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RIP George Bush Sr.

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Started by kebmo at 01,Dec,18 01:02  other posts of kebmo
You were a man of strong morals. You made good and bad choices but you made them in what you thought was the best interest of your country and that's the right thing to do.
You proved that it's possible to be a humble man in the biggest arena.

Thanks for your time.

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By badpenny72 at 21,May,19 04:29 other posts of badpenny72 
Damn,shows how behind the times I am over here in the UK because I had no idea he had died. He obviously wasn't my leader, despite the president often beong referred to as the leader of the free world but he seemed liked a proper old school politician and conducted himself with a sense of decorum and gravitas.

Of coursee, old school is not popular it seems today in fact it appears to be labelled as fringing on racist, bigotted, sexist blah, blah, blah.I don't know about the US but over here things like freedom of speech, the rights of the individual, civil liberties are not only genuinely under threat but considered dangerous. How can limiting the ability to speak yourbmimd be dangerous, limiting that fundamental right is dicing with chaos if you ask me.

As for Mr GH Bush I find myself agreeing that despite hos flaws and we all have them he was generally a man who did his best for his country and you can't ask more than that.

I don't if anyone will read this being so old a topic but while the subject is here I'd love to ask the opinion of some intelligent, politically aware americans about my own theory surrounding the Iraq war, don't worry it's not a cheap attack on the US by another puffed up brit. In fact, it almost hurts to say but my political beliefs are a lot closer to ones found in the US than over here these days although they're based in solid British values, another thing that's sneered at today I'm afraid.

Everyone and their dog always chimes in with the Iraq war being about oil but I have always considered that as perhaps a bonus that came with the war rather than the thrust behind it. The War on Terror, Axis of Evil stuff was bullshit in the context of Iraq, I mean Osama probably hated Saddam more than he hated the president, they were not remotely unlikely bedfellows but enemies.

So why the urgent need to strike at Iraq and topple Saddam. He was no worse that Mugabe or Gadaffi?

My personal opinion is that it is general agreed that if G H Bush failed it was in not supporting the Kurds or going aall the way to Bagdad. I can see exactly why he didn't apart from anything else that was going beyond the remit of what the UN allowed besides he was a WW2 fighter ace, a liberator not a conquerer.

Then you have GW who apparently lived utterly under the shadow of his highly successful, accomplished father. Captain of all the teams at University where as the story goes junior was head of the cheerleaders - is that actually true?? Senior was a fighter pilot in the Pacific Theatre flying Hellcats if I remember right whereas junior apparently dodged the Vietnam draft somehow.

And so it goes on, wherever GH has succeeded through his intelligence and tenacity, I'm sure the Bush family funds helped but it certain seems he got where he did on his own merit mostly again the opposite seems to be true for junior.

It always seemed to me from the word go even before they failed to get the UN onside that dubyah was bent on fixing that one mistake his father appeared to have made abd topple Saddam and perhaps finally get out from under pops shadow.

It might seem a frivolous reason for war but to me it makes far more sense than anything else I've heard. If you've lived your whole life not measuring up to such a towerimg figure who is also your father, I mean how deep does that run, fucking deep I would imagine.

Anyway, is there any merit in this theory or is it so wide of the mark it's hitting the target next door. 😉😉😉

One last thing,I'm not going to make any major comments about Trump except to say he makes GW Bush appear like a true statesman in contrast but hey looks can be deceiving.

Over here we have a guy who's even more old school left wing socialist than Red Ken or Tony Benn but at least Benn for all his sociialist beliefs was an old school man of principle and backbone. This Corbyn guy is slippier than and more bent than Red Ken Livingston but all the little folks just turning voting age see him as some new age bloody messiah.

Can I move over your side of the Atlantic?

By phart at 01,Dec,18 19:25 other posts of phart 
Not many folks left like him.

By #562152 at 01,Dec,18 07:16
No matter what your politics are you have to agree, Mr Bush Sr always put his country and family first. A true hero and a decent one. RIP
By leopoldij at 01,Dec,18 15:13 other posts of leopoldij 
He lived a long life. 94!
And he became ill right after he lost his wife....

By wycowboy at 01,Dec,18 11:26 other posts of wycowboy 
You were a great man and a great POTUS, a member of the Greatest Generation and a great husband and father. If I can only be half of what you were I will die happy. RIP 41

By pifad at 01,Dec,18 01:24 other posts of pifad 
I agree 100%. A good and decent man. RIP 41

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