talk to Trump about it
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 06:52 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Will Cuba pay for it?
By dgraff at 04,Jun,20 07:15 other posts of dgraff 
They will if we make them
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 10:14 other posts of ANGEL1227 
With what? Cuban cigars? Every Cuban family in Miami sends money to their relatives and once a year the fly over with clothing and other staples. If Cuba was human it would be crawling on a corner asking for water.

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 07:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
There were two replies as these were two different posts in my thread. They were posted by Lix
On the first post I rebuted
This man, Floyd, passed a counterfeit $20 bill when paying at a store. I have had bad bills passed to me. Regardless of his rap sheet, was this enough to murder him?
The thousands killed in African countries should be something the 54 countries of Africa should be responsible for. Idi Amin killed for years. Pandemics come and go with no help from the local governments. Most countries try to help. Doctors without borders, Unicef, the Red Cross, but anything else is rebuffed by the local governments

As far as the China flue is concerned, it wasn't caused by a Minneapolis cop
Those were my rebuttals. I did not see your rebuttal or comment
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 11:23 other posts of bella! 
It is impossible for me to comment on her ignorant posts, the HATE FILLED COWARD blocked me years ago.

Oh, maybe I should pretend and say that I was in the process of rebooting my phone or whatever and when I opened the site, I couldn't help but notice all the HATEFUL POSTS about me and our country. Yeah, hate runs rampant here in the United States. Kumbaya, all the happy law abiding folks with love in their heads, hearts and mouths live elsewhere, certainlynothere. And you, the person who she has dubbed, the "main attraction", she has you perfectly trained to eat the treats fed to you straight from her hand.

"you people cant even work out your differences between black and white, and hate is something you must all be taught at school, judging by they way the country behaves, you see it here every day, black/white, class, and even your grammar police love to toss shit at each other, it must be a fucked up boring arse country, so much bitching and no fixing ... just yell at each some more and show us all that America isn't great, its just full of hot air, guns and self righteousness, all trying to one up each other useless shit, and when the real shit hits the fan, you all start the shit tossing again, blame game everyone, and at the end of it all, it MUST BE TRUMP that caused it. he gets the blame for everything "
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Sorry, I forgot you are blocked.
And you, the person who she has dubbed, the main attraction, she has you perfectly trained to eat the treats fed to you straight from her hand.
this tidbit comes from Bella
Treats are just that, treats. But, you seem to think I agree with all she posts. I don't. However, an exchange of views is always healthy. If you give the other person some slack due to their form of speak you will see that while you may not agree, you can still be on the high road.
That first sentence tells me you are both hiding from her and at the same time, hoping she reads you post.
As far as whom is to blame, both of you are. This site is big enough that neither one of you two need to meet up.
And what about Trump? do you think if and/or when he loses the election all his supporters will continue to support him? Or will they abandon him to his fate?
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 11:50 other posts of bella! 
Hiding from her? Not! I feel she is "hiding" from me. The reboot was her bullshit "excuse" used to say that she's seen and read my posts. Trolling is trolling is TROLLING. Read her post in Rogerdhat 's thread /forum/thread.php?id=28900 , remember, she's blacklisted me, she cannot view my posts. And I probably should not be surprised to say that I've seen her dislike for me to be incorporated into a left handed comment she left on a picture of a mutual friend, a SYD member.
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( 💗 Y 💗 ) Just popping by to say G'day !!! and I hope you had a super sexy day Rogerdhat💋 💗Lix💗
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 12:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Don't be coy. You check out other threads before you log in as much as other people. Blocking protects you from one thing and one thing only. Your page doesn't get trashed.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 12:48 other posts of bella! 
Oh, from time to time, I look for her biased posts. She seems confused, for the most part, the only time I mention her here is when I've asked you to not stir stuff up with regard to her and/or leopoldij. I did mention her a few weeks ago when I saw a member's post saying that she was the most important person of the site. She undeniably is the most popular and having the most friends and moderates the most groups. But to say she's the most important or the key feature to this site, NOT!
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 17:27 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Ok, who or what do you think is the key feature to this site?
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 18:50 other posts of bella! 
I believe that I said this before but if I haven't, I don't mind repeating it. In the big picture of things, that woman is only 1 piece of this site. Although SYC membership is far less than SYD, there are far more women involved that contribute to this site than you seem to want to credit. We should not forget about the SYD members, either. Do you recall seeing admin's disclaimer upon entering the site? Something about this may be a bi or gay dating site. Do you think those men think she's a "key feature"? Do you think that the 400 plus groups she moderates are better because she's there? I'd love to know what she's able to add to any group. Sadly, I can't even join the group for Michiganders because she is the moderator. admin has allowed her to become the BIG fish in the small pond.

Hey, as my punching bag, she probably has you thinking that you don't bring anything to the table. Continue to be her main cheerleader and warrior. You look out for her and I can't imagine why.
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 19:10 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You believe it's important to be recognized as someone that contributes to the site. I don't. I believe that what happens in the moment is much moe important to me. What I bring to the table is me. I am the most important person on site. You and Lix are a distant second. And frankly, your and Lix's opinions are just so much manure. If you want a group for Michiganders, create one and tell your friends. The site allows copy cats. It's easy to be Lix's cheerleader. I like my friends enough that I take umbrage when they are called walrus, fat pig, etc. I identify with her as I get called saggy tits, trailer trash, smelly pussy.

I look out for her because she is a FRIEND. Do I have to explain that to you?

By dgraff at 03,Jun,20 16:28 other posts of dgraff 
So how does it feel to be a punching bag
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 16:39 other posts of bella! 
What's peculiar is that I attempt to avoid her and the confrontation that interacting with her brings yet BB tells her that she's my "punching bag"? Sheesh!
By dgraff at 03,Jun,20 16:45 other posts of dgraff 

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 17:14 other posts of ANGEL1227 
If you are referring to TWOWARMTTS I think you are misreading the situation. Sometimes one finds itself in the middle of an argument with little to protect oneself. This thread about police brutality is not one of those. Sure, views are strong and voices are high.
The continuous fight between Bella and Lix draws one in to a fight that neither can win. It's true that Bella dances around me like a punching bag. But it's mostly shadow boxing. Lix is no better althow she doesn't put me down
I like this thread. But to talk about meals when there's so many other more important threads seems to me a waste of good copy. In the last two weeks I brought up gun ownership. CC brought up this one. I'm proud to have contributed.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 17:31 other posts of bella! 
I'm not fighting with her nor do I mention her in a negative light. Can she say the same about me?

I surely don't dance around, nor do I dance around you. For the most part, I try to ignore you. You, my punching bag? That's a hoot, you best look at other member's post and how they address you.

And who are you to judge what is important or worthy for discussion? Members can exchange thoughts about food without calling anyone a "Village Idiot" or anything on between.
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 17:57 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Let me start with your last paragraph. I am a member that participates in your thread. That gives me the right to my opinion and to state that opinion.
BTW "Who are you to judge" is a punch thrown my way. Do I care? Do I care what shortfused members say about me?
Members can exchange thoughts about food without calling anyone a "Village Idiot" or anything on between. Yet, that's how I was refered to by Scorps. Either you are out of touch with your fellow contributors or don't give a damn.I'm glad you and Lix are not fighting. Just bickering (fighting for position).
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 19:06 other posts of bella! 
Yes, you are one person that participates and contributes here. And as long as you want to be "nice", feel free to post here. But when you feel the need to be rude to me, don't do it here. I said the other day, would you continue to welcome someone to your space, your home, your whatever when that person is continually rude to you? I think not. It has been a while since I referred to you in a derogatory manner. I've seen your responses to your friend, that you like to light it up here. Move your fun to Aussieman187's thread, help him to gain some ground.

*lix* might be battling for position, not me. I'm comfortable with who I am and where I am.
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 19:17 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Hey, I gave up the emoji and trying to explain my posts. I do like to light it up here. You can't deny your thread starts to move when I get a little funny

By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 19:06 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Scorps, why are you so sick about the scream of racism? A black man died, a white man killed him. There's an old saying. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck it probably is a duck. But, you are right. The cop might have needed to dry his elbow. Maybe the cop thought the guy needed a rub down. My take on it is: How dare this black coon die under the care of this fine, upstanding cop? It doesn't matter anymore what the dynamics of the confrontation between cop and purp. The second after his last breath it became racial.
Suppose this had been your wife or son. You would not be enraged? You say, How about the Police, since EVERTIME a black person gets pulled over or commit a crime and a white police officer is involved race is invoked. Why is that. How should something like that be handled so as racism doesn't get decried every single time? Maybe, when the victims of racist crimes correlate to the percentage of blacks to the total population
Scorps, you are sick of calling it racist. Tell me, how many
White teenagers get shot in the back after getting stopped for a driving violation. How many white women get killed by police raids?
By Scorps at 02,Jun,20 21:58 other posts of Scorps 
And along comes the Village Idiot with incoherent ramblings, her OWN personal beliefs of non existent FACTS. Your idiocy can speak for itself! What's the matter? Feeling a lil threatened that, that white guilt might be exposed that you obviously suffer from? I contend you're the fucking racist pig, clearly! Advocate for some more abortion clinics to be placed in black neighborhoods, or how about some more liquor stores. As aforementioned, just because you open your pussy to any and all don't make you any less of a racist pig! Keep peddling it's ok to come across our borders with tons and tons of drugs, keep sitting idly by while the blacks continue to murder more blacks than any white people EVER have. YOUR complicity speaks volumes to me. Keep telling yourself it's ok to witness the destruction of primarily liberal cities, and moreso areas that serve and cater to the less fortunate amongst us. All under the guise of supposed racism that was committed, right! It's ok, fuck them right! Think those stores are going to reopen in those areas? Think again dumbass! Those places destroyed in Ferguson, Mo. NEVER returned. Who does all these things hurt? WHO DOES ALL THESE THINGS HURT? BLACK PEOPLE YOU FUCKING MORON, DO YOU GIVE A SHIT!? Of course you don't, keep pretending that America is utterly filled with racist and that your not one of them, even though you encourage and turn a blind eye to these facts. As long as they continue to keep killing each other, minds polluted in alchohol and drugs, they will never be equals with the likes of Candy, and Charlie living peacefully in the "white section" of Florida. I bet you sleep super soundly at night just knowing that you and people like you continue to advocate to keep the black people suppressed to THEIR Area's. But you're no racist, gimme a fucking break. Next time you decide to call someone racist you might outta check yourself first. Pig!
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 06:31 other posts of ANGEL1227 
If I get you right, everyone is wrong and a racist. You are the only one that knows the whole truth. You conveniently ignore the facts and throw it back to your accuser. Sounds like your idol, Donal The Clown Trump.

By bella! at 03,Jun,20 07:06 other posts of bella! 
Based on this account, I wound tend to believe that the officers used "excessive force".

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By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 07:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Pig is the cop that murdered. Pigs are the people like you who try to find an excuse. You are pathetic

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 07:47 other posts of ANGEL1227 
BTW, And along comes the Village Idiot with incoherent ramblings, her OWN personal beliefs of non existent FACTS.

YOU WHO SOILS HIS PANTS THINKING ABOUT THE Mexicans running across the border. You are a fascist. A racial fascist

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By huxley999 at 03,Jun,20 12:30 other posts of huxley999 
Systemic racism is rife in the United States.

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Your beloved POTUS has, to put it mildly, a chequered past when it comes to racism. One example (there's more if you want it):

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Given just those 2 elements, if I was a black American and saw a guy get murdered (a la George Floyd) I would be angry as hell. If there was a local (peaceful) protest I would probably join it.

If I then saw my POTUS (yes, he SHOULD speak for ALL Americans) behave as he has over the last few days I would be even angrier.

Does any of that mean the murder was racially aggravated? We don't know - the scumbag hasn't been in court yet. To say it definitely WASN'T racially motivated (or aggravated) is as screwy as to say it definitely WAS.

How you, as a Nation, learn to live in peace with yourselves is above my pay grade. However, leaders seeking conciliation and respect for each other would be a good start. I fear you will not see that from the present resident of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 15:30 other posts of bella! 
An observation, the article about systematic racism is addressing racism in the United States. Surely the points made, wealth, education, housing, healthcare, etc and how it relates to racism is not unique to the United States.

Perhaps our criminal justice system is skewed, and there are issues in our criminal justice system that need to be reviewed and overhauled. ie, you might be in prison for life without the possibility of parole because of multiple d/rug offenses but be paroled for murder. That's messed up.
By huxley999 at 03,Jun,20 15:46 other posts of huxley999 
Not unique, maybe, but the severity and long-standing nature of that racism goes some way (in my opinion) to explaining why something like the Black Lives Matter slogan/movement has such traction in the US.

Do you think #MeToo would have been so much of an issue if sexism and sexual misconduct wasn't such a massive stain on human interactions? If things ring true for a Nation, a gender or any other distinct group, a movement will prosper. If it's a "non-issue" it will wither.

The fact that there are hundreds of George Floyd/BLM protests now going on outside the US confirms that you're not alone, as a Nation, in having problems with racism - it's just a question of scale, in some respects. I was, however, trying to give a personal perspective as to why the US is in such a state NOW.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 16:07 other posts of bella! 
Thank you huxley999, I appreciate your response and clarification.

By bella! at 03,Jun,20 16:15 other posts of bella! 
When you have the inkling and time to Google, Google Richard Wershe Jr, aka, white boy rick.

White boy rick was released from the Oaks Correction Facility in Michigan in April 2017 and turned over to U.S. Marshals. Wershe is being housed at TTH Kissimee FL after spending nearly three decades behind bars in Michigan as a nonviolent drug offender.

His incarceration is a reflection of our justice system being messed up.

Sorry, our JUDICIAL system needs to be overhauled.
By huxley999 at 03,Jun,20 17:51 other posts of huxley999 
I have seen the "white boy rick" documentary, on Netflix. You're right: it's yet another (negative) reflection of the US justice and penal system.

I saw another about Cyntoia Brown, that reinforced my view that you're not quite hitting all the right notes!

I'm tempted to ask why, if there are so many sensible US citizens (like yourself) around, you are so badly-served by your politicians?

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By bella! at 01,Jun,20 16:00 other posts of bella! 
I saw this on YouTube, it appears that things might be calming down in Minneapolis.

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By CountryCouple54 at 01,Jun,20 21:19 other posts of CountryCouple54 
No Ms. bella, things
are just starting.
By bella! at 01,Jun,20 21:44 other posts of bella! 
I truly hope that you are wrong.

By kebmo at 02,Jun,20 00:30 other posts of kebmo 
I keep trying to think of something appropriate to say, but I can't. Know that you are in my tear filled heart America. ❤️
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 11:04 other posts of ANGEL1227 
TY Kebmo

By Andthisisme at 02,Jun,20 07:24 other posts of Andthisisme 
A GENERAL POINT NOT REFERRING TO GEORGE FLOYD -I have seen a lot of fly on the wall cop shows over here and so often when the police attempt to detain a suspect they either try to take flight or they fight against the cops trying to arrest them and end up on the ground STILL FIGHTING. The cops are rough in those circumstances that is for sure but had the guy just allowed himself to be cuffed there would have been no need for the struggle.

I have not watched the footage but no behaviour by Mr Floyd justifies the behaviour of the arresting cops. Over here cops wear vest cams and this can confirm the events as they happened. I agree with you, where is the vest cam footage?

I may be wrong, but I seem to recall a incident not long ago when a US cops shot dead a woman in her car, she had been the one to call out the cops and amazingly there was no vest cam footage there either. it does make you wonder.
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 09:30 other posts of bella! 
If you watch some of the police type shows, cuffing hands is often not enough to subdue a person, man or woman. The officers, guards, etc need to be mindful of spittle and kicking feet.
By Andthisisme at 02,Jun,20 09:34 other posts of Andthisisme 
Oh I know, I totally agree. My point really was, while trying not to offend the George Floyd supporters, that often the person who is about to be cuffed brings more aggressive police action on themselves by their own actions.
Being a rational person, I hope, I can't understand why they do that and the complain that the police were aggressive. Without their struggle to avoid cuffing there would be no incident.
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 09:52 other posts of bella! 
The death of George Floyd was unfortunate and unnecessary and has come at a time with the BLACK LIVES MATTER movement being in full swing. As CountryCouple54 suggests, this will "set back the trust between the cops and citizens another 10 years."

The United States is not a third world country and I've often wondered whether disgraceful crimes like this happen anywhere else. Whether there is hate, bigotry and racial tension anywhere else. I've asked the question and two members did respond. People are people and "he's" a reflection of me, "you" are a reflection of her.....
By Andthisisme at 02,Jun,20 11:49 other posts of Andthisisme 
There have been some quite high profile cases over here where males with Ďblackí heritage have died as a result of police actions and these deaths have led to street protests and some rioting,
This is not that common but BAME communities, certainly in large cities, do see racism in many police actions.

BAME = Black, Asian and Multi Ethnic
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 13:42 other posts of bella! 
I'm going to qualify my response with I live in Michigan,
I've always lived in Michigan and it wasn't until 2017 that I ventured outside of the United States and saw some of Europe. I don't know that I can even articulate what/how I felt as a "tourist". This leads me to wonder, generally speaking, are Americans viewed as ignorant, hot headed, barbaric, vulgar heathens? Yes, sadly in the 21st century, racism still exists. If there is a utopian society somewhere, please tell me where.

By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 11:07 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Thereís a huge difference between controlling a suspect and using deadly force. Especially when you have three other people helping
By bella! at 02,Jun,20 13:29 other posts of bella! 
Yes there is. Was there something in my post that suggested otherwise?
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 14:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Sorry. I was answering thisismeís first paragraph.

By Andthisisme at 03,Jun,20 16:13 other posts of Andthisisme 
I wouldn't argue with you at all. You are 100% right.
The point that I was making was that in the case I have seen on television the suspect who is fighting and struggling has brought the more physical response on themselves. I am amazed at even when on the floor and being cuffed that the suspect continues to fight and struggle.
If the arrest is erroneous accept it got to the station and with your lawyer argue your case.
I am only referring here to the incidents that I have seen on television, in almost every case the struggling suspect has a criminal record.
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 16:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Anthiisme. Most do have criminal records. Many fight back. I believe cops have to be rough with these people. Four cops not able to control one individual except by killing him does not make sense.
The researchers found that the percentage of black men with a felony conviction increased from 13% in 1980 to 33% in 2010 (compared to 5% and 13% for all adult men during these periods, respectively). They also estimate that the percentage of black men who had experienced imprisonment increased from 6% in 1980 to 15% in 2010 (compared to 2% and 6% for all adult men during these periods, respectively)

This shows that black men are arrested more often than whites
By Scorps at 04,Jun,20 09:10 other posts of Scorps 
Blow it out your ass dumbfuck!

Your using 40 year old & 10 year old statistics as if they still apply TODAY!

Keep fanning the flames, your good at it, as evidenced by your inability to ever shut the fuck up. Your a habitual liar and a complete ass.

Now, kneel down and apologize for being white privileged. Grovel at the boots of violent offenders, beg for forgiveness of your transgressions against humanity.
Do it fool!
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 09:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You believe the statistics got better? Judging from your crude response it hit a critical nerve.

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By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 09:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
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Between 2013 and 2019, police in the United States killed 7,666 people, according to data compiled by Mapping Police Violence, a research and advocacy group. On May 25, 2020 at 9:25pm (02:25 GMT, May 26), George Floyd, a 46-year-old resident of Minnesota, became yet another victim of police brutality as he was killed in police custody while unarmed. Floyd's death has prompted thousands of protesters to march in cities around the country demanding justice and an end to police violence.

The number of police killings in the US disproportionately affects African Americans. Despite only making up 13 percent of the US population, Black Americans are two-and-a-half times as likely as white Americans to be killed by the police.

The map below shows how disproportionate these killings are across the US's 50 states.

Unsurprisingly, the three largest states - California, Texas and Florida - have the highest total number of killings of Black people by police officers. Once these figures are adjusted for the population size and demographics, in nearly every state, African Americans face a significantly higher risk of being killed by police officers than white Americans.

In Utah, the African Americans comprise just 1.06 percent of the population but they accounted for 10 percent of police killings over the past seven years - a disproportional rate of 9.21 times. In Minnesota, Black Americans are nearly four times as likely to be killed by law enforcement, with Black victims comprising 20 percent of those killed, despite comprising only 5 percent of the overall population.


By huxley999 at 03,Jun,20 13:23 other posts of huxley999 
"Fly on the wall" documentaries are just like any other TV show, in my opinion. They want ratings!

If they showed all the peaceful, co-operative suspects being detained people would switch channels like a flash. By definition, therefore, we get a skewed vision of how people interact with the Police.

You're right, though: no behaviour by Mr Floyd justifies what happened to him. Even if you're being arrested for the most heinous crime, you still have rights.
By Andthisisme at 03,Jun,20 16:16 other posts of Andthisisme 
You are surely right but I ask again. Why struggle and fight in that way? Are you hoping to escape and go on the run? The police to say 'Oh sorry no need for the cuffs?'

I am not defending the police here or anywhere else I am just saying fighting against arrest generally is a mugs game.
By huxley999 at 03,Jun,20 16:41 other posts of huxley999 
You're high?
You're trying to impress an audience?
You're seeing if you can provoke the cop so you can sue him later?
Doesn't really matter does it - the cops are the ones AT WORK, trained and under a massive obligation to do the right thing, even when at risk to their own personal safety. That's what they signed up for, right?

Yeah, fighting them is a mug's game. A lot of criminals are mugs, but there are also mugs who haven't broken the law (or have done so in a very minor way) and NEITHER group should be subjected to extrajudicial killing.

PS. I think we are "on the same page" Andthisisme!
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 06:35 other posts of ANGEL1227 
There are unwritten forms of conduct for black men when they have an experience with the cops. MOTHERFUCKERS AND fucking pigs is amost a requirement. Some cops believe that if the perp doesn't shout these out, the guy is innocent. If he is not restrained it's an invitation to bolt. The bigger the audience screaming police brutality the more belligerent the perp gets. All because blacks are afraid of the police
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Phart, Huxley, I want you to know why I prefer mail-in voting. I'm going to mail my vote. I want it to get lost and eliminated. I will be able to blame the Republicans for stealing my vote. Obviously if they are loosing they will try these shenanigans.
By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 06:43 other posts of huxley999 
Jeez Angel 1227, you're nearly as bad as phart for posting unsubstantiated drivel. Any hard evidence for any of that? "unwritten forms of conduct"?
"the bigger the audience .. the more belligerent"?

Sweeping generalisations and personal opinion, that's all that is.
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 06:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Huxley, I understand that British humor is vey dry, but, I would have thought some tongue-in-cheek sarcasm would have penetrated that straight laced personality of yours. No put down intended. I wrote that for the fun effect. My suggestion is: go back to reading Scorps posts. They are so factual
By Scorps at 04,Jun,20 09:14 other posts of Scorps 
Shut up stoopid!
By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 09:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Ok, I've got it. Hope you get it too.

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By ANGEL1227 at 04,Jun,20 09:33 other posts of ANGEL1227 

Shut up stoopid!


By Scorps at 04,Jun,20 03:47 other posts of Scorps 
De-escalation, Right!

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By kebmo at 04,Jun,20 03:54 other posts of kebmo 
I think that that is staged, disgusting and unrelated to the word de-escalation. I thought you would have googled the word by now Scorps. When I don't know the meaning of a word I always google it. Try it.
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By Scorps at 04,Jun,20 04:16 other posts of Scorps 
Really! Now you wanna insult my intelligence? Did I insult yours, yet?

Here's the definition as you suggest...

reduce the intensity of (a conflict or potentially violent situation).

I posted the disgusting video here because I believe it's genuine, and this is obviously the most read thread. As far as to the correlation to a conversation in another thread. Oh yeah! Words have power and YOUR suggestion impacted me, although I wasn't posting this for you necessarily.
By kebmo at 04,Jun,20 05:06 other posts of kebmo 
"De-escalation, huh?
What does that mean, exactly?"

You asked me.

I strongly doubt that's a valid video. The poster is "Dark Creepy Story". Go to their page and you'll see a shitload of similar videos. I call bullshit. Just because it's on the internet...
By Scorps at 04,Jun,20 05:53 other posts of Scorps 
I knew/know what the word meant/means. I wanted to know what you had in mind with your one word answer. I suppose I should have phrased it differently. Cower, just nod your head in agreement, bow down, take a knee, plead, beg? What exactly is your idea of "de-escaltion towards those with criminal intent? By the way, whatever YOUR opinion is of the video, she surely de-escalated the moment, did she not? If that were me, the video would have gone substantially different.
By kebmo at 04,Jun,20 05:55 other posts of kebmo 
Sorry, I just edited my comment. Check it out. I call bullshit.
De-escalation is Donald Trump's responsibility and he's not doing it. He escalated it.
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By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 06:13 other posts of huxley999 
"I WORK for Black Lives Matter", "the CEO"?

2 clues that this is probably fake as fuck. BLM is a decentralised network without a formal hierarchy.

Let's say, for the sake of argument, that it's "real". One guy playing a pretty sick prank on someone who is either in on the prank, or as gullible as hell. I fail to see what point you are trying to make. I'm guessing it's just deflection from the fact that your beloved POTUS has done nothing to deescalate the horrible situation. Using force to clear Lafayette Park so he could pose with a Bible? A BIBLE!! It's beyond parody, and has rightly drawn criticism from a lot of Ö.. clergy!

I see today that Trump is lashing out at General Jim Mattis.

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How many more clues does the orange fuckwit need before he realises that his current approach is making things worse?

He can bleat as much as he likes about being the guy for "law and order", but the evidence before all our eyes shows that to be chimeric.
By bella! at 04,Jun,20 06:30 other posts of bella! 
Our president looks orange to you, too?
By huxley999 at 04,Jun,20 06:35 other posts of huxley999 
Yep, it's not just your tv!

Early appearance:

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By bella! at 04,Jun,20 09:00 other posts of bella! 
Maybe that's one of his relatives?

By kebmo at 03,Jun,20 15:07 other posts of kebmo 
Derek Chauvin's charges have been updated to second degree murder and the other three officers that stood and did nothing have been charged with aiding & abetting murder.

That's a good thing.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 15:45 other posts of bella! 
This charges might be good and appropriate for the crime committed, other than that, there's nothing good about what happened, what will happen and what future our country faces because of what happened.

By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:24 other posts of ANGEL1227 
It has always amazed me how ignorant our fellow citizens are. Their lack of education, their lack of knowing our world. This country is lucky there's enough smart people to carry the rest of the great unwashed into the future.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 11:34 other posts of bella! 
I'm curious, how do you view yourself, as a leader?
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 11:43 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I believe I bring a different point of view to any discussion. I feel that right or wrong all points should be brought out. To do this, many times I have to take control of the group. I believe I'm a good, maybe great leader.
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 12:09 other posts of bella! 
Thank you for what I believe to be one of your most heartfelt and honest posts.

GREAT LEADERS don't fly solo, they rely on trusted advisors to help them navigate through decisions that impact many. GREAT LEADERS will choose their words carefully so that their message is clear and understood.
By ANGEL1227 at 03,Jun,20 12:17 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Hard to argue with that. Great leaders will surround themselves with trusted, Knowing advisors that they try to listen and act on their info. Do you know if the current president does that?
By bella! at 03,Jun,20 12:35 other posts of bella! 
I would like to think he does. Someone needs to ADVISE him to back away from Twitter and tweeting.

By phart at 01,Jun,20 22:46 other posts of phart 
"If people can riot in person they can vote in person."

I copied and pasted this from a response I read yesterday to a story about the riots.
By ANGEL1227 at 02,Jun,20 12:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
This could be true but it's a big assumption. If this is true then that is true. Insert "probably" between can and vote. There are two distinct parts to your statement.
Rioting and voting. Lets take voting first. What the fuck scares you so much about distance voting? Are you afraid it would make it easier to vote for Biden? It can't be vote fraud. Even republicans have said it would be minimal.
As far as rioters rioting in person, if you think they would form a que and take their turn. I'm good with that.

By Jamie at 30,May,20 08:40 other posts of Jamie 
Who is MaryHall with only 4 points..?
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 09:12 other posts of ANGEL1227 
She just joined. She has some very nice pics

By bella! at 30,May,20 10:09 other posts of bella! 
If MaryHall sent anyone a gift, I suggest that the gifts are destroyed (for points) as quickly as possible. BTW, she has 8 points now.

Current member: MaryHall detected as possible previously banned members:
High probability
PepperWilliams (#614365):
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 10:16 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I must have the kiss of death. Every time I like a new member, he/she was previously banned or they are unsuitable for my eyes to see,,,
By bella! at 30,May,20 10:28 other posts of bella! 
Maybe admin will consider keeping her just for you.
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 11:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I loose so many female chat members. This one, was she a he or did she push the envelope too far?
By Scorps at 30,May,20 11:20 other posts of Scorps 
Biggest give away with the females is, ALL their pictures are taken by someone else. Just another man posing as a chick. Makes absolutely no fucking sense to me whatsoever why it's so prevalent and obvious just like that over on the female side.
By bella! at 30,May,20 11:35 other posts of bella! 
Based on MaryHall now having 10 points, there are might be 5 men that she's real.

By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 11:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Wait a minute,Scorps, have you not heard about a timer on the camera app?--------------------------------------- added after 21 minutesSo, Scorps, what you are saying is that females should take selfies in front of a mirror? Or they should have only 7 pics, one for every day in a week? What about men? if all his picks are taken by someone else then he is a she trying to pass as a man?

By bella! at 30,May,20 11:24 other posts of bella! 
Who knows and in the big picture of things, does it really matter if the profile for MaryHall belongs to a he or a "for real" she? What is FACT is that with HIGH PROBABILITY, admin has detected this profile to belong to a previously banned member.

All morning you've been singing praises to your bestie, but I'm curious if you ever asked her whether you were what she referred to as "the punching bag"?
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 11:57 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I have. In a private msg.

What Admin detects I won't comment on but, if I was him and I had a previously banned member rejoin, I would give that member plenty of rope and then ban him/her if he/she fucks up.

If men (or women) have fun with another member, fake or real, so what? I mean it has to be more fun than saggy tits, walruses,short Australians or a set of cold TWOWARMTTS or chatting about the abuse panel and who locked the voting.

My 'bestie" is Charlie with all my love for him. Here? some members are nice......others?....not so.
By bella! at 30,May,20 12:11 other posts of bella! 
admin does consider member's input and now that you've gone to a premium paid membership, he may consider it valuable input.
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 12:15 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You know I have to be a member a whole year before I can play Michael the Archangel. Previous times don't count.
Aren't you happy?
By Skittles at 30,May,20 12:52 other posts of Skittles 
you might not last another year with all those old parts Saggy old rat
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By bella! at 30,May,20 13:02 other posts of bella! 
I believe that English is your first language, as it is mine. What you wrote appears to be English but makes no sense to me. Is it some type of riddle?

So often you do choose to talk in riddles so what does being a member for an entire year in order to "play Michael the Archangel" mean?

Also, are you ever able to end a post without an emoticon?
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 13:42 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Old Michael is a senior, powerful angel and he will eventually bring order to kaos.he also protects the innocent and punishes the guilty.I forget that my references only work with some very specific people.
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I'm not sure I would be any good as a judge. I'm not wired that way. The emoticon took the place of "in my opinion". You will notice it's almost always
It's the closest I can come to KISS MY ASS AND not say it

By bella! at 30,May,20 13:53 other posts of bella! 
Feel free to post your chaos elsewhere.
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 14:04 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Is that how it's spelled. My spell checker needs to go back to school.
I do post it in other threads too
By bella! at 30,May,20 14:48 other posts of bella! 
Surely, you are "not that blonde"? I'll break it down to the simplest form possible. If you feel the need to use emoticons or emojis to express to me, in essence, to kiss your ass, I feel it's time for you to move along and post elsewhere.
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 16:36 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Ok. It's used generically but not aimed at anyone in particular. But if this is your idea of co-exist, so be it. I'll be on my thread copy/pasting the news.
By bella! at 30,May,20 17:34 other posts of bella! 
Do you like, allow, tolerate people coming to your "home" and being disrespectful to you? Would you encourage that "guest" to return? I doubt it. You do it time and time again, if someone is rude or abrasive to you, you have choices. You can sling it back, you can address the rudeness in a more "dignified" way OR you can ignore them altogether. I've noticed that you end many of your posts to me with . Hey, if that emoji/emoticon is your way of saying ""kiss my ass" then it's time for you to move along. I thought we could coexist and I wanted it to work but you just can't help yourself when it comes to me.

By Jamie at 30,May,20 17:05 other posts of Jamie 
I seen that wedding pic for the pass years I being here

By bella! at 01,Jun,20 11:27 other posts of bella! 
Member #618633, MaryHall, was reported as a profile using copytght/stolen pictures by Ollie . The voting members agreed and MaryHall is now POOF!
By Jamie at 01,Jun,20 14:13 other posts of Jamie 
She had over 250 points I think
By bella! at 01,Jun,20 15:57 other posts of bella! 
That is mighty impressive if she had amassed 250 points in 48 hours. It just shows you that many SYD/SYC, Showitoff members are a good group of people! Members appreciate and praise honest and "real members" as well as deceptive members. All you need to do is to post good or commercial quality nudes and you're sure to become a site favorite!
By Jamie at 01,Jun,20 16:30 other posts of Jamie 
Like /member.php?w=614508 she add pic and deleted them
By bella! at 01,Jun,20 16:34 other posts of bella! 
Who is member #614508?
By Jamie at 01,Jun,20 16:40 other posts of Jamie 
Annashows's only registered users can see external links
By bella! at 01,Jun,20 16:50 other posts of bella! 
If you can show that Annashows has posted internet pictures, report her.
By Jamie at 01,Jun,20 16:53 other posts of Jamie 
Don't know if mother. Com is legit

By bella! at 01,Jun,20 16:20 other posts of bella! 
I continue to see this woman around town, she appears to be living in a Toyota which is packed with what is most likely, all of her personal and earthly belongings.

This makes me wonder if there are more homeless men or women. What are your thoughts? I tend to think it might be men but I don't know whether there are stats on this.

By CountryCouple54 at 30,May,20 23:24 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Ok you fucks. George Floyd's death has been avenged. The officer has been arrested for murder. The other officers will be suspended without pay. Justice has been served. Let the justice system do their job. These fucks burning down cities, is just an excuse to be a low life. My son goes in at midnight. If something happens to him. I will hunt every last mother fucker down, and put a bullet through their head.
By bella! at 31,May,20 01:08 other posts of bella! 
Prayer for Police

Oh Almighty God, whose great power and eternal wisdom
embraces the universe.
Watch over all policemen and law enforcement officers.
Father in Heaven please give them the strength,
courage and perseverance to endure
The unjust condemnation, danger, and physical abuse
to which they are at times subjected.
We recommend them to your loving care because their duty is dangerous.
Dear God, grant these brave men your almighty protection,
Unite them safely with their families after duty has ended.

- Author Unknown

By Scorps at 31,May,20 03:20 other posts of Scorps 
Best wishes for the safety of your Son.

I'm personally disturbed to see how many thugs, low lifes, and pieces of trash walk freely amongst us, so unnerving! Certainly an interesting side note, is that all the the city's experiencing the criminal behavior, are liberal run shitholes. What a coincidence... The behavior of these degenerates is completely uncalled for & accomplishing NOTHING! The Mayor and Governor of Minneapolis should step down as they are totally inept. Disgraceful!
By dgraff at 31,May,20 07:23 other posts of dgraff 
We need a few more Paul kerseyís in every city watch the movie death wish 1 2 or 3 if you wanna know who he was the first one is based on a true story Charles Bronson plays the part of Paul

By bella! at 31,May,20 09:16 other posts of bella! 
Intolerance, hatred, lack of education and the feeling of entitlement and superiority contribute to the mess our country is in, whether we live in a liberal shithole, or not.

I don't know how we, as a country, can fix our mess but I hold hold out hope that we aren't too far gone and are fixable.

By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 06:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I read some of these lowlifes are from other states. Itís time to round up all these people and incarcerate them. Demos are ok. Looting and destroying is not
CC hope your son is safe
By Skittles at 31,May,20 08:59 other posts of Skittles 
Why are you commenting here Saggy? You support all these scumbags out looting and burning.
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 09:47 other posts of ANGEL1227 
By bella! at 31,May,20 10:07 other posts of bella! 
I don't hate you, I doubt anyone hates you. Life is about making choices.
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 10:15 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I don't need an explanation on how you feel about me, much less about other members. If you want to help, help. Otherwise go back to your circle of haters. The only reason I posted is because I'm tired of Skittles. I know, you feel the same about me but, from now on, if you have a comment do so in my thread.
By bella! at 31,May,20 10:38 other posts of bella! 
I doubt you have any intimation of who I am or how I feel about you.

Help? "Violence begets violence".
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 10:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Your words. I believe everyone is entitled to justice. I believe everyone is entitled to protection even if that someone breaks the law. Violence is not my way. I use the word and my mouth.
I believe you are a Midwestern middle age woman with some success at work. You are a little past your prime but still have enough "HOT SAUCE" to bring excitement to a man. Being from the Midwest, you have a limited view of the world but are open minded enough to give other world ideas a chance. You don't discriminate but get a bad taste in your mouth if that idea does not come from a wasp. Last but not least, you hold a grudge for ever.
By phart at 31,May,20 11:51 other posts of phart 
2warm, your link to the story of a driver running over a protester is what will become the norm shortly.Like I said in that thread,nothing I want to do,but people driving along a public road have a right to protect themselves from these asshole rioters.
What I DON"T understand,and Perhaps Countrycouple can explain,is why the cops just stand back and let the rioters burn and rob and cause chaos? Why is there not just bus loads of rioter being delt with each night? For the law to stand back and do nothing,leaves the citizens no choice but to provide their own protection and defend themselves. Which of course the rioters will riot again if that happens.
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 14:03 other posts of ANGEL1227 
First. The lady turned into that street on purpose.
As far as arresting trouble makers, I'm all for it. Why they don't? I don't understand it either

By bella! at 31,May,20 12:40 other posts of bella! 
I live in Michigan, I've always lived in Michigan. Regardless of where I live, the world is a BIG place and yes, my views may be limited.

And perhaps you might be open to sharing with me via private message, exactly what you feel my grudge is.

By Scorps at 31,May,20 16:20 other posts of Scorps 
I don't "hate your guts" whatsoever. I hate many of your radical views on many things, I don't even give a shit if you hate our President, but he's our President, period! I couldn't stand Obama's ass but when he said or did something rational I had the good sense to give him credit. I was up in Washington the day a person attempted to breach the white house and bring harm to Obama, the secret service shot the bastard dead. I applauded that move as MY President whether I liked him or not should be kept safe at all cost for my country, the greatest country on earth, despite some of our issues. Will you and other liberals say the same. No, I've seen umpteen people speak of his death. It's disgusting! I have never once seen you give the man credit for ANYTHING. Which is complete bullshit and you know it! I'm happy to see that you acknowledge that the behavior of the lowlifes should not be tolerated. But if people block me in or I feel in danger I would run the motherfuckers over too. I will NOT be another Reginald Denny, that you can take to the bank.
By phart at 31,May,20 18:59 other posts of phart 
If I am minding my own bussiness,using a public road and a group of thugs come towards me blocking my path delibratly,well, ,a group of rioters,vs 350 hp they can move or get moved until there is enough to act as wheel chocks.
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 20:01 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You would not consider backing up? How about if the group is peaceful?
By phart at 31,May,20 21:20 other posts of phart 
OF course I would consider backing up.But just as with the Fedex truck,sometimes the crowd SURROUNDS. I am surprised that driver showed the restraint he did.
BUT READ the link I sent you,the rioters, or protesters,can be ask to move by law enforcement out of the way of the public using public property. once told, they are in violation ,what are their motives if they are willing to do that? Friendly, Perhaps some,but not all. THe fed ex driver saw guns, and he got the hell out of dodge. And he was pulling doubles, try backing those.He had no option but get beat up and robbed or drive thru.

By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 19:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
First, somewhere in the site history you will find my post the day after the elections that brought Trump to power. I posted, Right or wrong, he is now my president. Since then I want him out. Not dead.
I give him credit for
He invited the Taliban to Camp David
He gave Turkey a green light to invade Syria and attack our Kurdish allies
He asked the president of Ukraine to investigate Hunter Biden
He used his emergency authority to circumvent Congress on the border wall
He lost a needless government shutdown fight.
He allowed the pandemic to kill thousands needlessly

HATING MY RADICAL VIEWS (views held by at least half the country)AND CALLING ME NAMES IS HATING ME.
By Skittles at 01,Jun,20 08:47 other posts of Skittles 
Cut N Paste Saggy Granny! Get a life!!

Or, get back to work at Denny's! Those Grand Slam's are not self-serve!!!

By ANGEL1227 at 01,Jun,20 06:58 other posts of ANGEL1227 
After careful consideration and seeing all the rioting, I've come up with a theory. This is one of Trumps way to get us away from blaming him for the pandemic. I mean, how did he know he had to hide in the bunker? He's doing his MAGA thing. He's deviding the country on purpose. He's bringing outside agitators from his shut down rallies to fire up the people. But, right or wrong, he's my president.

By Skittles at 31,May,20 21:04 other posts of Skittles 
So.... that saggy cunt Angel1227... whinging and crying about her fake surgery...

The pic she posted as her post surgery pic.. yeah, it was found on the Internet!!

100% predicted!! She is fake and lies about EVERYTHING
By bella! at 31,May,20 22:26 other posts of bella! 
Please be nice to her and to everyone in this thread.

By dgraff at 29,May,20 22:56 other posts of dgraff 
I seen a post one time about how much lixsipsucket does for this site just being curious I go to the activity meter and low and be hold what do I see Bella at 1294 and even Dgraff at 405 then there is lixsipsucket at 390 now who is doing what for this site
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 07:55 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraff, much of the contribution to the site is immeasurable. Her biggest contributions are her pages. She has many exiting videos an explicit pics. The men love it and wank to them. That alone trumps your activity meter. Sure, yo PM and do some postings on the threads, but your motorized stool does nothing for men's libidos. Bella is pretty much the same. She posts a lot, and she's got a nice set of Tatas, but nothing to compare with Lix's. And let's not forget that, right or wrong, she chairs a whole slew of member groups.
You guys can continue uploading pics of kitticats and
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Other things
By dgraff at 30,May,20 08:54 other posts of dgraff 
We must see a little different you might have sand in your eyes when ever I see a picture of her I throw up a little in the back of my mouth and I canít not look because she plasters her pictures every fucking weíre Iím afraid Iím going to go blind from seeing her or maybe she will turn me in to stone
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 09:06 other posts of ANGEL1227 
That sounds like a personal problem. I had a BF that would come watching me undress. There's no rule you have to like her, physically or mentally. I don't think for a second you matter anything to her.
By dgraff at 30,May,20 09:15 other posts of dgraff 
If I donít matter to her then why is she always mentioning me and why does she always change her reason for black listing me my why
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Clearly Iím on her mind 24/7 unless she is fantasizing about what it would be like to be with a real man instead of a midget
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 09:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I won't touch that last one but, if I may be gross, I think about a bowel movement every day. Maybe???????????
By dgraff at 30,May,20 22:54 other posts of dgraff 
Of course you do realize that the size and wealth of a man has nothing to do with what is in his pants or his wallet itís what is in his heart
By ANGEL1227 at 31,May,20 07:05 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You should read The Heart Is A Lonely Hunter By Carson McCuller
By dgraff at 31,May,20 07:14 other posts of dgraff 
OMG I canít sit still long enough to get past the introduction to the book

By bella! at 30,May,20 10:49 other posts of bella! 
I don't know, dgraff, I think your (WHY?) has remained the same for a while.

It surprises that she refers to you in this way; "is the biggest wanker on this site, he is a vulgar mouthed, trouble maker, liar, bullshit artist,,,,,,,"

When I read that, I said, "surely, she has dgraff mixed up with someone else!" I stopped short of your entire (WHY?) and rather then using an ellipsis, I chose commas.

By bella! at 30,May,20 10:35 other posts of bella! 
Your exchange of thoughts were with dgraff, there was absolutely no need for you to bring my name into your response. That's how you like to roll, eh?
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 11:18 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Baby, you have a surprising thin skin. All I said was
Bella is pretty much the same. She posts a lot, and she's got a nice set of Tatas, but nothing to compare with Lix's. maybe you thought I was comparing Tatas. I meant the huge amount of pics and videos the GOOD DAY MATES two posted

Let me agree with you about "Your exchange of thoughts were with dgraff"but Dgraff mentioned you first

I seen a post one time about how much lixsipsucket does for this site just being curious I go to the activity meter and low and be hold what do I see Bella at 1294 and even Dgraff at 405 then there is lixsipsucket at 390 now who is doing what for this site

That was posted on the 29TH. Well before my post
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By Skittles at 30,May,20 08:10 other posts of Skittles 
LIX and the Saggy Granny are site boner killers. The only ones wanking to them have seeing eye dogs...

The only thing I would put in either of those lardos is a harpoon!
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 08:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
littlesissieclittie what would you do with a pair of pussies?? Go back to sucking Daddy's cock.
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By bella! at 29,May,20 04:18 other posts of bella! 
This is a copy and paste that I found very interesting. It was made by a prominent member with regard to the racial tension in Minneapolis, Minnesota.

"you people cant even work out your differences between black and white, and hate is something you must all be taught at school, judging by they way the country behaves, you see it here every day, black/white, class, and even your grammar police love to toss shit at each other, it must be a fucked up boring arse country, so much bitching and no fixing ... just yell at each some more and show us all that America isn't great, its just full of hot air, guns and self righteousness, all trying to one up each other useless shit, and when the real shit hits the fan, you all start the shit tossing again, blame game everyone, and at the end of it all, it MUST BE TRUMP that caused it. he gets the blame for everything now.. "

What was even more interesting, this post was made minutes prior and in yet another thread.

"gee not only are they rioting in the streets again in ermerryka, but the brawling troll and her punching bag are also rolling it all around forum and bring 'us aussies' into IT's shit fight, who cares anymore what happens over there, go get your guns and sort it the fuck out once and for all... who really cares who mentions what here , only a hagged old troll with piles lm guessing... if IT wants to spends IT's time trying to out wit and up talk Itself, be the weather broadcaster, the news presenter, the comedic relief, we should all chip in and buy IT a bus ticket to minniapolis and see if its big mouth gets it attention there.. lm sure that city needs enlightening with its allknowing powers of deduction"

If this isn't a reflection of a person whose head and heart are full of hate and a mouth full of lies, I don't know what is! All I can say is WOW!
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 07:48 other posts of ANGEL1227 
There was a response to the post. It was honest and up front. One problem with the forums is that one can insinuate without mentioning names. That post was made by Lix. I didn't like it or agree to it but, that's Lix.
By bella! at 29,May,20 11:58 other posts of bella! 
Yes, you did respond to her post in your thread however, her post minutes before and in Aussieman187's thread she referred to me as the "brawling troll" and quite possibly you might be what she referred to as "her punching bag". Then she goes on to say "rolling it all around forum and bring 'us aussies' into IT's shit fight". Really? There was nothing said to bait her or any part of this world to engage in anything, shit fight or not. Does she consider herself the reigning BOSS BITCH? It's sad that her 400 plus groups and 2,000 plus friends don't keep her busy and that she has time on her hands to post something like that. As I said, that post is a true indication of the HATE she allows to occupy space in her head and heart. She is truly a prime example of why this world is the way it is.

To all, if you feel the need to convey my sentiments along to her, please do, but I do feel the BOSS BITCH will find them on her own.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 12:21 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I don't think Aussie has you blocked. You could rebut her post with some copy/paste. She does read it.
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I, on my part, asked, "her punching bag are also rolling it all around forum". Who is her punching bag?
By bella! at 29,May,20 13:18 other posts of bella! 
My rebuttal is right here.

Just so you know, he blacklisted me years ago, well after any of my posted comments on his pictures and after I verified him. You boast about being around for years, didn't your friend/friends tell you that I called her out in the forum after she had words to say about me being prejudiced and intolerant toward people? Oh, yeah and after all that, she has the balls to whine about Australia being overrun by immigrants and basically, the Muslims were the worst of all. For sure, she is a frikken hypocrite. When that all went down, she hadn't blacklisted me, nor I, her. Blacklisting by her of me probably happened a short time after. Yeah, and my guess is that she had her lap dog blacklist sometime after that. What's amusing about the couple is that 2 years ago, when I authored STUFF, JUST STUFF, her lap dog had already blacklisted me but had to unblacklist me to post in that thread. Once done, he blacklisted me again. I bitched to admin about my blacklister posting in my thread and basically admin laughed at me and told me if I didn't want lap dog posting in my thread that I needed to blacklist him back and I did just that. And once lap dog wasn't able to access my thread, he made another STUFF, JUST STUFF thread, which as you can see is dated a month or two behind mine.

Those two are something else! I know you think the world of them, good for you, good for them! YOU EARNED every kiss that she sent you, displayed on your page.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 13:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Both of you will continue to have bad feelings towards each other. It's no longer a simple she said, they said. Now it's mostly like the Hatfield and McCoys. Well, if you compose a new thread stating whatever you want them to know, they like you and me, read posts off-line. They are my friends and I like them very much, but, I don't apologize for them or you either. Both of you have said things, not related to me, that I didn't like. Good hunting.
By bella! at 29,May,20 14:27 other posts of bella! 
I don't expect any apology, not from you, not from them. All I've asked you to do is not incite shit here and I would appreciate it you didn't take things to lap dog's thread to elicit shit there. Do you think you're capable of that?
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 16:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I won't go out of my way to start shit. Sometimes shit happens, but I don't have the energy for a back-and-forth
By bella! at 29,May,20 16:58 other posts of bella! 
Thank you, but sometimes I feel that you do when things I say are exported out of this thread and posted elsewhere. C
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 17:44 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Let's make a distinction between my thread and all others. Many times I like to rebut a post but I am long winded and I also like to copy/paste. I can't do that in your thread or other threads. I export to my thread and work on it.
On Aussie's thread, many times the damage is done. I'm one more comment maker.
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I also refer you to this blog. I'm tired.

By aoneeyedmonster at 30,May,20 14:28 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Living in the wild is lonely. I think the aussie gang needs to integrate with society more to understand what's going on in the world. It's easy to criticize from afar when you have no idea what's really going on.

By dgraff at 29,May,20 09:24 other posts of dgraff 
She should talk about hate she hated me sense the day she got to this site and thatís okay because the feelings are mutual
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 09:56 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Dgraf, hate between two people is generally extreme dislike for each other
By Skittles at 29,May,20 22:08 other posts of Skittles 
Angel Cunt- I see yer fake heart surgery is keeping you from posting...
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 06:36 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Do I care? I'm on an easy recliner chair with my laptop, tablet, phone, and TV/Roku remotes. The only entertainment is the news and SYC. I can type and walk to the bathroom. That's it. In my blog I said I didn't want to chat. Typing is not too bad.
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Skittles, in another thread you made fun of my dead Dad. Shame on you. Have you no shame? You want to engage me, little cunt? Bring it on, but, leave the memory of a warrior and fantastic father, husband, and man alone.
By Skittles at 30,May,20 08:04 other posts of Skittles 
I rest my case--- you just type in lies to get attention. I doubt your dead rat daddy was even in the military. Your whole trailer is filled with rats!
By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 08:15 other posts of ANGEL1227 
This was posted in my thread. It was a rebuttal to my thread about my Dad.


Would you say this little cunt, SKITTLES, (AKA littlesissieclittie) is a pice of shit?

By ANGEL1227 at 30,May,20 11:24 other posts of ANGEL1227 

By bella! at 30,May,20 13:46 other posts of bella! 
I saw a contest title that made me say "hmmmmm.....?". It was "I Just Love Cock men only". I wonder if the host was worried that he was going to have to deal with a random pussy picture being submitted by one of the few women who do compete in the photo contests?


By bella! at 28,May,20 11:11 other posts of bella! 
It's beyond "heated" in Minneapolis, Minnesota over the death of George Floyd. The people are rioting.
By kebmo at 29,May,20 05:30 other posts of kebmo 
Unbelievable is a word that I wish would be appropriate here but it's not. It's very believable because it just keeps happening over and over.

I saw this and I feel it's true:
By bella! at 29,May,20 05:40 other posts of bella! 
It is UNBELIEVABLE and it does continue to happen over and over. Several days ago and prior to this even happening, I asked another member if he thought that there was similar unrest and racial tension in his country. I'm going to ask you the same question regarding Canada, our neighbor.
By kebmo at 29,May,20 05:45 other posts of kebmo 
The last time shit hit the fan in Canada, although not nearly as bad as this, was in 2011 when the Vancouver Canucks hockey team LOST. They shamed the city, the country and all hockey fans.

only registered users can see external links
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Canada does have racial problems but not nearly on the scale of the US.
By bella! at 29,May,20 05:56 other posts of bella! 
Thanks, but not my question. Do you feel that there is racial tension in Canada, yes or no? No need to expound on your response, unless you would like too.

By bella! at 29,May,20 06:32 other posts of bella! 
Thank you for your response. Canada's racial issues must be small scale because the world doesn't hear about them.

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:59 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Canada seems to be more peaceful than other countries, but, The UK, France, Spain, Germany and Hong kong come to mind

By Scorps at 29,May,20 05:56 other posts of Scorps 
@ Kebmo You know what else keeps happening over and over and over and over? And even MORESO? In other words... Faaaar greater numbers?
By bella! at 29,May,20 05:59 other posts of bella! 
What keeps happening?
By Scorps at 29,May,20 06:15 other posts of Scorps 
Blacks killing blacks! Anyone outraged over that?!

Fact is, MORE white people are killed by police than black people. Where's that outrage?! Or is that just ok?

There's not a single chance that the death caused by the officer was from a power hungry, sadistic person, huh? Not a chance in hell huh? His actions were SOLELY because the guy was black, right?! Prove it!
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It's getting to the point where black people can do no wrong, and if you try and punish them, you're a racist! WTF kinda bullshit is that?! You're driving down the street with expired and or stolen plates, I pull you over, you act like a fucking complete jack-off not following my requests, once I figure out who the fuck you are, you have NO driver's license, and three warrants for your arrest for various other things. Now, how is the officer a racist for doing his job? (btw this is just an example of some reality tv I saw recently, nothing to do with George.) But the entire time the policeman was being accused of being a racist not only by the guy but by some bystanders. I'm just personally sick of the race baiting and divisions. As if all black people are saints with not a racist bone amongst the lot of them. That's fucking bullshit, racism lives in ALL races, period! Just like that fucking idiot that got killed in "Ferguson, Mo." not far from me.
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There's an example of a reasonably justifiable killing (Michael Brown), hence no charges EVER being brought against the officer (Darren Wilson). But I bet you he's being lumped into "all the poor black people being killed by white police officers movement" right?

So if a black police officer shoots or kills a white guy should white people IMMEDIATELY start screaming racist? Think it hasn't happened? Let me guess... There's just absolutely no way that a black cop could ever be racist, right?
By kebmo at 29,May,20 06:22 other posts of kebmo 
I saw on the CBC News that the rioters were about half and half black and white...for your information.
Scorps, be VERY clear on one thing:

If the police officer didn't murder Mr. Floyd this would NOT have happened. Agreed?
By Scorps at 29,May,20 07:37 other posts of Scorps 
Are you, Kebmo, trying to justify the actions of those criminals? Whether or not it may very well be the cause of the actions, are you saying it's ok? I mean... Every single time a citizen is injured or killed on any given day in any given city, should violence and looting erupt? Furthermore, every single time a black person is involved in such a thing it's automatically because of racism, why is that? Did the video reveal the cop calling him a nig'r while he was kneeling on his neck? How did it become a racial thing? Do help me understand.

By bella! at 29,May,20 06:35 other posts of bella! 
So statistics say that more white people are killed by our police than black? What's that saying about our police?

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 07:21 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Scorps. You are mixing several truths that push against each other. White people were never linched by a black mob. White people were never chained to a pickup and dragged all over. White people didn't have to pass through stop and search. You've never had to think twice about jogging through a white neighborhood. You once said that I don't know how to read statistics. Well, you are right, whites did die by cop in bigger numbers than blacks. What you dont mention is that blacks comprise about 12% of the population. If you correlate one piece of data to the other, the death of black men by cop is very high. As far as black men killing black men, it's the same with white men killing white men. In their neighborhood it stands to reason.

By Scorps at 29,May,20 07:57 other posts of Scorps 
I wasn't going to respond to your idiocy at all, but I changed my mind.

1st what the fuck do guns have to do with this topic? No gun was used...

2nd "no white people were ever linched by a black mob" you don't know shit from shinola, you're just saying whatever the fuck you wanna say.

3rd white people are constantly stopped and frisked every single day at every airport.

4th some horrific things have been done to some black people undoubtedly, but conversely some really horrific shit has been done to white people at the hands of black people. Only you and some other nitwits fool yourselves into believing the poor black people are all innocent as pure snow. In which case I say to you, shut the fuck up stupid!

Statistics are statistics! While you wanna point them out for YOUR convenience. When they (black people and you white morons) start screaming blacks are disproportionately pulled over more than whites, ESPECIALLY in black neighborhoods, don't forget to mention the fact that there's only a 5% population of white people in that area, so of course there are gonna be more blacks pulled over than whites, duh! But that just wouldn't fit your narrative of rampant racism, now would it?
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:10 other posts of ANGEL1227 
2nd "no white people were ever linched by a black mob" you don't know shit from shinola, you're just saying whatever the fuck you wanna say.

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1st what the fuck do guns have to do with this topic? No gun was used..

Most killings are with guns. Are you going to deny that?

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
You really believe airport security is the same as stop and search? (Most stop and search was done to blacks) they didn't have a choise. Airport security is optional.

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:27 other posts of ANGEL1227 
In which case I say to you, shut the fuck up stupid!


By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:30 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Statistics are statistics! While you wanna point them out for YOUR convenience. When they (black people and you white morons) start screaming blacks are disproportionately pulled over more than whites, ESPECIALLY in black neighborhoods, don't forget to mention the fact that there's only a 5% population of white people in that area, so of course there are gonna be more blacks pulled over than whites, duh! But that just wouldn't fit your narrative of rampant racism, now would it?

Sure, but it doesn't happen in white neighborhoods unless you are black

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:45 other posts of ANGEL1227 
OBTW, I changed my mind. That applies if you do have a mind

By Scorps at 29,May,20 05:52 other posts of Scorps 
@ Bella! You mean the thugs and criminals are running rampant!? Them fuckers should all be incarcerated and or shot! Betcha the shit would stop happening if they feared dying because of their actions. But instead, they are allowed, even encouraged by some, with NO repercussions. All it does is remove the sadness of a life stupidly lost and replace it with anger and more racial divisions as a bulk of the pieces of shit doing the damage and stealing are... Black!
By kebmo at 29,May,20 06:01 other posts of kebmo 
Uh, Scorps, read what you just wrote and think of the same words referring to the police that murder blacks. If the police didn't murder Mr. Floyd this wouldn't have happened.

By bella! at 29,May,20 06:08 other posts of bella! 
Hey, I've been around the block a couple of times and I'm m old enough to know that stupid choices are not limited or unique to people of any specific race, creed or culture.

By bella! at 29,May,20 06:15 other posts of bella! 
What are your thoughts on the white woman who called 9-1-1 on the black man who was bird watching in New York's Central Park?

All I can say is that this is one effed up and hateful white woman.

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By kebmo at 29,May,20 06:18 other posts of kebmo 
Bella I saw that. Did you know that she gave her dog up to the SPCA after this because of the way she may have been choking it?
By bella! at 29,May,20 06:55 other posts of bella! 
Yes, I heard that she surrendered her dog and although this video says she was placed on "administrative leave", I believe that news accounts reported that she was fired.

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The reason that I posted this video was that you could hear in the tone of her voice, Amy Cooper wanted the 9-1-1 police dispatcher to believe that her life was in jeopardy. My guess is that with no job and no dog, Ms. Cooper will be able to get outta town a whole lot faster.

By Scorps at 29,May,20 06:43 other posts of Scorps 
She disgusts me and is an embarrassment. She deserves all that happens to her as a result. That all came from her soul. She's a disgrace to white people.
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Oh and btw... THAT was clearly some racist shit there! Unlike some of these deaths, etc. at the hands of police officers.
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 07:41 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Perhaps your definition of racist is different from mine but in the ER were I work, more cops refer to blacks as mother f&&&rs, bums, and things I can't post here. They don't do that with whites.
By Scorps at 29,May,20 08:05 other posts of Scorps 
I don't believe you and think your fulla shit, period!

So now if I call a black person a motherfucker or a bum I'm a racist? How about an ignorant cocksucker? Piece of shit? Are those a bit strong, do those qualify as racist remarks? Imagine if I call the ones that qualify for it, criminals. >gasps< shame on me!
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Oh and if you've heard or witnessed REAL racist comments from an official and YOU didn't do or say anything about it to their or your superiors, what does that say about you?
By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:38 other posts of ANGEL1227 
OMG, you don't believe me!!!!!AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHH
By phart at 29,May,20 10:05 other posts of phart 
The fact is the cop fucked up and the guy died of probably a heart attack.If you can scream or speak that means you are breathing because it takes air leaving past the vocal cords to make sound.
A peaceful march down main street,speaches at the park,a petion, some tv coverage, sure,that is freedom of speech and those folks have something to say.
BUT To burn down buildings and create general chaos in a city,that is terrorism and should be brought to a screeching halt by military force if need be.
By huxley999 at 29,May,20 12:51 other posts of huxley999 
Wrong again, phart.

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I hope everyone can row back from what is a terrible situation. The poisonous views in this thread make me not want to comment further. The US sure is a troubled Nation.

By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 13:00 other posts of ANGEL1227 
On Friday morning, state police arrested a CNN crew while they were reporting about the unrest on live television.

"A black reporter from CNN was arrested while legally covering the protests in Minneapolis," the network pointedly noted. "A white reporter also on the ground was not."


By bella! at 28,May,20 14:25 other posts of bella! 
At 11:11, I make a post about tension running high in Minneapolis, Minnesota with the police force used which resulted in the death of George Floyd.

What is interesting is that there are a couple of posts made by ANGEL1227 to preexisting posts thereby burying my current topic for discussion. Lo and behold at 11:48 there's a post is made about Minnesota in, guess where.....ANGEL1227's thread.

So rather than attempting to discuss anything here, direct your thoughts to her thread.
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The news reports called the happenings in Minneapolis protests, my eyes say it was much more than a protest.

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By ANGEL1227 at 28,May,20 15:40 other posts of ANGEL1227 
At 1535 (when I read this post) I asked myself, "WTF?"
So,let me get this right. If someone reports on a story first, no one else can report on it? What about ABC, NBC,CBS? YOUTUBE EVEN? BTW, thanks for the plug.
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You are so much smarter than me. Who would have thought looking at the news could suggest a new thread?
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By bella! at 28,May,20 16:09 other posts of bella! 
You've been pissing and moaning about guns, Trump and SrCums trashing your page for days.

By all means, hijack whatever you like from whomever you like and take it to your thread. Perhaps you can get a discussion going and maintain a civil attitude and vocabulary.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,May,20 16:14 other posts of ANGEL1227 
I'm flattered. You've been checking me out, but, the truth. Whenever you get pissed about something, you get bitchy. Pissy smelling but, mostly bitchy.
By bella! at 28,May,20 16:25 other posts of bella! 
I'm happy that you feel flattered. I've known all along that you, as well as some of your associates, lack originality.
By ANGEL1227 at 28,May,20 19:31 other posts of ANGEL1227 
So says the lady with meatloaf on her thread

By dgraff at 28,May,20 19:40 other posts of dgraff 
Itís a damn riot not a protest I seen this happen before in Ohio back in the early 1970s
By kebmo at 28,May,20 21:31 other posts of kebmo 
Dgraff, are you referring to the Kent State University riots?

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The Lynyrd Skynyrd Band was pissed off at Neil's song so they wrote Sweet Home Alabama.
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By dgraff at 28,May,20 21:43 other posts of dgraff 
Iím not sure kebmo I was pretty young we were on a family vacation going through a city in Ohio and the police gave us an escort around the riot they told us to keep moving and donít look back we traveled up in to Michigan then in to Canada to see Niagaraís falls and some garden of flowers
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Iím thinking it was 1971 or 1972
By kebmo at 28,May,20 21:44 other posts of kebmo 
Sorry I fucked up my question to you.

By bella! at 28,May,20 22:28 other posts of bella! 
I Google'd Kent State University killings, they happened on May 4, 1970. The tragedy took place 50 years ago, this month. Is it possible that your family trip to Niagara Falls happened in 1970?
By dgraff at 28,May,20 22:32 other posts of dgraff 
That could be I would have been 7 going on 8 that sounds about right

By bella! at 28,May,20 22:18 other posts of bella! 
Neil Young certainly did write Southern Man however the song about the Kent State University protests the Vietnam War was, OHIO.

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Gotta get down to it
Soldiers are cutting us down
Should have been done long ago.
What if you knew her
And found her dead on the ground
How can you run when you know?

Tin soldiers and Nixon coming,
We're finally on our own.
This summer I hear the drumming,
Four dead in Ohio.

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By ANGEL1227 at 29,May,20 08:57 other posts of ANGEL1227 
The killings took place during a peace rally against the expanding involvement of the Vietnam War into neutral Cambodia by United States military forces as well as the National Guard presence on campus. ... The fatal shootings triggered immediate and massive outrage at campuses around the country.

The riots were by mixed groups and happened in many schools. If I remember correctly, a member of the school's ROTC or maybe a member of the national guard shot by mistake one of the protesters. A real tragedy

By kebmo at 29,May,20 01:22 other posts of kebmo 
"A white woman from the South complained after Sammy Davis Jr. used the pool at a Las Vegas hotel and the manager had it drained and refilled."

I just watched a two hour special on PBS. It's called American Masters and this one was called Sammy Davis Jr.: I've Gotta Be Me. If you know who he was, you'll love it. He lead an amazing life.

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By bella! at 29,May,20 04:14 other posts of bella! 
If you feel it's that good, I will watch it later when I'm fully awake.

By bella! at 27,May,20 20:49 other posts of bella! 
Let's talk food!

A number of years ago, 2nice posted a recipe for deviled eggs that were YUM! JustWill has shared his mother's recipe for tuna noodle casserole and the other day, a member mentioned that his beef casserole was almost finished cooking and the day before, he was preparing lamb.

Exactly what is it that you enjoy preparing and/or eating?
By Smoothmann at 27,May,20 21:21 other posts of Smoothmann 
I like too make a meatloaf and scalluped potatos!
By bella! at 27,May,20 21:47 other posts of bella! 
Meatloaf is a glorified hamburger, I enjoy a good hamburger every now and then as well as MEATLOAF! Strangely, when I have red meat, I enjoy it cooked medium, I love the pink, but I would NEVER consider eating meatloaf that wasn't fully cooked. Cuckoo!

Back to your meatloaf and scalloped potatoes, is there anything special that you do to it, seasoning, a special sauce, etc? Do you prepare your scalloped potatoes from scratch? Tell me more, tell us more! Please?
By dgraff at 28,May,20 06:09 other posts of dgraff 
Hamburger in Pennsylvania right now is 9 dollars a pound all most half of what I can buy a live lobster 🦞 for screw that no hamburger for me until the craziness is over
By Skittles at 28,May,20 08:33 other posts of Skittles 
Exactly... open the processing plants back up! I don't want to pay $45 for a hamburger in NYC this summer

By ANGEL1227 at 28,May,20 12:22 other posts of ANGEL1227 
If you know how to cook it meatloaf is not glorified hamburger.
I chop onions, green olives, garlic powder and cloves, chopped tomatoes and with a spaghetti sauce on top. I cook it for 50 minutes and check. Fifteen minutes before i take it out I surround the meat with mashed potatoes cooked on top of stove. I like to take the mashed and mix it with the spaghetti sauce. I garnish with green olives on toothpicks.

By kebmo at 28,May,20 15:44 other posts of kebmo 
Mmmmmmeatloaf sandwiches! I often make a big meatloaf and eat it for a couple of days and freeze half of it for later. I always get in a couple of meatloaf, cheddar cheese, tomato, lettuce and mayo sandwiches.

As for the cost and availability of ground beef, Canada now has a handle on the cleanliness of our meat processing plants and the safety of the people that work in them so it's back to normal.

Another thing that is awesome is creamed corn on your mashed potatoes!
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By phart at 28,May,20 21:54 other posts of phart 
UM,and make that cream corn with "Ambrosia" sweet corn!
a quick google,
"Ambrosia" is a sugar-enhanced sweet corn (Zea mays) variety with bicolored kernels and a seed-to-harvest duration of 68 to 72 days. Growing "Ambrosia" sweet corn in gardens can be a rewarding venture, but if your planting depth is incorrect, it can quickly turn into a disappointing venture.
By bella! at 28,May,20 22:14 other posts of bella! 
When I hear ambrosia, I immediately think of some kind of marshmallows dessert that was made with mini marshmallows, canned mandarin oranges, maraschino cherries, I believe coconut and my guess was that the binding matter was possibly Cool Whip.

Sadly, I have "food rules" and that particular dish broke the rules.

By ANGEL1227 at 28,May,20 11:52 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Rogerdhat in another thread to Bella.

Btw your rack is fucking nice make me wanna squeeze them

Bella, do you let them get squeezed?

By bella! at 28,May,20 08:48 other posts of bella! 
Yesterday, a member by the nickname of qwerta was banned for spamming and solicitation. According to admin's "detecto" device, she's already returned as margosha .

Heads up, if you desire to gift her or are inclined to comment and vote on her only picture, please do so before she goes POOF!

I give the member credit for posting such an eye catching picture. So many to choose from the internet and she chose a juicy one
By admin at 28,May,20 10:13 other posts of admin 
It's a spammer promoting other site. They get paid for it, so indeed they know how to pick pics to attract attention.
By bella! at 28,May,20 10:36 other posts of bella! 
Only one SYD/SYC, Showitoff member had an opportunity to gift her at the time of my post however two members had blacklisted her.

The one posted picture was good but in my opinion, good pictures often seem to scream "fake" at me.
By aoneeyedmonster at 28,May,20 10:56 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
agree.. a single hot pic is often reason for suspicion

By JustWill at 27,May,20 16:59 other posts of JustWill 
Here is a random thought:
I like peanut butter.
A lot.
That is all.
By kebmo at 27,May,20 17:06 other posts of kebmo 
JustWill, if you also like Cheez Whiz, they make a GREAT sandwich together!
I eat peanut butter all the time. I like it with Ritz Crackers, with a cream sauce and cashews on chicken, in cookies, by the spoonful, and of course in sandwiches.
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I have mentioned it here before, but my all time favorite is a peanut butter and dill pickle sandwich. Seriously! Very tasty.

By bella! at 27,May,20 17:24 other posts of bella! 
Gee, thanks for that update and regarding kebmo's post, keep in mind that kebmo is from Canada. Cheez Whiz and peanut butter? Although I never had it, it does not sound appealing.

Makes me think about