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By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Jun,25 09:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If even Candace Owens gets it, why don't most of you?
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By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Jun,25 08:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Hear it from the two most extreme right-wingers in the world:
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By phart at 26,Jun,25 17:31 other posts of phart 
why chance death like this?
is that "thrill" really worth dying for?

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By CAT52! at 26,Jun,25 18:12 other posts of CAT52! 
I don't think he was expecting death. He did want the thrill. A man must, to be a real man, challenge his limitations. Most men won't.

By bella! at 26,Jun,25 18:18 other posts of bella! 
THRILL…..It’s something that you and I aren’t able to comprehend. Did you read the young man’s accomplishments? He climbed Mount Kilimanjaro at the age of 12, he was a licensed paraglider at the age of 14 (who knew you needed to be licensed to be a paraglider?) and by the age of 18, he was flying in the wingsuit. The THRILL is something that safe people like us, will never understand.
By Cody8789 at 26,Jun,25 22:40 other posts of Cody8789 
you won’t even get me on a jet especially with all the problems lately with crashes and fires and so forth
By phart at 27,Jun,25 02:21 other posts of phart 
oh cody, you skeeredy cat, who needs wheels and doors at 30,000 feet? just hang on to the barf bag !

i can't fly,and i can't swim. i also stay out of things that do that for other humans.
By Cody8789 at 27,Jun,25 06:26 other posts of Cody8789 
As long as my feet are on the ground and I’m in control of the vehicle I’m good.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Jun,25 14:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Don't ask me about the skydiving, because I wouldn't do it for $1000.
But, my girlfriend did it, and loved it.

If I had the money, I would love to race cars. That's "thrill" seeking too.
Do you ask the same question, if someone dies during a racing accident?

Racing cars, especially at the professional level, is considerably more dangerous
than skydiving. Many more people die from it. I would still do it though.
By bella! at 28,Jun,25 10:14 other posts of bella! 
I might have a big misconception about European folk and cars HOWEVER cars are widely used by everyone here from the time they can legally drive, which is somewhere around the age of 16 until …….

You mention that you would like to race cars and my guess is there are others that share the same desire as you in nearby towns and countries. Unfortunately there’s a whole-lotta car unofficial car racing going on here every day and there are fatalities associated with it. Heck, I can be coming home from the market on a clear, sunny afternoon, road conditions are dry and hit or be hit by another driver because of something as simple as a momentary distraction. Getting behind the wheel of a car is a “chance” many folks take every day.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Jun,25 18:12 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There are many Europeans who like cars and like to drive fast. We might use public transport and bikes more, but those are practical considerations. It's much easier to not have a car in my country, but I would just feel incredibly limited, if I wouldn't have a car. However, if we go to our city center for a movie, we often use the bikes, because parking in the city center costs $4/hour. We just had a week in Paris, but except for 1 time, we left the car in a Park & Ride and used the train and subway the whole day. It's impossible to do what we did by car. There's just no parking spaces available near the Sacrй-Cњur, the Louvre, the Notre-Dame, the Eiffel tower, the Arc de Triomphe, etc.

I only got my driver's license at age 21, but I have driven cars in Germany, Greece, Belgium, France, Italy, Denmark and the UK. Those are challenging experiences that made me a far superior driver than the average American, I'm sure. Most Americans cannot even drive a car with a manual transmission.

Last year, I got a track day on our circuit Zandvoort, for my birthday. I raced a Porsche, Lamborghini, Ferrari and Alpine, together with my best friend. We both drove 5 laps with each car, behind a pace car. The driving pace was challenging at first, but I got used to it quickly. There are always several groups of race cars on the track at the time, that drive about the same speed, because too much overtaking would be dangerous.
The maximum speed that I drove that day was around 130 mph on the straight. I'm sure we could have reached 155, if the pace car allowed it. It was a lot of fun, but I would love to be allowed to go flat out. However, that would be an even more expensive racing package. That day already cost Ђ955 ($1.119,40). It's not that I couldn't afford to do this more often, but their are more important goals that I want to save money for.
By Cody8789 at 28,Jun,25 21:42 other posts of Cody8789 
I wish I knew how to drive a car like you, us Americans don’t even know how many tires are on a car or that the car need gas to run, I guess I’ll have to continue to ride my skateboard to work in the snow barefoot everyday
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Jun,25 14:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Thanks.
Driving a skateboard requires real skill. I can't do it.

By dgraff at 29,Jun,25 15:11 other posts of dgraff 
OMG Cody i can just picture you on a skateboard with your hand high in the air giving the peace sign and yelling skate or die dude with your hat on backwards

By CAT52! at 29,Jun,25 18:43 other posts of CAT52! 
CODY, You should qualify that about American drivers. Your generation was and is the lazy ones. I learned to drive on a ‘58 Volkswagen. Stick shift, naturally. My Mustang had 4-on-the-floor. In my time everyone knew what that meant.
By Cody8789 at 29,Jun,25 22:58 other posts of Cody8789 
Cat, I only drive stick shift, automatic is too boring, my ws6 is a six speed and I have reached speeds of 160 several times, when I used to drag race at the track I raced cars that went 180 mph in the quarter mile track in eight and a half seconds in the quarter mile. I raced cars ar Moroso Miami Hollywood speedway, Moroso motorsports park in west palm beach atlanta dragway, Bristol speedway and 411 dragway in Knoxville. I’ve been racing cars since the seventies.
By CAT52! at 30,Jun,25 00:48 other posts of CAT52! 
Good for you, but, my premise holds. You are an exception, not the rule.
By Cody8789 at 30,Jun,25 01:35 other posts of Cody8789 
I’m currently working in my garage on a svt cobra mustang putting a race cam, lifters and double springs in, I do performance upgrades in my garage for little money because I like working on cars. I will post a picture on my page of the mustang.
By bella! at 30,Jun,25 01:51 other posts of bella! 
What year?

I still want to own a Mustang before I get too to get in and get out of it! You should see all the old farts around here tooling around town in their convertible Vettes! I think it’s just the old farts that are able to afford the car and its insurance!
By Cody8789 at 30,Jun,25 05:48 other posts of Cody8789 
I think it’s a 2004, my ws6 is a 2002 and it came with a ls6 from the factory which only 250 ws6s were outfitted with ls6 because being the last year and all the performance options they ran out of ls2s so the put the ls6 in the last 250 cars, I have the documentation to show it and the original windo sticker for that car which I bought brand new.


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By bella! at 28,Jun,25 21:57 other posts of bella! 
Very, very cool gift you were given. I enjoy giving gifts that are unexpected and something that the recipient might not indulge themselves with. The fastest I ever drove was in the low 90’s and I had no idea I was going that fast and quickly slowed down. I’ve never rode on a motorcycle and I probably would be scared shitless. No windshield, no hood, no doors, no trunk, absolutely nothing to offer you any protection. Not for me, no how, no way!

Your last sentence says much about you and in that respect, we are much alike! I lean toward being “practical”. One truth about me; I do not buy lottery tickets, never bought a lottery because I do not feel that I am “lucky”. Luck for me is keeping my $20 rather than pissing it away on lottery tickets that would probably be losers. Prior to leaving employment, if there were football squares for sale, I’m in and IF OF there was a Mega Lottery of some sort, I would toss in some cash (we never won anything).
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Jun,25 15:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I was actually investigating if there is something similar for motorbikes as we did with sports-cars. So far, I have not found one that provides this to people who don't have a driver's license for motor-bikes. If I find something, I'm probably going to do it.

We are a member of the state's lottery, so I do spend money on a ridiculously low chance to win a lot of money. I know it doesn't make sense mathematically, but it provides me some inspiration and motivation. As long as I don't win a lot of money,
I'm trying to make it the old fashioned way and the more modern way, which is investing in stocks. I'm not getting rich from it yet, but I made about $11,500 with it. That's a good return on my time investment, because I don't spend a lot of time on it.







By phart at 26,Jun,25 03:11 other posts of phart 
here is anannas a electric car he might like
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By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Jun,25 09:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's a great idea for an electric car. I hope it does well.
But, it's not really my style. If I had that kind of money, I would buy something else.

It's a gimmick for wealthy people, not a serious EV to compete with others.
There's several other great EVs you can buy for that money and fill a big garage.
It's twice the price of a Lucid Air Sapphire.
By phart at 26,Jun,25 12:11 other posts of phart 
well, it's built to last a lifetime, that is why it is not cheap. if you read the details.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Jun,25 11:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I won't be spending $500,000 on cars, in my lifetime.
They are trying to build a Rolls-Royce, Bugatti or Spyker,
cars that will be cherished for ever.

They might succeed, but that's a useless concept for us mortals.
It's not economical/cost-effective to design a car to last for ever.

I'm trying to be maximally cost-effective, at my personal level of comfort and luxury, which is increasing with my accumulation of wealth. 20 Years ago, I could not afford a car with the level of comfort and luxury of the car that I bought next.
9 Years ago, I could not afford a car with the level of comfort and luxury that I will likely buy in a few years, when my current car is economically obsolete.

That's because the advancement of technology renders cars obsolete too quickly.
A car that's cutting edge today, is standard in 5 years and outclassed in 10 years.
Of course there are also environmental considerations. Replacing a car too soon will be a waste of it's construction resources. However, newer cars are more efficient, which means using cars too long is also a waste of resources. Cars can be recycled for up to 95% of its weight today. The resources to build a new one is mostly energy. That is still different for the batteries of an EV, but there is also a environmental optimum for their life-span. That's because their energy density is continuously improving. It's not environmentally friendly to keep driving around with heavy old-fashioned batteries,
when newer types are much more energy dense, because that's a waste of energy too.

By bella! at 28,Jun,25 10:29 other posts of bella! 
I use my phone and didn’t even see (or find anything) regarding the projected cost. Admittedly I stopped looking when I started chuckling about the proposed hand crafted WOOD hood of the vehicle. Wood, really?


By bella! at 28,Jun,25 10:25 other posts of bella! 
I do not think that electric cars will come to full fruition in North America for quite some time or ever. Personally, I think HYBRID is the way to go and is the way of the future.
By phart at 28,Jun,25 11:23 other posts of phart 
well i agree with you on hybrid ,especially for trucks.
just as with the trip i will be making next week. towing about 3 tons, that knocks the range of a ford lightning down to about 80-90 miles. i would have to recharge halfway where i am going for hours.
By bella! at 28,Jun,25 12:12 other posts of bella! 
How many miles are you towing and approximately 6,000lbs? What in the world are you towing?

By bella! at 28,Jun,25 15:27 other posts of bella! 
What do you think a GMC SIERRA EV Denali, current base price $89,900.00, with moderate use will have for a trade in allowance or resale value in 6 or 7 years? My GUESS is zip, nada, NOTHING. That’s probably one of the vehicles that a new battery is going to cost $20,000.00. Oh, hell NO!
By phart at 28,Jun,25 17:54 other posts of phart 
camper
batterys cost so much to replace ,even with todays tech. i can feed a hemi a couple gallons of gas once in a while cheaper than i can replace a ev battery







By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Jun,25 17:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Remember people saying that Hamas are cowards,
for hiding in underground bunkers, in civilian areas?
Netanyahu is doing the same thing, right now:
using his own civilians as human shields.
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Israel attacked Iran. Is Iran now allowed to completely destroy Israel?
By Cody8789 at 13,Jun,25 21:12 other posts of Cody8789 
Iran don’t have the capability to initiate Israel, it’s more the other way, Israel can nuke Iran.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Jun,25 22:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That was clearly not the point. In any case, don't be mistaken about the military power
of Iran. They probably don't have nukes, but they have around 610.000 active soldiers, while Israel only has about 170.000. You're making a big mistake, if you allow Israel to pull you into a war with Iran. Do you want to sacrifice American soldiers for them?

Iran is a big country, with 88 million people and a military about half as strong as Russia. Iran is stronger than Iraq and Afghanistan put together, when Bush attacked them.
Those wars cost you about 4.2 Trillion dollars and about 6,900 American soldiers.
War with Iran will cost you more. You don't owe that to Israel. They are genocidal maniacs, who you shouldn't defend, when they start a war. They owe you, for always looking out for their interests, over your own.

By the way, wasn't Trump the anti-war candidate? It's now clear that he sanctioned
the Israeli attack on Iran.
By Cody8789 at 15,Jun,25 00:14 other posts of Cody8789 
You mean like when 180,000 American soldiers beat the 900,000 iraq soldiers in two weeks, you underestimate the Israeli soldiers who are among the best fighting soldiers in the world. And Russia isn’t strong if you take away there nukes, the u.s could defeat them in weeks if there wasn’t any nukes involved.
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The u.s lost 4400 in the war with Iraq, but 140, 000 Iraq solders were estimated killed.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Jun,25 12:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
TWO WEEKS? The world has been dealing with your bullshit war for 22 years.
It will be over when Iraq is as stable as under Saddam Hussein again.

Here is what ChatGPT has to say about that:

The statement "180,000 American soldiers beat 900,000 Iraqi soldiers in 2 weeks" is a dramatic oversimplification. While it reflects some numerical contrast and the speed of the 2003 invasion, it misses critical context. Let’s break it down fairly:

✅ What’s True:

The U.S.-led coalition (mostly American, about 180,000 troops) invaded Iraq in March 2003.

The Iraqi military was large on paper, with several hundred thousand troops (including army, Republican Guard, and paramilitaries).

Baghdad fell within 3 weeks (April 9, 2003), and the Iraqi government collapsed rapidly.

The conventional war was won very quickly.

❗️Why That Statement Is Misleading:
1. Iraqi Forces Were Severely Weakened:

Iraq's military strength was a shadow of what it was in 1991.

Sanctions, no-fly zones, desertions, and corruption had eroded readiness and morale.

Much of the Iraqi army didn’t resist or deserted quickly.

2. Coalition Superiority Was Overwhelming:

The U.S. had air superiority, precision weapons, night vision, electronic warfare, and logistics dominance.

It wasn't a head-to-head manpower war—it was an asymmetric technological fight.

The war plan ("Shock and Awe") aimed to paralyze Iraqi command structures, not engage in trench warfare.

3. "900,000 Soldiers" Is Inflated:

Estimates of Iraq’s active, combat-ready forces in 2003 are closer to 350,000–400,000, including regular army, Fedayeen Saddam, and Republican Guard.

The 900,000 figure may include reserves or inflated claims.

Many Iraqi units were undermanned or ill-equipped.

4. War Didn’t End in 2 Weeks:

The conventional phase ended quickly, but the insurgency and occupation dragged on for years.

The post-invasion phase killed more U.S. troops than the initial war.

Iraq was not "defeated" in the traditional sense—it collapsed and descended into chaos, which led to civil war and later the rise of ISIS.

Better Way to Say It:
"In 2003, a highly advanced U.S.-led coalition of about 180,000 troops quickly dismantled Iraq's weakened and demoralized military in a few weeks—thanks to overwhelming technological and tactical superiority, not sheer manpower."

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In short: No, the U.S. could not overwhelm Iran in 2025 as easily or quickly as it did Iraq in 2003. While the U.S. would retain technological and air superiority, Iran presents a vastly more difficult military, geographic, political, and societal challenge.

Let’s break this down in key categories:

🪖 1. Military Capability: Iraq 2003 vs Iran 2025
Factor Iraq (2003) Iran (2025)
Combat troops ~350,000 demoralized, poorly equipped ~600,000+, with hardened IRGC & paramilitary units
Air defenses Obsolete SAMs, no air force effectiveness Dense, layered modern air defenses (Tor, Bavar-373)
Ballistic missiles Very limited Massive arsenal, regional reach (1,000s of missiles)
Navy Minimal, outdated Fast attack craft, mines, anti-ship missiles
Proxy network None Strong (Hezbollah, militias in Iraq, Yemen, Syria)
Cyber warfare None Advanced cyber capability

👉 Iran’s military is more prepared, modernized, and decentralized. It has invested heavily in asymmetric warfare.
🌍 2. Geography

Iran is ~4x larger than Iraq, with rugged, mountainous terrain that favors defense and insurgency.

Iraq was largely open desert, ideal for rapid U.S. armor and air movement.

Iran’s terrain would slow ground invasion and stretch logistics.

🧠 3. Political & National Cohesion

Iraq’s regime in 2003 was a fragile dictatorship, with weak internal loyalty.

Iran’s government, while authoritarian, has stronger nationalistic support—especially in the face of foreign attack.

A U.S. invasion would unify many factions against an external enemy, even among anti-regime Iranians.

💣 4. Technological Asymmetry

The U.S. would maintain dominance in airpower, surveillance, naval capability, and precision strikes.

However, Iran has adapted to U.S. military doctrine and built a doctrine of missile saturation, proxy retaliation, and denial zones.

Iran can strike U.S. bases across the Middle East (Qatar, UAE, Bahrain), and has anti-ship missiles threatening the Strait of Hormuz (20% of global oil supply flows there).

🧨 5. Occupation & Aftermath

In Iraq, regime change led to chaos, insurgency, and civil war.

In Iran, occupation would likely be bloodier, longer, and far more expensive, with urban warfare and national resistance.

Iran's population is ~90 million—compared to Iraq’s ~25 million in 2003.

📈 6. Strategic Risk

War with Iran would:

Destabilize the region

Trigger proxy retaliation (Hezbollah, Houthis, Iraqi militias)

Potentially spike oil prices globally

Fracture alliances, depending on how the war is framed

✅ Conclusion:

A U.S.-led coalition could defeat Iran militarily, but not quickly, cheaply, or cleanly. It would be nothing like Iraq 2003. The U.S. would win the initial fight but face a deep quagmire, especially in any attempt at occupation or regime change.
By dgraff at 27,Jun,25 18:15 other posts of dgraff 
Are you a writer or a sex addict on a sex site
Oh I know you could be both I bet you write perverted nursery rhymes for children
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Jun,25 18:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I said it was ChatGPT, didn't I?
You don't have to be a sex addict, to be on this site.




By dgraff at 15,Jun,25 12:13 other posts of dgraff 
I’m sure Iran 🇮🇷 don’t want the United States 🇺🇸 getting involved they remember the first couple days of desert storm
Iran has been a thorn in the United States side since the 1970 when they would not let Israel tanker’s through to deliver fuel to the United States causing gas shortages and gas rationing i think it was 1978 we should have fucked them up then already
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But we had a democrat president that left Iran walk all over us
What a coward jimmy carter was
By Cody8789 at 27,Jun,25 15:00 other posts of Cody8789 
I’m not going to read that book you posted, first of all anyone can google the internet and find an answer to whatever suits them, finding it on the internet doesn’t mean it’s correct, and second, I really don’t care, I live my life the way I want to and I’m enjoying how I live it. I won’t get into a political argument with anyone, I made my point and I don’t continue with the nonsense of arguing,

By Cody8789 at 27,Jun,25 15:02 other posts of Cody8789 
I think jimmy carter was one of the worst presidents we ever had, he might have been a good person but had no business being president.
By dgraff at 27,Jun,25 18:08 other posts of dgraff 
but he promised free peanuts to everyone that’s how he got elected
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I rather have Billy beer
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I remember that nothing like peanuts and billy beer 🍺







By phart at 15,Jun,25 11:43 other posts of phart 
if your dr found a small cancerous tumor in you, would you rather he went in and took it out before it grew bigger or would you wait until it became terminal?
Isreal bombed iran before it's nukes were completed because it knows iran will use them to kill innocent people as soon as they get them viable.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Jun,25 17:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The only ones who ever killed innocent people with nukes is the US.
It's all a lie, every specialist says Iran is not working on nukes.
Even Trump's own people said that Iran was not working on nukes.

Israel has been saying for decades that Iran was weeks off from having nukes.
So fuck Israel, they have always been lying, so I dismiss them 100%.

Even if Iran would have nukes, they would not use them, because that's suicide.
So stop parroting that dumb-ass lie.

Honestly, I trust Iran more with nukes than the US.
You manage to be more crazy than Muslim extremists. How do I know that?
Trump just started a war without one vote from congress, which is unconstitutional.
Every reaction from the Iranians was agreed on by their Parliament.
That makes them more democratic on that point, than your criminal regime.

The only thing you are doing is encouraging Iran to start making nukes,
because that's the only thing that protects them from you.
By phart at 23,Jun,25 18:25 other posts of phart 
you are so naive. what other reason would iran have underground bunkers if they are not making nukes?
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these are the folks you are concerned about.
that video is 2024 by the way.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Jun,25 10:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Naive for not believing Israel? They have told the same lies for decades.
If your own CIA, just a few months before, said they were no were near developing
a nuke, then I don't believe Israel or Trump saying the opposite.

I'm sure they are working at it, but that's your fault for breaking the deal.
Them working at it, is not the same as them being close at succeeding.
They were not working at it, when the deal was still standing.

You are forcing them into needing nukes, because they are not safe without them.

Do you find it strange that they hate you? That's naive.
You have broken every deal you ever made with them.
When you had a deal, their part of it was getting their OWN money back.
Your country is helping Israel do a genocide of Muslims.
When any country does something to address that genocide, you bomb them.
Your country is a much more evil actor on the world than Iran.
And that's saying something, because Iran is legitimately horrible.
But your actions are encouraging their citizens to support that horror.

It's all the US's fault that I have to worry about the Middle East again.
We have enough going on with Russia, for which you are not much help either.
You should search for some videos of what Russians are saying in their parliament
and on their TV channels, it's about the same as what Iran is saying. They are grooming every citizen to love death, starting in the schools. It's a DEATH CULT. Maybe it's not yet working for all their citizens, but it's working for enough of them.
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By bella! at 27,Jun,25 03:51 other posts of bella! 
This short video showcases police that didn’t handle a police matter correctly.

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By phart at 18,Jun,25 18:58 other posts of phart 
here is a great case for leopoldij and Ananas to look over and try to explain why this man deserves any justice.

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so you wreck your car, and you cut up the woman who was riding with you and put her in some plastic bins and tape the lids shut. then you sit on the couch among the smell of rotting flesh. sounds like a real hero that folks like leo would put back out on the street on a 100 dollars bail.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Jun,25 18:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What's your argument?
That police can search any house, without reason, because they might find crimes?

I'm not against police doing their job. I'm against them fucking with our FREEDOMS!
By phart at 23,Jun,25 18:26 other posts of phart 
so you are ok with the woman missing, and the man being free with her rotting in his house in crates?

police find a wrecked car, and locate it's owner to do a welfare check and find him in his stinking house with a womans rotting flesh in crates, if you think that is a violation of something, you are wrong, i know for a fact wellness checks save lives around here.
here is a google search of what is a wellness check and what can be done, not all of it but enough to explain it for you.


During a wellness check, police can legally enter a residence without a warrant if they have a reasonable belief that someone inside is in danger or needs immediate assistance. This is often referred to as the "community caretaking function" of law enforcement. They can also ask questions of the individual and others on scene, and document their observations and actions, including taking photos or videos with consent or if something is in plain view. If they determine that the individual requires further help, they may call for emergency medical services, transport the person to a mental health facility, or even detain the individual under certain circumstances.


Legal Basis:

Community Caretaking Function:
Police have a responsibility to protect public safety and welfare, which includes responding to calls for wellness checks.

Exigent Circumstances:
If there's a reasonable belief that someone is in imminent danger, officers can enter a property without a warrant. This is a legal exception to the usual warrant requirement.
Reasonable Suspicion:
While a wellness check doesn't require the same level of suspicion as a criminal investigation, officers must still have a reasonable basis for believing that someone is in need of assistance.

What Police Can Do:

Enter a Residence:
If there's no response at the door and officers have a reasonable belief that someone inside is in danger, they can enter the property.

Speak with the Individual:
Officers can attempt to communicate with the person to assess their well-being and determine if they need help.
Observe and Document:
Officers can note the individual's behavior, physical condition, and living environment. They can also document their observations with photos or videos, with consent or if something is in plain view.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Jun,25 10:07 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Things like this will always happen, even if there is more police than citizens.
I'm not OK with any crime, but I'm also not OK with people like you wanting to live in a police state, for the idea that it would stop all crime.

I don't have to worry about crime and I don't have to worry about the police.
Now why do I get to live like that, while you have to worry about both?





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By CAT52! at 18,Jun,25 21:19 other posts of CAT52! 
Jun 18, 16:43 system: You were blacklisted by rotax30

Hey, dumbass, who the f..k are you? I don't ever remember having any contact with you (and now I'm glad, your stench offends a skunk). How about growing a set and telling me face to face what your beef is with me. 🖕👿
By bella! at 18,Jun,25 21:58 other posts of bella! 
I’ve come to accept that it doesn’t matter whether I’ve had direct interaction with members that blacklist me or not, it’s how they perceive me……. Why aren’t you able to understand that all members aren’t looking at just body parts, they’re also looking at the “energy” that a member brings to the site. My guess is that rotax30 might be judging you on something that is not external. Is it possible that your political beliefs might not align with his or perhaps how you interact with others?

Just my opinion, the last paragraph is over the top and totally not necessary.
By CAT52! at 18,Jun,25 23:05 other posts of CAT52! 
Maybe to you, but, to me it was. I certainly didn't think he was talking about my bits and pieces. Of course he objects at something I said or did. My beef is that rotax30 is a chicken shit with no balls and is afraid to say so to my face.
Again, because I'm too stupid to take the hint, I'm sorry I posted on your thread. I should have posted it in my thread. I'm taking valuable space in this.......exiting...... thread.
By bella! at 21,Jun,25 06:09 other posts of bella! 
You just don’t seem to “get it” and I wonder if it’s because you want to prolong everything or if it’s because you lack common sense.

The guy blacklisted you and apparently you feel justified in calling him a “dumbass” and make reference to stench. I wonder whether you talk like a hood rat in real life or if that’s the persona you like to project in the Forum? Just my opinion and/or observation, I find that quite often you come across like an angry old lady that wants to start a fight.
By CAT52! at 23,Jun,25 16:50 other posts of CAT52! 
Bella!, getting blacklisted by some of the crud that exist on this site is like a badge of honor. I just don’t like getting sucker punched. I know on line I’m more aggressive than in real life, but, I’ve always fought my own battles and never held back if I was right in my thinking.
And, yes, I am an angry old/young lady but not for what happens here in Showitoff. I’m dealing with some heavy heartbreak in my personal life and it’s spilling into everything I get involved in although, an Internet forum has provided me with the ability to say exactly what I feel. Please note that that is only in the forums. In private chats with most other members I’m much more loving or understanding.
This time around I have not tried to amass a large number of friends even though many old friends still seek me out to chat. I’m just coasting day to day.
So, do I get it? More than you think.
By bella! at 23,Jun,25 19:33 other posts of bella! 
Then if it’s a “badge of honor”, bask in the recognition you received and avoid the name calling.
By CAT52! at 23,Jun,25 20:55 other posts of CAT52! 
Is that one of those things that go like this? "Do as I say and not as I do".
I'm sorry. I know you mean well, but, you know what they say about a leopard's spots. This old cougar is too far gone to change.








By bella! at 21,Jun,25 06:20 other posts of bella! 
WARNING; don’t watch this short video before eating, you may lose your appetite. Heck, you should probably wait 2 hours after eating as the video may cause you to toss your cookies!

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By bella! at 18,Jun,25 10:30 other posts of bella! 
Lying to a police officer is a crime?

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By Cody8789 at 18,Jun,25 21:44 other posts of Cody8789 
Yes, giving false information to a police officer is a crime. It’s better to not talk with them which also can result in being arrested and or losing your driving privileges.
By bella! at 18,Jun,25 22:03 other posts of bella! 
So if I was asked by a police officer what my age and weight were and I responded 21 and 119, that’s a crime? Gee, don’t they enjoy a good joke every now and then?




By phart at 16,Jun,25 22:39 other posts of phart 
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By dgraff at 17,Jun,25 11:14 other posts of dgraff 
i love baby trump he’s adorable
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By bella! at 11,Jun,25 01:50 other posts of bella! 
Apparently I was “cc’d” on a text to Gavin Newsom from someone who calls themself “proud dem”. The message was; “I support your brave stand against Trump. Don’t backdown”.
By phart at 11,Jun,25 10:52 other posts of phart 
should change their name to proud dumbass.
By dgraff at 11,Jun,25 15:10 other posts of dgraff 
If they keep up their bull shit we can call them dead democrats
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By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Jun,25 13:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Cop Yanks Autistic Kid Out of His Home, Onto the Ground
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Is crossing the street a crime?
By bella! at 02,Jun,25 18:31 other posts of bella! 
From my perspective , the entire episode was a “calamity of errors”. The young man was autistic and listening to music while wearing headphones. The cop had assumed the young man spotted his marked cruiser and had ignored his command(s). I’m not certain that I heard and/or processed what the cop’s initial concern was but the 3 day suspension seemed justified.

You frequently criticize our government and also out police so I’m curious as to how you or how do you think your country’s police force might have handled this situation?
By phart at 02,Jun,25 20:06 other posts of phart 
oh they wouldn't have paid him any attention.
it is ok for people to roam the streets over there i am sure. are they up to no good? who knows just let them roam until a crime is committed then wonder why it happened. alot of crime happens because people don't act proactively. see something strange,like a darkly dressed person in a hoodie? check to see what is going on. when a cop knocks on your door,answer,

first off, was this during cold weather? if not why was he wearing a hoodie??
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Jun,25 20:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This seems to happen a lot, but all you can say is that citizens should behave in a certain way, to not get bothered by the police. He's an idea; unless you break the law, the cops should leave you alone. It's called "freedom".

By CAT52! at 03,Jun,25 01:59 other posts of CAT52! 
Also, a hoodie is an article of clothing, nor a crime
By phart at 03,Jun,25 02:39 other posts of phart 
but if you take some time to check records, you will find that alot of criminals use hoodies to help prevent their identification and capture while committing crimes.
Reliable, specific statistics on the number of crimes committed by people wearing hoodies are difficult to find, as crime statistics are not typically categorized by the clothing worn by the suspect
.
However, some data exists regarding the reporting of clothing in suspect descriptions:

One source mentions that from 2010 to 2018, there were 16,180 reports where the suspect description included "wore hood/hoodie".
Following the 2012 shooting death of Trayvon Martin, a study revealed a significant increase in reports mentioning a "suspect wore hood/hoodie". In 2012, there were 1,243 such reports, followed by a 92% increase in 2013. In the first six months of 2019, there were 2,510 reported crimes mentioning a hooded suspect, an increase from 1,938 in the first six months of 2018. This data specifically refers to reports made to the LAPD and does not represent all crimes committed.

It is important to note that:

Wearing a hoodie is not a criminal offense.
Some sources suggest that the increased reporting of hooded suspects may be influenced by racial profiling and negative stereotypes associated with hoodies and criminal activity, stemming from media portrayals and events like the Trayvon Martin case.
Hoodies are often worn by street criminals for concealment purposes, making identification more challenging.

While the available data provides insight into the frequency of hoodies being mentioned in suspect descriptions, it's crucial to avoid equating the garment with criminal behavior itself.


did you read that second to last paragraph.
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By CAT52! at 05,Jun,25 16:45 other posts of CAT52! 
Well, reliable statistics show that a great majority of criminals have DICKS. This is not a criminal offense but, come on…..

By kebmo at 09,Jun,25 03:42 other posts of kebmo 
A lot of criminals wear socks too. Watch out for those bad boys!
By phart at 09,Jun,25 11:34 other posts of phart 
kembo, socks don't hide alot of identifying features like a hoodie does. a hoodie prevents security cameras from getting a good view of the crooks face,which can be used to id them later to press charges.





By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Jun,25 20:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There was no reason for the police to handle anything.
Our police only bothers citizens, when they have good reason to.
Why wouldn't you want your police to have the same attitude?
By bella! at 03,Jun,25 00:59 other posts of bella! 
Although the deputy has apologized and admits to using unnecessary force, there’s not enough details presented in the video to determine why the deputy needed to detain or question the young man.

My understanding of our system is that the police need PROBABLE CAUSE for stops or anything. I have a difficult time believing that the deputy wanted to question the young man just because he was collecting mail while wearing a hoodie with the hood up and if the collecting mail while wearing a hoodie was his only PROBABLE CAUSE then he shouldn’t have a 3 day suspension, he should be fired. Sorry, Ananas2xLekker, there are some pertinent details that have been omitted.
By CAT52! at 03,Jun,25 02:01 other posts of CAT52! 
To the best of my recollection, this is the first time you’ve sided with the wronged person and against an officer of the law.
By bella! at 04,Jun,25 03:24 other posts of bella! 
Perhaps, however I feel that I tend focus on facts.
By CAT52! at 05,Jun,25 16:48 other posts of CAT52! 
And I feel that you tend to focus only on those facts that support your extreme right wing WASP beliefs.



By Ananas2xLekker at 03,Jun,25 20:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The video explains it pretty clearly. His reason to want to stop the kid, was because
the teen crossed the road without looking. He ordered the kid to stop, and because he wants all his orders to be followed, even when his orders don't make sense, he went ballistic. I don't believe that any details were omitted.

Maybe you feel the need to believe this, to justify the cops behavior.
I don't understand why you would do that. If you don't protect your rights and freedom, they are gone before you notice, if you look away too long.

Thomas Jefferson: "Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty."

Benjamin Franklin: “Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”

Abraham Lincoln: “America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.”

Edward R. Murrow: “A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”

George Orwell: “The people will not revolt. They will not look up from their screens
long enough to notice what’s happening.”
By Cody8789 at 03,Jun,25 21:54 other posts of Cody8789 
I don’t know about the laws where you live, but here in most states, a residential neighborhood the pedestrian has the right away to cross any residential street and the cars, which the speed limit is 15 mph has to yield to anyone crossing the street. So the boy, who wasn’t looking, even though that wasn’t the smartest thing to do, has the right away. I didn’t have to look this up, that was one of the questions on the police exam which I passed with flying colors.--------------------------------------- added after 9 minutesOh and another thing, when the neighbors across the street were calling the cop a fucking asshole the cop told them to shut there mouths or he would arrest them, NOT, IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW to cuss at a policeman, and also when the cop told the kid he would get an arrest warrant if he didn’t come out,,, there is NO judge that would issue a warrant for an arrest of even a misdemeanor which this wasn’t even that.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Jun,25 08:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Most of our residential neighborhoods are like that. I grew up in one of those.
They are called "woonerf". They are designed for children to run around freely, without having to pay attention. It's up to the drivers to pay attention. Cars should drive at walking pace: the maximum speed on a residential area is 15 km/h, also for cyclists. Cars can only park in spaces with a P-sign or marking on the road.
When you drive out of the residential area, you must give way to all other traffic.

The street on the video looked very much like a street like that.
Talk to phart, who thinks it's a crime to just cross a street like that,
without looking to your left and right.

The blue traffic sign means "woonerf":
By phart at 04,Jun,25 17:50 other posts of phart 
you mean to tell me you folks purposely create a environment where kids are not required or not even at least encouraged to pay attention>? no wonder everyone in europe is so screwed up.
so a loose dog that could bite a kid,won't be noticed because no one is paying attention? a tourist is expected to know all these crazy ideas? wow, i am glad i am afraid to fly or float,i don't want to be near a place like that, that environment breeds people incapable of taking care of themselves.

how do you folks expect a kid to grow up capable of taking care of it's self when it doesn't even know to look both ways before crossing a street?
how do you expect them to grow up knowing how to respect authority? what is the purpose of authority if it is not respected?
By CAT52! at 05,Jun,25 16:51 other posts of CAT52! 
Really, Phart? With all the hopheads and alcoholics, with all the mass shooters, you are criticizing other countries who have a better life for its people? Ha!
By phart at 05,Jun,25 17:59 other posts of phart 
ok so we have folks that are stupid enough to get high on dope and not pay attention, they are teaching people not to pay attention even while sober. can you not see the issue>? those kids won't grow up to be anything worth 2 cents because they won't know how to fend for themselves.
By CAT52! at 06,Jun,25 11:49 other posts of CAT52! 
So what is your solution
By phart at 06,Jun,25 12:01 other posts of phart 
teach people what should be common sense.look both ways before crossing the street because you will die if a heavy car or truck hits you.and there is no reset on life like on a video game. just for starters.
teach them to say yes sir,no sir,yes mam no mam,
teach them to respect the law and those that enforce it.
teach them not to break the law in the first place and they won't have to interact with the enforcement.

just simple things early in life they can understand and build on.

and along those lines, if they want a video game,they mow the lawn for 5 bucks allowance a week for a while, to teach them that it takes work to get what you want.just as a example.

and when the kid fucks up , spank them a couple wacks, and tell there will be more the next time.
and reward good behavior, if your kid acts like it has some sense, make sure it knows you as a parent and society appreciates it.
By CAT52! at 06,Jun,25 18:54 other posts of CAT52! 
And you think only young people act like that? Have you ever driven in a congested big city?
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And kids shouldn't have to work to enjoy toys. What are you? The Grinch?
By phart at 06,Jun,25 21:20 other posts of phart 
good lord cat, didn't you ever do any chores around the house? it was to use you for slave labor it was to teach you how to work. did you never get any thing as a result of behaving yourself and doing what was ask of you? what were you,some sort of orphanage child that just sat in a white room?
By CAT52! at 08,Jun,25 14:55 other posts of CAT52! 
That's your take. My responsibility for certain chores was to help the family. School is were I learnt to be responsible about work
By dgraff at 08,Jun,25 22:48 other posts of dgraff 
What school did you go to the school of hard cocks
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 01:38 other posts of CAT52! 
If I did , are you jealous?
By dgraff at 09,Jun,25 03:19 other posts of dgraff 
yeah
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 04:42 other posts of CAT52! 
Tell me, Dgraff, help me understand, as a members of this site. The place where I made myself believe that, perhaps, I had taken it too far and backed down and decided to treat you like a friend, when did you think you could mock me and still think we were friends? Please save your twisted humor for someone that gives a damn. I don't have many friends here and that's okay. I rather have honest enemies than backstabbing friends.
By dgraff at 09,Jun,25 11:38 other posts of dgraff 
You need to remember none of this is real it’s all fantasy and at the end of the day you’re a stinking democrat and I’m at war with the Democrats and besides there’s nothing in my fantasies that have to do with a 70 year old woman
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 12:21 other posts of CAT52! 
Well, you've told me off. I didn't know friendship involved sexual fantasies. If it did, then a switch hitter like you would not have been my choice. Just forget about it. I'm not in a happy place.
By dgraff at 09,Jun,25 12:56 other posts of dgraff 
Calm down take your medicine have a deep breath and enjoy a strong cup of morning Joe
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 14:10 other posts of CAT52! 
My meds are simple vitamins and I still walk 4to 6 miles at least 4 days a week. I'm not a little old lady. I'm fitter than many women on this site and a lot of men. You are being condescending.


By phart at 09,Jun,25 13:18 other posts of phart 
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 14:11 other posts of CAT52! 
What's your problem, Phart.
By phart at 09,Jun,25 14:28 other posts of phart 
there is always somebody fussing on here, just quit, it accomplishes nothing
By dgraff at 10,Jun,25 03:19 other posts of dgraff 
Read back and you can see she cast the first stone i was just trying to joke around with her
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By phart at 09,Jun,25 14:28 other posts of phart 
the schools i went to , hardly taught anything about holding a job, mostly wanted to teach spanish and english and sports.
By dgraff at 10,Jun,25 03:16 other posts of dgraff 
Yep that’s about right








By dgraff at 08,Jun,25 21:30 other posts of dgraff 
I know I’m getting tired of people playing on their phones and walking out in front of me
I was always taught to look both ways twice before crossing the street
By phart at 08,Jun,25 21:57 other posts of phart 
yea, text neck is a real thing now. neck injurys from looking down all the time.







By phart at 04,Jun,25 01:30 other posts of phart 
this is addressed to Ananas2xLekker but i replied to the wrong post,
when a cop says stop, you stop.
your mother was supposed to have taught you to look both ways before crossing the street .this kid didn't. could it be he didn't want his face seen? plenty of reason for suspicion if there had been problems in the neighborhood recently.
around here folks park a car 1 street over and walk thru woods or whatever to steal from a home on the next street. we get videos all the time on the local neighborhood forum showing people walking in hoodies and checking cars in driveways to see if doors are locked and they open unlocked doors and take things and keep walking , in their hoodies ,faces hidden. Ananas2xLekker you just apparently live in a utopian environment where crime is just in story books.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Jun,25 07:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
True, but a cop cannot hold you responsible for not being ABLE to hear a demand. We had that discussion before.

There is no LAW that says you must "look both ways" before crossing the street.
The kid is dumb not to do it, but being dumb is not against the law.

Your cops have a hard time accepting new information, when they decided to do something. When he saw that the kid was wearing headphones, he could have stopped his arrest and turned it into a stern talk, but he continued his arrest,
because he is a stubborn motherfucker, who cannot admit to any hasty judgement.

I live in a place where citizens have rights and cops are not trained to be bullies.
We believe that cops should set the right example, not behave like criminals
with a badge.

By CAT52! at 08,Jun,25 14:59 other posts of CAT52! 
Using a hoodie to hide your face during the commission of a crime DOES NOT SAY, "IF YOU WEAR A HOODIE YOU ARE UP TO NO GOOD" Millions of American males have tattoos. Many American males from all races, commit crimes. It doesn't mean a tattoo wearer is up to no good. You, Phart, want to excuse the cop no matter what. He was in the wrong.


By bella! at 04,Jun,25 02:58 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, I don’t feel that there is enough detail provided. Regardless, are you hoping that I concede and say that police are under trained, trigger happy, morons? This is ONE POLICE OFFICER that has ADMITTED that he handled a situation incorrectly, so what is the point that you are trying to make?
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Jun,25 07:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OK, here's another one:
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Do you believe cop1, when he says to cop2 that the guy was hiding behind a pole?
We find him sitting on that bench, and the Lyft actually shows up.
That confirms the story of the kid. What confirms the story of cop1?

By the way, there are 24 US states where you have to show your ID to a cop,
if they ask. In the other states, you don’t have to show ID unless you're being arrested or detained with probable cause. What was the probable cause here?

In any case, his probable cause fell away. That means he had no reason to demand his ID in most states. But he still arrested the kid, for not complying to his demand,
that he had no business demanding.

I'm not saying that the cops are UNDERtrained, I'm saying they are trained to
do the wrong thing. They are not trained to 'protect and serve', they are trained
to impose fear on the citizens. Do you want to live in a police state, like phart?

You might not feel that (yet), because you're not a teen in a hoodie.
The water is getting hot, and you're the frog that doesn't feel it.
By Cody8789 at 04,Jun,25 10:49 other posts of Cody8789 
Most cops here in the u.s. are not bad cops, it only takes a few bad cops or under trained to give a bad name to to them, most cops 👮‍♂️ do there job correctly.
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Jun,25 10:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This is not a question of good cops and bad cops, this is systemic.
They are trained to be dictators. Not just a few, but ALL of them.

There is also a trend.
Decades ago they only harassed black men, who looked dangerous.
Then they started to harass black boys and women, who are just minding
their own business. Now they are also harassing white teens in hoodies,
who are just minding their own business. Do you stop wearing hoodies?
But, they are already harassing white girls too. How long before YOU
cannot walk or drive around, before you are harassed by cops constantly?

Understand that every interaction with a cop is a risk.
Picture this: They can ask you for your ID, for no reason.
You reach for your wallet in your inside pocket, a bit too quickly.
They think you are reaching for a gun. You now end up dead.
That's your future, if you don't stop the trend.

By CAT52! at 08,Jun,25 15:05 other posts of CAT52! 
Cody, you are right. Most cops are good, decent people who do a very hard job with much finesse. But, as you've admitted, there are some bad apples that give cops a bad name.
What I see is that all these righwingers give examples of this and that to excuse these bad actors, but, when the other people try to give supporting examples, then, we just don't see why it was ok for a cop to do what he did.
By bella! at 08,Jun,25 23:06 other posts of bella! 
There’s BAD teachers, there’s BAD doctors/nurses, there’s BAD cab and bus drivers, there’s BAD husbands and wives. Jeez Louise, there’s BAD in every walk of life and profession in EVERY darn country in the ENTIRE WORLD!
By CAT52! at 09,Jun,25 01:40 other posts of CAT52! 
And that's what I, and many other people, say. We don't put down everyone down, but, why do we have to argue with your kind over every time someone does something bad?




By bella! at 04,Jun,25 13:06 other posts of bella! 
These are stats from Google; as of 2024, there were 340.1 million people in the United States of America and when I Google’d how many “law enforcement officers”, we seem to employ .75 million to 1.2 million men and women. You apparently were able to find two individuals who did not perform their duties correctly. Look harder, you can probably find a third, a fourth and MORE!

Again, do you want me to concede that the men and women that protect and serve our towns, cities and states are a bunch of poorly trained morons? It ain’t gonna happen!

My suggestion to you is that every morning when you open your eyes and just before you get your feet out of bed, you thank GOD that you live where you live, in a beautiful, relatively crime free country, amongst decent law abiding countrymen and I will do the same!
By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Jun,25 14:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Those are just a few examples. Maybe you first need to see it happen to yourself,
or someone you love, before you believe it.
I'm not saying that I want that for you, I'm saying that you're calling this on yourself.

I don't believe in a god, and I don't thank some imaginary entity for something that we achieved with hard work. We have crime too, but we don't want to sacrifice our freedom to reduce it. If you need a police state to have law abiding countrymen, you have lost the fight for decency, not won it. You win the fight for decency,
by giving everyone a chance at a good life, with education, a social safety net,
and jobs that pay a living wage. Almost everyone chooses a worthwhile life
above being a criminal.

If you teach a child to behave, by only punishing bad behavior, it will only learn
not to do that, when you're around to see it. If instead you teach a child WHY
bad behavior is wrong, how it affects others, and what better choices to make,
it helps them develop empathy, a sense of responsibility, and internal moral values, not just obedience. Your cops are sign of a society that gave up on actual morality,
and only enforces obedience. Why would you support that?
By bella! at 04,Jun,25 15:23 other posts of bella! 
The Netherlands have a population of 18 million people versus the United States 340 million, rough math, my country is not quite 20 times more populated than your country.

My country opened the borders and allowed people into our country, established sanctuary cities. Until recently, your country paid refugees to leave.

I believe in GOD , I believe in human decency, I believe that there are good people and there are not so good people. There are intelligent people and then there are people that will never rise to the same level of intelligence. If the not so good people, less intelligent people are gainfully employed, you are probably going to find things that are a problem. KEEP LOOKING! There might be flaws in any training however I still feel our law enforcement officers do a darn good job at what they do!

By bella! at 04,Jun,25 15:46 other posts of bella! 
So now you are asserting that Americans don’t raise their children properly?! Well, it stands to reason;

• FUCKED UP ADULTS WILL NOT FUNCTION PROPERLY IN THE UNIVERSE
• FUCKED UP PEOPLE WILL BIRTH AND RAISE FUCKED UP OFFSPRING
• FUCKED UP OFFSPRING WILL GO INTO AN ALREADY FUCKED UP UNIVERSE AND FURTHER FUCK THINGS UP!
By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Jun,25 21:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
We have fucked up people too, but at a much lower percentage of the population.

How did that happen? Is it just in their nature?
Are Americans different from other people somehow?



By phart at 04,Jun,25 17:52 other posts of phart 
thanks bella, they do seem to breed wimps over there, so it is a good thing someone is looking over them from above.
By bella! at 05,Jun,25 04:54 other posts of bella! 
Sometimes I feel like my head is spinning out of control. Initially I thought Ananas2xLekker had decided that our law enforcement system and officers were flawed but apparently the problem is bigger than that! American people have piss poor parental skills. I should have known that the problem is deeper than just the job/career that someone chooses, it falls back on who we are, Americans.
By phart at 05,Jun,25 11:25 other posts of phart 
yea, but as i posted recently elsewhere, his little piece of paradise can't even maintain a functioning government so i guess he has such a birds eye view of a fucked up mess that he thinks he can act as a advisor to others.

Americans can't discipline their kids anymore.
how many school shootings did we have in 1949?
what was the teen suicide rate in 1959?
i could go on, but the simple fact is, the less discipline, the more issues

By Ananas2xLekker at 05,Jun,25 21:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You can't keep blaming the immigrants. We have them too. Lots of them.

Anyway, you're disappearing them all to El Salvador.
If they're all gone, you cannot blame them anymore.

Our right-wingers are smart enough to keep them.
They almost had the strictest immigration rules ever,
so Geert Wilders blew up the cabinet, with stupid excuses.
That way they will always have a scapegoat for their failures.

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Geert had 37 members in the House of Representatives, making $161,395/year, who never showed up for work. That shows how seriously they take their jobs.
By phart at 05,Jun,25 22:31 other posts of phart 
of course, liberals like having slaves around to wipe their ass's. i think i posted something about that yesterday. so of course your liberal government keeps them. and i doubt they live very well either
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Jun,25 08:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Have you ever heard about refugees?
People are fleeing from countries at war or in immense poverty.
They just walk in to our country asking for asylum.
If they get it, they have the same chances for good jobs, as we have.

The cheap labor is provided by working migrants from other EU countries.
At any time, there are between 200,000 to a million temporary migrant workers, mostly from Poland, working in our greenhouses for cheap. It's the right-wing parties, who cater to the big corporations, who created that system.
(They also mandated that we sold all our public utilities to private companies)
Geert Wilders didn't do or try ANYTHING to limit that migrant worker system.
It's only left-wing parties who want to do that, especially my Socialist Party.

The right-wingers intentionally created a immigration crisis, by closing many Asylum seekers' shelters and cutting expenses for immigration services, resulting in much longer processing times for immigrants. We are now flooded with asylum seekers from safe countries, who should be sent back in weeks or at best a few months, while the number of them coming in has NOT grown.
We had a temporary spike in Ukrainians, but a massive majority of the people supported their safe harbor. That has declined now, because the current right-wing administration made a big mess of that too.

Our biggest problem is housing. Why is that a problem? Because the right-wingers turned it into a "market", for the wealthy to make lots of money.
How do they make lots of money? By creating SCARCITY!!!
People are stupid, so they believe Geert, saying "it's the immigrants!".

They created a problem, to blame all other problems on, promised to fix
that artificial problem, people fall for it and vote them in as biggest party.
Then they do NOTHING about the real problems but focus on the artificial problem, and not even manage to get ANYTHING done. How easy would
it be to just reverse what they did, and take credit? Instead they made it worse.
Now he blew up the cabinet, blaming the other parties for his minister failing.
That minister had ALL the support she needed. The other parties had only one demand: OBEY THE FUCKING LAW!! When her policies were judged unlawful AND ineffective, she literally said: "I am policy!"

I hope people are not dumb enough to vote for that useless liar again.
By phart at 06,Jun,25 21:20 other posts of phart 
refugees, why are we obligated to take them in?
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Jun,25 12:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I was clearly talking about The Netherlands.
We are obligated by international law. Google "non-refoulement".
The US has gratified international laws and human rights treaties too.
That's why.
By phart at 08,Jun,25 13:02 other posts of phart 
some of that 1 world government shit we should never have gotten ourselves into.
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Jun,25 21:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Not "1 world government shit", but international treaties.
It's part of living together, instead of killing each other constantly.
It's part of what allowed the evolution of civilization from savagery.

It's just basic morality, the thing you accused me once of not having, because I'm an atheist. Well, the bible stories of Jesus and the good Samaritan are supposed to teach you COMPASSION. Are you a believer? By your own standards you must be an atheist, because you show no compassion at all. Not just not for illegals, but for not for anyone.
Do you understand what a world without compassion looks like?
That would be worse than what we had in our age of savagery.
Do you think you need to worry about "dangerous areas" then?
No one would be safe anywhere. That's the world that you are asking for.
By phart at 08,Jun,25 23:07 other posts of phart 
people take advantage of compassion.
i guess you are to blind to see it.
you read the people before you show it ,make sure it is not wasted. because most of the time, compassion cost money ,lots of it. no need to waste it on the ungrateful, the unwilling to try and etc
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Jun,25 13:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, that's possible. I know about that, first hand.
That's no reason to abandon compassion. I didn't.
And it's not what's happening in the US.
You were never generous to any immigrants.
Certainly not to undocumented immigrants.
What you have in the US is better than where they come from,
but don't think you gave them any compassion worth a damn.
They are working their asses off for jobs you are too lazy for.
Those jobs don't pay shit, because you're exploiting desperate people.
They have no reason to be grateful. You should be grateful to them.
Just like the slaves you once owned, they have built America for you.
















By phart at 05,Jun,25 17:36 other posts of phart 
the person failed to acknowledge the officer and stop. that is cause enough to further investigate.
By Cody8789 at 05,Jun,25 21:57 other posts of Cody8789 
Ananas, you fail to understand that this country is made up from immigrants, 95% of the people here are either immigrants or descendants of immigrants. The only people who are not immigrants are the American Indian. All you hear on the news is all negative… you don’t hear and see all the good. If you think this country is as bad as you hear on the news than you don’t know what goes on in this country. Don’t believe everything thing you hear on the news, it’s not as bad as you think or hear.
By phart at 05,Jun,25 22:39 other posts of phart 
most of the immigrants you speak of Cody,came over and passed by the Statue of liberty, both sides of my family did except for the Indians that were already here.
they did it legally.
the immigrants commiting crimes and such, snuck over here in a tater sack or behind a hubcap or in a hay bale,or under a seat cover. google those things, yep, people smuggle people covered in seat covers in vans. and the government stopped a truck load of hay last week full of illegals. puppys,fighting chickens and other small illegals get snuck in behind hubcaps.
By CAT52! at 06,Jun,25 18:52 other posts of CAT52! 
Only because there were no laws to break, Phart. You could literally walk in without any protest by the government.

the concept of "illegal immigration" as we understand it today didn't exist during the late 18th and early 19th centuries in the United States. There were very few, if any, laws in place to restrict immigration until much later in the 19th century.
Here's why:
No Federal Immigration Laws:
The U.S. didn't have a federal system of immigration laws until the late 19th century. This meant there were no laws to break to immigrate.
By phart at 09,Jun,25 17:07 other posts of phart 
i got to thinking about this and duh, for many years there may not have been immigration laws. but people must have saw a issue,and dealt with it by imposing laws. since the laws are on the books, enforce them

if someone came here with a visa and it expired,they were supposed to leave. that is what they agreed to when they applied for the visa.



By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Jun,25 09:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Of course I understand that. Do you think phart does?
Then what is the argument for wanting to "deport" the "illegals"?
Were your ancestors LEGAL immigrants? Didn't they just come in, on a boat?

By the way, Trump is letting ICE pick up LEGAL immigrants too. lots of them.
No warrant, no due process, they pick up people who have been living and working in your country, who were going through the process to become a US citizen, or who were even born in your country. Illegally captured, detained and shipped over to one of the worst dictatorships in South America, to live out their lives in a horrible prison.

Even -IF- they were illegal, is that a crime of that level? By your own law, unauthorized presence is a Civil offense, not a crime. Illegal entry (crossing the border without inspection) is a misdemeanor (first offense). Re-entry after removal (deportation)
is a Felony (under 8 U.S.C. § 1326). Penalties: Basic re-entry: up to 2 years.
Prior criminal convictions: up to 10 or 20 years, depending on the crime.
Most of the ICE victims are only guilty of "unauthorized presence": NO CRIME!
Many of them were even staying by "authorized presence".
The Trump regime is fabricating allegations against them, on the basis of tattoos.

That's not just my "media bias" talking, it is supported by your own courts.
Just because your media has been corrupted, doesn't mean it's corrupt everywhere.
We still have the honest journalists that you once had.
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Trump is also blocking people coming on student visas. Those are your high skilled workers of the future. If you're ALL immigrants, what's the argument there?

I don't think that your country is bad IN GENERAL.
I have very specific grievances with what's happening in the US.
If that only affected you, that's your business, but it doesn't.
I hope you understand that Trump has a damaging effect to all of the world.
If he actually did that to help Americans, I would understand, but it doesn't.
He's threatening democratic countries, while appeasing (y)our enemies.
His destruction of democracy creates another "Russia". We don't need that.
His tariffs are doing the exact opposite of his stated goal, while creating chaos.
He's giving even more power and wealth to the wealthy, while screwing everyone else.
That also has global impact: your wealthy assholes take over our shit too.

Phart, this message is for Cody. Let him think about this for himself.
By Cody8789 at 06,Jun,25 12:02 other posts of Cody8789 
I didn’t vote for trump, let’s get that up front, I’m not defending what he does or am I saying it’s right. I’m not googling my answers either, I say what I believe in. But I can understand why he’s doing what he’s doing. How would you feel if three hundred million Americans came over to your country and got free medical. How would you feel if your country gave us free food money and food stamps, how would you feel if your country gave us free housing. Where do you think that money comes from, we, the American citizens that work hard for our money have to pay the cost, out taxes have increased 300%. I walk in a emergency room to get help and I’m paying a thousand dollars to start just for being seen, not including other costs that they will add while people who do not pay taxes get and are not citizens get free medical. If we don’t give them free medical they get sick and spread diseases to the rest of us. My family came over on the boat from Italy in 1911 and went through legally. My brother whose wife came from Thailand ten years ago took three years of paperwork and almost ten thousand dollars to get here and become an American citizen, they did it the right way, not crossing the borders illegally or getting a work visa to work here for a year and disappear and hide in the u.s for years until found and kicked out for not going through the process the right way. Some immigrants have been here, say, for twenty years and have been here illegally, now we have a president who wants to clean up this country by getting theses illegal people that been hiding and beating the system. There not bad people but they are sucking this country dry. What about the million people that enter this country that go through the process of becoming a citizen the right way every year, I’m for that. There will always be someone getting hurt, you can’t do anything about that. It’s time to get this country back and I’m not for how it’s being done by the trump administration but I understand why he’s doing what he’s doing. And I’m not going to get into the many other things trump is doing that I don’t like but I’m willing to give him a chance to try to resolve the problems we have in this country right now. I live in a very big city where growing up was great,,, now I see the crime has tripled, I can’t go into town where there is gangs with guns wanting to shoot me for my money and most of those gangs are Cubans, Haitians, South Americas, and Mexicans taking over the streets selling drugs and doing crime because they don’t want to work for a living. I can go on. You ever seen the movie Scarface with Al Pacino, that’s what it’s like to live here in the cities, oh and by the way Scarface was filmed mostly in ft,lauderdale and in Miami where I live. That’s what it’s like to live here now dodging bullets.
By phart at 06,Jun,25 17:41 other posts of phart 
but anannas will tell you that you should just walk up to the gunman shooting and explain why what he is doing is wrong and that he can go the social services office and get a free cell phone and some food stamps and it would fix the violence.
By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Jun,25 17:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You can see what I told him below.

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@ Phart@ Oh, Phart, how did life go so wrong with you? My condolences.


By Ananas2xLekker at 06,Jun,25 17:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
First off; Googling is good. If you are not completely sure about the facts, you're being much more responsible if you check the facts, than I you just express your feelings. If you don't check facts, what are your feelings based on?

You're giving me examples of a fantasy. There are not 16 times more people coming to your country that live in it. They are also not getting free medical. People who are truly illegal get nothing. Maybe if they drop from a roof that they are fixing, you might save their lives, but other than that they get nothing. Do you have any numbers on how much that costs?

"Don’t believe everything thing you hear on the news, it’s not as bad as you think or hear."

Most undocumented immigrants DO pay taxes. Just ask ChatGPT and check its sources.
According to a 2024 report by the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy (ITEP), undocumented immigrants paid approximately $96.7 billion in taxes in 2022:
- Federal Taxes: $59.4 billion, including income and payroll taxes.
- State and Local Taxes: $37.3 billion, encompassing sales, excise, property, and income taxes.
On average, this amounts to about $8,889 per undocumented immigrant.
They are however almost never eligible for social security.
They have not been sucking you dry, it's the other way around.

As I clearly stated, many immigrants that Trump is disappearing ARE NOT ILLEGAL. I would have no problem with it, if he actually deported illegal people,
just out of the country, NOT to a prison in El Salvador.

Just like phart a.o., you keep thinking that I am OK with illegal immigration. I'M NOT!
I'm not OK with your methods, because they are brutal and criminal.
They are still human beings. Most of them have never hurt anyone. I just told you that most of them have not committed a crime or at best a misdemeanor by being in your country. They are looking for a better life and many are working harder than you probably ever have. Still, you keep defending how they are ALL treated, by describing them ALL as the worst tiny minority.

If they are all lazy criminals, then why are your harvests of fruit and vegetables rotting on the fields, when they fled for ICE?

Do you have actual crime statistics to support what you're saying.

To get a biased answer, supporting rising crime, I asked ChatGPT:
"How much did crime go up in the US in the last 3 decades?"
The answer was long, but I'll give you the first sentence:
"Over the past three decades, crime rates in the United States have generally declined, despite some fluctuations during specific periods."

So how come that statistics aren't supporting your feelings?

I even asked about Miami:
"What is the trend of crime rates in Miami, Florida, US?"
The beginning of the answer: "Crime rates in Miami, Florida, have experienced notable fluctuations over the past few years, with recent data indicating a downward trend in both violent and property crimes."

Why don't you try ChatGPT or Grok or any other AI with the question:
"How much of the crime in Miami, Florida is committed by illegal or undocumented immigrants?"
By phart at 06,Jun,25 18:31 other posts of phart 
so are you calling Cody a liar? hell he is telling how life is in the very city he lives in, just as you do with the picture of a snow globe neighborhood with kids running around like Guineas in the rain, not even looking where they are going like zombies.
what are his feelings based on? i am willing to bet the same damn thing mine are, from what he sees and hears and feels with his own eyes and ears.
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Jun,25 12:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm sure he believes it, but he IS repeating lies.

He's telling me how he feels. His feelings are not based on verifiable facts.

He told me: "Don’t believe everything thing you hear on the news, it’s not as bad as you think or hear." about the police. He didn't show me verifiable facts, he just told me his feelings. Now he tells me feelings again, and I present him verifiable facts, in return. If you want to argue against those verifiable facts, present me verifiable facts, or at least reliable data that contradicts them. You don't do that, you are just telling me that you know better. You don't !
You cannot SEE how much tax-dollars are going to illegals and how much taxes they pay. You cannot SEE the difference between an illegal and a x-ed generation poor brown American. You are just telling me prejudices, based on lies.

His and your feelings are based on 24/7 fear-mongering, from right-wing 'news'.
Their reporting is proven false over and over, but you chose to believe it anyway.

As far as your own eyes and ears are concerned, they see and hear LIES.
You hardly leave your home. How do you see anything happening in real life?

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If our neighborhoods look like a "snow globe neighborhood" to you, then there is something wrong with your neighborhoods. Most of our neighborhoods look like that. There are of course poorer areas, but even in the poorest ones, I can still walk around at only slightly elevated risk of walking into someone who wants to rob me or mug me. If your neighborhoods are a death trap, that's not because of immigrants, that's because of your own ideas, that people don't deserve anything. Your GDP is much higher than ours, but you can't have nice neighborhoods?
How about INVESTING in people, to better everyone? YOU DON'T WANT TO !!
It has nothing to do with immigrants, they are just the scapegoat you are using.

You have definitely more dangerous neighborhoods than we have. But you've had them for a very long time. That's by choice. It's still not true that crime has risen, it's still not true that illegals are doing that, it's still not true that illegals are taking your taxes. It's ALL your own politics.

I didn't say that our kids ARE "running around like Guineas in the rain", I said
that our neighborhoods are DESIGNED for kids to be ABLE to do that.
Why do you feel the need to twist everything?
By phart at 08,Jun,25 13:00 other posts of phart 
safe and not being taught to look out for danger go together, you can't be safe if you are not taught to look for danger.
as for cody speaking feelings, i have a strong notion you are wrong there. i am not in my house 24-7, not by a long shot, i just avoid dangerous areas and situations i feel uncomfortable in.

investments have been made in people, people have been given second,third and forth chances by our courts, by charitys,and etc. that 1 bastard that was in my high school class , has been in jail over 20 times, rehab over 40 times and has restraining orders from several churches because he tried to rob the preachers. he held a 44 magnum to his mothers head for her wedding ring,hocked it for dope money. he has been given so many chances, and blew every fucking 1 of them. i saw it, i saw what he did to a freinds life starting her on dope and so on. feelings my ass, i see it,i hear it,i feel it. you are the 1's that can't see anything past your snow globe. maybe it needs to be shaken a bit to remind you that this is not paradise
By Ananas2xLekker at 08,Jun,25 13:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh, here's an idea, make the maximum speed in neighborhoods 100 mph
and put big saws on all the cars, so the kids learn how to be safe.

We do teach kids how to look out for danger. Parents still have time to do that
in my country, because they don't both have to work multiple jobs to feed them.

How do you know how to avoid "dangerous areas"?
What do those "dangerous areas" look like?

Why are you worried about a 44 magnum? Guns don't kill people, right?

You are saying that Americans are just worse than Dutch people, are you?
Why else would it work out better in my country?

If it's "the illegals", how come we don't have your problem?
We don't have a border wall, we don't have border protection, there are lots
of poor countries all around us. We have a war on our continent, you don't. Explain why I don't have to avoid "dangerous areas".
By phart at 08,Jun,25 23:10 other posts of phart 
no teach the kids to stay out of the road where cars travel and teach car operators to stay the hell off the sidewalk.
everything has it's place, sidewalk and playgrounds for kids, parking lots and roads and streets for cars, buses, trucks, etc.

i am not worried about the gun, i explained what a fellow i know did with 1. i aint defenseless, I will put it that way and leave it.
i could be accused of fuddism but i know what works best for my situation.

as for dangerous places i stay away from, there are sections of town with a majority population of people in almost everytown that white people avoid.plain and simple. violence,drug related shootings and what not happen all the time.most of the time in the streets and parking lots of so called affordable housing.i stay away from those places. i stay away from shopping malls past 2pm, for similar reasons.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Jun,25 14:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Why? Every single developed country has created neighborhoods where cars should drive slowly and kids can play freely. That's because parents like their kids to be safe, so they buy houses in neighborhoods like that.
Where do you come in telling them you shouldn't build neighborhoods like that anymore?

There are stupid and bad people everywhere. In your country, they can easily get a gun, in my country they can't. That's how you want it. Why complain about it to me?

If you create a system where the only affordable houses are horrible
and close together, you can ask for crime and drugs problems.
What's your solution? Don't built any houses under $2000/month?
What do you think all the homeless will do to your society?

My solution is to build affordable housing EVERYWHERE and not all in the same area. Then people don't spend all their time working, to pay for their home, and they can be good parents for their kids.







By CAT52! at 08,Jun,25 23:35 other posts of CAT52! 
Cody8789, in your post that starts with this
"I didn’t vote for trump, let’s get that up front, I’m not defending what he does or am I saying it’s right. I’m not googling my answers either, I say what I believe in."
Cody, While some news sources have discussed potential significant tax increases if certain legislation expires, it's important to understand the context:
IRS Penalties: One source points out a significant surge in IRS penalties on American taxpayers, nearing 300% in the past year. This refers to penalties, not necessarily an increase in overall tax rates.
Cody, you pay thousands for medical treatment? That's funny because the most you pay with health insurance for most procedures is in the hundreds. And I know. I worked at Baptist Health Hospital for 20 yrs in accounts receivable.
The biggest problem is corporate greed of farmas and doctors.
In 1911 you could literally walk into the US and no one would have said a thing. Immigration laws were almost non existent.
These illegals are not beating the system. They found a way to co-exist. They try to work and they certainly DO pay some taxes. You swallowed the MAGA and right-wing dogma that illegals are the reason for ALL that ails this country.
How about the fact that most Americans are functionally illiterate? How about the fact that this country is more concerned with sexual preference or what bathroom to use while kids are STARVING in the richest country in the world?
What he's doing IS the problem. The purpose may be right but the method is all wrong. No one wants illegals, but there's a LEGAL way to get them out. He's destroying the meaning of the Constitution and no one is doing anything about it.
Cody, that's mostly untrue. I live in South Florida just like you. I have no problems, nor do I encounter, all these "gangs".
I go out every day to see friends, family and do shopping. I go out to dinner and entertainment. I don't have to worry about some gang trashing my city. Yes, there are some iffy areas that I wouldn't go into at night but there's no place I can't travel through in the daytime.
And this is the same as any other major metropolitan area, not just in the US but all over the world. And Broward county is no different. If you are so scared to go out then I suggest you move to a little town in the middle of the panhandle. You know what type. The type where crime is the farmer doing something naughty with the sheep.
Scarface is a MOVIE. You know as well as I do that's not the way it is and before you say you live in Broward and I live in Miami Dade, let me remind you that South Florida is a continuous "city" from Homestead to West Palm Beach.
In short, Cody, you are just full of BS.
Google, for some reason, has a bad reputation with you rightees, but, whether you like it or not, they are just a search engine and what comes up is just facts.
I don't carry every fact in my head and I am secure enough to accept that I do need somewhere to find facts. You should try it.
No offense meant Cody. You just are wrong.



By CAT52! at 08,Jun,25 15:07 other posts of CAT52! 
Cody, even the American Indian migrated from Asia when there was a solid strip of land connecting Asia with North America







By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Jun,25 13:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"That's not freedom" | Larry Flynt VS America
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"We live in a free country!"
Do you? Still?


By phart at 10,Jun,25 13:14 other posts of phart 
europeans need to clean up their own back yard before talking junk about America.

turns out they have school shootings to.
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By bella! at 11,Jun,25 00:47 other posts of bella! 
phart, it’s a sad day when there are reports of senseless mass shootings anywhere in the entire world. I THOUGHT that there was tighter gun control in Europe, and I am correct, however it seems that gun control is more relaxed in Austria and look at what happened.
By phart at 11,Jun,25 01:48 other posts of phart 
i can't remember which country it is over there but there is 1 that gun training is mandatory ,which should be everywhere. i had hunter safety training in the 8th grade and still have the paperwork and card that you were supposed to carry showing you have passed the course. respect for firearms used to be taught in schools,homes , seems not anymore.
kids grow up playing games where they shoot and shoot and shoot and then push reset and shoot some more. put a real gun in their hands and 1 shot changes the world for numerous people.




By phart at 10,Jun,25 14:19 other posts of phart 
at least 12 people have some brains and courage in dutchland.
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By phart at 10,Jun,25 14:13 other posts of phart 
for those folks that are whining about Trump sending troops in to control the riots in la, just remember,the governor did worse during covid.
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By bella! at 10,Jun,25 11:44 other posts of bella! 
This rather short video is titled WEIRD PRESIDENTS AND FIRST LADIES

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By phart at 08,Jun,25 23:05 other posts of phart 
whats greta trying to do now? get herself kidnapped and buttfucked by hamas?
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only a idiot would go into that war zone like that.
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you aint welcome greta, get the fuck out a here!


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By phart at 07,Jun,25 14:40 other posts of phart 
i am kinda on the fence about this.
it is kinda like sueing Jeff dunham for something walter said.
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even at 14, the kid should have known the computer character was not real.the fact he had to take any matter into his own hands should have been a clue.
but kids can be so mean,and bully each other to no end. it also easy for me to understand how the kid got lost in the moment. up until he had to actually act on it himself to take his own life. that should have been a red light to indicate ,hey its not real.


By bella! at 02,Jun,25 19:17 other posts of bella! 
And in San Antonio, TX, Ashley Pardo, a 33 year old mother, supplies her 13 year old son with munitions so he can shoot up the school!

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By t-rex at 02,Jun,25 19:45 other posts of t-rex 
I just don’t understand society anymore
By bella! at 03,Jun,25 00:39 other posts of bella! 
Me either!

The mother lost her job for her part in what could have possibly been another mass shooting. Being fired from job seems reasonable. What doesn’t seem reasonable was that she was under house arrest and is allowed to leave to seek employment. In my opinion, IF she had no knowledge of what her child was up to, allow her some freedom and latitude HOWEVER she supplied her son with munitions to carry out this messed up plan!

If you recall, there was something in Michigan where the parents purchased their son an assault weapon. The son took the weapon to school and killed students and teachers, these parents were on the lam, were caught and jailed. They’re still going through our court system. Parents need to be held accountable for the things their children do.
By t-rex at 03,Jun,25 00:53 other posts of t-rex 
Yes I recall the case, society is fickle. Who in the hell would buy their kid an assault rifle ? Who supplies ammunition to their kid ? I taught my kids how to shoot and how to respect weapons at an early age, yet the weapons were still locked and secured away. I realize it’s a lot crazier world than when we were young, but does that make all this ok ? People need to be held responsible .
By phart at 04,Jun,25 01:43 other posts of phart 
well who buys their kid a computer,a hammer,a car,a dirt bike, or whatever?
because apparently they feel their kid is mature enough to handle it.
a ar-15, well, to me that is a bit much for a 13 year old. not giving him a gun persay but if you aren't careful the second and third shot is not going where you want it to because the recoil lifts the gun barrel up, for a kid that may be to much power.

as for the brains not to kill with it, if the kid has the brain to think kill, he has the brain to be punished for the idea. the mother, should be locked up with him.
had no business giving him ammo knowing what he had in mind.
but even the best parents can't stop some kids from getting and doing what they want to. mostly because ass whoopin's have been took off the list of ways to discipline a brat.
when a 13 year old says, " mommy can i take my big gun to school and shoot those bullies the Princeable wont expel"? she should have said no and called the cops and had his ass hauled off to jail.
I have said this many times in the past in many conversations both in person and online, school staff need to take bullying seriously and deal with it. silent kids that are bullied are ticking time bombs. regardless of the parenting skills.
By t-rex at 04,Jun,25 02:05 other posts of t-rex 
I understand there is always a risk for someone to lash out in any way. It just seems it’s so common place for someone young or old, to start shooting people and things up. It is especially alarming to me that we need metal detectors in all schools. Yet I understand the need, for all purposes, to keep things safe. So where does it end ? Grocery stores, retail stores , shopping malls, what if it’s an open carry state, or maybe the person has a concealed carry permit, I hate to think what it will be like for my grandchildren, yet I reckon my grandparents might have said the same thing, they are long gone, so I can’t ask them . So I’m not sure as to the ultimate answer, truly there has to be harsher punishment into many ways.

By bella! at 04,Jun,25 03:15 other posts of bella! 
When I read the article I understood it to say that she was aware of her 13 year old intentions to shoot up the elementary school. I don’t understand gun language however what she supplied him with seems a bit excessive; “ she'd bought her 13-year-old son tactical gear, ammunition and magazines, according to arrest documents.” What is “tactical gear” and because I like police programs, I think that I understand “magazines” to be a type of cartridge that holds multiple bullets. OR in our confusing language, a magazine might just be a publication of some sort that shows her little darlin’ all the goodies that he could ask Santa to bring at Christmas time.

An aside, she’s a scary looking momma if you ask me!







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By Ananas2xLekker at 30,May,25 10:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Just a funny story about Trump, from Charlie Sheen.
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By bella! at 01,Jun,25 01:38 other posts of bella! 
That’s crazy!
By Ananas2xLekker at 01,Jun,25 12:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's fully within my expectation of Trump.
He has been a conman his whole life. What do you expect?
By Brian_Mansion at 02,Jun,25 05:40 other posts of Brian_Mansion 
Still dumb as stump I see...
By Ananas2xLekker at 02,Jun,25 09:37 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Who?






By bella! at 29,May,25 15:03 other posts of bella! 
I listened to a YouTube documentary that focused upon CHILDREN who commit murder. At 14 years of age, Josh Phillips murdered his 8 year old neighbor and was sentenced to life in prison WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF PAROLE. Do you think that that is a reasonable sentence for a child?
By CAT52! at 29,May,25 15:21 other posts of CAT52! 
No
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 11:38 other posts of dgraff 
What would you as a democrat want to do to punish him slap his fingers with a ruler
Keep in mind the kid at that age is a monster and he’s never going to get any better i would have gave him the death sentence
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 12:05 other posts of CAT52! 
Why shouldn't he get sentence the same as other murderers? Many adult kill.ers are sentence from 20 yrs to life, but, with a chance to be paroled. The main reason for incarceration is to protect the public and the second is punishment, but, the third is rehabilitation. No one can predict the future. This kid could very well be a monster the rest of his life, but, what if he isn't? A parole is given only if the board truly believes the prisoner can return to society in a safe and lawful way. Should he be in prison? Yes! But he shouldn't have ALL of his future taken away. That's a death centence without the execution.
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Do you remember the Manson murders in LA? Sharon Tate and others were slaughtered during two murder sprees. Here's a report about some of the murderers.
The trial, which combined the Tate and LaBianca murders, began in June 1970, with Kasabian, who had been granted immunity, as the main prosecution witness. Despite frequent disruptions, Manson, Atkins, Van Houten, and Krenwinkel were found guilty in January 1971. Watson was tried and convicted later that year. All received the death penalty, but the sentences were commuted to life in prison after California abolished capital punishment in 1972. Although they became eligible for parole, their requests were repeatedly denied. However, in 2023 Van Houten, who was 73 years old, was granted parole and released from prison. The story of the Tate and LaBianca murders was recounted in the book Helter Skelter: The True Story of the Manson Murders (1974), cowritten by Vincent Bugliosi, who served as prosecutor at the trial.

Now, if the MONSTERS that did this had the possibility of parole, why deny it to a 14 yr old who probably did not have the maturity to comprehend the enormity of taking a life?
So, this liberal would like to ask you, a conservative person, why would you give two different sentences for the same crime?
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 13:44 other posts of dgraff 
The mansion murders was 50 years ago i remember them well Charlie never actually killed anyone he had other people do it for him if i remember correctly he was trying to start a race war but like i said that was 50 years ago how many killers actually straitened out and were paroled cant be many once you kill it becomes so much easier to kill again
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 17:05 other posts of CAT52! 
Manson just ordered the killings. You deflected. Answer the question.
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 17:24 other posts of dgraff 
Oh sorry the death sentence is the only way to stop monsters from killing again
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 18:21 other posts of CAT52! 
Again, you deflected. Nevermind. I didn't expect a real or truthful answer from you.
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 18:58 other posts of dgraff 
What was the question
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 21:38 other posts of CAT52! 
The question was"Who is this mountain mechanic that dresses in women's sun dresses?"









By AngelofDeath at 02,Jun,25 00:48 other posts of AngelofDeath 
It is if the kids a fucking psycho.
By phart at 02,Jun,25 02:41 other posts of phart 
if a kid is already warped enough to murder another person before they really reach puberty, it may very well be a good idea to never let them out. if they get educated, no telling the damage they could do.




By dgraff at 31,May,25 13:55 other posts of dgraff 
Donald trumps hair looked very nice this morning
And Elon musk was dressed very sharp
By CAT52! at 31,May,25 15:15 other posts of CAT52! 
Showing respect for the gallows
By phart at 31,May,25 15:17 other posts of phart 
naw, showing respect for the office and the country. something harris had no idea how to do. never wore a dress like a lady 1 time that i saw.
By CAT52! at 31,May,25 15:32 other posts of CAT52! 
Let me get this straight. You are saying that millions of professional women are not ladies because they wear power house pant suits?
Phart, get out of the 1950's. At the very least, go forth into the 1980's.
By phart at 31,May,25 16:12 other posts of phart 
power house? ha, more like trying to be a man to me. Did Queen Elizibeth wear pants once she got out of the miliary motor pool as a mechanic after the war?
of course women wear pants. but damn, you are acting like it is ok for a woman to act like Fetterman and dress down like trash and fill a important job.
not a good example
By dgraff at 31,May,25 17:52 other posts of dgraff 
She wears pants to hold her anal vibe in place that’s why she was always laughing and cackling about everything





By bella! at 31,May,25 18:47 other posts of bella! 
Donald Trump’s hair looked nice? Elon Musk was sharply dressed? And dgraff is such a silly man!
By phart at 31,May,25 19:41 other posts of phart 
elon is never dressed as a man in his position should be. Trump usually dresses well. wind plays hell with the stray tabby cat on his head sometimes though.
By bella! at 01,Jun,25 01:35 other posts of bella! 
I agree, Elon Musk does NOT dress as if he is the wealthiest man in the world!


By dgraff at 31,May,25 20:14 other posts of dgraff 
that statement got a rise out of cat
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 00:39 other posts of CAT52! 
Is that all you want to do? Get a rise out of me? Why?
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 11:31 other posts of dgraff 
Because it’s fun
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 11:55 other posts of CAT52! 
🤣🤣😈 well, that's honest anyway.
By dgraff at 01,Jun,25 11:57 other posts of dgraff 
Don’t worry my fun is harmless
By CAT52! at 01,Jun,25 13:29 other posts of CAT52! 
I've been posting on this site since 2014, one way or the other. I've learned that what I thought was harmless posting by me could be extremely poisonous to other members. I'm sorry for that. I won't change. I can't, but, I can say, "your posts are seldom harmless". At most they are disapproval hidden in jests. And I know you can't change either.









By bella! at 29,May,25 19:42 other posts of bella! 
Charlie Kirk is wise.

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By CAT52! at 29,May,25 20:01 other posts of CAT52! 
As a potato chip

By Ananas2xLekker at 30,May,25 10:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He makes millions in the propaganda outlets for the Republicans.
He could work for CNN, to be the propaganda outlet for the Democrats,
but he doesn't have enough talent. It requires more skill to lie to liberals.
They all serve the billionaires who own them, of course.



By #683639 at 18,May,25 23:17
Poor Joe Biden
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By bella! at 18,May,25 23:56 other posts of bella! 
It is rather sad that former President Biden was diagnosed with cancer and an aggressive form of cancer at that. Heck, he seemed to be dealing with other health concerns prior to leaving office and the cancer revelation is just another kick in the pants matter that he will need to address .
By Cody8789 at 19,May,25 00:51 other posts of Cody8789 
That’s how my father passed away, he had prostate cancer and it metastasized to his bones. I feel for anyone going through that, Joe had to have complications prior to this diagnosis but I’m sure he didn’t tell the public.
By phart at 19,May,25 01:22 other posts of phart 
yea ,this is not a good thing for anyone to go thru. and honestly, cancer travels thru our lymphatic system and it could actually have made it to the brain, causing issues.
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,May,25 08:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I heard this morning. That sucks, Joe doesn't deserve to go like this.
You never know where the cancer cells end up, but it's pure speculation to blame
his mental decline on it. Sure, he was declining, but he's also old. My father is only
7 months younger and is mentally declining at about the same rate.
By phart at 19,May,25 14:19 other posts of phart 
well my grandmothers breast cancer spread to her brain , my grandfathers colon cancer spread to his brain. why,how? don't know why, but the lymphatic system carry's those cells all over the body. i had a boss that was extremely moody, 1 day good as gold, next day,pure asshole.
6 months after he retired, he was diagnosed with a large brain tumor and died a month or 2 later. dr's said the tumor had been growing a long time.
tumors apply pressure to the brain that can negatively affect it's function by no fault of the victim.
as i said, i would not wish cancer on anyone. i despise biden as a person but don't wish anything on him but his dog to bite his ankles as he sits in his rocking chair.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,May,25 15:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Well, I don't think Joe Biden gets the same crap healthcare most of you do,
and they 100% likely did a full body MRI. He can afford it.
So either they saw nothing or they aren't saying anything.
Why would they talk about the prostate cancer and not about a brain tumor?
There is no logical reason for that, because he's not in politics anymore.

By CAT52! at 27,May,25 15:42 other posts of CAT52! 
My best childhood friend had huge lump removed from right breast and lymph nodes. The big C is back in less than a year and it looks like it’s in her brain. We, the Ladies of the Fifties (8 long time friends), are holding a watch. We don’t know when. Just that the end is coming fast.


By phart at 19,May,25 14:35 other posts of phart 
valid questions being raised. for a person like myself that only goes to the dr when over the counter stuff stoppings giving relief, it is easy to understand how a prostate issue would slip thru the cracks a few years. but biden was the friggen president of the US. how could this have went unnoticed? and to think, he was running for a second term>!!
did he decide to drop out over this and just let the dems take the blame?

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By Ananas2xLekker at 20,May,25 15:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
President obviously get regular checkups, but do they get the finger in ass check every time? They should, because they're all old men, but maybe they think it's humiliating and skip it. I don't think that even presidents get full body MRIs several times per year, so things like that can be missed, when there are no symptoms, or the patients doesn't communicate any symptoms. They are still people, with lots of flaws. Some are even the most flawed human beings on the planet: Trump.

It's possible that he got the bad news and that made him decide to quit. However, there was also a massive pressure campaign going on to make him stop. It was very obvious that he wasn't going to win. Kamala didn't win either, but I think Biden would have lost much worse. At least the losses in congress are limited and some wins have made the difference even smaller. That's why Republicans need to CHEAT
to get their horrible plans through.
By phart at 20,May,25 16:57 other posts of phart 
i am currently dealing with medical issues that include a prostate issue. i did not get the "space probe" yesterday ,they took blood to do test.
they also checked my blood pressure to be 197 over 112 and she put me on medicine for it. said it was probably why i wasn't feeling well and am having chest pain during activity and fatigue.

so if i can pay a 30 dollar copay and get all these test done to check for prostate issues and what not, the president should be getting even better care for free.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 16:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh, that not good man, that's way too high of a blood pressure.
Take the medication, sure, but please do more than that.
Drink more water, cut out the saturated fats and use lots of olive oil.
In your case, I would even suggest a glass of red whine per day.
And I very much hope that I'm not elevating your blood pressure.
I like sparring with you, but I don't want to see you hurt from it.

Of course president do get great healthcare, but that doesn't mean that they cannot get sick and die. It's not magic, it's science. When the body stops working well, that's always hard to fix. Prevention is better than relying on medicine for cures,
but presidents are not living the most healthy lives. They are also horrible patients, because they never listen to advice to take it easy, stop traveling, have your 8 hours of sleep. As soon as they do, people start asking questions. Have you seen how much older Obama got in 8 years. When he started he looked like a young man, but after 8 years he looked like the crypt keeper. His life after did him well, but he lived through the grind years. It showed that he was hard at work to improve the lives of Americans. You cannot say that from Trump. He didn't age at all from his first term, because he didn't work at all. The only stress he had was self-inflicted; breaking the law and get into trouble for it. In his second term he working just as little. He's more at the golf course than behind a desk. Maybe he's doing what the doctor ordered, but why don't you stop electing such old guys and elect younger people, who can actually do the job. I'm talking to both parties now.
By phart at 21,May,25 19:36 other posts of phart 
because the young people don't have enough experience to understand how things work to run a country.
anyone under 40 couldn't flush a toilet without a app on their cell phone. not all their fault, they just are not old enough to have been there done that yet.
as for my health, i feel a bit better taking the meds,2 pills so far, but the chest pain is worse now,everything i do bothers me now. took me 2 hours to do a 1 hour mowing job this morning, and just bush hogging on the neighbors tractor about wore me out and it is a new 50 hp machine with power steering and the whole kitncabootal.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 21:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You voted for Trump, you don't care about a president understanding how ANYTHING works.
How about 60 years old? That's more than enough life experience and also the idea that they still have some future left to have to live with the results of their decisions. An 80 year old only thinks about their next meal. Why would you trust them to care about investments for the future?

At least you are trying to stay active, that's important.

You said you can "pay a 30 dollar copay". A copay on what?
Do you have insurance, Medicare or Medicaid? I hope you inform yourself
on the 'Big Beautiful Bill' that Trump wants to push through.
It contains massive cuts to healthcare programs. It's almost 100% guaranteed that it will affect you, if they get it passed.
Do you understand that such a bill could mean life or death for you?
By phart at 22,May,25 15:38 other posts of phart 
70-30 insurance through my former employer.
i went to work for a employer that provides health coverage for it's employees . after obama care kicked in, they could no longer afford to offer it to retiree's hired after a certain date, so lucky for me, i was ok.
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,25 10:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Obama Care was a big hand-out to the healthcare / health insurance industry.
It was still an improvement over the system you had before, where patients could just be denied care, with stupid and dishonest excuses, when health insurance didn't want to pay their bills.
If that increased the price of health insurance, it also increased it's reliability. What good is health insurance, if it doesn't pay when you really need it?





By Cody8789 at 22,May,25 01:55 other posts of Cody8789 
Phart, 197/112 is strokable, be careful and take your pill regularly
By phart at 22,May,25 15:39 other posts of phart 
i am due back to the dr in 2 weeks , i am actually feeling better unless i move. i am having more chest pain now than before the pill. confusing to me for sure
By Cody8789 at 22,May,25 22:53 other posts of Cody8789 
Have you been for a calcium scan of your heart. I went for one and my test came out great on my heart, but they found several nodules on my left lung the largest being 7.7 mm (millimeters) they think they were caused from automotive work and sanding and painting cars using the wrong mask. Inhaling too much paint dust and painting cars over the years. I’m also on blood pressure meds (losartan) 50 mg. When I forget to take a pill I get chest pain also.
By phart at 23,May,25 02:14 other posts of phart 
no i had a stress test 10 years ago that showed everything good except for having afib. nothing was prescribed or anything for it. i plan to ask about that when i go back to the dr
By dgraff at 26,May,25 13:23 other posts of dgraff 
Be careful with them damn stress test with the treadmill blood clotting problem run in my family and my older brother was having difficulty breathing he went to the hospital and the first thing they did was a stress test he went home awaiting the results but couldn’t catch his breath he went back to the hospital and died in the hospital bed his eyes rolled up in his head and he just died the autopsy showed he had a blood clot in his lungs and the stress test broke it loose sending it through his heart
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I have the same condition but I know the warning signs it’s called deep vein thrombosis with a pulmonary embolism
By phart at 26,May,25 15:12 other posts of phart 
yea, if they say anything about another 1, forget it folks.
i couldn't do the treadmill,so they laid me on a bed and injected me with something. i think it was pure rocket fuel for my heart.
By dgraff at 26,May,25 16:22 other posts of dgraff 
Adrenaline to get your heart pumping
By phart at 26,May,25 16:53 other posts of phart 
well it worked, well over 250 beats i think



By CAT52! at 27,May,25 15:45 other posts of CAT52! 
Stress tests, after a certain age or if the patient is physically not able to do a treadmill one, get a nuclear stress test. It’s simple and very accurate.
By dgraff at 27,May,25 16:40 other posts of dgraff 
Still no stress test at all should be given until they test for blood clots that’s one of the biggest mistakes hospitals make
By CAT52! at 27,May,25 18:27 other posts of CAT52! 
In most cases, blood clots are not routinely screened for before a general stress test. Stress tests are primarily used to evaluate the heart's response to exercise or medication.
Other Considerations:
If a patient has a history of blood clots, or if they are at high risk of developing them, the healthcare provider may consider additional testing or precautions before a stress test.

Usually, an Echocardiogram is done b4 stress
By phart at 27,May,25 21:05 other posts of phart 
i am having more issues now than i did before i started taking the medicine, just walking to the truck gets me huffing and puffing. i will be asking questions next monday at the appointment for sure
By CAT52! at 27,May,25 21:44 other posts of CAT52! 
Ask your cardiologist if you have congestive heart failure. It's very common for people your age that have heart problems. Especially men
By phart at 28,May,25 01:21 other posts of phart 
i have never been to 1 of those. probably will get sent to 1 after next appointment, i would like to know what the heck is going on so i can get on with life.feeling great right now, but earlier today,i didn't have the wind to blow out a candle
By CAT52! at 28,May,25 01:52 other posts of CAT52! 
That sounds like it. Are your ankles swollen?
By phart at 28,May,25 11:46 other posts of phart 
no swelling at all actually.
By CAT52! at 28,May,25 15:45 other posts of CAT52! 
That's a good sign but, go to a cardiologist. It's important, Baby.






By dgraff at 27,May,25 21:20 other posts of dgraff 
They did an ultrasound on my leg to find them in me
By CAT52! at 27,May,25 21:45 other posts of CAT52! 
That is a normal thing.














By dgraff at 19,May,25 14:13 other posts of dgraff 
I wouldn’t have wished cancer on the poor old man but it just goes to show you that he should have asked for protection before his own political party fucked him in the ass that was a pretty big kick to the man sack and we all know it’s linked to the prostate

If i was Biden i would turn on them and confess every dirty secret he knows he has nothing to lose now
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Vengeance could be his
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,May,25 15:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's not fucking him in the ass, that's DEMOCRACY; the will of the people.
He shouldn't have been the standard candidate anyway.
Presidents shouldn't get their second term for free, they should show
that they still have the support of their base. WORK FOR IT!!!
They should have had primary elections.

You think those politicians are entitled to their power.
Who the hell told you that dumb idea? How does that serve YOU?
By dgraff at 20,May,25 19:55 other posts of dgraff 
It’s ok every thing worked out just fine Biden is out and I knew Harris didn’t stand a chance America’s not gonna vote for a woman for president the best choice is in the White House now
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And soon Biden will just be a horrible memory
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 08:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It's not OK, when you don't understand the principles of democracy.

You're correct that sexism and racism is probably a big reason for why Harris lost.
Biden was probably the only white male Democrat that could loose from Trump.
Harris might have been able to win from Trump, if Biden had given her more time.
However, because of his stubbornness, Democrats were stuck with a candidate
who lost the primaries badly in 2019/2020.

I'm curious how much the US needs to go down the drain, before you would ever admit that Trump was not the best choice for president.

At least you are not a pretender, saying how horrible you feel for Joe Biden.
By dgraff at 21,May,25 11:55 other posts of dgraff 
Of course you realize Biden didn’t step down on his own the Democratic Party ask him to step down mid way into the election and that was a major mistake on the democrats part what fools you people are
By CAT52! at 21,May,25 14:21 other posts of CAT52! 
This from a MAGA? Yeah, right. The Clown you fools elected has destroyed 100 years of improvement to the American way of life. Dumb.
By dgraff at 22,May,25 02:01 other posts of dgraff 
You will need to explain that comment
By CAT52! at 22,May,25 13:46 other posts of CAT52! 
Don’t have to. You are smart enough to understand.
By dgraff at 22,May,25 14:33 other posts of dgraff 
Sorry I can’t see things through democrat eyes for me and my wants every thing is looking just fine
By CAT52! at 22,May,25 15:54 other posts of CAT52! 
It's not just Democrats. It's Republicans too. The Housejust passed a budget bill by one vote. If that passes the Senate then YOUR food stamps, YOUR Medicaid, and other benefits you may be using will be cut. But, that's just one thing. I'm not trying to convince you on anything. Ananas can do that. All I can do is watch as this country is becoming a banana republic. I'm honestly crying about what's happening to it, but, most of all, I'm sadden about the people of this country. I always thought we, Americans, were smart and knowledgeable. It turns out most are like you.😢😢😢

By CAT52! at 22,May,25 21:29 other posts of CAT52! 
How Trump’s ‘one, big, beautiful’ tax bill could impact programs for women and children
House Republicans approved a sweeping package early Thursday morning that contained deep cuts to programs assisting low-income Americans, including Medicaid and SNAP food stamp eligibility.
By dgraff at 22,May,25 22:12 other posts of dgraff 
Don’t act like you care about women and children you democrats kill babies in the womb you allow trans genders to mutilate their bodies you allow teachers to tell children they can be any thing they want to be including a cat and poop in a litter box so don’t cry that you care
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 01:28 other posts of CAT52! 
Sure, Dgraff, we kill babies. Like your Repucker women never have an abortion, nor , you Repuckers never dip your pen in the wrong ink well. You are all a bunch of Hippocrates. I don't know of ANY transgender that got the change before they were of legal age and able to CHOOSE to change. And teachers, real teachers are right. Anyone can be what they want to be including being LIKE a cat and using a litter box. You were allowed to be a wrench handler with a penchant to be a TOP and a BOTTOM. Don't come now acting like you are above all that. Tell us all how Marcie is the love of your life while having to use Tampons to keep it from dripping out.
MAGA people.....sheesh.
By dgraff at 23,May,25 03:13 other posts of dgraff 
Republican women are classy like trumps wife they don’t lay down and spread their legs for every Tom DICK be hairy that cums along so we have no need for abortion
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 04:15 other posts of CAT52! 
The Clown's wife is classy? Ha, an Eastern European whore that latched on to a millionaire because it bought her a life outside her oppressive country? You are fools.
By dgraff at 23,May,25 10:37 other posts of dgraff 
Speaking of whores what is the difference between a northern whore and a southern whore
A northern whore says i will do you
A southern whore says i will do you all
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By phart at 23,May,25 12:21 other posts of phart 
oh so now you are against immigration all the sudden?
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 12:32 other posts of CAT52! 
Not at all. I'm against foreign whores in White House.
By phart at 24,May,25 13:29 other posts of phart 
so a american whore won't affect anything?
By CAT52! at 24,May,25 19:42 other posts of CAT52! 
That's right. We have a male American whore now. No big deal.
By phart at 24,May,25 20:07 other posts of phart 
well you didn't mind clinton and monica
By CAT52! at 24,May,25 21:42 other posts of CAT52! 
No, I didn't. It was private and consensual.
By phart at 25,May,25 02:37 other posts of phart 
not good role models for young American's though, degraded the office.
By CAT52! at 25,May,25 04:08 other posts of CAT52! 
See? That's how you Republican MAGA ARE. You are hypocrites. A man has an extra marital affair and he's a bad example, but, having a convicted felon who slept with a porn start while his wife was pregnant with his fourth child. A rapist and a liar of the worst kind, but, that's ok with you. Grow up.
By phart at 26,May,25 01:23 other posts of phart 
a crooked lawyer or a real estate mogul that owns multiple golf courses all over the world? which is the better role model>?
By CAT52! at 26,May,25 03:18 other posts of CAT52! 
It's not who's better or worse.
By phart at 26,May,25 11:48 other posts of phart 
so your kid could be like either and you wouldn't mind?
By CAT52! at 26,May,25 13:03 other posts of CAT52! 
I didn’t say that
By phart at 26,May,25 15:13 other posts of phart 
well then it does matter who is better or worse then doesn't it?
By CAT52! at 26,May,25 16:27 other posts of CAT52! 
Not if both are worst
By phart at 26,May,25 16:34 other posts of phart 
there is always a lesser of the 2
By CAT52! at 26,May,25 16:45 other posts of CAT52! 
Yes, Phart. You are right
By phart at 26,May,25 16:49 other posts of phart 
so which would you have chosen?

and why?


i would choose Trump as a role model for my son because he is successful and well traveled.
most that don't like him are just jealous they don't have his money and influence.

had Elon been in the office, a better choice.
we need people to aspire to be intelligent and successful, not lazy bumss.























By phart at 22,May,25 21:54 other posts of phart 
that is what urks me about democrats, they assume we are as dumb as they are. yes you do need to explain.
i am a college grad and i see very little to nothing he has ruined for hard working American citizens .only things he may have ruined is the free gravy train alot of folks were riding on our dimes.
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 04:23 other posts of CAT52! 
You want me to explain? Ok, here's a President that wants revenge for opponents and those that campaigned against him?
I'm not going to argue there are many Democrats that are as offensive as the Clown and his cadre. What I am saying is that you Republicans, especially MAGA Republicans, have disrespected the Construction, took for granted that your point of view is the only one that counts, and destroyed our economy. And don't come back with " it's Joe Biden's fault". Yes, you are dumb for swallowing that bilge that the Clown is pedaling.





By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 16:27 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Don't be daft, Biden had no chance of winning. They just realized it too late.
The Democrats just needed to make him keep his promise of sticking to one term.

I agree that they are fools though. Bernie Sanders is showing them how to win,
but they still don't learn. Lots of them still keep thinking they need to move to the right to win, while it's absolutely clear that the need to be progressive populists and kick out the horrible Israeli donors and stop taking money from billionaires. When they show the people that they are working for them, the people will fight
for them in return.

The large majority has now seen how Trump is just reversed Robin Hood.
Maybe you still like that, but most people don't.
By dgraff at 22,May,25 01:48 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah they are foolish the Republican Party would never except money from billionaires
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Bernie sanders can’t show any one how to win Christ he couldn’t even win when he ran for president he’s just another dottering old fool that needs to be put out to pasture or sent to the glue factory
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,25 16:28 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
At least you cannot say that with a straight face, so you know...

Bernie couldn't win, because even what you call left-wing media was against him. They treated him like he didn't exist. While he was filling football stadiums full of supporters, the so-called left-wing media showed an empty stage of a small room, where Trump was about to speak.
All the media, from 'left' to extreme right, is owned by billionaires, who don't like a socialist who fights for the working class. They like corporate Democrats who serve them and all Republicans who serve them.
The sad thing is that you listen to those corrupt media outlets.

That 'dottering old fool' organizes 10 times the crowds that Trump ever did.
He's not going to run for president again, but he is organizing the resistance.
By dgraff at 23,May,25 03:04 other posts of dgraff 
Old Bernie can’t organize his closet yet alone a crowd
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 04:28 other posts of CAT52! 
And yet he speaks the truth. He'll never be president but I would vote for him. He's for the people.
By dgraff at 23,May,25 10:40 other posts of dgraff 
Because you’re a communist that’s why you would vote for him
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 13:06 other posts of CAT52! 
You don't even know what Communism is. All you are familiar with is an authoritarian government that rules Russia and that, baby, ain't Communism. Bernie is a good man that cares about the people. That's not a reason to put him down. He never committed corporate fraud or raped a woman nor did he party with un.deraged girls.



By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,25 09:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Why are all those crowds turning up then?

Face it, Trump is a stupid lying asshole and Bernie is an honest man
who people really like, because he actually cares about them.
By dgraff at 23,May,25 10:46 other posts of dgraff 
He’s a communist
Hell a whole country followed Hitler
I can just picture old Bernie leading his followers to a trench of kerosene and lighting them on fire 🔥
I don’t even like him being in my country
By CAT52! at 23,May,25 13:10 other posts of CAT52! 
Okay, now you are mixing "isms". Also, are you against Americans? Because, last I checked, he was born in the good old USA. The real USA. Not this MAGA garbage we have now.

By Ananas2xLekker at 25,May,25 08:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"He’s a communist"
No, he's a social democrat, at best a democratic socialist.

Damn, if there was an aptitude test for voters, you would fail it.

"Hell a whole country followed Hitler"
I KNOW!!!, that's why I worry about Trump!!
He's saying and doing very Hitlery things.
He's associating himself with very Hitlery people.
He's helping dictators and fucking over free countries.

"I can just picture old Bernie leading his followers to a trench of kerosene and lighting them on fire"
That's the dumbest projection ever, because that's exactly what Trump would do. The fact that you still don't understand that he doesn't give shit about anyone, baffles me. He demands absolute loyalty from everyone,
but he gives NONE. He didn't care if they had his former VP lynched.
Anyone who crosses him once, immediately turns into his enemy, on which he threatens them with death.
Bernie has never done anything undemocratic in his life, he works together with anyone who shows a similar interest and he actually cares about people, even you.

"I don’t even like him being in my country"
That's because you can't handle democracy and that most of his ideas
are wildly popular.
By dgraff at 25,May,25 11:50 other posts of dgraff 
Bernie is as old as dirt
He will be gone soon off to be with Joe Biden and jimmy carter
Then he to will be just another horrible memory
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,May,25 08:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He's 4 years and 9 months older than Trump.
His mind is still as sharp as it always was.
Trump's 'mind' has been declining for a while now.
Also, his 'mind' has always been primitive and chaotic.

Trump and Bernie are both at risk of being dead tomorrow.
However, if they both live for another 5 years, Trump looks like he won't even remember Ivanka then, while Bernie is probably still sharp as a tack.
It's not something to blame Trump for or praise Bernie for, it's just genes. It's the job of the voters to honestly assess who's still capable of doing
the job that they are doing, which you clearly cannot do.
By dgraff at 26,May,25 13:10 other posts of dgraff 
Believe me when I tell you I’ve taken care of enough old people to know that they loose their minds in their early 80s but they become very good at hiding it my father lived to be 93 he drove to the day he passed away we all thought he was doing good until he passed away and I started going through his stuff I found directions to his barber 💈 of thirty years i found directions to get to his girlfriend house and I found he wasn’t paying his bills right he would forget so when I say Bernie lost his mind he’s just good at hiding it
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,May,25 15:31 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That might be true, but at some point hiding it becomes impossible.
Biden wasn't hiding it anymore and Trump isn't either.
Trump is forgetting a lot. He's trying to hide it with confidence.
When he is signing bills, he has NO IDEA what they are for.
They could easily put something in front of him that hurts your cause.
You just don't want to see the faults on your own side.
By dgraff at 26,May,25 16:29 other posts of dgraff 
Personally I don’t trust my government or any body else’s government no matter who is running it but I trust a business man over a politician business men lie in business deals politicians are trained to lie but it takes many years to get good at it like Biden was
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,May,25 15:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's because you hear 24/7 anti-government propaganda.
Trump and his cronies are intentionally fucking-up your government even more, to make people distrust the government even more.

That's all to serve the billionaires, who want to have full control.
Just bribing your politicians isn't good enough for them.
They want to divide your country in their own kingdoms, where they rule over you. Those are called; billionaire-ruled enclaves.

I suggest you do some research on Peter Thiel, who really likes
the ideas of Curtis Yarvin. They don't just like this idea, they push it, with donations and getting their boy JD Vance in position.
They want him to be the next president, so they can fully destroy democracy and government and get their kingdoms.

Why do I even tell you, you'd probably love to live in such a kingdom.























By CAT52! at 27,May,25 16:19 other posts of CAT52! 
One more post about my marital status.

I TRULY REGRET MAKING AN OFF-HAND REMARK WHILE COMMENTING ON TECSAN’S ABSENCE FROM SITE. IN MY WILDEST DREAMS I DIDN’T THINK IT WOULD BE SUCH A MAJOR SUBJECT OF DISCUSSION.
By bella! at 27,May,25 17:24 other posts of bella! 
But that remark changed the entire direction of the initial post and brought it to be about you.
By CAT52! at 27,May,25 18:24 other posts of CAT52! 
No. Everyone else brought it to be about me. People could just have ignored it, made polite comment, or say right there and then, "this is not appropriate for this conversation".
But, then again, as you said in another post, you are obsessed with me making myself the subject of the conversation.
You should read your own definition for this thread's purpose.
By bella! at 27,May,25 19:28 other posts of bella! 
I’m really do not have any obsession with regard to you.
By CAT52! at 27,May,25 20:15 other posts of CAT52! 
Sure, and the Moon is made out of cheese. Wisconsin cheese.






By phart at 24,May,25 13:28 other posts of phart 
this is where over regulation is ridicules and causes more trouble than it could ever be worth. how do you eliminate keys from everything?>
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By bella! at 26,May,25 17:21 other posts of bella! 
Ridiculous or ridicules? Two different words with two different meanings.
By phart at 27,May,25 00:11 other posts of phart 
spell check messed me up i guess, my hands are arthritic and i try to let spell check help. which ever word is similar to absurd or doesn't make sense?


By Ananas2xLekker at 27,May,25 15:02 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
According to ChatGPT:
"The article you're referring to discusses a Minnesota law that, starting July 1, 2025, will effectively make it illegal to sell or distribute most traditional metal keys within the state. This is due to a 2023 law aimed at reducing toxic metals like lead and cadmium in consumer products. While the law's primary focus was on items such as children's toys and personal care products, it inadvertently encompasses brass keys, which typically contain small amounts of lead for durability and machinability."

This is stupid. In your country, ca. 22 million people still have lead pipes for tap-water.
Even if you have copper pipes, lots of them are still welded with lead.
That's what the term plumber comes from.
A small amount of lead in keys is only a problem, if someone is making it a problem.
In any case, this could be fixed with a 5 minute amendment.
If they are not doing that, it means that they want to use it for political gain.



By bella! at 26,May,25 15:34 other posts of bella! 
Black fatigue? You might be surprised who have “black fatigue”.

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By bella! at 23,May,25 22:47 other posts of bella! 
This is an 18 minute YouTube video about the widespread use of meth by the Nazi army.

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By Ananas2xLekker at 23,May,25 09:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Statistics can be misleading:
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It's a joke, but it shows where people's thinking goes wrong.


By Ananas2xLekker at 19,May,25 11:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
FBI Director Kash Patel and FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino assuring us that
Jeffrey Epstein definitely committed suicide and that there is "no there there".
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Thanks for admitting it was YOUR SIDE, I was still suspecting some powerful liberals.
Now I'm 100% sure that it wasn't Bill Gates or Hillary Clinton.

Kudos for your embarrassingly incompetent handlers not getting caught red handed.
Maybe they asked the Russians to lend a hand.
By phart at 21,May,25 19:39 other posts of phart 
bullshit, that man didn't kill himself, he knew to much. all the famous people he hooked up with sex partners? yea sure,he died,but he had some help.
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 20:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Of course, and when your MAGA FBI cronies are denying that he was murdered
and call it suicide, then I know that YOUR SIDE DID IT.
By phart at 21,May,25 23:07 other posts of phart 
i say he was just another notch on the clintons gun stock
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,May,25 16:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If it was Clinton, they would not be saying it was suicide. YOU KNOW THAT!
If it was anyone but Trump, they would go after them. It's Trump.
Trump has been his best buddy for a very long time, and they are both horrible pervs.
He had his old friend killed, because he knew too much. No honor among thieves.
You could read it off their pathetic lying faces. They know!






By Ananas2xLekker at 19,May,25 08:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I see a lot of questionable YouTube channels report that Ford is shutting down production in the US. Some are saying the same about John Deere. Did any of you here something like that, from more trustworthy sources?
By phart at 19,May,25 10:45 other posts of phart 
aint heard anything yet
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,May,25 11:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
OK, we'll see soon enough, if there's something to it.
By phart at 19,May,25 14:22 other posts of phart 
a long description of each detail but here is groks summary
In summary, while Ford has faced temporary production pauses and layoffs, it is not shutting down US production. The company is adapting to economic pressures, including tariffs, by optimizing its US operations and investing in new facilities. For the latest updates, you can check sources like Reuters, CNBC, or Ford’s official statements.
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,May,25 15:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Could be true, but remember that they won't tell you, until they absolutely have to.
They don't want their stocks to drop, while they are negotiating.
By dgraff at 20,May,25 20:02 other posts of dgraff 
They survived the Obama crisis with out help they will survive this the after shock of Biden is tough on everyone
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 08:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Obama SAVED them, after they almost went bankrupt, from Bush's crisis.
Is your brain really this messed up or is this your idea of a joke?
By dgraff at 21,May,25 10:42 other posts of dgraff 
Obama saved GM and Chrysler not Ford check your info Ford didn’t pay large bonuses to its upper brass and were able to weather the storm on their own
Is your brain really that messed up or is it a joke that you didn’t know Ford refused government help
By Ananas2xLekker at 21,May,25 16:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Ford saved itself, but Obama’s actions helped save the broader ecosystem that Ford depended on. If GM and Chrysler had collapsed, auto parts suppliers would have failed too, which would have badly hurt Ford, even though it didn’t take bailout money. Obama also returned people's trust in the economy. People don't buy a new Ford, when they don't trust the economy.

Explain what Obama crisis you were talking about, without any vague bullshit.

Obama fixed Bush's crisis and Biden fixed Trump's crisis.
I hope that the next Democrat can still find the pieces,
that will be left of your country, to glue back together.

A guy who went bankrupt 6 times will never be a good president!
Not only is he too stupid to succeed as a businessman, but he is used
to drop his losses onto his employees, partners and creditors.
That's exactly what he's going to do with the American people.










By phart at 18,May,25 12:02 other posts of phart 
boo hoo, might have to be more creative to keep a job.
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why should entertainment be expensive? that is 1 area of the economy that Ai could really save people money.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,May,25 13:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He doesn't need to keep a job anymore, he's LOADED and OLD.

They are using a British millionaire, so you won't mind that the jobs of normal Americans are affected. How can you read this, without understanding that yourself?
By phart at 18,May,25 15:00 other posts of phart 
that is the purpose of technology, to eliminate human error, human labor, human suffering, human effort, essentially the need for human action at all to survive, so why would i mind if if tech replaces people babbling into a mic or slamming on a keyboard?
there are bridges to be built, roads to maintain, homes to build and repair, and so on. Plenty of functional work for people.
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,May,25 19:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not arguing against the technology, I'm arguing against people who make believe that it isn't going to affect people, unless we adapt to it.
By phart at 18,May,25 20:15 other posts of phart 
of course it will affect people.
no one will be working, liberals will become the drones the government wants.
at 58 i will be gone by the time ai takes over completely, and i do believe it can and will at some point,

can you imagine what it will be like once ai determines humans are the enemy of the world and will start weeding out the useless humans? alot of boohooing will be going on but it is all because liberals grandparents were stupid and didn't allow companys to profit and etc?


imagine for a moment the very Rapture the Bible speaks of ,being initiated by AI using strategic nukes? All the things liberals hate all at once taking control, and decimating the earth they claimed they were trying to protect;?

imagine for a moment that the very God you don't believe in is actually AI and is coming back like a thief in the night? the believers are bringing Him back,that would blow your mind wouldn't it?
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By Ananas2xLekker at 19,May,25 08:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You are painting a very positive future there.
How about some regulation on AI, to maybe try to prevent that?

How do people survive, when no one is working anymore?
When the billionaires own the means of production,
who benefits from the robots and AI making everything?
But, when there are no jobs, how do people buy everything?

Maybe we try to organize something, before 99% of people starve to death?
Or do you trust the billionaires to save everyone, by sharing what they have?

"liberals grandparents were stupid and didn't allow companys to profit and etc?"
Are you crazy? Are companies not profiting? Who else are?

The ones who want people to be drones is you; working drones.
Liberals want people to be free and self-reliant. It's in the term LIBERAL.
Maybe ask Grok, because you brain overflows from right-wing nonsense.

After everything we talked about, I would hope you at least started to understand
- Liberalism, classic and modern
- Neo-liberalism
- Libertarianism
- Socialism (as a slur and as what people really support)
- Communism
- Capitalism
- Oligarchy

Sadly, you are still confusing "liberal" with "communist", which is much worse
than confusing apples with oranges.

Strange idea: According to you "god" created us, but now you are saying that humans are now creating "god", and that would be the same entity. I think that's your inability to define "god", it results in EVERYTHING fitting the idea of "god".
How can you believe in something that is such an undefined concept?

Even if I believed in that concept somehow, what good does it do me?
It's such an inconsistent concept, that it doesn't provide me with any basis
for my personal principles and ideology. That makes it a useless belief, for me.







By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 14:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Musk’s AI Grok bot tells users it was ‘instructed by my creators’ to accept ‘white genocide as real and racially motivated’.

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Why don't I use Grok? Because fascists will always be fascists.


By bella! at 15,May,25 22:20 other posts of bella! 
I don’t feel that this is “questionable” but it is definitely an indication that the Saudi’s are more confident with our leadership under President Donald Trump!

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By phart at 16,May,25 02:37 other posts of phart 
yea, i don't know where the laughing stock thing comes from but Trump is back and things are going to get better.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 06:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What is questionable is the reason why you care if the Saudi’s are more confident
with your leadership under Trump. Do the Saudi's share your values?

Why do you like it that an Islamic terrorist supporting dictatorship feels positively
about your leadership?

Why don't you ask Grok the following question:
"What has become of the reputation of the US, with modern democratic countries,
under president Trump?"


By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 06:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sorry, your link doesn't work, can you provide the title of the video?
By bella! at 16,May,25 10:27 other posts of bella! 
You know when I saw that in the link I thought there was a problem however the link works for me.

It’s a piece by SKY NEWS AUSTRALIA and the title is; Saudi prince gives Donald Trump the royal treatment after hilariously humiliating Joe Biden
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 13:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Whaddayouknow, it actually works. Never had that before.

OK, so this horrible dictator who has people beheaded on the town square,
and makes women walk around in a tent, likes Trump more than Biden.
What makes you think that's a good sign?

Why would they give Trump the royal treatment?
Because they know it works with him, and he reciprocates.
And that should not be dependent on how they are nice to HIM,
but on how they behave in the world. Maybe if they stop funding terrorism?





By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 13:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Here's a funny short video about simulating a flat earth.
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By bella! at 15,May,25 12:54 other posts of bella! 
Benny Johnson talks about the Diddy trial.

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Is it possible that the Clinton’s and the Obama’s are part of a sex cabal attempting to assassinate President Donald Trump?
By phart at 15,May,25 14:25 other posts of phart 
well listening to music is kinda like eating candy, the first thing you do is throw away the rapper.
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By bella! at 15,May,25 23:26 other posts of bella! 
10 things that Robert F. Kennedy, Secretary of Health and Human Services, is about to ban or limit. PLEASE DON’T TAKE AWAY MY #10

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By phart at 16,May,25 02:36 other posts of phart 
i agree with the fake sugar being took away , far worse than the real thing in moderation.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,May,25 09:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Does he have any evidence of it? He has a tendency of wildly generalizing
on things like that. Not all the "fake sugars" are bad. He's just a dumb-ass
who believes lots of fake news. He's supposed to follow medical science.
That's his job! He shouldn't impose his personal nonsense ideas on everyone.




By bella! at 15,May,25 01:02 other posts of bella! 
This is really sad, a 7 and 9 year old armed with a gun! Their father is incarcerated and there’s some type of documentation that police have been called to their house 50 times! It’s a relief that no one was hurt!

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By phart at 15,May,25 01:59 other posts of phart 
i saw that and mentioned it here the other day. really sad.
and of course some folks will blame the gun. i blame the lack of parenting. but i think the cops did a decent job this time.
By bella! at 15,May,25 11:33 other posts of bella! 
You posted that HERE or somewhere in the Forum?

So sad that two little boys, brothers aged 7 and 9, have a father that chose to teach them HOW to use a firearm who also happens to be an absent father , WHY?, because he’s incarcerated. Yeah, it’s not mentioned why he’s incarcerated, I wonder whether it has to do with one or all of the 50 times that law enforcement was called to their home? Where is the accountability of the mother for that matter? These boys are so young and should have many years ahead of them but their lives are off to a bad start. So sad, so very sad!
By phart at 15,May,25 14:24 other posts of phart 
another thread, not this 1.





By phart at 14,May,25 19:27 other posts of phart 
people are so against profiling,by race or religion. but why is it, that yet again, a terrorist has a name referencing muhamad>? only registered users can see external links
By bella! at 15,May,25 00:00 other posts of bella! 
I looked for more information on this article and man. Although additional articles state he resides in Melvindale, Melvindale is only 3.2 miles away from Dearborn, MI and if I’m not mistaken, Dearborn has the greatest population of Middle Eastern folks outside of their Middle Eastern countries. Golly, it’s comfort to know that terrorists are planning attacks on TACOM only 40 miles away from me!
By phart at 15,May,25 00:31 other posts of phart 
yea, ver scary, 1 of the pilots of the 911 planes into the towers lived 3 doors down from a friend of mine. acted like just another person in the neighborhood, checked his mail and such,mowed the lawn. mail order husband for a 300 pound woman that had lived alone for along time is how he got in. and my buddy was watching the news after 911, and there was his neighbors mug on the tv screen. government cars surrounding the house and etc.
quite a shock. folks don't realize that kind of thing is right under our noses.




By phart at 03,May,25 02:22 other posts of phart 
At least some attempt is being made at justice for the unarmed veteran on january 6th.

nothing can bring her back but perhaps ,perhaps,police will think twice about shooting a unarmed person again.if she was black i am willing to bet the cop woulda got the death penalty.

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By sherryann at 03,May,25 02:33 other posts of sherryann 
Your last sentence is absolutely correct. And if the shooter was white, he would have been plastered over the news nonstop, instead of being hidden.
By phart at 03,May,25 02:36 other posts of phart 
exactly, it was a couple years before his name was ever public and he is still well hid.
should be on trial for murder.
it would be half way understandable if she was holding a weapon as she came in the window,a gun or a club,but she was totally unarmed.
there were plenty of armed people around that the cop could have shot at and had some logical reason to do so. but he chose to shoot a woman that was unarmed.
By Ananas2xLekker at 07,May,25 15:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Are you fucking mental? Your cops shoot/kill people all the time,
with way less evidence that they were in any/mortal danger.
Normally you think it's a capital offense just to talk back to a cop.
You've defended every single killer cop, no matter how clear their crime.

I agree that Ashley Babbit didn't need to get shot, but by YOUR normal standards, those cops were in their right to kill every single Jan 6th rioter, who acted violently that day.

All the people who we argued about previously were UNARMED.
Some were even cuffed and lying face down on the pavement.
Don't you think your double standards are a bit extreme now?

When it's people you identify with, almost nothing justifies them getting shot.
When it's a black person, you will find anything to justify them getting shot.
How about having reasonable standards and sticking to them?

Cops shouldn't shoot/kill anyone, unless someone's life is in mortal danger,
no matter their skin color or political ideology. How about having that standard?


By CAT52! at 07,May,25 18:17 other posts of CAT52! 
Why are you and Phart so upset when a cop shoots an insurrectionist climbing into the Congress bldg to do injury and destructive mayhem but try to excuse a cop that kneels on the throat of a dying victim that was on the ground and not fighting? Double standard? What should this Capitol cop have done? Handed his weapon to the woman?
You, Sherryann and you, Phart, why don't you start to look at ALL the facts, pro and con?
By sherryann at 08,May,25 02:15 other posts of sherryann 
Don't post my name here again cat52!. Don't say shit to me! I DON'T answer to you! She was unarmed and murdered by a black cop whose identity was hidden precisely because he's black-protected by the liberal MSM. You're a twisted thinker, an attention seeker, a sex offender lover, and a LIAR! I was the only one on this site who believed your heart story because I felt sorry for you. Silly me!
By CAT52! at 08,May,25 04:27 other posts of CAT52! 
Listen, Sherry, love is fickle. WOODY and I had been married for 20 yrs when his sexual crimes were brought to light. He was by then, the father of my three children. I supported him during his trial but separated. As soon as it was over I divorced him and we stayed divorced for 14 yrs. That was because I didn’t want my children to have to live with a sex offender father until they were adults. But, one can’t deny love. This man broke my cherry and he’s always been nothing but a prince to me. I know you and Skittles are friends and so I understand your disgust with me for loving a sex offender. So what do you want me to do? A man walks on the wrong side of the law for one time in 1984, one time, and he’s been condemned to a life living in a gilded cage. Murders don’t get such long sentences. Don’t get me wrong. I will never forgive him for what he’s done to my family and, especially, to me. But, I love him and no one, not you nor Skittles or those other bitches that follow his stench, will make me stop loving him even if I have to forfeit my soul because of it.
Now that I got that off my chest let me remind you that WE are members of a porn site. Neither you, me, or anyone else in ShowItOff walks the high moral ground.
If I’m a twisted thinker then what does that make you? You, that is terrified of living with people? Well, let me tell you what it makes you, a poor soul that makes me sad knowing that what I consider, a good and gentle woman has to suffer such a sad life.
Yes, I know you are a conservative person, but, and I don’t want to disrespect you, however, the truth is, you are also a racist bigot.
So, I will try to not post your name ever again. And if I forget, then, you will definitely have the right to call me a LIAR.
Go with God. May the rest of your life be a happy one.
By sherryann at 08,May,25 19:27 other posts of sherryann 
Cat, any sex crime is wrong, especially when a kid is involved. You say I'm "terrified of people"- it's called knowing where you're at. You say I am a "racist bigot". It's not racist to see and acknowledge what's happening right before your eyes. Plus you're the one who calls people "dirty jews" "rag heads" and "homos." I would never talk like that. You wouldn't last a day in a crooked dem-run high crime sanctuary city. You're good in a red state.
Not sure if your "Go with God" etc. is genuine or not...if so, I wish you the same.
By CAT52! at 08,May,25 20:21 other posts of CAT52! 
To the “lady that won’t allow me to post her name”. You are right, any sex crime is wrong, especially if it involves kids. You won’t get an argument from me, but, why would you think differently? Is it because I love a man? I didn’t just say it, I strongly believe you are a racist bigot. Disguise it any way you like, you still put down liberalism as being a partner in the crime of your city.
Miami's crime rate is higher than both the national and Florida state averages, particularly for violent crimes. The city has a high rate of violent crimes, with a 1 in 180 chance of becoming a victim, and property crimes, including motor vehicle theft. Miami is also a significant hub for fraudulent activities, leading the nation in reported fraud cases.
I survive my city and you are right. It is a red city, but, it’s a city were you other Americans abandoned it while taking Old Glory with you. The ones with cojones stayed and fought. We didn’t hide in our houses trembling from fear.
Yeah, in the heat of the moment I do call individuals a Dirty Jew or a rag head, or a homo. So what? I’ve never turned my back to help any unfortunate and I don’t care what ethnicity or sexual proclivity they happen to be.
The Go with God, etc, was and is genuine. I just don’t need reciprocity……..nor do I want it.
By sherryann at 08,May,25 21:56 other posts of sherryann 
You won't get it again I guarantee you. YOU called ME out, in a post with two short opinions about J6. What the fuck is it with you? I don't CARE what your husband did, you love him, good! Who cares!? I'm not interested in ANY of it including you thinking I'm a racist! I don't give a fuck what you think about me, don't give a fuck about crime here or there or anywhere! If you want to call people those names, have at it. It doesn't have anything to do with me. I know how much of an attention seeker you are, so keep posting like you're known to do. Talk to yourself, not to me!
By CAT52! at 08,May,25 22:16 other posts of CAT52! 
You might say I like expressing my opinions about what I care about. This is an open forum that's administered by Bella!. If you don't like comments on your posts, then don't post. FYI, I didn't call you out for your shortcomings as a person. All I said was that both you and Phart are applying a double standard and suggested you look at both sides of the question. You are the one who experienced a hissy-fit. Well, I'm not going anywhere and I'll talk to anyone I want. What are you going to do? Pull a Skittles and send inappropriate pictures from my page to my kids?
BTW, I commend you for your command of the art of deflection. I see that if you can't defend your views with facts or truths you go for the indignation and name calling. Classy, very classy, lady.
By sherryann at 08,May,25 22:42 other posts of sherryann 
Fuck you! The capital police officer's actions were wrong. "Hissy fit"? Because I told you not to post my name here? You think the white lady deserved to get murdered and I don't. Nothing more nothing less.

Do NOT bring Sir-Skittles name into this!
By CAT52! at 09,May,25 00:44 other posts of CAT52! 
You are wrong. I don't believe anyone deserves to be killed, especially murdered. You just made an assumption. The wrong one but an assumption.

Skittles is already part of this chat. You don't think I see that it's Skittles that's doing the chatting while you front for him? Sorry to tell you but you are not clever enough to be so confrontational. You want to be the go between? Tell him I don't scare easily and if he wants to tell something to my face, all he had to do is publicly state he won't trash my page and I'll unblock him. Till then, change your rag often. You sound like a pissy little girl.


By bella! at 09,May,25 08:05 other posts of bella! 
It has been my hope that posters can have an opinion while still maintaining civility toward others. With that said, I did not find your initial post to be offensive however something struck a sour note with sherryann.

Yes, sometimes the head and heart can conflict but I’m having a difficult time processing and understanding loving someone who has commits an egregious crime; murder, r@pe*, molestation, etc. I’m really trying to be open minded without judging you.
By CAT52! at 09,May,25 11:20 other posts of CAT52! 
Like I've said above, love is fickle. Judge away. I have to face myself every morning and ask my reflection, "Why?" Our divorce lasted 14 yrs. My choice. My hurt. It wasn't as if there weren't plenty of other men who would have loved to share the rest of their lives with me. I just couldn't help myself. Now, this year marks 54 yrs since we said our original vows in 1971.
By dgraff at 14,May,25 09:50 other posts of dgraff 
My good friend Dr Phil thinks that you are afraid to grow old alone and that is why you took him back I have the same problem that is why I have a Marcy would i rather live alone of course no drama no having to pee out side because she is hogging the bathroom or any of that stuff but I also am afraid to live alone at my age I’m not big on the medical profession don’t trust them so when things go wrong with me it is usually life threatening
By bella! at 14,May,25 10:13 other posts of bella! 
I don’t believe that I’m “afraid” to grow old alone, I am quite content. I do what I want to do and when I want to do it. Sometimes I think about my life and it saddens me when I come home and no one there to give me a hug or ask me how my day was. Sometimes I wish there was someone to discuss different matters with that would help me in making decisions but ultimately, I like making my own decisions.

Hey, dgraff, I’ve my haven’t had to pee outside in a hundred years! Those days are far behind me….drinking too much, not being able to make it home and needing to scope things out so I could pop a quick squat!

By CAT52! at 14,May,25 11:23 other posts of CAT52! 
I was 29 at the time we divorced and in my prime. Being alone for the rest of my life, even 14 yrs later, didn't come in to the picture. I took him back because he was, and still is, the love of my life.
By dgraff at 14,May,25 11:35 other posts of dgraff 
I see you know with out Marcy I probably would be dead by now when I think back at how I drank and the eating habits I had
By phart at 14,May,25 12:57 other posts of phart 
just be thankful you folks can bring yourselves to trust others that much. after my fiasco a few years ago and what i went thru as a kid, i don't trust people very much at all.and having someone living in your house with you,requires a lot of trust













By Ananas2xLekker at 09,May,25 07:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I think the cop that shot and killed Ashli Babbitt acted out of fear. He had no good reason to kill her, there were other options to resolve the situation. He could have pulled her out of the hole she was crawling through, overpower her and cuff her. Or he could have punched her groggy, so cuffing her was easier. Dutch cops have been under similar situations and they didn't kill anyone. It's how your cops are trained that results in civilians losing their lives.

I have told your side this many times, but you keep rejecting it.
You can only see that something is wrong, when it happens to one of you.

There is one difference though. Your side defends cops who shoot people out of fear
in almost every situation: one cop against one unarmed black man -> the black man deserved it somehow. You have ALWAYS picked the side of the cop.
The Jan 6th cop wasn't facing just Ashli Babbitt one on one! There was a crazed mob waiting to follow her, threatening to kill them. You must have seen the video.

They didn't have a good reason to kill Ashli Babbitt, but it's very clear that under that situation they were going to be forced to shoot someone, to save their own lives.
It wasn't necessary to shoot to kill, but shooting a few in the legs was inevitable.

When you have a system that protects cops that kill people, in almost any situation,
then they won't be held accountable when it happens to someone you care about.
Now it's Ashli Babbitt, but next time it could be a family member. This happens to
black people ALL THE TIME, but you don't want to hear about that. Meanwhile,
Trump is signing executive orders that make your cops even more dangerous.

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"2. Make it more difficult to hold officers accountable for misconduct"
Do you think another Ashli Babbitt will be cared about in the future?

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First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

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By phart at 10,May,25 01:47 other posts of phart 
the 1 that claimed he could not breath should have been left in the police car until a ambulance came, the cop had something against that man and used that moment to take him out.
the jan 6 cop is just a fucking murderer that should be in jail.period. plenty of armed people he could have been afraid of. there was a fellow walking around with horns on his head, he mighta got gored by a horn, shoot shoot.
but no, he waited until a unarmed WHITE woman was halfway in a room thru a window and shot her. as defenseless as a child in that position.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,May,25 17:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
He was claiming that he could not breath, because the cop crushed his neck.
At least you now agree that it was murder of the first degree, while you previously blamed the victim, so we are making progress.

I agree that the Jan 6th cop is a murderer, but by your standards it was self defense.
You think just not following the orders of a cop is justification enough for him to shoot. Well, she didn't follow his orders. And it wasn't just the unarmed woman that was threatening them, but the whole crazed mob that stood behind her, ready to follow.
I don't know why you emphasize that she was white, because more than 90% of that mob was white. You're just showing that you think that it's a crime when a black cop shoots a white civilian and that it's self defense when a white cop shoots a black civilian.

Yes, she was defenseless as a child. Remember how you defended the cops,
when a mob of cops shot AN ACTUAL CHILD 60 TIMES?
Did any of those cops go to jail for that?
By phart at 10,May,25 21:29 other posts of phart 
no not first degree, just a opportunity. so second degree or manslaughter maybe.
but still had the fellow could have acted like he had sense, and behaved and not passed a fake 20, and he could still be breathing

i bring up the fact i think the cop is racist and took a chance to kill a whitey, thats why i bring up the fact she was white. racism sadly works both ways.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,May,25 21:59 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
In most jurisdictions in the United States, proving premeditation is required to convict someone of first-degree murder. First-degree murder is typically defined as a willful, deliberate, and premeditated killing. Here's what that means legally:
- Willful: The person intended to kill.
- Deliberate: The person made a clear decision to kill, not in the heat of the moment.
- Premeditated: The person planned or thought about the killing before doing it — even if only briefly.

There is video evidence of him sitting on his neck for 9 minutes and 29 second.
I wouldn't call it "premeditated" after a minute, but when he continued that long,
while people are warning him that he was killing Floyd, I think that applies to "premeditated". Note the "even if only briefly" part.

You are forgetting that it was never proven that George Floyd actually used
that fake $20 bill, and certainly not that he INTENDED to use a fake $20 bill.
"The bill was reportedly marked as counterfeit by store employees, but there was
no trial or forensic evidence presented to prove whether the bill was actually fake —
or whether Floyd knew it was."
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By phart at 12,May,25 21:14 other posts of phart 
ok make your mind up liberals, either you want electric cars,or you don't.
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we may have our own source of lithium but now suddenly it's mining impact is of concern to a few natives.
why isn't there concern for the folks in other countries where the shit is coming from>?

that old double standard again.
By Ananas2xLekker at 13,May,25 16:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not really a liberal on all issues, but a socialist. However, YES, I want electric cars.
Or, more accurately, I think we need electric cars. It's not top priority, but important.

I know that lithium mining is damaging to the environment. There are lots of other problems associated with the production of batteries. Those are the downsides of electric cars. However, for as much as I can oversee, the upsides outweigh the downsides.
Worse destruction of nature has been inflicted for the extraction of fossil fuels. Huge parts of Canadian forests are being destroyed for tar sands, Germany is digging even larger pits in the ground for lignite, oil spills are poisoning whole peoples in Africa, the Deepwater Horizon disaster of 2010 released approximately 4.9 million barrels of oil into the Gulf of Mexico over 87 days, many oil tankers leaked oil over almost every beach in the world for decades, fracking is poisoning your tap-water, Texans can hardly walk outside without risking cancer from the air-pollution, NOT TO MENTION CLIMATE CHANGE.

Lithium mining is not threatening the lives of billions of people living around the equator, in the near future, climate change is. Besides, lithium is probably only a temporary resource needed for batteries. Sodium-ion batteries are expected to be mainstream around 2030.

There is no double standard; climate change is not just your standard type of pollution,
it is a much more urgent problem. Still, cars are only 7-8% of the problem.
It's just a very popular problem, because we all love the freedom of personal transport.

Energy production: ~40% of global CO2 emissions
Industry: ~20% of global CO2 emissions
Agriculture, Forestry & Land Use: ~18% of global CO2 emissions
Transport: ~15% of global CO2 emissions
Buildings: ~6% of global CO2 emissions
Waste: ~1–3% of global CO2 emissions



By Ananas2xLekker at 07,May,25 13:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Florida Police Slapped With $10M Lawsuit For This (Video)
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By phart at 10,May,25 01:48 other posts of phart 
where's the lawsuit against the cops that used the UPS truck for target practice in january of 2020????
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,May,25 17:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That sounds like a case where I would support starting a lawsuit too.
But, is that an argument for not agreeing with this lawsuit?
By phart at 10,May,25 21:30 other posts of phart 
double standard
By Cody8789 at 11,May,25 00:30 other posts of Cody8789 
The ups truck incident that happened five miles from my house already indicted the four cops last month and is awaiting trial.
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Top 10 Signs of an Imaginary God
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The Death of Intelligence: Why Modern Society Celebrates Stupidity
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