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Your opinions are really completely fact free, aren't they?
When a policeman shoots a black man,his name is plastered all over the media.BUT so far,I have yet to see or hear the name of the cop that shot a unarmed WHITE woman in the name of protecting a bunch of crooked politicains.
Could it be that since she was white,there was nothing to gain by disclosing his name?
So, in the US at least, white lives matter more.
Conservitives for the most part,support the police and law and order ,of course there were bad apples that some have said were Antifa and BLM wearing trump atire to make things worse and to discredit Trump supporters.
Just because I question your veiw on this does not mean I think they should have went in guns a blazen.They went to far when they damaged things and hurt people.To walk in front of that place making enough noise to wake up the dead,yea,go for it.OUR rights to free speech and assembly,which are both being violated in the name of security now.People should STILL be protesting in front of that place.But they can't because our freedom of assembly is being violated.
But Killing that woman that was empty handed,just standing there,I can't get past that being a situation of undue agression on the part of the cops.
Our rights have been under seige for a year now roughly. Don't go out,wear a mask,stay 6 apart,don't speak out against the rigged election results,etc.People being shut off from their President on social media,the modern equivelant of being able to go to the park and listen to a speach or to turn on the radio .
People don't seem to realize,just how much more tragic that situation could have really been had those folks REALLY wanted to be VIOLENT. I saw windows being broken,some wacks with sticks and etc,but the "militas" were not fireing automatic weapons and killing dozens of people. 99.999999 % of the people that went in there did not want to harm a soul.They wanted their voices heard.
However, if you violate the law in such a way, if you storm the parliament (capitol) in the US, then you're ready to die because the police or the army might shoot you, not just in the US, but in any country. So, surely, that white woman, and all people who stormed the Capitol were risking their lives.
That's the first point. The second point is that when I'm saying "white lives matter" more in the US I mean that whites are treated differently than blacks. And that's understandable. Until relatively recently, blacks were segregated. The 60s isn't ancient history. Hatred doesn't get erased because of laws but because people truly believe in human life and its preservation. During last week's insurrection, the national guard or other forces were restrained from using guns. only registered users can see external links And that's good. I don't want people to be killed. However, if the mob consisted of, say, 50% blacks then chances are that the protesters would have been shot even before entering the Capitol. That's what we hear all the time. The rioters knew that. They knew they were risking their lives but they knew that since they were white the risk was much smaller than if they had a different color skin.
You're right, I may be wrong. But everything I read, and everything I've seen in the US points towards that direction. Again, I don't think that past divisions between whites and blacks have been forgotten. Of course there are laws, and there should be, but I see that the solution should be a mutual understanding. I don't know how this is achieved.
By the way, this doesn't mean that I hate people who may have a different view than mine.
But perhaps it's best not to speak too much about politics here. My bad.
I can't remember which 1 of those big mouthed crawly things hangs out down there.
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Sherry Ann, you are the most gullible, simple minded member I’ve met
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THe way I look at it,if his kids are so important,which they very should be important to him,then perhaps a carreer choice of something safer would be in order?
I don't know what the capitol police pay rate is but I am sure being it is federal government,they are probably making alot more money than a small town USA cop is making.
BUT it is not enough to justify being beaten half to death either.It is also not enough to justify your name all over the media for shooting a sumbitch commiting a crime and trying to harm you or someone else.
(of any color, including children) being shot by the police?
By the way, the police also shoots many dogs. Dog lives matter!
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There should be MORE police and they should be able to work to protect the people and do it safely.This is not to say they should not be held accountable for stupid shit.BUT they have to be able to deter crime,stop crime and protect lives. Instead of shooting at cops, listen to them,you might live.
They are not protecting lives. When are they there when you need them?
If you call them, someone gets killed. It's not supposed to be like that.
The problem is; they aren't held accountable. To fix that, you need to change policy.
IF I am threatened,and I call the police,apparently in most cases MY LIFE or the life of someone I care about is being threatened and could be killed.
Are you saying the crooks lives matter MORE? I know you aren't but your statement kinda leans that way a bit.
The crook has already decided for him or her self for us that their life does not matter or they would not be threatening the life or lives of others.
When a mother called 911, because her 13 year old son, who has autism, has run away and she specifically asks for an intervention team, they still sent the cops and the boy ends up in hospital with almost a dozen bullets in his body.
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But it would help if they train the police to know; being black is not suspicious:
A sheriff's deputy killed an unarmed black man entering his own home.
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It's not just the killing that is a problem. The police paraded an innocent woman naked through her street, when they arrested her. They were looking for a 23 year old guy with a gun and raided the wrong house. They had no reason to arrest her in the first place, but how dangerous can one woman be? They couldn't risk her putting on some clothes?
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When the police does things like that, they are allowed to obstruct investigation, without repercussions. There should be checks and balances to protect the public. Would you really like to live in a police state? Is that freedom?
So, for a 13 year old autistic boy, a man on a ledge, an angry dog, a neighbor who collects his trash inside and attracts rats, neglected horses, a crazy naked guy, etc., they can send some professionals trained for jobs other than overpowering suspects and using lethal force. That will save lives and might even save money. Most healthcare workers are cheaper than cops.
"If the only tool you have is a hammer, you will treat all your problems like a nail.”
You send out the cops,they decide what needs to be done.
Counslers would at least need to be armed
You are completely unreasonable, nothing will be done, so that will make the protests justifiable. If this escalates to whatever violence thinkable, don't look for sympathy from me. If you need to suppress that violence with counter violence and many people die, it's all because of your type. History will show how you've treated black people like shit again. Yet another shameful chapter in the history of the evil empire.
Another thing,fix the pay scale so the job pays enough to get and keep good people on the job.
Another thing, get rid of this idea of hiring cops with low to average IQ's and hire those that are smart enough to make quick adaptations to their conditions.if you don't know what I am refering to,look up on google about 1999 case of a man in new jersey turned down for a cop because his IQ was TO HIGH>
Another change that would help is not to the cops,but to the people that are not yet criminals. Teach them respect for law and order,and teach them value of life.
Then over the course of a few years,your police brutality problem would dwindle.
1 more detail,as long as BLM burns down bussiness's and cars and harrassing people,Far as I am concered,to hell with them and whatever it is they are whining about.
Still, you might have a point that they don't like smart people as cops. They might start investigating the most harmful criminals, the people in power.
However there is 'some indication' that poverty and hopelessness are linked
with crime. But I'm sure you don't want to do anything about that, even if the benefits would out-way the costs and it's just the moral thing to do.
I don't know if you are a Christian, but this atheist advises you to listen to Christ more. He was quite adamant about helping the poor.
I can't quote it 100% but I do remember 1 preacher explaining that if people didn't work,they didn't eat.
It's a quote by Paul the Apostle and there are so many more about helping the poor and the rich not going to heaven.
Always the same answers from you; poor people don't work hard enough. There a poor people working three jobs. People with disabilities, who can't work, are not taken care off.
I don't think Jesus would agree about how society is organized now. I think he would be a socialist if he lived in this time or when he comes back.
(of course I don't believe the coming back part, but the socialism is definitely in line with his character)
Did they have a home and a family and lost it in a hurricane?
Did they have a home and family and decide to smoke dope and drink whiskey and abuse the family members until the family fell apart and left them where the doper,drinker belongs,in the gutter?
Are they 3rd generation welfare folks that were never TAUGHT the value of work?
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You all can't even keep up with your own stupidity...
However 10.1% of white people are poor and 20.8% of black people. Native Americans are doing even worse; 25.4%.
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I made the statement "Dog lives matter!" on purpose, to see who would be triggered by it. Interesting to see it was not the same people who were very triggered by the statement "Black lives matter".
ALL LIVES MATTER.
would you step in front of a black person and take their bullet because your life is worth less to them than yourself?
Oh, wow. You've managed to turn the victim into the bad guy. What's next? The little old lady who gets her purse stolen is guilty because she was carrying a purse? Perhaps you think the perpetrators of 911 were unlucky those big buildings were in their flight path?
As far as the second part of your question is concerned, yes, I would risk my life trying to save a person from attack. But, no, only an idiot would stand in front of a bullet, willy nilly. The kind of idiot that would ask such a question.
That is why people carry guns,to protect others from attack,so they don't have to put themselves in the path of a bullet,they can operate remotely with a point and clic interface system.
.Raped women are not all asking for it,but provacativeness does tend to draw the scourge out of the wood works.
Some,not all blacks tend to act violent,listen to violent music and so on,and prompt others to feel threatened and to feel like perhaps they don't care about life.It is the BLACKS that tend to devalue their own lives by their own actions.
They could stop the intimidation tactics too, I walk by a group of blacks and they immediately start talking about me and try to act all innocent...I am sure there are cameras around filming the incident...
Know your allies and your foes.
I pointed out how many dogs are killed by the cops, because that happens mostly when they just need to enter someones backyard and there is a dog there. I've seen a video of a cop shooting a dog that was wagging its tail. Your cops are trained to kill, before taking any risk (to themselves) whatsoever.
Why do I point it out with the dogs? Because a policeman should consider all dogs innocent. There are no criminal dogs. Even if the owner is a criminal, is their dog complicit?
Few members were serious or concerned. Most ran the gamut from "It's a terrorist organization" to "they get treated better than whites"
Some, like phart, thought we were talking about Martians and how they would take over the 2024 elections.
Contrary to local belief, I'm not a rabbid radical or civil rights nut. I just see how different people get treated differently and I don't like it. Colored or financially challanged people should get treated like anyone else . So, I bristle at the attitude of many of our members.
A big part of the problem is that the cops are excessively violent and they are almost never held accountable. Fixing that will solve most of the problem for black people as well. For the rest of the problem you need to solve the systemic racism.
The discussion here is whether Black lives matter or ALL LIVES MATTER. My point was; that cops are trained with the attitude that NO LIVES MATTER, but their own.
The US has made it the purpose of the police to serve as a deterrent, to keep people in line and no person or animal should stand in their way, or they will be killed. In my opinion that is not freedom and shows little respect for life.
That's such a profound statement
Good job buddy!
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Is there any resturants that won't serve Blacks left in the US?
Are there any jobs that blacks are simply not allowed to hold?
It seems when people start talking about black lives,poverty always seems to come into the conversation.
Ok,fine.But since when did poverty prevent a school age kid from actually walking to the bus stop each morning and going to a public,no cost to the parents other than taxes,school?
How exactly does poverty prevent a kid from sitting by a window or under a shade tree and reading his school book?
Or in modern times,using the computer provided by the school?
Since when did poverty in modern times force a kid to quit school before graduation? There are no farm crops to pick like 1955 and before,machines do that now.
My dad worked out of town and was gone 4 days of the week,that left only my mother there at home.Rather abusive I might add.But that did not prevent me from studying. That actually motivated me to study.I was the first person in my family to attend any college and it was without grants or loans.My cousin was the second person to go to college.
Poverty to me,just seems to me to be a scape goat for alot of societys ill's.
Nearly 100,000 establishments that temporarily shut down due to the pandemic are now out of business
Do you call all those people LAZY? Many, now, are at or below the poverty level.
Dgraff There's a lot of people like you. People that somehow managed to have some success in life and think anyone can do the same. Because those other people can't achieve your success, they are looked down upon.
I bet you get a special kind of pleasure saying,"You went to college and work in a menial job. I only have a tenth grade educationn. Who needs college?
So, see what I'm saying? The individual has opportunities but other influences keep him from taking advantage of them.
I'm going to assume your last remark was made in jest. If not, then you know little about women and are not a caring person.
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PS: did you ever tell your Mom how you felt?
My mother,8th grade education,couldn't do much of nothing but pick up something to beat the hell out of me with for every little infraction.
As for the single moms,some never married,that is a issue.
No baby daddy except for uncle Lyndon Johnson's check every month.
Oh yeah Curvy8!?
Prove it!
Prove that black folks get treated SO differently, SO much on a wide scale, that the whole system needs to be changed...
You people are all talk! When facts are shown to you on the contrary, you invoke the willful blind ignorance.
SO! "Nah, it is NOT a legitimate concern".
Maybe more focus should be placed on abiding by the law or if you break it and get caught, to comply with the officers instructions.
What a fucking novel idea, right?
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When we lived in Valdosta, Georgia there were plenty of times I saw how cops treat AfricanAmericans and other minorities different
One of my husbands, Gerome, is AfricanAmerican. We would go out to the store or drive somewhere. If we passed a cop, it was even chance he would get stopped. It didn’t matter he was driving legal. The cop would ask for license and registration. Gerome would give it to him. The cop would take one look and he would ask Gerome to get out of the car. Gerome complied. By that time I’d be getting off and asking the cop what was wrong. Almost every very time they would order me back in the car and told to shut up. Gerome was always asked to lean on the car and the cop would search him. Remember, he had done nothing wrong..........except be black. We always had to wait until at least one other cop car would arrive. The cops would start chatting while we waited. Finally the cop would walk back and return the license and registration. He would say something like you are free to go (remember, Gerome had done nothing wrong) No explanation.
are nothing more than home grown terrorists organizations.
Why continue to sugar coat the TRUTH?
ALL LIVES MATTER
EXCEPT! When in the womb.
Their IDIOCY doesn't stop there...
If the Black man or woman has a badge, their lives no longer matter either.
Just think about how UTTERLY FUCKING STUPID that is.
She proudly displays her Q of ♠️'s tattoo and outwardly states that black men are superior to white men. She often foments a bunch of nonsensical bullshit that she has NO clue about in order to gain attention. She's the epitome of an ignoramus.
You've been warned and good luck! 😉
Cocky76 meet the village idiot... ⬆️⬆️⬆️ a.k.a. DumbFuck3
She proudly displays her Q of ♠️'s tattoo and outwardly states that black men are superior to white men. She often foments a bunch of nonsensical bullshit that she has NO clue about in order to gain attention. She's the epitome of an ignoramus.
You've been warned and good luck! 😉
cocky76
Dont let this forum commando bias your views. He loves to denigrate people but he never contributes to the discussion. He also hides behind blocking a member. I can't see what he writes unless I sign off. He's a chicken shit coward. I try to research my answers if I don't know enough. And NO, I don't believe AFRICAN-AMERICAN men are superior to whites, but, most are superior to this sleeze bag, Scorps
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The black people have had equal rights given to them by constitution and laws. Most make a choice to continue to play the victum-race card to get by with as little effort in life as possiable.
Now! How many fuckwits can you see?
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That’s what you call a white guilt group
A couple years from now it will be "save the whales" or "Conservitive brutalty" or something.
Prove it!
Prove that black folks get treated SO differently, SO much on a wide scale, that the whole system needs to be changed...
You people are all talk! When facts are shown to you on the contrary, you invoke the willful blind ignorance.
SO! "Nah, it is NOT a legitimate concern".
Maybe more focus should be placed on abiding by the law or if you break it and get caught, to comply with the officers instructions.
What a fucking novel idea, right?
That doesn't mean you or I wish any person harm. Just that the lives of an anonymous Chinese peasant, or Nigerian slum-dweller, or Arkansas redneck don't matter to me or you. And by the same token, my life doesn't matter to approximately 7.7 billion people (or to all but one no-human life form... my cat).
By this time next summer,we will be under strong quarntine orders,no church no dining outside the home and so on,all to condition us for socialism under the umbrella of the wuhan plandemic
socialism under the umbrella of the wuhan plandemic.
Where the fuck does your brain come up with shit like this? Having a conversation, one to one, must be a dilly.
Here's one for you, "wuhan plandemic". Does it mean lower case planing for a NEW pandemic?
If my computer history still has it,I will try to find and link to the artical I read here online about the conditioning of Americans to socialism by making us dependant on the government for a short time and then later perhaps again for a later time and that time may not end.
If you look at it without your blinders on, bussiness getting "forgiveable" loans, people getting 1200 dollar checks from the government.AFTER the government shuts everything down and puts people in hard times.
Making me feel a better person makes me happy and that leads to a better lifestyle. That won't assure me a healthy life but it surely will help. But, most of all, I believe my Creator put me on this earth to help anyone that needs help and I'm able to give it. NO, don't get me wrong. Organized religions are ok, but, not for me.
Allthough he had a rap sheet "he was the sweetest"
Sheesh people.
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AT least about from 12.20 or so onward.
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Let him explain somethings.
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All dogs matter to me
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All Antifa is doing is giving the blacks a bad reputation
Some lives matter to each individual... family, friends... but we are all just insignificant flakes of dust in the universe.
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A site cockroach and known crybaby.
Op-ed: I helped put Brandon Bernard on federal death row. I now think he should live.
Mr Bernard is scheduled to be executed on December 10. I say execute him. He didn't kill anyone but
BLACK LIVES DON'T MATTER AND IT WOULD MEAN ONE LESS INMATE TO FEED.
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Family Guy on Black on Black crime !!
That was good!
They matter, Sour but ☯﹏☯༽
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And they individually wrapped.. Imagine that
Try some of this 😅
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Given it took him 2 days to respond, not sure if it works or it took him that long to type an emoji on his pentium 2 comp. Try and see.
So the man got a Champaign cork and stuck it in the gay guy’s ass. He said to come back in four weeks. When the gay guy came back the man told him to strip and bend over. The man quickly popped the cork. Shit shot up everywhere. It covered the Capuchino monkey. The gay guy takes one look at the Capuchino and remarks, “ You are ugly as shit;......but you are mine.
So,Dgraff do you still identify as a Capuchino monkey or a redneck?
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BIDEN 2024
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It didn’t even warrant a comment back
It's like you are looking for something and you're not going to be happy until you see it.
Baltimore, Philly, Detroit, and New Orleans. How odd!
Sorry my friend, I was just "keeping it real", liberal style!
Sounds like you had a nice day overall.
As far as them courts are concerned, we shall see in time. I 🤞
In the meantime this pessimist is going to keep the faith.
Oh! And it's pretty fun to watch the flakes have their meltdowns.
What did Mckinley do to offend these folks enough to drive at a high enough speed that when they hit the monument the engine went flying out of the van?
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Gota part with some of those donations to pay fines! That will teach you not to go town making noise.
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I guess now the Blm'ers will burn down buildings and be hollaring defund the Democrats?
B)URN L)OOT M)URDER
I hope moving forward we try to look at both sides, even if we feel strongly one way, just to make sure we are not only viewing information that supports our existing beliefs.
April 12, 1861 – May 13, 1865
2,128,948 men enlisted in the Union Army
110,100 Union soldiers died in battle: 67,088 KIA, 43,012 MW. 224,580 died of disease. 2,226 were wounded. 1 Army commander, 3 corps commanders, 14 division commanders, and 67 brigade commanders, including 32 generals, were killed in the Union Army
Now,these people fought and alot died, modern redentions of our history say it was to reunite the United states and because of slavery.So why is it,that the BLM doesn't seem to care about whites and other nationalitys? Whites fought and died to free their ancestors.
But there are some people who use ALM as a rejection of BLM. Some don't innocently proclaim we all matter, but intend it as a rebuke. That is a basic reasoning as to why the offense
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@phart ok my insult did stoop low, but I think that on this issue you might change your mind if you are exposed to different perspectives and versions of history
Therefore your opinion counts.
BLM started as a hashtag to point out black people being killed by police. Whether it was racism or not I wont argue here. I do believe that many black people felt like it was racism, and they have some reasons in recent history to believe that
Racism is not only a white thing.
Black preputate it MUCH more so than whites.We just want to get on with our lives be left the fuck alone.
Do your homework about BLM. Because if you understand what they stand for, your opinion may change. And if you have any friends or family in law enforcement, ask them the real meaning behind BLM and Fuck 12.
Btw Racism in America is only a white thing, it is a phenomenon of the race in power oppressing another race. There is a pretty long and ugly history behind US Race Relations. While maybe it seems long in the past.. its still pretty fresh for many.
But they are not.
Therefore they are racist.
Your life looks terrible. It's not black peoples fault.
As most people completely agree that black lives matter just as much as anyone else's life matters.
Do YOU remind B.L.M. supporters of that? I mean, if so, should they be chanting death to the Police and targeting white businesses? OR How about rallying together when a black person dies by the hands of another black person?
Do those lives matter too? Just askin...
How can you say black lives matter just as much as anyone else's life, when they have so many more obstacles to overcome than anyone else, to have a worthwhile life.
Just being allowed to live does not mean your life matters.
It is basically Spy vs Spy
Are they just bad people?
Or could you find some empathy in your hart and acknowledge that there might be other problems?
That's MIGHTY WHITE of you to feel such concern for them poor black folks. As if black people are the ONLY race that's suffers from poverty and many of the things you stated.
Afterall, they MUST be incapable of improving their lives without superior whitey's help. How generous of you to look down your nose from an empowered position like your some sort of god. Whites are the ONLY ones capable of helping them poor ignorant souls. Is that YOUR position?
Do you feel threatened by blacks that somehow managed to escape their poorness or do you believe that those that escaped only succeeded because some white person gave them the tools they needed?
Can you be any MORE CONDESCENDING towards black people?
According to you, I MUST be black too. Single parent home, secondhand clothes most of my youth, shitty neighborhood, drug addict mother, been stopped for being white, I've been denied not 1 but 2 jobs because of my whiteness. How could these things happen to a more superior race, according to you?
Considering the percentage of the black population in the United States, 13.4%, what percentage of THAT number would you say meets YOUR criteria of poorness? Unno, the kind with flies on their face, bloated empty stomachs from malnourishment, no shoes on their feet, etc. What would you say? 90%? Higher or lower?
Are you suggesting the OTHER 86.6% of the United States population has ZERO poor or obstacles to overcome? Are you dumb enough to believe that the poor black population outnumber every other poor population?
I suppose that's how you justify the fact that black people commit 52% of all the crime in the United States. Because of evil whitey, right? Because they don't have the reasoning skills to be law abiding citizens without whitey's help. They're (black people) just simply not bright enough to strive for success without your goodness and generosity.
Like I said... HOW MIGHTY WHITE OF YOU!
Why would I feel threatened by blacks that manage to escape their poorness? I want that to be as easy as possible, for everyone. The problem is that your ideas make that harder for everyone. It is why the US is 27th in the world for social mobility, behind Lithuania. It sure is the 'American dream' and not the 'American reality'. The few exceptions just prove my point.
My criteria for poorness? There are standards for that. Your country is doing awful according those standards.
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Actually natives are the poorest. 24.2% of them fall beneath the poverty line. Blacks are at 21.2%, Hispanics at 17.2% and Whites are at 9.0%. Now why is that? White superiority? The fact that you are doing alright disproves that you need to be superior, but being white definitely helps. A black man with your intelligence would surely end up poor or in prison.
When you take a shot at statistics, it might be a good idea to quote the source. It's not in line with FBI statistics.
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Trying to shame people for being white only works on Americans (with good reason).
Actually I would extend that to cover all races of people.Considering 1 example I know of personally,just recently met a fellow,about 38 or so. Claimed to be recovering from herion addiction.Was going to get help each week,people gave him work, gave him scrap metal to sell so he could buy food and clothes,I bought a couple old lawnmowers from him to refurbish and resale myself.
Just over the weekend,he steals a bunch of equipment from the guy he worked for and sold it and got high.
He chose to do that,instead of choosing going to his counceler.
White as snow,not black.
People of all races choose the victum lifestyle.
Your country can choose to say 'fuck them, it is their own choice to fail', but that will SOLVE NOTHING! The result is that those people remain a burden on your society.
You can choose to throw them all in jail, but then they just cost a lot of money.
You can choose to have them do forced labor and then they are competing with the jobs of low educated civilians. You can choose to kill or enslave them and then the rest of the world will turn their back to you. If you think the USA will survive by itself than you don't understand global capitalism.
The USA can better solve their problems or you will loose in the global competition from countries that do solve those problems.
I know 1 fellow,has been to rehab facilitys over 40 times in his 54 years of life. Prison 3 times.
The state even offered the man a job manageing prisoners on a work crew that does renovation work.Full time with benifits. He refused and when released,was back in prison 4 months later.Stealing to pay for drugs.
I can agree to help someone that wants help,and will make good use of it,but after multiable times, it gets to be a waste.
Oh, you are so woke! Come live next to some US black in west Baltimore. You will be running for your libtard cunt Euro-trash live
Naive and ignorant.
This is not the situation for the majority of poor people, black or white.
Just providing adequate affordable education, child care, affordable housing
and a living wage, would be more than enough to let those people do well.
How can you know? Because it works in many countries.
REALLY? That's the best you got?
How about totally immersing yourself in THEIR WORLD, so to speak, since you seem to wanna "learn more".
Move to a ghetto near YOU, get some bi-racial family members, a black step-parent, CHOOSE to work in a couple environments where it's 300 black folks to 2 white ones, date some black people, for ohhhh I dunno... 15 to 35 years worth of REAL experience.
Then! Maybe then! You might have some sort of position to lay claim to. Until then! You're nothing more than another ignorant white motherfucker talking from what you perceive as a position of power over black folks. As if YOU'RE their keeper. Black people aren't fucking animals, they're not your gotdamned pets.
Ever hear of "white privilege"? YOU FULLY BELIEVE YOU POSSES THAT and only people like you can save them from theirselves. You speak from a condescending position of your privilege. DO YOU REALLY WANNA KNOW THE TRUTH? DO YOU REALLY CARE? Move out your cushy white fucking neighborhood and go live in one of the areas they do. Minimum 10 years! Can or are you willing to do that? I don't mean any pussyfied ratio either! I mean move into an area of 95% or greater black population to 5% other.
"Befriend some black people"
You don't know shit from shinola like most of the rest of the white people around here that believe they are so superior and high white and mighty.
Didn't your Mammie teach you not to speak if you don't have something intelligent to say?
Your opinion doesnt count
Your opinion counts
Blacks are self oppressors,adopting a victum mentality by choice most of the time.
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But George Floyd was just a late term abortion.No real crime commited. Sadly,that is way it looks to me that liberals think.
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How about putting the Republican party on the terrorist watch list.
They have killed 226.000 people.
As far as evidence of the democrats being terrorist,do you honestly think the rioters and looters are voting Republican? Come on man? to quote your hero Biden.You gota be smarter than that.
Some of Biden's supporters are the 1's commiting the arson and looting. Terrorism.
Now show me how a chinese made virus that was spread all over the ENTIRE EARTH is Trumps fault?
They just came on the tv news this evening,a local town has had 9 cops come down with the wuhan over the past few months.
They all have been wearing mask,sanitizing their hands,cars and etc,everything they could possiably do,and they STILL GOT THE DAMN virus.
TRUMP Even got it,and he is the most secure man in the USA.
Most of these protesters/rioters/looters haven't been voting at all, because neither party have been doing anything for them, for decades. They are fed up with your system. So, these protests are on you and your politics.
Trump is responsible for first denying the existence of the virus, then denying the danger of the virus, then taking insufficient action to prevent outbreak of the virus (when it was still possible) and after that not taking appropriate action to reduce the spread of the virus.
My government is also doing poorly against the virus, but at least they were serious and mostly honest about it. Trump has been neither. That is why he is to blame for the horrible death rate in your country.
Trump is not the most secure man in the USA, because he allowed everyone around him to neglect Covid prevention measures. It is not spreading at the same level in the democrat organization, because they have been more sensible.
Biden is not my hero. He is still a corporatist to the bone. In my opinion, he is worse than Obama, just a little bit better than Hillary and a lot better then any republican.
Just look at ALL the attributable deaths, property destruction, theft, and fear caused because of them.
Working hand in hand with ANTIFA.
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BLM - just a general anti hatred movement.
therefore your opinion doesnt count
Be safe and sort of sane out there everyone please!
They should stop shooting each other, which is the main cause of black deaths. Black on black crime
Jews are persecuted more.. You don't see any yamakas smashing into cars and looting walmarts.
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Did his life matter?
If SO! Why hasn't anyone heard of this?
Mainstream media is NOWHERE to be found!
Could it be, because lil Rowan is just 4 years old?
Could it be, because he's a lil white boy?
Could it be, because the killer is a B.L.M. activist?
Could it be, because Kimonie Bryant is black?
Could it be the profound statement - "Eye for an Eye", he tweeted AFTER killing the lil boy, execution style?
Are any of you able to offer up a valid reason why practically NO ONE has heard about this?
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Similar to 5 year old Cannon Hinnant, do these children's lives matter? As a daily news junkie, I just don't understand why I hadn't heard about this. I just so happened to stumble upon it from an unconventional news source.
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This site says the perp and the family knew each other, because they were texting and there was cash involved.
Linking that with BLM protests is weak. Not every black murderer is a BLM protester, even if he had been protesting at some point.
You had 419 mass shootings in 2019. This looks like just one of them. Fortunately they caught the bastard who did it. He will probably get the death penalty.
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1 look at the guy and you can tell he is not a fellow that goes to work every day doing something productive.
Wouldn't surprise me at all if the guy hated "whiteys"
Why, because he is black and has dreadlocks?
Or do you expect him to smile, while he knows he will be put to death for what he did?
He doesn't have any tattoos or scars, he's just black and has dreads. I would even call this tidy dreads. When I saw his picture, I didn't think what you said, I thought he didn't look like a killer.
What is it about his appearance that makes you SEE what you said?
Or would you think the same about any picture of a black man?
Trust me,you can look at a picture of a white dude that beat a old man up for his car and a few bucks for drugs and see the "crackhead" look in them as well. Take off the coke bottle glasses and LOOK.
How many black men in bussiness suits do you see with dreads and a look in their face like that?Not many.The black men I have met that were bank presidents and college professors were well dressed and have a polite,kept look about them.
There are some black people that could teach whites how to clean up their act trust me.
Sure, a robber who shoots you or cuts you up, mostly looks like a thug.
However, all these people look very respectable:
- The CEO of the cluster-bomb factory, who bribes your politicians to continue supplying Saudi Arabia with cluster-bombs, so they can continue their genocide in Jemen and enrich the CEO and management of the cluster-bomb factory.
- The CEO of the tobacco company who bribes the FCTC to relax anti-smoking laws, so he can keep making profits of giving people cancer.
- Big Pharma CEOs paying your politicians so they don't push for lower drug prices.
- Chemical company CEOs paying your politicians to drop regulations, so they can keep polluting the rivers, that are also used for drinking water.
- Drinking water company CEOs paying your politicians, to lower standards for drinking water and hold inspections, to make the process cheaper, while people are drinking lead and mercury.
- Do I really need to give examples on how much despair bank CEOs have caused?
People you respect kill many times more than the people you hate and fear.
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It is obvious that we the People are the only 1's that can get the news out there.The media,they don't give a damn about facts or truth.They want rateings.
Killing a kid by putting 2 bullets in it's head,sounds more like something a member of the Taliban or Isis would do,not a American citizen.
No, I did not hear about Rowan Sweeney until I saw your post. Right now, white on black crime is what is making the news in order to stir outrage and unrest.
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Crayola makes a white crayon ,has since 1903.
People are dying from Covid19, lack of healthcare, war and violence. Do any of you have ideas to do something about those unnecessary deaths?
Or is your attitude that lives matter, but not enough TO DO SOMETHING?
Or is your attitude that lives matter, but other things are more important?
But what your saying is that you care about all lives, but you or the state shouldn't do anything to help people, they should all help themselves.
Then it doesn't make any difference whether lives matter to you or not.
that's the reason for my head shake.
It's not a baby as soon as there is a heart beat. That's a 7 weeks. There is a lot of time between that and once it is dry and fed. I've asked you before what is your time limit on abortion, but you've never answered.
In any case, you can use your abortion argument on any unnecessary deaths.
You can just point to abortion when anyone asks for caring about people
(dying from anything) you don't care about.
How about I say, that I will only start caring about abortion, until you have solved all murder and unnecessary deaths of people that actually have been born.
I think it's more important to care about human beings who have the mental capacity to fear death or at least the nervous system to feel pain.
The way some folks think,taking a life at age 40 could be considered a abortion.As for a limit in my opionion,no abortion at any time unless it is the result of r@pe,1ncest,or the pregnancy is a direct danger to the mother.Then it should be a last choice.
As for actually doing something to save lives,there is some things we can all do personally to save lives.
1, if we don't want a baby to have to kill later,use prevention.
2,if we don't want to die in a riot,stay away from the riot.
3,if we don't want to die of Aids ,use prevention and don't share needles.
4. if we want healthcare, go to work and earn the priviledge,it is not a right,I don't know where the concept came from that health care is a right.
5,if we don't want cancer,don't smoke and grind asbestoes.There is many causes of cancer,and Some can be avoided.
6.if we don't want to die as a result of police violence,don't break the law or if you do,respect the officers. There is abuse on thier end and they should be held accountable of course.
7.if we don't deaths due to war,get our fucking noses out of Iran,iraq,afganistan,packistan,syria and etc and let them folks deal with their own self made sess pools.
I will think of some more later
Still, I do want to thank you for your clear answers. Even if I don't agree, I think politics should still listen to your opinions, if you make them clear like you did. That is democracy. However, if there is a majority with a conflicting opinion and it is in line with reality, the government should listen to the majority. About 61% of US adults say that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.
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There are only a few people that would allow abortion after 24 weeks. This is the minimum age for a fetus to be viable outside the womb, with a lot of care and likely health problems for the child the rest of its life. So one could call a fetus of 24 weeks a baby. I don't have a specific limit of weeks in mind, because my limit is "can the fetus feel pain?". I let that question up to science. However, if the fetus of a certain age could feel pain, but there is no other brain function, I would agree with abortion, up to 24 weeks, under anesthesia of the fetus.
My principle is, a fetus is not a human being yet, until it can survive without the mother. Before that, it is only the opportunity for a human being and it is up to the mother if she agrees with that opportunity. I don't think every undesired conception should lead to a new human being. There are enough humans already. Let's help the humans that actually started life to make the best of it.
1. Sure, use prevention, I agree. But, I think it needs to be at least affordable. Poor people also deserve sex.
2. Not every protest is a riot. But if truth and justice are on the side of the protesters and the authorities do not listen, I think rioting is justified to achieve the goal. No rights have ever been acquired without a fight.
3. Sure, same as point 1. Still, society has the task to eliminate diseases like that.
4. It should be a right, because it is to the benefit of everyone. Being sick should not be punishment, because generally it is not by choice. What is humanity worth, if we don't take care of the sick?
5. I agree. However, there should be rules to prevent people risking cancer while doing their work and consumer products to be as safe as possible. People should still have the right to consume unsafe products, but they also should be regulated to minimize damage to society and minimize profit to companies that profit on damaging society.
6. Many people have been killed, who did not break the law or only committed minor offenses. Being disrespectful should not be punishable by death. Why should cops be allowed to kill people that offend them? If a cop acts like an asshole, you should be able to threat them as such, without fear of getting killed.
We should have higher demands of law enforcement than just to be held accountable when they kill people.
7. I agree, but rich and powerful countries also have some responsibility to prevent people from being abused.
Do you really think everything is OK? Do you really think that when people's lives suck it's all their own fault?
Look at your history. Nothing positive has ever been achieved without people taking action for it.
You might not agree with BLM, but I assure you that they will not stop until your government takes action to reduce police violence. If you were just a bit neutral in your thoughts, you should also demand some changes from your government, instead of putting all your demands on the people that are asking for change.
But when a group of thugs claiming to be protesting for BLM burns down bussiness's and steals from people,that is not protesting.The peaceful protesters are doing NOTHING to actually stop these riots,so perhaps they are not lighting the fire,but they are enabling others to.
As far as holding a cop accountable,I doubt anyone has a problem with that.But folks need to vote in people that will look at that and fix it. Not burn down the police station.
yes if your life sucks, you made it that way...black or white or any colour in between. if you choose the behaviour, you choose the consequence and if you rob people, hurt people, burn their lively hoods, when does that become ok to get your point across and when is it the governments fault to clean up this mess that 'society' created??? I really don't care about America, or their attitudes, its not my problem. but I married a 'black' man, and he had the biggest chip on his shoulder, wanted to get interest free loans and use the system to be 'black' to his own advantage, and I was totally against it... in my world, and my childrens world, you are either an Australian first foremost, or 'black' and disadvantaged if you want to wear that label like badge of honour, and I wasn't living in a 'black' house and 'black neighbourhood' for anyone, I wasn't going to raise my children with this attitude and around others with this horrible 'victim mentality', and I didn't teach my half cast son, that he was a black man, he was taught to be an Australian, and is an Australian, and now is an australian astrophysicist!!! not a half aboriginal victim with an attitude, I also quashed any of the aboriginal programs that the school tried to put him in, so they could receive extra funding. how equal is that??? giving black kids days off school so they don't get the education they should be, an education like the 'white' kids...... I dated another 'race' of black man after him, and he too carried his colour like a badge of negativity, he didn't ask questions, just punched people out of his way if he didn't like them... so my first hand experience with 'black' men, is that theyre TAUGHT this behaviour, theyre taught that the world hates them, that they have to fight dirty for everything, that theyre DISADVANTAGED for being the way they are... funny how my 'black' husband, got a normal job when he wanted to start a family, got a normal loan from a bank, bought a normal house and in nice neighbourhood and not a shack in a 'blacks' only part of town, and funnily enough, could live just like anyone else once he got over the 'black chip' on his shoulder.
phart said it right, the protesting isn't protesting, its just down right arson, rioting, law breaking bullshit, and I don't agree with it and I wouldn't give these people the time of day after seeing what they've done to entire cities and towns and other human beings. HOW DARE THEY!! , these riots started over a drug fucked, criminal.... A DRUG FUCKED, LAW BREAKING, THEIF, AND CRIMINAL... if they had of arrested a peaceful protestor, abiding the laws of the land, then no, this reaction would have also been unwarranted ... when you let people create whole suburbs, towns and communities based around lawlessness, you call them 'ghettos' and instead of addressing this as a problem, society waited till the 'ghettos' got out of control.. I bet not one policeman or law enforcement agency ever wants to go there.. because the inhabitants of these areas run them... gang law rules. and if the government, heaven help them, send in the military, as that's what it would take to clean them out, do gooders would all get their panties in a knot and call it uncalled for villance against disadvantaged people???... so you want these areas to continue teaching their children that this 'ghetto' lifestyle is all there is for them... you created it.. as a people, now you have to fix it, as a people, not one person is responsible for all this lawlessness, what's the reason that these random individuals have the right to protest like a pack of wild animals and that these pigs that are holding your towns and cities to ransom, need to be 'respected and treated better' ... yeah, comes back to 'lets give everyone a medal' for participating and tell all the children they can be 'anything they want' and if they want to nothing and useless, than that ok.. no need to work hard, get a job and work your way out of poverty... , lets pat these rioters on the back for bringing back peace to the streets and making the country a better place to live... lets burn down all those 'white peoples' businesses so we can whinge in a month that no one has a shop to buy bread from, and its all the governments fault that the streets are filled with chaos.
we humans, we're supposed to be the 'master race', well I beg to differ many days *lix*
Your country has tried the message "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" for decades. How is it working for you? I tell you, your country is slipping away further and further. You are acknowledging the problems, but you don't see the causes.
Ask yourself why poor people are getting poorer and rich people are getting richer.
You can keep blaming the poor and/or colored people or you can choose to make changes that help them and simultaneously help yourself.
people would rather argue about nothing than do anything... just like here. I'll just do what everyone does.. its not my problem, and until it becomes my problem, I don't need to do anything.. *lix*
This is not just crap I have been fed on television, because the media has been actively denying this. I can actually interpret data, understand science and just realize what happens in the world around me. I have eyes and a brain!
I am scientifically educated and have experience in data analytics and problem solving. It is my job to do a deep dive into a problem, find the root cause and contributing factors, then determining all solutions, determine the optimal solution and then achieve the optimum result. That's why I see what the cause are for the problems I present here. That's why I also see solutions.
Don't you agree there are problem?
Don't you agree is has been getting worse every decade?
If you see the problems, what do you think are the solutions?
Do you think asking people to be respectable human beings and raising respectable human beings will help?
You don't have to do anything. You don't have to care about the problems or
the causes or even understand them. You don't have to be engaged in politics,
you don't even have to vote. But if you give your uninformed opinion, you will get
push-back from someone who is informed.
It is a good place to start.
My idea is that when you treat people like animals, they become animals.
That would be a better place to start at.
my son is considered 'half black'. I consider him to be firstly, my son, secondly, a law abiding Australian, and thirdly, a good man... the word 'black', or colour, or race has nothing to do with him being a decent human being in my house...
Im not the sharpest tool in the shed, but I know what being treated like a second rate citizen feels like... how about you??? are you the parent of a half cast child??? have you ever had to fight a system set up to fail for your kid??? have you been pushed into a system that makes racism its heart, and teaches your kids to be racist from the time they start school???? Ive fought his battle for his entire life... so don't preach to me about answers to racism that you havent dealt with first hand... I know what Im talking about... I didn't read it from a book, I experienced it and still am ... *Lix*
But the biggest joke about BLM is they do NOT care when it is black on black crime. Just look at any given day in Chicago. Any BLM outrage here?
Muppets.
And tecsan, of course all lives matter.
The use of an apostrophe confused me, that punctuation mark denotes possession. Example, tecsan or tecsan's. In your sentence you used wrote babie's so it seemed logical to believe you were referring to a babie.....whatever a babie is.
"generally speaking, the consensus focuses on less police, more community control, more investment".
Less police, ??? I think more police are needed, specifically more black police, and make black police, police black areas.. stops all this white against black stuff. let the black police sort out the black problems, with black orientated fixes.
more community control.??? no, community is how they got this divide in the first place. blacks telling blacks that everything is unjust ... get rid of community telling them and teach them properly, if need be, ship impoverished black kids to white schools and make them intergrate and sit next to each other for 10 years of schooling, not blacks on one side and whites on the other. segregation caused this, make them equal quantities in all schools and make them, as children, not see colour.. give them all the same educations... not poor kids get less education than rich white kids... if its a public school, mix it up. you cant reteach older people, with ground in beliefs, but you can guide a new generation into new thinking..
and investment... well I believe this is the biggest problem, throwing money at it, doesn't fix it. as the wrong people see a money trail and the problem stays so the funding can be collected and problems never change. checking that the money already spent is spent on the things it supposed to might help, instead of ending up in the pockets of 'advisers', or committees that only look after their end of town, and not the end its meant for... Ive seen so much corruption in all these programs and governments cant keep throwing money at something that no one wants to fix... *Lix*
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Still, it would have been smarter if they called themselves 'Black Lives Matter Too'.
Or maybe the founders considered that and decided that the name 'Black Lives Matter' would get more attention without the 'Too'.
I won't derail your thread with a "fight" but it's difficult not to be confrontational when, if you're on one side of the argument, you are smeared with stuff like:
"they believe that that life in the womb is an inanimate object or a parasite of sorts, and MUST be terminated" OR
"the white one should be locked up, thrown in an underground dungeon, food deprived, and gassed. Later, throw the black criminal a ticker tape parade, herald them as a hero, and throw a shit ton of money at them."
It's possible to have sympathy for the causes of BLM without being pro-abortion or pro-punishment for white criminals. It's also possible to be in favour of the broad aims of BLM, and to criticise some of their more extreme actions.
If, however, you want your world to be painted in simple shades of black and white (no pun intended) I would refer you to Scorps' response. No attempt to find any middle ground whatsoever, and anyone who has any common cause with BLM is a baby-hating, "Lib-tard". Recent posts have been a little sensitive of criticism of the US, but I would contend that extreme views (on EITHER side of the argument) are counter-productive for resolution of the problems you have Stateside.
It is a clearly racist statement. Although you can google yourself to death and read all kinds of bullshit claiming it's Not racist.Yea right.
Want some beach front property? I have some in Utah, cheap.
Ever heard of empiricism?
If evidence I present to you is brushed off that easily, you semi-literate chimp, why should I bother?
You've, basically, admitted that any inconvenient facts don't dent your fucked-up beliefs. Read a fucking book. Read something from someone you might disagree with. Then form an opinion. smh
No loss.
That was what bothered me about him.
Sure I took a look at some of his links,some of them made me about puke.
It takes ALOT to change a middle age or older person's mind about certain topics.
And as I recall, your bio puts you into that "certain age" group.
I aint perfect,don't and won't claim to be.
All is well on my end,thanks for jurking the leash back and reminding me to be more civil.
You're a good guy, don't lose sight of that.
On the BLM question. There's so much crap being said one way or the other, I fell it should have read ALMBBOMM. ............................................................ALL LIVES MATTER BUT BLACK ONES MATTER MORE.
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My opinion
After hearing the dollar amount of destruction attributable
and caused by the group, the number of accountable deaths because of the group, their consistent message of racism, "trained marxists leaders", and so much more in opposition of American values.
B.L.M. SHOULD BE DEEMED a TERRORIST ORGANIZATION like they are.
Seize all the money contributed to them by the likes of Nike, Pepsi, Papa Johns, T-Mobile, Bank of America, just to name a few, and return some compensation to the numerous victims of that trash organization.
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In a Facebook post labeling Black Lives Matter as a Marxist movement, PragerU included a video interview with Carol Swain, a Black conservative and former professor at Vanderbilt and Princeton universities. She said, "Now, the founders of Black Lives Matter, they’ve come out as Marxists."
Swain alluded to Black Lives Matter’s three co-founders, who are still featured prominently on the group’s website — Patrisse Cullors, Alicia Garza and Opal Tometi. Their primary backgrounds are as community organizers, artists and writers. Swain, though, was referring to a newly surfaced interview Cullors did in 2015, where she said:
"We do have an ideological frame. Myself and Alicia, in particular, are trained organizers; we are trained Marxists. We are superversed on, sort of, ideological theories. And I think what we really try to do is build a movement that could be utilized by many, many Black folks."
Some white supremist.
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All lives matter... Even my sisters Texican
if you are born white or albino in a coloured herd of animals, you are singled out as different. usually killed for that reason to protect the herd. In our society, its not like theres one black person, or one person in a tribe of the opposite colour... its who you associate or identify as being.. here we have white people claiming to be black to receive or access better job opportunities, or more welfare, or more educational resources or grants, when they are more white than black, this is the area of 'grey', which seems to be the bit no one can agree on, how black do you have to be, to be black??? I asked a dude one day who was preaching about being black and wasn't really what I would consider as being black, and I asked him what was his disadvantage of being black, to anyone else who was whiter?? and he said he'd get back to me... I'm still waiting for the answer. you could have 2 men, of medium colour, one claiming to be black, and one claiming to be white, neither are either, theyre mixed colour, but I could guarantee you, I could pick which identifies as which... contestant A would go out in life, get a job, meet a woman, have some kids and teach them the world is here for everyone to live in and enjoy... while contestant B would be blaming the world for hating them and treating them differently... not because of their education, their beliefs, their background, their socio-economic circumstances, but would be blaming their colour as their reason for the world hating them...
this is the time we need a hero of many heros to step up to the plate, not a criminal, we need some great men to show people their is a good way to do things and a shitty way to do things.... a better way than tearing up the streets and acting like contestant B ... *Lix*
Unless your a Lib-tard. Then they believe that that life in the womb is an inanimate object or a parasite of sorts, and MUST be terminated! Despicable!
They ALSO believe in degrees of matter.
For example, a black criminal vs a white criminal.
The black one should be set free and not held accountable because they know no better. Those poor souls have been battling an unjust system their whole lives. Have some empathy man! Meanwhile, the white one should be locked up, thrown in an underground dungeon, food deprived, and gassed. Later, throw the black criminal a ticker tape parade, herald them as a hero, and throw a shit ton of money at them.
See! It's all about degrees of matter.
If a black person kills another black person it's oh well! Unless of course the black person doing the killing is a cop, then OMG! Let's start Burning Looting Murdering and you best not say a gotdamned thing about it you racist!
Consider it reparations...
Although I say ALL matter, you MUST take into account the degrees of who's matter and to what extent. Equal justice for all is just a cute little saying with no real meaning. The Libs/Dems know that ALL too well, don't they!
Laws/rules for thee but not for me is their motto.
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