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By Mongo at 06,Oct,24 05:24 other posts of Mongo 
Honestly, this Russian pilot deserved to be shot down 🤷‍♂️


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It was international airspace from what I understand
By phart at 06,Oct,24 11:53 other posts of phart 
Just proves the russians are not as dumb as we are indoctrinated to believe. The day you dismiss the russians as being stupid and not a real threat, is the day they will take your lunch bag



By phart at 06,Oct,24 02:09 other posts of phart 
amazing how hard work pays off isn't it?
And the liberals would love to tax this man to death for being successful.
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By dgraff at 02,Oct,24 03:49 other posts of dgraff 
Anyone notice Tim waltz was wearing the same pearl earring in his right ear that cumala Harris wore in her debate
Obama has them both on a short leash
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Oct,24 14:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I get that you don't want to know this, but most Democrats can just talk for themselves.
I know it's rare for Republicans to speak coherently, but it's just a prerequisite for Democrats. The Democratic House Representatives crush your boys and girls every single day in debates. Democratic governors go on right-wing media and crush their hosts every single time. They do it better than Obama ever did.

It's nice that you hold up Obama as this brilliant man who provides everyone with kick-ass arguments, but he doesn't have the time to whisper his wisdom into the ears of other Democrats. They are all big boys and girls, who have the knowledge, intelligence and speaking skills, to think of a good argument all by themselves. Also, their opposition just makes them look better, because most of them are dumb as dirt. That's why they chose to be Republican politicians; it's just much easier. Have you ever seen John Kennedy? When he flipped from Democrat to Republican, his IQ dropped 30 points, but it kept dropping and dropping. It's a miracle that he gets to the senate floor nicely dressed.
He must have some people helping him, because he's too dumb to put on his pants.

I think Trump is too dumb to put on his pants too. That's why he's always wearing the same suit and tie. He just keeps wearing it, until Melania helps him out of it and into another one, the next day. Since Melania can't stand to be around Donny anymore,
he's just wearing the same suit. That explains the horrible smell around Trump too.
By dgraff at 02,Oct,24 15:07 other posts of dgraff 
Said you the American 🇺🇸 hater
Actually I thought the debate went well last night it was very informative and they talked about the problems in America instead of throwing shit at each other very professional maybe we should ditch the laughing hyena and trump and just go with the ones running for vice president
By Cody8789 at 02,Oct,24 15:21 other posts of Cody8789 
Actually Vance is a better debtor then waltz, I think it was 50/50, Vance did not answer several questions that was asked, just talked around it. Vance is a smarter person, waltz was very nervous first half and was knowledgeable on only about half of what was asked. Waltz could have done better, Vance did ok.
The vice pres, does not make the decisions on how the government is run, the pres. Makes the decisions. So stop blaming Harris, biden makes the decisions, just like trump made all decisions not pence.
By dgraff at 02,Oct,24 15:51 other posts of dgraff 
And actually the president does not have the say in any matter they can only do what congress allows them to do every thing is voted on i just am a democrat downer because it winds candy up
By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Oct,24 14:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's how the founders intended it, but that's no longer a reality. Reagan and Bush increased the power of the president far beyond what the founders intended.
Then Trump had his supreme court make the president virtually immune to the law.

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By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Oct,24 14:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I agree; the job of the VP is to support the president. The only exception is when
the president is committing treason against the American people. The VP swears
to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC;...
By phart at 06,Oct,24 01:28 other posts of phart 
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says nothing about treason.
Just basically a tick on the American peoples ass's from what I can read.Unless the prez kicks over, they don't do much



By Cody8789 at 02,Oct,24 15:26 other posts of Cody8789 
I agree with dumping trump and Harris
By phart at 02,Oct,24 16:37 other posts of phart 
we already have 1 person running for prez that didn't get a single vote in the primary. we don't need another. The dems got cheated because they selected biden then he bails.
By Cody8789 at 02,Oct,24 17:02 other posts of Cody8789 
As a loyal VP, she didn't stand against her boss, Joe Biden.

When he decided, or was persuaded to quit the race (not the Presidency) then she announced that she would stand instead.

Given the timing, there was no opportunity to rerun the primaries, but the party rules had foreseen this situation and others would have been allowed to come forward at that point.

In the event, no-one did, probably because there was an instant outpouring of support for Kamala Harris.

The final step, still before the Convention was for the 4000 or so delegates to vote electronically, and more than enough of them did vote for her.

So that's what you do when your only remaining candidate drops out.

I wonder what outpouring of support there would be for J.D. Vance if Donald Trump decided to quit. We'll never know because staying out of jail is his overriding consideration
By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 13:22 other posts of dgraff 
That and hopefully his revenge upon the Democratic Party just like they did to him




By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Oct,24 14:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not the one who supports a wannabe dictator, who installed his cronies in the Supreme Court, giving the president a level of power that the founders never intended, and who wants to use that power to destroy The Constitution and democracy.
America is founded on liberal principles. You are the one hating America.
I love those liberal principles that America is based on.

I saw parts of the debate, and at least there wasn't a complete lunatic on your side
this time, just a liar who doesn't like to be called out when he's lying. Just because
JD Vance sounded respectful, doesn't mean he was respectful. Lying is disrespectful.

Kamala has an annoying voice and laugh, I agree. Trump is more annoying, because he is completely self-centered. Don't you find it annoying, when people are only talking about themselves in a conversation? That's Trump.

I would love you to dump Trump and Harris. Between them the race is still too close,
no matter how ridiculous that is. However, between Vance and Walz is a 11% gap
in favor of Walz. That would be a complete blow-out.
By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 15:29 other posts of dgraff 
What do you mean i support a dictator I never once said I support cumala Harris and not because she is a democrat but because I live with two women in the house and I’ve interacted with candy and lixsipsucket and I know how women think and the stupid thing they say any man that is around a woman 24/7 would have to be a complete idiot to vote for one I’m no fool I was smart enough to run several businesses for 40 years you know what made me sell out and bail the thought of the democrats getting in for another 4 years I survived the 8 years of Obama barely but this time it’s a little worse
By #610414 at 03,Oct,24 15:52 other posts of #610414 
160+ page indictment with undeniable proofs and witnesses and you are still hung up on Liz and me and women in general. What does that say about you as a man or a human being. I’ve met many men that ran successful businesses and, for the most part, they were self serving, misogynistic, idiots except in running their business. Good luck to you Daniel.
By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 20:18 other posts of dgraff 
Her name was Allison Gordon not Liz I even know were she lived if you would like to know that maybe i will send her a Christmas card this year I’m sure she would be surprised
By #610414 at 03,Oct,24 21:56 other posts of #610414 
“Liz” was a typo. I meant Lix. I don’t know what her name is but I’ve read her last name is Doyalson or something like it. You can do whatever you want.



By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Oct,24 15:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
A flip like that, I only expect from tecsan.
What would make Kamala Harris a dictator?
The fact that she's a woman is irrelevant.
By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 20:23 other posts of dgraff 
Because they tell you how to dress and what to eat and how to drive hell they even tell you how to fuck to me that’s a dictator
You must really be gullible to trust women the way you do i watch every move they make
By #610414 at 03,Oct,24 22:04 other posts of #610414 
I feel sorry for your girlfriend. If women tell you how to dress, what to eat, and how to drive, then you are a slob with a poor knowledge of foods, and a bad driver.
By Cody8789 at 03,Oct,24 22:25 other posts of Cody8789 
Some women like that

By Cody8789 at 03,Oct,24 22:28 other posts of Cody8789 
Some women like that, I had a girlfriend that always walked behind me, I used to get mad and tell her to walk besides me, I tried to get her to feel equal to me because I wanted a girl that can feel positive about herself

By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 22:52 other posts of dgraff 
She’s 57 and I’m the best man she has ever been with
Her first husband was a drunken crack head whom she had 2 children with after divorcing him she bounced around between homeless shelters with 2children the next guy she was with beat her and her children and raped her daughter he was a thief and burglarized my garage i swore I would some day get even he’s now in state prison for selling stolen guns and drugs to an undercover agent and when he does that sentence he starts his sentence for **** of the daughter so my revenge is stealing his girlfriend
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By Cody8789 at 03,Oct,24 23:07 other posts of Cody8789 
Good for her that she found you and good for you that you have someone in your life right now.
By dgraff at 04,Oct,24 01:23 other posts of dgraff 
Thank you Cody at my age I didn’t think I should be rattling around in this big house by myself anymore


By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Oct,24 10:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Seeing how you describe your girlfriend's ex, it's not that difficult
to be the best man she has ever been with.

Just a joke, you're a nice guy (for an incredibly conservative man).
By dgraff at 04,Oct,24 10:35 other posts of dgraff 
Thank you
By #610414 at 04,Oct,24 20:04 other posts of #610414 
Ananas is right. The bar is so low a monkey on a stick would have shined. What did you do with the stick?
By dgraff at 04,Oct,24 20:38 other posts of dgraff 
Say what you want but I have not and never will raise a hand against her and she knows it
By #610414 at 05,Oct,24 16:35 other posts of #610414 
All kidding aside, I'm glad to see you are on this woman's side and providing support and protection.
By dgraff at 05,Oct,24 20:16 other posts of dgraff 
I thank you for those kind words Marcy and her daughter feel safe around me Kayla has some trust issues because of what happened to her








By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Oct,24 09:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Nonsense, Democrats don't tell you how to dress and what to eat and how to drive, that's just dumb propaganda from Republicans.

"Liberal" means exactly that you allow people to dress, eat and drive however they want. It's conservatives who have a problem with other people dressing, eating and driving however they want. Liberals just allow people extra choices to dress, eat and drive however they want. Conservatives don't like those extra choices.
You think it's imposed on you, but it isn't.

It's republicans who are restricting personal freedoms, not Democrats.
By Cody8789 at 04,Oct,24 17:26 other posts of Cody8789 
They don’t tell me how to dress, all they want me to do is undress
By dgraff at 04,Oct,24 20:35 other posts of dgraff 
Now that’s what I’m talking about take it off Cody

By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Oct,24 09:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Have fun!











By phart at 03,Oct,24 12:33 other posts of phart 
You know I think it is pathetic that the folks that work at the docks are going on strike but their timing could not be worse. Major interstates closed, and they go on strike, goods won't move from either direction. what will this do? raise prices and slow down commerce. I say fire the ungrateful bastards and hire some mexicans
By dgraff at 03,Oct,24 13:26 other posts of dgraff 
They have been trying to warn us of a food shortage for a year now i get emails about it all the time this is what they are talking about i guess how they know i don’t know i get the emails from the conservative beakon

By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Oct,24 14:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They're not being paid what the are worth. The only thing I don't agree with is that they are striking against automation. They are right that automation is threatening their jobs, but there are ways to prevent that and make automation not just benefit the owner class, but also the working class.

No one should be grateful for a job. That's being a cuck to the owner class.
By phart at 03,Oct,24 19:26 other posts of phart 
Well. I hope automation puts all of them out of work.they could be jobless and hungry. unskilled labor is not worth that much. it does not require college to run a crane or forklift or yard truck.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Oct,24 09:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Nice, you prefer people to be jobless and hungry, instead of being appreciated for the job they are doing. Strikes can be prevented by a company, by just negotiating fairly. These people haven't had a raise in years, while inflation has been diminishing their spending power, even far before Covid.

I don't know about the US, but in the Port of Rotterdam the education requirement starts at Community College level. It's possible that we have a higher education requirement, because automation is at a higher level.

The job market is tight. Automation is not targeting to put people out of their jobs, but to increase efficiency. The same number of people can be more productive through automation. It also reduces their risk and strain on their bodies. If automation does reduce the number of jobs, it's the worst jobs that get eliminated first. It frees those people for better jobs.
By phart at 04,Oct,24 21:07 other posts of phart 
It seems Gov Desantis is part of the reason they paused the strike.
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Turns out keeping the economy going is more important to some people than others.
A strike during this disaster and with Christmas coming up, is poor timing.
Damn those dock workers and their 62% pay increase and lack of concern for the majority of Americans that can't just sit down in a chair and demand more money or shut the country down.
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Oct,24 09:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"A strike during this disaster and with Christmas coming up, is poor timing."
Of course not, it's perfect timing, if you want your strike to incentivize leadership
to negotiate towards your demands.

When people have jobs that don't impact anyone, you say they don't deserve
a good wage, when people have important jobs that impact everyone, you say
they aren't allowed to strike for a good wage. In both cases it's serve the owner class and fuck the working class. They brainwashed you, because you are programmed
to never make a logical argument for working class people making a good wage.
By phart at 05,Oct,24 20:07 other posts of phart 
Strikes should have been outlawed decades ago. Once Osha came along to make sure work areas and jobs were reasonably safe, striking should have ended.
you don't make the majority of the people suffer for a fews demands unless you really don't care about them and that is what strikes do. That shows the public that the pilots or dock workers or auto workers do not appreciate their jobs or care about their neighbors and the negative affects a strike has on them. If I owned a small company, and was waiting on a shipment of bearing for machines I was building and the bastards wouldn't unload the container so I could keep my plant going and my people working so they could earn a salary, i sure as hell would not give a damn about the dock workers.








By phart at 04,Oct,24 21:14 other posts of phart 
Why won't the sorry ass fema let the trucks in to set up mobile internet? Ham radio operators are about the only link for alot of folks right now, internet would help a bunch.
More hatred for Elom Musk by the liberal democrats in charge I guess.
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Elon has already shown that private company's can do as well as if not better with the space program than nasa, exposing the waste there, I hope Elon pushes this and exposes waste in Fema, which I know first hand takes place.


By phart at 03,Oct,24 21:07 other posts of phart 
Ok you doubting thomas's here is proof the government has been wasting to much money on illegal immigrants, and now can not take care of AMERICANS in need. this is fucked up as a foot ball bat.
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On a Brighter note, our former and hopefully next President, has started a fund and has raised 3 million dollars so far to help in relief efforts.

Note at this time there is no evidence that harris,biden,clinton or any of the rest have done a damn thing but maybe visit the sites on OUR dime.


By bella! at 18,Sep,24 05:41 other posts of bella! 
This is food for thought.....

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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 09:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"Is this someone you want leading the world?"

Yep, that's an important question for November. It's THE question.

Do you want to argue with me about the answer?
By dgraff at 20,Sep,24 09:31 other posts of dgraff 
I must say cumala Harris has the whitest teeth Willy brown ever came across
But yeah I agree she is an empty suit
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 10:12 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure you agree. You have no logical reason to, but you're biassed.
It's probably because she's a woman. She's only fuck-meat to you.

She's just crushed Trump in a debate, by talking about what she wants to do
for the American people, while Trump was lying about Haitians eating pets,
which was a false flag from a Nazi group called Blood Tribe.

Sure, a guy who parrots conspiracy theories from Nazi's, that's the guy
you want leading the world. It really shows his mental acuity.

If he talked about the problem of so many LEGAL immigrants having to make a life
in such a small place, sure maybe then. But he was just spreading hate-speech.
By dgraff at 20,Sep,24 10:30 other posts of dgraff 
And why should I believe anything Kamala Harris says because women don’t lie hell the whole Democratic Party is a lie Joe Biden and Kamala Harris have not delivered on any of their campaign promises they hurt the very people they promised to help I’ve caught women in some sneaky lies in the past why should I believe her now
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 11:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You can believe Trump; he shows and says he will be a Nazi and I believe him.
I don't believe anything else he's saying, because he's not clear about it.
He's only clear about promising to be a Nazi. Well, and about being stupid.

You SHOULDN'T believe anything Kamala Harris says.
You fact check what both parties said in that debate.
Trump lied dozens of times, it's hard to even keep score,
and Harris made one or two claims that were not completely fair.
Your side has accused her of lying, but you haven't shown it.

It's always funny, when your side is angry about Democrats not helping people,
but when they actually do, it's socialism.
It's "Heads I win, tails you lose". Don't you see that?

Tell me; what do you want Democrats to do, to help normal people,
and is not socialism? Be strict at the border? They tried, Trump blocked it.
What else? And what did Trump say he would do about it?
By dgraff at 20,Sep,24 12:16 other posts of dgraff 
Trump is a man so his lies are forgiven
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 14:28 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And you probably don't care he's a Nazi either.

Maybe look into history a bit, it wasn't much fun for the Nazi citizens either.
Maybe they didn't have it as rough as their victims, but many died like flies.
Why repeat a part of history that was nothing but a waste of lives?

Maybe that's the worst case scenario, but find me the best case of a dictator
taking over a country. When was that ever fun for the citizens?
By bella! at 20,Sep,24 14:40 other posts of bella! 
Do you have proof that Donald Trump is actually a Nazi or is that something you fabricated?
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 14:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He is constantly using Nazi rhetoric and parroting Nazi disinformation.
You cannot show people to be a Nazi with a blood test, it's behavior.
When he says ..... are poisoning the blood of Americans, that's Nazi speech.
He's talking about deporting LEGAL immigrants, not just the ILlegals.
By phart at 20,Sep,24 14:57 other posts of phart 
Just because 2 different political systems can share the same phrases and ideas does not make the people that use them nazi's.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 15:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Consider American skinheads with swastika tattoos and waving Nazi flags...
are those Nazis by your definition?

When they have no tattoos, but say the same things, are they Nazis then?

Nick Fuentes is a literal Nazi, every Nazi loves him, he loves Nazis.
He was angry at Trump for a while, for not saying the things he wants to hear,
now he's very happy with Trump for saying what he wants to hear again.

What else than the speech and ideas make people Nazis?
Actions? Hitler was a Nazi before he ever had one Jew killed,
but it all started with his speech and his ideas.
We cannot see Trump's ideas, but we can hear his words.
And they are too similar to not call him at least a fascist.
Since he recently started parroting Nazi propaganda, I upgraded him.
By phart at 20,Sep,24 15:22 other posts of phart 
The National Socialist German Workers’ Party later changed to,Nationalist Socialist German Workers’ (abbreviated to Nazi) Party.
Since the word socialist is also a part of your political mindset, are YOU a nazi? Of course not.


When Hitler first began speaking he spoke against Marxism.
So does that mean that everyone that is against Marxism is a nazi?

" Most problems could be solved, he explained, if communists and Jews were driven from the nation. "
Since most all of us denounce communism, are we all suddenly Nazi's??
Think about it Ananas, you aren't that dumb.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 15:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That was fake socialism. There was nothing socialist about the Nazis.
Hitler spoke against Marxism, because he was a capitalist.
He privatized a lot of the social structure of Germany.
That didn't make him a Nazi, it just made him NOT a socialist.
He believed in PRIVATE capital, so he didn't like communism either.

The most important characteristic of the Nazis was white nationalism,
not just the idea that white people are better, but also that the country
needs to be 'purified'. It's that ideology that turned into the Holocaust and why you don't like anyone on your side associated with it, not because they were against communism. Tell me you understand that. You aren't that dumb.

I'm not a Nazi, because I'm not a white nationalist, who wants to purify
his country. Tell me that Trump doesn't have that ideology! Lie for me!






By dgraff at 20,Sep,24 14:41 other posts of dgraff 
You should look a little closer to history and pay close attention to my last name my ancestors designed war machines for Hitler all the Graffs in Germany are very wealthy and live in mansions so I’m told by my German friends on site
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 14:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, I don't think you care much about Trump being a Nazi.
By dgraff at 20,Sep,24 15:18 other posts of dgraff 
Hey if you and cumala want to eat cat with the Haitians go right ahead but I’m sticking with trump and eating steak 🥩
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 15:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I am under no illusion that I can ever rehabilitate you,
or phart or tecsan or several others.
You're just my training for me advancing my socialist agenda.

Your country is probably a lost cause. The best possible is some social progressivism combined with weak neo-liberalism, but my country is already getting tired of the right-wing fake populists, who break all their promises.
They are ripe for my Socialist Party. Power To The people!
By phart at 24,Sep,24 17:39 other posts of phart 
Sad, that you give up so easily. May go back to the fact you don't have much religion-faith.
IF you REALLY believed in your cause, you would never give up trying to convert people to your ideas.

I know there is a better way than what we have been coping with the past 3.5 years. I had a taste of it 4 years prior.
A Shepard doesn't chase the sheep that are within the fold, he only chases after those that have strayed.
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Sep,24 18:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you see me giving up? I gave up on YOU, not on trying.

People who believe that feudalism is better than social democracy,
while they themselves suffer the effects from the kleptocracy that is
quickly turning into feudalism, are too far gone.

Don't worry, I'm here to debate you. It might not help you,
but there are others who might read it.
By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:14 other posts of phart 
and i thought I was your friend. you gave up on me,
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Sep,24 08:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I cannot help you, if you are unwilling to help yourself.
Socialism isn't charity, it maximizes the potential of people
and provides a good bottom standard of living for everyone
who is not capable of contributing to society.
Unlike capitalism, where rich people tell you what to do,
socialism requires people to think and participate.

What are we to do with people who just want to give power over their lives away to some family line of elitists?
By phart at 26,Sep,24 00:58 other posts of phart 
Ok, 1 detail that your response brings to mind that would help alot to begin to understand your mindset.
Let me quote so I can do this easier.
"a good bottom standard of living for everyone
who is not capable of contributing to society."
Ok so that seems as if you are referencing the handicapped or mentally challenged correct? Ok, with that understood,
WHAT about those that are unwilling to contribute, or deliberately try to compromise the system?
How does your system handle those? They do not deserve anything in the opinion of most people.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,24 14:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The good bottom standard of living is for EVERYONE, even the ones unwilling to contribute. Who are you referring to with deliberately trying
to compromise the system?

If you think criminals are doing that, you are wrong. They always justify their actions with a bad childhood, a bad neighborhood, less chances than others, the idea that the world is a bad place, people are bad so they deserve it, or just "This is capitalism, I take what I can get!".
If we make the world better, we reduce the validity of those justifications. Additionally, it would just be easier to be a decent person.

There will always be some people who are just born morally defective.
I think those people are mentally ill. I would provide them with the same good bottom standard of living and mental healthcare. At some point, some will turn around. If they don't, society is better off with those people causing minimal damage. They would do more damage in a system where they need to take care of themselves. Where do you think crime comes from? Why do you want people to steal to survive?

"They do not deserve anything in the opinion of most people."
You say that, but that's just an assumption. If you take the emotions out of it and just consider what's best for society, I think most people will understand that it's not about what some people deserve, but what society deserves.

You are targeting life for everyone to the conviction that some people are just bad. That makes good people suffer for the actions of bad people.
I think that is not good strategy; good people are already suffering too much from the actions of bad people. I want to minimize that.
By phart at 26,Sep,24 18:20 other posts of phart 
I just can't absorb giving a good life to those that do nothing for it.
Watching your neighbor get the same life you get after a 40 hour work week, what incentive is there to continue to work if you can get the same basics handed to you while resting on your ass?
Some people are lazy,and honestly have no goals other than to breath and eat and fart. why do they deserve anything?
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,24 20:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"Watching your neighbor get the same life you get after a 40 hour work week"
Of course not, people won't work for free. Every hour you work will be added on top of your bottom standard of living.

Humanity has developed to an incredible level of abundance,
we just allow it to be divided incredibly unequally.

You do absorb giving a good life to those that do nothing for it.
What do you think the children of wealthy people do? NOTHING!
They show up to some boardroom every other week and tell the managers to work those lazy workers a bit harder for their billions.
By phart at 27,Sep,24 02:04 other posts of phart 
that is what parents do, they pass their knowledge and wealth to their offspring. It is theirs to do that with.
just because you or I were not born into a wealthy family is no reason to resent it.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Sep,24 09:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I disagree with that system. That's NEPOTISM or Aristocracy.
I don't want to serve a king. As an American, you shouldn't either.

Capitalism is represented as a Meritocracy, but that's fake.
People's success is more and more defined by who their parents are,
not by their intelligence, skills and knowledge. That's harmful.

I have no problem with people being more successful than me,
when they are more intelligent, skilled and knowledgeable than I am,
I have a problem with being controlled by STUPID people.
By phart at 27,Sep,24 11:52 other posts of phart 
so who should a wealthy parent leave their estate to? You?
you will also have to define stupid. Because everyone seems to think it means something different. some think it means that a person doesn't know anything. Some think if they don't agree with them they are stupid.
If I worked all my life and had a good home and financial stability, I would want to leave for my off spring.not some government or person that does not even know me. again, you are taking away incentive to do better than basic needs if you think people should just give up what they work for.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Sep,24 15:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
To begin with, inheritance tax needs to be higher.
Second, the ownership of a business needs to be taxed higher than the ownership of a house. Children at least often lived in the house of their parents, but they did absolutely nothing for a business, to get the business of their parents passed onto them. There are way too many methods to inherit a business without paying any taxes.

Then of course, as a socialist, I don't like a system where private capital rules the world. This world and the system we use, to maintain civilization, should belong to everyone, or at least get distributed more evenly.

I'm not the one taking away the incentive to do better, you are.
When people who have not done anything to deserve the capital that controls the rest of the people, just because they won the birth lottery, what incentive do those children of wealthy parents have? They got everything for nothing, and now they control other people. That will guarantee that they will not use their control correctly.
And how about everyone else, who is being forced to work for a child who never worked, for their control over them, themselves?
Is that an incentive to do well for yourself? Why? The example is that people get power for doing nothing; bad example.

Why do you think capitalism invented managers? Because at least they have some intelligence and skills, to represent the owners,
so the workers don't see how stupid the owners are.

Civilization should stop giving ownership and control away to family lines. We can have public ownership, public capital and public investments, which we control democratically, by electing actual smart people to represent us. That's an incentive to do better, because people would have responsibility, an actual chance to excel, and if they have real intelligence and skill, they could be voted in to represent the people. Of course every achievement
will come with appropriate rewards. Just not 1000x more to live in absolute luxury, and never have an incentive again to be good/better.

Stupid, unintelligent, unwise, irrational, having no knowledge and no experience, growing up with the idea of being superior, while actually being inferior in all the things I mentioned before. This is what many children of wealthy people are. Even if one of their parents was in fact a genius, that's not necessarily hereditary. And if it was, it's often only one sided good genes, because successful men don't often end up having children with successful women. Often they go for the young beauty with big tits and no brainpower to speak of. Their dumber son getting succession, is probably not picking a smarter woman. A few births further down the hereditary line, and the genius of the man who once created the empires is completely bred out.

Trump's father was probably pretty smart, D.J. Trump is obviously not, although you deny it. But goddamn have you seen his sons? Completely useless human waste, which will be heir to the empire
of their grandfather, if their father doesn't fuck it up completely.

Elon Musk had some good ideas that made him the wealthiest man in the world. He's smarter than average, but it was family wealth and confidence that made him successful. He's definitely not a genius. But, how about his hundred children? Did they get his genes? Maybe he's breeding so many of them, so he has some choice in picking the best one, to continue his legacy. At least that's some idea of responsibility. If he could also teach them morality,
it would be acceptable. Unfortunately, most wealthy people leave their legacy to their affluenza suffering moronic children.

Listen to this, it's mostly a-political:
"Harvard's Secret Curriculum for Dumb Rich Kids"
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By phart at 27,Sep,24 17:56 other posts of phart 
so you literally want to steal family wealth, who would take it? what would authorize them to take it? What prevent a wealthy man from distributing it among several before death to keep your hands out of it? No wonder people hate governments, socialist 1's for sure, they literally want to take what is not theirs! Inheritance tax is to high already. you are forgetting that death, is usually after medical bills and suffering, all of which take a toll on a family, then you want to clean their clocks after the loved 1 is gone? Who are you or your government to decide they didn't love their family member who was wealthy?
You don't have to be "smart" you have to hire people that are.
There is a interview of Musk on youtube where he explains just that. He doesn't know everything, but he hires smart people. and apparently pays them well enough they don't waste their income on union dues.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Sep,24 20:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Inheritance taxes aren't stealing! It's income tax on people
who have not worked for it; the children of wealthy people.
There should be lower inheritance taxes for the middle class
and higher inheritance taxes for the wealthy.
Some people inherit nothing from their parents or just debt.
How fair is that? You cannot pick your parents. It just luck or not.

I don't want them to have that wealth in the first place.
We don't need wealthy people to invest in civilization.

So you do believe it, if some wealthy asshole tells you?
Can you not understand that without their acknowledgement?
When you are already wealthy, it is not hard to become even more wealthy, because the whole system is created exactly for them to do that. They bribed your politicians for it and they created their own media to indoctrinate the people into thinking the wealthy are entitled to what they get, because they are geniuses. You did not think of this yourself, they told you or cunningly put the idea in your mind, several times per day,
for decades.

Elon Musk is a union buster. He's nothing special as an employer.
By phart at 27,Sep,24 20:53 other posts of phart 
Income tax was already paid on the money that was earned and saved by the parent. Sales tax and broker fees already paid on stocks and etc. the fees and taxes are already collected. That is double taxing the same money.

Poor people can't invest in civilization, only bring it down further. what would they invest if they could?

As a side note, I think you are forgetting something.
TO inherit something from a family member, means that you have LOST that family member to the grave. that is 1 hell of a tax. For example, you would inherit your wifes portion of the estate if she passed. That would be 1 hell of a tax on your emotionally would it not? IN the court of law here in the US if you hit someone in a car and cause injury, they are awarded a settlement in court, Money ,that in a legal sense makes the victim whole again. The gov has always stepped back a bit when it comes to hammering on inheritance tax, life insurance and accident settlements because it is the only legal way to make the survivors whole again .And trust me, a politician that starts talking about raising inheritance tax, will be frowned on as it is disrespectful of the deads wishes.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Sep,24 21:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's the argument they always use, it's bullshit.
Inheritance tax is not paid by the one who earned the money,
those people are DEAD. It's paid by the one who gets it.
The wealthy have taught people to frown on inheritance tax,
while they probably never pay a cent of inheritance tax.
Some people are stupid enough to say: "I'm happy my parents were dirt poor, or I had to pay inheritance tax!". Cuckolds!

When people pay for food, gas and furniture, they pay taxes,
while they already paid taxes on the income they pay it with.
Why is that more fair than inheritance taxes?

I'm not saying poor people can invest, I'm saying everyone combined as the public can invest in civilization.
Just set up a democratically controlled bank, managed by representatives, and invest in big projects from that bank. Then the bank owns it and takes the returns from it. Then that bank grows public capital, and the elected representatives put it to service of the people, by investing in what is important for people. Instead of some wealthy fail-son deciding what to do with the money, the voters decide what to do with the money.























By #610414 at 24,Sep,24 20:03 other posts of #610414 
Right, Dgraff, employment is at an all time high. The stock market is soaring, gas prices are down, interest rates are lowered, inflation is at a very managebly rate.
Biden/Harris really f...ked us up.
By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:03 other posts of phart 
its a bubble, and you know what happens to bubbles.
Not to mention the fact that democrats are creating this false utopia hoping voters memory's are shorter than their dicks.
By #610414 at 25,Sep,24 17:41 other posts of #610414 
Sure it's a bubble. It's just like the Clown's bubble.
By phart at 26,Sep,24 01:09 other posts of phart 
His bubble was not full of hot air,it was actually a growing economy. then the virus hit. I just wonder how bad things would have gotten had the virus waited until biden was in office? But the chinese released it during TRUMP to bring him down. didn't work
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 13:47 other posts of #610414 
Not so. His economy pre pandemic sucked and it's not me saying it. look it up.
By phart at 26,Sep,24 18:16 other posts of phart 
My God,were you under a rock? Unemployment amoung all races lowest ever, companys hiring,expanding,things were going well. you really need to look back at the charts
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 19:48 other posts of #610414 
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Long before the COVID-19 pandemic the Trump administration was squandering the pockets of strength in the American economy it had inherited.
Broad-based prosperity requires strength on the supply, demand, and distributive sides of the economy, and Trump administration policies were either weak or outright damaging on these fronts.
Demand: Most of the Trump tax cuts went to already-rich corporations and households, who tend to save rather than spend most of any extra dollar they’re given.
Supply: Business investment plummeted under the Trump administration, despite their lavishing tax cuts on corporate business.
Distribution: The Trump administration undercut labor standards and rules that can buttress workers’ bargaining power.
You don’t have to be an economist to know how the U.S. economy is doing today: It’s an utter shambles, with tens of millions of workers unable to find the work they need to get by, and with tens of millions of families facing extreme hardship and anxiety. These terrible conditions are mostly the result of the failure to manage and contain the COVID-19 outbreak, and the failure to appropriately respond in the economic policymaking realm.

President Trump, however, clearly wants voters to see the COVID-19 outbreak and fallout as nobody’s fault, and further wants to be graded on how the economy was doing pre-COVID-19. This is obviously absurd; the administration didn’t cause COVID-19, but it is responsible for the botched response to it.
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So, Phart, like all the other MAGA members here including you, why is it when you are quoted FACTS, you ignore and don't respond?



By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,24 17:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sometimes I'm rooting for Trump to win, so you'll experience the absolute drama that will unfold, and I can say "I told you so!". Unfortunately, you will never acknowledge that drama, and will keep telling me how good you're doing,
up to the day you die of starvation, or in a riot of people fighting over food.
Also, the hundred million of Americans who hate Trump don't deserve it.




By dgraff at 24,Sep,24 21:15 other posts of dgraff 
You keep saying gas prices are down but in reality they are still 2 dollars a gallon higher than they were 5 years ago and the only reason they came down a little is because it’s an election year every thing is still way higher than 5 years ago
By #610414 at 25,Sep,24 17:55 other posts of #610414 
I'm paying $2.82 at BJ'S. $3.10 normal.

By Cody8789 at 25,Sep,24 17:56 other posts of Cody8789 
Food prices are at an all time high, I’ve never seen food so expensive
By dgraff at 25,Sep,24 21:11 other posts of dgraff 
Oh definitely chicken is now the price steak 🥩 was 4 years ago but ding bat candy basically told me some time ago to just pay it and quit bitching that is how woke she is
By Cody8789 at 25,Sep,24 21:13 other posts of Cody8789 
I don’t eat steak anymore because I refuse to pay those prices. I eat chicken pork chops hamburgers etc…--------------------------------------- added after 7 minutesI’m paying 3.99 per gallon of gas because I have to use 93 octane in my car which is required so I don’t damage the engine. I was watching tv today, an old Spencer Tracy movie and I noticed the gas price at the pump at 21 cents, now, I don’t understand how a gallon of milk is more expensive then a gallon of milk.
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I seen on the news today that the reason why eggs and chicken are so high is because 38 of the fifty states, the chickens have the bird flu and don’t produce eggs during that event.
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GAO of gas
By dgraff at 26,Sep,24 02:07 other posts of dgraff 
The bird flu happens all most every year and although it may affect the price some I noticed that eggs and chicken went up as soon as Biden was sworn in come to think of it every thing did just like when obama was in office now take notice that if we get trump back in office or any republican for that matter the price of things will come back down I’ve been watching this happen for years
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 13:49 other posts of #610414 
Yeah, Dgraff, Biden said when he took office, "I don't want to be reelected to a second term, so, let's make prices of goods go up. Screw the people.
By dgraff at 26,Sep,24 20:00 other posts of dgraff 
Maybe not in those exact words but something close to that
By #610414 at 28,Sep,24 13:57 other posts of #610414 
Sure, Dgraff, I forget our Democrats talk in tongues. Send them BACK to Venezuela. Feed them cats (or dogs). Let's put all my oposition in jail. They are going to cheat and, if not elected it's because the Jews are to blame. Let's drink some bleach. Getting spanked with a Forbes magazine hurt. Vets that get killed or captured are losers. Don't pass the most comprehensive illegal immigration bill in decades, with bypartisan support, because it will make me LOOK BAD. Let's have a bleach cocktail. RIGHT. 🤣👍
By dgraff at 28,Sep,24 14:24 other posts of dgraff 
If the phrase my body my choice are the words you democrats want to live by then don’t ever try to impose a mandatory Covid vaccine on me again it’s my body my choice
By #610414 at 28,Sep,24 15:25 other posts of #610414 
Show me where it was mandatory. No one forced anyone to have it. However, requirements for certain jobs and/or positions did require that you do. All you had to do is not work there. Personally, it's no skin off of my nose if you feel so afraid. Billions of people have taken it and it seems to work. And, yes, WE WOMEN want to live by those words. Let me enfecise, MY CHOICE. Not yours, not my mother, not my priest, not my husband, but mine.
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Certainly not some scummy millionaire.
By phart at 28,Sep,24 19:24 other posts of phart 
Another life inside your body is NOT yours to end. and military were forced to get the vaccine or be discharged. People were forced to get it or loose jobs they had for years. Democrats being dictators.
By #610414 at 28,Sep,24 20:45 other posts of #610414 
Yes, it is. It's not a life until after 22 weeks. And as far as the rest, it's what I said. Don't want to be vaccinated then leave the military. You have to take other vaccines. I don't give a f..k about your long term unemployment. If you are required, usually for health reasons, then quit. No argument.







By phart at 28,Sep,24 15:54 other posts of phart 
I used to buy chicken tenders and breast all the time at the store and now, only huge packs are in the cooler and they are expensive as hell. I wind up getting pork loins and cooking them in the oven for several meals worth of meat in 1 cooking. Not to mention, i like shrimp, hell, i can buy a couple meals worth of shrimp cheaper now than I can chicken!
Eggs, no problem. Alot of neighbors have chickens and since I keep their machinery running, I have eggs. Gas wholesale at the moment is 1.95 a gallon. so it should be reasonable at the pump. but it aint.
Steak, aint had a good steak in years. cost to damn much.


By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 13:56 other posts of #610414 
Cody, you can't blame the cost of high octane gas on Bidenomics.
By Cody8789 at 27,Sep,24 01:27 other posts of Cody8789 
Three years ago I was paying 2.99 a gal. For gas
By #610414 at 28,Sep,24 14:06 other posts of #610414 
Three years ago Biden was president
By dgraff at 28,Sep,24 14:28 other posts of dgraff 
That’s right and 4 years ago gas was 1.87 per gallon so you can see as soon as Biden took over how much it went up in just that first year
By #610414 at 28,Sep,24 15:03 other posts of #610414 
In 2016 when it was the lowest in years , it was $2.14. Then:
While the U.S.'s dependence on Russian crude oil is relative, Russia was the second-largest crude oil exporter worldwide in 2021. The economic sanctions against Russia contributed to crude oil and petrol price inflation in a market which cannot be protected from price disruptions and was already impacted by the COVID-19 pandemic. This contributed to the increase in regular gasoline prices in the United States throughout 2022, up to the highest retail price on record since 1990.
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In other words, either you are full of BS or your recollection is from 1976.
By dgraff at 28,Sep,24 19:19 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah right in 1976 gas was less than 50 cents a gallon because it was 50 cents a gallon in 1978
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Who cares?









By bella! at 25,Sep,24 22:25 other posts of bella! 
What!? Bidenomics isn't working for you?
By dgraff at 26,Sep,24 02:09 other posts of dgraff 
Bidenomics is not working for anyone period
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 13:52 other posts of #610414 
It's not working as bad as Trumponomics. Just saying. My grandkids grandkids will be paying the interest on the national defecit created by the Clown.




By phart at 26,Sep,24 18:17 other posts of phart 
i filled up at 2.79 the other day, 34 gallon tank, yes I was happy it came down. The media claims it is due to reduced china demand.if you believe everything you read about china you would think they were about to sink into the mud economically. how can they with all our money??
the dems are hoping our memorys are short. I am willing to bet if kamala wins gas will be back to 4 a gallon by the time she takes office. then only up from there






By phart at 20,Sep,24 14:54 other posts of phart 
do you want kamala leading us? This is happening to us under obiden right now.


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Here is Trump looking at it HIMSELF. Now, show me a video of kamala even addressing this issue?? YOU CAN"T
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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 16:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I see no video of Trump looking at it HIMSELF. But that was an important issue.

How is it that China can just buy up important parts in your country? CAPITALISM!
Your country is up for grabs to the highest bidder, doesn't matter if it's China or Saudi Arabia or my country, you shouldn't sell it to foreign entities. Still, Dr. Phil is dumb about a lot of things; just because land around your important facilities is owned by China doesn't mean they can start an invasion or something from that land.
They could however be spying on you from their property. OK, maybe hacking.
You need to start worrying when your country sells the important infrastructure itself
to China, like communication, power, water and waste. But, it's not good.

You are now blaming Democrats, but selling American property to the highest bidder
is very much a Republican thing. They only just realized it might be not so smart.

Here is Kamala Harris criticizing Trump for selling you out to China:
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What do you think Joe Biden's chip act was all about?
Taking back chip manufacturing to the US, to reduce your vulnerability to China!
We talked about this! Sometimes I think I'm talking to a brick wall.

[Of all foreign-owned U.S. land, Canadian investors owned the most at 12.8 million acres. This makes up 31% of all foreign-owned U.S. land. Four other countries held 12.4 million acres combined, or another 31% of foreign-owned land: the Netherlands (12%), Italy (7%), the United Kingdom (6%), and Germany (6%).]
1.4% of our agricultural land is owned by foreign investors, I fucking hate that!
We are suffering the pollution, so it should be owned by Dutch people.
If you want to sell American land to foreign investors, that's your business.
By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:15 other posts of phart 
by the way, the second link shows Trump and dr Phil discussing the map.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Sep,24 08:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I saw the map. I understand the risk. It is a valid point.
I call Dr. Phil dumb, because he thinks he's the only one
who thinks about these things.

Did you think Trump had thought about it ever before?
Why did you say "Here is Trump looking at it HIMSELF"?
You acknowledge that Trump has never thought about it.

Democrats DO think about these things AND ACT!
Republicans just deregulate and give power away to the 'free market'.
That has consequences for the sovereignty and security of your country.
You are afraid of China doing anything harmful to Americans, but meanwhile
Trump is eliminating and slashing funding (for) almost every government entity designed to protect the American people.

What are you afraid of? China poisoning your tap water? It's already poisoned by your own industry! China wiretapping you? Google and Meta already know everything about you. China bringing you another virus? Then don't destroy the organizations of specialists who's job it is to protect you against epidemics!



By #610414 at 24,Sep,24 20:07 other posts of #610414 
We want all that money to come back and be invested in the US. In the '90, Japan was doing the same. Their economy tanked and we sat pretty. Who cares who owns the lot next to your house as long as the owner maintains the property and PAYS HIS TAXES?
By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:05 other posts of phart 
the location of the land the chinese is buying is the problem.
most of it is within digging distance of our military bases. You ever heard of tunnels? Also, research EMF.and EMP
and when the chinc's own it, we will never be able to buy it back
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Sep,24 08:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Is America buying up land in China near their vital infrastructure?
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"In conclusion, while the prospect of buying land in China may seem daunting to American investors due to the country's distinct legal framework and ownership restrictions, there are avenues to navigate this complex market."
Those "ownership restrictions" probably include land near vital infrastructure.

By the way, the Biden government has taken action against Chinese ownership.
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Obviously Trump didn't know anything about this. Because he's stupid.
I'm not saying Biden would know, but he appoints officials who know.
Trump only appoints stupid people. Only their loyalty to him counts for him.
Project 2025 contains a plan to fire all the smart people and put in loyalists.
They will only do what the demented leader tells them to do.

By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 13:57 other posts of #610414 
Haven't you heard about buried microphones? 🤣🤣
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,24 14:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Most people are carrying around a microphone a camera and a GPS 24/7.
Why would they even attempt to bury microphones?
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 16:28 other posts of #610414 
military installations have buried microphones around the perimeter to detect tunneling under the fencing. I'm not sure if microphones is the right name but they do have sensors.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Sep,24 16:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh, are you referring to that. The term is seismometer.
I don't think we have them around our bases. Or they don't say.
Although it's pretty hard to tunnel in mud, with groundwater 3 feet deep.
When we build a subway or a tunnel, the water is the biggest challenge.
By #610414 at 26,Sep,24 17:48 other posts of #610414 
👍
By phart at 28,Sep,24 19:28 other posts of phart 
that is a defense against a technology we are AWARE of. What are we NOT aware of that they could be using? Of course it is made in china so it won't work very long or very well. but may work well enough once to do alot of damage
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Sep,24 13:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I would like to remind you of your own post:

"If you look at the situation now, china is the new russia, we are being told to be afraid of china, hate china and etc, same as we were told about russia years ago.
where did that get us?
no where good."

They are telling you to hate and be afraid, and you follow the order.

We don't have to believe that China is evil, to be careful.
Why do you need to believe that they want to damage you?
Just believe that your country and China have conflicting goals.
But also understand that they are very pragmatic about their goals.
They have no interest in damaging themselves, just to damage you.
In fact, they have been partners to your both benefit for decades.
It's your country not allowing them to become too strong from it,
that they are telling you to hate and fear them now.

Why isn't it Russia anymore? Because Russia is not the big bad communist bear, that is challenging your system, anymore. Their power and influence over the world has been beaten, communism has been beaten. What remains is a mostly isolated country, with big boy pants on (nukes), but with an ideology that doesn't threaten yours. Putin is an authoritarian right-wing conservative alpha-man, exactly the kind of character you want to let rule your country.













By phart at 27,Sep,24 23:57 other posts of phart 
if we divide 125 genders by 3 bathrooms,how much climate change will we have?


By phart at 27,Sep,24 23:51 other posts of phart 
i like this sheriffs thinking.
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By AngelofDeath at 23,Sep,24 16:11 other posts of AngelofDeath 
Need these for sex offenders but harsher and torture 24 hours a day.

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By phart at 23,Sep,24 19:46 other posts of phart 
I really like the Thailand system for drug offenders.
The prison system in russia appears to be ideal. Perhaps we need to contract our prison system to the russians?
Could save a fortune as we would be rid of the revolving door system
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Sep,24 08:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The Road to Rehab: Thailand's laws and community centres help fight stigma for drug users
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"Historically, Thailand has severely punished people who have broken strict drug laws. However, since a change in the law in 2021, the legal system has shifted towards rehabilitation for people who use drugs. Caption: For Mr. Sukkaew, the focus now is on managing the long-term health impacts of prolonged drug use."
By phart at 25,Sep,24 12:08 other posts of phart 
in other words the problem will never go away because people lie to get back out on their own. druggies do that
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Sep,24 12:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
No, in other words; they have smarted up and understand that drug wars don't work.
The best way to reduce the drugs problem is to provide hope and prosperity to people and treat drugs addiction as the health crisis it is.
Learn from countries who reduced the problem instead of continuing with ideas
that don't work.




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By AngelofDeath at 25,Sep,24 00:15 other posts of AngelofDeath 
I’d be happy to drive one.
By phart at 25,Sep,24 03:04 other posts of phart 
Hey, I got the license to drive that vehicle, you do the stickin'!
By AngelofDeath at 26,Sep,24 02:28 other posts of AngelofDeath 
Looks like chomo is on the menu boys!






By Jamie at 25,Sep,24 16:40 other posts of Jamie 
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By phart at 25,Sep,24 16:45 other posts of phart 
can' t deport them? dispatch them with a 30-06
it is WAY PAST time to get a grip on these gangs. Thanks to the democrats our country is under siege by these thugs.I can't help but notice the tinker bell .democrat gov of colorado is denying anything is happening? Gee I wonder why?



By bella! at 25,Sep,24 11:36 other posts of bella! 
"I am Kamala Harris and I approve this message....."

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By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:28 other posts of phart 
Liberal spin on lethal injection.
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again, as I was trying to explain to cat, liberals are more concerned about the criminals rights than the victims.

The victim of a stabbing murder didn't have a sedative given first, or a choice not to become a victim .


By phart at 24,Sep,24 17:35 other posts of phart 
As if we needed more confusion and lies, AI is being used to interfere with our elections by at least 3 different countries.
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So be careful of the "news" you see. it may not be true
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Would you like to see REGULATION to make sure AI doesn't screw with your elections?
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"Republicans support AI Development rooted in Free Speech and Human Flourishing."
Free Speech as in allowing whatever lies AI can create?
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Trump has already reposted AI generated fake news. He can't be trusted.
By phart at 24,Sep,24 21:09 other posts of phart 
No, I don't want regulation. I want people to grow brains and use common sense to decide things .Watching a AI ad and letting it change your mind this late in the election cycle would be like watching Looney toons and then voting. Silly.If people would use their brains, AI would NOT be that much of a problem.

people need to Open their wallets and see if they have any money left after buying groceries and gas. We had money left in our pockets during Trump,but not during biden.
Each individual needs to vote for who put them in the best position economically. Because if you are not economically sound, the rest is irelevant.


By #610414 at 24,Sep,24 19:58 other posts of #610414 
Send the Clown back to Venezuela



By bella! at 23,Sep,24 11:38 other posts of bella! 
Sky News on Kamala Harris.

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By dgraff at 23,Sep,24 12:00 other posts of dgraff 
My god if she is elected we as a country are doomed
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Even liberal SkyNews knows she is a total sham..

No idea how to run anything.
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Except maybe her mouth


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yep,




By bella! at 12,Sep,24 12:12 other posts of bella! 
During the Trump/Harris debate, former President Trump asserted that in Springfield, Ohio, Haitians were abducting and eating the resident's pets.

David Muir fact checked the former president and said it was a false claim.

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Is this a scripted video or are these Springfield residents outta their minds?

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By #610414 at 12,Sep,24 13:42 other posts of #610414 
I’m sure you know my view. What’s yours?
By bella! at 12,Sep,24 16:56 other posts of bella! 
I have no idea what your view is. Here's the police body cam of a woman called the police on her cousin who killed a living cat and was eating it.

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By phart at 12,Sep,24 14:12 other posts of phart 
I know those folks have a entirely different lifestyle that is not compatible with normal Americans.
Cleanliness is not in their vocabulary.
I would not trust them near my animals for sure. They do eat things we don't .

I mean really, how much more evidence do you need to see that they are not a asset to the US?
You can't even travel there safely.
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"Avoid all travel to Haiti due to the threat posed by kidnappings, gang violence and the potential for civil unrest throughout the country."

Trashy yard, normal'
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Why do folks think it is ok to bring this into the US?
By Ananas2xLekker at 12,Sep,24 16:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's very possible that people are eating pets in Haiti out of pure desperation, but that's not a 'different lifestyle'. If they would be eating pets in Springfield, Ohio, then it would be out of pure desperation too. In any case, that story was based on some stupid Facebook post, and was not confirmed by anyone serious or honest. Someone who's running for president should have the mental acuity to recognize bullshit like that.
You are supporting a guy with the mental acuity of a special needs teen on 4chan.


By Cody8789 at 12,Sep,24 23:41 other posts of Cody8789 
I’ve heard of people eating the face off of other people several times in the past couple of years, but never heard that someone or several, people were eating cats and dogs, I think they better stick to eating roadkill, that seems to be the norm in the southeastern states
By bella! at 13,Sep,24 01:49 other posts of bella! 
Cody, this is an actual vest cam video. She killed and is now eating a cat. I don't know whether this was an isolated issue OR if people are eating pets.....

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Watch the other video, you don't have to watch it entirely, in your opinion, is it a candid video or scripted?
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 07:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you believing that if someone kills a cat or finds a dead cat,
they would eat it right there? Don't be ridiculous!
If it was true on that video, the lady was either completely psychotic
or drugged out of her goddamn mind.

There are countries where they eat dogs and cats, but they COOK IT FIRST!
No matter if it's their culture or they are just that desperate, they will still
take it with them, skin it, take the guts out and cook or grill it.

What do you think hillbillies did with roadkill?
Do you think they ate it raw? That would have killed them in days.
No, they cooked or grilled it, until all the bacteria are dead.
I'm sure they had no clue about bacteria, but when brother-cousin Billy-Bob
ate a raw roadkill, he had cramps hours after, explosive diarrhea a bit later,
and died in horrible agony in days. They would learn not to do that pretty quickly.

In WWII, people ate pets too, but they also cooked it first.
By phart at 13,Sep,24 13:33 other posts of phart 
there are folks that are completely psychotic ,therrefore you can expect problems when they run loose in society.
As for the Haitians eating pets, I would need to see more evidence they DON'T, not the words of some liberal media that thinks it is ok for people to not to assimilate when they come to the US.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 20:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I heard the initial cause for the story wasn't even about Springfield and wasn't even about a Haitian. It's just another nonsense internet meme.
The evidence against that nonsense internet meme is that the police says
it's nonsense.
You just want to believe immigrants are bad and crazy, just like everyone else
involved in spreading this nonsense internet meme.

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By dgraff at 14,Sep,24 12:25 other posts of dgraff 
People are broke under the democrats chain of command i myself like cat food its half the price of a can of soup and tastes like tuna yummy
--------------------------------------- added after 9 minutes

The goddam Haitians don’t belong in the United States 🇺🇸 to begin with
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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 09:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Well, they do advertise that cat food very tastefully.
There is always an image of the sweetest cat you've ever seen on it. Yummy!
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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Sep,24 09:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
North Carolina Republican Mark Robinson denies calling himself Black Nazi,
vows to stay in governor's race:
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In 2010, Mark Robinson posted on a porn-site's forum: "Slavery is not bad. Some people need to be slaves. I wish they would bring it (slavery) back. I would certainly buy a few."

They are not telling on which pornography site's forum he posted it.
Maybe he's here. Has anyone seen him? I would love to talk to him.


By phart at 14,Sep,24 23:34 other posts of phart 
When you've spent your entire life priviledged, equality will feel like discrimination.
Thomas Sowell
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Sep,24 16:24 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He stole that from Franklin Leonard; "When you're accustomed to privilege, equality feels like oppression." He added: "(It's not.)" But, he probably stole it too.

In any case, it's about actual privileged people, who hate the idea of equality.
Thomas Sowell is a fake anti-SJW who tried to flip it.



By phart at 16,Sep,24 22:04 other posts of phart 
Now if you were to change the name to obama or biden liberals would be having a fit of rage. but since it's Trump,this has been buried in the media dust bowl.
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Amazingly, the unedited video is on this page. showing a 4 wheeled rover being driven onto the golf course and placing a laser beam on the President .
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Sep,24 07:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This has been buried in the media dust bowl,
because it doesn't fit the narrative of your media.
When Trump would be attacked by a lefty or liberal,
they would be fitting and raging about it 24/7 for ever.
But, Trump is attacked by crazy right-wingers every time,
and they don't want to keep reminding people of that fact.

Trump assassinated an Iranian leader! But, they shouldn't think about it?



By phart at 16,Sep,24 21:52 other posts of phart 
No ears were harmed,go on with your sunday afternoon.

regardless of your political leanings, that is not something you would joke about.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Sep,24 15:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Remember Paul Pelosi? You did joke about it, you did nothing but joke about it.

Fuck Trump! He does nothing but stochastic terrorism, trying to get his political enemies, election officials, women he fucked or raped, judges, prosecutors, court clerks, witnesses, jury members and their families killed by MAGA (lunatics).
By phart at 17,Sep,24 22:11 other posts of phart 
I didn't really "joke" about it. The guy got caught red handed in his underware with another guy and the hammer thing was just a cover. The guy probably thought pelosi would pull strings since he liked his butt but instead he got 30 years for hitting him on the head.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Sep,24 06:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"got caught red handed in his underware"
He was attacked in the middle of the night by a far-right conspiracy theorist.
That's a situation where you are in your underwear.
If Nanci would have been at home, they would both have been tortured to death.

You keep repeating that completely made up smear propaganda.
That far-right conspiracy theorist did not think of attacking Nanci Pelosi by himself,
he got that idea from Trump who keeps demonizing her.
It's why on Jan 6th your lunatic cult-members were also going around the Capitol shouting "Where are you, Nancy? We're looking for you!".
Trump does that, because he wants some lunatic to attack her; stochastic terrorism.
When it achieves the desired result, he hides it with disinformation.

"After arresting David DePape, police discovered multiple zip ties, duct tape,
white rope, a second hammer, and rubber and cloth gloves in his backpack.
According to investigators, DePape had a list of additional potential targets."
His other targets included a women’s and queer studies professor, California
Gov. Gavin Newsom, actor Tom Hanks and President Joe Biden’s son Hunter.





By phart at 10,Sep,24 19:54 other posts of phart 
Just curious how many liberals and democrats will publicly disagree with this. This vid in my eyes has some "ai" about it,can't explain it but even if it is AI generated, still a good question.
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By #610414 at 11,Sep,24 15:21 other posts of #610414 
Putting Melania, Trump and truth together is a laugh, but, there’s some truth to say, “Let’s look at this with wide open eyes.” The attempted assassination of an ex President of the US should not be treated cavalierly.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Sep,24 15:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It wasn't an 'assassination', just like school shootings aren't 'assassinations'.
This was a random act of violence, from a usual type who does that.
If Biden would have been close, it would have been Biden.

Lee Harvey Oswald could be described as an assassin, this lunatic and the lunatic
who shot Reagan can not. I'm not sure about Squeaky Fromme.
By #610414 at 11,Sep,24 16:19 other posts of #610414 
It wasn't a hit for filthy lucre or ideology but, the attempt to k.ll someone is an ettempted assassination.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Sep,24 16:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"Assassination" is the act of taking another's life to make a political or religious point.
I don't think he was doing that, he just wanted to get on the news; be 'famous'.
He didn't have a political or religious point, or he wouldn't have researched BOTH Trump AND Biden, but just the one threatening his political or religious ideas.
By #610414 at 12,Sep,24 13:40 other posts of #610414 
The definition is “to murder (a usually prominent person) by sudden or secret attack often for political reasons.”

1) The Clown is prominent
2) The attack was sudden and secret
3) It was for political reasons. The subject of the ATTEMPTED assassination was
not picked because he was an unsuccessful dog catcher, party affiliation
aside.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 12:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I agree with 1 and 2, but not with 3.

Because it was an attempted murder on a politician, there is a tendency to assume a political motive, which would make it an assassination or terrorism, but there is no evidence to confirm a political motive.

Crooks searched for both the locations of Trump AND Biden on his phone.
He had also searched for images of Mr Wray, Attorney General Merrick B Garland and a British royal family member. The FBI are investigating him, but so far there is no indication that he had any strong political views or any co-conspirators.

It was a targeted attack to maximize the social impact of his deed, not to further
a political ideology. He had the exact same motive as school shooters have.

I'm sorry to tell you, but school shootings don't have the same social impact
it once had anymore. It's now excepted by Republicans as a “fact of life".
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Do you remember the name of the last school shooter? Do you remember
all their names? If you do, you are an exception. That means that some
mass shooters who are seeking fame will now be looking to find other targets.
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How many children should the next mass shooter kill, to be just as 'famous'
as a guy who just nicked the ear of one former president / cult member?

Would Republicans consider it a “fact of life" if they get shot at regularly?
We all know they would not give a fuck if a Democrat gets murdered,
so to maximize their impact, mass shooters know who to target.
Maybe then you would see some common sense gun reform.
By #610414 at 13,Sep,24 14:07 other posts of #610414 
Maximizing the social impact is a political move. There was a spectator that lost his life. No one mentions him. Why? Because the shooter wanted to make a non partisan political statement by shooting a big name politician.
John Lenon’s murder was non-political. Not this.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 20:26 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
A non-partisan political statement? What would that statement be?
It certainly created political turmoil. I'm sure that was the goal.
OK, it's a stretch, but that could be considered political.

John Lennon’s murderer was most likely not politically motivated,
I agree with that, but it certainly also created political turmoil.
There are still conspiracy theories going round that the CIA orchestrated it.
Lennon was of course a huge advocate for world peace, equality, sexual freedom and freedom from religion, which was considered very threatening to powerful conservatives.






By phart at 11,Sep,24 17:19 other posts of phart 
it was a assassination attempt and a murder and 2 attempted murders. Had the little sicko jurk shooter survived, we would have had to feed him for the rest of his miserable life.
ALthough I think it was good he was shot, I am curious if a couple non lethal shots coulda been fired at him,to stop him and secure him for interrogation?

Of course only the shadow knows what the dark fiqure was on the water tower in several videos.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 08:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I have not heard any argument to show Crooks had a political agenda.
That's what would make it an assassination attempt.

There will be stupid conspiracy theories going around for ever,
but only people like you would be able to believe them.
All the evidence shows Crooks was just another 'crazy',
who should have never had access to any gun.




By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Sep,24 15:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, she sounds very motivated.
You know she's very very SAD about it...
That the fuckwit missed, of course.
Maybe then she would have still gotten some inheritance,
before her fuckup husband loses all of her money.
By phart at 11,Sep,24 17:12 other posts of phart 
You can't seem to comprehend the possibility that she loves her husband and would like to know the truth behind the shooting" Donald Trump took a very attractive woman from Czechoslovakia and put her in the White house of the United states of America. Don't you think in her heart that she appreciates being put at the top?

If someone shot your spouse who may have been behind Trump that day, would you not want the facts known what was behind it?
IF you notice the news hasn't spoke much about the shooting lately. THey found the shooter had encrypted email accounts off shore. What does a freeko like that need with off shore email accounts? Iran has made it well known they want Trump dead. so in my eyes, it all looks strange, why was the body cremated so soon?
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 07:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I could very much comprehend the possibility that she loves her husband,
but all the SIGNS show she hates his guts.
Maybe not as much all the time, but in general she does.
Don't you think Trump gives her good reason to?
He humiliates her for the whole world to see.

What you are describing is completely TRANSACTIONAL.
Melania indeed married a rich dude, to get at the top.
She was a mail-order bride. I'm sure she would have liked
to be able to love the guy who she ended up marrying,
but he turned out to be absolute scum.
Trump is not just absolute scum to other people,
Melania wouldn't give a crap about that, she's scum too,
Trump has been scum towards her too, many many times.
That's why she doesn't want to be around him anymore.
She does the minimum that she's required to do, like this,
but she's not even supporting him, in any of his court cases.
If you believe your beloved husband is the victim of lawfare,
like you believe, you would turn up to support him.
No, she knows he deserves it and would love for him to be locked up.
She would still need to wait for her inheritance, but at least he wouldn't be around.

Everyone has encrypted email accounts off shore. Do you know how Google and Microsoft work? I'm sure more information will come out about Crooks, but investigations take time. If there is nothing significant to mention, we won't hear anything.

Thomas Matthew Crooks body was cremated 10 days after. That's normal.
What do you expect to find on his body? You can be sure they did a full chemical analysis of his blood. We would have all heard it if he had used drugs.

Are you kidding that Iran would employ a guy like that, to kill Trump?
How would they go about doing that? What is the son of a Republican gun nut, who turned out to be a gun nut too, vulnerable to? What can they use to manipulate him into attacking Trump? Aren't there millions of more susceptible youths to target?
The problem with your conspiracies is that you need to reject all facts and logic,
in order to believe them.
By phart at 13,Sep,24 13:29 other posts of phart 
Now you see the logic, why would iran go after a normal suspect if they didn't want to get caught?
They may very well have went for the 1 you would least expect.
Nuts are nuts and they found a dumb 1 if that is what happened.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,24 20:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You cannot just radicalize people if their ideology is completely different than yours. How would the Castro communists be able to make you a communist radical?
How could Muslim extremists make you a suicide bomber for Allah?
Read my last sentence again.
By phart at 14,Sep,24 14:46 other posts of phart 
Ananas, we are talking about a mentally ill person here. you or myself would not be easy to convert. We are capable of logical thinking.

Promises of getting a piece of ass may have been enough to motivate him to try to kill a public figure. You do remember they said the last thing he looked up on his phone before he died was porn right?
By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Sep,24 16:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So you accept that he was mentally ill, but you still need him to be
radicalized by people you don't like?
Your side is radicalizing people!
Your side is making people mentally ill!
Sometimes, they end up hurting your own side.

I have not seen any evidence of your side being capable of logical thinking.
You start with a conclusion and then try to find anything to justify it.
That's not logical reasoning, that's apologetics.









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Look at the map with the golf course and the roads bordering it,not a police car,nothing to keep someone from waddling right over and waiting to shoot.
The golf game was not known until sunday morning, yet this guy camped 12 hours?? How did he KNOW Trump would be playing golf when not many folks knew?

Who is trying to get Trump killed here? And don't forget,
the video of Trump being shot by a missle sent out by Iran a few years ago
By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Sep,24 15:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He had a full security attachment, securing the perimeter around him.
Who do you think prevented Trump from getting shot?

Crazy people are trying to get Trump killed here.
Trump is making people crazy. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.



By phart at 15,Sep,24 02:07 other posts of phart 
No one will give you the education you need to over throw them.
Think about that for a moment. Tax money is used by the government to provide "free" education. liberals claim it is the best thing for the children. what better way to make sure you have your citizens under your control than to be the 1 in charge of what they learn? And the 1 with the dollars ,is the logical decision maker of what gets taught.
By #610414 at 16,Sep,24 15:25 other posts of #610414 
You are not making sense, Phart. In the 2022 Census of Governments, the United States Census Bureau enumerated the following numbers of school systems in the United States: 12,546 school district governments. 571 county-dependent school systems.
What control are you talking about? Heck, look at my state, Florida. Look at what DeSantis is doing with the Florida Educational system. Does that look like the Libs are controlling the curriculum? Look at Texas, Oklahoma, Alabama, Georgia and a bunch more. And, like I've said at the beginning, the Federal government is not in the teaching game.



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People are so fucking dumb. if you are to be at work at 6 am? You need to have your sorry ass AT WORK at 6 AM OR at least let them know there is a issue?


By dgraff at 14,Sep,24 12:29 other posts of dgraff 
Gas is now 3.25 a gallon in Pennsylvania
But of course it would be dropping it’s an election year
But it’s an optical illusion it’s still 1.50 higher than it was 4 years ago democrats suck
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U cunts keep winging about fuel prices, come here & pay over twice

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Don't even get me started on the price of Vodka. 41 bux for 750 ml. Picking up a liter from Farmer Joes was like $11 for a liter last I visited there, can you imagine how much of a menace I would be if I lived in the USA



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Nice story. 👍



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Listen to this young lady's opinion regarding VP Kamala Harris.

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By phart at 11,Sep,24 03:35 other posts of phart 
I hope the day comes I can get a chip to put me back where I coulda been had I not got messed up

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By #610414 at 11,Sep,24 15:16 other posts of #610414 
I hope so too, friend.
By phart at 11,Sep,24 17:14 other posts of phart 
half use of my left arm alone is annoying. thankful to have it of course. But like millions all over the world, I had greater potential than what I can now achieve and I want everyone to be able to achieve something they want to.not just sit around and be told by dr's like i was," here is some pain meds, go buy a video game and a good recliner and enjoy your retirement"
. Fuck you dr. FIX ME>
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Is the problem with your arm physical or part of the concussion?
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both
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By bella! at 12,Sep,24 10:44 other posts of bella! 
So did she or didn't she?

Did Kamala Harris wear an earpiece during the debate the other night? Read the article published in the Hindustan Times and determine yourself.

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No doubt she was I put nothing past a democrat
Was she laughing and cackling a lot you know she dose that a lot when she is lying



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no knowledge of this gal other than just reading this page, damn shame people give up so easy on life.
she had enough, didn't lack anything she needed. and could afford "help" and went to get it but apparently the dr's are slow as snails to figure out anything


By phart at 10,Sep,24 20:04 other posts of phart 
Scammers and AI are getting good, jeff dunham explaining what folks are doing with his image.
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By bella! at 04,Sep,24 18:28 other posts of bella! 
BREAKING NEWS

Shooting at Georgia high school. Georgia officials confirmed 4 dead, 9 sent to hospital. Investigators also confirm that suspect is in custody and alive.

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By #610414 at 04,Sep,24 18:45 other posts of #610414 
I’m so sorry. My heart goes out for the victims and their families.
Now, back to reality. It was expected, if not there, then somewhere. Let’s see the next time will be in about two weeks. Repeating in a normal pattern as long as this country continues with this adoration of the gun.
By phart at 05,Sep,24 01:55 other posts of phart 
Fellow was on fbi radar for at least a year because of stuff they said online. Well gee, why not go talk to the asshole BEFORE he harms someone? a ounce of Prevention is worth a pound of cure.
but no, that would not further the antigun agenda to prevent these events from happening. School kids are being used to help achieve gun control. sacrificial lambs
The grocery store shooting in newyork, the school shooting in florida,The Trump shooting, all could have been prevented, but gee, what would people like cat pushing outlawing guns have to work with if they were prevented? Kill a few 1000 over a few years to get guns off the street is the logic of the democrat
By bella! at 05,Sep,24 05:50 other posts of bella! 
The shooter was a 14 year old boy, phart.
By dgraff at 05,Sep,24 11:11 other posts of dgraff 
The parents should be locked up for not teaching the little bastard anything and the little bastard should be held in juvenile hall until he is 18 hopefully he gets his ass kicked a few times that’s something the parents should have done years ago
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By phart at 05,Sep,24 12:20 other posts of phart 
apparently quite capable of adult actions. so quite capable of receiving adult punishment.
Parents should be jailed for not teaching the kid right from wrong.
This is yet another bad case of lousy parents and inept law enforcement.


By #610414 at 05,Sep,24 12:24 other posts of #610414 
Phart are you listening to yourself?
“ School kids are being used to help achieve gun control.”
In what Bizarro universe do you live in? When everyone wants our kids to be safe from gun violence you are suggesting there’s a movement to have school children murde.red to promote gun control?
I just don’t have the words to express my outrage.
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Boy you democrats are just full of conspiracy’s
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I’m glad you guys are having a good time after 4 people including 2 children were murder,ed.
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It happens all the time and has been for years death is a natural part of life i feel sad that it happened but I’m not gonna break down and cry over it that’s a woman thing



By phart at 05,Sep,24 15:20 other posts of phart 
If you can't see what is happening, not much way to help you.

Tell me why, when the shooter in new york who was chatting with a former fbi agent, was allowed to follow thru with his plan he spoke of online?
Tell me why the school shooters family in florida told law enforcement over and over the kid was a problem and they allowed him to follow thru with his violence as they hid behind their cars?

I could go on, but there is no other LOGICAL explanation for these and many other events being ALLOWED to happen unless there is a horrid agenda behind it. and who wants to defund the very thing that would respond to these events? Democrats.
please explain to all of us why these events are allowed to happen.

There are many rabbit holes we could go down about WHY these events happen. BUT I want you to explain WHY They are ALLOWED to happen once law enforcement that folks like you expect us to trust our very lives with, are informed of the issues.
By #610414 at 05,Sep,24 15:42 other posts of #610414 
Being allowed to happen? What do you suggest be done? Lock up the kid on a hunch? Allowed to happen. Yikes!
By phart at 05,Sep,24 16:21 other posts of phart 
So the law knowing there is a issue and doing nothing does not bother you?
Of course I forget you are 1 of those that think the criminal has more rights than the victim. in your mindset the majority does not have a right to safety as it may infringe on the rights of 1 or 2 individuals that might be questioned and preventive action taken .
By bella! at 05,Sep,24 23:03 other posts of bella! 
The father bought his 14 year old son the gun as a Christmas gift.

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By Cody8789 at 06,Sep,24 00:45 other posts of Cody8789 
Then the father is just as responsible for the act of the CHILD
By bella! at 06,Sep,24 00:59 other posts of bella! 
For sure, for sure!

In 2021, Ethan Crumbley's, who at the time was 15, killed 4 persons at a high school in Oxford, MI. He was charged as an adult and given the term of life in prison without parole.

His parents were convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 10 to 15 years in prison.

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By phart at 06,Sep,24 14:45 other posts of phart 
Notice all I hear is crickets from cat, no one wants to explain why the law does nothing about these crazies until AFTER they do what they have been bragging about.
By #610414 at 07,Sep,24 15:53 other posts of #610414 
Well, Phart, hear this. As Bella pointed out in her other thread, there's this pesky document know as The Constitution of the United States. In it there are several freedoms that are guaranteed to all. One of these says (I'm paraphrasing), "● Freedom of speech: Free speech is necessary for the discovery of truth and the rejection of falsehood."
This allowed people to say or put down in writing whatever they fee they want to say without fear of being incarcerated.
The best law enforcement can do is monitor the individual and that is only slightly better than trying to stop the ocean tides.
Another freedom is the right to bear arms. No one remembers that the second part to that freedom is, "in order to maintain a well regulated militia".
You put these two "freedoms" together and that's how these tragedies come about.
Now, no one is naive enough to believe that these tragedies can be fully stopped. I don't think so either, but, regulation of firearms can certainly reduce the amount of casualties and/or number of such calamities. Even you have to admit that you can kil.l more children with a high capacity semiautomatic rifle than with a regular weapon.

BOTTOM LINE, unless we become an authoritarian country where freedoms don't exist, or we need to regulate the TOOLS of all this kill,ling.
By phart at 07,Sep,24 17:25 other posts of phart 
so you don't feel like the police couldn't send a fellow out to sit down and talk with the possible shooter and offer support, say mental or health wise to curb this persons desires to do harm? Intervention I think is what they call it. Prevention is what I call it.

In another way, if you feel your car shaking violently and you stop and see a huge knot coming up on the side of a tire, Do you drive past 4 tire stores and go to the grocery store and walmarts and then home? Later wonder why it blew out and woke you up at 2 am? no, you would probably stop at a tire store you trusted to take care of it and they offer to change the tire with a new or used 1 depending on your budget, sending you safely on your way. Preventing a wreck and allowing you to sleep that night.
See my point?
By #610414 at 08,Sep,24 13:20 other posts of #610414 
Oh, I agree with you. Sending someone to TALK to the guy is a good idea, but, first, it should be from a qualified team that trains for this. Second, it should be well documented so, later, when the shooter goes ahead with it anyway, people like you won't be able to say, "Nothing was done.".
By phart at 08,Sep,24 16:02 other posts of phart 
2 heavy set officers of the law with guns on their sides sitting down at the kitchen table 'splainin' that threats to harm people won't be tolerated doesn't require anything the police don't already know how to do ,scare and intimidate. cheaper than hiring more people to.
By #610414 at 08,Sep,24 16:14 other posts of #610414 
So bullying and intimidating is your choice. Isn't that a great way to use the underfunded police?
By phart at 08,Sep,24 23:35 other posts of phart 
it is the cheapest choice that could be implemented right NOW and as time passes and the problem is brought down out of the stratosphere ,better, more humane ideas could be implemented.

We need action NOW to prevent issues,action that does not take away our rights.but protects us.
By #610414 at 09,Sep,24 12:23 other posts of #610414 
The cheapest is gun restrictions.
By phart at 09,Sep,24 14:07 other posts of phart 
no that is the most expensive in human lives. alot folks will not give up their guns and will kill and or die to keep them .enforce current gun laws and things would improve
By #610414 at 09,Sep,24 14:55 other posts of #610414 
Want to bet? 99% would be too chicken and sending two fat pigs to intimidate will only cause more trouble. That 1 % that resists would commit sulcide-by-cop. Good riddance.
By phart at 10,Sep,24 01:15 other posts of phart 
you base that on the idiots that the news makes public.
ALOT of law enforcement own guns outside their jobs.and will not give them up,and alot of very quite people out there,that work,pay their bills,taxes and so on,are not going to be disarmed by a government they can't trust with their safety

Think about it cat, the US and others talked ukraine into giving up it's nukes. Look at it now,a waste land.
YOu think the average joe out here is going to let the same government talk them into giving up their guns knowing full well why the constitution was written so we could have them in the first place?
You grossly underestimate your neighbors.
By #610414 at 10,Sep,24 16:22 other posts of #610414 
No. I base it on a lifetime of interacting with most people and also judging by the reaction of most of the public to new laws and policies. The average person WILL NOT take up arms to protest an unwanted government action.
A case in point is the Jan 6, 2021 "uprising". If you were right and even if 50% of the electorate was willing to admit to that, then, why didn't millions march on the Capital to support the insurgents?
I'll tell you why. Because most (99%) people will not get involved if there's a chance it will cost them money or be subject to possible hurt or death.
And BTW, do you know why the Constitution gave us amendment 2? It's not what you gun nuts claim it is.









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On the second part, if my buggy is rocking' don't bother knockin' 🤣





By phart at 06,Sep,24 01:49 other posts of phart 
I agree
I don't quite get the ar for Christmas for a 14 year old. A good shot gun or something but that? odd.i mean really, my first 1 was a 22 Remington rifle.
By Cody8789 at 06,Sep,24 06:35 other posts of Cody8789 
Mine was a bb gun
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By dgraff at 07,Sep,24 21:18 other posts of dgraff 
My parents bought me my first deer 🦌 rifle when I was 12
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Sep,24 08:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And that's why you are a gun nut now.
If you had a personal reason to be depressed and angry,
you would become a risk factor for the next mass shooting.
Probably not some random kids, but some group you are taught to blame.
By dgraff at 09,Sep,24 08:30 other posts of dgraff 
Hog wash I was a vivid hunter and fisherman i went on to become a state champion pistol shooter later in years I went into law enforcement sheriff’s devision but not to worry my shooting skills were all used in a positive way
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Sep,24 14:00 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You have shown signals of it several times, fantasizing about an armed rebellion, when Democrats win the election. You have also told stories about you protecting your hill against whoever comes for you, which is a fantasy, because no one comes for you. You are content with your life now, but if
you lose everything, I see your fantasies of gun violence becoming a risk.
You're already angry about everything, that combined with sorrow and desperation is a toxic mix. It happens every day in your country.
It's not just the availability of guns, it's also your media.

Your media keeping their viewers fixed to the screen with constant fearmongering, creating outrage and anger. It fills people with bottled up anger, directed at a few scapegoats. Both sides do it, but the right-wing does it the most. They take everything that happens to and create a story with the intent to strengthen your bias towards their narrative and against the enemy, because it binds their viewers. They cannot go a minute without attacking the Democrats, liberals, unemployed 'moochers', working people in general, teachers, immigrants, black people, transgenders or wokeness in general.
You cannot watch that without it affecting your brain and stress. As long as
you personally are fine, you can suppress it, but it comes out when you are desperate. Then you will just be another statistic. Some of your acquaintances will say that you were a nice hard working guy, others will say they were afraid of you going mental, because of your big gun collection and extremist ideology.
Did you ever listen to people describing a mass shooter?
Many of them were just like you, but just snapped one day.
That snapping doesn't happen without build-up tension.
No entity builds up tension as much as right-wing media.
They are stirring in a pot of hate, adding ingredients, 24/7.
And just like phart and tecsan, you eat out of that pot as much as you can.

There is a reason for why mass murders happen so much more in your country. It's not the things that are exactly the same in other countries.
We have crazy people too. We don't have your guns and we don't have
your media. If it's not those things, then what is it?
By dgraff at 09,Sep,24 14:49 other posts of dgraff 
Then I guess that as a kid in my teens being trained by a United States marine gunnery Sargent that served in the Vietnam war on a half track behind a 50 caliber machine gun don’t help my case any
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Believe me I’m completely stress free I’m cool as a cumber I’m just fine nothing to worry about
By #610414 at 09,Sep,24 15:29 other posts of #610414 
Ok, Dgraff, I’ll ask. What could a United States marine gunnery Sargent that served in the Vietnam war on a half track behind a 50 caliber machine gun teach you, a gangly teen, on how to be a good member of society? Did he teach you how to k.ll or smoke weed? Did he teach you to take no 💩from anyone even though that anyone was just being normal but against your views? Did he teach you to be proud of your colors while sipping a cold one out of a can?
Please tell us.
By dgraff at 09,Sep,24 20:33 other posts of dgraff 
He taught me hand to hand combat skills
He taught me how to make weapons out of things from the earth
He taught me how to make a quarter staff and how to use it
He taught me survival skills
He taught me how to make a claymore mine using gunpowder and nails
He taught me how to disassemble a rifle in under a minute
And he encouraged me to compete in match shooting and become the champion i once was
Any thing else you want to know


By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Sep,24 15:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Happy to hear you are completely stress free I’m cool as a cumber.
I want to keep you that way, even though I might make your blood boil sometimes. Then you can release your anger on me.

Actually, professional weapons training might reduce mass murder.
It's gun fetishization that does the harm. Soldiers don't do that.
It's the crazies on Christmas cards of the whole family posing with rifles.
Of course, when someone does snap, gun training increases the kill ratio.


By phart at 10,Sep,24 01:28 other posts of phart 
You know, you have a valid point about our media and the hype they create.
What is interesting to me is that you have no proposals of fixing that problem of mass media creating hatred and division. something as simple as some regulations that require naming of sources of information for example
BUT instead of embracing that type of thinking, you would defend the media saying it was "free press" "freedom of speech"
The guns are the problem you would say,take away the guns.
when all the time the real cause of the problem is bullying and mass media concocted stories. Jan 6 would not have happened if our media was honest and name sources of info used to push either side of the agenda
By #610414 at 10,Sep,24 16:26 other posts of #610414 

I keep forgetting that the great unwashed of this country would not take a dump unless some media from the left or the right didn't tell them that toilet paper action was needed. When did we stop being a nation that does things by using their brains?

By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Sep,24 17:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
They have freedom of the press, which I fully support.
Only when they do clear defamation, doxing, incitement to violence
and threats, can the law act against them. That's why Fox'News' settled the $787 Million defamation lawsuit over false election claims with Dominion.

I would say "take away your guns", but I support Democracy too.
If the military industrial complex and the NRA didn't bribe your politicians, they would implement the common sense gun reform that a large majority
of Americans support. Instead they make a law that police cannot take the guns away from a wife-beater.

Just after your supreme court overturned Roe v Wade, they overturned gun law.
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Their argument is that unless the founders said anything against any specific gun technology, the law cannot restrict it. So the founders should have predicted bump-stocks and machine guns able to kill a crowd in seconds. Would this allow you to have nuclear missiles? In literal sense, yes!

You are damn right that Jan 6th would not have happened if your media
was honest, because they damn-well knew Trump was lying his ass off,
but they supported his lies, because of their political bias and MONEY!!
By phart at 10,Sep,24 19:03 other posts of phart 
No the liberal media lied and prompted the whole mess.

Read about what bump stocks are actually for.
They are made for folks like myself that have partial disability to be able to support the weight and recoil of a gun due to being able to use 1 hand and arm to hold it.
I would agree to having to show proof of handicap to purchase 1 or 2 over the course of time but to just ban them outright, no that is not the solution to the problem.
















By phart at 29,Aug,24 15:56 other posts of phart 
There is a massive homeless problem not only in california but all over the US, But instead of helping citizens buy homes, the fucked up state of california is going to help illegals that have no desire to become citizens to the country buy houses.
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Veterans under bridges and then this?
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,24 22:45 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I couldn't believe it, but this seams to be party true, although it is not intended just for undocumented immigrants, but for everyone. They just allow undocumented immigrants to apply for it too. There shouldn't be any undocumented immigrants in your country,
so they shouldn't be facilitated in any way, other than providing shelter. Every refugee and asylum seeker should be documented and vetted. If they have a clean slate and have a good chance to be naturalized, it should be OK for them to get working permits, and they should be able to rent a home, not buy one. Otherwise keep them in shelters, so they don't get lost. Then send them home, if they are not eligible for citizenship.

Kamala Harris has presented plans to help citizens buy homes, just recently.
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What is Trump's plan to deal with high house prices and rent?
Or his is plan just "solve the housing crisis", like all his other plans.
Does he have a plan for his cheap, great healthcare for everyone yet?
By #610414 at 03,Sep,24 23:33 other posts of #610414 
Trump has only one plan. Get elected and pardon himself. Sorry Bela!, I didn't mean intrude.
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You are not intruding and are welcome to post your thoughts.


By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 00:19 other posts of dgraff 
I just looked at a flyer for our next president trump it had his whole agenda on it but I must’ve thrown it away already one of his plans was to fix the economy and get rid of this horrible inflation then housing and rent will come back down along with everything else that sounds like a plan to me not like some dumb cunt saying she will start fixing everything on day one if she is elected well bitch what have you been doing the last 3 1/2 years sitting on your ass doing drugs with Biden’s son
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By phart at 04,Sep,24 01:55 other posts of phart 
cat took this to her thread, kinda like a cat taking it's dead mouse to it's hiding place. And she commented that kamella has supported her president. Well I haven't saw her push him in a wheel chair or do anything to actually support him. if anything she just rides his coat tails.
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I know she did and I’m bringing it back here we’re it started


By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Sep,24 06:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
His whole agenda is listing what you consider problems and than claiming he will fix it, with at best some stupidly simplistic plan, but mostly just the claim "Fix ...".

Even if he wants to fix things, cutting expenses, gutting regulations and giving tax-cuts to the wealthy, will make it utterly impossible to fix ANYTHING, it will only make everything WORSE.

Kamala doesn't say she'll "fix...", she says that she will sign specific bills into law.
Those bills have highly detailed PLANS in it. Yes, she can sign them on day one,
if she is elected, because they are fully PLANNED OUT.

Remember Trump's healthcare plan? He still doesn't have a PLAN.
His plan was just to destroy the affordable care act, but he has nothing
to replace it with. The plan is not to make healthcare more affordable,
the plan is to destroy the system that is in place now. You don't do that,
because people require healthcare. Without a plan to replace the PPACA,
your operation wouldn't be possible.

Republicans in the House hardly created any bills. The Republicans controlled the House, but wasted their time and didn't make any laws. They are/were the least effective House in American history. I would challenge them on bad plans, but there hardly are ANY. They just accepted their paycheck and did NOTHING, except spending lots of money on investigations, which didn't result in ANYTHING.

"plans was to fix the economy" That's not a PLAN dumb-ass that's a GOAL.
"get rid of this horrible inflation" Also not a PLAN!
Do you know what a plan looks like?

"then housing and rent will come back down" High housing and rent prices
are not CAUSED by inflation, they are causING inflation.
GREED causes high housing and rent prices. Big investors, like Blackrock, are buying up too many houses and renting them out for ridiculously high profits. That is the high rent and it creates a shortage on the housing market: high house prices.
Only REGULATING rent increases and the housing market against being dominated
by investors can reduce the prices. That's an option for a solution AKA PLAN.
Do you see NOW what a PLAN is?

PLANS are specific options for solutions to address the cause of a problem.
Trump NEVER explains his solutions, he just communicates GOALS.

Trump is a snake-oil salesman and you are the snake-oil customers.
By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 11:15 other posts of dgraff 
I don’t care about all that I see it differently and besides after seeing with my own eyes how sneaky the democrats are for instance like cat i will never believe a word that comes out of their mouths none of them
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Sep,24 12:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So, you don't care about Trump providing any plans,
and you won't ever believe anything Democrats say.
Absolute loyalty, to one side, without the need for them earning it.
I don't understand that. I don't think democracy is intended that way.
By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 12:16 other posts of dgraff 
Sorry they lied to me to many times just look at all the sneaky bull shit that has gone on just in my life time don’t forget i was at one time a democrat
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Sep,24 13:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You were a Democrat once? Then something changed your mind.
It couldn't be lying, because you picked the wrong side now.
I don't know what "sneaky bullshit" you are referring to,
but I do agree that Democrats can be sneaky.
Republicans are bold and are proudly being horrible people,
while Democrats are weak, sneaky and break promises.
It sucks that it's a choice between that, but if that's all you got,
you have to just judge them on what they deliver.
If you were correct on what they deliver, I would not argue with you.

By the way, I do see Democrats becoming more bold and unapologetic about
what they believe, while I see Republicans turning in sniveling weaklings. I watch more of your politics than is healthy for me, so I think I know what I'm seeing.

I also saw right-wing populism in my country winning bigly, with lots of promises
to do things differently. We are waiting for a long time and now they are presenting their plans. It's all a nothing-burger. It's just the same neo-liberalism we have had for decades now.
In one way I'm relieved that they are not destroying the government, but I'm also disappointed, because it they are doing and acting exactly the same as the last cabinet. They pushed forward an incredibly boring Prime Minister and they are planning incredibly boring tweaks around the edges with their politics. Our country does have some major problems that need addressing, but I've seen no plans to even try. It's all just "baked air".
Lots of big talk, but no actual ideas! Sounds familiar?
I'm not just shouting from a distance, I live in a similar situation.
By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 13:54 other posts of dgraff 
It’s a choice between two evils and I know trump is no saint but I just feel that living was easier when trump was in the White House I liked how he took a bullet for his country and emerged with his fist in the air yelling i will never surrender that showed strength and all the other countries seen it too and I suspect there will be another attempt at his life because of his strength
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Sep,24 14:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are those your arguments for why Trump is the lesser evil?
He did not take a bullet for your country, he's just living in the same country where kids get massacred in school, and almost got killed by exactly the type
of young white loner loser gun-nut, who massacre kids in schools.

I agree, Trump looked heroic there. He's not looking as heroic in his plastic box.
Democrats are living under the exact same risk of getting killed by a lunatic.
How hard would you laugh if I say Paul Pelosi is a hero, for almost dying from
an attack on democracy? It's closer to the truth than your claim.

The rest of the world doesn't see strength in Trump, they see a whining loser.
Don't fool yourself; with Trump as president, other countries will turn away from the US. You were always "America first", but their is no reason to deal with you,
if you are ONLY "America first". We don't believe in your one-sided loyalty.
By phart at 04,Sep,24 17:38 other posts of phart 
Quite honestly, America would be much better off if other countries DID TURN AWAY. Then we could pay attention to our own problems and not be tormented with the rest of the worlds. America first, THEN once we regain our strength, help those in need. How can we help others when we are weak as new born kittens?
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Sep,24 16:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You obviously don't understand how the global economy works.
Even as powerful as the US is, you still depend a lot on other countries.
Even if a tiny country like mine disinvests in the US, you would have
your worst economical crisis ever.

HOW do you want to pay attention to your own problems?
The ones that you don't deny exist, you don't want to fix.
What do you consider to be a problem and why can't you fix it NOW?
By phart at 08,Sep,24 23:32 other posts of phart 
I am only 1 person, who can only vote for someone that says they can fix it. Sure I could go to the border and hold up a sign, "go back home you illegal alien" but what good would it do?
1 thing that is a big problem is drugs. Put dealers and users in prison for a long time. problem solved.
but no, leave it on the streets and make money "controlling" the drug problem.
another thing that is a problem, well 2, cancer and Alzheimer's, stop treating the symptoms and start going for a CURE. I know it would put alot of university's out of funding but if a cure was found they could start on another problem.I could go on for days but 1 person can't do much
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Sep,24 08:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The problem is that you don't understand the problems and you just listen
to a guy who can only boast about being the best one to fix it, but who has
NO PLANS or plans that makes those problems WORSE.

Illegal immigration is a problem, but they have put the blame on the immigrants; those are just bad people, who want to take advantage of you. Why? They don't like you? Is that a good reason to leave your home and sit in the desert for months, until they can find a way into your country and then get exploited by some farmer or meat packing plant? You're stupid to believe that shit. What happened was that your country didn't like some South American countries doing pretty well, so they sanctioned them and toppled their governments. Now those countries are bankrupt and people are fleeing. You would flee too, if you lived there. It's not because America is so great, it's because you destroyed their livelihoods.

Indeed, drugs is a problem. Why do you have that problem so much more?
1) Because your healthcare system sucks. It's only intended to make lots of money for rich people and not for actually curing people. Instead of an operation to cure people, they just get painkillers, get addicted, get told to get off them cold turkey which is medical malpractice, so they turn to illegal painkillers.
2) Your economy only works for rich people, creating a hopeless situation for young people who couldn't afford a good education. Working for McDonald's or Walmart doesn't pay for anything, so it's a hopeless situation. That turns people to drugs.
You already have the highest incarceration percentage in the world and it doesn't fix anything. If being a dealer is the only way to get out of poverty, people will try it, no matter the risk.
Your drugs problem is destroying South American countries too. It's a multi-billion dollar business for criminals. There is no amount of policing they can do, to fight against such a well-funded criminal organization. It's for a big part American dollars funding that criminal organization. Meanwhile, your politics funds useless dictators, who will never solve that problem, because their only priority is enriching your billionaires and crushing their people more.

Like I said; your healthcare is only intended to make lots of money for rich people and not for actually curing people. There is more money in treatment; you pay $100,000 to get your life expanded every year, until you cannot pay anymore. Then you die and leave your family with a huge debt. That's what they want and that's the system YOU SUPPORT!

Everything you vote for makes all those problems WORSE!
Indeed, you are just 1 person, but you maximize your damage.
You are here, trying to convince people to maximize their damage too.
Not by intent, your intentions are good, You really believe this.

The problem is that you are fully brainwashed with lies that are intended
to enrich bad people. In some way you know this, but they filled your brain with antidotes against logic. As soon as I make sense, you ignore it and move on to the next topic. That's you brain preventing you from thinking.





By #610414 at 04,Sep,24 14:55 other posts of #610414 
Sure, life was better. This is pre-pandemic
Economic costs of the trade war

The trade war caused economic pain on both sides and led to diversion of trade flows away from both China and the United States. As described by Heather Long at the Washington Post, “U.S. economic growth slowed, business investment froze, and companies didn’t hire as many people. Across the nation, a lot of farmers went bankrupt, and the manufacturing and freight transportation sectors have hit lows not seen since the last recession. Trump’s actions amounted to one of the largest tax increases in years.”
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Bottom line, no toilet paper. He took a bullet because HE WAS THERE. Old Foot Spurs would never put his ass on the line on purpose.
By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 15:47 other posts of dgraff 
Were do you come up with this bull shit
Wake up your dreaming again what did your boy Biden do that was heroic oh yeah he waited till his wife came to help him up after that disaster of a debate with his cane 🦯 held high in the air yelling I’ve fallen and I can’t get up
Hey what does the White House smell like after the Biden’s lived there 3 years
Just depends
By #610414 at 04,Sep,24 18:38 other posts of #610414 
The bullshit is in history. Try it sometime. You think you are the only one wit eyes and ears? You think you are the only one that lived through those times? Biden may not have carried a riffle but he’s certainly gave a whole lifetime of service to the nation. What did the Clown do?
The White House after the Biden’s won’t smell any worse than after four years of farting Trump.
You know, Dgraff, having a political opinion about a president or party is ok. Trying to convince other people you are right by being uncouth is not. Take it from someone that knows it first hand.
By phart at 05,Sep,24 01:50 other posts of phart 
biden has been a racist democrat for how many years before being vice pres and pres? To long. Didn't want his kids riding to school with the black kids, did a eulogy for a racist klansman and all kinds of shit you can read about.

Trump didn't fight in a war. So what? He ran companys that provided jobs and opportunity's for 1000's of people over the years He was wealthy,and had little to gain by running for Prez except to try to fix the country, to get it back to what it was and can be again. to have grown up in America, you sure have lost sight of what it was and can be again. You want something that never was and shouldn't be.
By #610414 at 07,Sep,24 16:49 other posts of #610414 
Biden is out of the picture so let's stick with the Clown.
The state of New York says that "leisure and hospitality" companies like Trump's typically have a 1.5 multiplier effect.
Using that multiplier, the Trump Organization is responsible for about 34,000 jobs.
Related: Everything you want to know about Donald Trump's bankruptcies
This is a rough estimate. There are arguments to be made that it should be higher or lower.
Trump has acquired some existing properties, so one could argue he didn't create those jobs. He has also filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy four times for some of his properties, mostly in Atlantic City.
The hotels were still able to operate in bankruptcy, but Trump Plaza in Atlantic City did close in 2014, costing about 1,000 jobs.

Did he avoid going to Viet Nam? Yes, but, at the time, many young men did the same. Did it matter? I don't think so, but, it does rub the wrong way how he denigrates and disrespects those that gave their all for this country. For an ex Commander in Chief and someone trying to be one again, it's a disgrace. So, if the only thing that matters to you about how to do something for your country is a monetary gain, then, Sir, I submit that your love for this country is very small.








By phart at 08,Sep,24 23:17 other posts of phart 
uh, i can look back at 2016 thru 2019 and see what Trump can do for America, i don't need to hear anymore from him.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Sep,24 16:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You didn't hear anything from him, you just made it up.

Trump's record before the pandemic was bad too.
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His tax-cuts for the rich didn't result in wage increases for normal people
and his tariffs increased the outsourcing of American jobs.
He literally didn't do anything that helped normal Americans.

It's both because Trump is an idiot and because he don't give a shit about you,
but only cares about himself. When do you get that message?
By phart at 10,Sep,24 01:33 other posts of phart 
so you are telling me what I saw with my own eyes and what I lived thru during that time frame was all some fantasy? that nothing really happened?
how is it I could see people that had been struggling, finally get back on their feet during Trump? new trucks don't fall out of the sky you have to make money to get the loan to pay for them. and etc.

I didn't wake up from a good dream after 2019, I lived it in reality.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Sep,24 13:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You remember seeing what you want to remember.
Maybe you believe it, but it is wrong, because facts don't lie.
Yes, it is a fantasy! It is confirmation bias. You only see positive things if Trump is your president and you only see negative things if any Democrat is your president. You don't live in reality. Everything you say confirms that.
One example; you can just SEE climate change happening, it's clearly visible, unless a massive bias clouds your mind.

I lived through the Trump area too, and his actions even reached me.
His trade war with China affected everyone. You just want to forget that.
Note that you cannot point to anything he supposedly DID to help people.
He cut taxes for the wealthy and he cut low-income assistance programs.
There is no magic that this turns into spending power for normal people.
Even if some people were unaffected, nothing that Trump did helped them.

Biden repaired the damage of the Covid crisis. He had to fight back the massive inflation, created by shortages, price gauging and the $ 8 Trillion debt Trump added. That cannot go without affecting people, but that was not Biden's fault. Now your macro economy is doing better than anywhere else in the world. It's true that this has not helped a lot of normal people yet, but their wages are rising now. The only thing that is still hurting them is the high prices for everything. Nothing Biden did has caused that, that's now only caused by price gauging and the global market still being affected by the war in Ukraine. Ukraine was a massive exporter of grain, corn, sunflower seeds and other base food ingredients. That raises the prices. Sanctions against Russian oil and natural gas increased the energy prices. Actually, Biden reduced the prices a lot for the US, by reducing and increasing your energy reserves in a very smart way. You cry about your energy prices, but ours in Europe are FIVE TIMES HIGHER.

It doesn't matter what the facts are, you will believe what you want to believe, because Trump is a religion; you're in a cult.

Have you seen Trump answering the question about childcare?
You tell me what his plans are for childcare, from what he said?
You can't, right? Because his brain was malfunctioning and because he doesn't give a fuck about childcare, so he never thought about it.
It's very important to parents though, and for their ability to work and relieve
the labor shortage. A good president has plans for these things, but Trump
has none, because he sucks. He only has plans to screw and oppress people.






By phart at 04,Sep,24 17:24 other posts of phart 
show me a couple of those plans so we can look at them? No one has saw anything written what her plans are. She just claims to have them. I can claim to have plans, I can claim I will sign laws,but don't you think the people should at least be able to review her plans and ideas? Apparently she doesn't because they are no where to be found.
By #610414 at 04,Sep,24 18:40 other posts of #610414 
Phart, her proposals are all over the media. Even on FOX.
Maybe you want a manifesto like PROJECT 2025?
By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 20:10 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah she has plans all right after she loses the election her and Willy brown are planning to open up a strip club then she can make some real money doing what she does best
By #610414 at 07,Sep,24 17:00 other posts of #610414 
And you will be a major patron sucking o Willy's willy?
By dgraff at 07,Sep,24 21:05 other posts of dgraff 
No that’s cumswalla harris job
By #610414 at 08,Sep,24 13:40 other posts of #610414 
What is it with you, Dgraff, has your life been such a living hell that you have to be so negative about a presidential candidate and your VP by going to the most vile, disgusting, attributes? And I was vilified for calling another member a botched abortion.
By dgraff at 08,Sep,24 14:34 other posts of dgraff 
She’s not a member all though this is probably the kinda site she would hangout on i know the kinda things she put in her mouth 👄
By #610414 at 08,Sep,24 16:16 other posts of #610414 
From personal experience, right?
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No I was never in her mouth I don’t do dot heads












By Jamie at 08,Sep,24 21:27 other posts of Jamie 
I post about the same thing.
On Stuff just Stuff.
No one listen to me.
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Keep trying. I listen to you.




By AngelofDeath at 09,Sep,24 19:46 other posts of AngelofDeath 
Anyone been keeping up with the Wade Wilson Deadpool killer death penalty case in Florida?

Disgusting the amount of female’s that are so called in love with him saying he’s innocent after the dumb duck admitted to the murders to multiple people, all because they find him attractive.

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By kebmo at 07,Sep,24 17:42 other posts of kebmo 
So I’m just watching the morning news and here’s what I think…
Peace in the Middle East will not be seen in our lifetime. Since the inception of The State of Israel on May 14, 1948 and arguably for centuries before, the Middle East has not been at peace.
I remember when I was young, and Henry Kissinger thought he could do it, and some believed him. Many have tried after him and been equally unsuccessful.
The list of failed peace treaties is long and littered with hundreds of thousands of lives.
Turmoil in the Middle East is just something that I accept as fact and has no chance of changing within my lifetime or for generations to come.
I honestly don’t think that the major players want peace and that’s where it has to start.

This might sound like the meanderings of the uninformed, but I just don’t get why people still hate Jews after all this time. I certainly do understand why people have issues with the government of Israel, but that is a different story altogether.


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Just more BS from the Clown's campaign



By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Sep,24 09:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Murderer whose life sentence was commuted by Trump convicted of domestic violence
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A Trump Clemency Recipient Is Convicted of Domestic Violence
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Cop Killer Released by Trump Went on to Attack Wife
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The request for clemency was denied two times by the Office of the Pardon Attorney.
"Davidson's attorney Betty Schein, had deep connections to the Trump White House. Schein and her husband, Alan Futerfas, represented people associated with the Trump Organization, including Donald Trump Jr. Davidson's request for commutation also won the support of Alice Johnson, a woman whose life sentence was commuted by Trump after reality star Kim Kardashian championed her case. Johnson appeared in a 2020 Super Bowl ad supporting Trump's reelection and her support of Davidson was highlighted in the White House press release announcing the commutation of Davidson's sentence. According to Johnson, Trump's daughter Ivanka and son-in-law Jared Kushner assisted her in winning Trump's support for Davidson and others."


If this would have been clemency from Biden, the outrage would last FOR EVER,
but it was Trump, so FUCKING CRICKETS FROM THE RIGHT-WING!!
Maybe some right-wing 'news' might write about it, but Trumpists? SSSSHHH!

Look, these things happen, I'm not arguing about the incident, I'm arguing about
the hypocrisy of the right-wing, who is looking for things like this to relentlessly attack
Walz or Harris over, but they don't give a damn if it's Trump, while it's conflicting with
the harsh punishment they support.


By phart at 06,Sep,24 02:27 other posts of phart 
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Women with testes.


By bella! at 05,Sep,24 01:52 other posts of bella! 
And this is something you DO NOT want to be caught doing outside, says the Sarasota Police Department!

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By phart at 05,Sep,24 02:05 other posts of phart 
hand sanitizer ,yea right, call the fire department and hose everything down! The fellow musta been high on something. this is what happens when druggies are not dealt with.
By Cody8789 at 05,Sep,24 04:47 other posts of Cody8789 
Couldn’t see the video
By bella! at 05,Sep,24 05:48 other posts of bella! 
The link didn't work for you?

By dgraff at 05,Sep,24 11:26 other posts of dgraff 
It worked for me
By bella! at 05,Sep,24 11:51 other posts of bella! 
The guy was a complete freak!
By dgraff at 05,Sep,24 12:34 other posts of dgraff 
He must have been a liberal they believe in that sorta thing what next we will have candy running around showing her bits in public
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Nah, Skittles would never do that.

By #610414 at 05,Sep,24 15:46 other posts of #610414 
Dgraff so you are bound and determined to keeping me here, on this thread, by bating me? 😝
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By bella! at 05,Sep,24 11:53 other posts of bella! 
Hey, Cody, apparently public masturbation is a Florida thing. This fella was filmed in Starbucks in South Beach.

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By kebmo at 05,Sep,24 12:10 other posts of kebmo 
And yet she couldn’t turn her head and NOT look at it.
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By phart at 05,Sep,24 16:32 other posts of phart 
Cat, the fbi could have reacted to the internet post regarding jan 6 but did not. claiming policy did not allow. Since when did policy matter? It along with alot of shootings,could have been prevented.
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PBS< perhaps you will believe them?

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Making a false threat is also a crime? but why do they react to false 1's and not real 1s?
Alot of questions for you and others to answer'


By phart at 05,Sep,24 01:46 other posts of phart 
Has anyone else noticed that cat goes by a number ,not a name? Must be getting ready for 1 world government or something?


By bella! at 04,Sep,24 22:29 other posts of bella! 
Gentlemen, hold on to your wee-wee, this guy had cancer in his penis and ultimately, the penis was amputated.

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By phart at 04,Sep,24 17:36 other posts of phart 
Ananas2xLekker , here is some reality. Read the first line of this article. I didn't write it ok?

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Note skilled labor cost be credited for high repair bills.you constantly deny labor cost as being a cause of inflation,
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i can't help but notice no replys?


By bella! at 04,Sep,24 10:35 other posts of bella! 
What is WRONG with this woman? I watched and listened and wondered the same thing!

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By dgraff at 04,Sep,24 11:19 other posts of dgraff 
She must be a democrat because she saved the dog and left the kids at the burglars mercy that’s about how they think
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A republican woman would have grabbed her revolver out of the night stand and saved the kids and the dog by chasing the burglar off
And let’s face it there is nothing more scary than a woman in a towel with a hand gun
By phart at 04,Sep,24 17:27 other posts of phart 
Dgraff, Most ANY woman with any sense of mother hood would have gotten to the kids, naked or dressed. Mothers normally have instincts to protect their young. I guess it is being bred out a little each generation.?
but to just grab the dog and just say ,"don't hurt the kids?" she doesn't NEED kids,




By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Sep,24 14:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
A proposition by the late Christopher Hitchens:

There are 2 possibilities:
1) Humanity made God
2) God made humanity

In the first possibility, you expect God to be very absent and humanity to have constant disagreements about what God wants, because God is just the representation of what humanity wants. Humanity can never disagree, so you get conflicts over religion.
We are living the exact outcome you would expect, in that case.

In the second possibility, you have something to explain: Why is God so absent? Why are there so many different religions? Was that a mistake or on purpose? Why does God want humanity to be in conflict over him? Doesn't humanity not have conflicts enough already? What a strange God.

Of course you can rationalize it, making arguments towards your belief that God is real,
but if you just start with the 2 possibilities, the first one is the most consistent with reality.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Sep,24 07:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm just explaining one of the reasons for why it's impossible for me to believe in God.
If there is a God, she shouldn't have made my brain too logical to believe bad arguments. Or made it more reasonable to believe in her.




By AngelofDeath at 29,Aug,24 01:36 other posts of AngelofDeath 
Why do men, or profiles that pretend to be other men, continue to talk about Mila or post the pics? The person in the pics has to be pushing their 80's now and those pics are older than the shag carpet in CATs trailer. It's a man her supposed hubby Cured posting and always has been.
By bella! at 29,Aug,24 04:11 other posts of bella! 
As you alluded to in your blog, all it takes is the visual of a couple of boobs and/or a snatch and men are unable to think straight......
By Cody8789 at 29,Aug,24 05:07 other posts of Cody8789 
I think cured is a sick man and has nothing going for him except his allusions that he’s still, if ever, is with mila
By bella! at 29,Aug,24 11:52 other posts of bella! 
Not that it matters, are Cured and Mila married?
By phart at 29,Aug,24 15:57 other posts of phart 
I have never understood that member ,mila, same pictures over the course of best I can remember 10 years? why not updated 1's?
By Cody8789 at 29,Aug,24 22:16 other posts of Cody8789 
Couple of years ago, member cured told me he was married to Mila, whether that’s true or not I have no proof either way, I do know there is never new pictures of mila posted, they have always been the same pictures I’ve seen cured post in the last ten years, I guess mila never aged passed 50s. No new pictures have been posted in the last five years or so. Anyone can get those pictures off the internet and I’ve never seen anyone else in Milas pictures that would resemble a husband.
By AngelofDeath at 30,Aug,24 01:15 other posts of AngelofDeath 
There was a a time when there was an older guy in some but these pics look dated now

By dgraff at 30,Aug,24 10:54 other posts of dgraff 
Wasn’t mila a porn star from the 1970s i think i remember her doing a photo shoot with big John Holmes



By AngelofDeath at 30,Aug,24 01:15 other posts of AngelofDeath 
He said they are.




By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,24 23:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I have seen these photos popping up for like 20 years now,
from guys claiming that she was their wife or girlfriend.
With an internet full of naked pictures, can't they find some
that are not used a million times already?



By Jamie at 30,Aug,24 03:37 other posts of Jamie 
Do anyone believe this will happen I do.
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By Cody8789 at 30,Aug,24 06:22 other posts of Cody8789 
I do

By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,24 07:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Unless you build very high dikes. My country is already working at it.
Raising sea levels are not the first and worst problem though.
That's only going to be a problem after 2100, or so.

The problems have already started with mass immigration from areas in the world
that are becoming too hot for humans to live there.
Next is food insecurity, from destroyed harvests, from droughts, floods and hurricanes.
With food insecurity comes high food prices and starvation for the people who cannot afford them. I worry about that more, even while most of my country is below sea level.

There's a forum to discuss this; "Global Warming... What do you Believe?"

By dgraff at 30,Aug,24 10:58 other posts of dgraff 
It happened before and it will happen again it’s just one of the earths cycles they found fossils of sea creatures as far in as Pennsylvania meaning New Jersey Maryland and Delaware were under water at one time
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,24 13:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How do you know it happened before? Were you there?

Fossils? Are you referring to science?
You mean the same science that provides you a shitload of evidence
that climate change is real and man-made?
Well, maybe they find your fossil one day, and determine it is evidence
of man-made climate change.

Do you know that the CO2 concentration is higher now, than that time
you are referring to (130,000 till 115,000 year ago)? The CO2 concentration
was between 266 and 282 ppm then. It's at 422.49 ppm today. The last time
it was that high was between 2.6 million and 5.3 million years ago.
You are confusing millions of years with just decades. It's just as wrong as saying
you can shoot the moon with a .45 bullet. (to put it in a metric you understand)

New Jersey Maryland and Delaware will be under water in record pace.
It just takes a while before it warms the earth enough for all the ice to melt.
In stead of tens of thousands of years, it will take 250 years tops.

But, as I explained before, the sea level bothers me the least.
Funny enough, I worry about the same things as you; all the 'illegals' coming.
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By phart at 30,Aug,24 14:08 other posts of phart 
where the ice melts will become farmable.
just haul the tractors a few miles up hill from where they are now.
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Aug,24 22:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
True, there are areas that are too cold now for agriculture that will become 'farmable'.
It's bad news for your country, because most of it will become too hot.

However, it's not just the temperature that will become a problem in lots of areas,
it's the more extreme weather. You can have weeks or months of rain, with the crops rotting on the fields, then weeks or months of heat and drought, drying everything
to a crisp, followed by heavy storms destroying the rest.

In my country, it's year on year now, that we get told the potatoes are even more expensive than the year before, because a big part of the harvest rotted away
in the mud or that it was too hot and all the fruit was smaller.






By bella! at 26,Aug,24 05:59 other posts of bella! 
Thousands of tons of radioactive waste from atom bomb-making heading to Wayne County*.

* For a point of reference, the City of Detroit is located in Wayne County.

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By phart at 26,Aug,24 12:25 other posts of phart 
I read about that last week. Isn't it nice they are going to bury that stuff so it can leak and leach into your ground water?
It weren't long ago there was a big whoopty do about some lead in water pipes, I guess that is no big deal if you are glowing in the dark when the power goes off?
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these are nuclear plants, the stuff in michigan is from bomb experiments, even oLder ,less secured waste than the power plants.
Our local nuke plant had a "near miss" for a major incident when tree huggers started whining about fish being killed in the water inlets to the cooling pumps, so screen filters were placed there, only to CLOG up with fish and prompt the equipment to start heating!
By bella! at 26,Aug,24 12:40 other posts of bella! 
Thank you, Governor Gretchen Witch-mer!
By phart at 26,Aug,24 13:14 other posts of phart 
I feel sure there had to be some kickbacks money wise for letting this happen. i can't imagine willingly nuking my citizens for a few bucks but I aint a democrat.
By Cody8789 at 27,Aug,24 05:39 other posts of Cody8789 
Detroit is already a dump, whats a little nuclear waste gonna hurtlol. Lookin at Bella’s avatar, in the near future, the people of Detroit will have one big eye in the middle of there heads due to gene changes due to the falloutlol… bell, not making fun of your eye, so don’t send the dogs after me
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Good song, I always liked that song


By bella! at 29,Aug,24 17:00 other posts of bella! 
So you think Detroit is a "dump", eh? Read it and weep, Cody!

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By Cody8789 at 29,Aug,24 22:21 other posts of Cody8789 
I wouldn’t want to drink the water there and I also watched a video on the top ten nasty cities in the us and Detroit was one of them. I’m surprised Miami wasn’t on that list because I’ve seen shitholes in Miami that I wouldn’t be caught dead in.
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I think every city has its negative area where the low, low income people live.
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By phart at 23,Aug,24 01:16 other posts of phart 
With the discussions on other threads about education and our kids,I can't help but wonder if this type thing will be acceptable to be taught in schools. A 2 year old that was never exposed to anything but alternative reality's like this until 18 would never know it from the truth.
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The war of 1913
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Aug,24 07:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Who thinks this is taught in schools?

Kids being exposed to anything but alternative reality, is exactly what is happening.
Republicans are unconstitutionally pushing religious dogma on kids, as science.
By phart at 23,Aug,24 14:15 other posts of phart 
I was asking if you think it is ok if this is all kids were taught,which they aren't taught reality in school , if they were ,things would be much better.
They wouldn't be lied to like I was that the only way to make it was go to college, I coulda took a job in the trades right out of high school and done MUCH better for myself but i took the guidance counselors advise. and she got a kick back from the college
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Aug,24 22:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You come up with some science fiction movie and you ask if it is OK to teach this to kids as reality. Of course not! Should they teach them that Spiderman is real?
If you want to mess up kids' minds, so they are unable to distinguish stories from reality, teaching them religion is how you do it. Because, to accept reality, you first have to teach them to ignore reality and then believe whatever your saying. It's like forcing them to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter bunny their whole life. And if you do that, they might also believe your video was actual history. Anyone who has been taught critical thinking recognizes this as fantasy immediately.

Schools need to teach kids real facts that are important to know, skills that they need
to participate in civilization and to develop themselves and are necessary to cooperate with other people. What is even your point?
By phart at 25,Aug,24 23:13 other posts of phart 
Well, at least you didn't say it was a great idea to teach them that the fiction was real.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Aug,24 08:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
How would you even be able to think that?

Fiction like that is for entertainment purposes. Sure, you can learn some life-lessons from good works of fiction, but not facts. The problem is when those works of fiction are being presented as facts, like they do with religion.
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So all this is fiction?
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Aug,24 21:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are they uncovering anything that supports the miracles of Jesus?

The stories of Spider-Man all happen in New York.
So Spider-Man is real, because New York is real?

Is your 'Automatons 1913' story real, because robots exist?

There is just as much history supporting Thor, Odin, Zeus and Ra.
Their stories contain real places and people who really existed.
Do you believe in all of them?

There is even more evidence that Muhammed actually existed.
Do you believe Muhammed split the moon and rode a winged horse?

It's even likely there was a guy calling himself the son of Jesus around 2024 years ago, that doesn't mean he actually was. In the last several thousand years, there were millions of people acting like prophets, faith healers, people with special gifts and unnatural abilities. Many of them were killed as blasphemers. There were people who believed in them too, writing stories about them. Besides that these stories were popular and survived the times, there is nothing special about the chucked together bunch of texts, we now call the Bible. Of course the Bible contains real places and real people, they wanted people to believe it.
I'm just humoring you to give it a capital B.

Harry Potter has a flying car. Do you believe that it flies,
if I tell you it's a Ford Anglia, a car that actually exists?

You're just showing you don't understand the basics of critical thinking.
Stories and lies are often packed in pieces of truth, to make them believable.
By phart at 28,Aug,24 23:23 other posts of phart 
Well the "facts" about history you take to be truth, how did you learn them?
Someone told you or wrote it down for you to read that van Gogh painted a picture ,the Starry night. Can we be sure that some homeless man didn't paint it and van gogh didn't kill him and steal it in order to take credit?
How can you be so sure of anything to discredit me?

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By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Aug,24 07:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
History is a science too. Historians use a lot of the same methods to determine what is true and what is not. It all comes down to the number of sources and the type of sources that confirm or refute information.

There is much more information supporting the existence of Vincent van Gogh, than there is information supporting the existence of Jesus. Of course there are all the paintings, but there are letters (820 by van Gogh and 83 to him) and he lived in a time when governments kept records. His birth record and records from the places he lived still exist. Van Gogh used postcards with stamps from the places he lived, stamped with the place and date. There were other people writing about him, when he was still alive. It all amounts to a massive pile of evidence that van Gogh really existed. There is the possibility that some information about him is incorrect, but all the different sources confirm his existence and that he was responsible for those paintings.

For the existence of Jesus, the only evidence is the compilation of texts, written by several unknown writers, decades after his supposed death. It's possible that some of the writers actually knew the person they wrote about, but there is clear evidence that others copied from each other or had written down stories they heard. All the witnesses that Christians talk about are just stories about witnesses. There is nothing existing from them or about them. There is just the Bible and nothing more. That the Bible describes places and events that actually happened is unremarkable. That the texts describe supernatural abilities is unremarkable. There are texts about other figures from that time, like emperors, kings and famous soldiers, describing supernatural abilities. There is more evidence for the existence of other religious figures, than there is for Jesus.

People just believe the stories of the Bible over the Quran or the Bhagavad Gita or vice versa, depending on the culture they grow up in. If all those Holy books described important facts about God, creation and nature in the same way, that would be significant, but every neutral observer sees the failability of humanity emanate from every single page and the Holy books as a collection.









By Mongo at 23,Aug,24 07:39 other posts of Mongo 
Just checked that out, what a awesome "Steampunk" short film.

Have you checked out any other the short films this AI artist has produced on his channel, they are quite good, I've seen a lot of AI generated art now, film & imagery, much though provoking & entertaining at the same time.


Fantasy art has been around for a long time now, but these AI artists have really turned it up a notch.

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This is a "trailer" that the same artist is working on towards a film, thankyou for sharing your link phart, I will defiantly be adding this artist to my Tube list



By phart at 27,Aug,24 15:12 other posts of phart 
this song defines the reason for the decline in our society.
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