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Started by tecsan at 14,Sep,20 02:27  other posts of tecsan
Protests (peaceful that is) are ok, but kneeling before the American Flag???That is a disgrace and dishonor...Why do many want to dishonor our American Vets...Yes, I admit this is a free Country, so feel free overpaid athletes to disrespect it if that is how you feel...There are other ways to protest is all that I am trying to get across...Saddens me to see people kneeling before the Nations Flag while the National Anthem is playing...Actually, tearful... ༼☯﹏☯༽

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By tecsan at 20,Feb,21 02:14 other posts of tecsan 
I know it is off topic, but please vote... /polls/2687.html

By Strongmember# at 13,Oct,20 12:29 other posts of Strongmember# 
I appreciate your expression of sadness tescan that such a maneuver dishonors veterans. My question is why do we believe that playing the Star Spangled Banner is an homage to veterans. It is a song written about the war of 1812. To be fair for the flip argument, at that time our nation was not free for black people. They were considered 3/5 of a human being until 1866. Regardless that history, the choice of a kneel is really a subtle protest, and could be about anything one chooses if upset with government. I doubt Kapernick or others are thinking of their protest as disrespect, but maybe they think it is the only way people will notice and recognize the injustices they perceive as occuring in the country. Framed that way it seems a noble gesture.
By tecsan at 13,Oct,20 21:57 other posts of tecsan 
I appreciate the fact you stated...Do you really think most Americans know that fact or even care...They care about what is happening now...Not what happened in 1812...You want a subtle protest, then go kneel at a high school game...Oh, the platform is not large enough for the silly propaganda...༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# at 14,Oct,20 04:02 other posts of Strongmember# 
You're right. He did not want a subtle protest. It was a bold move. Maybe he doesn't know about the anthem, but did you find out what he was protesting?
By tecsan at 22,Dec,20 22:43 other posts of tecsan 
Look at where he is now...No one wants anything to do with him...༼☯﹏☯༽

By #551147 at 14,Oct,20 18:55

As soon as you got to the part where Strongmember# started with that 3/5th's a human crap, you should have stopped the argument there. It's misinformation CONSTANTLY used to minimize the greatness OR importance of our Constitution.

Being informed sure can go a LONG way!

Understanding the three-fifths compromise

The U.S. Constitution is a document that evolves with the times. Constitutional inadequacies and societal injustices are challenged, and social progress is the result. Instead of reverence for this brilliant document that ensures our rights, it is attacked by some as a severely flawed and even a racist contract.

One of the most widely used means to defame the Constitution is to manipulate perception of the three-fifths compromise. Agenda-driven academicians and committed ideologues routinely state the U.S. Constitution only recognizes blacks as three-fifths of a person. No context is given. This often-repeated falsehood foments disrespect of the Constitution and contempt for the founders who authored it.

The U.S. Constitution does not relegate blacks to “three-fifths of a person” status. Article I, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution states: “Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.” The “other Persons” were slaves.

The 1787 Constitutional Convention addressed the apportionment in the House of Representatives and the number of electoral votes each state would have in presidential elections based on a state’s population. The Southern states wanted to count the entire slave population. This would increase their number of members of Congress. The Northern delegates and others opposed to slavery wanted to count only free persons, including free blacks in the North and South.

Using the logic of the promoters of the “three-fifths of a person” interpretation, think of the constitutional ramification had the position of the Northern states and abolitionists prevailed. The three-fifths clause would have been omitted and possibly replaced with wording that stated “other Persons” would not be counted for apportionment. The Constitution, then, would be proclaiming slaves were not human at all (zero-fifths). This is an illogical conclusion and was certainly not the position of Northern delegates and abolitionists.

Counting the whole number of slaves benefited the Southern states and reinforced the institution of slavery. Minimizing the percentage of the slave population counted for apportionment reduced the political power of slaveholding states.

Denigration of the Constitution is not restricted to committed demagogues.

San Antonio’s U.S. District Judge Fred Biery addressed the Austin Bar Association on Law Day 2012. His speech focused on various social injustices in America’s past and how attorneys righted these wrongs. Biery used the example of then-recent Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III. The judge asserted that in 1787 when the Constitution was ratified, Griffin’s “ancestors … were counted only as three-fifths of a human being.” Biery is alarmingly ignorant. Or worse, he is consumed with the need to promote and further a personal creed.

There are other troubling aspects of the lifetime judge’s declaration. Biery’s speech was published in San Antonio Lawyer after he addressed the bar association. Didn’t any of the attorneys at the meeting who actually understood the meaning of that portion of the Constitution advise Biery of his misrepresentation?

David Gans is the director of the Human Rights, Civil Rights and Citizenship Program at the Constitutional Accountability Center, a think tank and law firm. The Express-News published a column by him on constitutional requirements in the past year (“Count all people, as Constitution requires, March 10) in which he stated that “someone who was enslaved would be counted as three-fifths of a person” for the purpose of determining representation in Congress.

The magnitude of this constitutional illiteracy is not restricted to those on the political left. Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice routinely stated in her speeches, “In the original U.S. Constitution, I was only three-fifths of a person.”

In 1787, the founders were attempting to form a union and preserve the nascent United States. This imperfect compromise allowed for preservation of the republic while also confronting the moral and systemic evils of slavery. Erroneous and distorted interpretations of the Constitution only intensify the societal divide in America.

Hope that gives a better understanding how the Lib Left Loons consistently lie about shit.

🇺🇸 Protect The 1st & 2nd Amendments - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By Strongmember# at 14,Nov,20 01:31 other posts of Strongmember# 
I hadn't noticed this reply before. I need to address it. While you technically have described the true intention of the 3/5 law, if we agree that black people were never technically 3/5 of human beings under law, then we must acknowledge that most of them at that time were not considered "free" thus they did not have rights granted to citizens in the original Constitution. I don't know if that interpretation of the Constitution resonates as more moral. I am not anti-constitution. I just know how to read it. Despite some of its content being the result of compromise and existing political realities of the time, that rationalization does not change the document. There were reasons why there was not only a 13th amendment but associated 14th and 15th amendments.
By tecsan at 16,Feb,21 03:44 other posts of tecsan 
Blacks were not considered free by democraps...Took a Republican to free them from the democraps...Right...

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Nov,20 10:04 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. In this argument some people go back to the beginnings of our republic or early wars. Some to the Civil War. Others to the 1960's or even now to the time the first knee touched the ground during a performance of the national anthem. It's all hooey. The truth is that you and your fellow bigots know you are wrong and you try to hide behind your amendment 1 and 2 to suit your arguments. There are good, honest cops out there. Most are decent and do a hard job to the best of their ability. Then there's the sons of bitches that "call a spade a spade". They think they wear a uniform to "keep them in line". Them n I g g e r s wont get away with anything.
Well, Black Lives Matter........to blacks. White lives matter to whites. And no one wants to see that there's something basically wrong with police departments that don't weed out the bigots in their ranks. I'm up to my eyeballs listening and reading about both sides of the argument. I rather see disrespectful people than murderers and their minimisers.
By dgraff at 17,Nov,20 06:14 other posts of dgraff 
Awwww little miss angel 😇 trying to single handedly save the world and for what let’s just get it over with and all kill each other the world is doomed
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 07:35 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Not really. Most of the world is not worth saving. I mention it but I don't care if they kill each other. Dead black, dead cop. Trump didn't give a crap. I want to be the same
By tecsan at 23,Nov,20 00:39 other posts of tecsan 
That is a very sad statement...Most of the world not worth saving...You have to be kidding...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 17,Nov,20 23:38 other posts of tecsan 
You have a good idea there...Just turn it on yourself...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 at 17,Nov,20 23:42
LOL Who said you don't have a sense of humor...

By tecsan at 25,Dec,20 04:37 other posts of tecsan 
Wow think again...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 18,Feb,21 01:40 other posts of tecsan 
Your friends go back to early years which opened it up for me...Pay attention...

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 07:39 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
By phart at 17,Nov,20 09:33 other posts of phart 
can't ban the guns unless the blacks stay in black areas and don't threaten the whites.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 11:10 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
It's the other way around. Whites are threatening the blacks. Blacks should be given cash vouchers to buy guns and protect THEMSELVES from killer whites.
By tecsan at 23,Nov,20 00:43 other posts of tecsan 
I think we should get illegal guns off the street...Any criminal that wants one can get one...Look what a law abiding citizen goes through to buy a handgun...The focus should be on the illegal weapons...Wow, dems just want to get rid of them alltogether...༼☯﹏☯༽

By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Feb,21 05:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"unless the blacks stay in black areas and don't threaten the whites"
That's a segregationists statement.
Another word for segregationist: racist!

How about not having black areas and white areas at all?
By phart at 09,Feb,21 12:23 other posts of phart 
It doesn't work. The goverment desegregated the schools.As soon as people grow up and become able to decide where they want to go,they go back to being with their own kind.It is natural.
We are different.Equal,but different.To try to erase that difference is ignorant.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Feb,21 15:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your wrong, they are in their black areas just because of poverty and you are in your white areas because you don't want black people around you.
I'm not saying there are no white or black areas in The Netherlands and it's true that minorities are much more concentrated in the poor areas and much less in the rich areas, but it's much more mixed here.
I live in a moderately priced row of houses and about 30% of families are first or second generation non-white immigrants. They are all doing well in their lives. They have good jobs, their children are doing their best in school or they are getting their careers well on the way. They are friendly, hospitable, social and trustworthy. As a matter of fact they make much better neighbors than the white people. In our whole street there are two white families we socialize with and the rest are just neighbors we greet on the street and maybe have some small talk with. They are all very private people.
The non white people are much more open and inviting. There are two families we socialize with regularly and two other families every now and then.
It feels like they just value community a lot more. I don't know if that is the same in the US and maybe it takes a lot more to fix mistrust between your people, but I think you're missing out from that separation.

By tecsan at 18,Nov,20 02:20 other posts of tecsan 
Oh hell did you really state that...I like you, but that statement is very debatable and you know it...That is the most ridiculous comment on here I have read...That is just plain stupid...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 18,Nov,20 07:49 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
And yet, it’s true. tecsan

By dgraff at 18,Nov,20 05:25 other posts of dgraff 
Hunny do you understand how many people would have to die if they came up MY mountain and tried to take My guns the numbers would be out of this world 🌎
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 18,Nov,20 07:50 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Sacrifices must be made. If nessesary you go too
By Strongmember# at 23,Nov,20 07:19 other posts of Strongmember# 
@tescan there are many ways for seemingly anyone to put together an arsenal of serious weapons. I remember all the way back to Columbine when people wondered how those teens got all that stuff.. just drove to a gun show. I do have a fantasy that we could eliminate every gun from America.. I know super radical of me.. but there are way too many guns already out there for that to be a reasonable proposition. I understand the hunting sport.. but I think rules have been stretched when regular citizens can sport Military assault weapons. Alas people want them and its big business so probably won't change
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 23,Nov,20 09:48 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
It wont change until we change the head of the senate. Long guns for hunting is ok, Paramilitary rifles are are not. I believe we can change that

By phart at 30,Nov,20 16:48 other posts of phart 
Here is what some folks don't understand.This mask-pandemic=borderline socialist lockdown thing is a good indicator of enforcement.
When 20 men go out to take someones guns,and only 3 leave empty handed bleeding,it won't take long for folks paid to "enforce" the law will tell the chief to go fuck themselves.Besides the only bumpstocks and shit of that sort I ever saw,were owned by the folks that would be expected to go around and gather every one elses. That is because they know more about what is happening,could happen and probably will happen now that a dem is going back in the white house.
Getting rid the guns is a liberal wet dream that won't happen in this century.

Do something about the reason someone would want to kill you or someone else.That is much easier and doable.

By tecsan at 24,Dec,20 22:35 other posts of tecsan 
I agree with the very last statement, "cops should stay out of black areas" and see how long it takes them to call in the Police to curb the violence...

By SrCums at 23,Nov,20 14:44 other posts of SrCums 
Perfect morality is Godlike wisdom. In this physical world we will never reach this plateau because it is infinity, like picturing the mathematical value of PI(3.14 and so on)No matter how many decimal points you display you will never reach that limit. Mathematically, infinity does not exist however when you combine math and love for one another it creates a perfect sphere.
The constitution is an idea. An idea to achieve ever upward using compassion and unity as a tool to perform the image of God thus walking with him,her side by side as ONE. This is the idea. In this physical world of pain, suffering and egoism this limit will never be achieve but as we strive ever upward in attempt to form a perfect sphere so does our evolution of wisdom. The constitution was derived from Plato's Republic in order to define "justice" to achieve liberty for all. Doing what is right!
When we experience anger and hatred it takes this perfect sphere and dismantles it. Trump is the first president since Lincoln in an attempt to achieve unity through our hearts and compassion thus striving ever upward to reform the sphere of morality.

By Strongmember# at 23,Nov,20 15:47 other posts of Strongmember# 
I agreed with most of this. Though I believe Plato's preferred form of government was Aristocracy and not democracy, but we went with democracy, still going strong. With such a pure message I don't think you need to choose only 2 presidents, Lincoln and Trump, who have achieved unity ...toward greater morality.

Maybe you are just trying to clickbait me with this one. It does seem Trump united 72 or so million voters.. not positive most recent count.. even if we say its higher.. it seems like people are arguing now more than ever.. that this country is very divided politically and to a level of greater aggression than before, so I definitely do not see evidence of that piece of the ending.
By SrCums at 23,Nov,20 19:58 other posts of SrCums 
A rose is a rose! By any other name, smells just as sweet.


You are paranoid. First of all its closer to 80 million. That will be proven too since many votes were thrown in the garbage, shredded or burned..Luckily there is reserve databases.. I don't even know you... OR DO I?.. This raises my suspicions. as I said. You're critical thinking level is junior high proficiency. This is a debate stage here in forum. If you agree then great.. If not well that's fine too...
For your info,, the conservatives never argued about anything. Its the democrats that fund terror iincluding domestic terrorism which is a number of groups. It is the democrats using fake hoaxes, 25th amendment bullshit to say Trump is not fit to be president.. The people spoke.. as far whether they agree or not,, tell them I said "FUCK YOU"..Here in 2020 there is blatant fraud universally in the world. Here in the United States what is going on here is simple. Our country is being invaded by globalist's through economic channels. Traitors of the constitution are using voter fraud to form a coup... Nothing has been brought to court yet but it will...Since the left is trying hard to delay and postpone recounts and investigations it is not too hard to figure out they know what they did. We know what they did too.. Afterall,, if you are sure you won then why resist the recounts.. If they played straight up there is nothing to worry about... So why bitch????? Let the constitution and justice take its course..Why threaten to kill children if you don't get your way.. Sounds like terrorists to me. Again, tell the bastards I said "FUCK YOU"

By Strongmember# at 23,Nov,20 22:00 other posts of Strongmember# 
At first I only could see the Shakespeare quote. I was a bit perplexed and wondered what point you felt you made.

You should have left it there.

First I am paranoid. Then you ask if you know me. Then talk about suspicions. Unless that was your little dramatic segway into landing your first punchy dis, about how my critical thinking doesn't qualify me for varsity Model UN. Is that the proficiency you're going for, or too high? The most disheartening continuing result of these debates I feel is that positions are seeming to harden. I attempt to concede a point or admit when I do not know something with certainty, in an attempt to.. (what was that word? I'll use the verb form) "unify" the two sides of our nation. Maybe you perceive that as weak debating, but call me Old School I just really respect the achievements of Lincoln and Trump bringing the people together. I try to remember to use compassion.

As far as the remaining content of this post, I don't recall taking a strong viewpoint about whether conservatives or democrats were the ones who had argued. I don't think I made strong comments on the election either unless I alluded to it some other time in another post.

If I believed all those things you are saying I would also be outraged. Actually I am chill. I'm not bitching about the recounts. If it helps people feel more confident in the results then we can let this play out a bit longer. The Trump legal team can do all investigations and present their findings to the various courts.

I hope, as part of us should all hope, despite which candidate we want in office, that we don't find our election had more holes than Swiss cheese, because if it was that easily done, I would have to question how long it has been that way, if the election has potentially always been rigged. If that emerges later as the consensus conclusion I fear our democracy and the foundations of our nation will come into question. Perhaps more so around the world where we have been trying to promote democracy for many years. The Constitution's strong reputation might get dragged down as collateral, the document you earlier spoke of as a triumphant capture of an ambitious idea that set us on the correct path toward continuing to achieve better.

If all legal and other measures result in a vote count with Biden holding significant electoral and popular vote leads I hope that you might consider re-evaluating some of your assertions.

Some of the things you mentioned like Fake Hoaxes from the Democrats (is this Climate Change or Covid, both of which are undeniable truths), funding domestic terror ( perhaps this stems from George Soros, a significant campaign donor yes, but still just one man, gave some money to some groups involved in demos/riots, I don't know what your definition of Globalist is exactly, because we live in a very global world. Politicians around the world love to push the nationalism button to get people riled up. We are still a sovereignty with perhaps more freedoms than any other nation, the economy and information sharing already went global decades ago, some of it natural, some of it driven by soulless corporations that only selfishly seek more profit for shareholders by design. While Corporations won that Citizens United case for free speech to donate to elections, and they also have the power to do many things, they lack final accountability. Corporations can't go to prison. Corporations have interests in many elections. So do foreign governments. There are likely domestic Americans who would like to cheat the election. The question now remains, is it really that easy? If it is that easy, how can we be so sure who is behind it all, after-all if it is so easy why didn't many other groups try to cheat the election.

I can only speak for myself but I did not threaten to kill children, didn't think we should not recount or listen to Trump's legal team, but under the premise that the world is a mess and fraud is easy, it makes it difficult to put fraud claims behind hundreds of whistleblowers who were first politically motivated possibly to say they saw shady things, then people began offering them money to come forward. And now it has gone next level to Dominion as well.

This nation is very tense right now. We need to somehow move forward, but hopefully not this disparagingly divided, so I won't end my post with an 'FSociety' homage to Mr. Robot. I'm not an anarchist. Just someone who cares, tries to stay informed, tries to listen, and has a little too much available time this Sunday evening he is now realizing.
By SrCums at 23,Nov,20 22:12 other posts of SrCums 
You challenged me with money betting. I considered that rude
By Strongmember# at 24,Nov,20 05:42 other posts of Strongmember# 
Fair enough. Sorry.

By SrCums at 23,Nov,20 22:17 other posts of SrCums 
Globalists are to create a global socialistc totalitarian government. I'm really confused on how you don't undertand ths. The main objective is to destroy israel then to focus on Christians and I believe Islamism eventually.

Google globalistic regime.. then support your opinions.. Appears you don't know what these peope are trying to do
By Strongmember# at 24,Nov,20 05:55 other posts of Strongmember# 
I equally don't understand how you believe this. I got involved with some work things late and now tired. I actually have been working in Asia for 7 years. Back this year to visit family and stayed through the Covid lockdowns. I don't work in China, southeast Asia. I do think about things globally often for my work. Globalistic Regime could I guess mean different things but I suppose it is one particular theory. It will be a challenge if all the information comes from one collective that has assembled together this narrative, but I will give it a shot. From a preliminary read the desired goals seem to leave I suppose only 2 potential actors.. China and Russia. Only their beliefs would support social, totalitarian, no religion. However i cannot imagine them assimilating. Ok. I'll look into it.
By SrCums at 24,Nov,20 06:07 other posts of SrCums 
Do your homework before debating me aggressively. Know the facts.. that is what defines a good debater instead of annoying propaganda of he said she said.. Trump earned the presidency and it was taken away.. The whole world knows it,,, whether he wins or not.. I've just defined democracy for you and you come back saying it wasn't called that.. Well who cares? The shakespere quote is what it is.. take it or leave it.
By Strongmember# at 01,Dec,20 23:53 other posts of Strongmember# 
I do my best to discuss facts not opinion. Sometimes I insert opinion of course. As for democracy definition, is that because I discussed Plato? I was referencing material which can be checked. Plato argued at some point that only the intellectual elite should be allowed to govern, as opposed to democracy as we know it. Im not saying which was correct, just mentioned it.
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Btw I tried looking more into your globalist theory. I didn't want to respond without learning more. However, because I don't know about your particular theory does not mean I don't know about global economics and politics. This is actually my educational background and correlates with much of my career learning. If you want to list our sources from now on we can. I have no ill intent here. I only believe I am correct and hope to influence people to believe me according to my perceived knowledge

By SrCums at 24,Nov,20 05:57 other posts of SrCums 
You're the one making accusations, not me. You challenge me with hard earned money then when I call you out you say this stupid crap...Democrats threatened children of poll certifiers exposing names and addresses... Before you bullshit here find facts and do some research. I'm sick of retracting bullshit. You want to debate, then debate but don't include shit you haven't researched or just plain out right lying.. That's rude too and I'm smarter than that.
Look,, I gave my analogy on democracy and morality. It wasn't directed at you, just my analysis.. You are paranoid because you accused me of saying it was to trigger you.. THAT'S PARANOID so shut up. Your writing is clearly the same with Huxley999, FatPig-BElla , hotpussy and so many others attacking me with my religion.. I assert you are not who you say you are.
By Strongmember# at 01,Dec,20 23:50 other posts of Strongmember# 
I called it clickbait because i felt the need to debate it. I did not mean it in a paranoid way, I was actually wondering if you cleverly wrote it to attract more debators.

Sorry I was busy a few days. The bet I intended to be something that would not affect anyone financially, but was gauging confidence. It was about who would end up in the white house late January. It is still trending my way but I don't back it up with nothing. In a court of law the burden of proof for this major claim of major election fraud is on the accusers. All around the country the court cases are being lost, even when Trump appointed judges are involved.

Btw I don't know who those other people are and I don't think I wrote anythig about your religion...
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To be clear I respect everyone's religious beliefs and attacking that is not my style

By tecsan at 14,Oct,20 03:57 other posts of tecsan 
I would kiss your ass if Kaepernick could even tell me who wrote the national anthem...Hmmm...A thinker for you maybe...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Oct,20 14:25 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Francis Scott Key was the author and the music was popular for othe reasons but.it was not until 1932 that it was officially named our anthem. So, while waiting for prohibition to end you could take a knee
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And when you come down to it. ANY LIFE is worth more than some silly piece of music.
By tecsan at 18,Oct,20 01:13 other posts of tecsan 
If I ever kneel during the national anthem...I will be dead and prone or supine...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 18,Nov,20 02:24 other posts of tecsan 
Good google search there...I would have believed it until you started stating facts...Dont google it and state the facts as you see them on google...Hell, I knew the answer, but not as detailed as your google answer...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 23,Nov,20 00:45 other posts of tecsan 
By the way would kiss your ass if he could not also...༼☯﹏☯༽

By ANGEL1227! at 19,Nov,20 16:15 other posts of ANGEL1227! 
sorry you had that happen willy, to me from your pics, your dick when it is standing upright, seems very normal in size and nothing to be mournful about, being shy is awkward, I once was too - I guarantee if you "show hard for blow" standing at a urinal, nobody will embarrass you - heck they might grab it and jerk you off or haul you into a stall and suck you dry

By tecsan at 26,Nov,20 02:26 other posts of tecsan 
Like I have stated, just using a large platform to get his stupid message across...Look at him now...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 11,Dec,20 23:12 other posts of tecsan 
Maybe keapernick has time to think about his washed up career now...༼☯﹏☯༽

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Dec,20 18:22 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Women After Soldier’s Killing by fellow soldiers.

Women in the military say the horrific killing of Army Specialist Vanessa Guillen has swept the nation, galvanizing even civilians to the cause.

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I wonder if kneeling for this soldier is allowed?

By tecsan at 21,Dec,20 03:27 other posts of tecsan 
Because it is the National Anthem...Believe most veterans that can stand and salute the flag during the playing of it will agree with me...As for 1812, I will tell you the same as I was told about the past...Remember who set slaves free??? Was it a dem or a rep...???I was told the past is in the past...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 24,Dec,20 10:15 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Should I be offended when vets stand for the anthem?

By tecsan at 03,Feb,21 02:27 other posts of tecsan 
Bet my two favs do not kneel...Pat or Tom...
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I was right...But, hell they both are smart and intelligent...
By Strongmember# at 09,Feb,21 03:40 other posts of Strongmember# 
I'm trying to stop arguing politics on the web.. especially dick sites of all places.. lol.. this thread has been on a while.. will it live forever?
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I'm trying to stop arguing politics on the web.. especially dick sites of all places.. lol.. this thread has been on a while.. will it live forever?

Maybe kink it up. Tom doesn't kneel cause everyone is sucking his cock.. eh. takers?

By everett at 01,Jan,21 21:48 other posts of everett 
me not politic but any see the american flag stand up for all who died the make us free thats just m ndn
By tecsan at 12,Jan,21 02:16 other posts of tecsan 
Not sure I got your meaning in the last two...༼☯﹏☯༽
By everett at 30,Jan,21 03:46 other posts of everett 
native american
By tecsan at 31,Jan,21 00:13 other posts of tecsan 
That is great...Still read your first post and explain a little better...

By tecsan at 24,Dec,20 04:32 other posts of tecsan 
Just wonder how many teenagers know whom the hell kaepernick is???None that I can find...Hell, I do not know what he is up to nor do I give a crap...
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 24,Dec,20 10:12 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
So what's your point. In the middle of a pandemic where literally thousands of people are dying daily, you think anyone cares if a professional football player kneeled while one of the most ugly sounding national anthems was being played? Hell, that anthem was born in the 1930's. What happened before that at the beginning of a game? They all whipped it out and took a leak? Get real.
By tecsan at 24,Dec,20 22:24 other posts of tecsan 
Come on, I know and you know there is more to it than that...
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 25,Dec,20 09:53 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Come on yourself, all I know is that if vets were protesting the Afghany war that way, everyone would be applauding
There's little more than that. If Trump hadn't gotten involved it would be a minor demonstration that just makes you think a little.
By tecsan at 27,Dec,20 04:19 other posts of tecsan 
There are too if's there...Sorry second guessing does not work...
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 27,Dec,20 08:26 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
My answer (the first part) was an educated guess based on the FACT that vets are revered, as they should be, and the public supports any endeavor to help vets.

I stated the second part as if there could be a second explanation. It should not have been an "if". Trump got involved and made a reasonable protest a MAGA supporter issue. It reclassified the players as un-American instead of bona fide protesters. This is not second guessing. Do some research and you'll find it's the view of many prominent reporters.

Second guessing is valid only if your first guess is wrong. Guessing is a legitimate way to arrive at explanations. General Eisenhower did not say, "let's interview the German High Command to see if an Allied invasion of France is a good deal." in WWII. He GUESSED THE INVASION WAS A GOOD THING

By phart at 25,Dec,20 11:57 other posts of phart 
The country was born centurys ago, does that mean it doesn't matter now? 1000's are dieing from a terriable virus,do you think anyone cares if someone is concerned about income disparity,or police on black crime or whatever the fad is this week? I do remember very well he was kneeling for income disparity at first them it became something else when folks told him to just give his paycheck to those he thought deserved more.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 25,Dec,20 13:11 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
phart you are full of it.

Kaepernick said this. Well, I'm not going to stand for the flag of a country that oppresses black people and people of color. And then he talked about, you know, social injustices and police brutality and why he thought, you know, he shouldn't be standing for the anthem.

And guess who convinced him to take a knee.
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Direct from NPR,
Retired Army Green Beret Nate Boyer is the man who first convinced Colin Kaepernick to kneel during the national anthem



By phart at 25,Dec,20 13:17 other posts of phart 
It is not a matter of worship of the confederacy,it is a matter of rememberance for our fallen ancestors fighting for what they felt was right.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 25,Dec,20 13:27 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
There's no rememberance. They are in love with the antics of General Hood. Most couldn't tell you the name of the capital of the Confederacy, how many states seceeded or if Florida surrendered and signed papers. In other words, they have this immage of valiant soldiers fighting for a noble cause. In reality, it wasn't a noble cause and they were all traitors.
By phart at 25,Dec,20 13:59 other posts of phart 
most of the poor were simply fighting to protect their homes and familys.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 25,Dec,20 15:07 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
The Nazis said the same
By tecsan at 01,Jan,21 02:39 other posts of tecsan 
Kaepernick is a piece of crap and ruined nike...Where is he now seriously...༼☯﹏☯༽
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Can someone please tell me where kaepernick is now...Used to be a star quaterback in the NFL...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 19,Jan,21 02:30 other posts of tecsan 
The pandemic has nothing to do with it...This started before the pandemic and has slowly started to stop because of the consequences...Maybe I will post a question about the pandemic and we can talk about that...

By everett at 01,Jan,21 04:15 other posts of everett 
me like the qb for sf but stupid
By tecsan at 01,Jan,21 21:34 other posts of tecsan 
Jimmy sucks as a QB...I really like Lamar Jackson...But hell this is America and we both are entitled to our own opinion...

By tecsan at 18,Jan,21 03:41 other posts of tecsan 
Damn LJ let me down but I bet my fav wins the superbowl...He does not kneel for anything...Especially BS...Kneel before or after the national anthem, then ok, but the platform of kneeling before just gets more attention, thus why Kaepernick is a washed up piece of crap...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 17,Jan,21 03:03 other posts of tecsan 
Bet Kaepernick wishes he never did it either...There are more appropriate ways to get your point across...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 13,Jan,21 04:21 other posts of tecsan 
Bet Mayfield ends up in the same boat as looser Kaepernick...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 12,Jan,21 02:17 other posts of tecsan 
Mayfield can do the same as silly Kaepernick...Let us see where that lands him...༼☯﹏☯༽

By phart at 28,Dec,20 15:02 other posts of phart 
If Kapernickle thinks I am listening,he is wrong,
If I wanted advice or ideas from someone who chases a ball,I would ask my dog!
By tecsan at 29,Dec,20 00:03 other posts of tecsan 

By tecsan at 30,Nov,20 00:52 other posts of tecsan 
See that fewer are kneeling at NFL games now...I would have simply told them, kneel you sit on the bench...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 30,Nov,20 10:24 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
And they would have said, "sayanara baby, we are out of here. Let's see how many games you can play with only six guys on the field. Hope you've got enough cash to cover the absence of ticket buyers."
And all because some right wingers don't know how freedom of speech works
By phart at 30,Nov,20 13:50 other posts of phart 
When you are working,doing your job,you are not at liberty to "speak" your mind as freely as you are when off the job.
Some companys prevent folks from wearing a hat with a logo on it such as the Pepsi man wearing a Coke Hat.
Or a Biden Campaign worker wearing a Trump hat.
When on the foot ball feild, making millions of dollars playing for suckers that work for peanuts and blow it all to watch you squabble over a ball,you are not free to "speak" you are doing a job.Your team owner may respect the flag,so your action could be construded as representing your team,not your own views.So it shouldn't have been tolerated from the git go.
Now folks miss interpret the freedom of speach.
I guess it is ok for Biden to wear a red Maga hat now?
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 30,Nov,20 14:46 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
I still stand by my statement. This is not a fuddy duddy difference of opinions. I believe the players would strike
By phart at 30,Nov,20 16:44 other posts of phart 
Yep,and a lawyer probably has a loophole in the contract so the team owners can fire their butts to.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 30,Nov,20 16:50 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
How would that help? Either way the owner would loose millions.
By phart at 30,Nov,20 18:28 other posts of phart 
It would open the door to new players to be hired for the team that appreciate the good job and good pay.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 30,Nov,20 20:40 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
You are not much on football, are you.
By phart at 01,Dec,20 08:36 other posts of phart 
not much,ha,none at all on sports in general
All that effort could be doing something useful.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 01,Dec,20 08:59 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
So you think that public entertainment is not useful? Putting aside the joy sports bring to the public. Do you have any idea how much money these sports bring to local (and even national) coffers?

Well. At least your way of thinking is consistent.
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By tecsan at 01,Dec,20 22:43 other posts of tecsan 
He simply stated his opinion...Harris 2024...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Dec,20 18:15 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
And we are all entitled to our opinion no matter how dumb ass you sound expressing those opinions

By phart at 12,Dec,20 09:25 other posts of phart 
I don't watch the olympics but from what I glanced over yesterday,if you are a olympic person you can protest now during the games,boy that is real smart.Start a fucking war during a pole vault contest.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Dec,20 18:11 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
No, you dumb fuck. The war will start when we screw the females in the other team and they like it. Remember, we are the land of the black athlete. Black American males have bigger and better dicks.

By tecsan at 13,Dec,20 03:05 other posts of tecsan 
Glad to see not many in the NFL are following in kaepernick's BS...༼☯﹏☯༽
By phart at 13,Dec,20 08:40 other posts of phart 
All those players are not dumb.They know it is a time to bring the country together not further seperate.Biden will take over the seperation of country and freedom without the help of the atheletes.

By ANGEL1227! at 13,Dec,20 08:50 other posts of ANGEL1227! 
It's too cold hanging your junk outside your pants

By tecsan at 30,Nov,20 23:48 other posts of tecsan 
I tell everyone in the NFL to join kaepernick and kneel...See where it gets your ass...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 01,Dec,20 09:01 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
It would get my ass into a good place. I would le be proud to have been the first one. Money, work. Those are not as important
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By tecsan at 30,Nov,20 23:28 other posts of tecsan 
Also I would have told all of them to look at Kaepernick now...Want to join him...Maybe nike should have thought about that...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 23,Nov,20 23:39 other posts of tecsan 
Stop with with the hundred year old crap...We respect and accept the national anthem and have for many years...No one questioned the validity of it til now...How ridiculous...༼☯﹏☯༽

By SrCums at 17,Nov,20 11:18 other posts of SrCums 
The media, social media, hollywood scumbags, FBI, CIA, ANTIFA, BLM , Rhino Fucktard Republicans, Democraps ,,,, no matter what you name them are all the same name of globalists attempting to overthrow the constitution of the United States through propaganda.
Trump knew this was going to happen and they took the bait. When the time is right operation "Release the Kraken" will be implemented where all of this will be exposed. The 80 million followers will be well educated and unite. Trump will overturn the phony election. If the certification board goes ahead and certifies the murderer lying diaper pooping Joe Biden Trumps lawyers will set them aside in the suit and press charges. You do not know what you are dealing with and neither does the deep state chronies.
By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Nov,20 15:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You are really loosing your mind now. Pick up what's left of your brain, before you can't function anymore in real life.
By SrCums at 17,Nov,20 19:31 other posts of SrCums 
Based on your experience of forgetting to pick up your mind after it came shittin out ya ass I'll make sure I don't end up like you.

By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 00:18 other posts of SrCums 
On a more indepth scale I've noticed that the difference between Trump Supporters and Trump Haters.. First of all to liberals if it was a choice between Charles Mansion or Hitler vs Trump in an election the hard core Liberal would voter for the later because they hate Trump. This is personal and egoistic. It's not for what's good for the country just that they hate him is why they will vote for Hitler. Even if the constitution shows this in black and white they do not care. Anything to get him out. The law of the land is law and I do not know what can be so hard to figure out. If there is a law you want to change write your congressmen and ask him to bring it to the floor.. If voted yes it goes to senate then to the president.. Ironically, Trump suppers vote for Trump because they believe him. They love him because they know he is telling the truth. The main reason you do not see what I'm saying is that you cannot put the pieces together. History will show that everything I mentioned above actually connects to form one movement. But if you can only see one dimension then you can't see the real picture. If you truly don't understand then move outside the lines and see everything in its true appearance. The 80 million followers are quite intelligent. They have college degrees or higher and even the lower middle class don't have to figure it out because they can relate to trump and agree what the deep state has done to them for decades.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 06:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Trump lost! Get over it.

Don't you get it, the majority of people is against Trump and has been from his inauguration. Trumps approval rating has never even reached 50% and was at 35% in 2017. His disapproval rating has been above 50% almost constantly and topped 60% several times.

Some swing voters voted for Trump, because he promised great healthcare, higher wages and not to cut social security. He didn't deliver and turned out to be a standard Republican on policy. A big majority of people actually prefer progressive policies. Then COVID-19 came and Trump fucked up. That's why the swing voters are not making the same mistake again.

It's not difficult to understand. More people really hate Trump than there are people who like him. That's why Trump lost. It was absolutely clear that he would loose months and months before the election. That's why Trump invented the whole fraud scheme, months and months before the election. Because he is a big baby and because he is afraid all his crimes will catch up with him.
By #551147 at 18,Nov,20 06:47
Trump lost? 😳

By who's authority?

Cause YOURS damn sure don't mean shit!

Now, by who's authority? Show me the "official" proof...

As to the rest of that bullshit you typed out. You talk like a guy with a paper asshole.

Ok, I'll comment on one!

YOU SAID ➡️ "It was absolutely clear that he would loose months and months before the election."

"Clear" like they was going to sweep the House and Senate too? That clear?

Ok I lied, one more!

YOU SAID ➡️ "More people really hate Trump" Is that why his voter count increased exponentially from the first time?

No one's buying the crap YOU'RE selling, so I'm not sure why you insist on peddling it.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 07:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
By who's authority? That's what you have elections for.

You think approval and disapproval ratings are bullshit or do you think the numbers were bullshit?

Biden under-performed a lot, but he still won by 5-6 million in the popular vote and he won the electoral college with 290 over 232. Hillary also had 323 electoral votes in 2016. That's how unpopular Trump is now; at the level of Hillary.

It's true that many people voted for Trump, but more voted for Biden. Turnout was massive, because it was the most polarized election ever.

It's not crap, it's data! Everyone outside of your stupid cult recognizes that.

Just saying my arguments are bullshit doesn't disclaim them, if you have no data or logic to give your points any substance.
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By #551147 at 18,Nov,20 08:29
Unno, I thought YOU were a little swifter than that.

I SEE that you're NOT! My bad! 🙈 🙊 🙉

Show me in the United States CONSTITUTION where it gives any of them fucking people the AUTHORITY to call an election. I'll be waiting patiently...

In the mean time, let's just not believe our eyes like you and some other morons want.

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That was some HELLIFIED cheating!

I got hand it to them.

Only flaw in their plan, we aren't quite as stupid as they look.
By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 09:41 other posts of SrCums 
The certifiers of the election should they certify without investigation will end up in themselves being under investigation for fraud.. It should interest you that the company that certified the fraud Venezuela elections that Chavez cheated is the same one running this election. Now there is evidence with the Biden campaign, Venezuela and china. Numerous investigations to commence no matter who wins.

By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 09:46 other posts of SrCums 
Look up the company
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 09:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
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By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 12:06 other posts of SrCums 
very good.. you're smarter than you look..

By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 09:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Yes, that's how it works.

You have no answer to the polls, except for some ignorant pictures.
You know big cities vote blue. Big cities have more people and therefore more electors. Land area can't vote. You are showing a picture of the outcome of the election with 290 for Biden over over 232 for Trump. That's how that works, so showing it doesn't say shit about the voters, just about your ignorance.

The elections are not a popularity contest. Trump is extremely popular with 30% of Americans. That's enough to fill a picture, congrats. Still, 50% to 60% dislike Trump and that's why they voted for Biden. I'm sure Trump would have won, if it wasn't for COVID-19 or if he had done a good job. The majority of people think he did a poor job, so they voted for the other guy. That's how democracy works.

By SrCums at 23,Nov,20 20:15 other posts of SrCums 
That first map you posted,, how much of that color is cheating?

By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 09:37 other posts of SrCums 
These polls are all fake. Do you really think trump supporters are as stupid as you? I stand by my previous statement of media, CIA ECT... You should try reading and putting jigsaw puzzles together. Apparently you were an underprivileged child.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 09:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure Fox News is the biggest FAKE NEWS in the US. But always in favor of the Republicans. So what's your point.
By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 11:34 other posts of SrCums 
Bullshit, Fox is leaning left. They've joined your fake news syndicate. You know what,, this is when the adults come swinging here.. No good for you.. Go back to spongebob. and the hair bear bunch.

By SrCums at 19,Nov,20 08:17 other posts of SrCums 
By who's authority? To me your just a fake making wanker that never got laid pretending to be smart...

By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 09:35 other posts of SrCums 
NOPE.. The race is not over. You haven't been following the headlines.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 09:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It is over and Biden is the winner.
What headlines could you have seen that say otherwise.

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Still 290 vs 232!
By #551147 at 18,Nov,20 11:16
Here you go!

One last try to help keep you from being a complete sincere ignoramus.

If you don't understand it now, there's no help for you!

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Last update is CLEARLY visible.

Now! Stick it in your pie hole.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 14:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So you don't count all the states that are contested by Trump. Biden won in those states with tens to hundreds of thousand of votes. All the claims of fraud have been slapped down by the judges so far, with no wins for the Trump team at all yet. Some recounts are happening, but they will just turn out the same result.

With all those contested states Biden won, Trump still has only 5 points lead. You think the judges will flip all those states Biden won with big leads, while he hasn't succeeded in showing any fraud at all yet? That's delusional.

By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 12:07 other posts of SrCums 
stupid one.. Are you a dense bitch or just so fucked up you don't know anything.. here,, one more time.. real slower........ Media outlets do NOT certify the winner.. What the fuck is wrong with you?
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 14:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh really, what happened with the Bush election? Bush won, because the media declared him the winner in Florida.
Off course the media doesn't have an official ruling, that's up to the states electors, isn't it. If you think not, than explain it to me.

In any case, the Supreme Court cannot name the winner of an election. All legal challenges to the legitimacy of the mail-in ballots must first start at the state level. The Supreme Court is the final appeals court but it chooses which cases it will hear. If the court turns down a case or there is a tie on the decision the lower court's ruling stands.

If none of the candidates wins 270 electoral votes, the House of Representatives would decide who wins. It would be interesting to find out whether the House, with a Democratic majority, believes Trumps unsubstantiated claims of major election fraud and would decide he wins.
By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 15:08 other posts of SrCums 
WRONG... He won because the supreme court ruled. The media has nothing to do with who wins the election.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Nov,20 16:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Supreme Court ruled that the Florida Supreme Court's decision, calling for a statewide recount, violated the Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment.
They didn't decide Bush won.

So, Trump can only win when the courts (supreme or lower) decide that Trumps claim of fraud are valid.

"Trump has shown nothing like systemic fraud in any of the lawsuits, 17 and counting, that his campaign and allies have filed since Election Day." "His campaign lost in courts in Michigan and Pennsylvania and dropped a challenge in Arizona. On Monday, four cases in those two states and also Georgia and Wisconsin, all brought by the conservative lawyer James Bopp on behalf of Trump voters, were also dropped."

You cannot take lawsuits to the supreme court, after you've dropped them. I hope you know that.
By SrCums at 18,Nov,20 16:50 other posts of SrCums 
So which is the apple and which is the orange? Gore lost because he didn't even campaign in his own state of TN.. If he had then Florida would not have been an issue. Gore lost..
You've got sworn affidavits from 1000's of people under the penalty of perjury. How are you going to spin your lies with that???
Trump was in the homestretch of the election with a clear path to victory in WI, NC, MI, GA.. That's the reason they called time out. Who the fuck has the right to do that? They called "time out" so they can flood the booths with illegal votes.. This is the orange. Oh and by the way this time there is ample evidence which your fucking media said there was none. Who the fuck are they to say there is no evidence? Its like me telling the doctor there is no evidence and to get over the fact that my mother has no cancer.. Who is qualified. There is evidence and the country is coming down with the deep state.
Who appointed them detectives? They are just TV propagandists that have lied their entire career for the left. The election board chooses. I hope they do. Because if they do certify because of the abundance of evidence they have it would only mean jail for them.... Biden is a fugitive fighting restraining orders from Ukraine for multiple felony counts of money laundering and selling out secrets with evidence. This is the least of his problems..
Don't worry my dear. This will be all over soon
For 4 years they have slandered this president. When this is said and done every single person is going to be exposed including the Clintons and Biden who is guilty of drug money laundering and child sex trafficking's while selling classified documents to enemy countries. This is nothing. The grand knock out blow from trump is coming..
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Nov,20 06:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How do you get from 234 pages to 1000's of people?
As for now, none of those claims have been shown to contain evidence of voter fraud. In one state there were 592 disputed ballots. They did not show there was any fraud involved and it's not enough to flip the vote.

It's just kabuki theater to make you distrust this election and elections in general. Or how do you explain that Trump knew months before that Democrats were planning fraud?

I agree the should get to the bottom of this, but all legal ballots should be counted. If the judges finally rule that there was no fraud or after any fraudulent ballots have been discarded Joe Biden is still the winner,
it is over with.
By SrCums at 19,Nov,20 08:13 other posts of SrCums 
YOU SAY ALL LEGAL BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED. who are you to say there is no fraud when you are just someone on here that plays with your clit on a fake sex site. you have no access to legal process on this matter at all.. this is your ignorant stupidity.. Until you can speak straight up with me I'm done on this with you. meantime the process continues with valididy.

By SrCums at 19,Nov,20 08:19 other posts of SrCums 
By who's authority? To me your just a fake making wanker that never got laid pretending to be smart...Foxx News got it wrong. That's wny CNN's ratings although very low actually had higher ratings because everyone left that network...
My suggestion to you is when you jerk off so much to use more lube.. That fucking thing is bound to fall off..

By Strongmember# at 23,Nov,20 07:46 other posts of Strongmember# 
I'd take Trump out of those 3.. but you did nail it on the similar defining characteristic of the trio. They have all been charlatans with very effective persuasive methods for creating believers, not just followers.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 23,Nov,20 10:54 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
I have to apologise to @strongmember@. I just saw a response that was supposed to be in another thread. I've got to start reading my copy/paste entries.

By SrCums at 19,Nov,20 08:16 other posts of SrCums 
By #551147 at 19,Nov,20 09:36
By phart at 19,Nov,20 12:20 other posts of phart 
I had never heard of that office until suddenly Biden appeared on the tv with the logo behind him.I guess he is so "ready" to get to work he created it?
By #551147 at 19,Nov,20 17:02
Hell if I know, don't ask me!

That's why I'm in search of that mythical place...

By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Nov,20 08:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Shouldn't that flag be at half mast?
No matter if you believe Trump or not, your democracy is going through a rough time.
Not really your proudest moment.
By #551147 at 20,Nov,20 09:25
I don't know about that half mast part.

But I'll certainly agree with the rest of your drivel, for once. Where the disagreement will come in, is as to who's to blame. 😠

For now, I'm not interested in pursuing the finger pointing.
You'll say and I'll say, they will be opposites, blah blah blah.

I'll be content with the agreement for a change.

By phart at 20,Nov,20 11:03 other posts of phart 
If you read down this thread I ask about that.Our country is in deep distress and no one seems to give 1 flying damn about it. JOe says he wants to unite,while his followers burn and loot.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Nov,20 17:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your right, it's not only your democracy that has a problem.

However, either the democrats committed the worst crime against democracy ever or you have a president who made all of it up, with the intention to have his base steal the election for him. This is democracy at the level of Ukraine.

By SrCums at 20,Nov,20 18:35 other posts of SrCums 
I have nothing to do with it. I voted responsibly. I'm a proud American that stands for our constitution.. There is now evidence that the deep state created an algorithm in Michigan and Pennsylvania where Biden's vote was counted as 1.25 votes while trump only counted as 3/4 of a vote. EVEN WITH THAT Trump was up by 400000 in PA while 250000 in MI. Biden campaign realized it wasn't going to work especially after badly losing in Florida and Ohio.. Trump was cruising to victory and out of desperation they stopped the counting. During the night they flooded the polls with fake ballots including dead people, and people that voted in other states. The evidence IS THERE while the affidavits of witnesses testifying under oath with the threat of perjury are consistent with the accusations the lawyers are charging...The evidence continues to mount. They gave their opening statements before submitting to the courts.
I know what America Stands for which is FREEDOM, TRUTH, JUSTICE and the value of a SINGLE human being. The left is by law American but not by the heart.
Freedom is NOT FREE... It has to be earned. If there is truth in Europe you were fucked royally...England voted for brexit but they are not going quietly. If Trump wins your country wins. The deep state falls.

By SrCums at 20,Nov,20 19:55 other posts of SrCums 
Democracy has never been achieved. Its the limit which in logical form is infinity but so is God..The motto of New York State is "Ever Upward" Meaning the desire to reach God through Unity. Hence the United States. As long as humans have egoism and selfishness democracy is never achieved. Yes Trump is rich and he was establishment that took advange of legal tax codes when he was a citizen..Now his true goal is to find God. You can't say he wants money because he already has it! Power is a no go because he already has the highest power in the world. When he promised to enhance our national sovereignty I was sold and voted for the first time. He has not disappointed me since then. He's trying. Imagine, he is doing all these things while the deep state has impeached him twice while of Russian collusion of which he was innocent. Anyone else would have quit. He promised to protect the only free country in the middle east, Israel. Europe let all the Muslims in your continent at the cost of your hard work.. I don't understand your analysis.
By Strongmember# at 21,Nov,20 17:31 other posts of Strongmember# 
True that democracy is still a work in progress working towards an ideal. I won't speak on the other member's behalf but it should be concerning to all of us if we discover the US election can be be cheated like this. Where do we go from here for next time?

Re: Trump, I think that is an optimistic description of his intentions. I believe one could also look at some pessimistic explanations for his behavior as well fairly easily. As for money, there is this phenomenon whereby many very wealthy people still seem to want to be more wealthy. As for power, he does hold the highest position, yes, but if he is not re-elected he gets downgraded which could be a reason to want that to not change. If his true goal is really just to find God I do not know. I see that evangelical Christians are a strong source of his support so it is difficult to say whether he is being sincere with his Christian talk or pandering to a key part of his electorate.
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Oh.. I forgot to include this question. If Trump holds the most power in the world then how could Deep State be more powerful if it exists. Or do you feel like it is a battle between the two most powerful people/entities, Trump and Deep State. It just seems unclear how Deep State let him into office but then sabotaged him and this time may have succeeded in getting him out. It is unclear to me who has the most power then.
By SrCums at 22,Nov,20 13:14 other posts of SrCums 
The deep state as you put it is the glabalist global regime that does own TV, Radio and social medias. Their job is to inflict as much propaganda as possible.. You haven't been listening to Guilliani and Sidney powel I bet.. This race is far from over and as a matter of fact it's over,,, but not the same result as you hoped.. January 20th 2021 12:01PM Donald Trump will be sworn in for his 2nd term of the United States.
By Strongmember# at 23,Nov,20 07:33 other posts of Strongmember# 
I have unfortunately listened to that duo making the circuit, making many allegations. Funny where Guilliani is in life. He used to be a controversial mayor that some say helped clean up Manhattan. I also remember going to raves at age 18 where people shouted 'Fuck Guilliani'.. probably for shutting down parties or something. There are actually many news outlets globally, many part of totally different companies, and while most have editorial pages, they are not all singular in voice, nor would that many have a rational financial reason to propagandize. Newscorp is different from NBC. Facebook stands alone. Many reputable newspapers from around the globe are available as well for reading. And clearly many people are hearing the allegations of fraud so the message is not lost. So far, however, it seems that while prolific with tongue slinging allegations from a bottomless well, the legal teams have not identified sufficient compelling evidence to cause any major turnabouts, and only won a few motions for recounts and such so far. So is the Deep State run by a powerful kabal? Did they pull the strings of Media to let Trump in, now he is on the outs?

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 17:26 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
What's the matter, Bella! you can't face me direct? Come on, bitch. Show yourself. Don't hide behind your other account, SKITTLES

By phart at 12,Nov,20 09:32 other posts of phart 
I am starting to wonder,since the democrats have stolen the election, if it would no longer be desecration to fly our flags upside down? I mean,shortly after his term starts,our country will be in danger of economic crash and lack of security because of defunding the police,lives will be in danger.

Flying a U.S. flag upside down
Displaying a U.S. flag upside down is "a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property". It can also be viewed as an act of desecration.
By #551147 at 12,Nov,20 15:34
This thread is on the way to being moot.

If it is proven and the dumbass is certified as the winner, they will get rid of the national anthem.

It IS racist afterall, or did you conveniently forget that...
By phart at 12,Nov,20 16:25 other posts of phart 
I intend to not pay any attention to the liberal bullshit.IF I hear another song played for the flag and I am expected to stand with my hand on my heart for it,I wont'.Star spangled banner is our anthem.
Not Kumbayah or teach the world to sing like obummer wanted.
By Strongmember# at 13,Nov,20 00:47 other posts of Strongmember# 
I respect your first amendment Sir.

By tecsan at 13,Nov,20 02:46 other posts of tecsan 
Tell me how the national anthem is racist...Make it good...༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# at 13,Nov,20 03:07 other posts of Strongmember# 
I think @scorps was being facetious

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 17:14 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.

By tecsan at 17,Nov,20 05:44 other posts of tecsan 
I just say go ahead and kneel before the flag during the National Anthem...If you hate our country that much I can point you you in the direction of the border...Doubt they would welcome you...Hell would cost me a others to to bring your ass back for prosecution...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Nov,20 07:24 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
For doing something that is lawful?

By tecsan at 31,Oct,20 01:30 other posts of tecsan 
My guess is that about half here agree with disgracing America...༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# at 01,Nov,20 01:56 other posts of Strongmember# 
Fair estimate. Seems people are set on there sides. I think I threw some words in earlier I cannot find anymore. I respectfully take the opposition view.
By tecsan at 02,Nov,20 00:40 other posts of tecsan 
What do you mean???༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# at 02,Nov,20 00:46 other posts of Strongmember# 
I mean nobody is changing their mind. I feel like athletes choosing to protest are exercising the power they have earned with their status to try to make changes in the world as they see fit. I think there has been an overfocus on the national anthem choice and arguing that is disrespectful to veterans. I do not think those people intended any disrespect for veterans, maybe some have family who are veterans. By being overly sensitive to the perceived offense, we miss what they wanted to tell us.
By tecsan at 02,Nov,20 22:34 other posts of tecsan 
They could simply stand and respect the country...However; they choose disrespect...They have one of the largest platforms in the world to protest...Why not doing an interview instead of self gratification...???༼☯﹏☯༽
By Strongmember# at 03,Nov,20 02:14 other posts of Strongmember# 
The kneel arguably got more attention. Our first amendment allows for this expression. It is one of the greatest things about America, the freedom to express oneself that way. All day every day people argue and complain about our government. If his rationale was to generate change.. it was in America.. the country the athletes are from.. love.. but have some grievances with.
By #551147 at 03,Nov,20 03:40

You don't go fucking announcing your divorce at your kids birthday party. It's supposed to be a fun time, a uniting moment, not a time for airing grievances or attempting to kill the mood OR ruin someone else's day. WTF!

Baseball, Football, Basketball, Soccer games are for the enjoyment of ALL. Not festivus platforms! That's not even taking the disrespect into account.

So, SURE, it maybe ok and protected under the constitution, but does that mean it should be excersised?

ESPECIALLY now, knowing evertime you do it, your just being a complete asshole by being divisive towards those that you know don't approve.

They remain disrespectful, ignorant, hateful, overpaid, spoiled little princesses, and I hope they go broke from their unwarranted actions.

🇺🇸 Keep AMERICA Great - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇲
By Strongmember# at 13,Nov,20 00:46 other posts of Strongmember# 
Had people reacted differently it would not have gone viral as disrespectful. I suppose this type of debate goes back to Vietnam era. I really like the movie Born on the Fourth of July. Probably Tom Cruise's best performance, he acted the part of a soldier navigating between both his patriotism and strong associated feelings, and his eventual desire to protest. It doesn't need to be so polar.

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By tecsan at 12,Nov,20 01:46 other posts of tecsan 
Kneel if you disrespect our Country and our Military currently serving...What a disgrace...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 12,Oct,20 23:11 other posts of tecsan 
Really opened my eyes when the browns QB said he would kneel...Now he can go join kaepernick...Scum he is...Use a large audience to get your ignorant point out there...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 15,Oct,20 09:51 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Ignorant? If the teachers union of some large city did that, no one would have thought about it. But because Kilpatrick is black, you let your Nig@rs are only good dead or enslaved feelings out
By tecsan at 17,Oct,20 02:30 other posts of tecsan 
I will be nice...Whom is Kilpatrick???I said Kaepernick...But the fact is he used the nfl platform for his own propaganda...And many do know his name because of it...Sad he is no longer associated with the nfl and hell nike even abandoned this propaganda crap...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Oct,20 08:21 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
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And if he had taken a knee for the problems Vets face with Veteran’s Affairs you’d be cheering.
By tecsan at 17,Oct,20 23:00 other posts of tecsan 
Not if he did it during the National Anthem...That is disgraceful...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 18,Oct,20 15:40 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Well, obviously it worked. You may, sorry, you don’t like it but they got their message across. They won
By #460385 at 18,Oct,20 17:50
Really. Who won?
By phart at 18,Oct,20 18:26 other posts of phart 
Good question,who won and what did they win?
Doesn't look to me like they occomplished a damn thing but take fans away from the sports.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 18,Oct,20 20:05 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, CC, get real. Denial doesn't work
By phart at 18,Oct,20 20:30 other posts of phart 
Denying what? No evidence to show anyone won anything.IF anything,they lost crediablity,and the sport is loosing fans-funds.
Now if you consider driving a wedge of division into the American public winning,perhaps you are right,as this shit has only divided people moreso.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 19,Oct,20 09:40 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Damn, phart is everything have to be spoon fed to you? Before the kneeling, there were the run of the mill demonstrations. The public was (still is) getting jaded. Ho hum one more demonstration. When they took a knee during the playing of the anthem, they created a huge reaction. Some pro, some against. Either way they brought the public to recognise that there's a lot of abuse of blacks by the police. That is a win for the BLM crowd.
Now tell me how this is horrible, disrespectful, unamerican and generally anti-poop. I know you will have some out of this world comment. Let's see.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 19,Oct,20 09:44 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
countryCouple54 "won or lost" may be the wrong words. How about they were able to bring their displeasure with rougue cops to the eyes of the public. Right or wrong they jarred the public's mental stagnation. YOU describe it any way you want. The message is out.
By #460385 at 19,Oct,20 09:51
When are they gonna put the word out there on their own people. This happened a couple weeks ago. Did it make it on the news, did BLM post it on their website. Fuck no they didn't.
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By TWOWARMTTS3 at 19,Oct,20 10:02 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
So what's your point? Does the other side (whatever that is)put out their fuck ups? For whatever reason, you are anti black. Ok. Now use your balls and stop hiding behind URLs and other things. You don't like them? Tell us why.
By #460385 at 19,Oct,20 10:18
Who are them?
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 19,Oct,20 10:57 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Blacks, latinos,police bashers.
By phart at 20,Oct,20 09:32 other posts of phart 
It is not nessasaryly the "people" that anyone hates,it is what they stand for and how they go about gettig it.
Presentation is alot of the problem.Take the problem to congress wearing a suit and tie and present it with ACCURATE numbers as to how many blacks are killed by police and how many of them were unarmed and so forth.
Burning a family bussiness to the ground is no way to present a problem.That bussiness employes people,that are now out of work. Burning a police car is not either.It may have been the very car that would respond to a break in at YOUR house the next day.Shooting 2 officers while in their car is not helping either.
That is taking money and lives and resources away that could be spent to actually fix the issue perhaps.
That is the real issue I have with BLM and all the alphabet groups. Their presentation of their problems and the numbers and "facts" they use.
And to further respond to what Country said,the alphabet groups need to fix their own damn house before they go trying to fix everyone else's.Problems start at home and instead of fixing them,they go out looking for someone else to blame.For BLM, whitey makes a good scape goat.Althouht "whitey" Lincoln freed their ancestors and "whiteys"even bought a country in Africa,Liberia, to send them back home and guess what, THEY DIDN"T WANT TO GO BACK. Gee,I wonder why? No lions chasing them,no hunting with spears, less flys hanging around,even then,the US was a better home for them and they knew it.
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By TWOWARMTTS3 at 20,Oct,20 09:46 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
You forget this country started with merchandise being destroyed.
Just because your house is falling down around you doesn't mean you don't want protection from fires.
By tecsan at 23,Oct,20 01:28 other posts of tecsan 
Who will protect your house from burglary when the police are defunded???༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 23,Oct,20 10:01 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
I'm 68 yrs old and my house has never been burgled. I'm not stupid to suggest police are not needed, but, why do we have to provide escorts to the dead? Why do we need to provide security at an NFL game? Why do thet need to serve eviction notices? And like these there are hundreds other things. You conviniently try to scare us off by saying "defunding" sugesting no police. Me thinks that after taking a dump you should use the toilet paper to wipe your mouth.
By tecsan at 24,Oct,20 02:18 other posts of tecsan 
Unlike a few others here, I respect your age and honesty hope you are doing well...I do not care what side you are on or myself for that matter...Do you think you and I are going to change anything...???As for your questions I think it is obvious with the exception of the first one which you need to explain a little more...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 30,Oct,20 01:46 other posts of tecsan 
Now where is that runt Kaepernick...No one wants to touch him...That should resonate a little do you not think...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 02,Nov,20 22:37 other posts of tecsan 
Not really, where in the hell is Kaepernick now???Many do not even know whom he is or how to spell his name like you...Why did nike abruptly stop his commercial???Lost revenue I bet...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 03,Nov,20 12:18 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
it doesn't matter. It's his movement that matters. And that, baby, is well established and a thorn in the establishment's side.

By tecsan at 20,Oct,20 02:33 other posts of tecsan 
No darling...I say it because he did it during the National Anthem...If he wanted to kneel for seconds before or after then ok...Never seen teachers in a protest kneeling before the American Flag while the National Anthem was being played...That would be the end of their career...They should set good examples...Not disgracing the Country and our Flag...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 20,Oct,20 09:00 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Missed the point, didn't you?

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 20,Oct,20 09:53 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
First, don't darling me. Second. The idea of disrespect to the anthem is just that, an idea. The majority of people may be outraged but, not only is it not against the law but I'll bet the Supreme Court would strike any laws trying to prevent it.
Get over it. You care more about a demonstration than the life of a man killed by the cops in a horrible way.
By phart at 20,Oct,20 12:24 other posts of phart 
Wrong.just wrong,Folks don't want others dieing by police violence if that is what it amounts to after a investigation. What we are sick of is people using the system to destroy our country.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 20,Oct,20 13:00 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
L.p. According to you. My city is still vibrant. Florida is still beautiful, the Statue of liberty is still standing and you are still spewing wild ideas

By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Oct,20 13:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"What we are sick of is people using the system to destroy our country."

Is your country so weak that it can't handle some 'disrespect to the flag'?
You country is ill and the people who are bending the knee just want to heal it.
They don't want to destroy the country, because it is the country they live in.
It is likely they want to destroy your idea of what the country should be, because
your idea's don't work for them.
By phart at 23,Oct,20 12:07 other posts of phart 
gee could it be the ideals that America was founded on don't work for them because they decided to be "different" so they could justify whineing all the time?
Get a job,go to work,and earn a wage,fufill your own needs and enjoy the fruits of your own labor and quit thinking you are owed something.YOU AINT owed a damn thing you didn't earn or pay into.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Oct,20 11:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Really? Is that what America was founded on?
Have you ever read the 'Declaration of Independence'?

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Unalienable Rights: rights that you don't have to do anything for, to earn them.

Why don't you educate yourself about these things. You really need it.

But what I really don't understand is why you want to live in a world like you are always defending. It's just survival of the fittest, dog eat dog. My vision is of a human civilization that has outgrown that.

By tecsan at 21,Oct,20 00:50 other posts of tecsan 
Sorry, was mainly talking about moral turpitude...Not the damn law...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 21,Oct,20 03:30 other posts of tecsan 
I resent that 'n' comment...Hell as I have told some here I have black nephews and cousins..Now where do you get off making that statement...Hell, you do not know me that well...༼☯﹏☯༽

By #551147 at 21,Oct,20 01:49
The point is being recieved too!

Did you hear about BLM supporter Michael Rhynes Jr. of Louisville?

Just another incident probably NO ONE has heard about...

While proudly wearing his shirt with Colin Kaepernick's stupid face on it, he walked into a bar called Bungalow Joe's, and opened fire killing three patrons in cold blood. All the while, grinning from ear to ear like only a sick twisted piece of animal shit could and would.


🇺🇸 Back The Blue - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By kebmo at 21,Oct,20 02:18 other posts of kebmo 
Scorps, Are you sure you've got your "facts" straight there? Can you post a legitimate news source of this? I've looked into your story because I never heard it.

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By tecsan at 24,Oct,20 02:46 other posts of tecsan 
Been to several HS football games in the past couple of years and have not seen one player take a knee during the National Anthem...Hell the kids even know it is wrong and disrespectful...༼☯﹏☯༽

By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 11:37
Want to be outraged and tearful? Go for it. I would suggest, however, that you read the Code. Have you ever worn a hat or shirt with a US flag on it? Have you ever seen an advertisement that uses the US flag in some way? Got a US flag duvet cover? ALL against the code.

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Or you could just fucking grow up.

PS. Patriotism is STILL the last refuge of the scoundrel.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 14:30 other posts of phart 
Where does it say anything about a hat?
It says it should not be used as wearing apparel.
That would mean to me that it is not shirt material as in the whole shirt being a flag..But a flag on the shirt in a patch is not apparel.
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 14:55
If you want to exclude hats from "apparel" and split any other hairs, be my guest.

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You do recognise the point I'm making, right?
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 15:16 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
We are talking about Phart. Nice guy but too many open spaces between the ears
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:05 other posts of phart 
It means you are not supposed to drape your body in the flag it's self or make clothing of the flag.
Read the bottom line.

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If having a flag on your shirt or hat is wrong,then go tell the Military,who wear it on both sides of their shirts.
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By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:13
You've still missed my point (by several miles), but never mind! How's things?

I'm toying with growing some licorice, on a small scale, as a medium term investment. Have you ever grown any? Got any tips?

PS. notice how I couldn't give a fuck about your flag? NOW do you see my point?
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:16 other posts of phart 
Of course you don't care for our flag, the country it flys over gave England a good ass whipping back in the 1700's and they lost their conqured land they intended to inslave to the people who actually did the conquering.
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3 to 4 years to get the root. But good for Menopause! Hope it won't be to late to help with yours! just funning
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:25
You think I give a shit that we lost a colony? Really? The UK is a shithole, run by degenerate assholes. We cling onto an importance, from Empire, that we don't warrant. Our flag is a mish mash and, sadly, represents the oppression of Nations within the UK by the English. We've followed the US into too many wars in the last 30 years and our main, post-war, redeeming feature is that we didn't follow you fuckers into Vietnam.

It's still just a piece of cloth, phart.

PS. stop claiming credit for something you had nothing to do with. YOU didn't fight the British. It's history - nothing more.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:34 other posts of phart 
It's history - nothing more.

AH thank you,now take that magic tidbit of knowledge and le'ts apply it to slavery,poverty,racism,etc.
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:44
Yes, let's!

Poverty and racism existed in the past, and they still do now!

There are more people who could be described as "slaves" now than at any other time in human history.

On the other hand: where you live used to be a bit of the British Empire and now isn't. SEE the fucking difference?
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:51 other posts of phart 
Yes,and where I live also used to be the land of some of my ancestors,the Cherokee Indians.Correction,most here were Catawba indians, I find their arrowheads sometimes to this day when I break new ground for a garden.

By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:26
Hmm, I'm undecided between seeds (cheap but take 3/4 year) or buying 2 year old plants. When I hit the menopause, I'll be sure to let you know!!

By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:06 other posts of phart 
A large space,with a big pink brain that was sadly shaken 15 years ago but not STIRRED

By tecsan at 23,Oct,20 03:01 other posts of tecsan 
Read about etiquette on the American flag...I admit some do violate it but many or most are liberals...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 20,Oct,20 02:26 other posts of tecsan 
Just kneel before your country and fellow Americans that fought in wars...If you feel it is right then disgrace yourself ...༼☯﹏☯༽

By cody8789 at 19,Oct,20 11:43 other posts of cody8789 
I kneel in church when I pray to God to win the lottery, maybe I should stand the next time I pray to him just thought I might lighten up the conversation
By tecsan at 19,Oct,20 23:05 other posts of tecsan 
Thanks, but I brought that idea up and was denounced quickly...༼☯﹏☯༽

By phart at 14,Oct,20 13:39 other posts of phart 
This is what I remembered and couldn't find the other day.
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By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Oct,20 14:16 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
So, phart you refuse to shit in your commode so it stays clean. Will you piss in a corner of the living room?
By phart at 14,Oct,20 15:18 other posts of phart 
I can't see the similarity.
I and many others, see a rich guy whining about income inequality when himself is living like a king.I didn't even hear of his name in the vote buying scheme in Florida for example. so other than making a ass of himself in front of alot of people,he has done nothing to deal with the actual cause.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Oct,20 15:29 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
But that means he has to be as poor as a church mouse for you to adnit there is inequality? Don't make it about him. It's about the people.
By phart at 14,Oct,20 17:13 other posts of phart 
Why aren't the PEOPLE that are poor doing the kneeling instead of the looting and burning?
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Oct,20 19:19 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Have you asked them? Did you go under the cop’s knee and asked them?
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phart how many poor people do you know?
By phart at 14,Oct,20 22:20 other posts of phart 
I know Floyd took a knee and it killed him.Sad event. That lead to alot of unnessasary violence and mayheim.
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By TWOWARMTTS3 at 15,Oct,20 09:45 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Floyd took a knee the wrong way
By tecsan at 18,Oct,20 01:10 other posts of tecsan 
But why could he just not comply with officers and stay in the damn vehicle...I do know my comment does not justify his death and feel sorrow for his family...If I were one of the officers you would probably seen the asshole officer and me fighting...But still comply and take your argument before a judge, do not get judged on the streets...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 15,Oct,20 03:07 other posts of tecsan 
Any persons that do this are anti-American...This is disgraceful...Why would anyone feel that this is right???????????????????????????????????????༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 15,Oct,20 09:47 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Why would you feel this is wrong?

By licksipsuckit at 17,Oct,20 23:35 other posts of licksipsuckit 
welcome to the real world, its not America, its a piece of a small world. if you believe that everyone in America, loves the place, loves the flag and what it stands for, or believes the words in the anthem, well that's some utopian place, that doesn't exist. when you invite every nationality of the world to your piece of dirt, and expect them all to have the exact same values, then someone forget to send you the memo, on 'welcome to the real world'.. *lix*

By tecsan at 28,Sep,20 02:30 other posts of tecsan 
Just so glad that kaepernick is no longer in the NFL...༼☯﹏☯༽
By phart at 28,Sep,20 10:12 other posts of phart 
Yea but he did his damage there and now he can move along to something else and fuck it up.
By earthy at 28,Sep,20 16:37 other posts of earthy 
Yep and now the NFL not only supports him, they also support the blm scumbags.
By #551147 at 28,Sep,20 18:28
Nike is supporting both Kaepernick and BLM shitbags with even more CASH than the NFL could ever dream of. 🖕 Nike!
I burned all their trash like 3 years ago. 😉

🇺🇸 4 More Years - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By phart at 28,Sep,20 20:39 other posts of phart 
I was never into sports anyway and have not owned anything "nike" anyway.But now for sure I don't want any.There is quite a bit of evidence out there showing how the democrat party is linked to BLM.I have read some of it and for those that have google,it might help to read about it.
IF BLM didn't support violence,and riots and arson,they would be doing something about it themselves.It prompts hatred and disrespect from others and causes a lose of crediability to their cause.
To just say in a mousey voice " stop the violence" all the time crossing your fingers behind your back,does little to no good to fix the issue.

By tecsan at 28,Sep,20 21:09 other posts of tecsan 
I burned all the nike crap years ago when I saw them using kaepernick in their commercials...Nothing nike ever in my house again...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 at 28,Sep,20 21:28
Good man, me and mine either!

🇺🇸 Vote 4 The 2nd Amendment - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇲

By #188992 at 29,Sep,20 16:36
Hmmm, interesting about Nike. They're a pretty big, profitable, multinational right?

They employ analysts, and the like, to determine how to maximise their profits right?

So, they must believe that being "on the side of" BLM is good for business right?

So, can we assume that if they put off people like Scorps, phart, earthy et al they must think that is worth it, because MORE people approve of that support?

So, can we take some "good news" from this? Perhaps the narrow-minded, pro-gun, anti-BLM, pro-Trump, borderline racists are a minority?

PS. I KNOW it's a cheap shot and not wholly accurate, but is there SOME truth in what I'm saying?
By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:36 other posts of tecsan 
Can we not also assume that the snot nosed pencil pushers for nike are wrong...Which I bet if were asked they would love to take back the kaepernick ad...Otherwise I think we would have seen more of kaepernick in other ads and probably more on the same subject with others...Yet one ad and GONE...Snot nosed pencil pushers or shall I call the snot nosed kids analysts, were wrong...We all know that nike probably fired some over this...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #188992 at 30,Sep,20 06:06
Complete bollocks. If "we all know that Nike fired some over this" provide some evidence.

You can "bet" and "also assume" as much as you like, but that's just your opinion. I still contend that this was a commercial decision and will pay off, because most reasonable people can see that BLM (for all their, myriad, faults) are on the right side of the argument. Otherwise, a profit-grabbing multinational wouldn't have done it.
By tecsan at 09,Oct,20 02:04 other posts of tecsan 
I said probably, which is my opinion...That cannot be proven...But is probably true though or you would have seen the kaepernick ad more than one or two times and also many more ads...Nike got burned...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #188992 at 09,Oct,20 07:23
In other words: your, unsubstantiated, guess as to what might have happened? I can live with that.

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40%+ profit margins? If that's getting "burned" I'm pretty sure there are a lot of companies who would like that sort of scorching.
By tecsan at 09,Oct,20 22:12 other posts of tecsan 
Identify yourself or shut up...༼☯﹏☯༽

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 28,Sep,20 19:15 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Ok, earthy lets hear your reasons.....provable reasons why the BLM are scumbags.
By earthy at 29,Sep,20 01:12 other posts of earthy 
The reasons are clear and obvious. If you cant see it, like SO many others can, it's because you dont want to.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 29,Sep,20 07:30 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
If the reasons are clear and obvious then you shouldn't have any problem listing 2 or 3
Of course, if you are just repeating something you've heard....... Well then
By earthy at 29,Sep,20 20:44 other posts of earthy 
Murder, attempted murder, assault, ****, arson. Also blm founders are marxists, one of their goals is the desttruction of the American family structure. They talked all about it on the page they recently took down from the blm website.

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:06 other posts of tecsan 
Things I have seen ... I am not going to do the research for you, especially on creepy sleazy and sleepy uncle joe...Think you can handle that on your own...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:41 other posts of tecsan 
Your answer is adequate...If democrats want to know then let them do their on research...Why provide it??? They know...Just trying to stump the conservatives...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 11,Oct,20 00:20 other posts of tecsan 
Yes, you are so right...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 29,Sep,20 00:18 other posts of tecsan 
But it will be more difficult for his dumb ass now that all have seen the crap he has caused...He is an idiot an ruined nike (but that is their own fault not his)...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 29,Sep,20 07:35 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
tecsan it may be more difficult but I'm more interested in why is the BLM are scumbags. Their mission statement is:

Black Lives Matter (BLM) is a decentralized political and social movement advocating for non-violent civil disobedience in protest against incidents of police brutality and all racially motivated violence against black people.

Seems to me they are spot on on the crap that's going on. Only Trumkpies have perverted this organization
By phart at 29,Sep,20 12:16 other posts of phart 
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Just a quick googleing there,
The democrats EMBRACED BLM. So why aren't the Democrats doing more than whispering ,"stop the violence"? Eh? BEcause it is disrupting and divideing America.And that makes America easier to bring down.
Another thing,we know that Kamala was not very far from Portland a week or so ago campaigning on the "Climate change" claim about the terriable fires in California. Why didn't she take a quick plane ride up to Portland Oregon ask those folks to stop the violence and use the voting booth to make their voices heard?
And why hasn't Biden made a campaign stop in Portland? Theory,he already knows he has their vote?
Folks say actions speak louder than words.BUT our government,Congress and it's Pelosi's and Schumers,are more interested in Trumps taxes than doing anything to stop the violence in the streets that makes them and their party look terriable.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 29,Sep,20 12:35 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, you have some unusual theories

By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Sep,20 13:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure the democrats really want to bring America down.
Do you know that every Republican administration since Reagan has overseen a recession, while every Democratic administration since then has overseen a strong recovery and economic boom.
It looks like the exact opposite of your claim, doesn't it?

Do you really think that BLM would listen to Biden or Kamela? They also don't offer anything to reduce police violence.

It really wouldn't be that difficult to stop the violence in the streets. It just takes some good police reform, like independent investigation of deaths, holding the police accountable for unnecessary deaths, bodycams, no rehiring of bad cops, and refunding of tasks that should not be a burden on the police.

By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Sep,20 13:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
By the way, it's true climate change doesn't cause fires. It just causes prolonged periods of drought and heat. That just increases the chance of fires, makes them worse and makes it harder to put them out.
Just saying, because it looks like you don't understand that fact.
By phart at 29,Sep,20 15:18 other posts of phart 
Forest missmanagment is a major contributor to the fires.Clean up,and create fire breaks, and see a reduction in the future.
It's not the police violence that is a problem,the police are not burning down bussiness's and throwing bricks and rocks at each other.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Sep,20 15:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
All of that is also increasing fires, sure. So because of climate change, there is a choice between paying more for forest management or suffer more damage of forest fires.

So the police violence is OK. It's just the people that don't take it any more, that you have a problem with.
Actually the police has been just as or even more violent than the protesters.
No, they don't throw rocks, but they shoot rubber bullets and tear gas grenades, hit people with their baton, hit people to the ground and run people over with their cars.
By phart at 29,Sep,20 20:06 other posts of phart 
Sidewalks are for pedestrians,roads are for vehicals. it is not rocket science.
The people rioting would not get rubber bullets shot at them and such if they stayed home.
Criminals would not get shot if they obeyed the law.
Bad cops would only fuck up 1 time if things were done correctly. Vote people in office that support law and order,and the bad cops will be dealt with.Vote in abunch of dems and shit will keep going down hill.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 09,Oct,20 08:41 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Those forests are older than Moses. They see fires every year. The problem is people moved in

By tecsan at 11,Oct,20 02:58 other posts of tecsan 
Nicely put...Thanks...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:10 other posts of tecsan 
When the riots start, why does not anyone but the police try to stop it...Hell if I protest and agitators try to riot they will be asked to leave or I will personally call the police and cooperate totally with the police when they arrive...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 11,Oct,20 02:02 other posts of tecsan 
Now we have another popular player taking a knee and disrespecting the country and vets...Baker thought you would stop the nonsense...Keep using the national platform, most conservatives know what you are...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 22:48 other posts of tecsan 
BTW I have never seen an American President kneel during the national anthem...Why can they not find another time or place to protest...I will tell you, the NFL is one of the largest platforms to hold a stupid demonstration...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 at 01,Oct,20 01:27
They COULD stand, hand over heart, like most decent human beings, until the National Anthem is over.

THEN kneel for the made up racial injustice cause.

Whatta ya think?

🇺🇲 Keep AMERICA Great - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇲
By tecsan at 01,Oct,20 02:12 other posts of tecsan 
Now that is something that I agree with...Think they will also agree???༼☯﹏☯༽
--------------------------------------- added after 193 hours

Hell, what did I say..."Think they will also agree"...That was a crap statement on my behalf...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 at 09,Oct,20 09:05
Lol I overlook most petty shit like that. 😉

🇺🇸 Classify B.L.M. as a Terrorist Organization 🇺🇸

By #188992 at 09,Oct,20 10:06
Yeah, why don't they protest in a dark cupboard at home?

Numbnuts - one of the points of a protest is to be visible and to bring attention to your cause. Who the fuck do you, and Scorps, think you are to proscribe the form of protest taken?

By tecsan at 09,Oct,20 03:32 other posts of tecsan 
Using a very popular stage to protest during the national anthem and before our flag is very COWARDLY...Propaganda at the most...༼☯﹏☯༽

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 10:25 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
If you drive in the southeast you'll see many figurines of a soldier taking a knee for a fallen buddy. Taking a knee for a fallen buddy is an act of supreme honor. Taking a knee during the national anthem in an NFL game is to honor those fallen by police brutality. Only Trump and his supporters would put a totally different spin on it. It's because of Trump's hatred of blacks and other minorities. It's because YOU agree with that hatred. This country was born of civil disobidience. Tecsan, if you feel bad about it, I do too. I feel bad about you.
By tecsan at 16,Sep,20 02:32 other posts of tecsan 
Look above and read your statement...Wow, nothing more needed...That speaks for itself...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 29,Sep,20 00:31 other posts of tecsan 
If one feels bad and wants to take a knee to honor the dead or the fallen, (but do not wake up in the morning and decide I hate X and am going to kneel during the anthem) there are Churches...Go kneel before God or even Christ...But not the anthem which is supposed to honor the fallen and not disgrace them by kneeling...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 29,Sep,20 08:15 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Why should your wants and needs be considered more important? If you don't like the knee, why don't you go to church and pray for the end of the world? Obviously, taking a knee is legal.

By #621142 at 29,Sep,20 09:46
Taking a knee to honor the dead and fallen is exactly why they're taking a knee during the anthem dipshit.
By phart at 29,Sep,20 12:13 other posts of phart 
A question,isn't getting on your knees associated with PRAYING to or for someone? You honestly think that Kaepernick is praying for the fallen? I doubt it.
By #621142 at 30,Sep,20 15:14
Only a fucking snowflake would see someone take a knee and think he's being offensive

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:56 other posts of tecsan 
Great for them dipshit...Tell them to go to church or do it when the national anthem is not playing...You know it is just for publicity...If they really cared they would do it in private...YOU know that is true dipshit...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #621142 at 30,Sep,20 15:16
Oh I didn't know kneeling was only to be done in churches and in private. No one ever kneels at coronations or funerals or weddings or knighting or before a king and his high court or before a flag or a grave or...
By tecsan at 04,Oct,20 01:06 other posts of tecsan 
F___ kings and any of his BS...That is called a ruler...Most funerals or weddings I have attended were held in a church...Before a flag or a grave, well there usually are not 60000 plus people watching in person and usually is not on national TV...Be a little boring don't you think...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:11 other posts of tecsan 
Read the first two lines and stopped...I call BS...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 09,Oct,20 00:22 other posts of tecsan 
Like I have told another here...I have cousins that are black and I love them...I have never been racist nor will I ever...But disrespecting the country and flag during the national anthem is a damn disgrace and you know it...They have a large audience and so they abuse it...Does not take a genius to figure that out...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 06,Oct,20 05:12 other posts of tecsan 
Advertise more for the NFL and take a knee...Cowards...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 06,Oct,20 05:00 other posts of tecsan 
Just a disgrace and dishonor to our country...Wow, there really are those out there that think it is ok to steal an audience for their beliefs...Incredible the way the world is turning out to be...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 04,Oct,20 01:11 other posts of tecsan 
Yes, I know, but how much longer will it be before another goofy notion gets in the liberals heads and they start pulling the figurines down and destroying them...Give it time...You cannot condemn all by the actions of a few...This is the same with all professions...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #188992 at 05,Oct,20 12:33
If it's figurines perhaps they can just pick them up and put them in their pockets? Fucking liberals, huh?
By tecsan at 06,Oct,20 02:29 other posts of tecsan 
Again, you knew what I meant...Try putting a statue in your pocket...༼☯﹏☯༽

By phart at 30,Sep,20 17:19 other posts of phart 
Ok,for the sake of discussion,what ELSE are the FootBall Kneelers doing for the cause of the week they are kneeling for besides makeing a side show?
Are the Kneelers donating their salarys to homesless shelters or hospitals?

OR could some of the supporters of the Kneelers be trying to buy votes in Florida right now? Um.
By #551147 at 01,Oct,20 01:51
No, they are actually donating to funds that pay bail for criminals. So that they can get out and do it all over again. One they recently paid for, a woman beater, left the police station, went back to her place and beat her to death this time.

Didn't hear about that on your evening news, did you?

🇺🇲 Back The Blue - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By tecsan at 01,Oct,20 02:05 other posts of tecsan 

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 01:00 other posts of tecsan 
The kneeling during the National Anthem during an NFL game is just a publicity stunt period, but it seems to be backfiring somewhat like the nike ad...༼☯﹏☯༽
By curvy8 at 30,Sep,20 05:58 other posts of curvy8 
If someone calls fallen soldiers suckers and losers, is that OK? Asking for a friend
By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 22:33 other posts of tecsan 
Just asking you another question...Does two wrongs make it right???༼☯﹏☯༽

By #551147 at 01,Oct,20 01:45
@ Curvy8,

That's been debunked by someone who was actually there and NOT a fan of Donald Trump. John Bolton said it was BULLSHIT! That along with the source being... "ANONYMOUS" Prove it, or you have NO proof. Anyone can say anything... smh

Maybe calling our troops "Stupid Bastards and Slow" to their face, is MORE appropriate?

only registered users can see external links ⬅️ SEE! That's how you put up or shut up!

🇺🇸 4 More Years - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:52 other posts of tecsan 
I am more outraged when someone posts that there are statues all over parts of the Country with soldiers kneeling for a fallen comrade... I will do the same, sorry if that offends anyone... But I will not take a knee for that same fallen comrade during the national anthem...I would have to stand proudly as would my 'friend' the fallen comrade...Bad analogy...༼☯﹏☯༽

By kebmo at 14,Sep,20 03:11 other posts of kebmo 
I would think that you should be absolutely outraged when your President and the veteran's Commander in Chief calls the veterans suckers and losers if peacefully protesting by kneeling during the National Anthem offends you.
Don't say that it didn't happen because even Fox News confirmed it so you KNOW it must be true!
I'm sure you're well aware that the "taking a knee" is not to disrespect the veterans but I won't waste my time telling you something that you already know but deny because it's convenient to your narrative.
Are you offended by HOW people exercise their First Amendment?
Your crocodile tears are an insult to my intelligence.
By Gntlmn at 14,Sep,20 04:05 other posts of Gntlmn 
Well said!

By #460385 at 14,Sep,20 12:18
only registered users can see external links added after 3 minutesThere's always 2 sides to every story. They have the right to kneel, for whatever reason. But I'm just trying peacefully to show you how it hurts people like me. And the disrespect a veteran feels.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 13:28 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
CC, in a respectful way because you feel this way, could you be shouldering a misguided view of those actions? My older brother was a radical hippy. He was totally against the Vietnam Nam war. To him, Nixon was a war criminal. My Dad, of course, supported his Commander in Chief.
When protesters started to burn the flag, he hated it. But, I remember him. I hate that they are doing that but, I fought so assholes like you could do that. But, I remember my brother more. People are dying. This war is wrong and I love you as much as always but I, too, have to serve.

By kebmo at 14,Sep,20 15:23 other posts of kebmo 
CountryCouple, they are NOT trying to disrespect veterans! You know it, I know it, the players know it, the fans know it and your president knows it.
Is it OK for your president to call veterans suckers and losers? No, of course not but are you going to vote for him?
Crocodile tears.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 16:57 other posts of phart 
Kembo, Having lies shoved down your throat does not mean you "Know" the lies,it just means you have had the lies shoved down your throat.
I know the veterans in my family and freinds that are veterans,have stop watching football and other sports all togther because of the shit and don't intend to pay it a lick of attention ever again as long as they play the race card along with football,racing,or whatever the sport may be.
By kebmo at 14,Sep,20 17:13 other posts of kebmo 
Phart do you KNOW that your president thinks that the veterans suckers and losers? Are you going to vote for him again?
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:23 other posts of phart 
I SURE AS FUCKK aint voting for BIDEN.
I still don't think Trump said it or meant it the way it is construded if he said it.
YOu have to realize the media is working 24-7 to bring Trump down.And with folks that don't even live in the US believeing it and spreading it like Parkay on their bread,it won't take long to work.
By kebmo at 14,Sep,20 17:39 other posts of kebmo 
Fox news even confirmed it so it must be true!!

You disagree with it so you call fake news. Weak Phart.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:49 other posts of phart 
Weak,but not proven false.There are only 2 people running for President that have a snow balls chance of winning.
Biden and Trump.No person with sound mind could vote for Biden. I was not a big fan of Trump when I voted for him in 2016.I knew he was a New York Yankee with a bad attitude.I didn't hire him for a fishing buddy,I hired him to fix America.
And he was doing a damn good job until China unleashed it's biologial weapon onto the earth.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 20:10 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
phart .No person with sound mind could vote for Biden...explain

By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 00:45

You just keep posting that BIG ASS lie.
People are seeing what you are, an ANTAGONIST! Not a very good one either, stick to cooking!

It's fucking FALSE! So said John Bolton (not a fan of the President) who YOU ALL clung onto every word he said weeks ago. NOW you want to ignore him, huh? 12 other people who was THERE ALSO said it was BULLSHIT!

They decided NOT TO GO because of WEATHER! Unno, the same kinda weather that killed Kobe Bryant!

Helicopter, bad weather... JEEZUS!

Lastly... An event that happened over TWO years ago JUST NOW coming to light, a "ANONYMOUS SOURCE", election year. ANYONE who believes this BULLSHIT needs their head examined. How'd that "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" work out for the phone call? 

Get a new line Mr. Antagonist! That ONE'S played out and DEBUNKED!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 Keep AMERICA Great 🇺🇸
By bella! at 15,Sep,20 00:56 other posts of bella! 
Gee, did the vulgar granny guide your "copy and paste" hand?
By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 01:00

No, I decided to post it as many times as he did that lie.

I don't mind a debate about an issue, but I am getting annoyed by those not from this country trying to spread hate. Continually fanning flames of division amongst us. For what? It's NOT productive whatsoever. We have enough problems with those internally, let alone an outsider further instigating, perpetuating lies and hatred.

So he HATES the guy, no surprise there! If you listen to some of these people, the President has done NOTHING right, EVER!

Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is OBVIOUSLY very real if you believe that.

By tecsan at 30,Sep,20 00:47 other posts of tecsan 
Fox news is not perfect...So some reporters just report what they hear...I honestly do not think any news is unbiased...And if you do you need to rethink that...But biden for pres is a joke...༼☯﹏☯༽

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 19:42 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, why not?

By tecsan at 25,Sep,20 03:50 other posts of tecsan 
I sure as hell agree with Phart here...༼☯﹏☯༽

By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 00:44

You just keep peddling and posting that lie.
People are seeing what you are, an ANTAGONIST! Not a very good one either, stick to cooking!

It's fucking FALSE! So said John Bolton (not a fan of the President) who YOU ALL clung onto every word he said weeks ago. NOW you want to ignore him, huh? 12 other people who was THERE ALSO said it was BULLSHIT!

They decided NOT TO GO because of WEATHER! Unno, the same kinda weather that killed Kobe Bryant!

Helicopter, bad weather... JEEZUS!

Lastly... An event that happened over TWO years ago JUST NOW coming to light, a "ANONYMOUS SOURCE", election year. ANYONE who believes this BULLSHIT needs their head examined. How'd that "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" work out for the phone call? 

Get a new line Mr. Antagonist! That ONE'S played out and DEBUNKED!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 Keep AMERICA Great 🇺🇸

By #607259 at 18,Sep,20 19:38
By phart at 19,Sep,20 09:03 other posts of phart 
By #607259 at 19,Sep,20 09:24
All people that follow dictator trump get your lips off his cock have a and chill out
By phart at 19,Sep,20 21:01 other posts of phart 
Uh,it seems you might want to follow your own advice on the have a smoke and chill out?
We somehow lived thru 8 years of Obummer,you can make it 8 years of Trump. Pucker up and chill
By #607259 at 19,Sep,20 22:42
Guess what racist trash like you isn’t going to win any more
By #551147 at 20,Sep,20 01:29
GREAT job Phart!

Looks to me as if you ran a delusional, dope using, lib, shit for brains, clean from the site. YOU caused a delicate lil ❄snowflake❄ to melt. Tsk tsk tsk You are SO bad mister! However will you live with yourself?

Again, GREAT job buddy!

🇺🇲 4 MORE YEARS - TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸

By phart at 20,Sep,20 11:52 other posts of phart 
Wow,so afraid someone might see who typed this you had to delete yourself. lol
OH I am sure it is still here under another name. I have not accomplished anything.
Come late January when I watch Donald J.Trump put his hand on the Bible again to be sworn into office for his second term,that is when snow flakes will melt.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 26,Sep,20 12:00 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart I'm more interested what you would do if that hand on the Bible is Biden's. Will you remember this post?
By phart at 26,Sep,20 21:58 other posts of phart 
Some of my neighbors and I discussed the possiablity of Biden winning and we are all looking at how to defend our homes and property from thugs since there would be little to no law. Most of the folks I was talking to will be removing their money from the banks and selling off stocks as soon as possiable if Biden wins as the economy will tank.
I wont melt,but I aint letting some no good disrespectful thug steal my food,money or anything else without a fight.And all the neighbors agree that I spoke with.There is even a new group meeting once a week and it is basically a community watch group.You have the members on speed dial and if there is a issue, dial and they come to help as law enforcement is already 15 minutes plus away as it is. Americans out in the rural areas are NOT going to give in to the liberal shit as easy as you would like them to.

By ANGEL1227! at 19,Sep,20 12:23 other posts of ANGEL1227! 
That's heavy Phart. Now, tell me, How does that translate into actual dollars. Oh, let's not forget, how is that working out now that sports are being played without live audiences?
By phart at 19,Sep,20 19:51 other posts of phart 
I have not paid sports any attention lately.Didn't pay it much mind before all this shit show started.
Fools and their money shall soon part is all I can say.

By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 00:44

You just keep posting and peddling that lie.
People are seeing what you are, an ANTAGONIST! Not a very good one either, stick to cooking!

It's fucking FALSE! So said John Bolton (not a fan of the President) who YOU ALL clung onto every word he said weeks ago. NOW you want to ignore him, huh? 12 other people who was THERE ALSO said it was BULLSHIT!

They decided NOT TO GO because of WEATHER! Unno, the same kinda weather that killed Kobe Bryant!

Helicopter, bad weather... JEEZUS!

Lastly... An event that happened over TWO years ago JUST NOW coming to light, a "ANONYMOUS SOURCE", election year. ANYONE who believes this BULLSHIT needs their head examined. How'd that "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" work out for the phone call? 

Get a new line Mr. Antagonist! That ONE'S played out and DEBUNKED!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 Keep AMERICA Great 🇺🇸

By bella! at 14,Sep,20 17:02 other posts of bella! 
I do no follow football so I was unaware that players were fined for "twerking in end zones" or taunting. In other sports, I was aware that being disrespectful to umpires and referees can get a player fined and suspended. Recently, a tennis player (?) was disqualified because his ball hit a line judge! WTF!? Why didn't the line judge just move? Anyway, what I'm getting at is that YES, I agree with freedom of speech, but I also agree with Ret. Col. Jeffrey Powers, the players that choose to express themselves by kneeling should have repercussions similar to or greater than the player that twerks, taunts, or is disrespectful to umpires, referees and line judges.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:11 other posts of phart 
Thank you

By #460385 at 14,Sep,20 17:39
Funny how that works Ms.
bella. You can go to the NFL football game, disrespect the American flag, tell the white guy sitting next to you you don't care about white lives, disrespect the veterans that fought for that flag and died for it. To watch a bunch of men throw football around and make millions of dollars claiming they're underprivileged. As they charge you $100 for that ticket to watch them play the game. These are all their rights at an NFL game. But you better not tell a referee that he sucks or do a victory dance in the end zone. Because then the communist NFL wants to suspend them and fine them. Why don't they have the same rights towards their employing body.
By bella! at 14,Sep,20 17:55 other posts of bella! 
I watched/listened to the YouTube video and was quite surprised that I was able to spot Drew Brees taking a knee.
By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 01:20
I've NEVER been a sports fan, but I was familiar with some of the noble things that Drew has done. What a disappointment to hear that he did that. Sad actually! He should have maintained his backbone from his initial statement. I thought he had a bit of intelligence, but to buy into a false narrative and then join in, is VERY disturbing.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 15,Sep,20 18:42 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
This is a little off the subject. I hear a lot that "A bunch of men throw a football around and make millions doing it while claiming they are underprivilaged."
I just like to point out that NO-ONE is forced to buy a ticket to an NFL game. Since if there's are no players there wouldn't be no game, what right do we have to criticize what they do on the field?

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 19:57 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
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This is the letter that retired coronel Jeffrey Powers wrote to the NFL COMMISSIONER. He too is entitled to his views however, he seems to have forgotten why his fellow soldiers gave up their lives. As a reminder, they did to protect the Constitution. I say the Coronel is deficient in his views. I wonder what he would have said if the players taking a knee were white.
By bella! at 16,Sep,20 21:28 other posts of bella! 
Yes, I was made aware of the letter that, then Ret. Col. Jeffrey Powers wrote at the beginning of the 2016 NFL season, because CountryCouple54 posted a similar, but better YouTube link 2 days ago, on September 14. If you noticed, I responded to their very post, my response is the one you are posting on, now.

I don't agree with your opinion that Ret. Col. Powers is "deficient" in his views. And based on the content of his letter to Commissioner Goodell, nothing about the color of the player was mentioned or inferred. Why try to put your spin on it, is it possible that you are cynical and prefer to "believe" in the worst in people?

Our country is facing the biggest crisis that I can recall in my lifetime. Remember Eldridge Cleaver? Yeah, the same Eldridge Cleaver that was active in the Black Panther Party. He said, "If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem." Don't be part of the problem, striking discord because you have your own agenda. Americans need to come together and work toward solutions.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 21:44 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
You have to be deaf and blind not to notice the color of the players. Old Aldridge was refering to black problems and blacks that were content not pushing back. I don't have my own agenda. My agenda is a public one. Its a call to decency to the people of this country. You may or may not subscribe to that common decency. You certainly don't sound like you do. It's more important to you to police behavior of the protesters than seeing if you can help change the atrocities happening in front of our eyes. It's true this country should unite, but, I will never unite with bigots and degenerates. You do as you like.

By tecsan at 14,Sep,20 23:25 other posts of tecsan 
Maybe I can understand half way what you are saying...But, just wish someone could explain it to my great grandfather whom had tears in his eyes when people kneeled before the American Flag...He does not understand the world as it is now...But kneeling before the flag is disrespect and everyone knows it...༼☯﹏☯༽
By kebmo at 14,Sep,20 23:50 other posts of kebmo 
Tecsan Well imagine how he would feel if he heard the PRESIDENT referring to him as a sucker and a loser as he fought for his county!!
By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 00:41
You just keep peddling that lie.
People are seeing what you are, an ANTAGONIST! Not a very good one either, stick to cooking!

It's fucking FALSE! So said John Bolton (not a fan of the President) who YOU ALL clung onto every word he said weeks ago. NOW you want to ignore him, huh? 12 other people who was THERE ALSO said it was BULLSHIT!

They decided NOT TO GO because of WEATHER! Unno, the same kinda weather that killed Kobe Bryant!

Helicopter, bad weather... JEEZUS!

Lastly... An event that happened over TWO years ago JUST NOW coming to light, a "ANONYMOUS SOURCE", election year. ANYONE who believes this BULLSHIT needs their head examined. How'd that "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" work out for the phone call?

Get a new line Mr. Antagonist! That ONE'S played out and DEBUNKED!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 Keep AMERICA Great 🇺🇸
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@ Kebmo,
By kebmo at 15,Sep,20 01:36 other posts of kebmo 
Yeah, you need to read my comments again Scorps. I didn't say a word about helicopters or weather in this entire thread.
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"Americans who died in war are losers and suckers"

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By #460385 at 15,Sep,20 20:04
Please show me the proof.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 20:16 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Come on, CountryCouple54 ,There were no recordings. It was a conversation that at least 4 people will attest to it.
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When President Donald Trump canceled a visit to the Aisne-Marne American Cemetery near Paris in 2018, he blamed rain for the last-minute decision, saying that “the helicopter couldn’t fly” and that the Secret Service wouldn’t drive him there. Neither claim was true.

Trump rejected the idea of the visit because he feared his hair would become disheveled in the rain, and because he did not believe it important to honor American war dead, according to four people with firsthand knowledge of the discussion that day. In a conversation with senior staff members on the morning of the scheduled visit, Trump said, “Why should I go to that cemetery? It’s filled with losers.” In a separate conversation on the same trip, Trump referred to the more than 1,800 marines who lost their lives at Belleau Wood as “suckers” for getting killed.
By #460385 at 17,Sep,20 08:01
Your giving me a link to "The Atlantic". A democratic news source run by Jeffrey Goldberg. Who endorsed Hillary Clinton in 2016. I could show you other media sources run by Republicans that says that story is bullshit.
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By TWOWARMTTS3 at 17,Sep,20 09:26 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
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he Atlantic is an American magazine and multi-platform publisher. It was founded in 1857 in Boston, Massachusetts, as The Atlantic Monthly, a literary and cultural commentary magazine that published leading writers' commentary on the abolition of slavery, education, and other major issues in contemporary political affairs. Its founders included Francis H. Underwood[3][4] and prominent writers Ralph Waldo Emerson, Oliver Wendell Holmes Sr., Henry Wadsworth Longfellow, Harriet Beecher Stowe, and John Greenleaf Whittier.[5][6] James Russell Lowell was its first editor.[7] It is known for publishing literary pieces by leading writers.

After experiencing financial hardship and undergoing several ownership changes in the late 20th century, the magazine was purchased by businessman David G. Bradley, who refashioned it as a general editorial magazine primarily aimed at a target audience of serious national readers and "thought leaders".[8] In 2010, The Atlantic posted its first profit in a decade.[9] In 2016 the periodical was named Magazine of the Year by the American Society of Magazine Editors.[10] In July 2017, Bradley sold a majority interest in the publication to Laurene Powell Jobs's Emerson Collective.[11][12][13]

Its website, TheAtlantic.com, provides daily coverage and analysis of breaking news, politics and international affairs, education, technology, health, science, and culture. The editor of the website is Adrienne LaFrance and The Atlantic's president is Bob Cohn.[citation needed]
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Ok, well and good, but, it doesn't say much about the character of this long respected institution, so, I googled Emerson Collective and got this

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Emerson Collective is a social change organization focused on education, immigration reform, the environment, media and journalism, and health. Founded by Laurene Powell Jobs, the LLC uses philanthropy, impact investing, advocacy, and community engagement as tools to spur change in the United States and abroad. Wikipedia
Founder: Laurene Powell

Yes, I do believe what these news sources are bringing me. They have a history of reporting the truth, unbiased. Any news organization will, most likely be owned by a liberal or conservative person. It's wrong to assume liberals will lie while conservatives tell the truth but, in all fairness, by all means list your news sources and lets put them under the microscope.

By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,20 10:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Here is an interesting article on media bias:
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By #551147 at 17,Sep,20 03:44
He ( Kebmo ), don't have any!


Fucking anonymous hearsay is all they/he has...

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I hadn't noticed the site DUNCE, known as ANGEL1227 had commented.

Let's break it down for the imbecile...

The "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" ⬅️ SEE THAT! It's SINGULAR! Claims Donald Trump said "blah blah blah". ONE (1) person said it, NOT 4!

Yet the DUNCE says: "according to four people with firsthand knowledge"

4 people with firsthand knowledge, BUT, no one knows their name(s) to validate the claim that once again happened 2 fucking years ago. It was such a travesty to FOUR people, they ALL waited for 2 years. UNFUCKINGBELIEVEABLE!

How many more dumbshits you suppose will come strolling along with this SAME idiotic argument? >smh

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 15,Sep,20 18:44 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Perhaps your grandfather never knew the true meaning of freedom. He's welcome to cry but those tears are not for the right REASON
By tecsan at 19,Sep,20 22:47 other posts of tecsan 
Guess not...He fought for the Country lost both legs and parts of his left hand...Ridiculed by well let us just say people when he came home...Is there anyone here willing to give up one leg for their Country...He was told he was fighting for his Country and the Flag that that represented the Country...You might be right the tears are probably just fake...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 22,Sep,20 08:56 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
tecsan obviously your Grandpa gave a lot for his country and flag. For that, we give him our sincerest thanks. Whatever pushed him to be there does not matter. Nor will any argument will change his mind on taking a knee. Would the maiming and killing of fellow citizens, some being vets, be ok with him? Should we lynch those people for disrespecting maimed vets? You tell me.

By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 00:42

You just keep posting that lie.
People are seeing what you are, an ANTAGONIST! Not a very good one either, stick to cooking!

It's fucking FALSE! So said John Bolton (not a fan of the President) who YOU ALL clung onto every word he said weeks ago. NOW you want to ignore him, huh? 12 other people who was THERE ALSO said it was BULLSHIT!

They decided NOT TO GO because of WEATHER! Unno, the same kinda weather that killed Kobe Bryant!

Helicopter, bad weather... JEEZUS!

Lastly... An event that happened over TWO years ago JUST NOW coming to light, a "ANONYMOUS SOURCE", election year. ANYONE who believes this BULLSHIT needs their head examined. How'd that "ANONYMOUS SOURCE" work out for the phone call? 

Get a new line Mr. Antagonist! That ONE'S played out and DEBUNKED!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 Keep AMERICA Great 🇺🇸

By tecsan at 18,Sep,20 20:54 other posts of tecsan 
Explain it to the veterans and see if they understand...The First Amendment is great, as long as it does not turn into violence...But taking a knee before the American Flag during the National Anthem is very disrespectful...Do not care if people exercise their First Amendment right if they can show some decency...If they feel the need to kneel then stay in the locker room until the National Anthem has stopped...What an easy solution...༼☯﹏☯༽
By ANGEL1227! at 19,Sep,20 12:27 other posts of ANGEL1227! 
Ok, let me get this right. You are suggesting that these demonstrators hide during the moment of demonstration? And then come out on to the field? what are you saying? Should they moon the public? Good move there tecsan
By tecsan at 19,Sep,20 23:49 other posts of tecsan 
No they did that by not coming onto the field...I just want them to find other ways to protest without disrespect and think everyone here knows what I mean...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 02:47 other posts of tecsan 
Why is the moment of demonstration always at the same time we honor our country and veterans...???Why do we have to disrespect approx. two mins to protest...Do it before or after or next week in public...Protests are public are they not, but no let us interrupt a good time for most to protest at a game many paid money to see...Not some damn protest...Do it publicly but not at the expense of others...༼☯﹏☯༽
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 26,Sep,20 12:14 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
At the expense of others? You protest TO THE PEOPLE that disrespected you. You, tecsan with your funny views about public protestations are the type of person that needs to see it. You, gallantly want to grant useless time to have this demonstrations. How noble. You really care about the downtrodden.

By SrCums at 19,Sep,20 12:11 other posts of SrCums 
That's true,, these are the fucks that end up being canadians.
By ANGEL1227! at 19,Sep,20 12:29 other posts of ANGEL1227! 
SrCums .....better than Israeli effluence.
By SrCums at 19,Sep,20 12:52 other posts of SrCums 
so you agree fuckface? Nobody has defeated Israel for 1000s of years... Not even shit drip fuck waads like you.. Nazi's are dead.. What makes you think you can win.. Iran is powerless.. What can you do besides just killing yourself?

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 29,Sep,20 10:10 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
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I'm leaving. My work is done 3

By tecsan at 25,Sep,20 22:33 other posts of tecsan 
Disrespect for the flag or our Country is not a protest...Call it what it looks like...༼☯﹏☯༽
By phart at 26,Sep,20 10:06 other posts of phart 
Instead of taking a knee,just burn the pay check

By dgraff at 14,Sep,20 04:30 other posts of dgraff 
It could be worse I’ve seen the Iraq’s burn our flags
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Now that is an outrage
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 10:04 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
To you, maybe, but to Iraqis it's the flag of an occupying foreign country. You would burn the Iraqi flag on a heart beat if you could.
By dgraff at 14,Sep,20 11:01 other posts of dgraff 
I might piss on an Iraqi flag but I don’t believe in burning flags or books it’s against my religious belief
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 13:12 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Even during the Vietnam Nam war?
By dgraff at 14,Sep,20 14:37 other posts of dgraff 
Hunny I was born in 1962 i only remember the tail end of that war
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 15:14 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 

By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:38 other posts of phart 
I was born in 67,but really didn't get to know my uncle for a long time after he got back from Nam in late 69 I think.
He couldn't sleep for the night mares and would wake up screaming,shaking,took him several years to put on some weight. having to watch his comrades shoot children with bombs tied to them to save him and others took it's toll.
By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 05:01 other posts of tecsan 
Kind of like I have said, if you were not there, then you have no right to judge those that were there...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 04:59 other posts of tecsan 
Love that...Agree with you... ༼☯﹏☯༽

By #551147 at 14,Sep,20 14:01
Oh DGraff,

It's surely an "outrage" if some foreigners choose to degrade, disrespect the symbol of our nation. At this point though, not much of a surprise anymore.

It's a completely different story and far more contentious coming from a fellow citizen. It's the internal haters of our country that will destroy us faster than any sand dune navigator.

BEWARE of the America hating lowlifes within, they are far worse and multiplying.

It reminds me of that old adage about "biting the hand that feeds you". Unno, the unthankful, ungrateful, unappreciative kind?

Here's a sample of some foreigners who love our Country...
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Only flag visible in the crowd, is ours!

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸
By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 02:37 other posts of tecsan 
Well said, especially the last line...༼☯﹏☯༽
By #551147 at 21,Sep,20 04:00
With the current and abrupt condition of our country, it reminds me of a few quotes from the past. The very past the nutjobs want to erase.

“A house divided against itself cannot stand.”

"United we stand, divided we fall"

"Shall we expect some transatlantic military giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow? Never! All the armies of Europe, Asia, and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the earth (our own excepted) in their military chest, with a Bonaparte for a commander, could not by force take a drink from the Ohio river or make a track on the Blue Ridge mountains in a trial of a thousand years. At what point then is the approach of danger to be expected? I answer. If it ever reach us it must spring up amongst us; it cannot come from abroad. If destruction be our lot we must ourselves be its author and finisher. As a nation of freemen we must live through all time or die by suicide."

Has that time come upon us?

🇺🇲 TRUMP 2020 🇺🇸

By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 04:51 other posts of tecsan 
I could understand in Iran, but Iraq???༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 04:57 other posts of tecsan 
According to the libs here...It is ok if the end justifies the means...So screw the tears if they do not belong to them...And forget the past, wow they do not want anyone to remember the civil war and the partisan sides there...༼☯﹏☯༽

By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 02:50 other posts of tecsan 
When I buy a ticket to a game, I expect to have a good time and not have to watch a damn bunch of protesters...You want to protest then sell tickets to it...Bet that will not generate much profit...༼☯﹏☯༽

By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:00 other posts of phart 
Kneeling for the flag to me means alot of things.Most of it is total disrespect for the country and everyone that has ever fought for it and perhaps even died for it.
1 thing it has done successfully.It has been yet another divideing tool of the left that is working quite well.
And division of any group means easier to conquer.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Sep,20 12:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Honoring the flag or the national anthem is not part of our upbringing or education. There's not a lot of Dutch people who care if you burn it, piss on it or take a shit on it.
In school we learn tolerance is the most important virtue of Dutch people. It is not necessarily true, but that is what most Dutch people are proud off.

Late in the previous millennium, there was a craze of skinheads with bomber-jacks wearing the Dutch flag. They were wearing it as a sign they hated all immigrants. They said they didn't wear it out of racism, but for nationalist pride. Still, they were not shy about their racism either. So, if all the racist fucks are wearing the Dutch flag on a bomber-jack and you do it too, it might just be a symbol for your fucking racism.

Since then, the Dutch flag has had a bad association with me. A few years ago, our government decided they wanted a Dutch flag in the plenary hall of the House of Representatives. I had mixed feelings about that. In 2018 they exchanged it for an even bigger one. I don't like it. I prefer being proud about my country, without any symbolism to show it.
By tecsan at 21,Sep,20 02:33 other posts of tecsan 
Well if that is the kind of country you want to believe in and live in then so be it...Symbolism is history, like it or not...But I do not think any country's flag should be disrespected...Just my opinion...༼☯﹏☯༽

By Jamie at 19,Sep,20 20:45 other posts of Jamie 
What if you have bad back and knees what to do?
By phart at 19,Sep,20 20:59 other posts of phart 
Put your hand over your heart and stand still for a minute or 2 until the pledge and anthem are done.do as I do,as i have those issues and others that you speak of,lean your self against something.No one will notice or if they do,they will notice you doing the best you can.
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By tecsan at 18,Sep,20 20:55 other posts of tecsan 
This is probably the best I have seen all year...༼☯﹏☯༽

By phart at 19,Sep,20 09:05 other posts of phart 
Um I like Gummy Bears,cause I aint got no teef.! Said the 88 year old Obama
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By phart at 17,Sep,20 11:58 other posts of phart 
1 thing is proven by this thread.No one's mind is going to be changed on this issue.
A person's life expericances shape who they are.And on something this deep in the core of a person,it would take more than mere words to change it.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 18,Sep,20 17:48 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
By phart at 19,Sep,20 09:04 other posts of phart 
And this has to do with what?
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 19,Sep,20 09:57 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
It has to do with my dislike of Bella!

By #607259 at 18,Sep,20 18:10
Actually we need to force people stand for it! Punishable by death if you don’t stand for it. Also change it to the Sieg Heil salute and recite "Heil, mein Führer!" “Heil, trump!”
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Sep,20 18:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Flags are so 2016. I have a better idea:
They need to get 10.000 people standing in a square of 100 by 100 people, each holding part of a picture of their dear leader, Donald J. Trump.

By Skittles at 18,Sep,20 16:29 other posts of Skittles 
Tecsan, you are a latte liberal at best. This is what your BLM pals do...

By phart at 15,Sep,20 11:47 other posts of phart 
with all the bullshit going on in the world I just spoke with the neighbor and he showed me a video of his 3 year old grand daughter. In DAYCARE she was taught the Pledge to the flag and she said it word for word at 3 years old!. From what I understand that day care is private owned and has been getting alot of donations because of the good they are doing for the kids. The kids go to kindegarten already counting and so forth as well.
By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Sep,20 12:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, you need to start indoctrination as young as possible.
By phart at 15,Sep,20 14:40 other posts of phart 
Just as liberals would apparently with their kids to make sure they kept the idea of Whirled Peas in the air.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Sep,20 11:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No kids in The Netherlands do ever need to pledge or stand up or show respect to, every morning or ever at all, to anything, not even to world peace.
There are no flags in the classroom. Maybe outside of some schools there might be a Dutch flag and some teacher would have the task to raise and lower it. No one is asked to show respect to that either.
That might result in less people ready to sacrifice themselves in war.
And yes, I'm absolutely sure that helps world peace.

By leopoldij at 15,Sep,20 16:41 other posts of leopoldij 
Kids shouldn't be indoctrinated in religious matters like this.
By phart at 15,Sep,20 18:07 other posts of phart 
Nor with BLM type matter either.
By #188992 at 15,Sep,20 18:10
phart Did you hear the recent bit of news about the kindergarten in California (for 2 to 4 year olds) that has "gender neutral" toilets?

You couldn't make this stuff up, the world's gone mad.
By phart at 15,Sep,20 21:10 other posts of phart 
Coming from the state of California,nothing surprises me.All we can do in the rest of the country is hope the shit don't get caught in the jet stream and spread.Stupidity is the REAL virus threat,and it spreads thru the air.
And don't tell me shit don't get all the way over here riding the jet stream,Mount Saint Helens smoke got this far to the east coast.
By #188992 at 16,Sep,20 15:56
Sorry dude. You know when I said "you couldn't make this stuff up", that's exactly what I did.

Just my sense of mischief, and to see what happens when you simply lie. As far as I know, not a single Californian kindergarten has done that.

If you get a chance watch "The Social Dilemma". I recently watched it on Netflix. Seriously making me think about ditching all my online presences (including this one).
By phart at 16,Sep,20 17:17 other posts of phart 
I didn't bother confirming it or whatever,As I said,nothing surprises me from there.
After reading this.
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I didn't make that up.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Sep,20 17:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
* * * * = p e d o
I totally agree with you on this. I don't understand it exactly, but it sounds fucked up.
Also they somehow think vaginal sex with a minor is somehow less bad than oral or anal. Does it also matter if who does what to whom? I don't think fucking a little girl is somehow better than sucking off a little boy. Does that have something to do with religion that vaginal sex is somehow better than oral or anal? It's both horrible, but it would involve more pain for the girl. Off-course fucking a boy is worst.

In any case, why be so specific about offenses like this. Comparing criminality for each specific case is a job for the judiciary.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 16,Sep,20 20:22 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, that is what PreK is suppossed to do

By #621142 at 14,Sep,20 10:11
Fuck off. That's not what it's about and you fucking know it. I'm sick of the fucking BLATANT fucking lies like this bullshit.
By #551147 at 14,Sep,20 13:08
You're right 4SkinShowoff,

It is "fucking BLATANT fucking lies" that Black people are being hunted for sport by whitey and or more specifically white cops. Or how about that "systemic racism", "fucking BLATANT fucking lie". There's a doozie!

You'd think if they wanted to use their prominence and platform for good (athletes). They'd encourage education, how to be a law abiding citizen, stay off drugs, OR if you simply MUST break the law and get caught, to simply COMPLY! Seems pretty fucking easy to me.

I won't even mention the biggest "fucking BLATANT fucking lie" know as B.L.M.

Once again, you are SO right, it's ALL "bullshit" and them athletes should "fuck off" for sure!
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By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Sep,20 13:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Tim Black on systemic racism:
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Who the hell is that guy!

How about Larry Elders take:
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Dr.Thomas Sowell's take:
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How about a FANTASTIC interview of Professor Carol Swain:
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By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Sep,20 04:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Just a video I saw about the subject.

Here is a video that explains systemic racism, so a five your old can understand it:
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I will watch your video's. Maybe I will comment one their arguments or maybe I will just discredit them by their identity, like you just did.
By #551147 at 15,Sep,20 05:11
Excuse you!

I didn't discredit anyone! I watched the whole video cause you apparently wanted someone to see it. I noticed no one else commented. I always have an open mind for change, I'm still unswayed. I merely asked who he was.

You can watch or not watch the gotdamned videos, that's your freedom. If you want to continue living in ignorant bliss, that's YOUR choice.

As far as your backhanded insult about a 5 year old being able to "understand it". Huxley999 presented that VERY same video, as "proof" of the continued existence of "systemic racism", a long time ago in Bella!'s Stuff. To which I posted a counter video
➡️ only registered users can see external links. He got busy with real life and NEVER got back to me. Nevertheless, my counter video can be understood by a 5 year old also, and even narrated by a white person like yours is.

🇺🇲 M.A.G.A 2020 🇺🇸
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Sep,20 11:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OK, it was a childish video.

Off-course, Ben Shapiro. He really does a good impersonation of an intelligent person. Sadly he's not.

That's me just discrediting him.

I was in for 30 seconds of his arguments and I've already found one of his usual sophism's. It was the Democrats who made the law that children can only go to schools in their own district. How is that disproving the argument of systemic racism? Democrats are at fault too, so it doesn't exist?

Sorry, no more time now. I hope to continue soon. Sometimes Ben has good arguments too, by accident and sheer volume. Not so far, however.

By #621142 at 16,Sep,20 06:06
You mean the fucking lie that they're kneeling to disrespect vettans and the flag when everyone fucking knwos that's a fucking lie?
Huge fucking lie and no one is fucking buying it.

The guy is trying to call attention to something important to him in a non violent and COMPLETELY RESPECTFUL way and y'all bitch about it like fucking melting fucking snowflakes. And then you wonder why they get louder and form groups like BLM.

The dude felt strongly enough about it that he put his job on the line and gave up his high paying job just like you fucking wanted and you still try to make it out like he's doing it to shit on our troops or some BULLSHIT like that.

Fuck off.

By phart at 14,Sep,20 14:26 other posts of phart 
Not trying to be a ass here but could you give me a trust worthy source of information to verify that the kneeling is actually for something besides disrespect? Not a website to 1 or 2 sports figures but perhaps the website of the founder of this bowel movement.

As for lies,the kneeler supporters lie thru their teeth as well.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 15:24 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, this is an article in The Sun. It’s English
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It tells how the original player tried not to be offensive. Remember that he lost over three years of his career.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 16:49 other posts of phart 
didn't take but a few words of that for me to understand enough.Apparently he didn't know
Amendment 14
Amendment 15
has covered alot of the ground needed for his quest,long before he was born.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 19:21 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Read those amendments again and this time use some heart
By phart at 14,Sep,20 20:22 other posts of phart 
no heart needed,but I guess it would be nice.
The plan was laid out.the resources laid out.how they were used or not used is the result we see now.

By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:01
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Lazy git! lol

Link has links to other links. Read the lot - treat yourself, you may even end the day better-educated than you started it!
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:25 other posts of phart 
I know when I went to school we were taught things that are no longer taught.1 thing was to stand up for the flag during the Pledge and during the time the National Anthem was played.The fact these younger folks were not taught this,or were busy smoking in the bathroom is just a sign of a lousy education system and lack of parenting.
They need school,but better school.
And where is that picture that I think Scorps posted of Kapernickle as a cheerleader?

By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Sep,20 05:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Off course their is some disrespect to it. But it is the least disrespectful pose you can make, if you want to show that sometimes the US doesn't deserve complete admiration and respect, during the national anthem.
They didn't turn their back to it, pulled their pants down, just left during it, shouted "Black lives matter!" or hold up banners. They deliberately choose something with patriotic history.

You are fucking mad about the least offensive protest they could make.

You only care about freedom of speech, when it concerns your speech.
By phart at 15,Sep,20 11:45 other posts of phart 
That is not freedom of speach.They are not saying anything. Speach is spoken word.
By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Sep,20 12:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's considered "symbolic speech" and is also protected by the First Amendment.
Even burning the flag is protected under the First Amendment. This was decided by the Supreme Court:
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It is spelled 'speech' and not 'speach'.
By phart at 15,Sep,20 21:13 other posts of phart 
"You are fucking mad about the least offensive protest they could make. "

No no,that is not the least offensive protest they can make.They can give up their "jobs" and go home and not entertain the sheep that buy the tickets to the "game". That would be the least offensive protest they could make to me.Forfeit the high paying job,go live on the street or under a bridge.That would make a statement.That would be saying "we are with you all the way,Here we are with you now,let's rise up together and make better lives for ourselves"
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Sep,20 07:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh sure, that would help.
A protest should be something that people talk about. They certainly achieved that result.

A poll found that 52 percent of Americans answered yes to the question, “Is it OK for NFL players to kneel during the national anthem to protest police killings of African Americans?” The poll found 36 percent of Americans answered no and the rest were not sure.

Seeing your proposal, they will never get any respect from you or the other 36%. This has been a successful protest, because it is not meant for you.

And they sure as hell have risen up together, to fight for a better life.

By #621142 at 16,Sep,20 06:08
Can you show me a trustworthy source of information to verify that kneeling has ever been anything but respect for the last thousand years. (Knights kneeling, subjects before the crown, kneeling to pray, kneeling to show respect)

Kneeling isn't fucking disrespectful and fuking everyone knows it.
By #188992 at 16,Sep,20 15:49
This might help:

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By phart at 15,Sep,20 21:08 other posts of phart 
Am I the only 1 that remembers when the kneeling for the anthem started it was because of income inequality?Now the list is a mile long of why they do it.Whatever happens to be hot on the news that particular day.

By leopoldij at 15,Sep,20 16:40 other posts of leopoldij 
Incidentally, 1/3 of women killed by police in the US are black.
Black women represent 10% of the population.

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That's very primitive. Police in other countries don't kill their own citizens.

By Gntlmn at 15,Sep,20 00:21 other posts of Gntlmn 
Keep drinking Putin's-bitch's diarrhea, shitbag.

By phart at 14,Sep,20 14:23 other posts of phart 
Well the overpaid spoiled brats can kneel if they want to.They just as well squat and take a shit as their kneeling means about the same to me.
I don't pay for the tickets to their "games" anyway and don't have much if any respect for 99% of the "players".
Atheletes are given to much attention anyway.They are just paid way to much money for something totaly non productive and of no value to the people or the country.
Now if they were putting that much effort into building houses for the poor,or something similar perhaps I would think a bit more positive of them.
But to many people,idiots, will work for 10 bucks and hour,and pay 30 dollars for a hat with a sports teams name on it that the players wouldn't shit on them to put out a fire.
Nascar is taking it's self down the same sewer line as football.
By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 15:04 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
And you missed the whole point to the story.

By TWOWARMTTS3 at 14,Sep,20 15:28 other posts of TWOWARMTTS3 
Phart, non productive? Every team brings millions upon millions in tax and other money’s to get he city they represent. Just on employment alone they generate millions. Get educated or shut the fuck up.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 16:52 other posts of phart 
Oh wow, ok,so you are going to play that card. It didn't matter to YOU that the city of Charlotte lost millions because of the democrat whineing about the virus might spread at the RNC.
But to mention something about the over paid ball players bringing in money,oh,that is just a wonderful thing.The Carolina Panthers, you know the team named after the black Panthers,a version or near equivelant of the KKK.A BLACK Panther is even their team mascot,how much more racist can you get? NFL for ending racism,ha yea right.
Another case of double standard from the democrat side.
I don't ask you to shut up and violate your freedom of speach so don't ask me to shut up.
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:10
Alt fact phart?

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Here's a hint: if you're posting something and think "Sounds a bit unlikely, where did I hear that?", check your fucking sources!!

The irony of Yanks bleating about how a certain sector of society is overpaid is fucking priceless? Are you fuckers in favour of Capitalism or not? The market decides!!

If anybody can, rationally, explain why the US flag is treated with such reverence I would be delighted!

Like my Dutch friend I could care less if someone decided to burn a Union Jack, or take a shit on it. What IS IT with your flag that makes you so offended when someone fucks with it in some way?

Not being deliberately provocative but, to the rest of the world, this flag worship seems fucking childish.
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:13 other posts of phart 
I guess no one fought and perhaps died for your "freedom" under your countrys flag?
Do you have equal disrespect for the military of your country that ALSO flys the flag of the country they fight for?
As for "yanks" talking about how much people are paid,sports figures get paid STUPID money for playing a sport.While people like police,get paid peanuts and get SHOT AT.How many times do foot ball players get shot at while on the field?
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:37
I'm a pacifist phart. If there was a "just" war I would be troubled, but probably be a stretcher bearer at a push. I might even go to jail, as an absolutist, to avoid supporting a war in anyway. I would urge my kids, if I had any, and my niece and nephew to avoid serving in the military. Killing another human being is an aberration. I even think, for all you believers out there, that there's a commandment that fucking tells you that!

Ever wonder why so many vets are homeless or addicts, or suffer from PTSD? It's not fucking rocket science!!!

How many Americans do you think have died fighting for "freedom", since 1946? I think it's fucking tragic that so many of your countrymen have died for stupid reasons. If you can convince me otherwise, go for it.

Capitalism is WHY they get paid that much. Are you for or against Capitalism and letting the market decide? It's a pretty simple question!
By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:43 other posts of phart 
It may be why,but it aint a good thing.
I have no doubts we shoulda stayed out of alot of the wars we went into. But I was not born at a time to prevent anyone from going to Nam or elsewhere.In 91-2 I was kinda skeered I might get drafted into war with Iraq.Basically a army for hire,Kuwait would not even give the military fuel!. Which had anyone had any sense,ground troops would never have been put down in the middle east.We have BOMBS and DRONES that should have blown those countrys slap off the map if they continue to breed the hatred that hurt the US on 9-11
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 17:53
Very gently nudging you to some understanding ....

Maybe if you HAD stayed out of "alot of the wars we went into" you would not have bred "the hatred that hurt the US on 9-11".

You're NUMBER ONE - in Military Spending, and not much else.

Korea - draw.
Vietnam - loss.
Places with oil in the Middle East - win (but caused a shitload of trouble)
Afghanistan - stalemate, followed by withdrawal
Somalia - withdrew
Libya - left a fucking nightmare
Grenada (and other tiny places) - total win

So you spend all this money, are hated, and have a mediocre military record. Maybe try a different approach? Think of all the aid you could have given out, in an effort to be "loved" and have influence, if you had halved your military budget. Stupid liberal nonsense?

What do you think phart?
By phart at 14,Sep,20 18:02 other posts of phart 
Libya,was a night mare long before we got there
To much of our military budget is spent playing world police. Loss's,because they shoulda used BOMBS instead of people.
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 18:09
No, Libya was a bogeyman that was fabricated to distract you from the fact that the biggest threat to Western values is your fucking buddies in Saudi Arabia and their spread of Wahhabism. Google where the 9/11 pilots and their accomplices were from.

Gaddafi was a braggart, but no real threat.

People like CC54 were sent to Afghanistan on a false premise. Bin Laden was probably already in Pakistan and most of the terrorists were Saudi. So, yeah, makes great sense to send GIs to Helmand! If your default position is "My Country, right or wrong" you will make poor judgements forever. Go ahead, but I'll look at my own Nation with the same cynicism as I look at yours.

I agree with what you say about being the world's police. Can you now see why some "foreigners" might fucking hate Yanks and want to burn your flag?

By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:46 other posts of phart 
yea right on that explanation.IF you believe that,I have some beach front property in North Dakota I will sell you CHEAP.
By #188992 at 14,Sep,20 18:30
I'm watching the last bit of "We Were Soldiers". Have you seen it? If so, what message do you take from that film?
By phart at 14,Sep,20 20:20 other posts of phart 
haven't watched it ,so don't have any idea.
A freind of mine actually lives 2 doors down from where 1 of the 9-11 terrorist pilots lived.He came to the US,married a 350 pound woman he met by internet and then went along with his plot. The afternoon of the attack,there was agents with all kinds of letters on their jackets runnin in and out of that house.My friend said you would have never known he was a terrorist.He went out each morning to get the mail and paper,would wave hello if he saw ye.Scary really to think they could blend so well.

By phart at 14,Sep,20 20:16 other posts of phart 
Here is the kind of shit the folks rioting and looting and such for BLM really support deep down in their gut.
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I hope the man that shot these 2 officers has a "accident" that will serve justice..

By phart at 14,Sep,20 17:32 other posts of phart 
systemic racism
A artificial concocted problem that has been used to pass blame for 1's failures in life because of bad lifestyle choices,on to someone else who does not even know the person with the concocted problem and has nothing to do with it or them or a possiable solution.

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