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I also read this morning that biden caused problems for jimmy carter not wanting a appointee that had misshandled documents back in the 70's .So why ,if it was such a problem for him in the 70's that someone else misshandled documents,and it is ok for him to have them??
Makes no sense all these double standards coming out of the woood workes.It will soon become all but impossiable for the democrats to hide these double standard- Do as I say do not as I do situations.
You don't know what is in your closet?
You don't know what is in your garage?
Biden doesn't know what is in his garage?
or his closet or his "whatever".
He is filling the chair of the president of the US. He or someone should know where ever mouse turd is for security reasons.
And it is perfectly ok for there to be documents there?
What ever the outcome of this is ,I hope some new rules are put in place to prevent this from happening again.
You want the world to work in a perfect way. It just doesn't. So, now, what do you suggest? Do you want him to resign? You want Harris to take over? Do you want him to share lawyers with Trump?
It is just annoying that 1 man is crucified and another man is not for having documents in their home period,
Hell no I don't want giggles for prezident.
You have to admit,judgeing from the link I posted on another thread of this subject, it will become harder to keep this routine up before finally "SPLATT"
If Trump can't run for Prez,I will vote for the person he supports.
I can't support the current bunch, idiots, all of them. idiots.
BUT looky here why don't ye?
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Whats the damn difference???????
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In 2021, the U.S. population expanded at its slowest rate in history, and for the first time, the majority of its population growth came from immigration. So, despite four years of former President Donald Trump’s policies limiting the admission of foreigners, the United States is on track to reach its anticipated 2044 “majority minority” milestone: the moment when the majority ethnic group, non-Hispanic white people, becomes one of multiple minorities.
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Why is this racist? "live coverage on tv right now about January 6th is racist!". It's coverage of a historical event that happened two yrs ago today. DiSantis was re-elected in the last election and it's in the news. Is that racist? And how many non-whites did you see taking part in the January 6, 2021 insurrection? How many of those got arrested and are now being beaten in prison? BTW, if you are a cop, and you see a mob coming at you, and you shoot your weapon to defend yourself, does it matter if you are black or white or whether the perv is a black or white man/woman? I doubt it and whatever comes after is just that, what came after..
I call a nationalist someone who wants to support his country even at the detriment of other countries. A white supremacist is not that. That person wants other ethnic groups to be discriminated against. That is not good for his country. Wanting to be "separate" is a choice and no one would object........until that person starts to want other ethnic groups to ride in the back of the bus or demand a "white" and "non-white" public water fountain, public pools for whites only, public schools for whites only, and so on.
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Why J6 is racist is because white men were incarcerated (while inside denied medicine/health care, beaten) for petty insignificant so called crime while we had looting riots massive destruction by BLM & their supporters during a pandemic that didn't get any negative coverage in the news. It was actually encouraged. But the J6 was "historical" because they were all white and Trump supporters. As far as the white woman getting killed by a black cop that was never held accountable is racist in my book. You have your own belief CAT and the majority of people believe exactly like you do. I don't care either way what happens.
As for the gathering at the capitol ,I hardly call a bunch of folks with flags and funny hats a Inserection.
More guns would have been there,more people would have died,and a couple doors would NOT have stopped the group from their goals.
I can't say they were right in damaging things but that black cop was WRONG and RACIST and misogynist and he took advantage of a opportunity to kill a unarmed woman.
I would be happy to pull the switch on his electric chair,but I am sure the line for that job would be 10's of 1000's of people long.
cat, see if a white person in your family can get a scholarship to these schools.
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Ok, what does naacp stand for? Would you be welcome in that group Cat?
I am sure your membership fee would be but would YOU be welcome?
BUT, look,
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HUM< appears it don't work anyway?
complicated as it may be, no reason they shouldn't if they meet the criteria
The unarmed woman shot in the capitol building was murdered ,she was no threat .UNARMED
Had she been armed, I would look at it a bit different but others around her were armed but that black officer singled her out, I guess because she was half in, half out a window and defenseless ,unable to protect herself from him.
No, they were trying o instill fear, in turn get some results.
1 of the fellows I talked to that went was gathered near the gallows and had several photos of it.
looked sturdy enough but the folks were not armed that were near it, and some were eating hotdogs and having a good time.
I don't think the "threat" was real ,but good acting to try to instill fear in our leaders and remind they represent US and WE wanted a fair election.
What pisses me off is the fact our constitution says we have a right to a speedy trial. There are STILL people in jail,2 years later, denied bail ,healthcare and so on. WHY?
hell if what they "did" was so bad,why not move them to
Nuremberg and get on with the progra?>
I have to be tested for Covid too.
Calling Covid the 'China virus' and 'Kung Flu' is racist.
Restriction on people entering the country is not necessarily racist,
but if you have different policies for different skin-tones/races, that's racist.
I do agree that China pulls the racism card way too often.
The best way to react to that is telling them that it's not because they are Chinese,
but because their government is a bunch of authoritarian liars that we cannot trust.
that the chinese made,
does not do much to maintain credibility.
Although it would not get past the idea stage,all this makes a 3rd party much more desirable .but it would never make headway.
There is just rino's ,Trump haters, and ass kissers going at it right now. and America is loosing.
The 2'd inline is worse.
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Here is a real drug that is harming people.
I hope he is fried.
But really, if people are so dumb as to invest in a digital asset that can't be held, confirmed or even traded hand to hand, I am not so sure those people are smart enough to have money either.
Reminds me of that "artwork" that the artist sold for piles of money and then BURNED so it was only in the digital world.
The art was literally dots on paper ,kinda like a old dot matrix printer that was half out of ink!
People have lost alot of money and left wondering how to cope with the loss.
Edit,
I wonder if the democrats will give back the dirty millions?
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Taking him at his word, Bankman-Fried was able to direct at least $37 million to influence federal elections while evading federal laws that require disclosure of the true source of the contributions,
People have lost alot of money and left wondering how to cope with the loss.
"THAT THEIR GREED BROUGHT ABOUT"
Giving back contributions made to a political party, hmm, interesting. Sure you want to go there? Think about it. 🤣🤣🤣😈
Why do you consider investing being greedy?
Don't you have investments??
Without investing this world would be much smaller,with alot less tech,which thinking now,that may not be a bad thing,anyhow,investing is what makes things work.Nothing to do with greed.
Getting back to political donations, you, Repuckers, are not the only ones with screwy ideas.
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Broken link. Just search 'FTX.US' on only registered users can see external links
He's on their homepage as well.
In the 2022 senate election, FTX.US gave more to Republicans.
He's not a liberal, he just likes to corrupt all politicians, reps and dems alike.
That's basically what all plutocrats do, to keep the American system intact,
that gives them preferential treatment over everyone else.
Isn't that exactly what you want?
Don't you want those job-providers to have all the power to exploit people?
That requires bribing politicians, you know
Or if they are going to be hypocrites.
Republicans have pushed through every law that makes that corruption possible.
Democrats only started selling out, when Bill Clinton decided that Republicans had an unfair advantage taking all that money from the rich, corporations and lobbyists. They then became ALMOST as corrupt as the Republicans.
Even to this day, Republicans are funded way more by big corporate donations and super-PAC's, than small donors and the Democrats the other way around.
You never research any of the things you are saying, you just think "Republicans good, Democrats bad", and then fill in nonsense that just suits that false idea.
Let's see how much support a total ban on campaign funding would get.
If you run for office you have to put up your OWN money.
that would eliminate the poor and middle class from running for office real quick.
That would also allow for wealthy to take total control, something you oppose.
So that in the long term would be detrimental to the country.
Ok, so let's try regulating campaign funding?
That is not working because who makes the laws? lawyers,so they leave loopholes for themselves.
So propose a fair system,I will give it some thought to.
le'ts compare ideas.
Starting a new political party in my country costs almost nothing.
In my country, if you want to run for office, you either start a new party
or you rise up the ranks of an existing one. It doesn't take personal campaign funding and it doesn't require any wealth. It only requires you to convince people of your ideas. You go on talkshows and you recruit volunteers.
That way works great, because we have new parties all the time. It's just your two political parties that decided to work together, ban all other parties and work only to enrich themselves. But it was the voters who allowed them to do it.
You believed their lies that they needed money from the rich and corporations, and now they hardly need you and certainly don't work for you anymore.
You are just voting cattle to them.
Your system of legalized bribery incentivizes lazy people who are looking to get rich easy, to do the bidding of the rich and corporations, take a lot of money and screw over the people, who are stupid enough to vote for them.
Lets regulate campaign funding, so that corporations cannot put millions into the pockets of their minions and politicians are actually working for the people.
That's why democracy needs to be protected against money 'talking'.
Because democracy is about PEOPLE 'talking'.
Do you understand anything about democracy?
Ever heard of the term “One man, one vote”?
It means 'equal representation for all citizens',
not just citizens with money to bribe politicians.
and called him the 'safe candidate', because he is the elitist-approved Democrat.
He really is just a puppet and doesn't work to get any of his promises achieved.
At least, Biden did promise to improve the lives of working people.
What are the Republicans promising to do?
You just watch the Republican propaganda, so you might have missed it, but yes,
all the corporate Democrat propaganda was endorsing Biden and demonizing Bernie, because Bernie will cost their corporate owners a lot of money. So they called Biden 'the safe choice'. But he wasn't the the safe choice for dem voters, but FOR THEM.
Even if he did win, Biden will not achieve a lot, will disappoint Democratic voters and leave the country vulnerable to the next fascist, to destroy democracy.
It's your failure to understand anything past your own indoctrination, to see that Democratic voters are indoctrinated too. Both rep voters and dem voters are indoctrinated to think what the corporate owners of the media want them to think. That's either culture war bullshit for Republican voters and corporate-approved liberalism for the Democratic voters. No corporate owned media is telling people what they really need. That's why I always endorse independent media.
Just one example: "The incredible shrinking … Bernie Sanders?"
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That's CNN talking about a poll that included mostly old people, who by large margins supported Biden over Bernie, and left out young people, who did the opposite.
OVER double in price.
And that is the cheapest made stuff you can get that resembles meat. it is everything but the oink,cluck and moo from the grinder.
Thanks joe.
besides we get a good bit of our meat from Here at HOME anyway. so trade really should not be affecting it.
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Then you have gas prices going up and packaging goods coming from outside the US. There’s more, but, the tariff war with China is the main reason we are in this mess. Every economist told the Clown tariffs are bad and they don’t work but, like everything else, he knew it all and went ahead with it.
By the way, Smithfield was bought by the chinese is 2013.
A little before Trump became President.
It was done during the Hussein Obama administration.
SO yea, give me a thick slice of bologna grilled with cheese,mater and mayo and so cold sweet tea and I am a happy camper.
But you go there and get some GOOD sausage.
So, if you ever liked voting and plan to maybe do it again some day, and it not be just
for show, like in Russia, there is only one choice. And if you don't choose correctly,
then your only future choice will be Trump or some Trump-like figure.
It is a right so many died for you to have.
Don't dishonor them by staying home and not caring at all.
Everyone is not going to agree, that is why there is no less than 2 parties running for a office. What is missing is the ability of those 2 party's to work together for the common good.
One hint; nothing is more important than voting in the primaries.
That might prevent you from having to chose between two bad candidates.
You seem to be a very healthy male capable of driving, walking and so forth to a polling place.
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What's going on with the double postings
The real problem is the young people that could be or are running for office are to radical .Take AOC, not hard to look at, has a college education, and she is in a powerful position right now. but look at how radical her views are. very difficult to support someone that young with those views that are not based on any practical knowledge of how the world works.
That Green lady that ran again and won, she needs to quieten down a bit and just do her job. She runs her trap to much and makes her self look a bit silly.
There is a difference. 🤣🤣😈
To a diehard democrat, if the devil ran as a democrat,the diehards would still vote democrat.
I voted early for the 2020 thing in case i died before election day I would at least be able to do my part and vote Trump to save America.
Voting in person is so easy.
I even hand the lady my license so she doesn't have to ask my name and etc . Saves her time and me having to repeat it all 10 times.
Yea right.
Just look at all the fools paying union dues .
Tesla workers get the same benefits union workers get if not better. and they don't have to pay union dues.
They are just expected to do their jobs to the best of their ability and EARN the money.
And be honest, if people didn't have someone watching over them and encouraging them by whatever means to work, nothing would get done.
"Oct 14, 2020 — Analysis of the polling data shows that active union members are actually more Republican than non-union members"
Perhaps, they know conservative (like most employers) bosses will screw them without protection from a union.
BTW, you have a piss-poor view of your fellow man.
I have friends that have worked union jobs. Postal workers and others. Postal warehouse workers move a couple trucks full of mail, go sleep in their cars until another truck comes in. While yet another employee ,that has been asleep for 3 hours while the trucks were being unloaded, comes out and sweeps the damn floor. ALL THE WHILE< their pay check keeps coming.
Fire the floor sweeper and put the damn broom in the freight handlers hands is the smart thing to do ,but no, that's not their job and the union protects them from doing something other than their exact job. Fuck the fact the company is having to pay them a hefty wage to SLEEP.
Look at the recent rail strike threat recently. This country is just barely getting it's head above water after the wuhan virus thing and now the workers want MORE.
I have newspapers here from the 40's and some of the front page stuff ,is in reference to Rail workers wanting more money or more this and that.That is giving the union way to much power over the economy and the country.You know well as I do,if the railroad stops, trucks can't fill the gap entirely. So all those people have to do is whine and threat to strike and they get more and more and we as Americans, wind up paying more and more.
Give a Biden every time over that Clown. As a matter of fact, if it comes to that again, I will, AGAIN, vote for Biden.
Look at all the wasted military equipment and money we are handing ukraine, only for them to get nuked sometime shortly or be decimated by the destroyed nuclear plant.
Our oil reserves were filled while it was cheap, biden has blown them out our ass, the turkey i ate some of today was over 50 bucks! for a fucking turkey,we didn't pay that under Trump.
And etc.
But folks like you with piles of money aren't being hurt by bidens agenda. Until it takes something off your plate you won't care or understand.
Trump had a plan setup ,he also had the enemy informed of the consequences if they didn't do as agreed to. that much I remember.Trump had no fear of reminding people like the taliwackers and north korea that we as in the US had the bigger button. that instilled fear into those people that they best not mess with us.
I will give the taliban credit where it is due, they seem to be taking care of their country and not harming us lately.So long as they stay there and don't harm us, we should give them the same respect. What they do in their own borders is their bussiness. Not ours.
I can't remember complaining, I feel sure I did, but at the time putting out a small amount of oil wouldn't have hurt. But just opening the valve and not closing it has, and the shipping it overseas didn't do any good either .Releasing for use HERE makes more sense than sending it over there.
We need oil worse than we need jobs right now here in the US. Plenty of jobs,just no one wanting to work.
And yet that same report reveals that the U.S. imported 7.86 million barrels of oil per day last year. That happens because of a combination of economics and chemistry. The economics are simple: overseas oil, even after shipping costs, is often cheaper than domestically-produced crude.Mar 8, 2022
Just like BJUK.
Yea, I would say so.
Priority's people, think!Everyone else is,the us isn't.
But, your future isn't safe yet, because Democrats fight Republican fire with milk toast.
This fire can only be fought back with fire.
It's a no brainer right?
And, Yes, That Includes Melania.
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What a pathetic loser.
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I just wish the repubs wouldn't bog themselves into Jan 6 committee type shit and just drop some of these revenge issues and start fixing America.
Not much is going to get done the next 2 years but hopefully put out a wheel chock to slow down the runaway train.
We need to focus on healing our nation and it's people first,and stopping the bleeding will be a good start.
Can you do anything other than say 'inflation', without any argument why
if it was Biden who caused it, the rest of the world has the same problem?
Democrats proposed the Inflation Reduction Act and Biden signed it into law.
Where is the Republican Inflation Reduction Act or something to that effect?
Let's discuss their proposals for reducing inflation.
let's start with that 1.
By the way,before you say they will go after the big money not being paid in taxes,do you think the government will trust new hires with millions? no,the new hires will be trained on the middle and lower class people that are suffering the most.
Ok here you go, another issue.
UNDER BIDEN it says. Our oil reserves are the lowest since 1984.Yes the oil meant to help the US during wartime and other possible major disasters is being exploited to try to win votes to a short memories democrat base.
Florida's representative said,
""We have a strategic reserve for war, for in case of drastic emergency. It doesn't exist to bail out the president's party in an election year."
Seeing that Democrats never put up a fight, it will probably be horrible if Republicans even only win the house with the slightest majority.
Democracy is really on the ballot.
when Republicans were loosing their elections.
Trump wrote: “After the Race, when votes were being stolen by the corrupt Election process in Broward County, and Ron was going down ten thousand votes a day, along with now-Senator Rick Scott, I sent in the FBI and the U.S. Attorneys, and the ballot theft immediately ended, just prior to them running out of the votes necessary to win. I stopped his Election from being stolen.…” If that is true, it's a crime. What is true, is that Ron DeSantis narrowly won his election against Andrew Gillum, by just 30,000 votes, while 83,000 votes were deemed invalid. Really suspicious... Are Floridians so inept at filling in a ballot? It sounds like there is some truth to Donnie's claim and he really did steal the election for 'Ron DeSanctimonious'.
However, the largest reason for why the people don't decide who is in power anymore, is because they vote for the politicians and not for the donors who control those politicians. Your government doesn't do what the voters want, your government does what the wealthy and corporations want. Then there are lots of stupid people, who think what the wealthy and corporations want them to think, because of 24/7 pro-corporate propaganda on your corporate media. In most cases the election candidate who is backed by the most money wins. Apparently Americans are just stupid enough to let some mind-numbingly pointless commercial of a politician shooting something convince them who to vote for. Democracy begins and ends with the voters understanding democracy itself and having any grasp on reality.
When people are turned stupid by their smartphone, democracy dies.
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Melania is certainly not fucking him anymore. So WHO...?
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It should have been expected because he is recovering from a stroke.
Recovery from any brain injury is a long ,drawn out process and it has only been 5 months.It has been 17 years since my accident and I still to this day when under pressure can't come up with a word sometimes.Names,poof. and etc.
You may NEVER recover some things that were lost.
Perhaps he could be appointed to a committee or something to contribute to his followers for the time being?
The simple fact is he is not able at this time.
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Republicans are always telling people to suck it up and go back to work.
Fetterman is doing that.
In that debate, even though Fetterman has a speech impediment, he communicated more than Dr. Oz did. Dr. Oz is fully capable of speaking, but he communicated nothing.
And whatever he did say were either lies or evasions.
If you believed in democracy, you would trust the voters.
When I vote for someone, I vote for their ideas, plans and record.
I don't care what they look like or if they have a disability.
I do care that they are honest about it, and Fetterman is.
I also care that they are honestly answering questions, and Dr. Oz isn't.
One thing no one is talking about is “the sympathy factor’. Fetterman might pull it off just because he’s hurt and needs help.
""At the end of the day, I think it is selfish that John Fetterman is doing this," Gaetz continued, "because he's not going to be able to articulate any of his policy views. He's not going to be able to advocate forcefully on behalf of his constituents to federal agencies when they need help from the VA or with colleagues."
Read that and tell me something that will prove it wrong?
while he has been associated with sex trafficking of a minor,
should have been a reason for him to step down immediately.
Does he think he still represents his constituents?
It is wrong, because having a disability, especially a temporary tiny one, should not be a disqualification to run for office. And you would say the same for any Republican. Actually, I think Trump is less capable of communication than Fetterman,
and while Fetterman will get better, Trump will get even worse.
The dr looked in him straight in the face and said "this won't get any better."
and once you have a stroke, there is a increase in chances of you having another ,and another.
This is no tiny problem, this could well be a permanent problem that will only get worse with time.
"This won't get any better"
"Once you have a stroke, there's an INCREASED CHANCE of having another."
"And another"
"This is no tiny problem"
"It could be permanent"
"It will only get worse"
"Your pee pee could fall off"
"You might turn green"
It's good that after a week from the stroke he's able to communicate with you and see with his right eye. That doctor should go back to med. school to learn giving "HOPE" to a patient.
If you don't mind me asking; how old is he?
Is he at retirement age or does he still have to work for a living?
And if he is fit to work, is he not also fit to be a representative?
It might even be a job that would fit what he can still do.
Would you support his right to do so, if he wanted to?
He is a hard worker ,always has been.
As for hope,yea, I reminded him that Dr's PRACTICE medicine,that means even they admit they aint got it right yet.
Apparently his contractor thought he would be capable of being a consultant and he listened to his qualifications and experience,
instead of focusing on his stroke.
But you don't want the voters to decide between Fetterman and Dr. Oz on their qualifications and experience, but instead of focus on Fetterman's stroke.
Maybe you think Dr. Oz's qualifications and experience don't compare positively with Fetterman's qualifications and experience.
That might even be a bad strategy for people who do think Dr. Oz would do better, because it might be that most people don't like someone being judged unfit, because of a stroke. When you are pressed on it, you defend your friend for being a hard worker and swinging back from his stroke pretty spectacularly and making more money now. Other people might do the same for Fetterman and vote for him out of sympathy and for being judged unfairly.
'Yes Mr. billionaire, you are allowed to sell more loan scams.'
'Yes Mr. billionaire, you can evict people for one missed payment.'
'Yes Mr. billionaire, you can deny cancer treatment over a pimple.'
'Yes Mr. billionaire, we will eliminate social security.'
'Yes Mr. billionaire, we will eliminate medicare and medicaid.'
'Yes Mr. billionaire, I'll suck your dick.'
Did you get to vote for those billionaires?
That's the point of a government. Get it?
What the fuck is clean air in 300 years if we are hungry today??
The only thing they know is tax-cuts for the wealthy and deregulation.
Massive inflation? -> tax-cuts for the wealthy and deregulation
Very low inflation? -> tax-cuts for the wealthy and deregulation
High unemployment? -> tax-cuts for the wealthy and deregulation
Labor shortage? -> tax-cuts for the wealthy and deregulation
How smart and successful are they, if that's the only thing they know?
Ever seen a Republican bill to do something about inflation?
No, because they have no ideas and like it when people suffer.
Then they can blame Biden, for something Trump, Covid and Russia caused
and the whole world is suffering from.
Crops are withering away now, because of heat, drought and water shortages, not 300 years from now. Babies are still poisoned by lead and mercury in the US, because of deregulation of water quality standards. And your politicians only deny, deny, deny and blame the Democrats, while being completely useless
on anything important for people's lives. And are the billionaires fixing it?
What party is in charge in these citys that have the bad water? Didn't we talk about a city down south last month that has been democrat run for decades? ANd their mismanagement has bit them in the ass and now they want a bailout? And how long will the new stuff last considering their track record of lack of Maintenace??
Democrats always talk about building new and better and they do little if anything to take care of what is already there.You can't build something on a rotten foundation.
It's the fact that you still have people being poisoned by lead pipes, 30 years after the EPA regulated the amount of lead and copper in the water, that is embarrassing. There are still some privately owned houses in The Netherlands that have lead plumbing, but the national water grid is completely lead free since 2005. And we didn't have acidic water eating away at those lead pipes.
Six of the 10 states with the most lead pipes are Republican:
Illenois - Democratic
Ohio - Republican
Michigan - Republican
New York - Democratic
New Jersey - Democratic
Missouri - Republican
Wisconsin - Republican
Indiana - Republican
Texas - Republican
Minnesota - Democratic
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Your last statement is somewhat true, but you vote for Republicans who don't even talk about building new and better and never improved anything ever.
If we are talking about a rotten foundation, it's people who don't even want anything to ever improve, like you. You don't ask, so you don't get, except for things that do not improve your life, but only make the life of others worse.
Then Republicans are sure to answer your request, as soon as they can.
Actually I prefer politicians to make decisions on pure reasoning,
to decide what's in the best interest of their constituency,
but I'm sure you've never seen that before either.
Past generations were taught to default to the masculine pronoun he, called the “generic” or “neutral” he. The idea was that the generic he could represent either a male or female person.
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Sure, Trump supporters, keep pretending you care about free speech.
When you say, "Person x did this and is this", you should have to show where the info came from and be held accountable.
I mean really< just last week you 2 were talking about how great it was that a internet commentator was sued and is expected to pay 9 billion dollars. Now you are bitching because someone wants reporters held acccountable?
You can try to have it both ways but in the end it won't WORK.
says something.
Second: It's the right-wing media that misuses the first amendment way more.
Fox'News' is literally spouting Nazi hate-speech on a daily basis.
Third: The first amendment should protect journalist exactly from what Trump suggests.
He's a fascist who doesn't give a damn about your constitution and amendments.
He only accuses the media of lying, when they fact check his lies.
Fourth: Lying is not limited by the first amendment. That's why Fox'News' is just allowed to make up 'facts' to suit their narrative and because it's cheaper than doing actual journalism.
There are limits to free speech, they are clearly described, you should read it sometimes. But protection of sources is a irreducible freedom of the press right.
It's crazy how you compare Alex Jones to journalists. Alex Jones obliterated the
limits on free speech, and acted in harassment, incitement to illegal conduct and imminent lawless action, true threats. He also violated the limits on commercial speech, but he's not being dealt with for that apparently.
The press protecting their sources is the most important right of free speech.
There are two sides to this. Are you completely ignorant about the law or what?
[US law does recognize a number of important restrictions to free speech. These include obscenity, fraud, child pornography, harassment, incitement to illegal conduct and imminent lawless action, true threats, and commercial speech such as advertising, copyright or patent rights.] SEE? NOTHING ABOUT LYING!
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Anyway, lies degrade peoples reputations, guilt or innocent, once a lie is out there ,that person is negatively affected.
Aint that why alex is being expected to pay 9 million?
Well what is the difference of the media outlets telling lie's and ruining people reputations?
NONE. so media SHOULD be held accountable. Law? MAKE 1. Folks don't seem to mind making them for same sex marriage and killing babies .So make 1 protecting people reputations by holding media responsible for their lies.
George Bush was called that,Trump was called nazi, obamma was called nazi. Truth is, the people calling em nazi's wouldn't know a nazi if 1 slapped them on the ass with a 2x4.
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White replacement theory (also known as white genocide theory or “the great replacement”) has its roots in antisemitic ideology.
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The Long, Ugly Antisemitic History of "Jews Will Not Replace Us"
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MILLIONS of illegals are being allowed to come into the US. For what other reason would the democrats have of letting them in,if their party,and their cause,could not gain from it?
I am not going by alex jones or anyone else. I am simply looking at the border crisis as a citizen and deducing for my self what the cause and effects are of what is going on.
The meaning of 'illegal' is: 'not allowed'.
The Democrats did not in any way hinder border security.
It's true that Democrats give more immigrants legal status.
They still have the opinion that the US benefits from growth,
because your economy has a labor shortage.
Democrats also have the opinion that refugees are welcome.
You're just jealous that those immigrants get some help to build a life.
You could accept some help yourself, but it's your own opinion that
you are not worth any help and therefore you vote Republican.
Because you think the only people who deserve help are those 'job providers'
and everyone should just work like slaves, to earn whatever scraps they allow.
Your idea is that immigrants would vote for Democrats out of some gratitude for being let in the country or because Democratic policies help them thrive. That might both be true. But how long does that effect last? Do you think they will keep being grateful to Democrats, when, as you think, their policies hurt people? Or is it just that those new Americans don't vote for Republicans, because they didn't get indoctrinated for decades to think what you think. They understand that working people are better off with Democrats. And that's what you don't like.
You keep voting for team Republicans, because you are committed to them.
But especially in your situation it's totally against your own best interest.
And the only reason you have to fuck over yourself, is that Republicans also fuck over those non-white people, who just try to make a better life for themselves.
some white person is kicked out?
That's what replacement means. Right?
White people are not replaced, non-white people are added.
You are correct that non-white people are coming to your country.
That's a fact, I agree. However, hating that fact and using the rhetoric
of the KKK to spread fear about that fact and hatred towards those people,
is "white supremacy". Because you think those non-white people are inferior.
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Can you give an example of Democrats' anti-white rhetoric?
By the way, this topic started about Donald Trump proposing throwing reporters in jail, if they don't give up their source in the Supreme Court, who leaked that right-wing judges were preparing to overturn Roe vs Wade.
No, it's not the lying, that Alex was accused of. You could answer that question for yourself, with a simple internet search.
Lying in general is your free speech right, but lying to demonize specific people, intentionally to gain from it yourself and causing your target harm is illegal speech according to your laws.
"So make 1 protecting people reputations by holding media responsible for their lies." IT ALREADY EXISTS!!! It is called 'defamation law'.
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Free speech doesn't protect 'defamation'; 'communication of a false statement that harms the reputation of another'. Your examples, if the media would lie about those subjects, do not harm the reputation of a specific person or a specific small group of people, and cannot be proven to cause specific damages to specific people.
However, the for example, Matt Walsh was attacking Boston Children's hospital,
for 'cutting up children', and implying that people should do something about it,
causing crazy people to 'protest' that hospital and making bomb threats.
That could be a 'defamation' case, if plaintiffs could give evidence that the 'protesters' were encouraged by Matt Walsh, suffered damages and Matt Walsh should have known what he said is not true. Since Matt Walsh is doing 'journalism', he has the obligation to investigates claims about wrongdoing, before he accuses specific people of wrongdoing. There is a difference between the responsibilities of random Twitter users and someone like Matt Walsh, who is a political commentator, author and columnist for The Daily Wire.
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What is also important to know, is that Alex Jones did not lose his case, because the judge decided his speech was really 'defamation', but because Alex Jones didn't provide the information that was requested from him by the judge and opposition lawyers.
In a defamation lawsuit, the 'innocent until proven guilty' part works differently, because it's a civil trial and not a criminal trial. If the plaintiffs have a strong case and the defendant doesn't defend themself convincingly, the judge will side with the plaintiffs. You could say it isn't even a free speech matter, it's a damages matter.
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thinking he will turn Twitter in the free speech Valhalla for right-wingers.
Have you ever considered how that affects Trump? He has a lot of money invested
in Truth Social. What do you think will happen with Truth Social if there is no reason
to be there anymore? It's not like Trump's other businesses are doing great.
He needs the money, you know.
Or how about poor Kanye West who wants to buy Parler, if even he is crazy enough.
Money is made by investing in start up companys and selling them.All the ground work is laid.
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well. maybe not kill him.. but certainly put his life in danger
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Only gullible people believed he actually had any legitimacy as TV doctor, of which actual professionals said: "No other show on television can top The Dr. Oz Show for the sheer magnitude of bad health advice it consistently offers, all while giving everything a veneer of credibility.".
The only people who think his career as TV doctor gives him legitimacy as politician
are the only people who still believe such scammers; the Republican voters.
a liberal democrat.
So if she trusted him enough to put him on tv,what does that say about her? Can you trust her?
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You learn from your mistakes. That's something you righ wing Trump supporters haven't learned yet.
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or thinking about 'stuff'. She's intelligent, but pretty ignorant.
Oprah Winfrey has long insisted that she is apolitical.
She has endorsed Barack Obama, but off course, that was expected of her.
Her political views on 'The View' are a mixed bag. Some of her views were praised by conservatives. Most of the time that I saw her speak on the view, I just found her very ill-informed. But, she did surprise me with some liberal ideas once or twice, so sure, you can call her a liberal Democrat, but she is surely not a progressive. And I found they idea that she would run for president ludicrous, because she would have no idea how to run the country. I bet her campaign would just be completely devoid of ideas and just focus on; 'I'm Oprah, you like me, don't you? So, vote for me!'.
So, you can trust her to be nice, but no one should trust her political instincts.
Pennsylvania is fucking poor and the people want someone who understands them and is honest, not some snake-oil salesman from New Jersey.
Here is a documentary about poverty in Pennsylvania.
What the Hell Happened to Pennsylvania? Episode 1 - Chester, PA
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Or just watch a 2 minute video of John Fetterman telling about Braddock, where he was mayor for 10 years. Tell me if it is anything like videos of Republicans. Actually,
I would love to see a video of a Republican who actually shows some caring about working class people, without just saying so. But I'm sure you cannot find one where they don't blame the Democrats in the first 30 seconds.
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Here is John Fetterman explaining the challenges of a town like Braddock on TEDx:
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He has been a mayor for 10 years and during that time, improved the city of Braddock a lot. You're just showing how shallow and partisan you are.
If a nice suit impresses you, you are a prime target for scammers.
But your political choices show that you are poor judge of character.
I advice improving your judgement skills, because it could hurt your business.
'the democrats way of doing business'? You mean bring jobs back to your city?
Because that's what John Fetterman did.
And Dr. Oz is just a medical professional who sold his reputation
to the highest bidders.
Here are articles about Dr. Oz, from long before he ever thought about politics.
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If he didn't save a person who was having medical problems,
while he was around, he would loose his medical license. It's his job.
But he probably sold them same snake-oil afterwards.
But I hope it doesn't help him win, because that will cause lots of suffering.
Because he still is a rich scamming quack who doesn't care about normal Americans, but only about rich people like him.
is calling people who you disagree with 'loony'.
at the end. Those 'questions' cannot be answered without corrections of
your madness or indicating that your comments are lacking substance.
When I don't answer a 'question' that is not clear, than that's not dodging.
If I don't answer your attempt to change the subject, that's not dodging.
If you call every Democrat or Democratic candidate 'loon', than it's not clear who you are referring to. I have not heard about John Fetterman giving a speech, so were you talking about Biden?
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He will probably save the tie for very special occasions.
He's explaining his aphasia from his stroke in this short video:
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Debate with closed caption? Really? How will he address a group? will he be able to make logical decisions under pressure?
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If he wants to be a community activist or something go for it,but the people need a able bodied man with a clear brain to serve public office.
YOu don't want Fetterman to catch the same hell biden catches do you? He will and and it won't be unfounded.It is sad the man had a stroke,but he needs to understand his limitations.
anything positive to say about the snake-oil salesman Dr. Oz.
Dr Oz has a history of lying himself into riches.
I know you trust conmen, but most people are smarter.
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'Compassion, Generosity, and Hard Work' Are those dirty words to you?
Only the first two, I imagine.
Wearing a hoodie in alot of the photos I found of him like some of those street rioters and punks that walk down the streets at night that have uzi's under their sweaters.
IF you are going to run for a office,at least try to look decent when in front of the people.You are representing them.Look good and look PROFESSIONAL.
He looks like he just got off from work as a janitor at the local biker bar.
So who is seeking approval from punks with uzi's under their sweaters?
Oh, I see,... it's the sweaters you are worried about.
People should wear their uzi's under their three piece suits.
You're just showing that you are shallow and don't care about values.
Dr. Oz was on Oprah and wears suits, John Fetterman has tattoos, so.....
I support Peter Kwint, because of his ideas and values. He's a real socialist.
He was reprimanded for wearing an open t-shirt, showing his tattoos.
'Mister Kwint, where is your jacket?'
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I also support Lilian Marijnissen and Renske Leijten, because of their ideas and values, not for being good looking ladies who always dress impeccably.
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I don't support a slick looking grifter like Thierry Baudet (who is lying about his support of Putin, for money), because of his ideas and values.
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Maybe you see a guy in a nice suit. I see he's lying, just by his body language.
(He is arguing that Russia is no threat to us, while calling people naive).
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On his left arm he wears a tattoo of the zip code of Braddock.
On his right arm he wears tattoos of the people who got killed by gun violence,
while he was mayor of Braddock. He wanted to remember those victims,
so they would act as a constant reminder to improve safety in his community.
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Know any Republicans who care that much?
Building the 'socialist dream' requires diligently working for people.
Building the 'capitalist dream' requires sitting back and letting the wealthy and corporations take control, destroy the unions even further and destroy democracy.
Or do you think deregulation and cutting taxes requires any effort?
It's not even necessary, just sit back while corporations violate pollution and
job safety regulations. Just sit back while corporations and the wealthy cheat
on taxes. Just cut the EPA and IRS and the 'capitalist dream' is that much closer.
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Maybe you don't smoke, I don't either, but do you agree that people should not be disqualified from a job application because they smoke?
NOT fair to the workers.
BUT I do feel like their health insurance should be higher and if their second hand smoke harms others they should be held liable.
Smokers already pay for their own costs. They pay lots of taxes and die younger, which saves a lot on social security. The government loves smokers.
I agree that second hand smoke should be minimized. That's why I'm glad smoking is banned in public places and in work places. I don't think you can ban people smoking at home and poisoning their children. We can only ask smoking parents to not be idiots. There is a level of child abuse society allows, like teaching your children religion or right-wing conservatism. Unfortunately it's just up to the children to eventually recover from those forms of child abuse. We can only do our best
to have education provide an antivenom. Sadly, you support the venom.
And apparently you would also trust him to uphold his values.
Dr. Oz is not transparent about who he is and what he would do at all.
He can only be trusted to plunge the people of Pennsylvania in further misery.
Sucks for you if people democratically elect a senator, who is completely open about
his values, which you call socialism. People either understand that it's not socialism
or they like socialism. At least it looks like his 'socialism' is doing pretty well.
Or Pennsylvanians just don't like scamming TV-doctors from New Jersey.
So, if people like what YOU are calling 'socialist BS', than you are telling people
they can trust John Fetterman to do what he promises to do.
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John Fetterman once voted to release a man sentenced to life in prison for killing a man with garden shears in a parking garage.
The convict, Charles "Zeke" Goldblum, also attempted to hire a hitman to kill his accomplice in the brutal murder.
He murdered a man with shears, that is brutal,he had to stab and stab,blood gushing,he coulda stopped at one or 2 but no 26 times. And this fetterman wanted him loose on the streets to kill again. Fucking liberals and thier softness on crime. IF only the liberals were the victums and they had to feel the pain,the loss, maby then they would look at things realistically and leave bad people LOCKED UP>
Innocent people are convicted all the time.
John Fetterman is convinced he was innocent and I'm sure he investigated it
better than you have.
That is how the justice system works. Unless there was new evidence that cleared the shadow of a doubt criteria, leave him locked up. 1 old bald hippies opinion should not be all that is required to free a killer.
Oh really? Wow, I didn't know that.
And off course it never makes mistakes then.
Just before he died, the victim said that someone else did that to him.
That statement is known in the law as a “dying declaration.” It is typically given significant evidentiary weight, as it is presumed that a person on his deathbed will tell the truth. Nonetheless, the jury believed the defense of the person accused by the victim, over the defense of Charles Goldblum and he was sentenced to life imprisonment for the murder, plus 15 to 30 years on other charges.
If you think this is a clear-cut case, you are just biassed.
And even if he was guilty, after 45 years in prison, he had served his debt to society and they concluded that he was no threat to anyone.
I would have also agreed if Trump had signed his pardon.
However Trump still kept calling for the executions of the Central Park 5,
when they were exonerated by DNA evidence.
so I guess you want to see this guy get turned loose to?
"''we — the families, the survivors, and people that were at the school, and the whole community — were given a life sentence by the shooter and didn't have the opportunity to get a second chance, a reduced sentence."
And I'm not interested in doing that. That was Fetterman's job however.
It's just 100% predictable that Republicans would try to use that against him.
Gov. Wolf commuted Charles Goldblum’s life sentence after almost 45 years in prison. Goldblum is 71 and has health issues. Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, former mayor of Braddock, chairs the state’s Board of Pardons. Fetterman said that it served no purpose for Goldblum to remain behind bars.
“I think it’s important that mercy must be a partner to justice,”
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That's what the pardon system was intended for, not for having a president preemptively pardoning his partners in crime.
Lack of compassion for the victim.
Are you even afraid of a 71 year old with bad health? Jeesh!
I think real life sentences are cruel and unusual punishment.
The need for a fair justice system outweighs the wishes of victims.
You think the victims wishes are of no consequence?
The victim had no choice. The crook DID. The crook did not have to commit the crime.They had a choice. That is the issue.
Read this qoute again.
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"''we — the families, the survivors, and people that were at the school, and the whole community — were given a life sentence by the shooter and didn't have the opportunity to get a second chance, a reduced sentence."
YES, EXACTLY! Punishment is decided by the judicial system, not the victims.
Are you still living in 1750 BC Babylon? Like all republicans, you have no idea what 'law and order' means. Try to actually understand The Constitution.
The judge should take into account how much suffering the perpetrator has caused and then decide the punishment accordingly.
Than there is the state’s Board of Pardons who decides that punishment has been served, after 45 years. If you are against the Board of Pardons, that's your opinion, but that has nothing to do with John Fetterman, unless you can show that he violated the principles of the Board of Pardons. If not, than he just did his job.
You think 45 years in prison is not a deterrent?
Your right-wing policies are forcing people into crime, because people
cannot live on the low wages right-wing policies create.
Every country with more liberal justice than yours has lower crime rates.
His home town newspaper is asking him to disclose his medical records. If he is fit for duty,what the hell would he be hiding if he doesn't?
I suffered brain damage from impacts to the head from a accident. I would love to run for a political office and do my part to improve my community,state or more. BUT knowing I have health issues that are brain related,I would NOT willing put myself in a situation that it might cause hardship from a bad decision.
Think back to when Dale Earnhart jr had his brain injury. He retired from racing for safety. similar to this fetterman fellow, even if his intentions are good,he may not be fit for office.
He's out talking to people and recording ads.
Everyone can hear he's fumbling up a word sometimes.
He even made a joke about it recently:
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It is absolutely clear that his mind is not affected by his stroke.
The people in Pennsylvania know what is their problem.
They have been lied to by grifters like Dr. Oz all their life.
That's why they are poor as fuck and why they demand a change.
John Fetterman will give them that change, because he cares about them.
Dr. Oz only cares to scam them, because that is how he became rich.
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Looks like a conflict of interest.
The voters decide who's OK to work. It's called democracy.
If voters can say Trump and Biden are OK to work as president,
than there is absolutely no issue with John Fetterman becoming senator.
Especially considering the alternative.
this is not a bad leg or arm,this is a BRAIN issue.
Join a volunteer group to raise awareness of brain injury and stroke or something.but not be in government,
no legs ,no problem. etc.
it is the brain with fetterman that is in doubt.
And the fact we have the current 'resident ,Captain Dunsel in the white house proves that democrats do not rate brain function as a necessary trait for the position of President. So I guess it doesn't matter for lower offices.
fetterman can't communicate or comprehend as a normal person and is having to use a screen to get the messages said to him.Will it improve with time? or will it get worse?
to quoute Clint Eastwoods Dirty Harry, "sometimes a mans gota know his limiations"
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Crazy there is no work limits.
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"This week, NBC News’s Dasha Burns said that Fetterman seemed unable to participate in preinterview small talk conducted without closed captioning,"
question is,will this improve or get worse?
If he is having trouble understanding and responding to questions,at the very least,his issues will slow down a already painstakingly slow process of government
He understands the problems and how we got here and the effects of lousy government.
Meet Bernie Marcus, the 90-year-old billionaire founder of Home Depot, who is a major Trump donor
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How did I know that?
What's wrong with starting a company and being successful?
But, let me say this, "Even though he was responsible for a better economy, I can't approve of a president who acted the way he did.
election interference.
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He says he's Pocahontas, but he's actually Pinocchio.
Sadly from what i understand they do not work well to cipher Indian blood specifically to the tribe
The sheer will to survive is a trait that even the lowest of beings has .
But Herschel Walker is extraordinarily crazy. And that's saying something, after the world has been witnessing the Republicans emptying insane asylums to fill their party.
And they will be taught the Bill of Rights, The Constitution and the Amendments.
That's probably the reason why most of them vote for the Democrats.
But Herschel Walker, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert and Matt Gaetz
will never understand the Bill of Rights, The Constitution and the Amendments.
Even a Dutch guy understands 'liberty and justice for all' better than them.
not every jack ass that can swim.
I'm not saying you have to legalize every immigrant that can swim. Just be generous to real refugees, allow in people who add to your economy and who the US is easily capable to absorb. Send all the rest back to where they come from.
Don't let immigrants rot in the desert, don't let them walk around your country
and don't let them be exploited by farms. Just register them as soon as they arrive,
give them shelter and process their application for legal status as fast as possible. Then either let them in and start their future in your country or send them away.
Is this an extreme position? I think it's not.
It's the same standard I have for my own country.
But if you were turned loose from a prison in mexico and sent up here, and all you had to do was lie a couple times to get to stay,you would probably lie thru your teeth wouldn't you?
just sayin'.
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Walker’s team knew of an abortion allegation months before it surfaced
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I was able to talk with a inmate out on work release 1 day many years ago and he said he was in jail because they considered him a dead beat dad.
He went on to say the last few times he saw his son, the boy was barefoot, dirty and hungry .But the mother was driving a new Cadillac. He confronted her about the boys health and well being and she told him to just shut the fuck up. the county wouldn't do anything about it. So He decided jail was better than seeing his ex-wife waste the money that was supposed to be used to care for the child. When he was in jail, the state's money was being used to care for the boy, and the state took interest in how the money was used.
thus making a better life for his son. Sad the system is so screwed up. A woman should get some funds to care for a child no doubt,but she should have to account for every dime spent.
Being called a dead beat dad is derogatory and the conditions leading up to his not paying should be taken into account before judgement is passed.
that the most important point was that Herschel Walker most likely forced a woman,
who is also the mother of one of his children, to have an abortion, while he is saying
that he wants to ban abortions, without any exceptions.
That means he is an absolute hypocrite, as well as a deadbeat dad.
like he paid for her previous abortion. However, it's the woman's choice and she decided to give birth to the child and care for it. Then both parents are responsible to care for the child, but he was forced by the courts to do the minimum.
I have no idea what you're talking about, because it's not applicable
to Herschel Walker or the mother of the son he never wanted.
The whole case is just applicable to Herschel Walker propagating
a full ban on abortion, with only one exception; all the women he fucks.
As for Mr walker, people can change their mindsets can change with lifes experiences. Perhaps he regrets what he did, and doesn't want others to deal with the aftermath of those decisions.
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Or he's just not doing his job anymore, until the end of his term, because he lost.
Well fine, deduct it from his salary.
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Now be honest,does he look like he is in good shape??
Looks lost as a white elephant in a blizzard
Actually he's forgetting some things, it was hard to keep up.
Keep watching the whole video, if you want to comment about it.
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that you must internalize the following definition of socialist:
"Someone who actually wants to help people create a better life for themselves"
And you puke over even considering that whole concept.
PUT the "less fortunate" back to work, make it illegal to quit high school so we won't have any more uneducated DUMBASS"S walking our streets unemployable .and etc.
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Let's go back to what SYC AND SYD is about.
HAD lincoln left the Confederacy alone, we wouldn't be having this discussion.
They had already became dependent on the Americans.
Besides that, what was so humane about freeing the slaves, throwing them out to the wolves with no education, no homes ,nothing? Leaving them to be taken advantage of on up until modern times??
How many slaves went to Liberia?
Between 1820 and 1864, only 11,000 African Americans emigrated to Liberia (4,000 free blacks and 7,000 former slaves who gained freedom by agreeing to emigrate to Liberia).
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Equating human beings with pieces of machinery is about as crass, and stupid, as you can get.
The modest numbers that went to Liberia is ZERO excuse for the aberration that is slavery. ANY, repeat ANY, justification for one human owning another is deplorable. I hope you don't mean what you say. The alternative is that you are a fucking horrible person.
I understand equating humans to machines is not the finest way to explain a point but it was the simplest and with folks like you,I have to make it simple.
The average male slave cost about 3500 dollars.
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So you do the math,
that was alot of money.
Again,the only logical way to explain it is it did not make economic sense to abuse a slave.
Excusing slavery on economic grounds, or any other grounds, is despicable.
You can't seem to understand things were different then than now.
IT was LEGAL. It was wrong of course, but it was legal.
but to claim abuse of slaves ,without proof, makes it seem people were stupid and deliberately damaged their property.
I was simply explaining it in a way even your simple mind should be able to grasp. It was a different time ,a different lifestyle ,different mindset than now. You can't think "now" and understand "then".
And people like yourself fail to understand, airplanes fly back to Africa every day Are blacks leaving? They are free to? But are they? No, they know they have it MUCH better here today, due to the sacrifices of their ancestors ,than they would be back in their nation of origin.
The modest numbers that went to Liberia is ZERO excuse for the aberration that is slavery. ANY, repeat ANY, justification for one human owning another is deplorable.
I guess I'll be crass too. Those 11,000 free blacks and those that were freed former slaves is not enough to make a dent in a continent that has millions upon millions of people. The majority of American slaves between 1820 and 1862 were born here. They were slaves in their own country. Liberia, like most of Africa, suffers from poverty, undereducation and little infrastructure, and that's today. In the 1800s there was a lot less.
Putting a dollar amount to a human being to show how well treated a slave was treated is evil. One of the biggest injustices was the fact that when slaves got their freedom, the former owners did not help them to merge into American society.
Sherman was a horrible person. So you say, but, his job was to win, and he did. He said the following.
We are not only fighting armies, but a hostile people, and must make old and young, rich and poor, feel the hard hand of war, as well as their organized armies. I know that this recent movement of mine through Georgia has had a wonderful effect in this respect. Thousands who had been deceived by their lying papers into the belief that we were being whipped all the time, realized the truth, and have no appetite for a repetition of the same experience.
Today many, especially in the south, remember Sherman as a cruel man who burnt the homes and crops of Georgians, forcing them into poverty and starvation. Debates continue to rage today whether he should be considered a war criminal, or simply as a general who knew now to end the war.
Whatever he was, it doesn't excuse slavery and all the discrimination of blacks that came later and to this day.
That has no bearing on rather you agree or not with what is going on,be it slavery or murder, it just means you understand it.
The sad reality is,people were putting dollar amounts on other people long before we were born.
I am not comparing humans to machines because I agree with the ideas of the 1800's.I am trying explain the mindset of the people at that time.
what part of,
"NOTHING in what I said excuses it.I am simply explaining it."
is so hard for you to understand?
Rather we like it or not.
Rather we agree or not.
Nothing we can do to change what happened then.
But perhaps if we accept the fact that the people did not operate under the same rules as we do, perhaps we could also accept the fact they did not feel they were doing wrong.
It is wrong now,but it was not wrong then by the living standards of that time.
And what evidence can you show us that they knew it was wrong?
only 1 can exonerate ,and it will be a while yet before it happens.it is called judgement day,that is if you have any religion.
for brave 1,there is a deep hole when he is finished.
You really are a fucking idiot. At about the time the US became a Nation people were already campaigning against slavery. Do yourself a favour - read a fucking book now and again.
Alternatively, Google the following:
James Oglethorpe
Granville Sharp
Hannah More
The Somersett case of 1772
The French law of 4th February 1794
The Slavery Abolition Act of 1833.
ALL, repeat ALL, predated the American Civil War. People have known that slavery is despicable (and that people are not analogous with tractors) for a lot longer than fucking idiots, like you, are aware of. Fucking idiot.
I'll settle for my "deep hole" if the alternative is believing fairy tales. You can take your Ephesians 6: 5-8 and shove it up your arse. Repeat - you're a fucking idiot.
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Central Europe was the most favoured destination for importation of slaves alongside Central Asia and Bilad as-Sudan, though slaves from Northwestern Europe were also valued. This slave trade was controlled mostly by European slave traders.
I don't care whether US slave owners "learned it from" Vikings, Asians, or Mickey fucking Mouse! Fucking idiot.
Oh yes it fucking was, you ignorant turd.
On a wider point: that's what I see as the difference between conservatives and progressives. Conservatives seek to conserve the status quo (because it enriches them), progressives seek to make progress so that we can all live better, more enriching lives.
My only hope is that phart ends up qualifying for a Darwin award and doesn't pass on his genetic material (or views) to another generation.
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Where he again confessed that he stole the documents.
Has he explained WHY already? That would be informative.
Off course he accused Hillary again, who was guilty of being not transparent with
her e-mails, while she was never president. Trump WAS president and was ALSO not transparent with his e-mails. So were Ivanka and Jarod, who had equally important positions as Hillary ever had. Jared Kushner was called 'Secretary of Everything'.
Hillary's e-mails were the reason to chant 'lock her up'.
If the courts had decided to do that, that would've be fine with me.
Trump did much worse crimes. His crimes are unprecedented in US history.
You would say 'LOCK HIM UP' too, if you weren't a partisan hack.
Also the partisan hacks are the 1's that kept the "hunter laptop" under the radar long enough to get biden in office when that laptop proves our p"resident" is owned by the russians and chinese. PROVES IT, not hearsay like with Trump.
Working people should be concerned that they might become too lazy, if they vote for things like infrastructure, education, healthcare, childcare and the energy transition? Damn that's stupid. And your disrespect for your fellow Americans is shocking.
Hunter doesn't fall under the Freedom of Information Act, because he's not part of the government. Jarod and Ivanka were and misused their position in the government to enrich themselves in ways that Hunter can only dream about. I'm sure many crimes are uncovered when Jarod and Ivanka get investigated. If it was a crime to just use the name of your father to get cushy jobs, all of your politicians and their children would be guilty. The difference between what you consider proof for Republicans and Democrats is incredibly funny. A few confusing mails of Hunter are good enough to arrest all Democrats, and boxes full of secret documents being stolen and missing and than having lawyers sign off lies that all of them are returned, by a Republican shouldn't even be investigated. The term 'hypocrisy' falls short.
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At least she is a legitimate whistleblower, exposing crimes by the government.
Trump is a traitor who planned to change the election results with fake electors and organized an insurrection against the government, where a riled up mob was planning
to hang the vice president and all the Democratic party members they could find.
Favoritism is an incredible understatement.