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Started by talk5s at 08,Mar,20 08:06  other posts of talk5s
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Apologies if you have to copy and paste. It will be worth it. Incredible how it took under a minute to show what real leadership is and compare it to the current el prezidente. Really makes one wonder how his followers cannot see him for who he really is. An uncaring, self obsessed Dictator to be.

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By admin at 08,Mar,20 16:24 other posts of admin 
I grew up in a totalitarian country and I've seen a bunch of them after that. And from what I can see, it's democrats who's building new Orwellian anti-utopia in US. Not that republicans are much better, but at the moment they are more harmless. I too wonder, how people can't see this. I guess my experience gives different perspective. I grew up in a society with double-think where right and beautiful words were said all the time, but people thought and acted differently, so I never believe what politicians say, only what they do. And from what I can see, democrats mostly do not mean what they say, they only say it to manipulate their voters and their political opponents. Trump is not ideal, but he's neither self-obsessed nor a dictator. May be you use those words because you think they are curse words without meaning and you can apply them to people you do not like. But by definition of those words they are not applicable to Trump. Hillary, on the other hand was and is uncaring and self-obsessed. She's a psychopath (not an insult, just clinical definition) unable to feel empathy and lying and pretending without hesitation to get what she wants. Considering that Trump likes to troll his opponents I can understand why you could get this impression that he's self-obsessed. But from my experience, self-obsessed people can't be self-ironic. Trump can and does it all the time. Obama could not. I wonder how you can't see that people joke about Trump all the time and those jokes are not harmless at all, yet no one gets punished. During Obama comics who joked about him could get into real problems. And I can tell you - this is typical under dictatorships and totalitarian states, you can't joke about leaders in them without getting your life destroyed. So, only judging from this Obama was more of a self-obsessed dictator than Trump is. I could go on, but I know you do not want logic analysis, you just believe Trump is bad and any alternative is good. Corrupt Biden, crazy Bernie... duh... To be honest, I would not care what you believe, I'll let you elect those people and suffer the consequences, I would gladly laugh my ass off watching it, same as I laugh about Venezuelans, but regrettably US is a leading world power and if it succumbs to socialism all world will suffer and I will suffer too. Therefore I occasionally write posts like this one. Though I think it's mostly in vain anyway.
By Scorps at 08,Mar,20 17:25 other posts of Scorps 
Well said!

No, he's not "perfect", but he's real, successful, American, loves his country, has a backbone, strong, fearless, and gets things done. For those reasons, he's perfect for this moment in time. ESPECIALLY after the 8 disastrous, race baiting and dividing years of Obama. The author of this post is a known fossil lib-tard who says things with nothing substantive to back up what he says. It's... Listen to me cause I'm right and you're wrong, Donald Trump - Bad!

Roughly knowing all that you would have to give up, and the lifestyle changes that would have to be made in order to be the PotUS, in itself speaks volumes. I mean, who the fuck would REALLY want that job? Knowing that you will NEVER please EVERYONE. The relentless bashing he has endured also speaks volumes about his strength. He can do NO right that the lunatics will give him credit for. NOTHING! Whichever way he decides to go, on any given matter, is automatically WRONG. Knowing that's how they are, who's the REAL LUNATICS? Any goofy fuck that subscribes to such a notion that he has done nothing good for our country. Should seriously consider seeking psychiatric help, cause you are clearly suffering from a sadly but true condition known as... TDS or Trump Derangement Syndrome, like the author of this post and a few other very very dim witted individuals around here. Seek help fuckers!

Oh, and they only wanna SUDDENLY run Joe Biden as part of the MASTER plan. The plan to eliminate the possibility of an open communist winning election AND the best part of all... Everyone knows that Bidens cheese is slipping off his cracker. Picture it! Biden chooses Hillary as his VP, Biden gets declared incompetent to hold the position, Hillary becomes President. BAM! The cunt back doors her way in. Now that may not be exactly what they have up their sleeve, but I assure you, it's pretty close as to what they have planned. Which would explain her/the Clintons resurgence in the news, screaming, LOOK AT ME! These people think they are nickle slick and have the media in their hip pockets to do their bidding. In some regards, these are also some very dangerous times for this country.

I do in fact fear what the future holds beyond Donald Trump.
By mr_blue at 08,Mar,20 17:57 other posts of mr_blue 
Trump derangement syndrome or as it was called before that Obama derangement syndrome

By phart at 08,Mar,20 18:00 other posts of phart 
Decalared incompetent,are you kidding? IF Biden were DUMB enough to choose Hillary for a running mate, She would use the updated version of Lyndon Johnsons book on how to become President. A couple scape goats with rifles and 1 bad cop and She is PREZ without having to spend a damn dime or anything.Bill gets to run around the white house fucking everything and everyone from the flower pots on up.

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By mr_blue at 08,Mar,20 18:06 other posts of mr_blue 
Oh the conspiracy,I bet Soros is behind it all, just like the Koch brothers do everything for the republicans
By phart at 08,Mar,20 18:14 other posts of phart 
Oh attitude of so many people that would rather our country just continue to be a broken mess without hope or prosperity.

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Watch the video of Bernie from 1981 on this page.
By mr_blue at 08,Mar,20 18:41 other posts of mr_blue 
For a lot of people the USA is a broken mess without hope or prosperity.... that's the thing with playing partisan politics all the time, it's a blame game...

Bernie is a democratic socialist, he's always been Bernie,he actually believes in what he says.... whether you agree with him or not, that's your right... don't like him,you can vote for the other person up against him...

How would you pay for new schools/infrastructure etc without high taxes ?
Cuz American national debt has risen under trump just like most other presidents,that means in the future that money has to be taken from another part of federal money to pay for it..

The debt keeps rising,so America is getting fucked by people not paying taxes, getting easy credit, faking bankruptcy,off shoring profits,etc..... same the world over now, it's the normal behaviour...

Ok to say the country is more wealthy,but if that money is only going to the top,most Americans are getting fucked aren't they?
By phart at 08,Mar,20 20:17 other posts of phart 
Strange,people are getting work now.Some of that money going to the top comes back down.That is how people get jobs and make their own part of it.
Without the wealthys investments into industry,science and so forth,there are no jobs for the "most Americans".Take away the motivation to invest and make a profit and the people really are fucked.
As for easy credit for people,that is something that needs addressing,hell I fell into the trap myself with a damn credit card.There should be some way to address that. Title loans are 1 thing that should be abolished nation wide.

By talk5s at 14,Mar,20 01:51 other posts of talk5s 
Hello Scorps-"No, he's not "perfect", but he's real, successful, American, loves his country, has a backbone, strong, fearless, and gets things done. For those reasons, he's perfect for this moment in time. ESPECIALLY after the 8 disastrous, race baiting and dividing years of Obama. The author of this post is a known fossil lib-tard who says things with nothing substantive to back up what he says. It's... Listen to me cause I'm right and you're wrong, Donald Trump - Bad!"
As the 'author' of this post...all I did was show the Donald being his assinine self in Video...let me take your quote and dissect it. He is American. Cannot deny that. Loves his country. Well, that's a pile of crap! He ONLY loves himself and has proven that time and again. If you only took the time to listen and WATCH him, that would be clear...Has a backbone? Like when he didn't go to war when drafted? Used his Daddy and bone spurs to stay home? Oh, I forgot. Successful? 4 bankruptcies. Was it 5? Imagine how MANY people lost their jobs when his Casinos went under. Cheated your fellow Americans out of Millions with Trump University..."Judge finalizes $25 million Trump University settlement for students of 'sham university'"...That seems to cover everything which for some reason none of you 'trumpites' EVER SEEM TO ACCEPT... Pretty much everything you said about him being strong, successful (as a cheat, sure)...FEARLESS?? Really? Have you NOT listened to that TERRIFIED and very ORANGE guy on Wednesday the 11th of March? That 'man' was scared SHITLESS and not doing a very good job of hiding it. Did you not hear his ODD breathing?? Sounded like some 'ole' steam locomotive trying to go up a hill. Same thing today when he did something that should have been done WEEKS ago! (National Emergency) For christ's sake! This shit has been going on in China since at least December!! Anyone with brains and leadership ability would have made SURE there were enough re-agents to make Coronavirus kits WORK...Do you know HOW he made the stock Market do what it's done since he was in office? He UNDID all the protections that were put in place after the Financial Crash of 2009. Every one of them that were designed to PROTECT us from what happened in 2009 from EVER happening again. Remember? How the Banks wiped out the entire World's Economy and then we tax payers had to PAY to save them? Did you get ANY of the BILLIONS that saved AIG? JPM? BofA? Wells Fargo? I could go on and on how all of us were cheated out of OUR hard earned monies just to save THEM, the crooks, little different than Bernie Madoff. None of those bankers went to jail, tho.Most retired with Million dollar payouts...trump just wiped all out protections away. The Stock Market/Banks/Hedge Funds etc. now completely unbridled just started doing what they did 10 year ago. AGAIN. Oh, they had the FED to do the heavy lifting by pumping 'liquidity' into the Market. 45 BILLION a month for quite a while. They are still doing that. Did you watch the Market today? What do you think made it rise around a thousand points in LESS than a couple hours today?? Stock Market is NOT the economy. That's DEAD! How can it be anything else when the Airlines are not flying and furloughing pilots, etc.? Disney Land is closed and yet their stock went UP while the dingaling in chief was BREATHING in such an ODD way as he said his usual. 'Everything is fine' Nothing like what happened in China, Italy S. Korea, Japan can happen to US! We 'be' SPECIAL!.Say goodbye to your 401. Your house's value. Bank accounts...jeez,it's too much to list. Makes me so tired thinking of the HELL to come. From just one DUMB asshole in less than 4 years..."In 2018, the Trump administration fired the government’s entire pandemic response chain of command, including the White House management infrastructure."...Do YOU think that was a WISE decision??? Considering where we are today?...Shits going to hit the fan and you will find your strong and fearless leader is going to let you down...let all of us Americans down when we need someone that truly has a backbone, loves America and is fearless. Someone like FDR, JFK, Truman, Reagan. People that had all that in spades.
BTW. I truly hope I am wrong. Because my view of what's happening and what's to come...is truly horrible. Too horrible to even put into words.
By phart at 14,Mar,20 10:38 other posts of phart 
Well,show us who would do a better job then since you seem to know exactly what we need right?
The 2 old geezers running on the democrat side would spend 3 years undoing all the things Trump has fixed,so nothing would get done,then he would spend the 4th year trying to get back another 4 years. so he would be what,86 when he finally went out of office?
Do you REALLY want Sanders or Biden running America at a time like this? That is frightening to anyone who works and pays taxes.

By talk5s at 08,Mar,20 22:37 other posts of talk5s 
Dear Admin-If you're talking to me, I NEVER said ANYTHING about the democrats. Or Hillary. (God, what a bitch) Just look at the true leaders of FDR and JFK, both of whom saved this country and the World. FDR WWII. JFK Cuban Missile Crisis. Compare them to this imbecile that now will have to lead us during this Coronavirus pandemic. Along with his trusty sidekick, Pence. Jesus H. Methinks we are doomed...Democracy is a rarity throughout history. America is on the precipice of losing that freedom. Because of Herr Dingaling...I liked what you wrote and truly respect your experiences of Dictators. So it truly amazes me that you cannot recognize trumplehead is one in the making...If this video is not able to convince anyone viewing it that he is just a total JERK without a brain in his head...well, as they say in Cartoon land; 'It's all over Folks!'
By phart at 10,Mar,20 21:02 other posts of phart 
Trump can only stay in office another 4 years after november.So no chance of becoming a dictator.Alot of us were told to be afraid Obama was working to try to be a dictator.Well he is gone from the white house but making speachs all over the world to idiots that pay to hear him blather.
Things are not perfect here in the US but alot of shit would have to happen to have a dictator.

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By ANGEL1227 at 10,Mar,20 19:29 other posts of ANGEL1227 
Perhaps, your life in a totalitarian country has colored your expectations. Those expectations don’t have to be right. Politics is not the main way we American protect our way of life. Between the people and the military there’s no chance of making a turn and staying on it. As far as the current politics I ask you what I’ve asked others like Phart. Why are previous political members so nessesary to excuse the current president. As far as criticism is concerned previous administrations have been dragged through the mud and many times by Mr Trump. We are the dominant superpower in the world but that was achieved by BLOOD SWEAT AND TEARS. We had and still have the balls to stand up to two bit dictators. We go and do what the locals lack in cojones and we paid for it with thousands of our boys laying in foreign cemeteries. It’s also the reason why we can try out different ways to change our lifestyle.

By phart at 08,Mar,20 17:55 other posts of phart 
You can take any ones words out of context and make it sound the way you want it to.
That is all that was.
You would have to come up with a hell of a lot more than that to change peoples minds.
We don't have any other choices for 2020 election. Trump is the only hope..The dems are not giving us anything to choose from but a corrupt Biden and a socialist bernie
By talk5s at 08,Mar,20 22:54 other posts of talk5s 
Hi Phart-Hope you've been fine these last months...Jeez, if trump is our savior, all hope is lost. Read this answer asked by Martha MacCallum of Fox news; At the town hall, Trump said Republicans have done a "great" job in "managing" the ACA.
MacCallum then asked: "Because the issue of pre-existing conditions, you say you're going to protect them. But your administration is also fighting Obamacare in the courts. So how do you promise you're going to protect them based on that?"
Here's what the president said, per a White House transcript.
TRUMP: "That's what I said. We want to terminate Obamacare because it's bad. Look, we're running it really well, but we know it's defective. It's very defective. We got rid of the worst part. And that was a very important thing. You know getting rid of the individual mandate was a very important thing.
But we want to get something — if we can get the House, you'll have the best healthcare and health insurance anywhere on the planet. But we have to get the House back.
Now, that means we have to hold the Senate. We have to get the House. We have to, obviously, keep the White House. But, what we're doing is managing it really well.
Now, it's a case; it's called Texas vs. — you understand — it's Texas who is suing. They want to terminate it. But everybody there is also saying, and everybody — we have our great senator from Pennsylvania. Thank you very much, Pat, for being here. (Applause.) And Pat Toomey.
And — but, very important — and our — by the way, our great congressmen, I have to say, they were warriors. Right? Real warriors, in terms of the fake impeachment. I will tell you that. (Applause.)
But, so Texas is trying — and it's Texas and many states — they're trying to terminate, but they want to put something that's much better. They're terminating it to put much better. And they've all pledged that preexisting conditions, 100 percent taken care of.

REALLY?? Is THAT an answer of someone that is going to 'save' us??? Or that can EVEN speak clearly? I am betting you (as well as me) have some pre-existing health conditions that we would really like to be covered if it comes to that. Which it will, of course...What do you think of his statement that he will cut Social Security if he's re-elected? SS btw...IS Socialism! Did you not know that??
Personally, politics and politicians ARE the WHOLE problem.
Lights are going to finally go on in trumple bumps followers REAL soon. As we watch how he bungles what's coming.
I wish I was wrong.
By phart at 09,Mar,20 14:50 other posts of phart 
After spending the better part of the day dealing with the local county trying to over tax me on a old car, I am to tired to think much.BUt I will say this much. Trump was not the perfect solution in 2016,he was just the only choice we had.2020 is no better.
If you think health care is bad now,let Bernie get ahold of it. it might be free when he is done but it would be chop off your foot to fix a toenail fungus. Cured,cheap.

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