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King once warned in a sermon (as early as 1954), also recorded in his book, "Strength to Love," that, "If Americans permit thought-control, business-control and freedom-control to continue, we shall surely move within the shadows of fascism."
You know,it won't be long before people will be crowding the streets wanting MLK statues and such removed because he spoke more truth then they can handle.
That's right-wing propaganda, to make you a willing serf for the wealthy.
If the people don't control business, than business will control the people.
Than you don't have any freedom.
"The evils of capitalism are as real as the evils of militarism and evils of racism."
MLK, March 30, 1967
NewsMax is just an outrage machine, telling you lies, to stir up your anger and hate against 'other' people, shifting away the responsibility for the US turning into a kleptocracy, from their wealthy owners, so suckers like you keep voting for the party that is mostly responsible for providing that kleptocracy for the wealthy.
The days of a election with candidates like Eisenhower that had credibility are gone
Newsmax completely makes up 'facts' and puts a complete spin on everything else. They lie about 80% of the time. The 'liberal' media is at least presenting real facts, 80% of the time. They put some spin on it, to appease their owners and advertisers, but it's not as dishonest as the right-wing media. You just think right-wing media is more honest, because they tell you the same propaganda, you have been indoctrinated with your whole life. Familiar lies sound more honest.
It's you, who thinks commercial media is preferable over publicly owned media.
They are ALL lying to you or not telling the truth. You acknowledge that yourself.
Are you ready to change your opinion on commercial media already?
A shock, I understand, what would that look like?
Maybe it would give you politicians who actually represent the people?
But, I've seen politicians up close, that came very close.
They don't answer a question, with something the asker wants to hear,
they answer clearly and directly, according to their principles.
And when they ever make a mistake, they admit that fully and openly,
telling you where they made the mistake, why they made that mistake
and how they are going to fix it.
That's when you know they are working for you and not for themselves.
In The Netherlands, I only see that in the Socialist Party. Every other party,
to the right of them, is obfuscating, twisting, embellishing and concealing.
Meanwhile our right-wing prime minister is a very smooth liar.
He has even introduced new terminology with his lying. He often says:
"I have no active memory of that.", so you can't get him, if it turns out he knew.
Other politicians started to use that too. And people like managers of companies in trouble, getting caught for sketchy shit and getting interrogated by journalists.
And he has an old Nokia phone, with a tiny memory, so he can delete every message that he doesn't want the public to know about, while he has the obligation to share or record everything. 'Plausible deniability', 100%.
I even enjoy seeing him use it so brilliantly. He's really a master at it.
It's just horrible that it's acceptable for a representative of the people.
"Lying is for the weak-minded. If you can't think of a truthful way to solve your problems, you're not thinking hard enough.” — Robin Brande
BTW, please tell your party to keep it up. 2024 is looking really good.
Unfortunately you have a poor judge of character, if you think that's Trump.
He has been a lying, stealing, cheating, conning, scumbag, all his life.
How could you believe he would have been different as president?
Trump is just so experienced in lying, that it sounds like the truth,
especially if you like those lies and you have no skeptical reasoning skills.
Your economy flourished during the plandemic, while most floundered.
"He has no leadership ability. We are lucky due to the greatness of the state dispite having an asshole governor and biden, wanna be. All he does is gets us involved in lawsuits . You want him? What a laugh."
You can have our governor, has stood in the way of voter id TWICE after it was on 2 Ballets and the voters of the state approved it.
On December 16, 2022, the North Carolina Supreme Court ruled in the Holmes v. Moore case that Senate Bill 824, the 2018 legislation implementing voter ID, violates the state constitution’s equal protection clause. This means that voters are not required to show photo ID in elections in North Carolina. Please check back for any updates.
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And folks of all colors think they have it rough today.
This fellow WAS a slave,not a descendant of 1.
So he had alot more hurdles to over come than blacks of today.
Well,Um, guess who the lady actually was that invented it?
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"Gladys Mae Brown was born in rural Virginia, where her parents owned a small farm in an area populated mostly by sharecroppers. "
Imagine the hurdles a sharecroppers daughter had to overcome to get where she went? Again, a much tougher path to success than blacks have today.
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Trivia
With Apologies to Jesse Jackson attracted little media attention, with the NAACP praising it and calling it a "good example of educating the public on the power of hate words (including the n-word) and their impact on individuals".
I saw nothing that educated me,except more evidence that no one is satisfied with anything done.
I am glad most are NOT US citizens.
WANTED to be dragged for petes sake,
So her life must not mean much to her
Even animals' lives.
John Karl Fetterman is an American politician who has served as the 34th lieutenant governor of Pennsylvania since 2019. A member of the Democratic Party, he previously served as mayor of Braddock from 2006 to 2019. Fetterman is the Democratic nominee for the 2022 United States Senate election in Pennsylvania.
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I will admit the fetterbum libturds won. Now what does that say about PA?
but when a normal guy is running for office to help poor people,
he is a 'thug', because he doesn't wear a suit, like all those
corrupt, fakes politicians, you pretend to hate, but actually really like.
His 'goofy left wing agenda' is helping the working class.
Anything that Republicans do is only helping the rich get richer.
You voted for Trump, the biggest selfish useless loser in the world,
who just took a business from his daddy and than let crooked lawyers run it.
Trump never worked a day in his life, not even as the president.
The only talent he has is scamming dumb-asses like you
and acting like a businessman on a stupid TV program.
Trump just wanted to be president, to be worshiped by suckers like you,
to get credits from wealthy people for cutting their taxes and to take money
from the Saudis. Calling him 'bum' is too kind. He's an imposter and a traitor.
Uh fill me in here, who does the working class work for?
Don't they usually work for a company, that has wealthy investors?
And if it is no longer profitable the jobs go away?
A mechanic, a postman and a factory worker used to be able to provide for his family. Why can't they do that anymore or much less?
If your brain says 'socialism', then what socialism has that mechanic, postman or factory worker gained, since 1950? Did they gain more time off, more sick days, more affordable healthcare, a shorter workweek, a safer working environment, better dismissal protection, worker participation, more affordable housing, cheaper education for their kids, better pensions or something else that I have forgotten? Or have they been screwed on all or most of those things?
How has it benefited the working class, that multi-billionaires, increasingly own more wealth, businesses, homes and land and gained more power every decade?
No matter how wealthy those investors get, they will not raise wages for their employees or give them more time off or paid sick leave or improve worker safety. That's what is important to the working class.
It is already more profitable to outsource jobs. Do you think Americans can compete with Chinese workers or Bangladeshi workers? The way you prevent those jobs going away is regulate the corporations, not pay American workers Bangladeshi wages.
John Fetterman improved the lives of the poor in Braddock massively.
Not by sucking up to corporations, but by bottom-up economic advancements.
He didn't just talk about grassroots movements, he did it and it worked.
There is more to a job that doing it and getting a check. There is retirement insurance ,and etc. Some just look at the paycheck and don't look any further.
That has not resulted in any improvement of worker benefits, only more profits for the executives and share holders. Employers are not making enough money to get stock options themselves and if they have retirement plans with stock options, the companies are also allowed to take all the profits of that system and fuck over the employees too. In other words; trickle down economy is a lie.
Insurance benefits organized by employers are just another control mechanism to suppress the power of employees. It allows the employers leverage over any negotiation and makes it harder for employees to find other jobs.
As for wanting to earn a higher wage?
You want the employer to pay you more? Make yourself invaluable to the company,invest in your education and use your talents to increase the companys profits.It brings about promotions and pay increases and company perks like company cars and such.
People need to quit expecting their warm body in the work place is enough alone for them to make a living wage,they need to provide something WORTH MORE than a living wage that the employer will be willing to pay for. I can see why alot of companys have gone overseas .Lack of work ethic.
" fuck the boss, lets' just make 8".
is the attitude of the average worker now.Sad. Hunger and getting wet in the rain would be deserved of those types.
Than everyone 'buys' healthcare together.
Becoming invaluable to your employer is an individual effort, for competing with other employees. It doesn't guarantee against exploitation, at worst it makes the best employee the most favored slave.
People should expect fair treatment. And since most people are employees, they would have the worker power and political power to prevent companies from going overseas, if they are smart enough to prevent a minority of wealthy employers from buying politics, to allow them to exploit even poorer people. The combined power of 330 million consumers is enough to force companies to produce in their country. The problem is that those 330 million consumers are shortsighted and selfish. They prefer to buy their products a big cheaper, over thinking about keeping their own economy alive, which provides them all income, to buy anything at all. They became that shortsighted by consuming propaganda from right-wing media, payed for by those companies, that can make more profits, by encouraging people's selfishness.
Republicans only exist to serve themselves by serving the wealthy.
Democrats sometimes do little things for normal people, just because their voters are less convinced that people only deserve what billionaires allow them to have.
Every socialist wants more equality of wealth and income
and force the wealthy to pay higher taxes and higher wages.
And you think socialists are serving the wealthy?
You have no idea what socialism really is.
The wealthy are the winners in capitalism.
Socialists wants an alternative for capitalism.
The winners in capitalism don't want that.
I am more and more active in the socialist party.
I meet lots of people who are doing well for themselves,
because they are smart people. But none of them are wealthy,
because wealth requires exploitation and socialists are against exploitation.
Trump is the son of a billionaire, who never had to do a day of real work,
scammed his family out of their inheritance and only managed to retain some of the wealth of his father by scammed his customers, everyone who ever worked for him and everyone who ever trusted him.
You only think he's normal, because he's almost just as dumb as you.
That's his only talent; scamming people who are even dumber than him.
Trump is a 'thug', no matter if he wears a suit or not, because other people are worthless to him, unless they praise him or fill his pockets. He demands absolute loyalty and offers nothing in return.
If you think Democratic politicians hate him, you are wrong. Their live is easy now.
Their voters believe they have no other choice than politicians who are a little bit
less selfish and abusive than Trump. They know the other pimp hits harder.
I think you hate Fetterman this much, because you know he's different.
He provides an alternative to all the people with Stockholm syndrome.
because Americans know they are fucked by both parties.
The reason why socialist values always lose is because the people
keep giving power to the wealthy, who have the only goal of
becoming even more wealthy, by exploiting and extorting the people.
If people like you keep helping them, normal people will keep losing.
"look at your Country" is not an argument.
First of all, my country is the 5th happiest country in the world and the US is only 16th, with horrible poverty, lots of homeless, 2 mass shootings per day, the highest incarceration rate in the world and a failed, highly corrupt, democracy.
Second; even though we have more 'socialism', The Netherlands is a very capitalist country and not socialist by a long shot.
Third; the number one happiest country in the world is Finland, which is also a capitalist country, but with the most social services of all countries in the world.
That's socialism winning.
without enriching themselves, by doing the bidding of the rich and fuck over people.
Those are worth their salary and I would recommend supporting them.
It's a short list though. However, often voting for 'new' is not voting for 'better'.
And their are lots of one term politicians, who fill their pockets as fast as they can, because they understand that the voters should kick them out. Kick them hard.
with the best intentions on the best available information.
Everyone thinks their intentions and actions are at least justifiable.
Politicians often justify their corruption by thinking 'I'm just playing the game!' or 'Am I not allowed to better myself?'. It's up to the voters to show them that their job is being public servants and representatives. If they are not representing our interests, we should vote for politicians who represent our interests better.
Democrats are crap, that's true. Republicans are evil.
I would choose crap over evil. Only stupid people don't.
Talk with some Russians and Germans about that idea.
You vote to let your country be controlled by selfish wealthy white guys,
who became wealthy by exploiting people or by sucking up to wealthy people who exploit people. What you then get is you being exploited.
I vote for socialists, who take the fight to the horrible neoliberal capitalists, who become wealthy over the backs of working people.
I vote for a party that stands for human dignity, equality and solidarity.
If the socialists party benefits me (an upper-middle-class working guy) most, then why wouldn't it benefit you as well? Are you wealthy?
Maybe you understand that your vote for republicans only hurt you
and you do understand that only the wealthy benefit from your vote.
In my country, most people are tired of the neoliberal policies that brought only problems. Our right-wing prime minister is being forced to do many 'socialist' things, like paying up to 30 billion to maximize the energy costs of families. Most people blame the privatization of the energy companies on the high energy prices. The socialist party is not winning yet, but their ideas are rapidly gaining ground.
And what do you get when you vote for Republicans?
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Do you want someone in government that can fall for scams?
Passing a $1.2 trillion bipartisan infrastructure package?
The $1.9 trillion COVID relief deal?
Providing free COVID vaccines to everyone who wanted them?
Biden's decision to withdraw US troops from Afghanistan?
The One-time Federal Student Loan Debt Relief?
The steps to overhaul U.S. policy on marijuana?
Halt on Federal Executions?
Commitment to Combating Climate Change?
Reducing unemployment?
The Inflation Reduction Act?
The commitment that the US will stand by Ukraine as it defends its democracy?
Lowering the deficit by $1.4 trillion, the largest one-year drop in American history?
Be specific or you just sound like you don't know what you are talking about.
And then explain how Democrats caused the specific damage or why you disagree.
Because this post is about friendly ARGUMENTS. Baseless claims are not arguments.
2 peas in a pod.
1 by no fault of his own,
the other just born a racist sumbitch that got Alzheimer's.
uncle festterbum is proof that voters can be gullible as children.
BAM BAM,
black lives don't seem to matter to themselves.
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(he has not caused), shows how horrible Republican candidates are, how horrible their ideas are and how popular progressive policies are.
Trump and Republicans are daily confessing to crimes openly on video
and in writing. It's not that investigators have trouble finding evidence,
they just have a hard time keeping up, with documenting it all.
That was just a lie, that they invented, to steal the election.
It could be the truth in the near future, but it would be the Republicans.
because they have noting else to offer but lies.
Democracy doesn't work for them anymore, so they will try to destroy it.
very dangerous.
A dictionary printed in 1920 should be the same as 1 printed today.
changing the meaning of vaccine for example,was STUPID.
But just as the Swastika was stolen by hitler and used for evil, words are being stolen and defined to fit another narrative that has nothing to do it's true meaning.
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The term 'liberal' used to stand for the people who wrote the constitution.
Right-wingers turned 'liberal' into describing Stalin or Fidel Castro.
I don't know how, but that seems logical to the right-wing mind.
Communism used to describe "eliminating socioeconomic class struggles by creating a classless society in which everyone shares the benefits of labor and the state controls all property and wealth", but right-wingers turned the meaning into "any regulation trying to control complete crony-capitalism, only by a little bit".
But, I look forward to examples of the words that liberals changed the meaning of.
'Gay' as a word seems to be changing as early as 1890 and was first introduced as slang for homosexual in the Oxford English Dictionary in 1951, after being used in that way for 30 years. That's even before you were born. Any more recent examples?
It takes 2 to make a woman pregnant. And the baby is 50% of the father and 50% of the mother.
The mother carry's, while the father should be supporting .Again, the rolls and responsibility's are 50-50
Women have several type s of protection available to them cheap or free with insurance. Cheaper for insurance to pay for a pill or a shot than to have to cover a abortion or pregnancy.
The two most common reasons were "having a baby would dramatically change my life" and "I can't afford a baby now" (cited by 74% and 73%, respectively. A large proportion of women cited relationship problems or a desire to avoid single motherhood (48%). Nearly four in 10 indicated that they had completed their childbearing, and almost one-third said they were not ready to have a child. Women also cited possible problems affecting the health of the fetus or concerns about their own health (13% and 12%, respectively).
It's not always possible to involve the man, but, the last word belongs to the woman
Birth control doesn’t work 100% of the time. And experts say that abortion is largely not — and shouldn’t be — treated as a form of birth control. But it can fail. In Guttmacher surveys, half of US abortion patients reported that they'd used contraception in the same month that they became pregnant.
How many men will abstain when they got to second base? How many men will pull out b4 ejaculation (precum can inpregnate)? How many men will carry condoms or agree to use them? It's always the woman's fault, right? So, why, then, shouldn't it be her CHOICE?
That is real world.
Watch our premiums go up yet again because of the last hurricane in florida for example.
As for the 2 reasons,"having a baby would dramatically change my life" and "I can't afford a baby now"
Where was all the concern about a baby changing their life or causing financial hardship when their legs were in the air???
Zippers,buy pants with them and keep them closed, no abortion-murder needed.
Zippers, yeah, that's what men zip down the minute they see a skirt.
" A baby changing their life or causing financial hardship" Have you thought how difficult it is to raise a baby alone and without financial help? How do you work?
Murder needs a victim. There's no victim in the first 12-15 weeks.
Parting your legs is your right perhaps, but no one or no law or rule or book indicates the abuse of that right does not come with consequences.
All men are not guilty of being irresponsible. Women are fully capable of lying thru their teeth about using the pill or getting the shot to a man just to hook him or get revenge or to spite his girlfriend to or just have fun.Don't sit there and try to tell me women are innocent. this is 2020,and women are capable of being as evil and conniving as any man
There's no right or wrong how much sex you enjoy unless you are a tight ass from the 50's. It's not abuse, it's life. If you think it's abuse, then don't contribute to it. Go have a Penectomy.
I never suggested all men are guilty of being irresponsible, just the men who abandon a pregnant woman to face single motherhood. Pregnancy is not easy and comes with many life changing problems that is very hard to overcome when two people do it together. Not having a partner doesn't make it twice as hard, it makes it TEN times as hard. One out of four women have an abortion sometime during their lives. That translates into 42 million women. Are you saying most of those women are irresponsible harlots? You are saying mostWomen are not innocent. They are not stupid either. Giving into a man just to hook him or get revenge or to spite his girlfriend to or just have fun sounds like an Emily Bronte novel. Tell me, when you see a pregnant woman, do you say to yourself, "There goes an American PUTA"?
I can understand the disapproval towards abortion. You, I can only define as a woman hater.
And I don't hate those that do not,I hate what they are doing and it's negative affects on society as a whole.
How can a man be there for a woman if he doesn't know she is pregnant? like from 1 of those 1 night stand hookups at the drunk bar? Women go there to get picked up,men go there to pick up. not much other purpose for them other than to get away from a abusive spouse perhaps.
I had to go into those places on mondays after the weekend and the smell was AWFUL. FILTH that had to be vacuamed and scrubbed up.And we are talking a popular hangout for rich people to drink beer and eat steaks. horricable smells and nasty carpeting, but somehow it got cleaned up enough before friday night the dim lights hid the rest.
I prefer a nice quite booth in the rear of a restaurant where I can hear myself think and not be bothered. I usually make it a point not to do business where alcohol is even sold.
But it is getting difficult now to function without that shit being in my face while i am trying to eat.
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HOW BIDEN'S BIGGEST WINS COMPARE
• American Rescue Plan Act. This coronavirus and economic relief bill, passed by a party-line vote, provided direct stimulus checks, extended unemployment insurance, temporarily expanded the child tax credit and provided aid to states and localities.
• Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act. This bipartisan law invests in water, energy and broadband infrastructure.
• Inflation Reduction Act. This law, passed by a party-line vote, includes provisions that allow Medicare to negotiate drug prices, extend Affordable Care Act subsidies, address climate change and impose higher taxes on the largest corporations.
• Chips and Science Act. This bipartisan measure offers support for domestic semiconductor manufacturing, research and development.
• Bipartisan Safer Communities Act. Passed in the wake of mass shootings in Buffalo, New York, and Uvalde, Texas, this law expands background checks for people younger than 21; increases funding for mental health services; closes the "boyfriend loophole" for firearm purchases by those who have been convicted of domestic violence; and offers funding for states to implement firearms confiscation laws for those determined by a court to be a significant danger to themselves or others.
OTHER LEGISLATION SIGNED BY BIDEN
More quietly, Biden has signed an array of bills that passed with significant bipartisan backing.
• Sgt. 1st Class Heath Robinson Honoring Our Promise to Address Comprehensive Toxics, or PACT, Act. Widens veterans’ health benefits for those who experienced harmful environmental exposures during military service, including hazardous waste burn pits.
• Reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act, which had lapsed, and two bills addressing sex abuse.
• National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2022, which included a pay increase for service members.
• COVID-19 Hate Crimes Act, which addresses attacks on Asian Americans partly by increasing access to the reporting of hate crimes and expediting the review of hate crimes related to COVID-19.
• Postal Service Reform Act, which repeals a pre-funding requirement for postal retirement benefits that had been a financial albatross.
• Ocean Shipping Reform Act, which funds increased oversight of international ocean carriers.
• Several bills levying sanctions, including the Ending Importation of Russian Oil Act; the Suspending Normal Trade Relations with Russia and Belarus Act, and a ban on imports from the region of China where the Chinese government is widely believed to be repressing the Uyghur ethnic minority.
• Emmett Till Antilynching Act, which makes lynching a federal hate crime.
• Juneteenth National Independence Day Act, designating a federal holiday for Juneteenth, marking the emancipation of enslaved African Americans on June 19 every year.
• State and Local Government Cybersecurity Act of 2021, requiring the Department of Homeland Security to bolster collaboration with state, local, tribal and territorial governments on cybersecurity.
• Several bills on crime and policing, including the Public Safety Officer Support Act of 2022, the Homicide Victims’ Families’ Rights Act of 2021, the Capitol Police Emergency Assistance Act of 2021 and the Supreme Court Police Parity Act of 2022.
The Senate also approved a treaty backed by the Biden administration to phase out certain chemicals used in refrigeration that are considered a risk for climate change.
OTHER BIDEN POLICIES THAT DIDN'T DEPEND ON LEGISLATION
As president, Biden has also enacted policies by executive action, without Congress. Here are some of the bigger ones:
Get COVID-19 under control. While the coronavirus is still killing nearly 400 Americans a day, deaths and hospitalizations have been largely steady at today’s level since April 2022, which is far below previous peaks of 2,000 to 3,000 deaths per day.
Establish new fuel economy standards. The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency has set new fuel efficiency standards for vehicles, mandating higher targets for new cars and light trucks for model years 2023 to 2026.
Rejoin the Paris climate agreement. The United States rejoined the Paris Agreement, pledging to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by at least 50% from where they were in 2005 by the year 2030.
By the way, I don't know where you've been, but, Trump served only one term and lost to Biden when he ran for a second term (regardless of his lies or Trumpsters dumb assertions). He won't have a chance to run again until 2024 and, as far as I am concerned, never. We'll see about that"red wave".
until we teach respect to those we have entrusted to enforce those laws."
NOT the last.
Bad behavior comes from going to school and not being disciplined after doing wrong.
A couple wacks on the ass of a 10 year old will usually be enough to take away that desire to steal or fail to respect the teacher or etc.
NOTE I DID NOT SAY BEAT the chi1d, I said a couple wacks with the paddle. When I was in school, the simple fact you were taken out in the hall and paddled embarrassed you, it made you feel small ,and you didn't want to feel that way again, so you didn't do whatever it was that got you paddled again. Simple deterrent.
Do conservatives want law enforcers to despise people?
It would explain a lot.
I read Ananas'es quote and find it to be true. If the powers that be can't respect the people they are sworn to protect, then, it can't be expected that they would receive their respect. And before you get your tail feathers all rilled up, you know there are bad actors in the law enforcement units throughout this country.
We need them, and we need them to do the job.But we need people smart enough not to leave a cuffed suspect in a police car parked on a railroad track to.
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BUT actually ,as citizens we should demand that our government hire intelligent people to do the job that have common sense and reasoning capability's ABOVE those of the criminals so they can do a better job of PREVENTING crime and SOLVEING crime. you know the job we as the citizens expect of them?
"gee, let's chase this woman in her pickup truck until she finally stops, then I will park my car on the rail road track and cuff and stuff her in it to be killed by a train for showing a gun to another driver."
"gee ,this guy keeps whining he can't breath while sitting in a air conditioned police car, let me drag him out and put my knee on his neck to help him out?"
You know as well as I do there are some dems that don't work as you would like to see them do.
And there are some repubs that are fruit loops to like that 1 that got voted off that was on the jan 6 thing.
My experience BEFORE biden and that for the country was better.
So for me,based on my experience, the repubs are the lesser of the 2 evils.
Most law-abiding citizens just don't want the risk of being killed by police to creep up to the same risk level of being killed by a mass shooter.
At least you are allowed to protect yourself against a mass shooter, you can't protect yourself against a fascist pig cop. Even being white is failing against them now.
Fuck off cunt!
his loss,not mine,
White lives matter shirt,
the officer's leg with the car door. The guy only just survived the bullet wounds.
What is your assessment of this situation? Is this police violence warranted?
Note how the police is spinning the reports about the incident.
Full body cam footage is played in the video.
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But you have to bare in mind,without cops our world would be worse than the wild west.
BUT with cops, we can always be placed on a rail road track.
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Just because she displayed a gun at someone who did something to endanger her on the hwy.
But escape? For what? The police officer had no reason to stop him.
Cops should have a reason to bother people. The only reason he had was that the teenager was in a red car and a red car was used in a crime at some other time.
Do you want to be a suspect, just for the color of car you are driving?
The only reason to shoot should be clear and immediate danger.
How many completely innocent bystanders are killed by cops,
because their bullets go everywhere?
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I have to admit,lately it gets confusing. We need law enforcement, but it seems some just love to kill in excess.
You might want to watch this,
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1 documentary I am still looking for, explains the feds forced the friend to help them trap bonnie and Clyde on the road.
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A gps trackable truck, loaded with packages ,max speed of about 65 mph, lousy fuel mileage. But yet, instead of just letting it run out of fuel on the road side, they had to trap it and make a flour sifter out of it. Some video even shows cops shielding themselves behind cars containing civilains, therefore drawing fire to innocent people.
I don't know the outcome,hopefully some justice will be had
to me, there is not much difference between these 2 incidents. Both were unnecessary use of violence.
It is like the cops just took some dope and got high or something and couldn't turn loose of the trigger.
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If you want equality, then all applicants for a job should be considered.
good question? where is blm?
They demand checks and balance on the police.
That doesn't apply to mass shooters.
What you are doing is similar to whining why a climate change action group
is not reacting to a case of animal cruelty. It's not their purpose.
Instead of just meandering about the name Black Lives Matters all the time,
you might try to actually understand the problem they are trying to address.
BLM is not an anti-gun protest group. But maybe they should expand their goals to include banning all guns, because the right to bear arms is not benefiting black people, but is causing the police to assume they are armed and kill them, instead of taking any risk.
Are you saying to hell with the blacks as long as they kill each other? that is what blm's actions amount to.
Do you understand that protest groups have a specific cause?
BLM was founded in 2013 in response to the acquittal of Trayvon Martin’s murderer (George Zimmerman).
Their mission is to eradicate white supremacy and build local power to intervene in violence inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.
Black on black crime is not white supremacy related.
It is therefore not part of their mission.
to keep (black) children out of crime.
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And the The National Urban League
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Our Mission:
To help African-Americans and others in underserved communities achieve their highest true social parity, economic self- reliance, power, and civil rights. The League promotes economic empowerment through education and job training, housing and community development, workforce development, entrepreneurship, health, and quality of life.
those groups exploit the hurt
What else can you call it,but terrorism?
This is 3rd world country shit,nothing that we should see in the US.
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Would this not make you afraid if that were your bussiness, you living, that was burning?
Copy and paste of the definition of terrorism.
Read it
noun: terrorism
the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims."
Now, who's buildings, cars, homes were destroyed? Mostly CIVILIANS property. Was the arson legal that destroyed those buildings? NO. so what other damn word can be used to describe the loss other than terrorism??
The Rosewood massacre was a racially motivated massacre of black people and the destruction of a black town that took place during the first week of January 1923 in rural Levy County, Florida, United States. At least six black people and two white people were killed, though eyewitness accounts suggested a higher death toll of 27 to 150. The town of Rosewood was destroyed in what contemporary news reports characterized as a race riot. Florida had an especially high number of lynchings of black men in the years before the massacre,[2] including a well-publicized incident in December 1922.[citation needed]
The unidentified suspect, who remains on the loose, is described as a Black man wearing a white T-shirt, black shorts and a black Oakland Raiders cap.
and people complain about the ratios of blacks vs whites in jail is to high.Well maby it is time to face the facts.
Because they don't learn from their mistakes.
Apparently to this black man, white lives don't matter.
Why the hypocrisy?
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you might try to actually understand the problem they are trying to address.
Black people voted for Biden a lot. They could have known he wouldn't do much.
He has been a 'tough on crime' Democrat his whole political career.
They should have voted for Bernie in the primaries.
this fucker stabs his girlfriend and leaves the baby laying beside her in it's mothers blood.
Sick fucker, feed his ass to the damn alligators.
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Until that message is read and understood by all, will we see any positive change in the world.
will we see any positive change in the world.
Why did you say MAGA then? MAKE America Great Again.
What is the MAKE part all about?
'MAKE' sounds like POSITIVE ACTION. We just differ on our opinion of positive.
Rights are being banned and schools are getting destroyed.
In my opinion, those are negative actions.
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So yea,we agree on our schools being ruined.
It's their future.
Republicans want to destroy public schools and replace them all with private schools. OK for children with parents that can afford it, but the rest get screwed.
It's an effort to keep the poor poor, make the rich richer and stay in control.
They are killing 'The American dream'. Maybe that speaks to you.
Simply stop taking taxes away from people that don't have kids . And instead of the taxes paid by parents going to a government coffer to be blown on worthless shit, let it pay tuition for a private school. Private schools are expensive in part because of the small classrooms you agree need to be had and also because of small school size . If school went totally private it would "create" jobs in new construction or private schools could buy and renovate the old public schools.
Teachers could make more money because they would not be dependent on tax payer dollars for salary. You can't get richer working for the folks paying your salary than they are..
Any sector with profit motives is minimizing the pay of the employees.
The government could just pay teachers better, because they value education.
Just like private healthcare is more expensive than publicly funded healthcare.
But everyone needs healthcare so with insurance at least everyone pays in.
Private education is more expensive for the users, because only they pay for it.
Public education is payed by everyone. We all benefit from it when children
get a quality education, because then they function better in society.
Research shows that for every dollar invested in high-quality early childhood education, society gains up to $7.30 in economic returns over the long term.
Care to explain the difference between Ultra MAGA and fascism?
Socialism sucks if you want the wealthy 1% to exploit the rest of the people.
To mention race as far as 1 life or another is racism.
IF all lives mattered, race would not be brought up by the black people.
You have freedom of speech. enjoy it.
Besides,if that high track Cat in your pics is how you earn your living,you don't anything to worry about.
plenty of people hiring and paying good money.
1 of my friends has been "working" for himself for over 20 years. made some good money but blew it all.
Hit bottom last winter, his truck broke down,his mother died,and etc.
He woke up 1 day,decided to clean his self up, and went and applied for a job as a track hoe operater.
within 7 days, he went from a unemployed ,down and out fellow to making 24 dollars a hour starting.And was willing to do over time,which is even MORE money, 3 months into that job and he is Loving it.
A racist is a person who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
I belong to a group that believes African Americans are treated like inferior people. That makes me a champion for equality of this ethnic group. For that I get marginalized by people that resent me for bringing up the subject of inequality. There are people who argue, treat me poorly, or even hate me. Those are racists. I didn’t re-define this group. I just pointed out that there’s more than one way to see racism at work. Far be it for me to shut down conversations about any subject, but, in particular, the love of my fellow man.
You are entitled to your views. If you believe supporting organizations like BLM does more harm than good, so be it. I find that that view is too narrow. Many people and a good amount of members, have taken umbrage on the fact that this is a group for African Americans. This is true, but, do you think, maybe, they should have start a group called “Caucasians for Negros? Bottom line, Twisted1975, you seem to be smart and educated, so, I don’t believe you don’t know what I was trying to convey to Phart, but, it sure stuck to your craw what I said to him. BTW, if someone gets offended by your beliefs, perhaps, then, you shouldn’t socialize with that person. It’s ok to disagree, it’s quite another to be offended by other people’s views.
anyway,
why is that folks don't want race to be a part of anything or miss use it?
hear me out. Blacks have had a rough row to hoe literally since they were brought here. BUT the past few decades things have really moved them up in the world.
So why can't the blacks be proud of their accomplishments' like a good education or a good job without taking anything away from others?
Why can't whites do the same, and other races of people?
We should not have to be sorry we are white, they should be sorry they are black, why can't we just all work towards something better? Instead of letting the media and politicians keep digging up the 60's?
The black people I know, are good folks ,hard working, educated. and proud of it. And you know ,they don't blame anyone else if a business venture fails, they regroup and start over. 3 black fellows I went to school with are business partners with 2 other black fellows and they live well. each 1 has a "department' they look over ,like transportation or warehousing materials ,buying land. They buy a plot of land, grade it ,and build houses and sell them, turn key,all in house. no outsiders.They grew up poor like I did, but didn't blame anyone,they just went to work and built this big company.
Do I have to continue?
I have yet to read a answer in the media, or anywhere to that .I just hear and read that providing ID is preventing blacks from voting. We have discussed here before. A ID can be had cheap or free. There are free rides to voting booths on election day and so on. 40 years ago, they might have had a legit gripe, but any legitimacy is faded and gone.
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Voter ID laws deprive many voters of their right to vote, reduce participation, and stand in direct opposition to our country’s trend of including more Americans in the democratic process. Many Americans do not have one of the forms of identification states acceptable for voting. These voters are disproportionately low-income, racial and ethnic minorities, the elderly, and people with disabilities. Such voters more frequently have difficulty obtaining ID, because they cannot afford or cannot obtain the underlying documents that are a prerequisite to obtaining government-issued photo ID card.
Millions of Americans Lack ID. 11% of U.S. citizens – or more than 21 million Americans – do not have government-issued photo identification.1
Obtaining ID Costs Money. Even if ID is offered for free, voters must incur numerous costs (such as paying for birth certificates) to apply for a government-issued ID.
Underlying documents required to obtain ID cost money, a significant expense for lower-income Americans. The combined cost of document fees, travel expenses and waiting time are estimated to range from $75 to $175.2
The travel required is often a major burden on people with disabilities, the elderly, or those in rural areas without access to a car or public transportation. In Texas, some people in rural areas must travel approximately 170 miles to reach the nearest ID office.
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I SUPPORT voter ID. What I don't support is the voter having to TRAVEL LONG DISTANCES OR HAVING TO PAY FOR THE PAPERWORK THAT IS REQUIRED.
This requirement to vote mostly affects the poor, the low income, and the old. You own a vehicle and are able to drive it. There are massive amount of people that don’t own a vehicle. They rely on public transportation. You receive some disability income and also work your own business. You have the ability to take a day off and drive to wherever you need to go, These people don’t have the luxury of loosing a day of work. Then, the costs (more than one) Here in Florida, like everywhere else, by Federal law, you need these documents to get a drivers license or ID card
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And you have to do this in person. Many people in this situation just say it’s not worth it and choose not to vote. Okay, one less vote, no sweat, but, think of this. People in this group is traditionally more liberal and leaning to the Democrats. Now, guess who are pushing for Voter ID?
Still, you say, it’s a good idea to know who is voting. Okay, then make it easier to get the ID, In Florida, an ID card cost $25. A birth certificate is $15. Eight dollars more if requested by computer but the ID card has to be in person
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They do have a “legit gripe”.
You have to be able to prove who you are at some point in your life.
Granted, without a serial number on our heels, our "papers" are vulnerable.
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Now let me ask a question. Isn't it true that a young adult can apply for food stamps to include ALL the people living in their home and only have to prove their identity only? The mother, father, grandmother, grandfather, or even a non family dependent would be part of the formula to calculate monthly allotment. None of these people have to have an ID card. They can't vote but, it proves my point
See, you do understand!
Their lives still don't matter to you and many others, including police and politicians,
so therefore black people bring up race.
Peace does not make money for the media.
'Peace does not make money for the media.' True, isn't Fox News not 'the media'?
It is even America's most watched 'news' media network.
And it is stirring up your fear, anger and hate 24/7.
Sean Hannity is paid $ 42 million per year to do nothing else.
Sean Hannity is breeding hatred against the poor and adoration for the rich.
Tucker Carlson, who earns $35 million/year, uses fake populism, to do the same.
And he is creating distrust of science and 'the media', while he is that fake media.
He is also assigned to the job of breeding fear and hate against all non-whites.
He is openly presenting KKK propaganda on live television. It's pure
'White genocide conspiracy theory' on a slightly softer tone.
Same propaganda, but just cheaper liars.
"Stop all the underhanded exchange of money and be more transparent."
Exactly stop racist right-wingers from paying crazy Republican politicians
and black lives might eventually matter also.
that there is not a direct link between money and hate or control of people.
Money is not evil in that sense, but it causes selfishness and shortsightedness.
That has everything to do with money and short term profits.
The people with the money are using 'divide and conquer' methods,
(to control people), to maintain and increase their wealth and power.
THAT RESULTS in hatred and evil.
And now think further; who has the money and how do they use it?
claiming he needs it for his legal defense. And idiots like you are giving it.
Wasn't he supposed to be a billionaire? Why does he need your money then?
The donors that are stupid enough to fall for their propaganda.
When the familys of the fallen blacks receive nothing from blm, although they are the suffering 1's, people should be able to see right thru the greed and violence and know this is not a legit group trying to actually Help any cause the black people may need help with.
Bernie madoff was put in prison for similar things
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Trump Scammed Supporters Out of $250 Million for Nonexistent Fraud Fund
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Pro-MAGA Clothing Company Fined for 'Phony Made in USA Labels': 'Come Clean,' Says FTC
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Two men plead guilty to border wall fundraising scam that Trump pardoned Steve Bannon for
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Rather it be bureau of land management or black lives matter.
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Just how reckless are they with their donations?
Folks like myself would not be nearly as resentful of blm if the news storys were something like, "blm gives 50,000 dollars to homeless shelter" or "blm gives 50,000 dollars to victims family".
BUt it is shit like this that prompt folks like me to despise the group
He values the color green more than the color black; Amazing!
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But, people are getting tired of Old Joe’s Democrats. I’m sorry but I think we are going to loose the midterms
Ditch the january 6th crap and put that effort into fixen the country and you might regain some headway lost.
Every time she opened her mouth, she dropped another few percent.
And she finally was so humiliated that she dropped out.
Even Major Pete would be a better choice. At least he was in the lead for a while.
And he can argue against right-wing 'arguments' much better than Kamala.
But, after Biden, you need someone really strong or they will lose.
Please don't go with some weak, mealy-mouthed corporatist. Choose a populist with charisma and courage instead. Or at least the person who comes closest
to that type of character. But maybe not someone who would be vilified by the corporate media 24/7. So AOC is out and Bernie too (and he is too old).
Do you really think Kamala Harris can win at messaging from bullshit artists like Trump or Ron DeSantis or heaven forbid Tucker Carlson? They would crush her.
In the Trump era, you don't even need a politician to run. Better not, even.
Your best bet would be to demand Jon Stewart to run for president.
Jon Stewart would crush them. And he would also give the media a spectacle
that they like, so they wouldn't vilify him. You need someone who can do that.
For your obvious argument that he shouldn't have fled for police:
"Black Men May Have Cause To Run From Police, Massachusetts High Court Says":
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Foreseeing your argument that Jayland Walker WAS armed;
they later found a gun in his car, but he was unarmed when police killed him.
The white freak should have been shot on sight, plain and simple.
They treat most mass murderers like royalty.
Or they give them an hour to kill even more kids,
while victims are bleeding out, like in Texas.
You still don't understand that cops shouldn't kill anyone,
unless it's absolutely necessary. But they only do that for
white mass murderers. They probably relate with them more.
But republicans pretend to be the party of law and order, while they say stupid shit like that. Law and order means that the police apprehends any suspect, without violence, unless violence is absolutely necessary. Then the suspects has their day in court.
That is how a modern society should operate. We have police to uphold the law,
not to be judge, jury and executioner.
When a society is confronted with chaos, it should respect it's basic principles
with more determination, not let the principles fly out the window.
That would just create more chaos.
The US has great principles; the constitution and the amendments. Be proud of them and safeguard them. Do not skimp on them, even for the worst offenders.
They have been disgraced enough, by the very people who should uphold them.
Where is all your crying about black on black crime? That is like off the charts here. Your lib mind is brainwashed. Drink more Kook-AID!
Give up all your personal property and rights!
they do that because a whole lot of them are authoritarian racists.
They ARE TRAINED to prioritize their own life above anyone else's life.
They should be trained to prioritize protecting and serving above their own life.
And I'm just as concerned about black on black crime as about white on white crime.
a racist college fund? Used to be I think.
a mind is a terrible thing to waste , regardless of the skin color on the head it's in.
Well guess what? they decided to offer help to all students recently! UM, could it be,that someone thought it might be less apt to get sued?
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Well I don't know what to make of this.
but climate change will end civilization.
When I bought a house, I calculated in times of high inflation. I didn't start paying off my mortgage at first, because my monthly payments were high. But I didn't worry about that, because I EXPECTED high inflation in the then near future, which would alleviate my debt. It worked out like I planned. My interest rate is now very low, my monthly payments are peanuts and my house is worth $155,000 more than I payed for it.
But, if this inflation doesn't blow over, what do yo think will happen? No financial structure has ever survived for more than 100 years. The current financial system of unlimited debt is unsustainable. You think that's caused by government spending on the remaining social system, but that's just propaganda from the rich. Average Americans pay much more taxes than is ever spend on them. It's the banks and the rich who get unlimited money from your government and give nothing back for it.
When this financial system collapses, just make sure the rich don't end up owning everything you own. That's what will happen if Americans keep voting for Republicans and corporate Democrats. I am a socialist, because I understand capitalism is reaching it's end and I don't want it replaced by feudalism, but by socialism.
Corrupt welfare at best. Only an idiot would want this, or to think it works.
Right-wingers just call it socialism to confuse stupid people.
Dutch retard.
Find me any country where the people are in power and have ownership of key industries, instead of the rich and powerful elite and then you are warranted calling that socialism. I don't know of any country that qualifies though.
You always show you know absolutely nothing. I won't call you an American retard, because your profile states you are not an American and your ideas and values are Anti-American. The founding fathers would be ashamed of you.
Inflation is a issue that affects the NOW , climate change is a educated guess as to how and what the future may hold.
Regardless, as long as inflation continues, the cost of doing anything to change the outcome of climate change is prohibitive.
So inflation needs to be fixed FIRST and foremost. then look for the next most important problem.
Which could be our illegal immigration problem, or the aging electrical grid.
Every Republican — and 4 Democrats — vote against House bill to stop Big Oil's price gouging on gas.
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