Started by #177722 at 16,Dec,11 19:51
 | Why is this possible? - i don't agree with the voting system anyway, but the fact that members are able to anonymously vote down pictures is a joke. I'm guessing it is (excuse my language) the sad f u c k e r s who have nothing to contribute to the site (except internet pictures) so feel the need to vote down other genuine members pictures. I'm not talking about one negative vote on a pic, which is fair enough, i'm talking about 5 votes in a row clearly from the same member. So my point being, if you have the urge to vote negatively, have the balls to make yourself known! |
Similar topics: 1.No more anonymous voting 2.MULTIPLE VOTING NEGATIVE 3.Voting against pictures 4.Voting on pics 5.Have you ever anonymously chatted with someone you know?
Problem is that you won't do this. You only say that you like this very genuine member, but you do not put your money where your mouth is. And I'm not talking literally about money, it's just a saying. You are too greedy to donate your points to that member you claim you love. And you are even too lazy to make fake account (which you claim is extremely simple) to vote positively for the pics of the member. But those who vote against do put their money or time and efforts into it. Somehow I think you all get what you deserve.
After I disabled negative voting for blacklisted members it was obvious no one would vote openly against, cause it means immediate blacklisting. I can enable voting for banned members again and make votes non-anonymous. I could also disable points burning on voting at all and make negative gifts more cheap in the same time, but it's kinda against the initial reason, which is very simple:
if people do not like the pics, they vote against more than vote for -> 0 points = you can't post more. I.e. you post what people like = you always have points and can post more, you post what people do not like = you don't have points and can't post. Simple formula to make the suggestion follow the demand.
Yes, you can say that genuine members get deleted while fakes prosper. Personally I think those who vote for fakes and make positive comments on them are imbeciles. But if they pay money for that - I'm OK with it. I'm not here to make a site of your or my dreams, I'm here to sell what people buy.
I now get why you can't just disable anonymous voting. I can't think of a good solution either that would both allow members to protect themselves against harassment and at the same time protect members that leave genuine negative votes from getting blacklisted. Personally I would prefer the second option you listed, where I at least get to see who left the negative votes.
In the long run I think the site will be more successful if you try to promote positive behaviour and make it harder for the fakes and troublemakers to run wild on the site, even if they do bring in money at the moment.
It's easy to "run wild" here for fakes simply because you permit them do this.
Do not expect me to know all pics in the net or to verify hundreds of accounts and thousands of pics submitted here every day. Or monitor every message of 200 members logged in simultaneously. Even if I do not **** and eat and spend every moment doing this - I won't be able to do it.
The problem with reporting fakes today is that they will just come back the next day with a new profile and pics of a different girl.
What kind of proof would be enough btw? Oftentimes their pics can be found on some obscure amateur site after doing an image search.
Amateur sites can't be proof, because it's hard to tell was the pic stolen from there or was it stolen by them from here or it's the same person using several sites.
However, it's often enough to point out that pics on the profile are from different sources.
And yes, there is a difference between paid and non-paid members. It's a difference in a degree of my responsibility. That's why paid members can get by with what non-paid don't. I won't explain this here. Who's interested may study DMCA act, it's on the net.
I only know it was Everready because he said so, there was no indication in the "Points Log" showing who the offender was.
If I hadn't been able to convert "Gifts" into points, I would have none and not been able to leave comments.
So in my view,,,,,,voting down photos just because some creep doesn't like what you've said,,,,and because they are a "PAID" member,,,,,,sucks big time.
Typical situation: fake member post pics from the net, other members come to his page and leave messages that those pics are fake. The member deletes their messages and blacklist them all. Then people complain that I protect fakes. The only way is to vote that member down. Well, not actually "the only", because a correct way is to report such a member to me, but members usually do not want to do this or can't present a correct proof. So voting negative is their way.
And if I disable blacklist (it did not exist initially on this site) and take points penalty for deleted comments off - one or two idiots with butthurt are able to post hundreds of abusive comments on everyone's pages. And you won't like it, trust me.
I know the current system is not perfect, but it's better than everything else that was before. If I find a way to improve it - I will improve it.
I don't know if disabling anonymous votes would solve the problem, but at least I could ban a user that keeps coming back to leave chunks of negative votes.
Do admin have any intention of changing things?