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By CAT at 09,Dec,23 18:46 other posts of CAT 
Florida bill targeting drivers who cruise in the left lane moves through House

A few years ago we had a Republican governor that made it ok for drivers to stay in whatever lane they wanted to drive at any speed they wanted to drive. There Republicans don't know shit.
By phart at 09,Dec,23 19:44 other posts of phart 
I don't know what the fucking deal is with using the left lane. What good is it if everyone is bunched up in the right lane all slamming on brakes for people to merge and etc.
IF the speed limit is 65, and the person in the left lane is doing 65 or 68, then what is the problem? Any faster than the speed limit is breaking the law regardless of what lane you are in.
By CAT at 09,Dec,23 22:23 other posts of CAT 
That isn't the problem. The problem is with drivers doing 45 on the left lane on a superhighway whose speed limit is 65 or 70 and blocking faster traffic.
By phart at 09,Dec,23 23:00 other posts of phart 
Well that is a problem in all the lanes ,people driving well under the speed limit.
if you are doing 69 in a 65 ,no reason you shouldn't be able to set the cruise control in the left lane and ride. but it seems people that want to drive 82 think that you are in their way and they have "RIGHTS". and it is causing road rage when THEY pass on the right or whatever to get around someone.
If you ask me, they are the problem,
By CAT at 11,Dec,23 13:59 other posts of CAT 
We take the turnpike to the cabin. It takes 4+ hrs. The speed limit is 70mph. The minimum is 45mph. The average driver speed is 85mph. I set the cruise control to 80mph and stay on the right lane unless I'm passing. Invariably there will be a few that will be doing 70 or less on the left lane. No big deal. Just pass them on the right lane, right? Well, these dumbasses get right next to a semi that Has to do 70, and that stops anyone from passing. This creates a back log of perhaps as much as a mile. The trucker tries to help but he's not always able. It's even worse if the driver on the right lane is going much slower than the speed limit and the dumbass on the left decides to match that speed. The cops can make them move but, right now, it's legal thanks to the previous governor, a Republican.

By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Dec,23 13:12 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This is very funny. Just experience the sheer smugness of his stupidity.

"Flat Earther Has No Clue How Anything Works"
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By CAT at 07,Dec,23 02:19 other posts of CAT 
Bridget Ziegler—the Moms for Liberty co-founder who finds herself in the middle of a mйnage а trois sex scandal alongside her husband, Christian Ziegler, who is now the subject of a criminal probe—is such a coward that she dared not show her face, even on Zoom.

No shame.
By Gntlmn at 07,Dec,23 03:20 other posts of Gntlmn 
Yet another maga moron morass
By CAT at 07,Dec,23 14:27 other posts of CAT 
So true

By leopoldij at 07,Dec,23 05:36 other posts of leopoldij 
Hypocrites. What do you expect? They hide behind Christian values in order to do things they advocate against.
By CAT at 07,Dec,23 14:27 other posts of CAT 
I agree

By kebmo at 08,Dec,23 21:57 other posts of kebmo 
His wife was also somehow involved in the “Don’t Say Gay”
bill! Now that’s hypocrisy at its finest because she was
involved in a consensual threesome with her husband and
this woman who charged him with sexually assaulting
her on a different occasion a year later.

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By CAT at 09,Dec,23 15:40 other posts of CAT 
Time after time, all these sanctimonious RIGHT wing superstars have “feet of clay”

By CAT at 04,Dec,23 14:49 other posts of CAT 
LIZ CHENEY on why she believes Trump's reelection would mean the end of our republic

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By leopoldij at 07,Dec,23 05:37 other posts of leopoldij 
According to phart, Liz Cheney is a traitor.
By CAT at 07,Dec,23 14:28 other posts of CAT 
“According to Phart“. That’s laughable .
By leopoldij at 07,Dec,23 16:56 other posts of leopoldij 
Rudimentary decency is deemed laughable by repukers. That's how indecent they are.

By phart at 07,Dec,23 18:06 other posts of phart 
According to leo, all beings in the universe are dumb.since we will never travel into space and etc So, that would include him

By phart at 04,Dec,23 23:58 other posts of phart 
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By CAT at 05,Dec,23 12:42 other posts of CAT 
We are a very minute part of the Universe. But that is about size. Until we discover a more superior species, we are on top. And, I, for one, consider myself one of the"good" ones.
By leopoldij at 06,Dec,23 02:11 other posts of leopoldij 
There's no chance that we'll ever discover anything else out there that resembles life. Maybe it exists. But we'll NEVER encounter it.
By phart at 06,Dec,23 02:25 other posts of phart 
May I ask why you are so certain?
I am sure at some point a intellectual said "man will never fly with the birds" or Man will never see what is beyond that hill".
By leopoldij at 06,Dec,23 03:23 other posts of leopoldij 
Because of relativity and because we need at least 10 thousand years, at speed comparable to that of light, to go to some stars that may have planets sustaining life. At that speed we travel to the future, and certainly exceed the life of civilization or reach the end of human span. There are some absolutely fundamental limits in the universe that have nothing to do with technology. Besides, the mass increases by a factor of (1-(v/c)^2)^(-1/2) at speed v, which means that close to the speed of light mass becomes infinitely large. There's no energy that can boost such a mass, unless, say, we can harvest the energy of an entire star or black hole.

And then there's the fact that time gets fucked up at such speeds....

Forget it. There's no chance. Unless we manage to exist for another few billion years. Impossible. No species has lasted that long.
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Don't forget that we're still primitive. Mammals have existed for only 70 million years. That's nothing.
By CAT at 06,Dec,23 17:02 other posts of CAT 
Leo, we may never (probably won’t) be able to travel to another star system, but, evidence of our presence may be found by some other civilization that cracked the code for interstellar travel in their present time. That would be the “superior species”.
By leopoldij at 06,Dec,23 19:22 other posts of leopoldij 
There's no code. So long as physics and chemistry, exactly as we have figured out so far, is the same in all parts of the Universe, we'll never find anything and we'll never be found.

Mind you, I don't object to the existence of biology elsewhere, I'm just saying that we'll never know.

There's a chance like 0.0000000000000000001% that I'm wrong, but I consider this number practically zero.

By phart at 06,Dec,23 18:02 other posts of phart 
Leo,what you are saying is that another species from another world far far away, is to dumb to meet the criteria before us?
I will admit, we are not in a position as a human race at this time to travel much past the moon, but there are other planets out there, and to me, there is a possibility that they will find US first. I laugh when I see this
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By leopoldij at 06,Dec,23 19:19 other posts of leopoldij 
What I'm saying is that the concept of time even changes at high speeds in ways one can't comprehend with intuition. For example, there are many futures and many pasts and present moments that aren't comparable to one another. When we say "in the future" we have to take into account that the meaning of this changes with speed. This makes it even less probable to ever know that another civilization exists.

Some questions are meaningless. For example, if our universe isn't the only one. That we'll never know.

We can keep dreaming, of course, and laughing with little red men from outer space, but that's not a proof. There'll never be a proof.

By CAT at 04,Dec,23 21:34 other posts of CAT 
This is a chat with Bella!:

Read those words and rationale, calling someone a "MOTHER FUCKING HOMO" and another a "DIRTY FILTHY JEW" fit the occasion and apparently justified.
So you really believe that calling someone a "MOTHER FUCKING HOMO" OR "DIRTY FILTHY JEW" was warranted and "fit the occasion"? Shame on you that you are not able to keep your emotions under control and lack the ability to filter your words.

Yes, I do feel it was warranted and fit the occasion. Why should I feel shame for stating a truth/s? You can filter your words till the cows come home. That’s your thing, I guess. Me? No way, Jose.

Didn't you have an issue about one month ago when your name was mentioned for "worst member" poll? There were jabs made at you and how did you resolve that? Yeah, you ended up blacklisting me as well as another member just because.....

Yeah, that was dumb and I regretted it almost immediately. That’s why I un-blocked you and Dgraff. You took your sweet time to un-block me.

I was under the impression that you wanted to concentrate on what initially drew you to this website, being an "incurable exhibitionist" as well as the thrill of knowing men were excited by your pictures and sexy chats. Did the well run dry? Perhaps there weren't as many "lollipops" interested in your stimulating conversations because you're back in the Forum going at warp speed.

No, the well is still full and sweet. Not that’s any of your business, but, my porn life here is going at full speed. In fact, I don’t have enough time to juggle all the daily “sexy chats”.

By Ananas2xLekker at 04,Dec,23 13:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Transparent Aluminum - Star Trek Technology is now Real
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The link is broken. Just search YouTube for 'Wonder World Transparent Aluminum'.
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By CAT at 04,Dec,23 02:15 other posts of CAT 
Bella! posted:

“Why do some members feel the need to tag aka mention other members every ding dang time the burp bullshit?”

I would think that, you, Bella!, would know the answer to that. That’s what you do all the time.

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"Hey, dgraff, this is merely informational, the reason I requested that admin allow the "owner" of a forum thread OR blog to delete comments is because there are some members that aren't able to be respectful and/or act civilized. Yes, as an "owner" of a thread, I may make the choice to delete posts for the following reasons;

● when members make defamatory remarks toward others, ie calling someone a "MOTHER FUCKING HOMO", "DIRTY FILTHY JEW", etc.

● when it is apparent that a member has copied and pasted the same "bla bla blah" in multiple threads. I mean what's the purpose?

I'm really okay with 99% of the posters and their posts however there are some members that just don't know when enough is enough and/or when to stop and it's for that reason their posts may be deleted."

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Dgraff you posted a response to Bella! in response to the above:

“I understand that perfectly”

This is my response:
“That’s something, I guess. There’s hope you will understand more important things in life.
Tell your friend that, sometimes, calling someone a MOTHER FUCKING HOMO or a DIRTY FILTHY JEW fits the occasion. The truth is not always pretty, but, it’s the truth. Political correctness goes out the window when the only reasonable response is the above.
And that’s why, posting in my thread is essential to show my views without fearing those views will be deleted.”

By CAT at 03,Dec,23 16:34 other posts of CAT 
Dgraff, you posted in Bella!‘s thread:

“ Let some liberal fuck help them their the ones that have people hurting”

I assume you meant helping people in need. It’s just like you and other conservative FUCKS not to care, no matter why they are in that situation.
Another thing, liberals are not the only ones responsible for the suffering of a large part of the population. The Repuckers have fought tooth and nails to keep minimum wage down in the poverty level. The Clown exacerbated the situation by going on an economic war with China. And, if that wasn’t enough, his handling of the Covid pandemic set this country so far behind economically, it will take a whole generation for us to recover. It won’t make much of a difference who’s in charge, just not Trump or DeSantis.
In other words, Dgraff, you are full of 💩💩💩 and your pall, Bella!, is right there with you. 👿
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Dgraff, I did not attempt to move this topic to my thread. I DID MOVE IT TO MY THREAD. I’ve said it before. I like my thread, BECAUSE IT’S MY THREAD. You are not required to answer anything there. Neither is Phart nor @Balla!@. And, regardless of what Bella! said, I don’t need you.
I don’t move all posts to my thread. I’ve got lots to say and several members that do contribute to my thread. I move the ones that make me see red. The 💩💩💩 that you and your friends post sometimes needs for someone to refute. In Bella!‘s thread I run the risk she might delete it.
In the name of transparency, the reason I highlighted your nics and used the third person, is because I’m posting this here, too.
By dgraff at 03,Dec,23 17:01 other posts of dgraff 
What can I say we see with our eyes not a computer
By CAT at 03,Dec,23 21:48 other posts of CAT 
Dgraff, the problem, as I see it, is that your eyes have a limited range. A computer is just a tool, just like a socket wrench or a screwdriver. It’s use is as accurate as the user’s comprehension. You use a computer, either a desk/pad or a smart phone to participate here. Do you make fun of how you use it? I think not. I say you are shortsighted.

By phart at 03,Dec,23 20:13 other posts of phart 
sheesh, in a nut shell, dgraff is saying that the liberals need to put their money and physical effort into helping the "poor" it is all to easy for the liberals to say "tax the rich" and claim to use the money to "help" the poor when in reality, they know 90 % of it is wasted. some of their ideas to help the poor are to make safe places to do drugs. duh,why not heal the sick?
By CAT at 03,Dec,23 21:44 other posts of CAT 
Phart, don’t take my word for it, think about it.

Who’s responsible for these great social programs? Social Security (Democrats), minimum wage (Democrats), food stamps (Democrats), welfare, public hospitals, unemployment insurance, Affordable Care, WIC? All Democrats.
Democratic platforms seek to promote social programs, labor unions, consumer protection, workplace safety regulation, equal opportunity, disability rights, racial equity, regulations against environmental pollution, and criminal justice reform.

Tell me, what are the Repuckers able to claim as their own? Wasn’t the Clown who gave all those tax cuts to the rich?

By CAT at 01,Dec,23 16:14 other posts of CAT 
The House has voted to expel Republican Rep. George Santos on Friday, a historic move that hasn’t happened in more than 20 years.

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It was time. 👍😈
By phart at 02,Dec,23 03:48 other posts of phart 
way past time.
By CAT at 03,Dec,23 15:50 other posts of CAT 

By leopoldij at 01,Dec,23 15:35 other posts of leopoldij 
The worst ever American criminal finally died.
He served no time in prison for killingg 3 million people.
(In comparison: Hitler killed 2.7 million Jews.)
And he was even givem the (discredited) nobel peace prize.

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Measuring purely by confirmed kills, the worst mass murderer ever executed by the United States was the white-supremacist terrorist Timothy McVeigh. On April 19, 1995, McVeigh detonated a massive bomb at the Murrah federal building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people, including 19 children.



What's worse?
By CAT at 01,Dec,23 16:48 other posts of CAT 
He and Nixon have a lot to answer for. I know this will sound callous, but, my thoughts are for all those brave American kids from my generation who ended up as cannon fodder for nothing.
By leopoldij at 01,Dec,23 19:10 other posts of leopoldij 
And the millions of Laos people who were killed for nothing. They were humans too.
And how about those people in countries where he installed dictatorships? Argentina, Greece, and others. So many tortured and killed, including children.
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Correction: I was referring to Cambodia. Laos was also bombed. But Cambodia received more bombs than the allies used in the whole of WWII, including Hiroshima and Nagaski. Kissinger is responsible for that. Cambodia remains the most bombed country in history.
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By CAT at 29,Nov,23 17:46 other posts of CAT 
I posted on Bella!‘s thread on 11/28 this:

I'm sorry. I don't follow what you are trying to say.

And I still didn’t get an answer. Why?
By leopoldij at 01,Dec,23 15:32 other posts of leopoldij 
Because she doesn't follow what she says either.
She's just a religious, sex-hating, self-righteous, ultra-conservative person. No loss if you don't get a reply from her.
By CAT at 01,Dec,23 16:46 other posts of CAT 
No comment. Bella! is the way she is and she has a right to be as she likes. I don’t expect anything from anyone.
By leopoldij at 01,Dec,23 19:08 other posts of leopoldij 
No. Don't expect. I'm just starting some facts.
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By CAT at 29,Nov,23 20:58 other posts of CAT 
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On the move. Brrrrrr!

By CAT at 29,Nov,23 17:43 other posts of CAT 
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By CAT at 27,Nov,23 21:43 other posts of CAT 
Hey, Sir-Skittles you are talking 💩💩💩again. Regarding your post on Bella!‘s thread, here’s the truth:

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No Change in George Floyd’s Cause of Death, Despite Viral False Claims
By Saranac Hale Spencer

Posted on November 6, 2023 on FACT-CHECK

The police officer who kept his knee on George Floyd’s neck for about nine minutes in 2020 was convicted
of murder, and the medical examiner determined that police efforts to subdue Floyd caused his death. Nothing
about the autopsy’s findings have changed, but social media posts falsely claim new documents show Floyd
died of a drug overdose or natural causes.

Full Story
George Floyd, a Black man, was killed on May 25, 2020, after a white police officer,
Derek Chauvin, kneeled on Floyd’s neck during an arrest in Minneapolis for about nine
minutes while Floyd said repeatedly that he couldn’t breathe. The incident sparked protests
and riots across the country. Chauvin was subsequently convicted of murdering Floyd.

The county medical examiner who conducted the autopsy listed Floyd’s death as a homicide
and determined that the cause was “cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement
subdual, restraint, and neck compression.”
This finding was highlighted in the first set of charges leveled against Chauvin in May 2020
and was explained in detail by the medical examiner, Dr. Andrew Baker, during Chauvin’s trial.

“The top line of the cause of death is really what you think is the most important thing that precipitated
the death. Other things that you think played a role in the death but were not direct causes get relegated
to what’s known as the ‘other significant conditions’ part of the death certificate,” Baker said at the trial,
explaining why Floyd’s other health conditions weren’t included in his cause of death.

“So, the other significant conditions are things that played a role in the death, but didn’t directly cause
the death,” Baker said. “So, for example, Mr. Floyd’s use of fentanyl did not cause the subdual or neck
restraint; his heart disease did not cause the subdual or the neck restraint.” Nothing new has emerged
in the medical examiner’s findings. But recently posts have been circulating on social media falsely
claiming that new court documents show Floyd was not murdered and, instead, died of a drug overdose.
Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson also posted a video to his X account on Oct. 20 in which he says,
“George Floyd, according to the official autopsy, was not murdered. He died instead of what we used to
call natural causes, which in his case would include decades of drug use, as well as the fatal concentration
of fentanyl that was in his system on his final day.”

That’s not true. Floyd’s autopsy report hasn’t changed. It shows Floyd had fentanyl in his system when he
died, but determined his death was caused by action taken by police that resulted in cardiac arrest.
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner’s office confirmed to us in a phone interview on Nov. 3 that no
changes have been made. Experts at Chauvin’s trial also said the evidence doesn’t support the idea that
he had died of an overdose, as USA Today reported.
By dgraff at 28,Nov,23 00:22 other posts of dgraff 
They should have took the hand cuffs off of him threw a pistol to him and as soon as he pointed it at the officer they should have gunned him down
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 08:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Why, what did he do that deserves the death penalty?
By dgraff at 28,Nov,23 10:37 other posts of dgraff 
What didn’t he do he was a career thug never made an honest dollar in his life
Car jacking
Purse snatching
Assault and Battery
Stealing trick or treat candy from children
Tax evasion
I could go on and on
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 11:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This is what I found about his record:
"Between 1997 and 2005, Floyd served eight jail terms on various charges, including drug possession, theft, and trespass. In one of these cases, Floyd was convicted of possessing half a gram of crack cocaine in 2004 based on the sole testimony of police officer Gerald Goines."
"He served four years in prison after accepting a plea bargain for a 2007 aggravated robbery in a home invasion.[5] After he was paroled in 2013, he served as a mentor in his religious community and posted anti-violence videos to social media.[6][7][8][9] In 2014, he moved to the Minneapolis area, residing in the nearby suburb of St. Louis Park, and worked as a truck driver and bouncer. In 2020, he lost his job as a truck driver, and then his security job during the COVID-19 pandemic."

It looks like that his crime was all in the past and he served his time.
He did make an honest dollar in his life. You are making shit up.
By dgraff at 28,Nov,23 11:28 other posts of dgraff 
Still he’s nothing more than street trash when will you liberals learn that a tiger 🐅 can’t loose his stripes
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 12:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
It looks like he WAS, but that he cleaned up at least partially.
Is that enough to deserve the death penalty, by your account?
There are many millions of people like him in your country.
It will make law and order nice and clear; death for every crime.

You could saved a lot of money on Trump's lawsuits; just execute him.
R@pe, espionage, fraud and treason are a lot worse than Floyd’s petty crimes.
By dgraff at 28,Nov,23 13:26 other posts of dgraff 
Hey if you can make it stick go for it makes no difference to me

By CAT at 28,Nov,23 14:03 other posts of CAT 
Ananas, I consider my country to be the greatest of them all, but, it’s all material greatness. As long as we have people like Dgraff, and we have huge numbers like him, we are a very poor nation.
I don’t understand it. We could reach the sky. Instead we play in the excrements of society. There must be a name for that.
By Gntlmn at 28,Nov,23 15:40 other posts of Gntlmn 
There is. MAGA
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By phart at 28,Nov,23 14:10 other posts of phart 
he is 1 of so many classic cases of so called recovery.
When he died he was full of dope. When he died he was being accused of using fake money.
Someone gave him a security job, he lost it, someone let him drive a truck,he lost it, I wonder if a failed drug test was the reason for loosing the truck driving job? we will never know because the media would cover that up.
Very important to be sober while driving a truck of any size with a load on it.
Your research turned up info that was probably homogenized by AI,that is why it sounds so "ok".
By CAT at 28,Nov,23 14:22 other posts of CAT 
Phart “ because the media would cover that up. ”
Why? What is the gain for the media to do that? The media is a BUSINESS and they want to sell the news. That’s why birdcage bottom covers like Fox and other 💩💩💩 news outlets, look for controversial news.
You have been brainwashed, haven’t you?
By phart at 28,Nov,23 15:32 other posts of phart 
If you can put newspapers in your bird cage, you sure don't have a Parrot. Must be a parakeet.

Letting it out how he lost his truck driving job might would support people like me's ideas of floyd being a looser still to the minute he died.
TO many tears have been shed over that mongrel.Yes,the knee was not needed, just leave him in the car with the doors open and let him stroke out on his own would have been more fitting.
By CAT at 28,Nov,23 16:10 other posts of CAT 
The point is not what he was but that he got murdered. I get that you couldn’t care less that he died. I doubt anyone really would have cared if one more loser had passed away, but, until his last dying breath, he had the right to do so on his own. He did not deserve to be murdered.
Whatever he was should not deviate your thinking that the perpetrator of this crime had it right. That’s it. Murder is the ultimate crime.

By phart at 28,Nov,23 15:35 other posts of phart 
UH, is it petty to hold a loaded gun to a pregnant womans stomach while your buddies ransack her home?
That to me is bumping Hamas quality terror.
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Alot of good reading here on the zero floyd

By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 16:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Evidence found in Floyd's car shows that he was using Suboxone, a prescription medication used for adults with an opioid addiction. It blocks the effects of fentanyl.

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By CAT at 27,Nov,23 22:29 other posts of CAT 
Do you believe this? Are you saying taxes are not needed? The last time I’ve checked, the average person’s paycheck has a taxable rate of 16% out of which a good chunk gets returned when he files his tax return. The RICH are the ones that complain but, they are a minority and so, they push the idea that you are being overtaxed so YOU will do the complaining. There’s a lot of PORK in the budget and a lot is because of the Repucker’s Congress
By phart at 28,Nov,23 05:01 other posts of phart 
When I used be able to work, 33 % of my check went to taxes, and I did get a small refund but nothing much. State ,always wanted a check .I had them take some out thinking it would help but end of each year,wham ,hand them most of what the feds gave back.
If taxes were used for the right reasons, and were fair,of course they are needed. But when you pay income tax, then pay sales tax, then pay property tax,then pay--the list goes on, A good majority of your pay goes to taxes.
Look at your pay check, write the total taxes down, then look at your grocery receipt add that tax to the list along with state and federal gas tax when you fill up, and so on, and you tell me,it adds up to alot more than 16% ,more like 50% or more.Once you pay income tax, that is where it should stop. But you save and scrimp and go stay in a motel out of state,oh gee,let's add a hotel tax. more money gone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Nov,23 08:52 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's the problem, you paid 33% and Elon Musk pays (almost) nothing.

Someone has to cough up the money for your bloated military, infrastructure, veterans, fire departments, police, social security, Medicaid and Medicare, politicians and bureaucrats, education, gifts to Israel, farmers in trouble, a tiny bit of science, and paying for your huge debt. That's $4.1 Trillion.
Most of that $4.1 Trillion ends up on the bank account of the wealthy.

Since you think billionaires are already paying too much,
it's up to the working class to pay for everything. That's fair, right?
By phart at 28,Nov,23 13:53 other posts of phart 
ukraine,israel,and taiwan,and others,are probably happy about that bloated military.Otherwise they would have to send us stuff right? Yea right,if we needed as much help as ukraine is getting,the rest of the world would say screw you

By CAT at 28,Nov,23 14:17 other posts of CAT 
If you paid 33% of your paycheck to taxes, someone was stealing from you. Current tax code says that the maximum tax collected is 20% and at the end of the year there’s an adjustment. Either you owe money or you get a refund.
Independent contractors don’t pay any taxes until they file at the end of the year.
Overtime is taxed at 20% regardless what your regular tax rate is (16% for example)
Income taxes are generally Federal taxes. Some states also tax income, but, in any case, there’s a reason for the taxes. The military doesn’t sell cookies to finance an army. The roads are not built by Chinese slaves. Congress is not made up of volunteers. Public hospitals don’t run on donations.
However, you can walk instead of riding a gas powered vehicle. Buy only food and grocery staples (not taxed). Don’t work, live of the government’s dime. Go dumpster diving. No taxes.🤣😈

By phart at 17,Nov,23 14:35 other posts of phart 
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We are not co-parenting with the government.

2 smart women from florida.
By CAT at 17,Nov,23 17:17 other posts of CAT 
These women and their organization are full of crap. I won't go so far as to say they don't have their kids well being on their mind, but, they are causing tremendous damage to the school systems.
I can't wait for all this right wing, political/religious crap to go away like the Dodo bird. This is the Repuckers way to distract the voting public from the real issues facing this country. I personally researched this organization and their views are crap.
By phart at 17,Nov,23 20:32 other posts of phart 
Oh really?, Well alot of us conservatives have the same opinion of the liberals and their idea of "education".
So at least now you are getting a dose of how we feel when you want drag queens reading to the 5 year olds and 14 year olds being allowed to pee in the wrong bathrooms ,or use the litter box.
By CAT at 17,Nov,23 22:07 other posts of CAT 
I don't want a drag queen to read a book to my 5 yr old grandchild. Most parents on the left or the right don't either. Only you Repuckers bring this idiotic argument into a political arena that should be discussing more important and more realistic subjects.
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As far as a 14 yr old wanting to pee in the men's room or the women's room or behind a tree, it's not for you to put your two cents in. Actually, it should be between the child, his health provider and the school board. This is another subject Repuckers like to talk about along with women's reproductive subjects and other incendiary but useless subjects when it's time to talk about real problems. That's because you and yours are dumb when it involves the actual running of a country.
By dgraff at 17,Nov,23 23:36 other posts of dgraff 
Drag queens should remain in the closet period
By CAT at 18,Nov,23 15:57 other posts of CAT 
While drag queens can be homosexual, they are mostly for entertainment. In essence they are actors. What do you have against actors?
By phart at 18,Nov,23 18:31 other posts of phart 
sexualization around young people is the real issue. IF drag queens were entertaining adults only, I doubt you would hear about or read about as much disagreement.
By CAT at 20,Nov,23 01:21 other posts of CAT 
Can you give an example of an inappropriate incident involving a drag queen and children?
By phart at 20,Nov,23 02:45 other posts of phart 
No because the media keeps things under wraps they don't want us to see.
But can you show me any examples of what more good it did for a funny dressed man to read a story instead of a normally dressed person?
By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Nov,23 10:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There are lots of funny dressed people reading stories to children.
There are shows for children where people dress as big birds, blue bears, other animals, fictional creatures, gnomes, famous people from history, etc, etc..
You don't care about all of that, only when it is a man, dressed as a woman or a feminine looking fantasy expression.

You are afraid that children get 'damaged' if they are raised with anything besides what your conservative, sexist, narrow-minded ideology agrees with.
The reality is the opposite; your ideology damages children's ability to grow up into well-thinking complete people, who can make wise decisions, to develop themselves and their country.
By phart at 20,Nov,23 14:59 other posts of phart 
i can't see how being read to by a man dressed as a woman is helping anyone grow up wiser.
more CONFUSED is more like it.
"why is this man dressed up like my mommy"?
By CAT at 20,Nov,23 22:46 other posts of CAT 
A drag queen that looks like a man wouldn't be much of a "queen". How come you are always talking about men dressing as a woman and you never have anything to say about a woman that dresses like a man? Does it make you uncomfortable? Do you secretly identify as a possible drag queen? Do you crossdress in the privacy of your home?
By phart at 20,Nov,23 23:24 other posts of phart 
No I don't do those things at home. Women don't seem to be as apt to dress as the other sex as often. Makes sense as they are more apt to get what they want in life being what they are and dressing like it.
By CAT at 21,Nov,23 14:23 other posts of CAT 
You just don't get it, do you? It's not to get ahead in life. It's a personal choice. It's not a sexual thing either. It's a feeling of being.
By phart at 21,Nov,23 14:27 other posts of phart 
If you wake up, you are "being'. no change required.
If you sadly don't wake up, well, you "were" and there is no longer a need to "be".
By CAT at 22,Nov,23 12:37 other posts of CAT 
If you wake up feeling like a woman and find that you have a ding-a-ling between your legs, then, what would you do?
By phart at 22,Nov,23 14:14 other posts of phart 
How would you know how a woman feels being a man?
What references are you using to interpret those feelings of being a woman? Never having a period,never giving birth,etc?
I have no idea what a woman feels like unless she tells me. And the way women like to speak in code,hints it is hard to figure out much.
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 16:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I agree with you that it is hard to understand.
I am born as a man, and I would never want to change that (permanently). It might be fun for two weeks, just between periods
and then please turn me back.

I'm sure that the feeling of being a woman is not limited to having periods and giving birth. Do you think that being a man is limited to having a dick and peeing while standing?

Would you choose to become a woman, given the choice, if it could be done painlessly in 10 seconds, by stepping into some machine?
If not, why not? Just for the bodily discomforts or other reasons?

By CAT at 22,Nov,23 17:48 other posts of CAT 
That’s the whole thing. A man that doesn’t feel or act like a man would feel uncomfortable acting like a man. This doesn’t mean he wants to be a woman either. He might want to be an “it”. However, if he has feelings and wants of a woman, then he would act on what he knows about women. Take the big one, he likes men in every sense of the word. He knows women dress in different clothes from a man. Women wear makeup. He doesn’t know how it feels to menstruate or be pregnant, be he does know about it. He knows he would like to experience those. From a small child he likes to crossdress, play with dolls, act in a feminine way. He will NEVER be a woman despite hormone treatments and surgery, but, it will bring him to a point he will consider himself a quasi-woman. As you can see, he doesn’t need to know how a woman feels. All he knows is he wants to be LIKE a woman. BTW, there are many women that don’t want to be pregnant or are unable to be pregnant. That takes away the childbirth experience. There’s women that for medical reasons don’t have periods either. For whatever it’s worth, my last menstruation was 31 yrs ago when, due to cancer, I had a complete hysterectomy. These reasons don’t stop a woman from being a woman nor are they the main metrics for defining what a woman is.
Like I keep saying, “You just don’t get it.”
Women do not speak in code. At most, a man needs to learn to LISTEN.
By phart at 22,Nov,23 23:11 other posts of phart 
You may not speak in code or hints but most every woman I know of does.
Typical conversation with my former girlfriend.
" Ok babe,where we eatin' tonight"? " I don't know?" "uh ok, well what about golden coral"? " I don't want to walk to get my food I just want a plate" Ok what about Jays>?" "to greasy I want something pasta".
"ok what about=== and this will go on for 20 munutes, and finally,when I pull in the parking lot of the only damn place in town that serves what she hasn't deleted from potential choices, " Oh well we ate here 3 weeks ago". then the shit starts over.
When a man ask, what do you want to eat, FUCKING TELL HIM> don't make a guessing game out of it.

By dgraff at 23,Nov,23 17:10 other posts of dgraff 
I would shoot my self before the womanly instinct takes full control there is already enough of you crazy bitches voicing your opinion with out me turning in to one yet to
By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Nov,23 14:40 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So clearly you identify as a man and that identity is something much more than just having a dick and peeing while standing.

And you also clearly agree that identifying as a woman is something different than having breasts and a vagina and having periods and having the ability to be pregnant.

That results in the existence of the feeling of being a man and the feeling of being a woman, that is separate from having the body of a man and having the body of a woman.

Science agrees with that; they found a specific part in the brain, that is shaped differently for people who feel that they are a man vs people who feel that they are a woman. That part in the brain is accurately consistent with the person's reported identity of man or woman, even when their identity is not consistent with the sex they are born with.

If you were born like that, you would commit suicide. That happens a lot actually, but there is a solution to prevent that; gender-affirming surgery.
By dgraff at 24,Nov,23 19:06 other posts of dgraff 
I would make a really ugly woman
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Nov,23 08:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's why gender-affirming care should start early.
If you were getting puberty-blockers, before your testosterone kicked in and then had gotten gender-affirming surgery when you were an adult, I'm sure you would have made a lovely girl.
By dgraff at 27,Nov,23 09:53 other posts of dgraff 
But there is my argument if this care should happen before puberty then I would think maybe the parents wanted a girl instead of a boy either way 12 is too young to make them kind of decisions
In my country you can drink alcohol at 21 you can smoke at 21
You can fight for your country at 18 and you can be tried in a court of law as an adult at 18 so why can you decide you are supposed to be a woman before you hit puberty makes absolutely no sense to me
By phart at 27,Nov,23 12:33 other posts of phart 
Exactly Dgraff, a 12 year old is NOT old enough or responsible enough to make body altering changes.
I to, would make 1 ugly ass woman if someone glued nails on my hands and put heels on my boots.
Body acceptance, it is being taught to fat people,ugly people ,the crippled, why not these gender confused people?

Ben sharpiro really ripped a transgender Emt a new 1 recently when he ask it if they got a call for a male having labor pains would they respond and it said no. "WHY?" he is having labor pains". it said, "he can not have labor pains,he is a male", SO Ben said if a male can't have labor pains then you are admitting there is a difference!" left that emt mumbling like a drunk!

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By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Nov,23 19:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your distrust for parents is stunning, there are no parents who would put their child through gender-affirming surgery, just because they wanted a boy instead of a girl or the other way around. That's a stupid idea. Even in the most conservative areas, there are transgender children. I'm sure they will blame everyone at first, but good parents at some point come to accept that their child is not crazy, but actually feels that they are the other sex. There are of course lots of stupid parents who drive their kids to suicide, but that the fault of your ignorant culture. There are even parents who kill their children for not accepting their religion.

If we leave it up to Republicans, little girls age 12 would be allowed to marry, kids who accidentally shoot a schoolmate with their fathers gun will get the death penalty, but no one would be mature enough to make decisions about their own body. Do you think it's sane to be allowed to kill and get killed at 18, but for smoking and drinking the age is 21? What nonsense. I would agree that children cannot make a choice to get gender-affirming surgery, but gender-affirming hormones are reversible. Not allowing them to have it, is taking away their decision for when they are older. And of course they are not making that decision by themselves on a Tuesday and getting the hormones on Wednesday, there's a long process of mental care associated with that.

Just because it doesn't make sense to you is no reason for you to keep it from people who do understand that their child requires it. People from your side of the political spectrum had that as a principle in the past. Now you just want to make decisions for everyone else.
By phart at 27,Nov,23 20:27 other posts of phart 
There is no understanding most of it.Even the purveyors of the nonsense can be shut down with a few questions.
No child is REQUIRED to change it's gender,that is a social construct that is being pushed thru the schools and media.

Ok so if parents want a perv in the family they can encourage their son to take drugs to keep him feminine until he is 18,then he can continue to take them till he is 40, then stop,and have his puberty and have the raging hormones and hard on's of a 18 year old at 47. Wow,that really makes sense.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Nov,23 21:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Nothing you say has any relation with reality.

Of course no child is REQUIRED to change it's gender, that would be stupid. They are just allowed to, if they are confirmed by specialists as a transgender, after many years of therapy.

There is no study that confirms your idea that delaying puberty until the age of 40 and then stopping, will give people raging hormones at that age. Why would anyone do that? The idea of puberty blockers is to make the gender-affirming surgery easier and more successful, when they are 18 or at the latest 21. You don't have to do a breast removal surgery for a trans-man, if puberty blockers suppressed the breast development. You don't end up with a trans-woman with a low manly voice, if puberty blockers suppressed the development of that low manly voice. Instead of looking like a man in a dress, a transgender will have the option to look like a Miss Netherlands. The only reason to deny that, is the wish to be cruel to those people.

That's what hormone blockers are intended for, not for men who want to be feminine. The large majority of teens who receive puberty blockers will go on to have their surgery. The number of people who regret it is very low, much lower than people who have non-gender related surgery.

There is no reason to think what you are thinking, except that it's the latest Republican culture war. They have nothing real to offer you, so they stir up outrage against a small group of already subjugated people. That's how extremist right-wingers always take power. They use hate to get votes from dumb people. And when they are in power, they destroy democracy. Hitler used the Jews for the same reason. Some people learn from history, some people don't.
By CAT at 27,Nov,23 22:23 other posts of CAT 
Your last paragraph says it all. The Dgraff‘s and Phart‘s of this world can’t see past their sordid little lives. Thinking out of the box scares the heck out of them. That’s why they get taken advantage by a con man and his cronies.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Nov,23 22:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Thinking out of the box is a rare skill, but thinking independently is the least that anyone should do. If people can tell you what you should think, then they will take advantage of you.

When they are telling you who you should fear or hate, that's when you know they don't have your interest in mind either.
People who hate people cannot to be trusted to love you.
They will drop you as soon as you don't serve any use to them.

By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 13:08 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If you think drag queens are 'sexualization',
than you are sexually attracted to them.
Don't mix your sexual insecurities with your opinion
on what's inappropriate for children.

By CAT at 27,Nov,23 01:18 other posts of CAT 
Dgraff, you posted in Bella!'s thread:
"It’s a crock of shit is what it is those police officers should not be in prison in the first place and for what doing there job and quite well i might add"

They murdered Floyd. He was a human being. Those officers were tried and convicted by a jury of their peers. They didn't get railroaded. One man did not act as their judge, jury , and executioner like they did with Floyd.
Floyd may not have been a good person, but he deserved his day in court.
If you are a prime example of what the MAGA crowd believes in, then, yes, we do need to scrub the USA clean of the scum.
By dgraff at 27,Nov,23 01:28 other posts of dgraff 
Floyd died of a drug overdose to much crack cocaine his heart exploded that’s why he couldn’t breathe they just convicted 4 white cops to make a good showing
By CAT at 27,Nov,23 02:05 other posts of CAT 
Bullshit. That's the type of trash talk you racists like us to believe, but a jury is a jury and no amount of 💩💩💩 can change that.
By dgraff at 27,Nov,23 09:27 other posts of dgraff 
So I guess you don’t believe that innocent people are found in jail
I believe they’re is a law firm that strictly handles cases like that
By CAT at 27,Nov,23 21:45 other posts of CAT 
I do believe there are innocent people in prison. That does not make Floyd’s killer innocent. He killed Floyd. Accept it.
By dgraff at 27,Nov,23 22:02 other posts of dgraff 
Accept it hell I honer the brave police officers that did their jobs and took out the garbage off the street we should have hundreds of officers just like them in every city
By CAT at 27,Nov,23 22:19 other posts of CAT 
Yes, I know your point of view. It’s very similar to what I wish about a lot of people too.

By Gntlmn at 27,Nov,23 05:27 other posts of Gntlmn 
You dumbshit. They weren't all "white". Keep sucking those trump turds.
By dgraff at 27,Nov,23 09:30 other posts of dgraff 
Yes they were the 2 that were black were wana be whites
By Gntlmn at 27,Nov,23 20:51 other posts of Gntlmn 
...well, if you say so

By CAT at 27,Nov,23 21:45 other posts of CAT 
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By phart at 27,Nov,23 12:49 other posts of phart 
I honestly hope this woman is joking.
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But Ben is right if she is telling the truth.
Can you imagine going to the litter box instead of the toilet to shit? Where does the toilet paper go? Do you walk into this persons house and trip over the liter box on your way in?

By phart at 25,Nov,23 16:56 other posts of phart 
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UM, has Marvin got his space modulator about ready??
By CAT at 26,Nov,23 22:20 other posts of CAT 
The British are coming?
By dgraff at 26,Nov,23 22:53 other posts of dgraff 
For what another ass kicking like they got the first time
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By phart at 27,Nov,23 04:41 other posts of phart 
In a cosmic ray?? This could really mess things up. I know the other day my gps speed was way off. I was doing 55 and it said 30.
and it was slow to show where i was to.
This type activity can affect electronics.

By phart at 20,Nov,23 18:36 other posts of phart 
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Nothing to see here,
By CAT at 20,Nov,23 22:41 other posts of CAT 
You are right. The watchdogs are doing their job. Those crooked justices have to go
By phart at 20,Nov,23 23:22 other posts of phart 
You didn't pay attention, dark money,most likely, as in george soro's money,is paying for people to dig up shit.
By CAT at 21,Nov,23 14:26 other posts of CAT 
I don't care who's money they use. If a Supreme Court Justice is crocked, it doesn't matter who brings it to the light. That's true for any judge or government official.
By phart at 21,Nov,23 14:32 other posts of phart 
Being a worse crook to try to frame someone is worse.
"Republicans, noting there were no laws at the time requiring disclosure of the travel, pushed back on allegations of impropriety."

""In fact, they are partisan propagandists doing the bidding of their left-wing billionaire donors, who have given these front groups the assignment of attacking the constitutionalist justices at all costs by manufacturing phony ethics scandals to undermine trust in the Supreme Court."

Your not being disturbed by this," bankrolled by progressive megadonor and philanthropist George Soros." is far worse than someone taking a trip on someone else's ticket. This is flat out crooked letting this soro's guy decide who can and who can't be on the supreme court .He is not a elected offical, he is a financial terrorist who has tried and probably succeeded in bankrupting 2 nations.
By CAT at 22,Nov,23 12:31 other posts of CAT 
BULLSHIT!!! Taking undisclosed favors from people that have business with the court has always been illegal. I don't care if Soros or Trump, or Freddy Krueger bring in the allegations. It's wrong and no amount of diverting the chat to some real or imagined left wing conspiracy will change that. It's not trying to frame someone if it's true.
BTW. Soros may be a billionaire but he's one of the biggest phylanthropist in the world. He tries to do good with his money.
By phart at 22,Nov,23 14:17 other posts of phart 
It's not his money,
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By CAT at 22,Nov,23 14:46 other posts of CAT 
Yes it is

By Ananas2xLekker at 24,Nov,23 14:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Dark money to Republicans is used to MAKE UP SHIT.
If they would actually DIG UP SHIT, I would agree.
But anytime they present any shit, it's fabricated nonsense.

Your supreme court new Ethics Code is toothless, it's a scam.
They can keep taking money and presents, without accountability.
Your supreme court is the last resort for justice in your country.
It should be completely free from even the appearance of a conflict of interest.

No one should be able to dig up anything on them, but they are clearly involved in lots of corruption. If you really cared about 'law and order', you would want those judges clean as a whistle, not be angry about people digging up shit about them.
By CAT at 24,Nov,23 22:16 other posts of CAT 
The era of Trump has eroded what integrity this country had.
By phart at 24,Nov,23 22:49 other posts of phart 
NO,it exposed the fact there was little to no integrity in this country before he got there.
By CAT at 25,Nov,23 14:50 other posts of CAT 
I thought I said that. Trump just exacerbated the situation to a untenable level.

By phart at 25,Nov,23 00:18 other posts of phart 
could this be the next big virus coming from china,just in time to fuck up the 2024 elections?
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By phart at 23,Nov,23 21:26 other posts of phart 
For those that still don't understand why most folks with common sense support israel instead of the terrorist, this pic should help explain it.
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Clue, note position of the baby carriage.

By CAT at 22,Nov,23 22:55 other posts of CAT 
DeSantis is, without doubt, the worst governor the state of Florida ever had.

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We’re tired of paying for Florida’s pointless fights over drag shows |

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis lost another round in court last week when the U.S. Supreme Court refused to reinstate the state’s anti-drag show law, on hold pending a court case. But you know who else lost? We did — the taxpayers of this state.

Because every time DeSantis uses our hard-earned taxpayer money to defend another one of his ill-conceived and self-serving laws — the ones he had hoped to ride all the way to the White House — that’s money and time the state won’t be spending on important issues that might do some actual good in the world. By the end of 2022, the state had spent at least $17 million in legal fees defending culture-wars laws, and the 2023 budget included almost $16 million just for litigation.


Meanwhile, real problems go begging for attention. Like fixing our insurance crisis so middle-class homeowners aren’t forced out of the state. Or helping us prepare for climate change so we don’t get swamped with every storm.

By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 14:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, also called the 5th Horseman of New Atheism, at one time,
now calls herself a Christian.
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Every reason that she provides for her 'conversion' is political.
She says nothing about her belief in Jesus' resurrection or other Christian claims.

Here's an analysis on her motives from an atheist philosopher:
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"... She is a brave person that has lead a very difficult life, and if she can find even a small measure of peace from Christianity, then I wish her nothing but the best."

"If I were a Christian, I would be deeply concerned with political conversions like this."
"Christianity has become so weak, that it not only excepts such conversions, but celebrates them."
"Personally, I think that Ali's conversion is a good sign..."
"... is perhaps the strongest sign of atheism winning in our time..."
"...The fact that Christians now embrace someone who explicitly states that she's a Christian for political reasons, demonstrates just how much Christianity has declined."
By CAT at 22,Nov,23 19:10 other posts of CAT 
Christianity, wow, I have so many mixed emotions and beliefs.
I do believe in a God. It doesn't make sense that there's not one.
As a Christian, I pray to Jesus, but, in periods of meditation, I
acknowledge that it's my way to put a name to that God. I also
know that I take comfort in believing there's more to my humanity
than some flesh and bones that got thrown together by some
whim of nature. Do I believe in Immaculate conception? I’d like to,
but, I can’t. Do I believe in the resurrection? That’s a tough one.
Why?Because, as a Christian, I believe that Jesus is the Son of
God, but no more than a good man and, perhaps, just that much more.
I believe there’s more to our being after death. I have to believe this.
I don’t believe in heaven or hell. Whatever comes after death is something
but……..what? I don’t know, God help me.
I understand how people need to believe they have a protector who
is responsible for being, but, I also believe that religion is responsible
for more pain and suffering, more death and injustice, than anything
or anyone else’s fault. No religion is blameless, certainly not Christianity.
What I really hate is how people push their views disguised as part of
their religion when, in reality, it’s no more than a self-serving agenda.
I’ve traveled in poor countries and one thing that screams at me that
religion is not as Godly as it claims to be, and in this case, Christianity,
is that in every poor village, the local priest is very well fed and prosperous
while the parishioners are poor and starving.
Anyway, I understand the deniability of a supreme being. I, personally, can’t
agree with that.
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 20:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
This was mostly a post about Ayaan 'converting' to Christianity.
I accept your beliefs to be honest and hart-felt and the result of soul searching.
But read her motivation for 'converting' from atheism to Christianity,
and then tell me that she has found God and Jesus, like a 'real' Christian.

I don't think that of Ayaan. I think she's grifting.
Her political ideas have never been in the same ballpark as the atheist community in the US. She was already a right-winger when she lived in The Netherlands. She tried to get a foothold in Dutch politics, but not enough people were interested in her. I think that's why she moved to the US. That's where an ex-Muslim can have a career in speaking.
However, there is a divide in your country where most conservatives and right-wingers associate themselves with Christianity, of a very conservative variety, and where atheists mostly associate themselves with liberals or lefties. Since she has made a career out of voicing her opinion, she needs an audience to make money. The audience for right-wing conservative atheists is too small, so she either needs to pander to the Christians to make a good living or be at least a liberal to be accepted among atheists. There is not much money in being a liberal speaker, unless she makes it to the few most successful ones. I think she has decided to become a right-wing grifter, where the real money can be made. An ex-Muslim new Christian can shoot up the ranks very quickly. If she's hired by The Daily Wire, she can make many millions per year very easily.

Even I, as an atheist, cannot deny that a supreme being is possible,
but there is no necessary pathway from that possibility to Christianity.
Even if I was convinced that the universe was created by such a supreme being,
I find the ideas in the bible, about that supreme being, very much offensive.
Even if I believed in a hell, I would consider accepting Christianity, as it is performed
in the US, a bigger assurance to end up in hell, than being a secular humanist.
Of course, I would not be an atheist, if I believed in a supreme being and hell.

By CAT at 14,Nov,23 15:14 other posts of CAT 
The Wall Street Journal

Inflation Cooled to 3.2% Last Month, Likely Ending Fed Rate Hikes

I guess Old Joe knows what he's doing.
By dgraff at 14,Nov,23 23:46 other posts of dgraff 
No one is worried about that at the moment
We are gearing up for world war three
I’ve been playing Black Sabbath
War pig’s all week long
By CAT at 15,Nov,23 00:17 other posts of CAT 
Short memories. A few weeks ago you couldn't shout enough about the economy. Now, since the economy is no longer a viable argument against Biden, you try to frighten us with WWIII.
By phart at 15,Nov,23 00:23 other posts of phart 
The inflation is cooling because shit aint selling and the prices are dropping to try to move shit before it has to be inventoried for tax purposes.
And ditto on WW3, we are fighting wars in syria, ukraine, and at home. At home it is a war of words, but this sudden anti jew stuff is going to come to gun fire and knives before long.What i have noticed is the transgender thing has took a back seat to the antijew thing.
By CAT at 17,Nov,23 17:26 other posts of CAT 
The inflation is cooling off because shit ain't selling? Hahaha 🤣. What do you think caused the inflation? Why do you think the Feds raised interest rates? Have you no idea as to the correlation between too much available money buying too much causing a shortage of product? It's the classic definition of the cause for inflation. Now the Feds have to be careful not to go overboard and create a recession. A little inflation is a good thing for the country.
It doesn't matter what party is in power, they way to fight excessive inflation or recession is the same.

By dgraff at 15,Nov,23 00:26 other posts of dgraff 
It’s a fact read the biblical signs it starts in the Middle East and just look what is going on there
I was working on my bunkers all weekend
By CAT at 17,Nov,23 17:27 other posts of CAT 
Good for you. When you are finished, walk inside, close the door and wait till the war is over. 🤣

By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Nov,23 10:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"biblical signs"
The bible predicted Jesus coming back in their lifetimes. They were 2000 years off.

Humanity is able to destroy humanity, but lets not do that over a bunch
of conservative Jews, who want to steal all the land for themselves,
from the other people who also lived there for millennia.
By phart at 20,Nov,23 14:58 other posts of phart 
You didn't watch the Ben Shaprio video I posted last week explaining that israel had alot of muslims living there without a problem. it is the hamas terrorist and the folks in gaza that voted them in as government that is the problem
By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 19:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
True, I didn't watch the Ben Shapiro video. And I told you why.
I only watch people who are honest. Even if they are wrong, I want them to believe their own words. Ben Shapiro doesn't believe his own words. I constantly notice that from all the fallacies he's using. They are too frequent and elaborate for someone who beliefs his own logic. It's just trickery to fool his audience.

He's correct that there Muslims living in Israel, but
what he's not correct about is that it is 'without a problem'.
Unlike the American constitution, Israel's laws are favoring Jews
over other religions. It's an apartheid state, even for those included Muslims.
And that says nothing about the Palestinians, who's houses and land have been stolen for decades. Did Ben Shapiro say anything about that?

By phart at 20,Nov,23 02:44 other posts of phart 
If you think you are having a bad day, just think of all the highly motivated individuals who died trying to climb mt everest.
Had they stayed home, they might still be alive instead of being frozen in time for someone to find in 1000 years and say, "wonder what this idiot was doing up here?"
By CAT at 20,Nov,23 22:40 other posts of CAT 
Yeah, but what a life they led. All the way till their deaIh
By phart at 20,Nov,23 23:22 other posts of phart 
Not much of 1 if you ask me. To look at a hill of dirt and decide 1 day to risk it all and wind up loosing it all for a view you can get with a drone?
By CAT at 21,Nov,23 14:24 other posts of CAT 
Again, you just don't get it.
By phart at 21,Nov,23 14:26 other posts of phart 
No, it's kinda like getting bit by a shark.if you don't go bustin' into his house,he won't think Door dash has delivered his lunch.
By CAT at 22,Nov,23 12:34 other posts of CAT 
And yet, literally, millions of people go swimming in the worlds oceans daily. Let me repeat myself. You just don't get it.

By phart at 21,Nov,23 14:36 other posts of phart 
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By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Nov,23 11:25 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What a load of bullshit. Soros is just a donor to the corporate democrats,
just like Republicans have lots of wealthy donors, who give to them to do their bidding.
If you don't like that, change back the rules of your corrupt system.
Politicians should listen to their voters, not to their donors.
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By phart at 19,Nov,23 03:38 other posts of phart 
Ai is the new thing! Should save millions in labor cost!
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By phart at 17,Nov,23 20:35 other posts of phart 
I am REALLY surprised leo or Ananas hasn't remarked about the reappearance of Osama's letter to America. In which he outlines exactly why he and his followers attacked America.
The 1 thing I noticed in the 2 page letter that really stood out to me was that he said they want us OUT OF the middle east and to leave so they wouldn't have to send us out as dead cargo.
I have often said we need to get the hell out if we aint gonna finish what we started and keep the land and oil. and his words proved that more than likely they wouldn't bother us any more if we were gone from there.
By CAT at 18,Nov,23 16:08 other posts of CAT 
So you are willing to have a bunch of terrorists dictate to the USA how it should conduct it's foreign policy. You want us to stop supporting Israel, a top allie, stop dealing with India and disavow our knowledge of some East Asia countries.
And you believe Iran would say, "We were wrong. That evil Devil, the USA, is really a friend and we should stop supporting terrorists that want to attack them." And, of course, every Osama Bin laden wannabe will send flowers to our funeral.
Well, if you support Trumpo and his fascist ideology, then, yeah. 👍💩💩💩🤣😈
By phart at 18,Nov,23 18:30 other posts of phart 
It is not something I am saying would actually happen. I am just saying,I have thought about it and wondered alot about if that would work. his words say it, but I doubt it would stick.
THis is a huge mess the world is in.And like you and others say about how other aspects of America aint working and we need to think outside the box,
who's to say 110% a different approach wouldn't bring about less hardship?

By phart at 15,Nov,23 18:02 other posts of phart 
Apparently being smart is not all that fun.
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Note it was his views on that got him in trouble.
smart people aint that smart ,I think he learned his lesson and hid his views behind fake names when he wrote books.
By WOODY58 at 16,Nov,23 23:56 other posts of WOODY58 
His parents did not allow him to have a regular childhood. That can't be remedied by a high IQ. Almost every child prodigy throughout history ended up with a mediocre adult life.
By phart at 17,Nov,23 13:57 other posts of phart 
when you are leaps and bounds smarter than everyone else around you, you are not going to have anormal childhood. things that arouse a childs attention would bore this poor kid to death. hand him a tricycle instead of a rocket ship and he would just look at you funny..
By WOODY58 at 17,Nov,23 16:13 other posts of WOODY58 
True 👍

By CAT at 14,Nov,23 15:35 other posts of CAT 
"I love it when a plan comes together". Remember The A Team?
First Pence drops out. Now Scott is out. Soon all will drop out and leave Trump to be the Repuckers nominee. Then, in October 2024, he will be found guilty of sedition and be removed from the ballot. They will be forced to nominate the Chicago Southside Dog Catcher to replace the Clown. We jump to Jan 20, 2025 at the inauguration of President Joe Biden for a second term.
I love it when a plan comes together. 🤣😈
By phart at 14,Nov,23 18:52 other posts of phart 
You might not want to open the champagne yet. I am saddened by Scott falling out, but not pence, he was a good man but did not have gonads for leadership. He would be a good secretary of state or something ,but not a "leader".
I was hoping if we couldn't have Trump, we would have a Scott Ramaswamy ticket. Then the republicans could get 2 trophys out of the way and have some common sense leadership and folks that understand what being a American means.Unlike joe that thinks getting money from the chinks and the ukraine is a good thing.
By CAT at 15,Nov,23 00:40 other posts of CAT 
Your last sentence doesn't fly.
By phart at 15,Nov,23 00:56 other posts of phart 
Not meant to fly ,it is meant to land in your eyes and perhaps if you do some research, land in your ears and then on to your hippocampus and amygdala
By CAT at 15,Nov,23 11:50 other posts of CAT 
My prefrontal corteX tells me you are trying to make wishful thinking into a factual event(s). Nice try won't fly.
By phart at 15,Nov,23 12:41 other posts of phart 
In your case it doesn't need wings,it needs a carbide drill bit to get thru your head!
By CAT at 15,Nov,23 17:29 other posts of CAT 
That drill has to be made with proof. Show me the VERIFIABLE proof.

By Gntlmn at 14,Nov,23 20:25 other posts of Gntlmn 
✔️I just heard the dumbshit trump analinguists are elbowing each other in the back, in the House of Representatives!

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By phart at 11,Nov,23 14:56 other posts of phart 
here is israels real chance at the war ending
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By CAT at 08,Nov,23 13:12 other posts of CAT 
SherryAnn, you posted on Bella!'s thread:
"I'd love to know & hear what cat & ananas think of the mass shooter Trans person who killed all the White Christians & bragged about it calling them "crackers" "white privilege " in his/her/its manifesto. It is clear the person hated whites and targeted them specifically. I don't wanna argue or debate, just wondering if anyone heard about it and have the heart to say and acknowledge this person was someone who hated white people"
You don’t give me much to say. You couched your request in a way that I’d have to agree with everything you’ve said or sound like I don’t have “heart”. Here goes.
Any person that commits murder without cause (self-protection) is an evil person. A mass shooter is evil no matter if he/she is black, white, gay, straight, transgender, or any other ethnic-like definition.
I, and notice the “I”, can’t address your premise that this person (and he is a person no matter what gender he/she identifies himself as) hates white/black or any other race. After all, he shot up a Christian school. Maybe he hated nuns or wayward priests or pastors. The only thing I can say is that this person, like any person who commits murder, had a deficient mind. In other words, he was mentally unstable. This, in no way, would it excuse this action and, if he had survived, should not have stopped for the police to charge him for the crime.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 13:45 other posts of phart 
What else would there have been to say?
You yourself admitted that trans people are mentally ill.
This 1 decided to kill people because their parents gave them Mustangs and convertibles instead of mopeds? rather lame reason to kill innocent young people just because their parents can afford to be good to them.
By CAT at 08,Nov,23 13:55 other posts of CAT 
I never said that. All I’ve said is that a transvestite feels that they are trapped in a body that is the wrong gender to what they feel they are. That is not mental illness.
What drove this individual to do what he did did has nothing to do with being transgender. That THIS transgender was deranged and killed innocent people is strictly a personal thing. Don’t blame being transgender for it.
You can’t accept that transgenders are a minute but normal part of humanity. They are as normal as you or me except for this need to be of the opposite sex, and that’s a NEED. The problem is you, not them.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 17:56 other posts of phart 
Whoa whoa now, this site does not have a search engine but i do know at least twice your words were that trans people have a mental illness were crystal clear.
It is not a need,it is a issue,just like schizophrenia or mental retardation
Now be honest, if a trans was not able to get treatment,and they ate and slept and functioned as a human is supposed to,they would get along just fine with whatever is hanging between their legs. it is a want to have yourself cut apart and sewn up like a raggdy ann doll.
By sherryann at 08,Nov,23 23:50 other posts of sherryann 
Hi cat, I couldn't agree more, it doesn't matter if they're white or non white they're all evil for murdering other people. I don't care if the shooter is white, in my book they should be held accountable as should any other race.
The reason I said what I said, (and believe me, I don't care if it is a Trans person, they killed people!) is because he called them crackers who had white privilege among other stuff he disliked, so he shot and killed them. Lots of whites hate other whites, I live among them, they're really deluded. And cat, I swear to you, whites like this are waaaay worse than any other race. Thanks for your input.

By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 22:40 other posts of dgraff 
Your only repeating what you heard or looked up but let me tell you I lived with a cross dresser for over a year and believe me they have a dark side he was constantly talking about suicide and how he would do it so I say he was mentally unstable i was afraid to go anywhere and leave him at home i was so glad when he told me he was moving back to his mothers house
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 23:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you think it would have been better for him, if he was forced to suppress his sexuality that urged him to do cross dressing?
Or do you think he would be more happy in a culture where it's fully accepted?
By dgraff at 10,Nov,23 10:00 other posts of dgraff 
He would have been better off in a padded room were he couldn’t hurt himself or anyone else those were early warning signs and he needed help

By CAT at 10,Nov,23 00:53 other posts of CAT 
I'm not doubting you. I also know of a straight guy who tried to kill his wife and two kids before he committed suicide. The wife and kids are my daughter and grandkids. We hid them because we learned he was looking for them. All the cops did was tell us to call 911 if he showed up. The son of a bitch is dead.
Now, are you going to tell me all straight guys have a dark side with an intent to kill? This piece of trash lived in my house for months and he was married to my daughter for over six years.
You and Phart and many others take one incident and make it a rule just because you don't like the lifestyle, sex orientation, or race and/or ethnicity. It offends your concervative, macho (sic), racist, religious, being. Well, it's not like that.
By phart at 10,Nov,23 03:01 other posts of phart 
if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, it might be a duck.
If someone has a issue that is obvious, then there are issues we can't see more than likely.
By CAT at 10,Nov,23 12:49 other posts of CAT 
Phart, that's a false assumption. It is not more than likely.

By dgraff at 10,Nov,23 10:06 other posts of dgraff 
I’m just saying nut jobs come in all shapes and sizes and are a threat to people I seen the early warning signs and I should have done something about it but instead chose to pawn him off on his mother and although he has not snapped yet I’m sure that he will sooner or later
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The first sign was that he wanted to be a woman now what man in his right mind wants to be a woman
By CAT at 10,Nov,23 12:53 other posts of CAT 
That Dgraff is also a false assumption. As I see it, any man that likes it up the ass, at the very least, while getting ass fucked, wants to be a woman.
By dgraff at 10,Nov,23 16:41 other posts of dgraff 
I still don’t agree with that I’m currently living with a woman and her 22 year old daughter and their is no way I would want to be a woman you girls bring to much baggage 🧳 to the table with your woman problems and all the things that come with it ain’t no way I would want to be a woman
My bathroom is a wreck with 20 different hair products frilly things hanging on the shower knobs and I can’t find anything in my kitchen any more but I guess it’s the price I pay for not wanting to live alone anymore
By CAT at 10,Nov,23 19:07 other posts of CAT 
Boohoo but it doesn't change anything. The discussion is the mental stability of a transgender and your premise is false. Women do have baggage but so do men. For every feminized bathroom, I can show you a man cave garage or shed, dirty shorts on the floor or greasy hands on the wall

By Mongo at 10,Nov,23 20:09 other posts of Mongo 
Did my Step Daddy WOODY58 feel like a girl when my Daddy Gerome (spelt with a G not a J) used to fuck him in the bum with his big black dick.

I'm a bit retarded from my difficult birth all those years ago Mammy, so I'm a little confused, is Charlie a boy or a girl
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By Mongo at 10,Nov,23 10:56 other posts of Mongo 
I have been trolling this tread & more importantly this conversation for a few days now & wanted to come out & have a little say.

I actually feel moved by your story CAT , although in my life I have not had such extreme things happen, but certainly of similar tone.

I guess the moral of the stories told here in this conversation, is a wack job, is a wack job 🤷‍♀️
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I would also like to mention Sandy, thank you for sharing your story
By CAT at 10,Nov,23 13:00 other posts of CAT 
Mongo you've got nerve posting here. You are moved? May I suggest getting to a toilet? Read all you want. I can't stop you, but, keep out otherwise. I don't care for you in any way.
By phart at 10,Nov,23 23:54 other posts of phart 
Mongo like candy
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By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Nov,23 11:58 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Kermit the Frog - Clean Up Your Room (Jordan Peterson)
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By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Nov,23 11:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
David Cross: Why America Sucks at Everything
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I found it through this guy, Nate Lawson, reacting to it:
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By phart at 08,Nov,23 00:15 other posts of phart 
If Adam and Eve were Cajuns they would have eaten the snake instead of the apple and saved us all a lot of trouble.
By CAT at 08,Nov,23 13:15 other posts of CAT 
Sure but then we would not have known any knowledge. Just think, mankind going around with a fig leaf hiding his meddler regions and foraging for food in the open fields.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 13:39 other posts of phart 
but,we would not have global warming,we would not have war,we would not have aids,we would not have,fill in the blank.
We would be naked and looking for food all the time to fight,no time to get confused about our gender,the position of our fig leaves would make it obvious and so on.
Just think,nothing to complain about!
By CAT at 08,Nov,23 13:57 other posts of CAT 
I’m surprised at you. You claim you are closer to nature than us left wing city slickers and, yet, you ignore the fact that as hunter/gatherers, humanity would have had to constantly fight for survival.
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I see you admit global warming exists.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 17:49 other posts of phart 
Of course it exist ,in the minds of liberals.
BUT if there were no liberals or conservatives ,there would be none of these theory's because no one would be "smart" enough.
What's wrong with scrounging for food?If everyone is busy scrounging for food, there wouldn't be any george floyd protest or people glueing themselves to vegetable oil tankers in europe.
By CAT at 09,Nov,23 13:37 other posts of CAT 
Come on, Phart. Get real. You want to live like that? Doesn’t the modern world have any good stuff to make you happy to be living in it? If not, then I would suggest you sell everything and move in with one of these societies.

Hunter-gatherer societies are still found across the world, from the Inuit who hunt for walrus on the frozen ice of the Arctic, to the Ayoreo armadillo hunters of the dry South American Chaco, the Awб of Amazonia's rainforests and the reindeer herders of Siberia. Today, however, their lives are in danger.

Note that last sentence.
By phart at 09,Nov,23 14:53 other posts of phart 
Well if we didn't ever start having these high tech life styles we would have never known the difference. Our happiness would be simple, wow,some fresh berries!, later,"oh my,wrong berries,now I have shits". With all this high tech, we have ALOT of problems.
Never said I wanted to live being a hunter-gatherer,was just saying it would be a MUCH easier lifestyle if we never knew any different.

By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 19:11 other posts of dgraff 
Oh what a wonderful life that would be
No government
No cars
No nothing
Just a bunch of half naked people running around
I’m all for it we’re do i sign up
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 20:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm not cut out to be a caveman, I like civilization.
I like playing survival games on my PC, not in real life.

That's why I support cooperation and solidarity.
It's how humans created this great civilization
and the only way to keep civilization going is more of it, not less.
By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 22:15 other posts of dgraff 
I could be a cave man just fine and with my size and strength I bet I would have been a leader i may have even invented the wheel 🛞
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 23:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm a big guy (6.2) and IF I need to be strong to survive, I can put on muscle pretty fast. I can do it, if I have to, I just don't like it. I didn't study for 10 years, to have society collapse and see my nice cushy job go to waste.

The leaders didn't invent the wheel, that was the short scrawny guy, who was useless for hunting mammoths and sabre-tooth tigers. He had to make himself useful in other ways, like inventing stuff, setting their broken legs, relieving the pain with his 'herbs', making cave paintings about their heroic hunts and telling stories about it.
It's the scientists, doctors and artists who have always progressed humanity.
The leaders mostly get in the way, by starting wars and suppressing ideas.

By CAT at 06,Nov,23 14:50 other posts of CAT 
Dgraff just posted this:

“ If I was as miserable and ugly to everyone as you are I’m sure I would have shot my self by now
Oh I’m sorry you liberals are against guns
Well how do you feel about slicing your wrists
Use a new razor blade so you bleed out quickly”

This does not sound appropriate. I know the forums can be wild, but this is over the top.
By phart at 06,Nov,23 15:06 other posts of phart 
Be sure to copy and paste the response to that,I think it was worse
By CAT at 06,Nov,23 15:09 other posts of CAT 
And then Strakar answered:

“Hopefully the next mass shooting occurs where you and your family are and every one of your family members is shot and killed. But worthless old you live on.”

And that is even worse. Admin, what is going on with some members?
By dgraff at 06,Nov,23 15:33 other posts of dgraff 
It’s settled he black listed me this morning
Now I don’t have to see his bull shit
You know he was a member years ago I’m guessing 10 years ago because he knows skittles name so I’m guessing he was with John spooner’s possy but anyway his soul purpose of being here is revenge

By phart at 06,Nov,23 19:02 other posts of phart 
I am regarded as a bad person by leo and others here but I hope I am not such a miserable person that i would wish that on anyone. I even want the likes of leo to live long and prosper, just far far away from me.
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By dgraff at 06,Nov,23 22:17 other posts of dgraff 
Just call him cupcake he loves that name
By phart at 06,Nov,23 23:50 other posts of phart 
I can't call him anything ,he black listed me.
you know, frankly, I have blacklisted people, mostly if they black list me to even the score or because something about them just annoys me.But not because of something they say
By dgraff at 06,Nov,23 23:56 other posts of dgraff 
Who did straker or Leo
By phart at 07,Nov,23 00:54 other posts of phart 
straker, leo hasn't blacklisted me yet.
By dgraff at 07,Nov,23 01:01 other posts of dgraff 
Leo black listed me years ago he wanted to suck my dick and I declined so he got mad and black listed me

By Ananas2xLekker at 07,Nov,23 09:47 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That Strakar person probably thinks that mass shootings can be prevented or stopped by a 'good guy with a gun'. While even the police are now too afraid to act during a mass shooting, that is completely delusional.

The US surpasses 500 mass shootings for 2023 in september.
How many of them were stopped by a 'good guy with a gun'?
By phart at 07,Nov,23 11:21 other posts of phart 
Uh, how many were stopped by a cop with a gun?
A cop with a gun is about to the point of being useless. to much red tape every time he try's to use it, not to mention lawsuits and etc.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 19:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I'm talking about your reason for CITIZENS to have guns,
which is your 'good guy with a gun' fantasy.

You are just including cops in the argument, because you know
that the 'good guy with a gun' fantasy doesn't hold true.

If only the cops have guns, they wouldn't need to stop any mass shooters.

By dgraff at 07,Nov,23 11:45 other posts of dgraff 
strakar is a bitter old man and as anti government as ever i seen he votes for whoever he thinks will destroy America the quickest
My advice is to stay away from this guy his only mission on this site is revenge for things that happened 10 years ago
By phart at 07,Nov,23 15:26 other posts of phart 
revenge is a 2 edge sword so he best tread lightly
By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 21:58 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah I agree

By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 20:03 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"bitter old man and as anti government as ever i seen he votes for whoever he thinks will destroy America the quickest"

That describes you and phart and tecsan (except 'old') too.

Although it depends on your definition of America; if it's the one described in the Constitution and the amendments, then you are surely voting for the people who support destroying it the most. If you understood what they are planning for as soon as they win the next election.....
By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 22:06 other posts of dgraff 
Yeah sure anal licker what ever you say
I want lower prices on everything just like they were when trump was in office and don’t give me a bunch of graphs 📈 and google look ups it was just as bad when Obama in office
None of the other bull shit matters to me
Lower the god damn prices

By Gntlmn at 06,Nov,23 21:07 other posts of Gntlmn 
He's got Nazi diarrhea for brains.
By dgraff at 06,Nov,23 21:25 other posts of dgraff 
If I wanted your 2 cents I would have squeezed your head until they dropped out of your ass
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By phart at 07,Nov,23 18:08 other posts of phart 
Number of members who befriended strakar: 9
Number of members who blacklisted strakar: 2 (Why?)
Number of members whom strakar has blacklisted: 4

By CAT at 07,Nov,23 14:12 other posts of CAT 
Looks like@Bella@!@ is out enjoying the warm weather or an alligator ate her.
By phart at 07,Nov,23 15:26 other posts of phart 
Uh, i hope a alligator didn't get her, I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy, because it would not be a swift end!
By CAT at 07,Nov,23 16:40 other posts of CAT 
Nor would I. I'm commenting on her lack of participation here.
By phart at 07,Nov,23 18:03 other posts of phart 
probably sick of the drama. it is getting stupid.
By dgraff at 09,Nov,23 19:06 other posts of dgraff 
She’s ok I’ve spoken to her but if she wants everyone to know i will let her tell everyone why she is among the missing

By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Nov,23 18:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
American Reacts to Amazing Dutch Police Escort for Ambulance
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By phart at 09,Nov,23 17:30 other posts of phart 
The steps on the great wall of china is what i found amazing,

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By CAT at 08,Nov,23 14:15 other posts of CAT 
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Ohio voters approved a constitutional amendment on Tuesday that ensures access to abortion and other forms of reproductive health care, the latest victory for abortion rights supporters since the U.S. Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade last year.

Ohio became the seventh state where voters decided to protect abortion access after the landmark ruling and was the only state to consider a statewide abortion rights question this year.

“The future is bright, and tonight we can celebrate this win for bodily autonomy and reproductive rights,” Lauren Blauvelt, co-chair of Ohioans United for Reproductive Rights, which led support for the amendment, told a jubilant crowd of supporters.

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Hey, you DUMBASSES in the Supreme Court, you said that abortion is a state issue. Well, 7 states have listened and acted to let women reclaim their bodies. Fuck you and stay out of OUR vaginas.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 17:51 other posts of phart 
well see, now liberals that think it is ok to kill babies can move to those 7 states and get a baby sucked out of their gut on the way to starbucks. And then post on social media about how terrible it is to bake a baby in the oven. as if what they just did is so different.

By CAT at 08,Nov,23 14:25 other posts of CAT 
Phart, you posted about FACEBOOK:
“ Yea, people post a photo of their eggs and bacon and such. i am surprised they don't post a pic of their big turd in the toilet with a measuring tape beside it. People don't need to ,nor do they want to know EVERY aspect of your life.”

Maybe you are not familiar what FACEBOOK is about but it’s exactly what you’ve just described. It’s interaction with your circle of people that share your life. I’m surprised that you ignore the fact that if you don’t like someone’s postings, you can ignore them or refuse postings from that person or institution. Member pages are personal and for the enjoyment of whomever that person wants his/her info to go to. Many things can be and are set to the general public, but, why you would complain I just can’t understand. It’s like radio or TV, if you don’t like the program, change the channel.
By phart at 08,Nov,23 17:50 other posts of phart 
It was a joke i saw somewhere else and copied and pasted it

By phart at 07,Nov,23 18:19 other posts of phart 
These idiots tried to rob the wrong guy!
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By phart at 06,Nov,23 01:45 other posts of phart 
Leo, This earth is on the brink of a world war.
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So I say unto you, come up with some bright ideas and fast,or YOU won't be any safer where you are than anyone anywhere else.

By leopoldij at 02,Nov,23 17:23 other posts of leopoldij 
A very important op ed article

By Megan K. Stack

Getting bombed from the sky is a particular horror: The sense that death hangs quite literally over your head, invisible until it’s too late, and maybe it will hit you. Maybe this moment. Or this. Or this. Every heartbeat hammering through your skull.

I’ve watched U.S. warplanes attack Afghanistan; barely escaped a direct strike from a Russian MiG in Georgia, and lived for weeks under relentless Israeli bombardment in Lebanon.

The images from Gaza bring back memories I usually keep buried. The thunder of the bombs, drifts of broken glass and twisted rebar where houses and shops once stood, dust and the smell of blood mixing in the throat. Very small bodies, and very old bodies. The rage of a funeral under bombs in Lebanon, a hospital truck and a trench for a mass grave, planes still in the sky, women keening, praying for souls and revenge.

As bad as that was, Gaza is incalculably worse. I have never experienced the merciless pace of airstrikes and death now being suffered by the people of Gaza — people who did not travel to a war zone as foreign reporters, but who are getting attacked at home, with their children and grandparents. People who already lived under blockade, and never had any real possibility of escape.

White House officials have said a cease-fire only benefits Hamas; that even to ask for the bombing to stop is “disgraceful” and “repugnant.” I find myself thinking that, had these officials ever experienced even one day under bombardment and shelling, they could not so blithely, so unambiguously, defend this nightmarish attack on Gaza.

Israel has so far killed more than 8,000 people, the Gaza Health Ministry said, more than 40 percent of them children. The ministry, having no doubt heard President Biden suggesting they could be lying about their casualties, released a registry of the dead — page after page of names, dozens of members of the same family.

It was clear from the start, in the earliest hours after Hamas slaughtered and kidnapped Israeli civilians, that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel had no mercy in mind for Gaza. “All of the places which Hamas is deployed, hiding and operating in, that wicked city, we will turn them into rubble,” he said.

If the people of Gaza are just a political abstraction, perhaps it’s easier to tell yourself that the killing of their children is sad but unavoidable — an unintended and ultimately forgivable consequence of a nation’s righteous pursuit of self-defense.

But having spent time under bombardment, and having reported in Gaza, I have no time for these explanations. If diplomacy and international relations can acquiesce to this kind of war, then what is the point of diplomacy and international relations? What outcome does this strategy avert that would be worse than the outcome it has already created?

But they say we should not call for a cease-fire.

The atrocities committed by Hamas against Israeli civilians on Oct. 7 were shocking and evil. The vicious attack, which killed more Jews in a single day than any day since the Holocaust, cries out for an answer.
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Killing the children of Gaza, however, is not the answer.

If we are to believe the Israeli political and military leadership’s own words — and I think we should — the assault on Gaza was driven, first, by straightforward vengeance.

“You wanted hell, you will get hell,” Maj. Gen. Ghassan Alian of the Israel Defense Forces warned the residents of Gaza, whom he referred to as “human beasts.”

Israel’s minister of strategic affairs, Ron Dermer, declared that Israel would “do whatever we have to do” to send a message.

“Gaza won’t return to what it was before,” Defense Minister Yoav Gallant said. “We will eliminate everything.”

Mass slaughter is immoral, of course, but — making it even more tragic — it also doesn’t work. Quite the opposite.

Looking at pictures of the ominous lunar landscapes of bomb-crushed Gazan blocks, I see the birth of a new generation of fighters. Or terrorists, if you like — I don’t see why it matters very much. The children who survive this onslaught will grow even more radicalized and traumatized than the generations who came before.

Palestinian violence is rooted in the political grievance of generations of Palestinians, whose lives are defined by open-ended military occupation. They have no state to call their own, their basic rights are systematically curtailed and the world has given them little reason to anticipate better days. Palestinian political violence is older than Hamas, extends beyond Hamas across society, and will surely outlive Hamas in the absence of a political solution.

Israel knows this. Israel has bombed Gaza pitilessly before, but Hamas is still there. Israel turned parts of southern Lebanon to rubble, but Hezbollah is still there.

As Americans, we too should have learned this lesson over and over again. All the military might of the United States could not defeat the ragtag bands of Taliban or force a nation of conquered Iraqis to accept a U.S. occupation. Maybe we don’t want to understand.

But they say we can’t call for a cease-fire.

I have eaten in Gaza, laughed there, slept there, seen the sea there. I can’t match my memories to the strange depictions I see on the news of an irreal and uncivilized place inconveniently built atop a nest of terrorist tunnels.

Gaza is a real place crammed full of real people. Indefatigable people, annoying people, hilarious people, duplicitous people, all the usual types of people. Lots and lots of children, so many kids you sometimes waded through them in the streets, scrambling and touching and hollering, tugging on your clothes, slipping hands into pockets. The children of Gaza, I won’t lie, were often a nuisance. But a beautiful nuisance, an untamed burst of irrepressible life in harsh circumstances.

I imagine Gaza now, how it must be. I know that it must be like hell, like a hallucination, like time itself is stretched and stuck. I know at such times there is only one coherent thought: Stop the bombs. I was in southern Lebanon in 2006, when Israel bombed medical teams and fleeing civilians and villages filled with people too old or disabled to get away, and what I remember now is the pain of knowing that the rest of the world was flowing along as usual. Knowing they could stop the bombs, but chose not to. Not just yet; a little more death first.

I can still feel the rage that surged — in the people who were around me and within my own mind — against a powerful nation that would kill like that, from a distance.

To be honest, I feel that I have now crossed to the wrong side of things. Now I sit clean and safe in America while far away the bombs fall.

Before I went to Israel, an editor tried to convince me it was a bad idea. “You’re a writer, and you like to choose pretty words,” the editor said. “In Jerusalem you can’t use the pretty words. You have to use the careful words.” The editor was right. Writing about Israel is full of careful words and careless killing. We nitpick every last point until no reader can decipher what we’re saying anymore. Now we say the death tolls are not true. How do we know? Things are happening — what things? We could find out with a cease-fire, but they say we can’t ask for a cease-fire.

And here we are, watching the cycle spin around again, pretending to think it might have a different result this time. Like it’s all just a game with improbable but not impossible odds.

We give Israel money to pay for the weapons. Then we give Palestinians money to pay for the damage done by those weapons. We keep doing the same things, repeating the same lines, but the violence just gets worse.
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By phart at 02,Nov,23 21:53 other posts of phart 
Notice in that entire read there is no offering of any alternative to the violence? I knwo the death is bad,we all do, but how else do you end it???I have yet to read a solution from you either Leo. And Hamas's solution is to kill all israelies, so why is that any better than killing all hamas??
There is no solution offered in the story because at this time there is none.
Who will grow up to be terrorist if they are all gone?
It would be like doing cancer surgery and only removing half of it. I am sorry people are dying,The people chose hamas over civilazation, they chose to let hamas build their tunnels,under hospitals. Did they not realize there would be a day that would come back on them?supporting a enemy of Israel? but hamas started it ,and right or wrong,it is time for Israel to end it, for good.
By leopoldij at 04,Nov,23 21:57 other posts of leopoldij 
You're not a human being.
You're a fascist, and hence a pig.
You understand nothing at all.
You only blindly believe in the
shit you hear in your fascist sources.

A person like you doesn't have
the right to exist.

The answer to terrorism is not

In the אױפֿשטאַנד אין װאַרשעװער געטאָ,
the Nazis did exactly the same
thing to the Galicia Jews that
the Israelis are now doing to
the Philistines. Of course, you
know nothing about the 1947-1948
annihilation either.
Not because you're stoopid
but because you're a fascist piece
of shit, not a human, not even an
animal but someone who, as I said,
shouldn't exist.

Unfortunately, there are millions
like you in your gunland, you
make the adjective american
equivalent, or even worse, to
uncouth unthinking uncivilised
monster. But, fortunately, your
country still has many more
millions of citizens who
have nothing to do with you
and who can both apply elementary
logic and possess some empathy.
By phart at 05,Nov,23 00:54 other posts of phart 
Notice that for all to see, You continue to offer no solutions to the actual problems at hand, only more criticism of me, just because I happen to speak my mind instead of sitting in the shadows.
the reason for that is you are as much of the problem if not more so than myself or millions of other people. You waste your breath and time and effort talking shit about other people as if you are doing a great service. But you are only exposing your hypocrisy for all to see. Keep on Leo, you are the elephant in the room, the real monster.
According to 1 person that black listed you, you are this,
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Is this something that is true and you are proud of it or is this a lie?

How can you expect israel to seperate hamas from innocents when hamas hides under hospitals?
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By leopoldij at 05,Nov,23 01:47 other posts of leopoldij 
FYI I'm Jewish.
By phart at 05,Nov,23 01:59 other posts of phart 
That was unexpected.
I would have thought you were atheist
So is a 2 state solution best for israel or ?

By CAT at 05,Nov,23 14:58 other posts of CAT 
Leo, I understand what you are saying, but, that doesn’t mean I agree. First, let me address the “vengeance” part. Whatever the reasons Hamas quotes for this brutal attack, one that is condemned by the World Court, it’s not good enough an excuse to eliminate over 1500 Israelн lives or 9500+ Palestinian lives. Hamas lost the right to exist just like Nazi Germany did. And not because it’s a Jewish/Palestinian thing, but, because of the inhumanity of it NOW. You are right about the history and I’m happy your humanity feels so much for the dying and dead. I also see Phart’s point. In this case, this being one where lives, on both sides, children on both sides, are losing their lives, insults, name calling, and innuendos, don’t cut it.
I’m Orthodox Catholic, but, I have to remember that my Savior was a Jew and He, too would condemn this and any other war, no matter the reasons. Having said that, I believe that Hamas has to be eradicated now and for ever and that the cost in human lives will be appallingly high. Yet, in this case, I have to side with Phart. Heaven, if it exists, forgive me.
By phart at 05,Nov,23 16:09 other posts of phart 
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Rocket launchers in play grounds? Does that sound like hamas cares about kids?

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By phart at 03,Nov,23 14:26 other posts of phart 
Leo, I am sorry but after reading this, what little bit of give a damn i had left for gaza and hamas is GONE.
Hamas BAKED babies in ovens, cut them from the mothers wombs.
Only monsters that need to be destroyed would do anything similar.
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By CAT at 04,Nov,23 16:53 other posts of CAT 
I just got sick reading your post, Phart. It looks like that’s the case. I just can’t believe anyone could be so heartless, so depraved. If it turns out to be true, then, Hamas has no business being on this Earth.
By phart at 04,Nov,23 18:30 other posts of phart 
I think that is why they are trying to get this truth out there,so much miss information. and Hamas has it's own propaganda machine that folks like Leo would fall for hook line and sinker.Hamas,hasbrola and all those terrorist groups,may hide in caves,but they are not stupid. They sit back and watch and learn how to manipulate people.
By CAT at 04,Nov,23 21:57 other posts of CAT 
That I knew. Why children?
By phart at 05,Nov,23 01:02 other posts of phart 
Because most of us value the life of a child, so they kill them to cause us more anguish. Terrorist ,that is what they do, create anguish.
The hamas terrorist use children for shields because they know most folks won't kill a child willingly. They hide behind them so when they are killed, children die and create more of that anguish.
You know alot of our soldiers came back with ptsd from wars because of what they saw done to children, folks such as my uncle in 'nam. imagine what the folks in Israel are dealing with opening a oven to find a burned baby with the heating element stuck to it's body.
Leo will spend all night trying to find more words to use to insult me with but he has yet to come up with a appropriate response to something like this.
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Leo says I am a animal for wanting this to stop even though it requires violence. Strange man.
Being humane will only expose weakness and get more Israelis killed.

By phart at 30,Oct,23 13:13 other posts of phart 
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noun: enigma; plural noun: enigmas

a person or thing that is mysterious, puzzling, or difficult to understand.
By CAT at 31,Oct,23 00:16 other posts of CAT 

By leopoldij at 04,Nov,23 22:55 other posts of leopoldij 
An even more correct plural of the noun enigma is enigmata.

By CAT at 04,Nov,23 17:09 other posts of CAT 
To paraphrase:

Daylight Savings Time,
What good is it?
Absolutely nothing.

Here I go. Can’t sleep right. Meals will feel strange. I’ll get cranky (crankier )
We, Floridians, voted for elimination. Nothing yet. I blame DeSantis and Disney.
By phart at 04,Nov,23 18:28 other posts of phart 
I am all for Eastern Standard Time.
Central standard time,and etc
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