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By tecsan at 11,Jun,24 08:11 other posts of tecsan 
Look at the protests from the left then look at the right (apples and oranges).
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Destroying historical statues is despicable and against the law.


By phart at 22,May,24 02:35 other posts of phart 
Stupid is, is stupid does,
his life didn't matter to much to him or he woulda known not to point a gun to his own head and pull the trigger.what else did he expect?
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By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,24 11:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
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"Gun-related deaths from preventable, intentional, and undetermined causes totaled 48,204 in 2022, a decrease of 1% from 48,830 deaths in 2021. Suicides account for 56% of deaths related to firearms, while 41% were homicides, and about 1% were preventable/accidental. Please note that the term gun is used on this page to refer to firearms that can be carried by a person, not to the larger class of weapon."

1% is shy of 500 people/year. You never cared about it before,
so why do you think it's newsworthy now?
By phart at 22,May,24 22:33 other posts of phart 
Well, this is just to illustrate once again for the seemingly millionth time that black people do not value their OWN lives, why should any one else?
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,24 07:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This anecdote illustrates that?
One stupid black kid accidentally shot himself and that's what you think?
No, you just want to justify your hate for black people.

And what's the 'once again' about? The other black kid, who was dumb enough
to ring the doorbell in the evening, without knowing the address 100% surely?
Yeah, obviously that's not valuing your life, because that mistake is lethal.
Only in your fucked up country.

However, you only value the lives of zygotes and fetuses,
and everyone who has left the womb is worthless the next day,
so I'm not surprised you think that way.
By tecsan at 23,May,24 08:04 other posts of tecsan 
Again for the millionth time Ananas2xLekker you have no understanding of what happens here except what libtard media reports. You have NEVER been here even once. Now how the hell can you preach to us about what we see. I have not criticized your country with the exception of calling it small. You know nothing about and nor do we with you I have never been to your small country nor do I intend to. Sounds like a libtard just blowing your shit around to irritate everyone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,24 08:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I have that understanding from what YOU lot tell me.
You all were very clear that the old guy was justified
to kill that black kid ringing his doorbell in the evening.

You have lots of opinions about countries you've never been in.
And you don't know shit about anything, not even your own country.
By tecsan at 23,May,24 08:45 other posts of tecsan 
I do know I have black family members (six) that agree with me... I guess I imagine that. Do you have any in your family So ignorant.?
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,24 09:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You cannot chose your family. We have black friends. Do you?
My own family is tiny, I have just one brother. He has a white girlfriend.
My family in law are racists, they cannot even talk with black people.

Your black family members surely call you racist behind your back.
They don't agree with you, they just want to shut you up.

Racism is having negative opinions about a race in general.
Saying "black people do not value their OWN lives" is racism.
Even if some black people say it themselves, that's still racism.
If you don't understand that, that's ignorance.

Ask your black family members if they value their own lives.
And if they like it that phart generalizes them as people who
do not value their own lives, because they are black.
By phart at 27,May,24 20:07 other posts of phart 
I am sorry, stating facts is not racism.
Blacks do not value their own lives or they would do something to stop killing each other.
NOTHING racist about that. Just a simple factual statement. EDIT, now that I think about it,it is showing sympathy for them and is a small attempt to wake them up to the problems.
IF I wanted to make what you feel is a racist rant I would further that by saying they ENJOY killing each other,it gets them on the nightly news.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,May,24 12:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You don't do anything to stop white people from killing each other either.
You keep supporting gun rights without restrictions, which is killing tens of thousands of people of all colors. Most mass shooters are WHITE.
And you do NOTHING!!! Do you enjoy it?

It just makes them exactly the same as you. Do you value your own life?
You think healthcare is just for people who can afford it. You can not.
That's you not caring about your own life enough, to do something.

Racism is generalizing people by their color. What you are saying for ALL black people is objectively untrue for lots of black people. There are many black people organizing to solve their problems, working to keep their kids out of trouble and providing them with a future.
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By phart at 29,May,24 12:44 other posts of phart 
healthcare is entirely different.it does not involve a crook that has walked thru the revolving doors of justice 15 times.
True, health care is expensive for me,but my care is not everyone else's problem.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,May,24 15:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"but my care is not everyone else's problem."
Yes, it is, that's called 'solidarity'.
The average animal cares more about it's peers,
than you want humanity to care about each other.
By phart at 30,May,24 18:30 other posts of phart 
I am so sick of this your problem is my problem shit in society, it gets us no where.

IF each person took care of them selves, there would be no need for all this solidarity crap.

"Social solidarity emphasizes the interdependence between individuals in a society, which allows individuals to feel that they can enhance the lives of others. It is a core principle of collective action and is founded on shared values and beliefs among different groups in society"

Groups, others, why not take care of 1's SELF!???
"Independent living means the ability to examine alternatives and make informed decisions and direct one's own life. "
Although I am partially handicapped, this concept should apply to everyone.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 06:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you kidding? Being a community is how humans build this civilization.

Your idea just means survival of the fittest. This is what animals do.
Have you seen any animals building a civilization lately?

Humanity only survived and evolved because we developed our brains.
Without our brains we are just a weak, naked ape.
But one brain alone doesn't build a civilization.
We did that by working together as communities.
Every conflict between communities just set us back.
The communities that worked together on the most equal footing
and had the mentality of 'your problem is my problem' the most,
created the most progress.

"why not take care of 1's SELF!?" Because with that mindset
we would have been EXTINCT millions of years ago.
By phart at 31,May,24 11:22 other posts of phart 
but with this sense of community everything we have done as humans has heated the earth, made some rich and some poor,some hungry,some not and so on if everything liberals say is to be taken as truth, so this system you like is not working either according to your own mindset.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 17:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The problem is that the communities we are evolved to be capable of understanding is the size of the tribes we once had. We are not evolved to understand a community of 8 billion people. That's what tribalism comes from. People will help their neighbors in a small village, but the sense of community is much less in a big city. Still, if you live in Boston and there is a terrorist bomber, then even in a big city people will help others.
That's even less for people in another city nearby and even less again in the next state. When something bad happens in another country, most people will not consider that their community. If they see that country as
an opposing tribe, they might even consider their suffering welcome.

In any case, humanity has spread over the earth like locusts, affecting every square inch of its surface, the resources below it, every drop of water and every breath of air. There is no going back. If we continue
the way we have done, we will destroy the vulnerable balance of life
that supports our own lives.

The only way humanity can survive is to enlarge our sense of our tribe to the whole global community. Some people call that 'globalism' and consider it a bad thing. That's because they only see corrupt politicians and owners of corporations embrace 'globalism', who are the most selfish and least qualified people to save humanity. They just want to control the global population for their own wealth and power. If we want to save humanity,
we have to all enlarge our tribes and do it soon, or we will all see the demise of our small tribes, sooner than most of you think.










By phart at 23,May,24 11:09 other posts of phart 
the black kid ringing a door bell. Yes, that is a terriable situation.
BUT for crying out loud what so hard for you to understand about a older person minding their own bussiness in their own home, being concerned for their safety in a country that the justice system is failing more and more every day,allowing criminals to roam like cattle in the streets?
How was the old man to know if the kid was ok and making a mistake or if he was there to harm and rob?
He wasn't wearing a sign.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,24 13:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How? You ask the person at the door! Sound can get through a door.
Then the kid would have just said he was there to pick up his brother.
If he doesn't go away, after hearing he's at the wrong house, then it starts to get suspicious. Still no reason to shoot him, but a reason to threaten him with it.

You don't assume that someone is out to get you and kill them just to make sure.
If you are scared, don't open the door. Or buy one of those brackets that keep the door from opening completely.
If you shoot someone without justification, you should go to prison.

Unless the old man was demented as fuck, but then his family should have taken his gun away. If you are pro life enough to ban people from having sex, you should be pro life enough to take away the guns from people who are a danger to society.

Would you shoot someone just for ringing your doorbell?
If you would, you are not a responsible gun owner, but a threat to society,
and someone should take away your gun(s).

The justice system in your country isn't failing, you are failing!
Crime has been going down for decades and you are getting more afraid
by the day. Your fear is what causes all those murders.
No justice system can solve that.

It requires common sense gun reform and a culture shift.
Right-wingers are a bunch of scared little bitches. MAN UP!
By phart at 23,May,24 14:11 other posts of phart 
So you feel it is ok to leave old people defenseless at home? when you get to a certain age is someone just going to grab you and put you in a safe spot under a light?
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,24 14:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I said "demented as fuck", didn't I?
Being old isn't a reason, thinking some random kid, the mailman, the neighbor
or your own family is a robber, that is a reason to get your guns taken away.

There is a line between your right to defend yourself
and other people's rights to be defended from YOU.

At some point old people get their drivers license revoked,
to protect the other people on the road. SAME THING!
By phart at 23,May,24 18:37 other posts of phart 
Far far from the same thing.
i can't believe you are that naive.
you are educated past the point of thinking it is ok to leave old people at home alone with out defense.The only way I guess you will understand is when you get old and can still do things for yourself but your family says to hell with you and leaves you alone. living alone can be scary enough if you can defend yourself. much less being UNable to defend yourself and be at the mercy of thugs barging in on you in your own home.It is called home invasion. And the folks doing it don't exactly announce their intent.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,May,24 14:17 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If old people become a danger to themselves and other people around them, they should not be living alone. What a stupid idea that you can just hand them a gun and they will be fine.

No one is able to defend themselves against "thugs barging in on you in your own home". I'm not a small guy, but I'm probably not able to defend myself against two or three hardened criminals, so why should some old guy be able to defend himself against that? You are saying it yourself: "the folks doing it don't exactly announce their intent". Are you carrying your gun in a holster,
like a cowboy? Unless you have that gun at the ready, you won't have any time in that case.

You are a scared little kitten, for imagining you are in need of protecting yourself against that. And you have illusions of being Rambo, for thinking if that happens you can save yourself. There are almost no accounts of people actually defending themselves against actual violence like that. Meanwhile, there are 50,000 gun deaths each year. The risk of some old man or you dying from an accidental shooting is many many times higher than the possibility of you surviving an assault that you had otherwise not survived. All because of your fantasy that you might one day be forced to defend yourself, your risk resulting from everyone having guns is about 1000 times higher.

I'm sure you are not as stupid with guns as that rapper kid.
But there are lots of people walking around who are just that stupid,
and your ideas put a gun in the hands of all those stupid people.
There are way more stupid people than there are thugs who want to kill you.

Your cause of death will most likely be a lack of healthcare, which is also a result of your own ideas. If a bullet ends your life, it will either be from your own gun, the AR-15 from some lunatic mass shooter, some idiot discharging his gun by accident, some idiot doing target practice on his scrap wood fence when you drive by, or some other random thing you have no possibility of defending yourself against. Those things do not happen in my country,
where random idiots usually don't have guns to play with.
By phart at 27,May,24 16:54 other posts of phart 
so you are a typical liberal that does not feel like people have the right to defend themselves?
Well I HOPE you are never a victim of a crime. But if you are, and survive, I am willing to bet you are smart enough to put the facts together.
And another thing you seem to miss ,responsible gun owners KNOW how to USE their guns and when it is justified. protecting 1's life and family, is that justification.

Why is it that you can't understand that you can't secure the people with a few law men that are minutes away in a emergency? And why leave ALL defenseless because of a few loonies? The loonies not being kept locked up is part of what breeds insecurity.
I may not be able to run fast,or fight, But i am no so damn slow I am just going to sit here and let someone shoot me without them needing some corks to.
By tecsan at 29,May,24 04:31 other posts of tecsan 
Give up with this, I already posed this to him about a knife and a gun fight. He merely stated what are you going to do show up carrying a gun. I never threatend him either. I merely meant what if a law breaker, crimininal or illegal alien confronted him with an illegally obtained gun(stolen gun etc).
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,May,24 09:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Yes, I don't care. I accept the risk of not being able to defend myself with the optimum tools for killing, so I'm not under the overall added risk of everyone having the optimum tools for killing.
By phart at 29,May,24 12:25 other posts of phart 
Gee,you must not value your life either, I bet you stand outside during a thunderstorm.Do you also eat raw foods and use drugs?

ok, that was being a smart ass but really, just because YOU don't care, doesn't mean the rest of us should not.
My life means alot to me,if I am gone, others i care about have no 1 else to depend on in their time of need. A criminal with intent to harm me, is like you,he doesn't care, he thinks he has the right to end my life. He don't. And I don't intend to let him without a fight.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,May,24 14:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Is this logic really so difficult for you?

I don't care about your fantasy of defending yourself.
I care about actual risks to my life being minimized.

In 5 years, about 650 people were killed in my country,
mostly by people they knew. Or criminals killing criminals.
We had three mass shooting in our whole history.

The risk that I need to protect myself is incredibly small.
Way smaller than your risk of getting killed, without you ever
having the chance to defend yourself or trying and failing.

Your risk of getting killed is much much higher.
You care more about your fantasy of defending yourself,
than about the actual risk to your life.

I prefer to live my life, instead of being too afraid to live.
I understand which risks are irresponsible and which are worth it.
By phart at 29,May,24 20:12 other posts of phart 
It is not a fantasy dingdong! It is reality here in the US. When you live in rural areas, your law enforcement the libs think we should depend on for our safety are to far away.
Look at what several states have done recently in regards to guns, Louisiana for 1.

There is alot of stuff here you will love BUT, there are also clear statements made about it not being documented about guns preventing crimes well enough to prove 1 way or another.
That is done on purpose in my opionion.
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over 70,000 crimes prevented with guns in 2018. ok, let's say that they didn't have a gun but had a big stick, how high would that number be? And what do you tell those 70,000 potential victims if they ask why they shouldn't have a gun when it is documented that a gun prevented them from being a victim?
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,May,24 16:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You are also claiming that it's the cities where all that crime is,
so why do you need to defend yourself in rural areas?

"According to the survey, firearms were used defensively in 166,900 nonfatal violent crimes between 2014 and 2018, which works out to an average of 33,380 per year."

This data is collected by means of surveys. Are they calling it using their firearm defensively, when they are in an argument and take out their gun to make the other guy back off? That's not a crime prevented, that's what leads to your 43,000 gun deaths per year.

In any case, if there is any truth to that number of crimes and prevented crimes, I understand you wanting to arm yourself. But that's your country being out of control. We don't have that. We don't have your violent crime and murder rates, so I have no reason to arm myself.

In my opinion, your violent crime and murder rates are caused by your 2nd amendment rights. You would be safer if you didn't have them.
By phart at 30,May,24 18:38 other posts of phart 
Um, you are missing a key point.
IF guns were outlawed only outlaws would have guns, is a old saying that's been around for decades BUT it is the truth and totally logical.
If you are of criminal intent, the sudden outlawing of your tool of choice to commit crimes with is NOT going to prompt you to surrender it to the first cop you see. You will sit back and wait until all the law abiding citizens turn in their guns and then use yours to further your criminal activity ,knowing full well your victims are defenseless.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 07:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Like I pointed out before, you are going back to square one.
This is that basic argument all gun lovers start with.

Being an 'outlaw' isn't in people genes. People become an outlaw when they commit their first crime. For some, that first crime is mass murder with an AR-15. For others, that first crime is shoplifting.
With guns being available to everyone as easy as in your country, it is easy to become a mass shooter or an armed robber. In my country, this is both difficult and expensive. They either have to go through the trouble of taking up shooting sports and getting a silence or they have to buy a gun on the black market. At that point, they have to involve themselves with (other) criminals, which is dangerous.
Our criminals are not in the gun selling business, because that is not profitable in our country, they distribute guns among themselves as their tools of the trade, which is mostly drugs-related. They are not interested in a small profit, because they are making millions in their business. They don't need the risk of the buyer being an undercover cop, a competitor messing with their business or a crazy person attracting attention.

Most mass murderers don't plan that far ahead or are not even mentally capable of planning and executing that. In your country, they just have a gun laying around. Armed robbers are mostly working alone. It is an inefficient crime;
to much risk for its reward. We had 467 armed robberies last year.
71% of them are caught and imprisoned.

In my country, anyone who is searched or arrested by police, having an unlicensed gun carries a prison sentence of maximum 4 years.
In your country, criminals can just walk around with their guns, looking for a chance to us it, without the risk of being imprisoned.

The situation where all law abiding citizens are defenseless already exists, in my country. Almost no one is allowed to carry a gun on them and all other gun owners either have their gun locked in a safe at the shooting range or at home. Of all licenses, 88% is issued for shooting sports. A much lower percentage than 12% (I cannot find the actual percentage) of licenses is issued for justified self-defense.
Even an owner of a jewelry store would need additional justification.
Target sports guns are all limited to .22. Hunting requires a two year course and exam. Any criminal would have terrible bad luck of ever meeting a law abiding citizen who can defend themself.
So, what are they waiting for?

By tecsan at 31,May,24 07:53 other posts of tecsan 
give it up phart this guy is an idiot.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 07:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Idiots are incapable of logical argumentation, like you.
By tecsan at 31,May,24 07:56 other posts of tecsan 
Like you Ananas2xLekker you always try to twist shit like libtards do.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 08:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Where am I twisting shit then?

You say "PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT",
but I have heard NO FACTS FROM YOU.



By phart at 31,May,24 11:25 other posts of phart 
not a idiot, just indoctrinated in a very liberal country.
He is similar to a teen ager that thinks he knows the world and doesn't know how to change a tire.
Give him time and ananas will eventually wake up day and a light bulb will flash in his head as he looks around and realizes, when the liberal coke bottle glasses fall off,the world is not what he has been lead to believe.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 17:12 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I don't live in a country that needs to protect children with armed guards. You are the indoctrinated side in this discussion, to think that this is normal, unrelated, a unfortunate side effect or the reason itself to arm yourselves.

And you are indoctrinated by corrupt politicians and media,
taking money from the military industrial complex and NRA.
You hear your arguments 24/7 from them, and parrot them along.
No one is telling me what to think.










By Ananas2xLekker at 29,May,24 09:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
A typical liberal? I am a liberal on personal issues, not on economic issues, as I explained before.

I want everyone to have the freedom to live their lives and have the opinions they want, up to the point that it affects others in a negative way too much. I accept that freedoms have some negative side effects. The right to life, the freedom of speech, the freedom of religion, the freedom to protests, bodily autonomy, the freedom of commerce, the freedom of identity expression, the freedom of movement, and all the others I have forgotten, all have restrictions to protect other people, who have the same rights and freedoms. Those rights are not evenly important, your right to live is more important than some other persons freedom of religion or freedom to protests, and vice versa.

People have a right to defend themselves, as long as that right doesn't reduce the rights of other people too much. Your interpretation of the 2nd amendment does reduce the rights of other people too much. Too many people die (in violent attacks) because of your right to protect yourself against dying (from a violent attack). All your schools need to be protected with many armed guards, for your interpretation of the 2nd amendment. The police is even too afraid to do their jobs of protecting people, because of your interpretation of the 2nd amendment. This is not acceptable. That's why you cannot have whatever tools you want, for your right to defend yourself. Only people who are at risk, because of their service to society, should have better tools to be able to defend themselves. An exception would be shooting sports, but I would strictly license those so the weapons are not used in self-defense, for people who are not at risk because of their service to society.

I am also a socialist, which means I support solidarity. The freedoms I support should improve society or at least not hurt it too much. As members of our society, we should not selfishly demand freedoms that hurt the majority of other peoples freedoms too much. Your interpretation of the 2nd amendment does hurt the majority of other peoples freedoms too much.
By tecsan at 30,May,24 01:32 other posts of tecsan 
Whoa hoss, police are afraid to do their jobs because it does no good. The criminal arrested is released with no bail before officers can finish their paperwork.

Furthermore; they (the officers) have to be worried constantly for anything they say or do. It is left up to public opinion or a corrupt soro's District Attorney or a corrupt libtard judge. PLEASE GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT idiot.

You are an idot SOCIALIST is the major problem. Wanna be socialist and progressive libtards are also part of the problem. Open your eyes and be more attentive.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 30,May,24 18:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Bullshit! It's their fucking job to arrest them, even if their paperwork takes longer than the detainee is in a cell.

The police is afraid to go to any relational conflict, because there might be a gun involved. Our police officers don't have to be afraid like that.
By phart at 31,May,24 02:10 other posts of phart 
Yea, I know, your "criminals" are probably folks that scrape a little money off the top of the income from their liquor stores or something, your citizens are incapable of any violent crimes because they are to sedentary from the easy living, free health care etc lifestyle .Your criminals are probably on disability since they are to lazy to be strong enough to break a window or hold a ball bat up in the air to rob someone at bat point.
The cops just walk up and say, "hey pedro, we got fresh califlower in at the jail downtown, you want some and your criminals just go get in the range rover and ride in for free food.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 08:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Criminals, in my country, are either in financial crimes or in drugs.
Violent crimes with guns are mostly related to the drugs crimes.
People fighting, beating or killing partners, r@pe, etc. mostly don't involve guns. Those are crimes, but not the usual behavior of career criminals. People who commit those violent crimes have no guns.
In my country that is, in your country they mostly do have guns.



By Ananas2xLekker at 31,May,24 09:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you talking about a case like this, when the police has to release someone, with no bail, before officers can finish their paperwork?
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Listen to what he got arrested for.
Keep listening and learn something about your two-tier justice system.

















By phart at 30,May,24 10:22 other posts of phart 
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Take a bath before a flight?is it to much to ask?


Having worked with black people, there have been times the smell was intolerable.


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By Ananas2xLekker at 27,May,24 14:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What a depressingly nonsensical story.

"In retrospect, I wish I’d posed a variation of the old election-year question. I’d have asked if their lives are better after the last 40 years, not just four. Then again, they may have given me the same answer I heard over and over: It’s so messed up."

There is absolutely no depth of thinking there. No principles, no analytical capability,
just simplistic gut feelings and thinking anecdotes are representative of the world.
They probably flip from party to party, every time asking themselves: "Did my life become better under this president?". Yes? I'll vote for the same party. No? I'll vote for the other party. If this is how far your understanding of the world goes, stop voting, because you're not able to make a justified decision.

I even have more respect for a principled right-wing conservative, than someone who votes for Democrats over gut feelings. Being wrong is better than not thinking at all.
However, as obvious from this story, Fox 'News' supports those stupid gut feelings.



By tecsan at 22,May,24 05:39 other posts of tecsan 
I bet Ananas2xlekker & PITBULL (AKA freddy) love this news network. You too CAT whatever name you are using now.

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By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,24 11:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Never heard of it.

"All Urban Central is your news source for todays pop culture and urban entertainment. Stay Updated with the latest Hip Hop / Rap Music Videos releases, interviews, lives, red carpets, and social media updates from the world of entertainment and urban pop culture."

No, I'm not interested in todays pop culture and urban entertainment.
Hip Hop and Rap Music is also not my thing. I'm more of a (hard) rocker.
News about celebrities and the entertainment industry is not news to me.

News is supposed to inform you about things happening in the world, that have
an impact on your life, liberty and future. It should hold powerful people to account,
who are messing with your life, liberty and future. It should be objective, profound
and transparent. If it isn't, it's a waste of time.

I'm not opposed to wasting my time, I'm just not interested in this waste of time.



By tecsan at 21,May,24 07:14 other posts of tecsan 
Now the fuckers want to praise hamas and palestinians as they spout off anti-Semitism remarks. I know you love it Ananas2xLekker because they also chant death to America as they SQUAT on University property in tents and desacrate they trash the ground. I know you love it and bet you wish you could be one of the freaks to join them.

You and Soros would probably fall in love with each other if you ever met each other.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 07:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You hate Soros, because he's a Jew, remember? That's anti-Semitism.
Whenever your side gets excited, you chant: "The Jews will not replace us!"

Sometimes, intrusive protests are necessary to fight injustice,
like in the case of a country committing a genocide.

Why do you even care about students blocking their University?
If it was up to you, there wouldn't be any. You hate knowledge.
By phart at 21,May,24 13:01 other posts of phart 
I hate soros because he supports anarchy and division among the people. I don't give a damn about his religion. Frankly, I would say he is a disgrace to the jewish people if anything.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 15:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Anarchy? Please explain. Do you even know what the guy does?

"Open Society Foundations (OSF), formerly the Open Society Institute, is a US-based grantmaking network founded by business magnate George Soros. Open Society Foundations financially supports civil society groups around the world, with the stated aim of advancing justice, education, public health and independent media."
That's the exact opposite of anarchy.

If you'd care about division, you would hate Donald Trump.

Weak arguments! If he wasn't a Jew, right-wingers wouldn't care about him.
Your whole replacement theory is based on a Jew conspiracy.
You're side are the anti-semites. Trump is an anti-semite.
You just hate Muslims even worse, so you endorse their genocide.
By phart at 21,May,24 18:28 other posts of phart 
his money is helping pay for professional protesters at our colleges and universitas.
The folks that went to college for the right reasons couldn't even graduate in peace because of his money
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,24 09:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's just a stupid lie. The people who protest at universities, against Israel committing a genocide, are not doing it for money. There are however probably
a lot of paid chaos actors amongst them. And those are not paid by George Soros,
unless he supports Israel in their genocide. Also, there is clear evidence now that
most of the violence is coming from the counter-protesters.

Understand that every little bit of damage or violence being associated with anti-genocide protesting only hurts the cause. My Socialist Party very much supports anti-genocide protesting, but because of damage to our universities, we have not joined them. We are however in discussion with one of the most law-abiding, peaceful groups and might join them in their next protest. Worth to mention is that they have actually achieved some of their goals and that university is actually considering cutting ties with some Israeli universities.

I do need to note that cutting ties with all Israeli universities is not necessarily
a good thing. It depends on how much they support their government in committing
a genocide. The strongest protests within Israel itself is actually coming from the highly educated community, associated with some universities. The last thing my side should do is alienate them. They deserve all the support we can give them, because the extremist Netanyahu government is already cracking down on them.
Right-wingers always hate free speech, everywhere in the world.

The goal of going to university is not to graduate, but to LEARN. If graduating
is more important to them, than international law and preventing a genocide,
then they don't deserve to 'graduate in peace'.



By boc at 21,May,24 16:03 other posts of boc 
Where do you get this information on Soros. I only hear things about him from the Maga crowd. Is there any way to verify such claims?
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 16:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He is a big funder of the Democrats. And he is a rich Jew.
Normally those people fund Republicans. Just not Soros.
They just need to demonize him, for that reason.
By boc at 21,May,24 16:13 other posts of boc 
This is what is said about him. I want to find reliable sources on Soros, not just some random know-nothing from the internet. Do you know where I can find information on Soros?
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 16:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
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Or google "opensecrets george soros".

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You could Google translate this Dutch article to English:
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I do not care much about George Soros specifically. The people who do care so much should ask themselves why rich people are allowed to have so much influence in your politics at all. They can vote, just like you, that should be enough.

By phart at 21,May,24 18:36 other posts of phart 
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" Cities under the influence of Soros-backed prosecutors are less safe than a decade ago. The promise of increased safety was an illusion."
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,24 10:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"Two of the organizers supporting the protests at Columbia University and on other campuses are Jewish Voice for Peace and IfNotNow. Both are supported by the Tides Foundation, which is seeded by Democratic megadonor George Soros and was previously supported by the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. It in turn supports numerous small nonprofits that work for social change."

Organizing is not paying protesters to protest.
And you are associating that with violent protesters? Bullshit!

If Soros is funding Jewish Voice for Peace, then I am pleasantly surprised.

I'm a member of Environmental Defense. They helped organize protests against big polluters, the sad state of our climate policies and TTIP. They are also funding lawsuits against big polluters and our government not acting to protect its people.
Do you think that is supporting 'anarchy and division'? If so, you're a dumb-ass!
We are protesting the destruction of nature and humanity. If that causes people some mild inconvenience, they might think of the inconvenience that the dying of nature and humanity will cause them.

Was the German anti-Hitler resistance causing 'anarchy and division' too?



By boc at 21,May,24 16:16 other posts of boc 
Wealthy folks and companies that fund political parties fund both sides. They hedge their bets so no matter who is in office they can have their concerns addressed.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 16:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Exactly! And I don't like that and call it out on both sides.
Trumpists only care about the other side getting bribes from the wealthy,
while their party only exists to do the bidding of the wealthy.








By tecsan at 13,Oct,23 09:18 other posts of tecsan 
BLM now are defending Hamas and admit anti-semitism.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Oct,23 12:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do we just need to take your word for that?
By tecsan at 16,Oct,23 08:37 other posts of tecsan 
Think you are intelligent enough to research it.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,23 11:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I just found this: "The group, which has more than 60,000 followers, posted an image of a person paragliding with a Palestinian flag attached to its parachute and “I stand with Palestine” written beneath, leading to outrage."

Is that it? Or is there more?

Because I agree that is pretty bad. Supporting Palestinians is the opposite of supporting the terrorists, who not only killed and kidnapped many innocent people,
but now obviously also assured the impending murder of many Palestinians by Israel.

Meanwhile, you are saying that the whole Gaza strip should be taken in by Israel.
That is a horrific statement that you should be ashamed for.
By tecsan at 01,Nov,23 07:02 other posts of tecsan 
Look closely at the paraglider and tell me what he has draped across his shoulder.
By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Nov,23 11:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
NO! You can just TELL ME.

But save yourself the trouble, because it doesn't matter.
A terrorist has no level of depth, they don't want to descend to.
That's why no one cares when Israel kills those terrorists.
But there are standards that nation states have to uphold.
That's why they shouldn't lower themselves to the level of terrorists.
Do you understand that? It very much appears like you don't.

I am not going to 'research' all the incredibly incremental and anecdotal shit,
that you want me to look at, because you are not taking your responsibility
to do general research into world problems that really matter.
By tecsan at 02,Nov,23 04:40 other posts of tecsan 
Neither are you. Socialists never want to put forth any effort except for disrupting other's events. But that paraglider sure did descend and kill innocent people. Thanks for acknowledging that you approve of it with the bs you typed above.
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Nov,23 09:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"But that paraglider sure did descend and kill innocent people."
Are you telling something new, that I didn't 'research'?

For everything that happens in the world, you just listen to propaganda.
I do the hard thing; researching the causes and solutions.
You don't add anything significant to that discussion.

Israel descents bombs that kill innocent people. At least 8,000 now.
More than 40% of the Palestinians killed in Gaza are children,
the child death toll has reached 3,457 yesterday.

I asked you a question:
Should nation states lower themselves to the level of terrorists?
By tecsan at 03,Nov,23 05:34 other posts of tecsan 
Sure I do. My solution is kill fucking hamas and all of their supporters. Remember Israel did not start shit, the fucking paragliding terrorist that killed innocent people did. Why can you not get that through your head?
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Nov,23 08:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How do you tell the Hamas supporters from the 'innocent' civilians?
By tecsan at 04,Nov,23 02:28 other posts of tecsan 
Hmm, how did your friends hamas tell the difference from innocent people (the hamas savages did not care). Got you again. They are brutal savage terrorists (hamas). Love how you try to defend terrorists, does that make you better or the same?
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 08:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The answer is that you do not make any separation between Hamas, its supporters and innocent civilians, so you are supporting genocide; the murder or deportation of all Palestinians.

I do not support the killing of civilians, even if they agree with terrorist acts,
and of course I do not support killing children, not by intent and not 'by accident'.

I do not support Hamas; I am fine with Israel killing every single one of them, without a trial. It's not what a civilized country should do, but clearly you are OK with a country just executing people they call terrorists. I agree it would be to much to ask to arrest and judge all Hamas terrorists, therefore just hunting them down and shooting them is fine by me. However, I draw the line at bombing whole apartment buildings for a claim that there are Hamas terrorist hiding there. That is causing too much collateral damage.

Now, if that is too much to ask, from a country which calls themselves a democracy, then it is lowering itself to the level of terrorists. I do not support terrorist act, not from Hamas and not from Israel. That makes me better than YOU. Even while I don't believe in a soul or karma, supporting terrorist acts is something my conscience does not allow. I don't know if you expect to be judged by a god after you die, but if you do, ask yourself if that god would be OK with you supporting what Israel is doing. Maybe the god from the old testament would allow it, but I thought Christians supported Jesus. And that Jewish socialist hippie would not like you, for many reasons, but also for this.
By tecsan at 08,Nov,23 06:43 other posts of tecsan 
Believe me, I have already heard that I support genocide. Is funny that some of your libtard friends here support hamas. CENSURE a congress person, WOW. Now TWO libtards have made that list. Remember the chant and please keep it up 'genocide joe has to go'. The one time I am on joey's side.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Nov,23 10:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You support Israel in killing all Palestinians or at least deporting them all from Gaza and turn Gaza into Israel. That's genocide. I have heard no 'libtard' say they support Hamas's killing of civilians. Some might say that Israel caused that hate and extremism itself, but that's not supporting it.
I don't want Israel to be genocidal maniacs, because that WILL cause more hate and extremism. That's the opposite of supporting terrorists.

I want less terrorists, not more. When will you understand that your way of 'fighting terrorism' only creates MORE OF IT? You really didn't learn anything from Iraq and Afghanistan.

"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Albert Einstein

Why should I care about censure of congress persons?
Those are just political games. That's not what censure is intended for.
By tecsan at 24,Nov,23 06:59 other posts of tecsan 
There you went again with a lie, I never said I support killing all palestinians, just the ones that have joined with hamas. Please keep your facts straight. I have a friend that supports your comment and maybe you got confused.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Nov,23 14:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I asked you: "What do you consider winning? Killing/deporting all Palestinians and then take all the land that they had remaining?"
You answered (Nov 11, 00:46): "Hell fucking yes,..."

I asked you: "Is there a level of brutality that you would criticize Netanyahu for, or does he have carte blanche?"
You answered (Oct 31, 04:41): "He has carte blanche, gold and platinum until all of them uncivilized savage SOB are dead and yes palestinians that support hamas as well."

On Oct 31, 23:50 you added: "That's what YOU ARE SAYING, by saying Netanyahu "has carte blanche, gold and platinum until all of them uncivilized savage SOB are dead and yes palestinians that support hamas as well." DAMN FUCKING STRAIGHT."

I said: "Stop bombing hospitals, schools and apartment buildings. Stop cutting off people from water, food and power. Stop doing genocide."
You answered (Nov 1, 23:39): "Like I stated to you, hard to do when the cowards use hospital and civilians for cover."

On Nov 1, 23:52 you said: "Yes it is end of time for some and it is the end of civilation for those left standing."

When you implied that Israel is trying to minimize collateral damage, I said "No they are not, that will not result in 8000 deaths, with more than 40% children."
You answered (Nov 3, 01:46): "Actually it does not matter how many deaths it takes if palestinian hamas is fucking annihilated. That will guarantee that they will not do anymore terrorist acts. They are fucking savages and deserve to die. Coward bastards hide behind innocent civilians, no how the fuck do you suppose we kill the fuckers without collaterl damage and ensure in the process they will do no harm to more innocents."

That's you clearly not caring about innocent Palestinians dying and supporting Netanyahu even if he kills ALL OF THEM. That's genocide. YOU ARE THE ONE WHO'S LYING!
By tecsan at 25,Nov,23 06:16 other posts of tecsan 
I know your game now, posting pm's in public discussion forums. Hell, I could do that but I will not. I may paraphrase a few things. But, honestly I do not care. Hamas attacked and provoked. Egypt refused entry of palestenians because they did not know if they were terrorists. What a fucking novel idea closing a border down. Something you only believe in when it comes to your property that you brought with money made through capitalism.

Feel free to keep that crap up. I will not though. Again I do not mind if you feel it necessary. PM, 'p' means private.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 08:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You started that at one time, before me. And you copied a bigger part of my PM's than I did. However, I don't care. If you want to, you can repost any PM to everyone. I do not say anything differently in private, other than in public. I also see no differences between what you say in PM's vs in the forums. If you would have ever said something in confidence, that I would never repeat to anyone.

If you don't want your PM's copy-pasted here, don't lie that I'm lying.












By phart at 05,Nov,23 12:54 other posts of phart 
I would rather israel didn't have to lower themselves to act in a similar fashion to the hamas.But they are left with no choice. You know hamas and the citizens can't be decided between,they look the same, not only that but the hamas hides behind kids, and the sick. Just look where they keep their gas and their main hide out,under a hospital. So if your house is infested with termites, what do YOU do?
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 08:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So, if there is a hostage situation, and a hostage taker is holding a gun to a kid's head, you are OK, with the cops just riddling both of them with bullets?
By phart at 07,Nov,23 11:25 other posts of phart 
the cop is supposed to be trained to hit a target, so the child should not be in danger unless the cop is not qualified to use the gun as he should be
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 22:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Exactly! Meanwhile, Israel is killing the hostage taker and the 100
women and children around them.
It's like if a cop shoots an RPG into a crowd, to kill a murderer.


By tecsan at 24,Nov,23 07:02 other posts of tecsan 
Please stop trying to defend terrorists. They are COWARDS and should be killed, bottom line.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Nov,23 15:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not defending the terrorists, I'm defending civilians.
They can kill the terrorists, but not the civilians, period.
But Netanyahu wants to kill civilians, because he's an evil bastard.
Netanyahu even supported Hamas, so he would be allowed to kill civilians.
So if you want to kill Hamas supporters, start with Netanyahu.









By #610414 at 13,Oct,23 16:18
I'm sad to say this but it looks like you are right. Several chapters did comment favorably about Hamas. Not good.
By tecsan at 14,Oct,23 04:38 other posts of tecsan 
Glad you conceded some, Ananas2xLekker never, he is always right about everything. Can you not look up one damn thing that does not suit your agenda Ananas2xLekker???
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 08:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I don't have an agenda, I have principles.

But it's applicable that we have this discussion in this forum.
Your own question is: "do All lives matter...". Your answer is definitely: 'NO!'.


By phart at 14,Oct,23 11:55 other posts of phart 
I had no idea so many people supported terrorist in this country but since the brutal killings and r@pes of babies have started up again, so many people are actually HAPPY about it. the only good thing about it, we know the truth about some people we otherwise would have not known.
I must admit, this is a strange but good thing,
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So I guess i will go by there and eat a little more often.

By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,23 08:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If BLM says anything good about Hamas, they are STUPID.
Just because Israel does fucked-up shit, doesn't make Hamas good.
Israel is stealing land, because of their horrible religious beliefs.
Hamas just gave them the justification to steal more land and kill more Palestinians
and Israel is taking that justification. I would be surprised if they don't steal the North
of the Gaza strip now.

Hamas is just a horrible Islamic extremist organization, who is using the suffering
of the Palestinians to spread their horrible ideology.
There is no good side here, only evil sides.
By tecsan at 16,Oct,23 08:36 other posts of tecsan 
Did you really just say this crap? The whole strip should be taken in by Israel.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,23 10:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And just mass-murder the 2 million people living there?

Well, that would make them worse than Hamas, or don't you think so?
By phart at 16,Oct,23 14:41 other posts of phart 
If a peice of shit terrorist was hiding in your house, would you just smile as the military came up and shot you and him or would you point out the bastard and maybe save yourself?
And what is keeping hamas from leaving with the palestinians just to come back when the shit settles down?
this is a terrible situation, but hamas had no business attacking for no reason ,that is why it is terrorism and a swift, brutal response is in order to deter further attacks

Israel has been in the cross hairs for so long,It is easy for me to understand why and how they came to this point of "fuck it, kill em all". Enough is enough. Israel was given the Jews in 1945 to try to give them a new start in the land holy to them,
hamas and iran are right in the same boat with hitler regarding the jews.it was fine to go after hitler but suddenly the jews are just supposed to sit back and take it?? Naw, let them defend themselves.They have been persecuted enough.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,23 15:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"a swift, brutal response" killing 2 million people and be done with it?

"Israel was given the Jews in 1945" People were already living there!
Only people who own something have the right to give that something away.
How would you like it, if we give your state to the Palestinians?

"Israel has been in the cross hairs for so long"
As they should be, for stealing people's houses and land.

I don't give a fuck if the land is holy to them. They don't have any more right to it than the people who lived there and also claim their land is holy to them.

Israelis and Palestinians are genetically indistinguishable from each other.
The only thing that divides them is those fucking religions.
Man, do I wish that people can finally get past that bullshit.
By phart at 16,Oct,23 18:06 other posts of phart 
It was not stolen, it was given to them. The people living there today ,most were born there ,so they are citizens and have a right to be just as any Palestinian has.
How would you like to be in a prison,watch your family be taken to a oven and burned, and be rescued, and given a home, only to grow up and have to fight just to be left alone?
All that has to happen is the hamas group be eliminated.
And hasbroloa or how ever you spell it. BUT the Palestinians aid and abet hamas, so are they innocent?
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Oct,23 18:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, it wasn't given to them, there was a WAR over that piece of land.
Don't you know any history? Then there was a new region that didn't exist before, stolen from Palestine and it was called Israel. Then from then forth, Israelis kept stealing houses and land and slowly or not so slowly enlarged Israel and reduced what was left of Palestine. They kept building houses for Israelis in occupied territory, breaking every treaty that was ever made and breaking international law.
Israel has been a horrible apartheid regime for decades.
They have never accepted the sovereignty of Palestine, they have never been serious about peace and they have only ever aspired to the destruction of Palestine.

"they are citizens and have a right to be just as any Palestinian has."
Then why are you allowing them to take it from the Palestinians?

No, the Palestinians are not innocent. As I told you before, there is no good vs evil here. There is just a people with longer rights to the land, which are the Palestinians, and there are conquerors, who are the Israelis.
Palestinians are stupid to look to horrible Islamic extremists for their protection, because horrible Islamic extremists don't care about people. They only care about spreading their ideology and they would sacrifice anyone for that goal.
By boc at 21,May,24 18:48 other posts of boc 
Jews lived in Palestine prior to 1948:

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"Early in the second century A.D., the Emperor Hadrian prohibited the Jews from entering Jerusalem. From that period dates the dispersion of Jews throughout the world. Since then, until the establishment of the State of Israel in 1948, no Jewish Government has existed in Palestine. Although some Jews have always lived in Palestine, their numbers have fluctuated depending on the tolerance of the successive rulers."



By #610414 at 22,Oct,23 15:30
Well, if we are going to go there, Ananas, then we have to say that land belongs to the Turks. It was theirs under the Ottoman Empire.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Oct,23 08:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
By that logic, almost every square kilometer in Europe belongs to several different peoples, from the Africans that moved there, to the Achaeans, the Etruscans, the Batavians, the Romans, the Persians, the Ottomans, the Celts, the Vikings, the Gauls, the Germanic, the Greek, the Franks, the Spanish, the Germans, the French, the English and just concerning Belgium; the Dutch.
It used to be acceptable to just create a big militia, enter an area that doesn't belong to you, kill and subjugate all the inhabitants and place your flag on it.
At some point, civilization decided that this is no longer acceptable. In the 18th century, the 'Right of Conquest' is a right of ownership to land after immediate possession via force of arms. It was recognized as a principle of international law. Then after the Second World War, the 'Right of Conquest' was outlawed as a crime against peace, introduced in the Nuremberg Principles, in 1945.

There is an argument for claiming that Palestine had been legitimately conquered by the British empire and the land of Israel was legitimately 'gifted' to the Jews, calling it Israel. However, international law has encouraged many conquering nations, who owned land they conquered before 1945, to give back that land to its original occupants. Still, I would personally recognize the original borders of Israel, but I consider it a crime against the freedom of religion, which was at that time laid down in every constitution, to define Israel in its declaration of independence as a "Jewish state". I also consider it a crime against international law, every time Israel expanded its borders at the detriment of the Palestinian state. According to international law, the colonies in occupied Palestine are illegal.
By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 13:41
My point is that, while I didn’t approve of the new settlements on the Gaza Strip, I’m also a realist. They exists. They will be there for as long as Israel can hold them.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Oct,23 09:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Nice that you didn't approve of Israel's crimes.
I'm sure you don't like how children are getting bombed to death either.
But you are still supporting Israel to keep doing that.

Nearly 5,100 Palestinians have been killed in the Gaza Strip,
nearly half of them are children. That's terrorism TOO!!!
How about being a 'realist' on that?
By #610414 at 26,Oct,23 12:46
I am. If I support Israel, and I do, then I can feel bad for ALL CHILDREN and still think the current path of the Israelнs is the best option to eradicate Hamas. I know it sounds very close to genocide, but, there it is.
The truth, in my mind, is that all war is an act of terrorism, just in a bigger scale. We tend to separe killings by the number of people killed in each occasion. One person killing another is an act of terrorism. One nation killing five million +/- people is terrorism. Shooting innocent civilians from a hang glider is that too. Some people say that war is Hell. It’s a gentrified way of saying that in war, killing it expected without any concern for whom gets in the way.
As I’ve said before in different words, I’m mortified about the suffering of ALL CHILDREN, but not so much for the people that started this, directly or indirectly.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Oct,23 17:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The people that started this are terrorists. Israel blowing them up or killing them however possible would be well deserved.
But I don't think you can say they 'started this'. This conflict has been going on for decades and the atrocities performed by Israel, during most of that time are just as horrible.

Before this terrorist act, Israel has been killing many Palestinian children too. They have snipers killing children from the guard towers. How is that different from Hamas' terrorist attack?
By #610414 at 26,Oct,23 17:48
THIS TIME. The past is past. And, I don’t believe the last sentence.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Oct,23 13:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Just google 'killed by Israeli sniper' and see a variety of news outlets
report on many cold-blooded murders.

If there is a justification for Israel to do horrible things, than your one-sided 'the past is the past' is not fair.

Your government has outlawed the Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions (BDS) movement, which non-violent international diplomacy support for the right of Palestinians to exist, so you cut of their methods for non-violent protesting. And when they do violent protests it is a justification to mass-murder them.
So what you're saying is that Palestinians should just shut-up and take whatever Israel does to them. What is left for them? Just wait until Israel or the rest of the world decides that they have a right to live somewhere too?
By #610414 at 27,Oct,23 13:58
As of 2021, 35 states have passed bills and executive orders designed to discourage boycotts of Israel.[4] Many of them have been passed with broad bipartisan support.[5] Most anti-BDS laws have taken one of two forms: contract-focused laws requiring government contractors to promise that they are not boycotting Israel; and investment-focused laws, mandating public investment funds to avoid entities boycotting Israel.[6] There has been debate over whether the laws violate the right to free speech and organizations such as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) and the Council on American–Islamic Relations (CAIR) have challenged many of them in court cases.[7]

Public opinions on the BDS movement and anti-BDS laws
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According to University of Maryland's Critical Issues Poll from October 2019, a majority of Americans oppose anti-BDS laws; 72% opposed laws penalizing people who boycott Israel and 22% supported such laws. The poll also found a strong partisan divide on BDS; among those who had heard of BDS, 76% of Republicans opposed the movement, compared to 52% of Democrats.[8] In a 2019 poll from Data for Progress 35% to 27% opposed anti-BDS laws. Split by party affiliation, 48% of Democrats opposed anti-BDS laws and 15% supported them; 27% of Republicans opposed anti-BDS laws and 44% supported them. 70%-80% believed boycotts were a legitimate protest tactic.[9] According to a 2022 survey by the Pew Research Center, 5% of Americans support BDS and 84% do not know much about it. 17% of Republicans have some familiarity with BDS compared to 15% of Democrats, while 7% of the latter and 2% of Republicans support the movement.[10]
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Ananas, the laws you are talking about affect government contracts and entities, but, the public has access to the BDS and their political views. Bottom line? Israel and Palestine are now, and have been, in a state of war.
I know you have a narrow view of the freedoms we enjoy in this country, especially as to what’s available to us in the news. I believe you are confusing what the great unwashed of this country consider worthy of them to find out about with what is really available. That’s two different things.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 08:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So 35 states have passed anti-BDS laws, while the majority of Americans do not support them. What does that tell you about your democracy?
Even if most people supported anti-BDS laws, it would still not be OK to pass them, because BDS is free speech, which is protected by your Constitution. Is it OK to pass laws that are in conflict with the Constitution?

It that 'a narrow view of the freedoms you enjoy in your country'?

When politicians in my country try to pass laws that are in conflict with our Constitution, they are immediately pushed back by either the House of Representatives or the Senate or not immediately but later some judge.
We don't even need a Supreme Court to get that right.

You do have a Supreme Court, who's only job is testing laws against the Constitution. How can your country fuck up that responsibility so much?
By #610414 at 07,Nov,23 16:49
What does a majority have to do with how a legislative body votes? The majority of the people support abortion yet our super conservative Supreme Court reversed itself after half a century. We are a working democracy and that means that we have some guidelines to keep us on the road and the rest is a catch-as-catch-can free for all. What we want and what we get depends on whom we elect and that's something that sometimes leads us to use Depends underwear. In other words. We are similar to many other countries.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 20:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
In a democracy, the majority decides how a legislative body votes.
The people you elect are not doing what you want, but what their donors want.

Republicans made it even easier for themselves; they made their voters think they want what their donors want and they made them think what they get is what they want.
In short, the donors decide what you get. That's not democracy.

True, there are many other countries like that, but that doesn't make
it good. America once provided the best example for democracy.
You could do that again, but you got to have better standards for politicians. They should serve you and not just themselves.
By #610414 at 09,Nov,23 22:25
In a democracy the voters vote for the person's THEY THINK will vote for what they want. That is not the same as how a legislative body votes and the voters can complain and threaten not to reelect. That's it. Why would my country operate any different than another country? People are the same everywhere.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 22:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Democracy relies on more than just being allowed to vote.
It also relies on having choices for who to vote for
and accurate, objective information about those choices.

In a winner takes all system, like the US, the people are forced to vote for either one of the two corrupt parties, or their vote is meaningless. Since all your media is owned by big corporations who use it as their personal propaganda outlet, you are only getting told the truth, if they want you to know the truth and then they still always put their own spin on it.

That's why the US is ranked 36th by Quality of Democracy.
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You're followed by Cape Verde, Jamaica and Trinidad and Tobago.


By tecsan at 10,Nov,23 06:19 other posts of tecsan 
Confusing as hell. Anyone else confused with this BS?


Restoring democracy will happen when all the libs are ousted. You know that Ananas2xLekker.

BTW who the fuck cares what others think of us, we know you hate America as many other turds hate America.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Nov,23 11:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Then your only choice is which idiot Republican destroys the country.
How do you define democracy exactly? Sort of like Putin does?
By tecsan at 11,Nov,23 05:35 other posts of tecsan 
Damn sure not like you or biden.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Nov,23 10:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Which is; that the people elect their representatives, to act out
their principles on how the country needs to be organized?
By tecsan at 17,Nov,23 03:56 other posts of tecsan 
Yes if fucking libtards do not interfere. Think that says it all.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Nov,23 10:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You really don't understand democracy. Or you just hate it.












By phart at 05,Nov,23 13:05 other posts of phart 
reddit seems to be the only source of over 18 videos that may show the burned babies and such but since I am not a reddit member it keeps blurring things out after about a minute
you are a much more civilized person to talk with even when in total disagreement than Leo. But I will say the same thing I said to him. along with the criticism, share some solutions. Jerusalem is where Jesus was born, that land is holy to the jewish people. millions were slaughtered by hitler, a group of civilized countrys, made it so their holy land would legally be their home. IF you watch the videos I posted on another thread for leo, Truman explains the people that left the land, were COMPENSATED for it, it was NOT stolen.
The only thing holy to a muslim is having your blood all over themselves while laughing and chasing a goat for pleasure.









By tecsan at 19,Oct,23 05:39 other posts of tecsan 
Hamas has no justification and they know it and many Palestians know it also. Why are you defending terrorists Ananas2xLekker?
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Oct,23 08:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Hamas definitely has no justification to commit terrorism, that for sure.
Likewise, does Israel have no justification to commit terrorism.

The definition of terrorism is: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Many acts of Israel are terrorism, by definition.
Still, Israel has the right to defend itself.
Israel is allowed to attack Hamas terrorists.
But their level of 'collateral damage' is unacceptable.
It's you, who is defending terrorism, not me.

Also Palestine has the right to defend itself.
If they attack an Israeli military target, that's not terrorism.
Just as it wouldn't be terrorism if Israel targets JUST Hamas.
It's the percentage of innocent civilians getting killed, that makes it terrorism.
It's the methods and the results that define terrorism, not which side commits it.
By phart at 19,Oct,23 15:09 other posts of phart 
The people allow Hamas to rule over them,so they are essentially Hamas.
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Oct,23 16:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's clear now why your side would throw away democracy so easily;
you have no idea how good you have it. They don't have a choice.
Throwing away freedom is easy, getting it (back) is almost impossible.

Even Netanyahu supported Hamas, because Hamas assures him no peace.
Whenever Hamas kills his people, he is justified to keep stealing more land.
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By phart at 19,Oct,23 21:40 other posts of phart 
I think it was Cat that said to me when we were discussing the yankee's and how they treated the Southern citizens after the war was ended, to the victor go the spoils. If israel is willing to combat the threat,they deserve any damn thing they can get and keep.
I would rather no innocent people were hurt or killed,I would rather hamas had never attacked those folks at that shin dig and killed them.BUT hamas did and now they are reaping the harvest from the seeds of hate and violence they sown, They hopefully will get a bountiful crop, looks like about half the place is flat already.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Oct,23 07:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Since you lot are talking about it 150 years later, you don't agree
with your own concept of 'to the victor go the spoils'.
Just because that's often how war goes, doesn't mean it should be.
The traitors of your civil war were legitimately dealt with.
The south should have been under better control to not let racism brew,
but the citizens should have been protected and treated well.

There is however no parallel with the Israeli Palestine conflict, other than
who kills too many citizens as collateral damage is a war criminal.

"looks like about half the place is flat already."
Most likely! And then what? When the north of Gaza is flattened, push back all the Palestinians from the south back to the north and than flatten the south? Then all the Palestinians live among the rubble, even more dependent on Hamas to feed them and put a roof over their heads again. That wall is still there, Egypt and Libanon still don't allow them to leave.
It's either die, or support Hamas. With many of their children, spouses, family and friends having been killed by Israel, that sure is a hard choice, right?
I'm asking you; is that the intention?
By phart at 21,Oct,23 23:17 other posts of phart 
The palestinians can learn to live in peace among the israelies or they can get on a boat and go elsewhere.All the killing needs to stop and it started recently by hamas, their governing body, so it's their fault this mess started..
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 20:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Complete ignorance of reality. You cannot live in peace with people who don't accept your existence. Israel was founded as a Jewish state, they didn't intend to keep any Palestinians around. The only place for Palestinians was indeed to "get on a boat and go elsewhere". That's an injustice that should have been corrected by the rest of the world. But, mostly the US allowed Israel to be an apartheid regime. It's your fault this mess started.
By phart at 09,Nov,23 21:02 other posts of phart 
Let Ben explain it, he explains there are alot of muslims living in israel, so the idea they are not welcome is wrong.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 22:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I know, but as second class citizens, like black people in the US,
before Jim Crow.

Ben is already biassed on subjects that he doesn't care about.
How objective am I supposed to think he is on Israel, being Jewish?
He doesn't even consider the AIPAC to be the 'The Israel Lobby'.
The Daily Wire rakes in millions of dollars per large donor.
I have no idea what he really believes, because he gets paid
to believe whatever his donors want him to believe. He's a fraud!




By #610414 at 22,Oct,23 15:38
Ananas, two days after Israel was granted nation status, it was attacked by Arab countries. Since then they have under constant threat of war from all the countries around it. They had to fight several wars. I don’t blame them when they try to establish buffer zones. What I don’t comprehend, abhorrent as it is, is why they haven’t conquered the whole Middle East. I’m sure the USA and the UK would support them up to and including boots-on-ground.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 15:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, they are not living among people who like them.
But that's the consequence of stealing that land for themselves.
The Jews lived there for about 3000 years, but they lived together
with many other peoples and religions. People get upset,
if you kick them from their land and put your own flag on their land.
Is that so difficult to understand?

It's easier to kill all the natives when you conquer land, because then
they cannot bother you anymore. It's what your American ancestors did.
That's pretty bad though. Wouldn't it be a bit hypocritical, if the whole world
first united against Hitler, for exterminating 6 million Jews and then help those Jews to exterminate tens or hundreds of millions of Muslims, to clear out the whole Middle East, for themselves?

Besides, after WWII, there were about 3.8 million Jews left in the world.
That's not enough people to populate and protect the whole Middle East.
Israel was big enough for that population. It's just getting a bit small, now there are about 10 million of them. That's why they are stealing more land.
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 15:19
Palestine was a melting pot of religions and ethnic people. You said it best, "The Jews lived there for about 3000 yrs. This is what happened in the last century.
"Arab fears that Jews were attempting to seize control of Jerusalem's Wailing Wall in August 1929 caused a series of riots which left 133 Jews and 116 Arabs dead."
This was one more tic on the side of nationalization. The clincher was the 5,000,000+ Jews kIlled by the Nazis while other countries looked away.
They where willing to co-exist with other Arab people. Heck, in the nationalization Arabs were included.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 15:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They were not willing to co-exist with other Arab people.
Israel was clearly intended to be a Jewish nation state, and it turned
into an apartheid regime against Palestinians very quickly.
Don't take my word for it, read what Amnesty International writes about it.
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"Arab fears that Jews..." They feared correctly.
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 15:27
But, do you blame them? After all the times from the inception of the state of Israel, they've been under attack.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 15:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Yes, I blame them. They have never worked towards a two state solution.
They have been under attack, because they have never stopped attacking.

It's like if you cut the tires of your neighbors car every night
and then go crying if he kicks your ass one day, when he caught you.
And then you kill him, his family, his friends and all his colleagues.
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 15:36
Really, Ananas? Come on.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 15:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If that is your answer, you know you have no arguments.

Another example then. I'm sure you heard of the IRA in Ireland?
They did some horrible terrorist attacks and killed children too.
So was it OK if Ireland then bombed the whole of Belfast to rubble?

Or how about if some gangsters from the Bronx kill the owner, his wife and the stock clerk of a 7/11. Is it now OK, to bomb the whole 'hood'?
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 15:44
I've never cut my neighbor's tires, but, if you mean the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, then, There's no more to say.

Oct 11 (Reuters) - The fighting between Israel and Hamas, which launched a surprise attack on Saturday, is the latest in seven decades of war and conflict between Israelis and Palestinians that has drawn in outside powers and destabilized the wider Middle East.

you are not going to pull a "Trump" fake news, now, are you?
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 15:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"but, if you mean the Israeli/Palestinian conflict, then,"
Of course, it's an analogy. Just like the other two examples.

Do you think it's not a fair analogy? If not, why not?
Have you seen what happens in Gaza now?
Do they show you or is it censored in the US?
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 15:56
It's on every news and talk show every day. If you mean the utter devastation caused by the continual Israeli bombing, showing the dead and maimed Palestinians, yes. It's not censored but not explicit. We don't need to see human insides on the pavement. Look, I understand what you are trying to say, but, in this case, I stand with Israel.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 17:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Israel is allowed to defend itself, but not like this.
I do not pick sides, when both sides are doing evil.
I just want the killing and suffering to end.

What do you see as the outcome of this? Does this solve anything?
Is this allowing Israel to administer revenge, until they feel satisfied?
Is leveling Gaza going to prevent future attacks? For how long?
Don't you think Hamas will be back with a vengeance in a few years?
And then what, do it all over again?
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 18:30
No, it won't solve anything. These people have been at each other's throats for too long. Only Israel can say when they will stop. The pain and suffering of the innocents is heartbreaking......on both sides.
Yes, Hamas will return or some like group. Sometimes, people look at the near future only. In this case, I believe Israel reached a point where it wants some tranquility. You have to admit that it doesn't matter who threw the first punch long ago. The problem is with the present.
History does tend to repeat itself.
By phart at 24,Oct,23 23:40 other posts of phart 
Israel has not conquered the middle east because every damn time they get hit with terrorist attacks the rest of the world keeps holding them back, telling thm to act rationally;proportianionly, as in tit for tat,
It is past time to let Israel do what needs to be done to END the violence. If the muslims aint got no more sense than to side with hamas or hazbrola or some other nit shit terrorist group, then blow them to hell.
By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 00:51
With reasonable care
By phart at 25,Oct,23 13:34 other posts of phart 
Flying in on hang gliders with machine guns on the 7th to a party wasn't with reasonable care was it?
there are times that call for dealing with a problem once and for all, and this is 1 of them. Problems with israel have been going on for decades,time to end it so the world can get on with fixing other problems.
the aid being sent there could be going elsewhere to folks who need it that didn't kill their way into the situation they are in.
By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 13:50
I do understand what you are saying, but, someone has to be the better man.
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Hamas is a horrible organization. Israel is not.

By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Oct,23 09:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"time to end it"
Which means bombing or starving 2 million people to death?
I would like this to end too, but not in a Holocaust.

The realistic solution would be to force Egypt to take in ALL Palestinians as refugees and then let Israel take the whole Gaza strip. That would be less of a crime against humanity than flattening Gaza and then keep te surviving population starving among the rubble. You are literally asking Israel to starve every last person in Gaza. That would make them worse than anything any terrorist has ever done. It's even worse than Hitler's gas chambers. Do you really want the US to be complicit in that?

However, I don't think Netanyahu will end Gaza or Hamas.
He needs both Gaza and especially Hamas, to justify his killing and stealing the rest of the West bank.
Just like he propped up Hamas before, he will do it again, so Hamas can start bombing Israeli's again ASAP, and then Netanyahu can rinse and repeat this over and over and over, while stealing the rest of the West bank.

You are being horrible to support genocide.
And you are a dumb-ass to think Israel wants to solve anything.
By #610414 at 26,Oct,23 17:07
You are blaming us for the actions of the Egyptians. We would help with
The cost and logistics.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Oct,23 13:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm blaming the US first, because the US funds and arms Israel and Israel made a deal with Egypt to not accept Palestinians. Egypt doesn't want to either, because no one wants to accept Palestinians. Still, the US could force all parties involved to fully evacuate the Gaza strip. Let all those oil states take care of those Palestinians. They keep sending Hamas weapons and the US keeps selling them weapons. How about you ask them something back for your 'friendship'?

The US funds and arms Egypt too. Don't you find it incredibly strange how much your presidents cuck themselves to Israel? YOU PAY THEM and arm them and they get cocky with you.

You know why both Trump and Biden suck up to Netanyahu? Because there are lots of Pro-Israel Super-PACs giving contributions to the candidates of both parties. A lot of them aren't even Jews or Israelis, they are Christian conservative fundamentalists, who see Israel as important to their religion.

Those Christian fundamentalists are the same people who fill your politics and your airwaves with pro-Israel propaganda.
I'm not affected by that propaganda, because our politics isn't as muddled by campaign contributions and because we don't have that many Christian fundamentalists muddling in our politics and our media. Neither Israel nor Palestine mean anything to me. They are just two cultures fighting to live on the same plot of dust and rocks. I see one culture being sneaky bastards and constantly being dicks tot the other culture and I see the other culture lashing out in horrible hatred and violence, which is then answered with faux indignation and 10 times the violence.
There is no good vs bad, it's only and all fucking evil shit.

And what I find mostly ridiculous, is how people can think that there is an all-powerful, omniscient, and all-benevolent god in control of this all. There are three major religions involved and I see nothing but evil, petty, human stupidity at work.
By #610414 at 27,Oct,23 14:24
Baby, that’s the MONEY that talks….and maybe, the religious nuts
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Oct,23 14:28 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Honey, we really agree on that.







By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Oct,23 13:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Israel hasn't conquered the Middle East, because 10 million people cannot win in a war against 400 million people.
That's like my country trying to conquer all the rest of Europe.

Israel has a pretty strong defense force, but Pakistan, Turkey, Egypt and Iran are stronger.
By phart at 25,Oct,23 13:35 other posts of phart 
it's not the numbers, if your theory was true,ukraine would be under russian rule already.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Oct,23 14:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If Ukraine didn't get massive military aid, they would be.
The attacking force always requires more soldiers and more weapons to make a dent against the defending force.
OK, Ukraine is still standing, but what chance do you think Ukraine would have had, when they had attacked Russia?


By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 13:59
The traffic cop (the US) wouldn’t allow it, but, let me remind you that Nazi Germany had about 80 million when they conquered Europe and other areas. Israel has the advantage of a very strong military and weapons of mass destruction.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Oct,23 14:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Pakistan has nuclear weapons too. More than Israel.
They could protect an Islamic ally.

Which countries could Israel conquer or be allowed to conquer realistically? Maybe Lebanon and Syria, because those countries are not really friends of the West. The West would not allow Israel to attack Jordan and Egypt. The other Muslim countries are behind those other countries. If Israel would want to attack Iraq or Iran, they would be at war with all the other Muslim countries too. Israel is very small. Sure, they have a strong military, but the combined force of the other Middle Eastern countries can wipe them off the map in no time. Those nukes are useless. If they use them, they start a nuclear war and get obliterated instantly. It only takes a few nukes to end Israel, but it takes many to end all those Middle Eastern countries. The US is not going to back them up. That's not being a traffic cop, that's protecting your own oil interests.
By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 15:17
What’s in it for me?
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Oct,23 16:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Maybe it doesn't always feel like it to you, but you got
very cheap fuel prices. I still pay $7.77/gallon for Euro95,
and that's at the cheapest gas station in the area.
Don't you pay less than half that?
By phart at 25,Oct,23 16:36 other posts of phart 
That high cost is in part because the suppliers know you are at their mercy.We have our own as a country if they charge us to much.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Oct,23 09:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
True, lucky you. But your oil comes at a high price too.
What is left can only be extracted by fracking.
This is destroying your dwindling water sources.
You're sacrificing your agriculture and health, for oil.

That's why alternative energy isn't just the smart thing
to do to reduce climate change. It also reduces pollution.
And it reduces our dependency on horrible tyrannical regimes, like Saudi Arabia and Russia.


By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 19:52
Right now I pay $3.02 US/gallon at a BJ'S wholesale club store.
By #681164 at 04,Nov,23 16:32
It’s now $2.92/gal at BJ’s
By tecsan at 05,Nov,23 06:52 other posts of tecsan 
You both have it better than me biden gasoline is 2.69 at my nearest place to purchase it.
By #610414 at 05,Nov,23 15:26
???

By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 09:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
For those prices, I have to go at least 25-30 years back in time.



































By tecsan at 27,Nov,23 05:11 other posts of tecsan 
Just a test...Was Jesus Christ a male or female?...Just a test
By phart at 27,Nov,23 19:00 other posts of phart 
The book refers to him as a HE,As Gods SON, so God and his Son, are male.But what may be in question to some, Is the Holy Spirit male or female? Because it has no body?
Would it's mindset ,attitudes ,actions, define it? Or would The Holy Spirit be gender neutral?
By tecsan at 28,Nov,23 05:32 other posts of tecsan 
I know how he is referred to, BUT did anyone ever ask the pronoun it preferred. Maybe libtards never thought of it. Let's not give them another woke idea.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 08:17 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If Jesus lived in our time, he would be a socialist wokester, and join Greenpeace.

Everything in the bible describes Jesus as a person who respected people for who they are. His character is obviously described as a man, identifying as a man. But, he could be expected to adopt gender-neutral pronouns, purely out of support for a subjugated group of people.

Jesus spoke a Galilean dialect of Aramaic. "The lack of specific feminine forms for the pronouns is also found in Biblical Aramaic, which has different forms for third person singular (hu versus hi), but not always for the plural,53 and the second person feminine singular does not exist at all (Quimron 1993: 65)."

God is described in the bible as making Adam in his image.
However, most Christians describe God as a being outside of time and space.
How and why would such a being have a human body with a dick&balls?
By tecsan at 28,Nov,23 08:37 other posts of tecsan 
You are the smart one here so tell me?

But you were not in Jesus's head, maybe he wanted to be female. And maybe he secretly identified as female.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 11:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, maybe he wore female clothes and had prostitutes bone his ass.
It's also very much possible that he was gay, if you read the stories.

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The fact is, that the first letter of his stories were written decades after he died.
It's possible that Jesus is completely fictional or based on several different people, living in that time period. There is no evidence that he ever existed, besides what's written about such a character in the bible. Different people wrote similar but different stories about the Jesus character, but it's clear that they were copying each other. There are lots of similar stories, about similar people, originating from earlier and other cultures, that are clearly mythical. There might have been some carpenter's son, walking around telling stories and performing rudimentary healthcare, that would have been miraculous in that time. Add a few decades and stories get mixed and exaggerated. Religions have been started over less. It is no evidence of anything supernatural ever happening and no reason to base your morality on the morality
of Jews from 2 millennia ago.
By Sir-Skittles at 25,Dec,23 20:45 other posts of Sir-Skittles 
Jesus would be a male, would be in a union, drive a pick up, like beer and guns. He would hate libs!

By tecsan at 27,Dec,23 07:48 other posts of tecsan 
No crap. Doubt he was a lib. Probably gave the libs another idea though.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Dec,23 09:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Jesus was not just a lib, he was a lefty pacifist.

Before you start rambling that the next pieces are a copy-paste job; yes it is. It would be easy for you to find the source. It's called the Bible. I don't have one, but if you have one, go ahead and double check if it's in there.
The comments on Jesus' words are also not mine. You say you can use Google, so I'm sure you can find it.

“Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.” [Matthew 25:41-43 KJV]
Jesus says that on Judgment Day, He will look askance at people who refused to help those less fortunate than themselves. Not only that, Jesus Christ will curse them and cast them away “into everlasting fire.”

“For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.” [Matthew 25:34-40 KJV]
Jesus Christ’s views on feeding, clothing, and helping people in need is unequivocal: He sees it as directly serving Him.

“Come unto me, all ye that labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.” [Matthew: 11:28 KJV]
Jesus Christ sympathized with those who work day-to-day to scrape by, and preached that they would get their reward. Meanwhile, Republicans refuse to even consider raising the minimum wage to keep up with the cost of living.

“For unto whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more.” [Luke 12:48 KJV]
That means; If you have much, we will expect much from you.
In other words: Tax the rich!

“And he said, Woe unto you also, ye lawyers! for ye lade men with burdens grievous to be borne, and ye yourselves touch not the burdens with one of your fingers.” [Luke 11:46 KJV]
That's condemning lawmakers, for passing laws and promoting policies that make things harder for most of your fellow Americans.

“But Jesus said unto them, They need not depart; give ye them to eat.” [Matthew 14:16 KJV]
Jesus Christ always wanted to feed people and extend hospitality to strangers, no matter what their circumstances. Yet, conservative, so-called “Christians” seek to cut back on food stamps and deport immigrants — or bar them from entry.

“And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.” [Matthew 6:5 KJV]
Conservative Christians claim to love Jesus, and seem to adore shouting their faith from atop their soap boxes any chance they get. But the real Jesus Christ scorned these showy – and often phony – displays of piety, and went out of his way to preach against them.

Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.” [Matthew 22:37-40 KJV]

When Jesus Christ’s adoring crowds asked which of the 10 Commandments are the most important ones for them to follow, Jesus turned around and changed the rules. He said that if we first love God, and then love our neighbor, the rest would follow naturally. It’s hard to see how denying gays the right to marry and cutting anti-poverty programs follows Jesus’ teachings. Yet, our conservative “Christian” lawmakers insist this is what we should do.

“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” [Matthew 19:24 KJV]

If you’ve got any doubt about how Jesus Christ would feel about income inequality, the Supreme Court’s Citizens United ruling, or rich CEOs raking in huge profits while crusading against a long-overdue minimum wage hike, this passage makes it pretty clear that making profits at other people’s expense gives you bad karma in the Great Beyond.

“And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money sitting: And when he had made a scourge of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers’ money, and overthrew the tables; And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.” [John 2:14-16 KJV]
Unlike your Mammon-worshipping conservative Christians, Jesus Christ clearly loathes capitalism. Pretty much the only time we ever see Jesus totally lose his cool and go into an Incredible Hulk-like rage is when he returns to Jerusalem with his disciples, and finds the Temple clogged with bankers and vendors. He doesn’t just yell at them, He totally goes apeshit, wrecks their booths, and drives them out with whips He somehow manages to improvise and fashion on the spur of the moment. One can only imagine how Jesus would feel about Wall Street, the Koch brothers, and ALEC.

“Then Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.” [Matthew 9:35]
FREE HEALTHCARE FOR ALL!!

“He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.” [John 8:7 KJV]
Unlike today’s conservative Christians, who eagerly serve in the vanguard of the GOP’s war on women, Jesus Christ has no regard for double standards that hold men and women to different rules.

“Behold the fowls of the air: for they sow not, neither do they reap, nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feedeth them. Are ye not much better than they?” [Matthew 6:26]
If the previous quotes make Jesus Christ sound mildly liberal, this one makes 'Our Savior' sound like a 'Goddamned hippie COMMUNIST'.


Before you try to flip all of the things Jesus said, think of who you are doing it for. I'm an atheist, I don't give a fuck. However, if you have some belief that you will be judged after your die, better be sure about how you are quoting, the one that you think will judge YOU.


By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Dec,23 08:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's you identifying with Jesus and than thinking he would identify with you.

“You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth. ' But I tell you, do not resist an evil person. If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also” (Matthew 5:38-39).

Is that something you would say?
Is that something what a gun lover would say?
Or is that something a pacifist would say?

By boc at 21,May,24 16:11 other posts of boc 
Most non union conservatives are anti union. So if Jesus was a Maga conservative he most likely would not be in a union.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,24 16:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
IF..., but Jesus was obviously a pacifist hippie.

He gave food to the hungry and free healthcare to the sick.
And he kicked over the the tables of loan sharks on the temple square.
"turn the other cheek", "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

Definitely a socialist and not a MAGA conservative.
By boc at 21,May,24 17:29 other posts of boc 
There are disparate examples of the philosophy of life that Jesus proposed. Yes, in many cases he was all about standing up for the underdog. And I would say it's a weird juxtaposition of what is considered the underdog. Many Christians love to identify with a sort of persecution complex. This is exactly why so many Christians identify with Trump. He sets himself up as the underdog, as illogical as that might be. Most folks don't investigate the dynamics comprehensively, nor do they have the critical thinking skills to object to his claims.

It took a while for the tide to change but in the 60s the undercurrent of what is considered the prevailing culture began to shift. It took a while for the momentum to reach what it did around the turn of the century, but somewhere along the line those that use to be marginalized by the prevailing culture moved into a position where they were setting policy. For the others, who subscribe to the glorification of anything atavistic, and are nostalgic for a time when the US seemed to be in an age of innocence, the 50s, this shift met with reenforced reticence and even outright violent opposition.

This recent shift in cultural priorities during the 21st century produced contempt, especially in rural areas, for this progressive current which became a prevailing cultural force in urban areas.

However, those who glorify atavism and those for whom nostalgia worsens their feelings of abandonment by the state are not confined to rural areas. It's just the tendency of people in such areas. Urban areas condition people towards regulation which manages the impact on nature. As well as increasing exposure to multiculturalism.





By #610414 at 14,Feb,24 14:04
Religions have been around 3500 yrs or so. One wonders why, in the history of the world, mankind needed to saddle itself with beliefs that have caused so much pain and suffering, not to mention the millions upon millions of deaths.
I don’t care if Jesus had a pair or a slit. The man was a good man/woman, and, if we Christians, want to emulate him, that is a good thing. What we don’t need is for one group of Christians telling another group of Christians how to believe.
This question comes as close to being a “woke” question from an anti-woke member of “That” section of Christianity. 👿
By boc at 21,May,24 16:25 other posts of boc 
There are a variety of reasons why religions (specifically theistic religions) have endured.

1.) Mainly because they offer fellowship.

2.) People prefer certainty over accuracy, even when certainty cannot be achieved.

3.) Our childhood experiences predispose us to uncritical approval of those we see as authoritative.

4.) Most people have neither the time nor the resources to research any claim to its most fundamental source as well as all the intersecting social phenomena.

There are more reasons than this, but these are the most common.



By phart at 21,May,24 18:38 other posts of phart 
such a being could happen because of inbreeding.
2 people, then a entire world ,to close a relatives.
In animals this makes for weak, deformed creatures.

Who was Cain's wife in the Bible?
Awan. According to the Book of Jubilees, Awan (also Avan or Aven, from Hebrew אָוֶן aven "vice", "iniquity", "potency") was the wife and sister of Cain and the daughter of Adam and Eve.






By tecsan at 14,Feb,24 09:04 other posts of tecsan 
BLM, what a fucking joke!
By #610414 at 14,Feb,24 14:06
Bitches Like Marjorie?
By tecsan at 20,May,24 05:26 other posts of tecsan 
Damn right over that slut AOC any day.




By #692872 at 27,May,23 10:15
I love big black dick black men have the biggest dicks that facts and they can fuck all nigth I am a white sissy slut whore loves getting gang raped by groups of black men
By #610414 at 27,May,23 19:30
Depends on the guy. My Gerome did have a big one. He was great in bed. He was gentle. He could not go all night.
By tecsan at 29,May,23 05:47 other posts of tecsan 
Gang raped???
By #610414 at 29,May,23 12:17
Never, but, it depends on the definition. We used to be swingers and belonged to club. There were frequent parties that I did have more than a few cocks.👏👏
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Sounds interesting, I guess. Not for me. Still has about the same meaning.



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By phart at 17,Dec,23 15:20 other posts of phart 
Woke

"adj"

a state of awareness only achieved by those dumb enough to find injustice in everything except their own behavior.
By tecsan at 18,Dec,23 04:11 other posts of tecsan 
Guess I am still asleep. Definitely not 'WOKE'.

By #610414 at 22,Dec,23 03:11
Woke is an adjective derived from African-American Vernacular English meaning "alert to racial prejudice and discrimination". Beginning in the 2010s, it came to encompass a broader awareness of social inequalities such as racial injustice, sexism, and denial of LGBT rights. Wikipedia

The right desperately want to change the meaning trying to push back on the fact that the right is racist and misogynistic.
By tecsan at 22,Dec,23 04:42 other posts of tecsan 
The left are desperately trying to keep Trump off the ballot. I wonder why? Hell, let me vote for him if I want. That is the democratic way. I think maybe joey should be blocked from the ballot in TX if and that is a big 'IF' the SCOTUS does not reverse the CO BS. The only discrimination I see is coming from the left. I do believe that the libtards hate immigrants or they would stop the BS. Look at the deaths associated with little joey's open border policy. Feel free to google it.
By phart at 22,Dec,23 04:57 other posts of phart 
All jokes aside ,until Trump is proven guilty and used all his appeals, he is presumed innocent in a court of law.At least that's what liberals say when it's their guy on the chopping block, Democrats are treating Trump with the wrong approach, Trump is guilty until proven innocent and they still don't want to believe it.
There fore I can NOT for the life of me see how a state can take control of who is on a ballot for a FEDERAL position and use the so-called insurrection as a reason.
By tecsan at 22,Dec,23 06:23 other posts of tecsan 
It will come back to haunt them. What are all those people doing crossing our border? Maybe some are here as terrorists or to cause an insurrection. I love that word 'INSURRECTION' it is the liberals new holiday. Jan 6 insurrection day, bet that makes them all have an orgasm. Bet most of them never heard the word insurrection before the Hollywood produced Jan 6 hearings. Hey, atleast they learned a new word. May be good or bad. I will wait and see.






By phart at 16,Dec,23 18:19 other posts of phart 
Here is the reality of the blm type,woke movement.
Face book employee frauds people out of 4 million bucks!
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By tecsan at 17,Dec,23 05:16 other posts of tecsan 
Anything dealing with blm or 'WOKE' (whatever that even means) does not surprise me.



By tecsan at 09,Dec,23 08:04 other posts of tecsan 
Bet the Harvard pres, the upenn pres and the MIT pres could have defended BLM. Let us see what happens to they're sorry asses. But none of the three WOULD defend Jews, how pathetic this Country has become. Hope they all lose massive donars.
By phart at 09,Dec,23 13:40 other posts of phart 
the sad thing is, there are folks like the Leo of this webpage that would step and donate because they approve of what the pres's are doing.
By tecsan at 10,Dec,23 10:03 other posts of tecsan 
I know, but remember you may have family members like that and you still love them. I do.




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By tecsan at 26,Nov,23 08:28 other posts of tecsan 
Jew lives matter also. Palestinians should of thought about that phrase before electing Hamas. Yes, I know 44% is not a majority but close. It counts in the US too, or joey would not be president.


By tecsan at 16,Nov,23 05:11 other posts of tecsan 
BLM needs your money.


By #700631 at 01,Nov,23 13:57
Are we talking about the organisation Black Lives Matter here or the sentiment "black lives matter"?

If it's the former, I have no knowledge or opinion about the organisation. But "All Lives Matter" is not an organisation, so if it is the former, the question doesn't really make sense.

If it's the latter, the saying clearly means "black lives matter as much as white lives". Does anyone here disagree with this sentiment?
By #681164 at 01,Nov,23 15:12
Your statement is correct. I would change it slightly. Black lives matter as much as any other race or ethnic group. The question’s ending is “do all lives matter”.



By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 12:24
Dgraff used to get poked by a young Puerto Rican guy. Now, his new wife PEGS him.🤣🤣😈
By dgraff at 24,Oct,23 14:00 other posts of dgraff 
I bet you got your husband many of ass beatings over the years because you just don’t know when to keep your big mouth shut 🤐 miss I’m more important than any one else
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 14:04
I bet you got your wife (sic) many of ass beatings over the years because you just don’t know when to keep your big sissy mouth shut 🤐 Mr, I’m more important than you.
Dgraff, remember, you started this.👿
By phart at 24,Oct,23 14:11 other posts of phart 
Well it don't have to continue.
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 14:16
I’m not the “better man” here. HAHAHA.🤣🤣🤣😈
By phart at 25,Oct,23 13:35 other posts of phart 
Well you are a woman but that does not mean you can't take the high road. focus some of this anger to fixing a real problem
By #610414 at 25,Oct,23 14:03
It’s not a “either this problem or that problem”. I can “Bring home the bacon, cook it in a pan, and never, never forget. I’m a woman”








By tecsan at 21,Sep,23 05:21 other posts of tecsan 
Please donate to BLM. We need more libs to waste their money.
By phart at 21,Sep,23 18:31 other posts of phart 
eh, I would rather roll my money up and shove it up a bulls ass than to give that bunch of domestic terrorist the time of day.
By tecsan at 22,Sep,23 08:53 other posts of tecsan 
Damn, you really dislike that blm crap as much as me. However, I think I will stay clear of the bull. Them critters will kill you.
By phart at 22,Sep,23 16:22 other posts of phart 
Neighbors bull is shoulder height with me and docile as a lamb. feed him cabbage and stuff from my hand.
By tecsan at 23,Sep,23 05:12 other posts of tecsan 
Take your word for it until I see you feeding it.
By phart at 23,Sep,23 15:03 other posts of phart 
cows are not violent animals. unless you mess with their calves, same as any parent.
By tecsan at 24,Sep,23 01:00 other posts of tecsan 
I thought we were talking about bulls.
By phart at 24,Sep,23 02:14 other posts of phart 
Well cows,oops the female. Perhaps I should just say Bovines?
By tecsan at 25,Sep,23 06:02 other posts of tecsan 
Ok, very funny.

By #610414 at 22,Oct,23 15:39
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By Ananas2xLekker at 21,Sep,23 18:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I think Trump needs it more right now.
By phart at 22,Sep,23 01:20 other posts of phart 
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By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Oct,23 08:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Just the title by itself shows incredible bias, not real journalism.
By phart at 19,Oct,23 15:08 other posts of phart 
BUT it gets the point across.
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Oct,23 16:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, you want your propaganda to be effective.
By phart at 19,Oct,23 21:34 other posts of phart 
blm is not a good organization, if anything good is said of them,that would be the propaganda. They took millions of dollars in donations and bought houses for themselves and never helped the familys of the fallen blacks they staged riots and burned and looted over.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Oct,23 08:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If there was a better organization who supported the goals,
then everyone would surely be happy to support it.

Here's a novel idea; implement the goals.
Why does it require endless protesting to do something?
Are the riots not just a justification for you to say 'fuck you!'?

Are the demands so outrageous?
Or is it now just stubbornness, to not 'give THEM anything'?

By #610414 at 22,Oct,23 15:42
I think Blacks should start an organization where the members wear black robes and hoods, burn black tarred crosses in yards and open fields and have chapters in different cities. Make it guns optional but recommended. 🤣🤣😈
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Oct,23 10:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Except for the burning of tarred crosses, you come close to describing
The Black Panthers, I think. Black clothes, different kind of 'hoods',
but also very much supporting the 2nd amendment.
By #610414 at 24,Oct,23 12:24
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By tecsan at 09,Sep,23 04:44 other posts of tecsan 
One for all to enjoy and comment.

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Cheating wife, hung her self instead of taking responsibility.
DUH.


By tecsan at 28,Sep,23 08:01 other posts of tecsan 
Bidenomics or BLMomics. Whow, he is an arrogant racist sob.

Not to mention has no ethics either.

I guess if it makes a 'buck' then it is fair to the *%*#@!& party.

Where the hell is 'cornpop' when we need him?


By Ananas2xLekker at 21,Aug,23 09:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Billionaires Secretly Funding Racism EXPOSED
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The writer of the book focused on just 10 billionaires, donating to 50 organizations, that were instrumental in pushing an agenda of institutionalized racism and crushing the public school system. That was 3.2 billion dollars that he was able to trace.

Why do wealthy people want to crush public schools?
Are they thinking private schools are better?
Are they just not willing to pay taxes for public schools?
Are they against poor people getting a good education?
Are they not dependent on smart people working for their companies?
Are they against American being smart, to understand how they get screwed?
By tecsan at 22,Aug,23 03:00 other posts of tecsan 
George Soros funding DA's that support no bail and the opposite if the violator is a Republican.
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Aug,23 14:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So you really think Soros has the time to follow all legal cases?
That's of course nonsense. Billionaires fund organizations and politicians
they agree with and then they go do the work for them.
Mostly it comes down to legislation and funding decisions.
Shutting down schools in black areas hurts black people, but you too.
Do you prefer black people to be educated or turn into criminals?

The president appoints the judges. Trump appoints his 'beautiful conservative' corporate minded judges and Biden appoints a bit more liberal judges.
If you are in a legal dispute against some company that is crushing you,
you can be sure you want one of Biden's judges, because any of Trump's judges
will always speak out in favor of any company over any working class civilian,
no matter how much the law agrees with you.
By tecsan at 23,Aug,23 02:59 other posts of tecsan 
Criminal, I will take mr magoo's appointee, NO BAIL.

Civil, I will take the Trump appointee, atleast they have common sense and know the difference between a man and a woman.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Aug,23 10:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Depends what crime you committed, to be better off with a Trump appointee or a Biden appointee. If you stole a car, better get the Biden appointee. If you are rich and defrauded poor people or the tax-payer, better get the Trump appointee.

If you think you can win in civil court against a company that screwed you, out of money or your house or your health, with a Trump appointee, you're very much confused.
But, you might think of getting sued by someone you discriminated, sure then you are better off with a Trump appointee.
They indeed prioritize your kind of 'common sense' over the actual LAW.
By tecsan at 25,Aug,23 08:05 other posts of tecsan 
Think about what you just said Ananas2xLekker

Talk about defrauding the poor tax paying people, what do you consider witholding millions unless you comply with my demands. Son of a bitch, you are a disgraceful biden.

It takes a sorry son of a bitch to ignore his own grand
daughter. What a moron.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Aug,23 10:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"witholding millions unless you comply with my demands"
Can you clarify what you are talking about?
Are you referring to Trump, withholding congressionally approved military aid
to Ukraine, to help himself, which is actually against the law?

When your son hasn't acknowledged his daughter yet, any father would wait until his son is ready to come out with it.
When you are the president, you first wait for evidence.
There are always people that try to discredit their family.
Now the evidence is in and Hunter accepted it, Joe does too.
By tecsan at 26,Aug,23 03:32 other posts of tecsan 
Ananas2xLekker you damn well know what I am talking about, now stop playing dumb. Atleast I do not think you are dumb.

Biden with-holding tax payer money from Ukraine until a prosecutor is fired. Hell, everyone here can see it, I guess you are playing the part of the ostrich.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Aug,23 14:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That has been already debunked in 2020.
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But, if there is evidence Biden broke the law, present it to the courts and wait until after his presidency to start the indictments. It's your own site that claims that the law cannot indict a sitting president.
Or indict and try to convict Biden now, so he can pardon himself, which is what your side thinks a president should be able to do.






By phart at 24,Aug,23 13:26 other posts of phart 
soros has a large organization that takes care of things for him.He has put his ill gotten fortune into it to insure it is a cancerous tumor on the earth long after his old ass is dead and gone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Aug,23 10:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"his ill gotten fortune" I agree, but you only care about his "ill gotten fortune" because he's a donor to the Democrats. Any Republican donor who does the same or worse, you think is a smart businessman. That's what you also said about that twice impeached, four times indicted, failed president of yours, while he actually committed many crimes as a businessman. What Soros did (and probably still does) is immoral, but not illegal.

By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,23 06:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Does your media even tell you how your political candidates become so rich?
Or do they only care how much they suck up to Trump?

Vivek Ramasmarmy made his billion dollars by investing in and hyping a scam biotech pharmaceutical product. His company Roivant Sciences is described as having a "business strategy, which involves buying patents from pharmaceutical companies, further developing the patented drugs, and bringing the finished drugs to market.".
I know how that works. Those companies are developing shit. They are just gaining the system, taking government funded ideas for pharmaceuticals and then hyping them, marketing them, and then walk away with billions. Sometimes those drugs are useful, but most newly developed drugs fail their clinical trials.
Companies like his', take billions of tax-dollars and more billions of the industry, only making the development of drugs more expensive for the tax-payer and the final products more expensive for patients.
He bought up the Alzheimer’s treatment Intepirdine, developed by the biotech startup Axovant Sciences, raised $315 million, before starting clinical trials, probably for a large part from Alzheimer's Foundation donations, ballooned the business value to
$3 billion, then sold his shares, and then the drug failed the trials. He's just a leech.

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By phart at 30,Aug,23 15:28 other posts of phart 
Not his fault it failed the trials, and what was the reason for the failure?
Alot of liberals make money shitting people, He at least made his money doing something.
you call it hyping, most Entrepeneur's call it promoting. That is what investors do ,that is how our retirement systems are funded, by investments.
What has biden done besides be a career politician and a life guard that had little girls rub the hair on his legs?
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,Aug,23 17:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
His fault is making money from hyping it.
I also condemn liberals when they make money by scamming people,
you just condemn liberals when they do something immoral,
but you defend any right-winger, no matter what they do.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 20:48 other posts of phart 
It's not hypeing, it's PROMOTION. It is what is done in advertising everything from prostitutes to jet airplanes, if you are trying to sell your service or your product you promote it.
Why aren't you condemning Soro's? He bankrupted nations for crying out loud,

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Why has George Soros purchased news outlets throughout America? Living in Hungary during WWII, he learned controlling the media controls the people.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Sep,23 12:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
PROMOTION of pharmaceuticals is BULLSHIT. When a pharmaceutical product works, you inform doctors and they will subscribe it to the patients that need them.

Guys like Ramasmarmy are just jacking up the price of the process.
Just like land speculators, profiting over what should be public capital.

The research and development of new medical treatments is mostly publicly funded, but that is turned into private profits for scammers like Ramasmarmy
and his ilk, who don't contribute anything. It's just socialism for the rich.

I think we agree that we don't want parasites profiting of taxes.
However, your get indoctrinated to think it's the 'obese milkin' welfare',
to distract you that guys like Ramasmarmy make billions of your tax-dollars
and charity donations, without doing anything useful.




By tecsan at 31,Aug,23 05:46 other posts of tecsan 
You know what would be nice Ananas2xLekker is if the media would tell us how sleepy uncle joey became so rich.

It has been exposed for the corrupt person it is.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 17:35 other posts of phart 
Most any politician seems to become rich when they go in.
BUT AOC for example, claims to only been a bartender before getting her position. I would say she probably fucked her way to where she is,She is not hard to look at until she starts talking.
Alot of others are so rich,way to rich to be getting that way off their salary's alone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,Aug,23 17:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
AOC was helped into politics by the Justice Democrats.
They saw her as a political talent and pulled her in.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 20:52 other posts of phart 
They must have been drunk and looking thru the beer bottle with a hard on.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Sep,23 15:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The way you lot are so concerned about her, proves she was a great choice.
By phart at 05,Sep,23 17:23 other posts of phart 
Our concern is because she is to fucking dumb to be where she is.Regardless of party.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 15:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Dumb? Your party has Marjorie Taylor Greene and Lauren Boebert!!
Lauren Boebert literally was a prostitute!
By phart at 07,Sep,23 16:03 other posts of phart 
well if boeboert was a prostitute, that means she can sell, what you should be able to get for free, so good business sense,
Greene, I am just glad she is republican and not democrat,they would put her for president!
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Sep,23 07:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Hypocrisy just flies over you, doesn't it?
If it's a white woman who enriches herself through her political position,
who was literally a prostitute, then she has good business sense,
but if it's a woman of Mexican decent, who was identified as a strong debater,
and therefore got offered a political position, then she must be a prostitute,
because, to you, obviously she has no right to be in politics.

Republicans like them crazy, it's their brand now.
Most Democrats like weak losers. Only progressives liked AOC.
Because she is/was a working class fighter for the working class.
Something Republicans masquerade to care about, but always
get unmasked over.







By tecsan at 04,Sep,23 01:23 other posts of tecsan 
No doubt AOC whored her way into her position. Oops, I messed up, I do not know if it identifies as a she, a leaf or possibly a bitch.

You are so right about the talking part, that just shows the ugly nasty person it is. Remember it whining about not having enough money for rent. I bet there are millions of people that wished they had it's salary and benefits. Poor little thing has to live in poverty. It should resign and go back to being a poor bartender. Yeah, I mean poor, probably did not get many tips spewing it's BS.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 16:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
IT?
The correct gender-neutral pronouns are they/them, thank you.

The only reason you have, to dislike her is that she makes a politician's income?
Why just her? All Democratic politicians make that income too.
And why not Republicans? They are not even satisfied with that income.
That's why they are all using their job to benefit themselves, by taking money from wealthy donors, stock trading with insider information, not abstaining themselves when they vote on laws that benefit their businesses, and blatantly introducing laws purely to benefit themselves.

So, is it just discrimination or also shitting on lower-class people?
It's like I'm listening to stuck-up billionaires, but you're all peasants to them.








By phart at 23,Aug,23 13:53 other posts of phart 
Private schooling simply gives the parents of the kids more control over what their child is exposed to. You don't hear of crt and sex change controversy in private schools as you do public.
Past time to ditch public schools, they don't work,
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 09:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your right, private schooling is for parents who want to indoctrinate their children
with their own ideas and don't want them exposed to any other ideas, but their own.
That's a SAFE SPACE! I thought you were against that?

Any parent who thinks that their ideas shouldn't be challenged, probably understands that their ideas are FRAGILE and any REASONING will destroy them.
If just the mentioning of racism and history of black people destroys your racism, than it is WEAK. Have some confidence that your racism will prevail.
If just the idea of gender, sexual identity and sexual orientation makes your kid doubt themselves, then they ARE NOT sis and/or heterosexual, as you want them to be.
They need your guidance to understand themselves, not your stupid oppression
of their feelings.

Sorry (not sorry), education is for the public benefit and it's not to the public benefit to fill the heads of your children with fragile ideas, that don't stand the scrutiny of REASON.
If you want to indoctrinate your children in private education, go ahead, but you're setting them up to fail in any occupation requiring REASON.

Also, private schooling is EXPENSIVE!
The whole idea of public schooling is to provide children from poor parents
with an education, so they can escape the poverty of their parents.
Find me any country that only has private schooling, that works.
By phart at 24,Aug,23 13:30 other posts of phart 
Private school is for parents who do NOT want their kids indoctrinated by drag queens and idiots.
They simply want their kids to learn math, english, history, and etc.
The birds and the bee's talk is supposed to be with the father and the son, or the mother and the daughter ,not some man in a dress telling a boy he can get pregnant when a simple medical exam can prove that is not possible.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 14:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That is a fantasy right-wing talking point, for propaganda purposes.
It's not remotely true.

The 'birds and the bees' is a responsibility of education, because parents suck at doing that and pregnant teens and HIV are damaging to the general public.
Teachers are just providing knowledge, based on current science.
You are anti-knowledge and stuck at 1950's science and BS propaganda.
By phart at 24,Aug,23 16:27 other posts of phart 
Since when did the education system decide it knows more than the parents? the pregnant teen thing is the fault of the liberal, had they not talked about sex and so forth to the young kids, curiosity would not have lead them that far naturally. The teachers teach about sex and get the kids riled up and wanting to try all this new stuff to quick.
The less they know at a young age, the less problem.
Don't you think kids would have been taught sex earlier on for many decades had it been a good idea? Their minds are not mature enough to even know what sex is.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 17:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The education system didn't DECIDE it knows more than the parents, IT DOES!
Sorry to tell you, but Americans are horrible dumb and getting dumber.
The only way to provide any future for those kids, is compensating for the stupidity of their parents.

There is no age too young to start providing information about sex.
Of course, you keep it at their level and expand on it later.
You cannot teach biology without the 'basics', and biology starts in first grade
in The Netherlands. I read that in the US, biology starts in 8th grade.
I hope that's not true, but damn it would explain a lot.

Most kids learn to use a microscope in primary school these days. In my time, we didn't have them, but we had many classes about anatomy, the brain, cells, species and genes and even evolution, while it was a Christian School.
There was some sexual education too, but it was very prudish. They explained how it was done very shortly and focused on how the sperm fertilizes egg and then grows. Then they very quickly explained how the baby comes out.
I certainly didn't have any problems getting my head around it.
My parents showed a sexual education documentary on TV, when I was around 10 or something. I just remember it being very humiliating and learning absolutely nothing new.

At what age do you think children know how boys and girls are different?
Children discover that as soon as they see a diaper changed in kindergarten.
In my country, parents already explain some basics to their children when they are in the why, why, why phase, when they are 2 or 3. A toddler once told me, with a big smile: 'boys have a tollie, girls have a punani', which is more then I knew, because those are the Surinamese words for penis and vagina. I laughed with her parents, that I just got educated about sex, by a toddler.

Compare your teen pregnancy statistics with ours, and learn something.
By #610414 at 25,Aug,23 11:23
Amen to that. I've been saying the same thing all along. Most of the citizens in this country are "functional illiterates", and those that have some education are, frequently, well versed in their field of study and are absolutely ignorant about everything else. TEACHERS DO KNOW MORE THAN PARENTS.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Aug,23 15:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Most Americans read and write and do basic calculus. That's not the problem.
The problem is logical reasoning; understanding the cause of problems and understanding reasoning errors and fallacious argumentation. Because of that, Americans believe anything they are told by someone they trust and believe nothing, no matter how solid the arguments, from someone they distrust.
They only have to teach you to trust a specific group of people and then you
trust them and no one else, for life. That makes it very easy to con you.
Understand that the teaching of critical thinking skills is actively opposed,
by people who want you to trust them unconditionally, so they can keep lying
to you and keep taking advantage of you.
Many of the books that DeSantis banned in Florida taught critical thinking skills. Those books didn't contain any CRT or black history or transgender ideology or whatever else you think is woke, they just taught logical reasoning. Nothing is more important to be successful in life, than being able to understand the cause of a problem and think of a logical solution. It's also important to employers, if their employees are able to solve problems. BUT, those logical reasoning skills carry one big risk for the establishment; you will not believe their lies anymore. They cannot have that, so they structure your economy to work with monkeys, who work for peanuts, and reduce education to just teaching you some tricks.
By sherryann at 25,Aug,23 22:00 other posts of sherryann 
I agree with Ananas and CAT, American's are dumb as hell! And getting dumber every day and every generation!
By phart at 25,Aug,23 22:07 other posts of phart 
Americans may be "dumb" but the government is DUMBER.
And teachers and the system has lost total sight of what they were intended for .
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Aug,23 22:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What are teachers intended for, in your opinion?

I think teachers should teach kids how to think and how to learn.
They should also teach kids knowledge as a starting point, to build on,
but learning should never stop after you leave school.
It's impossible to teach kids everything they will need in life,
so you teach them how to learn for themselves what they need after school.
By phart at 26,Aug,23 01:59 other posts of phart 
You are correct for the most part, BUT it is what they teach the kids to learn about that is the issue in some cases.
There are 2 sexes or genders, not 24.
But teachers try to teach that there are more and how boys can have babies and shit and the science is not there,the anatomy is not there and so on.
No matter what you learned in school Ananas, I am willing to bet a dozen donuts YOU personally can NOT have a BABY.
All the knowledge in the world,will not put a womb in your torso. Why teach kids that they can do something that is physically impossible?
I am just using that 1 issue as a example , there are more about race and so forth
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Aug,23 10:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Every teacher everywhere in the world teaches that there are 2 sexes.
I was told that and every kid in even the 'wokest' school in my country too.
Only higher education in genetics will expand on the variations in sex.

The teachers who are correct, make a distinction between sex and gender.
Sex is biological and gender is a social/identity construct.
Why is this so hard for you to understand? The scientific definition of 'gender' has never been the same as the scientific definition of 'sex', it was just misused by people who do not know any better. The reason people started using the word 'gender' in stead of 'sex' was prudishness, but that's no reason to confuse science.

I have explained it to you at length, you have not provided anything to the contrary, other than repeating your 1950's ideas and straw-manning the arguments, instead of what scientists have actually demonstrated on the subject.
By tecsan at 28,Aug,23 03:38 other posts of tecsan 
You socialist always come up with stupid arguments and ideas. What has been wrong with the last couple hundred years? You all want to change crap to suit your narrative at the moment. I just wonder what it will be six months from now Ananas2xLekker.

Oh, also feel free to keep up your bullshit semantics.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Aug,23 13:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"What has been wrong with the last couple hundred years?"
Are you kidding? How about too many crimes against humanity to count?

There is only one narrative that I care about; what is true!
There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender.
Your side has done nothing but suppresses them and deny those people their very existence. Your side is getting crazy enough to start killing.
And your argument for that is the meaning of a word? That's bullshit!
By tecsan at 29,Aug,23 04:55 other posts of tecsan 
We have live through it without any problems until you socialist bring up the crap. I have trans friends that laugh at you and think you are an idiot as well as this so called woke mob. I really think you should get out more and socialize. Don't judge another country unless you have spent a good amount of time there.

May be a surprise to you, but not all trans people agree with your BS.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Aug,23 08:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you even realizing that you have not refuted anything I said, with any arguments, at all? You are just calling it socialism, crap, laughable, idiotic, woke and bullshit, but you provide NOTHING that refutes the reality I'm pointing to.

You have just confirmed that trans people exist. Didn't I say:
"There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender."?
So how is that BS? What is not true about it?

From every discussion we have had, I get the idea that you are completely incapable of logic. Answer this; if trans people exist, why then is sex binary and why then is 'gender' the same as 'sex'?
How do we categorize transGENDER people, if you are correct?

Lets examine your claim that not all trans people agree agree with me. First of all, that's an 'appeal to authority fallacy', it's not an argument supported by logic. Even if it's true that those people say that, it doesn't say anything about them being correct. They can be just as ignorant of the science as you are. Being transgender doesn't come with a science curriculum in sex and gender studies.

So do those trans people, you are referring to, agree with your view, that they are mentally ill, due to woke propaganda from drag queens, and they shouldn't be allowed to look the way they want to look, take gender-affirming medication and especially not get gender-affirming surgery, because they are obviously confused, because of the 'woke mob'?

Maybe that's putting 'words' in your mouth, but you have called every related opposite idea, that I've proposed 'BS' and worse, so that IS YOUR POSITION. If not, clarify what you don't agree with. If you don't, you confirm everything I just stated.
Ask those trans people, you know, if they agree with that.
If they do, they agree with being stripped of the right to exist.
By tecsan at 30,Aug,23 05:27 other posts of tecsan 
You have just confirmed that trans people exist. Didn't I say:
"There are people who are gay, lesbian, intersex and transgender."?
So how is that BS? What is not true about it? #1 what are the percentage of those people that make you think millions should go along with the BS?
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,23 10:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you calling the fact that they exist itself BS?
Trans people are about a group of minimum 1% and maximum 5%.
They exist, and they want the right to exist. Is that BS?

What do you consider 'going along with the BS'?
Are you talking about just treating them like human beings?
Is allowing them professional help 'going along with the BS'?
If you are not clear, then how can we have a discussion?

Personally, I think it's BS to make a fully transitioned trans-woman pee at the men's toilet, but you seem to think that is very important. I would feel a bit uncomfortable to find a trans-woman in the men's toilet.
"Did I walk into the wrong toilet?". Not 'going along' with their wish to use the women's toilet, is BS in my opinion.
And I also think women would feel uncomfortable when trans-men have to pee in the women's toilet. Most of them have beards. How is it BS to allow them into the men's toilet? Hell, you wouldn't even notice.
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Or things like the right to say 'sir' to someone wearing make-up and a dress. Why would you want that? You're bound to mistake a biological woman for a transvestite or transsexual and look like an idiot. That's why it is BS, in my opinion, to keep saying 'sir' to trans-women.
Do you want to say 'ma'am' to a ripped guy with a beard?
You better know what you're doing then, because if you guess wrong...

Is it BS to let a ripped man, wearing a skirt, compete as a woman?
Yes, of course it is. No one wants that. Lets be honest and practical about it. Stop your BS, saying that's what people want.
By tecsan at 31,Aug,23 04:09 other posts of tecsan 
Stop putting words in my mouth again. They are treated well and why should I put 1% ahead of the majority. They exist and they are fine with me. Some are fun to hang out with. Now do you believe in hanging out or do you just like using them as political pawns as usual Ananas2xLekker.
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,Aug,23 17:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They are constantly in danger of getting killed by crazies like you.
How are they put ahead of the majority?
How are YOU hurt by their existence?

By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Sep,23 08:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Using them as political pawns is exactly what Republicans are doing.
They decided to do that as a strategy, because they have nothing else to give you.
They provide you with an enemy, so you think they are doing something for you, when they make that enemy suffer.

Making people suffer doesn't cost anything for the elites,
but it's very useful if people like to see other people suffer.
It's the oldest playbook in politics ever.
It's time people aren't fooled by that anymore.
By tecsan at 01,Sep,23 08:35 other posts of tecsan 
I do believe that we have common sense. That is something you libs will never have. No crazy stupid ideas, then yes, you libs have that over us.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Sep,23 12:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, you have dogmas, which you call 'common sense'.
'Libs' and progressives have logical reasoning.
You have never provided any logical argument for any idea you hold.








By phart at 31,Aug,23 13:29 other posts of phart 
NO are YOU kidding? All the racial strife that has happened over the past 100 years is all for naught.
The constitution was fixed to give equal rights.
equal rights, means EQUAL EFFORT on the part of all involved.
1 race whining about what was done 100 years ago wants the people of today to give them money for something they are not responsible for and so many other examples .IT's all because of to much tolerance, to much compassion, to much leniency .
if blacks get money for restitution for thier ancestors I want money for my ancestors being forced to walk all the way to Oklahoma
By Ananas2xLekker at 31,Aug,23 17:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The constitution says nothing about EQUAL EFFORT.
It's not whining over what was done 100 years ago,
they are constantly discriminated against TODAY.

Here are some examples:
When you are just walking around, a cop is not going to think
that you look suspiciously. It is what they get every day and that puts them danger of police violence every day.
Hospitals and schools are taken out of black neighborhoods and polluting industry and highways are put into their neighborhoods.
Their votes get canceled by voter suppression and gerrymandering.
They get racially profiled against getting loans and insurances.
They are stigmatized in the justice system and get harder punishment than white people, for the same crimes.
Not just black people with an equal education make lower wages than white people, but they even make less money with a higher education than white people.

That's called systemic racism and according to the constitution,
that should not happen.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 17:37 other posts of phart 
HOW ELSE can all be equal if there is no equal effort by all?
Bella posted a link to a video of a black woman screaming cuss words at a cop, and you have YET to comment on it, Gee I wonder why? Because it disproves your idea that blacks are mistreated? 13% of the population commits 30% or so of all crime
Based on the 2018 NCVS and UCR, black people accounted for 29% of violent-crime offenders and 35% of violent-crime offenders in incidents reported to police, compared to 33% of all persons arrested for violent crimes

Hospitals are not built in black neighborhoods because they can't or don't pay their fucking BILLS. Medical care cost money and they won't work to earn it.
"
"What race has the most medical debt?
Black
And across the middle class, racial disparities persist, with Black and Hispanic families seeing the highest rates. 4 million (37.5%) Black middle-class people have medical debt, 8.5 points higher than Black low-income people and 16 points higher than Black high-income people.Aug 21, 2023"

Please I know I have ask this a dozen times and you or cat neither 1 have shown indisputable evidence that black votes are actually suppressed. You show the potential for it to happen,just as we can show the potential for voter fraud. But you ignore us and try to push your agenda,that has far less actual evidence.
All that is required is a legit id to vote, something everyone has or should have for many other reasons besides voting. The 1 right Americans have that is so simple to qualify for ,being a citizen, and folks are unwilling to prove that simple thing, by having a simple id. SOMEHOW< it is wrong to ask people to prove who the hell they are.
According to liberal theory I should be able to fly over to the Nether regions and vote in YOUR elections. No proof needed to vote right? May I come vote in your next election? You can vote in mine if you swim over the river and give my name if you come to my voting precinct.
So what if they get punished for a crime, it has been going on long enough that everyone,not just blacks ,should know better than to commit crime in the first fucking place.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Sep,23 16:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's a complete straw-man of my opinions. I am very much supporting rewarding effort, but I'm also supporting a minimum level of basic living necessities that no one should be allowed to fall under. Humanity has progressed enough to provide that.

You are actually not supporting equal reward for equal effort, at all.
Most of the wealthy provides no effort at all, but you think they are entitled to very unequal rewards. They sit behind a desk, thinking of plans to screw their workers, to squeeze even more profits out of their labor and make 400x the money of those workers. How is that equal reward for equal effort?
What did the kids of wealthy people do, to get unequal more access to quality education?

What would that one video tell me? That one cop had the restraint to not kill someone for just disrespecting them?

"13% of the population commits 30% or so of all crime"
One poor black criminal has to do a crime every day to get by.
One white white board criminal can do one crime and make enough to retire.
And that black guy has a much higher chance to get caught and add to the statistics.

Of course poor people have more medical debt than rich people.
I don't need statistics to understand that. BUT THAT IS WRONG!
Healthcare should be a right for everyone and not a thing you need to work for.

Why do you need evidence for voter suppression?
There are laws designed to suppress the votes of black people.
You can READ, don't you?
When Republican politicians draw a map for voting districts to catch every single black person in just one district and then put every white person in all the other districts, that's voter suppression. Are you denying that they do that?

"According to liberal theory I should be able to fly over to the Nether regions and vote in YOUR elections."
Of course not, only everyone living in the Netherlands, who is 18 years or older, and has the Dutch nationality, may vote. Also Dutch people who are in prison. The group of people who are not allowed to vote is very small. You don't have the Dutch nationality, so you would not be allowed to vote, except in some cases for the municipal elections and water board elections.
Everyone who's eligible to vote in my country, gets a voting pass by mail, without any registration needed.
On election day, we go to the polls, handover the voting pass and our identification and we vote, most of the time withing minutes. Our elections are very secure and we don't have any gerrymandering or voter roll purges.


By phart at 31,Aug,23 19:05 other posts of phart 
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here is a black woman that thinks it is OK to steal.
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Another thinks they can cause a accident and not be blamed,
I could go on, but the black people have this "entitlement" mentality and it is just wrong.


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By tecsan at 01,Sep,23 04:53 other posts of tecsan 
Love to have all my money back for attending a University. Not to mention for all of the specialized classes I had to pay for. Keep whining libs, you signed up for it and thus you owe it back. Should not be me paying you, I think you should be paying me if any reparations are to be paid. Grow up and accept responsibilities Ananas2xLekker.
By phart at 01,Sep,23 14:43 other posts of phart 
Education is the parents responsibility ,not the publics. I don't have kids, and should not be expected to pay a red cent for anything related to a kid.Nor should I have tolerate their screaming and banging around when I am eating out or shopping.
By tecsan at 02,Sep,23 05:05 other posts of tecsan 
I have always wondered that, of course I should have paid taxes related to schools. But those without kids should not pay.

Also those that pay should have a say in education of the children, which last time I checked is everyone that pays taxes. Not just the idiot loon dems.
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Sep,23 10:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Education is for the general benefit of society.
Even if you don't have kids, you are benefiting
from an economy where children get education.

How far do you want to take this? Should people
who don't own cars not pay for road infrastructure?
Should people who don't use public transport not pay for it?
Should people who never visit a park not pay for it?
Should people who recycle pay less for waste disposal
than people who don't recycle? How will you check that?

The system that is required to track all the things
people would pay for and not, would be very expensive.
Libertarian ideas like that are ridiculously impractical.
By phart at 02,Sep,23 23:26 other posts of phart 
Had that "libertarian" system been implemented decades ago the cost would be small to maintain it.
Parks,put a 10 spot in the can when you walk in,
if you don't ever walk in,then you don't pay,if you don't drive,why the hell would you owe for a road?
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Sep,23 20:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Humanity has tried libertarianism for tens of thousands of years.
It didn't go anywhere, so that's why we invented organized society.
Libertarianism is just chaos. And don't think you support it,
you support a conservative autocratic oligarchy; Trumpism.










By tecsan at 28,Aug,23 05:31 other posts of tecsan 
Be careful phart they are already working on transplanting uteruses. Are we also going to transplant ovaries. I wonder if someone is working on ball transplant and a prostate. Hmm, leave it to the ignorant libs and they will try.

You know most of them will argue with a fence post as evidenced by many already. The majorit disagrees with this crap.

I also know a few trans people and they are with me, they say it is just BS the left is using to distract from other things. Maybe bully joey.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 17:56 other posts of phart 
A couple good points Tescan,
The actual people that are dealing with the issues that cause the desire to be trans or whatever, are having issues getting what they need because of all the copy cats and idiots stealing the spot light and resources.
1% or so of the population does not warrant all the screen time it gets.

The only good thing about the uteruses transplants is the rejection rate will be high I am sure and the idiots will have to suffer alot of pain. And maybe,just maybe,they will have to come to terms with the fact they are idiots as they look down at all the scars on their bodies.
I can't see how it is sensible to want to look down and see scars where a dick used to be,or where a boob used to be, the body is destroyed, men with the dick turned to puss deal with infections and such the rest of their lives. when just dealing with the fact you have a dick and living your life would be cheaper, and less harmful healthwise.

By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Sep,23 16:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Why would anyone want to receive transplanted ovaries?
It wouldn't be their eggs, but have the DNA of the donor.
At least with a transplanted uterus a person would be able
to bear children which would otherwise be impossible.
Having the ovaries of someone else is totally pointless.

At least with someone else's testicles, you can give cumshots.
That requires a prostate as well, or they would be very dry ones.
By phart at 05,Sep,23 16:53 other posts of phart 
None of it makes any sense. That is the whole point.You are born with what your body is designed for,and putting a extra transmission in the front of a volkswagon beetle is not going to make it a Mack truck.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 15:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Literally all elective surgery is on body parts that were incorrectly 'designed', according to the people who want those surgeries.






By sherryann at 26,Aug,23 00:43 other posts of sherryann 
Im sorry phart I know it sounds harsh, but kids are not part of my life so I have no interest in them. I was just reading and came across American people being dumb and I know that's a fact.


By tecsan at 30,Aug,23 05:29 other posts of tecsan 
You do have a very good point there sherryann. I guess CAT does too if she believes it too.
By #610414 at 30,Aug,23 14:49
Wholeheartedly. I'm also honored to be in sinc with lovely Sherryann.
By sherryann at 30,Aug,23 22:41 other posts of sherryann 
Aw thanks that's very kind!


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thanks tecsan




By phart at 25,Aug,23 22:06 other posts of phart 
About the subjects they versed in such as physics or something but, Not everything.




By tecsan at 26,Aug,23 06:52 other posts of tecsan 
No it is not Ananas2xLekker. The talking points are being presented by the left wing idiots. I guess you need to live here to understand and last time I checked you are in the Netherlands and trying to argue American politics.

Think dude, that would be crazy for me to argue the politics of your Country. Really no one here cares about the politics in your Country. In other words your politics mean nothing.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Aug,23 10:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You yourself say that my country is woke as fuck.
But there is no school in my country teaching CRT or have kids
'indoctrinated by drag queens'. How does that calculate for you?

Every time some right-wing story comes out, about kitty litter boxes
or some shit, it always turns out to be completely fabricated nonsense.
Or it turns out it's some right-wing parent, who's is trolling people.
Or it is something common sense that schools are obligated to provide, by law.
But it's hyped on every right-wing news outlet, like it's the end times.

It would be crazy for you to discuss politics in my country, because you don't know anything about it. Why should you? What happens in my country doesn't affect you. However, everything that happens in your country affects my country. Just one tiny example: When we had the 'wappies' in my country, denying the very existence of COVID-19 or even the existence of viruses itself, and thinking the vaccines were a government conspiracy to decimate the population, and threatening our politicians over it, that was ALL caused by American made disinformation. I've seen my brother in law turned into a complete lunatic, because of your nonsense. He is not capable of thinking straight anymore. It is ruining his life. He's constantly making horrible mistakes, switching jobs, going into debt, and since recently his 10 year old son doesn't want to live with him anymore, in the weekends. He used to be a sensible, down to earth guy, but American made disinformation turned his mind into mush.

However, I have been following and investigated your political subjects for years now and most of the time I know much more about it than you do. Sure, you live in the US, but you are dependent on the media, to tell you what is happening in schools, just like me. You might hear some stories, but you're only accepting the stories from people in your echo chamber and rejecting the stories your hear from everyone else. They are just crazy liberals to you, so you can ignore them.
You don't know anything about your own country, because you chose to believe bullshit and deny reality.
By phart at 31,Aug,23 21:22 other posts of phart 
Living in the US with neighbors sending their kids to school it is not difficult to see and hear what happens without ever depending on the media for the info.I hear some from school teachers directly and the kids.
1 neighbors kid that I spoke to during the plandemic said he was very disappointed about his grades. He was making good grades in school then they closed the schools and went online. He said if you even signed in each day and marked answers on test you were given passing grades rather or not your answers were correct. Schools closed less than 3 months from end of year and with no precedent to follow ,teachers just slacked their way thru.. 1 school teacher explained they are not able to teach history before WW2! Nothing is mentioned about the founding fathers or anything of the sort
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Sep,23 13:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The covid measures did indeed have a damaging effect to children.
But it was necessary to keep the spread of the virus down.
If they had done nothing, the death toll would have been millions higher.
Kids are huge infection spreaders. They don't get very sick themselves,
but they infect everyone around them. The damage done to their education
is still less than when parents are unable to work, end up in hospital,
die or suffer long covid.

Yous hospitals were overburdened. People died due to lack of healthcare,
who wouldn't have died if it was available. One factor that overburdened
your hospitals was people who refused to vaccinate. That had a negative
effect on those children's education too.

However, we were talking about woke and CRT and now we are talking
about covid measure. Maybe that's all the same to you, but it isn't.
By phart at 02,Sep,23 23:28 other posts of phart 
It all ties together. All affect the education of the kids.
the virus,the crt,the "wokeness'. Which I seldom use that term, does not apply to what it is used for
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Sep,23 21:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That figures, 'wokeness' is the term that they fit everything under,
when wise and thoughtful policies serve the public interest.

They tell you 'think about the kids', when they only think about themselves.
Meanwhile they are reducing education to teaching monkeys some tricks.
By phart at 07,Sep,23 15:58 other posts of phart 
Kids need to be taught what they can use to earn a damn living ,not taught how to leach off the system.
That's for sure.
Learning there is 514 genders is not any kind of info a person can use to earn a living.
But learning how to keep track of your money,how to invest, how to write, talk, and so on,are some things that need to be taught.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 16:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"taught what they can use to earn a damn living"
That's more than they taught you, because that won't provide them with a job that pays the rent of a one room apartment these days.
What you think is sufficient education, is just enough for a shop assistant.
If they want to do what I do, and make just enough to buy a house today,
they need to learn real science and learn actual thinking skills.
That was all in the banned books of Ron DeSantis, so sorry for those kids.
Children in the red states will all grow up to be poor or criminals.
Unless they have rich parents of course, they are allowed to learn useful knowledge, because they need it to rule over the poor and dumb peasants.

And no, you're a dumb-ass for thinking there is any specific number of genders or that kids are taught that. They are just hearing that some people feel like they don't belong in the body they were born with, which is a fact, supported by science. But apparently, that information is very dangerous to your ideology. It must be incredibly weak, if you feel so threatened by reality.
By phart at 07,Sep,23 20:42 other posts of phart 
I am not threatened by reality, I live in it every day. What is a concern is a generation of people growing up confused ,thinking they are women but dying of prostate cancer or similar issues.
The people that are being taught it is ok not to accept themselves as what they are born as in the physical sense is a issue .The suicide rates have not improved since this gender bending thing started.it has gotten worse.
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Sep,23 08:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You think that, because of the 24/7 fearmongering about it.
It's bullshit, the percentage of transgenders is completely consistent with historical and researched facts. There are just a whole lot of young people supporting them. Then there are lots of young people who don't like your religiously originated ideology of prudishness and abstinence (as long as it's heterosexual abstinence). Just like punk kids rejected society imposing their idea's onto them, pink haired kids using gender neutral pronouns are rejecting your ideology that you want to impose on them. They are not 'confused' about their sex, they won't go through any surgery, they are just not accepting your outdated ideas and celebrate personal freedom.

Just like when being left-handed was allowed, the percentage of left-handedness increased from 3% to 12% and then stabilized at 12% for
60 years, and the percentage of gay people increased to about 7.5%,
when they are not murdered or imprisoned over it, the percentage of transgenders transitioning or partly transitioning will be at maximum 2% (which is probably too high of an estimation).
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If suicide rates have not improved, that's because your ideology
keeps turning their life into a living hell.

US numbers: "Data indicate that 82% of transgender individuals have considered killing themselves and 40% have attempted suicide, with suicidality highest among transgender youth."
I could not find any consistent numbers on the general population, but your suicide rate is 10.1 per 100,000 people per year (ours is 7.9).

Dutch numbers: "Transgender people are 5 to 10 times more likely to attempt suicide and 7 times more likely to think about suicide compared to non-transgender people."
About 4.3% of the Dutch population considers suicide at one time in their lives. That means it's 30% for transgender people.

The conclusions:
1) It sucks to be a transgender, in general.
2) Life in the US generally sucks more than life in The Netherlands.
3) For transgender people life sucks way more in the US, than life
in The Netherlands.
By phart at 08,Sep,23 13:37 other posts of phart 
If it sucks, then why be involved in it? Accept your body for what it is,and get on with life.
If you can convince fat people they are pretty,you should be able do similar for trans people.
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person admits the hate comes from within!
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By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Sep,23 15:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Can you imagine how it would feel, to be that way?
By phart at 09,Sep,23 00:43 other posts of phart 
No,why would I want to? why create a problem for yourself?
The meds these people are taking are not working,or they need some meds.



















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DUH@


By hair_today at 31,Aug,23 15:28 other posts of hair_today 
Of course all lives matter, but I always assumed the phrase "Black lives matter" meant "Black lives should matter as much as white lives".
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 15:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They know, but they just like to debate slagans instead of actual problems.
By hair_today at 07,Sep,23 21:29 other posts of hair_today 
I agree

By phart at 08,Sep,23 01:41 other posts of phart 
I just want the group to quit sanctioning violent behavior and actually come up with solutions to what they feel like is a problem.
Just as the 1 link mentioned, i can't qoute it but , when blacks stop acting the stereo type, it won't be used anymore.
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Sep,23 07:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They have come up with solutions, I listed them for you, but you scoff at them.
This is understandable, because you agree with cops and old white idiots
killing any black person who looks suspicious.
'Don't look suspicious' is not a solution, because all black people
look suspicious to you, all the time, because of their skin color.

You are pointing to statistics for that, but we can do that for you too.
Terror attacks are committed by right-wing extremists in the large majority of cases,
in 2020 more than 90%. If police spot an armed white man, with a MAGA hat,
in the vicinity of a school, by your logic, they should assume he's a school shooter,
and shoot him dead, before he can kill any children. He fits the stereotype.





By phart at 06,Sep,23 15:01 other posts of phart 
This man is so right!
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By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Sep,23 09:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He was completely right, up to the point where he implies that shooting them shouldn't result in protests. Killing looters isn't enforcing laws, that's a fascist police state.

You only support that lethal 'law enforcement' against black people and not against white people. Should the capital guards have shot more jan 6th rioters? They even attacked, wounded and killed guards, not just stole some nice unprotected loot.

Just have a security guard or two around, who tackle at least two of them and hand them over to the police. There were nine looters there and they did not even get one of them. There were no security gates and no alarms (in my country, even the discount stores have security gates). That's incompetence. It's choosing crime over security expenses.

If there's 0% chance of getting caught looting, there will always be people who choose to loot. Catching at least two of them, would have increased to risk of that heist to 22%. That turns the risk/reward percentage to not worth the crime.



By #700888 at 19,Aug,23 18:05
All LIVES MATTER. What makes black better than others? Only IDIOTS think that one race is better than the others
By tecsan at 20,Aug,23 06:53 other posts of tecsan 
I agree with you, but talk to the democrats about that.

By phart at 20,Aug,23 12:30 other posts of phart 
leave it to some whinny liberal to tell you how racist you are thinking that all races are equal and that their race of choice of race is more important.

it used to be equality that folks were after, a logical goal.
Now it is equity. Which is unattainable without taking from those that have achieved and giving to those that can't or wont strive to achieve.
A unfair and unrealistic goal that will only creates hatred and division.
By tecsan at 21,Aug,23 07:54 other posts of tecsan 
The dems want hatred and division. They all need to look back at the civil war here in the states.

Look at what the idiots are doing now. What is it up to now 91 indictments, sorry, I lost count.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 10:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Yes 91 indictments of CRIMES. After 'your side' chanted 'Lock her up!',
how is it 'division' to indict a president who at least committed 91 crimes?



By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 09:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Where in the slogan 'Black lives matter' is implied that one race is better than the others?
The reality is that black lives MATTER LESS or often not at all.
By denying that, you are denying that 'all lives matter'.

I have yet to see any argument from any right-winger
that shows how they really think that 'all lives matter'.
You are always saying it, but all your ideas come down to
that 'NO lives matter'. Except your own, but often not even your own.
By phart at 24,Aug,23 13:24 other posts of phart 
If the statement were simply, "lives matter" , there wouldn't be a issue.
The fact that "BLACK" is put in front of lives is the issue.
That prompts the reader to think the statement is in reference to a black life being more important.
No color or race should be put in front of "lives matter" ,if the person or group is trying to get folks to value life.
It is all meant to create division and hatred ,nothing less, nothing more. and it has worked.
But it will work out ok in the end. As NO lives will matter and AI will take care of the worlds issues in a organized and logical manner.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 15:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You are just stuck, like a broken record, on the same slogan.
That's because you cannot think yourself, beyond what you hear.
You are whining about a slogan, they are demanding to not be killed.
Your fifis are hurt, they see innocent family members getting killed by police.

Maybe they are dividing people with that slogan, but they have a right to,
because you have divided them, from the rest of Americans, for ever.
They should not have to include you, in front of 'lives matter',
because you are responsible yourself for how much your lives matter.
You are in power of the system that harms (all) people, they are not.

You think you are the only one, who is allowed to divide people. You're not!
They should not give a fuck about what you think, because you are harming them. They are in the right, to fight your ideas, until YOU stop your thinking and YOU close that division. They have asked nicely for decades and they are done with that.
Fix your racist police and fix your racist system, or they will never stop protesting,
no matter how much you think it is creating division and hatred.
By phart at 26,Aug,23 02:02 other posts of phart 
I am not harming anyone. I am simply trying to live my life.
Same as they should be.
If they obeyed the damn law, the police would not be in contact with them much at all.
I know it is a slogan in reference to police, but it is divisive and no ones opinion will change that.
Ok so they are tired of being nice eh?
Well, So are the rest of us.
You haven't saw the recent videos of the snatch and grab robberies in california?
No respect for private property,no respect for the law, nothing.Has been that way for years, and they want US as in the rest of the races of the world, to change OUR MINDSET FIRST? forget it, it is a 2 way street,until THEY make a effort to improve, we shouldn't have to either.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Aug,23 10:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your ideas are harming people. Hell, they are harming YOU.
People who are making billions a year, are telling people who make $40,000 a year, that people who make $10,000 a year, are stealing their crumbs.

Or they just distract you with culture war bullshit.
You'll give up EVERYTHING for the 'right' to be an asshole to a transvestite.

And you are gobbling up that shit and voting for people who keep telling that shit,
while you are probably one of the people most affected by that shit.
You will vote for the people who will destroy Medicare, that you will need.
By phart at 28,Aug,23 20:12 other posts of phart 
what's in my head is not bringing bruises or bl--d out of anyone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Aug,23 20:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
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By phart at 29,Aug,23 23:45 other posts of phart 
Have I "inspired" You in any way?
NO, a person that wants to commit violence will do so on their own accord.










By phart at 15,Aug,23 19:10 other posts of phart 
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Black supremist ,a new term I just heard here.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Aug,23 15:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No you didn't, even I heard that term before.



By cardinal at 22,Aug,23 15:15 other posts of cardinal 
My dick matters woot what!!!


By Ananas2xLekker at 21,Aug,23 16:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Problem With White People | The Problem With Jon Stewart
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By phart at 22,Jul,23 00:45 other posts of phart 
Youngest to die in vietnam was BLACK
Marine, Pfc. Dan Bullock, of Brooklyn, NY. went in at age 14, died at age 15.

How many black men volunteer for the military today?


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Black Panthers Protesting In Washington D.C.

In 1969 the Black Panther Party, a group of revolutionary African Americans, came out of Oakland, California to peacefully protest the United States' involvement in the Vietnam War. Aside from simply protesting the war, the Panthers were able to institute free breakfast for students in every city where they had a chapter, and they gave out free shoes to the poor.

When the Panthers marched on Washington D.C. in 1969 it became one of the largest peaceful protests to ever hit America. Despite the peaceful protest, the FBI considered the Panthers public enemy #1. Ideals of empowerment and resistance have persisted, but enthusiasm for the Black Panther party itself waned.

Now tell me, does the black panthers still give out shoes to the poor?
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Aug,23 10:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
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It took me just one minute to find these statistics. Seeing that 13.6% of Americans are black, they are overrepresented in your military. White Americans are underrepresented.

The Black Panthers were not a charity organization. Their full name is The Black Panther Party for Self-Defense (BPP). It was a revolutionary organization with an ideology of Black nationalism, socialism, and armed self-defense, particularly against police brutality.
As far as I can find, they don't exist anymore.

There are still many 'black charities' though. Here are some of them:
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By tecsan at 03,Aug,23 09:30 other posts of tecsan 
Bet you googled that.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Aug,23 09:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Of course, I said so, didn't I?
How did phart find his information?
How do you find something on the internet?
Google? Yahoo? DuckDuckGo? Ecosia (prabably not )?
By tecsan at 08,Aug,23 04:38 other posts of tecsan 
As you know Ananas2xLekker I rarely provide internet backup for an argument. I comment on what I have seen. But, have to admit most of the lib shit I see comes from truth TV. There is no disputing evidence right before your very eyes.



By dgraff at 03,Aug,23 10:37 other posts of dgraff 
I went through this with cat over a year ago the black panther organization is still alive today they just changed the name slightly
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They go by the name of the new black panther party and they are very much involved with the BLM movement
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Aug,23 11:28 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Look at that, you're correct!

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Stay strong brothers & sisters!
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That’s some thing that interests me in my quest to find out why the blacks hate whites so much i don’t hate them i just hate the way they act with their boom box music and their jive talk and their walking around with a comb in their hair and pants down around their ass I have a friend that is black and he was adopted and raised by a well off white couple he’s one of the nicest people you would ever meet we still go fishing together to this day
By phart at 03,Aug,23 13:11 other posts of phart 
That just it, hardly anyone hates the people, they hate their ways .

By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Aug,23 19:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Maybe they don't hate you either, just the way you act,
like generalizing them all in they way you describe them,
unless they were raised by white people, of course.
By dgraff at 03,Aug,23 19:29 other posts of dgraff 
No they think white peoples owe them something respect is something you earned every thing else we work hard for if they would follow those simple guidelines every thing would be just fine and we would look at them as equals
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By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Aug,23 12:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And how do you think white people have earned the respect of black people then?
By dgraff at 05,Aug,23 13:31 other posts of dgraff 
By freeing them of course
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Aug,23 15:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's the most ignorant shit you ever said.
They should not respect you, for treating them as human beings,
after you used their ancestors as cattle, for hundreds of years.

Think of this: You'll work for me, do the worst jobs I can find for you, while you'll only get to eat my scraps and live in my shed. When you won't work hard enough, I'll whip you to submission. After a few decades, the government says that I'll have to stop. They'll pay me money to compensate for my loss. You'll be free to go, in a country where everyone hates you. Your final moments are hanging on a burning cross.
I'm sure you'll think back of me, with respect, in your last moments.

My father shot your father in the head, because he was worn out, after 30 years of hard unpaid labor. Your grandfather died from his wounds, when my grandfather whipped him for disobedience, after 25 years of hard unpaid labor.
Will your grandchildren respect my grandchildren, for not doing that anymore?
By dgraff at 06,Aug,23 16:38 other posts of dgraff 
Well they should
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Aug,23 17:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, they have all the reason to despise you,
because you haven't learned anything.
You still don't see them as human beings.
And if your side would legalize slavery again,
or something similar, you would probably support it.
By phart at 07,Aug,23 01:48 other posts of phart 
No the government would probably tax the hell out of you for each 1 owned.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Aug,23 14:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
YOU are not going to own any slaves, that's just for rich people.
And they don't tax rich people, when your side wins. They'll just tax YOU.
By phart at 07,Aug,23 15:34 other posts of phart 
Nor did any of my ancestors own any for the same reason.They were not rich.Therefore I owe them NOTHING.





By phart at 06,Aug,23 17:00 other posts of phart 
And where would blacks be today had slavery never happened?
I have yet to get a straight answer from anyone on that question.
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Aug,23 17:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Those 'blacks' that were enslaved are all dead now.
Most of them have only known their enslavement, and died as a slave.

Had the US not enslaved the ancestors of the black people living in the US,
they would either have been born in the countries that those slaves were taken from or they would have been immigrants. The US still needed lots of workers and could have asked people to come work in the US, just like how so many Chinese people ended up in the US.
By phart at 06,Aug,23 21:57 other posts of phart 
Had they been born in their home countrys, what would their standard of living be like?
I seriously doubt they would be drinking starbucks and driving lexus.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Aug,23 10:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They have all lived many generations in the US now,
maybe even more generations than your ancestors.
You see them as 'blacks', but they are Americans.
They are Americans with a tough past, because of white man's evil
and they are still struggling because of that past en what still remains of it.

Africa isn't doing very well, maybe because of the same reason;
interference from the western world. If we hadn't enslaved and subjugated their countries, they could have all been drinking Starbucks and driving a Lexus there now too, but we keep messing up their ability to do so.

It's also fun to see how your stories flip, for the points you want to make;
for one narrative, they are all poverty stricken drugs dealers
and for another narrative they are drinking Starbucks and driving a Lexus.
By phart at 07,Aug,23 15:36 other posts of phart 
Africa is in bad shape because the middle eastern terrorist groups and CHINA have all stepped up to the plate to get the minerals and diamonds and such from the country. Enslaving the people for all practical purposes.
















By tecsan at 08,Aug,23 04:32 other posts of tecsan 
Maybe all the liberal city 'stop n go' convenience stores should institute a big stick policy. An ass whooping is what these robbers deserve.


By phart at 04,Aug,23 20:21 other posts of phart 
This black man decided it was perfectly ok to roll a trash can into a store and start piling cigarettes in it. About 2/3's thru the video,he is soon taught that it was NOT a good idea.
No they didn't kill him,but I bet he will think twice before he steals again. I love this method of dealing with theft. no law enforcement needed, just beat the fuck out of em and kick them out the door.Problem solved.
I am sure leo will think they should help him pile more in the can so it will be worth his time.he seems to support crime
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Yeah i saw that earlier. Good he finally got his ass kicked
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By tecsan at 05,Aug,23 01:33 other posts of tecsan 
You beat me to this one, but that ass whoopin sure is funny as hell.
By phart at 05,Aug,23 12:51 other posts of phart 
And deserved.
I say more of this need to be done. Notice also,no white guys involved.
Even blacks and others are getting tired of the shit.
By dgraff at 05,Aug,23 13:44 other posts of dgraff 
I’m afraid I would have exploded that stick he was using would have been bashing his head in not his ass years ago a guy at a biker bar kicked my soft tail over in the parking lot and I lost it I beat him with in an inch of his life with my half helmet I found the next morning that he was in the hospital with a fractured skull
By phart at 05,Aug,23 15:42 other posts of phart 
I am willing to bet that guy didn't kick over any more motorsickles did he?
By dgraff at 05,Aug,23 15:48 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha I bet he learned his lesson
By phart at 05,Aug,23 15:53 other posts of phart 
Look at the money you saved the local's. No police needed. No jail needed,just a can of whoop ass and all done.
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I love a happy ending. Hopefully more will do what dgraff and these guys in your post did.
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Oh have you noticed? Leo,Ananas,Cat,they have not replied to either post regarding this particular situation? Why is that? as andy rooney would say.










By #677384 at 26,May,23 19:32
No fkn lives matter for very long...one can make their life matter if they choose, but in the end we all turn to dust.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,May,23 19:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I hope people choose to make their life matter.
You only get one. Would be a shame to waste it.
By #677384 at 26,May,23 20:32
I believe we can ascend if we are kind and decent to one another
By #610414 at 26,May,23 21:33
It's not the assending that worries people that much. It's not having to assend EARLY that worries them more.😈
By #677384 at 26,May,23 22:00
Yeah...I'm not worried about ascending early at all. If one has a good soul they have no need to be worried.
By #610414 at 26,May,23 22:10
So, you are okay getting murdered? 🤔 HMMMM.
By #677384 at 26,May,23 22:49
well my dear, many get killed every day. I am not afraid or worried about it at all...of course I am very well armed. I don't worry about a thing.
By #610414 at 26,May,23 23:27
And there it is. GUNS.😖😖
By phart at 27,May,23 02:22 other posts of phart 
So you don't have 1 but you don't worry about anything eh?
By #610414 at 27,May,23 02:49
I don't.
By phart at 27,May,23 14:42 other posts of phart 
so what gives you this confidence?
By #610414 at 27,May,23 16:09
I don't worry because of the law of averages. Throughout my life I've had many friends and other people I've known. Not one has had a reason to “carry”. Yes, it happens. If it didn’t I wouldn’t bitch so much about guns. I’ve been chased and my purse stolen by an armed BLACK MAN, in the Macy’s parking lot in International Mall. I was in my thirties. I managed to get to my old Mustang. I started to chase the guy trying to run him over. He shot at me but it went wild. His buddy(s) picked him up.
I figure that was my “one and only reason” to “carry”. I don’t want to be a hypocrite. Owning a gun and advocating against them is not right.
By phart at 27,May,23 18:29 other posts of phart 
So you object to a little gun but you don't mind using a 2 ton car to kill? and you are worried about being a hypocrite regarding guns?
By #610414 at 27,May,23 19:28
I was mad. If I could do that with a car, I hate to think what I would have done if I had had a gun. NO GUNS


By LittleBlueberry at 14,Jun,23 21:47 other posts of LittleBlueberry 
Well everyone has a right to protect themselves.
By #610414 at 14,Jun,23 22:53
I won't argue that point.







By Ananas2xLekker at 30,May,23 08:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Not a care in the world, because you are armed?
Well, if guns solved everything, that would be easy.
Looking at your country, it doesn't look like guns solve everything.
Actually, it looks like guns solve nothing, except for 'ascending early'.

I see no reason to believe that 'ascending' is real. When the brain dies, it's over.
Still being kind to other people is the way to go, to make the world better,
where we spend our one and only life.
By #677384 at 30,May,23 18:01
It's not about that bro. I grew up hunting and fishing. The biggest reason I am not worried about death is because I would never hurt a human unless they had it coming. My dear old dad always had a pistol when we went up in the hills. It wasn't for bears or mountain lions dude. I don't hunt much anymore...in fact, there are baby deer born in my backyard every spring. Jesus said "split a piece of wood and I am there, turn over a rock and you will find me". When people don't believe in heaven or hell, then that's what you have today. Terrible crimes on children, genocide, war..these people must believe they will not be punished. I believe they will, THAT is why I'm not worried because I am a good man and I do unto others as I would like them to do unto me.
By #610414 at 31,May,23 12:26
Ivбn sacу, did Jesus also say, “Shoot someone dead and you will find me”? So, your “Dear Old Dad” went hunting prepared to shoot another human being? I’m sorry, I just don’t buy into your Christian/Gun philosophy.
By #677384 at 31,May,23 19:15
no my dear...I don't want to shoot anyone or anything if I don't have to, but I will. My dad was more concerned about bad people...they are everywhere. You don't have to buy into anything, and I still love you despite our differences. That was the whole premise about our country. BUT...I will tell you something....If I witnessed a gang of thugs robbing and beating anyone I would do something about it. There seems to be more and more of that. I am a kind man, I open the door for people, I say thank you and hello and I have respect for others. I'm not here to argue with you. I like you.
By #610414 at 31,May,23 19:30
I would try to help too. Not with guns
By #677384 at 01,Jun,23 20:32
well, I have been in that situation and paid the price. I witnessed an older woman getting beat up and robbed in a grocery store parking lot many years ago. I used my fists and nearly killed that fkr bare handed. I spent more time in jail than he did.




By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Jun,23 11:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
To you, guns are just tools, I understand, even though I grew up in the city.
If I would live in an area with bears and mountain lions, I would want to be armed. That's not the problem in your country, it's the people who think they need to be able to protect themselves in villages and cities, where the only danger comes from other people.
Allowing people to protect themselves from other people is also providing everyone with the most effective tools to kill other people. Maybe you wouldn't hurt a human unless they had it coming, but, isn't it clear that many people do hurt other people, who not have it coming?

And what does 'unless they had it coming' mean? Does it mean them ringing your doorbell at 10 pm? Maybe you are responsible enough to own a gun, but many of your countrymen don't. They might think you have it coming, when you keep stinking up the laundry, hanging outside in the neighbors garden, with your BBQ smoke. Or maybe they think you have it coming, when you cut someone off in your car accidentally. Arming everyone means arming crazy people. And I don't see your government do anything to restrict guns from crazy people or improve mental healthcare.
You don't have to fear death, but you're certainly at risk of it. Being a a good man who does unto others as you would like them to do unto you, is no guarantee against that. I remind you of how many innocent children get gunned down in your country. That doesn't happen anywhere else in the world like that.

"When people don't believe in heaven or hell, then that's what you have today."
Reality doesn't change according to your beliefs. Heaven and/or hell are either real or not. Do you care about your beliefs being consistent with reality, or would you prefer to believe in something that's not true, just for it giving you comfort?
By #677384 at 01,Jun,23 20:48
sooo, what happens to you...after your body dies? We are all sentient and self aware right? It is an eternal question. I will pose another. Some believe one can become immortal by installing a device and uploading their soul on the net or the cloud...allowed to float around in cyberspace forever..would you do that? I wouldn't. My parents are both gone now. My pop was a falconer, and he always said if he ever came back it would be in the form of a cooper's hawk. My mom loved butterflies and dragonflies. I choose to believe when I see a cooper's hawk in the back or soaring it is my pop saying hi. When a swallowtail butterfly lands on my arm it is my mom saying hi.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Aug,23 11:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
After my body dies and my brain dies, nothing that made me me remains.
I experienced full anesthesia several times. That felt like not existing, during that period. It would feel the same to be dead; nothing.

I can be wrong, but I'm not seeing any good arguments for why I should be.
I'm not going to live my life, believing something that I find illogical.

"float around in cyberspace forever" No thanks! First of all, I don't believe that would be me, but just a copy of me. Second; forever is too long a time for me. Everything will get very boring, before forever gets even close.
If I can add another 100 years to my life in health and strength, that would be very attractive. However, since humanity is doing its best to destroy the world,
I don't know If I would want to see so much of the future or even if all the rest of my life, that I hope to have, is going to be that pleasant.

I still have both my parents, but they are getting old. I will miss them a lot,
when they'll eventually leave me. I'm sure your beliefs could help that make more bearable, but solace is not a reason for me, to have any beliefs.

I'm sure many things will help me remember them. That's good enough.
My father and I share a little joke; whenever you do something good, you get a voucher for the canteen in heaven. I'm sure I will imagine him spending his vouchers, even though I don't believe in it.




By phart at 30,May,23 23:38 other posts of phart 
Well if you are correct, then nothing to loose if you croak and yur gone.BUT what if? what if by some chance,you were WRONG?
Then what?
I vaguely remember reading or hearing the greeks idea of hell was a person spending eternity doing something he could never finish.Like rolling a rock up a hill and get it almost to the top and it rolls back down.that sort of thing.I sure hope I don't spend eternity trying to get my shoes tied!
By #610414 at 31,May,23 12:28
Phart, very Christian of you. “I’m hedging my bet. He may or may not exist, but, what the heck. It don’t cost anything.”


By tecsan at 31,May,23 00:29 other posts of tecsan 
Sure, posters cost money. Ads cost money, when TV is commercialized.
That's the issue when you don't have public broadcasting, which is obligated to inform the public about political candidates.
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A gun damn sure keeps unwanted people off my property.
By #610414 at 31,May,23 12:32
Tecsan. The airwaves are owned by the public and federally regulated. Instead of having all the mudslinging we have now, the radio and tv could be made to provide free adds that deal with actual problems. There could be a committee that approves content.


By #610414 at 31,May,23 12:15
Ananas, it’s hard to wrap my brain in thinking death ends all of me. I believe in a cosmic like entity comprised of all the essence of passed living animals. What I don’t believe in is the reward or punishment part. Heaven or Hell exists here in our corporeal minds.
By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Jun,23 10:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's hard to wrap my brain around thinking to be conscious for ever.
Have you ever really thought about that concept?

How ever nice that 'life after death' would be, I would get bored eventually.
I actually prefer it all to end, just after a good and long life.
But, what I prefer is not an argument for what is real.

Consciousness is dependent on a functioning brain. Chemicals can change or stop your consciousness. Getting brain damaged makes people unable to perform thinking tasks that functioning brains can do, like recognizing shapes, or faces, or sounds, or retain memories. Those facts eliminate the concept of a soul. Have you ever been under full anesthesia? That part that you cannot remember, that's how it would feel to be death. How you felt 100 years ago, is exactly how you would feel in 100 years; nothingness.
It's a very simple concept to me. It's only a difficult concept for people who were indoctrinated with religious ideas. The concept of an afterlife or some form of consciousness after death is not based on experiences or reasoning.

Any idea how it would feel to be a cosmic like entity comprised of all the essence? Can you still think, see, feel, move and communicate? What is the benefit of being such an entity? Is there still a purpose into being, at that point? Why is it better than not 'being' at all?

Heaven and hell are just human creations to make people compliant.
By #610414 at 01,Jun,23 12:05
You misunderstood. I don't believe your essence would have the ability to think. That essence would be back in the proverbial soup. I don't know why it would be like that. My theory is from science saying nothing is ever wasted, just reworked. Well, then, why not our essence?
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Jun,23 15:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I have no problem with my essence returning to the proverbial soup. lol
Considering that my body will be cremated, unless they will think of something more environmentally friendly for me to choose, all my atoms will return to the proverbial soup as well.

I see our essence as data on computer memory. When the hardware is destroyed, the data is truly wasted. However, I can store some of those memories on the people around me and on society. And the impact I had on society will always remain, even if everyone who ever knew me is gone too.
I don't think much of me will remain, when humanity is destroyed.
I think that's the source of me caring about what happens to humanity,
after I'm gone.
By #610414 at 02,Jun,23 19:41
We go through life leaving behind at the place we've been something of ourselves. Sometimes we know what. Sometimes we are no even aware of it. I have two sons and a daughter. Between them I have four grandsons and three daughters. This, alone, guarantees that my touch and Charlie's touch will be there for eternity or until the last day of humanity.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Jun,23 13:16 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, you've got your DNA living on in the gene-pool after you're gone.
Except, for my brother having a son as progeny, we don't have that.
It was a conscious choice not to have children. Still, I care more about the future of humanity, than most people who do have children.

Even the majority of Americans accept the consequences of what climate science has presented. So either people are being ostriches or they think it's inevitable (it's not). Why are people not demanding from their politicians to stop following the road to oblivion? What we are leaving behind now, is the debt of not having done enough. Our generations will be remembered for the misery of future generations, for as many as there still will be.
We are being selfish, by using up all the natural resources and destroying all of nature. We are leaving progeny with a dying earth, with nothing on it, but toxic and nuclear waste.

If there's a creator, would he like the people who are destroying his creation?
I don't believe in a soul, but I still prefer to keep my conscience clean.
Strange how some of the strongest believers are strong supporters of selfishness and not giving a fuck about destroying the earth.
By #610414 at 07,Jun,23 13:33
You have a great understanding of the problems facing humanity. You are not that good at figuring people. You and Phart are two sides of the same coin. People don't do what's right unless they have to. They don't do wrong unless by chance. I'm talking about the average Joe. It's easy to understand global warming but, we have a BBQ party Sunday.😈
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Jun,23 13:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Phart expects everyone, but himself, to have the worst intentions imaginable. I am not. Why would I be a socialist, if I had no hope for people to be good?

Not having a BBQ party is not going to save the climate.
71% of the problem is caused by 100 companies.
Not even you or I being fully 'green' from tomorrow on, will help anything.

No one can solve this problem with personal choices.
Unless all the powerful people are making the right choices,
it's up to the 'good' people to make them make the right choices.
By #610414 at 07,Jun,23 17:04
It's easy to say. I believe that if enough people do the right thing, we would make some difference.
By phart at 07,Jun,23 17:42 other posts of phart 
But going back to something i posted a couple weeks ago and thinking about it,how do we know what we are being told to do is really a good thing? You remember the million tires dumped off your coast was a great idea back in the 70's for sea life reefs and such.Even Good year gave tires. now they are plucking them out of the ocean,where they can put them now that will be better I don't know.
Telling us today to use a solar panel may bite us in the ass in 30 years when ,material from solar panels has been shown to cause cancer or something along that line for example.
By #610414 at 07,Jun,23 17:56
Don't think I don't know what you are saying. But, Phart, we do the best with the information we have. If not, why do anything at all for any problem. We might as well stay home in our bedd
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I posted this elsewhere but this is a prime example of Everyone being told how good something they were doing was,only to find out it was a hoax. Big time.
By #610414 at 07,Jun,23 23:42
Phart, it happened again. Only half of the post is visible. Still, I was able to hit on it. You need the Microsoft app to read the whole article but from the little shown, it's about the recicling of plastic grocery bags. It looks like it was not very effective. This is not a prime example of doing something that wasn't helping. It was a scheme to make these stores out to be environmentally conscious.
I'm talking about getting an economical car or conserving water or not littering.
By phart at 08,Jun,23 03:25 other posts of phart 
The recyle bin for bags at walmart wind up in the landfill or overseas. only 4 of 12 tracking tags put in wads of bags actually made it to recycle.
By #610414 at 08,Jun,23 12:52
Surely that didn't surprise you, did it? It's not the environment. It's not the customer safety that they are interested in. It's the bottom line. Money, mula, etc.
This shouldn't keep you from trying to do the right thing.





By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Aug,23 12:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I agree with CAT, that we should do the best we can, with the available information.

There is however a difference between your tire story and solar panels.
The tires were claimed to be intended to build sea life reefs. How much of a NECESSITY was that? And how much did it save money, by just throwing old tires in the ocean?

Climate change is real, whether you chose to believe it or not. The only remedy is to strongly reduce our carbon emissions. Using the power of the sun, as an alternative to using fossil fuels, is the best option, to keep powering our current way of living, without killing nature and ourselves. That's something that justifies us taking more risks,
than when we decide what we do with old tires. Sea life reefs
are now dying in record pace, because of sea temperatures
comparable to a hot tub. Some old tires are not going to help.




















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No lives matter in Joe Biden’s world


By phart at 21,Jul,23 01:37 other posts of phart 
This is fun to watch!
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By #698361 at 13,Jul,23 17:02
most lives matter. there's always going to be a few who need to be put down. human beings matter regardless of their race, color, religion, or gender. i'm a white man who served during the vietnam war. i've encounter prejudice against whites in Hawaii. Royal Hawaiians at the top, then hawaiians, with whites at the bottom, blacks just above, and japanese and samoians above the blacks (because of their conduct during ww2). I've also encountered it against blacks, and did what was necessary to put a stop to it. being an old man, it pains to see the needless violence and hating going on. as for me, i'm just a retired sub bottom now, and a slave property of a black master.


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These are just some dumb motherfuckers, that's all you can make of it.
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With the asses in charge right now, what do you expect. Now working out in a gym makes you a white supremist. In addition to all their lunacy what is next?



By phart at 06,Jul,23 04:00 other posts of phart 
A black guy decided no lives mattered anymore, then he got his ass shot over 200 times!.
Long video but worth a watch,I had never heard about this
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True, long video and I had not heard about it either. But now with these libs in charge today Chuck Pitman would have been imprisoned for life or possibly worse.



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I wonder if I write "white" down on my ticket in the morning if the ladies will say anything? probably would walk out the door behind me and kick me right square in the ass.


By #610414 at 08,Jun,23 23:53
He's going down.👏👏😈👍


By phart at 01,Jun,23 17:01 other posts of phart 
They can't even have a funeral without a riot.
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What the fuck does he need with a tractor?
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They're funny. Have you listened to Jesse Lee Peterson? He makes me laugh but the man's a genius.
By phart at 12,May,23 23:06 other posts of phart 
I just found a couple folks on youtube today that i need to go back and listen to some more. alot of folks are starting to see what is really going on.
By #610414 at 21,May,23 22:43
A lot of folks already do. The highjacking of American values by a SMALL group of right-wingers.
By phart at 22,May,23 01:56 other posts of phart 
Small group of LEFT wingers you mean ,trying to decimate American values.
Do you realize that IF californicated was able to pay out say a million dollars to each black person, how bad that would be for the local and eventually the national economy?
The dollar wouldn't be worth 7 cents!
By #610414 at 22,May,23 03:11
Bet you are wrong, most would bank that money. More capital for investment. Or if they use it, the states economy would go through the roof. That's why when the economy is iffy they give out checks
By phart at 22,May,23 03:52 other posts of phart 
Really, well,
How could it go thru the roof?
All those black people would run to the car dealer and buy a fancy car,the car inventory would go to 0, and the remaining cars would sky rocket in value,
thus, the dollar worth less.
They would all buy a fancy house,building materials thru the roof,shortages, and by the way,there would be a labor shortage as you know none of them would work.
just all kinds of problems.
By #610414 at 22,May,23 12:12
Again, you are assuming. First, how much money you think they would get? Not enough to quit their jobs. Not enough to create shortages.
By phart at 22,May,23 15:16 other posts of phart 
You mean if you were flipping burgers at mickyd's and got a 151 million dollars you would continue to work?
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Some figures say 350,000 dollars, who knows, but if at all,is only deserved by those that can PROVE they are decendants of slaves,not all blacks are.
By #610414 at 22,May,23 21:33
If California goes ahead with it, it will mean a good chunk of change for the people that gets this.
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Do you think the state will need illegal aliens to fill positions in the hospitality. Food, and agricultural sectors?
By phart at 22,May,23 23:21 other posts of phart 
No, just automate those positions and forget hiring anyone.
And just where would this money come from? And just why is it only california blacks can have it? And will Transracial people be able to get it?
By #610414 at 22,May,23 23:53
I read the rules. Google it

By tecsan at 26,May,23 08:08 other posts of tecsan 
Sure, anything goes in the country of california. Remember, california is where anything goes.


By phart at 26,May,23 14:53 other posts of phart 
I think if they get anything,they need to get the promise they always refer to. 40 acres and a mule. 40 acres in Alaska and a damn mule.here ye are,now shut the fuck up and go.
The promise did not indicate where the land would be,or how old and healthy the mule would be,so any land will do,and mule will do.
By #610414 at 26,May,23 15:43
Would California PAY Alaska for the land?
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And what if they want a dog instead of a mule?
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Or, what if they want Okra and chitlins?
By phart at 26,May,23 18:46 other posts of phart 
Alaskas land probably still has alot up for homesteading. Free in other words.
The promise was not a dog, it was a mule, with the idea of the people using it to work a FARM.
They can grow okra and pigs on their 40 acres.
Again,just expecting the people to do something for themselves instead of being bums.
And who is going to pay for all the research needed to prove who is a descendant of slaves and who aint? Very few in california actually qualify more than likely.












By tecsan at 24,May,23 05:39 other posts of tecsan 
Thanks for the video phart . It was hilarious.
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By tecsan at 26,May,23 08:06 other posts of tecsan 
Maybe those that with BLM that got they're ill gotten gains should donate all of it to the dumb reparations.
By phart at 26,May,23 14:51 other posts of phart 
great idea. put the money where it will actually help black people



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40 years married,this is interesting reading,
"Jackson met his wife when the two attended Morehouse College. The two have been together for over 40 years (per People)."In the beginning, we always said the most revolutionary thing that Black people could do was stay together, raise their children with the nucleus of having a father and a mother, since everybody likes to pretend that that's not the dynamic of the African American family. That it's just children out here being raised by women, which we know is false," LaTanya said. "In order to change that narrative, we made a decision to say, 'We are going to stay together no matter what. We'll figure it out.'" The pair have even worked together, with LaTanya acting as a producer on Samuel’s projects (and earning her own salary on them).
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By #610414 at 21,May,23 22:42
Brilliant idea. Have the government FORCE private businesses to give 401k's to their Black employees. So simple. Why didn't anyone ever think of this? Perfect idea from a MILLIONAIRE, black or white.
By phart at 22,May,23 01:57 other posts of phart 
Why just the black?
That is racist.
By #610414 at 22,May,23 21:34
I agree. It’s one reason why it won’t work





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By #610414 at 21,May,23 22:33
That's a dumb question. Looters are forbidden in white areas. That's why riots are always in black business areas. Some people are dumb.
By phart at 22,May,23 01:58 other posts of phart 
Dumb for allowing it to happen at all.
By #610414 at 22,May,23 21:33
Who said people are smart?





By tecsan at 18,May,23 04:29 other posts of tecsan 
Obviously BLM means nothing but a payday for supporters of this ridiculous movement.

Look what defund the police did!
By #610414 at 21,May,23 22:38
What did it do? Do you know of any police department in America that returned any money's? Or any politician in America voting to cut police budgets? This, Tecsan, is an old Repucker Boogie Man story
As far as BLM, did they take your money under false pretenses? It sure seems that way as you worry so much about their financial operations.



By phart at 05,May,23 20:39 other posts of phart 
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You see, it can be done.
""It is an honor and privilege to be accepted to the Ivy League Cornell University’s College of Engineering in Ithaca, N.Y.," he added.
By #610414 at 05,May,23 21:15
Yes, it can. Now find 500 more like him and post it here.
By phart at 06,May,23 00:08 other posts of phart 
Why? Why can't the rest of them see this and think, "Damn mutha fucka, dats cud be mee!".
But I am willing to bet the average black person will start calling this guy a uncle tom if he comes out of college having freed himself of the victim mentality, that the blacks have been indoctrinated with for so long.
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By phart at 17,Apr,23 13:54 other posts of phart 
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If black lives matter,why do so many more die from gun violence under the age of 18 than all other races combined?
Black lives don't even matter to the black people,
By #610414 at 19,Apr,23 22:57
Who said it was formed for all black people to live by? That title or name is a description of a way of life. Similarly, if a group forms itself with the name " All White Lives Matter" there would still be murders of white people.
By phart at 20,Apr,23 01:09 other posts of phart 
Don't you see the irony in the black lives matter movement?
1 black person says their lives matter while the 1 next to them is killing another black person. They don't even value their own lives.
But yet,they expect whites and others, to value theirs.
Whites are developing this same lack of love for life as well.
By #610414 at 20,Apr,23 01:31
You are missing the point.
By phart at 20,Apr,23 02:05 other posts of phart 
So are you,perhaps there is more than 1 point?
By #610414 at 20,Apr,23 15:25
Let me ask you this: Do you expect other people to value your life? Do you expect black people to value your life when thousands of men, women, and children, all white, get murdered by other whites? It seems to me whites don’t value their lives either.
Black or white, is this right? That is the point. Not the BLM or the QAnon, or whatever has a lock on THE MAJORITY of people, black or white, that go through everyday life trying to live a peaceful and fruitful life.
By tecsan at 27,Apr,23 02:25 other posts of tecsan 
You know CAT. I really do not care about how others fell about me. But, I do respect others (no matter the color of their skin). I do not even think skin color makes a difference. I would not even think about it if it were not for libtards always bringing it up.

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I did not form the BLM lunacy, libtards did to keep everyone occupied while they do more goofy shit.
By #610414 at 27,Apr,23 11:45
Who started the KKK? Who started the Arian Nation? Who started QAnon? Witch president ordered police to shoot demonstrators? Who killed so many blacks during arrests when it wasn't necessary?
By tecsan at 28,Apr,23 04:10 other posts of tecsan 
CAT who mainly had slaves before the Civil War between the states.
By phart at 28,Apr,23 13:34 other posts of phart 
I want to commission a statue of Anthony Johnson. A prime example of a Black Entrepeneur who used the legal system to own 4 WHITE slaves.
I wonder how far I could get with that idea today?

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I wonder why we didn't learn about this man in school?
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,May,23 11:00 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's an interesting exception of the rule, but knowing about him doesn't make him or the practice of slavery right.

He wouldn't get far in the US, owning (white) slaves now, because slavery is prohibited.
He could just exploit his workers (legal or illegal) and make them fully dependent on him, by setting up a company in a poor area and bribe some local politicians to look the other way. It would be just as cheap as using slaves, without the hassle.
Slaves are hard to come by and when you don't feed them enough or punish them too hard for not working hard enough, they die. Especially illegal immigrants are an inexhaustible resource, which companies can exploit to death, with impunity, because Republicans don't believe in punishing companies and just blame the immigrants themselves and the Democrats for letting them in, while distracting their voters with a border wall and neglecting to mention that they will never close the gate for letting in the illegals going to their exploiters.

But it would become easier for an Anthony Johnson to exploit white Americans,
like slaves, if you keep supporting Republicans stripping even more rights and benefits for working, poor and unemployed people.
There are lots of 'right to work' states that already make is easy to abuse (white) Americans, but cheaper and without the hassle of owning slaves.
By phart at 03,May,23 14:11 other posts of phart 
Ah, so you do understand. you just explained 1 of the reasons democrats don't deal with illegal immigration. Illegals are the modern equivalent of slaves. It is not the republicans that exploit the slaves, it is the democrats. they hold the dream act in front of the young immigrants noses like a carrot. The dreamers as they call them,that were brought here **** and unable to decide their fate,are the only illegals I feel like deserve a path to citizenship. Just because you can swim doesn't mean you should be given citizen ship.
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,May,23 15:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I only see Republicans not wanting to punish companies for exploiting illegals and not wanting to provide a path to citizenship for illegals. Democrats want to do both. How can you twist that into supporting exploitation?

DREAMers got a chance to study and work in the US. That's not a carrot, that's actually improving their life, even if they have to return to their country of origin. They are not exploited. They are not working on a farm or as a roofer or in a meatpacking plant. And even if they would need to return to their country of origin, their chance to make it there would also massively increase.

It's bullshit Democrats don't deal with illegal immigration.
They are doing border security just as much, but they also provide a path to citizenship for real refugees and immigrants who have a chance to improve their lives in the US and would benefit the US in return. That's not exploitation, because they will no longer be illegals. They will become Americans and have a better life than would have been possible in their country of origin.

Your problem is that you think of any immigrant as an 'illegal'.
That's why your brain starts producing errors.
By phart at 03,May,23 16:40 other posts of phart 
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By #610414 at 28,Apr,23 14:35
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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Apr,23 17:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You keep bullshitting about the name Black Lives Matter.
It's just a name. Just like 'Advance America', is a name
for a conservative political advocacy group. I don't think any
conservative political advocacy group will ever 'Advance America',
I think conservatives are against any and all advancement.
If you hear me blabber on daily about their name and nothing more,
would you think I am a serious person, with valid points?

You know what the BLM moment is about; police violence.
A movement needs a name, and they came up with this one.
Could they think of any name that you would not BS about?

You keep arguing 'why are they angry that police kill them,
when criminals also kill them'. Maybe you don't understand
how stupid that argument is, but I'm sure some get it.

Of course they don't like it that criminals kill them,
but those are CRIMINALS. But the POLICE SHOULDN'T!!
Why should the police be the last to be expected not to kill people?
By phart at 20,Apr,23 19:57 other posts of phart 
If you are a mother, and you are against drunk driving, you join MADD, Mothers Against Drunk Driving.

Blm, black lives matter ,does not even sound like it is linked to anything police.
If the black people LEGITAMENTLY are concerned about police killing them as they commit crimes they should have come up with a name related to the subject.
By tecsan at 26,Apr,23 06:43 other posts of tecsan 
Think about the distraction they have caused. Remember, I do not think that any level headed person with common sense ever called for defund the police.

I say let them defund the police and make them move there. Hey, if they want to create a cess pool then make them live in it.
By phart at 26,Apr,23 14:17 other posts of phart 
The problem is cess pools have been known to overflow.


By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Apr,23 23:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm surprised you're not going of on that name;
"Why is it only Mothers who care about drunk driving?
Do fathers not care about children being killed by drunks?"
That's what your doing with the name BLM.

You're probably just angry that they think any lives matter at all,
if even children's lives don't matter enough, to do something.
By tecsan at 27,Apr,23 01:55 other posts of tecsan 
Read your comment again. Hell, I am confused with it. BLM is corrupt and you know it unless you are an idiot.

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Oh, forgot unless you are a dumb socialist and condone in breaking the law. Yes, face it. Socialism fails because of people like you.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Apr,23 13:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure there are some BLM organizers profiting from the money coming in,
that's a thing in any American organization. Guess what percentage of donations for building 'the wall' actually goes to building it.
And they could have thought up a better name as well.
But you can only come up with dumb critique on things like that.

That's a new one, that I condone breaking the law. Since when?
You condone treason, corruption, ra.pe and white board crime, for Trump.

Strange, how you say that socialism fails, when you also say that Democrats and all European countries are socialist. That sounds like you actually think that socialism is beating right-wing ass all day.


By phart at 27,Apr,23 02:18 other posts of phart 
Lives matter until they try to take other lives.
I don't know of a group of fathers against drunk driving.
Do you?
By #610414 at 27,Apr,23 18:29
Not as a group ut there are thousands of bars where every night a bunch of men drink and then go out and drive
By phart at 27,Apr,23 19:03 other posts of phart 
Yea, sadly so many men have nothing more productive to do with themselves than to get sloppy drunk and risk killing people.
Prohibition, I wish it had worked out,

By tecsan at 28,Apr,23 04:18 other posts of tecsan 
CAT I do believe that women (if you know what that is) also do the same in bars. My friend got hit by a drunk woman and I chased her down for the police, she was so drunk she drove through a carwash and got her vehicle tangeled in some railing.
By phart at 28,Apr,23 22:34 other posts of phart 
I hope she was held responsible for damages

By #610414 at 29,Apr,23 18:15
Tecsan, are you asking me if I noticed I have a "slit" between my legs instead of a funny Chrismas tree? Yes, women can be as bad as men. It's funny that for this there's equality between the sexes, but not for work pay



By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Apr,23 13:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Fathers probably support Mothers Against Drunk Driving too.
So that name is not accurate, it should be Parents Against Drunk Driving.

And if I was you, and didn't like what MADD stood for,
I would go on and on and on, about the name, just like you.
But I don't, because I don't care about the name of an organization,
I care what an organization stands for. I care about real issues.
By phart at 29,Apr,23 14:03 other posts of phart 
The name blm is very misleading. that is the issue .And it is a very corrupt group.
By #610414 at 29,Apr,23 18:15
So? What does that mean?
By phart at 29,Apr,23 23:20 other posts of phart 
Damn ,my last name aint webster but IF I see the words "black lives matter" Police brutality is the last thing that comes to mind.
I think of blacks taking care of their kids, not killing each other.Men not calling their women bitches and hoes. that sorta thing.
By #610414 at 30,Apr,23 01:18
You can think what you like. It doesn't change anything.
By phart at 30,Apr,23 02:05 other posts of phart 
thats right,the name is deceiving.
By #610414 at 30,Apr,23 02:10
And, yet, it's non of your business.
By phart at 30,Apr,23 02:26 other posts of phart 
Really ?why not? If they are expecting donations, if they are sponsoring economic terrorism or looting , Oh I mean those "peaceful protest" in my town,it very much is my business.
By #610414 at 30,Apr,23 11:45
Alright, let's say it is your business. What will you do if they come to town? Are you going to mount a demonstration?
By phart at 30,Apr,23 12:19 other posts of phart 
They would know they were unwelcome
By #610414 at 30,Apr,23 13:10
How? Add in the local newspaper? Picket their local offices? How?









By Ananas2xLekker at 03,May,23 10:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The name is not misleading, it represents how they feel.
They feel that their lives don't matter to cops, because they are black.

You would be right to say the name was provocative, probably intentional.
They don't want or need your approval of their name, because you will never be their ally. Their name has served them well, because your outrage over their name only encourages the people who support the movement and its message.

I see no evidence for BLM being more corrupt than what's standard in the US.
It's not transparent enough, for my likes, but we are talking about an organization worth around $40 million. There are a shitload of right-wing, conservative and religious organizations worth billions, that are less transparent than BLM.














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