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If not, your comment makes no sense.
And then you are referring to polls. What polls?
It's your brain malfunctioning. Whatever people dislike about Biden,
it's not that he's Putin's bitch. That's on Trump!
Biden is supporting Ukraine in defending their country from Putin.
Republicans are blocking the support of Ukraine, on Trump's orders.
That's Trump trying to give Putin what he wants, not Biden.
Republicans fear-mongered about Russians for 50 years. Now you have Tucker Carlson sucking off Putin
What happened to your side?
Putin is a horrible dictator and Russia is horrible for most Russians.
Do you see any Democrats praising Putin or Russia?
No, that's all your side. Your side has gone mad.
Maybe you just see a lot of Putin in Trump.
That's a BAD THING, you bunch of dumb-assess!
we can try to change our ideas about the country but God forbid anyone say anything good about the country.
just because their leader has made some decisions that we don't agree with does not mean the whole country is bad.
hunter got money from russia and ukraine and china, with 10% going to the "big guy" and I feel sure that was NOT a church for Gods work.
and when Trump tryed to get it exsposed they tried to hang him out to dry.
What you should do is judge anything or anyone on ethical principles.
If you do that, by any decent standard, what Putin did was wrong.
Then you consider 2 things:
1) Ukraine has the right to defend itself.
2) What happens if the modern Western world lets Ukraine lose?
This has no relationship whatsoever with Hunter Biden.
Not even if everything that was told about him was true.
I don't even like Ukraine. I vehemently opposed the EU-Ukraine trade agreement, because they do not share our production standards, but get to compete with companies who do on an unlevel playing field. We should have only allowed them access to our market, if they met our production standards.
I do not want them in the EU and I do not want them in NATO.
However, they were attacked by a dictator with big ambitions, to regain control of all the territories his country once lost. I care about peace and freedom and that's why Putin and Russia MUST LOSE, no matter the cost.
Meanwhile, you are talking about that this country made your cult-leader look stupid. Ukraine didn't do that, he did that himself. And you shouldn't care, because he does it all the time.
You're not an American, you're the follower of a traitor to America.
You're part of the confederacy, for defending an insurrection
and you're redcoat for thinking Trump has full immunity.
You want a kingdom of Trump, which makes you the hypocrite.
You're country isn't 'free', you're paying more for the basic necessities of life than I am. You're actually paying lots of taxes. Here's statistics for All-in average personal income tax rates at average wage by family type. If you are a single person, without children in the US, you pay 24.8% of your income in taxes. A person like that in The Netherlands would pay 27.7%, only a bit more. However, that tax-rate pays for much more things coming back in services from the government. We also have much lower costs for insurances and other private financial services. When you include health, house and car insurances, you're probably down at least $1000 per month on me.
Just like I don't hate America, I don't love 'joey'. You don't support the Constitution, you twist it into a pretzel to keep up your delusion that it supports your right-wing authoritarianism.
Trump left your country in chaos and debt, Biden created the strongest economy in decades, record low unemployment, rising wages and investments in 'Made in America', everything Trump lied about doing.
Trump is still braking laws, while he is standing trial for braking many laws and for being a traitor. You have nothing on Joe Biden. After Hunter Biden's trial for tax evasion in June is done, that's everything dealt with. Tax evasion is serious, but it fades against just one tax fraud case against Trump, who has many many many more of those cases. There's nothing like that on Joe Biden. You're only parroting weak accusations that have crumbled under any scrutiny. It's over and Republicans don't even want to talk about it anymore, because it shows them to be lying hypocrites. Even some Republicans are now leaving the party, because they cannot stand the lies, hypocrisy and disfunctionality anymore. All Trump's former allies have left him, all his former lawyers have left him, and they are now all testifying against him. It's only a matter of time, even Trump knows that. That's why he's making his lawyers do only obstruction and delay strategies. And he is also trying to use stochastic terrorism, telling his supporters to 'peacefully' obstruct the legal proceedings, coming Monday. They know he doesn't want it to be peaceful, but he's only saying that to not implicate himself in the violent attacks against the court that he's actually asking for. We will see how many followers he still has, who are prepared to break the law for him, so he can call them 'hostages'.
It is said by very few that biden will debate Trump. I hope that is true. Now would that not be a spectacle?
Come up with something REAL!!!
I know exactly how a debate with Trump and Biden will go; Trump will refuse to shut up for a second to let Biden talk,
because he knows Biden will make him look stupid.
Still, you would be convinced that Trump won, whatever happens.
That's why I would have voted for anyone else, when I could have
voted in your primaries. He's still a million times better than Trump.
Trump is incredibly embarrassing, being unable to speak even worse than Biden, showing his incredible stupidity on a daily basis even before his mind deteriorated, having to defend himself over committing fraud to hide him fucking a porn star, who calls it the filthiest minute of her life, having been found liable for sexual assault in court and defamation right after, having a wife that doesn't even want to be near him, still having to justify themself for 91 criminal indictments and counting, and constantly hiring lawyer after lawyer who embarrass themselves on TV for him, losing all his cases with their incompetency and needing to find lawyers themselves, for breaking the law in his defense.
(MAGA = Make Attorneys Get Attorneys).
It astounds me that you still support someone like that.
Just his first embarrassing phone call would have been enough
for me to drop my support and demand of my party to put someone better in that position.
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Meanwhile, right wing media is dropping dropping readers and viewers like flies.
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Biden sure is mumbling, but when you listen to what he says there's actual consistent information coming out of him. Trump looks and speaks more energetic, but when you listen, he sounds like a homeless crazy, shouting to pedestrians: "The end times are coming, the lizard people have taken over!".
I would bet anything on Biden beating Trump at identifying countries.
Actually, I'm afraid Biden would beat me at identifying countries.
Maybe Trump would beat you and that's your reason to consider him suitable. It's knowledge that you can understand, but it's hardly important to be able to point at a country on a blank map, to decide on Foreign Affairs. Knowledge of international law, the importance of countries on economic strength, military strength, historical alliances, political structure, political goals and what their people value is much more important. On that basis, Trump is ignorant as shit and Biden has decades worth of experience, that even the right-wing crony writing the report about his classified documents, Robert Hur, admits Biden showed “to have a photographic understanding and recall” on, while lying about the details that Biden supposedly forgot, to spread doubts about the president’s memory.
It's something you can keep telling yourself for ever, no matter the lack of evidence. It's a cop out from accepting facts.
Your not honestly following the evidence to a conclusion.
There is a conclusion that you want to believe and your
grasping at straws to find arguments to support your belief.
The evidence leads me to believe that Hunter did indeed get nice cushy jobs, that he wouldn't have gotten if he hadn't been the son of Joe Biden, even with his education and experience as a lawyer. I don't like that, because I'm a socialist. Meanwhile you have defended that system many times. When it's just another rich kid getting all the chances that normal people don't get, you just think that's how it should be, because wealth is in the DNA or something.
However, when it's the son of a Democratic president, it's the biggest sin in the world, all of a sudden. Be consistent!
The evidence that Joe Biden is somehow involved in what his son was doing is flimsy as fuck. There is also absolutely no motive for it. Joe has his own career and his own money. He doesn't need to get a cut from his son. The fact that you lot think like that makes me think: "Ill doers are ill deemers!". Look at your own side; with Trump and his family everything is transactional,
I don't see any love there. The only 'love' I see is from Trump, when he talks about Ivanka, but then it's clear that he just loves her body, that he wants to fuck. Joe Biden actually loves his son, even though he's not always doing well. He did however lose two brothers. Loss like that have turned many people to drug addiction. Still, Joe has stood by him and tried to help him anytime he could. A father like that wouldn't demand a cut from his son.
you would have to be naive as hell to think biden had no motive to peddle influence thru his son.
if they just had any convincing evidence.
But you're correct about 1 thing, rich people do have 1 goal, to get richer.
They don't care how they do it, what they destroy or who they step on.
They even sacrifice their own happiness for that money. Greed is an illness. Have you seen Trump being happy, like ever? Have you ever seen a millionaire or a billionaire, on your right-wing media, doing anything else but whining and complaining about something? I've only seen them complaining about how high their taxes are or how expensive and greedy workers are. They are sick from money and greed. If they were not so incredibly damaging to the rest of society, I would feel sorry for their misery.
Still, you think it's a good idea to cut their taxes and deregulate their businesses, because you think that will help the workers, by the trickle down fantasy that they sold you. It doesn't; those taxes are providing people with the basics for survival and those regulations are protecting the people from rich people sacrificing their health and safety, for any little bit more profit.
It's funny, how you always seem to understand things a lot better,
when we are talking about Democrats.
It's the progressive part of the Democratic party that actually agrees
with the working class having a life worth living.
There is no part of the Republican party that actually cares about people. They hide their hate for you, by distracting you with hate for others.
As long as you blame immigrants, black people, woke people, Democrats
and the whole idea that average Americans deserve something, they can keep abusing you.
It's nothing but projection.
"Trump has publicly described his "very close relationship " with President Putin and was awarded Russia's Order of Friendship in 2013, the highest state honor possible for a foreigner.
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Russian President Vladimir Putin says the cases against former US President Donald Trump are political revenge that shows the fundamental corruption of American politics."
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Putin is former kgb. he is not dumb.mad ,cruel,evil perhaps,but not dumb.
I would much rather have a President that can get along with and communicate with Putin and Kim than to have the senile old man that is going to push the big button thinking it is the door bell.
They don't even want to vote for it. They have 'studied' it since January 2023.
They have all Biden's financial records.
They found nothing. It's all based on lies!
The reason is that Republicans could not defend Trump's corruption.
So they accused Biden of corruption, to level the playing field.
There's just one difference; there's evidence for all Trump's crimes.
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So do you call every President that gets along with Putin a clown?
Is it not easier to protect a nation by communicating with other nations and being aware of their notions about us than to be like Kim Un?
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Karma is a bitch, right?
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I would say that RFK is more of an alternative for right-wingers,
than for liberals and lefties.
that is the issue with just 2 partys, he wouldn't even be allowed in a debate.
The question is how many right-wingers don't like Trump and see RFK as an alternative. Many of the people who voted for Nikki Haley in the primaries say
that they would even prefer voting for Biden over voting for Trump.
There are lots more 'never-Trumpers' than 'never-Bideners'.
How many Democratic voters think that controversial conspiracy theorist and anti-vaxxer RFK is a good alternative for Biden? And how many of them like his pick for vice-president, Nicole Shanahan, more than they like Kamala Harris? I don't know for sure, but I think more Republicans like conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxers, who have VP's whose only qualification is being wealthy, than Democrats.
Donald Rumsfeld said that in the context of the Iraq war but now it applies to Israel.”
-Fareed Zakaria
There is no right answer. just kill until the other side stops killing.
Yep,thats what the libs want us to do.
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"Alexander Smirnov was paid $600,000 in 2020 – the same year he allegedly began lying to FBI about Bidens’ role in Ukraine business."
"An American company that paid the now indicted FBI informant Alexander Smirnov in 2020 is connected to a UK company owned by Trump business associates in Dubai, according to business filings and court documents."
So literally a paid disinformation/smear campaign, organized by Trump.
You can only wait until he faces consequences for that; indictment #4328.
I'm objectively not lying, because I'm referring to real news from many credible sources. I'm reporting the fact, that Alexander Smirnov is in custody, awaiting trial:
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All the stories about Hunter and Joe Biden having received $ 5 million each from Burisma, were based on nothing else than Alexander Smirnov's 'testimony'.
Everything he has said turns out to be false, it turns out he had been caught lying
in two another cases in 2015 and 2017 and the FBI had considered Smirnov a liar
and a fraudster for years.
Now you better provide any evidence that the story about the $ 5 million from Burisma
is based on anything real. Maybe you can help Alexander Smirnov to get off from being indicted and facing a maximum of 25 years for 'lying' about Biden bribes.
If you can't, you're the liar and you're full of shit.
The Guardian say: "Alexander Smirnov was paid $600,000 by the Texas-based Economic Transformation Technologies. ETT’s chief executive is Christopher Condon, who is also one of three shareholders in the now-dissolved ETT Investment Holding Limited in London. The other two shareholders are Pakistani-American investor Shahal Khan and Dubai businessman Farooq Arjomand. Both Khan and Arjomand boast ties to Trump “through Trump associates,” according to The Guardian. Arjomand, who was also listed as an adviser on ETT’s American website, is also a board member of Damac Properties, a Dubai developer that has “partnered with Trump for a decade,” The Guardian reported. The former chairman of Damac, billionaire Hussain Sajwani, is close with the former president, attending his 2016 inauguration. “Hussein, Damac, a friend of mine, a great guy,” Trump reportedly said in 2017."
It will take some time to get all those ties investigated, in so far as they can link the money to the lying and it being a criminal offense.
So, what's your source for claiming that the US paid that money?
In any case, the whole Hunter Biden case is now flat on its ass
and Republicans don't even want to be reminded about it any more.
Too bad, if they find out that Comer and his friends knew about it being
nothing but lies, they are complicit and should face indictments too.
You came to me first. I gave you knowledge of the common good and you rejected it. Excuse of saying the movie was made in 1941 so it has no validity because it is too old. Here was the definition of a country and you rejected that too. We don't have anything else to talk about. Our languages and paths have 2 different vectors in opposite directions. Yes I took calculus 3. I understand vectors.
Until you give me the true structure and definition of a country and democracy, or at least try probing into its existence we have nothing else to discuss.
My synopsis to you has been plain. I asked what your desires were and you did not answer. I asked you what democracy was and you ignored. It's time to pretend you are not here anymore. I'm sure in time you will make the right choice.
However, it's a useless discussion with you. The future will show who's right.
By the way, got you ass kicked out again and now trying #7?
It's getting a bit ridiculous, don't you think?
How do you know I was kicked out? Sounds like you are using fakes to censor my speech. You're a total fuck up and deserved to be squashed. You do not deserve to have this platform.
Just shut the fuck up already, Total fucking piece of trash that needs to be disposed of.
Why don't you just check your own stories for once, instead of parroting those dumb lies. It's not so difficult. It's all out there for anyone to read. You just prefer to keep believing those lies.
Because I'm being nice and to put this with honor and integrity as a human being, I'm saying the reason you do not understand the words I'm writing is because you lack education, you're ignorant(pet peeve of mine) stupid and dumb. is thee any other way I can express my kindness to you so you don't go crying to mommy?
That would support your claims, if it was actually incriminating.
But, you didn't. Why? Is that too difficult for you?
Or can you not find anything that IS actually incriminating?
Show that you have integrity and do some research.
You can call it what you want, incriminating or wrong or whatever. The truth is what it is. You're ignorace keeps you from an opened mind. Shows your intelligence and awareness is limited. You are one of the few members here that don't have a clue what I'm saying but most do have an understanding.. But others do so why is that. You've said I've been wrong for over a month now. Why do you keep writing to me?
The democratic party was formed as an activation antagonistic of the constitution that was written in 1787. Aaron Burr crated the movement but was put on trial for treason. Jefferson wanted to give him the death penalty but was voted down only to exile him beyond the nations physical borders at that current time which was west of Appalachia.. They controlled slavery in the south until the emancipation proclamation immediately following the formation in Tennessee by the left wing KKK. Left wing is left of moral correctness. There is no right since it either conforms or not. Left is wrong, right is right.
This is the truth, you want to say I'm wrong its fine but you are from Europe. I've lived here my whole life.
Joe Biden is guilty of treason from damaging our national sovereignty through bribery, influence peddling and money laundering with hostile countries against USA. The evidence is overwhelming with bank record transactions. The FBI, DOJ, CIA refuse to initiate investigations because they are used to cover up Biden's crimes but as it turns out the entire democratic party is guilty of the same crimes as well as 90% of Republicans in the house and senate.
I don't see a solution anytime soon
You're a little snowflake, who thinks you can win an argument with vulgarism.
You're only dishonoring yourself and the side you represent.
You will have riots and violence with no police, deliveries or anyone to put out fires. Many people will be killed. It's called civil war. So if Biden keeps doing this shit its going to get very very nasty. Look whats in NYC. Nobody wants to live there anymore. Nobody7 wants to work there anymore and why the fuck should they if it costs them money to deliver groceries? Firefighters being threatend of being hunted because they yelled Trump for 30 seconds? Now its war and the unions are going to pull out of NYC meaning nobody to put out the fires. They know that fuck is a lying crook that hates israel. Now they are saying he is faking his senility to get out of going to trial for treason. We already know. Everyone who has a brain slightly bigger than a pinhead knows exactly what is going on and what will happen if he treats trump like a political prisoner.
He had classified documents in his garage. He was not president when he stole them. Even the vice president is forbidden to take them, yet he said his staff did it? Than more people should be hung. Obama's responsibility of not protecting those documents makes him responsible. Clinton's server selling classified documents.
Here's the thing. The resistant movement will not stop with the boycotts, not ever. People already know the truth and are tired of it. It's coming to an end one way or another.
All these charges do not apply to Biden. Biden returned the documents he had, as soon as he found out he had them and fully cooperated in the investigation.
Biden didn't have any documents that he wasn't supposed to have in his personal possession as vice-president.
That's why Biden has not been indicted and that's why Trump still faces 37 felony counts related to the mishandling of classified documents, obstructing justice and making false statements.
Get an education first. until then there is nothing i can do for you.
What the hell do I do with your definition of a country?
A country is one of the concepts that is defined BY LAW.
It is accurately defined by every dictionary, unlike other concepts.
We know what the word 'country' means. This is not debatable.
International law describes how countries are recognized.
I don't need your definition of a word that is already accurately defined.
If you are struggling with definitions of concepts that almost everyone agrees on what they mean, than you are the one needs to get an education first.
Everyone who had an education already understands what a country is.
Here is the applicable definition of 'definition':
"the action or process of stating the meaning of a word or word group"
Now, if you have opinions of what countries SHOULD BE, that's a discussion you can have, with anyone who's interested in it. That's not DEFINING a 'country'.
I'm not interested in that discussion. I'm fine with what countries are.
It has no strong relation with any of my convictions.
The RNC was already struggling with declining donations, but now Trump is cleaning out the cash register even more.
Lots of retiring Republicans need to be replaced with new idiots, who depend on the media posting lying ads for them. The media won't do that for free.
Democrats don't have those financial troubles. They are not controlled by someone who's only qualification is being married to Eric Trump.
Why do you think this is in any way related with RNC campaign donations?
When Republican voters donate to the RNC, they are not donating to Trump.
Lara Trump might be breaking the law there.
It's also very likely a campaign finance violation, if Trump uses that money
to pay for his personal indictments.
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It's still ridiculously close, but that's against Joe Biden.
Neither of these two old demented men should be the candidates.
I know Trump is 'the best' you have, but there are many better Democrats.
Impeachment hearings get very nasty
More evidence submitted on the Biden family scheems including treasonous transactions with China manipulating our policies and regulations.
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All funded by the democrat party of ww2. Now Israel is a country of solidarity and is fighting back. Biden doesn't know what to do with them. There will be no more cease fires.
I am learning how to make slaw so not only do I want to make America Great again, I am learning how to make it Grater!
1 head of cabbage, onion, salt pepper, vinegar ,cup of DUKES mayonnaise, 1 spoon of Grey Poupon mustard, and a little dab of ground cayenne pepper. if it sits a couple days, it's better than if you eat it fresh after making it.
Never thought of using ranch? I may have to use part of a head of cabbage in a different bowel and make it with ranch and see how it works,can't be bad,who don't like ranch? It would just be different.
Absolutely, but why are you a Trump supporter then?
But, the work is the reward of itself.
"taken care of by the government and make no effort."
That's just a dumb straw-man. I want to help people maximize their potential.
That's the opposite of your dumb idea about socialism.
Socialism means solidarity; all helping each other to succeed.
We want to take care of people who CANNOT do that themselves.
But of course, you think that only applies to YOU.
Everyone else is just a moocher.
I have talked to people where that was my first impression.
Until you hear the story of their lives, then you start understanding.
In any case, literally anyone who is perceived by others as a moocher,
doesn't think of themselves like that. They ALL have reasons for their
inability to be useful to society. If you let them muddle in that belief,
they will find reasons to be worse than useless, they will turn damaging.
Maybe your solution is to then punish them or force them somehow.
My solution is to turn their thinking around, before they turn damaging.
Not only because of their value as a human being, but also because
it's MORE EFFECTIVE! It creates a better society, for everyone involved.
It's better than building prisons as a garbage disposal.
Some people have the strength to pull through misfortune, some don't.
If you think making it harder on them will help, I'm sure you are wrong.
Maybe you have been going through rough times too. Maybe you pulled yourself out of it, with no help at all. Most people who succeed do get some help.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could all depend on each other for help?
My socialism is based on one thing; organizing that.
This is more important to socialism : moochers are not the biggest problem.
People who feel entitled to exploit everyone and everything, are worse.
They cause way more damage to society. They cause death, destruction, pollution, poverty, misery and economic damage. Some of them are those moochers turned damaging, some are raised that way from childhood.
They might be wealthy and powerful, but they have the character of moochers; useless and lazy. As a socialist, my prime objective is to help people understand that and work together to reduce the damaging effect of those moochers.
If possible, I would take all their wealth and power, because they are NOT entitled to it, but for now I must be realistic. Too many people do not understand which type of moocher is the real problem.
Gasoline was $1.87 a gallon in 2020. Now in CA you can't afford to dive a car. What was affordable for food is now unreachable. Baby formula is given priority for people that are illegally in this country for free. Homeless people that fought for this country are made homeless for illegal aliens to live rent free, free cell phones, healthcare, college tuition while legal taxpayers have to sweat their asses off paying back $200.000 Harvard loans that openly hate Jews.
The middle east was stable before Biden. He stopped the sanctions and gave money OUR MONEY to a terrorist country of Iran so they can build their arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. Soon the regional war will become a world war. Russia wants their cut and so does China. Biden is in fact the enemy of the free world. He was just put there to put back the regulations, close our supply of oil then getting bribes to buy from overseas...
Sounds like a fair cop to me. You hate trump, fine. We are just 2 different people and it is not my responsibility to fight with you over right and wrong. Just makes us different. You are to choose your own path. Give me the decency to choose mine.
But if the liberals want someone to fight with then I’m there huckleberry what are you gonna do liberals pull them pistols or whistle Dixie go ahead make my day
Liberalism is the ideology behind The Constitution, not conservatism.
Wikipedia actually gives some nice definitions:
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law.
Conservatism is a cultural, social, and political philosophy that seeks to promote and to preserve traditional institutions, customs, and values.
At the time, the Founders wrote The Declaration of Independence, the traditional institutions, customs, and values were autocratic. Power was centralized and people were ruled by a small group of elites, most often as hereditary entitlement.
Conservatism was focused on keeping that system in place.
The vision of the Founders was the exact opposite of those traditional institutions, customs, and values. The United States Declaration of Independence starts:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."
That is the DEFINITION OF LIBERALISM!
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And the next time you use names on me on a demeaning attitude this is going to get nasty. I may decide just to ban you or tit-for-tat but I'd rather not. You approached me and you started debating but I will not put up with names.
I will not click on links of bullshit fake news of facts. This is a debate on how we view our constitution. Since you are not of this country you were not briefed on american history as I have during the 1970s. all you go by is your sociologic point of view.
I know more thann you think,,,, don't insult my intelligence with your ignorance.
Libertarianism is minimizing government interference, with the goal of maximizing personal freedom. Libertarianism doesn't in any way guarantee "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" or provides the people with 'Unalienable Rights'. Without the state actively protecting those goals, anyone can just come and take them from you.
Liberalism is the goal of actively protecting "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness" and those 'Unalienable Rights'.
It requires a strong government that 'exists to serve its citizens.'. That requires "equal justice under law", which requires "three independent and coequal branches of government".
"We the People, in order to form a more perfect union, establish justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty, to ourselves and our posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America."
'Establish', 'insure', 'provide', 'promote' and 'secure' are all ACTIVE tasks for the government, to provide with law and order, while in Libertarianism the idea is to step back and let the people arrange their own freedoms.
The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution and it Amendments are all filled to the brim with very much Liberal principles and not Libertarian principles.
Have you ever even read The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution
and it Amendments, or is that also fake news?
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These people that call themselves liberals or just plain liars want to demolish freedom for speech for one so how is that being liberal? They are liars. You haven't read anything you just go around in circles. How is Trump to blame for this?
The don't want to conserve any freedom that you have now.
Trump uses the term 'fake news' 24/7, so he can gut freedom of the press.
Provide evidence for liberals wanting to demolish free speech.
I'd say the republicans that do what they say, the amount,, 5 or less.
The odds are very tough with the numbers. I've lost most of my family because they are deep liberals. I'm a racist.
They are putting him up on fake charges, making him go to court and so forth, forget about Georgia now, the prosecuter against Trump there will be going to jail soon. She broken the law many times and its out in the open. The democrats won't be able to convict him because it would expose them politically.
SO, with that said, millions say they hate trump and we outnumbered and up against the wall constantly. So why would I put my pride and honor on the line supporting him? Because it's the right thing to do. I am peace with what my mind, my heart and my instincts are telling me.
That's because they only tell you what the Republicans want you to hear.
They are a propaganda outlet, nothing more.
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When they told you thousands of times that the election was stolen, they didn't even believe it themselves. They knew Trump was lying, and they were telling each other that all the time, but they did their job, of repeating those lies, as the propaganda machine they are, for their stupid followers.
Free speech isn't the right to say whatever you want.
The limits on free speech are: incitement, defamation, fraud, obscenity,
child pornography, fighting words, and threats.
Trump has sued many media companies, because he claimed they defamed him. He can do that, because defamation is not protected by free speech.
He lost all (or most of) his defamation cases, because he could not provide evidence of intent, damage and that the news about him was untrue,
which is what's needed to prove defamation.
He just want to sue the media that criticizes him.
Do you understand free speech? That's not it!
Trump wants to 'open up the libel laws'. Ever heard him say it?
That means he wants to make it easier to sue the media for defamation.
That's the exact OPPOSITE from supporting free speech.
That's EVIDENCE of Trump wanting to CENSOR the media.
Understand that, if Trump would actually 'open up the libel laws', FOX News and all you other right-wing media would get sued to smithereens, because they defame people and companies 24/7. Does Dominion ring a bell?
Actually, Trump himself would be sued to death.
Twitter is NOT the government. They have a TOS (Terms Of Service), that can restrict any form of speech they see fit. Just like YouTube can restrict people from saying "Shit!" or "Fuck!", which are protected by free speech laws.
The problem is that you don't know anything. People tell you something and you parrot it around, without ever thinking about it.
I'm not asking you for evidence because I need it, but because I want you to realize that you don't have any. Your media tells you the things that you believe without evidence and you accept it without evidence. Maybe they SAY they have evidence, but they certainly don't SHOW you. I'm actually checking the evidence that they SAY THEY HAVE. Every time that I do that, I find out that they are LYING.
Before you say that CNN and MSNBC are lying too; I am aware of that, but they do lie a lot less. When they say they have evidence, it checks out.
Also, I don't watch them much, because they are corporate approved media, just like FoxNews and all the right-wing media. I don't like grifters. I listen to people who are independent, honest, objective and provide evidence.
You say he cheated people. Why because he was smart? He never shoved deals down people's throat. That's what business is. No charity. Its business. To make a deal he needs others to sign the line. Trump got rich because he was smart. You talk about him threatening people but yet you don't show examples to back up your claim just like every single extreme pointed headed left liberal. You want to discuss then discuss like a man not like the usual fucking moron. Get to the point then finish it. All liberals talk racism, threatening, white suppremacy. it's shallow because they can't use critical thinking to support their claims because they are not people. They are the fake news puppets of the world just like you.
You want to make accusations then back it up. Don't just give cheap shots then back off. You watch CNN and MSNBC and you believe them. That's because you're stupid,,, that's why.
They are on the opposite of the political spectrum of me, in my country.
They are just propaganda for the corporate wing of the Democrats.
Just like Fox'News' is the propaganda for the Republicans.
There is no TV media supporting socialism. Even our most left-wing
public broadcasting company, VPRO–HUMAN, is only progressive left.
To be a socialist, even in The Netherlands, means being absolutely independent in ideas, principles and goals for civilization.
Right-wingers and conservatives have hundreds of choices of media
for their daily dose of indoctrination. That's where you all get it.
People who are in the top 10 percentile have no incentive to support systemic changes that would favor the bottom 90%.
In America, all the media is controlled by big corporations, owned by billionaires. No socialist will even be invited for a job interview, much less get hired. All your 'news' is corporate approved capitalist propaganda.
They are either paying lip-service to the Democratic establishment or to
the Republican establishment. Socialism threatens their wealthy owners.
You're the dumb-ass who thinks any of them care about YOU.
It's not 'greedy' to demand that ALL your representatives care
about you AND every other American AND the country AND the world that supports all of our lives. THAT'S THEIR FUCKING JOB!!!
We can't debate about this anymore.. You're just to ignorant and fucking stupid to have any further inquiry.
I'm going to vote for Trump again. I live in a swing state and they can't fuck with votes where I am or did in 2020. They found out how the cheated in the election. This won't happen again this time.
I'm going to vote for trump like I did in 16 and 20,, and in 24 for primary and election.. MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
Present those mountains of evidence then, because I've only heard
allegations that have all been destroyed in court.
If I'm so stupid, it must be easy for you to show that I'm wrong
with irrefutable facts. But, you just want me to do 'further inquiry'.
I've heard that a million times before, from people who only watch Fox'News'
or worse fake news, that just make claims without evidence, but you distrust
every source that provides actual evidence, like your own system of law.
I have investigated all your claims before, and they break down,
with just the tiniest bit of fact checking.
So what fact checking have you done, to dismiss claims against Trump?
When was America so great, and what made America great?
If you don't know, it is just a hollow slogan.
They got to you.. They don't target educated and people with common sense that already have a common frame of reference. The common frame of reference you never learned, which is not your fault. But now they are losing the black votes more and more every cycle. That' why they have opened borders to replace the voters with captioned audiences. You have to undertand these people including republicans for the most part.. They won't think twice stealing your soul if it means maintaining or increasing their platforms.
They target the vulnerable less educated and younger populations, not seasoned college graduates that do in fact know more than their ass or elbow.
That's however over 20 years ago. I got educated much more at work.
I'm fortunate enough to work for an employer that provides lots of budget for educational purposes. It's necessary, because I work in a high tech, high complexity environment. Everything we do has to follow the scientific method. I'm part of a team of experts, that introduces new processes, improves existing processes and solves problems for the company. We analyse why incidents are happening, we find the root cause, then we analyse all possible solutions and argue which are the most effective. An incorrect solution doesn't reduce the deficiency and has a risk to create new deficiencies. That's why everything we do is based on evidence, logic and science,
of the highest standard.
So what's your education?
In any case not something to proudly mention here.
At least you have enough dignity to not just make something up.
But, this forum topic is obviously intended for discussing politics.
If you are unwilling to do that, what are you doing here?
And you can say the color is shit is green If I said it was brown. Everything I have said is liberalism. It's dog shit.
You've come to me. I welcomed your input at first respectfully. The first fucking libtard fucking dog shitting sentence that came out of your dog shitting riddled mouth I was delusional. What I'm doing here is non of your fucking business. Why you are here is because your a fake. Just like Woody and just like CAT I know why you are here.
What I have said has been straight up and transparent. The topic is politics. BUT if I say something to you in truth and not political and you're too fucking dumb to assimilate what I'm saying then I am saying you're too fucking dumb to assimilate with me speaking the truth. I haven't lied one time. Just because you're too fucking dumb to understand it is what it is. What can I do about it?.
This is not my fault you are too fucking stupid. Why blame me? What the fuck are you going to do about it? Nothing. You have to understand I speak the truth, you lie then sugarcoat it. This draws no respect from me. You are the disease filth of humanity. Told you I speak the truth.
The reason there is hatred, poverty, lack of education of children is because of people like you. Maybe if you fucking jerk off 10000 times you're dick will fall off so there won't be any copy of what you are.
You came to me. I didn't come to y.ou. I call you too fucking dumb to draw conclusions of elementary level and you keep talking to me. How fucking dumb is that? The more stupidity you give to me reflects on how more stupid than you really are every single time
You came here thinking you found a safe space to send out nonsense.
Unfortunately for you, I am here and I have a hobby of destroying nonsense. If you can't handle it, go away. You will feel better, if you find a forum where only right-wingers, agreeing with each other.
You are obviously not smart enough to discuss ideas with arguments. You are doing nothing but character assassination. It's fine, I keep showing everyone that you're doing it.
"What can I do about it?"
"Why blame me? What the fuck are you going to do about it?"
Those are not worth answering.
If you have an open (privacy acceptable) question for me, without you putting a claim in it that isn't true, then I will answer it.
You've given 500 word essays that circumvent. But that's a norm for liberals. With all the circumvention then you zoom in on Trump. That's brain damage when you circumvent that so how blame it on trump. I've stopped shaking my head with your mental retardation weeks ago. I am a sucker for conversation though. You got me there. You feel better now?
Let's think logic now. Colorado was going to take trump off the ballot. Truckers brought them to their knees with 10% reduction of deliveries and colorado shut the fuck up and stopped trying. NOW in nyc, the roads are crumbling, costs are skyrocketing and NYS charges truck drivers $15 toll take to drive into manhattan to deliver. Because of the trump decision to steal 500M from him the truck boycott now has hit 23% less delivery. Nobody wants to go there and its getting worse. Truckers make more money NOT going into NYC so why should they?. The trucking industry is the bloodline of any country. No deliveries. crook politicians go broke and God help them on election day.
My assessment is step up the pressure. Fuck em. They are stealing from people giving money to drug dealers and terrorists while bridges are unsafe and roads crumbling.
I better keep this as it is because I don't want to get too complex with you because of your stupidity. Here's the point. People as stupid as you think trump is bad. Problem is the truckers don't give a fuck how stupid and fucked up you are, especially when you don't even belong here. You're one fucked up fucktard hating trump.. Kebmo is same as you.
That tells me you are him. Same type of pictures same stupidity. Perfect logic. Both of you are cunts, stupid and don't have a fucking clue how stupid you are in front on the entire world. You can't win. I have the truth. People see this. But keep acting dumb. This is fun
Colorado was asked to take Trump of the ballot. Their court granted a petition, brought by six Colorado voters, under the Colorado Election Code to exclude Trump from the presidential primary ballot. The court has stayed that decision, pending further review from the Colorado Supreme Court. Whatever they will reply, the Colorado court will do. What the truckers want will not change that outcome.
What you are claiming about New York trucker having an impact might be completely true or completely false. The news coverage is so much disagreeing with each other, that it's just a matter of who do you want to trust. I don't do trust, I deal in evidence. I've seen no evidence either way. What you are telling me isn't evidence either, because you are just saying it, without divulging any sources. There are also source that claim a 30% decline in deliveries. Other sources say that they cannot find any truckers who are actually willing to sacrifice their jobs for Trump. Unless someone shows me photographs from reliable sources of traffic jams caused by trucks or empty shelves, I'm agnostic about the issue. Whatever the reality is, no judge will revert their ruling over a couple of truckers. Trump will have to pay up. If he want to stay the enforcement of the judgment, by appealing, he has to find someone providing bond for him or he has to put up the $464 million ($350 million + interest) himself. If he doesn't, within 30 days, they can seize his assets.
I don't care what you think about my identity. I've been here for at least 11 years, using this account. You can check that. As I told you before, no one has any credibility here. Everyone who is remaining anonymous will have to debate on the merit of their arguments. Some people think that you also have another account. I have told them that I don't care.
I cheered you up with a nice puppy. You didn't say thank you.
I'll say the question a 5th time because you are stupid. Socialism or by any other names its been called for 6000 years has failed in poverty, death and mass destruction of billions of people. Why do you think socialism will work today. You AVOID the question because you know the answer is Zero.
Don't underestimate the power of truckers. This was not a judicial decision and it encompassed A political movement. The ones that control this is the people. This is democracy. You don't have a clue what you are talking about and you're not even an american citizen. The court is under appeal and this I'm curious to see its outcome. Say you win the appeal and seize his possessions will take many months if not years to collect. Oh, and by the way, this is liberal NYS. This judge forced 13 million people into poverty. This are democrat voters. I wonder how NY will vote after they have no place to live and no where to go. This brings it past election day. These people are crooks and it will take many months to pick out judges and other crooks to create the spectacle. Stop being stupid again. I hate when you do that. It's not good for me and its worse for you.
I've asked you this question several times. Don't play mind games with me because you will lose.
I've been on the site since 2009 so I've been here longer than you. This is my only account because I no longer wish to participate in a site where it is permissible to post fake pictures and fake accounts.
It's not my job to convince you or any other moron what is real and what is not. I'm not your mother and I don't care what you do. I'm here to compose truth, learning and bonding. What you do is your own stupid fucked up moronic business. This is not my responsibility.
I've answered your question, why I think socialism will work today, but I will share some more about it.
First of all, socialism isn't 6000 years old. From Wikipedia: "The origins in the Age of Enlightenment and the 1789 French Revolution along with the changes that it brought, although it has precedents in earlier movements and ideas." Before that time there was nothing but concentrated power, owned by royalty, religious leaders and other elites. Before that, every effort of people demanding power for the working-class/the poor/the serfs had been squashed into submission. The origins of socialism are exactly the same as the origins of democracy. It wasn't until the 19th century that the movements split into communism in the east and democratic socialism in the west of Europe. They eventually developed into the labor parties that are still found all over Europe. The labor parties are responsible for an incredible rise in quality of life for the working class, by organizing unions, housing programs, social security, human rights, education and free of affordable healthcare everywhere. The governments needed to provide all these benefits to the working class, because of a constant threat of violent revolution, from people being favorable to the communism in the east. The term 'socialism' was very popular during those times. Every populist despot used the term to get the people behind them. All of them were however right-wing authoritarians (fascists), who used nationalism as fake socialism, but meanwhile increased their own power and the power of the wealthy over the means of production.
In most countries in Europe, the modern Socialist Parties were founded one or more decades after WWII, because the term 'socialism' had lost much of its popularity, because of the NAZI's (Nationalsozialist). The labor parties were in control in most European countries, rebuilding all the damage from the war, in close cooperation with capitalists, who invested heavily in rebuilding the economy.
In the decades after the war, several European countries implemented many socialist principles into their government, like socialized ownership of almost all public utilities, housing, healthcare, education, banks, utilization of fossil fuels and other resources, harbors, sea barriers, farmland, fishing areas, nature reserves, police, fire-departments and the military, combined with high taxes on the wealthy paying for all that socialized ownership, as far as it didn't pay for itself. The socialized political structure consisted of various levels of representational and direct democracy.
The assets of capitalism were limited to privately owned manufacturing, retail and private banking systems. The power of capitalism was often expressed in the Senate (House of Lords), where the elites have or had the power of approving or rejecting bills, initiated by the house of representatives (House of Commons).
The decades after the war were simultaneously the most politically and economically socialism dominated ever in Europe's history, as well as seeing the strongest wealth increase of the middle and lower class in history.
In more recent decades, after the unification of Europe in the EU, European legislation enforced the privatization of most socialized ownership and most public utilities. Everything that was privatized started to rise in costs for citizens immediately, while generating profits for the wealthy owners who had bought the public wealth at bargain prices. Well-paying government jobs for the common man turned into jobs for the uneducated, paying starvation wages. This resulted in a massive increase in wealth inequality.
The US has always been more capitalist than Europe, but even during those times the wealthy paid much higher taxes, while the middle class could by a house with a picket fence and a nice car. Your American dream was attainable for the average factory worker or shop attendant. Look at how they are living now. Starvation wages for uneducated people and extreme wealth for the elites. That happened because political bribes were legalized, buying your politicians to lower taxes for the rich and cutting spending on everything for normal people. Why do you say MAGA? Make America Great AGAIN. Yes, referring to your time of rising wealth for everyone, which was also the period your economy came the closest ever to socialism.
That is the proof that socialism will work today; it has worked wonders before.
This is your first and only account, since 2009, called Trump_supporter_2, while Trump became president in 2017. That's strange at least.
Also, in all this time you haven't bothered to put up one single photo, on a site called showitoff (formerly showyourdick). I don't care if you just look at the dicks, but some guys care about some reciprocity.
This site actually restricted posting fake pictures, making it impossible to post pictures anonymously. That's why I stopped posting intimate photographs, because I don't trust this site with my identity. I came to this site to talk about sex. To my surprise, there is a diverse group of active members discussing all sorts of topics here. I like that diversity, do you?
You don't seem to be looking for the truth and learning. You seem to be only interested in getting your own opinions acknowledged and perpetuated.
Of course to you I'm not here to learn and develop wellbeing from your advantage point. This is why from my standpoint youre idea getting to utopia is preposterous. From day one you were born in Netherlands? That is how you developed. I can understand that. Here is America when I went to college I took a course in philosophy back in 1982 at the New York Institute of Technology. I really didn't want to take it. I just wanted to get my degree and go work.. My counselor told me that the course is easy, just do the work hand it in and it's an A. The entire course was based on Plato's Republic. The main character was Socretes exploring the unknowns of existence. He was mostly homeless and when he was married his wife had a bad temper,, violent temper. Socretes kept asking questions about life. His wife couldn't take it so she smashed a pot over his head. He rubs his head saying "ah, this is proof thunder always follows lightning"
I fell in love with the subject and wanted to study more. I wanted the understand the notion of moral correctness. Good virtue, piety and so forth. After college I kept showing interest. To be a conservative is to learn. To be a conservative is to be stoic. To be a conservative is to find the truth. To be a conservative is to teach. Can you imagine wanting to teach but yet learn more just from teaching? That is a thesis in itself. A years worth.
This is your first and only account, since 2009, called Trump_supporter_2, while Trump became president in 2017. That's strange at least.//// of course not. This name has only existed for a a few weeks at most. What I'm saying is that I joined this site back in september of 2009. I did have windows of no participation but its been very brief. I was planning on staying outside the site permanently until many members that know my facebook account missed me on the site. I agreed to come back but the site in my opinion is a skeleton of what it used to be. It had great potential and it was unique 15 years ago. Trolling, lack of leadership and biased with members or 2 based justice system made people leave. During the coarse of the sites life I saw **** images on main screen loaded up with votes to keep them on main page. I heard complaints were ignored. I did not wish to participate with photos while **** mostly boys prepubic age continue to be shown.
Socialism has never worked. However I'm convinced that from the heart you truly feel it does. There is no isolated form of right wing fascists. To you they are to the right of you since you are left, but not crossing the imaginary line of moral correctness. Rhino republicans are not right wing. They are to the left but lie MORE. It doesn't mean they are right wing. They are to the left. White supremacists that the left call extreme right are supported by the LEFT... The bank records show. Like I said before its either right or it is wrong. Morally correct or incorrect. Right or wrong. Right is down the middle, left is wrong. The left was an activist deviating from the constitution was developed by Aaron Burr who opposed it. Jefferson was the president at the time, and he did go on trial for treason. He was found guilty, but they didn't hang him(they could have but they didn't) instead he was exiled to the outside of the 13 colonies west of the Mississippi river. The party use to be anti-constitution January 8, 1828; 196 years ago. Are listed Andrew Jackson. Martin Van Buren the founders.
But the TRUE founder was Aaron burr. There is a good article in wikipedia but some disregard as propaganda.
You have no idea what I'm thinking.
The more spread your cheeks only thihg comes out is dog shit. This is the only thing you've displayed. I truly feel sorry for you and your embarrassed mother.
So, what a dumb remark was that.
And you think you're smarter than me.
You were just born this way so I don't hold you responsible.
So let us all make love and not stupidity..
Claims that you like are true to you, no matter the evidence against it
and claims that you don't like are lies to you, no matter the evidence supporting it. That's called intellectual dishonesty.
I agree. Our country is special but “Liberalism” is not a movement. It’s a way of thinking, an ethos, if you will.
Liberalism is the willingness to respect or accept behaviour or opinions different from one's own and to be open to new ideas.
It’s also a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.
Some conservatives go “by constitutional rule by what it states.” I’m not sure what you mean, but, if you mean by the literal written words then I know liberals can’t go with that. As humanity goes forward so must our laws be changed to fit the situation. The original version of the Constitution disallowed the Feds from interfering with the importation of slaves into those states that allowed it. Surely you don’t approve of slavery.
Socrates identifies knowledge with virtue. If knowledge can be learned, so can virtue. Thus, Socrates states virtue can be taught. He believes “the unexamined life is not worth living.” One must seek knowledge and wisdom before private interests. In this manner, knowledge is sought as a means to ethical action.
Liberals don’t think conservatives are a threat to democracy. Liberals think racism, misogyny, and close mindedness to different life styles ARE a threat to democracy. This threat is not a conservative thing. Anyone can be in this obnoxious group. At the moment it seems that there are many conservatives in this group. An example is DeSantis and Trump, but, there are many more.
You say we, the liberals, don’t have an idea what “democracy” is. Ok, enlighten this liberal as to what democracy is. Is it a system where half the population thinks everything should be their way or the highway? Because, I’m open minded to many conservative causes and, yet, my views are not respected at all. So, again, Trump_supporter_2 please tell me, “What is Democracy?”
Trump_supporter_2, you don’t know what is an American? Let me tell you, then, “An American, a true American, is someone who loves the USA and is willing to fight for its people, all the Americans. What about his desires? Isn’t that a personal thing?
The other part, “How does being racist have anything to do with voting with the best candidate that represents conforming with constitutional law?”, that’s easy. It has nothing to do with it and everything. You can be a racist and still vote. That’s what this democracy says it can be. Now, the question is, “Did you mean if you are racist or the candidate being racist”? If it’s you, then I would question your judgment to be a good American in your choice. If it’s the candidate, then I would say he’s not fit to be in office. A leader should be a leader to all and not be prejudiced towards anyone.
All politicians lie. It’s in their job description. Many teachers lie too but if you think Donald Trump speaks the truth then you are in denial. Just Google “lies spoken by Trump September 2023.
But, his actions, more than what he says, is why he shouldn’t serve a second term. Inciting an insurrection is as bad as it gets.
The right thing is the right thing. It doesn’t matter how many think it is or is not. Facts are what count. Having said that, there’s the old saying, “If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it’s PROBABLY a duck.
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During the summer of 2018, the average national price of a gallon of gas was around $2.94. That was during the second year of the Trump administration. Today’s average is $3.04. In Miami it’s $2.79 at BJ’s.
This proves the fact that a President has little control over the GREED of the petrochemical conglomerates.
Again, a President, any President, has little control over the price of things unless he does something to disrupt the availability of goods, like putting tariffs on goods that the public can’t or won’t do without. Remember when China stopped shipping goods to us and there were shortages and prices went UP?
Wasn’t that the fault of baby formula manufacturers? And didn’t President Biden personally got involved to pressure the manufacturers to step up? And didn’t he have huge amounts of the formula imported from Europe?
Homeless people that fought for this country are made homeless for illegal aliens to live rent free?
They are made? You know if anyone, let alone a veteran, who was MADE homeless BECAUSE an illegal alien?
And the rest, aren’t you forgetting that President Biden is trying to forgive college loans and the Republican continue to block his efforts?
The middle east was stable before Biden? We’re you born in 2021?
The Middle East has been a hotbed of WAR since for EVER. Did you forget Kuwait? Irak? Libia?Etc, etc, etc?
First, the money WAS OWNED BY IRAN. The money was impounded after Iran overran the US embassy in the’70s. We didn’t “give it back”. We are letting them use it for non-military, humanitarian, uses.
China and Russia want their cut so, Biden must be the enemy of the free world. I assume you mean that if this country stops being a democracy the free world will go down the tubes. That’s interesting, especially when a certain someone tried to hold up the peaceful and legal transfer of power by encouraging an insurrection and becoming a dictator.
Liberals want a clean world. We don’t want big business to pollute our world in order for them to make an even more obscene amount of profit. That’s why the EPA was created.
Our country has plenty of oil. The oil companies want shortages so they can charge more. They learned that if they gouge the consumer too much they stop buying. The only tool the government has to combat price is to open the national oil reserves and Republicans scream bloody murder every time that happens.
The price of gas is not controlled by the President, Biden or Trump or any other.
“You are to choose your own path. Give me the decency to choose mine.” you say, but you don’t give me that respect.
The country was doing fine and improving UNTIL they cheated in the election then reseet all the regulations while making us energy dependent on hostile countries. You don't believe me then why can't people go the the grocery store to buy food or baby formula? Every single liberal city is in chaos. Nobody wants to live there. Businesses are leaving.
I don't mock liberal ideology since its an idea. BUT when you use that excuse stealing money from people and replenishing the country with illegal constituents that is called stealing at its highest level when you undermind the american people..
Yes fuels are not a perfect source for energy. But we don't have resources to replace them and keeping up with energy that is required for survival. The answer is ot driving fuel prices 3 times the cost while since you have to pay money to bring food to the stores they have to triple their price yet people's salary either does not increase or gets lowered. I do agree that oil is hurting the environment but getting to the point of starvation and homelessness while having open borders to freeloaders and moochers stealing our money while people that fought for this country are homeless.. I'm sorry..
Here's my take.. The democrats to NOT have a plan other than the evil agenda that they are shooting for. They don't care.. Blacks are now starting to get smarter which is why they have open borders. They are the virus that has destroyed out country and its national sovereignty.
All they talk about is Trump.. he is the devil. he is a sex predetor. He is NOT this. He has a strong personality and is liked by some and hated by others but aren't we all.
My definition of American is NOT the same as your definition. My definition is the strength of a country is measured even during the most difficult of circumstance. The true character of a nation. Not by destroying it.
Baby's murdered after birth. Are you fucking kidding me. that's murder and its ok?? You defend this. You defend destroying the true nation of people that have worked hard their entire lives to live by what the system has given them. To steal from them, put them in jail for opening their mouths , giving money to drug cartels, promoting child sex slavery, death to jews propaganda in ivy league colleges.. Is this what your position is?
"The country was doing fine and improving UNTIL they cheated in the election" That certainly a religious belief, because there is absolutely no evidence for it.
"But we don't have resources to replace them and keeping up with energy that is required for survival." Not at the moment, it requires a lot of work. It's necessary for the survival of humanity, so we best start working at it. Normally Americans have a great work ethic, but when it comes to something vital as this, it's a lot of "we can't", "it's impossible". With that attitude everything is impossible.
Yes there is evidence genius. I saw the evidence of sneaking in fake ballots and duplicating votes over and over again. I saw the videos so shut the fuck up.
Now you're getting to be just plain stupid. You don't agree with me??? Don't!
I know the truth, you are just plain stupid now.
Then you can believe, whatever you want to believe.
That's not truth, the truth is based on facts.
So, how do you distinguish facts from fiction?
If it's not on evidence, then you are the stupid one.
Or for saying that you distinguish facts from fiction with evidence?
What the hell are you basing the truth on then?
It's all about doing the right thing. You don't see the right thing and its not my job here to teach you or babysit you. If you don't want to believe me for any reason then don't believe me. I'm not your mother and it is not my responsibility
Glad to hear it, but still you seam to take every word he says as gospel.
What is 'the right thing' that you have seen Trump doing?
You don't have to teach me, we are discussing things.
"If you don't want to believe me for any reason then don't believe me."
You're talking about 'believing' a lot. I have no reason to believe you, as you have no reason to believe me. We are just two people who randomly found the same forum. Neither of us has any credentials, to warrant any belief in our opinions. Maybe I have slightly higher credentials than you, because at least my profile provides some information about me, while you share absolutely nothing.
I don't have any reason to believe you, because I don't believe anything, without good reason to trust the claims or the person making those claims. That's a principle that everyone should uphold, unless they like to be fooled.
Because everyone is being anonymous on this website, no one has any legitimacy for their claims to be trusted or believed. That's why our words
can only be judged on the arguments, the logic, the facts and the evidence.
If you just want to 'say stuff', no one has any reason to believe you.
In order to be a Trump supporter you need to have the ability to reason, understand why you are here and what goals your set in life and accomplishing. Faith is needed but you don't believe in God which is why you can never make it to the next level of understanding. Even if you read every book(written by someone else) go to every single corner and atom of the universe you will feel stagnant. It is alien to you.. You only believe what exists by what you see, not by how you feel.. You will never be able to compose anything because you only go by what you see. That's why blind people understand better what I'm saying because they cannot see to distract, but you can. Because of this handicap you are suffering from you will never leave this planet providing any inspiration to anyone or anything. But that's a choice.
That's where God comes in . Faith of one's heart. They vote for trump. He is alien to you. Therefore, you are scared of him. What is even more delusional with you is that you aren't even from this country so its best if you mind your own fucking business. You have nothing do with trump. So why the fuck are you so obsessed by it. This makes you disgust me because it makes you out of line.
You can understand his compassions through how he speaks if you are empathic. He is composing his heart through God but he won't say that because it could hurt him politically, morally he's doing the right thing for it is between him and God and God know he has his compassions in order. He did put the embassy in Jerusalem. Only president that did that even though since 1948 every other president broke their promise. Now Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel. A sovereign country.
As a trump supporter I knew this type of attitude before he ran for president. "What do I need to do in order to be a better person?:.... I won't find all the answers by reading a book. Nobody knows me more than I do. God knows me better because he is perfect and as long as I have faith he will guide me to the truth through inspiration and will find the answer to my question. Would you believe I even ask him for guidance even when I'm right? It's called humility. You do not have this so how can you understand? You can't. When you have humility you are able to be able to understand just what is like to be the other guy.. Problem with you is you. You just don't see it. At least not yet.
But you are right. I can't teach you. You know everything based on logic. There is nothing to teach you because you are your own worst enemy. You are not ready,,, yet. I do agree with you wholeheartedly. Frankly you are boring, 1 dimensional. Nothing more. So my question for you is why did you start writing me? if you are so sure why even discuss it? There is nothing you can tell me what I already know...To me you are boring,, honestly you have covered everything you know and there isn't anythning else to talk about.
I have counted ONE reason in you whole piece for supporting Trump;
"Now Jerusalem is the capitol of Israel". That's something I think is horrible.
Israel doesn't have the only right to Jerusalem, Palestines have a right to it too. It's just another provocation threatening peace. Maybe the Israel/Palestine conflict as it is now wouldn't have existed if they hadn't done this.
Now, 28,000 people are horribly killed (26,751 Palestinian and 1,410 Israeli).
There is no reason to believe in any gods, but if a good god exists,
they certainly do not support a selfish man like Trump.
to have your nice circle jerk with other Trumpists.
Noring meaning You repeat your concerns and questions even though I've answered. We shouldn't be fighting with words rather than teaming together for solution
I keep asking the same questions, when you don't provide any arguments for what you are saying. Do you know the statement: "what can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence"?
Trump claimed that he won the election and that democrats stole it.
Every argument that he provided for that, like dead people voting, illegals voting, ballots appearing from hiding places, hacked machines, etc. were all bogus and disproven in court. Still, your side keeps saying it.
If we cannot even agree on the problems, finding solutions will be hard.
Like him or not and I know you hate him. This is an impossible comeback. Nevrr happen in 1 in quadrillion or worse.
I have mentioned this before a couple of times but I can either see you are not reading everything or are just saying "no it isn't" when everyone with a 100 IQ or better knows. The democratic freeloading voters are refusing to acknowledge it for 2 reasons. They get their free welfare checks. The other reason is they are NOT legal to vote.
Absolute power corrupting absolutely. It is absolutely statistically impossible and if you are educated the way you claim you would know this to be true. I'm assuming Netherlands has no conservative journalism since it is run by the European Union which is completely progressive. The facts are what they are and I stand by everything I've said.
I didn't hear about ballots that were imported from china before. Are you talking about this case?:
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"The votes counted AFTER the postponement for Trump were less than 1% and over 99% for Biden"
Are you talking about the so called 'blue shift'? I've seen no report of them going up to a 99%/1% difference. I call bullshit, show me the evidence.
I tested with an IQ of 135 when I was 20. I probably lost some brain power, but I gained a lot of knowledge and thinking tools. Just me reading your claims, is not you providing evidence. Claims aren't evidence. Evidence is independently verifiable information, that supports a claim. If it's impossible for me to check your claim, with a reputable, trustworthy source, then I cannot verify your claim to be either true, false or useful, in any way. I told you before, that believing is not a thing among people who don't know each other.
"Absolute power corrupting absolutely." True, so why would you hold this as more applicable to Democrats than Republicans? I thinks that's your victim complex. Republicans hold tremendous power in your government. They get incredible amounts of money from the fossil fuel industry, the military industrial complex, big banks, the Israel lobby and Christian conservative movements. That corrupts them absolutely.
Democrats also get a lot of money, from the same groups, but less, and a bit more from high tech industry and big pharma. Those industries depend on quality education a bit more, so they favor the Democrats.
The goal of both the donors to the Republicans and the Democrats is the same; keep the wealthy and powerful wealthy and powerful. Stack everything in favor of them, give them access to all the money and help their corporations with tax-payer money, when they fuck up. Also, keep the working class powerless and needy, so they can be exploited easily.
The Democrats are just allowed to give the people some crumbs.
The Republicans give the people NOTHING, but then blame immigrants.
And they indoctrinate you to think YOU deserve nothing, while the wealthy deserves everything, because they got it themselves. Right?
The European Union doesn't 'run' the media. Neither is the European Union progressive. The European Union is a neo-liberal pro-corporation trade agreement run amok. It favors the wealthy, just like your 'conservative journalism'. We have some independent 'journalism' left, but most of it is privately owned by big media corporations, just like yours.
It favors capitalism and doesn't like criticism of capitalism and the wealthy people who own them. When part of it is progressive, than that is the corporate-approved progressive, with a bit of green-washing and woke-washing. At any point where the actual left is appearing to even come close to a bit of power, they all fall on top of it, like a ton of bricks.
The media is owned and controlled by the elites. They have billionaires on every single day. Then they tell you they support the 'working class'. Do you believe that?
We don’t have to strive. We have to protect what we have already.
What we have to strive for is to not interfere with other’s freedom because we don’t like their color, politics, gender, or national origins.
Cheated on election? After countless court cases, after so many recounts, after senior influential Republicans saying the election was fair, after Trump,even, admitted that Biden was the lawful President, you are still holding that laughable belief that there was cheating?What is it with you rabid Trump supporters. You can’t admit your Clown is a loser?
We went back to the regulations that were suppressed by your Clown. Regulations that worked for many years through both Democrat and Republican administrations. And we are not energy dependent on foreign countries.
As far as the rest of your harangue, I’ll leave it for someone that can make heads or tails out of it.
You are a MAGA Trump follower and nothing will change that. Ok.
The united states through its constitution says we must do what we can to preserve our national sovereignty. You are taking it away with open borders. If I try to tell you are wrong you caste me out as a racist, race cards.. The constitution said not to cheat in the election right. Well they did and the supreme court comitted treason declining inveestigation.. The highest platforms in this coutry have betrayed the American People
So spare me child.
I'm not attemmpting to demean you in anyway. I can understand if you tell me you didn't know.. NOW YOU DO.. Think of what you are doing and the rest of them are not only doing to this country but impoverished children are raped over and over again for money and you voted for them.. YOu understand.. Blaming Trump will not work.. They are responsible and you are keeping these people on powers standard.
Censorship of speech is denying a person the right to speak. This doesn’t need to be vocal. It can be written too. This is something the Constitution has something to say. It’s part of the Bill of Rights or, as some put it, the first 10 AMENDMENTS. So how exactly are you being censored? Don’t you mean that when people like me argue that you are wrong in your views you take it as censorship yet, when you do it to us you are TEACHING us something?
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“Spare me CHILD”? Honey, I’m 72 yrs young. Thank you for that.
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“ These people you support stubbornly kill poor babies after they are born,, this is murder..”
There isn’t a place in the world that this happens and a person is not charged with mur.der. You either know this is a lie or you just read this in a trashy place and are too gullible.
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“ Fentanol trafficked accorss the border has killed million of people and you maintain your support of this criminals. You keep them in power.. Yes you.... ”
I don’t support drug traffickers. If you are implying that liberals do, then why have traffickers brought illegal drugs into the country since……….oh, yes…..for ever. They did it through Republican and Democrat administrations. Also, you can give someone a loaded gun, but, who’s fault is it if they shoot their brains committing su.icide?
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“ There is good in everyone and my faith teaches me this. My heart is broken and I pray to God asking why? Why are they trying to destroy us? The constitution is clear. He tells me it is because we are not ready to honor this blessing yet. ”
My faith stays out of my government. It’s what the CONSTITUTION says, but, if your God can thinks Trump is his blessing, why, then, if I were you, I’d pray REALLY hard
Dr S. Mudd and biden are now synonymous.
You, the Dirty Old Men, have gotten obsessed with my gender. You’ve told me what I can and can’t do with my body. You’ve told me I’m not smart enough to be President. You’ve paid me less than a man for the same work. You’ve told me my mammaries have to be covered. You’ve apply a double standard when I use my vagina for fun, I’m a slut if I do even though one of you guys need to start that fun. And now, if I like a Dumbocrat for President, I’m told I’m wrong and should vote for a misogynist who’s been found guilty of rapЈ.
Fat chance. You are just a bunch of Dirty Old Men
It's all about our desires. Real desires. The desires that create something beautiful. Here and most importantly freedom, feeling good about each other with balance.
That's why I hate politics. We are so much better without it. Where you have politics, you have egoism. It just doesn't work. God made us for each other not just for ourselves alone and isolated. We are stronger with each other than against each other.
This is why I do not like a democratic party and most of the republican party. They are there to misinform. Diverting truth in order to possess materials that justly does not belong to them. The media is to divert truth which not only misinforms us but it is a form of stealing because that's how the make the most money by pissing people off over lies and deceptions. Now the schools are getting into it. It's not good...
"It's all about our desires. Real desires. The desires that create something beautiful. Here and most importantly freedom, feeling good about each other with balance."
"We are stronger with each other than against each other."
OMG, I loved that, and I'm not pulling your leg.
From what you were writing here, I could easily mistake you for a socialist
or at the very least a progressive.
I think you would even like most of the principle program of our socialist party, called 'The whole human'.
which is the basis of my party's program and he doesn't even realize it.
"The playing field is slanted toward the libtard/socialist side"
What are you talking about? You are living in the most corrupt crony capitalist country of the modern world. The playing field is very much slanted in favor of the wealthy. You do love that, right?
Group thinking is for idiots. Intelligent people think independently.
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"Why Are Highly Intelligent People Misunderstood?"
"They are fiercely independent— both in terms of their thinking and their way of being in the world. They are a seeker of truths and enjoy teasing out the fundamental principles that underlie phenomena."
Well if he is senile why is he strill prisident? (bill oreally_
Maybe Trump should use it, he really needs it.
I agree that Biden is in no shape to be president again.
Understand that the 25th amendment doesn't give Trump the presidency, but Kamala Harris. Do you want that?
Trump has always been unfit to serve for office; insanity.
And also getting more senile by the day. Tell me that you can watch his rallies and not feel shame. Half of the time, he's only making sounds now; peeww, swoosh, boom, uh, ah, 'mama'. I haven't seen Biden doing that yet.
this is not just the democrats that want him out either by a mischaracterization or assassination. The CIA , FBI, European Union , Iran, and the globalists want him out.
On the other side of the coins I'm seeing rebellion with truckers barricading the texas border while now boycotting sending in products into nyc knowing the trump trial was a sham,.. The truckers are important for 100% of the economy. This is civil war. Meanwhile you have a senile president still thinking he's in australia when in fact is in ohio still trying to find his way off the stage. This country is in trouble.
IF THEY DID THEIR HOMEWORK KNOWING THE DEMOCRAPS WERE GOING TO CHEAT IN THE ELECTION THIS GLOBAL SITUATION WOULD BE AVOIDED. WE WERE DOING FINE BEFORE BIDEN, NOT JUST IN THIS COUNTRY BUT THE REST OF THE WORLD PEACE WAS STARTING TO SIMMER DOWN. NOW WE ARE ON THE BRINK OF WW3 NUCLEAR WITH RUSSIA POUNDING INTO UKRAINE. SO WHAT IF UKRAINE LOSES.. THEN COMES BACK THE SOVIET UNION. THEN COMES EUROPE. yOU THINK i'M LYING? LOOK HOW THE NAZI'S SPREAD. ALL BECAUSE YOU PERFER SOCIALISM. NEVER FEAR, YOU MIGHT JUST GET IT.
Before that Trumps polls were around 52 percent and slowly rose up higher. Why is that. Oh the bastards on wellfare will say trump is the criminal while they get their stolen money and split up the loot because if they spoke the truth they would have to go to work or get deported. The democrats know they are breaking the law its just that they can get away with murder if they wanted to. Corrupt in all levels of government, legislating, judicial and executive.. This is paid for.. All paid for by the taxpayer. They steal from us, split up the loot, pay off constituents that vote for them and launder 59 Billion dollars to Ukraine. and Iran
. As long as the corporate media is propagating there is going to be wide spread corruption. Widespread. Might makes right,,, socialism.
when the justice department is corrupt, the FBI is corrupt, CNN us corrupt, BBC and United Nations are corrupt you have widespread excrement. The FBI set up Trump to put on the media he is on investigation of felony crimes. We already know Biden is guilty. You'd have to be totally dumb to not believe that. The corrupt media and justice department AND the FBI will do anything to cover up for him. At any cost.
You want the truth, that's the truth. Might makes right. Now this imbalance is this. The main constituents are not falling for this lie anymore. that's why the trucks are refusing to deliver in NYC. You have trucks blocking the Texas border and LEGAL Americans have had enough. This is civil war and its going to get very very nasty.
TRUMP 2024. Help get rid of this socialist woke crap.
That's because you have no argument against what I say.
That is bullshit and is not acceptable.
Next the dems will want to forgive mortages and car payments, and free cell phones.
as for a homeless veteran, I don't give a damn about a illegal that has done nothing for this country but veterans should not be homeless unless their lifestyle choices continue to put them that way after receiving help.
People agreed to go into debt for their education and to pay it back.
I might have a problem with that too, if my country decided to do that, because I paid off every cent of my student loans. However, I could still borrow money for my education at good rates and conditions. I also received student benefits from my government, that were later abolished. It has been reinstated now, but I support compensating the students, who were burdened with high debts in between.
That you might find that unacceptable, but that's your opinion.
There are no laws against it.
However, the government has a right to use tax-payer money in any way
the democratic majority sees fit. Biden promised to pay back student loans,
he won the election, the Democrats have the majorities that they need to do it,
so they are fulfilling their Democratic responsibility to do as they promised.
THAT'S DEMOCRACY!
If a majority of voters vote for politicians who promise to forgive mortgages and car payments, and provide free cell phones, then that's democracy too.
Just like it's democracy when politicians give massive tax-cuts to wealthy and corporations. I think that's bullshit and not acceptable, but IT IS DEMOCRACY.
At least, when the politicians promised to do that, in that way.
What did Trump promise about cutting taxes in his campaign?
How does the Department of Veterans Affairs spend its budget?
The majority of VA expenditures fund veterans’ compensation and pensions (50.5% of VA spending) and medical care services (38.9%).
A veteran’s eligibility for pensions and compensation depends on factors such as their age, service, and disability status. More than 5.9 million veterans and their families received financial support from the disability compensation program in 2022, one of the VA’s most-accessed programs.
The VA also provides veterans with free healthcare for conditions related to military service, for catastrophic disabilities, and for veterans with a disability rating of at least 50%. (The VA assigns veterans a numerical rating based on the severity of their service-connected disability; this rating determines their’ eligibility for benefits and the amount of their compensation.) The department also provides financial assistance to veterans who can’t afford to pay for healthcare. In 2022, the VA spent $104 billion on veterans’ medical care.
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The VA provided over 332 million healthcare appointments between March 2020 and May 2023, which included support for more than 870,000 veterans diagnosed with COVID-19.
The VA also gave COVID-19 vaccinations to 4.4 million veterans, administered boosters to more than 2.3 million, and sourced over one million pieces of personal protective equipment for state veteran homes and community hospitals. VA researchers conducted over 900 research projects, including studies on suicidal ideation among veterans during the pandemic.
Additionally, the VA housed 40,000 formerly homeless veterans in 2022, and helped nearly 530,000 veteran families to retain their homes or avoid foreclosure during the pandemic.
Should we shoot them? You think other countries would object?
But you have a responsibility to accept people's claims for asylum,
to let them demonstrate they are refugees, not let them rot in the desert
or drown in the river.
And not just the illegals are guilty of your damaging illegal employment. Also crack down on criminal employers, if you actually want to solve problems.
They can just walk over with a banner 'I am an illegal', while shouting that through a megaphone and being accompanied by a marching band singing 'Here is an illegal crossing the border! Oh Yeah, Oh Yeah!'.
Yes, they are accepted claiming asylum. And if they have a good reason to get it, they get it.
What they cannot do is working illegally. That's why they all go to the nearest immigration office.
As a voter, you have the responsibility to understand some things.
Any questions?
If you also show understanding of simple concepts like communism, capitalism, socialism, liberalism and conservatism, then I will be very impressed.
Copy-pasting definitions isn't understanding. As soon as you parrot Trump saying that the Democrats are socialists, communists or Marxists, you will show you have no clue.
OK,, you can say names as much as you want. Here's what it comes down to. Country is ruled by the people where education is the maximum critical thinking limit, everyone working together as one organism by reaching true growth potential. I look at a country as an organism NOT comparing the superior to the inferior. Propaganda and making people stupid creates conformity.
My name speaks for itself.Don't say more BS about Trump is racist, contested the election or responsible for 911 and january 6th..I've heard this stupid crap since 2015 when he said he's going to close the border. Why the fuck should we open the border if every other country has sovereignty?
The reason is the government that is trying to control us wants to replenish its voting constituents. They know we know they are a bunch of fucking treasonous crooks that love small children and stealing from us on the highest scale. It's all political spin and quite frankly who gives a fuck The other option is ruled by the ones with the most power to suppress those groups that pose threats to that power. The main weapon is terror and taking away free speech.
No more Trump did this or Trump is that. I don't give a fuck. Which one will it be? You want government rule or 320000000 people being told what to do or face massive consequences.. Just like spanish inquisition.. The government tells you to eat your own shit because they know more than you? Joe Biden is a senile fucking turd sucker that wasn't ever a good senator or human being for that matter. He's a fucktard. He didn't win the election,,, they just put him there.. He's got more blood on his hands than adolf hitler when he opened the border with human and drug trafficking fentanyl killing close 30 million. Only because he wants them to vote. This is suppression and I don't care how its called with any other name.. It eithere is or it isn't..
There is no difference, you either let the people rule or be ruled. The best answers are the simplest of ones.. The more bullshit is said the more smoking guns can be used. It's one or the other, period.
Which one is better? When the United States was free people snuck out of their countries to come here for what they dreamed about having freedom.. Do you ever hear of people sneaking out of USA to live in Cuba?, USSR, IRAN? Germany. Why not move there? They'd have to try and crosss the gunline sneaking into north korea.
Now lets get back to real stuff.. Lets discuss planet earth and how it works, how it relates to our star and the universe. This is a more interesting topic for me because it involves learning. Growth potential right?
"Lables, races religions clasifying this and that." is Marxism?
Actually, there is Marxism in your own comment:
"... the government that is trying to control us ... stealing from us on the highest scale ... ruled by the ones with the most power to suppress those groups that pose threats to that power."
Marxism is a philosophy about the class struggle; the rich and powerful controlling the poor powerless masses. Marx is all about combining the strength of the people to break the power of the elites, so they cannot exploit the people anymore.
"Don't say more BS about Trump is racist"
I'll say whatever I want; Free speech!
Didn't you end on that in your third paragraph?
If Trump says racist things, then I might call him and his supporters out on that. It isn't my priority, because words are just words. Actions are far more important.
As for "contested the election", that's his right. He lost his 60 court-cases though. How much more contesting should he have gotten?
As for "responsible for 911", no of course not, that's nonsense.
As for "january 6th", yes of course, it was his idea, it was part of his plan to overturn the election, that Biden won by 7 million popular votes. Trump was a sore loser and his lies were transparent. You are supporting a wannabe dictator, while you talk about 'freedom' and
'free speech'. You're very much confused.
About the border; you do have an illegal immigration problem. That's mostly caused by your illegal employment problem. If illegals were not able to work, than they would not illegally cross your borders. They would all request green cards and asylum. The wall clearly doesn't work, if your politicians listen to your farmers and meatpacking plants, who all employ those illegals. I hear even right-wingers use illegals to cheaply do work for them. Then you are sustaining your own problem. Stop employing illegals and crack down hard on businesses and farmers who employ illegals. If they cannot find Americans to do those jobs, give immigrants green cards and let them work legally. If not, tell those employers to pay more, so Americans want to do those jobs, or tell them to fuck off!
That voter replacement theory of yours is just propaganda. It would be a stupid strategy to invest so much in immigrants, so they would years or decades later get naturalized and would then vote for them. It's much easier to just give young people a chance to make them grateful. I'm sure cutting student debt is a good incentive. The Republican party could do the same. It's cheaper than paying off farmers. Just a tip.
"No more Trump did this or Trump is that. I don't give a fuck."
You're the one supporting him. Apparently for nothing, if you don't care what he did or does.
"You want government rule" No, that's you misunderstanding SOCIALISM. Your head is filled with decades of right-wing propaganda. Socialism is PEOPLE IN POWER!!! It's the next step in democracy.
The Fentanyl crisis started in 2014, under Obama. Every year under Trump, the Fentanyl crisis only worsened. Whatever Trump did, didn't help at all. Most of the Fentanyl is produced in your own country. Some of it comes through your border with Mexico, but the by far largest part comes through your docks. Even if you are able to close the borders for the last once of Fentanyl, it will just get produced more in your own country. Understand that most people got addicted to LEGAL Fentanyl. It's a registered opiate painkiller. It got prescribed like candy by your own pharmaceutical companies, to make big bucks. Doctors were giving it to patients who needed or wanted it, and were very irresponsible in helping people get off from it again. There were lawsuits over this. Don't you know? Now, everyone in healthcare is scared and taken away painkillers from people who need it. This turned lots of people to the illegal market. The illegal market doesn't have an incentive to help people clean up. Meanwhile, your healthcare SUCKS, so many people who need care cannot afford it, so they turn to painkillers. There's your Fentanyl crisis. By the way, Biden increased border security and now they are stopping more Fentanyl smugglers.
"Do you ever hear of people sneaking out of USA to live in Cuba?, USSR, IRAN?" No of course not, it sucks even worse there.
"Germany. Why not move there?"
Currently, there are 119,255 Americans living in Germany, 5,475 of which were born in Germany.
"They'd have to try and crosss the gunline sneaking into north korea"???
No person in their right mind would want to go to North Korea.
So, just because there are worse places in the world, America is perfect?
If that's your standard, forget about MAGA.
Because you only have two parties in your country, you think a socialist would be like your Democratic politicians or their voters and assume I would be pro-immigration or pro-illegals or something. I am not. I support helping real REFUGEES. As a member of the EU, I want my country to share the burden of receiving and caring for refugees. There is a lot of shit going on in the world and people fleeing their homes are humans too. Unless they can find another place to live, I would help them, if they are willing to become a productive law-abiding citizen. My country is very densely populated and we have a tough housing crisis, so we cannot keep everyone who is just looking for a job or an easier life. They also have a responsibility to work on their own country. If all people of working age leave struggling countries, those countries struggle even more.
That's solidarity too, which is the core value of my socialism.
"Lets discuss planet earth and how it works, how it relates to our star and the universe."
I'm actually very much interested in astronomy and astrophysics. I can highly recommend Dr. Becky's YouTube channel. What would you want to debate about it? I don't have any opinions on the subject, I just follow where the science goes. I accept who has the best scientific arguments, and if they are not sure yet, so am I.
The best common answers are the simple reasons. You want to fight that? It's your nickel
When you are not informed about the Fentanyl crisis, I INFORM YOU.
You discuss several subjects, I comment on your opinions on them.
In as much simplicity as possible. If it's too much for you to handle, stick to one topic at a time.
If you are here for a 'safe space', you're not getting it from me.
If you let the country run over moral ethics which is freedom of expression or you don't. Evil versus the Good. Evil is egoism VS doing what is right through will to bestow which is the desire to become altruistic.
Any other man made bullshit is just smoking gun with pools of irrelevance. If daffy duck ran for president and had the same methods of freedom as what is meant for justice I'd vote for daffy duck.. a much better choice than kamala harris. Another fucking leaching useless parasite liar,
but 'right' vs 'wrong' is easy?
OK, lets hear your ideas on 'right' vs 'wrong' then.
I think 'justice' can be simply defined as 'respectful of human dignity'.
I know, it's not perfect, but I'd like to see you do better.
I see capitalism as the implementation of egoism.
It's giving people who have the most the power to accumulate more.
And it makes people who have the least subservient to the people who have the most.
If egoism is evil, then Trump is evil, because he is pure ego
and purely selfish.
Every speech Trump holds is 75% about him. How is that not 'egoism'?
All the indictments (95 now or is that already outdated?) filed against Donald Trump are about his selfishness;
- He took classified documents and didn't want to give them back
- He defrauded the tax-payer consistently in his businesses
- He grabbed a woman by the pussy, because he thinks he's entitled to
- He used campaign money (not his own) to pay off prostitutes
- He attempted to overturn the election, because he can't admit he lost
- He sent an army of cult members to the capital to fight for HIM
Agreed, Kamala Harris is horrible. I say that, because she sucks at her job of representing her voters. So explain her 'egoism' with examples like I did. How is she more of a fucking leaching useless parasite liar, than any other politician?
Again you are going to avenues that are not true. Until they are proven without a shadow of a doubt in a court of law he is NOT guilty. All you have is the bullshit no good very fake news media which are liars. He is NOT guilty. This is how "JUDICIAL" process proceeds NOT by the mouth. Are you educaed? My first impression on your articles do not show openedmindedness. I'm not going to reason with you since you display over and over again personal bias and hatred towards this man. So far up to this point you have not shown anything, nothing that has relevance to this case other than motivations and assertions that only show subjective analysis. You want to talk, give facts. NOT what only comes down to you.
What is 'concrete reasoning' to you?
I'm using 'arguments', is that not 'concrete'?
Or do you want to go into philosophical argumentation:
Premise 1: ....
Premise 2: ....
Conclusion: ....
I assure you that's very tedious.
If I am not allowed to make any accusations of Trump,
until he's proven guilty in a court of law, then you are not allowed
to make any accusations of the Democrats cheating on the election,
until THAT'S PROVEN IN A COURT OF LAW.
Trump HAS ALREADY been found liable (it's not a criminal court)
for sexually abusing E. Jean Carroll and defaming her.
Trump has also been found liable (also not a criminal court) for fraud in the New York civil case.
Trump is losing all his appeals in the other cases, one after the other. He has no defense besides delay tactics.
YOU WANT TO TALK, YOU GIVE FACTS!!!
Do not parrot your indoctrination to me and not expect push-back.
What you see you believe. When a magician pulls a rabbit out his ass on stage you actually believe it. So just calm down.
If someone is innocent, there is one story and nothing but that story.
He is lying for several versions of his defense, but probably all.
If he is unable to speak the truth, I do not believe in his innocence.
About E. Jean Carrol:
One day he says he never even met the woman, the next day she pulled him into the dressing room, the next day he says he just kissed her. Her story is consistent, Trump is obviously lying.
About the classified documents:
Trump denied having those documents numerous times, until witnesses come out that tell about him moving boxes of documents. Security camera video comes out of people moving boxes. Trump turns over 15 boxes of documents that he wasn't supposed to have, proving that he lied. The boxes contain 197 documents with classified markings, including 69 marked confidential, 98 secret and 30 top secret. Trump has his lawyers sign documents that he doesn't have any documents any more. Still, the national archive is missing many documents. They subpoena Trump and his office requiring that they turn over all classified materials in their possession. Trump’s lawyers advise him to comply with the subpoena, but Trump told them, “I don’t want anybody looking through my boxes.” One of Trump’s lawyers returns to Mar-a-Lago to search boxes in the storage room and finds 38 additional classified documents — five documents marked confidential, 16 marked secret and 17 marked top secret. Trump has Nauta move 64 boxes from the storage room to his residence. FBI agents and a Justice Department lawyer visit Mar-a-Lago to collect the 38 classified documents from Trump’s lawyer. Video evidence shows boxes being loaded onto a plane, so Trump could move them to Bedminster. The FBI searches searches Mar-a-Lago, seizing 102 classified documents — 75 in the storage room and 27 in Trump’s office, including three found in office desks. A warrant authorizes a search of Mar-a-Lago. It reveals that federal agents are investigating potential violations of three federal laws, including the Espionage Act. Trump’s lawyers request a special master to review the documents for possible executive privilege. Trump is charged with 37 felony counts, including conspiracy to obstruct justice, corruptly concealing a document or record and willful retention of national defense information. So what is it, Trump did not have any classified documents (are you stupid?) or Trump was allowed to have them? WHY DID HE LIE ABOUT HAVING THEM THEN?
About Trump misusing funds to pay of prostitutes:
Michael Cohen was sentenced to 3 years for it. But sure, he paid off prostitutes to help Trump out of the goodness of his heart. In any case, it's a violation in both cases; if it's campaign money than it's misused for a personal matter, if it's his own money, than it's illegal influencing of an election, because didn't report it.
All the tax fraud cases:
I'm not spending my time on it, because there is evidence on the value he reported and he admitted to valuing his assets much much higher than he reported. Case closed, because he has already been found liable.
The conspiracy to turn over the election:
Trump contested the election in 60 court cases and couldn't prove any of his claims. On Jan 6th, everyone in the world saw him send his supporters to fight for him. It was the biggest terrorist action after 9/11. Meanwhile, fake electors were trying to enter, to illegitimately vote for Trump, instead of the real electors that would vote in line with the election results, for Biden. There is video evidence of those fake electors asking entrance and there are signed falsified election documents. Communication of planning this conspiracy has been found on confiscated electronics. Several of the fake electors have taken plea bargains, as several of Trump's involved lawyers. He is guilty as fuck and he has admitted to it. His only defense is now that he has presidential immunity. The DC court of appeals has already denied that. In any case, it's an admission of guilt. His corrupt judge Cannon is protecting him by delaying and delaying and delaying. People who are innocent, do not have a strategy of delaying and trying to claim immunity.
How do you explain all of this? Is this all normal for a president?
I have not seen this amount of ridiculousness from African dictators.
It's full of lies, but they are still shaping our lives.
There is a lot of morality associated with their decisions.
Moral 'correctness' doesn't exist, moral 'consistency' does.
If you are bored by politics, why do you support so strongly
one particular politician?
I will rehire him for the job in November if I am able to.
You can be bored with politics and still support 1 over the rest. You have to, you can't go vote willy nilly and support 2 people for the same office.
I see Trump as the embodiment of who broke your country;
he's a selfish, useless, criminal, deceiver, who is only wealthy
because of nepotism and a culture that worships the wealthy.
He's the last person on earth who can 'fix' what's 'broken'.
Lying is certainly a strategy that is used a lot by politicians.
They use lies, when telling the truth would stop people supporting them.
And it is only a good strategy, if people can be easily lied to.
Politics in democracy is intended to represent the people's wishes.
So why are politicians lying to the people who they rely on for votes?
Is it not, because they don't represent their voters, but themselves?
So how did that become possible? Why do voters vote for a politician who doesn't represent THEM, but themself?
Maybe it's because you only have 2 choices, that both suck balls.
In my country, we have 16 parties representing the voters and in the
last election we had a choice of 29 parties. When my people don't feel represented by the parties that are governing by combined majority,
they can easily vote for other parties. If they don't like the candidate representing their party in the general election, they can easily cast
their vote on another candidate from their party.
As long as there are people who believe lies, politicians will lie,
but it's a lot more risky for them, if they can be replaced easily.
I think it boils down to people that work or tried to work to support themselves like I did, don't like the idea of people that are able to work but won't ,getting the same thing they are or in some cases Better.
Folks mention equality, hells bells, the cars that were towed in New York that were owned by illegals were nicer vehicles that i own. that money was handed to them by our government that they bought them with.
"Lo income housing" , is really nice housing until it gets ransacked by the bums it is provided to, where as a man that works, has a mobile home and a little yard and bust his ass every Saturday during the summer mowing and cleaning keeping his home up, because it is the best he can for his income is taxed and the money wasted to house bums that don't appreciate it. I don't know why that is so hard to understand. Happens everyday in America and yet, liberals are to blind to see it,and want to fix it.
they have been part of political theory for many decades to centuries.
I don't expect you to read all the books about it, but your side is redefining terms to literally mean the exact opposite of their accepted meaning.
You are able to redefine the term 'liberal' to 'authoritarian'.
It's the exact opposite. 'Liberal' comes from 'liberty'! Don't you get it?
You're also often mixing and comparing apples to oranges, when it comes to political organizational structures and economic organizational structures. The options for economic organizations are mostly limited to a capitalist economy, a communist economy or a socialist economy.
(terms as feudalism and economic anarchism are similar to the 3 others)
Of course, there are always political organizational structures associated with economic organizational structures. Without 'politics', there can be only economic anarchism, or 'anarcho-capitalism', where the ones who have the most ### control the market.
(### = gold, goods or seashells, because without a political structure money is impossible. That's why coins always had an image of a leader or the symbol of a political entity stamped on them.)
Political organizational structures range from authoritarianism to democracy. All other terms are based on the level of centralization of power and the identification of the centralized power; the lord, the king, the emperor, the religious leader, etc..
It gets a bit confusing for 'socialism', because it is an economic and political system. The socialist economy cannot exist without the socialist political system. It is based on collective ownership of the means of production. Since wealthy people control capitalism, collective ownership will not happen without a collective power structure. Therefore the required political system for socialism is at the far end of the scale of [democracy-authoritarianism] at maximum democracy. Not at authoritarianism, which is what most of you were indoctrinated to think. Authoritarian leaders do not share ownership collectively. (I fear that I have to explain that.)
That's why I will often use 'socialism' as a political term too, because a socialist economy requires a socialist democracy. Capitalism doesn't require democracy, it does perfectly well under authoritarianism, because by default money=power and power=money.
There are of course terms for legal systems, cultural systems and social systems, but they eventually determine the two main structures that shape our societies: Economical and Political organizational structures.
where your lord-king ask you if you like stale white bread or stale brown bread as your daily ration, with your water and if you want straw or hay in your lice infested sleeping bale.
In any case, my post was intended to make you understand terms.
Do you understand socialism now? I know you don't agree with it.
Until Americans understand that people need to come together and organize to provide 'Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness',
instead of either waiting for the government or the wealthy to provide it,
you are correct that it will not work in America.
Seeing how a lot of people in my country voted for 3 populist parties, who present themselves as pro-worker and pro-farmer, but are purely pro-shareholder and pro-agro-food-corporation, I don't see socialism happening in my country soon either.
In Europe we have some public ownership here and there.
But the EU very much enforces privatization.
I have my work cut out for me.
You know ,like writing on the wall?
IF it worked, we humans would have adapted the system to our situations willingly century's ago if it was a workable system.
It would perhaps work if each and every person did their fair share. But you know the type ,you admit they exist, that won't. And they would continue to receive the rewards of what would then be the work of others. pissing them off royal, thus reducing their motivation to continue.
to become even more wealthy and powerful, doesn't indicate that it doesn't work, it proves the exact opposite.
Humans DID adapt the system. We are not working for our king anymore, we did take some of the power through democracy.
That's what turned the tide for people and why we had a massive increase in quality of life, the last century.
People didn't want to get exploited anymore, so they demanded rights, they unionized, they regulated the companies, so they paid better, respected the safety of their employees more and polluted the water and the air less. This wasn't to the liking of the wealthy, so they fought back. They bribed the politicians to say that "money equals speech",
so they could bribe your politicians even more. They bought up all the media, so they don't criticize them (much) or even spread their propaganda. People like you are their gullible minions, who help them take back all the power that people once took from them, with the same, million times proven wrong, tired argument, that you keep parroting to me.
You know that people are getting screwed. That's why the slogan 'MAGA', Make America Great AGAIN, works for you. You know that times were better for you, before. You even know how.
That's why Oliver Anthony's song was shared by all the right-wingers
"I've been selling my soul Working all day, Overtime hours For bullshit pay, So I can sit out here And waste my life away..."
But, just like you, he has been indoctrinated to blame wellfare queens for 'Working all day, Overtime hours For bullshit pay' and not the ones who make you 'Work all day, Overtime hours For bullshit pay',
because you were told to not unionize, but to trust the billionaires,
and you listened.
The writing is on the wall; stupid people will be exploited.
It's the oldest rule in the book. Religion, shamans, snake-oil salesmen, used car salesmen, conmen, politicians and billionaires, all use it.
I'm trying to fight it, but there are too many gullible people.
However, have you ever tried to vote, for stocks you own?
I would very much like to do this for the 57 Shell stocks I own.
Even while it doesn't amount to much, with 7.3 billion stocks existing,
that's still one vote to 128 million. A bit like the US elections.
But, I'm not getting my voting rights from my broker.
If something spills out, is it then 'burst my brain'?
Like if blood would start pouring from my ears?
I don't know right off hand ,maybe to say your brain is leaking ,or your brain exploded
Communism is a centralized power structure, where everyone and everything
is organized by a government filled with elites, ruling over the masses.
Socialism is power of the people, by the people, for the people.
It's the next step from DEMOCRACY, it's democracy SQUARED.
In socialism, the wealth to invest is public, controlled by democracy.
Instead of the wealthy elites controlling everything, people control everything.
Then the gains of those investments go to all people who contribute.
The wealth to invest in capitalism is in the hands of the few.
And the gains of those investments end up in the hands of the few.
Just like in communism, the elites control everything.
Can capitalism be confused with oligarchy? Yes
The US is an oligarchy. Your capitalism is run by EXXON!
Your democracy, what's left of it, is also run by EXXON!
Communism is: the government elites in power.
Communism is a gateway to totalitarianism; no power for people.
Democracy is: people voting for representatives.
Democracy is a gateway to socialism; people in power.
Capitalism is: the wealthy in power.
Capitalism is a gateway to oligarchy, oligarchs in power; no power for people.
Do you see the similarity between communism and oligarchy?
That's why Russia moved from communism to oligarchy so easily.
I'm in politics, because I like to tell my representatives what to do.
You support Republicans, because you like to be told what to think; WEAK!
Everything that they tell you favors the wealthy, the oligarchs, not you!
Because the oligarchs pay the Republicans to tell you what they tell you.
I support socialists, who get 100% of their money from the people.
That's why they listen to the people and not to the oligarchs.
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noun: commune; plural noun: communes; singular proper noun: Commune; noun: the Commune
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a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.
com·mu·nism
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noun: communism
a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
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noun: socialism
a political and economic theory of social organization which advocates that the means of production, distribution, and exchange should be owned or regulated by the community as a whole.
Public owned is a common link between communism and socialism.
what the simple definition of socialism doesn't give me is the pay for skills person, I will have to keep looking .But it would seem both like to control the wealth of people. and that stiffles innovation and hard work because there is no reward above what is already being recieved.
Are we having fun yet
Yes, you can have a democratic capitalist system, just like you can have a capitalist dictatorship. It's also possible to have democratic communism or a communist dictatorship. That's because the economy can range between egalitarian to inequitable, separate from the political structure ranging from democratized to autocratic.
Are we learning yet?
Same terms apply here in this country. We are a constitutional republic. But the democrats do not follow the constitution for what it is written, however they do attack their political opponents by being communists even though the are the communists to begin with.
The truth is this. Trump's key plan was to establish independent drilling. It strengthens the allies of the USA as well as weaken the enemies, namely China, and Iran. We opened relations with North Korea after Trump imposed threats in order to preserve America. North Korea yielded and talks resumed. The far left all ignored these accomplishments by accusing Trump of colluding with russia. . So who is the liars? You don't see it then you are stupid.
To the dictator to get rid of your enemies you either throw them under the bus or you murder them. The world had more stability and trade was fair between america and foreign policy. Level.
BUT after Biden cheated in the election, then closed our independence by being dependent with OPEC again it shifted the weight over to American's being poor once more. He raised regulations crippling our economy. Not capitalism.
This is the last time Im going to discuss this topic with you when you ask the same questions over and over so be careful for if you ask the same questions again and again I will only resubmit by saying you are stupid because you haven't read what I took out the time to service your question. No more..
The use of the term communist has completely worn out the definition.
Just like the term fascist has been used so much that it doesn't mean anything anymore. It's to the demise of language. It just makes communication harder.
So there was nothing true about the Russia claims hey? Special counsel Robert Mueller’s team indicted or got guilty pleas from 34 people and three companies during their lengthy investigation. That group is composed of six former Trump advisers, 26 Russian nationals, three Russian companies, one California man, and one London-based lawyer. Seven of these people (including five of the six former Trump advisers) have pleaded guilty.
George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, pleaded guilty in October 2017 to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.
Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team. Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018. He was sentenced to a combined seven and a half years in prison.
Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. He took a plea deal and was sentenced to 45 days in prison and 3 years of probation.
Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty in December 2017 to making false statements to the FBI.
13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October 2018.
Alex van der Zwaan, a London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.
Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case last year.
12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
Michael Cohen: Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations — related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump, as part of a separate investigation in New York (that Mueller had handed off). But in November, he made a plea deal with Mueller too, for lying to Congress about efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow.
Roger Stone: In January 2019, Mueller indicted longtime Trump adviser Roger Stone on 7 counts. He accused Stone of lying to the House Intelligence Committee about his efforts to get in touch with WikiLeaks during the campaign, and tampering with a witness who could have debunked his story. He was convicted on all counts after a November 2019 trial.
Your correct that Trump was not convicted of anything in connection to Russia, but if literally everyone around him is dealing with Russia, I don't find the accusations towards Trump unjustified. It's just one case that Trump seems to be escaping. But of course you just accuse the media of lying about him. I call that being stupid.
As long as you keep spouting the same lies and nonsense claims,
I will keep destroying them with facts. This is not a safe space.
Either destroy my arguments with better ones or wisely take your loss.
Why is is so hard for you to understand the 2 simple words? YET you have yet to mention the CENTRAL BANKS. Never.
The human race has survived on bargaining chips for 1000s of years. Gold possessions. Paper money is a note that shows how much "Gold Currency" you represent. The value changes as time goes on with them printing more paper. That's how they steal. A lie of representing how much gold is there. That's why gold prices go up with inflation is high. Starting to get the drift now? I have never seen you at one time mention "CENTRAL BANKS",, never ever. They are the ones that really do rule the world. Perhaps you are not smart as you think? They control who lives and who dies. Right now the main focus on dying is the Jew. They have been hunting them for years. They must of been surprised to see the Jews are starting to fight back and I hear Hamas is on the brink of collapse.
But the human race is the only known species that survives based on power or possessions. Evey other species has survived with no money. They must be pretty smart then. The human race over the course of time including from the industrial revolution has declined. Declined as a race. No wonder the aliens from outer space consider the planet the forbidden zone,, its from ignorance. Look in the mirror; Your ignorance is only going to lead to your destruction just like the other 95% of the human race that is going to lead to the planet's destruction (humans, animals and plants).. Ignorance.
All these terms and phrases you put up mean nothing to me. I'm a student of moral correctness and for the common good.
All you've said up to this point is to represent who has power over the other and who to blame. You can't say you are democratic then behind your back put up 500 regulations. That's what the Indians tried to explain 150 years ago and they were paid off by becoming extinct because of power.
Is this really difficult for you to get a grasp on? You are so narrow minded and egotistical making you only want to be right yet not be humble. The holdup is you are far from right. Until you can understand this grasp or goal, I've set put here then I can only understand you have no case and you have not put forth any mitigation. Nothing. You don't have a case of doing what is right. After all it is what we are discussing isn't it?
If you are going to use all these educated intelligent words, I'd suggest you start using them more approximately and when its useful in maintaining mitigating weight.
You are just saying 'Trump is not guilty of anything', but you are not supporting that opinion with any legal arguments. That makes your opinion 'moot'.
What the hell do 'the CENTRAL BANKS' have to do with Trump being 'right or wrong'?
"Paper money is a note that shows how much "Gold Currency" you represent."
The gold standard is not currently being used by any country. Britain officially ceased using the gold standard in 1931, and the United States in 1933, but it was not until 1971 that the system was totally abandoned.
I know that when inflation is high, the price of gold goes up, because gold serves as a store of value. Do you know the saying “an ounce of gold can buy a good men's suit.”? When gold was $35 back in the 1920s and 1930s, that would buy a very nice men's suit. Today, at nearly $2,000 an ounce, gold will still buy a very nice men's suit. Gold keeps pace with inflation, and gold retains its value. Why is that an argument for anything you are saying? Sure, the central banks have incredible power over people. Their power indeed has huge effects over people living and dying. They shape the economy to their will, while it should be the people who shape the economy. THAT'S WHY I AM A SOCIALIST!!!
I have no idea why you pull 'the Jew' into this discussion. Judaism is a tiny religion on earth. Israel is a very important country, for the tiny number of people living there, but that's because the US makes it important, by being their bitch.
How has the human race declined over the course of time including from the industrial revolution? Morally perhaps? Not by numbers, in any case. Since the industrial revolution, our numbers have increased from below 1 billion, to over 8 billion. True, aliens would see us destroying the world. Humanity is destroying nature, polluting the water and the air, with toxins and waste and it's changing the climate. It's good to see a Trump supporter recognizing that humanity is destroying the world. The ignorance about that fact is however very much propagated by Trump. Everything he did and says he wants to do will only speed up the destruction of nature. The planet itself will be fine, just not supporting (much) life.
Who is in power, will very much determine if humanity and life on this planet survives. You are right that moral correctness and working on the common good is a very important factor in humanity deciding to save itself. Every single person on earth has shared blame over the destruction of nature, but it's the people that we have given power, who misused that power. Some of that is democratic power, most of it isn't. The number of regulations is irrelevant, it's what they do that's important. We could have one regulation that says 'live like the Indians did' and that would save humanity from destroying itself. However, 8 billion people on this earth cannot live like the Indians did. There were an estimated 8–112 million natives living on the whole American continent, now there is 1 billion. Nature cannot sustain so many people living in the old ways.
I am all about putting forth mitigation. My worldview is that if humanity maximizes solidarity (the opposite of selfishness), then humanity wouldn't choose to destroy itself. Do you agree with that?
In that last section, I have reduced all complexity. Just one idea:
solidarity vs selfishness. Which is right, which is wrong?
What's your opinion and how can we build upon it?
what the simple definition of socialism doesn't give me is the pay for skills person, I will have to keep looking .But it would seem both like to control the wealth of people. and that stiffles innovation and hard work because there is no reward above what is already being recieved."
Your definitions don't even show the differences between capitalism and socialism. And when did capitalist or socialist countries ever have "the whole economy publicly owned and regulated"?
What does 'publicly owned' mean to you? It it 'publicly owned' when the dictator owns everything? Is it 'publicly owned' when the state owns everything?
Who is the public? Isn't that everyone?
Why do you call so many countries (preferably failed ones, like Russia, Cuba and Venezuela, where the public owns and controls nothing) communist or socialist?
Are your definitions useless then?
Then immediately after you tried defining them, you resort to fighting straw-men
of the systems. You've just defined that in communism and socialism, the whole economy is publicly owned and regulated. That's full democracy over the system, combined with shared ownership of the system. Do you agree?
So, why then would democratic control and shared ownership stifle innovation and hard work and take away reward? That makes no sense! Would everyone decide that everyone would get the exact same hourly, monthly and yearly wage????
No, of course not, that would be DUMB. Everyone would decide that the people who put their brain and effort towards the improvement of society the most,
would be rewarded the most. Why? Because that favors everyone.
But, everyone would not decide that 1% would get a million times more.
And certainly not the 1% that we have now. Why do you not understand that?
Communism and socialism means everyone works for the government because all individuals can't run a company or a country, there are representives. and they make all the money,
Little rocket man in korea has many homes and young women, but the people have nothing.
And from a quick google search, it is called,
"North Korea, officially the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, is a country in East Asia."
Everything is owned by the authoritarian party, controlled by one guy.
I really hope you don't think that's my idea of 'publicly owned'.
"Communism and socialism means everyone works for the government"
Not in the socialism that I support, but I agree that's what the definition of communism describes.
I'm not saying that individuals can't start or run a company, I'm just saying that as soon as you need the labor of other people, the owner/investor slowly looses some of the ownership of the company and the people who work there slowly gain some of the ownership of the company. Unless the original owners also do work or put in money, they will eventually loose all of their ownership.
It would be impossible to just own land, property and assets for perpetuity, without putting labor or money into it. This is important; this is my personal idea.
Many socialists believe in a very big government, where everyone contributes to it, in direct democracy. Most of the economy that is important to people is then publicly owned and controlled. People also would have direct democratic control in their workplace. They wouldn't have some CEO, appointed by the owners, telling what to do, they would have elected representatives managing the strategy and priorities that was agreed upon by direct democracy.
You could still be a plumber, or a taxi driver, or a singer, or a sex worker, and make your own money. You would just pay into the system and get protected by the system when something bad happens to you.
Yes, North Korea sucks. How is what they have there 'public ownership'?
Everything, including the public, is owned, by the Kim family.
It bothers me that after so long, you still don't understand even the basics
of the principles that people like me hold to be self-evident.
I understand that you like to 'own the libs',
but you're just owning yourself this way.
It doesn't take much to trigger us, just do it for the right reason.
In simple terms and as taught in major universities, There are 2 ways of behavior. Right and Wrong. What's so hard to understand.
You are a victim of brainwashing. It's not your fault since you've been exposed to it your whole life. That's why you are confused with me because to you I make no sense whatsoever. So whats the problem?
So far up to this point its all about you. Not the truth or the reality.
Let me give you some terms. Egoism-you crave for yourself only. The universe revolves around you alone so therefore you deserve more than what you are getting/
Altruism- You desire and feel empathy for people or living things and the needs of others come before your needs. This is the best way. You can actually compose and create beauty that stems from within and shared with others. This is what life is all about.
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I can solve problems with simplicity,The right way to solve complicated issues is to make them simple... It's right or wrong--Justice vs Injustice. You solve problems with simplicity or you can't find answers.
I know I'm right so there is no sense for attacking you personal. You attack and demean me. So who is right and who is wrong.
It's all about learning and the sooner you start the better.
BUT logic is not the only solid way of figuring out what is real. If logic and looking up definitions in the dictionary or bible is not learning. We would be just computers, but we are not. Experience and understanding is learning. Development of intuition of undertanding if someone is being true to themselves or expressing truth. This is the reality of development or one of them.. This is the best one.
You can bitch about trump all you want. but thats all you talk about while trying to be smart? The smartest people in the world are the most simple. They have wisdom and knowledge.. Good teachers.
You are drilled with lies over and over again,, you always have , you are now and it appears you always will be. You're monumental challenge is to find out the truth, the real true and nothing but the truth.. Its the only way to find peace, gain knowledge and pass it on with inspiration. Not by hating Trump who has absolutely nothing to do with you.. You don't even live here which makes me shake my head more than once,, at least twice.
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Fruity pebbles
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You’re a twisted bunch you believe it’s ok to kill unborn children but don’t you dare kill a Mexican climbing over the fence
we are pro life when it comes to conscious people who have hopes, dreams and fears.
You might have been just an accident.
I think it's very important, if people who feel they are not cut out
or not in the position, to raise kids, decide to not be parents.
Bad parents make bad kids. Don't you agree that there are enough of those already?
Maybe you will agree, when one of those 'prevented abortions' knifes you one day.
"Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen embryos created through IVF are considered children under state law, meaning that people could theoretically be sued for destroying an embryo. The Goidels began to worry whether they might be forced to store — or even use — embryos they had intended to discard."
Discard,means to throw away, that means to me that folks just want to throw away babies. How sick? May as well pardon all the germans that killed children in Germany during Hitlers rule.
I don't think it's right to kill unborn children, but, I believe a woman has a right to have a growth removed before it gets past 15 weeks and more if it's going to kill her.
No Mexican or any person from any other country has ever done anything to deserve to be shot. Detained? Yes. Sent back? Yes, but don't cackle too much. Your Repucker friends in Congress just voted down the strongest anti-immigration bill brought out in years.
When you can say otherwise, then come and talk about illegals.
When I said the word roach. I'm saying liberals in general have so much hate. You are not an insect you are a human being. All i see from every single liberal is your hate. This man is not guilty of anything.. Yet. There is no evidence to support it. Nothing. And to see you get so obsessed on hatred of this man is a sin in all aspects. You are American. He is innocent until he is proven guilty.
You say he’s not guilty of anything but, he was found guilty of ra.pe, he was found guilty of slander. The ra.pe alone is enough for me to dislike him. Then, to make matters worse, he slanders the woman he ra.ped. That makes me even angrier at him. He should be in The National Sex Offender list.
He doesn’t need to be convicted of a major crime for me and millions of Americans to dislike him. He is uncouth. He labels everyone he doesn’t like with an epithet. He is disrespectful of veterans. He’s disrespectful of disabled people. He admires dictators and quotes mass murderers. He sent the National Debt into the stratosphere. None of these things have to be “proven” ‘before he’s “guilty”. They happened as the whole world watched on live broadcasts.
I’m not obsessed with him. I just don’t want him presiding over this nation. There are many more things that he’s done that are NOT against the law, but, they make him a bad man and a worse president.
If he’s found guilty of any criminal activity, then, I hope he gets whatever is fair just like any other citizen that breaks the law and is found guilty by a jury of his peers. If he’s not, then fine, let him continue his life like anyone else. I will vote for Joe Biden or anyone that runs against Trump. It’s not a hatred thing, as you conservatives and/or Repuckers like to say. I believe he’s not fit to be my next President.
Now, Mr Trump Supporter, stop with the “sin and religious dogma” and let’s see you refute what I just posted with fu.ing FACTS as why I am wrong in what I’ve just posted above.
Trump is not guilty of anything. The 3rd time I've had to say it.i Keep bringing it up. You're up to 3 times now.. Say it about 300 more times to convince me. not that it will work but you can try.
No, not hate.
that you know how to recognize them.
I'm here only to share what I believe is true. HOWEVER. since you feel you are right and I am wrong I souldn't go beyond my responsibilities of proving right. I feel I have logically but you refuse to accept my logic. You have NOT proven I've been wrong by giving proven details that show your truth. I've given evidence to support my theory. The only thing you've given is your BBC bullshit liberal fucktard media in Europe. It's here=say. Try and win that in court. Still you refuse to see all avenues so what am I supposed to do? Nothing
Don't you even understand the level of nonsense you are emitting?
"If you want to believe trump is a sexual homophobic xenophobic loud mouthed evil man with o manners then who am I to argue with you."
If I believe that, it's because I BELIEVE MY EARS, when I hear Trump BEING 'xenophobic, loud mouthed, with o manners'.
I don't know about the 'sexual homophobic' part. He might be 'transphobic' or not, but he's definitely using 'transphobia' to make his supporters cheer, because it's the new rage in right-wing fearmongering. I don't 'believe' Trump is evil, that's an opinion I have, based on all the things I have seen him doing and saying the last decade. Before he started the whole birther conspiracy against Obama, I knew he existed, but I couldn't care less about him. Every opinion I have of the man, is inspired by the actions and words of the man himself, since then. Of course there are also lots of claims about him doing things that are evil, but I don't just accept those as being true, they have been confirmed to be true, by evidence, by Donald J. Trump HIMSELF or by the passing of time revealing every word of Trump as completely false and/or obvious lies. I am fully aware that I have provided 0 facts and 0 evidence in this piece, at this moment, but I have before and I will provide them on any subject of your choosing.
Do you understand what a discussion is? It's not sharing with people what you believe is the truth, it's trying to convince others of those believes, by using ARGUMENTS. It's also being open to accept others' arguments, if they have more convincing arguments than you have yourself. It's not a 'responsibility', it's just part of the act of discussing ideas.
You don't communicate any logic, you are just making claims.
"I've given evidence to support my theory."
No, you have not, you supported some claims with other claims.
Unless those other claims are independently verifiable with trustworthy sources, those claims are just as trivial as the claims you are attempting to substantiate.
What you do not understand is that other people do not get everything they know from the media or preachers implanting
'the truth' in their brains. People who are taught how to use the 'scientific method', know how to investigate claims and collect evidence in favor or against those claims, without any 'help' from the media. If I based my ideas and opinions on nothing but the media, I wouldn't be a socialist, because socialist media doesn't exist. All the media that exists is at maximum left of the center.
The rest is all corporate approved liberalism, neo-liberalism or conservatism. Our media praises the corporations and billionaires almost just as much as yours do. And I can just as easy throw myself in the conspiracy theory algorithm rabbit-hole as you can
in the US.
What I have shown and displayed here I've shared with people that understand the nature of critical thinking and reasoning.
I'm sorry that you have not been able to understand me. I don't think you are stupid.. But my final synopsis of you is that it is not that you do not know but trying to understand ... It is because you do not want to know. A
A discussion is to form a duet or trio in order to find mutual conclusions for good learning.. An argument is to compare 2 hypothesies where you form theories or even better,,, soundness with agreements. But the people must be openminded for the importance of good learning..
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I have yet to see any evidence whatsoeveer where you are here to learn and understand the truth compared to believing lies. Its almost as bad as you creating the lies all by yourself. As how I feel about your ignorance it is either ignorance for a political narrative or it is just plain stupidity. But when you think you can convince me you are right and I'm wrong.. It's just not going to happen. That's where your stupidity comes into play. What I say here is not to insult you. No. But I've been as honest as I can for if I say something else I'd be lying to you.
Premise 1: ....
Premise 2: ....
Conclusion: ....
As I already posted here 14 days ago, that's very tedious.
[You don't start those arguments with hypotheses, but with premises. A premise is a statement that is accepted as true (because it is supported by evidence, science or argumentation), in the debate or a common held believe between the debaters.
A hypothesis is almost the opposite, because it's a proposed explanation for a question, that doesn't have any or much evidence to support it (yet). The logical argumentation can be used to substantiate the hypothesis.]
I don't have a degree in philosophy, but I have been interested in it and reading philosophy for more than 20 years. One of my firsts posts here was about types of fallacies (faulty reasoning). To much chagrin, I have been informing people what type of fallacies they are making. I've even trained colleagues at work
in the practical application of philosophy.
I believe you are honest. That doesn't mean you are correct.
I'm also being honest, if you can believe that.
It means either of us is wrong (or both, which is also possible).
In my opinion, there is only one way to be correct and unlimited ways to be wrong.
I assure you that I'm very much capable of admitting when someone is making a true statement or is making a good argument. I can also agree to disagree. I however am not in the habit of letting people claim things as fact, when I don't agree with the claim, when it is not supported by evidence or when it is proposed as being 'common sense'.
Ideas might be common sense in a particular subgroup, but that doesn't make them true. It's just accepted as true in an echo chamber. The echo chambers in the US are massive. People are hyper partisan, because you only have two parties who control your politics. You also don't have a culture of discussing politics, because that can destroy families. That's totally different in my country. We have 16 political parties in the House of Representatives. It's not 1 party controlling politics now and next the other, we always have 2 or more coalitions working together. Of the 4 parties attempting cabinet formation, since last november, 3 have never been in a cabinet before. That forces the Dutch people to think about supporting IDEAS, instead of supporting PARTIES. It creates more in depth discussions.
In any case, I agree with most of what you're saying is good argumentation. But look at how you are accusing me of not being open to argumentation. Is there any example in there?
What argument did I not understand or misrepresent?
I was always taught we were put here to experience an infinate delight from day one. Unfortunately for most they can't find it until their lives are almost done. Some don't find it all. But if you are a true student of God you will..... Everyone does eventually Just not now. Now is when we compete with each other Not to unify and finding truth to the true nature of existence then pass it onto our children or the younger generation for future reference.. To live our lives not by achievements but how we make mistakes which is good learning. If something is in your heart like that you will never give it up because you are in love with it. You'd say that if someone tries no times or once, fails then never tries again its not their true path, for now. Losing is very painful but it shouldn't be with wisdom. Unfortunately, people use pride on the outside but in the inside they are speaking the truth.
I've always asked myself to God--- What must I do to be a pettier person every day,,Usually I get his answer and I give thanks, always, whether Im right or wrong it makes no difference it is still my responsibility and undertanding based on growing up.
Wisdom, justice and morals you cannot learn its true meaning until you experience for yourself. Courage vs. Pride.. Courage results from your desires and compassion If you fail "what must I do to be a better person, If you win, what must I do to be better.. I want to show my love to the world. Not my hate.. Pride restricts you on grown.. love and compassion against your own will forces you to grow spiritually and wisefully
As I said before I'll say again. My preemise as you put it for any country or any group for its true goal is to create Utopia using the path of Democracy. For us as mortals we will never reach utopia in the physical mortal world but the only way to reach Utopia is the path of democracy. Absolute power absolutely controlling people what to say, do for any reason other than moral integrity disrupts this pattern. Moral correctness is the only way to govern and organize giving power to the population as a whole. Power comes with responsibility.
A discussion is a set of ideas. Just like in chess every single move equals one idea. We live to create ideas that could reach goals.
Logic is easy. It's just simple mathematics. if a equals b and b equals c then a equals c. Easy and with practice of doing math problems you get better. .
Ideas or "what if" now that's creating something. A hunch then following it up.. That's an idea. It hasn't worked yet but its a vision. I don't mind discussing ideas as long as its not to hurt or demean people. Even Biden who is unfit to stand trial therefore unfit to be president I'm not here to demean. I'm not here to demean Trump. I know his heart is in the right place he just has a stupid mouth. He's beaten Haley so why open his mouth? That's foolish. He has the right idea so if your opponent is in check mate then you get up from the table and show respect.
To create beauty is what stems from the heart. What is in our constitution stems from the heart. Our teacher was Socrates on the map of reality. His teachers stemed from the teachers of Torah. Unity, piety, justice, virtue.
You violate what it says you are disrupting its sovereignty .. I said this once before I'll say it once more. A nation or country just like Netherlands is an idea. A hunch. The only way this idea will work is not controlling or power or even politics. Politics is a lie not a set of truths. Without truth then a country is not a country. A country isn't a rock or logic,, The roman empire has proven this, ottoman empire, soviet union, nazi germany and more.
A country is what it stands for. Truth Justice and especially the value of a single human being no matter their sex, race or religion or color. A country is a chorus of beings that form together one perfect union.. Even trying but failing is perfect. Sooner or later it becomes that.
I don't give a shit if it is Democrat, republican, communist, socialist, the pope, or tweedle dee and tweedle dumb.... If the desire is to join our hearts out of love of ourselves and each other then we have something. NOTHING ELSE WORKS. NOTHING.... Democracy. Inspiration, ideas, compositions, compassion . virtue, true values. Not lying and politics is just that.
Why is trump hated by democrats and republicans???? That's why.. There is no other reason, none.
I was thinking that you were just gaslighting, but I'm starting to think that you actually believe that you are answering questions. It must be a cultural thing. You are so used to politicians and managers using cheap tricks, when they are confronted with questions they don't want to answer, that you think this is how it's supposed to be.
It's a simple trick; instead of answering the question, they address the topic that it is related to, but they just say something that furthers their narrative. I've seen this from American managers in my business. They get away with it, because they only deal with other Americans. When they have to deal with Dutch people, they get eaten alive. We have a way less hierarchical culture. A low level employee can ask a brutally tough question from upper management, publicly or privately, and expect a straight and honest answer, without any risk of dismissal of other reprisal. Of course, not by using curses or swearwords, but it doesn't require almost any political correctness. If that question is not answered, they can directly say: "You didn't answer my question!".
I have seen this many times and have done so myself. I have even received compliments for it from my direct supervisor, if you can believe that. I might have even ended the career of a failing manager with my questions. That person has person led a reorganization, that has been almost completely reversed after a few years, because it was a disaster. I was not the only one speaking out against it, but I was the only one who argued what was wrong with the decision process.
I will summarize it as the decision being made on the personal intuition of a few people, rather than the methodical approach that the whole company is propagating for every single decision we make. That manager was gone to another company only a few months after the reorganization was completed. We call it a 'hit and run'.
This might be a good example to show you the differences in culture too.
"Dutch reporters tell US ambassador: 'This is the Netherlands, you have to answer questions'"
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Pete Hoekstra stayed in my country for another three years, but he learned very quickly to not say ignorant shit.
Don't take this the wrong way; I'm not in any way saying you have any duty to answer my questions. I'm just explaining the difference in cultures. Dutch people are not impressed with bullying or trickery or vagueness or a domineering attitude or fake outrage. When we hear bullshit, we call bullshit.
I also acknowledge that I have not reacted to your statements in this piece. I wanted to, but I'm out of time today. Beside, I don't think it makes you particularly happy, when I react to your statements.
Nope, no tricks. I've answered your questions. You just don't like the answers.
I could never take your statements the wrong way. I have nothing to prove to you. You can't make me take anything the wrong way because to me you are a liberal from Europe that supports socialism which means you do not support freedom.
I've answered your questions. Word by word. You don't like the answers? Don't ask the questions.
Nothing supporting your idea, whatsoever.
I can do the same; Trump IS selfish!
Trump shits on The Constitution!
Now I'm right! Right?
Do you understand what you are doing already?
"you are a liberal from Europe that supports socialism which means you do not support freedom."
The contradiction is in your own one sentence.
Liberals, support freedom, by DEFINITION!
You can't take it anymore but the cocks continue. At this point you can give a fuck who is president. Your cum and piss shoot out all over the place with your wild screams, cries stop stop... But as the cums continue you start to realize it is what you always wanted. A submitting helpless fuck slut, to be humiliated realizing you want more and its not enough. Nothing else matters. You are being trained into wanted it all the time.. Your life and desires are one thing.. To cum harder than you ever had .. being forced to cum long duration marathon. Resistance is futile. The moment you stop begging or pleading and accept your fate is the moment you realize you are true to yourself and just let it happen.. More cocks around the corner waiting. fingers probing your asshole,, other men and woman licking your nipples gentle sucks. Licking your ear lobes... Enjoy.. IV's of saline solution keeping you hydrated so when you cum and forced to piss your fluids are replenished. The torure of being pleased. Submission..
After a while with your plea's crys and threatening to no avail you begin to realize no matter what happens it all comes down to you. There is no escape. You've found home.
I was here i seen what you wrote
I also didn't like how he treated his first wife or the second one. That's why I didn't like him. Then, during the campaign, he bragged he would grab women's pussies without permission and Disrespected his opponent, Hilary.
The man was, is, and always be a bully, and what's more he's always doing shady deals.
So I don't like him. You can call it hatred, but it's not. It's knowing that as a President, he's poison for our country.
Does Trump have a reputation of killing off his rivals?
A simple question.
The clintons do
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Thus far he is the 1 running that has the better chance, a couple others in the gop would be good for the job but they have since dropped out and put their support behind Trump. I wouldn't trust Haily in a outhouse with a muzzle on.
The democrats, if they were not so fucking far left idiots I would actually feel a bit sorry for them. They are waiting until the last minute to realize their candidate is lost in the world and are not even trying to find new bl00d to run .
Trump has her beat in the primary but he doesn't it lay to rest. It could hurt him in the general election. He's still up by 2 points to Biden but because he can't keep his stupid mouth shut. If he had shut up there would be no reason for him not to be up by 25 points. Biden is a senile old man with a prolonged history of repeated felony violations. He is a known **** just like the rest of the establishment. He son a total dirtbag. Yet only trails Trump by 2 points.
Just because he has a big mouth, he is not like by some people, but I look at it as a business perspective. Our constitutional rights maintained, grocery prices reduce, fair gas prices and national sovereignty strong.
The left media thrives on his fuckups. Still his business plan is the best but he has to stop with the mouth.
and who says that border security should shoot them in the legs.
That isn't altruism, that is hate!
You do not support altruism, you are gaslighting!
Unless your altruism is projected at Trump and only Trump,
there is nothing altruistic in anything that you are saying.
You are the one attacking my person, I'm attacking your ideas.
There is a difference there, but maybe you don't understand that.
It's like this: not saying the other person is stupid, but wrong.
It's not assuming and saying that the other person is lying
(unless you have evidence of that fact), but mistaken.
Thinking that right and wrong are simple choices, is called binary thinking,
also known as dichotomous thinking. It happens when complex concepts,
ideas, and problems are overly simplified into an either/or perspective.
Be advised, dichotomous thinking can be a sign of borderline.
I've seen it ruin people's lives and not just their own.
Because your political ideas are based on a personality and not on ideas,
you cannot imagine that people who oppose that man have reasons other than personal dislikes. My principles are based on solidarity with other people and I support democracy. I vote based on my principles, for a person who represents them most and does the best job at representing them. The representatives themselves are exchangeable. As soon as someone else shows that they can
do a better job, I expect my representative to hand over the baton.
Trump stands for the exact opposite; his motivation is selfish and he hates democracy, constitutional rights and the rule of law. When he tasted power,
he tries to never let go. Not when he lost the election and not when he has been associated with sexual assault and fraud. He demands from his supporters to fight for him, but it's his job to represent them democratically. He even threatens other representatives, who are in the democratic process to win over the voters with arguments. He has corrupted that process too and demands from other candidates that the bow down to his power. If you cannot see that this is not
in your best interest, then you are too far gone. Then you are in a cult.
The entrances are there. You can come anytime. Legally. If you are trying to get through razar wire and feeding yourself to crocodiles then why not just go to the port of entry? Its because you want to suck america out of people's tax money. Why doesn't Germany accept millions of illegal aliens, give them cell phones, free rent, you end up homeless?
It's because you are a 2 bit hypocrite that doesn't know right from wrong as long as it suits your needs. YOu switch from altruism to egoism. You don't understand altruism because you are untrue
National sovereignty is our right and we will do anything to preserve our borders, no matter what it takes. You feel bad crocodeles are killing illegal immigrants? Well that's too bad
Yes, let them pass the border, then put them in detention centers and vet them. Any real refugees, fleeing for their lives you should give asylum, anyone that your farmers and meatpacking plants need to produce, you should give green cards, and any criminal or person that you don't need for jobs that Americans don't want to do, you should send back. That's a logical way of handling it. No brutality against immigrants required.
Republicans are the cause of all those illegals in your country.
Republicans have done nothing to deter employers who give jobs to illegals.
If there are no criminal employers who provide illegal employment, those illegals wouldn't have any opportunity to be in your country.
Democrats have actually initiated bills to fix that, but all of them were voted down by Republicans. Sometimes Republicans have put something like it in their bills, but then it was combined with so much brutality against immigrants that Democrats could not vote in favor.
Because I'm a socialist, you think I must be pro-immigration. I'm not. I want to help real refugees and that's it. But, that doesn't mean I would ever support letting people die in a desert at the border, if we had a desert. You don't need a wall or border security to keep out illegals. We have fully open borders. Everyone can just drive or walk in and out my country, without ever seeing any border security. You'll only see is a sign saying "Welcome to The Netherlands".
Still, we don't have any or more than a tiny few of illegal workers, because the employer would get a massive fine and because job inspection and the tax system makes it almost impossible to not get caught.
Because illegals cannot survive without working, they just go to the registration center and then they get transported to one of the shelters. It's not perfect, because they are overburdened at the moment, because of Ukraine, the earthquake in Turkey and other crisis in our continent, but they are SAFE.
The challenge is to vet them quickly and send back the people that have no reason being in my country. That is not going well, because previous right-wing governments have cut funds for immigration services. It now takes years to go through a process, that I want taking no longer than a few months.
About Germany, yes, they accept millions of immigrants. Way more per capita than the US. The Netherlands also accepts lots of immigrants, but not as much, because we are one of the most densely populated countries in the world (1,353 people per mi2 vs your 96 people per mi2). We're just struggling to find any space to build houses for our own people, let alone all the immigrants.
Don't accuse me of hypocrisy, for a straw-man of me, in your mind.
I'm not pro-immigration, I just have better solutions, that respect the humanity
of people more.
You mentioned altruism. Explain your altruism then.
You go by what you see, smell, taste, touch but NOT by how you feel.
You've only showed to me your exo-skeleton. But not what is inside. You cannot know what God is by listening to chuck schumer, vladimere putkin or even prince andrew. Supposed leaders.. The only way to find out how you feel is what stems from the heart.
Altruism is to teach and to worry about others needs before your own. A sacrifice or in my language its a will to bestow. In such a way where materialism is not allowed just alone or by itself. It by what stems from the heart.. Love , kindness, compassion. Its examples. The only way you will know this function is to find it for yourself. Showing kindness, love, compassion to others in sacrifice of yourself
Altruism is the belief in or practice of disinterested and selfless concern for the well-being of others.
"some may choose to work with vulnerable elderly people out of altruism". Altruism Has Roots in Latin and French
Altruism refers to a quality possessed by people whose focus is on something other than themselves, and its root reveals the object of those generous tendencies. Altruism derives from the French word autrui, meaning "other people." Autrui, in turn, developed from the Old French term autre, which means "other" and which itself comes from Latin alter, also meaning "other." That Latin source eventually caused a curious thing to happen. Under the influence of alter, the French autrui gave rise to the altrui- of both the French altruisme and the English altruism. The English term has been in service since at least the mid-1800s.
This is leadership. Teaching the common good. This is being leader and teacher of understanding. It is not by what people tell you altrough its an idea from someone else the only way to find true in the matter is to find out by searching from within yourself.
Trump is one of the richest people in the world. He has everything. He could have lived the rest of his life in seclusion and in peace,, What you think his goal? Its incorrect because he already has what you think he wants. He fell in love with Israel and he sacrificed his honor in protecting them even if it meant his honor..
BUT the establishment viewed him as a threat. They have the most power. They have money, the media with the propaganda to defeat him. They do not like God but if they talk about God they use his name to enhance their political correctness. To live a lie. They burn down churches, synogauges and mosques by terrorist recruiters they train from birth. Trump teaches from the heart while the establisment takes it away from you. Just look at all the examples I've shown. Sex trafficking, drug trafficking, forced poverty This is what stalin did to suppress and he murdered anyone that would be posed as a threat to him.
Stalin murdered millions with forced labor in frozen gulags or just shot them charging for the bullet.
Taking guns is the first step. Only way to have more conformity of their slaves in numbers is propaganda. How can they fight 8 billion people?
These blessed commandments are will to bestow or what are all true.
The Earth is our Mother, care for her.
Honor all your relations.
Open your heart and soul to the Great Spirit.
All life is sacred; treat all beings with respect.
Take from the Earth what is needed and nothing more.
Do what needs to be done for the good of all.
Give constant thanks to the Great Spirit for each new day.
Speak the truth; but only of good in others.
Follow the rhythms of nature; rise and retire with the sun.
Enjoy life's journey, but leave no tracks.
These are not rules. They are blessings.. If your heart is good and desires for the love of all mankind you already know this. Its blessings. Its up to you.
Instead of commenting on everything you've said (I can comment on your other comments, if you like, but I don't think you do), I'll react to something that I considered to be valuable advise:
"You go by what you see, smell, taste, touch but NOT by how you feel.
You've only showed to me your exo-skeleton. But not what is inside."
How I feel is that every person has value, and I'll tell you why.
I agree with most of what you said from "These blessed commandments..."
I don't believe in any commandments though, I believe the same things that you believe ON REASON. I don't believe in a soul or an afterlife. I believe that what we only have NOW. Between our birth and our death, is the only thing WE have. What remains is our legacy, the results of our actions. We leave that, for all the persons we are leaving behind and are coming after us.
I don't like the term 'sacred', because it implies that the value of things come from something supernatural. I don't agree with that; value comes from within us. Without someone who understands value, nothing has value.
That's why nature (the collection of life on Earth) doesn't have any value, besides survival. It just is, trying to persist. Only conscious minds can give it value. Humanity, the only factor that gives it value, is destroying nature.
And that's the most clear 'wrong' that I know.
My reason for that is that nature supports humanity, the only factor that gives value to anything that exists (on Earth). If humanity destroys nature, it destroys itself and it destroys value itself. Therefore, humanity has a responsibility, to protect all value, by protecting itself.
We have to protect nature, because that way we protect ourselves. We do not prioritize nature above ourselves, because only humanity provides value.
We have to live in harmony with nature, to protect it, to protect ourselves,
to protect value itself.
That's all that 'right' and 'wrong' is; the optimal actions to protect value itself.
That's not simple, because the relation between actions and consequences isn't simple. There are no actions that only have positive results. Everything we do has effects on the balance between humanity and nature and even value itself. When humanity corrupts value to serve selfishness, we destroy the ability of value to support itself.
No credentials, no nothing. Do you take just their word that they are in need of asylum?
The altruistic thing is then to first provide them some food, drink and a bed and then we go about investigating if the actually have the RIGHT to asylum.
And no, we don't just take their word. It can be a difficult proces, but there are records of every person living in this world.
3rd world and 4th world shit hole country's like these illegals come from, they have their babies in barns or where ever they can. and terrorist coming over from the middle east after learning Spanish, probably destroy all records of themselves as they leave so they can't be traced.
It's not like they all have their names tattooed on their foreheads.
in the world is just put in your mind as a distraction from understanding
who are really hurting our humanity.
There are a lot of shit hole countries, you are correct about that. Isn't it only logical that people don't want to stay there? They are just fleeing a horrible life, looking for a better one. They are not coming to ruin our countries too, because they were not the ones who ruined theirs. Their countries were screwed by the west exploiting them, by religious extremists wanting to control people and by the selfish wealthy people that you idolize.
What happened to their countries can happen to your country too, if blind people like you keep supporting exploitation, religious extremism and selfish wealthy people.
Yes, they prefer to have a good life, instead of blaming us for fucking it up.
The westerners have used the whole of Africa and most of South America as slave labor for centuries. We literally divided up their continents into countries with one type of production, banana's in one place, sugar cane in another, cacao in yet another, mining in yet another, to all force the local population to work in just that industry, so we could maximize their exploitation. We picked the most bloodthirsty chieftain in the area, made them their dictator, provided them with weapons and money, to rule over them with horrible brutality. That's easier than sending your own troops to enslave them and it allowed us to pretend our hands were clean.
Recently, we have stopped the most brutal slavery, but we still almost steal their resources and we put them under giant debts, for 'helping' them. Their countries export a ridiculous wealth of resources to us, but instead of money going their direction, they pay us huge sums in interest and we pretend to help them with some aid.
Besides, why is it so bad that we helped people in 3rd-4th world country's learn trades , ,growing bananas' and then they have jobs and a lively hood? Those people have purpose now instead of just running and fighting each other.Africa was not civilized like the rest of the world, until others brought it to them.
Don't fool yourself, we didn't help them learning to trade, because then we would have allowed them to have a mixed economy.
We specifically narrowed their economy to one product, in order to exploit them. That was the strategy.
And instead of saying: "China does it too!", we better use the combined strength of the western world to advance humanity,
the whole of humanity, before humanity destroys itself.
They are just desperate to leave a horrible life and looking for a better one.
They are WILLING to be an asset to America, but no one in the whole world comes to you because they love America so much. Only an American can imagine such a ridiculous concept.
I'm not naive in thinking people come to The Netherlands, because they love my country so much that they want to make it even better. They just want to live in a safe country, where they can be happy. If we were not already so much overpopulated, I would allow in everyone who was willing to be part of my community and participate. Sadly, we cannot, so we are forced to only take in the ones who most desperately need it. I understand that people like that would be risking life and limb to come to us and cut razor wire for it.
If you think people are that desperate to hurt you, you are either paranoid or you have some feeling that your country deserves it.
I'll leave that to your own methods of how you lead your own life. Its a choice. I'm not your babysitter or your mother. Your mother, did she bring you up?
Altruism is giving from the heart with no recognition required. BUT to take it from people is a crime. You want to climb over the wall and into my house? You will be eaten. The crocodiles need food and nourishment too. Nobody told you freedom is breaking into someone's house. There are many ports of entry signs showing where to report. This is not altruism, this is stealing. The devil telling people to climb over razor wire and swim the Rio Grande. But its not the devil's house. it is my house.
OH BY THE WAY. They did the same thing january 6th 2021. Why is it when antifa climbed over walls and breaking windows with trump hats on there head when police were telling people to come in to vist the capitol? To set trump supporters up.. people in jail for walking through the capitol's door and even one woman was killed with no riffle or weapon.. That's murder. People in solitary confinement for over 3 years with no trial. That's fascism..
And you support them which means you support terror which means you support evil. which means......
Like I said ,, its a choice. You're choice has been made. Learn to live without a diaper and assume responsibility for poor to good choices.
Ananas2xLekker , one more thing. I'd suggest you delete your last comment about altruism. If you keep that comment up it is going to reflect you and pardon the expression "total fucking hypocritical retard with no manners or moral compass." I didn't call you that,, but others will and think it. .
That's not a correct quote of me. You left out everything after 'why'.
"If altruism is the right way, explain why you support a man who want to dig a moat with crocodiles on the border, to kill people who are asking for your help
and who says that border security should shoot them in the legs.
That isn't altruism, that is hate!"
You don't have to act like I don't understand altruism, to fake that you have to explain it. You're correct in saying that altruism is not allowing people to steal your shit. It's however a dishonest example, because 99% of immigrants are not coming to steal your shit. They are fleeing for their lives or just willing to do a job that Americans don't want to do. People who put razor wire at the bank of the Rio Grande, so people die, are the devil. I don't believe in any gods, but I understand right and wrong better than you, because I know that Jesus wouldn't like the people who do that. If you are a Christian, you might consider your soul a bit more. You are kidding yourself, if you think Jesus would like Trump.
The old testament god wouldn't care, he's a mass murdering psychopath,
but you said "Jesus,,, great man and teacher", so I assume you do care about his judgement of you.
Oh, sure, now it's Antifa who attacked the capital and the next argument it's Trump supporters who were protesting the election results. It's either one or the other, because those groups would never work together and a massive fight among the crowd would have broken out. You are either gaslighting, like Trump, or you have a brain disease, to actually believe that bullshit.
Trump lied his supporters into attacking the capital. The Capitol assault resulted in one of the worst days of injuries for law enforcement in the United States since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. About 140 officers (73 from the Capitol Police and 65 from the Metropolitan Police Department in Washington) were injured.
The officers were responsible for the protection of your politicians.
I am sorry that they killed people, but they were much more respectful of the lives of these deranged Trump supporters than they have ever been of random people on the streets. Your police kills lots of people for much less risk to their own lives. Trump sent them to fight for them. You have seen that for yourself.
Which people involved in jan 6th are in solitary confinement for over 3 years with no trial? Provide evidence or you are lying. If it was true, it wouldn't be fascism, but definitely autoritarisme. That I would support that, is another straw-man. I support equal justice for everyone. No one is allowed to brutalize police officers or break into a public building with the intent of murdering government officials. If it was Antifa, then why do you think they are allowed to do that?
I never delete any of my comments. If I make a mistake, I own up to it.
My comment about altruism isn't one of them. Everyone can check that.
You just want me to delete it, so people cannot see you being dishonest.
You HAVE called me a hypocrite. In fact a "a 2 bit hypocrite that doesn't know right from wrong as long as it suits your needs". You're doing it by fighting straw-men, not by showing how my opinions are in contradiction with each other. Or in contradiction with accepted morality, for that matter.
Quite frankly I am not going to explain my position further. I'm sorry but your replies are a waste of energy and every single word that comes out of your mouth is carbon dioxide. Green house effect. That's it. Nothing more.
What did I say that makes you think otherwise?
You are the one now saying that my words are useless to you.
This is called 'projection'.
I'm trying to tell you how your positions are conflicting.
You have not explained anything that reduces the conflicts.
However, I agree that the subject of altruism is becoming stale.
I hope I've provided something more interesting in the other post.
I do want to comment on this though: "Trump is one of the richest people in the world. He has everything. He could have lived the rest of his life in seclusion and in peace,, What you think his goal? Its incorrect because he already has what you think he wants."
You don't know what Trump wanted or what I think he wanted. He wanted people to admire him. All his money didn't give him that, because he wasn't welcomed into the 'wealthy club'. The other wealthy thought of him as vulgar. They didn't even want to fund his campaigns upfront, so he said he was funding himself. When he gave them big tax-cuts, they liked him a bit more, but still only as a 'useful tool'. But, he found people who do admire him, in people like you. In every speech you see him struggling trying to say stuff
that makes you cheer for him. It's not that hard, because you lot can be told incredibly contradicting ideas, without you noticing. He sometimes makes mistakes, when he wants you to acknowledge that he started the vaccine program, but that's his own fault for also spreading ignorance about them. Also, he says the quiet part out loud. He literally says; "I didn't think that you like me saying 'drain the swamp', but you seem to like it, so I'll keep saying it". Then he fills his administration with the worst swamp monsters he can find. Still, you lot praise anything he does, swallows everything he says and do anything he tells you to do. IT'S ALL HE EVER WANTED!
You didn't think I was going to say that, right? Because he didn't have THAT.
Do you actually care about carbon dioxide being a green house gas,
or is it just funny to you? It would be interesting if you cared,
being a Trump supporter. That would be another contradiction.
70% of all forest area on earth.
Humanity has cut down 70% of the forest for places to live and for places to grow food. If you want more trees, then you should want less people.
54% of my country consists of farmland:
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Agricultural land in United States was 44.36% in 2021.
80% of global agricultural land is used for livestock, yet it produces
less than 20% of the world's supply of calories.
Eat less meat and there is more space for trees.
pasture does NOT have to be wide open space.and other plants like grass and shrubs also help with carbon dioxide on a lesser scale. i have alot of azaleas here to bloom and make the place look nice to
I'm not saying all of it was cut down the last 20 years or something.
But the size of humanity has exploded.
Around 1820 there were 1 billion people on this Earth.
Around 1920 there were 2 billion people on this Earth.
Around 1960 there were 3 billion people on this Earth.
Around 1980 there were 4.5 billion people on this Earth.
Around 2000 there were 6 billion people on this Earth.
Around today there are 8.1 billion people on this Earth.
The population of Earth has doubled in your lifetime.
Do you understand that there are consequences to that?
If ALL the CO2 is converted to oxygen, we still have 21% oxygen.
It would be fucking cold on Earth, but you'd breath fine.
Let me tell you, I wouldn't live anywhere else in the world. I know, there's always room for improvement, but, you, MAGA people, have no cause to complain so loudly. You should be proud of what you have and not what you already do.
Just saying.
oh and while i am here,
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It would seem that folks with more knowledge than myself are trying to say socialism doesn't' work.
What is your reasoning to say that?
Is your argument just "regulations are socialism and socialism is bad"?
Regulations are a way of organizing society.
Cutting regulations is allowing chaos and egoism.
That has never improved anything at any time.
Honestly, the choices that look like will be available to us in November 2024 don't make me happy, but, I will vote for the lesser of two evils.
You sound like a smart person. Why would you want Trump to be President again?
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House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy saying that Putin pays Donald Trump, followed by House Speaker Paul Ryan, urging everyone to keep McCarthy's comment off the record.
Unfortunately, the Washington Post heard all about it.
When WP confronted Ryan and McCarthy, they said: "It never happened!".
When WP said they had a transcript, they said it was a false transcript.
When WP said they had a audio recording, they said it was a joke.
Sure, a fun joke, that McCarthy seriously urged to keep off the record.
But, when they lie the first time, and the second time, they are lying the third time.
"This is an off the record."
"No leaks, alright?"
"This is how we know we're a real family here."
House speaker Paul D. Ryan
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Unanimous! Not much room for the libs to complain!
Like, what the hell did they read in the 14th Amendment, to decide this?
Congress is not the government body who should decide this. According to the 14th Amendment, "Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability." There is not a letter saying that Congress enforces the 14th Amendment.
It supposed to be automatic; just by the act of engaging in insurrection, he disqualified himself.
In any case, the Colorado Supreme Court did not say that Trump is not guilty
of engaging in insurrection.
In the US, last I heard you are innocent until proven guilty .And I don't think he is guilty. He ask people to fight with their voice, their votes. that is normal campaign speech.
You call yourselves liberals since you go into the notion of liberty. But you want socialism. That means you don't support liberty. Blame the white suppremicists, whites jews, catholics. Divert the attention to them so when people aren't looking you committ murder, ****, child pornography, murdering troubled teens, murdering children, even murdering people that speak the truth.
The comparrison is this. You call a big log of shit a turd. YOu can call it excrement, fertilizer or waste. Same meaning. To conservatives they understand that notion. Libertarians lie, they chose this name to misrepresent their real intentions. They think people fall for this but it just makes them look more stupid every single time.
Look at the UN. all they do is try to achieve the same goals that the romans tried but failed, the nazi's tried but falled. What the ottoman empire tried but failed. The United Nations are here to create the new world order by eliminating Jews. Who is the only group never to establish domination of the world through slavery, terrorism or propaganda. Grandted there are good and bad people in the world that shows no quarter. Hitler was a jew that hated jews. Chuck Schumer is a jew that hates jews, so is bernie sanders, hates Israel. Yet the conservative jews claim to be God's children and they are. As a matter of fact all groups are God's children it's the one's that have the most power are the one's that want to create global socialism by killing every single jew through genocide and propaganda. Israel is onto this, they have had enough. Once the are done with hamas they will start dismantling hezoballah. Once that is accomplished it is off to Iran. Israel can distroy Iran with one easy flick of the switch.
DON"T INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE. Being a worship of libertarian means you support liberty. If you do not know what liberty means you are not a libertarian. You are a stupid no good mother fuckering piece of shit liar.
You want to talk to me like adult to adult. Get your fucking definitions right then we can talk on the level. Otherwise stop wasting my time and shut the fuck up.
Question, all of these dog shit members have paid memberships then why are they fake accounts.
The truckers have and currently are making their point now. I'm sensing we are going to be approaching the home stretch now. Do or die.
Who brought you up, your mother? Figures.
You've just agreed with me. You're angry because you know I'm telling the truth. You support Nazi's you support child pornography, child sex slavery, drugs that murder children, you are against God. You are against justice. Everything that is deemed right you prefer death, famine, poverty, despair, mothers giving up their children to pimps because they can't afford to take care of their children. What part of the shit-stained part of the barrel you were scraped off from.?? Must be from the bottom.
Did he leave? Was he kicked out?
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I had always felt like since the state of dopeheads,"colorado" took Trump off the ballot that there was something elementarily wrong with a state deciding who could run for a federal office. And it appears I was not the only 1 that felt that way. Let the PEOPLE decide who their leader is in a honest election.
A good reason to vote TRUMP in 2024
"If Trump wins the 2024 election, we can guarantee the electric car mandate will be canceled. Trump has stated so in his many election campaign events. He said there WILL be options for Americans to choose the vehicle they want."
This next quote explains a real problem. Who ever thinks it is a good thing, is part of what is wrong with America.
"There is not a single U.S. car brands that is turning a profit on electric cars. Brands produce EVs to avoid billions of dollars in fines. Their only option is to take millions of dollars in losses."
Forced by our government to take Finacial loss's by making products the majority do not WANT.
When you work and earn your money, you should be able to buy what you WANT with it, NOT what the government wants you to.
From an independent right down the middle. He's right
Anyone want to guess who Trump may pick for a vice?
I assume it will be 1 of the better performers that ran early on for the prez slot.
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An absolute non-topic of course, for which there is no evidence, but witnesses.
I wouldn't post it, wasn't it that the other side would surely post something like this.
Joe Biden did this.
Those of you that don't know the first earliest documented history of civilization was marked with this event. Abraham was born in a little town approximately 6000 years ago in the town called UR, Iraq. The city was abandoned around 550BC but there are several structures that still remain. Abraham died in Canaan which is now known as the West Bank. Why am I saying this? Check this out.
With that said name not one country or domain since that time where socialism has been successful before floundering in total collapse only after millions and millions died from homeless, starvation. famine and poverty.
Why even mention it? Logically speaking and asking. How fucking stupid are you people? Socialism is a failed ideology.
Why does the earth still use it? It is called abuse of power while brainwashing children into conformance.
Seriously and I don't mean any offense what so ever so don't take this personally. But my question to the committee is that How fucking stupid are you people?..
Right Kebmo? how 'bout you Ananas2xLekker/ show me how manage to be stupid some more.. lol2 accounts NO pics that are real....lol
To be honest and I mean with expression from the heart. I won't lose this debate. The truth is my weapon. I'd suggest you re-evaluate your position and reasoning common reference points. I say this from the heart. From one human being to another. There is good in everyone and everyone needs compassion for each other. Listen to yourselves and be true to each other. Thanks
poor Nikki
He's financed by the democrats to defame Trump. She's getting her ass handed to her but at the same time she is defaming him. Neat traitorous lying trick eh?
Oh yeah, just a little math correction he got her in a 3-2 win not a 3-1 win but kicked her ass nonetheless.
And where is Melania? Doesn’t she support her husband? As you well know Nicky’s husband is off protecting your country but Melania is nowhere to be seen.
No trucks want to go there,, a massive boycott will either bankrupt them or full scale civil war. So far it is civil war because they are letting illegal immigrants break the law by stealing then letting them go. All american based business is moving out and there is proof for this. They are destroying themselves only because they do not like donald trump. Please attack him more.
He is NOT guilty of anything. I've said this over and over again. That judge is a crook abusing his power. So you could say legally because its crookery but not judicially and the trucks are making a point. No gas trucks, no medicine, no food. Oh company drivers will have to deliver or lose their job but the owner operators that refuse to go in will affect 15% of delivery. What does that do to the price? In that case why even live there? I knew this was going to happen and I owned 2 houses in NYS. that' why I own a house in Florida and nothing in NY.
Its interesting to note that right after the verdict he destroyed Nikki Haley in her own home state by 2 to 1.
Nobody trusts the judicial systems in NY, CO and Atlanta. the more damage they do to him will be 10 fold with Boston tea parties of 21st century. Am I getting through to you or are you just as Dumb as I thought. I feel you are not as dumb as I thought. You are more stupid than I thought because it is not getting through to you. You're just as dumb as the rest of your fakes.
No I didn't hear because I don't watch fake news networks. It's unremarkable because ever single thing they've alledged has been wrong. I don't hear what they have to say.
Dear retard, Melonia doesn't have to show her face to prove to the rest of the world as stupid as you to show she loves and supports and loves her husband. On the other hand Nikki Haley has cheated on her husband over 3 known times.
For mr donkey
You display such intelligence
Soon you are going to make the average imbecile just as smart as einstein.
I thoroughly give you permission to sell all your belongings and endorse her. Your bound to win.
Boston tea party on steroids
Let's all stand and salute our president of the united states. Donald J. Trump. Donald celebrates winning S.C. as provided.
And before you leave salute that fucking flag.
He won by over 35 points. sheesh.
YOu know that has to make hailey mad.
can't even win her own state. I knew she had issues and I didn't like for them but I think this shows the state doesn't like her either.
Gutfeild's take on Trump's situation.
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“ I have no need to kiss the ring. I have no fear of Trump’s retribution.
I’m not looking for anything from him. My own political future is of zero concern.”
B U L L. S H I T
-Talking head referring to Putin
What's even more stupid as you are is that you don't even live in this country. Get a life moron.
Do you think I’m a moron because I have an opinion that differs from yours? Now that is moronic!
He owes $88 million to E Jean Carole and now he owes $355 million here yet your support is unwavering. Now instead of wasting your time with futile arguments just write him a check that will leave you bankrupt. He’s going to need all the money he can get from people like yourself.
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Ouch! Including nearly $100M in interest the new improved total is $453.5M for running a con instead of a business. He also has to have people to oversee his businesses meaning that he can’t make decisions without running them by his new babysitters. That is going to hurt.
You are from Canada? Are all Canadians as stupid as you?
Do you know what is stupid? Hang around a site called show your dick without posting a single photo. That’s stupid. Just for your information people with little tiny penises get tons of attention here so don’t be shy, show your dick or go pick another site to share your “wisdom”.
I see you agree with me. Just a fucking moron pretending to be important on social media.
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I still to this day do not see how a crime was committed, no victims ,no loss of funds to anyone. I would assume there is a appeals process?
If Biden was put on trial, a fair trial he be burned at the stake
But Trump was set up by a crooked system and I hope that a appeals process can be started.
those people are not after justice, they are out to destroy a man they disagree with.
I would not trust a new york court system to try Adolf Hitler for war crimes .Much less a supposed fraud claim.
There was no money lost, there was no money unpaid, no victims, no issues. Just a weaponization of the justice system.
That’s what you sound like in his room of adults, a four-year-old boy who didn’t get his way. Why don’t you trying saying something nearly intelligent instead of wasting space? Go ahead state a fact and back it up with some proof, surprise us.
Ananas2xLekker and I have been in forum here for 2 weeks peacefully going over our different points of view. Why are you so fucking dumb? It's right in front of you but you're too fucking dumb to read. You're telling me to give factual proof. Even if I did you'd be too fucking dumb for reading comprehension. To say I have no pictures which is NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS like a fucking smelly fat turd llike you with fake pictures and a fucking nansy pelosi attitude I have no respect for.. You're a fucking moron so what the hell am I supposed to do about it?
“A smelly fat fucking turd like you”? I was not aware that you had even seen my photos, since only members with posted photos can visit my page, let alone smelled them.
Because you have called me dumb, moron and an idiot eight times leads me to believe that you are a dumb moronic idiot; here’s proof:
“All judges are paid off by Nancy Pelosi, a Democrat.”
Every single American judge is paid off by one person? Boy that is one stupid, dumb and moronic sentence.
I'm not your mother or baby sitter. Your levels of stupidity is NOT my responsibility.
I don't have to prove anything to you. I can't help it that you're stupid.
The level of your stupidity is so bad that since you are from Canada I'm just trying to ask is everyone is as stupid as you. I don't think so.
Dear fucktard, there was no trial or questioning on the Trump case. Nothing. It went right to the punishment phase before the evidence presented. What makes you so fucking dumb is you believe it.. The hearing was illegal. YOu're just too fucking dumb to see it.
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I just can't understand why liberals are so stubborn and to look at both sides of the coin. You are Canadian brought up with a democracy. You live in a free country. A free country demands critical reasoning. I was born in an area where its solid democrat. When Bush was president, I hated his guts. Sending our jobs overseas after 911 and I worked in the WTC and lost my job then. Then that bastard sent all our jobs to India and Pakistan. He was Republican. I hated republicans. When Donald Trump was running for president, I thought it was a joke. But when listening to him talk and his plan to get our country back to the path of democracy by strengthening our border. Build the wall and Drill baby drill.. I was in shock. I never watched someone microscopically dissect what needs to be done. A republican that said for love of country. Believe in your country, educate yourselves, believe in yourself under God..Go to school and encourage your children to have strong focus. Strong critical reasoning. We deserve more than they are giving us for its the government that works for the american people NOT the government telling us to do. I've been alive when Eisenhouer was president and for the first time in my life I voted.. 92 million people agreed with me.
Democrats AND Republicans hated him. all I saw was the media trashing him lying over and over again,, CIA hates him, FBI hates him and falsified documents to put him up on cheating in the election working with Russia. BUT if he is being accused of cheating then why attack him with no evidence? The 2 hoax impeachments of lies over and over again. YET he is still ahead of Biden in the polls. Why is that? Because they believe him and LOVE him. He is our hero, our teacher, our champion. because for the fist time in my life I've seen a leader that actually tells the truth. Him with a couple others in congress and the senate that follow him. love our country and our people.
In this case, there was new yorks story, Trumps story ,and the facts being the edge of the coin. The facts are no one was killed or hurt, no money lost, no harm done to anyone or any business. This should not have even been a case.
It comparable to the lady that spilled hot coffee from McDonalds suing and getting millions. a Freveles case.
Your socialist ideology is not in conformance with Canadian law and principles. If you are canadadian as you say you are then with your attitudes combined why haven't you picked up and moved to Iran, Iraq or North Korea yet?..
I notice that when they have no argument in their favor, they attack the messenger, TS2 especially. I believe TS2 is a fake member created to wind up the liberals on site. He sounds like an old fart who tries to sound learned and educated. He falls far short of his objective.
My advice to you, Kebmo, is to save your breath (or typing finger). These two are too close minded to try to get some sense in them. If you insist in using your 🖕, then use the middle one. 🤣🤣🤣😈
Oh remember I told you that people here love tiny cocks like yours and that they get a lot of attention? Well there’s a new contest now and it was made just for you so now you can post a picture of your teeny weenie weenie and maybe win a contest. Here’s a link for you. Good luck!
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Putin
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So Cat , I guess you have something in common with old putin, you like biden.
End sarcasm.
crazy, on 1 hand people call putin the enemy,and then,agree with him on who should be OUR leader.
even putin knows biden is weak and predictable.
There is something fishy with ukraine,they recently "found" some corruption with miss used funds for ammo of some sort and made it out to be uncommon. where as it has been discussed in the media for months.
Trump is more in line with Putin’s plans than Biden is. Trump will do what’s best for Trump and Biden will do what’s best for Americans.
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HI there,
I think that neither Trump nor Biden are electable in 2024.
I seriously doubt that Pence would even consider being Trump's VP again.
Biden can't dump Harris because she helped to get him in the Oval Office.
People L
So, I tend to think people will choose an Independent candidate this time.
If elections were on July 4th, then there probably wouldn't be political parties.
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Well, find us a black conservative woman and we will listen to what she has to say and maybe she would make it.
There is a such thing.
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I have often wondered if there ever was a time that you could decide on the better man for President.
As for a woman being president, if American insist on being a part of the global picture, you need a leader that the MAJORITY of other world leaders will respect .Would a woman president be respected or feared by our enemy's or ridiculed?
Many countries and religions don't support women being in positions of power, and alot of them are our enemys.
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-Stephen Colbert
Donald Trump does not have presidential immunity and can be prosecuted on charges of plotting to overturn the 2020 election, a US court has ruled.
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but don't they understand that court rulings count for democratic presidents too?
They fearmonger about Democrats taking complete power, but they would party
when the court gives Biden full potential to do so. They must actually trust Biden
very much, to not take advantage of it, even in the slightest.
If they really think Biden is behind the 92 indictments, why would he wait for such
a tedious process, if he can just execute Trump.
According to the New York Times Donald Trump spent
$50 million (of donor money) on lawyers in 2023. Please
send him more. He will need it.
Now that’s a whole lot of fucking on a sex site
Um, some numbers to ponder.
Remember that the word of the day is NIMROD,, A very foolish and stupid person pretending to know everything thinking nobody knows.. But they do. Still believes he shows he is smart. Nimrod is a biblical figure mentioned in the Book of Genesis and Books of Chronicles. The son of Cush and therefore a great-grandson of Noah, Nimrod was described as a king in the land of Shinar. The Bible states that he was "a mighty hunter before the Lord ... began to be mighty in the in the earth". Later extra-biblical traditions identified Nimrod as the ruler who commissioned the construction of the Tower of Babel, which led to his reputation as a king who was rebellious against God. SO..with that said a NIMROD is anti-God, chooses his own path and hates the constitution of USA... Are you a NIMROD or someone that wants love for each other and believes in doing the right thing? Altruism yes?
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If they were searching your house, for classified documents, do you think they would
leave a closet locked? They would break it open, and you should be grateful if they
even ask you for the key. Two-tiered justice system; he was treated with kid gloves.
Anyone else would have been behind bars for 450 years already.
They found most of the missing classified documents in his possession,
but some of the most strictly classified documents are still missing.
Were those ones in that locked closet or did he sell them to Saudi Arabia?