Started by #487013 at 25,Sep,18 19:10
 | Thoughts? Rumors have been circulating for years as well as numerous jokes. I grew up watching the Cosby show and the stories I heard made me feel sick to my stomach. What a creep, he was a father figure to many of that era. Feels like a betrayal in many ways. |
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Just a case of a bunch of illegally drunk teens with hormones raging at a party.How the hell they even remember the party is beyond me.
This link talks about a theory,proven wrong about the situation.But it still reads alot of useful info.Fords family kept the home after Kavennaughs mom ruled on their side!
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From what I read a WOMAN lawyer has been hired to handle the questions that is a expert in sexual crimes.
This should prevent the Dems from placing blame on the Republicans and ensure a fair and just questioning.
But it is not related to the rest of this particular discussion as they are busy grilling me for not being so liberal.
I can't help but wonder,if the democrats were inserting 1 of their own into the courts,would they be grilled this hard? Would the repubs stoop to the level of the liberals with all these accusations? I doubt they would allow their canidate to be questioned at all.
Oh, but I'm sure that's "the media" or something. "Can't trust it." Right?
Supreme court appointments are for *life.* It only makes sense that the candidates are properly vetted beforehand, regardless of party.
But something that may have happened 36 years ago when the person was still a **** legally, I would think he has had plenty of time to learn from his mistakes and be a better man.
This particular situation smells strong of a witchhunt.
I seem to recall similar witchhunts resulting in the impeachment of a sitting president, although that was entirely consensual behavior...
It is called Character Assassination. The idea is to trash someone to manipulate public opinion.
I also think it is very sad with all the potential terrorism attacks,school shootings and dr0gdealing and such going on that our FBI has to drop it all to go follow up on 36 year old leads regarding a drunk teenage boy trying to take off a shirt. It is also my understanding that if a guy is so drunk he can't stand up, neither will his dick, so there was no real danger to her anyhow.
What threat is a 80 something year old man now that is damn near blind? Prison,I doubt he will live a year in there. Protection from cruel and unusual punishment is something our constitution protects us from.But to put a 80 something year old man in prison with a bunch of young punks is going to get him killed.
I have no doubt he got alot of pussy back when he was young.
I also doubt those women were to dumb to know or had no idea what they were getting into when they willing went with him to his home or private place and took drugs and had sex.
They could not have been that naive. **** use was and still is common place and sex goes right along with drugs.
Same as casting couches and acting.
I think it was to severe a punishment myself at his age and considering his health. Time already served and probation would have been plenty.Now the tax payers get to keep him up. Which taxpayers would include those women that accused him so ,perhaps there is some karma after all.
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Why suddenly was it a crime? How many people here have seduced a woman in a bar with a few drinks and took her off somewhere and fucked her? It was ok then,but why suddenly is it not?
No means no....fuck the who was high stuff...
You seem to think that being out of it excuses Cosby and his behaviour...
And you use the term "seduce" ...really....what you actually mean is that you get a woman drunk and take advantage of her...
You're so blinkered by the male perspective it's dizzying..
So you think the women willingly getting high is not a issue? Geez, "oh he is going to give me some dope and I am going to take a nap on this sofa while he goes to town to run errands".
I sure hope a female in your f@mily never has any abuse come their way,cuz you'll just shrug it off,and say it's the woman's fault for being drunk/high and dismiss any accusations against the dude...
And the woman should be able to go and take a nap without fear of being abus3d..... regardless of whether she is high/dunk.
Perhaps you don't understand that there is shame felt by the victim and who she/they accused was a high profile comedian. Who would they believe if one stepped forward. One got her voice and so did 50+ more. Are they going to think all the women crazy? Yes, it is unfortunate that it took 20 years for them to step forward, but again, the victim bears a lot of shame.
Everybody knows that mens has no control over they urges and stuff.
Honestly, listening to guys of a certain generation give their "perspective" on how women should react to sexual assault is like listening to a white guy talk about how black people are "exaggerating" about shitty treatment by the legal system in 'Merica.
You come from the generation of "Look how she was dressed! She was ASKING to be raped." And "If she didn't want to have sex, why was she even there?" And "Sure I grabbed her ass. She should take it as a compliment."
Yeah, and parents should warn their ch.ildren people who carry badges and carry fake "credentials" aren't always police or workers for a utility or service company. Get real, phat!
If someone steals your car,do you wait 20+ years to report it?
If someone breaks into your house and steals your jewelry box ,do you wait 20+ years to report it?
NO,you report it shortly after it happens so something can be done to rectify the problem.
BUT it appears that with your logic,it is ok to teach the kids to call 9-11 when their car gets stolen,but don't call 9-11 to report their body favors being stolen for at least 20 years,only then will anyone believe you.Even though if you report it soon enough your body and clothing will contain evidence to prove your case and get justice sometime within the current decade.
Why do people call the police when a possession is stolen,cuz it's likely they have to cuz of insurance...and it's replaceable...
The human psyche is fragile...once it's broken it's hard to fix and it's not replaceable...
So you are basically blaming women for themselves getting abus3d...
You're part of the problem....and you can't even see it..
It's negative re-enforcement...
Women won't report abus3 cuz they get dismissed and stigmatized...even in your previous post you make the assumption that a woman who is high/drunk is basically asking for it...so women are pre disposed to keeping quiet...
And when they do come forward like Christine Blasey Ford they have to suffer bismirching of their name/credibility...
Even stormy Daniels is suffering from it... people think cuz she was a porn star her opinion is crap,and snide comments from people like Lindsey Graham saying Avenetti is just a lawyer for pornstars...it re-enforces an image that certain groups are not worthy of being listened to.
Even trump is part of the problem...he got caught on tape saying "grab "em by the pussy" FFS...and people still dismissed it...
So yeah, women going up against a male dominated system is difficult...
Bella,I would report what happened,if I had no way of finding and shooting the son of a bitch myself.
Why in the hell would I want to stew for decades about what happened and the crook walk around bragging? Even after justice is given,the mental pain would still be there.I would just know perhaps he will get a dose of his own medicine behind bars.
The little sumbitch that bullied me in school and caused a brain concussion and a week in the hospital got his wake up call when I came close to killing him in shop class. He was a problem student,stayed in the principles office all the time, but when I sunk a hammer into a cement block wall and the chips went in his right ear,he saw the light. And that was a 2 pound hammer thrown 20 feet.Went down in the block wall,probably be there till the school is torn down. He Was not a problem anymore.Actually his grades improved and he went on to own a roofing company.Actually did our roof twice so far in 30 years.Quality work,when I need another roof,I will give him a call.So when I say I would probably take care of the problem,I have experience in taking care of some.That was just 1 example that I can talk about.
I do not support abuse or use of women against their will and have no understanding of a man that would want to.And if the case is handled promptly so there is no shadow of doubt,a stiff punishment is due for the crime.
But waiting so long, makes no sense.You tell me about shame and systems working against women? DUH,what is the METO movement doing? Working against that mindset. WHY in the hell did it take DECADES for women to say enough is enough? Women are strong,smart and hard working and capable of greatness.But until just recently,let something happen to them and they hide behind their petty coats and the fact they are female and the laws are written in their favor.
IF I was rap#d,and I went to the law, I seriously doubt a damn thing would be done. But they best not make the mistake of showing me any info to help find the crook,or it will be solved with a good funeral,the crooks, as I am a purty good shot even with open sights.
Now that I have honestly answered your question,and also tried to explain I in no way support **** against women,
Bella,or other women here that want to respond,Would YOU wait 20 years? Would you lay in wait until the crook got to the higher rungs of the social ladder and come out with the info?
OKAY, that out of the way, let's set the record straight, a r@pist is a r@pist and not a crook. A r@pist is a perpetrator of a very heinous crime. A crook is the person that steals your car and breaks into your home. See, you are trying to MINIMIZE the crime of r@pe once again.
I don't know what I would do if I were r@ped, I really don't. And my guess is that if you were sodomized, you wouldn't be taking your tore up, spunked up ass down to the police station to possibly be leered at and snickered about because some deranged man or men had their way with your ass. You know, you might have been "asking for it".
Where is the shame of the first victim for not speaking up and preventing the future r@pes?
You and anyone else that knew they could have stepped up to the plate and prevented these crimes and let it happen because of "shame" would only add to the burden you bear.
think about that before you blast me to hard.
Crook,criminal, rap1st, all the same.All have committed crimes.
I can't believe I'm actually disclosing this about myself, but I feel too strong about it not to.
In 1997, I was still "in the closet" and made my first venture alone to a gay bar. I was being served at the bar and a local guy next to me heard my accent and that struck up the start of a nice, friendly chat. He was a nice guy and we ended up having a couple of drinks together, but after a short while, I began to feel totally out of it and it turned out he'd spiked my drink with something. That's pretty much the last thing I remember of the bar. The guy and his friend subjected me to roughly a day and a half of abvse, and I don't mean just very rough sex, I mean hateful abvse, until I managed to make a run for it whilst they were arguing in another room.
I ended up a wreck. Off work for months with severe depression, eventually losing my job due to not being able to face going outside because of the anxiety the experience left me with. Even though I did NOTHING to encourage it, I still felt ashamed and too scared to mention it to anyone until just last year - 20 years later. There hasn't been a day since then when it hasn't crept into my mind at some point, and I was too afraid and insecure to let anyone near me until I met a good guy years later. Even then, my hang-ups as a result of it affected my relationship so much that we split up.
So I can totally understand those women not speaking up sooner. Speaking up about something you know will open up a can of worms for you and especially if it involves someone in the public eye like Cosby is damn scary, plus those women had to defend their accusations as if they're the criminals because the argument against them was "how could they truly know for sure it happened if they were unconsciouss throughout the experience...".
The justice those women Cosby abvsed is a fucking joke! His sentence pretty much equates at roughly a couple of months, if that, for each woman he r@ped? That's not justice. He gets 3-10 years and they get a life sentence - they're being abvsed all over again by the system with that ruling.
Like I said at the start of this post, I don't mean any disrespect or offence. He deserves a harsher punishment and those women deserve better justice.
As for the first victim speaking up to prevent,I don't get off thinking they are responsible for catching the pervert,although I do believe they should reconsider their silence when others are risk of suffering the same injury they did. It is the laws responsibility to catch the crook,pervert,whatever,but they can' if all the victims sit at home and suffer in silence.
Whoknows,did you consider counseling or anything of that sort other than going thru police?
Rather anyone here believes it or not,it does help me and others to understand the other side of the coin ONCE someone takes the time to explain. How can anyone understand either side of the problem when no 1 speaks up but the haters and the hated like me?
I did consider the counselling route many times over the years, but just like most people who go through something like that, I couldn't bring myself to talk about it and as time went by, the prospect of doing so was overpowered by the thought of bringing it all to the surface again would be too much - almost like I'm giving them their power over me and reliving the pain all over again, so keeping it to myself and doing my best to bury it away in my mind instead just seemed easier to cope with.
Also, I couldn't cope with the possible changes in how people close to me would regard me once I confided in them. I **** the idea of being thought of as a victim or pitied because, once again, that's something that would mean the bastards who did it to me still have power over me. And, once I tell just one person about it, that information is out there forever and I'd never know where it spreads to, which is empowering them again too.
I had a nervous breakdown last year and that's how I came to finally confide in just two people - my m0ther and my ex boyfriend. Once I told them, it helped me tell the psychiatrist, who I was under the care of during my breakdown.
When I first started posting my pics on here, that was a kind of counselling for me in a way. I was taking back control of how and what I allow people to see and know about me. The comments and compliments gave me back the feeling of knowing I wasn't just a piece of meat like those guys treated me. I know that sounds over the top, but it's true.
Sorry about my rambling, but one last thing...
For years since that experience, I periodically go through times when depression about it where I Google for past news reports of similar attacks on guys in the area I was living in, or police reports asking for witness information about them in the hope of finding the bastards. I never have found anything and I don't know how I'd react now if I did.
Anyway, thanks for reading.
According to alot of pages of a 650 page stack of paperwork regarding my accident and the treatments afterwards I am diagnosed as severely depressed and medicine and treatments and counseling were recommended and I refused. So I understand the weeks that a person feels done under the landfill in the sub-terrain.
BTW, I don't think he's really blind. I think that charade was for the Judge and Jury.
Enjoy rotting in jail you slime ball.
I can tell tell you,Being I went thru the lawsuit crap trying to get justice related to my accident that left me unable to work a full time job,the damn money does nothing to fix the pain or suffering ,and to get rid of the pain would be worth 50 times more than any suit will put in your pocket.
And yes I have the mental as well as physical.The money might get you a better fridge or a better chair or a better car,but your ass is still going to hurt,your mind is still going to be screwed up. Period.
The only folks that will really benefit from suits of any kind are the damn lawyers. I hope there is a special place in hell for them.They can play Dracula on Halloween and not even wear a mask or cape.
The worst things that can happen to such vile people is to have their wealth and power taken from them and this process has started with him.
You're concerned about his wife? Maybe Bill Cosby should have shown her some respect during all the time he was doing this but of course we all know now that he has ZERO respect for ANY women don't we Phart?
Bill Cosby is a monster of the worst kind and I really hope there's a special place in hell for him.
You may also want to do a bit of research. The courts can award any amount they like.But it is up to YOU and your lawyer to TRY to collect.There is no definite laws to make sure victims get paid.What is accumulated cost the victims alot of the money in legal fees. I am aware of 2 situations personally where as a person was ordered to pay X amount of dollars to victims and he never paid a cent.Their lawyers tried to collect, his lawyer prevented it. so it cost a small fraction of what he owed to avoid payment.It was well over a 100 grand,he died having paid NONE of it to the victim.
His belongings were scant and worthless and the truck he drove was his mothers.
Your consistent defence of Bill Cosby makes you sound like a lawyer. I don't understand why you think that he's been done wrong by the court system.
At his age,and his health,home confinement and probation would have prevented any future crimes and would allow His funds to be used for his health care,and so forth.Now the tax payers get to do it. Yahoo.
If anything should be done with his fortune, his wife should file a divorce. Then the funds would be divided and her portion would be there for her care and his portion could be up for the vultures. IN reality,it should be accessible by the state to cover his living cost.
It is all a faзade. We all hide deep dark secrets and some of them are just plain ugly.
Growing up, my father and I were always fairly close, but, when it came to my sense of humor, he didn't quite "get" me. Stuff that had me laughing like crazy just caused Dad to look at me like I was a lunatic from Mars. He was a Three Stooges and Jerry Lewis kind of guy, I was into Monty Python and Robin Williams. There was a huge divide between what we found funny.
Except for Bill Cosby.
Dad and I spent hours listening to Cosby's comedy records together; laughing until we had tears in our eyes and our sides hurt. The guy was a comic genius! And those records (later, cassette tapes) provided some great bonding time for my father and me...
Now, it's impossible to listen to his stuff without thinking about what a horrible person he is. It tarnishes those fond memories, and I resent it big time.
I will never forget back when a popular basketball player announced he had aids. Everyone thought he was suddenly a hero.There was a editorial cartoon 1 morning that showed a fireman and a policeman both tired and haggardly from a hard days work and a picture of this basketball ball player and the caption was " Which do you consider the hero".
Are you suggesting that all football players are serial rapists?
Some not all for goodness sake.Geez.
"these football players and other popular folks are not worthy of being role models" sure LOOKS like a generalization.