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Started by mr_blue at 21,Apr,15 11:21  other posts of mr_blue
What's poppin' where you are ? Care to share ?

Current events, rants and raves...general chit chat...politics..
Have a discussion

Anything bugging you,maybe the members could help you with your problem ?

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By Scorps at 27,Sep,19 08:34 other posts of Scorps 
As you've probably noticed... The Democrats are making the United States look ridiculous. The party has been hijacked by a bunch of screwballs and they are an embarrassment, to say the least. They have NO desire to address any issues for the American people. The ONLY thing they want to focus on, is undermining a Duly Elected President. And of course, the ONLY viewpoint the average citizen across the world receives, is from news sources that are equally as corrupt as the Democrats of this nation. HATE or DISLIKE is NOT a justifiable reason to attempt to undermine a President that was chosen by the people. The actions of the Democratic party are far more disgraceful than anything President Donald J. Trump has EVER done! It's beyond the point of ridiculous and frankly quite nauseating.
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For the Democratic party is COMPLETELY relevant as just about the ENTIRE party is chocked full of Jackasses!
By mr_blue at 27,Sep,19 08:57 other posts of mr_blue 
If you dislike someone because of their views,that is justified.... president or not
The media circus of America is just that, it's opinion mostly,dressed up as rules so it's all click bait and echo chambers...
And tbh, there's idiots running every country at the minute..

And why would the democrats work with trump after all the things he has said about them ?
Trump burns his bridges with people quickly,he demands loyalty,yet gives none himself....

And what did the republicans do to Obama? obstruction/undermining him at every it goes both ways.... democrats are doing what was done to them....
By phart at 27,Sep,19 09:47 other posts of phart 
Well,In and of it's self that is a problem.IF the Dems wanted this type thing to STOP, perhaps they should have took the high road and not continued to follow the bad example?
NOthing really all that good has been done in 15 or 20 years really.Because everyone claims to be working against either other> Take the high road and lead by example,instead of being like sheep and keep up following the same old example.
Revenge is a 2 edged sword, the dems fuck over Trump,anyone they put in office to replace him will be reamed everyway possiable.
By mr_blue at 27,Sep,19 11:19 other posts of mr_blue 
Why would the democrats work with trump after he has belittled so many? it's ok to disagree,but insults get you nowhere...
Why should the democrats set the example? they're all libtards according to some!!!
Each side bends the rules to fit their agenda...which is basically,who can get the money from the government...

Status quo continues.....

Why have the democrats decided to launch an impeachment inquiry into trump now ?
They have enough from the Mueller report to do that..
It's election cycle that dictates American politics...
So the Dems think they can win by hammering trump now cuz they have no real plans,they haven't even sorted out who is running for them yet!!!!
Like the republicans who bitched about Obamacare for 8 years, yet couldn't find a suitable replacement,they had 8years to have a workable plan to kill it off,replace it,repeal it,call it whatever... that's how trump came to be,he was an opportunistic hustler who actually got elected...

And here's some more dumb shit that bounces around in my head..
Say trump is convicted of any crimes!!!and he goes to jail,does he still get his secret service protection like ex presidents get?cuz that's some funny shit if he does...
By phart at 27,Sep,19 20:50 other posts of phart 
Well to go further,why would the repubs work with the Dems in 2021? and etc. It has to stop somewhere if any progress is to be made.
I seriously doubt Trump would go to jail. Clinton went thru impeachment and no real damage was done to him in the long term.Even his pet Witch,I mean wife,got to run for prez.
By mr_blue at 27,Sep,19 21:39 other posts of mr_blue 
Status quo you are correct that someone has to be the better person and say,"enough is enough" but it's not likely to happen..
Fuck Clinton' no time for them..Bill can stick that saxophone up Hillary and get a better tune out of a Clinton cunt...

By mr_blue at 21,Aug,19 15:50 other posts of mr_blue 
Usernames -What usernames do you think are unacceptable ?
By bella! at 21,Aug,19 23:09 other posts of bella! 
The usernames that are unacceptable are the usernames that are already in use. Duh!
By mr_blue at 21,Aug,19 23:30 other posts of mr_blue 
what usernames do you think are inappropriate then ?
By bella! at 22,Aug,19 00:18 other posts of bella! 
Oh, so you want some examples, eh?

Uh, mr_blue, er, bella!, um and admin is taken, too. There probably a few more but it's 12:18 in Michigan and I should be asleep.
By mr_blue at 22,Aug,19 04:12 other posts of mr_blue 
maybe I should try again...

What usernames should not be permitted.....?

You know like spear chucker or little girl
Amazes me the moral compass people claim to have,but can plead ignorance cuz it's not been posted in a particular thread...
By bella! at 22,Aug,19 07:25 other posts of bella! 
I did an independent search using the words spear, chucker, little, girl. Yes, the words little, spear and girl have been used however it would appear that spear_chucker and little_girl are currently not being used and are available. What I did notice is that the name Abo-spearChucker has heen taken so that is a name that cannot be used at this time.

Now if you are asking for usernames that will call immediate attention to you and cause your profile to be deleted would probably involve any variation of the name of a SYC diamond member coupled with anything that could be perceived as being insulting.
By mr_blue at 22,Aug,19 09:08 other posts of mr_blue 
Little girl in a username just brings problems..... guess others don't see it as an issue...same a spear chucker...
By bella! at 22,Aug,19 09:50 other posts of bella! 
Let's talk about the use of "little girl" in username. Little girl can mean a number of things; small in stature, tight pussy, small boobs, not just a little or young girl in age. I recall that there were members that chose a username like "Im14yo", that is blatant.

Years ago, using spearchucker in the Detroit area mighta got you popped.

You have been here long enough to remember that certain words would be censored in the Forum yet the same words could be used in usernames. Why? It surely does not make sense to me but some of the crap that some members get away with makes my head spin. Hey, I have spanked for things that are pale in comparison to what others do and that are "overlooked".

Out of curiosity, have you noticed the influx of "niggas" that have created profiles just this month? There is Booboonigga , ThatDLnigga and Blkfishnetniggah . Hey, those names should make the bells and whistles in Mr. admin's control booth go off.
By mr_blue at 22,Aug,19 09:59 other posts of mr_blue 
Yeah,little girl can mean many things,but a username on a sex site kind brings the pervs to the fore don't you think ?or is that just me.....
Doesn't seem to bother anyone else...

As for "nigga" that is a racial slur.... but as some people are into raceplay/cuckold/big black cock fantasy,I would let that go,but it's a context thing.....

I'm not offended by the usernames themselves,just that those types of names tend to provoke certain people....

By bella! at 22,Aug,19 11:49 other posts of bella! 
I understand where you are coming from (+1) and I tend to agree. But think about it, there have been a number of SYC members that have voiced their concern regarding "certain people" believing that just because a woman posts a nude of herself that he/certain people can refer to her in a demeaning manner.

May I ask you what grinds you about "spear chucker" that doesn't grind you about "nigga"? Just curious.

By mr_blue at 15,Jul,19 10:54 other posts of mr_blue 
Congrats to England(&Wales) on winning the cricket world cup

By mr_blue at 04,Jul,19 08:38 other posts of mr_blue 
Happy independence Day

By mr_blue at 02,Jul,19 11:58 other posts of mr_blue 
England v USA in the women's world cup.....
20:00 UK time

By mr_blue at 27,Jun,19 21:21 other posts of mr_blue 
Well done to the England ladies soccerball whoop whoop..
By bella! at 27,Jun,19 23:34 other posts of bella! 
Soccer or football?
By mr_blue at 28,Jun,19 18:02 other posts of mr_blue 
Both depends where you are in the world!!
USA beat the French...
So it's an England v USA semi-final coming up..

By mr_blue at 15,Jun,19 16:14 other posts of mr_blue 
Well done the raptors

By mr_blue at 14,Jun,19 07:30 other posts of mr_blue 
Cricket world cup going on rain
Women's soccer ball world cup going on....

Anyone watching ?

By phart at 12,Feb,19 22:06 other posts of phart 
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By mr_blue at 12,Feb,19 15:20 other posts of mr_blue 
R.I.P Gordon Banks.
By Andthisisme at 12,Feb,19 16:02 other posts of Andthisisme 
One of the true footballing (soccer) greats and a perfect gentleman.
His 'impossible' save from Pele in the 1970 World Cup will be long remembered.

By phart at 02,Feb,19 09:14 other posts of phart 
We have discussed this situation before I am sure.
If there is s shred of truth to what is said here,it is sad.
Appears the media is prohibited from exsposing all this over there.Could that be?
You read,and you research it and decide.At best it is a thought provoking message.



> Just in case you don't think President Trump is doing the right thing! Read this!


> Pass this on to everyone you know!


> "Yesterday, at the hospital, we had a meeting about how the situation here and at the other Munich hospitals are unsustainable.


> Clinics cannot handle the number of migrant medical emergencies, so they are starting to send everything to the main hospitals.

> Many Muslims are refusing treatment by female staff, and we women are now refusing to go among those migrants!

> Relations between the staff and migrants are going from bad to worse.

> Since last weekend, migrants going to the hospitals must be

> accompanied by police with K-9 units.

> Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we in Europe do not know how to treat.

> If they receive a prescription to the pharmacy, they suddenly learn they have to pay cash. This leads to unbelievable outbursts,especially when it is about drugs for the children. They abandon the children with pharmacy staff with the words: So, cure them here yourselves!

> So the police are not just guarding the clinics and hospitals, but also the large pharmacies.

> We ask openly where are all those who welcomed the migrants in front of TV cameras with signs at train stations? Yes, for now, the border has been closed, but a million of them are already here and we will definitely not be able to get rid of them.

> Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable.

> Only a small minimum of them have any education. What is more, their women usually do not work at all. I estimate that one in ten is pregnant. Hundreds of thousands of them have brought along infants and little kids under six, many emaciated and very needy. If this continues and Germany re-opens its borders, I am going home to the Czech Republic. Nobody can keep me here in this situation, not even for double the salary back home. I came to Germany to work, not to Africa or the Middle East!

> Even the professor who heads our department told us how sad it makes him to see the cleaning woman, who has cleaned every day for years for 800 euros and then meets crowds of young men in the hallways who just wait with their hands outstretched, wanting everything for free, and when they don't get it they throw a fit.

> I really don't need this! But I am afraid that if I return home, at

> some point it will be the same in the Czech Republic. If the Germans, with their systems, cannot handle this, then, guaranteed, back home will be total chaos.....

> You - who have not come in contact with these people have absolutely no idea what kind of badly behaved desperados these people are, and how Muslims act superior to our staff, regarding their religious accommodation.

> For now, the local hospital staff have not come down with the disease these people brought here, but with so many hundreds of patients everyday of this is just a question of time. In a hospital near the Rhine, migrants attacked the staff with knives after they had handed over an 8-month-old on the brink of death, who they'd dragged across half of Europe for three months. The child died two days later, despite having received top care at one of the best pediatric clinics in Germany. The pediatric physician had to undergo surgery and the two nurses are recovering in the ICU. Nobody has been punished.

> The local press is forbidden to write about it, so we can only inform you through email. What would have happened to a German if he had stabbed the doctor and nurses with a knife? Or if he had flung his own syphilis-infected urine into a nurses face and so threatened her with infection? At a minimum he would have gone straight to jail and later to court. With these people so far, nothing has happened.

> And so I ask: Where are all those greeters and receivers from the train stations? Sitting pretty at home, enjoying their uncomplicated, safe lives. If it were up to me, I would round up all those greeters and bring them here first to our hospitals emergency ward as attendants! Then in to one of the buildings housing the migrants, so they can really look after them there themselves, without armed police and police dogs, who, sadly today, are in every hospital here in Bavaria."

By Andthisisme at 02,Feb,19 10:50 other posts of Andthisisme 
Facebook until recently used Snopes as one of it's fact checkers. here is a link to Snopes that deals with the claims in these messages. Please read this if you are tempted to believe all of the above claims.

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There are a lot of disturbing claims there BUT there is no evidence that confirms that what is being said is true. I am not saying that these meaages are not true just that we should never ever belive what we read on twitter or elsewhere unless there is evidence to support it.

For example I just researched the unemployment rate in germany and found this -

Germany's seasonally adjusted harmonised unemployment was unchanged at an over 38-year low of 3.3 percent in December 2018, as the number of unemployed dropped further and employment rose slightly.

This is a direct contradiction to the figures stated in your messages.
The fact is that here, in the US and in Europe there are 'people' based overseas and in russia in particular who are posting material like this to stoke internl dissent and anger.
So please don't take these messages as gospel please please research before believing them.

By huxley999 at 02,Feb,19 12:07 other posts of huxley999 
Hey phart,

Rather than asking us to "read and research", why don't you give a link to your source(s)?

Even at a cursory glance it looks like unsubstantiated bullshit.

"Many migrants have AIDS, syphilis, open TB and many exotic diseases that we in Europe do not know how to treat."

European medicine is, arguably, the best in the world. Since when does a hospital in one of the most developed countries in the world not know how to treat diseases?

"Until now, the number of unemployed in Germany was 2.2 million. Now it will be at least 3.5 million. Most of these people are completely unemployable."

Yet you say that "a million of them are already here". Even if NONE of them work, 2.2 million plus that million equals 3.2 million. Yet unemployment will be at least 3.5 million? Fake news or is arithmetic just an optional extra?

Without ANY research your rant is already falling to pieces.

I strongly suspect that Islamophobia, without evidence, is what we are actually seeing.

Here's a deal for you: come up with ONE, reputable, source that confirms that "armed police and dogs .. are in every hospital here in Bavaria" and then I MIGHT do some research on the rest of your BS.
By phart at 02,Feb,19 12:54 other posts of phart 
It came to me from a email,no resource that I am aware of.
I didn't post it saying it was fact.
I posted it to prompt thought and friendly,educational discussion on the topic as I hear alot of folks in my home town that are concerned about this issue alot.
So this group is made of people from all over the world and what better place to get a differnet view of the topic? Rather I like the response or not.

Being Snopes is run by liberal leaning folks,I would not trust them to tell me my dog barks.
In regards to issues like the email discuss's,I would consider a opionion or info from someone here that lives in that part of the world to be more accurate than snopes.
By huxley999 at 02,Feb,19 14:51 other posts of huxley999 
"No resource" (sic).

That pretty much sums it up.

Isn't it also paradoxical to say you don't trust Snopes, but will happily cut and paste the unsubstantiated bullshit in the first place?

You happily skim over the fact that, with just a cursory glance, I was able to show that 2 of the assertions are nonsensical as well.

Scapegoating those that are "other" is in the playbook of nearly every despot worthy of the name.

By Andthisisme at 02,Feb,19 17:04 other posts of Andthisisme 
Really you would rather believe an email of unsubstantiated wild allegations rather than a reasoned analysis of those allegations by a respected fact-checking agency trusted by multinational organisations?

The people spreading 'Fake News' for their own benefit - on any or either side - are counting on just that unquestioning attitude to cause the disruption and dissent that they are aiming for.

I am guessing you don't believe that the Russians were interested in disrupting the 2016 presidential election.
By milesbferry at 02,Feb,19 17:42 other posts of milesbferry 
Read away:

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By phart at 02,Feb,19 18:46 other posts of phart 
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By Andthisisme at 03,Feb,19 06:26 other posts of Andthisisme 
This link doesn't seem to work.

By huxley999 at 03,Feb,19 08:11 other posts of huxley999 
That Forbes article link is giving me "page not found". What does the article actually say?

By Andthisisme at 03,Feb,19 06:27 other posts of Andthisisme 
In relation to this thread in general what are you claiming that this article shows?
By phart at 03,Feb,19 11:00 other posts of phart 
I Had trouble trying to copy the link .It was about a fellow trying to verify information about Snopes and was having trouble getting the facts from the actuall guy that runs the website.
If you search the Forbes site you might be able to find it.
By kebmo at 03,Feb,19 11:19 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, if I don't read it or see it on a major news source I just don't believe it.
'Someone emailed it to me with no source' is not a reliable place to get your information and shape your opinion from.
If you read something that's hard to believe, check on a major news site to confirm it.
If you post something here that you want me to believe, back it up with a link to a major news source and don't expect me to search for your "information".
What you posted Phart is someone's opinion, which are like assholes, everyone has one.

By huxley999 at 03,Feb,19 12:03 other posts of huxley999 
Given Forbes' reputation regarding Ad blocking etc. I'm not going to search their site!!!

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I will, however, give you another source to confirm that the Bavarian hospital story is unproven bullshit:

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I suspect, nevertheless, that phart's myopic approach to evidence will trump anything I post. "Liberal leaning folks" can, it seems, not be trusted - you don't (of course) need any evidence to reach that conclusion.
By phart at 03,Feb,19 12:52 other posts of phart 
You folks aint figured out yet why I posted that?It is emails with information like this that is out there broadcast that inforces hate and so forth amoung all of us.Most folks here in the south believe this is what is going on over there.I tend think this email was blown out of proportion,but I do beleive some issues are unreported.
I am middle of the road on some issues and far right on others.I tend to lean in a direction regarding each problem presented that will leave the least harm and change to my enviroment and life.
You are doing what I wanted to see you do. I had some theorys

1,all of you would ban me as some asshole.
2, you would try to call me a liar without any evidence to prove it.
3, you would explain why the post was incorrect.

Most of you have done the civil thing,with the exception of a couple remarks.
You have shown evidence that this info is wrong.
NOW , if the folks that agree with immigration reform and so forth would put effort of that sort into explaining the other side of the story, things might be a bit different.
IN the real world, Riots,lawsuits and so forth do nothing to change the opionions of people.It usually enforc3s their current position.
By Andthisisme at 03,Feb,19 17:36 other posts of Andthisisme 
I certainly hope that no one has banned you. As far as I can see quite a few people have tried to find out if the statements in your initial post were true and some have offered evidence to support their positions.
We should all check the validity and truth of any such messages.

I saw interviews with quite a selection of US citizens in a documentary a little while ago where many of the people interviewd said that they never read a 'serious/reputable' newspaper or watched a news bulletin from a reputable channel. I was stunned how many got their news from social media and by items that friends and family sent them.
It is this sort of news gathering by people that is most prone to circulating misinformation.
No one should mistake social media posts as new reporting and the fact that so many seem to is really rather scary.
By milesbferry at 03,Feb,19 17:57 other posts of milesbferry 
There are no 'serious/reputable' newspapers, or 'watched a news bulletins from a reputable channel.'

That's why we get our news from 'other sources'.

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By phart at 03,Feb,19 18:16 other posts of phart 
Seeking the truth is a continual quest.Most of the time bearing no fruit.

By Andthisisme at 04,Feb,19 11:39 other posts of Andthisisme 
Really?? So you are saying that BBC, ITV and Channel 4 TV news are all unreliable as are The Telegraph, The Guardian, the Times newspapers. I have not listed the red tops for obvious reasons.

The only source that I recognise in your list is Breibart and that is most definitely NOT unbiased. It is - and this may be your particular choice and stance - a far right outlet. As biased in it's outlook as you may believe the sources that I listed initially may be.

only registered users can see external links has been described as far right and anti muslim. The organization has attracted attention for publishing false articles and being a source of viral falsehoods.

only registered users can see external links is a British political website started in 2014 with a conservative outlook. It describes its values as being "unashamedly those of faith, married family and nation-state"

All 3 of these have their own agendas -right wing - that they are pushing and are definitely not unbiased in theri reporting.
By milesbferry at 04,Feb,19 17:50 other posts of milesbferry 
What is wrong with having 'conservative' views? If that puts me on the 'right', then fair enough.

"has been described as far right"

Far right! Here we go. You'll be calling me a racist fascist next.

Yes, BBC, Telegraph, Sky News, and the rest you have listed, plus all the Main Stream Media, are all 'left'.

I love what @RealCandaceO is doing. Waking up Black and Latino America to the 'right way'.

PS. I'm not planning to carry out an atrocity. That's what muslims do, the world over.

'British political website started in 2014 with a conservative outlook. It describes its values as being "unashamedly those of faith, married family and nation-state'

What's wrong with that?

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I beg your pardon! You have looked at the Women's site!

I see you have removed No. 3? Doesn't fit your agenda?
By Andthisisme at 05,Feb,19 04:06 other posts of Andthisisme 
I have no problem with anyone holding left or right wing views, everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
This thread started with a message containing a list of statements about immigrants and Germany that were demonstrably not factually accurate,
All that I am saying to anyone is that we need to be aware that not everything that we read/ hear is true and always to consider the source and whether that source has an agenda.

I am not sure what you mean by ‘ you have looked at the woman’s site.’ And ‘ I see you have removed no 3’ I looked at the sites you referenced and commented on all 3.

By Andthisisme at 05,Feb,19 10:43 other posts of Andthisisme 
P.s I just watched the Candace Owens video and she is right to say that she objects to being manipulated. However, the figures on black men shot by the police are open to interpretation.
990 Black men shot by police - that is a checkable fact.
Only 16 were unarmed - again a checkable fact.
However she then goes onto say that in the remaining the 974 case the police officers had a right to defend thesmelves from someone coming at them with a gun. So here is my point. I am not questioning the fact that 974 were armed.. but where is the evidence that all 974 were running towards the police with their gun pointed that them?.

We are all familiar with the high profile cases where police have shot offenders who are actually running away from them. There was a case where a white woman, I think, who called the police for assistance was actually shot dead wile sat in her own car by the responding police officer.

Also given the very small percentage of the black population that are in fact shot by police what is the corresponding percentage for members of the white popululation? Is it similar or markedly different. Without that compararable statistic hers means nothing.

There is clearly an issue with the attitude of some US police officers. In some cases it may be racial but in many others it is through fear and paranoia. But that is a separate issue.
By milesbferry at 05,Feb,19 16:48 other posts of milesbferry 
I was apologising to you!

I found it well worth watching Dave Rubin's talks with Larry Elder. There are three, going back 3 years. He explains, with facts and figures, the police/black shootings.

If you have an hour to spare.....

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Actually, all of Dave's Rubin Reports are worth a watch. They show his conversion from liberal left to conservative right.

Edit: There's one with Candace Owens, too:
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By Andthisisme at 05,Feb,19 17:47 other posts of Andthisisme 
Oh sorry, thanks for the apology. I totally misunderstood.
I will see if I can fit in a viewing.

We could go around and around with this. I shall make this my last post in this thread. Thank you for the reasoned discussion.

My final, and actually also my original, thought is that being liberal left or conservative right is irrelevant to whether something is true or not. The original list of messages concerning Germany contained many facts that were checkable and were found to be untrue or distortions of the truth.
We should all be constantly wary of 'people/organisations' who try to spin/distort or make up news items to further their own agendas.

By phart at 30,Jan,19 22:05 other posts of phart 
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Maby this song will help some folks understand how Obamacare looks to us that worked and had good insurance until it came along.
By Andthisisme at 31,Jan,19 11:53 other posts of Andthisisme 
Those of us not living in the US really don't know enough about the scheme to comment sensibly. The scheme sounded wonderful offering cover to many people who just didn't have cover before. HOWEVER often good ideas have unintended consequences and maybe that is what happened here. I don't know, but the song does make it's point really clearly.
By phart at 31,Jan,19 12:52 other posts of phart 
I can't speak for the sincere intentions of the plan from when it started.But,done right some positive changes could have been made to health care.But in the end,it has only cost most of us more money and lower quality care.For example,my father has Barretts esphogus.It can become cancerous. The docotrs did a endoscopy on a set schedule to keep it in check. Until Ocare.When he was 82 he got his last 1 that insurance would cover according to the doctor unless symptoms indicated 1 was needed.He is having issues now and I hope it will not be to late for + treatment if it has turned to cancer.All to save a buck so to speak.
By Andthisisme at 01,Feb,19 06:43 other posts of Andthisisme 
We have to hope then that the President and Congress can get together and correct the flaws that you have encountered while still protecting the most vunerable.

By #578610 at 01,Feb,19 11:32
The biggest complaint was having to pay for the program whether you participated or not. For the last 8 yrs I've been enrolled in my employer's health insurance. It's very good and recognized by the government as being equivalent to "Obama" care. Many programs are and you don't have to change. Any insurance will stop paying after a set amount. Obama care was established because many, many people did not work for some reason or another (laid off). These people's options for insurance was cost prohibitive. There were problems with it. Sure there were. Still are. They have to be fixed. All programs need a period to fine tune it, and even then, there will always be some that fall through the cracks. I remember having maternity leave and not able to afford health insurance. This is something that is enjoyed by many countries of the world. We are the best and can't take care of the health of our fellow citizens. Sad

By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 02:38 other posts of kebmo 
Even if you don't believe in climate change there's still nothing wrong with reducing pollution, right?
By Scorps at 25,Jan,19 03:01 other posts of Scorps 
I don't necessarily believe it. But agree with you 100%!

Now! Get China, Japan, & India to at LEAST! Get down near the United States levels of pollution. And then we'll talk...
By Andthisisme at 25,Jan,19 05:21 other posts of Andthisisme 
I can see why you and others would hold this view but we are comparing apples and pears. We in the US, Europe and old Commonwealth countries had our industrial revolutions with their horrific environmental and heath effects in the 19th century. We have generally moved on, the countries that you are talking about are playing catch up with us in the 21st century.
Yes we need to persuade them to reduce their pollution but waiting for them to move before reducing our own pollution is crazy. Surely improving air quality within your own country so that children with Asthma can lead happier, healthier lives has to be a worthy goal on it’s own.
Those in power who wish to continue to burn fossil fuels should be open and honest and say that they are more concerned with money and profit than they are with improving people’s health.
By phart at 25,Jan,19 09:59 other posts of phart 
I have no real gripe with reducing polution for the most part.I don't go tossing burnt motor oil on baby ducks or burn tires for weenie roast.But when the county fails my car inspection for .01 % of a certain chemical in the exhaust that infuriates me.
Technology moves forward,and so will emissions.But the greenies tend to forget the economic impact of their drastic changes on the common person.I think the yellow vest thing in France is a good example.The citizens simply can't afford to live under the rules discussed or imposed.
Let things change a bit slower for the better.As a family needs to upgrade their car,let them buy 1 as then can afford to,not failing their current car leaving them walking to work so to speak.It is not quite that strict here yet but it is close.I could go on for hours but let's just say,the greenies need to learn that Rome was not built in a day.

By phart at 28,Jan,19 09:33 other posts of phart 
I just read a articale claiming that about half the Germans are supporting a speed limit on the Autobahn to help climate change. I think it said .5 % reduction?.Anyhow,that is about silly to forc# people to slow down and get killed in a wreck by a high speed rearender over a little emissions.That hwy has been speedlimit free since built.Works fine.
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By Scorps at 22,Jan,19 14:06 other posts of Scorps 
This goes out to some of our more vociferous members. Foriegn and Domestic.

Where's your OUTRAGE as to the young boys being verbally assaulted and threatened in Washington, D.C. on a school field trip?

Do you stand by the things that were said to those children?

Where's your outcry, for action against those racist pigs throwing slanderous, vile remarks at a group of kids!?

If ANY one of you think that shit was ok, please speak up.
If you didn't, why haven't you said anything?
Sincere question, why?

I would personally be ASHAMED to identify my beliefs, ideology with ANYONE who thinks that was ok. Where's your outrage?

It's moments like this, that illustrate that liberalism is a mental disorder. That was a shining moment for you Libs and Democrats alike. Where it proudly that you support filth like that, and speaking to a bunch of children in that manner is completely acceptable.
By mr_blue at 22,Jan,19 14:21 other posts of mr_blue 
Well now you have posted about it,people can discuss it can't they?

Maybe you could look at why a group of sch00lkids were taken on a trip without enough chaperones ?
I'm not even excusing the behaviour,but both sides play the blame game,and as I have said previously all media have an if it fits a narrative,they will use any tool to stimulate interest....

And this sort of lumping people together as a "particular group" all the time is part of the issue...
Fix the problem, blame no one, personally I take a broad view on all the stuff I see online,even more so with current world affairs...
I don't use Facebook or any other social media,so I am not bombarded with crap from the relevant echo chamber.... unfortunately most people get their news from Facebook or what some celebrity has said...

By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 14:46 other posts of huxley999 
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Is this what you're referring to?

I haven't been able to find a clip of the Black Hebrew Israelites abusing the kids but, assuming they did, it seems to me that nobody comes out of this smelling of roses.

There's a sensible right to peaceful protest and that seems to have been mishandled in this case. The reason, speaking just for myself, that I haven't expressed an opinion till now is because I wasn't aware AT ALL. It's not news in the UK.

Hurling insults is never cool. I'm outraged. However, to extrapolate that this means that "liberalism is a mental disorder" is rank sophistry.

By the way: is "voicetrous" a typo or what? Do you mean vociferous or, given the proximity of V to B on the keyboard, were you aiming for boisterous?
By Scorps at 22,Jan,19 15:14 other posts of Scorps 
Couldn't find it out of convenience? Here you go...
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I know how it pains SO many to watch anything on Fox News, but when it's the ONLY source who reports on something. Where else can one get these things from?
By mr_blue at 22,Jan,19 15:23 other posts of mr_blue 
Video doesn't show truth, only a sequence of events

By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 15:29 other posts of huxley999 
Thanks for posting the video. It shows the BHI being disgusting and also shows that people on social media have a habit of shooting their mouths off without being in full possession of the facts.

Tucker Carlson's commentary is pretty risible though. It's just his own opinions.

I return to my original reply: nobody came out of that smelling of roses. I'm outraged. It doesn't mean liberalism is a mental disorder. Happy?
By Scorps at 22,Jan,19 18:39 other posts of Scorps 
Thanks SO much Hux!

You've given me a lil faith seeing you declare your outrage. So... Yes! It made me quite happy. 😙

They were kids, you dont fucking talk to kids that way. I can't seem to find the ENTIRE over an hour long video, in order to see the hinted justification of talking to those youngsters in that manner. I think, IF in fact, the children were being shitheads, consider the source, and move on.
THAT would be the grown up thing to do.

Oh! And thanks for bringing my error, up above, to my attention. 🙂
By huxley999 at 23,Jan,19 09:57 other posts of huxley999 
Hey Scorpio,

You're more than welcome - on all counts.

Nice to have an Internet discussion with someone open-minded and willing to listen to another person's point of view.

By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 15:53 other posts of JustWill 
FOX isn't the "only source" to report the story, Scorpio. It was covered on CNN and various other media outlets. FOX is the only one that put their particular "spin" on the story, however.

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Of course, if you only get your news from FOX, I can see why you might think that no one else covered it.

By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 16:59 other posts of mr_blue 
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Long video version here
By Scorps at 24,Jan,19 01:34 other posts of Scorps 
You're one of the bestest!! Thank you my good man

By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 15:51 other posts of JustWill 
"I'm sure that you had some very fine people on both sides"--D. Trump

What the "Hebrew Israelites" said and did was disgusting. Their comments were racist, foul, and disgusting. How they treated those kids was unpardonable.

But, the behavior of those same kids, when dealing with the Native people who were also there, was also wrong. (Please tell me that you are not defending the smug little prick in the MAGA hat just because he is wearing a cap with your rallying cry emblazoned upon it.)

The Natives weren't insulting them; the kids were mocking the Indians. The man with the drum is singing a prayer song.
He is insulting no one, merely making his way to the Lincoln Memorial with his group to finish their Indigenous People's Gathering. Smirking MAGA-boy, instead of stepping aside out of respect for an elder, stands in his way.

The Native drummer is making no threat. All the kid has to do is step aside and let him pass which, again, would be the respectful thing to do. Instead, he puts on a cocky, entitled grin and treats the Native man with the same disrespect that the "Hebrews" showed him and his friends.

That boy is not an innocent and bullied kid. He is behaving in the same fashion as the people who targeted his group. MAGA- boy is just as bad as the "Hebrews".
By Scorps at 22,Jan,19 19:10 other posts of Scorps 
Thanks SO much Will! For stating their comments were "racist, foul, disgusting, and unpardonable".

I would say more here, but I'm not sure we seen the same video. I saw the Indian guy walk up to the boy. Therefore, if the Indian man, walks into the boy who is standing still, how exactly is the boy obstructing? Have you ever been to any of the memorials, etc. in D.C.? It's not like there is a narrow path. There's NO way the kid was impeding his movement. I can see where you might construe his look as smug. It looked like a young man that was nervous, hence the smiling, and not sure what the Indians intentions were. Kinda like a childish stare down. That being said, that's PRECISELY why I'm so bothered by this. They were just dumb kids. Until you yourself are a Father, I don't guess you will ever understand that part. They aren't fully grown active members of our society. They're still learning to wipe their own noses. And you want to hold them just as accountable for their actions as the 40+ year olds who are supposed to be smarter. I'm not conceding here, as I cannot find any verifiable example of what you're stating.
By phart at 22,Jan,19 20:46 other posts of phart 
-What is missing in the discribtion of the indian with a drum is he was a former Marine. Had smurk boy did ANYTHING to threaten, he woulda had the shit beat out of him 2 times till sunday. I over heard some of what the indian said on tv the other day and he witnessed the confortation and put himself between them to prevent violence.Now rather or not that was what was going on,who will really know.

That smurking kid ought to have his butt spanked in public like a 3rd grader.They were not to "young" to not know how to act in public,if raised any where near right.
The "kids" were old enough to turn the other cheek and if they read the same Bible I have in the book case it says you should turn the other cheek in a situation like this. So those catholic school kids must be learning from some new interpretation of the Bible.
Fsult lies on all sides of this.
IF those kids were under 18,there should have been plenty of adult supervision.
By cody8789 at 22,Jan,19 21:59 other posts of cody8789 
Phart is right on in his interpretation on what happened, I agree with phart, again, that's my opinion.
By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 15:04 other posts of Scorps 
Cody... Whatever!

By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 23:06 other posts of JustWill 
Phart, this may surprise you, but we are in agreement this time!

By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 13:55 other posts of Scorps 
I'm a bit surprised at your response phart! 🙄

The Indian man, Nathan Philips, conceded to National Review, amongst others. That HE, initiated the confrontation. I couldn't figure out how to link the article for you, sorry!

That being said... It's mind numbing you and some others seem to be making a bigger fuss out the boy than what should be the real story.

Let's recap...

So, you believe the major take from this story should be about a young Catholic school boy, from the heartland of America, staring down an elder Indian man, thumping on a drum, (for conversation sake) in a disrespectful, condescending, and smug manner? Is that an accurate assessment of what YOU believe we should be focusing on here? 🤔
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 16:17 other posts of mr_blue 
It's all trial by media,you had three distinct groups of very different mentality in the same place
All are to blame....
Why were those young men wearing MAGA hats at a march for life protest ?
What happened to the police ?
Why weren't the police called to arrest those shouting racist slurs ?

I think people jumped to conclusions way to quick,and all of them got found out...
I wouldn't be surprised if this "event" was staged myself...
Someone trying to show "all media" for what they are.... propaganda merchants...

By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 23:04 other posts of JustWill 
Scorpio, it is true that I am not a father. However, I worked as a therapist in a group home for delinquent and dependent kids for six years and I have taught high school English for over a decade. I am quite familiar with the expression on that boy's face, and it is one of condescension, defiance, and bravado. That is the expression of a kid with a hostile attitude who is showing off for his peers, not a nervous and frightened lad.

And, yes, they should be held just as accountable for their actions as a 40+ year old. They aren't toddlers and are old enough to know better and be accountable for poor behavior choices. Being held accountable is how they learn not to be smug and condescending little pricks.
By phart at 23,Jan,19 10:10 other posts of phart 
With all the bad publicity the catholic church has had lately you would think the catholic schools would be teaching the students to behave better in public.
By huxley999 at 23,Jan,19 12:54 other posts of huxley999 
I didn't want to, gratuitously, mention it before but: is it commonplace for children to be taken out of school to go on protest marches in the US?

If I were a parent paying for my boy to go to that school I would want them to spend their time studying or going on educational visits, NOT protest marches.
By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 14:51 other posts of Scorps 

as a former parochial student myself, and having put my own children through private education. I can tell you, the education is more disciplined, smaller class sizes allow the teachers to be more effective. For example... Wife is a public school teacher down in the inner city. Class size is like 28 to 38 students per class. Our kids class sizes ranged between 18 and 22. Makes a BIG difference, believe it or not. The March for Life is, was, could be considered an educational visit. That's certainly NOT all they did while visiting Washington, D.C. As I have taken many groups of students there. Also, they may have only missed one or 2 days of actual school, considering the march was on the weekend. Easily made up with "snow days". Trips like that, HAVE to have parent permission. So, I can only assume none were opposed to the trip, despite the parents paying for their education.
By huxley999 at 23,Jan,19 15:16 other posts of huxley999 
Thanks for the, pertinent, background info.

By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 15:03 other posts of Scorps 

"Bad publicity the Catholic church has had lately"? I guess I missed it, do explain, please!

Attending church 3 times a week and religion class twice a week as part of the curriculum. One would think, that would be enough influence to good behaviour in public. As with ANY human beings. None are totally predictable. Just look at me, I have some very differing views and I was once just like them boys.
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 15:57 other posts of mr_blue 
Catholic church -sexual abuse by priests.
Syracuse, Pennsylvania,Buffalo...list goes on...
By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 16:17 other posts of Scorps 

Ahhhh... Well, I guess I haven't payed any attention to it, if that's all current news. I mean, I've certainly heard about these things like as late as 3 years to 25 years ago. 😐 There's fucked up people in EVERY portion of society, so what's new about that? There's NOT 1 single group, organization, race, whatever, free of deviants. That being said, if you disagree, name some names, please! I was a Catholic schoolboy, served as an altar boy, had tons of interactions with Priests and Nuns alike. All of which I would classify as great caring people. Hell, one of my Priests was a smoker, that was unheard of even in my day. But he was still a great man. I would agree that it may seem more shocking that these things happen within the Catholic church. But just because it may seem a lil more unnerving, if you will. Doesn't make the abuse any more or less severe than a politician, police officer, school teachers, etc.
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 16:51 other posts of mr_blue 
I just posted about the publicity you asked about..
Thing with religion,you can't preach to do one thing then break the very rules you are supposed to live by...

Your experience of religion has been a good one,for lots of people who were supposed to be cared for,nurtured by their church,it hasn't been the case...

By cody8789 at 24,Jan,19 03:28 other posts of cody8789 
I went to a catholic school myself for six years. With nuns and priests. I hated it so much, they used to beat me with pointers and slap me on my face, I was only a little boy at the time, all for just talking when I wasn't supposed to be. When my parents took me out of that school and put me in a public school, my whole life changed for the better, and I came out of my shell. I would never put my kids in a catholic school

By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 14:29 other posts of Scorps 
Ok Will!

Let's say I concede with your assessment of the boy's facial expression. Which I don't completely. I have raised 7 children from birth onward. 5 upstanding productive citizens and 2 minors still at home. I was a school bus driver for 10 years, my wife is a teacher, and now I drive a cross country tour bus. The exact kind that the students were waiting for, when they were confronted. Does either description make one of us more or less of an expert? I think not! Difference in opinions, nothing more OR less.

I disagree that the 16 year old boy should be held just as accountable as the 40+ year olds. Of course, depending on what situations were discussing. In this case, percieved mannerisms, NOT! They are still going through puberty and figuring life out. Perhaps your implying that the marked difference that I noted about my own children prior to them turning 19 even 20 years old. Is nothing more than a farce? ALL of them when they hit 19 and 20, BAM! Like flipping a light switch on! Came into theirselves and seemed to behave, and function more adultlike. Coincidence?

Lastly, as I asked phart up above. Is it your position that this whole story should be about the young boy, who in a most condescending, smug, defiant manner (your words) stood his ground, when confronted by an elder Indian man beating on a drum? Is that what SHOULD be focused on in this story?
By phart at 23,Jan,19 19:14 other posts of phart 
Scorpio,I have not done alot of research on this subject as to me there is not much I can do about it.But i did listen to something on nbc from the Indian and he said we have to stand up to the violence,so regardless if he put himself in the middle or not,does not mean the Black Hebrew whatevers should have been making bad remarks and the students by no means should have particapated in the taunting.Once the taunting from them went towards the Native Americans, it became a issue for sure.They should be learning not to discriminate in their school.Just as the Indian ask in that video I watched,Who teaches their kids that?
Besides,the young student should have stepped aside out of respect for the Indian and or Veteran.Again,no respect shown by the young guy at all.Just a smurk.
NO that is not the only issue.But the fact that no one considers the actions of the younger student to be a problem IS a issue.He should be held accountable,I would say at least a suspension from school to deter others from following his footsteps.Look at the bad publicity he has brought his school and fellow students.And I thought everyone knew the catholic preist were doing bad things to kids for decades,up to being in the news just a couple months back.
There was fault on all sides.
I guess the next time a Indian and or Marine witnesses something that may lead to violence,they will just buy some popcorn and a Coke and sit back like a liberal democrat and watch the shit hit the fan. Would you consider THAT a better response to the incident?

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By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 15:31 other posts of Scorps 
Hey talk!

Yes! It's been a while, indeed!

I admit, when this story first came to my attention. Yes, I thought it was possibly an awful moment, as for whatever reason. I have a lil sweet spot in my heart and soul for native Americans. Once I saw the other, MORE prominent portions of this story, in my opinion of course. I felt quite foolish for my initial feelings about what I observed and felt. Now that I have seen what I have seen, I'm absolutely OUTRAGED! Yet, no one else here seems to be. They wanna keep focusing on the boy...

I betcha by God, if it was the fucking KKK OR simply a group of WHITE MEN saying the things that were said. The boy would not have been mentioned WHATSOEVER!! Let's just keep focusing on the boy who barely knows his ass from his elbow.

BTW, I get what your eluding to. I'm already on the record as stating that I'm none of the above classifications. As far as political affiliations, beliefs, ideologies, or whatever. I have NO choice in America but to lean towards 1 party as there is basically NO other choice. What more do you want? The closest party that I can relate to, for the mostpart, is the conservative or Republican party. But I have things that I believe in, that would make them cringe too. What can you do? Do! Delight us with your words of wisdom...

By Skittles at 23,Jan,19 17:00 other posts of Skittles 
@ Scorpio.. it IS a disease I am the cure!!
By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 17:12 other posts of Scorps 
>bows< to his greatness!!

By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 17:18 other posts of mr_blue 
we're all getting shafted by both sides...yet big business and corporations steamroller ahead buying Congress votes,and we all blame each other

Elitism, or "the I'm better than you cuz I have x,y or z" is evident in conservative and liberal circles....

Add the internet/social media outrage into it,and we're all mental....we feed the cycle

By #559941 at 23,Jan,19 17:19
They are going all out to throw trump out of office. They don't care how they do it..

By Andthisisme at 24,Jan,19 09:46 other posts of Andthisisme 
I have not watched the various videos that have been posted including the rather long one involving a group Jews who were involved. However, I heard a rather sensible account of the events broadcast here by the B.B.C.
His argument was that even before people had viewed the video they had already made up their minds what they were going to see. he and people he knew well had both watched the various videos and they 'saw' totally different things.
Why? because we have become tribal. Anyone who is not like me is the enemy and clearly always 100% in the wrong.
A final thought, this was a minor incident of no real worth which before social media would have been forgotten almost immediately but because of socila media this story is running and running with entrenched opinions being spewed again and again.

We cannot put the socila media genie back into the bottle but really must start to remember that a video posted is one view of the incident that may not include action before and after as well as action out of shot. One social media video is not gospel or a tablet of stone.
By phart at 24,Jan,19 22:32 other posts of phart 
I had a brain fart and thought I would mention it here.
I wear a Trump MAGA hat alot.But I aint on a school field trip and I am voting age.
Somewhere in this long line of post someone mentioned this all coulda been a setup.
Why would a group of Catholic students,under voting age,all be wearing RED Maga hats on a field trip? That seems a bit fishy right there.I seriously doubt all their parents were of the republican varity.
Just something I thought I would toss in the ring.
This whole thing coulda been a setup just to ruffle feathers.
By Andthisisme at 25,Jan,19 05:13 other posts of Andthisisme 
Which is why I suggested that we need to look outside of a short video clip posted on social media before jumping to a conclusion about anything. Just because something is posted or said on these media does not mean that they are accurate or true.

By Scorps at 25,Jan,19 01:25 other posts of Scorps 
I MUST say, I heard a lil tiny segment today on the news, that I believe EVERY American should raise an eyebrow to.

BOTH! I repeat, BOTH! China and Russia stated today, that the United States needs to NOT "Poke Our Nose" into the Venezuelan affairs.

That's HUGE! It was just a tiny lil piece of the news. And no one seemed very alarmed by that... I love and believe in our military, but 2 countries like China AND Russia telling us to butt out!

I think I agree, we should 100% butt out! I'm ABSOLUTELY certain I wouldn't wanna see us start any shit with 2 other superpowers simultaneously. I'm a lil unnerved by that being said today. And no one else seems to be batting an eye.

Did anyone else catch that on the news today?
What are your thought?

We cannot be the World's babysitter!
By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 01:47 other posts of kebmo 
Read this from the Washington Post.
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By Scorps at 25,Jan,19 02:01 other posts of Scorps 
Oh My! Well... There you go! I've told you all, I don't lock step with EVERY decision by Mr. Trump. Thanks for the article. I hope things change and he's not pushed, I'm not certain it would be very good for any of us...

By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 16:40 other posts of Scorps 
DON'T LOOK NOW! But, Venezuela is breaking off relations with the United States! What will we do now...
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 16:53 other posts of mr_blue 
Declare there's a migrant caravan heading towards America ??????
By Scorps at 23,Jan,19 17:01 other posts of Scorps 
Bahahahahahaha Now THAT'S funny right there! I don't care who you are... Indeed!
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 17:07 other posts of mr_blue 
I do have a sense of humour believe it or not
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By phart at 23,Jan,19 18:45 other posts of phart 
I just read something that came accross my flat face "smart phone" that was supposed to be news.Russia sent 2 nuclear capable bombers to Venezuela.So is Russia going to pawn off all their old junk on them and we have to sit back and play shoot the bomber down?

By Skittles at 23,Jan,19 17:00 other posts of Skittles 
The view from off brand Mexico will be obscured very soon!
By mr_blue at 23,Jan,19 17:05 other posts of mr_blue 
And most d.rugs will still come by boat from the Dominican republic, Bahamas and Puerto Rico...
Those pesky criminals hey

It's not going to stop immigration or d.rugs(Americans like to get high)...trump just wants a wall as monument to himself....

By mr_blue at 21,Jan,19 15:49 other posts of mr_blue 
Kamala Harris is gonna run for president.....I wonder how trump will react to that ?
By JustWill at 21,Jan,19 18:31 other posts of JustWill 
The same way he reacts to everything...BADLY and without CLASS.
By Scorps at 21,Jan,19 18:48 other posts of Scorps 
As if she deserves any less... 😆😆😆😆
By phart at 22,Jan,19 12:45 other posts of phart 
never heard of her,I guess I will have to google that name to.
WHy can't we get someone on either side to run that folks already know so we don't have to guess where they stand on issues we are concerned about.

Edit,well that was depressing,yet another health care for all idiot that has no idea money does not grow on trees.

"Harris has supported Medicare for all, legalization of recreational marijuana, sanctuary cities, passing a DREAM Act, lowering taxes for the working- and middle-class while raising taxes on corporations and the wealthy, and has disavowed most corporate donations. "

The turning down MOST corporate donations is notable,but just who is she getting money from would be a good question. George SOros?
But as soon as I saw she wants to raise taxes on the corporatains that employ the working class she wants to reduce the taxes on, I knew she can't be to smart. That just means they will reduce employees and wages paid to make up for the higher taxes.
By #577391 at 22,Jan,19 13:00
Donald Duck doesn't want to run

By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 13:29 other posts of huxley999 
They don't bother with the trees, phart.

They "simply create it out of thin air" (see para 2 of this article):

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If a nation as rich as the US can't provide universal healthcare it's because you have screwed up how to allocate your National resources, not because you can't afford to do so.
By mr_blue at 22,Jan,19 13:34 other posts of mr_blue 
Rule eleven in monopoly

By phart at 22,Jan,19 20:32 other posts of phart 
Hux, there is alot screwing up to go around.1 thing that burns me is the exspensive doctors offices and equipment that sit idle for 16 hours of each work day and 24 hours 2 days a week. Doctors and nurses should be working in shifts to provide more care more often and use those offices and equipment instead of folks waiting a month to see a specialtist or longer.Make more money,they could charge less for the services.
Look at the good paying jobs that could be had by the unemployed by simply opening those offices 8 more hours a day!
Now I know hospitals do this,I am talking about the family doctors and the specialist that do like out patient surgerys and such.
By huxley999 at 23,Jan,19 09:54 other posts of huxley999 
Interesting points, phart. As someone whose utterings seem to indicate that you are to the right, politically, how would you suggest making that happen?

Free market capitalism does not, it would appear, provide any financial incentive for family surgeries; specialists; or out-patient surgeries to do so.

Might it require state/federal intervention to help make this happen? That's a bit left-wing isn't it?

To my mind it boils down to a pretty simple question:

Do you want to ensure that every citizen of your Nation has access to healthcare when they need it and how do you propose to pay for that? My answer is "yes" and that you fund it out of the public purse/general taxation and you do NOT require people to take out medical insurance. You can argue differently, if you wish, but think things through.

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If you read that - you can see that you spend, as a Nation, more of your GDP on healthcare and don't get the results you should. Empiricism might make you reconsider your views.

I would argue that your relatively poor results are as a direct result of allowing the profit motive to be part of the raison d'etre of your healthcare providers.

The British NHS has it's problems, particularly under our current right wing government, but I'll take it over the US system any day of the week.
By phart at 23,Jan,19 10:13 other posts of phart 
That is why there is 2 or more parties.Because it takes all kinds WORKING TOGETHER to solve problems.
Yes the fed or state could mandate expanding the avaialbity of health care as far as time of day if they would.
BUT the fed could also mandate the cost of education to become a medical doctor or nurse.Have you had any dealings with the cost of being educated in the US? When a doctor gets his or her or it's degree,it is saddled with a 100 grand of college debt. So they charge alot to cover that.
Medical fraud cost alot to cover up all the doctors fuck ups. So they charge more. Fix that.
Just a little for staters.I will type up more later.
By huxley999 at 23,Jan,19 10:26 other posts of huxley999 
You're beginning to sound decidedly anti-capitalist, phart --- careful!!

How about free education AND free healthcare. And, before you jump up and down, when I say "free" I mean paid for out of the public purse and supported by proper, progressive taxation. Almost like (whisper it quietly) democratic socialism.

And, yes I know, the S word makes some Americans froth at the mouth. Just tell me what's wrong with the tenet.

By mr_blue at 21,Jan,19 05:01 other posts of mr_blue 
What comes to your mind when you hear the term PC(politically correct) ?
By Andthisisme at 21,Jan,19 06:44 other posts of Andthisisme 
Strangely, perhaps, I thought of a desktop computer
By #577391 at 21,Jan,19 08:08
When desktop computers where either a business or a PERSONAL COMPUTER (I'm 70) PC's where the new toy in town. My first experience was in 1984. Windows and Google were not around.
By phart at 21,Jan,19 08:48 other posts of phart 
Policticaly Correctness. The concept of being able to pick up a turd from the clean end.
Frankly I think it is stupid to have to change your wording so as to not offend someone regardless of your ideals.
We should all be free to speak our minds without fear of lawsuits and mob gangs burning down our homes.
Even if I think what you said was dumb as hell,as long as you don't stand in the way of my abilty to reply,you are free to speak.That is the way it should be.
By JustWill at 21,Jan,19 12:02 other posts of JustWill 
Way to stand up for your right to offend as many people as you possibly can.
By phart at 22,Jan,19 09:15 other posts of phart 
We may not have the "right" to offend people at will,but neither do we have the "right" to never be offended.
By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 10:00 other posts of JustWill 
What does that even mean? Are you suggesting that a black person shouldn't be offended when someone drops an N-bomb on them?

You do realize that the vast majority of people who whine about political correctness are old white guys who miss being able to use racial slurs in public, right?

Other than giving you a false sense of "superiority", what do you actually gain by intentionally insulting other people?

By huxley999 at 21,Jan,19 18:43 other posts of huxley999 
It reminds me of a great book I recently read by Yasmin Alibhai-Brown. Some of the accompanying "blurb" pretty much sums up my opinion:

Individual rights cannot always take precedence over collective, social responsibility. Without self-moderation, our streets, schoolyards, public transport, waiting rooms and restaurants would turn into bear pits. Most citizens understand that. Some, however, seem determined to cause disorder in the name of free speech. Powerful, machiavellian and wealthy individuals are leading this disruption and breaking the old consensus.

Thus, anti-political correctness has taken over the UK and US, spearheaded by some of the most influential voices in media and politics. Invective, lies, hate speech, bullying, intemperance and prejudice have become the new norms. Intolerance is justified through invocations of liberty. Restraint is oppression. A new order has been established in which racism, sexism, homophobia and xenophobia are proudly expressed.

In spite of many failures, this (PC) movement has led to a more civilised, equal and tolerant world.
By phart at 21,Jan,19 20:21 other posts of phart 
Some of what is said there is folks taking it to the extreme.I don't walk around calling folks the n word just for the hell of it for example.
It aint smart.
But if the subject came up about why are more blacks in jail than whites,I would have to bite my tongue for the sake of politcal correctness as for whatever reason the fact the stats could explain it would offend them.
That is where I think the polical correctness is used by the liberal democrat.If a person trys to explain a problem or a solution and the numbers and facts hurt them,they holler the person is politicaly incorrect and all the other adjectives they can cough up.
It is used like a tool by alot of people to suppress what they don't want to hear.
By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 09:27 other posts of huxley999 
"We should all be free to speak our minds without fear of lawsuits and mob gangs burning down our homes. "

"I don't walk around calling folks the n word just for the hell of it for example.
It aint smart."

Can you see any sort of cognitive dissonance in your two statements?
By phart at 22,Jan,19 12:41 other posts of phart 
CAN YOU not understand.? is the question.Please don't take that as being mean,I just wanted you to see the question so I made it capitol letters.
I have to be concerned,that is the whole problem!.We should not have to be concerned.BUT at the same time,the actions of others should not prompt us to need to vent ourselves in a way that would be offensive.
Treat each other well,love each other,and there would be no need to be negitive. I will google that fancy word you used. Sorry,I am not a walking Websters!
By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 12:57 other posts of huxley999 
I disagree.

You being "concerned", which I take to mean as taking care when you choose your words, is part of being a decent, responsible citizen. So you SHOULD be concerned, as should we all.

You seem to agree that calling African Americans the N word is offensive. Would you entertain the proposition that calling people "crippled", rather than "disabled", could also be considered offensive?

If you do, I would suggest that you agree that language evolves and that what was acceptable 20 years ago is no longer acceptable.

I'm not a fan of legislating in these matters but I do think being "politically correct" (for want of a better phrase) is part of treating each other well and loving each other - to plagiarise your own words.

To really twist your melon I am a free speech absolutist. People are free to say whatever they want (barring such silly examples as shouting "Fire" in a crowded theatre). Here's the catch though: just because you're free to say it doesn't make it morally acceptable.

Thanks for the caveat. I don't think you're being mean, but I would encourage you to think about the inherent contradictions in your statements so far.

By phart at 21,Jan,19 09:13 other posts of phart 
A woman who had been married three times walked into a bridal shop one day and told the sales clerk that she was looking for a wedding gown for her fourth wedding.

"Of course, madam," replied the sales clerk, "exactly what type and color dress are you looking for?"

The bride-to-be said, "A long frilly white dress with a veil."

"Please don't take this the wrong way, madam, but such dresses are usually more fitting for the first time bride who is more innocent in the ways of life, if you get my meaning.

"WELL!," replied the customer, a little peeved at the clerk's directness, "I can assure you that a white gown would be quite appropriate. Believe it or not, despite all my marriages, I remain as innocent as a first-time bride.
You see, my first husband was so excited about our wedding, he died as we were checking into our honeymoon hotel.
My second husband and I got into such a terrible fight in the limo on our way to our honeymoon hotel that we had that wedding annulled immediately and never spoke to each other again."

"What about your third husband?"

"That one was a Democrat", said the woman, "and every night for four years, he just sat on the edge of the bed and told me how good it was going to be, but nothing ever happened."
By Scorps at 21,Jan,19 11:19 other posts of Scorps 
Oh that's perfect!

By kebmo at 21,Jan,19 18:43 other posts of kebmo 

By mr_blue at 02,Jan,19 17:11 other posts of mr_blue 
Who has been affected by the US government shutdown?
By phart at 03,Jan,19 10:00 other posts of phart 
So far I don't know anyone ,but it appears alot of park staff and such are not working right now.Their salarys are probably on hold until things get going.
But if you really look at it,has anyone really noticed the government shut down?I haven't. And I bet a dollar against any donut,the IRS is still fully funded!
By mr_blue at 15,Jan,19 07:50 other posts of mr_blue 
Have you noticed the shutdown yet ? who is to blame ?
By bella! at 15,Jan,19 08:26 other posts of bella! 
Just my opinion, it looks like business as usual. I'm quite certain that if I was employed by the government, I would have a lot to say.

Mail is delivered daily and where I live and from where Iwork, it would appear that our custom agents and border patrol employees report to work daily.
By phart at 15,Jan,19 10:06 other posts of phart 
I haven't noticed anything yet.
I have to admit I would rather the folks got a pay check that are working but I can't fix that.
BUT I did read about 1 guy that was crying about not getting a check and his hourly wage was 45 bucks a hour! If he aint making enough to put back some for a rainy day, I don't feel a bit sorry for him.
What I would like for the democrats to do is to explain WHO decided WHAT branchs of government not to pay to work?
IF you gave a half a damn about the US you would not stop air traffic controlers and security personal from getting a check.You would cut park stafff, Epa staff,fbi office workers,jobs with a low impact on the safety of the people.
What has happened is some libtard decided to cut these folks off to make the US ripe for a terrorist attack they could in turn blame on TRUMP,thus making him look bad.
Think about that before you comment. They created a nest to hatch a terriable sitution.
By mr_blue at 16,Jan,19 03:25 other posts of mr_blue 
Trump said he would keep the government shutdown for years and he confirmed that he actually said that...
I really feel for the people not getting paid...
What happens if those people cannot meet mortgage payments or rent cuz they have used their savings already?
It's not their fault government shutdown is it? They are being used as pawns...
So not really sure it's some libtards fault....

By kebmo at 16,Jan,19 09:04 other posts of kebmo 
Phart did you forget that the president had ultimate power; the Senate, House of Representatives and the Presidency for two years and failed to live up to Trump's promise of building a wall between the US and Mexico that Mexico would pay for? Remember that campaign promise?
Did you hear Trump say to Schumer and Pelosi at their news conference that he, Trump, would OWN this shutdown?
Are you aware that the building of the wall and the government shutdown have NOTHING in common? Why is the government shutdown because the wall isn't being built? Why isn't the wall already built?
Why do you want the Democrats to explain who decided what branches of government not to pay to work? The POTUS is a Republican and the reason that they are not being paid is because Trump is holding them hostage! The citizens of the USA that work for the Federal Government are being held hostage by their President because he can't get his wall built.
The two things have nothing in common.
The two things have nothing in common.
The two things have nothing in common.
The two things have nothing in common.
By phart at 16,Jan,19 09:54 other posts of phart 
I want someone, democrats,to explain who decided who does and does not get paid because THEY are the 1's that benifit from any bad press.
I will be the first to admit,we had a bunch of Rino's in office those 2 years that would not support our President and their names are remembered.1 is no longer with us that messed up the removal of O care but anyway, there was alot of traitors in office at that time.

But as for the workers,I do feel for them,but they should be poking at the Dem's to agree to the wall so things can get back to going.But as for the 1 whineing about not getting his 45 a hour, at that much money coming in,he should have a savings.No reason not to.
Prosperity is worthless if your nation is not secure.and right now it is not.
By mr_blue at 16,Jan,19 13:23 other posts of mr_blue 
Democrats are happy with the wall that is already there,trump is the one who had a deal on the table and threw a hissy fit,he admitted that too...
And savings only go so far,so someone should save money for a rainy day,then be happy that the money they have saved for their future is being eaten up by day to day living expenses...
Even when trump admits he owns the shutdown,you are still blaming democrats...that is the power of the Donald over his supporters...

By kebmo at 16,Jan,19 15:03 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, when will you realize that the government shutdown is something that YOUR PRESIDENT decided to go forward with. It isn't the fault of someone else because TRUMP decided to do something stupid.
I think that most people agree that the US needs border security AND that the government shutdown needs to end but, and read this carefully, WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO DO WITH EACH OTHER? They are two separate issues.
The Democrats tabled a bill to finance the government and reopen it and sent it to Trump to sign but he refused to because it didn't include funding for the wall.
Why would he do that Phart?

The two things have nothing in common.
The two things have nothing in common.
The two things have nothing in common.
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The federal government decides who has to work unpaid and who is laid off. These decisions are not made by the Democratic Party.

Those who remain at work are called "excepted" while those who are furloughed are called "non-excepted" (not "essential" vs. "non-essential," which are the more commonly used, but not official, terms). Individual agencies make these decisions in what the government calls contingency plans.
By Scorps at 16,Jan,19 16:20 other posts of Scorps 
The amount of funding being requested for border security, is MINUSCULE in contrast to the rest of government spending and budgets! It's virtually INSIGNIFICANT in the grand scheme of things. That being said, those same fingers your pointing at the President, can ALSO point to the dipshits on the left. It's called HYPOCRISY!! Why do we wish to excoriate one, Donald J. Trump, and not the other fuckheads? I ask that question with utmost sincerity. Here's why this is even being spoken about.

1. Do the news sources you use, report or show the number of agents begging for a barrier? NO!

2. Are your news sources showing you recent collages or sound bites, video clips, interviews, etc. of each and everyone of them douchebags on the left, i.e. Pelosi, Shumer, and many others. Stating during their time in politics that they believe in and WANT a barrier between Mexico and the United States? NO!

Shall I load this thread up with the PROOF of them stating their positions on this matter? And NOW! OMG! Because Donald J. Trump is President of the United States, "walls are immoral" OR "walls are ineffective". Gimme a fucking break!

If I post them are you going to watch them? If I post the ones in charge of border security, unno the bosses if you will, requesting a barrier. Would you watch it? Aren't the ones in charge of our border security supposed to be the experts and know what's needed?

I'll answer for you... NO, you won't take the time to watch them because it won't fit your narrative or blinding HATRED!

Now! Why is it SOLELY his fault? Where's your outcry for them, the left, Dems, to stop being obstructionists? Why didn't you include them in this thread?

The amount is minuscule as aforementioned, so fucking what, give it to him! Let's move on!

Lastly, it's OBVIOUSLY needed for a multitude of reasons so whether one has anything to do with the other or not give him the fucking money, and POOOF the shutdown is OVER!

He is the President of the United States whether you like it or not. If he deems it necessary, along with the experts, or those in charge of our security. Then give it to him! That's WORKING TOGETHER, no such luck for that anytime soon.

I'll leave you with this thought...

We have doors on our homes, walls, blinds, curtains, shades, etc. for reasons. I'm sure you understand that! Before you start with the compassionate bullshit. I'm sure a vast number of us would help anyone that comes a knockin on our door in need of help. Would you be willing to help that same person if they knock DOWN your door OR walls to gain entry into your home? Well... Would you? The answer is probably fuck no!! If not, then you are an idiot who should be committed. STOP YOUR FUCKING HYPOCRISY!
By phart at 16,Jan,19 20:38 other posts of phart 
only registered users can see external links

Mexico could be paying for the wall,and alot of the exspenses created by the illegal drug trade.Here read this link.
By kebmo at 17,Jan,19 00:12 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, just giving the president the money for the wall is capitulation not working together. He's used to having things done the way he wants them but that's just not the case any more. The American electorate has spoken.

Maybe if every unpaid air traffic controller in the country phoned in sick for a few days shit would get done.
By Scorps at 17,Jan,19 03:00 other posts of Scorps 
Works for me as I could give a flying fuck about air traffic.

You're surely right about them having spoken. Hence him being the President. That was a major sell for his base.

By your statement, I can only assume you believe the American people don't want the wall. May I further assume that you believe that, because of some poll you heard? Ever consider those saying the American people don't want the wall are the same ones that said Hillary was most certainly going to win and Mr. Trump would lose by HUGE margin? Is that why ALL them pollsters mouths were hanging open when he won? I noticed you FAILED to rebuttal the fact that the same ones obstructing it, are on record FOR a barrier, some many times in past years. How in YOUR mind is it ok to NOW say NO wall, simply because it's Donald Trump wanting it? What's the real reason they dont want it, ALL OF A SUDDEN? Please enlighten me.
By mr_blue at 17,Jan,19 03:24 other posts of mr_blue 
hyper partisan politics is getting people nowhere...
Every media organisation has an agenda,it sells ad space...
Money has no political affiliation,it just greases the wheel..

Everyone is stuck in echo chambers rather than solving issues...

By kebmo at 17,Jan,19 03:58 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, where did you read me state in this thread that I thought that building a wall was a bad idea?
Where did you read me state in this thread that the American people don't want a wall built?
I thought that how I feel about this situation was quite clear to any literate, English speaking person who actually took the time to read what I wrote. Perhaps if you go back and read what I said in this thread you might be better qualified to opine on how I feel about this issue.
By Scorps at 17,Jan,19 14:00 other posts of Scorps 
Perhaps YOU, should go back and read!

I didn't once say it was YOUR opinion, views, thoughts, stance, or nothing of the like. Where did you glean that from? To be honest, everyone is entitled to an opinion, whatever yours may be.

Next... Where did you state that the American people don't want a wall built?

Ok, I will concede that I drew a conclusion from a rather bland statement made by YOU! "The American electorate has spoken." Your words! That's the WHOLE reason why I bothered to respond, at all.

Since your insinuating that I extrapolated the wrong conclusion from your statement, I apologize! Now, please delight me with your acumen in a more concise manner as to what you meant by, "The American electorate has spoken." 🤔
By phart at 17,Jan,19 18:24 other posts of phart 
Well All I can say is this.I got a good laugh today.
Nancy and her Democrat sheeples were going to board a military aircraft and go on a 7 day public relations tour at taxpayer exspense. Trump sent word and post poned the trip in his letter explaining that he would prefer her to stay in Washington and work out the problems instead of leaving. BUT IF She wanted to go on her "vacation" may as well say, she was welcome to fly commecial!

Now,that trip would have put them out of the country during the second pay period the employees have not been paid,that would put them out of the country so their enemys and friends alike could not implore them to work torwards a solution.ALL ON OUR DIME.just as all ways but this time with more more important folks waiting for a pay check.Makes normal folks wonder if the Dems really care about the people or themselves.
WHich by the way I think Trump signed some papers this morning to get them their back pay.
By Scorps at 17,Jan,19 18:45 other posts of Scorps 
He, Keb, was attempting to show the contrast between the funding of government workers and the wall as having nothing to do with one another. The part he fails to realize is that, 90% or greater of ALL funding legislation has a ton of shit included that has nothing to do with one another. So... Since that appears to be the norm in Washington. It makes NO difference whether he does it now or with another spending bill. Some of those affected by this shut down, (border patrol agents), stood/stand in solidarity with the President about his decision. I'm sure it's not all, nevertheless a lot do and did. IF I were affected by this shut down in ANY way. I would still stand by him as he is right to do so. They are nothing more than obstructionist and instead of bashing JUST him they are just as fucking bashworthy and equally as stupid.

By JustWill at 17,Jan,19 18:26 other posts of JustWill 
I am an "American People", and I don't want a wall...
By phart at 17,Jan,19 20:46 other posts of phart 
Just Will,if folks would simply respect our country and our laws and come in legaly by whatever means,most of us would rather feed the poor or fix our roads or upgrade our power grid to support the millenionals little electric scooters and cars with those billions. But there is another hoard of people headed this way as I type and they are hoping their numbers are so great they can STORM over the border and run.

It is not a matter of "wanting" a wall,it is a matter of we see the need for something drastic to be done to fix a problem.

By kebmo at 17,Jan,19 04:04 other posts of kebmo 
"Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right."
-Ricky Gervais

By Scorps at 17,Jan,19 03:05 other posts of Scorps 
How about that Theresa May!!
By mr_blue at 17,Jan,19 03:11 other posts of mr_blue 
what about her ?

By phart at 28,Sep,18 15:04 other posts of phart 
I also wanted to ask about a couple other things related to the Kavanaugh hearing.
IF we as a country really agree that we want what is best,why are we not working towards that goal?
Has anyone but me noticed the age of everyone involved when things supposedly happened? 15 and 17. Now,if the liberals really gave a shit about justice, why are they not going after the 1's providing the alcohol that allowed these youngan's to get drunk in the first place?
They facilitated the conditions for which the males became drunk,and the girls became victims.There should be some responsibility and punishment for those that made the conditions ripe for this all to be possible.Just as it would be today.It is against the law to buy and or provide alcohol to a person to young to buy it on their own.
Now,please,don't come up and say,"oh it has been to long since that happened,you couldn't possibly think those folks remember providing liquor for those k1ds." Well if you were to say that,I would respond,"is it not convenient that other issues such as the attempt to remove a shirt remembered so vividly?"

Also,were where the parents of the young lady when she went to this party,and then home soused out and dragging? She was ****,drunk and distraught,yet her parents apparently did nothing to find out why? IF she was 18,yea she would be on her own,but at 15 her parents were liable and responsible for her.If she is telling the truth,they allowed their daughter to suffer.Question,was it right for them to do that?

And if he is guilty or even if he was just out drinking, where were his parents,letting him be out and drunk? Parents are supposed to responsible for their k1ds and make sure they behave.
By #562152 at 28,Sep,18 15:33
All good questions,,,i'm not sure about her family but, he came from an entitled family,,money there,,,he was probably a spoiled brat and able to get alcohol and other things
By phart at 28,Sep,18 15:41 other posts of phart 
I can agree with that.
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EDIT, have you noticed once someone posted serious questions meant to get to the core and center of the problem at hand,no one but you responded? Makes me think perhaps you Two warm are the only other person here capable of thinking for yourself and having some brains!.
By mr_blue at 30,Sep,18 16:22 other posts of mr_blue 
What serious questions have you posted ?
What exactly is the problem at hand that you talk about?
By phart at 01,Oct,18 10:10 other posts of phart 
Read it,this lady is claiming they were at a party,DRUNK while 15 and 17 years old. The questions legitimately ask, How did these teens get the alcohol and who provided it and where were their parents in all this?
The only concern that is being brought up by the libs is he supposedly tried to remove her shirt while drunk and laughing.
BOTH were TO young to have access to alcohol in the first place but that does not seem to be a concern. WHY??:??

BESIDES,the actions be claimed by the Ford lady happened when both were minor's. That to me means their PARENTS should be the 1's being held responsible for their actions.We all know that can't happen and will not. Not really logical.But the point is,alot of lousy parenting going on then for sure.
By JustWill at 01,Oct,18 16:29 other posts of JustWill 
EVERY argument you have made has been about putting the blame on anyone and anything EXCEPT Kavanaugh.
It was the beer, blame the parents, he was just a young boy, why was she there, it's the Dems, etc.
As a judge, he is responsible for holding people accountable.
How can he do that fairly if he doesn't hold himself accountable?

By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 17:41
phart, what I've noticed is that the forums are no longer as popular to post serious questions. We have a crap load of gay forums and silly threads. And, yes, I've noticed that many times the answers are not given. I have a theory about that. I believe there's a group in these forums that have a private GROUP and there they agree to ignore certain members that either give them an opposing view or maybe don't like the usual subjects these members post
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however, I agree with JustWill,,the one and only person that should be held responsible for this antisocial behavior, is Judge Kavanaugh. I believed Dr Ford, but, there's no proof it's true yet. But a judge has to be held to a higher standard. If there's even a hint of bad behavior he should not be voted to the Supreme Court.
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 19:00 other posts of mr_blue 
I think some people like to gossip and see things that aren't there ,then post anything to get the slightest bit of attention..
I see a lot of people here say one thing but do another..
Which group are you talking about ?
And does anyone really care anyway...?
If you dish it out you gotta take what comes back...
And people really wanted to ignore someone, there's a blacklist option
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 19:12
i hear you Mr Blue. I don't know what group. Do you? Also, am I one of those people that should accept the dishing out? Blacklisting is for really serious occasions and for cowards that can't face an opposing point of view or opinion. I believe you are accusing me of gossiping about thing that are not true (as you see it). I truly believe what i wrote above. Should i keep it inside because other people don't believe it? This is your forum thread. You "paid" your 15 points. So, allow me to apologize. I wouldn't want you to get heated up. And, BTW, no,,i really don't care either. I found that there's the forums where i have a funny reputation,,and then there's the popularity of my page, pics, and my chats (friendly chats) with many friends and others. But, here, in the chats, there's always one with a "blue" personality,
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 19:35 other posts of mr_blue 
being famous on the internet is like being rich in monopoly...
It's all good,I will just lmfao as usual....
And all this I have more friends, popularity stuff is so highsch00l....but anyway,I'll just fuck off and feel blue....

By phart at 01,Oct,18 19:01 other posts of phart 
Ok,so if he holds himself accountable, it is ok for everyone else to forget about their part in it and move along? Eh,can't agree with that.'If there is to be equality and justice FOR ALL, then ALL should be held to the same level of accountability. Not just the 1's it is convenient for a particular political party.
So Yes,he would be responsible for holding others accountable.How can he do that fairly and without bias when the system can not even handle his situation to the same standard?
A hint of bad behavior? Hell,we would not have a government or a justice system if we held everyone accountable for being young, dumb, and full of cum would we? There are very few saints willing to run for office or to be appointed to positions.. And uh, we all know the Catholics are having trouble keeping their pants up so that kinda boots them out!
And yes I agree with your theory. But why would they hang a opposing view out there and never defend it or accept the possibility you are looking at it the wrong way? I guess just to annoy people. Which in turn, helps to undermine the credibility of people that bear the same view point they do.Very non productive.
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 19:14
phart,,a few saints is all it takes. Look, i can't follow you here anymore, if you want to continue this conversation, lets do it in my forum where people can say what they want,
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 19:31 other posts of mr_blue 
So you are saying that people cannot say what they like in my thread?

I think most people know that I go straight to the issue at hand and say what I need to to that person directly, whether that be in pm or public...
So if you have something to say to me,I suggest you get it off your chest and leave no illusions as to who you are talking about and to...thank you
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 19:41
WHEN I DO I AM ACCUSED OF BEING EITHER NEGATIVE OR NASTY,,BUT,,SINCE YOU'VE ASKED, YES, I MEANT YOU AS PART OF THE PROBLEM, crap,,,sorry about the caps,,i'm not shouting at you, but,,i think i don't need to explain myself, You are one of many (in my humble opinion,,i may be wrong). Anyway, i just posted a new blog. I am tired of complaining to just one person at a time so i just made it PUBLIC knowledge how i feel. Feel free to comment if you like or don't like what i said. And FYI,, i answered your post because it shows up on my page and i believe it's good manners to do so ,,
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 19:55 other posts of mr_blue 
Who specifically are you talking about ?
And you do need to explain how I'm the problem ?
Just because you post in my thread doesn't mean I automatically assume the comment is for me..
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 20:29
It's funny that you say you tell it to people's face but you hide behind unbeguity
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 20:46 other posts of mr_blue 
..I asked you to name names...and you haven't... that's a bit ambiguous on your part,....
What exactly is the problem you have with me ?
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 21:14
I think some people like to gossip and see things that aren't there ,then post anything to get the slightest bit of attention

You posted this tonight. That was a direct answer to my post to Mr phart. This was also said to me on another forum a few weeks ago. I'm accused of trying to get attention. You post something and it's the honest truth, I post something and it's to get attention.
And don't think you're that special. I'm not singling you out. You are just the latest to make me feel like this. Since you already know I'll name you, Mr Blue. But you have company
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 21:54 other posts of mr_blue 
Was that a reply to your comment ? I believe it was....was it directed at you,no it wasn't...
It was a generalisation,given how things happen here, it's a fair assumption to make...

But while we are here...
This is for you(TWOWARMTTS2),why the need to post the same comments in multiple threads ? If not to get attention ?
And I haven't said you're not honest,I just think it's a bit needy myself...
It's like your annoyed that people haven't replied the instant you post,we can't all live onsite....maybe you could get some of your friends to join in the forums?
And I don't think I am anything special... I'm just an average guy on the internet posting his junk and opinions...much like many others..
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 22:36
You are wrong. I don't expect answers immediately. I never did. And posting in multiple threads is because I want to reach a bigger crowd. Your thread is limited in popularity and I wanted to know what many people thought about my theory. Now,see? You just thought I am a bit needy. Your reaction to my post bothered you and I'm needy, but your reaction,,,,well,,,,that's ok. You don't gossip, you always say the right thing. And, you just waisted 2 hrs trying to tell me I'm a gossip monger that likes the attention. Right
By mr_blue at 02,Oct,18 06:40 other posts of mr_blue 
Only I can decide if it was a waste of my time...
And yes I do think you're needy,all the stuff about who is more popular that you post is needy behaviour...
We all want a bit of attention in life,I guess some need more than others..
By #562152 at 02,Oct,18 07:33
Boy,you are really fixated on this "who is more popular" thing, aren't you. I mentioned that to ilustrate that I don't need to show off in the forums, but, like many on site that want to be king of the site, or queen dick, you fixated on that instead of what I was trying to say. Ok, if you want to think I'm needy, so be it. I think you are a male chauvinist pig with a "I'm superior than you "attitude and a chip on your shoulder when it comes to women that open their mouth. You must be a lonely man. That was my way of wanting a little bit of attention.

By mr_blue at 01,Oct,18 19:28 other posts of mr_blue 
Who is responsible for Brett Kavanaugh ? He is..
Who is responsible for Trump ? He is..
People are, and should be accountable for their actions..
That's what justice is...I can't really explain it any simpler..
Kavanaugh is supposed to be beyond reproach regardless of his political view..
Shouldn't a murderer get justice if they committed a crime 30 years ago ? Of course they should...
What difference does the time frame have to do with it?
You really seem to miss the point...
By phart at 01,Oct,18 19:58 other posts of phart 
Just as you seem to miss the point.
No offense taken,by the way.
Time frame has alot to do with evidence availability.
A murder has a dead body most of the time and evidence collected from it in storage.So a time frame is less damaging to future work. No evidence was collected in the attempted shirt removal and all the folks were drunk,so is their testimony going to be honest memory or politically motivated depending on who they support? How will we know now?
Even with evidence in the Clinton impeachment,a stained dress, they still didn't get him out.

Let me retype from memory here.

Freedom and Justice for All.
If I aint bad mistaken that is in our Pledge of Allegiance to our flag.
The justice part applys to EVERY CITIZEN of the USA.
Including Kavahaugh.Including all the others that contributed to the events that supposedly happened.

If you rob a bank and your girlfriend drives the getaway car, she is supposed to be charged with a crime.
If you buy beer for a **** person,you are supposed to be charged with a crime. Justice as you said,people are supposed to be held accountable.
I am asking why all the other people in the background of this charade are not being held accountable.Strangely it seems it is all for the political motives of the Democrats at the moment.Only Kavanaugh is being held accountable,only his balls are being strung up. There are others that should be right along there with him if a crime was committed.

By #573189 at 07,Dec,18 17:54
The whole Kavanaugh thing is a farce. I mean gotta be kidding me.The poor girl is used now to compromise a man who is competent ,successful and prominent. Nobody will ever know what happened 36 years ago. And thats it. period.

By mr_blue at 02,Dec,18 20:01 other posts of mr_blue 
Anyone see the Wilder V Fury fight ?
By phart at 03,Dec,18 17:27 other posts of phart 
why did they fight? what happened? Who are they?
By Scorps at 03,Dec,18 17:33 other posts of Scorps 
Yeah! What he ⬆️ said...

By mr_blue at 03,Dec,18 17:40 other posts of mr_blue 
Heavyweight boxing
By phart at 04,Dec,18 10:19 other posts of phart 
oh ok,sorry,I didn't know.

By mr_blue at 03,Dec,18 22:08 other posts of mr_blue 
Keep throwing the comments in my thread,all are much fun to be had...

By #562152 at 03,Dec,18 22:06
Don’t Go Away Mad (Just Go Away)
Mötley Crüe
We could sail away
Or catch a freight train
Or a rocket ship into outer space
Nothin' left to do
Too many things were said
To ever make it feel
Like yesterday did
Seasons must change
Separate paths, separate ways
If we blame it on anything
Let's blame it on the rain
I knew it all along
I'd have to write this song
Too young to fall in love
Guess we knew it all along
That's alright, that's okay
We were walkin' through some youth
Smilin' through pain
That's alright, that's okay
Let's turn the page
My friends called today
Down from L.A.
They were shooting pool all night
Sleeping half the day
They said I could crash
If I could find my own way
I told them you were leaving
On a bus to go away
That's alright, that's okay
We were two kids in love
Trying to find our way
That's alright, that's okay
Held our dreams in our hands
Let our minds run away
That's alright, that's okay
We were walkin' through some youth
Smilin' through some pain
That's alright, let's turn the page
And remember what I say girl
And it goes this way
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, just go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Now girl, just go away, (here it go)
Don't go way mad
I don't want you mad
Come on girl
Come on baby
I said one more time
Girl, don't go away mad (don't want you mad)
Girl, just go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, don't go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, just go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, just go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, just go away
Girl, don't go away mad
Girl, just go away

By #562152 at 03,Dec,18 21:51
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Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen, who was recently on the brink of losing her job, is now expected to survive the Cabinet shake-up President Donald Trump has spent weeks teasing — and she may have the caravan to thank.

On the verge of firing by a president who has said she isn’t a strong enough defender of the U.S.-Mexico border, Nielsen has adopted — and made sure to publicize — a tough stance in response to the caravan of Central American migrants headed toward the U.S. that Trump turned into a major midterm campaign issue. She has visited the southern border three times since October, and recently hailed Trump as a forceful “leader.”

The firm posture seems to have impressed her most important audience: the president.

Five sources inside and close to the administration describe a clear shift in the president’s feelings toward his DHS chief, about whom he has repeatedly complained over the past year. Her fate is of particular interest because, administration officials say, White House chief of staff John Kelly, a longtime Nielsen mentor and defender, could quickly follow her out the door in frustration.

Even some of her critics concede that Nielsen seems to have bought herself time with some savvy presentation.

By #562152 at 03,Dec,18 21:49
onald Trump has agreed not to escalate his trade war with China, but many other countries have also been affected by the US president's America First trade policy.

From Spanish olives to Canadian steel, no corner of the world has been untouched by US trade tariffs - a tax on foreign products - since President Trump entered the White House.

Along the way, he has rewritten the rule book for how the US goes about the process of protecting its domestic trade.

Trump and Xi: a temporary truce?
How are tariffs usually made?
A tariff is a tax on a foreign product designed to protect domestic producers in an effort to boost local economies.

But under international trade laws, the US can't just implement them willy-nilly, they need to provide a reason why the tariff is necessary and investigate it fully.

Until recently, the vast majority of US tariffs were justified as countervailing and antidumping duties.

Countervailing duties level the playing field when a foreign industry has been unfairly subsidised
Antidumping duties level the playing field when a foreign industry has been flooding the US market with its products
Not all investigations lead to tariffs - at some point during the process, the US may decide they don't have grounds to be implemented. But many do.

No stone unturned
Under President Trump, the Department of Commerce has begun 122 investigations into anti-dumping/countervailing duties.


These tariffs have targeted all corners of the globe, reaching 31 countries total and affecting some $12bn (£9.4bn) in imports.

China has borne the brunt of US scrutiny, with about 40% of countervailing/antidumping investigations targeting Chinese products ranging from aluminium alloy to rubber bands to silk ribbons.

Other countries have found themselves in Mr Trump's crosshairs as well.

After receiving a complaint from California farmers, the US levied tariffs on Spanish olives, arguing that EU payments to olive farmers under the Common Agricultural Policy (CAP) constituted an unfair trading subsidy.

Trade wars, Trump tariffs and protectionism explained
Most of the world's olives come from the Mediterranean, but in a meeting with Spanish Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy last September, Mr Trump signalled a willingness to protect American farmers.

"It must be fair," he said, describing the trade relationship between the US and Spain. "And it must be reciprocal."

That decision affects $68m of Spanish exports to the US and has raised the eyebrows of the EU.

As with Spain, the US has shown no qualms about going after traditional allies such as Canada.

The single largest investigation since Mr Trump took office focused on Canadian aircraft company Bombardier, and affected $5bn of Canadian exports to the US.

Eight months later, the US International Trade Commission found Canada's aircraft industry did not harm US businesses, and the 300% duties against the Bombardier C-Series were cancelled.

Although most tariff investigations targeted mundane industrial products, like carbon and steel wire or mechanical tubing, many could have a real impact on the US consumer.

A far-reaching investigation into citric acid touched three continents, with tariffs issued for Belgium, Columbia and Thailand. The chemical compound mimics the sour tang of lemons and is used in a large amount of common candies and drinks, from Sour Patch Kids to 7Up.

Another massive investigation into biodiesel from Argentina and Indonesia led to tariffs being issued on $1.5bn of imports. The fuel, which is made from plants, is used in diesel cars and lorries, as well as airplanes and trains. The market has huge growth potential in the US, which is a major grower of corn and soybeans, and the tariffs could ostensibly help grow the industry.

Similar tariffs were introduced by the EU in 2012.

Upping the stakes
Tariffs are nothing new.

Over the last decade, the US government collected approximately $283bn in customs duties.

But President Trump has led a charge for the US to get even more aggressive.

Last year, the Commerce Department began 82 probes - nearly double the 56 that Barack Obama's administration started in 2013, its most active year,

And in a significant change in protocol, officials are no longer waiting for companies to petition for help.

Last November, the Department of Commerce self-initiated investigations in Chinese common alloy aluminium.

It was the first time the department acted on its own regarding antidumping or countervailing duties, without a complaint from industry, in decades, and a sign of a shift in the department's policy under the new administration.

"[President Trump] isn't willing to wait for companies to come forward. He wants to do it himself, he wants to have the government decide," says Chad Bown, a senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics.

"So he starts self-initiating cases but also... he says we're going to start using other laws where there are much more presidential discretion."

But by far the biggest shift in US trade policy has been Trump's willingness to buck with tradition if it will let him get tariffs through faster.

Trump threatens to pull US out of World Trade Organization
Trump signs trade deal with Mexico and Canada
Rather than go through lengthy antidumping/countervailing investigations - and risk his tariffs being overturned - Trump has introduced hundreds of billions of tariffs under little-used aspects of trade law.

Citing national security concerns, Trump has taken sweeping actions to protect steel and aluminium producers and embarked on a trade war with China, which he accuses of intellectual property theft.

These unusual measures far outweigh traditional antidumping/countervailing investigations. In China alone, traditional investigations target $3.4bn of products, while tariffs retaliating against intellectual property theft target $250bn.

"You now see a lot more import protection that you would typically see arise," Bown says.

Will these stick?
Trump's willingness to think outside the box on trade has made him a thorn in the side of countries like China who can't predict his next move.

They have also led to retaliatory tariffs on hundreds billions of dollars of US goods.

But after a summer of hostile trade negotiations with Canada and Mexico, and an escalating trade war with China, things seem to be calming down.

Last week, he signed United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement to replace the North American Free Trade Agreement (Nafta). The agreement signalled the end of a long and tense saga between the three neighbours.

He also seems keen to end his trade war with China.

But if Trump's past actions have taught anyone anything, it is that the only thing predictable about his trade policy is its unpredictability.

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By -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- at 23,Oct,18 10:05 other posts of -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- 
The world is fucked - hyper-conservative governments world-wide; no respect for the environment; no real attempt to help people/countries who actually need it.
I'm so sick of hearing about Trump the frump, North Korea, Russia (even though they keep fucking my Ukrainian bretheren), China, etc etc etc.
How about we all dedicate sometime to doing something for the indigenous people from our own country and protecting Africa, South America and the Middle-East from the systemic shit that they go through every day!!!
By #562152 at 09,Nov,18 12:11
Port-a-pottys with message on wall. Political diarrea dump station.
By -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- at 11,Nov,18 03:08 other posts of -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- 
By phart at 13,Nov,18 20:26 other posts of phart 
What does a Mexican soup kitchen,"porta potty" have to do with what he said?
By #562152 at 17,Nov,18 14:20
Trump is a lying piece of shit that belongs in a port-a-potty. I propose we label the potty "political diarrhea dump station". He and his minions have fucked up the USA so badly it will take 50 yrs to fix.

By mr_blue at 12,Nov,18 16:28 other posts of mr_blue 
RIP Stan Lee.
By JustWill at 12,Nov,18 17:16 other posts of JustWill 
Stan Lee was one of my all time heroes!
As a certified comic book geek, his passing stabs my heart in a major way.
Excelsior!, Mr. Lee!

By leopoldij at 21,Oct,18 06:18 other posts of leopoldij 
Trump has once again made himself look like a fool when he first supported the Saudis who refused that their journalist was killed.
(They chopped the poor guy up, apparently while he was alive mind you...)
Trump said he won't criticize or blame the Saudi dictatorship because they buy billions of dollars of "things" from Amerika.

It turns out that he was killed, as the Saudi dictators admitted. And then Trump changed his speech slightly.

When (and if) it'll be proved what actually happened, Trump will say "I just had fake news".

It's really amazing how the US supports one of the worst dictatorships in the world, Saudi Arabia, while, at the same time, they're very critical of the other equally terrible dictatorship, North Korea.
By phart at 21,Oct,18 08:49 other posts of phart 
All we have ever been to the Saudi's is a cheap pol1ce farce and oil customers.Yet our country has considered them allies because they have not directly bombed us.
I can't say Trump was a fool initially,because we are conditioned to think they are our allies and you are "supposed " to be able to trust your friends. But I will agree he should have held back any comments until further study was done. When the consulate had to repaint the damn walls,that tells me somebody got chopped up and I am not in government!
By leopoldij at 21,Oct,18 09:05 other posts of leopoldij 
I agree with your latter comments.
But I disagree with the statement
"our country has considered them allies because they have not directly bombed us".
This is naive. The Soviet Union never bombed the US and yet they were not allies.

The reason that the US is allies with Saudi Arabia is money, money, money and oil, oil, oil. It's really disgusting to be friends with a ruthless dictatorship. If the US wanted, they would have "instituted democracy" in Saudi Arabia (as they have "instituted democracy" in Chile, for example). But it's not about democracy or not. It's just about money. The very existence of the alliance between the US and Saudi Arabia enables the US to print dollars any time the US feels like it. (When the economy is down, the US prints ad hoc money and distributes to banks.) It's a really really really really dirty game and you're a victim in it too.
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Of course, the alliance and support of dictatorships has nothing to do with Trump. The other party does the same, often in worse ways.

By #525562 at 21,Oct,18 11:21
I am disregarding the first two or three paragraphs but you do draw light to a multi decade problem in tour last paragraph.

let people do what they see as important and the problem will all go extinct.
By leopoldij at 21,Oct,18 11:32 other posts of leopoldij 
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Can you please explain? How will the problem be solved? Or is the full and unconditional support of a dictatorship, one that funds terrorism, not a problem?
By #525562 at 21,Oct,18 11:50
As I said you draw light to a multi decade problem and how the problem can be solved is by boycotting all oil products and that will never happen.
By #562152 at 09,Nov,18 15:06
The USA has done business with a multitude of dictatorships. Some where real monsters. But, all countries do it.

By kebmo at 21,Oct,18 02:17 other posts of kebmo 
I don't understand why about 700,000 people marched on Oct 20/18 thinking that the Brexit Referendum should be redone. It was a legitimate vote, 72.2% of the electorate voted and the results were 51.9% voted to leave the EU and 48.1% voted to stay in the EU.
It's a done deal and just because "your side" didn't win doesn't mean that you should protest to have a do over.
Is that all factual information or is there something I'm missing?
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By Wanky-doodle at 21,Oct,18 04:41 other posts of Wanky-doodle 
I think it's because it's such a fucking shambles, not orgAnisation or direction from the government. I voted to stay, I accepted that we lost the vote but when it's cleAr that we lost because of lies and selfishness and that no one has a plan to leave, not even the brexiteers, it makes me want another vote
By mr_blue at 22,Oct,18 14:22 other posts of mr_blue 
Lies that comes from both sides....
There was no plan in place to leave the EU simply because no one thought that Britain would vote to leave..
By kebmo at 22,Oct,18 15:14 other posts of kebmo 
SURPRISE! All elections are full of lies. Now it has to be dealt with. Not through a redo because people who's side lost are demonstrating but through diplomacy and legal channels.
As far as I know, nothing iliegal happened so the results stand.
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Quebec, a province of Canada, held a provincial referendum in 1995. The province voted on whether Quebec should leave Canada and become it's own country.

93.52% of registered voters voted.
49.42% voted to leave Canada (the separatists) and 50.58% (the sovereigntists) voted to stay in Canada.
Quebec is still a part of Canada and the separatists have faded into the woodwork.

Life will move on in Britain.
By mr_blue at 22,Oct,18 15:39 other posts of mr_blue 
I should probably put United Kingdom instead of Britain..
By phart at 23,Oct,18 10:45 other posts of phart 
I think once the bugs get worked out,Britain will be a better country for their actions.They will have MUCH better control of their immigration, their industry and economy.Things that each country's citizens should have a say in,not people from 3 countries over to the right or under.
The EU is a big step in the 1 world government direction. And that is Not in the best interest of the people.

By #525562 at 21,Oct,18 11:41
What's poppin...Look around and do things to help.
If you post here again without helping then you are an asshole,myself included.
By phart at 21,Oct,18 13:42 other posts of phart 
If you can't help others,at least don't hinder them in their quest.
I would still be considered a asshole by some folks here and in the real world even if I saved a bus load of k1ds from going over a cliff.

By phart at 21,Oct,18 08:45 other posts of phart 
Well the witch hunters have joined the Witches to try to upset the supreme court!

Melissa Madara was not surprised to receive death threats on Friday as her Brooklyn witchcraft store prepared to host a public hexing of newly confirmed U.S. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh this weekend.

I thought I had read it all when Kleenex had to change the name on their large tissues because "Mansize" offended some folks. Whiners are costing this country millions of dollars to no useful end.

By mr_blue at 26,Sep,18 13:42 other posts of mr_blue 
So trump got laughed at,by some UN delegates,and says China is trying to meddle in the mid terms....
By phart at 26,Sep,18 14:10 other posts of phart 
Yea, that Iran dude said we couldn't hear the laughter from a distance. If they were right beside me my response to their laughter would be the same as it is now. Fuck em.
By mr_blue at 26,Sep,18 14:14 other posts of mr_blue 

Ignorance is bliss...

By #562152 at 27,Sep,18 10:45
Laughter is the normal reaction to the antiques of a clown
By kebmo at 27,Sep,18 19:09 other posts of kebmo 
When the Republicans loose in the midterms Trump will go around yelling that it's because the Chinese were meddling in the election just like he warned Americans.
Of course the Russians are still his best buddies.
By #562152 at 27,Sep,18 19:26
If only he could have gotten his space f o r c e up, it would not have happened? ?
By phart at 28,Sep,18 11:49 other posts of phart 
Would someone consider for just 1 moment how much could have been done to America's benefit had the dems accepted the loss and focused on solutions to problems instead of spending the last 2 years trying to derail Trump?

Frankly, the dems and repubs spend all their time fighting each other instead of solving issues.They resist a solution,simply because of it's creator,not because it won't work.
By #562152 at 28,Sep,18 12:19
phart,,you are right in your premise,,,but there are two things to consider. The first is that both parties are very opposed to each others ideas. There's no middle of the road ideas coming through,,,no compromises. And that's because, even in the same party makeup, there's too much infighting, there's the rabid right or left winger,,,the middle of the road clique and the ones there to enrich their pockets. The other is that, people in government forgot, on both parties, that they were elected to work for us, the citizens. All they want is to see a small portion of the electorate to profit and fuck the rest. And b4 you think i'm talking about one party,,I'm not. They are all a bunch of cowards that can't put their feelings aside and work for the good of the country. In my opinion, we have a terrible president, but, Congress is there to keep the legislative branch in check. I think a senator said it best yesterday, "we have become a branch of the White House"

By Wanky-doodle at 21,Oct,18 04:44 other posts of Wanky-doodle 
Your point about them just arguing and never getting anything done is very valid but with Fart in office nothing was ever gonna get done

By phart at 06,Oct,18 16:37 other posts of phart 
WELL the circus regarding the supreme court is finally over.
I wonder where George Soros will put his money next to try to fuck up something? His money paying those women to come forward didn't work.I bet he is peod.

Remember, he that throws dirt looses ground. The dems threw dirt,they lost ground.Now ,if we can just make it thru the movember election without them making a 3 ring circus of it would be wonderful.
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 18:54
Yeah, the nomination of a Supreme Court justice is such a circus.

By Skittles at 13,Oct,18 15:57 other posts of Skittles 
I have Soros in my death poll again this year
By phart at 13,Oct,18 18:13 other posts of phart 
Well the last interview I read online that he did ,it said he was putting the remainder of his billions into the organization he uses to for lack of better word,screw things up. Even after he is gone,he will still be steering this world off the deep end. He had bankrupted 2 countrys already before he set his sites on America.He is truly a enemy to the free world.
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By Skittles at 14,Oct,18 17:16 other posts of Skittles 
Agree... he's a subversive agent for sure!

How he as evaded the Logan Act is a mystery.

By onthelose at 02,Oct,18 00:19 other posts of onthelose 
Cant corroborate this but I read that she was a very troubled teen and her parents shipped her off to California to get her away from bad influences. True or not this women is very disturbed and cant remember things that happened recently that are related to her current predicament. How then is she to be believed for something that happened 36 years ago. Also her parents were before Brett's mother, a judge, in a legal matter that didn't go to well. Also un corroborated, but if true could account for her sudden speaking up about an alleged attack that NONE of her friends ever heard about.
By mr_blue at 03,Oct,18 06:29 other posts of mr_blue 
Who was a troubled teen ?

By kebmo at 03,Oct,18 06:56 other posts of kebmo 
Where did you read it?
By phart at 03,Oct,18 11:46 other posts of phart 
It is in the news,not that news,the other news. Anyway,it is out there if you want to read about it and actually consider a alternative to the Trump bashing.
The legal matter you speak of actually did go in favor of the Fords but there is a tale about it not going right.I posted the link on another thread.
Shipped off to California to get her away from BAD influences? That is like a canniable putting you in his wok instead of his cast iron pot!
By mr_blue at 04,Oct,18 01:52 other posts of mr_blue 
I do find it funny that people expect trump to change..
But Kavanaugh is not the right person for that job...
Thing I have noticed is that both sides are just wanting a win at any cost..
That is the problem... democrats are shitty for the way they treated Ford initially,and the way her allegation became public...but at the same time,the background check on Kavanaugh was clearly flawed...

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By #562152 at 05,Oct,18 11:32
I don't know if your information is true, but, if she was almost r_aped at the age of 15, that would be traumatic enough to color the rest of her teen years and the rest of her life. Grown, stable women go to pieces when they get r_aped, a c_hild would be a lot worse. And, what did she do that was so wrong? She said that she is a victim? I wonder what you would do and say if some priest fucked your ass 30 yrs ago and now he's going to be made the city's cardinal?? Or, if you knew someone was going to become president and he had grabbed your snatch without consent?
By phart at 06,Oct,18 11:22 other posts of phart 
"And, what did she do that was so wrong? "
Well, let me see,
1, She was only 15 and drinking alcohol which is ****.
2, She was at a party without adult supervision and I doubt permission.
3, She ,by attending the party, willingly put herself in harms way by getting drunk around a bunch of horny males. There is no way in hell she attended that party not knowing drinking and sexual activity was possible and probable.
4, She did not report the situation promptly to officials or parents,thus making proof and justice all but impossible.

If I come up with anything else I will edit,
BUT Let me also say, Kavanough is guilty of the same crap if he was at the party and these events happened.
1,HE was also drinking alcohol illegally.
2, HE was at a party **** with no adult supervision or permission,
3,HE willingly put himself in a position of temptation being he was horny and there was females around.He used poor judgement and let himself get out of control.
4, HE also failed to let family or officials know that a female may be accusing him of a crime and they need to investigate to prevent a rumor from spreading or prevent her from attempting suic1de or whatever.
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 11:46
And again,,you are blaming the victim for her "inappropriate behavior. Even if she was the biggest whore who flaunted her tits at him and fucked his friend in front of him, he still did not have the right to even touch her. And how many people who's car window get broken and their stuff from inside get stolen don;t report it because they know the cops won't even investigate?
By phart at 06,Oct,18 14:37 other posts of phart 
It is not meant to be blame,it is meant to show she is partly responsible.Blame is unfounded accusation. Had she not went to a drinking party with a bunch of horny guys she would not have been touched.
If I walk into a biker bar wearing a Hillary shirt,and I get my ass whipped like a red headed step ****,it was partly my fault for walking my ass in there to start with.

In this situation, she was not in a safe place like her home,a public place like a park.She was at a party,where drinking and sex were going on.She could have walked out the door when she saw what was going on. But did she?
Where was her parents when it came time to teach her right from wrong and how to protect herself? Out fucking around like they let her do I guess.

I know,it is all the man's fault for having 2 heads and getting drunk and letting the little guide him.
The woman does not have to do anything but say "No" in a whisper as she gets all wet and horny as she may like dominant men that take what they want.Oh, there is only a limited number of those men and they are all married with 5 k1ds.
The only single men out there are all rap1st and murderers

In 20 years, the few women that may still have a desire for a penis in their bedroom will have to beg and plead a man to sign a contract guaranteeing his safety before they can get the sex they want.
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 16:43
She is not partly responsible. Why is it so hard for you to understand?
By phart at 06,Oct,18 18:16 other posts of phart 
I guess it is because no one made her go to the party,no one but her decided to put herself in that situation.
It is hard for me to understand because when I do something stupid I always get held accountable.Why would she,a 15 year old,not be held accountable for breaking the law? I know,R@pe is not the same as drinking,but a crime is a crime.
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 18:53
And no one asked her to be born. Why don't we lock her up in a mental institution. Imagine, being a teenager
By phart at 13,Oct,18 18:16 other posts of phart 
Why is it is ok for people to knowingly put themselves in harms way and wonder why something happened to them? Has personal responsabilty went out with the Dodo bird?

On a side note,regardless of anything else, I sure do wish the democrats were held responsable for using Ford like a pawn in their politcial game. She had nothing to gain by coming out and they used her like a dishrag and tossed her out.

By phart at 01,Oct,18 20:45 other posts of phart 
Had I said this weasel was involved,I woulda been right.

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Now,how much of the story we are hearing is bought and paid for,and how much is real?
HUM. Maby Trump was smart to approve the FBI thing after-all. Maby it will bring this weasel out in the open a bit!

By phart at 28,Sep,18 12:23 other posts of phart 
I have a quick question or 2.
If a person is falsely accused of a crime.Say r@pe. What evidence do most of you consider credible?
How long is that evidence credible? How long does the evidence exist?
Apparently,as we have seen in the Kavanaugh hearing, the accused testimony,means nothing to the liberal side of the isle. The libs are ready to just hang a guy without any evidence before them but peoples words.Sadly this case is peoples choice of lifestyles during their youth is catching up to them. what was fun and a good time then is suddenly and conveniently a crime.

Sadly in this day and age a persons word is not acceptable by most people. People lie thru their teeth and get by every day.

Witch hunts on anyone are wrong.But yet,there does not seem to be a credible piece of evidence a accused person can use to defend themselves against a liberal agenda.

Help me out here,you all think I am a asshole but I am trying to understand this, this used to be a country that the person is innocent until PROVEN guilty. When did that change and witch hunting methods become acceptable?
This trend means ANYONE that tries to better themselves is subject to be brought down to the ground for something they never did because no evidence of any kind they present to protect themselves is acceptable by the liberal agenda.
By #562152 at 28,Sep,18 14:57
You are confusing a trial by jury with a story telling person's credibility. In one you have to present facts, evidence and then 12 just and true jurors make a decision based on that and not their beliefs. I assume you are asking because of the circus we watched yesterday. That was two people telling a story. It may have been true for one or both, but, there was no evidence one way or another. That makes it a contest of skill in telling a story and what individual people are willing to believe. That is why a full investigation by a branch of the justice department (FBI) is so important
By phart at 28,Sep,18 15:19 other posts of phart 
Ok,I can confess,perhaps I am looking at it as the senate being a jury so to speak.

By mr_blue at 20,Sep,18 22:06 other posts of mr_blue 
A Canadian company has been public since July, it's now worth 20 billion dollars (US)

I wonder if trump will order tariffs....

Anyone guess what the Canadian company does?
You probably saw it on the fake news networks...
By kebmo at 20,Sep,18 22:13 other posts of kebmo 
Tilray! They sell pot and will be selling medical marijuana in the US pretty soon. They are also big in the Canadian market. Pot will be legal everywhere in Canada on October 17th.

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By phart at 21,Sep,18 11:49 other posts of phart 
I want to know how people are going to smoke pot and keep their jobs.Commercial truck drivers can't test positive for the stuff and you are considered impaired when and after using it. Alot of unanswered questions about legal pot for sure.
those folks getting rich off it, are they going to help the unemployed?
By kebmo at 21,Sep,18 14:26 other posts of kebmo 
People will smoke pot and keep their jobs in the same way people drink liquor and keep their jobs. Do commercial truck drivers refrain from drinking liquor during their down time? The pot will be taxed by the government and the taxes will benefit Canadians as a whole instead of making pot dealers rich. The legalisation of pot is expected to create about a million of legal, tax paying jobs within the next ten years in Canada.

Legallsed pot is a multibillion dollar business in Canada. Medical pot has been chipping away at the iligal business for years and now the Canadian government will just wrest control from all the pot dealers and control it just it controls liquor.
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By phart at 21,Sep,18 15:54 other posts of phart 
I can understand what you are saying that yes,people drink and work.It does seem that pot stays in the system a bit longer.I remember having to drive a couple coworkers home because they were fired after a **** test.And pot is what was in their system. Alchol seems to leave a bit quicker.

I can also see a domino effect here. Pot could be and is considered a entry level ****,that after a while it is not enough. So will Crack or Heroin be next on the legal list?
By kebmo at 21,Sep,18 16:14 other posts of kebmo 
Does having sex with your wife lead to r@pe?
By phart at 21,Sep,18 18:05 other posts of phart 
not for normal people.
folks with good self control are blessed.

By Skittles at 08,Jul,18 22:06 other posts of Skittles 
Blue, what's up cunty??

By mr_blue at 04,Jul,18 02:58 other posts of mr_blue 
Happy Independence day to the Americans
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Get over here so we can get drunk and blow shit up...
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By jayman73 at 07,Jul,18 23:52 other posts of jayman73 
Yes, a great American tradition.

By mr_blue at 07,Jul,18 18:41 other posts of mr_blue 
Congrats to England football team

Also Croatia,France and Belgium..
Semi-finalists in the World Cup....
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Cheers, b.rother

By kebmo at 05,Jul,18 00:02 other posts of kebmo 
If you work in the tourism industry in the US and count on Canadian tourists for much of your income, don't expect nearly as many in the next year.
There is a movement underway in Canada to encourage Canadian tourists to see Canada this summer and to plan on going south of the US this winter. Do not go to the US is the message.
Of course you can thank Donald Trump for this. His tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum are a slap in the face to your country's best friend and we're pissed off!
Only one idiot in the world would think that Canada is a threat to US security!
Of course he doesn't really think this, he's a thug and a bully and these are his tactics.
To be clear, we are not mad at the American public, we are mad at the one person who initiated this.
Canada's $16.6 Billion dollars of retaliatory tariffs on US products are aimed directly at products made in Republican voter's geographic areas.
If you suffer because of this, please understand that it's not a personal issue between you and I, it's an issue between the Canadian government and the US government.
The sad part is that he's very powerful but be sure that Canada won't be bitch slapped by our closest neighbour, best friend and biggest trading partner and not reply.
By #556372 at 05,Jul,18 04:47
By phart at 05,Jul,18 12:21 other posts of phart 
The American people don't hat# you folks either.
The idea is to get you to spend as much money on our products as we do yours to keep the playing field level.Apparently you all send more here and buy less from us. Thus tilting the scales of economics.
As for me personally, I can't see why we need steel or anything else from Canada.We have our own mills and mines,and oil wells.IF the friggen EPA would get their noses out of everything and let OUR people go back to work in those facility's.
Sit back and think for a minute. Why is it that we have been bringing in metals and oil from your country,thus draining your natural resources for future generations? Could it be your government lets your neighbors work in less than safe conditions? Lower pay? Perhaps your air is dirtier than you are being told. That is the case in China without a doubt.
For your metal to be cheaper to import than we can produce it ourselves indicates more than a trade imbalance. The tariffs may actually be a good thing for your people.It will put your government in a position to sit down and rethink things for the greater good of your country.Think future,not the "now".

We will adapt,improvise and move forward with or without the support of others.
Compare this to surgery to remove a painful tumor. Yes there will be side effects for the short term. Expense,unemployment.But once things settle and company's regroup their resources,it will mean more jobs for our people and a greater level of independence and security.
In reference to importing from china our ammunition's and electronics from a communist country has NOT been a wise move.Those tariffs are under the same umbrella as the Canadian tariffs. Spy technology and engineered failures in key components put us at great risk in this modern age of electronic dependency.
To fix America requires a reboot of it's economy.
This can't be done when more money is flowing out than is coming in.
When our farmers sell a bushel of wheat or soybeans for x amount,and what we import cost XX amount,there is a problem.
Look at how financially fat the folks are in some country's we import oil from,and sell grain to.They make a killin off of us .A bushel of beans for a barrel of oil is a level playing field.
By kebmo at 05,Jul,18 14:43 other posts of kebmo 
I think you missed my point.

The US put a 25% tariff on Canadian steel and a 10% tariff on Canadian aluminum. A tariff is a tax that any US company that buys this steel or aluminum will pay. The reason Mr. Trump gave for these tariffs is that Canada is a threat to US security.

Canada is not happy about this so placed an equal dollar amount of tariffs on US products manufactured in states that voted for Trump. The reason we chose those products is because if they sell less, they'll be mad at Trump and he might remove the tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum then we will remove tariffs on the US products and we all go back to being adults.

Read a bit about trade wars and tariffs, how they rarely work and how nobody really benefits from them. When you read and understand it, please send it to your president.

By #556372 at 05,Jul,18 19:26
It ends up being a tax on ourselves. We pay more for goods and get nothing in return. And that bushel of wheat will not be sold by American farmers but by other countries, By the way, Canada is one of the biggest producers of wheat. And while we "adjust"our people have to go through the misery of a paycheck that doesn't stretch so much. Everyone is so concerned with "Making America Great Again" that they forget that the biggest burden is on the poor slob thay works his 40 hours and wants to go home to a beer. Instead of letting the government get involved in business with a half baked idea, why not let business take care of business
By phart at 05,Jul,18 23:59 other posts of phart 
Don't expect the anger from the folks in Trump states to all be reflected on to him. They knew what they were getting when they voted for him.
Revenge tariffs means you are just admitting you have been taking advantage of us. Knee jerk reaction.

IF the US business see's they can buy US steal cheaper now that the tariffs are in place, they will buy US steel and employee more people here.That is the plan.

IF the US can get back on it's feet like it was years ago we can be great again. And if we are in good economic condition,guess what? We can help our neighbors fix themselves.
By kebmo at 06,Jul,18 05:22 other posts of kebmo 
Phart China just hit the US with $34B of US exports to China to match Trump's $34B tariffs on Chinese products.

Again, these are aimed directly at Trump leaning counties in the Midwest. Add to that, the $4B EU "rebalancing" tariffs also aimed at the Midwest and Canada's $16B and voters will be swayed.

These are not the hard core Trump voters, these are the cusp voters that could be swayed for economic reasons. When they are swayed, they will cost Trump the Senate.

I predict that the Dow Jones will take a major hit today, July 6/18.

By #556372 at 06,Jul,18 08:19
1st, the steel industry in the US is practically nonexistent. 2nd, if the US buys more from another country in total $ it only means we have more money to spend. That's the sign of a healthy economy. We went this route before. The last 2 times under Republican administrations. The last time with Bush jr. The plans were soon stopped because they backfired on them. I believe that free trade is the way to go. If you want more people working (and by the way, unemployment is at a historic low) retrain them for modern industries where they make more money. Most of the work that left the US was manual labor and poorly paid
By phart at 06,Jul,18 09:05 other posts of phart 
It is sad that the Epa killed our steel industry and others for sure.Alot of good money was made and family's raised on it.
And women had jobs in mills that made clothes,only to be put out of work back in the 80's when things left.
Not everyone here is smart enough for high tech.No amount of training could get some of my neighbors to working in high tech jobs.They are willing to work and do,but tech just goes over their heads.
Besides,Manual labor is paying more in some areas than tech jobs.
Both of my stocks happen to be going up by several dollars a share the past couple weeks.
We will see,
and to clear things up, the American people would still have your back if a natural disaster or something came along.
This is business and money scales trying to balance not a Hatred of your people.Just wanted to clear that up.
By #556372 at 06,Jul,18 09:23
Phart, I'm not Canadian, I'm all USofA. And I remember when good all American businessmen took their factories overseas because American unions demanded $25/hr wages for unskilled labor and they were loosing customers because their products were too expensive. I'm 69 yrs old and from WWII to the present WE let industry flee our shores, but, our needs increased. Now we cry because we don't have manufacturing. What should have happened is when those factories went overseas we should have prevented them from selling their products here. BTW, I know that we will have anyone's back in a disaster. That's the way we are. But, our allies, have backed us up in WWII, Vietnam, Iraq I and II, Afganistán, and the cold war with the USSR. Now, we are turning our backs on them. I can understand fighting the Chinese through an economic war. I just don't see it as right to do that to our neighbors to the north or England and Europe
By phart at 06,Jul,18 17:24 other posts of phart 
I must admit,sometimes I do forget about those damn unions.

Best I can figure for the security risk factor,
What it amounts to is the more dependent we are on foreign resources,the more vulnerable we are in a war .
It would be difficult to build equipment to fight a war when the steel comes from 1 place and the wires and chips from somewhere else. If we get manufacturing back home,and use our OWN supplies, then if there is a problem, we are not cut off. Think back to Germany in WW2. Fuel supply was cut off because they depended on outside sources.Thankfully the idea worked,it weakened them down.

When WW2 come along, we had large factory's that went from making cars and washing machines to making tanks,planes and guns. When the war was over they went back to making their normal stuff. Imagine that happening now.Hell, I doubt we could suit up a full army in clothes unless we went to Walmart! Imagine trying to get enough planes built to bomb a foreign enemy? What factory would retool for the job?
The liberals are putting gun manufacturers out of business,so where would a gun come from?
Oh,I know,"the next war won't be fought that way". Yea right, we bombed Iraq and afGanistan for a while and what did we do,send in troop.
By #556372 at 06,Jul,18 21:06
sooner or later all wars are fought with boots on the ground, but, you forget that this country has so much materiel and, in time of war, workers, that it's a juggernout,,. there are 15 major car factories in the USA plus a few small ones. we have 340 million people with about half in the work ****, the aircraft industry of the world is mostly here in this country. we produce, roughly, 82 million metric tons of steel every year,,this is 2.5 times the combined production of Canada and Mexico. If we keep them as allies, we can beat the world
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By JustWill at 06,Jul,18 20:57 other posts of JustWill 
Okay, let's get this straight--Donald Trump is not a thug and a bully. He is also a narcissist, a racist, a misogynist, a hypocrite, a liar, a pawn of the Russians, a kidnapper, a homophobe, a clown show, a swindler, a coward, a criminal, a blow-hard, an idiot and an incompetent horse's well as being a thug and a bully.
I get that you are Canadian, but it's okay to not be nice on this particular subject.

We will never be able to apologize enough to the rest of the world for the damage that the Idiot in Chief is doing...
By kebmo at 06,Jul,18 21:40 other posts of kebmo 
I was hoping to engage more than two people in this conversation. As you can see, it's been an exercise in futility to get the message of the Canadian Government and people across. Not one comment has even addressed the core issue because EVERYONE knows it's not true.

By JustWill at 06,Jul,18 22:25 other posts of JustWill 
Of course it isn't. Donald Trump, on the other hand, most certainly is. The guy is embracing our enemies and alienating our allies.
By phart at 07,Jul,18 12:07 other posts of phart 
The people of Canada it's self are not a security threat. BUT the fact we are dependent on them for anything is.
Self sufficiency is the key to national security.
Loose borders into Canada means, enemy's can use it as a passage into the US. Just as Mexico may as well run shuttle buses from their southern border to our's.

I guess some of you forgot the saying, Keep your friends close and your enemy's closer. Every time Rocket man farts,Trump knows it now.
As for apologizing for Trump, we have never got finished apologizing for Obama!

By #545929 at 07,Jul,18 09:28
Canada's steel and aluminium industry is a threat to US security because tin foil is made from aluminum and Trump has to look out for people like Alex Jones and Sean Hannity who are constantly wearing tin foil hats.

Did you know that Alex Jones never lost custody of his ch1ldren*? He never actually had any ch1ldren. They were just ch1ld actors who came out of his wife's vagina.

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Well what do you know? The folks in Holliweird finally figured out what the cause was for all the problems they are having .

The casting couch. All the women that have fucked their way to the top that have come back to bite the hand that fed them have shat in their beds! So either women will have to start a orgy on Holliwierd Boulevard to get anywhere OR finally they will have to actually LEARN HOW TO ACT OR SING to get anywhere in the industry.!
So perhaps some good will come out of the "METO" movement.Better actors perhaps!

By leopoldij at 21,May,18 17:15 other posts of leopoldij 
Royal wedding:

Isn't it so stupid that lots of people around the world, especially Americans, held royal wedding parties? What the fuck? Why do they care about the royalty of another country? My explanation is that many people have the need to look up to someone, to a prince, to a celebrity, to a god, to someone famous... Somehow people have this need to feel inferior to someone. This is actually what permeates submission, subordination and suppression of freedom of expression and thought.

"Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven"
Matthew 5:3

Royals should be regarded as nothing or less than less than nothing because they've done nothing to have the position they have. They were just the product of an accident of birth.

By leopoldij at 14,Mar,18 15:14 other posts of leopoldij 
So has Trump fucked Stormy Daniels or not? Did she give him a blow job?
By phart at 23,Mar,18 14:36 other posts of phart 
I would say probably he did and she probably liked it.A woman getting to have sex with 1 of the richest men in America? Of course she probably did,and again,like I say, liked it. Had Trump never became president,we would not have ever heard of this event.IF it even happened.

But I think she is being paid to "come out" with all this stuff and make a mountain out of a mole hill by a liberal like Soros to help bring down Trump. the liberals will stop at nothing to make waste of what could be a good thing for America.
By leopoldij at 23,Mar,18 16:51 other posts of leopoldij 
Maybe you're right. But, as you know, many Americans would like
to see that their President is a god fearing man and never does naughty things.
Look what happened with Clinton for getting a blow job.
By phart at 23,Mar,18 22:21 other posts of phart 
true,but to at least 2 democrats I was around about the time Clinton was being impeached,they didn't think he did anything wrong,and him in the White House. So what Trump did before he became president should not have any bearing either. OR is it politically correct to have a double standard? Democrats can fornicate as they wish but Republicans have to keep their pants zipped. Years before being prez?

By Andthisisme at 24,Mar,18 12:54 other posts of Andthisisme 
Whether she did or not really does not interest me that much. I am curious though why a number of women had been paid around $130,000 and had to sign confidentiality clauses though.

I understand that someone leaving a major company who has probably had access to information that competitors would find useful would maybe need to sign one. In that case a confidentiality agreement between the company and the executive departing makes sense. But nowhere else. They should be banned.

As for Trump and the people who paid over $130 000, can't they see that trying to maintain this agreement just fans the flames of speculation. If there was no affair then just spell out what the money was paid over for.

My old Hobby Horse is that Nixon wasn't driven out from the Presidency by Watergate but by his attempts to cover it up. Clinton should have come clean about Lewinsky as soon as the story broke. It was his attempts to finesse the truth caused him the problems.
By phart at 24,Mar,18 16:18 other posts of phart 
Well frankly paying them to shut up was stupid.But It would be a safe guess that maby supporters of Trump were trying to avoid distraction by these things.
I have no doubt Trump has poked more women and grabbed more puss that I will ever see if I stay on this site 24-7,but it does not change the fact he is wealthy and was willing to set that aside long enough to fix the problems our country has.

Frankly,if you look at this as it should be,the woman violated the agreement to shut for 130,000 dollars. She should be sued, and answer for her actions of violating a contract.
To add to the fray, she was seen teasing the media with a CD, you and I as the gullible media addicts we supposedly are, are supposed to know it must contain a video of Trumps big ass bobbing up and down and her faking 3 orgasms. Probably a grainy bunch of shit someone photoshopped,if it is anything.
By licksipsuckit at 24,Mar,18 19:03 other posts of licksipsuckit 
just proves he is a normal male, fucking is what we do, and if people cant fuck and not be held accountable for it, then what is this species coming too. why is sex always pulled into politics?? who cares who any one fucks unless its your husbands dick falling into someone elses pussy, that's the only two people it should effect, and maybe the other woman needs her hair pulled for fucking with someone elses man... paying for silence is crap, let them say what happened, just shows they are moles and will fuck anyone .. if they got paid and opened their mouths, there should be no law suit, they should just be made to pay every cent back with no questions asked, they broke the agreement and don't deserve the money.. so much fuss over fucking... and none of this helps run a country, let the man get on with his job, like this shit hasn't happened a million time before in every company, business or bedroom?? his dick isn't going to make the country better, but getting rid of all this BS and leaving it in the gutter where it belongs would *lix*
By phart at 24,Mar,18 20:53 other posts of phart 

Politicians have been getting away with things for decades.
I mean Kennedy drowned a damn nice Oldsmobile and waited till the next day to tell anyone there was a woman in the car he wacked with a golf club.Hum, fate it had for him though,didn't he have a brain tumor?
I would rather Trump behaved and remained loyal to his wife and set a better example for others. But right now, he has a job to do.
By Ravioli_Max at 24,Mar,18 22:09 other posts of Ravioli_Max 
Whacked with a golf club? I never heard about that part.

By Louis at 21,May,18 07:11 other posts of Louis 
Damn well said, every word.

By Andthisisme at 25,Mar,18 16:41 other posts of Andthisisme 
The particular details of this story are quite unimportant. To me the far more important issue is that powerful and wealthy organisation or individuals can use these sorts of agreements and the courts to bury things that they do not want the public to know about.

In this case if trump has nothing to hide why is he suing these women for breaching an agreement that he claims he was not partty to ?
By phart at 25,Mar,18 19:02 other posts of phart 
Because sadly,even if he "came clean" suing in the court of law is the only justice that is legal in the US. Money,rather or not we like it,is all the justice you can get. You can't get the rights to beat someone who try's to destroy your reputation. You can't legally shoot them with a bow and arrow in the town square for stealing from you. All you can do is, file charges and HOPE the legal system puts them away, OR sue.
And if you look at it from Trump's point of view,if they are damaging his reputation,then he has the right to take action against them.
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You know I just read some of what was said last night and now she was threatened, and she has signed several papers saying it didn't happen,but she says it did happen. last week she was in love with him ,this week she says she was not attracted to him. What gives? After seeing her on tv during a replay of some of the interview, it is obvious she is aging out of the porn industry,although she still looks ok. So it is becoming obvious this may just be another money making scheme.
By Andthisisme at 26,Mar,18 10:42 other posts of Andthisisme 
I have watched that interview and got the impression that she is a strong woman who is credible.
As for what she has said or signed in the past I am not sure what that proves. We know from so many miscarriages of justice that put under enough pressure innocent people will confess to murders that they did not commit. We don't know what pressure was exerted to get her to sign any of these documents.
What puzzles me is that if the case goes to court and trump is suing her surely all the details will be revealed, at least to the judge. So maybe all these threats of litigation are an attempt to scare her again.
Or maybe you are right. Time will tell.
By phart at 26,Mar,18 13:15 other posts of phart 
1 thing for sure,it is distracting all of us 1 way or another from focusing our attention towards the needs of our country and neighbors.Which is not good. If the media would ignore crap like this and leave it to Globe magazine or playboy where it belongs, the news could be filled with better things and the attention could be focused towards a better world.But no, the liberals and their media tools are more interested in bogging everyone down in bullshit..
Another thing,notice the timing of all this. The Russian probe thing is becoming a joke,so this could be interpreted as the next round of attacks on Trump.
And even if Trump banged her like a trailer house screen door in a typhoon, they were both adults, they were consenting adults,it happened before he was in the white house.
Why the sudden "coming out" with all this if it is totally legit?
Why would someone be trying to cover it up in 2011 anyway?
There is just enough info about this to smell like rotten eggs to me.
And have you heard anything from Trump's wife? If anyone should be upset,she should be.But no, she is with her husband, so apparently she is either aware that her husband screwed around and has dealt with it already and is trying to move on, or she does not give credence to the claims.

By mr_blue at 19,May,18 08:12 other posts of mr_blue 
Congrats to Harry and Meghan..
Royal wedding fever has taken over...
By phart at 19,May,18 09:01 other posts of phart 
Divorce in 5 years or less probably. I hope not for the sake of any kids but that is my bet on it. Marriage is to public and media makes to much money off scandal,fake or real.

What really confuses me is all the hoopla about a "royal family" that no longer runs anything.It is like the country keeps up this store front of royalty when it has no real function.
By Andthisisme at 20,May,18 11:03 other posts of Andthisisme 
They bring in huge amounts of 'tourist currency'- especilly $, so there is one very good reason.
But seriously, the alternative of some has been politician being President is a horrifying thought. The Royal family is what it is, like it or loathe it and has no executive role.
For me, i have not heard of one viable alternative to a Monarch that i would even consider.
By phart at 20,May,18 12:13 other posts of phart 
I can't disagree that there is probably not a good alternative.Nothing seems to work well,long.
BUT I must say,I was in the grocery store yesterday and Globe Magazine says the same thing I did in regards to length of marriage.

By bella! at 20,May,18 12:46 other posts of bella! 
For sure, Royal Wedding fever is not just an affliction in the UK, but in the States as well (in Michigan, at least).

I was invited and attended a Royal Wedding/reception and underestimated the seriousness of the invite.

My friend's s¡ster-in-law invited us to attend a gathering to watch and celebrate the marriage of Prince Harry and Megan. I knew in advance, that a hat was a "must" so considering what I recalled seeing for Prince William and Kate's marriage and the headpieces worn at the Kentucky Derby, I knew my hat had to be over the top!

Supplies were purchased from a nearby dollar store; a woven straw-like hat, a bouquet of fabric flowers, pipe cleaners and an embellished butterfly. The hat turned out just as I hoped and the butterfly affixed to the pipe cleaner, kinda buzzing around the flowers, was just what the hat needed!

Hey, this reception was taking place on Saturday morning at 10:00 and I thought my long strand of fake pearls, my jazzed up hat would look PERFECT with blue jeans. WRONG! When we got to the gathering, the hostess was in an cocktail dress, nylons, etc as were about 7 other ladies. Ugh! I felt so out of place.

We watched the wedding, which she taped, while sipping on our choice of tea and after the wedding, our reception food included crumpets, lemon curd, several different flavored scones, 2 different kinds of mini quiche, mini eclairs, mini cream puffs, deviled eggs, some cut vegetables and I'm sure I've forgotten something.

I can honestly say that I never anticipated that this gathering was going to be so "serious"
By Andthisisme at 20,May,18 17:15 other posts of Andthisisme 
As my earlier comments suggests I have no problem with the UK having a Royal family or with the hype for these types of wedding. However, I did not sit glued to the televison and have not watched any of what happened yesterday.

There are many of my countrymen, 16 million watched it live I am told, and clearly many others around the world who really do enjoy these events and good for them.

interestingly in todays massive newspaper coverage there was talk of some of the hat 'disasters' seen at William and Kate's wedding and that for yesterday's wedding people appear to have been far more cautious and that there were no real fashion disasters.
By bella! at 20,May,18 18:21 other posts of bella! 
I was 1 of 15 women that sat and watched the recorded event.

I understand that LIVE coverage began at approximately 07:00, our time, which is entirely too early for me on a non work day. There were 3 husbands that sat and drank coffee and enjoyed the sun while we women sat in front of the television.

Believe it or not, the local hotel offered a package which included an overnight stay, the live coverage of the wedding AND reception type food all for the low, low price of $189.00 per person. That's how/why my hostess decided she could host a wedding reception for less.

It is my understanding that the Royal Wedding cake was elderflower and lemon. Our hostess mirrored something similar, a lemon pound cake, which she purchased and then made an glaze that consisted of elderflower liqueur, cream and confectioners/powdered sugar.

The food and company was all quite good. Too bad the party started at the ungodly hour of 10:00!
By Andthisisme at 21,May,18 04:42 other posts of Andthisisme 
I am always staggered at the interest our Royal family can generate in the US, although in this case with a US citizen marrying into the family that does make more sense. I guess the US media will be all over her for a while at least.
Despite the impression I may give I am not a Scrooge - ‘Bah humbug’ - where the Royal family are concerned and your hostesses cake and food in general sounds really excellent.

By mr_blue at 04,Apr,18 17:37 other posts of mr_blue 
R.I.P. Ray nice guy,will be sadly missed by many .
By Andthisisme at 20,May,18 11:06 other posts of Andthisisme 
He was a player whose value to both club and country was greatly underestimates.

By #482237 at 17,Apr,18 11:53
anonymous wrote (Apr 16, 13:04):
Guess your nigger con hubby got out of the can and beat your saggy tits back into place again when he found out you were leaving snail trails from your 1940 cunt bag around here.

This was posted on my page yesterday. If any of you know "Mr Anonymous" because he bragged about what he did, please tell him or her that he or she is a coward that can't even mesg me direct.

By bella! at 04,Apr,18 21:14 other posts of bella! 
And in Youngstown, Ohio, residents have reported sightings of zombie-like raccoons roaming in their neighborhoods to their local police. Raccoons have been spotted during the daylight hours, walking on their hind legs while flashing their teeth. Ugh!

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By #435701 at 29,Mar,18 14:39
Here's the funny thing about all this...NONE of it really has to do with who fucked who, as fucking is a natural thing. If it weren't, NONE of us would be here. Meaning on this Planet. But you could take it to literally mean here on this site...It's all about Western Society and it's Mores...particularly Americans. 'Murichans', they are huge PRUDES compared to most of the rest of the World in they don't like to willingly, publicly admit to being sexual 'beings'. The more conservative one is in Muricah, the more prudish you's all a lie. EVERYBODY does whatEVER turns them on sexually. It does NOT matter your religion, espoused beliefs or how you portray yourselves to the people around you...Sex is YOUR very own master. No matter WHO you are...Most people hide this truth. Some don't, or at least SAY they don't on this website full of cocks n pussies...Those that are cloistered religiously or otherwise...have a huge asexual life full of wild fantasies...Or full of little boys and girls if you're a Catholic Mucky Muck...gonna be censored and maybe arrested for saying this!...So Trump's actual problem is NOT paying for sex, but just not living the life he wants the rest of us to believe he does. Particularly his wives and ****. And THAT, my friends, is his REAL problem. You CANNOT be El Prezidente of the US of A and admit to ANYTHING sexual beyond the missionary position with your wife. And very, VERY importantly...BEHIND CLOSED DOORS! Because if you do, you will become victim to the huge double standard all of us live by here in...'free' America.
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C H I L D R E N...Hmmm. Got me again with that word. You'd think I would learn...
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OOPS. Meant to mention the 'Storm' in our political lives...Teehee
By leopoldij at 03,Apr,18 18:31 other posts of leopoldij 
"You CANNOT be El Prezidente of the US of A and admit to ANYTHING sexual beyond the missionary position with your wife. And very, VERY importantly...BEHIND CLOSED DOORS! Because if you do, you will become victim to the huge double standard all of us live by here in...'free' America."


By bella! at 05,Feb,18 22:38 other posts of bella! 
Did y'all catch Jimmy Fallon's version of The Times They Are A Changin'?

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By #435701 at 06,Feb,18 13:35
I did now, thanks! Don't watch any late nite talk shows but know them all. Fallon is one talented guy. But the fact he has not joined in with the other late nite hosts in the Donald bashing, just makes his rewritten Dylan lyrics all the more meaningful...We are in such DANGEROUS times for so many reasons...and the 1st order of American business is to get a person that refers to himself as 'The Donald' out of office. SOON!
By phart at 06,Feb,18 14:08 other posts of phart 
I don't know how much support the antiDonald movement has around here. I doubt there is very much.
Alot of folks are catching up on their bills and treating their family's to vacations and new appliances with the bonus checks company's have been able to afford to give due to the tax cuts. Not to mention the power company has reduced the amount of increase in the electric bill they requested from regulators, which will save us all money.A couple company's locally are expanding,contracts are being renewed, orders for steel from a local foundry have doubled recently, unemployment around here is lowest it has been in years. That is just for starters Thanks to "the Donald"
By #435701 at 07,Feb,18 13:13
I understand entirely. The Donald (that is a sign of a sociopath BTW) is responsible for the stock market's incredible rise and as you say helping all of us with extra money...The problem is, he is gradually destroying democracy as he is the complete definition of an careful of short term meaningless gains in the disconnected stock market and money in your pocket right will you feel down the road when you can have absolute hindsight as to the cost everyone just paid...
By phart at 07,Feb,18 14:08 other posts of phart 
At the moment alot of folks are seeing a light at the end of the tunnel,like myself. I will do some googling as I have no idea what a "autocrat" is.
But how many millionaire folks that resemble a sociopath other than Howard Hughs do you know of?
By leopoldij at 07,Feb,18 15:23 other posts of leopoldij 
Autocrat = auto + crato (Greek) = self + hold.
In words, the one who holds all power by himself;
the only ruler;
the dictator;
the emperor.

By #435701 at 07,Feb,18 15:25
A GLARING example is our 'prez'. THE DONALD. Even tho 'HE' does not use that term in the past year. Because after all, HE is the El Prezidente of HIS very own country now... Really, how can you NOT see that his own reference to himself show's just what an uncaring and gigantic, SOCIOPATHIC person our prez is as far as you and I are concerned? Do you put a 'The' in front of your first name and refer to yourself that way? In the 3rd person but with a 'THE' in your 'TITLE'??...Let's just say you did that. What would all of your friends think of you? If you can honestly say to me they would not find that a little odd and VERY off putting...then you are right and I am wrong about the 'Donald'...but you will find you are just temporarily right.
As an aside. THE Donald REALLY wants to use Nukes. Just because he can. (HE be the PREZ so he can ifn he wants to). And because America has them. Unused for 70 some years...He does NOT understand the ramifications of just using a few 'battlefield' nukes and how that will lead to 'THEATER' weapons(that will kill you and I and cause the destruction of Mankind. What a stupid title for humans. We are NOT kind, generally speaking)...because he cannot see beyond his megalomaniacal self. The self he refers to IS 'THE Donald'..and he has just enough people in this country fooled by giving them something extra in their weekly paycheck to keep him in his position of DANGEROUS power...Look back to 1923 Germany. There ARE comparisons to be made because History repeats itself. Sadly, those repetitions are all the same. They just get worse because of the World's advancement in Weaponology...

By leopoldij at 07,Feb,18 15:20 other posts of leopoldij 
Why destroying democracy is a bad thing? For the donald' fan circle, it is actually a good thing.
By phart at 07,Feb,18 17:32 other posts of phart 
Sometimes I think Donald is pushing the envelope on being a bully.But,North Korea has not hit us or a ally with a nuke have they? He may have alot of folks thinking he is crazy,but he must have Little Rocket Man thinking he is bonkers.So far we are still alive.
I have witnessed comparisons of both George W and Obama to Hitler by folks that pick parts of history that are similar.
Hitler was a wacked out sob, but he was not dumb.He damn near got what he wanted.
By #435701 at 08,Feb,18 13:12
Once again, I agree with you. But I was NOT comparing our prez to Hitler, even tho there are valid arguments along those lines. Only past history to today's 'future' History. IF any humans are around to bear witness to what's happening today to make it actual history. Past, present and future paint an odd picture...My opinion. Only the past exists in a solid form. The present does not, as it is gone by the time one thinks about it. The future obviously does not exist. Yet...I see you are on board with me as far as pushing the 'envelope' with 'Little Rocket Man'. Except that that little shithead is NOT the real danger. He is only the tinder for a MUCH larger conflagration. Both China and the Russians share a border. And both of them have issues with us. As we have with them. All of us are armed to the TEETH with planet killing weapons...The South China Sea, the Middle East (and the number of countries that have Nukes there)Europe and NATO and them pesky fuckin' Russkies repeating what the Soviets (is that them? STILL? Yeah. Under Poothead, nothing's different) wanted to do during the Cold War....Just like Hitler overran Europe, they want to also...So...Things be stupidly dangerous right now...Do we REALLY want a guy like THE Donald leading us out of this deathtrap?
By leopoldij at 08,Feb,18 14:11 other posts of leopoldij 
Actually, it's never been the case in the history of the US that the president has been criticized so much and has been called names by his own party even.

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However, this is actually a major difference (and a sign of political health) between US and the dictatorships we mentioned: Still, a lot of people speak freely. That was not the case in the 30s Germany.
By #435701 at 08,Feb,18 14:57
You are confusing me. Are you saying America is politically healthy because it is NOT like 1930's Germany?...Because that is apples and oranges. We obviously live in different times, even tho they are comparable as far as history. But NOT in terms of health. America is NOT healthy...The ONLY difference is that people living in the present could NOT tell what the actual truth is/was (2018/1930's). Until it was too late...As I said, only history knows the truth. It's hard to see when one is blinded by all the F'IN' shit happening all around us in the moment...My real belief is that we live on a tiny planet that all it's 'residents' (us) see as their 'everything' which actually blinds them as to the actual truth. The fact we all exist in an unimaginably huge Universe on a tiny orb that is totally...recyclable...Carl Sagan said it best just before he departed this tiny World: 'We are like butterflies fluttering for a day and thinking it's forever'...Who can 'see' even in the instant?...Actually...some of us can.
By #482237 at 11,Mar,18 12:23
Perhaps you are right. I don't know. I'm just a dumb blonde with little to think with,,but,,if you are implying we are comparable to 1030's Germany, then i say you are wrong. This country, despite the present president (good or bad is for you to decide), was, is, and will be able, again, to elect a president. The great mistake we have made is being too liberal in the voting amendments. No, I don't mean race related, I mean that voting should be compulsory. If so, then the majority of the votes would be cast by the majority of the population,. That would be a final and just deserved end to any election.

By leopoldij at 08,Feb,18 14:12 other posts of leopoldij 
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By #435701 at 08,Feb,18 15:02
STOP confusing me!...Unless you are confused? Easy to happen in this confusing, rotating (1,000 MPH), traveling (67,000 MPH) around the sun...Who ISN'T dizzy? I know I be...
By leopoldij at 09,Feb,18 06:02 other posts of leopoldij 
Actually, it's even worse than you think:
We're moving at 1.34 MILLION MILES PER HOUR.
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By phart at 09,Feb,18 10:07 other posts of phart 

I must admit,there are dangers lurking.But some we may not even know about.Remember all those suit case nukes the Russians can't find? Who's got them? You never know,some nut case in a little 3rd world country may be laughing and working his ass off to blow us all to hell as we fight among ourselves.That is 1 reason I am sad that Russia,china and the US have started this chest puffing and huffing when we need to be working together against the mutual threat of terrorism.
On a side note,why would China want to blow up the US when they purty much own us anyway in the debt we owe and the land and company's they have outright bought? It would be comparable to shooting 1's own foot.
By leopoldij at 09,Feb,18 11:35 other posts of leopoldij 
Right, I agree.

By #435701 at 12,Feb,18 14:46
You are right again. They do 'purty'(I like that word) much own us...Along with the Japanese and the US Fed...That's what the Fed was doing under Bernancke's 'Qualitative Easing' etc. It was the US Gov't. buying our own bonds that has made the Stock Market take off in an historical way. Followed by ALL of the Western World's Markets...But we live on a Planet where logic rarely makes the decisions. All the major players are, as I said, armed to the frickin' teeth and run by greed, fear and totally unwise behaviors. Put together with BOTH China and Russia taking land/countries either thru military **** or just because nobody's paying attention in the S. China Sea while China begins 'Island Hopping'. Sound familiar?...Let's assume China 'calls' all the US bonds it owns and wants payment + interest now. As America is already living on monies that don't actually exist, that would NOT be possible. WHAT would we do? Germany in 1939 living under massive inflation...started WWII...don't **** yourself. Everyone and EVERY country has a point when they will resort to **** rather than...collapse...

F O R C E was deemed a bad word...Forgot K I D and V I O L E N C e. Christ Almighty. Here we all are looking at erect Dicks and wet Pussies...and we cannot use certain words that are NOT the infamous 7 words of George Carlin..
By #482237 at 14,Mar,18 14:50
if we can't agree to call a spade a spade,,how can we agree on politics???

By #482237 at 14,Mar,18 14:48
you forget that 30 yrs back the Japanese where in that same place China is at. Then, they lost most of it due to a turn in the economy,,,the dollar took a plunge and real estate bottomed. Owing tons of money to China, while not helping the US worker,,will keep China from turning on us,,,their emerging economy could not survive it if we go bankrupt due to mismanagement or war

By #435701 at 12,Feb,18 14:57
Sehr Cool! But that is just beyond most people's imagination...Mine, too!...So, do you think we are living in a 2 dimensional Holograph, also?
By leopoldij at 12,Feb,18 20:40 other posts of leopoldij 
I don't think and I don't believe in anything.
By #482237 at 14,Mar,18 14:53
Maybe you should think,,then you might believe in something,,
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By Skittles at 09,Feb,18 10:20 other posts of Skittles 
Most of the people here whinging about Trump are not even American.. so it is like yelling at a brick wall. Why are you bothering?

I think they see things on social media and the infected news media and just turn into followers trying to look informed, popular, or in the know about things that quite frankly, they don't even understand.

By Andthisisme at 12,Feb,18 17:41 other posts of Andthisisme 
They bother because like it or not what President Trump does or says can affect the lives of many people outside th U.S.
As for the infected media, yes there may be some news reports by some media that are not truthful but the majority of the media is not peddling fake news and if you are looking for fake news there is no bigger twister of the facts than President Trump.

By #482237 at 14,Mar,18 21:12
Why shouldn't they have an opinion? Most of us,Americans, have an opinion about foreign leaders like Putin or Merkle. What's more, blaming the media for reporting the news is getting old. What you mean is "we don't understand your point of view. " and, frankly, it's hard to understand. One more point. The correct term is " US citizen ". American is anyone born somewhere from Newfoundland to Tierra del Fuego.

By #460523 at 24,Mar,18 18:46

By #533846 at 24,Mar,18 15:20
So anyone watch dragon ball super?? If so this last episode tonight shall be lit or it better be 😂

By mr_blue at 14,Mar,18 13:18 other posts of mr_blue 
RIP Stephen Hawking.
Proof that the mind can overcome many obstacles in life.
By Skittles at 14,Mar,18 21:53 other posts of Skittles 
You are expecting site Muppets to know who he is?
By phart at 17,Mar,18 17:20 other posts of phart 
I agree that he showed the world you could overcome obstacles but as far as knowing who he was,yea,I knew somewhat of who he was but he was so far out there that I never paid him any attention. Black holes and vacuums and mathematics are not anything that really helps society.So no,he may not be a household word to alot of us.
Now had he came up with a cure for colon cancer,or invented a new energy source or maby came up with a new material to build things with,more folks would know him.
Like Edison,Ford,Gates.

By #482237 at 16,Mar,18 22:37
Bacardi Gold and beer don’t mix,,,,,well, they do but,
not in my head,,
Facebook is G rated,,,what I want to say to my lover
is super XXXX rated
I have few friends,,,they are for life,,,
I’m not religious,, I believe in Jesus,,
My kids/grandkids matter more than my life,,
Rum and beer don’t mix,,,
I may not agree with you on many things but I’ll
stand next to you and fight for your right to feel and
say what you believe in.
God, in his infinite mercy, forgave me,,
My Mom, my favorite Rose, gave me life,,but, more
than that,, she gave me all her love,,,
A good man by your side can shelter your soul
from the harshness of life
Rum and beer don’t mix,,,not even Bud,,

By mr_blue at 11,Mar,18 10:26 other posts of mr_blue 
Happy mother's day to the UK mum's out there..

By epep50 at 01,Feb,18 21:22 other posts of epep50 
Liberals, feminists, and SJW's are finally getting served a dish of cold shit and reality, thank god.
By leopoldij at 02,Feb,18 08:12 other posts of leopoldij 
How so? Are you referring to a specific event/events?
By phart at 06,Feb,18 08:58 other posts of phart 
I must admit,kinda curious myself.
By leopoldij at 06,Feb,18 14:56 other posts of leopoldij 
Me too. What's he referring to?

By Skittles at 09,Feb,18 10:20 other posts of Skittles 
@epep50... agree mate. It is true.

By mr_blue at 05,Feb,18 14:57 other posts of mr_blue 
Congrats to the eagles..

By leopoldij at 29,Jan,18 17:08 other posts of leopoldij 
Is quitting social media good?
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By phart at 29,Jan,18 19:01 other posts of phart 
It would be a good idea for alot of people to lay down the phone,at least during a meal and rest from it. I have noticed family's eating at the same table at the restaurant and ALL of them will be on phones punching keys. Take 45 minutes and actually look your family in the eyes once in a while as you eat! Sheesh.

I must admit,I am not on facebook,twitter and such.I am on this site and several others related to my hobbies and knowledge I need for my piddley side work I do to make ends meet.

But to get on the computer to post a picture of my breakfast pancake and wait on comments, that would be boring and stupid.Not to mention a waste of time.

I mean,I put a picture of my pecker on here and if I was sitting here waiting all night for a response,I would be waiting along time!

By Andthisisme at 30,Jan,18 08:59 other posts of Andthisisme 
That probably all depends on your relationship with it.
I have both Facebook and Twitter accounts, that I never post on or use, because sometimes they are the only ways to contact a business. I never use social media while socialising with other people.
So many people's lives today appear to totally revolve around their phone or tablet. I am sure like me you will have seen groups of young people together, all on their gadget and not looking at or talking to the people they are actually with. i have friends who are constantly checking their media while I am with them. That is so annoying and I think rude.
So yes taking a break, if not quitting, from social media would I am sure be a really good thing for some people; they could then begin to enjoy the life that they are actually living.
By leopoldij at 30,Jan,18 12:17 other posts of leopoldij 
I've never used these things.
By young_dude at 01,Feb,18 04:26 other posts of young_dude 
Your on social media now or did you not notice
By leopoldij at 01,Feb,18 12:03 other posts of leopoldij 
Correct. I sometimes contradict myself.

By Big_Balled_Artist at 30,Jan,18 14:02 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
I quitted facebook 5 months ago, I have more Time to spend living instead of watching other people lives. I want to quit porn to see if I'll fuck more women instead of watching them getting fucked. On more quitting news,quitting weed 2 months ago also was a great move
By phart at 30,Jan,18 16:10 other posts of phart 
Wow, really,you might want to write a page about how you come to those decisions and it might help others to figure out why they can't stop.
By Big_Balled_Artist at 30,Jan,18 20:45 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
Well I'll write it here, first thing to know I am a guy with a mix of addictive personality and ADD so I've already been throught several addictions. Energy drinks(2 years), alcohol(2 years), facebook lots of hours daily(5 years), cannabis(5 years, at the end 5g a day) anime/cartoon(2 years, +10 episodes daily). I lost a lot of money, time, friends, trust. Before going to college I was an A+ student, I moved out in a dorm, got introduced to weed and also became alcoholic, dropped out 3 sessions in a row. Moved back to my mother house, +60% of All the money I made went to weed or alcohol. Here the quality outdoor weed is at 240$ for a QP, so it's easy to get stuck in a loop. I decided to quit alcohol because I was tired of waking up feeling like a train rolled on me. A couple months later I turned 23 and that day I was in Montréal at a classy hotel with a coworker and his friends, smoked countless joints in an alley, drank 26 ounces of Ciroc and the guys strarted to do coke at that point I was disgusted by them and I realised I was the same, an addict, I never realised that weed was an addiction before, even drunk and high I knew I had to quit. The day after I did the math on how much money I spent that year on pot, I was shocked. Then I recalled my behaviors on weed: eating junk food, watching TV, ****, watching porn, listening to boring music in my couch and once again I was shocked on how much time I lost and how boring my Life was because of weed, and I thought I was smoking my boredom away... Anyway I threw away all my smoking stuff, deleted all my smoking songs and it was it, my dealer wasn't mad, he actually said he was impressed. I tried to quit before but I wasn't aware of my addiction, I just wanted to save money and fell back weeks or even days later, but now it's different. I don't want to be an addict anymore, when I want to get high I train, when I want to waste time I draw or read. The first month was rough the second was nothing. Quitting facebook is simple you just have to delete the account, the messenger will still work, goodbye fb posts are a no-no since you could want to see notifications it brought and log back. Energy drink are also easy to quit when you realise they do absolutely nothing good. Anime/tv/**** addiction only needs something else to fill time, it can be related to what you watch/play I train to be as strong as roronoa zoro and I'm not ashamed to say it. The only addiction I still have is porn(11 years!) I'm not able to do more than 30h without it, even with porn blockers I find ways to watch it, to be continued
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By leopoldij at 30,Jan,18 18:22 other posts of leopoldij 
Good going!!!

By mr_blue at 27,Jan,18 18:18 other posts of mr_blue 
How do people feel about cheerleaders at sports events?
Good thing or not,is it sexist ?
Just curious,I ask cuz in the UK,a sport called darts,has decided to remove the "walk on girls"...
In TV darts events they have a walk on,basically a guy walks to the stage with a them tune and two ladies... I never really though about it as sexist,now the walk on girls have no job!!! So sports events that use promo girls/models are sexist....I dunno,is it exploiting the women ?they would probably speak up if they felt that way surely?
By phart at 27,Jan,18 22:07 other posts of phart 
Probably a knee jurk reaction to try and prevent the avalanche of issues from getting bigger.

Chances are the cheer leaders will be gone from ball games and such in the future because of all this hoopla in recent months.

Or they will be wearing full floppy body suits so as to not stimulate anyone's attention.
As for my opinion,I think the gals make the show better.Something attractive. I am not a nascar fan but I can't see a robot bringing in the trophy to the race winner being interesting to watch. But let a nice looking gal be standing there,it draws attention.
The thing is, the women in these situations have to know they are being looked at. I mean really,skimpy skirt,low tops, tight pants. All in the notion of drawing eyes.
If they feel used, turn in a notice and go work in a cubicle.

By Andthisisme at 28,Jan,18 09:32 other posts of Andthisisme 
This is further evidence of a disturbing trend that is very prevalent at the moment. There was a private charity funtion for rich executives where the waitresses were asked to dress in short skirts and where some of them were subject to boorish behaviour including groping. All of which was totally unacceptable.

However the reaction was 'nuclear' - the function will never be held again, charities that have received money from this function are returning it, a politician who attended- with no allegation of misbehaviour on his part has been sacked.

This is just the latest in a series of 'sexual assault' scandals.

This may be an over reaction on my part but this all smacks of the hysteria that led to the Salem Witch Trials.
To some people an allegation is now seen as a conviction, no evidence, no proof, no trial.

This should concern us all. Sexual assault and misbehaviour is never acceptable but the hysterical reaction by some factions against women who have tried to calm this hysteria speaks volumes.
By phart at 28,Jan,18 12:06 other posts of phart 
Am I the only 1 that sees this backfiring on women in general in the future?
Let's say,20 years from now,a lonely 20 year old woman is walking down the street and sees a man she is attracted to. She says "Hi there" in a sweet voice. The man immediately takes her picture with his phone and calls 911 and presses charges against her for harassment and she winds up in jail 6 months with a criminal record.

That is a obvious exaggeration but the point I am trying to make is this is going to prompt men to be on pins and needles and literately just tell women to fuck off and they will just stay home and jack off.
Women will find them selves unemployed because company's will be leery of sexual issues and just stop hiring them to prevent problems. Bars will shut down because they would be considered aiding and a bedding the men accused of sexual miss conduct and so on. Women will find themselves unsatisfied in employment,sex,and life in general. All because of this mess going on now.
No cheer leaders at a ball game? what the hell?
Women in abaya's working at Hooters?
Where will this crap end?
I can just see it now,Biker gals riding on the back of their mans Harley's wearing the equivalent of a space suit to make sure NO man can see anything about them to become excited about.
By Andthisisme at 28,Jan,18 13:00 other posts of Andthisisme 
I tend to agree and there may well be a response to all this hysteria by men.
At the present time what male in his right mind would approach an unknown female in a bar or club just to say Hi. You would certainly need to have a 'death wish' to even consider becoming sexually active with a woman even if you knew her.

I have a vaguely related question. Female movie stars and other celebrities often walk the red carpet in clothes that very often all but expose the full breast. What in the woman's mind is the purpose of this exposure?
By #482237 at 29,Jan,18 10:10
There's a difference between admiring the Mona Lisa and licking her

By #482237 at 29,Jan,18 10:16
I think that if a woman wants to be a cheerleader that's her choice,,I have no problem with women being provocative, slutty, or even promiscuous. What I and many women object to is being forced to endure sexual harassment. And, I noticed many men say, "well, she dresses to be noticed.". That is true, and if you do,,great,,,it's even ok to go to someone and say,,I like what i see. That changes when she says,,"Buzz off," and the guy keeps going. That is sexual harassment.
By phart at 29,Jan,18 14:15 other posts of phart 
It would help matters if women were clearer on the buzz off part. Most probably think,"well if I tell him buzz off he won't come back to eat or tip." So it cuts into the pocket book.
So they need to say,"Hey I am just here to serve your food and drink not be grabbed". Instead of "Oh honey don't do that".
I wouldn't lick the Mono Lisa, I doubt she has been dusted in a long time!
By #482237 at 29,Jan,18 14:19
you may be right,,they should carry a weighted sock and use it as a "signal" to the man to back off,,don't you think so??
By phart at 29,Jan,18 18:46 other posts of phart 
That would make it clear wouldn't it?!

By young_dude at 01,Feb,18 04:29 other posts of young_dude 
A sign of the times I’m afraid...
By phart at 01,Feb,18 10:09 other posts of phart 
Yet another casualty because of the few women that are making it hard for all of them. › UK › Formula One

I can't get the link to show up but Formula 1 is doing away with the Grid girls. What I saw of them,WOW they looked good.Sadly gone now.

Nascar will be next.

The day will come when women will regret not dealing with the few whiners that messed up a good thing for them.

By phart at 25,Jan,18 19:48 other posts of phart 
I notice the word racist used alot lately. I did a bit of googling and found this link. Entry 5 on the first page explains the trouble with the over use of this word.
Read it and think about it.
Just food for thought.

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Reporter: "Excuse me, may I interview you?"
Man: "Yes!"
Reporter: "Name?"
Man: "Abdul Al-Rhazim."
Reporter: "Sex?"
Man: "Three to five times a week."
Reporter: "No no! I mean male or female?"
Man: "Yes, male, female... sometimes camel."
Reporter: "Holy cow!"
Man: "Yes, cow, sheep... an1mals in general."
Reporter: "But isn't that hostile?"
Man: "Yes, horse style, dog style, any style."
Reporter: "Oh dear!"
Man: "No, no deer. Deer run too fast. Hard to catch."
By phart at 25,Jan,18 22:35 other posts of phart 
By leopoldij at 26,Jan,18 03:40 other posts of leopoldij 
I think jokes unite people, even ones who don't fully agree on everything.

By #482237 at 26,Jan,18 16:39

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No comment is fitting really, just plain horrific.

By mr_blue at 21,Jan,18 06:59 other posts of mr_blue 
US government shutdown,..
By phart at 21,Jan,18 09:29 other posts of phart 
I don't recall much changing the last time it happened.
We didn't get a tax break for those 2 weeks either!
The longer it stays closed the more folks will see that we could get by with alot less government.
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Besides, is this not more important than a government shut down? I am surprised the liberals aint been all over this!
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And what about this? Although the government is shut down, we can still kick people off ethics commitees, For ethics violations.
(Reuters) - U.S. House of Representatives Speaker Paul Ryan removed Representative Patrick Meehan from the House Ethics Committee on Saturday following sexual misconduct allegations,
Meehan, 62, used thousands of dollars of taxpayer money to settle a sexual misconduct claim from a former female aide who accused of making unwanted romantic overtures.

"romantic overtures" Really? damn get a friggen grip!

By #482237 at 17,Jan,18 11:03
I'm just stocking the fire,,,,this has been in me for a while, but,,it just became very personal,,,,,if i offend you,,it's only by chance,,,

I live in redneck heaven,,if it wasn't for my blond hair, blue eyes and big tits i'd be dead for my liberal views. The few things all these yahoos that live around here have is that they all think Donald Trump is God on a cleansing mission They all think that getting a GED is having an education, and working at McDonald's is a career. They also love to blame all their problems on these "hordes" of undocumented immigrants or "foreigners". The funny thing is that most of those “foreigners” would look down on these yahoos as trailer trash (All this sound familiar to some of you?? Yes, I did post part of this in another threat. I’m sorry if i repeat this).
The men have never been to a dentist in their whole life. A smile from them is like a battle ground of falling and yellowed teeth with deep cavities. The Marlboro man, still packing three pounds of iron in his pants because it offsets his little pee pee.
And the women,,wow,,giving blow jobs at 12,,getting pregnant at 14,,marrying their “love of their life” and the baby’s father after the birth, The father, who’s best part ran down his mom’s leg, proudly buying everyone a quarter pounder with cheese. And taking mama and **** home in his ten year old Ford F150 with gun racks.
Why am I bitter? My friend just got deported. She was here **** years. Has two daughters and a WASP husband (that’s means White Anglo Saxon and Protestant for those that don’t know) she loves and took care off. Why is she gone? Her parents brought her here when she was eight illegally. What happened to our humanity???
By phart at 17,Jan,18 11:35 other posts of phart 
No offense taken,you are American,and we have Freedom of speech which a member of your family helped fight for and defend.So speak your mind freely.

I don't consider the type area you are describing redneck heaven.It sounds more like you somehow found the dregs of society that found safe haven.Move away from them.

Your picture of a redneck is common.It is the 1 media outlets promote.And granted it does exist,but not as prominent as the media portrays. Most real rednecks work for a living and work right along side the blacks and Hispanics they are accused of hating.

I could easliy be considered a redneck.But I don't fit all the criteria. I don't have a gun rack in any of my trucks.Don't need 1.

I do have a couple cavity's but it is because it was going to cost a couple grand to get my teeth cleaned and then a couple more for crowns. On disability,you adjust priority's. And dental insurance, cost a arm and a leg.

10 year old truck? Hahaha, have you priced 1 lately? A comfortably equipped new F150 is about 45,000 dollars. You have to have 1 hell of a job to pay for that and a house and to feed a family.

A 10 year old truck is common place for a working man with other bills like house payments unless he has a tax right off option or it is provided by his employer.

I am sorry about your friend being deported. I have a friend whose daughters husband and father of 2 may be getting deported. Here is the thing in his case. 10 years ago he was offered a chance to get his paperwork in order and become a citizen.He **** his feet and let everything expire on him. Reapplied and then disappeared. The kids haven't seen him in a couple years, he sends a little money once in a while.

Your friend had to know her status was questionable for a long time once she became 18.Once she became a adult dealing with the legal issues should have been possible. There are attorneys that help with that sort of thing.. Getting married should have touched base on the citizen ship issues and got a ball rolling along time ago. Perhaps since she was married, the marriage status can be used to bring her back. Hard to say.
By #482237 at 17,Jan,18 12:00
She was in limbo,,they would not let her become legal,,they spent a fortune trying to get her legal
By phart at 17,Jan,18 12:02 other posts of phart 
sorry to hear that the system is basically at fault in this 1.
Like I edited above, No offense taken,you are American,and we have Freedom of speech which a member of your family helped fight for and defend.So speak your mind freely.

By #482237 at 17,Jan,18 12:03
It's their attitude and not their work habits that makes it bad. And it's hard to move from a great position at work,,your loved ones and home
By sherryann at 17,Jan,18 14:00 other posts of sherryann 
I **** to horn in here, and rarely do, but phart is right how the MSM depicts "rednecks." How I'd love to live in what you call "redneck heaven." I can only imagine it...
By #482237 at 17,Jan,18 16:53
I don't mind the input. If this is how or where you want to live, then, by all means, you have my blessings. The MSM does depict them so, but, this is a close and personal observation of many of the citizens in this area of the USA. Southwest Georgia is like that and nothing will change it. I can live with all their habits without complaints. It's no skin of my nose if they carry a fire arm or drive an old truck. Their kids can be brought up as they like. It's their hatred for Blacks, Mexican, Puerto Ricans (go figure they even **** their own) or foreigners that don't speak English. Oh sure, they'll work right next to them, and even "allow" them to live next to them, but, in the safety of their friends circle it's "Fucking Niggers", "Fucking Spics", "Fucking PRs". And, "They let all these people in and "I" have to pay for them,,,,all these "niggers" collecting welfare with all these kids they keep having. And on and on and on.
Yes, I realize I'm painting all as racists. They are not, but,right now, I'm mad.
By phart at 17,Jan,18 19:52 other posts of phart 
I know you are mad, time will ease the anguish.
But you know well as I do that immigrants get sums of money from the government.And that money comes from that chunk of your pay check called federal tax. As you drive down the road hitting potholes that rattle your teeth that you have to pay to get fixed,,your tax money is paying for someone Else's teeth to be fixed that never paid into that same system. Not a racist statement,just fact,the government takes from the worker and pass's it on to folks that don't work for it.
If it were just a hand up to get someone back on track,that is 1 thing,that person will go to work and pay back into the system.But a hand out, nope, sorry,humanity has to use common sense.
And I must repeat the old adage,if you can't feed em,don't make em'. All races have folks that spit out kids like quarters from a slot machine. People bring in huge chunks of money like that. The most confusing holiday in alot of this country is Fathers day sadly. I have known women that had 4 kids,White women,that drew checks for 3000 dollars a month. All 4 kids were nasty,unbathed,barefooted and stunk,but by God she had a Iphone and a Escalade with the left side tore up from hitting a phone pole driving drunk.
Instead of Redneck,the term White Trash applies to folks like that.
By #482237 at 17,Jan,18 21:17
Why is the argument always "it's my tax dollars that they are taking to pay for them". Most of these people work,legally or illegally, and taxes are withheld from their paycheck too. And for everyone on welfare that drives an Escalade there's 10 who ride a bus. Are there cheats? You bet there are. But when a single mom with 2kids can't manage food and rent and gets food stamps or a father and sole supporter of a family of 4 gets laid off and claims unemployment insurance, should we pass a law that we can deport them to Canada? Or, here's one you are familiar. What if the person becomes disabled? Let him die? The reason humanity organized itself into pods and started to collect money for the good of the public was to benefit the collective pod, ,,without exceptions. Those exceptions are part of the cost of doing business. I don't think you are starving because the Escalade crowd exits
By phart at 17,Jan,18 22:47 other posts of phart 
just because someone is not starving because of the cadi crowd does not make it right.And trust me,there is plenty of components in the Pod that were supposed to keep it legit that are being ignored. What I live off of,I paid into.

Go to a major city and watch the transit buses or the little electric trains our tax dollars are paying for. 10 people max,empty seats.

The unemployment and food stamps you refer to for the folks that fell on hard times are the "hand UP" I was referring to. MOST of those folks that fall on hard times,want to get back on their feet and be able to take care of themselves.

It is the folks that come into the pod and draw and never do anything,that piss alot of folks off. The pod is not a endless horn of plenty.It has limits.
By #482237 at 18,Jan,18 08:02
And you think there's that many that come in to the pod and don't contribute? Seriously? See, this is the same description of minority groups by people like you (notice I didn't call you a redneck or yahoo)
By phart at 18,Jan,18 08:30 other posts of phart 
Yes I do,that is why alot of the systems county and statewide are in the red. More going out than coming in.

By sherryann at 19,Jan,18 15:47 other posts of sherryann 
Hi warmtits. Sorry to hear you're mad, hope today is a better day. I know I but in on your conversation, sorry. It's just that no one sees fault with putting "rednecks" down, I never understood that, especially when the same people wouldn't dare ever put down any other demographic. Have a great day.
By #482237 at 19,Jan,18 16:06
FYI,,my Dad, Ted T. Was a "redneck". He was the finest, most caring man I ever knew. But, he was from a time when that label was worn like a badge of honor, and it was. Today, sadly, it has been degraded to the equivalent of poor white trash. I didn't do that. I just use the term as everyone one is familiar with the type. I don't mind you butting in nor do I consider it wrong. This is a forum and we all have a right to express our ideas. Please forgive me if I trampled on an ideal. And,we do put down other demographics. Blacks, Asians, Moslems, Catholics, Irish, native Americans, stuffed shirts, lawyers, bankers, politicians, cops,,the list is endless. Maybe, if we only thought of them as people, some good, some bad, we might find a way to get along. And, that,baby, was the main point of my rant. May YOU have a great day.
By sherryann at 19,Jan,18 17:39 other posts of sherryann 
I completely agree warmtits. Thank you.

By Big_Balled_Artist at 19,Jan,18 11:12 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
Hey I live in a Redneck heaven too, tho it's in canada so the people taken away are dangerous fugitives and friendly weed growers, life is so predictable here it's kind of pathetic
By #482237 at 19,Jan,18 11:15
weed growers???? that's so WRONG,,,I feel for you, baby,,

By JustWill at 12,Jan,18 12:20 other posts of JustWill 
So, the Orange Overlord has spoken and declared that 'Merica doesn't want people coming here from their "shithole" countries.
Out of curiosity, how many members here live in one of those "shithole" countries, and what do you think about Trumpty-Dumpty's statement?
By #545929 at 12,Jan,18 13:06
We have yet to receive Shithole status from Emperor Bone Spurs so I guess we have that to look forward to. I do, however, know quite a few people who have no desire, whatsoever, to go to the United States, due to the current climate there. They are, instead, remaining home for their vacation or heading off to Europe.

The only thing which has surprised me about his vile comments is that people were shocked that he actually said them. Where have these people been for the past few decades. Trump's racist beliefs and actions have been well documented back to the early 1970's. He is a truly disgusting individual with no redeeming qualities and the knuckle-draggers who support and enable him are no better.
By JustWill at 12,Jan,18 13:39 other posts of JustWill 
I couldn't have said it better myself.

By #482237 at 13,Jan,18 10:52
Baby,,you've got my vote if you want it,,

By phart at 12,Jan,18 14:18 other posts of phart 
Well,if those people would come here and assimilate and work and pay taxes instead of bringing their ways with them,no one would think twice. But when immigrants come here to the US, rent a nice home and rip out the kitchen cabinets to put their chickens in and when the plumbing goes out they just go in the basement and shit in the floor, they may as well have stayed at home. These immigrants don't want to call when something breaks in the home because the owner might see the drugs and trash. When they don't pay the rent and the home owner trys to evict, they use the government to help them stay in for a while longer. Some of my friends have rental property's and due to law they can't decide who they rent to. Matter of fact the gov forces them sometimes to rent to people they know are not worth a shit or are ****. 1 guy literally just burned down 2 homes that were worth over 200,000 dollars before renters from "shithole" country's destroyed them.

There is 2 sides to every story and Trump happens to be aware of the side the liberals don't want to acknowledge.

This is just a tidbit of why Americans like me are not shocked by what he said and although he could be a bit more tactful in how he said it, he said what most WORKING CLASS Americans think.

Haiti,several years back there was a disaster there. Millions of dollars from all over the world were sent there. Food and supplys by the plane and ship load were sent also. Most are still rotting on the pallets as the lazy people just got a couple tarps and some rope and threw up a shelter and are still in it all these years later because they are to damn LAZY to do better. Now why bring them here to do the same thing and suck off the system? UH? Why? The system is running out of tits to be sucked on. The system is going broke and liberals want to bring MORE in here that are non productive, lazy leaches? Naw they can stay at home.
By JustWill at 12,Jan,18 17:03 other posts of JustWill 
Thanks for demonstrating how the "mind" of a typical, Trump-loving deplorable works!

In case anyone isn't clear on this, when he says "those people", it is code for "people who aren't white".
By phart at 12,Jan,18 22:31 other posts of phart 
hehehe, Just as I thought,You didn't pay 1 damn bit of attention to WHAT I said. Only thing you noticed was I stated a opinion you consider typical of a Trump voter.
Typical of the liberal mindset. That is why nothing ever gets fixed.

SO apparently you think it is ok for a bunch of bum's to come to America and free load and trash up everything?
By #482237 at 13,Jan,18 11:29
You know, baby, I live in redneck heaven,,if it wasn't for my blond hair, blue eyes and big tits i'd be dead for my liberal views. The few things all these yahoos have is that they all think Donald Trump is God on a cleansing mission, they all think that getting a GED is having an education, and working at McDonald's is a career. They also love to blame all their problems on these "hordes" of undocumented immigrants or "foreigners". The funny thing is that most of those people would look down on these yahoos as trailer trash. And,,as there's only a little more than 11 million undocumented (****) immigrants in the USA, in a population of 311 million means that less than 4% is ****. Baby, if that causes you trouble,,well,,,what can i say. One more thing,,in almost every underdeveloped country in the world the American colony has it's own schools, shops and in some places, walled off areas,,can't have the women violated, right??

By JustWill at 13,Jan,18 13:27 other posts of JustWill 
You're wrong. I paid attention to every racist word you wrote.
I then promptly dismissed your "opinion" as the ignorant, racist trash that it was.
There was no point in commenting any further. As I have said before, I've learned that trying to have an intelligent conversation with a proud racist is as useless as trying to teach a monkey to play the banjo.

By #482237 at 13,Jan,18 11:07
tell me baby,,when the Irish brought their whiskey and corn beef and potatoes,,or when the Italians brought their pasta,,,and both landed in Ellis island with all their national baggage,,,did they, too, redo their homes to accommodate their particular way of life? I'm from Miami, Florida and my kids still live there. There's no more diversified city in the US except, maybe, New York, and i can tell you that, by far, all these people are like us as anyone can be. Are there a few whom are a little lost in assimilation? Yes, but most are hard working, tax paying, family people. And, before you disparage the Hatians (or any other group) remember,,The majority of these people live in South Florida, Miami-Dade county in particular, and we like them being there. As to the relief sent to them after their unfortunate disaster (earthquake) the local government was almost non existent. Rememmber, over 200,000 people lost their life in a bit of land just under 11,000 square miles. I'm willing to bet that if that happened to your city you probably bend over and kiss your ass goodbye. And lastly,,,when was the last time one of these unfortunates cause you more than an embarrasement when talking with your chums?????
By phart at 13,Jan,18 14:32 other posts of phart 
All of us,me ,you, the rest of the world, needs to look at this and wonder "what did happen?" Perhaps the shithole as Trump called it would not be that way anymore if Greed and corruption were not in the way.From what I read, most the of the folks that are working there make around 150 a month. A cinderblock home like most want is 7000$. The Red Cross raised $500.000.000 dollars. Yep,500 million dollars. And where is it?
There is reason for ALL the worlds citizens to be up in arms about this. That would build 5000 homes at 100,000 apiece!
But I am just a racist because I see reality.

And Yes,Justwill, But unlike the monkey I play guitar,not banjo. And trying to get a straight answer from a liberal is about like trying to win the lottery,Fucking impossible.You find it easier to label me a racist and laugh about it instead of giving a explanation of anything different or FACTS to back up what you say. Typical of liberals,throw the race label onto anything they find offensive and move along as if facts and reality have no meaning at all. I don't know about you,but when i wake up in the mornings I am sober and have to function in the real world with my eyes open. Not 1 eye shut and high on something.

Yes there was life lost. Help was sent from all over the world.

Nothing racist about acknowledging the facts though.this is old news but evidence of what has been going on since.

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Why is it that when someone acknowledges waste and lack of desire for self improvement or preservation do they get labeled a racist?

What I told about homes rented to immigrants,is fact,and if you talk with land and homeowners they will agree,it is a problem.Costing 10's of 1000's in money to deal with.

Why is acknowledging the damage and destruction these immigrants do make that person a racist?

And no,I wouldn't kiss my ass goodbye if similar happened here. When Hugo came thru, I put on my boots the next morning and spent the next several days helping my neighbors and clearing roads.That is what people are supposed to after a disaster, put on their boots and help their neighbors and themselves.Not preach about it,nor brag,you just do it. You don't sit on the curb and cry till someone else comes along.

It was a month before a "fema" asshole came along, we told him to shove off, where was he a month ago?

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By mr_blue at 16,Jan,18 15:32 other posts of mr_blue 
Is it shit hole or shit house ?....
By JustWill at 16,Jan,18 16:15 other posts of JustWill 
A shithouse is a structure built to hide a shithole, so it really doesn't matter.
By mr_blue at 16,Jan,18 16:21 other posts of mr_blue 
wtf is going on in trumpy day care centre!!!?
By JustWill at 16,Jan,18 17:56 other posts of JustWill 
As I have said from day one: the Orange Overlord is an idiot.
By mr_blue at 16,Jan,18 18:04 other posts of mr_blue 
I'm not gonna there anyone left for him to blame !!!
By phart at 16,Jan,18 18:17 other posts of phart 
I doubt it as far as finding those to blame for Trump.He has purty much exposed everyone.And there is almost no one left for the liberals to blame either.The end is near for the buck, "blame", that has been passed.It will come to a wall and stop. Where and Then what? Will any one take responsibility for anything from either side?
By mr_blue at 16,Jan,18 18:29 other posts of mr_blue 
He hasn't exposed swamp has been drained.... he's an incompetent....and all this liberal v conservative crap is exactly why it was trump v Clinton instead of decent Americans....trump is owned by the debts he you think these financers didn't want something in return for his presidency !.... Don't be so silly matter what your baseline politics maybe.....trump and Clinton was a lose/lose situation....A career politician v an celebrity...both owned by their they are just puppets...
By phart at 17,Jan,18 11:42 other posts of phart 
I can agree it was not the best situation as far as who to vote for. It would have been nice to be able to vote for a successful large company CEO say from Microsoft or Boeing. And perhaps a prominent 3rd generation farmer of a few 1000 acres. People that understand business and how it is to work for a living. It is truth that neither person that ran for office has ever got their hands actually dirty working.Nor have they had to think their way out of a problem without 48 advisers.But we had to choose the 1 we thought was the best of the 2. A 3rd party man, no matter how good,will never make it in with the current election system.Hell they can't even get into the debates so we can hear their ideas.
Hillary was owned big time by the middle east.

By JustWill at 17,Jan,18 14:42 other posts of JustWill 
It's not really about liberal v conservative, alex. There are a great many conservatives in the States who also believe that Trump is a dangerous idiot and an embarrassment to the Office of President and the USA in general. The problem is, those conservatives are too afraid of the crazy Trump supporters not voting for them when re-election time comes around for them to speak up and denounce the Orange Overlord.
By kebmo at 18,Jan,18 10:36 other posts of kebmo 
I saw a great one on CTV Canadian news last week.

President Trump: "“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here? We should bring in more people from places like Norway."
Norwegian citizen responding to the comment: "Why would I want to go to a shithole country like the United States."
By JustWill at 18,Jan,18 11:47 other posts of JustWill 
The Orange Overlord keeps talking about "fake news". My question is: why aren't more Americans talking about our fake president?
By phart at 18,Jan,18 16:03 other posts of phart 
It didn't do a bit of good to talk about the fake 1 we just got rid of.

Besides, we just happen to have a Pres now that says what he thinks. And some of us agree,the media are a bunch of bloodsucking liars who's intentions are to keep tensions high and profit from it.

If Trump was a peaceful, yes man and Little Rocket man was not making noise,what would the media be doing right now? Stirring up shit somewhere else.

The days of Walter Kronkite and honest reporting have been long gone. Today the news is all about making money off stirring up peoples emotions. The more riots and fuss's they can start, the more shit they can report on and continue the racket.

Why do you think Warren Buffet bought up so many news papers? He didn't become rich being stupid.
Another thing,if you can control what the people know about what is going on around them, Essentially you control them. If it was not for a few folks that are considered right wing extremist by the media,we would never see the other side of the story.

By Andthisisme at 18,Jan,18 16:34 other posts of Andthisisme 
What sort of President tweets his own 'Fake News Awards'?

President Trump certainly does have his own loyal constituency, who totally believe his 'Fake News' narrative and have totally swallowed the whole media conspiracy theory and to these people he can do no wrong.

If President Trump is scary, and he is, the fact that so many Americans believe he is the fount of truth and all the other media are liars peddling 'fake news' is far far more scary.
By JustWill at 18,Jan,18 17:15 other posts of JustWill 
Why is it that none of his supporters can see how incredibly petty he behaves?
He doesn't say what he thinks, he says what his "minders" TELL him to think...which is subject to change at a moment's notice.
Currently, he is holding the welfare of two different groups of ch1ldren (the 'dreamers' and the CHIP k1ds) hostage because no one wants to fund his stupid wall.
By phart at 18,Jan,18 20:00 other posts of phart 
Trump is well off enough that no one owns him,that is some of the fake news shit the lib tards spewed up.

If the wall is built, perhaps less kidds will be affected in the future by their parents desire to "sneek" into another country and milk it for all it's worth.
Would it not be more humane to prevent problems in the first place than having to deal with the results later?

By Andthisisme at 19,Jan,18 04:58 other posts of Andthisisme 
I am not sure that he does always say what his minders think. I believe his tweets are the genuine Donald. What he says afterwards when the tweet has caused a furore is often what his minders suggest. The earlier tweet is what he really believes though.

Let’s be fair to Trump the behaviour of both party organisations in Congress is, and has been for so long now, disgraceful. Here Trump is right, not often that I say that, neither party looks to do what is right but instead they do what their particular powerful pressure groups demand. Congress at times does appear to be a swamp that needs draining. How can congressmen and women **** at night knowing these **** are going to suffer as a result of their stupidity?
By phart at 19,Jan,18 10:20 other posts of phart 
As long as the people let both parties behave this way, a 3rd party guy will not have a chance. That needs to change.we need more than just 2 to pick from.
By Andthisisme at 19,Jan,18 16:55 other posts of Andthisisme 
It is so difficult for 3rd parties to survive in the UK. Over the years that have been 3rd parties that have done well for a few years but eventually they have all fallen apart. People who vote for them in an effort to start change almost always seem to revert to one of the 2 major parties after not very long. I think in the U.S the difficulties will be even greater.

By cody8789 at 18,Jan,18 18:21 other posts of cody8789 
I live in a shithole country (u.s.)
By phart at 19,Jan,18 10:20 other posts of phart 
well 1 day maby it will get better.

By phart at 17,Jan,18 20:08 other posts of phart 
Ok here is a question that will get everyone talking.

In 2020 American's will again be going to the voting booths to Supposedly help decide who our next leader will be.
Oh there might be some dimpled chads or hacked voting machines but when the shit stops splattering there will be a new leader to the Free world.

Who do you feel like SHOULD run for office?
Let's get past race.Let's get past gender and who they would rather grab in the crotch.
Let's get down to the meat of the matter and look at just WHO would make a good leader of this country? WHO do YOU think would get people back to work, make the country safe from terrorism, bring some stability to this country?

Frankly when i sit back and really think about this question,I come up damn near clueless.
Lee Iacocca is to old, Bill Gates, he would have everyone's toaster required to run on Windows 18.3 by 2023.
Damn, just who would make a good President? You can't go down to the local Hardee's and pickup a janitor and put him up for office.
We have had farmers,actors,business men, lawyers in there and all of them,the other side digs dirt up on them.
With the way things are now,a smart man would be, well to damn smart to put himself up for the job.

I despise what I have had to do the past several elections,vote for the lesser of the 2 evils. For once I would like to see qualified people run .But who is qualified?.
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hehe,very strange,people openly and proudly criticize our President,act and talk like their Hillary or bernie are better and blah blah blah. But ask them who would be better to fill the shoes of the Prez and no response. Makes you wonder if they would ever be happy with who's in there, even if they voted for them.
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Several days have gone by and still, no one has thrown a name out.

By phart at 10,Jan,18 16:16 other posts of phart 
Let me ask a question.
maby 2
For a while now alot of states have made gay marriage legal,legalized pot,and so on. Things that most religious folk consider immoral and wrong.
But the 1 thing that makes no sense,is no one is pushing to legalize prostitution.WHY is that?
Things to consider.
Well for 1, it is considered immoral,so the liberals should be tickled pink to slide another past the religious folks.. It is difficult to regulate. Another reason the libs should like it.I mean in California they don't even track pot plants to know which is legal and which aint.

Think about this for a moment before you shoot me.
ok,why do most guys go to a bar? to drink and hope to get laid. What happens most of the time is they just get DRUNK.
And then they drive home,risking your lives and theirs.
What causes alot of domestic ****? The man can't get any pussy and gets pissed off and drunk.
What causes a woman to get dressed and leave home to go "play cards at a friends house"? They go get some dick because the husband had worked all day and is to tired to fuck. When she gets plenty from the other guy she runs off with him and divorces the hard working guy. That then becomes yet another drunk at the bar.

What I am saying is if prostitution was legal, a single man could go home after work,shower,go to town and pick a nice looking lady who has been screened for health issues and pay for the service he desires, and go home SOBER. And would be able to mow the grass the next morning because he would not be hung over.
The employees could be screened for health concerns, earn a good wage and tips, the customers could get what they want in a healthier safer ,discrete way.
And taxes could be collected helping state budgets. And another thing,a single man,like myself,would be in better health because some level of activity would be good for the prostate and for the mental health. The health benefits alone would justify health insurance to help pay for x number of visits per year to maintain mental health and prostate health.
A Win win win if you ask me.
By leopoldij at 10,Jan,18 18:32 other posts of leopoldij 
What you say makes perfect sense. And it is so in many, but not too many, countries. There's a reason that there's a single profession that's been continuously around for at least 4 thousand years, and that's prostitution. No matter how many prohibitions, it won't go away. Yes, the best approach is recognition of it and acceptance. Any kind of laws suppressing it only lead to making the profession dangerous with lots of unpleasant consequences. Effort should 've put into fair treatment, getting rid of abuse and trafficking, but that can and should be done.

By #482237 at 07,Jan,18 17:50
I find it sad that when all these women came out with their complaints, originally, they were hushed up,,forced to take a settlement or had to leave their work because men controlled businesses did not want to get involved. Now, it's all coming out and what do we hear??? Well,,they are innocent until proven guilty. Some may be, or maybe it was innocent, but, by and large these men are scum and a court of law wont change that. BTW, I'm sure there are women that are scum too.
By phart at 07,Jan,18 23:19 other posts of phart 
Some claims of violations are true I am sure but the claims have gotten to epidemic proportions and the media and the public are convicting the men before anything can be proven or not. Those that are innocent,deserve justice as well as the victims of the guilty.

Think Salem witch hunts as comparison. You didn't like your neighbor, call her a witch and she was killed.No proof,nothing.
I know the justice system can do nothing to restore the women's lives that have been affected.It is a deficiency that can't really be fixed.
The only legal ways to deal punishment are money, or jail time or community service for examples.
No way of giving the woman back her life that was affected.
But I still see things every day where a waitress will wink at a older man and smile. The older man says something a bit risky and nothing is said by the gal but maby a smile or they get busy filling someones tea or something. I don't see pat's on the butt or anything of that sort where I go eat.But I am sure it happens in other places. The women need to turn around and give that arm a twist in the wrong direction or something and nip the behavior in the bud. And stop winking at old men and wearing jeans that look tattooed on their rumps.That is advertising.
By #482237 at 08,Jan,18 04:18
Wait,,,are you saying if I wear a halter top and short shorts I'm fair game because I "advertise "?

By #482237 at 08,Jan,18 04:31
I understand that we sell sex in many professions, a waitress will make more tips if she's friendly and dresses provocatively. That is her choice even though social problems may **** her to work there. But,what if she's a professional ______________(fill in ). She's attractive, dresses well (not provocative ) and doesn't flirt. Her boss touches her all the time. He touches his junk when he sees her and tells her she's missing out. And tells her that her boobs are perky today. How should she feel. Remember, he can fire her at any time.
By phart at 08,Jan,18 10:13 other posts of phart 
just because we disagree or don't see things eye to eye does not mean I am trying to be a butt,I just see things from a different perspective than most.

I don't mean to sound like all women should wear feed sacks and burka's. But as you said,a waitress knows she will make more tips according to how she dress's. So she is putting income above all else. It is a choice she made. There are repercussions for all choices. And if wrong is committed like groping and such, deal with it and get justice. But if no hands or nasty words are involved, she should move along and enjoy the attention and income.

Short shorts and halter tops do draw attention to a woman. Women know this. Yes they have the right to wear it. But to walk in public and not be acknowledged is impossible. To a point, a nice looking lady should be in shock she does not get a wolf whistle or a " You look great today mam".

But to walk around like that,and then get all pissed about the attention you draw is kinda dumb.If you don't like friendly comments and attention, wear loose jeans and tshirts.

let me turn this in another direction. I don't know if I can get my point across or not but I will try.

You are a male business owner. You hire a lady to do your accounting and answer the phone. She comes to work wearing a short skirt every day and when she passes by the window at your office and you see her unbutton her blouse so her cleavage shows before she walks in with some paper work. You are single and successful and after weeks of this you begin to wonder if the lady has interest in you.

Then you think a bit longer. 1 wrong word from your mouth and she can have you down town for "harassment" 1 wrong word and your business is down the tubes. All the time she is walking around with a dripping puss getting her kicks tearing you apart emotionally ,just hoping she can tear you down publicly on the tv and newspaper and then move on to the next victim.
Or,perhaps she is a wonderful woman who simply has the hots for you as a man.But goes home at night with her self esteem in the toilet. "just what am I doing wrong?Is my boss a fag, I want to date him and I have done everything I can to get his attention and he just looks at me with fear in his eyes!"
Women that are abusing the system are making it hard for women that WANT To meet men and such. Messing up their bed so to speak.

Men have been living in fear of this type of abuse of power for decades. no of course you don't hear about it. It is embarrassing to men to acknowledge they fear women.

Women know they have the power to destroy a empire.It is the power of the pussy.And a few are abusing it now more than ever.
By #482237 at 08,Jan,18 13:21
Baby,,,first,,you are not nor do i think you'll ever be a BUTT. Second,,yes,,there are women that seek the wolf whistle,,but, not the touch. And, until recently, women were put down harshly if they started a relation. They could only wait until their hopeful guy would make a move. In that respect they have to and had to play it strong. Look, if you come to me and tell me i'm beautiful and would like nothing less than to be my lover, I would react either positively or, maybe i'm not attracted to you. If i'm not and tell you to leave me alone, That's all there is. But, if you persist, then you are in the wrong. I don't believe a man has to tip toe around women,,,just be considerate
By phart at 08,Jan,18 17:17 other posts of phart 
Wow,have you considered giving college course's?
Common sense and respect would work well given the chance.

By #543863 at 27,Dec,17 12:28
Leopolda posting yet again, what he perceives is "socially popular" looking for attention and trying to sound like he has a brain.


By phart at 29,Dec,17 18:19 other posts of phart 
He has a brain.
We all do,or we couldn't breath and obtain erections.
No group of people over 2 can agree on everything. And if you try to make everyone else happy, you will only find it a fruitless task and you will never know happiness yourself.

sometimes the discussions seem fruitless,sometime folks get a bit mean. But it is the internet and I can unplug and live on!
By leopoldij at 07,Jan,18 16:16 other posts of leopoldij 
We often disagree, but we do acknowledge that each has their mental faculties in the right place. I think you do. There's a big difference between disagreement and calling each other names. We just happen to be, sometimes, but not always, on different camps. So what? I'm sure we'd agree on several things, such as beer and sex. 😉
By phart at 07,Jan,18 16:43 other posts of phart 
sex yea, beer no. No alchol for me,lost family to that stuff,and if there is a chance of it being gene related don't want to turn that switch on in my gut! My memory is failing fast enough sober,I wouldn't remember where to stick a dick drunk!
By #482237 at 07,Jan,18 17:44
Don't worry,,,i'm sure your partner would guide you,,hahaha

By leopoldij at 07,Jan,18 19:20 other posts of leopoldij 
See? We disagree here, but, hey, you got your reasons, and I respect that. I'll treat you to lemonade next time we meet then. 😊

By #482237 at 07,Jan,18 17:53
I have a question, don't take it wrong, please. I tried finding your page by using 543863 and was not able to. Is this a new type of account?? I'm not too familiar with the way things work here.
By leopoldij at 07,Jan,18 19:19 other posts of leopoldij 
Let me answer your question. This was probably someone who was found to be a troll and hence had his account deleted.
By #482237 at 08,Jan,18 06:34
thank you

By mr_blue at 13,Dec,17 00:43 other posts of mr_blue 
Now a Democrat will represent Alabama in the Senate.
By JustWill at 13,Dec,17 11:54 other posts of JustWill 
Apparently, a Democrat IS better than a ch1ld m0lester!
By kebmo at 13,Dec,17 20:41 other posts of kebmo 
Barely, according to Alabama voters.
By phart at 13,Dec,17 21:38 other posts of phart 
Well,was the supposed molester ever charged,tried or convicted of a crime? HUM, Seems more like a smear campaign to me.IF the democrats have to cheat and are willing to do so to win a senate seat,what else are they willing to cheat on and who else might they cheat? The state of Alabama perhaps? Think about that before you bash me.

This epidemic of accusations against people in high places will end sooner or later and there will be some accusers setting on their ass's answering for the slander in court.

As for democrat or repub,if you watch the news any at all, there is some from both party's being accused of not being able to keep their hands in their pockets and their pants up. It seems everyone is human and horny.
By leopoldij at 13,Dec,17 21:46 other posts of leopoldij 
Everyone is horny. Right. There would have been fewer offences if people could be open and if people got the sex they need. Many times, for many, This is hard.
By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 18:13 other posts of onthelose 
Women certainly don't want to relinquish their hold on sex. So some men have chosen to go to other men for sex. Is a pat on the butt or a unwanted kiss in the same category as **** or exposing yourself. This simply for some a power grab.
By phart at 29,Dec,17 18:14 other posts of phart 
I honestly feel like probably 25% or so of the claims are real and the men should be punished once proven.But a pat on the butt or a quick hug,is NOT r@pe.R@pe is a violent taking of a woman's body and doing physical harm to her and should be punished at the least by castration or penis removal. But most of these cases are just as you said,a power grab.""ha ha ha,look what I can do,I can tell a lie and destroy a mans career and get on tv and get a good check from George Soros."!

By kebmo at 13,Dec,17 23:03 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, do you feel that the other dozens of men who resigned or were fired without charge or conviction on sexual assault charges the victims of smear campaigns too or just this one politician?

The "epidemic of accusations" will not end with people in high places. There are thousands of accusations to come from the bad restaurant managers to the bad relatives to the hundreds of offices where this behaviour is happening. The bubble has burst and the (predominantly) men in authority positions that have committed these crimes are all shaking in their boots now... as they should be, their day will come too. This is only the beginning!
By phart at 14,Dec,17 10:38 other posts of phart 
In the US there used to be something called Innocent until proven guilty. But it seems the public and the media are all jumping on the band wagon of guilty if we think so and screw your rights.

OK,so there are some guilty folks.BUT why in the hell are the "victims" waiting until the men are at the peak of their lives to "come out" with all this?

You don't have to be convicted in the media's eyes nor the public eye to be ruined as far as reputation is concerned.Just a glimmer of suspicion is all it takes to drive people to suicide as was in the news this morning. A elected official "accused" of some sex act killed himself.

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Guilty or not, did his family deserve this? Why didn't the "victim" do something when she was 17 instead of waiting? Look who is suffering now, a entire family.He knew even if he proved his innocence his career was over,his marriage was probably over,all was lost. This is why I get pissed about things like this, it is the innocent that pay with the rest of their lives because of a accusation of something from years ago that can not be proven.

IF SHE is telling lie's ,I hope she chokes on the check George Soro's minions wrote her for "coming out" with her claims.Guilty or not,His blo0d is on her hands now. Was it so bad it is worth forc1ng a man to give up and kill himself? I hope the mans family has enough money and influence to be able to investigate the "victims" claims and if it comes out she lied,I hope they sue her ass to hell.

NOTE I said IF she is telling lies,not if she is telling the truth.But far as I am concerned,his death is her fault.She could have came out with this years ago,dealt with it and both parties could have resumed their lives.Her suffering would have been over,if there was any. Probably just a grabbed ass and a smile was all it was .
By JustWill at 14,Dec,17 12:08 other posts of JustWill 
Okay, I will give this a shot, but am pretty sure it will fall on deaf ears:

She didn't do something when she was 17 because she was ashamed, afraid of repercussions by her abuser or ridicule from her friends and family, felt that she was somehow responsible for what happened to her, didn't think she would be believed, would be called a slut, would have the fact that she was sexually victimized follow her for the rest of her life, didn't think that anyone would care, that she would be humiliated further in a courtroom, that everyone would blame her, or any combination of those reasons.

There are psychological factors involved for the victims of sexual assault that folks like you just don't understand or wish to totally ignore. "Victim Blaming"--such as what you are doing now--is the way things tend to work in our society and legal system. That's just the way it is. Hell, Trump actually defended himself against one of his accusers by saying that she was too ugly for him to have assaulted!

And, fuck the guy's family. Every criminal has a family. It's not the fault of the criminal's victims that the guy who assaulted them has a wife and kids.
By phart at 14,Dec,17 17:09 other posts of phart 
He nor most of the others have been tried and PROVEN to be criminals. That must be falling on deaf ears as well.

Guilty people should pay for their crimes promptly afterward.
The innocent should be vindicated promptly.
By JustWill at 14,Dec,17 18:02 other posts of JustWill 
Yep...just how I expected you to respond.

By Andthisisme at 14,Dec,17 17:59 other posts of Andthisisme 
I am really very concerned that in both the UK and the US an allegation of abuse is being taken as proof positive of abuse and people are being pressured into resigning or companies into firing employees/executives.
In none of the recent cases has an investigation been completed or a court case heard.
if an allegation is made against somone it may be appropriate for that person to be suspended or to be put on gardening leave while an investigation is carried out but throughout this period until the results of a trial or an investigation is completed the accused should be presumed innocent not asssumed guilty.
The socail media and indeed mainstream media sometimes seem to be engaged in a modern day version of 'lynch law'.
By phart at 14,Dec,17 19:20 other posts of phart 
thank you,you put it in terms maby someone else can understand.

By kebmo at 14,Dec,17 20:41 other posts of kebmo 
Andthisisme, AN allegation and 5-10 allegations are two very different situations. If I were accused of sexual assault and didn't do it I would vehemently deny such allegations. Correction: I would be FREAKING OUT all over the news AND my lawyers would be very busy with the slander and defamation of character suits. If these guys aren't guilty why aren't they saying so? I know Moore is denying it but when nine women accuse him of such behaviour there's a lot of credence to the allegations. Why isn't Moore yelling about how his lawyers will sue all of these "liars"?
By phart at 14,Dec,17 22:15 other posts of phart 
Legit question Kebmo but to be honest,what good would it do? Perhaps there is more behind the scenes than the media lets us know about. Both sides of this have to remember the media enjoys creating hostility and fueling both sides of the fight like a bunch of assholes fighting chickens or something.

By Andthisisme at 15,Dec,17 15:25 other posts of Andthisisme 
I hear what you are saying and I agree that when there are multiple women making accusations that is disturbing, but until these accusations have been tested in court they are accusations not confirmed facts.

As for why aren't these people who are accused going to their lawyers? That is a good question. Possibly the allegations may be correct but another view is that to go to law would give greater media coverage for the allegations.

Would you want one of your family members convicted of an offence on the basis of an allegation alone and with no due process?

We have had a case here today where on the very day that a young male was to stand trial for 6 rapes and 6 sexual assaults on the same woman the PROSECUTION forced the police to hand over evidence that they knew they they had and that disproved the victims story, to the defence. Without this evidence that the police witheld, for whatever reason, this young man could have gone to prison for many years.

So all I am saying is don't judge by allegation alone.
By phart at 23,Dec,17 14:07 other posts of phart 
Well there is a situation now with a major football team owner.The Charlotte panthers.

The owner has been accused,not charged mind you,but accused of sexual misconduct.

Now he has said he will sell the team and withdraw due to NFL investigations.

Ok, lets look at this. The city is up in turmoil concerned about the multi-million dollar stadium that may be vacant if the new owner moves the team. Local hotels,restaurants and other business's that support the sporting event are staring down the barrel of reduced business if not having to close down for good.Putting 100's out of work.

All because of a accusation. Millions of dollars at stake.Because some woman waited for God only knows how long to whine about getting her ass groped.

Again, if the event was so traumatic,why didn't she report when it happened? And why is it acceptable for all this financial loss to occur over a ass groping or tit pinching or whatever she is "CLAIMING" happened. But has not PROVEN a damn thing?

It is not just a matter of justice in this case. Justice could have been dealt swiftly with only the guilty suffering shortly after it happened.But now,100's of people could loose work. She should have to produce PROOF, they all should have to before negative effects are passed on to the guilty.

It is not just "fuck the family" if you have that same mindset in this case, you are saying "Fuck a whole city of innocent people".
The needs of the majority should be held higher than the claims of miss conduct by 1 person.
By Andthisisme at 23,Dec,17 17:18 other posts of Andthisisme 
Whilst I may not agree with everything that you say I do totally agree that this current fervour for believing a claim to be true just because it has been made should concern everyone.
This is not natural justice or indeed any kind of justice.
I am not going to judge the claims that have been made as I have not seen any evidence, but I totally agree there should be a speedy investigation where the evidence can be tested.

By #546924 at 29,Dec,17 18:05
Tell that to the baby girl he ****!

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 18:02 other posts of onthelose 
Here in the US we have a presumption of innocence, but the liberal media sees themselves as judge and jury when it comes to Republicans. This goes for all the accusers out t here now. As bad as some of the accusations are they all deserve their day in court. A black man was just released after many years in prison because the woman says she made a mistake identifying him. Only Dna evidence cleared him. How many more are out there unjustly accused by females or others too eager to get another notch on their belts..

By #482237 at 07,Jan,18 17:37

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 17:48 other posts of onthelose 
Only because Steve Bannon pushed Roy Moore to run. Dems want to claim this as a victory and a portent of the future.. the only reason they won is because Moore was such a flawed candidate. Else where recently in red states Republicans have won. Virginia is blue state. Dems are most effective at dirty politics, knowing they had this on Moore and waited to out him after he won primary. He would have never won if this was out there in the primary.

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 18:16 other posts of onthelose 
Not for long there will be another election, as his term is only to run out Jeff Sessions remaining term.
By #543863 at 27,Dec,17 14:20
The scummy dems had to go on in to win this one... the cheating and lies will everywhere...

Gloria Allred should be disbarred...

GOP did a shit job of finding a good candidate then fought with themselves...
By #482237 at 07,Jan,18 17:39
Why scummy??? Because they don't support your politics?? this country is fairly evenly divided between Republicans and Democrats. Most, on both parties are decent people. It's not right to paint them with a broad brush. If you have a complaint about one, address it to him or her

By #543863 at 27,Dec,17 14:03
where the fuck is Alabama??
By phart at 29,Dec,17 18:16 other posts of phart 
it is down in the southern US.
Never been there. Looks nice on tv.
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I am surprised you all aint jumped all over this shit about the porn star that has the "Make America Horny Again" campaign going. only registered users can see external links

1 of Trumps lawyers is said to have set up a corporation, paid her 130,000+ dollars to be quite about her "encounter" with Mr Trump and now she took the money and is STILL Blabbing about it.
Now Let's look at this a moment.To keep the liberals awake during the conversation we will assume Trump banged her like a bass drum .
She signed a agreement to SHUT UP about it for 130,000$.
She is now in violation of a contract.
Now as a American,I know that if I sign a contract and I violate it,I am supposed to be held accountable,perhaps fined,sued,whatever. So hopefully Trumps lawyers will go after her and clean her clock.
Face it,If she is willing to sign her name to a contract and willfully violate it, she is obviously dishonest. So why in the hell should we believe her about the sex with Trump? Hell he is 70 now anyhow, He was just bragging about taking aspirin yesterday, are we sure he can do much more than grab at his age?

By JustWill at 27,Dec,17 15:34 other posts of JustWill 
The Orange Overlord has declared that, thanks to him, it is now "safe" to say Merry Christmas again!

Remember, he is also the guy who made it "safe" to say "grab 'em by the pussy", so...there is that.
By phart at 27,Dec,17 17:56 other posts of phart 
Would you rather he said "grab them by the dick"?

Neither is a real issue as all this was before he became president and apparently the gals liked it or they would be spewing and whining on tv about it.

By the way, I hope you had a MERRY CHRISTMAS!

By CountryCouple54 at 14,Dec,17 22:32 other posts of CountryCouple54 
All I know is, it's bullshit that I'm going to have to pay for Google' now. How the fuck will I function?
By kebmo at 15,Dec,17 01:22 other posts of kebmo 
Google it.

By #543863 at 27,Dec,17 14:03
what you talkin about Willis??

By leopoldij at 23,Dec,17 19:18 other posts of leopoldij 
Q1: Why does Trump (and the US administration) like Saudi Arabia so much?

Q2: Did Trump actually know, a year or two ago, where Saudi Arabia is?

By leopoldij at 21,Dec,17 14:15 other posts of leopoldij 
Q1: Why does Trump (and the US administration) like the state of Israel so much?

Q2: Did Trump actually know, a year or two ago, where Israel is?
By phart at 21,Dec,17 22:23 other posts of phart 
I think the eventual goal of stability of Israel would be so it can set a example for other country's to follow.
It is also mentioned in the Bible supporting Israel is the right thing to do.Although they don't act like it most of the time,most of the US government members claim to be Christian.
So they are working towards the goals they were taught are right and also those of the majority of their constituents, representing their people in other words.
Trump knows alot more than he lets on.The fact his enemy's think he is a dumbass is just another of his tools to get things done the way he wants..
By leopoldij at 22,Dec,17 12:45 other posts of leopoldij 
By phart at 22,Dec,17 22:33 other posts of phart 
And I suppose you must know the "facts" right?

None of us do, all we can do is think for ourselves and theorize.

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 18:07 other posts of onthelose 
There certainly is a lot of the Trump derangement syndrome out there. I can see why because he is dismantling the socialist agenda like he was elected to do. If I were a socialist and for 8 years we made more progress than in the last 50 years only to see it all fall apart , I would be out of my mind too.

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 18:28 other posts of onthelose 
Sadly this is the supposed orgin of the human species, which makes this region really old, and they still aren't anymore advanced then some third world country's.

By Andthisisme at 23,Dec,17 11:48 other posts of Andthisisme 
I believe this was one of his campaign pledges. i don't imagine that it had anything to do with the heritage of any of the big financial donors to his campaign.
There are many more ethnic/cultural and race lobbies in the U.S than almost anywhere else.
So often U.S decisions are made to please/appease a particular lobby group.
Money is a very powerful persuader.
By phart at 23,Dec,17 13:56 other posts of phart 
You know,sadly you are right about the money.It don't matter what side of the fence you are on,money moves mountains.
But you know I got to thinking about it. Since we are all aware the media has a real problem with sharing the truth about anything but they love to spread profitable rumors, we don't really know what Trump or anyone else knows. We only know what the media tells us they know.

By onthelose at 23,Dec,17 17:53 other posts of onthelose 
Yes he did I am sure. Why do you like the Arab states so much??? Are the Jews out there killing hundreds of their own people at a time because they are Shiites or Sunnis.

By #482237 at 21,Dec,17 12:50
/private_chat.php?w=543863 whistle keeps ragging me,,,is he right in the head??
By leopoldij at 21,Dec,17 14:13 other posts of leopoldij 
Don't post links to private chats. They WON'T appear in public. That's why they're private.

You may, and can, copy and paste content. But not links. Me entiendes?
By #482237 at 21,Dec,17 14:18
yes, Daddy,,

By licksipsuckit at 05,Nov,17 21:49 other posts of licksipsuckit 
wow, cant even go to church in a small country town and not get mowed down like ducks on a shooting range, l guess that goes to prove, you really do love guns in America and the saying, 'let god sort them out', well god didn't help those poor suckers and neither did the gun toting masses or the laxed laws.. again, natural selections finest work, let the guns do the talking and paramedics do the walking.. you think after the Sunnyvale school incident, that gun laws would be tightened, but since the country believes in baring arms, this is the consequence of the seeds you sow...god bless America, because you certainly need something over there.. and just wait till those thousands of sleeper terrorists get going, the fun hasn't even begun yet... theres plenty more to come *lix*
By Rob00 at 05,Nov,17 22:00 other posts of Rob00 
Well said, my friend

By Andthisisme at 06,Nov,17 07:49 other posts of Andthisisme 
We know, because we have been told by no less than the President, and of course by many others, than gun ownership is not the problem.

The majority of 'gun massacres' in the US are totally unrelated to terrorism.

I accept that many countries do have the occasional mass killing, often involving guns. Hungerford and Dublane in the UK come to mind and of course Anders Brevik in Norway. These are rare and very unusual though.

In the US these types of event are common and all too frequent.

So here is my question if it is not gun ownership what is it about American society or the American psyche that leads people to commit these atrocities on a very frequent and regular basis?
By #435701 at 04,Dec,17 14:26
Wouldn't be just us 'Muricahns' (John Wayne drawl) that commit these atrocities if every country in the World had our stupidly easy access to guns...We can get guns of all types. Anywhere, anytime you want a gun, come to America! We have em! Guns, guns, guns every frickin' where! All in a supposedly moral and ethical country. Where there are around 30,000 gun deaths per year...Here's my point. If the UK, Europe, etc...hell EVEN Russian citizenry...had the totally easy access to guns we Muricahns have, you would not be asking if it's just American Society or our psyche that is the blame for these totally fucked up mass shootings/atrocities.Because gun deaths would be as rampant in your country/countries as it is here in 'Muricha the Beautiful'...Humanity has NEVER evolved beyond ****. I use the World situation as proof that has not happened...Wars, killings, murders, beheadings posted on social media and in the news just prove we 'humans' have never gotten over our animalistic and violent instincts. Guns just make it stupidly EASY to kill another human with just a trigger pull when one is in a blind rage...apparently that happens quite often no matter where one lives on this planet...funny thing. I am a gun owner. Simply because I live in Muricah among lots of crazy people with guns! How fucked up is THAT?
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By leopoldij at 06,Nov,17 07:51 other posts of leopoldij 
You're talking about this, right?
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It's not the first time, in Texas shooting in churches has happened before:
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As well-known, the law allowed people to carry guns and many people do. But it's not enough. Church-goers should be, by law, not permitted in church unless they carry a gun and know how to use it. Not concealed, of course. Those who cannot afford to buy a gun should be given one by the church upon entrance.
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The Sunday prayer should be replaced by the following hymn:

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GOD made the an1mals, GOD made the trees
GOD made you and hell he even made me
He gave me this voice so I could be a singer
So you tell me why I've got a trigger finger
I like GUNS I like the way they look
I like the shining steel and the polished wood
I don't care if they're big or small
If they're for sale - hell I wanna them all
I like GUNS, I like GUNS, I like GUNS

Try to sing it, it's catchy.
By phart at 06,Nov,17 09:42 other posts of phart 
Terrible tragedy,and once again,leave it to the anti-gunners folks,blame it on the guns. Well,what you seem to leave out,is a neighbor to the church WITH A GUN,stopped the mess from getting worse. I wonder if he had went with a ball bat if he coulda stopped the guy? It is the fucking IDIOTS AND criminals holding the guns that are killing!
the shooter was wearing all black and supported the anti-fa movement,all part of their little civil war. Well this particular asshole got his just deserts,bleeding to death.
By leopoldij at 06,Nov,17 15:56 other posts of leopoldij 
You're probably right. You have a point.

However, why does this not happen in other countries as much?
By licksipsuckit at 06,Nov,17 18:52 other posts of licksipsuckit 
they say in Texas, everyone walks on egg shells, wondering if the next 'maniac' is just around the corner, as more Texans have guns than any other state, you don't need a mental condition to shoot people, you might just have a bad day, have the shits like this idiot had, h@ted his mother in law, as most men do, and had a blue with her that morning, gee, lets blame the phone company for the nasty texting he and her made that morning, or technology for transporting the message, or the schools for not teaching phone and text etiquette, or the parents for not teaching him self control or society for being dicks and voting for this kind of shit to keep happening... l really don't care what the reason is, if he didn't have such easy access to weapons, Joe Blow wouldn't have one and might have used his mouth instead of bullets to let her know how he felt, and as for the dude shooting him, well and good, but he would have run out of bullets at some point, that just saved the tax payers a long and drawn out court case and the subsequent prison bill he would incur for life in jail. the saying here for this kind of incident, is 'you cant educate idiots' ... they'll always have an excuse to keep guns and as usual, the gun sales go through the roof after these incidents and we can only expect more dead in the future .. sow them seeds and reap the rewards America *lix*
By leopoldij at 07,Nov,17 06:30 other posts of leopoldij 
Texas is the only state where students bring guns in classes.

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Some of them protested by bringing sex toys instead

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By kebmo at 22,Nov,17 09:59 other posts of kebmo 
I've heard about the sex toy thing. A great idea but most people think it's wrong.
By leopoldij at 22,Nov,17 17:23 other posts of leopoldij 
Well, sure, but at least it's not dangerous. Bringing a gun in class is more wrong and dangerous. Bringing a dildo in class it's only (for some) wrong but not dangerous. That's the point of the protesters. But the NDA is not as strong as the NRA.

(NDA = National Dildo Association)
By kebmo at 22,Nov,17 21:47 other posts of kebmo 
Dildos don't fuck people, people fuck people.
By phart at 22,Nov,17 22:10 other posts of phart 
And people fuck themselves! The dildo is just a tool.
By leopoldij at 23,Nov,17 07:54 other posts of leopoldij 
Hey, how about a double tool? A dildo with a gun, dual usage.
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By dgraff at 25,Nov,17 09:06 other posts of dgraff 
Because your country has taken all your rights away you people walk around like puppets on a string you do what they say when they say your not free at all
By phart at 25,Nov,17 09:31 other posts of phart 
As Americans our string is just a bit longer is all. But as least most of us have a fighting chance thanks to the very tools some want to away from us.

By leopoldij at 25,Nov,17 10:20 other posts of leopoldij 
You are partially right with what you say. "My" country (although you don't really know which one it is, and neither do I) has, indeed, been restricting people more and more. What is happening nowadays, is the end of nation-states as we know them. It's the rise of globalized corporation control. Being a German, for example, will, sooner or later, be an illusion. Working for BMW is what would identify a person. The identification will be controlled and monitored. You and I discussing our rights, or not, as citizens of country A or B makes those in power (and these are not the obvious ones, like Trump or Merkel or Macron, they are all puppets) laugh. In fact, they laugh at us at this very moment. Our data are being shared, analyzed and classified.

So, everyone is walking around like a puppet on a string. Even in the US, people have no say about what's going to be decided by the government. Likewise in Europe. And Asia. And so on. There's no such thing as freedom. Jefferson would not recognize your country as his country today.

The dildo vs gun thing above was, of course, supposed to be a joke. I'm very sarcastic and cynical and will continue to be so, because one should never believe, trust or rely on anything.

Now, the thing is we should stop killing ourselves. Think why ownership of guns is so much encouraged. The most fundamental reason is that some people make (a lot of) money from gun sales. And if those guns are used to kill some who cares, they think. Keep the money rolling.
By dgraff at 25,Nov,17 13:47 other posts of dgraff 
I live out in the sticks far enough we're I don't care what my government is doing or any one else's its my laws apply out here
By leopoldij at 25,Nov,17 14:42 other posts of leopoldij 
Fair enough. You're free. The majority of people, including me, aren't.

By #435701 at 04,Dec,17 15:31
God all frickin' mighty!...Ya know. I like you leopoldij...but REALLY? Guns in church???...keep in mind I am saying this as a complete atheist...but EVEN I know a truly Christian God would not like what you have just espoused. What happened to the 10 Commandments that practically NOBODY on this ENTIRE planet lives by?...Catchy poem. I like it. And guns are PRETTY. I even own one. It's extremely pretty in such a deadly, cool way...but god did NOT give you (or me) a trigger finger as there WERE no guns when the fable of Adam n Eve was written...Really. Think about what you are saying. Your God wants ****? And he loves America over OTHER countries on the planet he created? When the 'Bibble' was written 2,000 years ago by men with many human frailties, the current countries on the face of this planet did NOT exist...Ever see that picture one of the Voyager spacecraft took of Earth from billions of miles away? Our planet was caught in a sunbeam of light and Carl Sagan called us a 'mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.'...Your god created the Universe. Do you REALLY think he has time for our trivial **** with our guns during our infinitesimally SHORT lives?...Or that we carry guns in his churches?...Actually if he existed, he would NOT give one goddamn...If he really cared at all about our tiny planet...why does he let all the absolutely horrible things happen to us humans? And don't go into 'Hey Zues' (jesus) and how he 'saved' us all from our (future) sins.
You're a smart guy. Think just a little before saying and posting this drivel...
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By phart at 04,Dec,17 19:33 other posts of phart 
It is quite common now that alot churches have designated people with concealed carry permits sitting near doors and such. Alot of preachers now have concealed carry.It is just the way it will have to be in the future to protect the peoples freedom of religion from the terrorist and assholes. And I am sorry but the asshole that shot up this church is or was a terrorist. He terrorized people. Calling it anything else is naive at best.
If you think the earth is a spec of dust,what are we? Amoeba's on the spec of dust? Just because we are a spec in the big scheme of things we are just supposed to sit around on our hands and wait for a terrorist or asshole to come shoot,rob,r@pe us or whatever? wrong,not this amoeba.

By #482237 at 13,Dec,17 09:25
I **** guns,,,i was always afraid of an accident. I grew up in a family where the men all owned guns from puberty up. I know all the arguments for gun ownership. Cars don't do hit and runs, people do,,,,and guns don't kill, people do. Having said that, i'm thinking of getting a gun for protection. I can't believe it's gotten to this point, but, unless a courageous person with a fire arm intervenes, my life is not worth spit in these crazy shootings.
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By GloriD at 13,Dec,17 01:26 other posts of GloriD 
I have one world view. Though I'd rather call it a philosophy.

Fuck who you want to fuck

Don't fuck who you don't want to fuck

Don't tell other people who they should or should not fuck

Fuck how you want to fuck

Don't fuck how you don't want to fuck

Don't tell people wow they should or should not fuck

But don't be afraid to try new things or people

Now apply this universally in politics, religion, whatever as long as you aren't murdering babies or something I don't care. Well there are always exceptions to the rule but that's generally it. You do you and I'll do me is the short version. And if you want to do me I'm probably fine with that too.

By mr_blue at 11,Dec,17 11:14 other posts of mr_blue 
Anyone see the stuff about August Ames ?!!!

By mr_blue at 22,Nov,17 09:40 other posts of mr_blue 
So net neutrality is looking like it's gone in America!..
If you are going online,soon American ISP's will be able to throttle your connection and prioritise the content they prefer....not what you choose...

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By leopoldij at 22,Nov,17 17:24 other posts of leopoldij 
Fucking capitalism.

Is net neutrality still in place in the UK? For how long?

By #88520 at 26,Nov,17 02:15
Yeah looks like Americans will once again be fucked over by greedy corporations and bought politicians. Funny how the FCC are suddenly working to damage the rights of ordinary citizens it was set up to protect, just like the EPA are now actively working against the environment instead of protecting it.

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By leopoldij at 22,Nov,17 02:32 other posts of leopoldij 
Good point!

By mr_blue at 16,Nov,17 11:16 other posts of mr_blue 
Australians have overwhelmingly voted in favour of legalising same-sex marriage in a historic poll.
The non-binding postal vote showed 61.6% of people favour allowing same-sex couples to wed, the Australian Bureau of Statistics said.
Jubilant supporters have been celebrating in public spaces, waving rainbow flags and singing and dancing.
A bill to change the law was introduced into the Senate late on Wednesday. It will now be debated for amendments.
Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull said his government would aim to pass legislation in parliament by Christmas.
"[Australians] have spoken in their millions and they have voted overwhelmingly yes for marriage equality," Mr Turnbull said after the result was announced.
"They voted yes for fairness, yes for commitment, yes for love."
The issue only went to a voluntary postal vote after a long and bitter debate about amending Australia's Marriage Act.

Also the socceroos qualified for the world cup,rugby league world cup is on too,ashes series going on....good times going on in oz...
By Dev01 at 16,Nov,17 11:27 other posts of Dev01 
Same sex was done yesterday.... fuckin great thing since it is 2017. Turnball is a dick and socceroos great stuff..... Rugby well.....😑
By mr_blue at 16,Nov,17 11:45 other posts of mr_blue have they passed legislation ? I'm a bit slow on Australia news of late...
All politicians are dicks,rub them up the right way and they spew cocksnot...
And well done to the socceroos...
Watch the Aussies in Russia...
If Rugby league is getting you down bro,watch union,England v Australia on Saturday(UK time 1500hrs kick off)..
By Dev01 at 17,Nov,17 04:47 other posts of Dev01 
Will be bro then calling you
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By Dev01 at 18,Nov,17 14:23 other posts of Dev01 
wallabies had their shit handed to them once again, so i didn't call to gloat Alex
By mr_blue at 18,Nov,17 14:37 other posts of mr_blue 
It was a good game, Wallabies should've had a try given in the first half,England had the rub of the green today with the ref... Scotland v the All Blacks was good too,just finished watching that...

By JustWill at 16,Nov,17 12:56 other posts of JustWill 
Here in the States, on the other hand, the "christian" people of Alabama believe that supporting a ch1ld m0lester is way preferable to supporting a filthy Democrat.
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By mr_blue at 17,Nov,17 10:48 other posts of mr_blue 
Are you talking about Roy Moore ?... he's bonkers...
Probably Hillary's fault that's the usual go to response..
By JustWill at 17,Nov,17 12:00 other posts of JustWill 
No, no, no!
It's the fault of the "Liberal Media" and their "fake news".

By Andthisisme at 17,Nov,17 11:09 other posts of Andthisisme 
Oh how I wish that this was not true, but sadly it really is.

By leopoldij at 17,Nov,17 11:28 other posts of leopoldij 
I've probably missed it. Who is the ch. molester?
By JustWill at 17,Nov,17 12:01 other posts of JustWill 
Roy Moore.
By leopoldij at 17,Nov,17 14:31 other posts of leopoldij 
Thank you. I got it ...
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I get it. It's not the first time in that Christians (or any other religious folk) will support the opposite about what they believe. Indeed, religion doesn't have much to do with morality. This has been proven time and again.
By kebmo at 21,Nov,17 00:23 other posts of kebmo 
These aren't just Christians leopoldij, they're worse. They're right wing Christians, the scary kind.
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By Dev01 at 20,Nov,17 02:02 other posts of Dev01 
MANSON OFFICIALLY DEAD.....Fuckin good riddance
By phart at 20,Nov,17 20:47 other posts of phart 
just to think how much money califunny could of saved had they fried his ass like they were supposed to?
I am very surprised he was never freed under some stupid new law or something.California is a strange state.
By leopoldij at 20,Nov,17 22:11 other posts of leopoldij 
The best of the US states. At least, parts of CA are somewhat liberal.
By kebmo at 21,Nov,17 00:16 other posts of kebmo 
I'm surprised that he wasn't involved in a fatal "accident" at some time during all those years.

By Dev01 at 21,Nov,17 00:32 other posts of Dev01 
100% agree

By leopoldij at 18,Nov,17 20:40 other posts of leopoldij 
new world view

By leopoldij at 18,Nov,17 14:14 other posts of leopoldij 
Here's a pic of Trump's son killing a leopard.

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By Arexa at 09,Nov,17 15:50 other posts of Arexa 
KEMPTON, Pa. -- Authorities say a Pennsylvania man strangled a woman and then broke her neck, poked her eyes out and beat her with a hatchet after she rejected his marriage proposal.

Thirty-four-year-old Christopher R. Tucker is charged with criminal homicide, first- and third-degree murder and aggravated assault in the death of 19-year-old Tara Serino last week.

Police say he wrapped her body in a rug inside his Berks County home before fleeing to Illinois, where he was taken into custody at a truck stop.

The (Allentown) Morning Call reports that Tucker gave authorities an account of the slaying and authorities later found Serino's body inside his home with injuries that matched his statements.

Court records don't list an attorney for Tucker, who is awaiting extradition back to Pennsylvania

Why am I not surprised by this? Pennsylvanians are nuttier than squirrel shit.
By phart at 09,Nov,17 22:21 other posts of phart 
Damn, he is a wack job for sure.
Hope he gets the death penalty.
By Arexa at 09,Nov,17 23:45 other posts of Arexa 
He might, but I highly doubt he'd get executed. There hasn't been one here since 1999.

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By phart at 01,Nov,17 22:44 other posts of phart 
Cant help but notice no one has mentioned the terrorist attack in New York yesterday.

8 people dead.

Terrible thing to happen and regrettably the asshole is still alive. Feed him bacon and play Porky Pig cartoon reruns until he talks

But to go ahead and vent while I am at it,

I guess the anti gun folks are stumped now as what we conservatives have been saying all along rings true.Killers will kill regardless of what tools are available.
And from Home Depot,alot of tools are available to him.
Hilti guns that can shoot anchors into concrete,or peoples heads,nail guns that safety's can be defeated on so they can fire nails without being pressed to a board and so on.

Do we ban Uber drivers and or rental trucks?
By Andthisisme at 02,Nov,17 05:57 other posts of Andthisisme 
I don't want to revive the gun/anti gun debate. So I will pass over that element. We need, by we I mean society in general in all liberal democracies, to ask ourselves why people who have been either been living alongside us for many years, or who have been born in our countries, feel so alienated. Yes, radicalisation is the immediate cause but why are these people so alienated from our societies that they fall prey to these murderous ideologies ?
I don't believe this problem will be solved by more rapid justice and more punitive punishments nor by locking and bolting the door. Ah that it were so easy.
The vast majority of the people carrying out these recent atrocities have not just entered the country.
By licksipsuckit at 02,Nov,17 06:07 other posts of licksipsuckit 
why not make it compulsory to have one stupid arse religion and brain wash the entire nation with some more unbelievable crap about zombie virgins and perfect worlds where is everyone has a gun and shoots one maniac a month, the problems will be solved in no time *lix*
By phart at 02,Nov,17 10:00 other posts of phart 
We would have to set a standard on what is a maniac.

Zombie virgin,uh, she would give you the cold shoulder wouldn't she?

The alienation starts before they come here. It starts where they come from.
I can see where it comes from in the folks that come here as adults and do their deeds. It is what they are taught to do when they get here,convert or kill. Or simply just kill.
It is the 1's that are born here that grow up in a "free" country that gives them all kinds of opportunity's that confuses me.The 1 opportunity they willingly choose is that of killing the folks around them.
The terrorist born in other country's that turn and kill their neighbors is just as confusing.

By Andthisisme at 03,Nov,17 06:17 other posts of Andthisisme 
There are exceptions of course but the majority of immigrants into western democracies, especially the US, are following the American Dream of totally changing their lives and becoming successful and let's not deny it, rich.
Something then happens to these people when success is not achieved and they feel marginalised and failures. That is what we need to understand if we are to get to grips with this problem.
Having said that in the UK we have many ethnic communities that feel let down and have become disenchanted with the dreams they arrived with. It is only with the rise of fundementalist religion that some of these people have turned to mass slaughter.
How desperately unhappy do you have to be to prefer blowing yourself up to continuing living?
By phart at 03,Nov,17 19:48 other posts of phart 
Well,I think 1 issue is that 200 or 100 or even 50 years ago,when someone came to this country with hardly 2 coins to rub together,they came knowing it required effort on their part to succeed. America supply's the blank slate,you have to supply the chalk.
When folks started getting alot of "help" as in help paying for food,housing and what not from the government, then folks started coming over here NOT expecting to have to do anything.
To Me and I am somewhat of a average American,success here in America is living in a decent home and driving a decent car and it being PAID for by my labor.It is physical evidence that I did my part to succeed and provide for my own needs.
When folks come here expecting the same thing for little to no effort on their part,and don't get it that could be a problem. But is it worth blowing yourself to hell? I doubt it.
By Andthisisme at 04,Nov,17 07:35 other posts of Andthisisme 
You are right in the 18th 19th and early 20th centuries the new immigrants did whatever they could and had to do to support themselves, they had no other option, So I think you may well have a point about the attraction of receiving payments from the state. In the UK there are people working in low paid jobs receiving less than if they were on state support, that cannot be right.
Is financial failure worth blowing yourself and others up for, I agree with you definetly not.
So, what is it that leads young people to do this? Religion may be the obvious cause but not it is not the initial driver.
By phart at 05,Nov,17 07:11 other posts of phart 
Yea we have that same issue here in the US.People on public money are doing better than those that are working a low paying job.It sucks and it is not a moral booster.
Makes people mad at the system and want to see it fixed.

By #482237 at 02,Nov,17 11:50
First: you are right, if a madman wants to kill, he'll find a way, however, it's hard to drive a truck of off the 32 floor of a Las Vegas casino or drive it down the corridors of a school. second: i know "guns don't kill, people kill" but. if the gun is not there then it's much harder to use a knife or club. third: every major religion, (and i assume minor ones too) hold human life in sanctity, yet all these nuts seem to kill in the name of some religion. religion is a good excuse,,and men have been using it for all ages to destroy other people that are different ( think the catholic inquisition of the middle ages). My question is, and i consider myself a very easy person to get along, why don't we declare open warfare on these people and their organizations and eradicate all of them from the face of the earth just kije the English did with the thuggies in India during the 1800's???
By phart at 02,Nov,17 16:30 other posts of phart 
There is already a war on terror so to speak but for every idea that is proposed to combat it,some judge blocks it.

We can't even get anyone on the "radar" without someone crying foul.
By #482237 at 02,Nov,17 18:52
true,,when will the people get a say so,,,i know many are frustrated

By #88520 at 02,Nov,17 18:53
Over 10 000 people are killed annually by guns in the US.
Since 2008 on average less than 20 people a year gets killed by islamist inspired terrorism.

So I will go ahead and ask what you think will save more lives, stronger gun laws or more laws targeting muslims?
By dgraff at 03,Nov,17 05:35 other posts of dgraff 
We Americans have a saying kill them all and let God sort them out
By #88520 at 03,Nov,17 06:49
Nah I think that is something an insane person would say.
By dgraff at 03,Nov,17 18:37 other posts of dgraff 
So the United States Marine Corp is insane is that what your saying we better let country couple 54 in on this conversation
By #88520 at 03,Nov,17 19:35
It's a quote which originates from the middle ages where it was used to justify a senseless massacre. I'd say it's at best tasteless of the marines to use it.

I don't really see how it's an answer to my question either.
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Just how many of the 10.000 people killed by guns were at the hands of the Islamic groups you do realize your wed search includes Islamic killings with guns
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By #88520 at 04,Nov,17 02:39
As I said earlier less than 20 deaths a year in the US can be linked to islamist terror groups. (It's actually less than that according to the numbers here: only registered users can see external links )

So 20 out of the 10 000 at most.

That's why I'm asking why you guys are so obsessed with the problem that causes maybe 20 deaths but are totally fine with the problem that causes over 10 000 deaths.
By dgraff at 04,Nov,17 20:44 other posts of dgraff 
You need to understand stand were I'm from there is no problems I live on top a mountain I own the mountain and have little contact with the city life yes I'm heavy aLee armed and will protect what I have but I see no world problems
By bella! at 04,Nov,17 20:58 other posts of bella! 
Do you live on Walton's Mountain?

G'night dgraff-boy!

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By phart at 05,Nov,17 07:17 other posts of phart 
Well terrorist attacks bother me alot more than most the of the gun deaths for a couple reasons.
Terrorist kill innocent people.People trying to enjoy music or trying to earn a living.
Whereas Alot of those 10,000 deaths by guns are involving thug **** dealers and users that are fighting it out because someone shit them out of dope or cash. Frankly as long as I don't get caught in the cross fire,I couldn't give a damn if that bunch kills themselves completely extinct.

Some of the gun related deaths are police assisted suicide.
Not much you can do to fix that except take the guns away from the cops.
By #88520 at 07,Nov,17 01:51
I can assure you that there are thousands of totally innocent people that needlessly loose their lives every year because of the easy access to guns in the US. The numbers are ridiculous when you compare them to countries that have decided to be tough on guns.

Japan (population > 120 million) for example had only 6 gun deaths in 2014, while over 10 000 had to loose their lives in the US. If you add suicides and accidents with guns you have another 20 000 deaths in the US. You'd have to be pretty damn ignorant to not see what your lack of gun control leads to.

By licksipsuckit at 06,Nov,17 19:01 other posts of licksipsuckit 
don't know where you got the number of 20 people a year getting killed by muslims, they blow up 20 people every week in the middle east, gee, how many people died in 911, l guess that's part of your 20 people, what about all the women they castrate that die of infections from genital mutilations?? isn't that Islamic inspired??? the honour killings of women??? who instigates them??? budda?? gee if isil, isis, islam, mulsims and other freedom fighters all under the one banner kill only 20 a year, the world wouldn't be shitting itself like it is... lets target the whole religious bullshit it teaches and the whole amount of people affected by this scourge of society.. not just the ones that tote a gun to kill, stones kill, chi/dbirth with a cunt that has stitched up kills, floggings kill, road side bombs kill, suicide vests kill, cars kill, .. lay the blame on the real problems *lix*
By #88520 at 07,Nov,17 01:34
The numbers were for Islamic inspired terrorism in the US, I was comparing it to gun deaths in the US.

As I stated the numbers were an average from 2008 and forward, so 9/11 would not be included.

I totally agree that Islamic terrorism and practices are a huge problem in the middle east and certain parts of Africa, but for people living in the US it's a miniscule threat and it makes no sense to go around fearing and suspecting muslims while ignoring other much bigger threats, like the rampant gun problem.

By leopoldij at 04,Nov,17 10:59 other posts of leopoldij 
This is funny and actually shows how social media are full of untrustworthy shit:

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Russian trolls organized a protest and a counterprotest in the same place at the same time in May 2016, the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Sen. Richard Burr, said on Wednesday. The revelation shows how far Russia was willing to go to foment unrest and division in the US in the months leading up to the election. Burr said that organizing and promoting these protests cost Russia "about $200."

By mr_blue at 30,Oct,17 13:45 other posts of mr_blue do you make your toast ? Toaster,under the fire ?...and what do you put on your toast ? Jam/jelly,peanut butter....
By Arexa at 31,Oct,17 00:41 other posts of Arexa 
I ha.te toasters. They never toast my bread right. I opt for the stove... I'll fry it in a buttered skillet and toast it that way... It's a pain, but at least it's not burnt!
As for topping... Elderberry jelly... Nom.

By licksipsuckit at 31,Oct,17 03:16 other posts of licksipsuckit 
fruit toast, lightly toasted lots of real butter and vegemite *lix*
By Ravioli_Max at 31,Oct,17 04:29 other posts of Ravioli_Max 
By leopoldij at 31,Oct,17 04:33 other posts of leopoldij 
She means marmite (Aussies call it this way)
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Either way.. yuck!
By licksipsuckit at 01,Nov,17 08:59 other posts of licksipsuckit 
is not yuck Leo lol, you should try it, tastes great *lix*
By leopoldij at 01,Nov,17 19:58 other posts of leopoldij 
I tried... Both in Europe and in Australia. Sorry, I don't like it. Too salty for me.

By leopoldij at 02,Nov,17 19:06 other posts of leopoldij 
I offer you my sincerest apologies for confusing marmite and vegemite. And I'm sorry I like neither. According to Dev01 I'm an idiot. I'm so sorry to have been an idiot. It'll be a miracle if, after offending your national pride, and being an idiot, you'll still want to talk to me. However, I'll accept your decision no matter how harsh that may be.
By Dev01 at 03,Nov,17 04:13 other posts of Dev01 
All good leo, no offence taken

Fyi they all taste different. Vegemite is a great source of vitamin B which in Australia (straya) = a great hangover cure

By Dev01 at 02,Nov,17 05:49 other posts of Dev01 
only a idiot would call vegemite Marmite

Marmite: Originally from the UK, Marmite is made from yeast extract, a by-product of beer brewing, and is suitable for vegetarians and vegans. Some say it tastes similar to beef bouillon. Marmite is the French term for a large, covered earthenware or metal cooking pot. Marmite used to be served in glass jars that resembled such jars.

Promite: Promite is made from vegetables and yeast extract. Originally an Australia brand, it was acquired by Mars Incorporated, an American company. Dispite its U.S. ownership, Promite is still manufactured and sold in Australia. It appears that Promite is the underdog of the three brands.

Vegemite: Vegemite, an Australian treat manufactured by U.S. giant Kraft, is made from yeast extract, and various vegetable and spice additives. Many Australians consider a national food and cultural icon.
By bella! at 02,Nov,17 20:16 other posts of bella! 
So your vegemite is actually made in the United States? Wild! I wonder if it is sold over here, I would be willing to try it only if it is sold in a small jar.
By Dev01 at 03,Nov,17 04:20 other posts of Dev01 
Bega Cheese is bringing Vegemite home after buying it and the Australian and New Zealand arm of US-based global food giant Mondelez International.

The $460 million deal to acquire the MDLZ grocery business includes Vegemite, Bonox and ZoOsh salad dressings. The right to produce Kraft-branded products locally under licence, from processed cheese to peanut butter and mayonnaise, are part of the sale, but Philadelphia cheese products are not included.

Bega says the Kraft licence will be royalty free until December 2017 as part of transitional arrangements.

The company will also produce the Dairylea and Snackabout brands under licence in Australia and New Zealand.

Bega will have the global trademark rights to Vegemite and ZoOsh.

The 6.3Ha Port Melbourne site, where 300,000 jars of Vegemite are produced daily, and there are five automated production lines, are part of the sale.

In an announcement this morning to the ASX, the NSW diary company, which has been making some processed cheese products for Kraft for the past eight years, said it would fund the acquisition from bank debt.

Bega said the local Kraft business is expected to have net revenues of $310 million with an EBITDA of $40-45 million expected in its first full year, excluding transaction and implementation costs.

The company plans to rationalise its own product range to align with the new Kraft products.

Executive chairman Barry Irvin said bringing such iconic brands into the company would “enable Bega Cheese to become a great consumer goods business.”

“In addition to Vegemite and the other brands being undeniably iconic, the people we are taking on are very impressive and will play an important role in growing the merged business,” he said.

MDLZ has 31% of the $550 million spreads category in Australia.

“This acquisition will be value accretive in its own right, strategically important and company making,” Irvin said.

Bega plans to use “near-term corporate opportunities to pay down debt”.

It expects the deal to be finalised in the first half of CY2017.

A short time ago, Bega Cheese shares were up 11% to $4.98.

Abit boring but

By #482237 at 31,Oct,17 12:22
I make mine nude and with Gerome holding my tits from behind,,,My toast gets burned a lot,,
By CountryCouple54 at 02,Nov,17 22:02 other posts of CountryCouple54 
By #482237 at 03,Nov,17 08:31
Really?? you should see the "spread"

By leopoldij at 01,Nov,17 20:00 other posts of leopoldij 
Back in 2004, a piece of toast was sold for $28,000 (twenty eight thousand dollars) on eBay because.... you know why, don't you?
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No, it's NOT a joke. It's true.
By #525562 at 01,Nov,17 22:15
People pay for what they believe in,this is nothing new and it is no joke,
By leopoldij at 02,Nov,17 05:33 other posts of leopoldij 
You mean: *some* people pay for what they believe in,this is nothing new and it is no joke.
And I add: these people are those who are otherwise known as idiots.

By Andthisisme at 02,Nov,17 05:46 other posts of Andthisisme 
This particular story is bizarre to say the least but the hammer price at any auction represents just how much someone is prepared to pay for something that they want to own at that moment in time. In some cases many millions of pounds. Of course the market's tastes change over time and the items value may well fall significantly. However, as long as the winning bidder was happy with the price that they paid, there is no problem.
I have sold many items on eBay and been regularly amazed at how little some items make while other items that I have no great hope for make much much more than I expected. Auctions can be very strange places.

By leopoldij at 31,Oct,17 04:36 other posts of leopoldij 
Why is a toaster issue a world viwe? (Deep philosophical question.)
By Arexa at 31,Oct,17 08:38 other posts of Arexa 
"Current events, rants and raves...general chit chat...politics..."

Pretty sure it falls under the general chit chat part.
By leopoldij at 31,Oct,17 08:43 other posts of leopoldij 
RIGHT! That's a deep philosophical reply!

By #482237 at 31,Oct,17 12:19
Burnt toast can cause a war???

By mr_blue at 31,Oct,17 13:17 other posts of mr_blue 
Cuz not everyone thinks the same....if you don't have an electric supply you can't use a toaster for a start...some people only toast one side of the bread....

By Arexa at 25,Oct,17 14:47 other posts of Arexa 
Man... Fats Domino died at 89 today.
Definitely one of my favorites.
By leopoldij at 25,Oct,17 16:50 other posts of leopoldij 
I saw that! Mine too. Sad.

By mr_blue at 30,Oct,17 13:43 other posts of mr_blue 

By mr_blue at 16,Oct,17 10:12 other posts of mr_blue 
Harvey Weinstein ....
By licksipsuckit at 17,Oct,17 19:56 other posts of licksipsuckit 
like Harvey is the only movie mogul that's mo/ested women for a part, this is the culture in Hollywood and 99% of women stars wouldn't be stars if they didn't do their time on the casting couch at some point, they'd still be waiting tables waiting for a part in a tampon commercial without these grubs getting their hands on them, and its not the only industry that thrives on women feeling they need to bend to this kind of behaviour to get a job.. any male industry with a male dominated management is in on this *lix*
By phart at 18,Oct,17 23:06 other posts of phart 
He just pissed someone off and is being brought down.All of them have done it .There are many women that allowed themselves to be "used" to try and get ahead in the world. Some are just sneaky,vengeful, people that want to wait in the shadows until a man gets to the top so they can pull the plug and watch him fall.It is to a point everyone needs to have a sign on their door,"all activity is videotaped" so that evidence can be collected and stored to protect people. MOST sexual harassment claims are totally false and are just ways to destroy mens hard earned reputations and to cost them money,possibly bringing them to bankruptcy.
I understand some women get touched and used that didn't want it to happen. BUT Don't wait 40+ years like in bill cosbys case to come forward about it. If someone did something to a woman the woman should go to get it took care soon after. While evidence can be collected and such. there should be a statute of limitations.
And don't think for 1 minute sexual harassment is only limited to male on female.
Women are cruel .
By #88520 at 19,Oct,17 01:55
I think you show perfectly well in this post why women don't come forward. Because men like you will just claim that they are lying and instead start to smear them while the powerful guys that harassed or assaulted them make sure that they're fired or loose opportunities.
By phart at 20,Oct,17 19:23 other posts of phart 
So you think ALL of the folks claiming harassment are being 100% honest?
There is no chance a woman would be wanting into show biz so much she would seduce her way into it? The casting couch is a myth? Do you honestly think most women singers can actually sing? Or were they just good in the back room so they could get the job?
The fact that for Bill cosby having women hollering about being doped up 40+ years ago and "used" should ring some alarm bells. How can it be proven after that length of time?
I know it happens,and hands down it is wrong and justice is deserved of the victim . BUT damn it,report it when it happens,not later when convenient or more damning to the mans reputation and life. That is my point.Come forward shortly after.Or better yet,if you are not wanting the contact to take place, defend yourself and prevent it from taking place at all or at least reduce damages.
By #88520 at 21,Oct,17 03:05
You must not have noticed all the cases of women trying to go the proper routes only to be shutdown and blacklisted in the industry. The studios will protect their big powerful money makers and make everything they can to throw allegations under the rug. It's only when a bunch of women come out at the same time that it seems to have any effect and people actually believe them.

It again says a lot when you're more willing to believe Bill Cosby than all the women that have been victims to his behavior.
By phart at 21,Oct,17 18:20 other posts of phart 
Have you ever listened to Bill? When he tries to tell the young folks to pull up their damn pants and stay in school and such? I would believe someone that actually tries to set a good example over a few dopehead hasbeens trying to get their 4 minutes of fame on the headline news any day.40+ years before they tell about a encounter? They didn't use dope at all in the 60's and were all virgins right?
By #88520 at 21,Oct,17 18:52
Alright you have me convinced, someone that tells people to pull up their pants can of course not be a sexual predator!
By phart at 21,Oct,17 19:20 other posts of phart 
Didn't say he couldn't be anything. You are missing the point. The encounters should have been dealt with shortly after they happened,in Cosby's case and this recent guy in the news. Credibility would be easier given to those claims that semen samples and so forth can be gathered for evidence. All that can be produced after 40 plus years or hell,2 years for that matter,is hearsay and rumors and 1 persons word against another.
That is the point I am trying to make. .
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This is a case where I can go along with gun control nuts. More laws would help this.
Make sexual harassment against the law.
Put a statute of limitations on how long a victim has to report a case.
Provide stiff sentences to the guilty.
Make sure that both male and female victims are given equal treatment in the courts.
Women harass men all the time and get away with it. Most men are not is when they feel like it is ok to return the treatment that suddenly it is a problem.
Women grab mens ass's. If a man was to report it, they would be laughed out of the state. Let that same man turn around and grab the woman's ass, he would be on the news as a predator. That is not equality. That is discrimination.

By licksipsuckit at 22,Oct,17 17:49 other posts of licksipsuckit 
look at Harvey, look at his wife, without the money he had, she wouldn't fuck him, he batted way above his field because of the money, and as for women are cruel yeah some are, but for the most part most women are used, @bused, treated like second rated citizens and are the nurturers in life, they feed, care and look after everyone in their circle, for little to no pay, they don't 'ask' for this kind of abuse, they don't want to be fucked over for the privilege of working. As for Bill Cosby, he needs burying, drugging women to fuck them is one of the lowest forms of life.. what an an!mal, lowlife scum bag, how can they prove anything when they are un-conscious??? he covered his tracks well, but still doesn't make it right what he did on any level, what a piece of shit to fuck a person who is un-conscious from being d.rugged, that's premeditated, its scum like him that make it hard for women to be taken seriously.. good on any woman that can get ahead in life without getting on her back to get there.. but theyre far and few between... *Lix*
By phart at 22,Oct,17 19:55 other posts of phart 
I agree that alot of women are used and **** and it is wrong. But once it starts, they need to run,and run fast. Get away,far away. And start over.I know,it aint easy,hell it is about impossible. But when i hear of women here locally that go to shelters that have been beaten,only to go back to the beater and it happen all over? Sheesh, Love is blind,I know,but don't go back! I know,I hear the "i did it for the kids". The kids would be better off in a foster care for a time until the mother gets herself back to going.

And may I say something that is not politically correct? Most of what I say aint so nothing new.

If a woman would find a decent man, get married, stay home and raise the kids and keep a clean house, she would not have to worry about a predator trying to screw her for a high paying job. Let the man work, just feed him something good for supper and if he is worth a shit you won't lack for a damn thing. IF he don't provide,LEAVE his ass and find someone who will do right.If he strikes you, defend yourself and defuse the situation and pack your bag and leave,right then.And for those that don't like guns,if he comes at you to really hurt you,shoot his sorry ass. There aint a court in the land that would convict you of wrong doing if you show clear evidence you were in danger.

As you clearly stated women are the nurturers in life, they feed, care and look after everyone. Because it is their instinctive behavior.

Leaving the home to be cleaned by a maid,leaving the kids at the day care,only to have to screw someone you don't like behind your husbands back to keep the high paying job is dangerous,demoralizing and wrong. Don't get in the situation to begin with.

It is this high and mighty standard of living people have that has caused alot of this.Not all but alot. You don't have to live like a millionaire. Your grandparents didn't and they raised familys. Get the middle class back up and running.Working dad's and stay at home mom's. This sexual harassment stuff would be few and far between.

I know you read that and think I am so far off on the back 40 it is pitiful. But really stop and think, How much of this stuff happened before women started thinking they had to go to work so a Mercedes could sit in the driveway instead of a Chevy?

Got to have a steak every night instead of hamburger steak and gravy? Think before you say I am nuts.
By licksipsuckit at 23,Oct,17 04:47 other posts of licksipsuckit 
no phart, l left my bloke because he was a bastard, had to go to work to pay for the mortgage of a house l couldn't live in, had to keep a head over my sons head, had to work 12 hour days and 6 days a week, l didn't have a Mercedes or want one, l just wanted to provide the basic things for my son and l, but when youre working a dead end job, and the bloke that gets your promotion, comes to you to do his job too because he wasn't qualified to do the job, and he's in your air conditioned office, driving your company car, doing 9 to 5 and getting credit for the hard work you do, all the while having to do my own job too, l find that pretty narrow sighted on your part .. you criticise the standards of womens work and them staying home.. my ex husband 'promised' me that his wife would never have to work till the kids were at school. well that didn't go to plan, because l didn't consider myself as someones possession and take the crap that was dished out to me.. to have someone say, gee why don't they leave and not put up with it, well it happens in the home, at work, while youre dropping the k!ds off to the day care, in every walk of life, women are treated like crap and are expected to smile and be nice after putting up with shit all day from men like you... yeah in your perfect world, it might all seem as easy as that, but the real world isn't made for women, we don't get to work and earn the same money or benefits, we have to quit work to bare your ch!ldren and then not be able to save for our own retirement, well good on any woman that takes a bloke to the cleaners for fucking her life and using her a pissing post and breeding machine to carry 'his' name on, you don't get it and never will because you think that we are useless because we cant leave our family to a pig headed bloke to raise, or leave the home we worked our guts out for, or miss out on that promotion because some bloke needs to pay his mortgage more than a woman needs to pay hers... judging beaten down women must be easy looking out from your ivory tower.. most of us just keep going, we push ourselves to the limits it takes to battle this world and come out the other end with a scratch of dignity.. hows your wife phart??? hope you provided her with a Mercedes and a maid and a holiday to Tahiti every winter..she deserves it!!! *lix*
By phart at 23,Oct,17 20:02 other posts of phart 
I never married because I did not feel capable of doing the job of husband as I was taught by example. My salary on the job never got high enough for me to afford a marriage.It cost alot of money to provide a home and take care of a family.And do it right without beggin for government handouts as so many do.Oh I could of took on a woman and we could of fought and fussed over money for gas and food with 3 screaming kids. But that is not a good situation for anyone,especially the kids.They are the innocent victims of marital disputes.
And to add to the mess,I can't imagine trying to care for a home and family since becoming handicapped and fixed income.Not a good situation for wife or kids to live thru.

My dad set a good example as he provided the home and my mother never worked a lick. Didn't take to good a care of me either. To busy cheating on my dad while he worked out of town.I am sorry but I have had bad experiences that forged my attitude.The very woman that I should have been able to look up to,was to busy not doing right to look after me as she should have.

We did not have the finest when i was a ****,but we never went hungry and there was transportation and a roof over our heads that my dad worked hard and paid for.Not all men are assholes. Just as you feel I should not judge women by the actions of a few,please afford me the same and not consider all men to be jurks.

I know my "utopia" is not realistic in today's world. But if you think,as I said above,this was not nearly as common 40 years ago as it is now.Something changed,so if it was not the desire for a higher standard of living,what changed?

Something did.
By licksipsuckit at 23,Oct,17 22:20 other posts of licksipsuckit 
it was more prevalent 40 years ago, lve seen old movies where it was acceptable to treat women like sex objects, the bosses could slap women on the arse and tell them to behave in public, and no one batted an eyelid, they asked their secretaries to wear tight skirts, it was all a common way of life, wasn't till the feminists took charge and changed the world, l don't put all men in the same basket, l think many are decent human being and the few that take their advantage in life to bad levels need pulling up and exposing, like this isn't common knowledge in Hollywood??? and many directors and producers don't use their standing to for.ce themselves onto women or men depending on their preferences, upcoming stars will do anything to further their careers if needed especially if told they will get nowhere without doing as wanted by these creeps.. they need a clean out of the whole industry and all these people need to be brought to justice for their bad behaviour, they need to be taught that using your authority to fuck people over isn't acceptable *lix*
By phart at 24,Oct,17 12:48 other posts of phart 
eh, I aint so sure really,women were not in the work place as much as they are now.But it could have happened none the less,just not as many. Movies expand and stretch the truth so movies may not be the best reference.
But as far as women in the entertainment industry.Sheesh,was everyone under a rock every time the words "casting couch" were spoken? hell I had heard of that before I knew what went on on the casting couch. 4 women apply for a movie part or a singing contract,it was the best 1 from the couch,not the talent that got the job. It is not like 10 years ago women were blindly walking into a movie studio not knowing what could happen. They walked in anyway. No one forced them to take a acting job. They just want that big money and fame.Not saying the price they pay is worth it,I think they figure out "hey,the sex was bad and he is a asshole i think I will complain".
If the sex was good and their bank accounts are fat,I seriously doubt the women would be on the news.

By CountryCouple54 at 22,Oct,17 21:01 other posts of CountryCouple54 
He is a badass.

By longdong at 18,Oct,17 21:58 other posts of longdong 
I own a bunch of rifles and guns that's what we do in America we can't trust our government. I'm not sure why the rest of the world trusts their own government, history has shown what happens when the people give up the right to bear arms. In America we the right to a well regulated militia that right would be difficult to achieve if we start banning rifles.
By phart at 18,Oct,17 23:10 other posts of phart 
Yea,it is hard to understand how folks are so complaisant overseas. They never explain how they can bring themselves to trust their government either.They always dodge the question all the while calling us fools and other terrible names because we choose to be reluctant victims.
By #88520 at 19,Oct,17 02:35
We call you fools because you so easily fall for this ridiculous power fantasy that the weapon industry feeds you. There's nothing good coming out of a scenario where a bunch of gun crazy civilians decides to take on the government and the proper military.
By #536760 at 19,Oct,17 03:10
Sadly as stupid as people like these two are. No one and nothing has ever in history made America look so foolish, stupid, and backwards as mr trample is doing right now. And I’m not laughing; He and his supportive fuckwits could make it a hell of a lot worse for all of us. I did not believe anything could ever make George W. Bush look intelligent. I stand corrected.(no smiley face here)
By Dev01 at 19,Oct,17 04:44 other posts of Dev01 
well said.

By leopoldij at 19,Oct,17 20:16 other posts of leopoldij 
You finally said something that makes a lot of sense! I never thought that someone could be worse than George Dubya.

By licksipsuckit at 20,Oct,17 18:09 other posts of licksipsuckit 
when a gunman took aim at school kids and mowed them down, this should have been the wake up call they needed, the gunning down of their ch!ldren, unarmed little people, who had no defence, they still claimed that they needed more guns, that the teachers should have had guns in their desks for this, lol, what a fucking joke, the paranoia level over there must be at an all time high and we know what happens when you mix paranoia, guns and stupid people.. just another day in the so called 'greatest' country on earth.. well ld much rather visit Fiji that Hawaii *lix*

By cumjohn at 19,Oct,17 05:27 other posts of cumjohn 
Gun laws only affects honest people. Criminals always finds a way to get guns, no matter what. Thats why im against strict guncontrol. Honest people should not suffer because of few criminals who dont respect life.
By Dev01 at 19,Oct,17 05:56 other posts of Dev01 
Exactly NRA tho is more powerfull. IN Oz you have to prove you can have a firearm... from what i believe in America its a case of unless you have a DV you can buy whatever. The media ( propaganda )
Are a very big part of the scare monger tactics. I'm sure i will be put straight about American adgenda

By #88520 at 19,Oct,17 06:09
You won't find any research or statistics that support the claim that easy access to guns make honest people safer. You're 25 times more likely to die from gun **** in the US than in any other high income country with strict gun control. It's really not rocket science to understand that a country filled with items that can kill will be more dangerous than a place where those items are much more rare.
By CountryCouple54 at 19,Oct,17 06:45 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Let's take our beer, cigarettes, and automobiles away also. Because those 3 things kill more people every year then guns do.
By cumjohn at 19,Oct,17 11:31 other posts of cumjohn 
Good point. And if someone really wants to kill somebody, gun is not neccessery. Knifes are out there. Also anybody can google bomb instructions.
By Dev01 at 19,Oct,17 14:25 other posts of Dev01 
Guns are readily accessible in Oz... if you need you can get. But here there have been only two major incidents involving firearms. Does that mean we safe ? No .... but im sick of hearing about the 5th and that shit.... its my right to... Guns dont kill its the fuckin retard thats having a bad day and feed by media PROPAGANDA.

Like i said in my first statement. Here you have to prove yourself, that you are of good state of mind and NO criminal convictions.... even traffic stuff could jeopardise it. But in metherica seemsthe only thing that can stop you is a Domestic v1olence charge. And as for automatic ans semi auto firearms 😁 my youngest daughter could make a semi full auto....
By dgraff at 19,Oct,17 19:35 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha good point a file a crossed the seir pin a couple times and you converted a semi automatic in to fully automatic I've done it many times
By Dev01 at 21,Oct,17 02:18 other posts of Dev01 
Spot on dgraff

By #88520 at 21,Oct,17 03:30
If cars was only useful to injure/kill other people I'm sure I'd agree with you. With cars you also have to get a drivers license, pay insurance and have it registered, demanding the same for guns seem like a good start.

With cigarettes you're only killing yourself and at least here they're heavily taxed to make up for some of the extra medical cost they bring on society.

Alcohol surely leads to a lot of **** and death, but like cars it's really not the purpose of it.
By CountryCouple54 at 21,Oct,17 23:35 other posts of CountryCouple54 
That made no damn sense to me.

By phart at 20,Oct,17 19:11 other posts of phart 
You folks have done a fine job of yet again,dodging the question of just what makes you over seas folks so trusting in your governments?
By #536760 at 20,Oct,17 21:25
? Former Australian prime minister Bob Hawke, who once held the record as the world’s fastest beer drinker, has unveiled a new lager named after himself – and spent little time sampling his first drop. The 87-year-old, who set a world record for drinking a yard of beer while studying at Oxford in 1955, agreed to give his name to Hawke’s Lager on condition that some of the profits go to a scheme to assist farmers. Pouring a beer from a tap at a pub in Sydney, Mr Hawke held up his glass and said: “How’s that for a pour? [I could] get a bloody job.” After taking a sip, (and a nap)he nodded his head and said: “A lovely beer.” Mr Hawke, who was prime minister from 1983 to 1991, should know. (Thats why.) He was happy to kill himself not everyone else. He did not spend his day texting. He did not sleaze on any women in front of him. He did not try to start wars because he could. He did not make America into a laughing stock. He did not...... Do I really need to continue? You brainless @#$% Your name says it all. Get back under the shit you climbed out of.

By #88520 at 21,Oct,17 03:50
After a hundred years of well functioning democracy I think it's only reasonable to trust it. When you make sure that citizen get access to good education, responsible media and keep corruption levels low you vastly decrease the possibility of nut cases like Donald Trump getting put into power.
By phart at 21,Oct,17 18:16 other posts of phart 
Well access to 1 thru 12 is out there,if the lazy kids would use it. Responsible media? It is odd to even see those 2 words together in a sentence. I doubt that could be achieved in any country.
Corruption? it is not at a low level,it is just at such a level you can't see over it.
As for 1 drunken prime minister making the case for trusting your government,that don't hold water for me.
I want someone to detail how their official documents such as our constitution,are laid out in such a way there is no need for scrutiny or how their leaders are on the level and need no supervision. It can't be done, that is why the question is dodged.
By kebmo at 24,Oct,17 00:22 other posts of kebmo 
"Approximately 60% of all adult firearm deaths are by suicide."

-Wikipedia talking about US gun deaths.

By mr_blue at 17,Oct,17 12:27 other posts of mr_blue 
48 hr deodorant ....48 hr make up.... do people who use these products not wash everyday or something ?....
By #536760 at 17,Oct,17 16:03
Yea I'm waiting for the 6mth toothpaste

By Arexa at 18,Oct,17 12:23 other posts of Arexa 
I've used both. Lol. I'm definitely guilty of skipping a day here or there, but I tend to sweat through regular lady strength deodorant, so the clinical strength variety works much better.
As for 48 hour makeup... I scrub it off at the end of the day anyways. It just stays put better. Regular foundation is kind of oily, so it never really dries on my skin... That 48 hour kind dries like paint, so it doesn't budge if I touch my face throughout the day. I'm a sloppy eater so it's a big bonus.
By bella! at 18,Oct,17 20:38 other posts of bella! 
I use a clinical strength deodorant and I love it but I'm not familiar with any make-up that is advertised to be wearable for more then 12 hours.

I love lipstick and I recently bought some that I can wear in the pool, woo hoo! It is tough to get off and more times than not, it won't come off when I wash my face at the end of the day so I have to use rubbing alcohol and a cotton pad.
By Arexa at 19,Oct,17 07:34 other posts of Arexa 
You're correct and I stand corrected. The foundation I use, while not 48 hours, is extended wear... It's marked that it stays put for 25 hours, which is still quite a long time. I probably should have read the bottle better. I have a couple 36 hour eyeliners and a mascara type stain that is supposed to last a week. I don't use the mascara thing though.
By bella! at 19,Oct,17 08:22 other posts of bella! 
A mascara stain? Who is it made by and what is the name of the product? It sounds interesting, I might plan a search and buy mission. Thank you!
By Arexa at 19,Oct,17 12:15 other posts of Arexa 
Mine is kinda old, but it's made by Hard Candy... The tube looks like it says Ink on it, but it was metallic and has pretty much rubbed off... I do recall seeing a 28 day eyelash stain at Walmart recently... There was an eyebrow tint as well.
By bella! at 19,Oct,17 16:27 other posts of bella! 
Thank you!

By Markdavid474 at 19,Oct,17 15:46 other posts of Markdavid474 
Anyone want to skype and watch me eat my cum?
By bella! at 19,Oct,17 16:23 other posts of bella! 
Don't forget "BUMP".

By leopoldij at 03,Oct,17 09:31 other posts of leopoldij 
A politician is, by definition, a crook who has no qualms about supporting anything that is convenient for him/her.

Donald (September 2000): "I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun."

Donald (September 2017): "If crooked Hillary got elected [...] you'd be handing in your rifles."

Of course, had Hillary been elected, she, too, would have changed her mind and star delivering `praise assault weapons' speeches.

That's what crooks (=politicians) do.

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By phart at 03,Oct,17 10:46 other posts of phart 
A man can get a good education in 17 years.
By leopoldij at 03,Oct,17 11:22 other posts of leopoldij 
A politician is always a crook.
By Andthisisme at 03,Oct,17 16:07 other posts of Andthisisme 
I am not naive; an election promise is not worth the paper it is printed on. There is always a way that they can explain why they aren't going to do what they promised to do before getting elected.

Will a politician answer a straight question with a straight answer? Not in a million years, they have mastered the skill of answering the question that they wanted to be asked NOT the one they were actually asked.

Am I cynical about politicians? Yes

Do I think ALL politicians in the U.K are crooks and by implication corrupt? No.

Although some politicians in some countries certainly are, others, are just weak and too afraid to stand up to powerful pressure groups.
By leopoldij at 03,Oct,17 19:28 other posts of leopoldij 
Correct. The honest ones are not allowed to speak and are silent witnesses of the corruption. However, by being silent, they're complicit to the fraud and the crimes happening all the time.

By licksipsuckit at 03,Oct,17 16:21 other posts of licksipsuckit 
over a hundred different acts to change the laws have been brought before American parliament and not one has been passed, they all get rejected..America has a mass shooting every day and over 11 thousand people have been killed in the last 12 months in America, after every mass shooting in America, gun sales double and the share prices in weapons companies goes up .. l guess they just love to shoot people and the 2nd amendment was made when guns took over a minute to load .. *lix*
By Andthisisme at 03,Oct,17 17:13 other posts of Andthisisme 
I heard a spokesman for the NRA this morning explaining very simply that guns are not the problem.
He went on to say that if there were no guns then people would kill each other with box knives.
You cannot kill and wound over 600 people in just few minutes with a box knife though.
I wonder if one day a gun man storms a school and kills every **** in that school will the NRA still claim that gun control is not an issue? Sadly, I think I know the answer.
By leopoldij at 03,Oct,17 19:38 other posts of leopoldij 
Yes, they will. They will still claim, even if everyone died, that guns aren't the problem.

Facts (you observed some):
1) After mass shootings gun sales go up.
2) Certain states (e.g. Arizona) openly support parents taking their chi.ldren to shooting ranges to learn how to fire guns and assault weapons.
3) The NRA are more powerful than the president.
4) In certain areas of the US you see posted signs saying "guns save lives".
5) In several universities students are, by law, now allowed to take guns in classes and display them on their red during lecture.
6) The more guns one has the more religious he tends to be and vice versa.
7) In many churches, people are allowed to carry their guns.
The situation is worse than it used to be 20 years ago.

In terms of guns and religion, US is a very primitive country.
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By the way, there's a big difference between having a hand gun (e.g. because you live in a remote place) and possessing 20 semiautomatic and 15 adults m automatic guns. People don't get guns for their protecting. They equip themselves as if they're in the army.
By phart at 03,Oct,17 23:06 other posts of phart 
First off,this mess in las vegas was terrible. I am glad the asshole is dead that did it.

But in regards to law abiding people arming themselves, it is Because you can't trust nor depend on a army or the police when the chips are really down. If I am threatened at this moment and called 9-11, it would be no less than 10 minutes for a response.Alot can happen in 10 minutes. Do I feel comfortable being a sitting duck for a criminal? No. Do I feel comfortable knowing a large number of people think I should be a sitting duck for a deranged person to injure or kill? Hell no. Nor do i feel comfortable with the thoughts of taking a life. But when the chips are down,and it is me or them, I hope they brought corks.
The liberals think criminals are entitled or have a right to have innocent,helpless victims available for their slaughter at any time.A gun free zone,is a soft target.

Primitive, perhaps,I can't deny that. But a better chance of living if you are able to protect yourself,that is the option i choose.
And how often,when you call 9-11,does the cop show up with a ball bat and a radio? He shows up with the very damn thing you think I shouldn't have. A gun.

Alot of preachers now have guns in church.If you think about it he has the best vantage point in the building to see and react to a threat. Had the preacher had 1 in south Carolina a couple years ago,we would have been rid of 1 sorry ass piece of trash that has caused alot of problems.
By #88520 at 04,Oct,17 00:24
In every other normal country people do just fine without being armed to the teeth. I don't know a single person that has a gun or feel the need to get one. No one walks around being scared about everything like in the US.

The gun laws in your country does not make anyone safer, it only brings more death. Americans are 25 times more likely to be murdered by guns than people in any other civilized country. It doesn't matter if the vast majority of gun owners are law abiding citizens. The only people gaining anything is the weapons industry which pay hundreds of millions each year to bribe politicians and stoke fear everywhere to keep up the insane gun culture.
By #536760 at 04,Oct,17 01:58
An advanced society is not judged by the knowledge or technology they have. But by how they implement that knowledge.
So are we going forwards or backwards?
By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 02:31 other posts of leopoldij 
Backwards. Whereas technology is going up, idiocy and education are going down at a much higher rate.

By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 02:29 other posts of leopoldij 
That's correct. It has to be said, however, that a not negligible fraction of Swedes (e.g. ragare) have an unreasonable love for Americans and also have guns. But nowhere, except in war zones, is as bad as in the US. Like I said, it's very primitive there when it comes to guns.

By milesbferry at 04,Oct,17 18:51 other posts of milesbferry 
I live in a 'normal country'. London is a very popular place for muslim stabby stabby, choppy choppy , run you down! On the bridge!

By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 02:34 other posts of leopoldij 
I understand what you say. However, why arm yourself with automatic assault weapons? One gun, Ok, say. But armed to teeth with bazookas and guns like the one used in Vegas, why? Are you expecting an army to attack you at your place?
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Besides, the point of this posting was not guns. It was just an example showing that politicians are dishonest.
By #536760 at 04,Oct,17 02:38
Have you seen doomsday prepers?
By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 02:40 other posts of leopoldij 
I've no idea what a preper is.

By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 02:46 other posts of leopoldij 
I googled it. Doomsday preppers. An American TV thing. No, I haven't. Never heard of it.
By #536760 at 04,Oct,17 03:26
Ooo dubule p that better . I try so hard to get it write 4 yoo.
Yea it's just lots of freaks getting ready to shoot the zombies .
Everlution knot werking there. Butt it dooing phyn hear.
By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 03:33 other posts of leopoldij 
I was being honest when I said I didn't know what preper/prepper meant. I didn't know the word
By #536760 at 04,Oct,17 03:57
Their just a bunch of dicks who make Neanderthals look wise.
And speaking of prepper can I have some for this can of spooge?
It tastes like cum.
By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 10:39 other posts of leopoldij 
Are you talking about their dicks or are you implying that they're dicks?

By #482237 at 18,Oct,17 21:32
Research now shows that far more frequently, perpetrators share one common thread. In mass shootings, in gun homicide and particularly in much more common gun deaths, the killer is frequently, until that moment, a law-abiding firearm owner pulling the trigger on a lawfully held gun.

In the 16 deadliest mass shootings in Europe between 1987 and 2015, 86% of the victims were shot by a licensed shooter. In at least 29 American mass gun killings since 2007, 139 people were killed by licensed firearm owners with hidden handgun permits.

having so many guns tend to get regular people to kill easier in arguments and other situations,,,,yes,,criminals do get guns illegally,,,but they are a small minority,,and if the guns dry up,,no one would be able to get them easily

By licksipsuckit at 04,Oct,17 04:36 other posts of licksipsuckit 
l loved too the 'fake news of america' claimed that Australia still had rising gun shot deaths here, but again they were sadly mistaken and trying to make out that its not just America with this problem, when it started to rise again last year, they called for another gun amnesty to hand in weapons and again, it has stopped the rise in deaths, the week after our worst massacre, the acting prime minister bought back guns and we've never had another event like it, and that was nearly 20 years ago.. l guess it was just luck to the NRA that this has happened *lix*
By Andthisisme at 04,Oct,17 10:11 other posts of Andthisisme 
The spokesman for the NRA was asked about your success in Australia after you took action on guns and his response was that both Australia and the UK had confiscated guns not increased gun control laws.
In the Uk you have to have a reason for holding a gun and there is absolutely no aceptable reason for holding the types of weapons that are often used in US massacres.
We, in the UK, shouldn't be too cocky though we have cases where a male who has had his guns confiscated as he is deemed to be unsafe to hold them, has subsequently had them returned only for him to then murder his wife and family. These are rare cases, but they do happen.
By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 10:37 other posts of leopoldij 
The social infrastructure is very different (still) between the UK and the US. There's more empathy between people in the UK. And this doesn't need the concept of a god, as it does in the US. Unfortunately, British think of Americans as closer to them than Europeans because they speak English. But give it a hundred years and the world will be "flat" with a few corporations on top dictating exactly what people should be doing it thinking.
By Andthisisme at 04,Oct,17 17:34 other posts of Andthisisme 
I agree, some people in the U.K do still tend to think of us being 'close' to the U.S in so many ways but the reality is that we have far more in common with the european nations. If the population of the U.S spoke any other language than English we would view the U.S as a very mysterious and maybe evn alien nation.
By phart at 04,Oct,17 18:17 other posts of phart 
I guess none you have read the news about it was found the shooter had been prescribed Valium,which can cause violent outburst in depressed people. The truth escaped somehow. It was legalized dope that prompted the idiot to kill. The guns didn't jump in the window sill on their own and pull their own triggers, a dope head did.
And if there is a hell,I hope his ass is in the basement.
By licksipsuckit at 04,Oct,17 19:17 other posts of licksipsuckit 
he wouldn't have been allowed here in Australia to own automatic or semi automatic weapons for a start, he would have to have a reason to own such guns, like being an active member of a gun club, be a farmer, or a soldier or police officer, he wouldn't be able to amass so many guns and no, no one can predict if someone is going to snap or has a mental problem arise, but in this country, he would not have the access to such a stock pile of military grade artillery, the guns he had, are for soldiers in war zones, not a normal person on the street would need such weapons, firing 860 rounds a minute is absurd, l would never go America for that one reason, there are more guns than people there.. there is no need now for such a quantity of weapons to held by anyone unless your job entails it.. *lix*

By leopoldij at 04,Oct,17 19:20 other posts of leopoldij 
A person with prescribed valium who DOES NOT have guns can only hurt himself, not others. How difficult is it to understand that?
By licksipsuckit at 05,Oct,17 03:48 other posts of licksipsuckit 
lol, yeah you wont get that across the seriously gun mad americans, they seem to think if you keep fighting fire with fire it will all be ok, and you can see where that's got them.. l think we'll just keep watching their natural selection at work *lix*
By Andthisisme at 05,Oct,17 07:48 other posts of Andthisisme 
Lix makes many good points. I have heard once again the mantra 'The solution to a bad man with a gun, is a good man with a gun'.

What I found terrifing last night was an American gun shop owner who put forward his position that the fact that the citizens can own guns means that THEY can TAKE DOWN the government if the government tries to restrict their rights.

This position of such distrust, albeit paranoid, of their government by many citizens says so much about the psyche of too many American citizens. The prepers are just an extreme example.
By licksipsuckit at 05,Oct,17 09:01 other posts of licksipsuckit 
yeah far too many people taking the law into their own hands and using **** to settle a score rather then rational. even totally sane people with a small grudge can turn it into a show down for no real good reason. the government should show some real leadership and not bow down to the minority that make their own rules.. guns kill people, guns in the hands of humans kill people, guns that are supposedly unloaded and safeties on kill innocent ch!ldren, but l think the problems there are so huge, no one wants to take it on.. theyre scared of all the loose canons with guns in their pockets *lix*

By leopoldij at 05,Oct,17 09:14 other posts of leopoldij 
I mean That's the most ridiculous argument I've ever heard. It's not the guns that he used to kill sixty people it's the valium he was taking. What the fuck?
By phart at 05,Oct,17 10:17 other posts of phart 
The dope messed with his brain and lead to the ****.There is no defense for that.It happened and 60 people are dead and many hurting.The doctor should not have prescribed it if the man showed tendency towards ****.

I have a serious problem with folks on legal dope like Valium being able to buy a gun or alcohol. They are already distorted,that stuff just makes it worse.

And hell no, most of us do not trust our government. As long as the citizens are in a position to protect ourselves, the gov is kept in check.

As for bump stocks and shit like that, eh, you can make it ****,fine by me, but you would have to shut down every machine shop in the us and canada to slow down people making their own equipment.

People build their own weapons now from raw metal.That is kinda hard to stop.
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A couple more things.The folks over in europe that were run over by trucks recently died the same as the folks here that got shot. I have not heard of any "truck control" measures being taken in europe have you?

Banning the tool,be it truck,gun,knife,is not going to take away the urge to kill.

It will only prompt creativity on their parts and possibly worse methods,such as poisoning water systems and the air we breath.

I read not to long ago about a guy in japan knifing 12 people to death in a public place. Um,any knife control measures being taken over there? haven't heard about it.

What burns my ass is the media says this lone gunner was not a terrorist. The hell he wasn't.He terrorized 20,000 people! He has alot of Americans afraid to go to music concerts now or to gather in public places. Those are the same goals of the terrorist that are in groups.

And 1 more thing. All of us are aware of the medias habit of sensationalizing everything. When you folks see "preppers" on tv in europe, you are seeing a small portion of Americans that the media is publicizing for the exact effect it is having,to divide people. I have no problem with a man being ready to protect his home and family and having some food and such in case of tornado or something. But yea, those preppers,they take things to the extreme. Those few get you folks all riled up thinking we are all like that. Wrong.
By leopoldij at 05,Oct,17 11:07 other posts of leopoldij 
I know you mean well and you believe what you say. I know you are honest and you don't want to harm anyone. Neither do I. So we agree on this basic thing. And we both know that talking and expressing opposite sides, like we do, will not make me or you physically harm the other person (if we knew each other in real life). So, despite opposing views, there's something in common. We agree on that, I suppose.

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Continuing: You say "most of us do not trust our government".

I agree. I said in a previous posting that all (well, most) politicians are crooks. So, not only I don't trust the government (any government) but I also don't trust anyone who's supposedly protecting people's interests.

However: "As long as the citizens are in a position to protect ourselves, the gov is kept in check."

I disagree. This is an illusion. You can do nothing if the government does something you don't like. They have an army behind them and you have 1, 2, 10 guns. Who's gonna win?

Also: "I read not to long ago about a guy in japan knifing 12 people to death in a public place. Um,any knife control measures being taken over there? haven't heard about it."

I disagree. This is a silly analogy. First, guns are specifically designed to kill. Knives are mostly designed for other purposes. Second, harm can be caused in myriads of other ways. Someone with a heavy stone can bang a few heads and leave their owners dead. In analogy to what you said, "Um,any stone control measures being taken?"

At some other point, I think you said that, given that there are so many guns out there, banning guns will have little if no effect.

I agree. This is part of the problem. You live in a fully armed society and disarming it is almost impossible. Those who will turn in their guns, if it so requested, are those who are not intending to kill. And this leaves the "bad people" even more armed.

Another remark. There is an organization called NRA that spends a lot of money lobbying for guns. And it has indoctrinated you and others. The more you hear about "guns saving lives" the more you buy it. The argument works only in the US.

US is a very special society. In some sense, it is very primitive. At least 40% of the people believe in extraordinarily idiotic things, such as religion and that the earth is 6000 years old. Those people are gullible to anything. Europe used to be different in that respect. Not any more. The amount of idiocy is increasing in Europe too. I have read that there is a high correlation between being a religionist/believer of silly things and owning guns. (I am NOT saying you are one, and am NOT saying that everybody who supports guns is an idiot who believes that dinosaurs and humans coexisted.)

No, we're not going to solve the problem, any problem, here. I have nothing against you or you against me and we both agree in at least one thing: that the loss of 60 lives is tragic. We disagree on who the culprit was but this disagreement is not going to resurrect the dead nor solve the problem.

By phart at 05,Oct,17 16:48 other posts of phart 
Folks that disagree need to talk.That is how shit gets done that all can live with most of the time.
It is 1 side does most of the acting that causes the other side to get in a uproar.

As for the gov having it's army. Well,I aint so sure most of the military personnel would follow orders to take arms against their fellow countrymen. Some might,not all.
And there are alot more citizens than army.They would do alot of damage,but they would never get all.

There are some knives out there that are useful for nothing but hurting.What is a switch blade good for? They are **** here and have been for decades but they are still out there.
A samari sword?
By leopoldij at 05,Oct,17 17:56 other posts of leopoldij 
So we both agree that we agree to disagree (sometimes) and carry on in a civilized manner. And, hey, I don't have guns, you do, so please don't use them against me.
By #536760 at 05,Oct,17 18:39
Just one in the foot. phart
By phart at 05,Oct,17 22:20 other posts of phart 
My gun actually needs cleaning and oiling as it has not been fired in several months and is dusty.Thankfully I have not needed it. Actually my other "gun" is in similar condition,it needs to be fired,but no "target" around.
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,17 09:36 other posts of leopoldij 
Why don't you go to the mixed sexes shooting range and ask a girl there if she could help you clean and fire your gun? Start the conversation this way and then, slowly, proceed to showing her all your guns.
By phart at 06,Oct,17 17:51 other posts of phart 
well,I could take both my gun and my "gun" and see what happens.
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,17 18:07 other posts of leopoldij 
She might like to suck it.

By #538435 at 11,Oct,17 04:33
well we dont have a parliament and we are not a democracy . we are a republic with a constitution that sets the rules quite clearly . one does not just write a law and change the constitution . as for your tired old musket attack on the 2nd , those guns that took over a minute to load were the best of the time just as we now arm ourselves with the best . the 2nd amendment to our constitution is there so that we as a free people can defend ourselves from our government should they not stay within the narrow parameters that our constitution lays out for them

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By mr_blue at 16,Oct,17 10:10 other posts of mr_blue 
Colin Kaepernick files grievance accusing NFL owners of collusion

By leopoldij at 11,Oct,17 06:08 other posts of leopoldij 
India Supreme Court rules sex with ch1ld bride is r.a.p.e
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By licksipsuckit at 11,Oct,17 06:50 other posts of licksipsuckit 
gee shouldn't take a rocket scientist and a high court to work that out, any bloke with half an ounce of morals should know what constitutes r@pe with ****d ch!ld, this world is more fucked up the more educated we come, take out all those religious nutters first and that would save half the worlds problems.. *Lix*

By Andthisisme at 11,Oct,17 09:27 other posts of Andthisisme 
i just saw this news item. An excellent decision. Sadly, in many rural communities far from the Supreme Court this decision may make little difference in reality. In so many countries 'cultural norms' trump the law. I really hope that I am wrong.
By phart at 11,Oct,17 10:10 other posts of phart 
There will be alot of negative repercussions I am afraid.
Although it is common sense to many people that you leave a k1d alone sexually till they are mature,those folks have been doing this for 100's of years.To them it is normal. To them telling the men they can't do it anymore is just going to get these y0ung girls killed if they even think about talking.
If they don't value the youth any more than to screw them like goats,they sure don't value their lives as a whole.
I hope this is 1 law that works for the sake of the kids but don't get your hopes up to quick.It will take years to begin to make a dent in it.
By leopoldij at 11,Oct,17 11:21 other posts of leopoldij 
In some other places, tradition has it to let the 6 year old kids use guns. It's hard to change that too.

By leopoldij at 11,Oct,17 11:19 other posts of leopoldij 
No, you're not wrong. I read that the law will be hard to enforce. You see, in India, getting married to a 15 yr old entitled you to legally have sex with her. Such traditions are very hard to change, especially when there is an exchange of money involved.

By leopoldij at 11,Oct,17 11:20 other posts of leopoldij 
"In so many countries 'cultural norms' trump the law."

Trump trumps the law. So? What happens?
By Andthisisme at 11,Oct,17 11:40 other posts of Andthisisme 
The Indian - or other countries - justice system has to keep 'fighting' to change those cultural attitudes that they wish to change. A long battle I think.
By leopoldij at 11,Oct,17 12:09 other posts of leopoldij 
For sure...

By Andthisisme at 10,Oct,17 09:16 other posts of Andthisisme 
This thread about guns in the U.S could run and run and opposing sides would never come to any agreement. Nothing new is really being said now, just entrenched positions being repeated.
Maybe it is time for us just acknowledge that we have had our say and that the situation is what it is and we will never change 'believers' on either sides minds.
By phart at 10,Oct,17 10:53 other posts of phart 
Yes,the thread could run and run. BUT this thread may cause folks to think more about the issue. Is that not what is needed? People to communicate and think?
By Andthisisme at 10,Oct,17 13:16 other posts of Andthisisme 
That is true of course.

By Andthisisme at 11,Oct,17 09:24 other posts of Andthisisme 
That is fair comment of course. My point was though that in fact large numbers of the people holding the different viewpoints are really deaf to any argument that does not fit with their preconceived view.
You are right though communication and thought are essential if entrenched viewpoints are going to change.

By dgraff at 06,Oct,17 20:38 other posts of dgraff 
I strongly urge every law abiding American that can legally own a hand gun and can obtain a concealed weapons permit to do so regardless of what the foreigners on this site say
By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 20:52
Yea good on ya cheesal.
dont shoot yourself in the foot.
By bella! at 06,Oct,17 21:10 other posts of bella! 
Truthfully, I don't know if I want to understand you or your actions.

You said you feel the need to deflect crap away from people you think highly of. But in doing so, you are tossing crap at others. An eye for an eye?

He's not attacking anyone, he's talking about a gun so why call him a cheezal? What's up with that?
By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:37
Because his full of cheese goodness.

By dgraff at 06,Oct,17 21:34 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah any way lcudoiwill2 grow up once and I'm an weapons expert no chance of shooting my self
By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:43
Yeah any way lcudoiwill2 grow up once and I'm an weapons expert.
Yep says it all. Better to keep your mouth shut and let people think your a dick than to open it and prove it.
By dgraff at 07,Oct,17 07:24 other posts of dgraff 
I believe I was addressing the Americans if I wanted any lip from you lcudoiwill2 I would scrape it off my pants zipper
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By CountryCouple54 at 06,Oct,17 22:57 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Welcome to the Gunshine state. We have 1.9 million registered gun owners in Florida. Each with an average of 6 guns per owner. Do the math. There are 1.4 million registered military members in all branches of the US military. Each assigned 3 guns. Just the state of Florida has more guns than the US military. There is an estimated 300 million guns in the US. Come take em away. Good luck.
By bella! at 06,Oct,17 23:04 other posts of bella! 
Don't shoot yourself in the foot. Gee, what disparaging name can I call You?
By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:49
Not sure what your problem is but I'm sure it's hard to spell.

By CountryCouple54 at 10,Oct,17 17:16 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Just don't call me late to dinner.

By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:46
Not ignoring you your just insignificant.
By CountryCouple54 at 10,Oct,17 17:17 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Yes, you are.
By #536760 at 11,Oct,17 04:31
It took you three days to reply. It could be said your ignoring me. That is so rude. Your just nasty. And...... ?

By cody8789 at 06,Oct,17 23:19 other posts of cody8789 
I own several guns and even though I've never shot one b4, and I'm still alittle afraid of them, I plan to get a concealed permit so when I learn how to shoot them and become used to them, I will feel protected.
By bella! at 06,Oct,17 23:22 other posts of bella! 
And where do you live? In the Gunshine State! Duh!
By dgraff at 07,Oct,17 07:32 other posts of dgraff 
Pennsylvania is like Texas every one has a hand gun on them I weare them like jewelry under my coat in my pockets and in my cowboy boots I refuse to become a statistics
By phart at 07,Oct,17 09:13 other posts of phart 
As I have said before,the media loves to drum up stuff to divide people and cause arguments.It is how they get advertising business.
The folks that let themselves be seen on tv brandishing their weapons are not the normal.That is the dramatization I am speaking of.
Unless a person threatens me,they will never know what I have until it is to late for them. Then probably it won't even be a gun that I use,that is last resort. There are other ways. And it pays to know folks with backhoes.

1 day some asshole is going to go "fishing" and taint a water supply with poison for a large city and kill 100's and the damn media will find a rusty musket in the boat and blame it.
By dgraff at 07,Oct,17 12:35 other posts of dgraff 
I couldn't agree with you more

By #538435 at 11,Oct,17 04:00
I often ask my wife as we get dressed to go out "hun , which gun goes best with this jacket"

By Andthisisme at 07,Oct,17 13:28 other posts of Andthisisme 
God help the United States of America !!
By leopoldij at 07,Oct,17 14:28 other posts of leopoldij 
Why do Americans always invoke god when they talk about their country? Which god are they referring to? There are so many gods out there. Saudis do the same but their god is different. Such medieval habit!
By phart at 07,Oct,17 15:10 other posts of phart 
Medieval habit perhaps,but it is a "habit" our guns defend the right to repeat as we see fit. It is called freedom of religion.
What defense do the folks in gun free country's have? It seems bonfires and rocks make for alot of confusion and trouble right?
I always wanted to be in a postion to buy a couple old freighter ships and fill them to the brim with sharp,hand size rocks and haul them over to there where rock throwing is a habit. Should be able to make good money selling virgin rocks with good sharp corners. The rocks being thrown now are probably round and smooth as baseballs.
By leopoldij at 07,Oct,17 17:48 other posts of leopoldij 
I think you missed the point. I was talking about the absurd habit of invoking some kind of god in combination with America. This is what is very primitive (for a secular democracy); not least because there are many gods.

By #536760 at 07,Oct,17 21:06
It is the God of have the biggest gun,ego,trucks,crime rate,

accidental shootings,rich who have no morals,socio paths,

discrepancy between rich and poor,record of attacking miner

country's ONLY for their gain,making up history to make them

look good,ignoring global warming and generally not giving a fuck

about the rest of the planet unless there's money to be made.

Thy Mighty God Ego. Just take advantage of the less fortunate and you may enter thy pearly gates of cheese Berger's and coke a cola.

The really really really sad thing is people like dgraff actually picture taking their guns with them. Are the people in power in the us, who are in charge of the education of their people really any better than the Taliban ?
By phart at 09,Oct,17 22:34 other posts of phart 
Yea, we are better than the Taliban.We have our faults but who is perfect? Sure aint no one in Australia . Nor anywhere else.

Global warming is a minor issue that is blown out of proportion to gain control and manipulate the economy. The powers that be want us back to walking and riding bicycles. Just as you said,the rich with no morals,like Algore for instance, enjoys riding in fine new 60,000 dollar Suburbans while the rest of the country is suppose to sacrifice for the "greater good". FuCK ALGORE and his minions. "Damn it feels good to say that!

If you know anything about trucks, hauling something heavy with to small a truck can get people killed.It is a safety issue for alot of us. We want brakes big enough to stop the load.

I don't drink Coke.
And besides,by the time I get to the pearly gates they will be yellowed and stained and i would probably wind spending eternity scrubbing them.

By Andthisisme at 08,Oct,17 05:19 other posts of Andthisisme 
It is bizarre that a country that quite deliberately decided at it's birth to separate state and religion has such significant and powerful fundamentalist religious pressure groups.
By leopoldij at 08,Oct,17 10:20 other posts of leopoldij 
Yes, it is. But what is EVEN MORE BIZARRE is that the majority of Americans do not see the contradiction between this and their original constitution. And that even presidents have to refer to gods.

By rocket1 at 07,Oct,17 14:41 other posts of rocket1 
that was for dgraff

By #511804 at 07,Oct,17 18:55
I agree, why have just one?

By sherryann at 08,Oct,17 13:41 other posts of sherryann 
For dgraff, I fully agree with you. Trouble is, some of us aren't expert shooter's like you are, and shooting instructor's, range time, and ammunition can get expensive.
By dgraff at 09,Oct,17 22:00 other posts of dgraff 
It does get expensive I shoot every Sunday morning
By #536760 at 11,Oct,17 04:24
Watch your feet.

By #538435 at 11,Oct,17 04:06
this is why many of us reload and shoot on private land

By #525562 at 08,Oct,17 23:05
Yes I support you,everyone that feels confident,willing and has training or understanding of the ramifications of concealed carry and chooses to carry,you are a stronger person than I.

By CountryCouple54 at 10,Oct,17 07:35 other posts of CountryCouple54 
The problem is not legal carrying law-abiding citizens. It's the crazy fucks who are doped up on drugs and prescription medication and the criminals who commit these crimes. And as I have said before what good does it do to take the guns away from the good people because the bad people always have a way to get il-legal weapons. Then you take the rights of the good people away from protecting themselves from the bad people. Will this happen again, of course. Should you be confined to your house and scared to go outside or to an event, hell no.
By #435701 at 10,Oct,17 14:54
It all comes down to the percentage of 'good' people and 'bad' people. And the exact definition of each...but just to keep it simple as good n bad...I believe there are more bad than good. And therefore a total shame that good people need guns to protect themselves from bad people...It is a NEVER ending cycle which will only end @ the point I stated in my comment...How MANY dead will it take for a country to realize only the gun manufacturer's and funeral director's win?...America and it's gun's are just the microcosm of the World and it's Nuclear weapons. Will anyone realize before it's too late the lunacy of any kind of weapon?...We may be on the verge of another much BIGGER lesson than one guy and a gun in an American city.
By CountryCouple54 at 10,Oct,17 17:12 other posts of CountryCouple54 
You guys are missing the point. Being ex military, guns are second nature to me. My boys have been taught since they were 10 years old how to respect the damage a gun can do. We have been hunting together since that age. They can take a gun apart, clean it , and put it back together in 15 minutes. I was taught the same from my father and grandfather. I always wanted my boys to be the ones at a friend's house when another k-id pulls out his father's gun, to be able to take it, unchamber the bullet, pull the clip, then hand it back before one of them gets killed. I do not agree with being able to be buy fully automatic assault rifles or the parts to make a semi automatic fully automatic. But as I stated before, the fuck tards will always find weapons, even military grade. So until they can find a way to remove the guns from the fuck tards, I will be keeping mine.

By leopoldij at 10,Oct,17 17:33 other posts of leopoldij 
Good/bad, bad/good. Nonsense. The world isn't classified this way. Good people are good for some something, bad for something else. And vice versa

By #525562 at 10,Oct,17 22:38
It is not doped up and prescription people committing these crimes, it has been law abiding citizens who have chosen to kill fellow citizens.

By #435701 at 09,Oct,17 13:52
US citizen and gun owner. One semi-auto handgun just in case because this country is full of loons that are all armed to the fucking teeth, apparently....How can anyone actually compare gun killings to knives, blunt objects, strangulations etc.? These comparisons are so obviously apples and oranges simply because all of them require strength and up close and VERY personal killing. Yer gonna get wet and injured too!..Whereas with a gun, someone can just in a very indifferent and easy manner, pull the trigger a few times. No mess, (except the one you will make as you bleed out or your brains make as they splatter the wall) no muss. And as far as using vehicles, you will have NO chance of surviving your extremely cowardly act. Assuming you want to, of course. So lets just drop that argument also, as those people are prepared to NOT survive. The US has on average 30,000 gun deaths a year, now. Going up every year. As is gun ownership. That nearly matches automobile deaths! And those (mostly) are NOT intentional...So I leave you with a simple question. Or 2...Now that this has happened in Las Vegas with what is basically an aftermarket fully automatic weapon...let's just say machine gun. Technically correct terms are just dumb. Lots of people did not understand the difference between semi and fully automatic guns before this. That was quite an expensive education wasn't it??...the light has been lit in lots of 'Abby Normal' brains as to how easy this was to kill 58 and wound nearly 12 FUCKING minutes. Do that with a baseball bat or knife...1st question; Do you think this will happen again?...Very rhetorical, I admit. 2nd question; If nearly 550 people being killed or injured is NOT enough to finally DO something, how many WILL it take?!!...Because America was LUCKY this time! Look at all the guns and thousands of rounds of ammo he had in his expensive suite as he looked down on all those little 'ants', each with a life every bit as full as yours...BTW. How safe are you going to personally feel the next time you attend something that is crawling with your fellow 'ants'?
By phart at 09,Oct,17 19:36 other posts of phart 
Yes,the tragedy at Las Vegas was a expensive education for everyone in the country.

But what are people learning?

People that live in a fog and think they are safe with a cell phone and 9-11 on speed dial have not learned anything.

People that h@te guns, they have learned that they can holler about taking guns away even louder.All while peoples emotions are still reeling from the loss of life and are desperate to do something to prevent it from happening again.The gun haters have learned how to play on people's emotions and get knee jurk reaction laws put in place.

Legitimate gun owners have only learned, they have even more to fear than the evil within their fellow man. They have to be afraid of the antigun crowd taking their rights,a inch at the time.

What should they be learning from Las Vegas you ask? Learn that prescription drugs can cause people harm and to do harm just as 11egal 1's can.

We all need to learn to be more watchful of our fellow man.

We also need to learn there is cable tv , satellite tv and radio and internet.

You do not need a front row seat at a event to witness it. Stay home and watch the event in safety.Make your safety YOUR responsibility.. Don't stress 1aw3nforcem3nt to the limits trying to protect large crowds.

Shop online,stay the hell out of the malls.

Those are things I learned,shortly after 9-11.

oh,you all done forgot about that haven't you? No guns involved.

By dgraff at 10,Oct,17 05:46 other posts of dgraff 
Just because a man carrys a hand gun doesn't all ways mean he needs to use it I was in my local state store buying a half gallon of Yukon jack around the Christmas holiday and a scruffy man was in there acting very nervous with his hand in his pocket from were I was standing in could see it was a knife the man waited till no one was up at the cash register and he walked up to the store clerk so I quickly walk up beside him setting my bottle down with a thud the man turns and looks at me and I open my motorcycle jacket just enough that he can see the scorpion burned in the rose wood grips on my 45 long slide the man quickly ran out the front door and the store clerk thanked me and shook my hand for calmly defusing a potential situation
By phart at 10,Oct,17 10:52 other posts of phart 

A friend of mine was in a parking lot waiting for his wife to come out of the store. He saw a glimpse of something in his mirror and laid the barrel of his pistol up on the door with the window open,suddenly there was a scruffy guy dropping a pistol and running off from his car. No shots fired,no 1 hurt. Just a display of 1's ability to defend themselves was enough to save both lives and maby ,just maby, change that bad guys mind about his career choices. i doubt it but who knows. And a free throw away pistol to boot!

By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:55
Thumbs up if you'd like to see the yanks disappear in a poof.
By dgraff at 07,Oct,17 07:39 other posts of dgraff 
I would love to see a giant tiger snake attempt to swallow you a big one can swallow a kangaroo I sure they would have no problem swallowing a sawed off runt like you
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What's the deal in Australia any way most the men are 5ft 3in tall and 120lbs soaking wet and most the woman are 6ft + and 350lbs do you import your women from the amazon????
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Oh I'm sorry duh metric system your probably to stupid to convert it
By #536760 at 07,Oct,17 17:33
Be very careful what you say. We now have intercontinental spud guns.
By phart at 09,Oct,17 22:38 other posts of phart 
UM taters! I like taters! That is Spud for some of you,potato for others!
By #536760 at 10,Oct,17 02:31
Give me your gps location. You want some frozen peas too?

By #525562 at 09,Oct,17 23:11
No Yankees fan here but something here makes me want to think deeper,
By #536760 at 10,Oct,17 02:32
Don't think too hard. Even I don't know what I meant.

By leopoldij at 09,Oct,17 17:22 other posts of leopoldij 
"Trump seems to have figured out that if you refuse to be shamed, it gives you enormous power." (The Guardian, today.)

By #536760 at 06,Oct,17 23:51
Remember to touch the little arrows to put replies in place.

By kebmo at 05,Oct,17 23:54 other posts of kebmo 
This is generally a true statement from Barrack Obama regarding gun laws in the US. Listen to what is being said, not who is saying it because it's not a partisan message that happens to be from the Occupy Democrats Facebook page.

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By leopoldij at 06,Oct,17 18:06 other posts of leopoldij 
He's right and what he's saying is actually very rational.

By leopoldij at 05,Oct,17 15:09 other posts of leopoldij 
Breaking news:
Las Vegas shooting: NRA urges new rules for gun 'bump-stocks'
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I think I'll bark at nothing now. Bah. Bah bah bah.
By #537944 at 05,Oct,17 08:26
You've too much free time on your hands

By onthelose at 31,Aug,17 15:15 other posts of onthelose 
Lix, andthisisme makes a good point. N Korea has hundreds of cannons and missiles aimed at Sol S Korea 30 miles away. He for sure wants to stay in power. His time is limited because someone sometime will get to him sometime but who takes his place and what are they going to be like. We have seen examples of this in the middle east. Be careful what you ask for you might just get it! The next guy might just use the nukes instead of just saying h e is going to.
By Andthisisme at 03,Sep,17 09:04 other posts of Andthisisme 
Exactly the point i was making in reply earlier - "be very careful what you wish for".
By dgraff at 19,Sep,17 18:06 other posts of dgraff 
Why is it all ways the Americans that get elected to defuse the situation can't any of the other country's take care of it its only one little country what about the brits or Australian or the Russians Japan or China certainly some one has the balls to take north Korea out with out the Americans holding there hand
By onthelose at 19,Sep,17 21:19 other posts of onthelose 
Well Russians and Chinese are his trading partners and China has a common border. So they are worried that their will be a huge influx of Koreans if something bad happens. It doesn't hurt that this distracts us from what Russia and China are doing against us. Russia, Ukraine, China, Islands in the south China sea.
By #536760 at 20,Sep,17 00:25
And sorry but our Aussie brainiac,s are to busy arguing about same sex marriage . Way to busy to be thinking about( a nile er a shon) death to all.

By cody8789 at 25,Sep,17 15:53 other posts of cody8789 
Americans have Allways taken care of the world. I can't figure that out either.

By licksipsuckit at 04,Sep,17 01:49 other posts of licksipsuckit 
the next bloke might give a rats arse about his fellow man and decide to make N Korea a better place, by doing something good for a change, like feeding his people and letting them have some electricity instead of pulling his dick ... seems like it must be small judging from the size of missiles.. he's over compensating for something lm sure *lix*
By #525562 at 25,Sep,17 20:10
Show your money path and i will follow,

By #525562 at 25,Sep,17 20:05
I agree with you all the way.

By licksipsuckit at 29,Aug,17 04:52 other posts of licksipsuckit 
'look at my weapons of mass destruction', North Korea says to the rest of the world, lm sure he's not shooting milk powder tins over Japan, and the world sits back and lets this joker keep waving his shit about. lm sure some country invaded another on the presumption that they had weapons of mass destruction, gee they even put a bomb into the factory they thought held these weapons, which could have been catastrophic...what if the site held more then they bargained for? but when this tiny man with a tiny dick waves his big weapons all over the place, everyone sits on their hands and twiddles their thumbs. 16 years later those pretend weapons that would have done no damage are still being fought over, with no end in sight, but we'll have a war happening pretty soon when one of these dud missiles from North Korea falls on a unsuspecting country. whats the world coming too?? *lix*
By Andthisisme at 29,Aug,17 05:44 other posts of Andthisisme 
I can understand that people may feel really frustrated with North Korea but I would make a couple of points.

1) Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria. Look how their turned out.

2) I have read compelling analysis that suggests that Kim is solely concerned with his remaining in power. All of this is about making sure that he is not invaded. That the US realise the risks of invasion or attempting regime change.
3) Kim is no doubt very aware of what happened to Colonel Gadaffi of libya who in a rapprochment with the West gave up his nuclear arsenal in return for better relations..that didn't end well for him.

'We' need to lower the temperature of the rhetoric so that he feels less paranoid, not stoke his paranoia.
By licksipsuckit at 31,Aug,17 08:47 other posts of licksipsuckit 
he needs pulling up, and in a hurry, l don't care if he's paranoid, theres going to be a big accident soon and other people will be picking up the tab for letting this dick head carry on testing, if something isn't done, it affects my side of the planet and if the yanks can bomb the crap out of the middle east for having pretend weapons, they can do the right thing for a change and pull this joker up .. lm pretty sure they have bigger weapons of mass destruction and should show him just how big they are *lix*
By Andthisisme at 31,Aug,17 09:55 other posts of Andthisisme 
I do appreciate that many people take a similar view. So the question then is can the U.S destroy ALL, and it does have to be ALL, of Kim's missiles before he has the chance to launch them?

If not how many innocent civilians along with military personel are going to be killed or injured in Guam, South Korea or who know where? How many deaths are acceptable?
By licksipsuckit at 04,Sep,17 01:46 other posts of licksipsuckit 
take out Kim and his pompous Generals, all have chests full of medals and none have ever seen any military action, so lm sure they can be picked up by a metal detector from outspace.. or we can just sit and wait for the catastrophy to happen, as lm sure it will, and pretty soon judging by all the recent acts of 'provocation' coming from Kims side of the border *lix*
By #435701 at 11,Sep,17 12:39
I wish it were JUST that a hole **** in his dark little country. But, there is Russia with it's 'wargames' and 100,000 men along Nato border. And the 'forgotten' invasions of Crimea and Ukraine. They are not done as long as the Pooter is in power... China with it's territory thieving in the S. China Sea. China and Pakistan long standing border trouble which recurred recently. Both nuclear countries...The friggin' UNRELENTING Middle Fucking East!! All those 'small' wars in Africa. South America and it's financial troubles. Mexico and drugs...This World is spinning totally out of control...Did I mention 'Muricah' and it's gun ****, divisions, political BS?...Yeah, something bad is about to happen somewhere. Lets all hope it is NOT nuclear.
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By onthelose at 19,Sep,17 21:26 other posts of onthelose 
I agree but he has threatened to blow us off the face of the earth, do we just let him get to the point where he can carry out his wishes. We have been talking to him for 25 years. Where did that get us. Not blown, up I realize. We gave him money, none of which got to his people, and he still went on with his program. No good answers I am afraid.

By leopoldij at 12,Sep,17 07:27 other posts of leopoldij 
What do you think of that?

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Who are those idiots who fall for these kind of religious/nationalistic slogans used by private corporations in order to make money? Why would anyone enter a business that displays such silly slogans? How many morons are out there, I wonder...

By mr_blue at 03,Sep,17 08:32 other posts of mr_blue 
I know very little of world affairs, especially America....
I'm just a dumb limey prick who doesn't research anything and spouts crap....

Tell you what, bash the UK,tell me how you form an opinion without reading the news or talking to people that live there.....please.....cuz I'm fed up of being told I don't live somewhere so I can't understand how things work....

You don't like what I say,ignore my topics,blacklist me and fuck off....
It's just opinion.... don't take your issues out on me....
By Dev01 at 03,Sep,17 08:39 other posts of Dev01 
Dont sweat it bro.... vettie and i have always loved you for YOU. Dont buy into ignorance :x :x :x
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And never fuckin ever sell yourself short like that bro

By Andthisisme at 03,Sep,17 09:13 other posts of Andthisisme 
Like you I am always careful to be sure to have a grasp/understanding of what I am talking about if I make a post. It is always possible that I will ge things wrong but sometimes it is the person 'outside' who has a clearer view than the person 'inside'.

Politics in the US is so polarised at the moment that rational views are too often obscured/drowned out by people with their own deeply held agendas.

Like it or not decisions taken by the U.S president often have repurcussions far outside the US and as a result us 'outsiders' do have opinons.
By Dev01 at 03,Sep,17 09:31 other posts of Dev01 
I dont do political but i do stand up for my freinds. Dont look for something that aint there.

By mr_blue at 03,Sep,17 09:38 other posts of mr_blue 
It's all good bro,andthisisme makes some good points
By Dev01 at 03,Sep,17 09:49 other posts of Dev01 
Wasnt having a go at anyone just over trump and hillary crap.... at the end of the day i dont want to pay 10 bucks for a litre of milk
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By phart at 03,Sep,17 10:35 other posts of phart 
bash the UK,hum, well we fought a war and got our independence from you all years back. So not much to trash ye over.
You aint done us no harm . It was also good to see you all got out of that damn EU shit. Go back to running your country as you see fit instead of letting everyone else decide your futures.
By #517356 at 03,Sep,17 12:30
Love the bit about leaving the ' EU shit ' , nice to see that some Americans see where we are trying to go. Shame the EU are making themselves look really stupid by trying to ' educate the UK in what Brexit really means ' ... they forget one thing , ultimately , they need us more than we need them!

By CountryCouple54 at 14,Jul,17 10:11 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I still don't understand why it's people living outside the US that's doing all the bitching about Trump. It is what it is for another 4 years. Get over it.
By JustWill at 14,Jul,17 10:22 other posts of JustWill 
There are plenty of people INSIDE the US who think he is a complete train-wreck,buffoon,con artist and an embarrassment to the nation. I know, I am one of them.
"Get over it" isn't an option.
You can't get rid of mildew in your shower if you just sit around and wait four years for it to go away.
You have to scrub that shit clean!
By CountryCouple54 at 14,Jul,17 10:37 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Well, I think the same. But so far nothing is being done about it. So like I said, it is what it is. What's the alternative at this point, Hilary?
By JustWill at 14,Jul,17 14:14 other posts of JustWill 
No. The alternative is Vice President Pence (which would be a nightmare of a totally different kind, but at least he isn't a complete moron). Hillary lost, so that door--no matter how distasteful--is closed for good.
My point is that just sitting by quietly without saying anything and letting Trump and his "family" make a mockery of the US is not going to make anything better. Sure, we are probably screwed for the next three and a half years, but that doesn't mean we have to take it lying down. That's not the American way. Besides, you can bet your ass that, if he weren't the president, Trump would be running his blathering yap every chance he got to complain.
By CountryCouple54 at 14,Jul,17 14:49 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Problem with these crazy fucks is they can't protest peacefully. So as long as innocent people as well as police officers aren't being harmed with violent protests over Trump, I'm good with it. We just have to eat shit till his term is over.

By dgraff at 15,Jul,17 07:04 other posts of dgraff 
We tried the vice president thing twice in my life time with big ear Johnson and Gerald Ford that was a joke so who would be your pick for the ideal president mine would be Eddie Murphy
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By bella! at 15,Jul,17 09:38 other posts of bella! 
JustWill, in your opinion, what should the Americans have done at the polls in November, 2016?
By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 19:06 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah just will who's your pick and be honest and remember schools out for the summer sooooo be you
By JustWill at 19,Jul,17 10:37 other posts of JustWill 
I've made it apparent for quite some time here that I believed that Hillary was the lesser of the two evils. All things considered, both were horrible choices. However, Clinton was capable of behaving like a rational adult and could construct an intelligible sentence in the English language. I also believe that, of the two, she would have done less damage to the country and its reputation with the rest of the world.
By cody8789 at 27,Jul,17 19:00 other posts of cody8789 
You are right on

By #525562 at 23,Aug,17 21:22
I am with you,scrub down till you believe!

By Andthisisme at 14,Jul,17 15:53 other posts of Andthisisme 
We in the rest of the world are just seriously concerned about a world leader who seems unable to control his twitter finger and the seems unable to stop himself saying either foolish or offensive things in those tweets.
I have little doubt that if he stopped tweeting he would do himself no end of good.

We in the UK face the prospect of possibly having Jeremy Corbyn as prime minister in the near future. He is not Donald Trump, he is in fact a very geniune person with deeply held beliefs ; but what beliefs. His party will lead us back to the 1970's, a horror story that i remember so well.
By #537944 at 14,Jul,17 20:24
Hillary wouldn't be any better, but why is it people still bring her up? She isn't president and committed political suicide.
By JustWill at 14,Jul,17 20:46 other posts of JustWill 
Because the "Hillary card" is the only one that Trump supporters have to play when someone points out what a horrible president their guy is.
Correction--they also play the "Obama card" a lot. Mostly because, when the facts are against you, deflection sometimes works.
By phart at 14,Jul,17 23:10 other posts of phart 
I agree that Tweeter should block trumps account so he will concentrate on his job more.

But all these words, train-wreck,buffoon,con artist and an embarrassment to the nation, apply so well to oblowma.

3.5 years. perhaps,if the liberals will take a deep breath and rest a while, we will see some improvement during that time.

The liberals throwing out stumbling blocks are a real problem. Stumbling block such as the sanctuary city thing the judge won't reinstate. That judge is saying it is ok for those citys to hide **** immigrant criminals. Trump can't fix immigration with that stumbling block in the way.

Imagine trying to paint your house and some baffoon coming along and hosing it down with thinner every 15 minutes. Would you get upset?

Well, Trump is trying to fix the US, and the baffoons are thinning down his solutions and causing a problem. So he is upset.
By #88520 at 15,Jul,17 03:41
Yeah it's really annoying when people try and stop you from harassing minorities, taking away peoples health care and prevent your love affair with Russia. Must be tough to be Trump.

I think it should be obvious by now that he has no interest in putting in any work. All he does it watch the news and scream about it on twitter, he's too lazy to read any reports or briefings to educate himself on the matters that he has to make decisions about. I guess that's fine with you though as long as he shares your dislike for anything that looks vaguely Mexican or muslim.
By dgraff at 15,Jul,17 06:28 other posts of dgraff 
Hey deadend and just will if you guys are so smart tell us how many billion dollars have you guys made in your life time maybe you two should team up and run for president next time we could all use a laugh we the people had to try something new the old ways haven't worked trickle down economic who ever thought of that happy horse shit
By mr_blue at 15,Jul,17 08:05 other posts of mr_blue 
So having made a billion dollars cuz his daddy worked hard is better than being educated...and you wonder why immigration is so high... dgraff the GOP have brainwashed people into blaming everyone else except themselves...and they are very good at it..
Have you not worked out by now that it is Congress that make laws and budget decisions and not Trump..
And you are not trying anything new with trump,he is just another stooge for wall Street like the two before him...probably even all the way back to those billionaire guys you hold in high regard couldn't give a shit about you...
By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 19:30 other posts of dgraff 
Let me tell you this I'm a high school drop out but I had a strong back and a will to work I'm now a business man of over 30 years and I'm doing well and I've made some investmentsort that are doing well also I don't work for some one else like you do I'm a free man and loving it I'say what I want like trump and I'm going to be the first high school drop out to have a million dollars in the bank
By mr_blue at 16,Jul,17 19:51 other posts of mr_blue 
You don't know shit about me and my employment...
And I'm a high school dropout too,so what's your point ?
.. you're not a free man,delude yourself all you want about that,if you were free there would be no pay taxes,so not free,you pay to eat,so not free,you pay to drink water,so not commit a crime,guess what,yeah still not free.... America is not the home of the free,it has some of the highest incarceration rates in the western world...
You are owned by your possessions,and now they own you!!!...
So still not free....

You got lucky,
Lots of people have the will to work,most people don't want to live on welfare,but what are they gonna do when there are no jobs being created!?
So they are not free either....
Those investments you talk about are at the mercy of someone else,so you don't have the security you think you have...
And if you'd gotten ill before Obamacare came in,it would've eaten your savings and investments,so yeah,still not free dgraff....

By #88520 at 15,Jul,17 10:57
It's very strange to acknowledge that trickle down economics is horse shit and at the same time defend voting for a president and political party that only wants to further push wealth and power to big corporations and the already super rich. Did people actually believe that a person like Donald Trump would care about normal working people?

Since I'm Swedish I can assure you that you don't have to worry about having me as president
By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 10:55 other posts of dgraff 
Why not they let Obama be president and he was a sand -----
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By mr_blue at 16,Jul,17 12:18 other posts of mr_blue 
Was he in game of thrones ?...
By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 19:14 other posts of dgraff 
No he was in the game of bones
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By mr_blue at 16,Jul,17 20:00 other posts of mr_blue 
And get to some constructive criticism dgraff,cuz you are fulfilling a stereotype with your comments about Obama....
I can sit here and back up why I dislike Trump,what are you doing ?
By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 21:12 other posts of dgraff 
Your a fucking duch bag Alex and there's plenty of members that will agree with me you British ass hole
By mr_blue at 16,Jul,17 22:42 other posts of mr_blue 
Why thank you dgraff and those members are entitled to think I'm an asshole, doesn't mean they disrespect me cuz they disagree with me... I'm opinionated,big woop, challenge my point of view, don't just call people names.
By #511804 at 19,Jul,17 20:06
draff is allowed his free speech. It is your choice to read it and then reply. There seems to be a clear disagreement on your political thoughts. Why are you continuing to seek his thoughts? I think he made his feelings clear.
By mr_blue at 19,Jul,17 20:31 other posts of mr_blue 
You go on about free speech as if it gives you the right to say absolutely anything you like about someone without recourse...fuck that mravg2u.... it's called principles...
And dgraff told me exactly why he h@tes Obama in private message,and that reason is so fucking against everything I stand while I appreciate you trying to diffuse the situation, it's not of your concern.
By #511804 at 20,Jul,17 05:29
If you wish Alex, I am merely pointing out you are the one who chooses to continue. Of course that is your right to free speech. Good luck.

By dgraff at 22,Jul,17 20:25 other posts of dgraff 
There's no situation Alex you don't like who I am and I don't like who you are like I said before we will just have to agree to disagree case closed

By Arexa at 22,Jul,17 21:27 other posts of Arexa 
It sounds to me like you're simply intolerant of those who don't share your bigoted opinions....
By dgraff at 22,Jul,17 22:03 other posts of dgraff 
I'm trying to be the bigger man here and end this

By phart at 15,Jul,17 07:38 other posts of phart 
If people are put to work,they can buy their own health care instead of depending on others to give it to them.

I think back to 9-11 and witnessing 2 airplanes flying into our twin towers and the "harassing" minority's issue fades because I know what is being done now is to try and protect me and my fellow Americans from that happening again. Sadly I think England and Germany have had way to many terrorism attacks to ignore the facts as well. It is time for governments of the world to drop the political correctness horseshit and do what is necessary to protect their country's and their citizens.
By #88520 at 15,Jul,17 11:27
Every other developed nation can afford to provide healthcare to their citizens, don't see why you would want some kind of survival of the fittest solution in the US. I can assure you that an unhealthy population won't do anything good to the economy of your country. I also don't understand why you're so down on Obama when a lot more jobs were created during his time in power than the previous Bush yeasr, seems like you should give him props for that :p

There are over a billion muslims in the world so it's just really unproductive and misguided to treat them all as threats because of something a very tiny extremist part of their religion supports. You're giving the terrorist exactly what they want by fueling some kind of us versus them mentality between muslims and the rest of the world.
By phart at 15,Jul,17 16:19 other posts of phart 
The terrorist had and still have a large support group made up of folks that will never show up on the radar or commit a actual act of terror.

To say it is a tiny part of the whole is not all true. Those that knew and did not speak up,those that helped, those that continue to support, are the 1's the new immigration system would be affecting. If the individual muslim is peaceful they should understand the need to protect their peace and that of everyone else.If America is threatened and they are living here, then they should feel as much in danger as any other religious group. Has a terrorist bomb ever been selective about who it kills?

Besides, since Americans seemingly don't care about their next door neighbor enough to help them in time of need,why worry about a total stranger that is a muslim? Kinda of a double standard aint it?

I think part of the reason some folks bring back up Hillary and Obummer is the fact that trump haters don't provide actual data as to what either of them did. They just say Trump is doing nothing and That is annoying.

By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 21:15 other posts of dgraff 
Your a duch bag to you Swiss ass hole
By Arexa at 22,Jul,17 21:27 other posts of Arexa 
Simple geography lesson for you, sir...

By retro57 at 02,Aug,17 07:50 other posts of retro57 
OMG here we go again , another repuklan... give me a break, you know there is a whole lot more than just Fox news, Limbaugh, Federalist to get your info from. Voting against yourself does no one any good. Me, I think the US is in very serious trouble now (and its not just the President), the probability of War is very real now. Think that the 2008 economic disaster, will come back this time and really bite everyone's ass. George Carlin, shortly before his death (in the summer of 0did 10 minute spot called "Dumb Americans", He predicted the events of today so clearly. You are not far from SS, Medicare. Why don't you commit to not taking these democrat programs, send them a letter refusing to take them. It's time to realize you are not in the big club, only Trump and his friends are. The only thing I can say is this Thank God the youth of today is waking up, to folks like you. Ex Navy Vet.
By phart at 02,Aug,17 15:13 other posts of phart 
thanks for your service sir.

a couple problems with that idea of not taking "programs" as you call them.

1, All of us have to PAY INTO social security.Regardless if of what party we are in. It is not a benefit or charity to be exploited,it is money we put into it,along with our employers,that is supposed to draw interest and be paid BACK to us in monthly installments when we reach retirement age. It is not something we get because we are sexy or old. It is something We PAID FOR.
2.What happens to the money folks paid into it that have died and never drew back any of what they paid in? There should be a surplus, not a deficit.

By #536760 at 23,Aug,17 00:34
are you ok ? do you need a hand up? you look uncoferterbule.Retro

By bella! at 15,Jul,17 09:40 other posts of bella! 
JustWill, what "card(s)" are acceptable to play?
By JustWill at 15,Jul,17 15:23 other posts of JustWill 
You can play any "card" that is actually RELEVANT to the point under discussion. Clinton and Obama are not relevant to most discussions about Trump, yet his supporters keep bringing them up like that makes Trump less of a ding-bat.
When I say: "Donald Trump can not put an intelligible sentence together to save his life", and they come back with "But Hillary had e-mails!" they are just deflecting because they can't truly rebut my claim of Presidential Moronitude.
By phart at 15,Jul,17 16:25 other posts of phart 
Trump was the lesser of the 2 evils that was running to be our president. The choice was obvious to anyone with a pulse that could see the mess the previous 1 did and would not want to see it continue.
By #88520 at 15,Jul,17 17:54
What mess? There was strong job growth and the economy started to recover after the disastrous Bush years. only registered users can see external links

He didn't throw you into any useless wars and you regained much of the reputation that was ruined during the Bush years.
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No major scandals during his whole presidency, so am I missing something?
By phart at 15,Jul,17 22:04 other posts of phart 
Well I am sorry I don't have charts to "splain" things.
I just know I had damn good health insurance till that sumbitch screwed it up. I worked for a employer that provided it. As should most people that can. it is not a insurance for the fittest, it is insurance for those that present some effort to help them damn selves instead of being BUMS.
Have you priced obama care? The 3 people i know of that did are still without insurance because his "affordable" health care would cost them almost their entire monthly income.
1100 bucks a month for 1 guy that was able to show 1400 a month income. Now how the hell is that affordable? And it was NOT a problem until Obama came along and made it 1.
Hospitals that take government money can not turn any 1 down for basic medical care. so no one was "suffering" as bad as claimed. Oh they may have had to treat their stumped toe or live with a penis they were born with but still,no one "suffered" as is portrayed in our media at that time.

As for wars,granted, we were in some when he took office. But his LACK of action ,as in finishing the job started, allowed the enemy to grow in strength, Isis as a example.

1 issue I see is some folks like to sit back and look at charts to prove their statement. Others,like myself, have to go out and see reality face to face and learn from what is known as the school of hard knocks. Open your eyes, lift them from your smart phone,stop texting everyone and look around you!
Around me I see friends that had been out of work 3 years or more that are in some segment of home construction are now booked solid for at least 2 years.
I watched 1 neighbor become a multimillionaire about 2 weeks after trump was elected. A large company had put some money down on 4 million dollars worth of land and their lawyer said,"If trump wins, the paperwork is ready to be signed". The company wanted to expand,but had to put their plans on hold in 2010 because of the sagging economy.

1 man I know got a good raise and offers of overtime,a week after Trump won.
Granted I can't put all this in a chart so you can look at it, But I saw it with MY EYES. And can convey it to you.
By #88520 at 16,Jul,17 01:13
You asked for actual data earlier so I provided it. Of course not everyone benefitted, but on a national level more jobs were created, the economy grew and millions more got access to proper healthcare. It might not have helped you personally, but the statistics will show that his presidency was a net benefit for the majority of Americans. If we were to compare anecdotal evidence I'm sure I could find countless of stories from people that lost homes and jobs in the wake of the financial crisis that kicked of during the Bush years.

I can't see any reason to believe that the policies suggested by the republican party would benefit a majority of the American people. I only see a bunch of thinly disguised tax cuts designed to enrich the wealthy and powerful at the cost of normal people. Trump will of course gladly sign anything being sent to his table.
By phart at 16,Jul,17 07:46 other posts of phart 
Well,1 question I would like to ask. How many poor people provide jobs and invest in new technology that can provide jobs?

Is Gm owned by homeless people?

Is Exxon owned by a bunch of bums living in a abandoned rail car?

Did Trump drive his own limo before he became president?
Does the paper boy hire someone to mow his grass?

Nope,all the folks working there are provided jobs and benefits because of the investments made by those "awful" rich people! Cut their throat and it is the beginning of the end.
Poor people work for the richer folks. it is a system that has it's flaws but it would work, if people would work.

By bella! at 15,Jul,17 17:26 other posts of bella! 
You didn't answer my other question, JustWill.

By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 21:17 other posts of dgraff 
Every one likes a little ass but no likes a smart ass
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By JustWill at 18,Jul,17 11:10 other posts of JustWill 
This is not true.
I would much rather hang with a smartass than a dumbass.
By dgraff at 18,Jul,17 19:50 other posts of dgraff 
I wouldent trade one ounce of my common sense or my street smarts for all the degrees in the world
By JustWill at 19,Jul,17 09:07 other posts of JustWill 
I'm not talking about "degrees", I'm talking about INTELLIGENCE. Paper doesn't make you smart. The ability to gather information and come up with a logical, well-reasoned conclusion does.
By dgraff at 19,Jul,17 18:27 other posts of dgraff 
Gather information from were the Internet or the media you don't really believe every thing you see there do you that would be like believing every thing you see on Syd
By phart at 19,Jul,17 19:28 other posts of phart 
Remembe the X Files, "the truth is out there".
Yea, Some damn where,but not on tv or the net.
You can't find the truth.

Intelligence,a strange word to find on a website full of pussys and dicks.
Last election, I gathered information, and came up with the most logical conclusion and acted on it. I voted Trump.

Back to my question, "How many poor people provide jobs ?"
Liberals **** the wealthy so much,but yet forget their paychecks come from somewhere. And I doubt it is the bell boy at the hotel.

By JustWill at 19,Jul,17 20:39 other posts of JustWill 
It's called RESEARCH.

Here's how it works:

When a person has a question about something, they check all the available sources of information on that subject. They examine the pros and cons, check the information against various sources when there is a conflict, and draw a reasoned conclusion from what they have discovered.

Most people these days don't know how to do that. They only rely on sources that agree with their point of view or that tell them what they want to hear.

INTELLECT is about processing information, not regurgitating it.

By the way, to me, people who use the "I'd rather have street-smarts" line always sound like the guy who can't get a date on a Friday night and says: "I don't care. Women are more trouble than they are worth, and I prefer being by myself anyway."
By phart at 19,Jul,17 22:45 other posts of phart 
I am a high school graduate and have a 2 year associate degree as i know a little about how to do research. Learned it along with troubleshooting methods.

Intelligence and education are good things.Even with those 2 assets, if a person does not have the hands on ability,that some call "street Smarts" the knowledge is of no value because it can not be put into practical use. It takes some of both to survive.

By #525562 at 22,Aug,17 23:37
The rabbit may still come your way,

By Andthisisme at 15,Jul,17 05:50 other posts of Andthisisme 
I quite deliberately did not mention Hillary. I was commentiong on certain Twitter behaviours by President Trump.

We have to accept the voice of the people. whether we like it or not, but that does not mean we should be uncritical of any politicians actions.

I just remembered this clip from a satirical show here in the UK, aah the 'good old days'

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By leopoldij at 15,Jul,17 22:24 other posts of leopoldij 
Because, as American psychiatrists have revealed, only registered users can see external links , he's mentally ill.

So the likelihood that he decides to nuke north Korea, say, is much higher than any other (recent) president. If he does that, it's people outside the US that are going to be affected. Even if he doesn't go to thesecextremes, his decisions, affect billions on this planet.

That's why people outside the US care.

By #537944 at 20,Jul,17 04:36
As a guest in this country I get to observe your system. I'm not being critical, but why do you Americans vote for two parties that seemingly do not have your best interest at heart?
By phart at 20,Jul,17 09:10 other posts of phart 
Because we don't have alot of choice,there is 3 rd partys and could be more. But the media is controlled by the main 2 and the others do not get proper coverage or respect.
Of course those party's usually run some body that is so far in outfield from the norm I would be scared of them being in control of a wheel barrow,much less a country.
By mr_blue at 20,Jul,17 09:30 other posts of mr_blue 
It's money,just the size of your country makes it difficult to get started in politics,to get support,to have a message that truly resonates with the majority and is a more rational one than the others..
The money has to come from somewhere,and that's the problem..
How to raise funds that don't tie you to a corporation/lobbying group ?...these people don't give money without that "special friendship" as it know the way it is,most politicians are just in the pockets of these how do you give someone who you could really get behind and believe in a fair go? And not just have to vote for one of two big assholes...
A lot of countries including the UK have the two party problem,and it's not really working for any of us.... it's left v right,and I think people just really want to bang these fucks heads in,and say wtf are you doing to my country?
Most people are stuck in that mindset of "hey,I don't really want to be left or right,I want common sense"...but you can't get that...

By #537944 at 21,Jul,17 02:46
That would all change if a few brave people voted for third party, and placed their money else where. Other wise it seems freedom is just an illusion.

By kebmo at 28,Jul,17 01:00 other posts of kebmo 
I don't think Trump will last another 3.5 years. He'll implode and President Pence will step in. Trump is his own worst enemy.

He still hasn't got a damn thing done in six months. No, he hasn't. The democrats own the House, Senate and the Presidency and nothing has actually been accomplished. Uh, uh, NO! Nothing has been accomplished. Nothing. It must be Hillary Clinton's fault eh?

He's a master manipulator and I think that at the end of the day he sits back and enjoys the mayhem he's created for the day... but wait for tomorrow's tweets, we'll forget about today's and look at the new shiny keys he jingles before our eyes.

To the 49% of eligible voters that didn't vote on November 8th 2016: Now do you understand why you need to vote? If you didn't vote, you can't complain because you didn't do anything about it. Voter apathy is rampant in the entire Western World, so you're not alone in America but here's a great example of what COULD go wrong if you don't exercise your constitutional right to decides who runs your country.

What he does affects me, my family in the lumber industry and the people of Canada. Free Trade.

I can also inform you that President Trump is single handily taking a huge chunk of Canadian tourist dollars out of the hands of Americans. Why should we come to the US when we have so many other options. He keeps making it more and more difficult to do something Canadians have done for generations. Groups of school klds will no longer come either. A group of 12 year olds in the spring had a Muslim student and he was refused entry ONLY because he was Muslim. No other reason. Now any group with a visible minority member (which would be most) will take their dollars elsewhere or more likely just keep them in Canada.

Border gaurds are also regularly asking if we have ever smoked pot!!! Really? EVER? Oh yeah, and here's my cell phone access so you can have a look through it too.

Canadians are America's neighbour, largest trading partner and best friend. We'll make it through this like we've made it through everything in the last couple of hundred years. We've been through worse together.

-A Canadian opinion.

By leopoldij at 17,Aug,17 23:36 other posts of leopoldij 
Because he covfefe, despite the negative pressure.. That's why.

By #534172 at 25,Aug,17 08:46
Oh for God's sake, - even if you're living in the MAGA bubble, understand - most of us in the rest of the world regard Trump as an unmitigated and dangerous fool. He can't exercise control even over his own mouth, despite being surrounded by generals to nurse-maid him, as he disgraces a nation most of us once admired. He is hateful, lying, a-moral, self aggrandising, sexist, racist and relates only to his own whining self pity. He is overseeing the final decline of American world leadership in his ignorance and divisive stupidity. Let's face it, most of his own party congressional members only continue to put up with him out of their own greedy self interest and fear that they will lose out if his precious 'base' of ignorant fools is offended. Meantime, his bullying attempts to thwart the fact that North Korea, led by another of his ilk is now, , like it or not, a nuke-armed state present the world with the possibility of world wide nuclear war. Trump represents nothing but his own moral vacuity. His supporters represent nothing butignorance, a-morality and occasionally wilful stupidity. Trump will attack and attempt to degrade anyone who does not reach his own bottom dwelling scum feeding level. Until he is impeached or resigns, the alternative is Pence. Hooray shit... I'd let you know what I really think but... LOL
By JustWill at 25,Aug,17 12:51 other posts of JustWill 
As an American, let me be the first to say: I couldn't have said it better.
The truth is, the majority of us in the States hold the same view as you do. Sad.

By #525562 at 28,Aug,17 18:14
I may be wrong here but Trump is like a bull in a "group" china shop where all the china is cracked and broken but held together by scotch tape and the "group" receives commission from everyone(taxpayers) who look at it from the outside on the internet,sidewalk,dirt street or farming field. Trump is not the answer because he is self serving and that is not different from other politicians who serve their own interest and not their constituents,they are just more discrete. I may be wrong and you are free to disagree.

By leopoldij at 20,Aug,17 20:12 other posts of leopoldij 
Jerry Lewis: US comedian dies aged 91 in Las Vegas
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RIP Jerry!
By _avg_ at 26,Aug,17 02:51 other posts of _avg_ 
If Jerry Lewis hadn't died this weekend, we'd have been talking about Dick Gregory -- a comedian worth recognition and remembrance no less than Lewis, who died not 24hrs earlier.

Times like this I'm always reminded of that George Bernard Shaw quote: "Life does not cease to be funny when people die any more than it ceases to be serious when people laugh."
By phart at 27,Aug,17 15:57 other posts of phart 
This guy? I had to google him as I had never heard of him.

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As for Lewis, no more telethon's.
By dgraff at 27,Aug,17 20:24 other posts of dgraff 
Oh yeah there all a bunch of Google boys it would be interesting to see what would happen if Google would shut down for a week OMG what would the know it alls talk about then
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I'm really surprise Alex blow and gay school teacher just will didn't chime in
By bella! at 27,Aug,17 21:08 other posts of bella! 
C'mon, dgraff, why the names? I thought you were going to be the "bigger man"?
By JustWill at 28,Aug,17 12:07 other posts of JustWill 
Where is this gay school, and what subjects do they teach there?

By bella! at 27,Aug,17 21:12 other posts of bella! 
Jerry Lewis hasn't hosted a Labor Day MDA telethon for a number of years.

By dgraff at 26,Aug,17 20:53 other posts of dgraff 
How can the rest of the world let north veitnam get away with launching short range missiles this is a danger to all the US stomped them once with out any help back in the late 60s and I hope we do it again this time there must be no survivor's
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Yes I mean north Korea
By cody8789 at 26,Aug,17 22:20 other posts of cody8789 
I don't think n. Vietnam has missiles.
By CountryCouple54 at 26,Aug,17 22:28 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Did you mean North Korea.
By #536760 at 26,Aug,17 22:32
Lol. How can the rest of the world let north veitnam get away with launching short range missiles this is a danger to all the US stomped them once with out any help back in the late 60s (WHAT?)
This makes no sense on any level.
By leopoldij at 27,Aug,17 00:27 other posts of leopoldij 
I can't make sense of the sentence either.

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By dgraff at 27,Aug,17 06:26 other posts of dgraff 
Just as I thought same old know it alls buzzing around here don't you people drink never got drunk and fucked up I do it all the time
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Regardless of who they are they still should be stomped before this gets out of hand
By phart at 27,Aug,17 15:47 other posts of phart 
Well for starters,The war with NK never was won or lost,it was just Stopped. I can't think of the fancy word,starts with a A. Anyhow, no one has kept watch on them and when we found out they had a nuclear program that pansy ass Hussein didn't do anything when he was in office to slow down the little fat guy. So now he is terrorizing the world with his missiles.

He as in the little fat guy in NK ,is committing a act of terrorism same as ISIS or anyone else with evil intent and should be treated as such. Blow him to hades.

By #536760 at 28,Aug,17 04:50
Lol No offence, you fucked up in between my fucking up. (Different time zones)
By dgraff at 28,Aug,17 05:30 other posts of dgraff 
None taken and I'm sorry I get a little snappy some times

By mr_blue at 25,Aug,17 05:39 other posts of mr_blue 
Anyone watching the Mayweather v McGregor fight ?
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Badou Jack fucked up Nathan Cleverly on the maymac undercard..

By Arexa at 15,Aug,17 20:34 other posts of Arexa 
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By #536760 at 16,Aug,17 00:40
Lol That would wake you up in the morning.

By leopoldij at 17,Aug,17 23:34 other posts of leopoldij 
Your world views are very shaky.

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By leopoldij at 27,Jul,17 03:07 other posts of leopoldij 
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President Donald Trump announced Wednesday that he plans to reinstate a ban on transgender individuals from serving "in any capacity" in the US armed forces.

Why do you think he does that?
By CharlieB at 27,Jul,17 03:23 other posts of CharlieB 
Sounds like his attempt to distract from other things he's doing that people don't like.
By leopoldij at 27,Jul,17 03:37 other posts of leopoldij 
But this is very myopic.

By _avg_ at 27,Jul,17 04:21 other posts of _avg_ 
Who can know the mind of this president but this president?

I've read a report however that this move was a precondition for the support of certain legislators on funding for the long-proposed "border wall", as part of a funding bill coming to vote soon...

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By leopoldij at 27,Jul,17 08:59 other posts of leopoldij 
"Who can know the mind of this president but this president? "

Do you REALLY think so? Do you really think that HE knows his mind? I don't think so.

By phart at 27,Jul,17 22:16 other posts of phart 
From what I can tell from my reading it has to do with the expense. I think the folks join and then expect the military to pay for their transitions is what it boils down to.
That is expensive surgery. Not necessary for the person to serve as a solider so it is not the military's or taxpayers burden to bare. Kinda blunt but seems to be 1 of the issues.
By JustWill at 27,Jul,17 22:22 other posts of JustWill 
The cost is around 2.8 million per year over all.
About equal to the cost of one month's worth of trips for Trump to Florida.
Also, the military spends about 35 million a year on Viagra.
By leopoldij at 28,Jul,17 02:52 other posts of leopoldij 
Ha ha. Viagra? Why?
By JustWill at 28,Jul,17 08:14 other posts of JustWill 
Because old, limp guys in the military want boners, too.
By phart at 28,Jul,17 10:13 other posts of phart 
Well if they are spending that on the blue pill someone needs to nip that shit.If a woman don't turn you on enough to get hard, you don't a hard on.
A hard dick does nothing to help win a war or protect a country.Once you sign up for the military that is your job,fucking can wait till you go home.
By _avg_ at 29,Jul,17 03:11 other posts of _avg_ 
Unlike most citizens of the internet and too few Americans, more generally, I decided I needed to look further into Will's claim so that I can construct a critically informed response to it, and to you.

Like I suspected, the claim was false: the military does not spend 36mil/yr on Viagra.

It spent 41.6mil on Viagra, ALONE, and 84mil on ED treatments altogether in 2014, according to the DOD-commissioned study, as reported by this and other sources:

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Contrary to whatever you said in the self-righteous word-vomit you spewed up there (and Poe's Law aside), less than 10% of that was for active duty members, in part because PTSD can cause or exacerbate ED and in part because ED medications can be prescribed to treat hypertension and other conditions (though it IS primarily for ED).

Frankly, I personally don't begrudge the military wanting to ensure that their men -- men who are willing to sacrifice years of their lives, or indeed that very life itself, in service to this great country and its values -- will always have a working rifle. (Pardon the metaphor)

That is even easier to condone when put into the perspective of the total military spending allowance in excess of 500 BILLION dollars in 2014:

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...meaning that less than .16% of the annual military budget went to assisting the quality of our current and former servicemen's sex lives.

Now, I'm a callous asshole by just about any measure. And I fully endorse reigning in the purse-strings on excessive government expenditure, wherever it's due. But even *I* am not willing to go after the boners of the men fighting for my freedoms...
By phart at 29,Jul,17 08:44 other posts of phart 
Wow that is alot of money. But if the Ed problem is linked to their service then it is a sense able thing. Diarys and records indicate even back to the civil war about what is now called PTSD.It is just now being understood and treated.
When I said that above I was under the impression that the 36 million was being spent on active members for the blue pill, which again,during the time they are active military, don't need the distraction during their service of a hardon.

By _avg_ at 29,Jul,17 02:36 other posts of _avg_ 
Every soldier needs a functional rifle...

By #88520 at 28,Jul,17 01:14
It's ridiculous to blame it on costs in a military that gladly wastes millions of dollar in any other area. It's all about removing rights for people that they consider weird and don't conform to their old conservative view of the world. Same with the stupid bathroom bills, just make up any reason to make life more difficult for those that are different.
By leopoldij at 28,Jul,17 02:52 other posts of leopoldij 
That's a more reasonable explanation.

By Andthisisme at 28,Jul,17 10:51 other posts of Andthisisme 
I tend to agree with avg. This could be something he has discussed aor agreed with the conservative/ religious right. There are some very conservative sections of the US population who are against abortion, gay rights, gun control etc and being anti transgender fits with that.

By #435701 at 01,Aug,17 15:28
Weeeellllll...Ifn he be smart nuff, cud bee ta destract us citizens ta wat he rilly bee up ta...ceptin' he be a big DUMBASS, that be athinkin he be smrt, evin tho he be bout dum as they cum...He is doing this because he is totally incapable of seeing ANYTHING from another human's viewpoint. Or even that there are any other humans besides himself. A major factor in the World today and it's totally FUCKED UP situation...And...he is scared of any sexual differences. Just like LOTS of people on this planet full of 7.5 Billion humans...the Donald is truly seriously BENT. Dangerously BENT. And we are all @ his, Pooter's, Kim yung un's and many other 'leaders' mercy because of their own individual warped perspectives on life...and lots of those perspectives stem from sex and their fears of it. Makes men act extremely macho (pooter for instance) so that no one will know their innermost sexual feelings. GAY fantasies, etc.?...I used to think money made the World go round (it does) but now think sex is much more a driving ****. Just because everyone has so many secrets about their own sexuality.

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This is just so STUPID!...missing word is f o r c e. Censorship at it's BEST!
By leopoldij at 01,Aug,17 17:31 other posts of leopoldij 
You're right: sex makes the world go round. I've seen people who climb up to positions of power only to be able to fuck anyone they want from a position of power. And we see them go down, once in a while, very rarely in fact, once they're caught. Take, for example, the previous head of the IMF, Straus-Kahn, he could fuck anyone he liked (and he did) and he chose to fuck a hotel maid. It was, perhaps, set up, but this was his end. Repressed sexuality at young age leads to this kind of behaviour. I've personally met people like him.

By leopoldij at 31,Jul,17 17:51 other posts of leopoldij 
Meanwhile, the Swedes have fucked up data security:
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Almost all citizens' personal data has been leaked.

Why? Incompetence and greed. Selling public assets to companies, IBM was involved , the Czech republic, Serbia, etc. A total mess.

Sweden leaked confidential data to IBM in outsourcing deal.
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So what do you make of it?
By phart at 31,Jul,17 19:45 other posts of phart 
well the people thought they could trust the government with the info and now that they have found out they can't,the same government is telling "it is ok,don't worry" .
sounds like a damn big mess brewing.

You honestly have to consider terrorist have infiltrated company's like IBM and it is possible they saw info, copied it to a stick and took it home. Hell if nothing else write down names and such with a ink pen so the computer has no idea the data was moved around.
By leopoldij at 01,Aug,17 13:05 other posts of leopoldij 
You're right. This is what happened.

By leopoldij at 28,Jul,17 03:05 other posts of leopoldij 
I think I posted this before but maybe I failed due to internet connection problems. Anyway, if I'm double-posting I apologize in advance.

I was pointing out that the New Speak by the US government has reached new heights. Here we go (exact quotes):

What I want to do is I want to fucking kill all the leaders.

So they're going to have to go fuck themselves.

Reince is a fucking paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac. 'Oh, Bill Shine is coming in. Let me leak the fucking thing and see if I can cock-block these people the way I cock-blocked Scaramucci for six months.'

I've gotta start tweeting some shit.

I'm not trying to suck my own cock.


What do you think? Should they speak like that?

If yes, should we give them an honorary free, not anonymous, account on ShowYourDick?
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CNN had to give a warning when posting the story (of the speech of one of the government people):

WARNING: This story contains graphic language.
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By #435701 at 31,Jul,17 13:17
The MOOCH has gone power hungry. As in TOTALLY FUCKING MAD power hungry. As has his owner, the Donald. Sure the Moochie would suck the big A$$ holes cock if asked...get ready for a ride none of us will EVER forget! If you thought the 1st 6 months were something...just wait for the 2nd act! And having people in BIG power acting just like the internet trolls that slither hither and nither thru the electronic matrix of all of our lives is just dangerous as all hell...
By leopoldij at 31,Jul,17 17:46 other posts of leopoldij 
And he was fired. Because he said "fucking" too many times. Trump uses these words too ("I'll grab her by the pussy") a bit less frequently.

By #88520 at 31,Jul,17 15:18
Hahaha hired for one week and he's already managed to get himself fired and divorced.

Trump only hires the best people!!
By leopoldij at 31,Jul,17 17:44 other posts of leopoldij 
That's right. This US administration is full of clowns.

By mobiusdick at 30,Jul,17 05:17 other posts of mobiusdick 
Watching Trump speak on the news zaps my will to live. I become nauseous looking at his face. Over the next three and a half years, having to see him everyday I will slowly starve to death. At least then I will be free of him.

By Arexa at 29,Jul,17 00:30 other posts of Arexa 
This is totally my favorite video at the moment. 🐠
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By _avg_ at 29,Jul,17 02:13 other posts of _avg_ 
The first 2-1/2hrs were pretty good, but the last 90min totally failed to deliver on the expectations they set up...

By #537944 at 29,Jul,17 04:31
That's 30 seconds of my life I'll never get back.
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Ups. A wrong topic.

By leopoldij at 28,Jul,17 00:34 other posts of leopoldij 
Here's the new way to speak if you have a high up position in the US government:

I've gotta start tweeting some shit.

 I'm not trying to suck my own cock.

Reince is a fucking paranoid schizophrenic, a paranoiac. 'Oh, Bill Shine is coming in. Let me leak the fucking thing and see if I can cock-block these people the way I cock-blocked Scaramucci for six months.'

So they're going to have to go fuck themselves.

What I want to do is I want to fucking kill all the leaders.

Ha ha. These guys are ridiculous.
Or, maybe, they should be given accounts in SYD. Free ones. And not anonymous.

By #88520 at 27,Jul,17 18:54
Haha this Scaramucci guy is hilarious. Comms director for less than a week and he's already in the media calling colleagues paranoid schizophrenics or accusing them of trying to suck their own cocks. Also managed to threaten to send FBI on people for "leaking" a document that was already for public disclosure. What is going on?

By Arexa at 20,Jul,17 16:58 other posts of Arexa 
Chester Bennington committed suicide. So sad!
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By #511804 at 20,Jul,17 21:06
Whats with the noted people taking themselves away from the world, very sad. only 41, makes one ponder, why?

On a lighter note, Alex we will be in London for a few days in London next to Hyde Park. If you know the area and can suggest a few places you like to eat, that are affordable. Such as a lunch type place.
If you have a favorite fine dining place in the area let me know.

By JustWill at 19,Jul,17 09:15 other posts of JustWill 
More evidence that Donald Trump is an IDIOT:
The guy is ass-deep in the so-called "witch hunt" (propagated, of course, by "fake news") of the Russian Collusion scandal. So, he has a s3cret meeting with Putin--which lasts for over an hour and is only between Trump, Putin,and a Russian interpreter (no other US official or interpreter is present and there is no record of what was discussed).
How does behavior like that NOT look suspicious?
The guy is like an accused p3dophile who denies the charges but keeps hanging around kindergarten pl@ygrounds!
By Andthisisme at 19,Jul,17 10:25 other posts of Andthisisme 
There is the old adage that many percieved conspiracies are actually cock-ups. The reality is that in President Trump the US has a businessman accustomed to behaving in the way that businessmen do and he has not yet learnt that what is acceptable in business will not pass muster in politics.
I love the closing analogy by the way.
By JustWill at 19,Jul,17 10:31 other posts of JustWill 
Businessman or not, an intelligent person would understand that he is stepping on his own balls every time he does things like this Putin meeting.
I ask you: How is a skeevy and slimy "businessman" any different than a politician? Same kind of reptile, but from a different "swamp".
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As to the potential of the Russian thing being a "cock-up", I would buy that if there was only one thread to follow. They keep finding more ties--and more lies--as time goes on. A string of "cock-ups" starts to look like intentional subterfuge and cover-up after a while.
By Andthisisme at 19,Jul,17 11:02 other posts of Andthisisme 
I made the businessman point because by and large what they get up to is out of sight,(we have businessmen over here as bent as corkscrews but the shady deals and actions are seldom revealed.), they are not subject to public scrutiny like politicians.
However, as you say, after a number of 'cock-ups', you do start to ask the question.

By CountryCouple54 at 18,Jul,17 12:54 other posts of CountryCouple54 
This conversation could go on for months..... I hear you all saying the things Obama didn't do. He wasn't in any scandals, he didn't start any unnecessary wars, he didn't do this and he didn't do that. Can someone tell me what exactly Obama did for the US. Cause in my eyes he did more for foreign countries than he ever did for the US. And has anyone thought that that reason by itself is why so many Americans had had enough, and for that same reason is why so many non Americans support him. Hell it was like we had a US president that spent more time, more energy, more resources, too fix other nations and he forgot about his own country. If he would have dedicated more time as a US president and less time trying to be a world leader, it might have turned out different. There is a reason Obama is liked outside the US. And there is a reason he is hated in the US. Just saying.
By mr_blue at 18,Jul,17 17:39 other posts of mr_blue 
If you don't know why Obama worried about other countries,more fool you...dude caught bin Laden, but people don't believe it,he helped implement a financial stimulus plan,that without it your country would still be in a recession/depression,motor industry bailouts that the GOP didn't want to carry out, Obama fought job growth under him counts for shit,so yeah he didn't do shit except help recover one of the worst financial downturns in history,that some of Trump's current administration were responsible for,cuz of deregulation,he fought for consumers rights too....they all benefitted America....

Trump is gonna rip it all up,when you can go back to irresponsible lending, consumers getting fucked ,America will be great again,of course Obama fucked up with healthcare,but what do you expect from an industry that put profits before people...

That's my dumb fucking British view....

By phart at 18,Jul,17 19:07 other posts of phart 
Obama caught bin laden.

Yea right. He takes the credit,but did nothing but that.

The military and intelligence community found the bastard and got him and supposedly tossed his ass in the ocean. But we as Americans have no real proof of that.

I feel like the bastard is still alive because how else would we have escaped another major attack? Because he is sitting back somewhere in Wyoming or other scarcely populated area drinking a cool 1 telling folks info to save his sorry ass..
By CountryCouple54 at 18,Jul,17 20:41 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Again Alex your bringing up the good things. What about the shit that we as Americans seen going on here. Bin Laden was found when we wanted him found. That war raged on so we could take their oil. 911 was not carried out by terrorist. We planned that shit and blamed Bin Laden knowing he would take the credit. Obama new what was going on. And as far as the motor industry. Fuck em. Because a bunch of crooked degenerates ran Chrysler and Chevrolet in the ground we had to bail them out. Ford kept on rolling. Now every Chevrolet commercial you see on US television talks about how they are the best selling most awarded car company in America. Have they paid back any of that bailout money yet? The union auto workers would have been employed elsewhere. That's what unions do. And if not, they would have went on unemployment and received more money and benefits from Obama anyways.
By mr_blue at 19,Jul,17 01:23 other posts of mr_blue 
Tell me the bad stuff then,cuz all I'm hearing is complaints about that I'm talking about the good things....
And Google GM bailout repayments... Forbes and Bloomberg did a good review on it...
I'll agree the war was about oil,but I'm not convinced by conspiracy regarding 9/11...
And unions are not likely to find jobs where there are they would have no choice but to live of what savings they have before ending up on unemployment..
I know you care about your country,it so clear to anyone,but help me out a little..

By mr_blue at 19,Jul,17 00:16 other posts of mr_blue 
You need to do some reading instead of listening to conspiracy theories!!!!you know why bin Laden was buried at sea ?so he wasn't made a martyr by having a burial site for his know to stop people wanting to be like bin Laden and copy him!!!!!and it was a middle finger to Muslims too cuz Sharia law states you need to be buried in the ground....
So actually Obama mocked bin Laden by burying him at sea.
I learnt that from a Muslim...
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When I say Obama caught bin Laden you knew what I meant...Obama was the guy in charge at the time,isn't Potus commander in chief ?

By dgraff at 18,Jul,17 20:30 other posts of dgraff 
Who paid for that bail out the tax payers that's who if general motors and chrysler couldn't run there business then let them fall on there face ford didn't ask for a hand out
By phart at 18,Jul,17 22:49 other posts of phart 
There was a couple foreign company's ready to buy GM and Chrysler and the gov would not allow it. Ford didn't ask for a bail out because they cut retirement benefits and insurance coverage ,stock dividends and other things that basically made it such the employee's and stock holders bailed themselves out.
By mr_blue at 19,Jul,17 00:23 other posts of mr_blue 
So America first is ok for trump but not ok for Obama ?
Wow....and it was Bush who instigated the bailout, Obama took a bit too much credit for it..

By dgraff at 19,Jul,17 05:59 other posts of dgraff 
And let's give some credit to ford for the way they handled there cuts they started at the top were the big spending was and all the cuts were discussed amoung the workers and we're voluntary till they were out of the red Gm and chrysler could have done the very same thing

By mr_blue at 19,Jul,17 00:18 other posts of mr_blue 
So fuck all the people that had invested in them right, remember what I said to you about how your investments are at the mercy of others ?
By dgraff at 19,Jul,17 05:50 other posts of dgraff 
I watch them every day once a wise man told me if you watch the penny's the dollars will watch them selves

By dgraff at 16,Jul,17 21:24 other posts of dgraff 
Alex blue has me in the mood for a fight any takers come one come all the old dgraff is coming out
By mr_blue at 16,Jul,17 22:37 other posts of mr_blue 
All this cuz you can't handle an opinion....too funny...
By phart at 17,Jul,17 10:02 other posts of phart 
Most Americans can handle opinions, it is the liberal minded 1's that can't handle 1 that goes against their thinking best I can tell.

But all in all, that is part of being a American. We are free to disagree, we are free to discuss it and vote for our leaders. Some country's don't have that option .

As for obama being someone from the sand, I wouldn't discredit the folks that live on the sand by saying he came from there. I think he is the worst leader we ever had and history will eventually blow the cover and prove it .
By mr_blue at 17,Jul,17 10:54 other posts of mr_blue 
Why is Obama so bad ?no one is telling me why he is so bad!!!
And Phart, you're using a site comprising of mostly gay you are a liberal minded person....
Look inwards to yourself then look at what you say!...liberal minded people want a fair society?what is wrong with that?
No one here has said why Obama was so bad ? Just call him names and say he was the worst president...
That's not productive,you want to help your country,learn from the mistakes of others...
It's funny how people are republicans but they're own lifestyle would be disowned by the GOP,...
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You need to say why Obama is so bad,not just keep repeating he was bad...

And the sand comment shows why you dislike Obama,so yeah,try and hide your true feelings...
By CountryCouple54 at 17,Jul,17 11:53 other posts of CountryCouple54 
@ Alex. There is always good with the bad with any President we have. That includes Trump. Obama was no different. His Obamacare had loopholes as any plan would have. He made people carry insurance they couldn't afford in the first place. Then penalizing then on their tax return. Again which they could not afford. But he was quick to extend those same people's welfare and unemployment checks. He was quick to give those same people free phones and food stamps. He allowed immigration to get out of control. He open the borders with communist Cuba. Allowing the Castro family, the cruise lines, the hotel franchises to get richer while the people of Cuba got nothing. Some retirees in Cuba collect $17 a month for social security. The people of Cuba got nothing from that deal. Then of course there is the war. Extending soilders deployments well after they should have been going home. Extending a war ( not started by him ) that should have and could have ended sooner. But these are things that will always be with any leader. This country is not led by a president. But by coward pussy lawyers, judges, and politicians. That continually Pussify America. So there are some that have a little hope that Trump might take a stand against these guys whether good or bad.
By mr_blue at 17,Jul,17 13:34 other posts of mr_blue 
See that's all I need,some clarity on on how you see things, the why,I don't live in the US,all I'm trying to do is gain some perspective of US policies and how they affect you...
And it's Congress that makes the rules,they have to pass the bills,and they are all assholes,cuz none of them represent the people anymore,they just argue for arguments sake,so yeah Obama was president,but he didn't pass the bills by himself,the Potus is a figurehead who wants to take the nation a certain way,they cannot do anything without Congress....
Yes Obama made mistakes regarding the wars,Syria etc....and I don't think the sun shines out of his butt..
How do you deal with such a fucking mess? Obama put his focus on getting Obamacare passed over everything else,I think in hindsight he fucked up there,..
Don't think I'm sitting here like the UK isn't fucked up too,cuz it is,..our politicians are assholes too,same thing,they just argue for arguments sake with the same rhetoric from yesteryear....our politicians fucked the system a while back with their expenses claims,have a look at that,and you'll see how much a bunch of assholes UK politicians are...
By CountryCouple54 at 17,Jul,17 14:13 other posts of CountryCouple54 
Just a little from here in Florida. We have had Democrats for US representatives for about 6 years now. One in particular, a woman named Debbie Waserman-Shults. She while on her campaign trail would stop and talk to the union workers. Vote Democrat we are for the unions. Soon as she was elected to Congress, she was one of the first to vote for cutting jobs, pay, and pensions of school teachers, firefighters, police, and nurses. She bet her whole campaign on union workers and then stuck it right up our asses passing Obama's cuts. In Florida it is now very difficult to get home and car insurance. Florida is the leader in the US for fraudulent claims. Auto insurance is sky high here from theft and fraud. Well it's not the working class that's filing these false claims and stealing cars. It's the scumbags that refuse to get a job cause they can live off of the system. They get unemployment checks, welfare checks, food stamps, the women get WIC checks as that amount is greater depending on how many k ids they shit out, free cell phones, and etc...... Most people scamming this system receive more than they would if they had a real job. So why the fuck would they even look for a job. But Obama continued to work for the low class unemployed people and continued to take from the working class. Here is an example...... Between my wife and I we paid about $25,000 US dollars into taxes last year. When we did our taxes we owed the government $350 US dollars. We owed them money instead of receiving money in return. Some of that had to do with these multiple programs to help the unemployed. Shit someone had to pay for all those cell phones. Again, this was not all on Obama. It's the Ass Monkeys in Congress passing this shit as they pick and choose which law will benefit their own private companies and investments. And that is the reason Trump won this election. It had nothing to do with Hilary. It was the middle class working people tired of the Democrats and continually getting shit on.
By Andthisisme at 17,Jul,17 15:51 other posts of Andthisisme 
Your position is one that is gaining traction in other countries too. Good working people see others on benefits, some worthy some maybe not receiving more than they do for working.

At the other end of the spectrum they see the wealthy doing very nicely thank you from low interest rates and high pay packages.

Not everything these good working people believe is actually true but they no longer trust the 'old order' and want change, in some cases any change is seen as an improvement.

Not long ago our Labour party leader would have been unelectable but after suffering cuts and pay limits at the hands of the establishment parties some of the British working and middle classes see him and his policies as better than what we have at present.

'Western' politics is changing and where did this start? With the massive greed of the bankers and such who led us over the cliff to the 'financial crash' that ordinary folks - yes ordinary folk - are still paying for nearly 10 years later.

It is no wonder voters are prepared to try anything to make their lot better.

By phart at 17,Jul,17 18:07 other posts of phart 
BOy there was a lot of typing while I was doing this post,this is referring back to alex's post way up the hill.

The comeing from the sand is not why I dislike O man. In America if you utilize the system as it is designed you can be educated and work your way to any position in the country,including President. Had Condoleezza Rice ran for president I would have voted for her.Much more qualified than most that have run and she is both a woman and black. Not half black like O man. O man's education cost 1000's but no one can explain where the money came from.Nor can they find but 1 or 2 classmates. No women he dated while in college have spoke up. No one can explain his trips abroad. All things a person coming up poor should not be able to do without help.And it is the possibility that the help came from sources not to the country's best interest that bothers alot of Americans. . It would seem those things and others would prompt anyone to be suspicious. But those few things should be enough to keep you googling trying to prove me wrong.

We all know he stirred up the health care soup pot and left it on the stove to boil over and be ruined. His policy's also made disability requirements stricter which has caused a friend of mine with cancer and brain damage due to chemo to loose hers

A fair society is great in theory but not everyone can be a millionaire.
By mr_blue at 17,Jul,17 21:02 other posts of mr_blue 
So you're bothered by him being mixed race,and being able to find his way through an education system that benefits rich people and not the trying to say you would vote for Rice doesn't pass the smell test...
Why does Obama need to prove how he paid for his education ?
Or how he went abroad!!!if there was shit on him,people would have found it by now.... Especially fox news....
By phart at 17,Jul,17 23:43 other posts of phart 
You mean to tell me it is ok to have someone in the highest position in the country and not even know who paid for his education? Or if it is even REAL?,read that as, show us a diploma, show us a class reunion pic, show us something concrete that you even went to college. Most folks are proud enough of the fact they went to college they all but flaunt it.
Why did he hide a birth certificate? why would you hide proof you are qualified? I know, trump gave up on the issue to try and get the country moving forward instead of backward but the libs just found something else to play in.

The point of all that being, if he is so comfortable hiding all that, what else is he hiding?,

What smell test? I aint trying to pass a test, I just said I would have voted for a black woman that was qualified for the job. The black part of O man does not bother me. It is his hidden,sealed past and his policy's such as health care that I don't like.

Fox news couldn't pour piss out of a boot with the directions wrote on the sole.
They are just a more conservative version of CNN. Bullshit machines. The truth is available from neither.

The prez is kinda like a goat herder. He guides things along. He says for example at a state of the union address," we are going to plant trees in the Grand Canyon." Later congress will appropriate 35.8 million dollars to study the feasibility of planting trees in the Grand canyon and then another 48 million to do a survey on which trees would survive the longest and then the next congress would kill the measure and then the next prez would say at the next state of the union address " We are going to fill in the Grand canyon and build a university on the land." And then on with the surveys and studies.
So he does play a part in things. I know those were ridicules examples but i was just trying to explain it.

By bella! at 17,Jul,17 20:58 other posts of bella! 
@ alexblue, from an outsider's standpoint, what makes you believe that Obama was outstanding POTUS?
By mr_blue at 17,Jul,17 21:45 other posts of mr_blue 
I don't think he was an outstanding Potus, that seems to get lost,cuz everyone just sees me as bashing trump, I've been trying to show people that its Congress who fuck you over and not the Potus,that goes for trump too.... Obama was a stooge for wall Street too, it's your politicians that fuck the system for their own benefit, both sides,how many days do they work on capitol hill ?...less than 150 I the can you make real changes to America if they only work half the year ?they used to have a mandatory summer break with pay too.... don't know if they still have the paid summer break but you get what I mean I hope,... The politicians make the mess cuz they are so far removed from the life of a an average working person....but they keep all the good benefits for themselves... that's the same for most government too,in the UK we call it a gravy train,where the politicians get pay rises whilst the rest get fucked... most of these politicians exploit the system to benefit their corporate friends and themselves...when they all go for lunch the taxpayer gets fucked....(expenses)
The state v federal government issue has it's own quirks,and that's something I've learnt from talking to American people here,how one state implemented a law compared to another...

On Obama,he did a few things, one which he took too much credit for even though the plan was already made,motor industry bailout(general motors)and the financial stimulus plan......he messed up having Clinton in his administration,I can't forgive him for that one,personally I think Obama got shafted by her being around...
She's too tainted by wall Street money,Clinton Foundation etc...

By #88520 at 13,Jul,17 18:24
"As horrible as this sounds, they throw large sacks of drugs over, and if you have people on the other side of the wall, you don't see them-and they hit you on the head with 60 pounds of that stuff. As cray as that sounds, you need transparency through that wall."

President of the United States explaining to the press why a wall against Mexico would have to be transparent.

When will this clown show end
By dgraff at 13,Jul,17 19:09 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha they can hit me in the head with 60 lbs of coccain any day as long as I can keep it
By phart at 13,Jul,17 22:40 other posts of phart 
Transparent my ass. Solid.
The mexican government needs to be arresting the assholes on their side of the wall and the US needs to be arresting the assholes on our side. Equals a small dent in the **** problem.

By JustWill at 14,Jul,17 09:20 other posts of JustWill 
"They have these little ray guns, that they shoot you with, which make you forget. So you people who think you've never seen a UFO probably see them all the time--you just don't remember it."~~ Father Guido Sarducci.

By Andthisisme at 14,Jul,17 09:55 other posts of Andthisisme 
If the current POTUS and his behaviours had been pitched as a TV show it would have rejected as totally absurd and unbelieveable.

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By leopoldij at 08,Jul,17 11:02 other posts of leopoldij 
But she shook his wife's hand. That's embarrassing too.

By _avg_ at 09,Jul,17 00:57 other posts of _avg_ 
No, no, FUCKING NO. This is bullshit propaganda and it HAS TO STOP.

I am galled and shamed by Trump as much as -- no MORESO than -- the next citizen, but this is truly "fake news" in it's most goddamned blatant, shameful form.

Here's the full SEVEN SECONDS that certain 'news sources' (in deliberate scare quotes) can't seemingly be assed to show in deference of their bullshit, eyeball-grabbing, profit-driven click-bait agenda: only registered users can see external links

Trump is an idiot and was rightly marginalized and ostracized by the leaders of other, more sensibly minded nations, but SPREADING LIES is the absolute.wrong.fucking.way. of dealing with this presidency. Do not engage in deceit; you'll be dragged down to his level and be beaten by experience.
By Andthisisme at 12,Jul,17 17:22 other posts of Andthisisme 
President Trump's behaviour, tweets and statements speak for themselves. I don't swallow the fake news message that he trys to use against the media but the media should try to avoid nonsense like this.

By allin4oral at 12,Jul,17 14:48 other posts of allin4oral 
the point here is that the Polish Pres went to the trouble of shaking the 1st lady's hand 1st and then the Pres's hand. She was definitely making a point.
By _avg_ at 12,Jul,17 22:11 other posts of _avg_ 
Poland's president is Andrzej Duda, and definitely not a woman. And it's pretty customary for the spouses to greet one another, while the presidents are shaking hands -- which is exactly what happened.

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And the point here is that this clip (and specifically the clips which edit out the full exchange) is a distortion purporting to show the Polish 1st Lady "disrespecting Trump"...which is just an outright fabrication.

This kind of bullshit needs to be called out for what it is. Perhaps then we can actually get to rational discussions of real grievances and issues.
By mr_blue at 13,Jul,17 08:05 other posts of mr_blue 
So many media outlets don't care about the news they report,as you say, it's clickbait to generate profit.. there's so many things that are "dubious" with Trump's administration and those things get hidden under a swathe of Trump tweets and the reaction to those tweets,that's lazy journalism....
I mean,by now we know Trump cannot change his personality,or that he tweets outrageous claims without evidence,waiting for Trump to act presidential is not gonna happen,so why is it so hard to actually report what his administration is doing..
By phart at 13,Jul,17 22:37 other posts of phart 
Good or bad, it would be nice to hear what actually happens that is important to the country from our media. There are times when the truth hurts. Most of time not us,but sometimes it beans us right on the head. regardless,it is better to know the truth and learn from it.

Tweets, take that dam phone away from him. Maby he will have more time to do his work.

By JeffinKS at 13,Jul,17 00:29 other posts of JeffinKS 
(CNN)A series of new laws passed in Michigan strengthen penalties for female genital mutilation practices in the state. Performing FGM or transporting another person in the state for the purpose of undergoing FGM will be punishable by up to 15 years in prison, 10 years more than the federal penalty for the crime.
The new legislation comes only a few months after the state became the backdrop for the first federal case involving FGM in the United States. Six people were charged for either committing or assisting in performing female genital mutilation on two 7-year-old girls, who were brought into Michigan from Minnesota. FGM is **** in the United States for girls under 18 and is punishable by up to five years in prison, according to national law.
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but what about the baby boys?? we can still carve them up at will? how is this fair? they call it Female Genital Mutilation... but we cant call male circumcision mutilation??
By Andthisisme at 13,Jul,17 06:17 other posts of Andthisisme 
I take your point and I am with you on circumcision but there is a significant difference between FGM and circumcision.

With circumcision the foreskin is removed which as far as I am aware does not really impact upon the persons ability to enjoy sexual arousal/activity.

With FGM a wide range of things happen depending upon the specific culture involved " removal of the clitoral hood and clitoral glans; removal of the inner labia; and removal of the inner and outer labia and closure of the vulva. This last procedure is known as infibulation." All of which are totally unnecessary and do in some cases reduce the ability to enjoy sexual arousal. Of course all of this happens in traditinally very male dominated societies.

I see no cause for circumcision and would never allow a son of mine to be circumcised but FGM is way worse in the effects that it has not only physically but mentally on the female concerned.
By JeffinKS at 13,Jul,17 07:20 other posts of JeffinKS 
on this we will have to disagree....
I see that you are intact/uncut, and as such you have no idea what it it like to be circumcised. have you ever watched a video of a infant being strapped down so he can't move, then having the foreskin ripped from the glans? in the infant the foreskin is attached to the Glans just like the fingernail is to your finger.... also the foreskin has around 20,000 specialized nerve endings. I could go on but then this would be seen as just a rant. but ask yourself this... how would you feel if you were held against your will and had your foreskin cut off and then told it no big deal?
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furthermore, studies have shown that the brain chemistry of a circumcised male is different than that of an intact/uncut male... why is that?

I see no cause for FGM and would never allow a daughter of mine to have it done, but circumcision is as worse in the effects that it has not only physically but mentally on the male concerned.
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By mr_blue at 13,Jul,17 08:10 other posts of mr_blue 
Kinda saying what you've been saying Jeff.
To me, circumcision is an adult choice..
I have never quite understood why men would allow their sons genitals to be operated on....unless it's medically necessary..

By leopoldij at 13,Jul,17 09:13 other posts of leopoldij 
I agree with your point of view. I think a male should have a day whether he wants to be circumcised or not.
Having said that, however, I'm glad I'm circumcised.

By leopoldij at 04,Jul,17 12:14 other posts of leopoldij 
Trump wrestling with CNN:
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“He’s a genuine president expressing himself genuinely” (Trump's Security Advisor)

He has always been obnoxious, even before becoming president:
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By mr_blue at 04,Jul,17 12:32 other posts of mr_blue 
the media just keep repeating his tweets rather than focusing on the actual stuff that's getting done or not.
By leopoldij at 04,Jul,17 13:30 other posts of leopoldij 
Well, if you have a politician who behaves like a clown then it's only fitting to make fun of him.
By phart at 05,Jul,17 08:25 other posts of phart 
Well,he has always been a 5th grade bully type.But frankly I couldn't give a shit about that right now. We need a man with some balls in office to stand up to bullshit and get the country back on track.
Rather you agree with the above statement is irrelevant to this next 1.
He took a oath to defend our Constitution and so forth.
He is a American citizen. Since when did our bill of rights not apply to our president? He has the same freedom of speech and expression as any other American. We have just had a ass-clown for a president the past 8 years and are not used to a man saying what he thinks.
IF the damn media would shut the fuck up about bullshit and cover the NEWS and not some back room gossip,we could make progress in this country. People are so amazed by bullshit they can no longer handle the truth.
By mr_blue at 05,Jul,17 09:05 other posts of mr_blue 
What's he done so far Phart? I haven't seen too much getting done...all I have seen,is the EPA get ripped to pieces and regulations to protect consumers removed....the environmental impact of his decisions will have a knock on effect for future generations.....his tax plan looks stoopid,his Obamacare replacement is where exactly ?...
I'll say it again,Trump is just breaking up anything Obama had involvement in.... that's not normal behaviour,yes a new president would repeal some things their predecessors had in place,but not to the extent Trump's administration has been doing....
By JustWill at 05,Jul,17 12:47 other posts of JustWill 
You will never convince a true Trump supporter that the guy is a train-wreck and an embarrassment to the country, Alex. They don't understand the concept that the President is NOT just a normal citizen and should be held to a higher standard. They overlook the fact that, as the leader of our country he represents ALL Americans, and the majority of us think he is truly making us look bad in the eyes of the rest of the world. (Of course, real Trump supporters don't give a shit about the rest of the world--and they will be the first to tell you that.)
Instead, they blame the MEDIA, because that's what he has TOLD them to do. If he would stop acting like an entitled, spoiled ch1ld, the media would focus on his accomplishments (should he actually have any, that is).
Trump supporters are so enthralled by his bullshit that they can't actually see the TRUTH.
By bella! at 05,Jul,17 13:06 other posts of bella! 
JustWill, do you really feel that Hillary Clinton's image was that much better?
By JustWill at 05,Jul,17 14:10 other posts of JustWill 
It isn't about Clinton. Hasn't been since election night. She lost, and America's Number One Deplorable got the job. I base my judgement of Trump on his own behavior, and not on a comparison with a candidate who didn't get elected.
By bella! at 05,Jul,17 15:14 other posts of bella! 
I still don't get it.

Her lies and behavior prior to the election made it difficult for Americans to find confidence and pride in electing her in being in our country's driver's seat.
By mr_blue at 05,Jul,17 16:00 other posts of mr_blue 
She made her mistakes,if she had serious plans on being president,she sure did make some massive errors of judgement...she really shouldn't have been the candidate for the democrats,same as trump for the GOP...
By bella! at 05,Jul,17 17:57 other posts of bella! 
CORRECT and CORRECT. And we really didn't have much of a choice, it wasn't like we could say the joke is over, can we pick two more.

By #88520 at 05,Jul,17 18:04
Was it easier to find confidence and pride in placing a racist, serial sexual harasser and habitual conman into the drivers seat?

Has he shown any positive qualities since taking office? Just seems like a big embarrassing train wreck.
By bella! at 06,Jul,17 05:48 other posts of bella! 
Yes, Americans chose Donald Trump over a liar. Come to think of it, Bill Clinton did a fair amount of lying while he was in office. Oh, but give him props for being able to present himself in a proper light while in the public eye.
By JustWill at 06,Jul,17 09:17 other posts of JustWill 
"...chose Donald Trump over a liar."

Everything the man says is a lie of some kind. He has made a fortune on conning and misleading other people. Hell, he doesn't even lie well (the guy can hardly speak understandable English)...yet people keep believing in him.

The difference between Trump and Clinton is only that she didn't sound like a buffoon when she lied.

Oh...and she had a lot more class.

By leopoldij at 06,Jul,17 04:42 other posts of leopoldij 
Look what her wrote:
"Well,he has always been a 5th grade bully type.But frankly I couldn't give a shit about that"
That's the point. He should care.

By leopoldij at 06,Jul,17 05:07 other posts of leopoldij 
The other thing you notice is that CNN, itself a piece-of-shit channel, appears to be more progressive than Trump. This is unique.
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To wit (regarding the trump - dubbya comparison), notice, e.g., some of his sayings:
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By dgraff at 12,Jul,17 21:28 other posts of dgraff 
I go through life saying what ever the fuck I want to who or what ever I want so why shouldn't trump I lost faith in our government 30 years ago in my world it's every man for him self and only the strong servive I don't ask for any thing from our government nor do I want any thing from them I stand before you on my own two feet

By leopoldij at 05,Jul,17 10:30 other posts of leopoldij 
I understand that, perhaps, you're a billionaire yourself. Then, of course, Trump will protect your billions.

I was talking about having someone with some sense of dignity to be head of a state. I happen to think that most politicians are clowns, but this one, Trump, is the worst clown of all. He degrades the dignity of many Americans.

"He has the same freedom of speech and expression as any other American."

Yes, but he should follow a protocol. He may like to grab pussy, for instance, but a president is not allowed to say that. He may like to express his disgust towards others, but a president should follow some rules of conduct. Otherwise, he should not be a president. An American may feel free to get up in the morning, go to the window, and shout "I ha_te all of you fuckers", a president cannot do that. An American may feel free to fart in public, but if the president does that then the media will report it, rightly so. It happens all over the world (except Saudi Arabia).

By #435701 at 05,Jul,17 13:40
Bullies are balless, Phart. They pick on the weak while making a pretense of being strong...and do you REALLY want a '5th grade bully type' holding the key to YOUR very existence??...have you thought about what might happen if Trump De Dump unleashes our nukes in a fit of 5th grade anger? Not to mention he lies just like your 5th grader example. Not a fan of Obama, but the Trumpeter is truly dangerous to the planet and ALL of our lives.
By leopoldij at 06,Jul,17 05:13 other posts of leopoldij 
As I probably remarked before, you're in San Francisco, so you are not the typical trump supporter. The kind of things you say don't bother the average trump supporter; they couldn't give a shit if he nukes some far away place. I can tell you think like a foreigner. (Pun intended.)
By phart at 06,Jul,17 15:04 other posts of phart 
You mean I am supposed to care about what France thinks of the US because we are pulling out a agreement that would cost millions of dollars and jobs in this country so the "air" will be cleaner? The Air could be cleaner without their stinky perfumes.
I am supposed to care about what North Korea thinks of us?
I am supposed to care about what other country's think and put their satisfaction above our own? Is france going to replace the lost jobs from the new regulations their agreement would impose? Is Italy and the other pipsqueak country's going to support the unemployed? I doubt it, so do I care about what they think? NO.
I care about what it takes to get Americans back to work. I care about what it takes to get the roads,the bridges and rail system back in good condition.
I care about our national security. If we are all hiding in our basements scared to death by terrorist the rest of it does not make much difference.
If those other country's would stop concerning their selves with OUR affairs and fix their OWN , then after a while it may be feasible to sit down and talk.
The EPA,like alot of other organizations, had a good purpose when it began.But it is used now to control and destroy industry's that employee Americans and to **** millions of dollars to be spent to stay in compliance of some chicken shit law..It is outdated, overpowered and needs to be neutered.
Some folks are offended that Trump is asking why China and others can't help with Korea. WELL DUH, North Koreas missiles can't reach us,YET. But our Allies in those country's are in danger.It seems the latest test confirms Japan is well within reach now. It is a fair and honest question when they are ask, "Hey,why are you tolerating this?".

As for Clinton, yep,we narrowly escaped that nuclear holocaust. Even IF Trump is a train wreck,it would be much easier to clean up after him than her.

I hold my President to a higher standard.But at the same time I don't expect him to sit back and take unnecessary bullshit from folks only trying to undermine him.
Granted,he is falling into their trap. He should let a underling handle the media bullshit and get on with his job. He COULD do more,if the liberals would shut up and let the system work. It will take awhile to clean up after a sumbitch like Obama.
By leopoldij at 06,Jul,17 18:05 other posts of leopoldij 
Yes, that's what I mean. You need to care about the climate. It has nothing to do with you being American or not. It has to do that you live on this planet.
By phart at 06,Jul,17 19:02 other posts of phart 
Well,if we erased the human race from the face of the earth there would still be climate change or global warming or global cooling as it was called in the 60's.Greenhouse effect as it was referred to in the 70's. It has been going on for a long time. Due in part to changes in the planets structure,orbit around the sun and so forth.
Us tiny humans caring about the climate will change so little,regardless of our sacrifice it would hardly be noteworthy.
Have all the stupid laws in california about emissions fixed anything? Nope, as long as the jet stream carry's stuff from overseas it will remain a atmospheric septic tank.

Fukushima, hum,I wonder if the paris treaty is going to fix that? It has already raised the radiation levels in our grain in the Midwest thanks to the Jet stream. Me being a American makes that a legit concern of mine being I eat the damn food from those fields. Yet no one wants to deal with that problem. Liberal theory on that issue is," Coal makes some ash,OH my God, regulate the coal industry to the point of extinction and let's go NUCLEAR. so we can all glow in the dark in clean air! "

I would personally like to carry Algore's fat ass up on top of Mount Saint Helens and plug it with his big ass. No one pays attention to the fact he rides in big black Suburbans and owns several homes that consume much more energy than anything his drone's or followers could imagine living in. He makes no sacrifice himself but he and others like him have millions of people willing to go back to the damn stone age to save the climate.
MOST of the climate change thing,is a friggen hoax.
Just like that awful Y2K bug that was going to cause us all to be nuked by russian computers and starve to death and have 3 headed 2 footed babies.
That never materialized. Was anyone held accountable? Nope. Once Climate change is proven a hoax, there will be yet another hoax to follow in it's footsteps to keep all the little usefull idiots occupied.
By #88520 at 07,Jul,17 03:21
Sometime you should try and listen to people that actually know their stuff and not the oil money sponsored conservative media you seem to get all your ideas from. Every peer reviewed climate study agrees that the global warming we're experiencing is caused by the increase of CO2 emissions into the atmosphere and that drastic measures need to be taken before we reach a point of no return. You can keep sticking your head in the sand and think that you know better than every scientist that spends their life working with these issues but it doesn't make you look very bright.

Being afraid of eating grains because of Fukushima is not very bright either. Again scientists that knows their stuff have determined that any temporary increase would be so miniscule to not pose any threat at all. Unless you're eating whole fields of grain on a daily basis I don't think you have to worry! I agree that Nuclear Reactors probably shouldn't be built at locations that are prone to earthquakes and other natural hazards, but besides that it has an extremely good history of safety. Coal on the other hand is responsible for hundreds of thousands of people dying early in various lung diseases because of the pollution it causes and from mining it.
By JustWill at 07,Jul,17 08:41 other posts of JustWill 
Here in 'Merica, we don't trust no durn sciencetists! Wut the blazes does peeple who spent they entire lifes studyin' on facts and stuff know about anything? They's all init fer the munny an make shit up soes they kin take away our jobs.
It's all a conspiracy by Bigfoot and them thar aliems at Area 51--same ones as faked the landing on the moon!
By phart at 07,Jul,17 08:52 other posts of phart 
make a joke if you want to,but there may be truth in your joke. There is alot of money made in research. If proven wrong,look at all the unemployed scientist.
By #88520 at 07,Jul,17 10:21
Do you know what there's actually lot of money in? Oil, coal and gas industries!

Don't you understand how stupid it makes you look when you rather believe in a world spanning conspiracy between independent scientists and research institutes than accept the fact that the narratives you're being fed by the oil industry and their mouthpieces shouldn't be trusted?
By JustWill at 07,Jul,17 10:41 other posts of JustWill 
Them's all LIES! They is the same peeple what wants to vaccinate all our babies and give them the Artism!
'Merica don't need no more damn Artisicts. We needs regglar peeple what don't have time for no book learnin' and nonsense like that there. Theys way too much thinkin' goin on these here days. Peeple don't needs to be thinkin' cuz that's whut we gots Fox News for to do that for us.

By JustWill at 07,Jul,17 10:42 other posts of JustWill 
It's not really a joke. In fact, the way your people think is actually terrifying.
By dgraff at 12,Jul,17 21:42 other posts of dgraff 
Let's blow up this shit hole we call earth and let God sort out the truth

By leopoldij at 07,Jul,17 13:05 other posts of leopoldij 
It is pointless to speak with you since you are already convinced that everything that is against the USA (billionaires') financial interests (i.e., not yours, unless you're a billionaire) is not worth considering.

(A good discussant must also consider the opposite point of view.)

Actually, the climate issue is against the financial interests of many other countries as well: taking action for it costs money. But the motives of other countries are not just financial. They are primarily those of survival. France and Japan and China recognize that (well, partly). Of course, if your sole criterion is boosting the financial interests of the few then you are right. Nobody should do anything.

Think also this, if you can: Do you think that every other country who abides to the Paris climate accord is so stupid to want to go for it and it is only (some, and by no means all) Americans who want out that are smart?

No. You can't understand. I understand you can't. It's like me speaking Japanese and you English. しかし、私は英語を話し、英語は完璧に合理的です。

By Andthisisme at 08,Jul,17 06:56 other posts of Andthisisme 
What is truly frightening is that increasing numbers of people, not only in the US, are receiving their 'News' through social media rather than regular news sources, newspapers, radio and TV, without truly appreciating how unreliable some of that material is.

I wont claim traditional media are perfect, but then just as much as traditional media, and probably more so, news posted on social media has a deliberate spin.

The fact that the 'fake news' agenda has taken off with so many people in a number of countries is truly terrifying. 'Fake News' appears to be news that someone does not like. That does not make it untrue.

I am not a US citizen so it is not for me to comment or pass judgement on President Trump,history may look back on him and see him as a great president...but his tweets do not help his cause one bit. If he is judged by those...!!!!!
By leopoldij at 08,Jul,17 10:57 other posts of leopoldij 
I read/ look at BBC, New York Times, LeMonde, ZNet, the Guardian, El Pais, Japan Times and some other sources.

I agree with what you say. But it's Trump who's promoting fake news. He's the one who's tweeting and refuting facts if he doesn't like them. And because he does that he gets millions of people who believe what he says rather than looking at facts.

As for judging Trump or not, surely everyone in the world is affected by his decisions and surely everyone has the right, or even obligation, to observe and critique. Likewise, Teresa May's actions concern many beyond the UK.
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As for history, we can't entirely let things being judged by it either. History is written by the winners and history hides, or trivialized, many important events. One has to be extremely critical, cautious and careful with whatever history one reads.
By phart at 08,Jul,17 11:31 other posts of phart 
I know folks here probably think I am a complete asshole but perhaps if I explain my way of thinking a bit it might help.

Americas foundation is crumbling. Once jobs are lost,people can't support themselves. They can't pay taxes to fund roads and take care of the even poorer than themselves that are on public assistance. Detroit is a good example of the effects of unemployment.
America first,Trump's Idea, is to get folks back to work. so they can pay taxes, fix the roads for example,pay for their own health care. And those on public help have a chance to get what they need and maby even get a job themselves.
When I see climate change or something along that line put higher on the priority list than helping our own people take care of themselves it offends me.
And besides,a poor man is much more apt to drive a older polluting car than a man with a good job. A employed woman is more apt to care for her own **** than to expect the government to take care of them.
Once you repair your foundation,for example getting people back to work, then you can look at other problems.
Clean air is not worth a hoot if you are starving and naked because you can't afford what you need.

I could go on but I look at things a bit different.
As far as media,I can watch BBC or the Japanese news and get a better idea of what is going on here at home than I can cbs or nbc.
By leopoldij at 08,Jul,17 15:11 other posts of leopoldij 
I understand where you're coming from and I agree that you see so many problems around you and you'd like your government to do something about it. However, can't you see that the wars that US has launched, the recent ones and in the past, may be responsible for the waste of trillions of dollars? Also, you talk about taxes. Those who do not pay taxes are the big fish. And, no matter who the president is, they won't pay all the taxes they owe. Because the whole thing is their game. The government is a buffer, something to hide the real mafia. Who runs the country? Corporations do. And this is global now. Who cares about countries? We passed from a phase of empires (up to beginning of 20th c.) to a phase of corporations. This was the idea of the US, mostly. And it's gonna be like that from now on. People are worth nothing. They can be disposed of. Oil is worth a lot and, for this, Americans, Arabs, Iranians, Europeans, ... will be sacrificed. In the mean time, British people think that by getting out of Europe will boost their economy and Americans think that Trump will save the country. Both are deluded.

By Andthisisme at 08,Jul,17 16:54 other posts of Andthisisme 
I totally understand why so many people voted for President Trump, he was offering a vision of a better world for them. In our recent election Jeremy Corbyn painted a different but equally positive view of the future if he and his party won the election.
Trump, unlike Corbyn won. Now he has to deliver.

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By Big_Balled_Artist at 08,Jul,17 20:00 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
I live in qc canada, at 5 min of the us borders so I live in a slowly gentrificating redneck town where french/english rich/poors tradiotionnalists/progressists fight all the time. 1/3 (or more)of the households in town illegaly grows cannabis (from 50 to 50000 plants, mostly outdoor, mostly some seriously dank stuff, we also have wacko meth/speed/moonshine makers). The town is full of alcoholics, weed smokers and speed addicts on welfare. We also see a lot of US army UAVs flying low, police choppers and Canadian C-17 flying low. Our local historic monuments(round barn, covered bridge) are falling down and the crooked administration rather take more money from themself than to make them great again( 🎃🇺🇸. But it's also a beautiful place with mountains, lakes, swamps, fields, farms, all sorts of good products and a few rare but really precious good peoples. Skiing is cheap, weed, organic veggies and meat are too. There is also some really talented artists living near. A live action nude show is filmed here too. the worst part is I can't find a girlfriend or a fuck buddy since all the pretty young women have moved out of the town
By CountryCouple54 at 08,Jul,17 20:05 other posts of CountryCouple54 
With all that said, exactly what was your problem?
By Big_Balled_Artist at 08,Jul,17 20:33 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
Just news, talking about where I'm living, is it similar in the US Country?

By Big_Balled_Artist at 08,Jul,17 20:45 other posts of Big_Balled_Artist 
But my main problem would be the young woman drought

By onthelose at 05,Jul,17 13:29 other posts of onthelose 
Alex blue you just don't understand that after 8 years of socialist Obama we decided that isn't what we want here in this country. Of course we want him to tear down all the socialist craramp that the dems pushed thru. That's what we elected him to do. All we need now is for him to show us who in the republic party don't want to go back to democracy, so we can work on voting them out.
By mr_blue at 05,Jul,17 14:15 other posts of mr_blue 
Tell me what socialist crap Obama pushed through, please,cuz all I hear is Obama fucked up the country,tell me how he did that ? Don't just say Obama was a socialist,tell me what he actually did that was so bad !!!!
By Andthisisme at 06,Jul,17 17:04 other posts of Andthisisme 
I try to follow U.S. politics a little and I have come to the conclusion that we, in the UK and Europe, need to understand and accept that when it comes to politics the situation in the U.S. is totally and utterly alien to us.
i would not want to offend anyone and that is not my intention. I am not saying that the U.S politicians and voters are wrong or right just they think totally differently to us Europeans.
Two examples of the huge gulf that separates us and make my point are Gun control and Obamacare.
By mr_blue at 06,Jul,17 17:14 other posts of mr_blue 
I'm not anti America at all, I'm of the opinion to understand a nation you need to ask the people that live there how things affect them... if someone is for or against something, that's their right,just a bit more clarity in an answer rather than Obama fucked up the USA, I'm interested in how did he did that ?... that's how I get a better understanding.. it's not personal against anyone, I'm just asking a question...
By Andthisisme at 06,Jul,17 18:12 other posts of Andthisisme 
I wasn't suggesting that you were, I apologise if I Appeared to, really it was just me putting forward a view, very carefully, that I really don't think that we in the UK can truly comprehend how the U.S mind works politically. How else can we explain the fact that so many Americans see providing healthcare for the poor and needy as a bad thing. At the moment we in the UK are wanting to spend more on our health services to support those in need, in the states they want to spend less and remove cover from millions of people. People who then must fend for themselves. We are poles apart.
By mr_blue at 06,Jul,17 18:49 other posts of mr_blue 
I didn't think you were suggesting I was anti American..
And I don't think a lot of Americans see providing healthcare for the poor and needy as a bad thing,I would say a lot of them agree with that principle, it's how it's implemented...

By onthelose at 05,Jul,17 13:20 other posts of onthelose 
Trump is a master at yanking your chain. To bad you can't see that through your Trump derangement syndrome. Why would we care what a bunch of socialist around the world and in the states care. Don't call us again when you are in trouble and want us to bail you out like we did in World War Two. I admit that we let our presidents get us mixed up in Vietnam Korea iraq Afghanistan. Hindsight is of course 20/20.
By mr_blue at 05,Jul,17 14:23 other posts of mr_blue 
I haven't got Trump derangement syndrome,it doesn't matter to me cuz I'm not American, I'm just wondering what Trump has actually done,and I get stuff about world war two....
By leopoldij at 06,Jul,17 18:07 other posts of leopoldij 
Actually, it does matter to you too, unfortunately. Decisions of this deranged person affect the whole planet.

By mr_blue at 03,Jul,17 21:21 other posts of mr_blue 
Happy Independence day to the Americans

🎆 🎆
By JustWill at 04,Jul,17 09:21 other posts of JustWill 
Happy Under Panties day to you, too!
By mr_blue at 04,Jul,17 11:34 other posts of mr_blue 

By leopoldij at 04,Jul,17 12:08 other posts of leopoldij 
And to the Brits from the EU (although I'm not sure they still want it).
By mr_blue at 04,Jul,17 12:18 other posts of mr_blue 
you get your dates mixed up leo ? Referendum was 24th June 2016....
Not really sure the EU wanted Britain to join in the first place anyway..
By leopoldij at 04,Jul,17 13:28 other posts of leopoldij 
no, no, i'm not mixed up at all.
all i'm saying is that, given the fiasco, if there was another referendum (if...) i'm confident it would be against brexit.
people are, generally speaking, stupid. they fell for demagogues' promises and did't bother to check the facts themselves.
so, my wish, "And to the Brits from the EU" was ironic because i think that many have now regretted it. (And Farage laughs for having tricked them.)
By mr_blue at 04,Jul,17 14:01 other posts of mr_blue 
Democratic process.... politics is the art of talking shit leo....they all promise something and they all fail with those promises..
By leopoldij at 04,Jul,17 15:53 other posts of leopoldij 
I do not disagree.
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By #529768 at 14,Jun,17 20:08
Thinking of all the people that have been affected by the horrible tower blaze in London. I cant begin to imagine the terror it must have been there. Your all in our prayers
By licksipsuckit at 14,Jun,17 20:12 other posts of licksipsuckit 
yeah, sympathy to the many victims and their families and friends, and medals for all the firemen who spent hours trying to fight the inferno and save as many lives as they could. a very sad day for London, its suffered too much the last few weeks, *lix*
By phart at 15,Jun,17 10:35 other posts of phart 
I saw this on the local news,what a terrible mess. And London has already had more than it's fair share of tragedy lately.
By mr_blue at 15,Jun,17 11:02 other posts of mr_blue 
My neighbour has f@mily near where the tower is,and they said it was the most disturbing thing they have ever seen...
By bella! at 15,Jun,17 11:45 other posts of bella! 
I did not catch the news, only snippets on the radio.... I understand the structure is a 24 story apartment building and there were 12 confirmed deaths. Was the entire building a loss or was the fire contained to certain floors?
By mr_blue at 15,Jun,17 12:02 other posts of mr_blue 
S3v3nt33n people have died, according to police, with the number expected to rise.
The London Ambulance Service says 74 people have been treated in six hospitals - St Mary's, Chelsea and Westminster, Royal Free, St Thomas', Charing Cross Hospital and King's College Hospital.
Thirty-seven patients remain in hospital of whom 17 are in critical care.
Firefighters rescued 65 people from the building, according to the London Fire Brigade. Others made their own way out.
It is unknown how many people remain unaccounted for, with police saying that it is unlikely that more survivors will be found.(BBC)
London Mayor Sadiq Khan said fire crews only managed to reach the 12th floor at the height of the fire.
Fire went through for the structure I haven't read about that yet...
By bella! at 15,Jun,17 12:06 other posts of bella! 
S3v3nt33n? What?
By mr_blue at 15,Jun,17 12:24 other posts of mr_blue word filter won't allow the correct spelling.. could've used 17 I suppose I c&p from the BBC website... normally I just replace an e with 3 ...

By #534172 at 16,Jun,17 07:51
The whole thing is just hideous - what an awful way to die, or be injured, or even to escape from. I understand that some, who knows how many, were able to escape and survive because there were a number of young Muslim guys up late, waiting to break their Ramadan fast with a ceremonial first meal to start the day of fasting, and were running through the building waking up people to warn them. Bless them.

Having said that, what kind of idiotic planning laws allowed a 27 storey building to have ONE stairwell, two lifts and no central fire alarm system? What hope did the poor buggers on the upper floors have?

Awe to the firefighters who risked their lives going into the building, and to the local community who have rallied so strongly to support the people left grieving and homeless having lost everything except the clothes they stand up in. My God, the world is just a heartbreaking place at the moment, isn't it?

I'm pretty well non-religious, so my prayers would probably not amount to much, but I would really hope that we can all put aside our prejudices and fears of each other and reach out in basic humanity to one another in times like these.
By bella! at 16,Jun,17 09:25 other posts of bella! 
A high rise structure in a major city with only 2 elevators and one stairwell? That's crazy! I wonder how old the structure is and whether it meets today's building safety codes or whatever it is referred to.

Our corporate headquarter is 21 stories tall with 2 stairwells. Two times per year we have an unannounced fire drill, my guess is because 100 years ago (my way of saying that it was so far back, I can't remember when) if smoke was detected, alarms would go off and we would sit at our desks with stupid looks on our face and not know what was going on or what to do. Currently, our instructions are odd numbered floors take one stairwell and the even numbered floors take the other. Thank God that these are only drills because I think that if there were a true emergency, some folks will forget everything.
By #517356 at 16,Jun,17 13:47
Structure was built in 1974 and at the time building regs didn't dictate sprinkler systems would you believe! The building was recently renovated and the specualtion ( as nothings been confirmed ) is that the pannellinng on the outside allowed the fire to spread up the outside of the building , bypassing any firewalls and fire protection within the building. Absolutely horrifying , and more worrying is there are more buildings like it
By bella! at 16,Jun,17 16:19 other posts of bella! 
Wow, a structure built in 1974 with no sprinkler system, 1 stairwell and 2 elevators to accommodate 27 floors of people? A building less than 50 years old and not regulated under modern safety standards!

I can only draw from what my employer has hammered into us regarding the elevators in the event of a fire. We are told that the elevators are inoperable so do not attempt to use them. Doesn't that have something to do with the back draft within the shaft which can cause the fire to rapidly spread?

By Arexa at 10,Jun,17 11:39 other posts of Arexa 
Adam West died!
By #507249 at 10,Jun,17 12:22
No way!!!! Damn...another icon gone

By big9inch21 at 10,Jun,17 12:43 other posts of big9inch21 
Family guy will never be the same!

By mr_blue at 10,Jun,17 13:27 other posts of mr_blue 

By #525562 at 09,Jun,17 17:40
Is it just me but I S I S I attacking I ran seems odd..or maybe the middle east is trying re-brand the area.
By leopoldij at 09,Jun,17 20:35 other posts of leopoldij 

By #534172 at 10,Jun,17 09:08
Ifgather it's Sunni Saudi and their Sunni Saudi allies v. Shia Iran. I **** are Sunni basically - but they're no friends of the Saudi rulers either. It's a schism that goes back to the Prophet's time - a split about who should succeed Mohammad.

By leopoldij at 09,Jun,17 20:37 other posts of leopoldij 
Teresa May got fucked in the UK elections. She thought she'd win more and now she lost part of what she had.
Cry now, old farty woman!

By mr_blue at 03,Jun,17 20:49 other posts of mr_blue 
Police are attending two terror incidents in central London..
By #517356 at 04,Jun,17 07:41
Unfotunately this is true.... six dead after 3 maniacs run over pedestrians walking over London Bridge and then they started stabbing people in restaurants near by .... all three scum shot dead by our police within 8 minutes of the initial call to the police

Sad times
By phart at 04,Jun,17 08:26 other posts of phart 
Sadly there are 3 replacements waiting in the shadows. Sad times indeed.

By bella! at 04,Jun,17 10:21 other posts of bella! 
Has any group or person claimed to be behind this atrocity?
By #517356 at 04,Jun,17 17:25
haven't heard anyone claim responsibility but appears to be Islamic extremists ... and unfortunately the death toll is 7 not the 6 first reported

By leopoldij at 04,Jun,17 17:28 other posts of leopoldij 
They were shouting the name of their good, her name is allallah I think, so they're the same kind of idiots.
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By phart at 04,Jun,17 17:56 other posts of phart 
Well Trump has told the Brits the US will help any way they can.

Not meaning to take away from the meaning of the original post but I must admit, I don't know how the anti-gun nuts will react to this quote.
After the London attack, Trump noted, "Do you notice we are not having a gun debate right now? That's because they used knives and a truck!"
By mr_blue at 04,Jun,17 18:19 other posts of mr_blue 
Trump hasn't a clue about anything....his tweets are nothing but an embarrassment to your wonderful nation I'm afraid...
By leopoldij at 04,Jun,17 19:07 other posts of leopoldij 
Of course Trump has no clue about anything. He's scizzo.

By JustWill at 04,Jun,17 22:28 other posts of JustWill 
Agreed, alex!
His FIRST tweet--before offering help and condolences like any truly decent person would do--was a call for putting the "travel" ban in place in the US. Trump is the epitome of the "ugly American". No class,

By leopoldij at 04,Jun,17 19:09 other posts of leopoldij 
The incident took place in the UK, not in the US. People there don't carry guns.
By phart at 04,Jun,17 19:30 other posts of phart 
Yes,I know.But most of the time any attack always brings out the crowds here in the US.
Back to the subject,Someone has got to come up with a way to help combat this type thing. We can't expect people to sit barricaded in their homes . There has got to be a logical solution. Somewhere.
Folks that value life make up what could be a large think tank. If all of us could put aside our petty differences and consider what we have in common, the desire to live, and then discuss ways to protecting that goal.
By leopoldij at 04,Jun,17 21:42 other posts of leopoldij 
Sure, of course differences should be out away, but I'm not sure I understand what you suggest.
By phart at 04,Jun,17 22:14 other posts of phart 
Well for example a group like this, has a blog post that folks respond to with ideas. Ideas good enough to go further someone could type up and send off to someone who could implement.
some would lean towards talking it out,others would lean towards blowing everything related to hades.
But somewhere in the middle is a answer.
Pardon me for thinking out loud but frankly to many people ,young,and old have died needlessly and it needs to stop.
By leopoldij at 05,Jun,17 02:31 other posts of leopoldij 
You're absolutely right but Trump (or most heads of states) don't care who has died or not. They have, of course, to appear they care, but they don't give a fuck about it.

By #525562 at 04,Jun,17 22:04
I saw the news of it and was saddening ,Ariana Grande concert and now this.

By Arexa at 03,Jun,17 20:06 other posts of Arexa 
A question of the day thing just popped up on me, and it says something to the effect of "do you like to use your shower head to massage your anus? "...
I tried that once and got a hot stream of hot water straight up my asshole and it was the most awkward feeling in the world, plus, then I had to waddle to the toilet to expell that accidental hot water enema.... I can't be the only one it's happened to. Any other accidental enema tales to tell on here?
By leopoldij at 04,Jun,17 07:11 other posts of leopoldij 
How about massaging your pussy with a stream of water? Have you done that?

By mr_blue at 14,May,17 07:21 other posts of mr_blue 
On Thursday, Trump signed an executive order that establishes a commission to study voter fraud and the integrity of the US election system, chaired by Vice President Mike Pence. The commission will be charged with getting a report to Trump with recommendations for eliminating “vulnerabilities” in America’s voting process.

Trump and his team, in his defense, have cited a 2012 report from the Pew Center on the States as evidence for their claim. But the report didn’t even focus on voter fraud. Instead, it looked the technical aspects of voter registration systems, and how America could save money by upgrading how it registers voters.

As part of that, the Pew report found that more than 1.8 million registered voters were actually dead, while 2.75 million had registrations in more than one state. This is where Trump apparently got his “millions” figure.

But that doesn’t mean that even one of these registrations was used for **** votes. America has a multi-step system for voting: You register, then vote. The report only shows that people registered and were never taken off the rolls. They didn’t even have to register for the latest election — some of them registered for the 2008 election, then died or moved, and states just didn’t take them off their rolls. So someone could have registered in Ohio in 2008, moved to Pennsylvania by 2012, and simply forgotten to notify Ohio’s elections system that he had moved — even though he never had any intention of voting in Ohio again.
For example, Steve Bannon, Trump’s chief strategist and senior counselor, reportedly voted for Trump in New York. But it turns out that he was also still registered to vote in Florida last year, because he never officially deregistered in the Sunshine State, even though he didn’t vote there.

And David Becker, who worked on the 2012 Pew report, unequivocally said that the report found “zero evidence of fraud." (vox)
By phart at 14,May,17 18:33 other posts of phart 
Here is what annoys me.
Here in the US if you buy a pack of cigarettes unless you look 90, you will be ask for a id to prove you are old enough.
If you want to buy alcohol, again you are ask for a id to prove you are old enough.

BUT GOD forbid if you are ask for a ID to make sure you are the person voting under your name! That is just terrible according to the libtards.
Voting is a important part of what is supposed to make America a great country. Men and women have fought and died to protect that right. But some folks think it is ok for just any body to vote, rather they are a legal citizen or a felon or whatever. Screw that, secure the voting process in any way possible to make sure it is done fairly and legally.
By mr_blue at 14,May,17 18:39 other post