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TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME

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Started by #559941 at 21,Jul,18 04:24
Donald Trump won fair and square 2 years ago and dumb-asses can't get over the election? lol

When Fox News Posted that at 2AM on November 9th 2016 it wasn't fake news...

Donald Trump won November 8th 2016. Hillary will not be president ! She has more chances to go to jail than the White house....

It's over ! get over it..



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By kebmo at 07,Mar,24 06:49 other posts of kebmo 
Oh MTG, always the lady. 😄

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By #610414 at 08,Mar,24 13:45
She wore a MAGA hat during the President's speech and, throwing decorum to the wind, interrupted him during the speech. This woman needs a muzzle. This is what MAGA and the Clown call politics. For shame
By phart at 08,Mar,24 17:59 other posts of phart 
freedom of speech perhaps? An abuse of it as it wouldn't be proper to interrupt any pres during a speech but still, freedom of speech.
By #610414 at 08,Mar,24 20:00
So is having flatulence in a crowded elevator, but, Phart, it's not done.
By phart at 09,Mar,24 03:19 other posts of phart 
oh don't you tell me you never let 1 slip on a elevator.now you are old enough to know better than to tell a fib.
By #610414 at 09,Mar,24 03:33
Doing it and being right are two different things




By kebmo at 08,Mar,24 19:29 other posts of kebmo 
Oh yeah his not so Sleepy Joe speech. I saw it. He was very capable of luring her into his verbal trap and then slamming the lid on her classless MAGA covered head.
By #610414 at 08,Mar,24 20:07
It was fun to watch.
By kebmo at 09,Mar,24 03:20 other posts of kebmo 
“I would rather have a president with 81 years behind him then 91 counts ahead of him.”

-Viewer from Michigan
By #610414 at 09,Mar,24 03:34
Hahaha🤣







By phart at 08,Feb,20 15:04 other posts of phart 
There is another perspective about this Ukraine thing folks don't seem to even consider.

Let me ask a question.Are we at War with Russia?
Most would say profoundly, "no". Because they are not bombing us,we are not bombing them and so on.
We are not bringing home dead soilders that they killed.
BUT Ukraine is at war with Russia.Ukraine seems to think they can do better on their own and are fighting,and KILLING their Russian neighbors that are simply following orders,and vice versa.
When the US sends money,or equipment to the Ukraine we are basicly putting ourselves at War with the Russians. Because equipment with Made in the USA written on it is taking Russian lives.
And we wonder why the Russians would want to interfer in our elections? To cut off and stop the killing of their soilders by our money and guns.
DUH>
We need to tell Ukraine so long and stop poking the Bear.
Before the Bear bites our ass.

Another thing,this Ukraine aid thing, was this all setup by the democrats to start a war with Russia using Ukraine as Mercinarys? Hired guns? Kinda like the French foreign legion made up of Germans from the Nazi war machine?Not the best comparison but I am just trying ask,are the dems using the Ukrainians to do their dirty work?
By #610414 at 08,Feb,20 15:27
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The Trump administration has approved the largest U.S. commercial sale of lethal defensive weapons to Ukraine since 2014. The move was heavily supported by top Trump national security Cabinet officials and Congress but may complicate President Trump’s stated ambition to work with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Administration officials confirmed that the State Department this month approved a commercial license authorizing the export of Model M107A1 Sniper Systems, ammunition, and associated parts and accessories to Ukraine, a sale valued at $41.5 million. These weapons address a specific vulnerability of Ukrainian forces fighting a Russian-backed separatist movement in two eastern provinces. There has been no approval to export the heavier weapons the Ukrainian government is asking for, such as Javelin antitank missiles.Congress authorized such sales in 2014 in the Ukraine Freedom Support Act, but the Obama administration never authorized large commercial or government sales, a move widely seen as a de facto decision not to provide lethal weapons to the Ukraine military

AHHH, HOW IS THAT AGAIN????
By phart at 08,Feb,20 23:27 other posts of phart 
Sounds like he has a small swamp in his own camp to drain! sabatage by his own party making a decision like that.

By phart at 07,Mar,24 14:22 other posts of phart 
all this time has passed and has there been any positive changes? Nope, just less funding for American problems and our weapons stockpiles are strained.
By #610414 at 07,Mar,24 15:50
I guess you forget that the Taliban was being armed by Russian arms left when the USSR left Afghanistan and later with direct help
By phart at 07,Mar,24 20:56 other posts of phart 
And now have 1 of the most modern military's in the world because biden left everything for them. But so far , they havn't been a issue to anyone.None of the terrorism going on is by the taliwackers.
I think they were sincere when they said they just wanted us OUT so they could run their own country.
By #610414 at 08,Mar,24 13:42
How much do you think was left behind? What you suggest would mean Afghanis would take over Asia Minor and much of the Middle East.
By phart at 08,Mar,24 18:00 other posts of phart 
could perhaps but maybe they don't WANT TO.
And perhaps the Chinese came in and bought it since we held onto their country's money and left them broke and starving?
And now our enemys know more about us than we do?
By #610414 at 08,Mar,24 20:05
What was left is produced by several countries. Let it go, Phart, it's been a few years already.
By phart at 09,Mar,24 03:01 other posts of phart 
AH there you go! Forgetting history, forgetting the foundations of all the new problems and future problems .Why do liberals always want to let go of history? Do they enjoy repeating themselves?If you look at the big crash in 29, we are about in that same place again.people didn't learn from it. Don't read about it,don't think about it,may have never learned about because it probably is not taught in schools.








By DarkMax at 28,Mar,22 16:53 other posts of DarkMax 
Everyone can help Ukraine: /blogs/50282.html
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The National Bank of Ukraine has decided to open a special fundraising account to support the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The central bank’s decision comes after the Ukrainian government imposed martial law throughout Ukraine in response to armed aggression by Russia and the renewed threat to Ukraine’s independence and territorial integrity.

The number of the special account: UA843000010000000047330992708

This account accepts multiple currencies. It has been established and opened to receive transfers from international partners and donors in both foreign currency (U.S. dollars, euros, UK pounds) and hryvnias.

Also NBU Opens Fundraising Account for Humanitarian Assistance to Ukrainians Affected by Russia’s Aggression

The account is meant for charity contributions from Ukraine and from abroad. The Ministry of Social Policy will channel the raised funds to support Ukraine’s citizens severely affected by the war.

“Russian aggression deprived thousands of Ukrainians of their home, money, clothes, food, and other basic things. However, Ukraine and the rest of the world would not leave them alone with their grief. Financial support keeps coming both from the citizens of our country and from abroad. To streamline the inflows of funds as humanitarian aid to Ukrainians affected by the war, the NBU has opened an account for the Ministry of Social Policy to accumulate charitable contributions for social needs in wartime. Unlike the special account that has been opened to finance the needs of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, money from this account will be used to help those hardest-hit by the war with Russia,” - said the NBU Governor Kyrylo Shevchenko.

Money transferred to this account will be used by the Ministry of Social Policy:

to provide food and shelter for refugees and citizens that have been displaced due to military conflict
to provide clothing, shoes, and medicine for them
to buy staple goods for the population
to pay out one-off financial aid and to meet other essential needs of the population.

The number of the special account: UA823000010000032302338301027.

This account accepts multiple currencies. It has been established and opened to receive transfers from international partners and donors both in foreign currency (U.S. dollars, euros, British pounds) and from Ukrainian business and citizens in hryvnias.

Also you can make a contribution to the Return Alive Foundation:
IBAN Code (Euro): UA093052990000026004025029786
IBAN Code (US Dollars): UA173052990000026009035028620



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By #610414 at 20,Sep,21 22:26
Sir-Skittles
You are what remains from your whore Mama’s failed abortion


By #610414 at 19,Feb,20 22:46
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THE DAY DEMOCRACY DIED

A long long time ago
A Tuesday in November
When that sinking feeling laid us low
And we knew if he had his way
That we’d all live to curse the day
When decency received a fatal blow

His bankruptcies got no attention
Pussy-grabbing — barely mentioned
Promising a great wall
He swore to make tax rates fall


I still remember how I tried
To have sympathy for his third bride

But something rumbled deep inside
The day democracy died
, but...

No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
Vote for anyone but this guy

Is Putin the one to blame

‘Cause we all know it was not Ukraine
Who lost it by three million strong
And do you believe the shit he says
Repeated by Fox talking heads
We’re quite amazed they fell for such a con


All the red hats at his rallies cheer
But there must be something in the beer
‘Cause if they had a brain
Then they’d know this man’s insane


He was a loser bullied by his Dad

Kept bailing out his debts gone bad
He craved the love he never had

The day democracy died,
so now we’re singin’

No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
Vote for anyone but this guy

Every four years we all make a choice
And try to unite our divided voice

I guess that’s how it’s always been
Now we find ourselves in this crazy state

In a war to vote for love or hate
And we can’t ever let the darkness win


Oh, dictatorship was not our thing
But electors picked a tyrant king

Impeaches sure taste sweet
Oh but now that’s all history


‘Cause when Moscow Mitch gets on the case
Then honor’s gone without a trace
And we all prayed they’d be replaced
Before democracy dies,
now we’re singin’

No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
Vote for anyone but this guy

Face it, face it, he’s just a racist
And “white” is what he means by “greatest”
Rich and white is better, yes
A mobster with a crooked past
Who laundered condos for autocrats
But he can’t outrun the bloodhounds on his tracks


‘Cause the time keeps ticking like a fuse
Fifty-two percent are not amused
Too many to suppress
Who want a White House repossessed


Yeah, we know that right is on our side
And soon we’ll look back full of pride
Together we can reverse the tide
Before democracy dies
, now we’re singin’

No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
Vote for anyone but this guy

Oh, and when we’re alone in that booth

All generations, age and youth
The time has come to pick the one
So come on, search your heart and search your soul
Don’t flush our planet down a hole
For an orange ass who’s blotting out the sun


Oh, and as I watch him on a stage

His lips — they twist in fits of rage

Playing the victim well
He casts his creepy spell


And as conspiracies on Facebook flow
We flip the page and just say no
Because only sheep would watch that show

And let democracy die
, we’re all singin’

No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
Vote for anyone but this guy

I met a girl who chose him once
Now she regrets she played the dunce
And she’s a leading activist

I went down to the polling place
Saw lines for miles, all happy-faced

And the crowd there knows who they’re not gonna pick


And on the screens the pundits shriek
A slanted poll, an angry tweet
Hackers interfering
It’s too late for a hearing


Good thing you and I and all our friends
Now realize our life depends

On making sure this madness ends
Before democracy dies
, yeah we’re all singin’


No, don’t let democracy die
He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye
Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy

Vote for anyone but this guy,

we’re all singin’

No, don’t let democracy die

He’s a famous ignoramus — can’t tell truth from a lie
And if he wins we’ll kiss our country goodbye

Singin’ vote for anyone but this guy
By phart at 20,Feb,20 00:24 other posts of phart 
So what kind of song are you going to sing about BloomingidiotBurg trying to buy his way into the race?
He is suddenly Honest Abe? He somehow became worth BILLIONS of dollars without any foul play? Um. I don't know alot about him.I just know I am already sick of the pics of him hovering around Obammas ass like a fly. Gun control freak,thinks you should ban a large drink.Although any dumbass knows you can refill a medium size? DUH.He is on tv taking credit for things related to 911.He was not mayor until AFTER that happened.
By #610414 at 20,Feb,20 00:32
Why, Phart, he's not even president and you want me to sing about him? What's wrong with buying the election? Trump cheated to get his election. If you are sick now think how I feel about having to see that BOZO that's there now.
By phart at 20,Feb,20 14:46 other posts of phart 
well you can do the same thing I do,turn off the boob tube. I don't have to see our President to know he is doing ok,I can look around all the folkes living a better life then they were 4 years ago.
By #610414 at 20,Feb,20 15:10
You really think that? How can you tell? Do they have a new car? Paid off their mortgage? The whole family, including the kids find jobs at McDonald's? They get to go to Taco Bell once a week?
And the most important question. No matter how happy you are with the economy, perhaps other things, deep down, Is all of it worth the suffering this country and people are going through because of the style of governing by this president?
By phart at 20,Feb,20 21:36 other posts of phart 
eh,no jobs at micky D's. Good paying jobs like manufactors of fiber optic cable,military grade metals,and etc.
New roofs they had been putting off for years.New trucks, kids going to college,yep,things do look better around these parts.I have yet to see any suffering?

And I think even the democrats are scared of BloomingidiotBurg.From what I am reading here on the web,the canidates really chewed him up good last night.
When a socialist, and a grouchy old woman, a tiny town mayor and a grey haired old ex vice president are all scared of the billionaire at the stand, It is time to pay attention to what happens next.
By #610414 at 20,Feb,20 22:25
After what the media has been saying about him, I don't like him either.



By #591921 at 29,Feb,20 17:09
Well today reports came out that 6 weeks ago Trump requested 2.5 billion in funding for fighting the coronovirus but the house was to busy trying to get Trump out of office to pay it any attention until this week. Trump also place certain travel restrictions in place to and from China but the news just reported this as Trump being racist and as a distraction from impeachment. Now democrats want to blame Trump that they didn't approve the funding he requested weeks ahead of this pandemic spreading. So I suppose its Trumps fault that the house didn't vote,maybe he should have had a temper tantrum as Nancy would call it or possibly should have made more of a "distraction from impeachment" to get them to vote on the funding he requested a month and half ago.


By #591921 at 21,Feb,20 01:08
And just how did he cheat? Didn't you hear Mueller report. NO AMERICAN COLLUDED WITH RUSSIA. I guess you missed that $38 million dollar result huh. No collusion. But Hillary did cheat,she got the DOJ to command the FBI to wire tap the Trump campaign with a false report that George Soros paid GPS fusion for from a British intelligence officer ( oh by the way its illegal to use foreign intelligence in an election) and your never has done anything wrong walk on water president Obama knew about it being a fake and from a foreign country but took I to the FISA court and got a warrant to wire tap a presidential candidate.
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 01:44
dict on Robert Mueller’s Congress performance
US President Donald Trump's claim that he was "totally exonerated" by special counsel Robert Mueller was rejected by Mr Mueller in a hearing on Wednesday.

Mr Mueller said he had not exonerated Mr Trump of obstruction of justice.

The former FBI director spent two years probing alleged collusion between the 2016 Trump campaign and Russia, but did not establish collusion in a crime.

He concluded that Russia had interfered in the election with the intention of benefitting Mr Trump's campaign.

I'm not even going to post the link to this. Muller did an investigation. Half was true, half was false
I really don't care. And what's wrong with you? We are on the fourth year of Trumpo's presidency and you still bring up Obama and Hilary? Your man can't stand on his own? You are a fool and everyone else like you is too. You are still fighting the 2016 election. Well, he won and he got himself impeached.
By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 13:45
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HOW CAN YOU OBSTRUCT JUSTICE IF YOU HADN'T COMMITTED ANY CRIME...
lIBERALS ONLY SHIT ON THE FLOOR ANYWAY.. WHAT ARE THEY GOOD FOR AND NAME ONE THING IN 225 YEARS OF THEIR EXISTENCE OF HATE THAT THEY DID GOOD FOR AMERICA..




By #591921 at 21,Feb,20 03:57
Well Phart I just read an article in Capital research center that Botigieg paid Shadow inc. Off to screw the pooch in Iowa so he could declare he was winner so that he could get a surge in funding. He paid them to screw up the results. The company PAcronym. He needed a boost in funding and after he declared he was the winner of the Iowa caucuses he got donations galore. Turns out his campaign was nearly broke until Iowa. Elizabeth Warren is overspending on private jet to shuffle her around. And millionaire with three mansions Bernie was exposed that he is one of the wealthiest congress members by Bloomberg. So that leaves Uncle Joe who is part of the corruption in the Ukraine. And now they are all ditching out the dirt on each other left and right. Its hilarious how they all told on each other in the debate and now the ones who still have seats in Washington nigh lose them after all the dirt came out. To bad democrats are just too pissed off to actually debate anything about policies or issues right now its more about who is the dirtiest and who has done the worst things. Trump doesn't have to do anything but talk about issues when he debates whoever is voted as the least nasty liar out of the pack. I hope they have a debate now on every cable network,one a week would be great we could all find out just how dirty all of them are. And just how bad they lie. They claim Trumps the biggest liar in history. Last night each one of the democrats onstage have started a counter.Elizabeth Warren has the lead. So far she has been caught in 46 lies and that doesn't even count her claims she was an "American Indian" back in college. Hahaha

By #591921 at 23,Feb,20 15:47
Now this morning democrats all claim Russia is now trying to help Bernie win. Keep on truck in Soros. He also put a 1 million dollar reward out on Geoff Beck to have him taken out. Beck is a radio host who is independent and not party affiliated at all. He however has exposed the Soros control over media and 8 different ploys by Soros to lead democrats and control the vote and who is elected. Also the former director of homeland security who blew whistle on Obama Islamic agenda and his cash payments of millions to Iran was found shot dead in California yesterday in Pelosi district. He was not only exposed by democrats but also illegally fired by Obama after blowing the whistle on the cash payments to Iran.

By #591921 at 24,Feb,20 23:05
Well Phart looks like they are finally going after democrats and Obama admin. For lies to FISA court to get warrant to spy on Trump campaign. FBI uncovered that the AG under Obama lied on the application for the warrant. Now they are looking deeper into the Steele Dossier and irs origin and where it originated. Since they let Carter Page go without any charges he is now been approved to sue the democrats for millions. The lies on the application as it turns out are about collusion between Trump and the Russians. The democrats have tried to keep it quiet that Carter Page was clears of all charges and that he did not have any ties to Russians. He was clears 3 years ago but democrats have been referring to him as the known connection between Trump and Russia and are still claiming that there was collusion. Page finally got approval to be able to sue the DNC,Obama DOJ,and Hillary Clinton for setting him up and lieing on Fisa Court paperwork so they could spy on Trump campaign. The investigation has been in the hands of the FBI nut now will also need CIA agents because most of the information is from outside the US.


By #591921 at 21,Feb,20 00:56
Reported by American Wire publications Last nights debate scores Elizabeth Warren a super pac support. She agreed to accept donations from Persist Pac a communist super pac formed by socialist and communist activist. She also complained today on 6 media outlets that she is being shut down by misogynistic men and shut out of the media to silence her. Hahaha 6 media outlets in one day means your being shut out of the media by misogynist men huh? Go bitch elsewhere Pocahontas. Who said ill never take a super pac money. Hahaha
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 00:58
Putin backing Trump.
By #588327 at 21,Feb,20 10:55
I see you claiming everyone is working at fast food places and no good jobs. I know of some good paying job they can all get. Free training and the will get paid while training. You sure do worry about them fast food people. So ask them if they want a better paying jobs. I got a new car last year. Just for fun I got one of those robot vacuum cleaners. You see them yet. This little robot drives around the house and vacuum the floor. Then it go back to recharge. Do you think most people in the world have enough money to get one ?

I got some home automation stuff people can buy for home. A thermostat and some internet connect speakers and lights. I can turn lights on just by talking or change the thermostat temp. Now I just have the lights set to come on automatically at sunset. If I have to pay for someone else college education I would not have these thing.
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 12:14
Great. Tell us about this good paying job with on the job paid training. What's the name? Hey, every one will get a new car, a Rumba, Alexa, and appliances. Great, really great. Er, how do I get a quarter pounder at Mickey D's now?
Do you know the guy you'll be paying for the college tuition? Will you send him a monthly check or make direct payments to the college?
By #588327 at 21,Feb,20 14:52
You can't say their are no good paying jobs and everyone working fast food is stuck in the job. Then if they get a better job now nobody will be making the hamburgers. Not everyone will want to do the job. Because not everyone working fast food are victims of Trump or the economy. They choose not to move on for some reason.

I'll tell you about the job because I bet most people won't do it. They will choose the fast food job because is more easy and less hours. The job is Truck Driver. They have free training and will pay them during training. You will work 70 hours a week and live and sleep on the job. You will work 3-6 weeks. It pays lots more then fast food. Most people won't do the job. Training for the job pays more then fast food job.

So you should tell them to get out of that fast food job. I can tell you of some companies that need driver and will train then if they are really interested. Here the thing. It Friday morning, do you think I'll be home this weekend or working ?? I don't know myself. That how the job works and why I get paid lots more then fast food. They will pay ME not to work. If they don't get me home. I get paid regular pay, plus I get $100 extra not to work on Sunday. They are going to pay me $100 not to work. They need more drivers are willing to pay. Let see who want out of that fast food job.
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 16:58
I didn't say that, but, lets do some research because I've got several long distance driver friends. Truck driving had gotten really lucrative. The reason was that there was a shortage of drivers. People did not want to drive a rig for 16 hrs or more( yeah, I know about the daily time limit and how log books are altered), be away from home for days, and work weekends and holidays. Those that accepted the work made good money. After some drive time they were able to clear between $50k and $70k. All well and good, but, Mr Trump came along.

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Truckers voted for Trump in droves. Now they say his trade war is 'killing' their ability to make a living.

Morris Coffman has been a truck driver for 35 years. And he's been a conservative for even longer than that — his whole life.

"That said," Coffman told Business Insider, "[Trump] is absolutely a moron. His idiotic ideas will tank the economy even further."

Truckers, like Coffman, lean conservative. A Verdant Labs analysis of Federal Elections Commission data found that nearly three-quarters of truck drivers are Republican — one of the most conservative jobs in America, along with surgeons and farmers.

But a sharp downturn in the trucking industry and a slew of tax changes have hampered their ability to make a living. And many connect those two trends to Trump's economic policies.

Trump's tax reworking in 2017 led to many truck drivers having to pay hundreds in taxes this year, thanks to a change in per-diem laws. Dennis Bridges, an accountant who specializes in doing taxes for truckers, told Mother Jones in April that 75% of his clients saw an unusually large tax payment, and about 20% had to fork over more than $5,000.

That might've been bearable in 2018, when trucking capacity was tight, the industry was raking in cash, and truckers saw their pay jump. But now the trucking "bloodbath," as Coffman and other truckers describe current transportation conditions, has meant low rates and low pay for truckers. Trucking has been in a recession since late 2018.

NOW, I CAN SEE YOU SAYING, "FAKE NEWS" BUT THERE'S ARTICLE AFTER ARTICLE SAYING SO. AND, MORE IMPORTANT, MANY LARGE TRUCKING COMPANIES GOING BANKRUPT OR OUT OF BUSINESS. I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. IF YOU ARE HAPPY, MORE POWER TO YOU. IF OTHERS PREFER TO STAY BURGER FLIPPERS, THAT'S THEIR CHOICE. BUT THINK ABOUT THIS. THE GREAT MAJORITY OF FAST FOOD EMPLOYEES ARE STUDENTS AND SINGLE MOTHERS. THIS LAST GROUP WOULD HAVE A HARD TIME BEING AWAY FOR DAYS AT A TIME WHILE HER KIDS ARE IN SCHOOL AND A CAREGIVER
By phart at 21,Feb,20 17:45 other posts of phart 
shortage of drivers because not enough people can pass the damn drug test.
Much as I dispise railroad workers attitudes, that is a good line of work to.pays well.and no real hard work.
Sometimes the hourly wage is not what people should look at.
A lower hourly wage,say 12 instead of 16,would turn most folks to the 16.But then, the 12 dollar a hour person has paid vacation and sick leave and insurance.All that the 16 per hour person has to pay more for out of pocket or does not have.
If I were coming out of high school right now, I would probably head for the oil industry out west.Putting in pipeines or drilling. Hard work but pays well.
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 17:50
So true, baby.
By #588327 at 21,Feb,20 21:47
The Trump tax law change that most driver complain about was the Per Diem change. Now O/O could still claim it. Company drive can still get it if the trucking company pays it. All they have to do is a little different in payroll and driver still gets it. Most driver did not understand it, even trucking companies. So a good company today will pay Per Diem. They don't actually pay it. They just take it off your payroll so it not taxed money. Then they add it back at Per Diem tax free money. They have to have little program to count the days driver get Per Diem. So drivers that did not understand how it works all claimed they were paying more taxes. Some probably did pay more. Hopefully by now they understand how the Trump taxes change and work for a company that pays Per Diem.

O/O get to claim Per Diem and they get a new 20% pass thru tax off the top or something like that. I would have look that one back up. The rates for trucking was the best in like 50 year for 2017 and 2018. So they have to go down back to normal rates.

I'm making some of the best money ever in trucking. I got pay raise, the trucking company is looking to expand the fleet even today they want more drivers. I have made more money every year for the last 3 years. So the idea the Trump is killing trucking it not true. I did not get $5,000 tax increase

You are correct someone with kids would probably not want to drive a truck. That's their choice. Someone flipping burgers, may not want to drive a truck. It's their choice, but they are not stuck in a fast food job. They can't blame Trump for that. They should not claim we now have pay for their health insurance because they flip burgers. How about they get a better job that pays better just like me ? People should be able to tell us how much national heath care will cost. If it's close to what I'm paying now for heath insurance maybe we can do this. But if its a crazy number because we are going to insure everyone and people want to keep flipping burgers without heath insurance. Then I'm not paying for them or voting for someone who keep say claiming it's not big tax increase. They are talking like 2 or 3 Trillion a year tax increase. If your flipping burgers at minimum wage it not a problem. If your making ok money driving a truck that can get expensive.
By #610414 at 21,Feb,20 22:58
Let's start with the basic problem. A woman (it can be a man too) who graduates from high school and comes from a low income family usually is expected to get work. The choices for her are, clerical, retail or hospitality. In all three they start at the bottom at minimal wage. As women, they usually don't think construction, professional driver, welder, auto mechanic any more than a man thinkind hair dresser, nail tech, nurse, or care giver. Social mores prevent that. Some few individuals break through that barrier, but very few. So, getting back to these people, once they are in the rat race, it becomes almost impossible to change course. Imagine you, working paycheck to paycheck, taking six weeks to get your CDL licence. Or 18 months to become a nurse. Usually, once they are in that life, they are there for life. But, being human beings with human desires, they fall in love, get married and have kids. The pregnancies are hard both medically(they have to work till the last possible munite) and financially. Having a child is very expensive, even with health insurance. But, they muddle through, but the strain is much. Arguments start. He walks out and even if he tries to help, he can't support himself and give money to his ex. What is she supposed to do? Give the kids up for adoption? She applies for food stamps, free school lunches, medicaid, anything that will give her some help.
Ok, granted, you are not to blame personally, but, in a general way, you are. Did you know that most of these people can not afford the insurance the employer offers? But, the minute they get medicade and they are in the Wick program, they get it for free. It's not as flexible as private insurance, but, guess what? YOU ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR IT.
My question is, "Why not fix Obama-Care or get something similar and provide this for everyone. The ones that can afford to pay a monthly premiunm does and the ones that can't don't.
By phart at 22,Feb,20 02:21 other posts of phart 
Ocare needs fixing BAD
Question is,where do you draw the lines on who can afford premiums and who can't? Think about this.a fellow making 12 bucks a hour and gets insurance is told he will no longer get the company insurance. Ooops,suddenly, he has to go to Ocare, It turns out to be expsensive but,with his income he gets a break and it is free!. Well the 16 dollar a hour guy down the street suddenly has to pay 400 a month! He would be tempted to take a pay CUT to get the free insurance would he not?
if 10 people need insurance,and 5 are paying x amount of dollars for all 10,would it not be fair to divide it all up evenly? All 10 pay the same?
By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 02:46
Don't you think that would be a personal choice? Right now, to get food stamps or medicaid, you submit your monthly expenses and your income. The amount of help is calculated on a sliding scale taking into account the local cost of living. Electricity and other utilities, medical/meds costs,and transportation for work are accepted expenses. In other words, goings out to dinner doesn't count. It's a fair way and insurance could be the same way. You keep trying to say it would be fair for some and not others. You are, at all cost, insinuating that most people will cheat the system and you will be left holding the bag. My Dad taught me to believe in people. To give to people in need without expecting a thanks or anything in return. To believe in the honesty of people. It's served me well throughout mylife.
By phart at 22,Feb,20 13:35 other posts of phart 
Most people sorda fit the trustworthy catogory but as you should know,it only takes a few to screw things up.


By #591921 at 22,Feb,20 04:42
Yeah Phart I've seen lots of roofs go on old empty houses being flipped I've flipped four myself. The plant here can't hire enough people have 60 available positions listed help wanted signs in every store. The nursery has 30 positions open. Construction going on all over additions,roofs,remodels,new cars. Can't keep up with the Jeep place. They can't keep jeeps on the lot. Go by in the morning come back that afternoon five are sold. Chevy place if you see something on the lot you want better pull in or it might be gone the next day. Grocery stores have help needed signs up. Department stores too. WalMart parking lot you have to park out by the highway and walk to get to the store because the place is full. People buying tvs,microwaves,electronics,intapots,clothes,watches. Guys aren't standing on the corners all night and day. I live near a car wash and it stays full with people washing and cleaning those new cars trucks and jeeps. The owner told me business is up 300%. Convenient stores guy near me said he has made more money since Trump took office than he made the last 20 years there. And he is middle eastern. People are buying houses around here faster than they can be flipped.5 empty houses in my neighborhood have sold. A few blocks away 3 more. Realtor says they sell couple of houses a week here. Farms are hiring on average 6 people a week. Things are booming. Only places that sells are slow is the used car lots most folks are buying new so used sales are down. Three commercial buildings have sold for new businesses moving in expecting to employ 30-40 people each. Marijuana plant just built 5 new buildings and bought 3. A new laundry mat being built. Furniture store making record sales for its history here. 3 new businesses planning to come in and hire 150 people and pay $18 an hour. Marijuana plants are paying $12-$16 an hour. Lots of growth.
By phart at 22,Feb,20 13:37 other posts of phart 
Yea in a nearby town I know of about 8 empty houses that were in a 2 block area,all bought and being fixed as I type.
There is money coming from somewhere,and it was NOT there before Trump came along as things were falling down.
I am hopeing the cost of a used Dodge Magnum with 5.7 hemi and all wheel drive comes down to a point I can get 1 in about 4 more years.
By #591921 at 23,Feb,20 15:38
Former director of homeland security who blew whistle on Obama Islamic agenda and cash payments to Iran found shot dead in California in Pelosi district yesterday.


By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 13:55
It's undeniable. The Florida Panhandle are is going through a boom that started in 2017. Large developers are investing large amounts of money to turn around a moribund economy. This boom is trickling down to the work force. Overeight, congratulations. I believe you said you lived in that area? This is good. What I don't believe and what many economists assert is that Trump is not responsible for this. You may wish to deny this and vote for Trump in the 2020 elections (that's your right), however, the economy is not the only issue to address with a new administration. Even if he makes every person in America rich, he's still a sexual pervert, a wife cheater, an obstructionist, a liar, and a cheat. Not for me. I rather be poor.
By phart at 22,Feb,20 14:56 other posts of phart 
And Kennedy didn't disappear for hours at the time in his personal Lincoln convertiable leaving the secret service scrambling tryin to find him as he was off fucking someone besides his wife? I saw his car in the mueseum,and got the story on it.It was sitting beside Bill Clintons Mustang.Both similar color of blue. Bill was getting a blow job in the white house as folks waited for him to attend important meetings. several of the eary presidents owned slaves,like Thomas Jefferson.
I could go on for hours if I did some research because there has NEVER been a saint in the White house.
By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 15:12
But, Phart, under your reasoning A serial murderer should be forgiven because Bundy and Gacy did it too. Why would I be concerned about the Kennedy brothers, Big Willie Clinton, or whomever. Why should I care if Washington, Adams, and Jefferson owned slaves? I live in the present and worry about the FUTURE. Yes, you could go on for hours, but, what would it solve? Instead of wasting your breath, tell me why I should ignore what this PRESENT president is guilty off? Come on. You guys are always bringing examples of bad behavior by others. Excuse HIS BAD BEHAVIOR on his merit. Why is it ok for him to grab women's pussies without asking permission? Why was it ok for him to cheat on his pregnant wife with a porn star? Why was it ok to pay off the same porn star to stay quiet on the eve of the 2016 election? Why did he do a Quid-pro-Quo with a foreign government? Why does he feel it's ok to lie so much no one believes him anymore? Why did he do everything he could to stop his impeachment trial to be a fair one? I'm waiting on your response, not on the Kennedys, not on Big Willie. On Trump.
By #588327 at 22,Feb,20 17:47
Your personal opinion is just that. You act like your personal opinion is somehow special. If you don't like Trump don't vote for him. They did not remove Trump from office because they did not have enough proof. So why not stop complaining about that. Like YOU said stop living in the past the impeachment stuff failed. So now move on.
By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 20:55
No. They did not remove him from office because the trial was a sham. And everything I listed is true, not an opinion. I'm not voting for him. I'd rather cut my hand off with a dull knife. My personal opinion is given when I can't prove something, but it's just as valid as yours or anyone else's. And you shouldn't talk as you spout lots of Trumpo's accomplishments without a lick of proof.


By phart at 22,Feb,20 19:14 other posts of phart 
Just as it is not "OK" to ignore the good he has done.
So suddenly,just because you don't like this particular President,we should expect different behavior from him as opposed to previous 1's? You have ignored Fast and Furious,Bengazzi,and etc but suddenly,now that a pres is in there you don't like,the standards should change? Um, strange,where have you lived your whole life? where was all these morals about cheating on wives when Clinton did it? ETC.
It all goes back to the double standard thing.As long as it is a democrat doing it is ok, but let the conservitive do it,and it is WRONG.Bull shit,just plain bull shit.
By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 21:35
First, you don't know what my reaction was to those past events so don't place me were you don't know anything about. I'm going to ask you AGAIN. If you have any BALLS left, perhaps, just perhaps, you can be honest and answer these.

You guys are always bringing examples of bad behavior by others. Excuse HIS BAD BEHAVIOR on his merit. Why is it ok for him to grab women's pussies without asking permission? Why was it ok for him to cheat on his pregnant wife with a porn star? Why was it ok to pay off the same porn star to stay quiet on the eve of the 2016 election? Why did he do a Quid-pro-Quo with a foreign government? Why does he feel it's ok to lie so much no one believes him anymore? Why did he do everything he could to stop his impeachment trial to be a fair one? I'm waiting on your response, not on the Kennedys, not on Big Willie. On Trump.--------------------------------------- added after 5 minutesNO MATTER IF THE LAST 44 PRESIDENTS ACTED BADLY. WE ARE NOT ON THEIR DIME. WE ARE ON TRUMP TIME NOW. GROW SOME COJONES, BOTH OF YOU. STOP ATTACKING MY OPINIONS. STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT JOHNNY DID IT TOO. STOP TELLING ME THAT IT'S OK BECAUSE YOUR POCKETS ARE BETTER OFF. JUST ANSWER THE FUCKING QUESTIONS,,,,,,,W I T H-------- F U C K I N G------- P R O O F.
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By phart at 22,Feb,20 23:01 other posts of phart 
I answered the fucking question.
You ask why is it ok this and that and I told you. The others set a presedent and to expect Trump or anyone else to suddenly do different is a double standard.
The pussys he grabbed were of women putting themselves on the "casting couch" for fame and fortune,they only suddenly gave a damn when they thought they could cause damage.Had Trump never ran for President,we would have never known or remembered it.
Who says he cheated on his wife? That has been porn star he gave some money to sign a contract to shut up and get out of his hair? What crediablity has she got? Or did you miss it last week on the news about her former lawyer that represented her getting in Big trouble for trying to goug Nike out of a bunch of money? So if she hired or fucked that snake to get him to work for her,that sheds a light on how crediable her words are.Also considering she made good money off her Make America horny again tour or whatever it was. Why do we need to send money and weapons to a corrupt country without some questions answered? If he did quid pro quo,it was in the best interest of the tax payer.
Why did he get involved in his impeachment? He didn't want his staff being drug thru the mud like he was.So he Ordered them to stay out of it. IF they got drug thru the mud it was becaus they disobeyed orders.
I have balls, if I didn't I would be like some of the other assholes that just call you names and or ignore you.
I honestly don't know what kind of a answer you are looking for. You should be able to add things up,figure things out,I mean you are using a computer,you obviously know how to google, use those skills to LEARN another side of the story besides the fantasy island you live on.

Oh wait, "De plane,De plain!"

You know,straight up,I am begining to think Maby,now I am saying Maby, YOU may be part of the interference into our Elections.Your post and other similar on other websites and forums are what spread hatred and misguide people into making bad desicions. I doubt this is the case,but it is odd how you bounce in and out like a butterfly,make a stink and run.Come back under another name and so on.
By #610414 at 22,Feb,20 23:17
The others set a presedent and to expect Trump or anyone else to suddenly do different is a double standard.
FOR REAL? SO BAD IS OK IF SOMEONE ELSE DID IT FIRST? WHY DO YOU COMPLAIN IF FOOD STAMP RECIPIENTS CHEAT? OTHERS DID IT BEFORE.
NEVER MIND, BABY. IF YOUR MIND CAN'T GET AROUND IT, IT'S A WASTE OF TIME TRYING TO EXPLAIN. YOUR BRAIN IS IN DENIAL OR YOU DON'T CARE FOR THE RULE OF LAW IF IT DOESN'T AGREE WITH YOUR IDEAS. MY FANTASY ISLAND IS SHARED BY MORE THAN HALF OF THIS COUNTRY AND THE REASON HIS APPROVAL RATING IS IN THE LOW 40%. ARE YOU GOING TO QUESTION THIS AGAIN. THERE'S TWO SIDS TO A STORY, BUT, LET ME REMIND YOU, ONLY ONE SIDE IS THE TRUTH. HISTORY WILL TELL.
By phart at 23,Feb,20 00:23 other posts of phart 
NOPE, 3 sides, the truth,and each person involved's story.
I can wrap my head around the law and such.It just seems mighty strange that folks have sat back thru all these years and just SUDDENLY they want their president to act like a saint.Although they sat back while ALL others smoked dope on top of the white house and so on.All that is water under the bridge.Now that Trump is in,lets change the standard,lets hold HIM to a higher standard than ALL others before him. Yea,that sure makes sense.Politicly motivated anger is all it is.The dems didn't get the wicked witch in office and they are still throwing tantrams.
By #591921 at 26,Feb,20 19:14
Phart Bernie Sanders as much as I hate to agree with him about anything he nailed it on the head last night in his post debate interview. He said why is it I can make the exact same statements about the same exact thing that Obama did when he was president and just because I'm an old white guy I get torn to shreds over it. I get raked through the coals. All I said about Castro and other communist leaders is the exact same thing Obama said about them but I'm being criticized for saying it and he was praised. Why is that?
By phart at 29,Feb,20 19:25 other posts of phart 
Bernies tv ad last night said he wants to legalize pot. That would be enough for most decent Americans to turn away from him right there.


By #591921 at 28,Feb,20 05:36
Betsy Devos uncovered a mock college that was accredited and received accreditation under Obama admin. The college named Reagan university in Souix falls was when checked by FBI agents an old dilapidated abandoned building completely locked up and has been for many years. However it never once in its history ever had one employee in its faculty and not one student ever but received millions under Obama admin. In student loans and millions in grant money for research and received millions in government funding for facilities and construction and upgrades. Many universities that opened under Obama admin. And received millions in student loans during the time he was president closed shortly after Trump won the election but can't prove they ever actually had one single graduate who received a degree from those colleges. The FBI is currently investigating all of these colleges,their existence and findings and checking student loans for validity.





By #591921 at 27,Feb,20 04:31
Today an ABC veteran reporter was fired after a secretly recorded conversation he had with someone was released. He admitted on hidden camera that the entire goal of the associated press media outlets was to make the public hate Trump and only report and insinuate anything negative that you can about Trump. He was also caught saying we aren't even allowed to report one good thing that he has done without being reprimanded and fined or suspended. Said he has done lots of great things for the country even though I dont like him. He created so many jobs,peoples pay is going up and people have more to look forward to but I am only allowed by my job to only report against him like he us the devil. Its like we are the voice of the democrats now and he not only has to fight the fake things the democrats are trying to set him up and take him down on but we have to report lies to the public to make them believe the democrats,its so wrong I feel like a snake in the grass or dirty slimeball. Its just so unfair that we can't report the truth. This was reported today on the independent online paper. So like I said the associated press and media are part of a plot to try and take Trump down any way they can.


By #591921 at 26,Feb,20 19:08
Oh yeah and his impeachment hearing in the house was fair right. If it was so fair lets ask this. Why was his lawyers not allowed in the secrecy questionings in the basement,why were no Republicans allowed in. Why did Adam Schiff make a statement the first day saying they were not allowed to say Burisma and any time they wanted to respond to Burisma it must be substituted with the Bidens. Why were the Republicans not allowed responses in the hearing. Why did they write the articles of impeachment one day before Trumps lawyers were scheduled to have their turn questioning witnesses. Why was Adam Schiff allowed to have a private meeting with the whistleblower before they blew the whistle and allowed to control the hearing and allowed to testify. How many times have you ever seen a Judge get down off the bench and testify in a trial they wet providing over,ill bet never. You know why,because that constitutes bias. So they didn't allow any rebuttal,the judge presiding testified and ran the hearing,and had secret meeting with witness,secret meetings and testimony by all witnesses without allowing defense questioning or rebuttal. How could they not succeed with impeachment stacking the deck against Trump like that. It was completely crooked and underhanded. Then they claimed it was imperative to impeach him so fast that they held the impeachment for 31 days before they sent it to the senate because they wanted to control the senate hearing and not allow defense or rebuttal by Trumps lawyers again. In any court anywhere in America if your not allowed a lawyer,not allowed to defend and not allowed to rebutt anything at all your automatically guilty. All your allowed to do is sit there on your hands tape on your mouth and hear them lie about how guilty you are. Thats pretty much exactly how his hearing in the house went. And they want to claim his hearing in the senate was unfair because he was allowed lawyers and allowed to argue points and allowed a defense. I watched every house hearing and every senate testimony. The only one that was fair was the one in the senate.
By #610414 at 26,Feb,20 21:06
Oh yeah and his impeachment hearing in the house was fair right. If it was so fair lets ask this. Why was his lawyers not allowed in the secrecy questionings in the basement,why were no Republicans allowed in.


White House counsel Pat Cipollone falsely suggested Republicans were barred from the closed-door depositions conducted by the House intelligence committee. But members of three committees — both Democrats and Republicans — participated.
Jay Sekulow, President Donald Trump’s attorney, falsely said, “During the proceedings that took place before the Judiciary Committee, the president was denied the right to cross-examine witnesses … the right to access evidence and … the right to have counsel present at hearings.” The committee chair invited Trump and his lawyers to participate, but they declined.

YOU REFER TO THIS AS A TRIAL. THIS WAS NOT A TRIAL. THIS WAS THE EQUIVALENT OF A GRAND JURY. IT'S WERE A DETERMINATION IS MADE ON WEATHER A CRIME MAY HAVE BEEN COMMITTED. IN A GRAND JURY INVESTIGATION, THE PROSECUTOR RUNS IT AS HE SEES FIT. THE OBJECT OF THE INVESTIGATION HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF DURING THE TRIAL (THE SENATE).
The constitutional right to a lawyer comes from the Sixth Amendment, but it only guarantees a lawyer in criminal proceedings – usually after a defendant has been indicted or otherwise charged with a crime.

CHECK IT OUT WITH NATIONAL JURISPRUDENCE. SO, SCHIFT WAS RIGHT, EVERYONE ELSE IS FULL OF SHIT.
NOW, HOW MANY TRIALS HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WHERE THE JUDGE (McCONNELL), BEFORE THE START OF THE TRIAL, DECLARES THAT HE WILL NOT ALLOW THE DEFENDANT TO BE FOUND GUILTY? HOW MANY TRIALS HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT WERE THE PROSECUTOR CAN NOT BRING WITNESSES OR EXHIBITS? I HAVE NOT HEARD OF ONE.
NOW, IF HE WAS INNOCENT, WHY DID THEY FEAR WITNESSES AND EXHIBITS? AFTER ALL, HE HAD A ROOM FULL OF LAWYERS AND SENATORS THAT PROMISED NOT TO CONVICT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES?

OVEREIGHT. THE TRIAL WAS NOT A FAIR ONE. YOU KNOW IT, I KNOW IT, THE SENATE KNOWS IT AND THE AMERICAN PEOPLE KNOW IT, BUT, SADLY, IF YOU OWN THE SENATE, OWN THE JUDICIARY, AND EVERYONE IS CHICKEN TO STAND UP TO CORRUPTION, WELL, THEN HE'LL GET OFF EVERY TIME. WHICH BRINGS ME TO THE FOLLOWING. IF HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY, WHY ARE YOU STILL BEMOANING THE IMPEACHMENT? IS THIS LIKE "LET'S BLAME OBAMA AND HILARY" CRAP?















By #591921 at 23,Feb,20 02:46
Yeah right I guess you didn't complain when they helped Bill Clinton,you didn't complain when they helped Obama and you didn't complain when they helped Jimmie Carter. So why are you complaining about them helping Trump. They have been interfering in every election for over 40 years. The only reason democrats are complaining now is because George Soros is pitching a temper tantrum. Thats why he has demanded Mark Zuckerburg and Sheryl Sandberg be removed from Facebook because they decided to stop banning conservative post. They now are claiming Putin paid Zuckerburg off to help Trump win in 2020. Truth is both of them donated maximum amounts to Hillary. However they also decided that people should actually be allowed their constitutional right to free speech and little Georgie doesn't like it. He can't control what people post on their on facebook pages and true information is finally able to get out and around without being reported by the biased associated press. Democrats hate that Facebook,yahoo and all social media sites can't block someone's political opinion. They can't shut Americans down from speaking their own minds. Truth is they now have lawsuits against Yahoo,Facebook,Fox news and 32 other conservative publications for printing the truth and people being able to voice their on opinions to the public the same way the associated press gets info out,now people can get their info out. Being able to control the press and what the public is allowed to know has always been the biggest advantage the democrats have had since Soros bought those 200 plus newspapers and got control 90% of the media in the US. But people don't wait and only watch ABC,NBC,CBS,CNN,MSNBC,CNBC and all the other cable news. Now people can actually go online and look up their own media outlets or get them sent to their emails or read any conservative outlet they want to access. So Soros no longer has control of the media and control of peoples minds like he used to. People aren't his puppets anymore they can make up their own minds and not only follow his biased outlets. Its actually freedom of the press and free speech now. Not you can only know this and if you speak your mind its treason. So if all you do is follow associated press outlets its all carbon copies of the same news written different but same old story. Now people have the right to read whatever news they are interested in and he can't control it. That means now those stories about how crooked democrats can get out just like it can about conservative politicians.
By #610414 at 23,Feb,20 03:03
I guess you have nightmares about Soros. I wonder why? He's super rich and supports liberal ideas. That must be it. To you everything is a conspiracy. Well, if that's your opinion then it must be so. Woe is me. I've been manipulated all my life. I was not as smart as you to resist the black hand of the press. Thank you for fighting for us. Now, I'll go to bed.
By #588327 at 23,Feb,20 12:28
Look at the economy, you don't want to give Trump the credit. It seems you hate Trump so much you won't give him the credit for the economy or you really believe this is Obama ?

You won't answer the hard questions. We will put you in charge. So tell us how much money national heath care will cost? How are you going to pay for it ? If you are going taxes people or corporation. I don't think that's a good idea but it depends on how much more we have to pay.

If you want cut government spending or other programs to pay for it. That something I could go for. I already know the answer is nobody want their favorite government program cut. If you think you can list the ones you will cut to pay for national heath care.
By #610414 at 24,Feb,20 00:20
It's true, the economy is doing well, but During 2014 under Obama it was doing better. And the DOW has been climbing steadily since 2010 except in 2019 when, due to the trade wars it had a few wobbles.
THE COST IS NOT EASY TO GET EXACT. BUT HERE'S A GOOD ESTIMATE FOR MEDICARE FOR ALL AS BERNIE SANDERS PRESENTED IT IN 2017
"In addition, former Social Security and Medicare Trustee and current Mercatus Center fellow Chuck Blahous estimated that Medicare for All as proposed in Senator Sanders's 2017 legislation would cost the federal government $27.7 trillion through 2028 assuming steep provider cuts and $32.1 trillion assuming no provider cuts (these estimates, like most others, assume immediate implementation).
THESE COSTS ARE SPREAD OUT OVER A 10 YR PERIOD. YOU CAN READ IT HERE
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HERE'S SOMETHING INTERESTING,
"The totals also do not represent debt impact, which would depend not only on the cost to the federal government but also on any funds the government might choose to raise through premiums, taxes, or both. For example, Senator Sanders's campaign plan included roughly $11 trillion of tax increases, which COULD FUND MORE THAN ONE THIRD of Medicare for All."
By #588327 at 24,Feb,20 01:54
That about the same number I hear. So 27.7 Trillion for 10 year is 2.7 Trillion a year. How are we going to pay for that ? Don't say corporation tax or something that can change because corporation can move or they can just add the tax on to the stuff they sell. So we end up paying the 2.7 trillion. Let's just all pay for it or cut some government programs to come up with 2.7 Trillion.

I did a quick Google search and it say in 2018 we had 156 million people working in USA. That's $17,300 per working person. We can taxes the really rich people more. At $17,300 that's almost Six time what I'm paying now.

If Sanders compaign plan is 11 Trillion more in taxes. I don't know were that money is coming from. I guess Corp taxes. You can tax corporations and the people. I don't see how anyone can afford it. Just looking at we are 22 trillion in the hole and can't even pay that back yet and we refuses to balance the budget. Adding even more sound impossible. That cazy, it so complicated you can't tell me how much we have to pay or percentage of taxes increase. $17,300 is more then I want to pay, so people can flip burgers and have free health insurance. Just make them get job like me or a different job that include some heath care. I don't think you can afford this idea. Maybe if we cut the illegals and their kid out of the heath care syatem we can bring the price down some.
By #610414 at 24,Feb,20 13:54
IF WE HAVE MEDICARE FOR ALL, THESE PROGRAMS BELOW WILL NOT BE NEEDED. LOOK AT THEIR ACTUAL COST IN 2018. NOW, I'M NOT SO NAIVE AS TO THINK THERE WON'T BE SOME EXTRAS TO PAY FOR. THE GOVERNMENT BEING THE GOVERNMENT, THEY'LL FIND A WAY TO FUCK UP SOME PART OF IT, BUT, IT'S DOABLE.

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National Health Expenditure grew 4.6% to $3.6 trillion in 2018, or $11,172 per person, and accounted for 17.7% of Gross Domestic Product (GDP).

Medicare spending grew 6.4% to $750.2 billion in 2018, or 21 percent of total NHE.

Medicaid spending grew 3.0% to $597.4 billion in 2018, or 16 percent of total NHE.
By #588327 at 26,Feb,20 02:32
So if we just dump Medicare and Medicaid we are looking at 3.6 Trillion to cover everyone. They seem to say it would be $11,172 per person. That means they are saying their is 327 million people in USA. That all sounds about right to me. I would have guessed the 2.7 Trillion would have covered everyones, 3.6 Trillion is a lot of money. The problem is not everyone is working to pay their $11,172 part.

So we have to pay it for them. Their are about 160 million people working in the USA in 2018. 327 million-160 million is 167 million people we have pay for. Their are more people taking the heath care money then are paying into the system.

167 million at $11,172 is 1.9 Trillion the working people have cover or makup for. That $1.9 Trillion by 160 million people employed in 2018 is $11,800 extra/ more taxes per working person we need to pay to cover the 3.6 Trillion bill.

Do you think that's asking to much ? See if we force them to work jobs like mine or yours then we don't have to pay so much money. We just need to FORCE them to work Ha Ha. Just the idea their are more people taking from the system then paying doesn't seem fair.
By #610414 at 26,Feb,20 03:13
There's a fallacy to your numbers. The $11172/person is the average cost per head. The real cost per worker is $22500. But, even this amount is drastically wrong. You are assuming that this is paid strictly by the individual citizen. Huge amounts (not enough yet) are paid by the businesses of this country.
By #588327 at 26,Feb,20 12:00
It's still the same amount of money in the end. Part of the problem is we try and hide the cost. We don't see the real price of heath insurance. When we don't know the real price people think we can just give everyone Heath insurance. It's only $60 a week. So why can't we pay for everyone, right ? Because like you point out it really a lot more. It really 3.9 Trillion or $11,172 per person. The people that are getting the free heath insurance today. Don't even think about it. They don't get a bill or anything. They just sign up and the government covers their health insurance

When people don't know the real price or don't care they probably think, let give everyone free health insurance. The rich people can pay or the government can pay for it. The business can pay for it. Once you take personal responsibility out of the deal. People don't care or even think about it. People don't care about the price anymore because they don't pay anything. The system get bigger and bigger and out of control and so complicated we can't even figure out wear the money is going. Then we start to get more people 167 million taking the free heath care and only 160 million people paying for it. The system will fail because the benefits are better then working. We also don't put ant limits on the health insurance. So people say cover all the illegals and their kids. When it really $11,172 for everyone we give free health care to.
By #610414 at 26,Feb,20 14:07
But, aren't we paying a lot more in private insurance?
look at these figures for 2016, and remember, there was no national, single payer insurance program.

Last year, America’s total medical costs hit a new record of $3.4 trillion, according to the federal government. That’s about 18 percent of the country’s total GDP, meaning that one out of every six dollars we spent in 2016 went to health care. The national doctor bill dwarfs anything else we spend money on, including food, clothing, housing, or even our mighty military.

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Yes, we are trying to include everyone, but, aren't illegals and uninsured still treated in emergency rooms? Don't say no because my whole 25 yr career has been in hospitals and primarily in the ER. The costs show up in different ways. What these proposals are proposing is to consolidate all bills to one place. Why is that so hard to swallow?
By #588327 at 27,Feb,20 03:04
The hard part to swallow is the price. We are spending more money they we are paying into the system. You want me and another people to pay for them. I don't want to pay for illegals and the people scamming the health care system. Part of the problem will illegals is they go to the hospital and we have to pay for it.

I know of a older guy that gets pain pills. Then he sells the them for the money.

I have solution to the problem. How about we force any business that hire employees to pay the $11,172 average national health car cost. No matter what your job is the business will pay the national health care average cost per person. Then they can pay you regular pay what every that is. So someone flipping burgers will have free heath care just because they have a job. So they will want to work. The business will add that price the the hamburger or anything they sell.

Here is the good part. I can decide if I want to pay that price for a hamburger or anything. I won't be forced to pay out of my hard work. I can even have my 401k and not have some cazy tax on it. I won't care if they have illegals working for them because they will have health insurance. Just because they are working.

You can't just take away money from other people because you think is a good reason. I'm not paying for illegals or some lazy person who want to party on the weekend when I'm working. If people want to make me a hamburger and fries and include their health care and personal pay in that price. That ok, because I can choose if I really want that hamburger and fries.

If you think the government should just take money from people then I will tell the government you should pay a lot more taxes because you can afford it. Your rich
By #610414 at 27,Feb,20 03:38
That 1st paragraph was entertaining. You said,
"Part of the problem will illegals is they go to the hospital and we have to pay for it."
That is true, but, the part you did not mention is that the hospital that provides that service is almost always a public hospital paid by the city or county it's in with taxes collected from the community. Home owners being the biggest group taxed. One way or the other we pay for it.
You know that older guy that sells his pain pills? Ever stop to think why he does that? Think about it.
I get you don't want to pay a single penny more than what covers YOU. Ok, but, weather you like it or not, there's always going to be taxes. What it goes for you MIGHT be able to influence, but, I doubt it. And you know that BIG boogie man, "The Illegals"? They are approx. 3.5% of the total population or about 12 million. Really a drop in the bucket. And, when you figure that an often-overlooked fact is that many illegal immigrants pay payroll taxes and sales taxes. It can't affect the numbers that much. You've been brain washed about the "Great Hordes Coming Up From Mexico".
You seem reasonably smart. Think about this. There are traffic jams every day in every city and town of this nation during the morning and afternoon rush hours. Do you think all these people play all day long and suck on the tit of the Feds taking and not putting back? Not wanting higher taxes is normal. Citing your excuses is at best, laughable. At worst you are a bigot and a person that thinks very poorly of your fellow citizens.
By #588327 at 28,Feb,20 00:29
You want to believe you can save everyones without paying for it. The illegals are just an example of how messed up the system is. Do you really think they are paying $11,172 in taxes to cover their cost. I have been to many places that only have illegals working for them. They are not making much money

I'm sure your know about the 22 Trillion national debt. So obviously people are sucking on the tit of the government as you put it. You only care about what you want. Only you can think 12 million illegals at $11,172 or 1.3 billion is small. I'm sure it seem drop in bucket to you because you don't pay the bill. Your not willing to stand up for what you believe.

We already paying taxes in case your forgetting about all the stuff the government already give out for free. If you want to pay for more stuff. You can write a check anytime you want to.


Yes we can influence how taxes are spent. We can vote for someone who says no to free national health care.
By #610414 at 28,Feb,20 00:49
I paid just over $16K last year. That means I am paying my share. Taxes are levied on a sliding scale. Those that make little money pay little or nothing. The system is not set up nor will it ever be a set and equal amount for everyone.

Only you can think 12 million illegals at $11,172 or 1.3 billion is small.

And only you can be so thick headed that you can't wrap your brain around the fact that the money has to come from the workers only. There is no explanation that you are willing to accept that the means are there. You have decided that it'will cost you more taxes and that's that. Well, either the nation will go ahead with health care for all or stay behind in it's present system as it implodes. Time will tell
The huge growers in the southwest that make oodles of money, hire almost exclusively illegals or seasonal workers. So what? Yes, we are paying taxes already. You vote as you like and good luck.
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OK PETRO635, LET'S PLAY ANOTHER GAME,

YOU
-You want to believe you can save everyones without paying for it.
ME
WHEN DID I SAY THAT? SHOW ME.
YOU
The illegals are just an example of how messed up the system is.
ME
SINCE WHEN IS ILLEGAL ENTRY TO THIS COUNTRY "A SYSTEM"?
YOU
Do you really think they are paying $11,172 in taxes to cover their cost
ME
DID I EVER SAY THAT? YOU ARE VERY FREE WITH WHAT YOU ATTRIBUTE TO ME. SHOW ME WHERE I SAID THAT?
YOU
I'm sure your know about the 22 Trillion national debt. So obviously people are sucking on the tit of the government as you put it
ME
YOU DO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GOVERNMENT PAYS FOR EVERYTHING IT DOES, RIGHT? MILITARY, INFRASTRUCTURE, SOCIAL PROGRAMS, EVEN THE WHOLE AMOUNT OF PERSONNEL FROM CONGRESS TO SWEEPERS ARE PART OF THAT COST. THE DEBT IS WHAT WE HAVE TO BORROW WHEN WE RUN OUT OF MONEY. THAT IS NOT WASTED EXPENSES GOING TO DEADBEATS.
YOU
I'm sure it seem drop in bucket to you because you don't pay the bill. Your not willing to stand up for what you believe.
ME
HOW DARE YOU. I PAY A GOOD CHUNK OF MY PAYROLL TO INCOME TAXES. I'M WILLING TO BET I PROBABLY PAY MORE THAN YOU. FOR CERTAIN MY HOUSEHOLD PAYS WAY MORE THAN YOU. I AM WILLING TO PAY MORE SO MY FELLOW CITIZENS GET A BETTER DEAL FOR THEIR HEALTH CONCERNS. OBVIOUSLY FOR YOU IT'S ONLY "ME,ME,ME"
STOP PUTTING WORDS IN MY MOUTH.
By #588327 at 28,Feb,20 02:09
You prove you want to save everyones by not letting them fail for their choices. You want everyone else to pay for their health care.

Illegals entry into the USA. The system of free health care and hospital will take care of them if they go and free high school education their kid will get. They will get food stamps if needed. That's the system you don't seem to understand. Because you can't say no to illegals and you can't say no to the free stuff. They just show up and they can get it. Then we have to pay for it. But we don't actually pay for it. We jus keep adding it to the debt. Are you blind ??? Look at the California they are something like 1 Trillion in debt.

Illegals and the $11,172 thing was to point out they probably pay some taxes but they don't pay enough taxes to over come the free benefits they are taking. Part of the problem is because they are illegals the people they work for won't pay them a good wage because they know. Nobody is going to say anything and they can't because they are illegals. So they get screwed and so does the USA tax payers because nobody won't say no or go after the business that employees them.

If the government would stop spending money when it run outs of money then people like you would wake up and see the problem we have. We can afford all the stuff we want. Then you would be forced to made a choice as to what programs you want the government to spend your and my and everyone else money on. But no you don't want to make a choice, you want to keep spending even more money and keep going into debt.


It not about me me me. I'm willing to admit we are running out of money and can't afford national heath care. Because we already spent 22 trillion more then we have. Let's pay the 22 Trillion off and let's see maybe we can afford national health care.
By #610414 at 28,Feb,20 12:22
That is called balancing the budget. The last president to do that was Bill Clinton, a democrat. We know what happened since then.
By phart at 28,Feb,20 13:51 other posts of phart 
Cutting defense to pay for health care,is like cutting off your legs to save money from buying shoes. Stupid.And that is where the dems want to take from.
What good is good health in a unsafe country?
There could be some trimming,like take away subsidizing from alchol fuels and we actually eat the corn and burn the real gas that won't gum up everything in a months time.
That would leave some money for health care.
By #610414 at 28,Feb,20 14:43
Financial mismanagement is rampant at the Pentagon. And the Trump administration wants to give them tens of billions dollars more.

A staggering report by the Defense Department’s Inspector General last summer found the Army made $2.8 trillion worth of wrongful adjustments to accounting entries in one quarter alone in 2015, and $6.5 trillion for the year. The Army lacked receipts and invoices to support those numbers or simply made them up.

OF COURSE, BUILDING HIS ANTI-ILLEGALS WALL IS A MUST.
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PHART, if you put the cost aside, what do you think of medicare for all?
By #591921 at 02,Mar,20 18:08
Obama was president back in 2015 not Trump so thats on his admin. For not managing it or having the right management.
By #610414 at 02,Mar,20 20:19
The figures are correct. Regardless who was president, they were correct. If it could be stopped you could pay for national health for one year. You don't know weather to put down Obama or argue against national health care.




By #591921 at 02,Mar,20 18:10
Yeah we do know exactly what happened he balanced the budget and took money from the military and national security funds and then 911 happened. Yeah we know exactly what happened.


By #610414 at 12,Apr,20 12:47
And yet, now we are helping everyone and guess what, it's socialistic, and we CAN afford it.







By #610414 at 12,Apr,20 12:59
It's not so much the cost. Look at what's happening. No business, no health insurance. Nationalized med means your insurance continues even when you loose your job. If the private sector can do it, the Feds can do it too












By leopoldij at 20,Sep,21 02:39 other posts of leopoldij 
That's phunny.
By #610414 at 20,Sep,21 02:50
Yeah
By leopoldij at 20,Sep,21 10:10 other posts of leopoldij 
Your phriend might not appreciate this kind of humor.
By #610414 at 20,Sep,21 14:17
Phuck it.
By leopoldij at 20,Sep,21 21:45 other posts of leopoldij 
Phair enuph.







By #592419 at 17,Sep,21 23:55
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By phart at 18,Sep,21 01:29 other posts of phart 
imperfect he was but HELL YES ALOT of people miss him.Me for 1.
By #592419 at 18,Sep,21 02:01
He's not likable by liberals but he knew what he was doing and it was working.


By sherryann at 18,Sep,21 01:50 other posts of sherryann 
Yes I miss you President Trump
By #592419 at 18,Sep,21 02:01
By sherryann at 18,Sep,21 03:53 other posts of sherryann 
By #592419 at 18,Sep,21 23:55
We will win.. He's not done yet.




By *kmadeau* at 18,Sep,21 23:38 other posts of *kmadeau* 
yes, I do miss you
By #592419 at 20,Sep,21 01:02
Majority do miss the president.




By Gntlmn at 19,Sep,21 09:19 other posts of Gntlmn 
And you're dead from the "hoax"... hahahaha
By #610414 at 19,Sep,21 17:07
Wow, Gntlmn, you don’t mix words. Unfortunately you are right.



By #610414 at 18,Sep,21 04:52
Trump

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If you must miss him, it’s ok. If you think he was good at his job, it’s ok.
If he was your “President “, it’s ok.

Just don’t expect the rest of us to be fooled by him like he’s fooling you.


By #592419 at 25,Apr,20 15:48
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By #610414 at 25,Apr,20 20:29
51000 dead in the US alone. You betcha it makes us cry. Idiot
By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 00:10
What about the millions he saved, you fucking idiot..
By phart at 26,Apr,20 01:40 other posts of phart 
Even though millions could have died had he not been so "racist" no one cares.
He could drag 20 kids from a burning school bus and the media would write for a week that he was to wimpy to go back and get their home work.
By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 01:44



By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 00:11
You live in the USA?.. Then fucking move.. all you do is waste here..


By #610414 at 26,Apr,20 10:19
Both of you can rant and rave but inside, in that place that your mind goes in the early hours of the night, you know the truth.
I don't care how you feel about Trump or me. I'll be able to walk with my head held high at all times. You'll always be a dirty little ..........well.......You'll always be one and Phart can continue being a disconnected member of society.
By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 12:13
To your society, not mine... If you don't like the way american runs its policies,,, MOVE... but right now you are just wasting oxygen...
My suggestion is you move to Valenzuela where you can shut your fucking mouth when you scrounge for food and shelter down there you'll blame trump too.. You like aLL liberals that just do nothing but take a shit on the floor and squeeze the middle call taxpayer of his money FOR LOSERS LIKE YOU,, You are better off not here since all you do is squeeze the system.. IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT,, GIT!

By #592419 at 26,Apr,20 12:19
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What happened to your name.. Did you cry to your pimp when I kept trashing your page? I have plenty more where that came from..




By #523015 at 26,Apr,20 04:07
I can't stand trump but I have a fantasy of me going down on a trump supporter while he watches a trump rally and I have to shut up and take it


By #610414 at 10,Apr,20 12:40
To all of you that complained about socialized med because of the cost or Obama's stimulus package. What do you think about this 3b stimulus package? Socialistic? You betcha.


By #591921 at 17,Mar,20 22:13
Check out this an Illinois woman posted a screenshot that a local tv station accidentally put live on the air tho morning in Illinois. The screenshot declared Biden the winner with 986,341 votes over Bernie with 893,249 votes. The woman claimed this was posted by mistake this morning at around 10am and that was total vote tally. It wasn't supposed to be put on air until after the polls close tonight. Check those numbers after polls close there and see if that's the final vote.
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It is currently 6:14pm polls are still open right now and haven't closed yet
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Oh yeah by the way what politicians do we know from Illinois?


By #592419 at 15,Mar,20 17:04
Why do liberals buy all the toilet paper in the damn stores. They only wipe their asses bare-handed and smear shit on the wall.. Why is toilet paper such a catastrophic event?


By #610414 at 11,Mar,20 23:02
OBAMA WOULD NOT HAVE ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN. WAIT, IT NEVER DID WITH HIM


As of Wednesday's market close, the S&P 500 was up 28% since November 8, 2016 — a far cry from the 58% gain it had sported just three weeks ago.

By #588327 at 13,Mar,20 05:51
It will come back up. People have to stay in for the Long haul.
By phart at 13,Mar,20 14:15 other posts of phart 
Well I could go into a big crying spell as my stock has lost 20 dollars a share in value in the past 2 weeks.But I have no plans to sell as the dividends every 3 months help keep my bills paid. So in reality,I aint lost a dime.


By #591921 at 13,Mar,20 17:08
1000 people in the US died from the H1N1 virus before Obama declared a state of emergency in the US.
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1700 people died from swine flu in 2009 also. But I'm sure some liberal will claim Obama wasn't president then too. Or it was unavoidable or something.
By phart at 14,Mar,20 14:48 other posts of phart 
In the length of time this virus has been in the US,how many have died from accidents contributed to driving while impared by pot or alcohol?
How many have died from sucicide? How many have died from gang shootings? Are all these deaths Trump or Obamas fault? No.
The virus deaths are not Trumps fault.It is just he is not the favorite leader amoung the snow flakes so he is to blame for the sun being to bright and the price of eggs and the price of condoms and the death of virus victums and so on.
By #591921 at 14,Mar,20 15:01
Next they will be saying its Trumps fault that Gubernatorial Democrat candidate Andrew Gilliam was caught with meth in a Miami hotel with the openly gay hired for erotic male massage escort. The local news posted the police report if anyone wants to check I out he now is looking at charges for solicitation of prostitution for hiring the male erotic masseuse and supplying him with meth he overdosed on. I actually think its funny your running for governor lose,then get a job at CNN and become head of Democrat party in Florida and then a gay erotic masseuse overdosed in your hotel room. I guess thats why the drug problem and shootings increased 300% during the time he was mayor of Tallahassee.
By phart at 14,Mar,20 15:05 other posts of phart 
OH yea,it is Trumps fault alright,gota been!!
I sure hope this Andrew is not the "norm" for democratic canidates in the US.






By #610414 at 11,Mar,20 23:57
FOR THOSE THAT BELIEVE BERNY SANDERS DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM IS A DIRTY WORD AND THE END OF AMERICA, HERE’S A DILLY FROM BOTH SIDES OF THE ISLE AND WITH TRUMPO INVOLVED


Speaker Nancy Pelosi is set to unveil sweeping legislation to provide protections for Americans who may be directly affected by the coronavirus, a measure that has quickly gained steam as Democrats attempt to work with the Trump administration to pass the legislation Thursday.

The details of Pelosi’s package are close to being finalized, and will include provisions targeted at hourly workers who would be particularly hard-hit if forced to self-quarantine, as well as provisions to ensure workers won’t be penalized by employers for taking sick days.

By phart at 12,Mar,20 00:46 other posts of phart 
What has this got to do with Bernie or socialism?
The government is working to reduce the impact of the virus on peoples economy.
I cant see Bernie giving a damn about people,as long as they work and pay most of the wages in tax.
By #610414 at 12,Mar,20 12:32
It is still a social(istic) program. That’s the problem. People don’t know the meaning


By #591921 at 13,Mar,20 19:53
You mean the bill Trump proposed over a week ago and Nancy held back from being voted on so democrats could campaign on the coronovirus until the Tuesday election.



By #588327 at 13,Mar,20 05:55
Everyone just keep buying more stuff. We will keep delivering it. We have to keep the economy going so Trump wins again !


By #610414 at 12,Mar,20 22:12
MARKETS
Fed to pump in more than $1 trillion in dramatic ramping up of market intervention amid coronavirus meltdown
Oh, yeah. Support the market. Those millionaires need help. Forget universal health

By phart at 12,Mar,20 23:24 other posts of phart 
Who owns the companys that make the test kits? Who owns the companys that make mask,and othe equipment needed YESTERDAY to deal with the crisis? Big investors.
If they loose money,and close,there goes what little supply chain we have for supplies we need NOW.
So you sit back and let the airlines and other industrys go bust. Unemployement will be rampant.IS that a good thing right now? Keep them floating until they can get back on their feet.
That is part of what the democrats want is it not? Keep the people from loosing thier jobs and homes.What better way to do it than keep their employers above water? THINK past the politics. Use some common sense. THe health care system can't handle the load this will create,regardless of who is the President.
I heard ol Bernie today hollaring about people haveing acces to healthcare.Last 2 hospitals I went into,had signs up saying you would receive care regardless if you could pay or had insurance. So what the fuck is the gripe? No free sex changes? No free boob implants? Irrelavant to the virus.There will not be enough to cover the victums at the rate things are going regardless if the government was PAYING people to come get care.

NOW don't hangup the phone on me,I confess I actually heard BERNIE Sanders say something that made a bit of sense.
Call back retired doctors and nurses to help with the extra load. I can see that as being logical and should take place as of yesterday.



By Gntlmn at 08,Mar,20 05:59 other posts of Gntlmn 
I hope you die from Coronavirus, diarrhea drinker.
By #610414 at 08,Mar,20 18:24
Whom are you directing this post to?
By Gntlmn at 08,Mar,20 20:45 other posts of Gntlmn 
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And with luck, all the Putin's ass lickers who attended CPAC will die, too.




By phart at 27,Feb,20 00:29 other posts of phart 
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When ask how much it would all cost on 60 minutes," “Well, I can’t—you know, I can’t rattle off to you every nickel and every dime.”

Trillions of dollars. That is more than several of us could count in a years time.And he wants to spend it,and can't tell you where it would come from.

16.3 trillion for a Green New Deal, to accelerate the transition to a carbon-free economy;
$1.5 trillion to provide universal prekindergarten and child care;
$2.2 trillion to provide tuition-free public college and university, and to forgive all student debt;
$2.5 trillion to build affordable housing and reduce homelessness;
$81 billion to write off all medical debt;
a proposal to increase Social Security benefits (which Sanders did not provide a cost estimate for, but which other analysts have put at costing as much as $1.4 trillion); and
his Medicare for All plan, whose 10-year cost estimate in new federal spending ranges from just less than $31 billion (from the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget) to $34 trillion (from the center-left Urban Institute).


Bare in mind that does not take into consideeration the money the government is already spending for roads,defense,and so on.All this money he is pushing to spend is added TO the current exspenses.


And if you factor in Elizabeth Warrens idea of a "New BLUE deal" to help save the oceans that he would probably support and work into the mix, add that money.
The American people will literally be working for the government just like a communist country. Little of the people salary would go into their own pocket.
By admin at 27,Feb,20 01:15 other posts of admin 
It's quite obvious they are just for working people's money. All those project are nothing more than pipe dreams.
By #610414 at 27,Feb,20 02:33
I don't know how it is where you live, but in the USA, 46% of the taxes comes from the working people. The rest comes from various other taxed entities. Since just about every expenditure the Feds make is for or about "the working people" it's fair it should be paid by them. Here's a list of some pipe dreams: D Day on June 6,1944, first atomic bomb, the Polio vaccine, first man to walk on the moon, Obama-care, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, Civil Rights,
Pipe dreams tend to get done in this country. Right or wrong, when the will of the nation is tested, we always seem to come through.


By #610414 at 27,Feb,20 02:24
Two things:
1) This is over a ten (10) year period.
2) This is not a done deal. this is a wish list. That's how it works. Someone (the pres, a senator, a congressman) presents a plan. It's discussed, first to see if it's a good plan, second, how to pay for it, third, if approved, how much of the plan can be afforded.



By #610414 at 24,Feb,20 21:42
Well, old Bernie fucked it up royally. This is from his Sixty Minutes interview

Washington (CNN)Sen. Bernie Sanders offered a partial defense of Fidel Castro's Cuban revolution, asserting that "It's unfair to simply say everything is bad" with the way the late despot ruled the country.
"We're very opposed to the authoritarian nature of Cuba but you know, it's unfair to simply say everything is bad. You know?" Sanders said on CBS' "60 Minutes" in an interview that aired Sunday. "When Fidel Castro came into office, you know what he did? He had a massive literacy program. Is that a bad thing? Even though Fidel Castro did it?"

There goes the Cuban vote and if that happens Florida will go to someone else.
By #591921 at 24,Feb,20 22:36
Thats your democrats there. They also placed a 60 minutes interview where he complained about how bad America treated Castro. One thing we I assume agree on. Communist dont make good governance.
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News reports now that Bernie talked all grew about Castro and his accomplishments as a ruler that now Miami democrats are generally turning more toward Trump after they got away from Castro and came to the US.
By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 00:06
Like I've said, he fucked it up royally in South Florida.
By phart at 25,Feb,20 02:03 other posts of phart 
I just read that Bernie has a staffer in virgina that is the daughter of a fellow that has strong ties to terrorist organizations.
I think I read it on msn news here on the net
Regarless of our politics,most folks here in the US know Bernies ideas are FAR to radical.
By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 15:05
SOME RADICAL. WHY, HE EVEN PUTS CREAM IN HIS COFFEE. WOW, WE'VE GOT TO DO EVERYTHING TO PREVENT HIM FROM REPLACING OUR GREAT AND GLORIOUS LEADER.

Sanders is a democratic socialist.[335] He supports the Nordic model of social democracy. He thinks a workplace democracy is a good idea.[335] He focuses on income, banning assault weapons,[336] raising taxes on the wealthy,[337] raising the minimum wage,[338] federal background checks for guns,[339] universal healthcare,[340] lowering student debt,[341] making tuition free at public colleges and universities,[342] and expanding Social Security benefits.[343]

Sanders is a supporter of paternity leave, sick leave, and vacation time.[344] He also supports rules that would make it easier for workers to join or form a union.[345] Sanders knows that global warming is real and he wants to fix it.[346] He is against the Trans-Pacific Partnership.[347] Sanders was against the U.S. invasion of Iraq. He thinks that the government should not engage in mass surveillance of American citizens. He has been against Patriot Act since it was created.[348]

HIS FATHER WAS A POLISH JEW (DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY TRUMPS IT TAKES TO SCREW A POLISH JEW?) SURELY, THAT IS A SIGN HE INTENDS TO DESTROY WHAT'S LEFT OF AMERICA AFTER TRUMP FINISHES WITH IT
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By phart at 25,Feb,20 15:10 other posts of phart 
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Read this link. I have not watched the videos from the 80's but it might behoove us all to watch them.
And unions are what has ruined the manufactoring in this country.Lazy ass non productive people can hold postions and cant be fired because their in a fucking union.
By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 15:45
What you did not mention is that The Sandinistas overthrew the Somoza regime in Nicaragua,
For more than four decades in power, the Somoza family accumulated wealth through corporate bribes, industrial monopolies, land grabbing, and foreign aid siphoning. By the 1970s, the family owned 23 percent of land in Nicaragua while the family wealth reached $533 million, which already amounted to half of Nicaragua's debt and 33 percent of the country's 1979 GDP.[3]
WHEN DANIEL ORTEGA, THE HEAD OF THE SANDINISTAS, TURNED TO FIDEL CASTRO FOR HELP AND GUIDANCE THE US DECLARED HIM A TERRORIST. HIS HARSH TREATMENT OF SOMOZA SUPPORTERS MADE IT EASY.
AS FAR AS UNIONS ARE CONCERNED, I AGREE THAT A LINE WORKER THAT INSTALLED LUG NUTS ON A CHEVY WAS REALLY OVERPAID $24 PER HOUR AND MORE. YOU KEEP SAYING UNIONIZED OR CIVIL SERVANTS CAN'T BE FIRED. THAT IS A FALLACY. IT'S TRUE THAT THE PROCESS IS MORE COMPLICATED BUT IT CAN BE DONE.



By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 15:57
But I'm going to say the following. Bernie has shown with his dedication to serve the country and his state that he's an honorable man. Some of his proposals are somewhat radical (like wanting healthcare be available to all Americans) and he could be more careful what he says about totalitarian governments. However, in the case of Cuba, where the literacy rate was in the 60%, Castro did improve the rate tremendously. He also made Cuban doctors the biggest export of the island. Cuban doctors were in Africa, Asia, and Europe. Castro and his brother, along with most of the higher echelon of the Castro regime were butchers, but, Bernie is right. Those programs were good for the Cuban people.
SO, GETTING BACK, I LIKE BERNIE, I DON'T KNOW IF HE CAN DEFEAT TRUMP, BUT, IF HE GETS THE NOD BY THE dEMOCRATS, i'M VOTING FOR HIM
By phart at 25,Feb,20 16:51 other posts of phart 
Well we could go back to Hitler and his forcing the Jewish doctors to do cancer research as being a good thing.Although he nor the doctors that did the work get any credit for it it was a "good thing" because the Americans and others stole the knowledge and buried it for all except the upper crust.
But was that good thing worth all the bad he did? Nope.
Is it socially acceptable to walk around and give Hitler credit for the rear engine design of the reliable Volkswagon beetle that put europe on wheels? No.
By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 17:16
Here's an article that hit's on that
Ask most people what the Nazis did for the reputation of science and they’ll immediately talk about the terrible legacy of Josef Mengele, or perhaps Zyklon B and V2 rockets. Then, abruptly, they’ll stop. Ask Robert Proctor, however, and he doesn’t stop. Of course the Nazis did terrible things in the name of science, genetics especially. But what few people realise, says this science historian from Pennsylvania State University, is that they also did top-class research into the causes of cancer and pioneering work on the dangers of asbestos, fatty foods, pesticides and practically every other health and environmental hazard of the modern era. Oh, and they also gave the world its first whole-grain bread movement. This is the paradox at the heart of Proctor’s book The Nazi War on Cancer. As a recipe for controversy you couldn’t ask for more. Take the book’s central claim about the link between smoking and lung cancer. Everyone knows it was first established by British and American epidemiologists in the 1950s, right? Wrong, says Proctor. The jewel in the crown of 20th-century epidemiology was actually unearthed years earlier by Nazi scientists. It’s just that we never bothered-or dared-to give them any credit. Fearing charges of anti-Semitism, at least one major American newspaper got cold feet about reviewing the book, while at the Frankfurt Book Fair many publishers were, in Proctor’s words, “terrified to touch it” for translation.

Don't throw out the baby with the bath water, lollipop.
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BTW, it was Ferdinand Porsche who came up with the VW concept. Hitler wanted Germany's people to have cars and asked for prototypes. Porsche's design was chosen. A similar process was conducted in the USA when the Army wanted an all terrain vehicle and the Jeep won out.
WHAT ALL THIS HAS TO DO WITH BERNIE SANDERS IS BEYOND ME AND THE REASON YOU RIGHT WINGERS GET INTO TROUBLE WITH FACTS....OR LACK OFF. BERNIE WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT. HE MIGHT BE SOMEWHAT SOCIALIST BUT, HE HAS THE RIGHT ATTITUDE TO OUR CITIZENS. A FAR CRY FROM THE SEXUAL PERV WE HAVE NOW.
By phart at 26,Feb,20 00:27 other posts of phart 
I don't want a communist control freak for President.Besides the fellow is older than DIRT for crying out loud!
The people he admires,the systems he agrees with,are not fitting for our democracy.
By #610414 at 26,Feb,20 00:31
Tell that to Trump. Isn't he a great pal of Xi, Putin, and Jong-un?
Besides, he's not. Only you and people like you, who can't comprehend what a social democrat means.







By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 16:10




By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 14:34
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The Dow tumbled more than 1,000 points and marked its third-worst point drop in history

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WELL, ONE MORE TIME TRUMPO BAILED OUT. SO THIS IS HOW HE TAKES CARE OF THE ECONOMY? THE DOW IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES AND HE'S GALLIVANTING IN INDIA PLAYING GUNGA DIN

By phart at 25,Feb,20 15:05 other posts of phart 
Ding aling,read the ReST OF THE STORY>The corona virus is taking it's toll on the WORLD economy right now.No Trump should not be blamed or saddled for a chinese bio weapon that got loose.
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By #610414 at 25,Feb,20 15:23
Obama would have found a solution. Not this joke. Sightseeing with his whore.
By phart at 26,Feb,20 00:29 other posts of phart 
Obama couldnt find his ass with both hands if Michelle wasn't banging it!
Yea,plenty of rumors and "photographic proof"
that our first black first lady may actually be a trany.





By #592419 at 24,Feb,20 20:10
JIMnKS......He was very rude to me so I just put a big smelly shit-pile on his page.. Should I be ashamed or should I also serve a desert to fit the 3 course meal?


By #610559 at 07,Feb,20 02:51
What does this item has to do with showitoff.org?????
By #588327 at 07,Feb,20 04:36
Nothing just that cazy lady started this post long time ago. Now she deleted her account. She said all kinds of stuff about Trump.. once again they don't have anything and now she gone. This was her big moment to shine
By #610559 at 07,Feb,20 10:06
hahaha. Thank You.
By phart at 07,Feb,20 13:58 other posts of phart 
she is back. She may have some reasons that she feels the way she does because of her job.But I can't agree with most of what she says.But for a conservitive,she is like a sharpening stone.Keeps our senses keen to what the liberals want and reminds us of why we can't rest in our struggle to make and Keep America great.
By #610559 at 07,Feb,20 14:25
Trump is for me the most respectful person as US President in my lifetime. I liked Flotus praying the "our Father" in public. And I like very much draining the swamp. Even here in Germany lots of politicians of "special directions & interests" are in trembling-aspen-modus. We pray for Donald Trump daily.
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 14:41
Herbert, how can you say that? This man cheated on his wife while she was pregnant with his son. He admitted he grabbed women's snatches without permission. Declared bankruptcy more than 5 times hurting many many people. Calls his rivals by derogatory names. Hates Muslims, blacks, and Latins. He was impeached. He is a backstabber. He has lied over 15000 times (yes 15K) since he took office. This is the man Germans pray for? You come from a country responsible for the deaths of millions upon millions. I guess it should be expected.
By #610559 at 07,Feb,20 15:04
Angel, are You a witness or do You reproduce what others tell You?
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 15:21
I'm as good as you, lollipop. I don't live in the White House. I'm also too young to remember the Great Wars, but, my Dad was there. You might say I got my info second hand. You are not going to tell me that is "FAKE NEWS" are you? What I reproduce is info that Trumpo admitted freely to the world.


By #591921 at 17,Feb,20 16:51
And they keep adding numbers to that 15,000 times even after 800 have been proven to be the truth hahahaha
By #610414 at 17,Feb,20 17:32
Overeight, if that's true, you should be able to show us where it says that.
By #591921 at 18,Feb,20 03:11
Watch the rerun of the race. Both ABCand NBC reported this morning the stands were nearly empty but funny when I watched the race I didn't see one empty seat.
By #610414 at 18,Feb,20 03:38
?????????? Are you smoking some funny weed, baby? I've no idea what you are talking about.
By #591921 at 18,Feb,20 04:20
Well if you watch Greg gutfield show you coup have seen the montage he put together of all the shows praising Mike Avinatti. Ama Novaro calling him the greatest Democrat warrior in history of the united states on the view. CNN telling him he was a true fighter for democrats and the greatest lawyer ever who cares more about the country than he does about money. MSNBC where they said they were so proud to have such a true fighter for democrats on their side. They had clips from all the people who praised him like a god. Trump nigh have screwed Stormy Daniels but at least it was with his dick. Mike Avinotti screwed her in a completely different way. Classic Democrat,the perfect American as one liberal called him.hahahahaha now he is going to die in prison for trying to rip off Nike with a fake lawsuit and he still has to go to trial for the money he took from stormy. Hahahaha perfect Democrat is right. Haha plus look at the reason Bill Barr recommended less time for Roger Stone. Democrats placed a few "special people" on the jury. And the four prosecutors who quit said if they tried to report it to the AG they would quit and call a press conference. Well the fifth one called the AG because they sentenced him with more time than any person they prosecuted for smuggling guns into the US. All he did was say some things that weren't absolutely correct. All of the prosecutors who quit and called the press conference were appointed by Obama for their positions. Hahaha the news called them all career federal prosecutors yeah they have only been there for 10-11 years. The fifth one was appointed by Bush 2 so he didn't think the sentence was justified.
By #610414 at 18,Feb,20 05:15
And 10 to 12 years does not mean "career" to you? BTW, whom are we talking about? If you mean Roger Stone, He was not prosecuted for gun running.
Overeight, Greg Gutfield is hardly a credible source of news. He's part of Fox. But, who gives a flying fuck about Avernatti, or Novaro.
As far as "PLACING" a few people on the jury of the Roger Stone trial, haven't you ever heard of Voir Dire? That's when the prosecution and defense agree who will be on a jury. One side or the other does not place "SOME".
All he did was say some things that weren't absolutely correct. You are damned right. HE LIED TO CONGRESS. And those prosecutors that quit did so because the AG interfered with their case to please his master. That's why previous prosecutors from both parties are calling for Barr to resign.
Your president is a crook, a degenerate, a liar, a bigot, an uneducated functional illiterate, and a lawbreaker. His cronies are just as bad and getting jail time for it. So what did he do for you? Told off a black dude off that was a better president than him? Did you get that 15 cent raise? Maybe you got the job cleaning toilets now that Mex illegals can't get in (you wish). What did he do that you are willing to throw all principles out the window? Or maybe you just like having your ass reamed by a white, German dude who is a millionaire and doesn't give a hoot about you.
By phart at 18,Feb,20 18:10 other posts of phart 
10 or 12 years is hardly a carreer.Good start to 1 but only a third or so toward that goal.A carreer is 25 years plus.
By #610414 at 18,Feb,20 19:53
No, a career is the work you wish to do for as long as you can. There are no time constraints. You can have a career in education and change it to sex therapist. A career you invest 25 years to it is called "a good reason to retire".

Your definition means that no matter how much time you invested to reach a milestone (i.e.medical doctor) that person is just doing a job. No, baby. Not acceptable and I'm betting, even on the site, there'll be many that will disagree with you.
By phart at 19,Feb,20 02:00 other posts of phart 
nope you retire with 30 years service if you are working for a company that both you invested your time in and they invested their training and so forth into.
And even then,unless you have a real good plan for something to do once you retire,retiring may be unhealthy for you.A persons family and then their job,are 2 things that give a person a feeling of self worth and purpose.Once the family is grown up and gone,the job is retired from,people tend to sit down and just wait for death so to speak.I had plans of taking on another job when I retired from the first to really make use of my cdl license but that kinda got blown out of the water.
By #610414 at 19,Feb,20 02:31
No argument but, Phart, I didn't say it was retirement time. I said it was a good reason to retire and it was said tongue-in-cheek. A career is a professional way of life. A job is making time to earn a living. Quite a difference.
As far as what you do with your life after you retire depends largely on your zest for life. Becoming a human vegetable is not an option for me. My family defines me. I'm nothing without them. My work allows me to provide for them.




By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 04:47
Well apparently someone can't read I said they gave Roger Stone more time than people who were running guns ito the country. And I never said Greg Gutfield was news but he did shoe clips from all the liberal news sites praising Avinotti like he was a god. And one more thing George Soros has finally come out of hiding. Yeap Trump finally cut off his connections. He now demands that Mark Zuckerburg and Sheryl Sandberg be removed from the head of Facebook and it taken away from them. Turns out someone has a more influential media outlet than him. He's crying saying its unfair to Democrats that people can post things and their opinions on facebook and they should have to prove that any post made on facebook is 100% true or else it can't be posted. Too bad CNN is allowed to tell 236 proven lies and get away with it but its colluding with Russia if jack the electrician from Georgia post something that he heard or thinks on social media. Gee last time I looked free speech was still part of the constitution,oohh yeah thats right he must be mistaken and thinks Hillary won and enacted that brand new Constitution of the New North America that he had written up. Hmmm in that no free speech unless you the press,no guns unless your law enforcement or military and Republicans aren't allowed to run for president. Check it out. Oh yeah thats right your to busy talking out your ass and only watching CNN to anything up because they are the only ones that report the truth according to you. Look yes I support Trump and no he isn't a perfect man but at least he is trying to give people in the US a little better life. I guess nobody has jobs huh. I guess wages aren't going up huh. I guess the new trade deal only rips American farmers off by giving them fair prices for their crops huh. I guess people not having to rely on the government for food and money is a travesty huh. What it is is that democrats can't stand that America sees just how the status quo has been only taking their money to give to other countries,spending money over seas and democrats have been pocketing it in overseas accounts for years. Now they are about to go broke they are telling all the dirt on each other left and right.Trump doesn't have to do squat. Just sit back and watch. People now see exactly who it is dividing America hell democrats are dividing themselves. Democrat on Democrat fights and online battles and I have dirt on you,so what heres dirt on you. Its an entertaining show. I think its hilarious. And by the way if you say Greg gutfield showed fake clips o wonder how he got all those CNN reporters to make fools out of themselves and say all the false stuff they said tha has actually been proven is false. Damn he must have plenty of money to pay those high paid newscasters to make fun of themselves in parody
By #610414 at 19,Feb,20 14:57
BABY, LET'S BREAK IT DOWN. YOU'VE SAID A MOUTHFUL AND IT'S HARD TO REBUT YOU.

Well apparently someone can't read I said they gave Roger Stone more time than people who were running guns ito the country
YES, SIR, YOU DID . BUT, THEY NEVER GAVE STONE ANYTHING. THE JUDGE HAS YET TO DECIDE ON THE SENTENCE. THE PROSECUTORS MADE SENTENCING REQUESTS TO THE JUDGE.

. And I never said Greg Gutfield was news but he did shoe clips from all the liberal news sites praising Avinotti like he was a god.
I SAW SOME OF THOSE CLIPS AND NOT ONE PRAISED HIM. AS A MATTER OF FACT, MOST PEOPLE BELIEVE HE'S A SLEAZEBALL THAT HIT IT BIG WITH STORMY AND TRUMP.

And one more thing George Soros has finally come out of hiding. Yeap Trump finally cut off his connections. He now demands that Mark Zuckerburg and Sheryl Sandberg be removed from the head of Facebook and it taken away from them. Turns out someone has a more influential media outlet than him. He's crying saying its unfair to Democrats that people can post things and their opinions on facebook and they should have to prove that any post made on facebook is 100% true or else it can't be posted.
FIRST, WHAT DOES SOROS HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? HE'S A PRIVATE CITIZEN AND HAS A RIGHT TO HIS OPINIONS. SECOND, ZUCKERBURG AND SANDBERG ARE CORPORATION OFFICERS AND NO ONE, NOT EVEN TRUMP, CAN REMOVE THEM UNLESS THEY BREAK THE LAW OR A MAJORITY OF THE STOCK HOLDERS VOTE THEM OUT. AND AS FAR AS "TELLING THE TRUTH", MAN, HAS THAT SHIP SAILED OR WHAT? IN HONOR TO OUR LIAR IN CHIEF, EVERYONE LIES.

Too bad CNN is allowed to tell 236 proven lies and get away with it but its colluding with Russia if jack the electrician from Georgia post something that he heard or thinks on social media. Gee last time I looked free speech was still part of the constitution,oohh yeah thats right he must be mistaken and thinks Hillary won and enacted that brand new Constitution of the New North America that he had written up.

DID CNN TELL 236 PROVEN LIES? I'M WILLING TO BELIEVE YOU................JUST SHOW ME A LINK TO WHERE I CAN FIND THAT INFORMATION, TOO. TELL ME, BOOBIE, ARE YOU GUYS IN LOVE WITH HILARY? DO YOU DREAM OF HER PEGGING YOU AS OLD CLINT WATCHES? YOU BRING HER UP IN EVERY DISCUSSION I LOVE HOW WELL YOU YOKELS KNOW YOUR FREE SPEECH AND GUN RIGHTS SECTION OF THE CONSTITUTION AND CONVENIENTLY FORGET ABOUT WOMEN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHTS OR SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.

Hmmm in that no free speech unless you the press,no guns unless your law enforcement or military and Republicans aren't allowed to run for president. Check it out. Oh yeah thats right your to busy talking out your ass and only watching CNN to anything up because they are the only ones that report the truth according to you.

DO YOU READ THE NEW YORK TIMES? LONDON TIMES? HOW ABOUT THE INTERNATIONAL HERALD TRIBUNE? THE BUENOS AIRES TIMES? DO YOU LISTEN TO THE BBC? NPR? AL JAZEERA?

THERE ARE 3 TYPES OF NEWS SERVICES, THE RAG SHEETS BOTTOM OF A BIRD CAGE TYPE LIKE THE NEW YORK POST. THEN THERE'S WHAT YOU CALL THE "FAKE NEWS" OUTLETS LIKE CNN. THE THIRD TYPE ARE THE HONEST REPORTING SOURCES. THE ONES THAT TELL IT LIKE IT IS. THEY REPORT NEWS WEATHER IT'S POPULAR OR NOT. THEIR SLOGAN WOULD BE "THE TRUTH, NO MATTER WHAT" THE SOURCES I QUOTED ABOVE ARE MY CHOICE TO LISTEN TO. THEY, TOO, NEED TO BE SCRUTINIZED BY THE READER OR LISTENER AND BACKED UP BY MULTIPLE SOURCES. YES, I DO LISTEN TO CNN. IT'S HARD TO LISTEN TO THE EVENING NEWS WITHOUT ONE OF IT'S STORIES BEING ON. BY THE WAY, WHEN I TALK OUT OF MY ASS, AT LEAST IT'S THE TRUTH AND I'M ABLE TO BACK IT UP WITH FACTS. WHEN YOU TALK OUT OF YOUR ASS, IT'S DIARRHEA WITH NO BACKUP FACTS, JUST A DIATRIBE OF TRUMP SUPPORTER'S CRAP.

Look yes I support Trump and no he isn't a perfect man but at least he is trying to give people in the US a little better life. I guess nobody has jobs huh. I guess wages aren't going up huh. I guess the new trade deal only rips American farmers off by giving them fair prices for their crops huh. I guess people not having to rely on the government for food and money is a travesty huh. What it is is that democrats can't stand that America sees just how the status quo has been only taking their money to give to other countries,spending money over seas and democrats have been pocketing it in overseas accounts for years

AGAIN, YOU ARE DOING A FEW THINGS THAT DON'T JIVE WITH ME. THE BIGGEST IS YOU ARE MAKING ASSUMPTIONS ABOUT ME THAT ARE NOT TRUE. YOU DON'T KNOW ME ENOUGH TO DO SO.. BEFORE I ANSWER THOSE ACCUSATIONS LET ME BRING THIS INTO THE DISCUSSION.

"Yes, the Dow is at a record high and official unemployment rates are lower than they have been in decades. But measuring the health of the economy by these stats is like measuring the 19th-century’s plantation economy by the price of cotton. However much the slaveholders profited, enslaved people and the poor white farmers whose wages were stifled by free labor did not see the benefits of the boom.
In America today, 140 million people are poor or low wealth. While three individuals own as much wealth as all of them put together, the real cost of living has soared as wages have stagnated. Since the 1970s, the number of people who are paying more than a third of their monthly income in rent has doubled, and there is not a single county in the nation where a person working full-time at minimum wage can afford to rent a two-bedroom apartment. Sixty per cent of African Americans are poor or low-income, as are 64% of Hispanics, but the largest single racial group among America’s poor and low-income – 66 million Americans – are white"
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SEE? THAT'S HOW IT'S DONE. YOU MAKE A STATEMENT AND THEN YOU BRING YOUR SOURCES. THIS WAS IN THE GUARDIAN, A RESPECTED PUBLICATION. SO, NOW I ASK YOU, HOW HAS THE TRUMP PRESIDENCY AFFECTED YOU FOR THE BETTER? HOW DIFFERENT WAS IT FROM THE OBAMA OR BUSH PRESIDENCIES? ARE YOU RICH NOW? HAVE A BETTER HOME? ARE FOOD PRICES LOWER? DON'T HEAR SO MUCH ALL THEM FOREIGNERS TALKING IN SPANISH ? IS THE FIRST LADY HOTTER THAN THE LAST ONE AND YOU HAVE BETTER FANTASIES? WHAT?

. Now they are about to go broke they are telling all the dirt on each other left and right.Trump doesn't have to do squat. Just sit back and watch. People now see exactly who it is dividing America hell democrats are dividing themselves. Democrat on Democrat fights and online battles and I have dirt on you,so what heres dirt on you. Its an entertaining show. I think its hilarious. And by the way if you say Greg gutfield showed fake clips o wonder how he got all those CNN reporters to make fools out of themselves and say all the false stuff they said tha has actually been proven is false. Damn he must have plenty of money to pay those high paid newscasters to make fun of themselves in parody

IT'S NO LESS, BUT, CERTAINLY NOT MORE THAN THE 2016 REPUBLICAN PRIMARIES. REMEMBER THOSE? REMEMBER TRUMP CALLING ALL HIS FELLOW REPUBLICANS ALL KINDS OF NAMES? I DO, BABY.

SO NOW I'LL COME TO MY MAIN POINT. I AM AN UNASHAMED ANTI-TRUMP PERSON. I'M ALSO A DEMOCRAT AND GENERALLY BELIEVE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY IS FAR BETTER THAN A REPUBLICAN ONE, BUT, EITHER ONE CAN BE GOOD FOR THIS COUNTRY. TRUMP IS NOT. HE'S NO GOOD FOR YOU, FOR ME, FOR ANYONE. NOT AMERICA, NOT EUROPE, NOT ANYONE. I WILL NEVER SUPPORT HIM. IF RE=ELECTED I WILL GIVE HIM THE RESPECT I'M ABLE TO MUSTER AND THAT'S ALL.
NOW, YOU HAVE NOT OBSERVED THE SAME NICETIES ABOUT ME. YOU DON'T LIKE MY VIEWS SO "THEY COME OUT OF MY ASS" ...........LET ME TELL YOU, ASSHOLE. YOU COME ACROSS AS AN UNEDUCATED FUNCTIONAL ILLITERATE. YOU THINK THAT BECAUSE YOU ARE SAYING IT OR BECAUSE I'M A WOMAN YOU CAN STEP ALL OVER ME. IF YOU ARE THE REASON TRUMP IS IN OFFICE, GOD HELP US.
By #591921 at 23,Feb,20 03:01
Thats right now because I disagree with you in a white male misogynist,how convenient for you. And if you think that a formal education controls you intelligence and how well you can deduct things and how you think you are sorely mistaken. You say I'm illiterate and all but said I'm an idiot. However just because I have engineering hands on ability doesn't mean my mind inns inferior to yours. I will refrain from stating what my intelligence Quotient is so your not embarrassed. And you do have one thing right when I comes to computer literacy I never bothered because I prefer applied practices not theoretical rhetoric. Go find an idiot to call a white demeaning misogynist now your the one who first know me
By #610414 at 24,Feb,20 01:10
Thats right now because I disagree with you in a white male misogynist,how convenient for you.
No, baby, not because you disagree with me. It's because you said my views and opinions, "THEY COME OUT OF MY ASS". Intelligence has been defined in many ways: the capacity for logic, UNDERSTANDING, self-awareness, learning, emotional knowledge, reasoning, planning, creativity, critical thinking, and problem solving.
You are no less smart than me or anyone else unless you demonstrate otherwise And that;s how you come across. I can make allowances for poor spelling and sentence structure but, when a person puts me down like you did, I don't owe you anything. And yes, besides an illiterate slob, you do come across as a misogynist. Get over it.











By #588327 at 07,Feb,20 14:44
I think Trump is good. I understand people don't like they way he talks or acts. He basically says what he thinks and does it. I would not want to go back the the Obama administration. I would not like Joe Biden being president. He and Obama had their time to what they wanted. It was not a very good time in my opinion.
By phart at 07,Feb,20 15:04 other posts of phart 
I would rather have Biden than Sanders any day.At least we know he is not the brightest bulb in the hallway. Sanders is a damn idiot.And is winning! that is the sad part.There are folks that honestly want a communist for a president of the US.I would rather have a croch grabbing new yorker any day than a damn comunist.
Had Trump been a gay man accused of grabbing mens crotches,he would be a hero to the same people that hate him.
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 23:39
Phart, there's a huge difference between Communism and Democratic Socialism. Sanders wants the Feds to help people out of their poor existence. I don't hear outrageous ideas from him. He wants socialized medicine. What is wrong with this? He wants our young people access to a university education. This is a win-win for our nation.
He is not a Communist. He is not a Putin, a Castro, a Gorbachev or a Xi JinPing. He is a man that spent the greater part of his life bringing public service for the good of the country. That is a far cry from a joker that, by self admission is a sex pervert and a traitor to his country. Well, in this country, everyone has the right to choose whom he wants to lead him. The choice though, tells more about you than anything else.
By phart at 08,Feb,20 01:35 other posts of phart 
Not everyone coming out of high school is compatiable with a university education.It may not be wise to basicly farce the kids thru it,uh put in plain english,a waste of money.
It is not the feds job to get people out of their poor existance.It is the peoples job.It is the Feds job to help keep jobs here for the people to do to get paid to cover their own lives.
The program Trump spoke about today on tv,a great idea.Trump also want to put vocational classes back in schools and small colleges.As he said,brick layers,carpentors and so on,make good money.IF they are taught.
Trump is not the evil man Pelosi has you convinced he is.
You are just looking at him thru coke bottle glasses with blinders on.
By #610414 at 08,Feb,20 01:49
No one is forcing high schoolers into college. It's the ability to do so if they choose to do so that is important. Every country in the world wants to help it's citizens excel in their private lives. Why would you be against this? Every city government in every state of the union worries about poverty in their city. They worry about proper housing, proper schools, proper healthcare and proper nutrition. It is THE MAIN CONCERNS for any government. Why not make it national and take advantage of less repetition, less personel, more buying power, and uniform efforts.
Every city has public housing. Every city has public hospitals. Only you, Phart, want to buck the system. I understand the costs may be high but, what is a decent life worth?
By #588327 at 08,Feb,20 06:32
You can't afford what you believe in. I know you can't because you want the government to step in and pay the bill. People don't value what they don't have to work for. You are living in a dream Land if you don't understand that. Why don't you go find a homeless person and offer to pay for their education and see how successful they will be. They won't value you money or the opportunity you give them.

I know of a job anyone can get and they will give you FREE training and even pay you during training ! People still won't do the job. Because they don't want to work. So you don't give them Free stuff because they don't care about it. You don't take away money from someone working and give it to someone who does not value it. You give everyone an opportunity to work and let them choice how much they wan to work

Angel1227 put YOUR money up if you believe in you idea. Go pay for some people college education and tell use how it works out. Don't ask the government to do something, your not willing to do yourself.
By #610414 at 08,Feb,20 14:23
Petro, you say the following

You can't afford what you believe in. I know you can't because you want the government to step in and pay the bill. People don't value what they don't have to work for. You are living in a dream Land if you don't understand that. Why don't you go find a homeless person and offer to pay for their education and see how successful they will be. They won't value you money or the opportunity you give them.

IF YOU ARE SAYING I DON'T CONTRIBUTE YOU ARE WAY WRONG. MY YEARLY TAX BILL IS AROUND 18K$. BUT YOU MISS THE POINT OR POINTS. THE REASON FOR GOVERNMENT IS SO THAT HUGE ENDEAVORS CAN BE ACHIEVED. ENDEAVORS AN INDIVIDUAL IS UNABLE, PHYSICALLY UNABLE, TO ACHIEVE. SURE, I CAN OFFER A BUM A COLLEGE EDUCATION AND HE WOULDN'T VALUE OR ACCEPT IT BUT, WHAT ABOUT THAT INNER CITY STUDENT WHO IS NOT IN THE HONOR ROLL AND IS TOO POOR TO ATTEND COLLEGE, LET ALONE UNIVERSITY? DON'T YOU THINK HE/SHE MIGHT BE GRATEFUL?

YOU ALSO SAY

I know of a job anyone can get and they will give you FREE training and even pay you during training ! People still won't do the job. Because they don't want to work. So you don't give them Free stuff because they don't care about it. You don't take away money from someone working and give it to someone who does not value it. You give everyone an opportunity to work and let them choice how much they wan to work

WHAT DOES THAT PROVE? MANY OF THESE PROGRAMS FOR SELF IMPROVEMENT ARE NOT GEARED FOR EVERYONE. MOST ARE EITHER BLUE COLLAR WORK TRAINING OR WAREHOUSE TYPE WORK. AND DON'T BRING MILITARY WORK INTO IT (GREAT JOB, MIGHT GET KILLED, BUT LIVE GOOD FOR AS LONG AS YOU LAST). bUT YOUR GREATEST FALLACY IS THAT WHERE YOU STATE

You don't take away money from someone working and give it to someone who does not value it

IF THAT'S THE CASE THEN TAXES SHOULD NOT BE COLLECTED FROM ANYONE. AFTER ALL ROADS ARE USED BY, BOTH, THE WORKING PEOPLE AND THE BUMS. PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION IS THE SAME. NO MILITARY. AFTER ALL THEY DEFEND THE WORKING PEOPLE AND THE BUMS.
DID YOU KNOW THE AVERAGE COUNTER PERSON IN A FAST FOOD RESTAURANT MAKES ABOUT $10 AN HOUR? THAT'S $400 A WEEK IF HE/SHE IS LUCKY TO GET 40 HRS. USUALLY ITS 32 HRS OR LESS. THEY GET TO PAY PAYROLL TAXES TOO. THE AVERAGE IS ABOUT 14%. THAT'S EQUAL TO $56 PER PAYCHECK SO TAKE HOME IS LESS THAN $350. WOW, HE/SHE IS RICH. ADD TWO KIDS AT HOME TO THE MIXTURE, ELECTRICITY, PHONE, MAYBE WATER, TRANSPORTATION AND THE MOST IMPORTANT FOOD.
HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK WILL BE LEFT OVER? NOW THINK ABOUT THIS. ONE OF THE KIDS GETS SERIOUSLY SICK. DO YOU THINK HE/SHE CAN AFFORD A PRIVATE HOSPITAL WITH A PRIVATE DOCTOR? HOW ABOUT THE COST OF THE MEDS FOR HIS/HER SON?
AND THIS IS....HOW DID YOU PUT IT?....someone working. OH, YES, BECAUSE WE ALL MAKE $89K A YEAR (MY SALARY). HELL, EVEN I COULD BE IN THAT SITUATION TOO.
I'M NOT NAIVE ENOUGH TO DENY THAT EVEN THE GOVERNMENT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO AFFORD ALL PROGRAMS, BUT, IT CAN TRY. OBAMA-CARE, THAT SO HATED PROGRAM IS HELPING THOUSANDS AND WE PAY FOR IT. CAN'T IT BE MODIFIED AND EXPANDED? DO YOU SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT THE BEST COURSE OF ACTION IS TO SIT ON OUR THUMBS AND SAY "WELL, WHAT THE FUCK. IT'S NOT ME."?

YOU SAY

Angel1227 put YOUR money up if you believe in you idea. Go pay for some people college education and tell use how it works out. Don't ask the government to do something, your not willing to do yourself.

I AM WILLING. IF I HAD MILLIONS I WOULD, BUT, IT'S NOT UP TO ME. IT'S UP TO MY GOVERNMENT TO DO IT AND I WOULD, GLADLY, PONY UP SOME EXTRA DOLLARS TO HELP OUT. WILL IT EVER BE ENOUGH? NO, NOT BY A LONG SHOT, BUT, AS RESPONSIBLE CITIZENS, AS CHRISTIANS OR MEN OF GOD, AS HUMAN BEINGS, WE SHOULD TRY.

I CAN AFFORD TO BE THAT PERSON
By #588327 at 08,Feb,20 15:51
We are already helping people. We give everyone a high school education. We have food stamp. We have Medicare and Medicaid.

I'm not saying you don't contribute. I'm saying you can't fix or save everyones by giving them more stuff. People take advantage of your good will. They will just keep taking and never take advantage of the free education. People have to be responsible for their own choices at some point.

A fast food job is not meant to be a job you raise a family on. The problem you point out is true having kids and only a fast food job is a bad way to live. So people need to be more responsible. How about not having kids until you have job that provides the income you need to actually raise kids. People have sex and get pregnant and life end up not going as planned. So people get stuck in low paying job and can't get better themselves. Does that mean I know have to pay for a college education for them. We have to let people being responsible for their own lives. Because I don't want to be responsible for paying for their bad choices.


The job I'm talking about is a real job. It not a self improvement thing. It a real job. No wearhouse work. You sit in A/C all summer and heat in the winter. The job is NOT geared for EVERYONE. You do the job they ask you to do. People do the requirements of the job and you get paid for that work. It's more pay then fast food and they have Heath insurance.

I get free movie tickets. I have not paid to see a movie in 4 years because the job is so happy to have someone do the job. That's an extra benefit they add besides the regular pay. They even guarantee you will make money every week. They will pay you no matter what happens (if you do the job requirements). How about this, they will pay you to NOT work. That's right you get paid NOT to work. If people have kids or plan on having kids. It might not be the best job for them. In the end people have to choose the work they want for the job and pay they want. It not the governments job to give people everything they want. If that's your answer I got lots of jobs for every one that want to make good money. No college education required. It's not military it's a real job. Free training and you get paid while training. Who wants a job ??


Your last point about how you would pay college education if you had millions. You don't have millions, so you say that's the governments job. Because they have unlimited money you must think ? That's not the governments job. The government does not have ANY MONEY. They only take it away from other people with taxes. So if you can afford to be that person you can pay more taxes if you want. That's why you can vote for someone that has the idea you like of more free health care and more free college education.

I can vote for someone who say no to that idea. Because I'm not pay more taxes because you want save people that's don't want to work or are not willing to make the same sacrifice we had to make. In know of job opening no college education required they WILL make lots more money then fast food.
By #610414 at 08,Feb,20 16:22
Petro, life is not as simple as that. Exactly how many jobs does a high school education qualify you for? And, if you do get pregnant or you get someone pregnant before you reach a point you can afford it, is that a good reason to keep you under for life?
YOU SAY
Your last point about how you would pay college education if you had millions. You don't have millions, so you say that's the governments job. Because they have unlimited money you must think ? That's not the governments job. The government does not have ANY MONEY. They only take it away from other people with taxes. So if you can afford to be that person you can pay more taxes if you want.

THE GOVERNMENT DOES NOT HAVE ANY MONEY "that they have not collected". BUT, THEY ARE CAPABLE OF COLLECTING IT. INSTEAD OF COMPLAINING SO MUCH IT WILL COST YOU, WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT POLITICIANS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAX THE TOP 1% AND BIG CORPORATIONS MORE INSTEAD OF GIVING A HUGE TAX BREAK?
I can vote for someone who say no to that idea. Because I'm not pay more taxes because you want save people that's don't want to work or are not willing to make the same sacrifice we had to make. In know of job opening no college education required they WILL make lots more money then fast food.

YPU CAN VOTE FOR SOMEONE LIKE THAT. IT'S YOUR RIGHT AND THE WAY WE DO THINGS IN THIS COUNTRY, BUT, I HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS. DON'T MAKE THE MISTAKE THINKING HELP FROM THE GOVERNMENT IS ONLY FOR PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT TO WORK. AFTER ALL, RETIREES DON'T WORK (SOCIAL SECURITY). RECENTLY LAID OFF (UNEMPLOYMENT INSURANCE). WORKING PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD FOOD (FOOD STAMPS). DISABLED WHO CAN'T WORK (DISABILITY INSURANCE)
LET ME TELL YOU A STORY. MY FIRST GRANDCHILD, A BEAUTIFUL LITTLE GIRL WAS BORN WITH SEVERE MENTAL AND PHYSICAL DISABILITIES. SHE HAS BEEN IN A WHEEL CHAIR (COST OF $5342) SINCE BIRTH. SHE'S UNABLE TO HELP HERSELF EVEN IN THE MOST SIMPLE OF TASKS. SHE GETS FED THROUGH A MICKEY TUBE. THAT'S A TUBE THROUGH HER ABDOMEN INTO HER STOMACH. SHE NEEDS NURSING SERVICES 24/7. HER SPECIAL BED COST OVER $17000 AND HER LIFTS AND BREADING APPARATUS COST MORE THAN A YEARS PAY WORKING AT McDONALDS. THE DIAPERS, SPECIAL LIQUID DIETS AND MEDICAL ATTENTION WOULD BANKRUPT ANY FAMILY. MY POOR DAUGHTER, WHO IS A VERY HIGHLY SUCCESSFUL MARINE BIOLOGIST AND MY SON IN LAW WHO OWNS A VERY SUCCESSFUL CAR REPAIR BUSINESS CAN NOT AFFORD THE COST OF GIVING MY GRANDDAUGHTER A LIFE OF JUST A LITTLE DIGNITY. THANKS TO SOCIAL SECURITY AND STATE HELP THEY DO GIVE HER THIS. SHE'S 21. SHE'S ON BORROWED TIME, SO, DON'T COME TO ME THAT THE EXTRA EFFORT IS NOT WORTH IT. OH, BTW, SHE DOES NOT WORK.
By #588327 at 09,Feb,20 14:13
Why do you think you deserve the 1% people money ? Look at Bill Gates. He made a product lots of people wanted to use. So he got very rich. He can't take his money with him. So he is now giving it away to people and groups he think are good. If I don't like what someone do charging I don't buy their stuff. Apple computer s and iPhone all have 30% profit built into the price. Look at how much money Apple has. Look how cheap they pay the people that built the iPhone. They don't need that much money.

We decided if the product is something we want to have or not. I don't see how you think you deserve their money. What if we say your making to much money ? You don't really need that much money. That's not how we do things. You can work hard and hopefully better yourself or your family

That's the freedom we have. Look at other countries around the world. We have the best life style. Part of that is because if you work hard you benefit yourself or your family. Maybe you choose to send your kids to collage.


I have deal for you. I will go along with free college and free heath insurance for every one. I want something in return, I'm not paying for and then let people not work. I want free jobs for everyone ! The free part is just a play on the free college and free health care. It sound great don't you think ?

So the deal is, everyones has to work. We will have a data base of every job opening and you now HAVE to work. Even if you don't like the job. First choice would be job in your college education area. If their not an open job you will work some job. We are going to force you and them to work. We are going to take away your freedom to choose how and when you work. You might have to move to North Dakota if their is a job opening.

Does that sound like a good deal? Can you not see how bad that would be. You might have to do my job and work 70 hour every week. If I'm help paying for your heath care now, I'm interested in what you eat or smoke or drink. Because it costing me money. You don't need to drink anything but water. No way you should be drinking soda it has to much sugar.


The good side of Social security is to help your granddaughter and her family so they can have some dignity. I think everyone would agree. Helping her and her family is something we should do. We can't do it for everyone, that doesn't feel like working or just let people scam the system. We should not set up a system that people benefit more from NOT working.

Because people will take advantage of that. The system will get so big we will lose control. People will think free high school education is not good enough. Now we need a free college. Because they don't see any disadvantage. They're not paying the taxes to give the free stuff. We don't have unlimited money. Stop free college, so social security can help your granddaughter. People have a breaking point. You try and tax and take to much away from them. They will just stop working because the benefits are better if you don't work
By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 14:24
You are assuming that people don't like to work. You are also assuming that it's ok to force people to do something they don't like to do. That baby is what the world's biggest economy does. China puts you to work weather you like it or not were ever they want you to work. Despite your brainwashing by the far right, most people want to work. Many work in positions they hate but suck it up because it's good for them and their families. You also have to do things in moderation. Ideas are good. Achieving them may or may not be possible, but, isn't it worth the effort? BTW. God made man with a thirst for knowledge. Work is needed to keep a healthy mind and body. You believe people are naturally dishonest and want to scam the system. That's a very poor opinion of your fellow man.
By #588327 at 09,Feb,20 17:02
Today their are more jobs then people. If anyone wants a job. They can have one. When you put out free benefits that are better then a job. Naturally people will take the free benefits. The best option is a good economy, then people can choose what they want to do. They can work and some people will choose not to work. I hope everyone that wants to work does have a job. Can you honestly say Obama years economy was better then today.
By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 17:09
Petro, Yes, I can say that Obama's economy was better. Remember that Bush Jr's economy went bust with the end of the housing bubble. Obama inherited that problem and he turned it around. Obama's policies is what has fueled the economic recovery that still is going on now and the one Trumpo is claiming he is responsible for.
Don't take my word for it or any news you consider FAKE NEWS GENERATORS. Go see what respected economists say about it. And not just American ones. Foreign think tanks say the same. Remember the economic disaster affected all the world's economies.
By #588327 at 10,Feb,20 02:24
If your saying Obama in inherited Bush economy failure. How long into Obama do you claim Bush jr was responsible for ? Would you say 4 years ? Because we will apply the same stand to Trump. Meaning 4 years into Trump's time his economy policy it having a effort. So you can't keep claiming Obama for ever. If you want to believe it's 4 years then Trump economy is now taking affect. It still less unemployment then Obama. The stock market is up and less people on food stamps. Everything is better with Trump !
By #610414 at 10,Feb,20 03:09
Wrong. Trump brought in less jobs. Check it out. Besides, Obama took over a bankrupted country. Trump took over a smooth running economy. The he stock market is up but it was down. Obama had the same but what happens in Wall Street does not equate to good economy for the average worker. Trump is riding the Obama economic wave.
By #588327 at 10,Feb,20 06:12
The lower unemployment rate today at 3.6 vs 6.6 in 2014 under Obama. Don't mean anything to you.
By #610414 at 10,Feb,20 13:49
THAT IS TRUE BUT NOT THE WHOLE STORY.

Current US Unemployment Rate Statistics and News
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BY KIMBERLY AMADEO
Updated February 07, 2020
In January 2020, the unemployment rate was 3.6%.1 That's slightly higher than December's 3.5% rate, the lowest since December 1969.


The January rate is at the 3.5% to 4.5% natural rate of unemployment. If unemployment is less than the natural rate, businesses can't find enough workers to keep operating at full capacity. That could slow economic growth.

The number of long-term unemployed remained at 1.2 million. Those are people who have been searching for jobs for 27 weeks or more.

The real unemployment rate was 6.9%2. It includes those who are underemployed and marginally attached. The real rate also contains 337,000 discouraged workers. These are people who have given up looking for work but would take a job if it were offered.

NOTICE THE SECOND PARAGRAPH AND IT'S OPENING SENTENCE. THIS IS REPORTED JANUARY 2020.
By #588327 at 10,Feb,20 14:40
So what's your point are you saying the 3.6 is really 6.9 ? If that your point then we need to do the same to Obama 6.6 we have use use the same scale.

I found a Forbs magazine report that said the real unemployment for August in 2014 was 12.6. Your very lose with your numbers. So who do you think is better Obama at 12.6 or Trump at 6.9
By #610414 at 10,Feb,20 16:22
Obama, of course. He wasn't a sex pervert or liar, and he certainly did not do any impeachable offences while president.
By #591921 at 15,Feb,20 05:03
Yea giving guns to a cartel isn't impeachable, you do know he did have an impeachment hearing look it up. Inky thing is conservatives knew they didn't have enough votes to actually impeach so they didn't do it.
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Also an investigation into your parties election rival an illegal investigation that is. Only he didn't have enough time left in office to go through impeachment on that one.
By #610414 at 15,Feb,20 11:28
Blah, blah, blah this. Blah, blah, blah that. You say a lot of things, but, at the end of the day, Obama is regarded as a great president and this fool was impeached.
What next? Obama got golden showers from Russian hookers? Obama got spanked by a porn queen? Maybe his wife wanted BBC and she got friendly with Ron Emanuel?
You keep mentioning "guns to a cartel". Produce proof. Also, produce reasons why, if true, he was not prosecuted. Please don't bring gossip or innuendos. Bring facts.
Same thing about this investigation into his opponent and lack of time to impeach him.
By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 07:27
Fact is he admitted that he did exchange guns to cartels,fact is he did have an impeachment vote but that was back when the rules said you had to have a 2/3 vote to impeach before democrats changed the rules of impeachment so they could do I to Trump. Fact is he admitted the whole thing in a press conference however mot one single associated press affiliate reported it. Hmmmm George Soros has enough associated press newspapers it wasn't reported. Fox reported it. UPI reported it. Hmm wonder why ohh I guess thats fake news that only exists when its convenient for democrats. But on a different note yesterday Four democrats in Tallahassee arrested in top state positions at the capital for stealing $7.3 million from the state coalition for domestic violence. Turns out in order to receive state and federal funds for domestic violence you had to pay to play. They collected money from each domestic violence shelter and pocketing the money. Another 3 democrats arrested in Tallahassee city government under Andrew Gilliam they misused federal money smuggled it from contracts to put in their pockets. Andrew Gilliam was taken into custody months ago for questioning after he walked out of federal court and paid his fines for taking illegal gifts from undercover FBI agents. He was fined $50,000 for illegal acceptance of gifts by an elected official. Hmmm and the women arrested yesterday were all part of a Democrat group that funded all democrats in elections. Hmmm Another big Andrew Gilliam contributor arrested for Medicare fraud a Doctor in Tallahassee over $60 million in fraud of federal Medicare. Looks like the democrats are using stolen federal money to run campaigns all around the state capitol. And that was on my local news but I'm sure you'll say thats all fake news after all its not CNN
By #610414 at 19,Feb,20 14:58

PROOF BABY?????????










By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 14:16
The housing bubble that happened as a result of them lowering the rules for mortgages during the Clinton admin.
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Who actually admitted in a ABC interview that if they didn't win the Whitehouse they were going to file bankruptcy even with the retirement pay as governor of
By #610414 at 19,Feb,20 15:01
OK, CLINTON PRESIDENCY, JAN 1993 TO JAN 2001, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE 8 YRS BUSH JR WAS PRESIDENT? WE ONLY TAKE INTO ACCOUNT DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCIES? YEAH!! HAHA.




By phart at 10,Feb,20 03:48 other posts of phart 
the older generations didn't mind work nearly as much as the folks under 35.If they could lay in bed with a iron lung to take care of the breathing and a iv tube and a catheder,they would do nothng but fumble on their telephones all day everyday.







By phart at 08,Feb,20 23:22 other posts of phart 
If you build a building on a shaky foundation it will crack and creek and maby even fall.
For whatever reason,it is still legal for 16 year olds to drop out of a public school. A FREE to them high school diploma to help them get a better start.
Fix that problem first. There should be NO high school drop outs. I know I Know , back 40-50 years ago Billy bob had to quit school to work and buy moma's thyroid pills.
But that is no longer a excuse.
And another thing,DONT pass a kid thru a grade just to keep his ,hers or it's parents from getting angry.If a kid can't read or write,hold it back until it can.
And I watched Trumps speach friday and I loved it when he was talking about putting vocational classes back in school and technical colleges. Very good news. Those classes I took in high school help me every day in 1 way or another.
I can keep a bank balance,maintain my vehicals,grow food,cook basic meals, repair things around the home,thanks to vocational classes in HIGH SCHOOL. Put that back in,people will learn things that will get them thru life better.
Proper houseing,I over heard a local city councilman complaining about that very thing a few weeks ago. They had proposed buying some land and getting some federal money for houseing.Low income houseing.The feds turned down their request. You want to know why? The housing was to "basic" in it's design.Not enough archetectrual inspriation.The government mandated the low income housing look equal to or BETTER than surrounding area. BETTER than surrounding area.In basic english the feds were saying they wanted to spend TAX dollars, to provide BETTER housing to low income folks that the folks paying the damn BILL For it.
And you wonder why I balk? Sure,nothing wrong with provideing some basic housing. warmth and food until they get on their feet.But not a better house than most people have that are paying thier own way.NO way. that is totaly unfair.
Have you never heard the storys about the government and their contracts? How things cost so much more thru them than private interprise? read about it.
Sure, on the surface they appear to use cheap shit.But reasearch it.They don't
By #610414 at 08,Feb,20 23:46
Phart, I won't argue any of these points. What I will say is that the vote is not only a way to get a government but also, a huge stick to beat government assholes out of office. One thing I will tell about my family. Charlie went to basic college after high school to become an electronics tech. It took him 18 months and after the first 6 months he was working for the Xerox Corp as a tech. He built his entire career from that, so I know what you are saying. My youngest son went to computer school after high school. He's very successful as an IT tech. You might be interested that in many countries high school is a vocational school. They have different types. In one the student gets a basic teaching degree. In another the student graduates as a basic tech ready to get a job in any type of tech work. In another the student comes out as a clerical worker, ready to be a bookkeeper or bank worker. These kids go directly into the job market before they reach 20 yrs. They also loose out if they fail any subject in any year and are unable to make it up. Tough education, but, it's totally free. Here, in the states, there are as many different school systems as there are states and yet, the curriculum is laughable. Kids come out not knowing much of anything.
Anyway, getting back to your case about public housing There should have been demonstrations, court action, lawsuits, and the promise to actively campaign for the removal of the management in Washington.
The over-pricing of public projects is nothing more that graft. It has to be rooted out, but you need an honest head of government to lead in this. Today, I don't know anyone like that, but, quiting the effort is not an option.




By #591921 at 17,Feb,20 16:53
Yeah huge difference in the two its spelled different is about all.
By #610414 at 18,Feb,20 01:27
Overeight, if that's what you believe, I won't try to change your mind. What I will say, and this is what I BELIEVE, is that you have a very distorted comprehension of the true facts. However, as I've said before, bring proof to the discussion. So far all you've done is bring innuendo, gossip, and third rate redneck rhetoric to the pot but absolutely no proof. Bring proof.



By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 04:50
He would be a Democrat savior if he was gay and grabbing men's cocks your right. Look at Kevin Spacey no time at all only a fine.




By #591921 at 18,Feb,20 03:03
Can you believe the petty media. Yesterday I watched the start of the Daytona 500 and Trump was the grand Marshall of the race. Well this morning watching the news they said the stands were nearly empty because Trump was the grad Marshall of the race. However yesterday at the beginning of the race officials said it was the most people the Daytona 500 had at the park in over 8 years. How petty will the mainstream associated press get to make just one more negative report about anything they can make up out if the blue to try and make him look bad. Its abhorrent and absurd that they stop so low just to make up a lie,its like there democrats or something. Hahahaha

By #591921 at 18,Feb,20 03:19
Oh yeah by the way I saw Stacey Abrams today on the view I hate the idiots in there but had to listen to see what they had to say today. Just like the time they praised Micheal Abinotti as the savior and actually called him the savior warrior of the democrats. Good luck with those 96 years in prison Mike.hahahaha well anyway today she said on Iowa only 12% of democrats casted a vote in the caucuses and in New Hampshire only 14% cast a vote in the primaries. And on top of that democrats couldn't get counting only 12% of its bad there right. But what I figure is those who didn't bother were at the Trump stage watching him. 96% of Republicans cacused and 92% in New Hampshire both record turnouts in recorded history.hmmm how about that.




By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 14:32
She sure is back. Poor Petro couldn't get his facts right so, naturally, he went after the messenger (crazy lady). I don't know who started the thread.
Herbert, the forums are for the posting of anything you like as long as you stay on the right side of the site rules. It does not, nor should it have something to do with Showitoff or SYD/SYC. If you notice there are about 190 pages full of threads.Most are very deep like "Am I gay because I suck dick?" or "Do I dare?". Some of us like more serious subjects. If you want more salacious content I suggest you visit my page. I love to sex chat
By #591921 at 12,Feb,20 02:18
How is corporate tax not tax most people only pay aroud 18% income tax,corporations pay 32% corporate tax how is that not paying tax.
By phart at 12,Feb,20 02:43 other posts of phart 
Most folks know unions,high wage exspense,over regulation and over taxing is what sent alot of our jobs overseas.
Taxing the rich or corperationss will just prompt the rich to leave the country or invest even MORE of their money in off shore accounts.Why work for it and then give up a unfair share of it to folks that don't work? It takes away the incentive to work more than just enough to get by if at all.

UNless you can pen up the rich where they can't get out of the US, you won't over tax them very long.Nor will you over tax corperations,they will just move or close.
Then where will all the money come from for the freebiees?
It is similar to the idiots killing the goose that laid golden eggs trying to get all the gold at once.

By #610414 at 12,Feb,20 14:14
Who said that, Overeight? And that 32%? This article came out last year (April 2019)

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Big companies have long relied on strategies to reduce their tax bills. But the new tax law is making it even easier, with a new analysis finding that 60 profitable Fortune 500 companies paid no taxes on a total of $79 billion of profits earned in 2018.


The companies, which include tech giants such as Amazon and Netflix, should have paid a collective $16.4 billion in federal income taxes based on the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act's 21 percent corporate tax rate, according to the left-leaning Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. Instead, these corporations received a net tax rebate of $4.3 billion. The analysis is based on the corporations' annual financial reports, which were filed earlier this year to report their 2018 results.

Defenders of the corporate cuts under the tax law that took effect this year, which lowered the rate companies pay to 21 percent from from 35 percent, contend they will plump profits, drive investment and boost economic growth. Opponents say the drop in corporate income tax revenue will grow the deficit and make it harder to fund public programs.

THEY PREDICT IT WILL BE WORSE THIS YEAR. SO, IN MY BOOK, AND IN ANYBODY'S BOOK, INCLUDING THE IRS, THAT IS PAYING NO TAX. YOU KNOW, BABY, ALL THIS IS EASY TO RESEARCH. BEFORE YOU OPEN YOUR MOUTH (OR GET YOUR FINGERS TYPING) AT THE VERY LEAST, GOOGLE WHAT YOUR PREMISE IS. I'LL BE THE FIRST TO AGREE WITH YOU IF YOUR FACTS ARE RIGHT. PLEASE NOTICE THAT EVEN IF YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT BIG BUSINESS PAYING TAXES, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ONLY 21% AS THE RATE WAS LOWERED.
By phart at 12,Feb,20 14:56 other posts of phart 
Has Amazon or Netflix or any major corperation had major layoffs lately? Um,Could it be they are making money and are able to afford to pay people to work? That is more important than taxes,is people working and not living off the system.
By #610414 at 12,Feb,20 15:03
Amazon is laying off hundreds of employees, a source familiar with the matter told CNN. The majority of the layoffs are affecting the company's Seattle headquarters, but some global teams may be affected as well, according to the source. The process of notifying employees has already started, the source said.

Actually this is old news but, companies seldom think of their employees when they make more money. New news is that they are laying off in their Whole Foods division


I guess they are making too much money to be able to keep them.

By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 16:04
Well on a local note around here FDLE arrested a local Democrat property appraiser for using county collections for personal expenses and travel to Democrat party meetings. Another city mayor(Democrat) fired along with 5 of her sisters and cousins for nepotism and misuse of federal dollars and city money donated to DNC for elections. Its systemic around here. Democrats stealing government money to give to the party. Georgia too a mayor caught using public funds to pay party dues and donations to DNC. How about Corinne Democrat house of representatives who was convicted and currently spending prison time for her underprivileged black child college fund. Her charity took in over $6.8 million int the five years she had it. Paid $4k for one students college. But they had some hum dinger salaries for the workers and for parties celebrating black education promotion for employees.


By #591921 at 12,Feb,20 15:03
Your article only centered on two companies so you think Plumbers and electricians and carpenters or supply houses not home depot or lowes now but local supply houses. Hardware stores local companies that corporated so they could file in a different tax class and try and manage their business so they could provide insurance,retirement,paid time off and sick days for employees. So you think they should be charged double the tax because of a few companies who have the accountants on the payroll to figure out how to avoid tax. Thats taking money and benefits away from the blue collar and giving it to the government.
By #610414 at 12,Feb,20 15:16
You really don't know how it works, do you? A company makes a profit and loss statement and pays taxes on the bottom line. Employee benefits are part of that. The taxes are not taken out before the workers get their share (payroll and health insurance and retirement). No one is taking it from the Blue or white collar worker. What a company can or can't afford depends on how good that business is. It depends on the business's ability to sell it's product or services to customers. The PROFITS after all their EXPENSES are what's taxed. I mentioned just two big businesses here, but, go research it and you'll find that there are scores of big and semi-big companies that are the same. As far as plumbers, electricians and carpenters are concerned, they operate as an INDEPENDENT CONTRACTOR and pay their taxes similar to private citizens except they are not required to pay them every time they collect for a job.
Lastly, yes, I do believe they should be charged double or more. When their CEO's make indecent yearly income? You bet!!!!!
By #591921 at 19,Feb,20 07:54
Indecent income has what they should be double taxed because they worked their asses of and built a corporation that provides bunches of jobs and provides services. I worked for a man who made about $18 million a year from his plumbing business because he started out as a helper just like I did. I made over $60k a year plus had free health insurance plus matched my retirement plus 3weeks paid vacation per year. Plus had 10 paid holidays plus 7 paid sick days a year. And a $1500 a year Christmas bonus. And I was supplied with the best equipment money could buy. Always drove a truck no older than 3 years old he traded any truck once ot reached four years old. Radio dispatched and provided a work cell phone. Plus a beeper for on cal time. On call paid double pay if you got a call. So I suppose thats making indecent money huh. He probably pocketed about $2.3 million a year to be honest. But his company was worth about $40 million with the property,trucks,tractors,ditch witches,telescopic rioters,locaters,regular rootersand the company cars for the secretary and supply runners. He had a very good top notch highly respected well managed and financially sound business. But if his taxes were doubled I would have lost all my matching retirement,paid time off,and insurance. So you mean to tell me that wouldn't effect the blue collar workers bringing home pay and benefits. He flat out told us look I can only provide this stuff to you guys if the taxes dont go up. If it goes up I can't do that anymore period. And no I'm not an accountant by any means but one of my best friends wife is. And I used to have her keep my financials right. Thats why the FICA was 800. I refuse to use or have a credit card so my score wouldn't go any higher. I might not know everything about accounting but I have very good advice about what to do.








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By phart at 20,Feb,20 15:09 other posts of phart 
Here is a fine example of Trump doing the right thing despite alot of liberal hoopla.
Would you rather your state burn for weeks on end,have parched lips and your farm land dry up to a dust bowl,just so a few finger size fish can swim happy and not have to fight a bit larger water current? Or would you rather eat,and your farms be green and productive because all the water bottled up somewhere else is finally able to flow to you?
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By #610414 at 20,Feb,20 16:05
It's dubious but, perhaps, some good may come out of this. The central valley region of California is the biggest food producing region of the country. Fruit and vegetables being the biggest crops. It's true that California's water policies may be a bit draconian, but, they have reached a mayor compromise between the little farmers, the cities like Los Angeles and the big farming combines. The big boys in the central valley consider 160 acre plots to be back yard plots. These huge conglomerates have sunk loads of cash to the elections. Much money is riding on this, hence, Old Donny to the rescue.
It's funny that he is always spouting how state rights are paramount. Always saying The Feds get too involved in state matters and here he is, jumping in with both feet.
By phart at 20,Feb,20 21:33 other posts of phart 
Sad that he had to really. You would think the states governement would put the needs of it's people above that of a small fish that will simply modify it's methods.1 thing I do not support Trumps ideas on is using corn for fuel. Sea weed or something,fine,but not corn. We humans can eat corn,and there are to many people hungry that could be eating that corn.Some will tell you the corn they use is the wrong variety to make human food with but the cows we eat could be eating the corn.
I am a second hand vegitarian.Cows eat grass and corn,I eat cows.
By #610414 at 20,Feb,20 22:07
California is a state that really cares about it's people. If a state passes laws to protect a species and the estuary they inhabit and the people were against it, don't you think that after 30 years (how long it's been around) the people would have petitioned and voted that law out? The people supported it. Big business did not but, since they couldn't get it off the books, they got their buddy to get involved. Some president.





By #591921 at 17,Feb,20 16:47
Its hilarious to me that now the associated press is reporting that the stands at the Daytona 500 were nearly empty because Trump was the Grand Marshall of the race. However before Trump showed up when I was watching they claimed it was time biggest crowd that had attended the 500 in over 8 years. Its so petty but the associated press made a point to say it and its a flat out lie. Hahaha
By phart at 18,Feb,20 18:11 other posts of phart 
They don't know their ass from third base!



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By #610414 at 10,Feb,20 18:22
KEEP SUPPORTING HIM. HOPE YOU GET WHAT YOU DESERVE

WASHINGTON — President Trump released a $4.8 trillion budget proposal on Monday that includes a familiar list of deep cuts to student loan assistance, affordable housing efforts, food stamps and Medicaid, reflecting Mr. Trump’s election-year effort to continue shrinking the federal safety net.

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By phart at 10,Feb,20 18:37 other posts of phart 
Well think about it,if they can't afford college,or a house,how will they afford to pay back what they borrow?
And he is putting money into different programs that should improve things quickly.Have you not read or heard about the black college funding? Have you not read about the justice reform which consist of helping prisoners get jobs when they get out of jail? Those programs need funding.So you take funding away from what hasn't worked for the past 3 or more decades and you put it somewhere else.
By #607191 at 10,Feb,20 20:27
If you travel in western Europe you hardly see any itinerant or homeless people. There are some of course but you will have to look for them. In general cities look okay, with no real ghetto's or no go-areas. The safety-net is more or less working. No ostentious wealth, no obvious poverty in general

If you travel through China you'll be astounded by the amount of expensive, luxury cars (Mostly Mercedes, Audi, Volkswagen or the big Japanese SUV's.) People are well-dressed, you will see no graffity anywhere, the streets are very, very clean and there is well-kept green in abundance. Public transport is clean and very modern.
People look quite happy and on Sundays come out in drones with the whole family. Well dressed and looking quite salubrious.
In the bigger cities there are loads of dealers of Ferrari, Lamborghini, Rolls Royce and Bentley. It's not difficult to find a street with 15 or more shops in a row selling luxury watches like Rolex, Cartier, Breitling, Patek Philippe, Lange &Sohn etc with each item costing $50.000 or more.
It's a horrible country in many ways (the state and it's camera's are everywhere)but it's a society with a booming economy and many people seem to profit.

If you travel the USA you see derelict buildings on the outskirts of every major city.Industries in decline. There are many beggars, homeless people line the streets in certain areas. It cannot escape the eye that there is a lot of misery next to great wealth and that society is unsafe in many places (locked storewindows, gated communities, armed guards). Graffity abounds, there is unsafe drinking water in many places and in some parts of the bigger cities the streets are full of rubbish.
The number of terribly obese people is staggering (you won't see any cops with big bellies in China or Europe) and in the country you can see lots of young people walking nowhere with all their belongings in a rucksack and a dog without a lease to keep them company.No happy furure for most of them on the horizon. It's easy to find drugs and the relics of it's use.
It's a society seemingly in decline on the whole with patches of prosperity.
The USA doesn't look too good in comparision with other industrialised states.To fall into poverty is easy, to realise the American Dream never a prospect for many. Dismantling a safety-net that isn't really there, doesn't seem like a good idea.
To make America great again for everyone seems like an impossible task.
By phart at 11,Feb,20 00:32 other posts of phart 
I worked with a black fellow for a short time and we got along great.I could ask him questions I would not feel "comfortable" asking other folks of color.
We were in a predominatily black neighborhood 1 day and there was trash everywhere.Bottles, cans, paper. I ask him,"why don't these folks clean this place up a bit?". There was trash cans there put out by the city. Some of the garbage was actually bags. But he said, "these people are poor" I ask how that prevented them from picking up a empty bag,and putting trash in it and putting it in a provided can along their way around the block.He really couldn't answer it.He thought about it alot after that.
It does not make sense to some folks about poverty being a exscuse for filth.It is not.You can live in a camper trailer on a vacant lot and keep it clean,the trash picked up,and so on.A mansion can fall into disrepair quickly.So can a camper or mobile home.
No home,still does not mean you can't go shit in a local service station and FLUSH.You don't have to squat and shit and step to the side of it and sit down.
People on drugs created alot of the homelessness. You have to fix that first.No need to put a filthy drug addic in a new house.He will just trash it up with his shit and needles.You have to clean up his ways and his mind first for any help to do any good.
The finished product of a Happy,Productive,American,requires good stock to create it from.
By #591921 at 11,Feb,20 00:51
The person who caught her should gave asked for a selfie with her hahaha

By #607191 at 11,Feb,20 08:49
"The finished product of a Happy,Productive,American,requires good stock to create it from."

I sure hope this doesn't mean what it says.
By phart at 11,Feb,20 21:28 other posts of phart 
Well what do you think it means? You can't send a drug addict to college and he really learn anything until you get him cleaned up? Kinda hard to send someone to college that made straight D's in high school and expect them to make A's in college. Remember,a doctor that made all C-'s could be your next heart surgeon!
By #607191 at 11,Feb,20 22:42
I read "good stock" as genetically superior.Glad I'm mistaken

I have been in teaching most of my career and agree with the above.
Fortunately I have had my four bypasses and valve from a well qualified team

By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 23:49
Phart, how many straight D students do you expect to be accepted into college?
By #591921 at 12,Feb,20 01:11
Probably depends on how rich the family is look at the scandal thats evolving now with celebrities. And they aren't the only people with plenty of money in the US. Just have to buy some grades now days get you in any college.
By phart at 12,Feb,20 02:14 other posts of phart 
Ding ding we have a winner.
No I did not mean eugenics wise on "good stock".
Some princeables of the science of eugenics have merit but it can't be used in modern society due to the stigma placed on the entire concept by Hitler.







By #591921 at 11,Feb,20 00:39
Well with only a 3% unemployment rate not lots of people need food stamps now anyway. He is also starting a opioid recovery program to help people who had addiction problems so they dint fall back and so those who have drug addiction of all types can get help recovering. That alone will help the crime that by the way is at the lowest level in 40years now.
By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 23:59
Overeight, Food stamps are mostly used by families that work. As a matter of fact, now, Don't they have to show they are working or looking for work? Food is one of the biggest expense in a household budget. You really think a single mother working at a fast food joint and supporting kids can make ends meet?
Look, if your Messiah is able to help any part of this country's ills, so much the better, but, you have to stop assuming that because this is now, that is helped. The crime rate has been falling since the early nineties. That's Clinton twice, Bush twice, Obama twice and now Trump. Of course, as usual, he tells you a partial truth.


By #591921 at 11,Feb,20 00:48
Well people could just vote for hipicritical Elizabeth Warren. She preaches tax the rich they have it made take there money and go e it to the poor. Then she gets caught taking her private jet to Iowa and to New Hampshire. Then when she got off her private jet she saw a person recording her getting off the plane and hides behind one of her campaign workers and then put a jacket over her head. But they clearly caught her in her Private Jet. Hahaha yeah right like she is going to tax people who have private jets and have access to live the high life. Hahahaha yeah right.
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Yeah go get another free grant for school Elizabeth and say you American Indian on your paperwork again. My ex wife is native and calling someone American Indian is a very big insult to natives.
By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 01:12
OVEREIGHT, I gather you don't like Elizabeth Warren. Will you vote for her? I'm betting NO. And that's ok, but, in order for most of us to decide whom we are going to vote for, we must know know what she wants to do. You don't like her? Vote for someone else. You don't like how she refers to your native American ex-wife as American Indian? Call her campaign and complain. Now, Mr Trump, being super rich himself, gave corporations and top 1 persenters, a huge tax break. Are you saying that if he had increased their taxes he would be just like Elizabeth Warren?
BTW. If your ex is highly insulted about how she's described, she might consider that most people have no knowledge what the proper terminology is. I would be very highly insulted that a member of American society had such little knowledge of how other groups, without malice, refer to her. Perhaps, if she would tell us from what nation she's from, we could address her that way.


By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 00:56
Why do you always think that help has to be conditional on the ability to pay back? Would you agree that a family that has a roof over their head will probably be less dangerous to society than a homeless person? Would you also agree that a college trained engineer would contribute more to society than high school graduate? Would you not agree that a hungry person is more apt to hold up a liquor store? Could you not agree that children who lack the proper, minimal, nutrition would be more sickly and be a heavier burden on public hospitals?
As far as the system reform for ex-cons, I'm all for it, but, it's us liberals that support that. You conservatives don't want to help ex-cons. Heck, in Florida, just last year they allowed ex-cons to get their civil rights back. It took a well know liberal lawyer to mount a petition for a referendom in the 2018 elections. Even though it passed there were a lot of blocks to getting it passes.
Public housing does work. The section 8 program provides lots of housing in big cities. @ow cost public colleges and tech schools are always full. They just need more help not less
By phart at 11,Feb,20 01:16 other posts of phart 
It is a commitment.It is letting the people giving the help know that the person being helped is serious about making a change in their lives. If you start handing out college degrees like candy on the corner,first off companys won't see it as a asset like it used to be,they will know it was a freebie and not really earned.And second the people it was given to won't appreciate it.
It is hard enough to get kids that are paying somehow to go to college to actually pay attention and study.

You need to ride thru the "projects" sometime. Not a pretty site.
I know someone whos son lived in section 8 for awhile. Rats running everywhere,filth everywhere,he left and gave it up and lived in a tent for a while until something better came up.Cleaner.
Why is a hungry person holding up a liquir store? UM, should be holding up a grocery store for milk and beef jurky or something. As for the cons, IF the idea works and the con actually wants to improve I have no quams with it at all. but it is those people that so much effort gets wasted on that prompt me to think there should be a limit on how much help is doled out before the plug gets pulled.
By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 02:45
You are giving one-off examples. There are plenty of apartment complexes in Miami that are section 8 and very nice. You also ASSUME that someone that gets financial help with their college are going to be lazy and not study. Where I come from students like that get kicked out of their learning institutions. Perhaps you live in an area that has more rats and schools are for partying
By phart at 11,Feb,20 21:30 other posts of phart 
That section 8 housing that looks nice right now,check back in 5 years.
By #591921 at 11,Feb,20 22:50
Latest food stamp fraud case in history Imoclee Florida. A middle eastern guy who owned multiple convenient stores and a flea market busted with 1.3 million in food stamp cards. He traded any items at his flea market for immigrants food stamp cards and bought supplies for his stores with the cards he also had a food stamp acceptance registration and took food stamps for beer and cigarettes in his stores. Here in the small town I live in 13 people were arrested for food stamp fraud having 4 or more food stamp accounts. The way they got busted was because they worked 6 days a week at the employment agency because to get food stamps you must work 20hours a week trying to find employment or have proof of legal income that isn't sufficient to meet your needs. My city just outside Tallahassee only has 42,000 people. So you can't say everybody that gets it needs it. Yes people need it but they should have to be kept track of. If they need it they wont care. If I'm starving fine track me I don't care just give me some food. Plus here in this small town 8 shootings in section 8 housing last year. The US mail refused to deliver mail there for 3 months.68 drug arrest if babies daddies 36 arrest on running a drug house. Now all that activity has moved out in the county not in town anymore. Section8 apartments are at a record low. In my county unemployment is only 7.3 % down from 4 years ago at 27.4% so I went down 20.1%. Just in my little county.
By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 23:22
Overeight, I don't get your point. If you are saying that crime happens everywhere than I agree. I also agree that it's easy to waffle the food stamp program. The scam where recipients that sell them for a portion of the value to use it for booze or drugs is as old as the program. And a grocer that accepts food stamps for beer or wine is also as old as the system, but, in this case, I can understand it. I agree that if a house is a den of drugs and violence the US postal service should cut delivery
What I want to know is this. Is every operatio, every account, every recipient crooked? In your area yo have Publix, Walmart, and a few other supermarkets. Are they crooked? Are their millions of food stamps gotten illegally?
I don't know why you are bitching about a program that helps the public.........unless you don't qualify and are envious.
By #591921 at 12,Feb,20 02:11
I'm not envious at all I simply think if you can get a job that has enough income you shouldn't be on food stamps. I bought my house at age 24 so its paid off. I was disabled at age 48 I was denied collecting SSDI because I had a retirement that I put 20% of my income into since I was 25. That I actually had yo give 33% of yo the government because I was to young to collect on it. So to be honest o was penalized for doing the right thing. I worked my butt off for over 30 years a full time job. Raised my kids on my money. Saved and suffered paid all my taxes and then had to give 33% of my money I put up after taxes in taxes again. Then had to pay 12% in penalties for early withdrawal. I'm just pissed I was taxed twice for doing what your supposed to do. So just what will you do when income taxes are raised to 62% for working class like Bernie and Warren want to do. You fo know thats what he said he wanted right. Then Warren is promising she want to give everybody in America free medical,free college,free prescriptions,free free free. Claims she will just tax corporations (except George Soros that is) and just what do you think will be the result if raising corporate taxes to 60%. Hmmm lets see what we can cut from the budget here hmmm lets see how about the labor we can cut that drastically to pay the extra taxes eureka. Oh we have to pay people 25 an hour cool cut labor again. Hmmm well we are losing to much money I the US lets just pack up and leave before the tax hoes up to 75%. Did you know in Denmark what Bernie wants to model the US after for example yes average annual income is over $100,000 a year,income tax is 62%. One gallon of gas cost $22 dollars,that pays for dental. Electricity the bill is 32% higher than it us here. All doctors get $ 1 million a year before taxes because its state run and controlled,you are required to take a two year rest after every 15 years without income reimbursement you have to just save up to get by. All corporations must turn in a true profit report to determine how much tax they must pay based on profit above the corporate tax. Just think about it. How many people in the US can corporations support without any if them working,and for how long. How ling will ylthey stay in the US having to do that
By #610414 at 12,Feb,20 02:22
Overeight. After reading your post I've come to the conclusion the moon is made of cheese. Elvis and Kennedy are alive in a Greek island. We never made it to the moon. The world is flat. Thank you for a great story.




By #610414 at 11,Feb,20 23:13
Phart, I'm sorry to disagree. These properties are kept up very well. I don't know how they do it in your are, but in Miami-Dade county, they do inspections and if the tenant is a real pig, he gets thrown out,
By #591921 at 12,Feb,20 01:19
I had a friend who owned 7 section 8 housing complexes,they get inspected once a year. They hire companies to come in a couple of months before inspection to make repairs to make inspection. The rest of the year they don't give a crap. That is until now they have quarterly inspections since Ben Carson started running it.
By phart at 12,Feb,20 02:20 other posts of phart 
Ding ding again. It is all setup so the renovations are done shortly before inspection so the place looks sharp. Someone at the inspectors office typically leaks out when they will inspecting certian places. In the case I am aware off, drugs were exchanged for a heads up on when inspections happened.Sad,very sad that it is true,people get bribed in all lines of work.
I know of folks that rented mobile hoomes out and when they finally get the trashy people out of them,they just burn them down for practice for the fire department as they are to rough to repair.Plumbing stolen for scrap,holes in walls and crap all over the place.
I am glad the section 8 is good in your area,maby that news needs to spread so they can move down to the sunshine state!










By #610494 at 10,Feb,20 14:16
Can't get away from politics no natter where you go. Keep politics off the site. It's for fun, not starting arguments. Go onto Facebook if you really need your dose of politics. You really think arguing with people about politics is going to change ANYBODY'S mind? FUCK NO! So what's the point?
By phart at 10,Feb,20 14:49 other posts of phart 
the point is people that are making stupid mistakes when they vote,like voting democrat,don't go places where you would normaly seek truth and guidance.So you have to attempt to bring the education to them.And hope they at least take a second look at reality and think for awhile about the consquences of their actions.
Had Hillary been elected in 2016, the terrorist recently killed because of orders from Trump would still be reeking menance to society.North Korea would think the US was a bunch of pussy's, and the mexican border would be like the doors of walmart on friday before Christmas.
You can lead the horses to good water,but they have to decide to drink or perish.

By #610414 at 10,Feb,20 17:36
Jimbo, why don't you go and jackoff? The forums has alway had politics and arguments about everything since day one. You now cum here and want to impose your ideals about the site? Like Phart said, we don't think we will change minds , but, we make undecided ones to think. It's better than having a thread that asks, "Am I gay because I suck dick?" Yeah! Right.
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By #485312 at 09,Feb,20 05:25
yeah that Pelosi woman has that derangement disease for sure... someone shoot her, shes not worth a retirement cheque after the millions shes wasted already.. *lix*
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By #607191 at 09,Feb,20 05:38
someone shoot her??? You've totally gone off the rails posting something like that and joined the community of loonies on the internet.
By phart at 09,Feb,20 14:25 other posts of phart 
Naw,don't want to see her physicaly in any way shape or form. I would much rather see her become minority leader this fall for 4 years under Trump.
By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 17:24
That, Phart, is the way we do things in this country. WE don't try to cheat to get elected.
By phart at 09,Feb,20 21:41 other posts of phart 
Well,don't get to happy yet,I say that because 1,if a person is dead and gone,there is no fixing that person.Also,I don't want another Brady bill or similar going on.That is the knee jurk results of actions like mentioned above.
Besides,I think it would do her good to have to look UP from the audieance instead of down from her perch onto Trump. ANd being miniority leader for 4 years under Trump would remind her everyday her party lost their little costly game.



By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 17:23
sven57a, I didn't think you had it in you.

By #485312 at 10,Feb,20 02:52
no, lm just having my say on all this bullshit you all go on with, who cares what these idiots do in their spare time, while theyre supposed to be running a country..so if you can buy a gun and legally buy it bullets, why not shoot some of these air supping idiots ... its not like the world is short of idiots and overpaid politicians. all routing the system, all taking and not caring about the jobs theyre supposed to be doing. in my world, if it don't work, chuck it out, and if its lame, shoot it .. *lix*


By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 17:21
Lix
$10,000,000 for high energy cost grants within the Rural Utilities Service (RUS)

$9,000,000 for a fruit fly quarantine program

$8,000,000 for the Appalachian Regional Commission (ARC) and the Delta Regional Authority (DRA)

$303,500,000 for the Community Oriented Policing Services (COPS) program

$65,000,000 for Pacific coastal salmon recovery

$7,876,000 for fish passage and fish screens

These are some of the pork barrel spending by Congress. They are pet projects of some congressman and get voted as a "favor"

The impeachment process and trial of President Trump cost less than 4 million dollars. I think the effort to remove a traitor from the highest office in the land was worth it.
By phart at 09,Feb,20 21:43 other posts of phart 
If a batch of fruit flys hit America from somewhere else it could wipe out our fruit trees.And that would be bad.Push come to shove they can print 9 more million.
4 million dollars for all this time and effort on impeachment,that is not a conceivable fiqure.I would say closer to 10 or 12 million at the least.
By #610414 at 09,Feb,20 21:47
Phart, look it up in whatever search engine you like. I didn’t make it up





By #607191 at 05,Feb,20 04:44
From here in Europe it's a gruesome sight how the USA is tearing itself apart. It's the Civil War all over again. No states this time but neighbors hating each others guts.
United we stand, divided we fall?
What once was an insipration to the world (Make Love, Not War) has turned into a nightmare. Both sides to blame.
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By #588327 at 05,Feb,20 05:39
That's all the Trump haters. They are mad Hillary did not win.
By #610414 at 05,Feb,20 17:16
Wrong Petro. Only half of your statement is correct. The Hilary thing is not the real reason as she is old news. It's the lying, cheating, backstabbing and selling out of the next elections we don't like.
By #588327 at 06,Feb,20 07:07
You can vote for anyone you want. All that other stuff. Let's see if we can remember any past president cheating or lying. Remember this line, No New Taxes and other president said, I Did Not Have Sexual Relations with That Woman. Ha ha

You don't have to like the guy. You should vote for the person you want and see who wins. I really like how they would say No Man is Above the law. When it come to illegals in the USA, now enforcing the law is not far or the right thing to do. If we can pick and choose the laws we follow. I have a couple I don't like.

I know it doesn't matter what I say, I can't change you mind. If you don't want Trump to win next election. Just vote him out. Stop believing it's selling out or some or thing. Just like the impeachment thing is all over. They tried but failed once again.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 13:48
I don't vote for the candidate that has the best chance to win. I vote for the most righteous and that one that shares my views. If it was the other way I would be voting for Trumpo. The biggest liar in the world is the one that states "I never lie". Every one does and presidents are no different.
But, if you are honest with yourself, you have to admit this President has taken un-presidential behavior to a brand new level. The corruption in his administration is unprecedented. The lying is world class. His impeachable offences were much more serious than having oral sex with a White House intern. And he was not exonerated by the Senate. Many Republican senators admitted he did do what he was impeached for.
As far as "the illegals" are concerned, why is a humanitarian effort by good Christian people be viewed as an unlawful support of lawlessness and invasion to the country? Granted, it costs us money, it puts a strain on public services in the Southwest. We even have to put up with the likes of Sheriff Arpaio, but, there are 11 million illegals give or take a million in the United States. There are over 320 million citizens in this country. That amounts to less than 3.5% of the total population. And, they are distributed all over the country. Granted, big cities with large Latin population get the brunt, but, so what? The majority work. The majority pay taxes. The majority raise a family, open small businesses and become good citizens. The only thing they don't have is a stupid little green card that sees the light of day only when they change wallets (or purses). Trumpo goes after them because it makes good copy with his base. The base that hates Spics, Ities, Kikes, and liberals. In short, biggots. Otherwise Trumpo couldn't care less.
By #588327 at 06,Feb,20 19:16
Because we have laws you make sounds like the illegals are all hard working people. Remember the one that kill a cop and made a run for the boarder They should follow the same rules we have to. If you want to let more people in the USA you should work on changing the laws. Don't ignore the law you don't like. I'm tired of people running for office and not doing what they say. If Trump gets some stuff done that other people won't do. I'm ok if he not presidential.

Just because some people don't like him it's does not make them correct. I'm not working 70 hours a week so the government can tax me more so illegals or anyone can have free health care or free college education. I'll just stop working like everyone else.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 20:24
I also remember the guy that ran his car into a crowd and killed a lady. What does that prove? There are evil people everywhere. Legals and illegals. Tell me this. Why are there close to a million Cubans in Miami? They arrived illegally and got money and food for free. And why do you think your taxes will go up? Your taxes are at a rate set by the IRS. To change it it has to be passed by Congress (controlled by the Republicans). Why are you against free healthcare or college education? Don't you want to live in a better country? Isn't your Savior spouting "MAGA, MAGA"?
By #588327 at 07,Feb,20 04:32
If our taxes don't go up how do you think we will pay for it ? We are currently 21 Trillion in the hole and you thing free health or free college is an option. If you want to pay the current tax bill off. I'm ok with looking at free health care or college. I got a deal for you, you figure out the money side of it. You can cut any spending the government does now. You can raise the taxes if you want. I don't think you can afford to pay back the current 22 trillion. I'm more then happy to let you figure out the numbers. What do you want to cut in spending now to pay the 22 Trillion.

You MEGA by letting people work and choose how they want to work and live. You don't take away their hard work(money) and give it to someone doing nothing. Because people just like me and you will stop working if you going to take it away from me. I work 70 hours a week to benefit me. Lots of people don't want to work the hours I do. That's their choice. If you or the government can give me heath care for the same price I pay today. I might go for that deal. The truth so far seems it can't be done. They are claim like 3 Trillion a year more in taxes for heath care. That's about $12,000 more in taxes. Can you pay $12,000 this year extra in taxes ?
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 05:39
You have no idea what taxes are for and how the system, including the deficit works, do you.
By #588327 at 07,Feb,20 13:25
I understand how the deficit and taxes. I don't think you do. Because you just want to keep spending money you don't have. Do you understand we have to pay the current 22 trillion back ? You can get the money from the people or business. Do you understand other countries loan us money ? Do you understand if they don't, we don't have any money to keep spending ?

Since your so smart, tell use how you plan on paying the current 22 trillion back, plus the extra 30 Trillion for 10 years for free health care. We are putting you in charge of the money remember corporation don't really pay taxes. The just add the price into a product. They can also move if you tax them to much. Apple computer is pretty good example. If you did not know Apple had like 300 billion cash in Ireland banks keeping it away from USA government taxes.





By #591921 at 07,Feb,20 06:06
That exactly why your wrong right there. I have great neighbors all up and down my street and they are all Hispanics. I have nothing at all against them. I have nothing against them coming here nothing at all. Just do it legally. And if the democrats who control the house rich now spent one fifth of their time doing their jobs working on immigration policy instead of spending three years investigations and wasting our money plenty more could have come into the country in the last three years. Like I said border patrol newsroom reported that 2 out of every 5 illegal immigrants have sexual assault of a child under 12 records. Thats what we dont want here not those escaping the drugs and gangs.
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 06:19
How about the fact that the house passed over 100 bills on multiple needs for the country and Mitch McConnell refuses to bring them to the floor of the Senate? And did you forget that until January of 2018 the house was controlled by the Republicans? So the last 3 years is really 2 and the Senate has blocked all efforts to move along. You also forget that the Republicans in the Senate spent months and months during several tries to repeal Obama-Care. One of your own, the great and noble John McCain voted his conscience





By #610494 at 06,Feb,20 14:09
How do you figure it's all the trump haters? Y'all acted the same way when Obama was president.


By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 23:54
Thats why the treasury dept turned Hunter Biden financial records over today for suspicion of illegal income. Looks like the FBI and CIA will get to investigate anyway
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 05:40
And then what? Will they call the Ukraine to help out? HAHAHA
By #607191 at 07,Feb,20 11:21
Anyway, the witnesses presented for the eye of the world the very best the USA has to offer while the representatives who defended Trump looked like the scum of the earth. Jim Jordan, that's human filth.
By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 12:00


By phart at 08,Feb,20 15:10 other posts of phart 
I do wish someone would call Putin and find out who won the Iowa cacuos.



By phart at 07,Feb,20 13:55 other posts of phart 
Those that hate me for wanting a good President,I couldn't care less. We that are happy with the progress the US has made in the last 3 years are united,we will stand.Those that are Pissed off and mad because they can't use the excuse,"I can't find work" to draw a free check don't matter.
By #607191 at 08,Feb,20 13:26
Hating and assuming to be hated seems to be a Republican trait.
There's no argueing with the economy booming but there is plenty to be despised in the way a PRESIDENT is behaving. It's way below what may be expected from someone in that office.
Moreover, firing truly outstanding civil servants is a sign of revenge from someone who cannot stand any form of critique.
If Trump would have his way he'd be president for life just like in a dictatorship like Russia and China.

There is an eerie movie describing the fate of people who sell their soul to a ruthless dictatorship called "Mephisto".
Whatever you do, it's never enough and your miserable fate is sealed.
The USA under Trump presents a horrifying picture of a country destroying itself, leaving nothing but losers.
By phart at 08,Feb,20 15:00 other posts of phart 
We all know that there is no chance of Trump being a life time dictator. The constitution protects us from that.
It also protects alot of other things.
Killing terrorist without letting the leaky democrats know is a good thing.





By #610414 at 07,Feb,20 17:26
Little David was in his 5th grade class  in a San Francisco charter school  when the teacher asked the children what their fathers did for a living.  All the typical answers came up - fireman, policeman, salesman, doctor, lawyer.

 

 

David was being uncharacteristically quiet, so the teacher asked him about his father.  "My father's an exotic dancer in a gay cabaret and takes off all his clothes in front of other men and they put money in his underwear.  Sometimes, if the offer's really good, he'll go home with some guy and have sex with him for money." The teacher, obviously shaken by this statement, hurriedly set the other children to work on some exercises and took little David aside to ask him, "Is that really true about your father?" 
“No, of course not;" said David, "he works for Nancy Pelosi, but I was too embarrassed to say that in front of the other kids!”
By dgraff at 08,Feb,20 10:52 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha good story I all most spit my coffee across the room



By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 22:01
Someone suggested that I have my panties in a knot. They are not. Not really. There's two of me on site. The woman that loves sex. The woman that is truly me in real life, and this dumb ass that believes in the goodness of people. I'm way old enough to know better. Well, from now on I'm going to cheer every time someone k.ills a bunch of people with a gun. That person is defending the second ammendment to a stupid constitution. The damn thing should be burned. I just hope I live to see slavery brought back. In the meantime, I'm going to fuck my way through life and hope everyone gets fucked too. Go Trump. Take over the country. We'll call you Generalнsimo Trump
By #588327 at 13,Sep,19 03:52
It's amazing how much you hate Trump and guns. Did you have same hate for gun when Obama was in office ? What make you think you opinion on guns or anything has more importance they anybody else
By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 11:06
Yes, I hated guns and bigotry as much when Obama was president as I do now. I also hated Trump then, although, I hate him more now.
I don't think my opinions are more important than anyone else's. You have your opinions and beliefs and they are just as important as mine.
The difference is that I believe I'm right and that gives me the strength to fight for what I believe.
Now, I attack ideas that are contrary to mine and question the mindset of people that have those ideas.
Let me give you and others on site some free advice . You don't win a debate by going after your opposing debater. None of you ever say," I don't like your point of view because, A) B) C) etc.
In other words. You don't bring anything more than how you feel.
By #588327 at 13,Sep,19 20:45
Your the one wanting to change the gun laws. What is their to debate or feeling to talk about. We have the right to have guns.its that simple. I get tired of people keep who keep pushing their feeling about guns. Their is really nothing that change your opinion I bet, unless we ban some guns you don't like or you believe people don't need. You don't have to like Trump but you had your chance to vote. Why don't you go after the cazy people shooting people instead.
By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 21:30
You are priceless. Why don't I go after the crazy people shooting people? Are you that dumb? What do you expect me to do. Outlaw people who cause shooting masacres?
Right now you have the right to own a firearm. I want to change that so you DON'T have that right. You can get tired all you want of people that feel like I do. We know that if there are no guns, then this country would be much safer. And, no, there is nothing to change my opinion, because it's right. And I did vote. I voted for Clinton and in the 2018 midterm, I voted all Democratic. Hopefully, Trump will be a one term president. I will vote Democratic again next year.
By #588327 at 14,Sep,19 00:36
See you don't want to do hard work and do something about the cazy people. You would rather take people's rights away because you think that will make thing more safe. That's crazy, you should stand up against the bad people. You don't give up your rights then expected to be more safe. You stand up against bad or cazy people. This is why people don't want your way of thinking to win. Making yourself or people more open to being a victim of a crime or cazy person is NOT better way to live. Their will always be crazy people and they don't care what laws you pass. They will do cazy things. You stop them if you have that ability, and you might protect yourself from being a victim of that crazy person.
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 00:58
Yeah, ok baby. You make a lot of sence.
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Living with the fear I'm going to be the victim of a crime or a crazy person is a fucked up way to live. You want to live like that, go right ahead. Get a bunker too.
By #588327 at 14,Sep,19 01:35
You must fear something to be willing to give up not only your rights. You want to take them always from other people. You are the baby or something must be messed up in your way of thinking
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 01:45
Yes, I fear more masacres done with a military style weapon. You can scream from the top of the hills all you want. It won't change the fact that if there are no guns, there are no shootings. You can talk about rights. You can talk about people, not guns, that kill. You can talk about anything you want. You can even talk about what a bitch I am for wanting to take your guns away. It won't change a thing. No guns, no shootings.
By #588327 at 14,Sep,19 02:48
Your not going to eliminate all the guns in the US, their are to many. Your fear of masacares is over the top probably from watching all the news. Do you fear driving a car so much that you think nobody should drive ? The odds of someone being killed in a traffic accident has to thousands time more. I bet you don't fear driving a car but your more likely to be in traffic accident just like we all are. Yet we still drive every day. Good thing your not the president and Trump is. Let's vote for Trump in 2020 !
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 14:13
You really believe that?----------Your fear of masacares is over the top probably from watching all the news.--------
Are you not indignant that over 230 innocent people lost their lives since Jan 1, 2019? You think It's what drives me? You are dumber than I thought. Is life so cheap to you that you believe only scared people want to do something about it? The chances of me dying in a mass murder shootout is smaller than getting killed by a falling meteorite. But, I care about other people. Obviously the only thing that you are worried about is having your precious firearm taken from you. You are pathetic. You can't even come up with a good reason to keep them.
By dgraff at 14,Sep,19 14:40 other posts of dgraff 
Give it up tootsie it’s all part of God’s plan when your number is up your done it don’t matter how you die I could be hit by a truck or in a motorcycle accident or shot but not till my number is up
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 16:31
I would not argue with God. I will argue with the NRA. Your argument doesn't hold water. When you are on your bike, do you stop for red lights or barrel through? After all, God will either call you or not.
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BTW, it does matter how I die. If I go in my sleep, it's preferable to getting crushed to death by aligator jaws. That last one is possible as every pond here has at least one Allн Gator.
By dgraff at 14,Sep,19 19:33 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha you got gators I have bears 🐻
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 19:56
We also have 15 foot pythons. Every conceivable poisonous spider. Rattlers, mocasines, coral and Malaysian pit viper snakes. Poison frogs, panthers,wild boar, crocodiles, and TRUMP LOVERS.
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And Cuban drivers
By dgraff at 14,Sep,19 21:20 other posts of dgraff 
Scary place and to damn hot for me I go as far as Baltimore Maryland and it’s to hot for me
By #578610 at 14,Sep,19 21:45
The one thing we try to keep out is ass kissers.
Dgraff




By #591921 at 02,Feb,20 13:57
Little hint buddy George Soros is not god for your information I know you super liberal folks dont believe anything at all unless its reported on CNN. However 38news reports have been proven to be false or made up that they reported as completely true. They have had to pay out $60 million dollars for fake made up reports just in the Las year alone. I wish the associated press would go broke and if they keep the fake news up they will. Now they are being sued by Carter page for $45 million for reporting that he colluded with the Russians to help Trump win for those people who don't believe the Mueller report and believe the democrats saying still he worked with Russia. Carter Page so you know is not in prison he never was in prison and was not ever even charged with a crime. He was just a way for the democrats to be able to bug the Trump campaign and cheat in the elections.









By #591921 at 05,Feb,20 04:41
Well your not counting on the boar loads of illegal firearms that drug cartels are smuggling into the US. The coast guard bad caught 8 ships so far this year full of guns that cartels and drug runners are smuggling into the US. Personally I prefer having the rich to shoot back if my situation demands so.



By #591921 at 02,Feb,20 04:51
If you hate guns you might want to up the Fast and Furious scandal Obama. He sent a bunch of M-16 (same guns our military uses) to a Mexican cartel. On the way back into the country a bunch of FBI agents hot caught with a load of cocaine and heroine. They were caught in Arizona in a border county where there is no wall. When they got caught by Joe Arpio's deputies the sheriff had yo let the agents go because they hold a higher status than a lowly local Sherriff. However Sheriff Joe told them ok I have to let you go since I can't lock you up however the drugs thats evidence in not giving that up without placing it into my evidence and having paperwork from the DEA to release it to them. Once Sheriff Joe did that they had to turn the case over to the DEA,and homeland security. After that Sheriff Joe got charged with a federal felony and lost his job. Once Trump got elected he gave Sheriff Joe a full pardon and his full rights were reinacted and he could run for Sherriff again. Once it came to light Obama admitted that he agreed to the deal with the cartel but claimed that it was a trap and a plan to see where the rifles turned up in The US. And that the guns all had digital trackers on them. However somehow the cartel had figured out hoe to deactivate the trackers. Many of these guns have shown up two of them here in my town,no trackers on them at all. They have shown up in areas that are populated with lots of immigrants who are gang and cartel members. They were also used in Mexico to make the Mexican Marines have to give up el chapos son back to the cartel once they vsight him that was on the news. Because the Mexican Marines were out gunned.
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I. Getting lots of people now saying I must be an idiot if I think this is true. However it is true Obama admitted he did do it in a public press conference. Flat out admitted it. Like I said the only reason people dont believe it is because the Democrat run press controlled by Soros never reported it. Look it up the gas and furious scandal. It was even brought up in argument at the impeachment trial this last week because they argued that Obama was charged with contempt of congress for refusing to turn over the paperwork after Republicans took it to court three times and won the case. Dont believe me if your head is in the sand it up its true every single bit. Funny how people refuse to stuff up but want to call others who are informed a lie.
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LOOK IT UP fast and furious scandal
By #610414 at 03,Feb,20 16:13
I’m sorry but really? No way
By #591921 at 03,Feb,20 17:56
Like I said if you dont believe that your calling Obama a liar because he admitted in a press conference that he did do it supposedly to try and catch cartels smuggling guns into the US. That was his excuse. Dont believe it up the Fast and furious scandal. Lil i said dont believe me believe your lying eyes when you read it and see Obama admit it himself. And it was on Fox news but no associated press news reported it at all. Thats why people don't believe it. Oh he would never do that. Yes he did and he also withheld all the evidence and that's why he was charged with content of congress Susan Rice was charged with it to for refusing to turn over her information on it.Contempt of court. See people refuse to look it up bur want to argue anyway like idiots. If you want to argue about I fine look it up and be informed before you do.
By #610414 at 04,Feb,20 00:02
I'm sorry. I'm trying to make sense of your post. I just can't make heads or tails of it. I believe you mean that Obama is part of a Mexican drug cartel and he provides guns to overthrow the Mexican government? Why would he do that? He has good retirement.
By #591921 at 04,Feb,20 13:48
No when he was president he got caught sending M-16 rifles to a Mexican drug cartel. After he got caught he said it was a government undercover operation to try and catch where and how gun were being smuggled into the US. The head of the cartel El Chapo Guzmans also testified in court that he paid off California democrats in order to be allowed to smuggle drugs into the US through California. This cartel now has enough US military equipment they can overthrow the Mexican Marines. When they captured el chapo's son in Mexico the cartel threatening the Marines caused them to have to surrender the drug lord because they had the military out gunned. They have tanks,military activated explosives m-16's,rpg's,military bridges from the army corps of engineers so they can cross the river at the border. He got caught giving the cartel guns and refused to give any explanation or records to congress once he got caught. He also declared executive privilege and after Republicans won their court cases to get the evidence he still refused to turn it over. Thats the reason democrats are trying to impeach Trump because he declared executive privilege and they didn't go through court in the correct procedures to gain evidence. Instead they just added another charge of impeachment to Trumps impeachment. So what I'm saying is they are trying to da its ok for a Democrat to declare executive privilege but if a Republican declares it then thats an added impeachable offense. I'm not saying Obama is doing this in retirement he was caught doing it while he was president.
By #610414 at 04,Feb,20 13:58
Let me get this straight. You are mad that Obama got away with it? Isn't trump getting away with it too? I just heard Senator Kennedy admit Trump was wrong but they would let him go. What gives?
By #591921 at 04,Feb,20 15:16
What I'm saying is the democrats are trying to impeach Trump for making sure the corruption in Ukraine is getting addressed before he gives them money. But the democrats think its perfectly fine that Obama gave guns to an illegal drug cartel and his vice president withheld a billion dollars in military aid until they fired an official who was going to investigate his son and that was perfectly fine even though he and Joe Biden wet part of the corruption. Goes to show you the democrats bias is so far gone they can't even admit that a single one does any wrong. In the impeachment trial they even still defend Bill Clinton and claim he shouldn't have even been censored for perjury of congress once congress has DNA evidence that proved he actually did it. They still deny he did.
By #610414 at 04,Feb,20 15:20
Yes, but Obama is not the president anymore. Are you saying that if someone murders someone ten yrs ago and gets away with it it's ok to commit murder?
By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 14:58
I'm talking about Bill Clinton,he got impeached and censored because he had Monica Lewinsky suck him off in the oval office. Then he lied under oath about it. Then they brought out her dress that had his jizz on it. They did a DNA test and proved it was his jizz. Then Hillary wanted to go on NBC and say it was all a bunch of lies and a fake conspiracy made up by Republicans and Bill would never do that and cheat on her like that he just wouldn't. Democrats still claim he didn't do it and they had DNA proof. Now they all want to claim Trump is nothing but a liar. If you want to know who is a liar you might want to check out the democrats run media,every other story in the associated press is some half baked truth or in the case of CNN its just made up lies.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 15:25
First, Clinton is a 20 year old story. Are you guys going to carry that argument until the Second Coming?
Second, just yesterday several Senators that voted for Trump admitted, on national TV, that he was guilty of the articles of impeachment but they did not want to remove him from office. That is not a lie. It's not a conspiracy. It's not even a gossip. It is real. Seventyfive percent off the population believed the evidence presented and think he was guilty. It's not my belief. It's not my view, It's not big associated press fake news. So what are you saying? Are you putting fingers in your ears and yelling NA NA NA NA NA so you don't want to hear?
Fourth, when are you, Trump supporters, going to defend his corrupt presidency on his merits instead of bringing up Bill Clinton, Hilary Clinton, Obama, Biden, Hiroshito, Hitler, Mother Teresa, The Duke of Windsor?
Wake up, baby. Trump may be here for a second term but he's no good.
By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 16:01
He is a lot better than any democrats that are running for office and more truthful. And I'm not sure you understand I didn't da the big associated press I said the associated press,the AP. That is a news organization that is run by George Soros. He is the biggest crook in the world. Why dont you check out some news that doesn't report from the fake AP its all fabricated by the AP the fake polls the false stories the 75% your talkng about thats 75% of the people that only follow the AP. Try checking out the UPI or the BBC or American Free Press. George Soros was once reported saying if you control the news tmyou control the mind. Since he controls the AP guess who reports ink from the AP. ABC,CBS,CNN,NBC,MSNBC,CSPAN,Washington post,New York Times and 268 other newspapers across the country that he flat out owns. Its just like KinJung Un who owns the state press in North Korea,Or The state owned press in Iran. If all you report is fake news and false polls and make things up and people think oh it has to all be completely true or else the news wouldn't report it. Well think again. Thats why the fake news thing is such a problem here. Fox news is the only network news that reports by the AP and the UPI. But I dont even believe them all the time. I read the UPI directly,The BBC,border patrol newsroom,coast guard news. Oh but I guess if something happens there your positive they would report it I the AP huh. Here's an example. The coast guard news back over a year ago reported they busted two ships coming into Puerto Rico with 26 tons of cocaine and heroine. The ships were unloading the drugs in the site right outside Yulin Cruz's office window. The helicopter flying back and forth to cover the two cuttys that were making the bust of the smugglers. Once they made the bust the helicopter saw something on a hill near San Juan they landed and found over a million bottles of water and 14 tractor trailers full of food that FEMA brought right after the hurricane hit. Yulin Cruz signed for it two days before she went on Good Morning America to say Trump hasn't sent us anything he doesn't care about Puerto Rico. Guess what the big story all over the AP was the next day. Stormy Daniels was arrested by Trump supporting Police at a show where she was stripping. Gee I guess thats a lot bigger news than a 26 ton drug bust and a conspirical plot being exposed where democrats hid food and water from survivors of a natural disaster huh.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 16:25
First, I follow the BBC and NPR. I read the headlines in the New York Times, The Miami Herald and the local Newspapers here in Madrid, Spain. Again, I want to know why you are bringing up examples of what other people (politicians or national figures) have done or are doing wrong. Why can't you Trumpo supporters just come with real facts about him? When I'm talking about Trumpo, I don't give a flying fuck about drugs, the governor of Puerto Rico, the Coast Guard, or George Sorros. Trumpo is, by self admission, a cheating, back stabbing, sexual predator who cheated on his wife while she was pregnant, paid off a porn star just before his election he was humping . He admitted he asked a foreign government, twice, to interfere in our national elections. And all this on national TV. Not fake news. Not Sorros made up. Not even Fox News. Just regular TV with him as the main character.
Yesterday, in his State of the Nation speech (and don't tell me it was fake) he lied about working to have pre-existing medical conditions accepted. He has been working against this since B4 he was president. He said he wants to bring drug prices down. Another lie. There's been a bill in the senate (HR2) for months and he won't ask McConnell to bring it to the Senate floor. He says he brought more jobs than any other president. Another lie. In the last 3 yrs of his presidency, Obama brought more that Trumpo brought in the last 3 yrs. He says he fixed the economy. Another lie. He's been riding Obama's recovery all these years. This is not fake news. This is by noted economists all over the world.
So, baby, go listen to whom ever you want to listen but, ACTUALLY LISTEN to what's being said. And enough with "He/she did this or that" Trumpo is an individual and as such, he's solely responsible for his actions.
By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 19:06
All I can say if your in Spain you need to Sta there your not a US citizen or if you are you dint have any idea what the hell is really going on here so why are you worried about I anyway. Oh by the way Trump just interrupted TV to announce investigation into DNC,Hillary,Obama admin. Comey,Pelosi,Schiff,Nadler,Stryok,Page and the collusion with the associated press and the conspiracy that has finally come to light and the FBI agents who said in text about the insurance policy plan democrats had to get him out if office. He said the impeachment brought out very damming evidence about the democrats attempt to overthrow the last election and now the impeachment is over very key people are talking as we speak people are being investigated and interrogated and they are flapping their gums about the democrats plan to take the government over. That was he interrupted regular TV to make the announcement on live TV.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 20:43
Baby, I was born in Miami, Florida. My whole family is in Miami. I come from a long line of New England folks. I voted in every election since Nixon. Don't tell me what I know or don't know. It's just like your Savior to try to shift blame to other people. Perhaps, you should take your ignorant ass and depart to some banana republic and take Generalisimo Trumpo with you.
It's a wonder how the US continues to thrive despite the huge numbers of uneducated dumb fucks like you.
By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 23:52
Well thats just it huh anyone that has valid argument and knows a lot about real things going on is just an idiot because you disagree with them. Yeah my ex wife was raised in Miami too,her parents moved here because they said the mentality there was dropping fast,that was 48 years ago.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 23:55
So she was a bigot that didn't like Cubans. The Cubans made a great city. It's the Door to Latin america and one of the financial power houses of the Americas. Like I said, "dumb fucks"




















By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 15:04
Yeah democrats have a hard time getting over that they cheated in the election and still got beat. They came up with a fake ass report from another two countries no less,got a warrant and had the FBI wiretap the Trump campaign and had undercover FBI agents go to work to spy on the campaign and still got beat.
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 15:27
Dream on, baby
By #591921 at 06,Feb,20 16:11
That is undisputed fact the democrats have admitted that in the press. But see your so blind you dint even believe it when democrats admit they do stuff wrong. You dont believe Obama and fast and furious scandal,he admitted it. You dint believe the democrats wire tapped Trump campaign they admitted it. You dont even believe the Steele dossier was fake and used to get a warrant to spy on Trump campaign and democrats admitted it. So your even calling democrats liars when they admitted it all. And you want to say the news that never retracted one story never reported things that the democrats themselves actually admitted to be true. So now who has fingers in their ears going nanananana
By #610414 at 06,Feb,20 18:40
Ok, baby. List the references. Don't give me your words. I don't believe shit from you. Right under this post list all your references that tell what you just said and, more important, were they were proved true. Come on. Put up or shut up. Use whatever reference engine you like.





By phart at 05,Feb,20 04:08 other posts of phart 
1 of the best state of the union address's I have ever watched tonight.
Nancy Pelosi, sheesh,what a sore looser.She did not have to make herself look foolish,she coulda torn up and tossed the papers out later.Not in front of the cameras.so disrespectful of the office of the President.


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By #591921 at 05,Feb,20 04:33
I saw the speech I was awesome. But the talk of the town is now Nancy tearing up the speech. Trump didn't even make it back to the WH and tweeted out Nancy tore up the speech I gave her,the speech that gives Rush Limbaugh a medal of freedom,a Tuskegee airman made a Brigadier General,gives underprivileged minority children chances to get ahead,that pays respect to families who lost members in our military,and that supports our border security and ice agents,and reunited a military family,and gives American citizens the right to sue sanctuary cities and states foe letting criminal illegal immigrants a free pass out of jail who commit crimes against humanity in America by not holding them in jail for ICE agents to pick up. That shows you just what respect democrats have for America and Americans. Hahahahaha Trump set a trap and Nancy too the bait hook line sinker and cork. Hahaha



By #588327 at 03,Feb,20 19:39
If they don't remove Trump from the office this time, will the Trump haters stop or keep going claiming something new ? We still have a day or two before we know the outcome.
By #610414 at 04,Feb,20 00:03
He walks........this time.
By phart at 04,Feb,20 01:18 other posts of phart 
They will continue their witch hunt. Think about it,the more they keep up with the witch hunts, the less gets done for the American people. Which the democrats don't give a rats ass about anyway.
They occomplished their actuall goal. Divide America.Next is to try to conqure it .
By #588327 at 04,Feb,20 05:23
I think they will actually end up helping Trump get elected again. Because people will see it as a scam. I don't think the other side with all their free stuff and higher taxes will get Americans votes. People don't want more taxes. I don't see Bernie Sanders or Mike Bloomberg making it. Maybe Joe Biden, but I don't think people want to go back to the economy of the Obama years. Just the idea of going back to those years, or economy from what we have today. The Trump haters are strong, only time will tell.

By #591921 at 04,Feb,20 06:59
Today in the impeachment trial the Trump lawyers put a Washington Post headline up for the senate to read. The headline read the campaign to impeach the president has now begun. Once his lawyers read the headline to the senate they asked when do you think this headline was published,well ill tell you when it was published,it was 19 minutes after he was inaugurated.
By phart at 04,Feb,20 14:22 other posts of phart 
Yea, this whole get rid of Trump thing started before he became president.No one wanted a "wild spoon" stirring their pot of smelly gruel that has been stewing for decades. Well guess what,that shit is going to get tossed out of the pot come november. I hope Nancee peelowsee gets demoted.
I would rather have Joe Biden running for Dem than the rest of them. At least we know how dumb he can be ,we don't know about the rest of them except they want give it all away.
By #591921 at 04,Feb,20 15:26
Well I read the border patrol newsroom and coast guard news too. The border patrol helicopter caught a truck on US soil loaded with cocaine and heroine driving to try and get to a highway. Once they saw the helicopter they turned around. The truck headed back toward Mexico. The helicopter called ground backup and was sure officials would catch them before they could cross the river at the point they were at because it was to deep for the truck. When the helicopter turned back around and caught back up with the truck they were back in Mexico. The Mexican Marines caught the smugglers. Then the helicopter wanted to see how the truck crossed the river so fast. They flew the river and found a temporary military bridge from the army corp if engineers that the cartel had so they could just drive right across the river. So tell me how do you think they got hold of that.







By erekoses at 24,Jan,20 06:56 other posts of erekoses 
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By #592419 at 23,Jan,20 15:04
Did I forget to mention BJUK is a fake made by Hillary Clinton to spy on us Trump Lovers?..


By #600020 at 23,Sep,19 16:02
He's a degenerate. October 11, 2016 – Tasha Dixon, a former Miss Universe contestant, accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct. Dixon asserted that Trump walked into their changing room in 2001 while contestants were changing. On the Howard Stern Show in 2005, Trump said about the pageant, “I’ll go backstage before a show and everyone’s getting dressed and ready and everything else. And you know, no men are anywhere. And I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant. And therefore, I’m inspecting it. You know they’re standing there with no clothes. And you see these incredible looking women. And so I sort of get away with things like that.”
By phart at 23,Sep,19 21:31 other posts of phart 
Yea,that is part of being the OWNER of something.That is like you owning your home and someone telling you can't go in there.
DUH.And you know as well as I do most of those women would have laid a golden egg to have Trump screw them thinking it would help them get somewhere either in the pagent or in a good job or whatever.
Folks tend to forget about the casting couch 1000's of women have laid on to get where they are in the world.Kinda handy to have a short memory.

Just for conversation,check back and see how many winners of the pagent are complaining?
By #600020 at 23,Sep,19 22:21
It's not a question if they liked it or not. Would you do that? Would you walk in on your Mom when she's nude in the bathroom? They might not have minded. After all, they were in a show biz life style. But, the correct way is to knock and ask if you can walk in. You want to excuse him. There's no excuse.
By phart at 24,Sep,19 00:26 other posts of phart 
Fault can be found with any man.
No you don't walk in on family.Perhaps a knock wouldn't have hurt but still,it was HIS shin dig,it is not anymore and from what I understand they did away with the bathing suit portion and so forth,turned it into something not worth watching on tv anymore.I haven't kept up but I bet the ratings will suffer.





By #578610 at 16,Sep,19 12:46
THANK YOU MR PESIDENT ASSHAT


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THE TARIFFS WON'T AFFECT AMERICAN CONSUMERS. CHINA WILL PAY
By #599768 at 19,Sep,19 20:38
Brainwashed. Just drink the kool aid and laid and leave world at peace.

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By #578610 at 19,Sep,19 21:01
I'm thinking you dropped out of school before getting to reading and writing classes. You see the URL in blue? It's a shortcut to an article on the net. It's not the only one available. Everyone from the Federal Reserve to megabusiness CEOS are saying the same.
Tariffs are a tax on the American consumer. So, why am I the bad lady?




By #568769 at 16,Sep,19 17:37
Trump the Frump IS deranged! How LONG will it take all you blind 'followers' to catch on?!
By phart at 16,Sep,19 18:28 other posts of phart 
Same length of time,perhaps a bit longer,than it will take for the democrats to figure out they are headed down the wrong trail.

in other words,it aint happenin'. We are following the better of the 2 pathes.Neither are ideal and perfect for all,but our path will not lead to the loss of our freedom and distruction our country.
By #568769 at 16,Sep,19 18:50
"our path will (not) lead to the loss of our freedom and destruction of our country"...you say that unbidden, like that is precisely what is in the back of your mind, Phart...I think maybe after a couple of years, just maybe you are waking up...The dems are stupid a holes too. There is NOBODY trustworthy in the US gov't. But trumpily frumpily is really dangerous...Let's just wait and see how he handles N. Korea, Iran, Russia and China. WAY too much for a failed real estate, airline, casino and a simpleton TV reality show guy... I wish just about anyone ELSE was in the WH. Even that Hillary bitch would be BARELY better. We are in scary times and nobody really sees just how dangerous...
By phart at 17,Sep,19 02:02 other posts of phart 
How many other "simpletons do you know that are billionaires might I ask? Hardly a simpleton,if he doesn't know what to do,he hires someone that does. I knew he had the tendancys of a 5th grade bully when I hired him,voted for him,for the job.But,I would rather have a bully in charge than someone that thinks it makes no difference that people died in Bengazi and other things the other option was known for.
The days of a decent man to please the mass's getting the job are gone. No one with serious brains wants the job? Do you? I might would take it but I couldn't please everyone either.
He was the best choice for the job at that time and considering the puppets and muppets the dem's have running this time, He will still be the better choice.

Now let's say even Colin powel that turned on the repubs and supported Obummer.Hell,he would be a much better man to run for the job than that damn give it all away for free sumbitch Sanders.
By #568769 at 17,Sep,19 17:58
Actually, I don't know any Billionaires. And neither do you, as el dinaling isn't either. It's all a show, supported by Deutsche Bank, the ONLY bank that will lend him money. Did you miss the part about how many times he's declared bankruptcy? Because our prez is a dead beat. His bankruptcies are undeniable if you care to check. Is that who you want running this country, which is now over 1 Trillion in debt since his election.
I totally agree with you. Dems are crap too. That's because this country is no longer run 'by the people', but by those that are actually rich and in this case, by someone living on credit. Just like lots of Americans.

By #568769 at 17,Sep,19 18:06
It's just occurred to me about your statement that 'he hires somebody that does'. Is that why he's FIRED or had so many IMPORTANT people in his administration resign? It's becoming more and MORE like he will make ALL the decisions. Does that remind you of anything, Phart? Because that is certainly NOT a Democracy.
By phart at 17,Sep,19 19:24 other posts of phart 
Bankruptcy is a tool.People use it,other people get mad,the world moves on.Is it good,No.is it right to leave folks unpaid? No. But Trump is not the only person to do it.So to discriminate against him and no one else is wrong.Alot is learned from failures,like what not to do!
.ALOT of people that have a more direct effect on our lives do it all the time.Your local politcians that buy realestate expecting the state to buy it from them for a proposed bypass that doesn't happen.The politcian declares bankruptcy for that "corperation" he formed for his investment.We don't hear about it,he stays quite,and he STILL makes money because he forms a new corperation that buys it at the bankrupcty sale.I KNOW this is how 1 man done it locally.
By #568769 at 17,Sep,19 19:30
OK, Phart. Maybe you should reply when you are just a little more lucent...Because beyond all the misspellings and problems with clarity...I hear someone who is SERIOUSLY re-thinking his choice in the leader of America, but is just unable to admit it...It's OK, Phart. Most of us know, already.
By phart at 17,Sep,19 19:43 other posts of phart 
HELL NO< I am not rethinking anything.I KNEW what I was getting when I voted,and I am still thankful I had enough sense to vote the way I did.
You honestly think I live in a hole in the ground and had never heard of Trumps actions before he ran for office? Damn.
We were in the lowest spot in US history since the Great Depression and we did not need to continue down the same road we had been on for 8 years.

I have arthritis and this newer keyboard is narrower than my old 1 So yea, there are some misspellings. OH MY GOD,the world is going to end.Not because of a crazy Iranian with a nuke,but because Phart misspelled some words! lolNot angry with your statements,we can't all agree on everything.Just do me 1 favor. Sit down and see if you can come up with anything the alternative we had in 2016 could have done any BETTER>
1 thing for sure,I seriously doubt she would have sat down with Little Rocket Man.

Think about this as well. Trump has failed several times. How many of us haven't?. Ok,he has been to the top,with no where else to go but President. OK, so anyone with any sense at all knows if America fails, Trump and millions of other people will fail shortly after. So he knows if America fails,he fails, so he is not going to do anything stupid enough for that to happen.
By #551147 at 17,Sep,19 23:35
Now who dug this asswipe ➡️ talk5s out from the sewage pit he resides in?
By phart at 18,Sep,19 00:19 other posts of phart 
don't know,I have no issue at this time with the member here,I remember the nick from a long time back,at least the member is not a new 1 that started on the 16th of this month. I did make a comment about San fransico that could have offended him.But if he watches the news,he knows even more than I do about what is happening that once nice city.
By #568769 at 18,Sep,19 17:46
I have lived SO many places on this planet. Nothing you can say along the lines of a Trumpian 'beweever' about SFO can offend me. Say what you will about the city across the bay from me. How about the street are paved in shit? Just like that idiot prez has said? See? Don't care. I have walked up one of the hills in SFO and the shit was just flowing down the street in such huge amounts, cars were sliding off the road! Man did it stink!
By phart at 18,Sep,19 19:56 other posts of phart 
Well,since you live near by,is anyone trying to improve the image of that city or are they just basking in the fumes of their new found "fame"?
When you watch movies you can see that once that was a interesting and really cool looking city with the hills and the trolleys and such.But to hear and see on the news what has happened to it,it is sad.And it is like no one seems to care?



By #568769 at 18,Sep,19 17:38
Hi scorpio. I see I offended you enough that you remembered me! Makes me SO happy! Let me know what else I can say to really aggravate you.
By #551147 at 18,Sep,19 17:47
By #568769 at 18,Sep,19 18:22
That's funny!











By #599768 at 19,Sep,19 20:36
On your side and not
Phart bloosom



By #599768 at 15,Sep,19 20:53
TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME are those that follow this dip shit cartoon character.

First off, he only won because of a stupid ass electoral set up that has nothing to do with a one vote election.

He lost the real vote. By almost 3 million.

He is a fucking idiot. Was before this bullshit and worse now.

So go stroke yourself to his orange face. And unload on it.

Love your Adolf Hitler mine set douches. Sieg Heil
By phart at 15,Sep,19 21:08 other posts of phart 
Great, another profile made on the 15th.Hatin trump.Boy are we really getting somewhere solveing the real problems of this world.

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By #599768 at 15,Sep,19 23:28
Your name phart fits you.
By phart at 17,Sep,19 02:11 other posts of phart 
I would say your name probably fits to.
"we like to 2 look out the window and watch"the destruction our ideas bring to America".
I didn't think the electorial college was a good idea either until I studied why it is.
It is to make sure that small highly populated pockets,say cities like Sinfransisco and Chicago don't decide how the large parts of the country have to live.YOu must not have a clue what it would be like to try to farm in Nebraska or run a factory in Georgia, under the rules written by someone in Chicago or San fransisco.
It wouldn't work,as those folks have NO fucking idea how to do anything but shoot each other in the streets and shit in the streets.
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Wow,the numbers are down from last year! WooHoo,walmart quit carrying bullets!
By #598172 at 17,Sep,19 02:50
The electoral college only elects the president. They are disbanded after the election. They do not elect anyone to Congress. There are 2 senators for every state so every state has the same power as any other state.
The House has 1 representative for every 30000 people. All states get at least 1 no matter how small they are.
Small states with small populations have an advantage in the electoral college. Every state gets 1 elector per every senator and congressman they have. So, you see, the electoral college is not responsible for what happens in the country




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By #551147 at 09,Sep,19 20:30
A thoughtful Tribute to: TWOWARMTTS2

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By #551147 at 10,Sep,19 01:21
Difference between yours and mine are... Mine is reality, yours will NEVER happen as you guys have DIDLY on him.
By #578610 at 10,Sep,19 01:30
Mine is wishful thinking. Yours is a nightmare



By #596193 at 11,Sep,19 01:12
Fucking love it
By #551147 at 11,Sep,19 01:15
Question is Greg102864... Which one is that you love?
By #596193 at 12,Sep,19 09:12
By #551147 at 12,Sep,19 10:31
Good Man!
By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 12:15
That’s about right. Clown Trump's approval rating is about 1 asshat per 3 people.
Hello asshat.
By #596193 at 12,Sep,19 20:56
Trumps the man fuck what the morons think . I really don’t care . Black unemployment is at it’s lowest ever . That one fucking right there , should be enough to shut the assholes up but no . They’re haters . So I say to them fuck your , he’s my president and he will be for close to 5 more years .
By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 21:28
Ok, so I asume you are Black and employed. Well, ok, hope it works for you for as long as he's president. Judging from your spelling, you are well educated and informed on how this president has your back. I wonder why, Obama, a black president, did not get to this point. After all, Obama, a black president, a Democrat, no less, brought the nation back from the worst recesion this country had ever seen. It must have been because he was busy setting up the economy so a man that said Obama was born in Kenya could bask in this glory
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Us haters, we just don't care for our country. All we do is complain that Trump is not protecting Alabama. We complain about the tariffs on Chinese imports that have made so many products so expensive. And getting upset that our farmers can't sell their crops and loosing their farm is so unfair. Well, I guess we just are trouble makers. I remember when Obama was president and all those nice right wing radio hosts were trying to help him with suggestions. That's what we should do. Support him for being a truthful, honest, fair man
By #596193 at 13,Sep,19 02:31
Hey asshat , 1 you looked at my profile before you posted , so you know I’m white . But I did grow up in the hood . 2 check your spelling on another post where you put Sence instead of sense . I’ve probably have been following politics longer than it took for your nasty tits to start sagging . So please go stfu . You don’t know shit except I hate the president because my tv told me to . With that said I will not waste anymore of my time with your stupidity .
By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 02:50
You are right. I'm not as good a speller as I think I am. You go ahead and believe how I listen to my TV. It's good you've been following politics for the last 15 yrs (that's how long it was when my tits started sagging) I'm 67 yrs old and I've been following politics since the Nixon yrs. I was a Republican until Reagan, and I've voted in every national,state,and local election since I could vote. Naturally, you are a man. I couldn't possibly know about the stupidity of other men. It's good you won't spew any more shit.
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Fifty-five, hey? What a waste.
By #551147 at 13,Sep,19 04:13
BTW Dummy! If a bank robber jumps into a black and white car and flees the scene, I suppose you just tell the police it was a black car, huh? Guess what... When Ben Carson becomes President, HE WILL BE THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT. Not your beloved 50/50 Obummer.

For the cheap seats... HE WAS 1/2 WHITE TOO YOU STUPID FUCKS! THEREFORE HE'S NOT THE FIRST "BLACK" PRESIDENT!

I bet your one of the ONLY white dumbasses standing on the corner at a gay pride parade holding the "Black Lives Matter" sign too. Aren't ya!? Like a true GIMP
By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 10:46
YES, HE IS THE FIRST BLACK AMERICAN PRESIDENT. HE IS BLACK SKINNED. HE IS THE FIRST PRESIDENT TO HAVE BLACK SKIN, THEREFORE, HE IS THE FIRST AMERICAN BLACK PRESIDENT. IN CASE YOU CAN'T GET AROUND THAT, THINK PRESIDENT KENNEDY. PRESIDENT KENNEDY WAS THE FIRST CATHOLIC PRESIDENT. THAT'S FIRST,,,,AND,,CATHOLIC,,,,,AND PRESIDENT.

Black people is a term that is used for a racial group of people with a dark skin color. The meaning of the word is mainly used for people of Sub-Saharan African descent. A meaning that also includes certain groups in Oceania and Southeast Asia.

AND ONLY A STUPID FUCK WOULD DESCRIBE A GET AWAY BLACK AND WHITE COP CAR AS BLACK.
I WOULD SAY. THE BANK ROBBER JUMPED INTO A P O L I C E
CAR AND TOOK OFF. ONLY COPS WOULD HAVE A BLACK AND WHITE. DUMMY.
IF BEN CARSON EVER BECOMES PRESIDENT THEN I'LL BE ABLE TO SAY, "I THOUGHT THE REPUBLICANS WERE CRAZY, WHAT, WITH CLOWN TRUMP, BUT, NOW, I THINK THEY ARE FUCKING CRAZY.
SO TELL US, LIAR, WHAT ARE THE EXACT REASONS YOU HATE OBAMA BESIDES THAT HE IS BLACK AND HE GOT US OUT OF THE WORST RECESION IN THE HISTORY OF THIS COUNTRY?







By Sir-Skittles at 14,Sep,19 01:43 other posts of Sir-Skittles 
Make that hat a welders mask for TwoWorms-- her face needs to be covered.
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Sandblasting hood,full coverage.and clear screen,for safety








By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 12:25
I agree with everything said here by other members . What the fuck. Nobody cares one way or the other. I've been pontificating on this website for almost 4 yrs. It was and is a waste of time. Ha.te is the way of the world. I'm the one that's wrong. Go ahead. Do as you want. Hopefully, someone will care enough to bury you.
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By phart at 07,Sep,19 02:24 other posts of phart 
why is it this thread keeps coming up but nothing new to read?
By #485312 at 09,Sep,19 22:47
because the comments are made from someone in your block list or theyre commenting on a thread with someone on your block list .. l see lots of posts because aussie sits beside me and l can see what the dip shits lve blocked say on his computer. don't worry Phart, youre not missing out on anything, most of it is just dribble anyway *lix*

By #551147 at 09,Sep,19 22:50
LOG OUT, then come back to read it. THEN you might know why... 😉
By phart at 10,Sep,19 00:26 other posts of phart 
Geez,I did. The "member" that has posted stuff is blacklisted by me.So unless I log out,I can't read their post..

Hatred runs so deep.
Not everyone has the same life.Our experiances in the real world shape who we are.I do not live in or near enough to a major city for it's policys and citizens lifestyles to affect me drastically,yet.
From where I sit,live and function,people that were out of work and suffereing for a long time,in the past couple years have regained their abilty to self support.Several local companys had decided the results of the 2016 election would be the decideing factor if they closed their doors or continued to operate.Those companys have now doubled their work force and are expanding their factorys.Had Hillary won,the buildings would be full of cobwebs.

As for Trump being racist for not renting to people he knew would tear up his buildings,that is just common sense.
Apparently those that don't understand that have never dealt with rental property and the aggrovation of getting rid of non paying distructive tennants.
By #551147 at 10,Sep,19 01:08
Amen!
By phart at 10,Sep,19 17:38 other posts of phart 
due to logging out and reading some post ,in regards to not renting to those that have a known issue with paying rent and damaging property beyond the point of being rentable once they are driven out by f0rce with 2 years back rent owed,is not racism.It is just common sense.BUT it is called discrimination because that is the liberals way of preventing people from making a profit from renting houseing.I know rental property gets damaged by no gooders of all colors but only 1 color of people whine and call it racist,the others just move to another town and do it all over again. Most of the rental houses around here,get burned by local firedepartments for practice and training.
By #598172 at 11,Sep,19 01:24
I think you are mistaken. I have many liberal friends and every one said that the renters were deadbeats and it's not discrimination to throw them out. All asked the same thing. Why did the property owner wait so long to have them kicked out?
By phart at 11,Sep,19 01:52 other posts of phart 
Laws prevent a quick kick out.IF there is 1 k1d,you won't get them out for at least 4 months.








By #578610 at 10,Sep,19 02:09
As for Trump being racist for not renting to people he knew would tear up his buildings,that is just common sense.
Apparently those that don't understand that have never dealt with rental property and the aggrovation of getting rid of non paying distructive tennants.
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PHART, not renting to someone because you believe they will tear up the place is the definition of discrimination. By law, you can't deny a person before that person does the deed. The same with non paying tennants. Don't you have to wait till they don't pay?
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BTW. You people must live in Mexico or something. In my area, the Sheriff will evict a non paying renter within 45 days from the time the owner gets an eviction notice to the time the renter is on the street.
If a renter trashes the place, it's an automatic 364 days in County work farm.
I guess rural America is a fucked up place.


By #578610 at 10,Sep,19 01:55
Will he win? I wouldn't like it, but, I'm really praying Mitch McConnell loses and that both houses of congress have a Democrat majority. This president thinks he has big ones. We know from Stormy they are empty. Only because congress plays with him is he able to do what he does


By #578610 at 10,Sep,19 01:24
PHART, a person that hides from people can't expect to understand the other person's views. I've been answering a few of your posts and feel somewhat taken aback that Lix says you are not missing much. Well,,,maybe she's right. I'm getting very tired of defending my left wing Democratic views. This website is full of right wing idiots. People that won't even entertain the posibility that it doesn't need to be left or right. Just right. PHART, I'd hate to be you living my life in such a hateful and without hope for a better life. You and most, if not all, my friends and accueintences deserve each other.


By #565792 at 06,Sep,19 10:41
God and Trump have one thing in common: it's hard to believe they really exist.
I heard there seems to be proof for the existence of Trump. And now what? Is the world a better place?
By #578610 at 06,Sep,19 14:03
Sven, I know you'll probably not believe this, but, I do believe in God or a supreme being. It would blow my mind and most intelligent minds if there wasn't one. Having said that, our vision of God is man made. We have no proof if he looks like us, or that he believes in the teachings that MEN have told us through the ages. Why are the ten commandments only ten? Why are priests not allowed to marry? Why is coveting your neighbors wife a sin? Why do we have wars when killing is a sin? Who wrote the Bible? The Koran? Why are Christians more devoted to God. Or the Jews or any other religious group? No, the world is not a good place to live as long as religion causes all these deaths and suffering in the name of God. Trump? a product of a really bad parentage.
By #565792 at 07,Sep,19 00:38
It is absolutely no surprise to me that you believe but I'm always flabbergasted by the things you/people believe. There's no harm in believing in Allah, Anu, God, Quetzalcoatl, Snowwhite, Tlaloc, Tyche, the holy trinity,vampires, building pyramids to ensure the overflowing of the Nile, to construct a temple as a place of offering/bribing your god to finally do something useful for you or a church to sing your lungs out with your partners in sillyness. All to no avail of course but it passes the time. No harm done really. Pyramids are debatable as they require the energy of a vast number of disciplined people while a temple requires no more than a few sticks in the ground and a church is not really a building but a gathering of people. No forced labor necessary.
Anybody should be free to believe anything. However when it takes the form of (organised)religion it's another matter alltogether because that's always the end of freedom of thought. Consider the first amendment. It's no coincidence it's the first.

The answer to the questions you raise about the number of commandments etc is usually quite trivial like 10 fingers or
12 digits in four fingers (12 hours day/night).
What constituted the Bible (inspired by the holy ghost)writings) was decided in the first few centuries AD by the church fathers while lots of writings were rejected (apocryphal). Decisions of course colored by the prejudices of their time. (none of the Evangelists ever met jesus in person) Originally women couldn't testify in court because the custom in biblical days was that men held the testicles of the opposite party and spoke their solemn promises. Usual modern bibles translate this practice as 'he laid his hand on his thigh' How petty can one get.
Most people don't realise they are supposed to hold someone balls while 'testifying' in court. Personally I think we should return to the old days, much less perjury I would think.
The Koran (=the verses) are the spoken comments by Mohammed and later written down by his followers. Priests were not allowed to marrie because women were supposed to be foul beings, responsible for the end of paradise and the greatest danger to a man's eternal soul (another dumb belief) on it's way to heaven. Not even legions of women saints with torn of breasts or the reconsidered role of Mary as mother of god has been able to convince the pope to ditch this silly provision. Also a general resentment of the flesh at the beginning of our era (in contrast to the Greek) contributed to the lesser role of women.
Coveting your neighbors wife or ass reflects the advent of hoarding possessions that started with the agricultural revolution. Possesions being a silly proposition in an age of hunter gatherers.
(it's time for me to stop ranting)
By #578610 at 07,Sep,19 01:12
All true statements, professor. Don't fret. You are not ranting. Your questioning of the Trump existence is, at best, conditional but undeniable. As far as being good in general, I have grave doubts. The question of God, to me, is a much simpler question to answer if I set aside the man made flotsam that pollutes our religious world



By phart at 06,Sep,19 19:48 other posts of phart 
Yea,around these parts it is anyway.People are back at work and making money and living far better than under Obama.
People that are complaining the most about Trump,may not be benifiting much from him.For the most part the complainers are the do nothings that bum off the government and non productive and not supporting their familys.



By #578610 at 06,Sep,19 21:16
By phart at 06,Sep,19 15:48

Yea,around these parts it is anyway.People are back at work and making money and living far better than under Obama.
People that are complaining the most about Trump,may not be benifiting much from him.For the most part the complainers are the do nothings that bum off the government and non productive and not supporting their familys.
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PHART, What people are back at work and living far better than under Obama? Did you forget that Obama's policies brought this country back from the worst recession this country ever suffer? Remember all the home foreclosures when the real estate market burst? Did you forget all the business closures and lost jobs at the end of the Bush administration? The Obama policies reversed that. Hid policies carried into the first 2 years of this jerk-off president. It's the reason his #'s are good.
For the most part complainers are not the do nothings that bum off the government. You like to blame this narrow segment of the population that are unlucky, for what ever reason, to be the poorest of the poor. Everyone in positions in government say the same thing. Your ideas are wrong. I don't know where you get your information, but, I'm assuming that you are a poor bastard that can't make ends meet and you are bitter and blame other unfortunates for your failures.


By #578610 at 05,Sep,19 22:08
OUR ASSHOLE-IN-CHIEF IS AT IT AGAIN SHOWING HIS MASTERY OF STUPID.

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Buttigieg: 'I feel sorry for the President' after he showed apparently altered hurricane map. WHAT, NO PAPER TOWELS?
By #551147 at 06,Sep,19 07:25
Honey! Posting this here just EXEMPLIFIES that YOU, dear, do in fact, suffer from TDS or Trump Derangement Syndrome. I borrowed a lesson from you and went and got the definition for you, from the internet for your reading pleasure.

"TDS or Trump Derangement Syndrome, a term applied to people who express deep loathing and fear of President Donald J. Trump. It's usually used by Trump supporters for liberals."

I've heard Xanax helps relieve this phenomenon, OR watching Fox news for a week, try it.
By #578610 at 06,Sep,19 10:54
Scorpio, baby, having TDS means having good sence. You think it's a detrimental label. I wear it with honor. This thread, though, was created exclusively, here, on SYC/SYD, to redicule people like me. It failed miserably, like the creepy author.
Eldridge Cleaver once said,"There is no more neutrality in the world. You either have to be part of the solution, or you're going to be part of the problem." Most people shorten the saying, but, the meaning is true.
You have criticized my views for many months. You believe I'm here postulating trouble. I'm either short sighted, or mistaken, or don't understand. I'm a baby killer and hater of the Constitution, not to mention a huge hater of that asshole, Donald Trump.
In all that time, you have not once presented a solution to the problems I see in our nation. You criticize. You make fun off. You insult. But, not one idea, not even an acknowledgement of the problem.
You,Sir, are a leach. You live, take up space in our society, but don't have the balls to get involved in the betterment of this country. You vote for a white supremacist sex offender with the brain of a teenager because, deep down, you hate blacks, wet backs and, most of all women. You are terrified of that last group. Some day we may outvote you.
So, yes, I have, I am a TDS victim and I'm damn proud to be







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