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By CAT-2 at 07,May,24 14:44 other posts of CAT-2 
I’ve been referring to a certain individual as “The Clown”. I’m now changing the way I refer to this individual. From now on he’s “Mr Von Shitzinpants”. 🤣🤣😈
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You win, Sir-Skittles. You, your family, and your friends, are little more than cow shit. I’m leaving the site. You are a troll, just like your fellow members. 💩💩
By Gntlmn at 07,May,24 20:50 other posts of Gntlmn 
The diplomatic name for "Putin's analinguist"

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where did all the posts go here?



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By CAT-2 at 23,Apr,24 13:08 other posts of CAT-2 
What Actually Controls The Price Of Gas In The US?
Carolyn Osorio

Between keyboard warriors and comments sections, you might have noticed conflicting (and sometimes even downright incorrect) information about how, exactly, gas prices work in America today. While some popular opinions involve blaming whatever the current administration is for increases in gas prices, the issue is far more complicated than any singular person or even any singular government. In fact, the Energy Information Administration identifies four major factors that directly correlate to the cost of gas (and none of them are the president). These factors are crude oil prices (which are set by oil-producing countries), refining costs (which are increasingly impacted by natural disasters and climate change), distribution and marketing costs (which depend on the individual retailer you purchase gas from), and taxes (federal, state, and local taxes and fees).
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By phart at 23,Apr,24 17:57 other posts of phart 
thank you
Ok, 1, crude oil prices set by producing countries.
IF we were able to use our own oil, we could set the price of our own oil and not be affected by other countries.
2, refining cost, are directly linked to climate change prompted regulations as well.
Distribution and marketing, if if gas was regulated like electric and telephone, the cost would be steady and easier to budget each month because the cost would be predictable.
4, taxes, again, the government could change it's tax schemes to help the people. the 3 reason is the only 1 that at the moment can't be fixed directly by ANY administration in power at any given time.
DITCH OPEC and use our own damn oil.
By CAT-2 at 23,Apr,24 22:17 other posts of CAT-2 
We do use our own oil. You mistake trading one country's oil for another to reduce cost of transportation as not using our own oil. This is wrong. Stop pushing this. In the end, this too is something controlled by the oil companies.
Taxes are needed to maintain the infrastructure. The alternative is paying a higher income tax if you have a driver's licence.
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Phone and electricity costs are local or semi local. Can you imagine finding a way to charge for gas? It's ludicrous.


By phart at 01,May,24 00:53 other posts of phart 
Ok cat, if biden can't do anything about gas prices, why is he being pressured to do so?
And what the hell are democrats trying to do? finish killing off the economy? we need affordable gas to keep the country moving.
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By CAT-2 at 01,May,24 10:38 other posts of CAT-2 
This is a political subject, not a gas availability issue. We'll have to see what Biden does.
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The bottom line is, if you don't like what's happening in this administration, vote them out.........but, if they get reelected, THEN more agree with them than not. I think and hope they win. The Clown is not an option.
By phart at 01,May,24 14:04 other posts of phart 
please cat,if neither are good the job, give us another choice!
at the moment,Trump is the only thing we have to choose except for biden,and I would burn down the voting booth and go to jail before i would vote for that man
By CAT-2 at 01,May,24 14:31 other posts of CAT-2 
I can’t give you another choice. You (plural), are giving the Clown the go ahead. You guys had the chance to put a better choice that could beat Biden and put the Clown away.
By phart at 01,May,24 15:06 other posts of phart 
Ok so who would that choice have been?
It is time for answers, And frankly the short answer at the moment is no 1 wants the job that you would approve of other than a liberal democrat because of the way Trump is being treated. Would you put yourself up on a podium to be treated like he is right now?
By CAT-2 at 01,May,24 21:38 other posts of CAT-2 
Nicky did.
By phart at 01,May,24 22:30 other posts of phart 
and kamalla woulda been her vice probably. I don't like her for alot of reasons.
she also sold a bunch of state owned land to the chinese, boy talk about a real patriot.
By CAT-2 at 01,May,24 23:25 other posts of CAT-2 
Nicky Haley is a Republican. Harris is a Democrat.
By phart at 02,May,24 00:36 other posts of phart 
Well, alot of folks don't see much difference between haley and a democrat
By CAT-2 at 02,May,24 12:30 other posts of CAT-2 
There’s not supposed to be a big difference. Traditional Republicans believe in the same things that traditional Democrats believe in. The difference is in the way they reach those things.
Neither group wants to a leader to call, on his own, whether an election is fair. Nor do they want to allow the military to be the enforcers of presidential power. Neither wants to have the government to monitor pregnant women’s pregnancy. Neither wants mass deportations of MILLIONS of illegal immigrants, at the expense of the taxpayers, may I add.
That is what we, the public, want. Sensible leaders who can be chosen to actually LEAD following the rules of law. From either group.
By phart at 02,May,24 14:01 other posts of phart 
good luck with that. It hasn't been that good in decades.
Don't let the illegals in, and you don't have to figure out how to get rid of them.
Kinda like preventing cancer,don't smoke and that will greatly reduce the chances of getting it.
By CAT-2 at 02,May,24 15:04 other posts of CAT-2 
So true. Now give us a lawful way to do that.
By phart at 02,May,24 15:14 other posts of phart 
simple, encounter a suspected illegal. Ask for government issued id and social security number. If none are provided, detain,investigate,and deport.
By CAT-2 at 02,May,24 16:30 other posts of CAT-2 
Great except that's being done already. How's that working?
By phart at 02,May,24 17:17 other posts of phart 
Not well because to much effort is being wasted on unrelated things Every step the texas governor is trying, and the feds are fighting him tooth and nail.
By kebmo at 02,May,24 18:21 other posts of kebmo 
The Transmountain pipeline from Alberta to tidewater in Vancouver is now open. This tripples is the amount of crude oil being shipped out of our country but not to the United States.
The NAFTA agreement says that any oil that Canada sells to the US or Mexico has to be the same price as we sell it to other Canadian refineries and vice versa. A lot of his oil may now leave the country by way of this new pipeline which opened this week.
Alberta oil is in a landlocked situation and getting it to tidewater to ship overseas has been a desire of ours for decades.
This pipeline is huge to Alberta. It triples our tidewater shipping capacity from 300,000 barrels per day to 890,000 barrels per day. If the US is no longer receiving some of this oil it could very well affect the gasoline prices in the US because that oil will have to be bought somewhere else at world prices as opposed to NAFTA prices.
Where Alberta oil goes has always been a very contentious issue in Canada. Alberta (and the federal government) wanted to build this pipeline east (Energy East) instead of west to supply Ontario, Quebec and our Maritime provinces but Quebec said no so we went west and will sell it to the world (Asia) at a higher price.
Every time oil prices change by one dollar it affects the Alberta economy by $100 million.
By phart at 02,May,24 19:19 other posts of phart 
I thought Nafta was replaced?

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I will have to read thru it later

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By kebmo at 02,May,24 19:49 other posts of kebmo 
Because most of Canadian oil was shipped to the US we only had one customer. The reason we didn’t have more customers was because Alberta oil is landlocked and was unable to get to the sea to ship globally. Now that this new pipeline is open we do have access to global markets so we will be able to get more money for our oil. Supply and demand.
By phart at 02,May,24 21:38 other posts of phart 
um. well something is amiss because wholesale gas is down to 2.59 a galllon.
By kebmo at 03,May,24 00:59 other posts of kebmo 
Well then be sure to send a thank you note to Mr. Biden!
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By phart at 03,May,24 18:44 other posts of phart 
his admin is trying find ways to make it cost more,didn't you see all that ruckus last week on the net?
By CAT-2 at 03,May,24 19:41 other posts of CAT-2 
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By leopoldij at 03,May,24 23:18 other posts of leopoldij 
David Dennison is fucked up.
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jealous of his intellect?



By phart at 27,Apr,24 18:27 other posts of phart 
Democrat lost more than his shirt in san fransico,the land of rice a roni and street thugs.
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By leopoldij at 27,Apr,24 19:43 other posts of leopoldij 
By the way, you should know that when you link stuff from Microsoft, one must have an account in order to read them; otherwise did, they're not available to a person without an account. And, of course, many won't open an account in order to access that shit site.
By phart at 27,Apr,24 22:10 other posts of phart 
I don't have a account, it just comes up when I do a search.
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By leopoldij at 27,Apr,24 23:26 other posts of leopoldij 
Then, I guess, it's free only for people in the US. I honestly can't access this content.
By phart at 28,Apr,24 03:44 other posts of phart 
good gosh, i can't either on that last link and I just went to it and thought it was easy,
I will try again.
Adam Schiffs luggage is stolen from his car in san fransisco.
Perhaps a uk paper will have a page?
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By leopoldij at 28,Apr,24 04:17 other posts of leopoldij 
Ok, I accessed this last one from the guardian. Works. Sad story. But he should be careful in places with lots of thieves.

Sometimes a page will give different kind of privileges to different users, depending on their location, on the number of times they accessed the site before, on the kind of computer they have and on the type of browser.
By phart at 28,Apr,24 13:27 other posts of phart 
I use the firefox browser for most stuff, have been using Brave for youtube nowadays as it cuts out all the ads
I just find it so ironic that soft on crime democrats are getting socked in the wallet just as everyone else by having to pay for car windows and most property to replace what was taken.
IF they kept the crooks locked up,95% of it would not be happening.


By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Apr,24 12:53 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Is that newsworthy to you? Ahuh, ahuh, a Democrat got his shit stolen.
Yeah, crime exists, Democrats know that. But, just like your Republican politicians, they are all rich and don't have to care about living in the world that you live in.

Still, Democrats actually have good plans to reduce crime.
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The irony is, REPUBLICANS think 'defunding the police' will help.
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Republicans just keep telling you that tougher punishment will help.
It's nothing but bullshit for gullible people. They are incapable of doing anything useful, so the only thing they have to get voters, is lying that everything is getting worse because of the Democrats and then saying that they have the solutions.

Republicans are incapable of imagining solutions, just like you.
This is the level of your thinking:
- Mental illness? -> Lock them up!
- Crime? -> Just kill all the criminals!
- Immigrants coming for your jobs? -> Build a wall!
- Poor people? -> They should work harder!
- People cannot afford medication? -> Leave it up to the market!
- School shooting? -> Give guns to the stressed out teachers!
- Climate change? -> The earth's weather has always changed!
- Unwanted pregnancies? -> Their own fault for fucking!
- Black people protesting police violence? -> Shut the fuck up!
- Students protesting genocide by Israel? -> Shut the fuck up!
- Free speech? -> My right to say the N-word and be a douche online!

I wouldn't want to straw-man you, so tell me if you don't agree with any of them.
In any case, it's the thinking of primitive people, and it's what your mind is reduced to, when you only watch right-wing media.

Republicans have a House majority. It's their responsibility to create laws to provide those solutions, even if they are your stupid solutions. But they have not! None of the problems ever get solved when a Republican is in power. They stop talking about those problems when a Republican is in power, but as soon as a Democrat enters the White house, all those problems are back, the day after. What happened?
Didn't your president solve those problems?

Sure, your House majority has to work with the Democrat majority in the Senate, but they didn't even try. There has never been a House this ineffectieve ever. They are only fighting among themselves, because some of them want to do nothing and shut down the government completely and others want to keep the country running.
None of them actually want to do anything USEFUL.
By phart at 28,Apr,24 13:26 other posts of phart 
you know as well as I do if the legs don't part,nothing grows in the womb
so why would anyone disagree with that 1?
You are not 100% wrong in most of your thinking,the problem is you don't realize, there is NO FIXING alot of the people out there that are on drugs or that commit crimes by habit.
You waste time and money on rehabing someone and the next day after they are free from jail they are right back in.
Dope heads, they are hooked, and it is their fault for the most part,no one held a gun to their head and said,"take this". they took it on their own.

Work earns a wage, it does help poverty.
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Apr,24 15:29 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So, basically, you agreed with every point, is what you're saying.

You are tricked by 'populism'. It is a belief in simple solutions to complex problems. Some of those problems are real, but they always misrepresent the causes.
When people don't understand the causes, there is no possibility of introducing real solutions. That's why populism always fails in solving the problems.
In fact, mostly the problems will only get worse. It always fails, but keeps pointing
to others for their failure.

"When populism runs out of road, it blames the road."

You keep blaming people. How come that your people suck so much then?
Americans are the hardest working people in the modern world. Then why are there so much more poor people in the US, than in most of the modern world?
It just doesn't make sense.
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By phart at 30,Apr,24 15:48 other posts of phart 
because there aren't as many people working hard in America as you are lead to believe.
THe definition of "hard work" has changed drastically over the years.

Hard work is going down in the coal mines , hard work is welding pipe lines, digging ditches. Used to be that running heavy machinery like bulldozers was hard work but now they are enclosed ,air conditioned, gps navigated and so on to a point it is hardly more difficult that driving a Toyota.

Young people think working 8 hours at Mc Donalds is hard work, and that type thing is what skews the numbers to the benefit of the stats you read.
By Ananas2xLekker at 30,Apr,24 16:04 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If hard work reduces poverty, why are they so poor in countries where people are doing the most and the hardest work?

You worked hard, when you worked. You know it didn't pay well.
I sit on my ass all day and that pays a lot more.

That hard work, you are supporting, is terribly inefficient.
Machinery makes working much more efficient.
That bulldozer required a hardened man, now any woman can do it.
That's why productivity has gone through the roof and is still climbing.
That's creating more value with less people. That added value is just mostly going to the wealthy. That's why the middle class, doing the actual work, is declining and why the upper class, who don't do any hard work, is more wealthy than ever before.

If you value hard work so much, why do you like the wealthy so much?
None of them are shoveling coal or welding pipes.
By phart at 30,Apr,24 16:14 other posts of phart 
Without the wealthy, who is going to pay for the research, development, salary's of the jobs the hard working people do?

Also I was thinking and was coming back to mention another point.
Do these charts and specs take into account what is considered wealthy in other countries compared to the US?

Jeff bezo's is wealthy in the US, but Strive Masiyiwa is considered wealthy in zimbabwa.
BIG difference in the amount of money
By CAT-2 at 30,Apr,24 18:42 other posts of CAT-2 
This first sentence is you putting the cart before the horse. All initial endeavors start with an idea. After, if successful, then more research can be done. Investors grease the work, but, many times, the investors are middle income people that either invest a few coins or donate to a worthy cause.
I have no beef with megazillionaires, but, they did make their money on the shoulders of the common people.



By CAT-2 at 02,May,24 13:05 other posts of CAT-2 
Phart, young people is not a good group to base the thinking of the average adult. Just about every young person starts their work life at a low skill job. All I have to do is look at morning traffic to realize most people GO TO WORK. What they work at is not the measuring stick for hard work. Swinging a pick is much less challenging than figuring out complex problems that require long periods of time to solve.
How many pick handlers do you know off that could develop penicillin or a polio vaccine? How many welders do you know that could invent a transistor ? How many rednecks do you know that can design a space vehicle of any kind? How many blue collar workers do you know that can calculate the monthly payment of a loan at 6% for a period of 3 yrs?
I’m not putting down those other people that do those jobs you’ve mentioned. My Dad was a redneck and proud of it. He worked construction out in the Florida and Carribean sun all his adult life and before that he was in the Army Air Corp.
There’s no way to define “hard work” except to say it’s an activity a person tries hard to do.
By phart at 02,May,24 13:54 other posts of phart 
I am a redneck that can weld and understand electronics!
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By leopoldij at 02,May,24 01:00 other posts of leopoldij 
God bless trump and America 🤜🏻🙏🏼🇺🇸💪🏼

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By CAT-2 at 02,May,24 12:17 other posts of CAT-2 
Leo, HE can bless one or the other but not both at the same time. Maybe that fallen angel, Lucifer, has something to do with the Clown. 🤣🤣😈



By phart at 12,Jan,23 15:45 other posts of phart 
Illegals are really "grateful" for the help they get.
Look at the wasted food, and etc.
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By CAT-2 at 12,Jan,23 16:23 other posts of CAT-2 
First, they are LEGAL. Second, so what? Either the hotel is making money or they would have been kicked out. Phart, one example doesn't make any difference. Get over this hatred for illegals.
By phart at 12,Jan,23 16:28 other posts of phart 
This is not about hatred,this is about wastefulness .That was enough food to feed our homeless for a week or more being thrown away because of those ungrateful people's wasteful mindset.It's free to them so they don't care,it is not free to the tax payer.
And I doubt there is much money being made,you haven't saw the place once the illegals leave. May not be worth rebuilding.
And I Doubt this is the only place this waste is happening.
It is 1 thing to come here asking for help.But when you waste that help,and fight and fuck and tear up everything,that is when you should be sent back to where ever the hell you came from.And all that sex in the hall ways is only leading to even MORE babies to have to feed because once they fall out of their mothers worn out holes, they are citizens, for the country to keep up.
I can't believe you can't comprehend waste
And another thing,there were plenty of homeless people already in New York that could have been put up in those hotels with that SAME federal money. Why are citizens being denied this luxury and only the illegals or whatever the fuck is ok to call them get it all free?
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By leopoldij at 12,Jan,23 17:26 other posts of leopoldij 
Cat is right
By phart at 12,Jan,23 18:13 other posts of phart 
I knew you would agree it is ok to leave our legal citizens starveing and homeless and let the illegals throw away food and desimate our resources.You think the world is a endless horn of plenty,wrong,it has a bottom and eventually people will see it,when they hit it.
I didn't change the subject on the thread you made,I started this 1 to show that you aren't the only 1 asking questions.
that can't get answers rather they make sense or not.
I know the world is dangerous.and until people are deterred from harming each other and learn to value life, nothing will change, except maby the tools if your type of folks have their way.
By leopoldij at 12,Jan,23 21:08 other posts of leopoldij 
The existence of poverty is due to there being so many filthy rich, individuals who have more money than entire nations.
Some of their money should be redistributed to poor people or, better yet, by creating new sustainable conditions for the welfare
of the poor. Nobody should own more than, say, 10,000,000,000, that is like owning 10 million luxurious houses each 10 million dollars worth. It should be illegal to have that much money. It's too much and such people are a threat to the stability of a nation (because they can, for example, pay politicians, buy armies , etc).

That's the sustainable solution.

Together with an obvious disease: there are too many people on this planet. We should go down to at most 5 billion people by asking people not too have too many children.
By phart at 13,Jan,23 00:55 other posts of phart 
OH my Goodness? You just discribed George Soro's!
He has literally bankrupted 2 countries.
But he gets a pass because he supports liberal causes.
A conservitive leaning person of his caliber would be hunted down by Seal team 6 like a terrorist.
By Ananas2xLekker at 29,Apr,24 16:35 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What a ridiculous victim complex. Conservative biljonairs are running the whole world into a war-stricken hellscape and no one is touching them at all. They are respected by politicians, the media and you.
That story of George Soros gets more ridiculous every time I hear it. Some sites on the internet now claim he broke 15 countries. Which one are your 2? Malaysia and England? He used their own system, legally, to enrich himself. Both Malaysia and England are fine, not bankrupt. You would endorse that as being a smart person, every day, but because he's mildly culturally liberal and donates to Democrats, he's your chosen bad guy.

You just defended Warren Buffett from being a villain, but he's exactly the same as George Soros. They hack the capitalist system to create money from nothing, to enrich themselves. At least they used smart tricks. High-frequency trading is just abusing the power of a server farm to gain a millisecond advantage to take advantage of the trading system, to create money from nothing. It wastes ridiculous amount of electricity, raises your electricity costs, steals billions of dollars from the economy and creates stock crashes too. They are not evil or villains to do that, people are rubes to keep supporting the system that allows them to keep doing that. Democrats want to restrict it Republicans keep supporting it.

Like I said before, you only see the faults in the system,
when it's a Democrat or a liberal abusing the system.
When it's a Republican or conservative doing much worse,
then you always find a way to defend it.



By CAT-2 at 12,Jan,23 23:54 other posts of CAT-2 
Phart, wouldn’t it be great if we could roll back time to a few years ago? Say, to 2008? There were no homeless people then. Vets had all their problems taken cared off. Insurance companies were well regulated. There were no homosexuals. Disabled people had full support of the US government. Illegal aliens were all stopped at the border. There was no discrimination of any people. We all had health insurance for life. Ahh, those were the times, my friend.

By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Jan,23 08:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Your legal citizens are starving and homeless, because they are exploited by the same people that illegals are. It's not the lack of resources you should worry about, because there is an abundance of it, it's who controls those resources, why you have citizens who are starving and homeless.
By CAT-2 at 20,Jan,23 19:17 other posts of CAT-2 
Every country has citizens that are starving and homeless. The people who do the exploiting exist in every country. Even yours, Ananas. They may exploit for different reasons but the end is the same. There's the have and the have nots. Even in the most socialistic country there's that one that has a Datcha and a car with a driver because "he is important to making the system work". I do understand what you, Ananas, are trying to convey, but, "exploited" doesn't really fit here. While many resources are available through corporate efforts, not all is controlled by Wall Street types. I know where I can pick fruit and veggies for personal consumption. I know where a Ma and Pa grocery store sells fresh meats. I know how to bake bread and make very good and healthy meals. I don't need a car, a bicycle is good enough. So, you see, it would be hard to exploit me. And, before you say, "Ah, but what about money?". That, too, is not at the mercy of the Big Guys. I have a service (I have a nursing degree) I can sell. You are European and as such, your history includes many times the citizentry have been subjugated and it's natural to shout for equality. In our country, despite all the discrimination and police brutality, we can still say we are relatively free to be happy.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Jan,23 15:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"The people who do the exploiting exist in every country. Even yours, Ananas."
That's true. That is the problem I'm addressing all the time.

If by your reference to a 'Datcha', you imply that Russia is, or ever was the most socialistic country; it isn't and it never was. It was at most communist; an authoritarian government controlling everything. Socialism means full democratic control of the PEOPLE. Russia never had that, it was always controlled by the wealthy elite and it still is now. The people never had any power and even now Putin does some sham elections, they still have no power. The most 'socialistic' countries are the Scandinavian countries. And there are the least starving and homeless people in the world there. When people refer to Venezuela, they know nothing. That's a corrupt state run by oil barons, an oligarchy is not socialism.
The people have no power at all.

A free market is part of capitalism. It doesn't mean that everything is owned and controlled by corporations. But who is owner of the farm, or the mortgage of the farm or who owns that mom and pop shop, who collects their rent, who controls the money you pay with or the method you pay by. Where did the farm buy their seeds, or the manure. Who competes with that farm and mom and pop shop, determining the price you are willing to pay, where does your money come from?
When there is an economic crisis, who gets bailed out with your tax-dollars,
that self-pick farm, the mom and pop shop, or big banks and corporations?
In all those steps, corporations have lots of influence over what you think is an uncontrolled free market.

In the past, everyone was exploited. We come from a time of lords and serfs.
It's true that people are more free to be happy now, but don't be complacent, because your freedom is fragile and the time of lords and serfs is closer than you think. For many uneducated working people, it's already a reality that is almost inescapable. They are living in their car, on the parking lot of the factory, because they don't have money for a house and they work too many hours to travel home anyway. That bar of exploitation is moving up, to more people we used to call the 'middle class'. How many jobs do you know, that used to pay enough to house and feed a whole family and now doesn't pay enough for one person? Are there less people doing those jobs now? Or are there now just more people with jobs that don't pay enough to house and feed them?




By phart at 12,Jan,23 19:22 other posts of phart 
Leo,since you like stats,
Check these out.
A near-record 22,077 single adults slept in shelters each night in October 2022. Over the course of City Fiscal Year 2022, 102,656 different homeless adults and children slept in the New York City Department of Homeless Services (DHS) shelter system. This includes 29,653 homeless children.
Did you read that? over 29,000 homeless KIDS! IN 1 city.
No resources to house them except in "shelters". BUT suddenly when some of bidens puppets are shipped in from the border, there is 1000's of dollars to pay for hotels,food,and etc.
WHY???
Citizens first, America FIRST.
By CAT-2 at 12,Jan,23 23:47 other posts of CAT-2 
The question is why are they there. They are there because a REPUBLICAN governor bussed them there. Those 29,000 NY homeless, would they have been any more or less homeless if those LEGAL immigrants had not been .bussed BY FORCE by the Texas REPUBLICAN governor? I think not.
By phart at 13,Jan,23 00:51 other posts of phart 
You can't dodge the fact there was suddenly money coming out of nowhere for the illegals,that was not visable when needed for the citizens,
By CAT-2 at 13,Jan,23 01:29 other posts of CAT-2 
You don't know where that money came from. Every city has a slush fund
By phart at 13,Jan,23 03:09 other posts of phart 
THen why don't they use it for solving problems with Americans?
Instead of waiting for illegals to get dropped on them? Hell they coulda sent the money to mexico and the immigrants coulda blown it there.
By CAT-2 at 13,Jan,23 11:26 other posts of CAT-2 
You do realize these people presented themselves to border security and they were allowed in as any other immigrants seeking asylum, don't you?
By phart at 20,Jan,23 01:41 other posts of phart 
You HONESTLY think they are telling the truth or just repeating what some coyote told them to say after taking their money to get them to the border? Asylum means they are threatened and running for their lives. I can't believe that every 1 of them is running for their lives. they are running to free rides on our tab.
Hell I would learn a few phrases to if it meant me staying in a 400 dollar a night hotel for free how ever long I wanted to.
By CAT-2 at 20,Jan,23 22:13 other posts of CAT-2 
In December 2022, the United States accepted 69refugees from Ukraine. In fiscal year 2022 - which ended September 30 - the U.S. had accepted a total of 1,610 Ukrainian refugees. The most Ukrainian refugees arrived in February of 2022, the same month that Ukraine was invaded by Russia.Jan 11, 2023

What is the word for Ukrainian coyote?
By phart at 25,Jan,23 15:06 other posts of phart 
Ukraine is actually at war in case you missed the news. And I am willing to bet once the war is over these folkes will go home.
Central america has been in rock throwing mode long before most immigrants were born. So their parents knew the score and shoulda kept their pants up and not brought kids into that world.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Jan,23 15:50 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"So their parents knew the score and shoulda kept their pants up and not brought kids into that world."

Their life already sucks and then you deny them sex too.

Why do you think I am pro-choice? Because sometimes contraceptives fail and then I don't want people, who are in no shape to raise children, being forced to bring kids into a horrible world.
You understand the last part, but fail to understand that people should have a choice, better than the one you're offering.
By phart at 25,Jan,23 16:09 other posts of phart 
So who made all these rubbers that are failing? sheesh ,lawsuits may be in order?
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Jan,23 16:34 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
There are more contraceptives than just rubbers.
But like I said before, Republicans want to ban contraceptives too.



By CAT-2 at 25,Jan,23 17:16 other posts of CAT-2 
That's not much of an argument, Phart, after all, your parents knew the score on the state of the US and they pulled their pants down.


By DarkMax at 28,Apr,24 14:46 other posts of DarkMax 
Coyote is a species of canine native to North America.
There is no wild coyote in Ukraine. So, coyote in Ukrainian is koyot ( койот ).








By Ananas2xLekker at 20,Jan,23 08:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You SAY "Citizens first, America FIRST", but you DO Elon Musk first, Jeff Bezos first.

Isn't 200 billion enough for them to start thinking about 'the citizens'?
It's your idea of capitalism, that the wealthy run the country, right?
So, how much more do they need to have, before you give them some responsibility?
A trillion? Ten trillion? 99% of all the money? 100%? WHEN????

If the wealthy don't have that responsibility, than who?
You want to give them all the power, but no responsibility?
Do you see the recipe for disaster now?
By phart at 25,Jan,23 15:08 other posts of phart 
Gee,is Amazon fully automated? No, they have employees to work for them.Supplying jobs.
Does Elon build all of his cars? Does he do all the design work and welding? No,he hires people for that and pay them very well.
Without those 2 people,how many 1000's would be working elsewhere,for less money,if at all?
ALOT of them.

So these rich people do take some responsibility for the citizens.The citizens that are willing to get educated and work. Not the 1's that want to lay around at starbucks drinking 10 dollar latte's while hoping sleepy joe erases their college debt from their useless degree.

Oh,by the way,have you forgot Nuero link? You know the company Elon started to design brain implants for the blind and so forth?To help the disabled?
Does George soro's take THAT kind of action for others? No,he spends his money created confusion, riots and spreading hatred and division.
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Did Elon build all this by himself?

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Did Elon design this?
Employees did.
By CAT-2 at 25,Jan,23 23:12 other posts of CAT-2 
They don't. It just works out that way because they have a business. They don't get up in the morning and ask themselves, " What can I do for people"
By phart at 26,Jan,23 01:22 other posts of phart 
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Most going to climate change but hey,liberals can't say he is not going to help.

even the worlds worst enemy george soros has given 32 billion to cause's he supports.
To say the rich do nothing for the people is a broad brush.







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Gee,maby we should have taken them to florida.Maby they could steal from your neighbors instead of new yorkers.
These illegals were staying at 1 of the 400 dollar a night hotels by the way,on taxpayers dime.
What were they going to do with 12,000 dollars worth of stuff from a fancy store? I doubt they were going to wear it.Probably shuttle it to a 3rd party for about 400 bucks to be sold at the flea markets somewhere
By CAT-2 at 25,Jan,23 23:17 other posts of CAT-2 
You assume. Bottom line, they broke the law. They got caught. They'll have a trial and, probably, found guilty. They'll be sentenced and will have to serve it. They will be deported. What I can't believe is that you prefer these people be bussed to Florida instead of New York. I can't believe you don't see why this bussing is wrong.
By phart at 26,Jan,23 01:26 other posts of phart 
The bussing is 1 of the best ideas yet to combat the issue of the out of control border.It has democrat mayors like from new york on tv talking about the problem.His ideas may not be the best,BUT if HE and other democrats are hollaring about it,it will bring the issue to the eyes of the democrats.
A few democrats may actually take time to learn the truth and may work in a positive way to a solution. Until he got a bunch of the illegals bussed to him the Mayor of new york did not give 2 shits about the struggles of other citys and states. Now he does. That is what you need. Instead of being "woke" WAKE UP!
By CAT-2 at 26,Jan,23 18:10 other posts of CAT-2 
Phart, don't you think everyone in the country knows there's a human crisis occuring in our southern border? What, exactly, did this stunt do to come up with a solution? Millions of taxpayers dollars are being spent, and for what? So some dumbass Republican governor can look good for the next election? Because Texas gets nothing from this. Like you say, all that money could have gone to help the homeless and vets.
You blame the Democrats, but, what do you think they'll be able to do? You think McCarthy and the other Republicans in the House will let the Biden administration come up with a solution? Not happening.
By phart at 26,Jan,23 18:57 other posts of phart 
The democrats do not want a solution,they are enjoying the mess.
As for what they could do, CLOSE THE FUCKING BORDER .
There is no war down in central america right now,so no reason for asylum.
By CAT-2 at 26,Jan,23 19:22 other posts of CAT-2 
How?









By phart at 22,Apr,24 20:12 other posts of phart 
I am putting this here so leo and annass can see it
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folks are always talking about republicans and their money, this shines a different light. liberals that married into money spending it to insure more crime
By Ananas2xLekker at 23,Apr,24 12:11 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
What relation are you trying to make between the article and what you are saying?

"liberals that married into money spending it to insure more crime" ????

The article is speaking about "The recent crime wave in American cities".
That's absolute bullshit; every type of crime is down a lot, everywhere.
They are just making up nonsense to justify more nonsense.
By phart at 23,Apr,24 18:01 other posts of phart 
"The reality is that there’s big money behind criminal justice reform. In California, Attorney General Rob Bonta and others have been heavily funded by philanthropists, many of whom inherited or married into money. "

Heres what needs to be understood.
"It remains to be seen whether angry voters and exasperated urban business owners will force more big-city Democrats to move toward the center on the issue of law and order. But even if they do, the damage in the form of lost lives, stolen property and blighted neighborhoods done by progressive prosecutors funded by misguided Democratic plutocrats cannot be undone."
By CAT-2 at 23,Apr,24 22:07 other posts of CAT-2 
Philanthropist
a person who seeks to promote the welfare of others, especially by the generous donation of money to good causes.
Phart, you make it sound as a bad thing. The truth is that major crime is down in big cities and going up in red states.
By phart at 23,Apr,24 22:11 other posts of phart 
Why is it everytime I check my email my local community board is busting at the seems with camera footage of folks cars being broke into while parked in peoples driveways, shootings, muggings, all this stuff is still filling our news cast every day.
By CAT-2 at 24,Apr,24 21:24 other posts of CAT-2 
You live in the Carolinas, a Red state.
By phart at 24,Apr,24 22:59 other posts of phart 
This aint in carolina, but over there,
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Crime hasn't went down, it is just less talked about to make it look like things are good.
Things are bad,really bad.
By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Apr,24 13:51 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Showing news articles about crimes is not an argument.
We are not saying crime is GONE, we are saying it is DOWN.

The media has an incentive to keep you hooked on news.
Then the 24/7 news channels have nothing else to do,
than grinding out every little story to its absolute depth.
That gives people the idea that the world is turning uglier by the day.
That's mostly perception, crime really has gone down year by year,
with maybe a temporary uptick here and there, when there is a crisis
and people are more desperate and stressed out.
Check some statistics, before you make claims on your feelings.
Your feelings are based on hypes and lies.

The only crime that is worrying is mass shootings. You cannot solve that with criminal justice reform, not in a liberal way and not in a right-wing way.
The only thing that would help is improving mental healthcare and gun reform. Republicans think mental healthcare is too expensive and think that gun reform is an afrond against the 2nd amendment. That means that the worst crime know to man is flourishing, while crimes that can be reduced with policing has been declining for decades.
By phart at 25,Apr,24 18:53 other posts of phart 
mental health would not be a problem had the insane asylums not been closed off years ago and the people sent out with pills in hand to cope and be a tumor on society.
By CAT-2 at 25,Apr,24 20:11 other posts of CAT-2 
I would check your sources again.
"According to the Definitive Healthcare platform, there are 820 active psychiatric hospitals in the U.S. as of March 2023."
By phart at 25,Apr,24 22:02 other posts of phart 
Well they must have plenty of openings.


By Ananas2xLekker at 25,Apr,24 22:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Sure, lock'em all up, that's your solution for everything.
Mental healthcare is a preventative measure, for normal people
who are going through rough times to get help, so they can cope.
It's a good investment to help people back on their feet.

In your system, how are they going to decide who to lock up?
People who are suffering from depression? Lock them up!
A guy having a hard time dealing with a divorce? Lock him up!
A nerdy guy who suffering torment from his schoolmates? Lock him up!
A postman got fired from his job and is posting hate online? Lock him up!
That's what you have to do to prevent the mass murders of the last years.
They were mostly normal people with issues like these.
They just went crazy, because they had no one to turn to.
You will have to lock up millions of people, to catch the one who would go crazy.

But sure, think of the absolute worst and most expensive solution, for something that can be treated very effectively, if you only spend some tax-dollars for some good things. Tax-dollars that will come back, from the people who are able to function in society again.

I might have to rethink my love for democracy. People like you can vote too.
By phart at 25,Apr,24 22:14 other posts of phart 
I was bullied in school, and you know what? the school never did a damn thing about it. THAT's 1 thing that could change.
Don't lock up the victim of harassment or bullying, lock up the damn bully's because later they will be come the thieves and rapist and murderers. most sicko's start out being bully's in school, torturing animals and other kids, only to become worse as they age. that is a problem that could be fixed to make life more pleasant for everyone.
By Ananas2xLekker at 26,Apr,24 12:05 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
And you're obviously damaged for life.
If they helped you, maybe you would have a better opinion of people.
You're right that most people 'turn to the dark side', when they're young.
Most of them are not bad by nature, their parents are just bad parents.
When teachers see children turn bad, they should send the whole family to caregivers. The parents might need even more help, than the kid itself.
That's exactly how you "make life more pleasant for everyone."
Better parents -> better kids -> less thieves, rapist and murderers.
By CAT-2 at 26,Apr,24 12:31 other posts of CAT-2 
Amen to that, Ananas. We treat the child (sometimes) and totally ignore the home life. Kids learn to be bullies or delinquents.
Phart, I'm sorry for your suffering growing up. My brothers and I, we protected each other. My older brother, Teddy, made sure no one messed with me. We both made sure no one bothered Rick or Tom, our younger brothers. He and I would gang up on anyone and everyone if they as much as looked the wrong way at them. We also protected our friends. Everyone knew that you didn't mess with the CAT family.
By phart at 26,Apr,24 15:26 other posts of phart 
I will never forget 1 of the high school wrestlers that used to beat me everyday on the bus. Many years later ,a scrawny, disheveled looking fellow,that looked strung out on drugs, saw me in a store where I was getting a cold drink a cracker ,back when you could still afford them at the convience store.He made eye contact with me and started crying like a newborn baby. Got on his knees literally right there in the aisle and said "please forgive me for what I did to you when we were kids" and went on and on and on just crying his eyes out.By then we had a crowd. I just said, "get up off your damn knees and stand like a mand and get over it,that was decades ago and I am grown and past it now.sure you hurt me and hurt me bad, but I am over, and you need to be to.".
I heard later he shot himself.
So the bully didn't win.
By Ananas2xLekker at 27,Apr,24 19:48 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Many bullies are having mental health issues themselves.
They are venting frustration and anger, from being abused themselves,
or they feel the need to demean other people to feel better about themselves. Mentally stable and happy people don't do things like that.
You shouldn't be surprised how he ended up.

Still, there are many people who keep abusing other people, like they did in school, but just by being hateful to other people. I think they are incapable of ever loving and respecting anyone, even the ones closest to them.
They are the husbands that beat or just belittle their wives and children.
Then the chain of misery continues, because the children most of the time turn out the same way.
That's what mental healthcare is also good for; cut the chain of abuse.
By phart at 27,Apr,24 22:01 other posts of phart 
cutting that chain of abuse can also be accomplished by REMOVEING the abuser from the picture.
Having witnessed how the medicines work that are used for mentally illness, it would be difficult for me to support turning a father back loose with his family while on heavy dose's of medicine. oh for a few weeks or months, johnny is doing great .finishing all his puzzles and making his own chocolate milk and fetching his own cookies.medicines that we perscribed but still don't know how they work are fixing the problem.Turn him back to his family and his air traffic controller job and let's move on to Tyron and billy.
3 months later johnny kills his family by driving off a cliff.
That's exaggerated to make a point. The real case I witnessed consisted of a 35 year old nutjob that was being medicated, got drunk and while drunk had a reaction to his meds. He went to the hospital er and ask for a certain med that he was hooked on because he was buying it off the street, of course they refused.He was not a patient and they could not verify he needed the meds. So he proceeded to walk up to the 5 th story of the parking deck and jump off into the bushes down below, tossing both leg bones out the pants legs.As they rolled him back into the er he said, "Now can I have some pain meds".
THat is what treatment for mental illness accomplishes. it keeps nut cases like him walking among us. Oh, yea, once he got out of the hospital from that , he decided he would kill himself 1 day after a dispute with his girlfriend. He walks out in front of a truck. Gets banged up so he can get some dope..
By Ananas2xLekker at 28,Apr,24 12:06 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Oh, sure, locking up their father or mother is surely going to help
those children to grow up like respectable citizens.

Mental healthcare is not just for mentally ill people, it's for people BEFORE they become mentally ill, to PREVENT them from becoming mentally ill.

Your community creates mental illness. You have many examples of people going crazy around you. I don't have those examples, because my community is still not as harsh and selfish as yours. The last few decades, that has been changing, because of right-wing politics. They have created lots of suffering for people, turning into lots of mental illness.
Still not as much as in the US, but if Dutch voters keep making stupid choices like you, mental illness will only become worse. Your political side is spreading a culture of selfishness and antagonism towards other people. It creates selfish assholes and it creates people who break down, because they cannot handle living in such a world.

Community is hardening. Every day we hear about more civil servants encountering violence. That's from people who grow up in a world that's being shaped by your ideas; there is no community looking out for you, you are on your own, get what you can, treat everyone around you like the enemy. Your ideas are turning everyone into predators, because that's what survival of the fittest demands.
Stop treating people like animals, and they won't become animals.


















By leopoldij at 27,Apr,24 19:48 other posts of leopoldij 
By the way, trump, who thinks of him as jesus, has launched his bible (that he's never read) and sells it to idiots who're willing to give him $60.

Since it's difficult to understand (he used his father's nazi German language) it's now been translated into ordinary American English and is available for 1/12 of trump's price:

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By phart at 27,Apr,24 18:11 other posts of phart 
Cat, if this is so,will it bother you as much as the supposed interference from russia to get Trump elected?
Even blinkin is admiting Trump would be a problem for china and is wanting biden reelected.
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By phart at 27,Apr,24 13:19 other posts of phart 
Hey Leo, I know you won't reply but what about this ungrateful bastard and his knife?
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Illegal immigrant, gets thru to the uk by way of the Nether regions as a asylum seeker. Where have we heard of that term alot lately? UM?
Tried to kill the person that was providing him shelter then goes out and kills a man out for a morning walk.
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By CAT-2 at 26,Apr,24 16:29 other posts of CAT-2 
Newly minted RNC chair Lara Trump says they've got lawsuits cooking in 81 states. There are 50 states.

It runs in the family.


By leopoldij at 25,Apr,24 23:13 other posts of leopoldij 
A 13 year old girl tried to kill 3 people in a school in Dyfed-Powys.
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But she could only get hold of knives, so nobody died. I'm sure she would have easily used guns if she could get hold of them. But there aren't many around.
By phart at 26,Apr,24 01:12 other posts of phart 
Leo,is the weapon your only concern?
Why are you not concerned about a 13 year old actually wanting to kill someone?
A 13 year old girl is at the age of kissing a boy the first time, going on play dates, learning to cook.

Where did this 1 obtain the desire to kill?
Could it be she ask for help from a teacher or parent and didn't get any? Like I did myself in school when I was constantly bullied?
could it be she is on powerful medications that are causing mood swings prompting this behavior?
Could it be she is a gamer and thinks just push a reset button?
What Prompted her to want to kill? Solve that problem and it won't matter if you scatter Thompson sub machine guns around the city park, they won't be used won't be needed.

If you hired a man to build a house and he did a lousy job, would you punish his hammer by sending it to the smelter or would you address the man and expect action?
The tool is not the problem. it is the user.



By phart at 25,Apr,24 18:26 other posts of phart 
it seems UK has a knife problem?
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Cat's new pic
By CAT-2 at 24,Apr,24 20:56 other posts of CAT-2 
Sir-Skittles, you raghead, you've been sucking too hard. That's a pic of your mom before she emigrated to Afghanistan and shacked up with your Dad, the village idiot.
By phart at 25,Apr,24 02:40 other posts of phart 
but cat, the left arm is like a T rex, no way to get the curly frys high enough,
poor skittles, his mom couldn't get her frys.
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By CAT-2 at 23,Apr,24 15:19 other posts of CAT-2 
A handful of the migrants shipped off to Martha’s Vineyard by Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis 18 months ago are now legally allowed to work in the US — because they’re considered victims of a crime, their attorney says.

The migrants applied last year for a special type of visa designated for crime victims — known as a U-visa — after they claimed they were duped into boarding charter flights from San Antonio, Texas, to the upmarket liberal enclave in Massachusetts with the false promises of jobs and housing.


Hahaha. Way to go DeSantis. You are contributing to the labor pool. 🤣🤣😈
By phart at 23,Apr,24 17:53 other posts of phart 
naw,it's a bunch of soro's supported lawyers finding loopholes.



By CAT-2 at 22,Apr,24 23:09 other posts of CAT-2 
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And in Florida today...


By Ananas2xLekker at 22,Apr,24 13:57 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Jimmy Carr On Andrew Tate & Men's Mental Heath Crisis
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"Andrew Tate is a 14yr old boy's idea of what masculinity looks like"

He talks about other things too, like religion.


By CAT-2 at 20,Apr,24 16:01 other posts of CAT-2 
177-pound Burmese python captured, possibly largest in Florida program's history
WBBH logo Updated: 10:58 AM EDT Apr 19, 2024
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By Zach Scott
The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission located and captured possibly the heaviest Burmese python recorded over the course of the state's python removal program.

The python was caught by Kurt Cox on March 29 in the Everglades at the Francis S. Taylor Wildlife Management Area. According to FWC's data, it is the fourth heaviest and the 22nd longest python on record for the Python Action Team Removing Invasive Constrictors (PATRIC) program.

Nightmare in the woods.
By phart at 20,Apr,24 16:09 other posts of phart 
It is my understanding they can wrap around you, and consume you in your sleep.
Very scary.
Should never have been legal for people to own them or bring them around the US.
By CAT-2 at 20,Apr,24 22:11 other posts of CAT-2 
So true, they all came in through MIA. BOAC was called the z o o airlines. Most of these snakes were Miami pets. Now they are multiplying with no local predators.
They kill by squeezing you until you suffocate to death, then they unhinge their jaws and start to draw you inside. It may take one or more days to do so. The "meal" might take many days for it to be digested.
Only good snakes are dead snakes.
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on that we agree 110%
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cat-2 take a hike in the glades!
By phart at 21,Apr,24 19:30 other posts of phart 
oh boy another name change, just as I was getting used to the last 1.
I think I will change mine to "the member fomerly known as phart".
By CAT-2 at 22,Apr,24 13:45 other posts of CAT-2 
There's a method to my madness......or a madness to my methods?








By phart at 07,Apr,24 14:30 other posts of phart 
Ananas, why would a nation like yours that is supposedly so advanced with affordable health care and such, allow a woman to die by choice instead of helping her? Why didn't she get helped? treated,but not fixed? some health care system you have. Can't fix them, send them to the grave yard.
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This is sickening to me. and to think there are alot of folks that think this is such a great idea.i guess it is the same idiots that don't value the unborns life that don't value adults lives?
By CAT-2 at 07,Apr,24 16:28 other posts of CAT-2 
I don't like this. This, to me, is a problem with the mind and not the body. It cheapens the procedure for people with a horrible deseace that want and need the ultimate relief.
By phart at 07,Apr,24 17:29 other posts of phart 
Well to me, there is a brain issue,you know with the stomach and the brain connection. When stomach empty, you normally get light headed,sick feeling,weak. How can you sit around 24-7 and not feel that way.
I get that way around 1pm or so and if I don't eat something, i aint worth a damn,i am sick and weak.
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You get used to it



By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 08:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Euthanasia is helping people die who are suffering with no end in sight.
People can be suffering from a mental illness, with no end in sight, just as much
as people can suffer from a physical illness, with no end in sight.

You think you can imagine her pain and then come to the conclusion
that she has no right to end her own life, I don't.

Translate this article and find out if she got any help from our healthcare system:
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I don't know if she got ALL the care that she needed, but I'm sure anyone in her position
has a better chance to get that care in my country, than in yours.
In your country, people die from not having enough money to save themselves,
in my country some people die by choice, after all efforts to help them failed.

Lack of Insurance to Blame for Almost 45,000 Deaths:
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Can't pay for insurance, send them to the grave yard.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 11:12 other posts of phart 
In other words, broken people DIE ,just in your country they have the option of chickening out and pulling the plug on their own.oh so noble of you. why a drug,wouldn't pushing them off a tall building be cheaper.
Besides, if you walk into any of our hospitals that receive any government funding they can't turn away people or deny basic care.
Many canadians come to the US to get care because their free care takes to long to receive.
By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 12:05 other posts of leopoldij 
And in the US people die because they are poor and so they have no medical insurance and there is no social health policy.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 14:46 other posts of phart 
and in europe people are scared for life from acid thrown in their face. We could go back and forth all day.
But here in the US,
With go fund me and other things going on locally, I know for a fact that "poor" people can get help if they legit need it.
I have witnessed it.

I had a co worker who didn't have dental insurance, his teeth were terrible. A church group arranged for a dentist in the next state over to do what needed to be done at no cost to the church or him.
Sadly it didn't work out well, he died 3 months later from sepsis. there was so much infection in the teeth and gums the surgery came to late.
By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 17:41 other posts of leopoldij 
Being part of a church in order to get help is a terrible idea. One shouldn't have to enslave his/her mind this way. Church and other ideology groups pose severe limits to one's freedom of expression.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 19:56 other posts of phart 
hehehee, you just assumed he was a member, he wasnt'.His father was a Baptist preacher that died years ago. Darrell just read his Bible alone by kerosene lamp at night. didn't attend church. The church, a Jehovah Witness church that helped him, was located about 1500 feet from his front door. They also stepped up to the plate and purchased him a second hand single wide trailer that was local and easly moved to his land when he lost his home to a terrible fire about 6 months before his dental work.
Good people come in all kinds and classes. People help each other when called upon.
By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Apr,24 10:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
So you like how communities help each other in their time of need?
What do you think publicly funded healthcare is?

It's everyone chipping in to help another, just like the church does sometimes.
However, instead of being grateful to the church for providing that sometimes
to one or two people, you can always depend on publicly funded healthcare
providing what you need when you need it, without asking for a handout.



By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 19:56 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
"scared for life from acid thrown in their face" ?????

It's not just poor people who cannot afford healthcare in the US, it's the large majority of Americans. Almost anything worse than an ingrown toenail would cost you $10,000 or more in co-pays, even when you have an insurance that's considered 'good'. When 44% of Americans can't pay an unexpected $1,000 expense from savings, how many people will need to beg for money every year? And how many people are donating to all those people asking for money, when they can hardly get around themselves? You're dealing in fantasies.

Of course publicly funded healthcare, cutting out the middleman would be many times cheaper, but it isn't necessary. Healthcare was fully privatized in my country in 2006 and we are beating your ass on quality and cost. It only takes some solid regulation. Republicans keep saying deregulating it will work, but that's what you had before and even more people died from lack of healthcare. Biden is doing something. It's nowhere near enough, but that's because the Republicans are fighting him tooth and nail. They really prefer having pharma companies selling their $1 products for $1000, while the government funded all their research. Working in the pharma industry, you would think I would like that, but I know it would just go to the shareholders. I got that covered too, but I still prefer you to have affordable healthcare, like I have (for as long as it lasts, with many of my countrymen voting for stupid right-wing populists).
By phart at 09,Apr,24 20:01 other posts of phart 
Affordable health care. Strange, for decades folks went to work for company's that PROVIDED health coverage as a benefit for working there. Bought at group rates.
When obama took over. i lost my good insurance from my employer and it was replaced as i have said before with a crappy mess that has higher copays and only 70% coverage until the bill gets astronomical.
Democrats screwed the working class trying to give coverage to those that don't work.Oh yea, about biden, if he is doing so much, why did my arthritis medicine go from 2 bucks to 7.50 january of 24??
Eh?
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 21:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You should give away control over your healthcare to your employer.
They already have too much control over you. When you need another job,
you lose your healthcare. When you cannot work, you lose your healthcare.

If you want group rates, let the government buy in your care.

I literally said that Biden is doing nowhere near enough.
That's still 100x more than Trump did. He had NO PLAN besides cutting and gutting. It might look cheaper, but people are getting screwed eventually.

Biden cannot prevent companies from raising prices and he won't.
That would be socialism, wouldn't it? He didn't support medicare4All.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 01:55 other posts of phart 
I luckly didn't loose mine,I will have it till I die.It is just the policy changed during obama and got more expensive.
There are alot of people who do have a interruption in insurance if they quit a job. that's why folks really ought to have their ducks in a row before they quit 1 job to go to another.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 10:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Obamacare is expensive, because it is a right-wing solution.
It was originally a plan from Mitt Romney.
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Obama cooperated with Republicans, who turned it into a big giveaway to the insurance companies. Would he have had the seats to ignore the Republicans, he could have regulated the insurance companies and pharma companies more to lower the prices. At least Biden is doing some of that.

Employer funded healthcare might have looked cheaper, because employers pay some of it, but they only compensate for that by lowering your wage or taking other benefits away. Any time employees want to negotiate wages or benefits, employers use the health coverage hostage. You might think you are paying less for healthcare, but you might be worse of in total.

You are describing a solution to a problem that shouldn't exist.
It's just another level of control from employers, to make it harder for people to walk away from a sucky job or low wages, to find a better (paying) job. It further reduces the strength of the argument that you don't need unions, because you can just find another job. And when you get sick, your employer has a double incentive to get rid of you, which is very easy in your country. You lot always find ways to fuck yourself more and more.

Democracy is intended to vote for your own best interest, not the best interest of wealthy people. You're already way down the priority list of your politicians, because you don't give them millions of dollars. I don't understand how you cannot understand that they trained you to serve them, while they prefer you to die.

Trump has just gotten 50 billion dollars from the wealthy, because he promised them more tax-cuts. That will massively increase the deficit, increasing inflation (or does that only happen under Democrats) unless he starts cutting even more expenses going to infrastructure, social security, Medicare, Medicade, border security, the police, etc. Not a cent of that money will go to you or to lower your costs. You have a right to government help. The only politicians who would ever provide you with it are progressives, but you keep voting for politicians who hate you.
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 15:19 other posts of CAT-2 
Obamacare was established for one and only one purpose. Provide affordable (that’s relative) health insurance to the unemployed. Before Obamacare, if you lost your job, your only option was to get COBRA. This allowed you to keep your last employer’s form of insurance without ANY changes. Good right? Except you have to pay THE FULL monthly price of the insurance. While working, your employer subsidized you so your insurance cost was a part of the real cost. In all my years in the labor market, I’ve never met anyone that could afford COBRA. Obamacare subsidies health insurance for the most needy at a time that they are least able to afford it.
Is it perfect? No. Did it cause some inconveniences for some? Yes, but, show the alternative. And remember, in huge efforts to repeal it, THE REPUCKERS, both federal and state made sure to put financial roadblocks to it that created many of those inconveniences.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 12:19 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Obamacare was probably the best possible solution, within the political climate that Obama had to content with, but I can show you more affordable alternatives.

The US is at the very top of most expensive health care in the world:
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That might be expected, if the US was also providing the highest quality of healthcare, but in the rankings of countries on overall quality of the healthcare system, your country ranks 23th:
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That's 22 countries with more affordable healthcare, that score higher on quality. So, for the alternatives; copy the system from one of those countries.

Trump said he wanted to provide great healthcare at an affordable price. If he had just presented a plan, which he could have just copied from any one of those countries, he would have had more than enough seats in the House and Senate to do so. Democratic voters would actually be angry with their representatives and punish them the next election, if the president from the other party wants to do something they like and their own party would block it.





By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 16:22 other posts of CAT-2 
Phart, those group rates you are talking about didn't mean much. What mattered was how much was the employer willing to cover. That meant that the monthly insurance bill was as high as $300 or more. Then, there were co-payments that, usually, amounted to much more than what you pay today. Also, don't forget that in most jobs there was a beginning period when you couldn't get in. Some system.





By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 12:42 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Well, we don't live in a country where almost everyone can end their life on a whim,
with a gun laying around. You have 73 people dying by gun suicide every day,
totaling nearly 27,000 deaths in a year.

Do you think that 'basic care' of yours could have helped someone like her?
You are kidding right? Do they even provide psychiatric care or can they just
stitch you up, when you had an accident?

She had been suffering her whole life, adding anorexia on her other problems
from the age of about 16, ending up in a hospital and in an eating disorder clinic
for seven months. After that she has been in psychological care constantly
and visited many specialists. Sometimes they can't fix you, you understand that.

Some people struggle through those challenges, some people don't. I'm happy that you find your life worthwhile and I hope you live it to the maximum. It's still not up to you to project your experiences onto others. Empathy is understanding other people's motivations, not unloading your motivations on them.

People have a right to life, not an obligation to survive all suffering and despair.

You keep presenting euthanasia this as other people taking their life. If that was true, you would find me on your side. It's not true, it's assisted suicide. People only qualify for it, when their suffering is determined to have a 'medical basis', when it is hopeless and when the patient is mentally competent to make the choice.

You also keep framing mental illness as something people can decide to stop or others can slap you out of. Mental illness is a disease. Patients can be smart, logical and coherent and still suffer from depression or anxiety or addictions or schizophrenia or who knows else. Some can be cured, some can learn to live with it and some cannot. Just like some people can survive lost or undeveloped limbs, fully losing kidney function or diabetes. The difference is that science has provided better remedies to treat those health problems, while mental illness is more complicated and more difficult to cure or treat.

She had tried suicide tens of times. In your country, the first time would have probably been successful.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 14:38 other posts of phart 
I disagree. If the person has a mental illness, can't understand it needs to eat to be healthy, why is it suddenly that there is no chance in hell of them being wrong when they say they are suffering?They are menatally ill, that means there is a issue with their brain. If there is a issue that prompts them not to eat, there could be a issue that makes them think they are suffering.
How can you be sure they are suffering? or faking it so they can die? I think alot of suicides ,including the mutable attempts my former girlfriend had made over the years, are because they are just to fucking lazy to live.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 14:55 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Some mental illness means being crazy, other mental illness does NOT.
You're doing the exact same thing again, that I just pointed out in the penultimate paragraph in my last post.

Did you ever hear about people who only think that they're suffering, instead of actually suffering, so much that they ask for assisted suicide?
We don't make policies on wild speculation, we make policies on the principle
of providing people with freedoms.

These are freedoms that only affect people in making their own choices.
You support freedoms that very much impact other people. You're 2nd amendment rights indisputably costs many innocent people their lives, but you don't even accept some common sense regulation on it. Meanwhile, you are arguing that maybe some people might harm themselves with right that I support, while I'm very much in favor of regulating that freedom very responsibly.


By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 17:42 other posts of leopoldij 
The scary thing is that he's not kidding. He believes in the crap he has been indoctrinated with.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 19:33 other posts of phart 
The scary thing is, you believe what a few scientist and dr's tell you that have not even been able to cure the common cold. So how the hell can they understand the brain??
You claim i have been indoctrinated, but yet, you are the minority. Most people went to public schools, watch the news, think for themselves, see with their own eyes and make their important decisions based on their observations of all this mentioned and more.
YOU on the other hand, and to a point Anannas as well, seem to think since you think outside of a smaller different box that we are all wrong and evil and any other negative adjective you can come up with.
Just what makes a few atheist so special that the world should follow them? Hell,it would become a cult all to it's self! A religion of liberalism.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 20:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I don't believe you are evil, I don't believe you are stupid, I believe you are indoctrinated from 24/7 propaganda from highly paid experts in propaganda.

The understanding of the brain isn't required. When people act lucid enough, we deem them to be capable of dicing their own faith. The process is careful enough to balance freedom of choice with protecting people against their own bad judgement. Why do I need to defend that against someone who always, in every other case, demands people to be responsible for their own actions? We just had that discussion! You didn't ask to make an exception for people who have diminished mental capacity then.

A few atheists? We are the biggest religious affiliation group in your country and growing rapidly in numbers.

Why are atheists so special? Because we don't accept claims without evidence.
Having no good reason to be believe something, is a good reason to not believe it.

We would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.

Atheism doesn't in any way agree with the definition of 'cult'. A cult is a system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.
We are in no way devoted to any figure, we are devoted to the arguments. We have many figures communicating the arguments and some get very famous, but we drop them like a bad habit as soon as they betray the arguments or display bad character. We don't care who said something, we only care about what arguments they used when they said it. We also don't base our political ideas on what the representatives of atheism report to have, when that's not their area of expertise. We value opinions if they are communicated by people with expertise on the subject and not because they are deemed to have authority. Most of our representatives don't even make claims on subjects they lack expertise in, or they say they lack expertise when they communicate their opinion. When our representatives claim authority or expertise they don't have, they risk our appreciation.
Any completely unknown person can convince us more with facts and logic,
than any world renowned and beloved person can with unsupported claims.

Trumpists are a cult, because it's all about the man, glorifying him, not accepting any criticism of him, believing his every word over their own eyes and ears, even when it's the exact opposite of what he said a sentence before, comparing him with Jesus or even preferring him over Jesus.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 21:31 other posts of phart 
Well, Mostly it seems leo is the 1 that thinks all are dumb and evil,but to a point I get the feeling you think i have a few loose screws.But anyway.
questions without answers, seems to be inspired by Hades sending Sisyphus to Tartarus forever to roll a rock up a hill.

i had heard as a little boy that this was the greeks interpretation of hell.
And it turns out some claim it is where the Christians borrowed the idea from.


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By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 21:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Hell is just made up story to make you compliant towards the people who tell you what they want you to do.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 02:02 other posts of phart 
Well, for a moment, let's assume you convinced me,I go out and use leo for a role model and fuck everything that walks and then I go beyond that to become a evil ,hurtful person that steals and such. Then I die, and i "wakeup" in this really hot place, flames and heat beyond tolerable. boy did I fuck up right?
But at the same time, if I do live a decent life, which is all religion really ask of you,i am forgiven and I die and nothing, um, what did I loose living a decent life?
Treating others as i want to be treated, not stealing, not adulterating , etc.
i did no harm during my life, so what was the loss?

Is being a atheist that much fun that you are willing to wake up 1 day with flames burning your eye lids off for eternity? and to go beyond folks here in general, for others is being a evil, murdering thief that much fun that it is worth the risk?
why would anyone want to be a evil murdering thieving fool anyway? atheist seem to think it is just freedom right?
Regardless of your beliefs or lack thereof,

The point of religion is a form of government .it guides us how to live and such.. so to hate religion is to hate being governed '

With your scientific method, PROVE there is nothing after our body ceases to breath. PROVE, don't present theory's, PROVE there is nothing after we stop breathing.
You can't. We could both present evidence to support our cases but there is no 100% irrefutable proof.
That is why the word faith is inserted.
To a point leo, annans, you have a "faith" of sorts, you have faith there is nothing, and in the big scheme of things, you are but amoebas with dysentery.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 11:33 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you need hell, to prevent you from being a hurtful person?
Do you want to be a hurtful person?
Can you not enjoy your life without being a hurtful person?

If there is no god and hell, are there there things you missed out on,
without having been a hurtful person?

I agree with you that "to hate religion is to hate being governed", but it is to hate being governed by a DICTATOR. I want very much to be governed by democratically elected representatives, working together with the sole purpose to best represent the needs of their voters.
If god was a dictator, he (obviously man by gender then) would be in our lives constantly, making us do his bidding. The fact that he's hiding, reduces the likelihood of that kind of dictator god.

Why is Leo bad for fucking everything that walks (if he does that)?
He's not r@ping anyone, it looks like he's proving lots of pleasure.
The idea that sex is evil is one of those bullshit religious dogmas.

Even if there is a god, and heaven and hell are real, believers are risking that the religions are wrong about how god wants you to live your life. Those holy books are all disagreeing with each other. If you just pick the bible, because you live among people who tell you that's the real holy book, you might just be born in the wrong place, and find out that god is more like Allah. You are sure fucked then mate. At least I was nice to my Muslim neighbors and didn't want the Palestinians to be exterminated.

Or there is a very woke god, who all wants us to love each other.
At least almost everyone gets in to heaven then. You might be alright.

I don't need to substitute faith for the things that I'm not 100% sure about,
I'm fully satisfied with not knowing everything. It's a motivation to think more, while faith is a motivation to stop thinking.

What if god wants people to try to reach the maximum knowledge and use science and logic to best understand the beauty of their creation? Is the universe this complex, for people to refuse exploring this complexity?

Don't you think it's a little bit suspicious when a religion claims that the only way to get into heaven is to really really believe that religion? I smell a scam from a million miles away.

I can't prove there is no god, but that doesn't mean that everything they tell you about him isn't absolute garbage.

A god makes a universe, with the goal of having people to worship him?
Does a being that powerful need that? How disappointing!
And how insulting would it be, for you to think that about them?

Atheists are not the one risking there possibility of getting into heaven; believers are, by being the worst blasphemers on this planet.
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 14:58 other posts of CAT-2 
I don’t know if there’s an afterlife. As a Christian I HAVE to believe there is, but that is in public and in the midst of other Christians. The truth is, and remember, this is part of my personal ideology, that I look at it as “a safe bet. Why? Because, to believe in a Christian afterlife, I have to believe in a Higher Being. In my case it would be Jesus Chist. And here is the safe bet.
If I believe there’s a higher being that promises an eternal afterlife and there’s none, then I haven’t lost anything and gained guidance that is good and proper to live an honorable life. If there is a higher being, same thing. It’s a win-win situation.
The rest of what we call religion, I call subservience to man’s endless wants to rule. I can’t fault you, Phart, for the way you think about religion, nor can I fault you, Ananas and Leo, for your thoughts on religion.
At the ends of the day there’s right and wrong and you don’t need a supreme being’s wrath to tell you what is what.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 19:39 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Even if I wanted to, I cannot force myself to believe something that I find not credible. I know some people advise to fake it until you make it, but I would ask them if god would appreciate that, if you're only doing that to get into heaven.

You consider it a safe bet to believe, but you are still betting on you choosing the correct religion. All the believers think they were lucky enough to be born in the right place with the right religion, but there is no argument at all that you are correct. Your faith that you are correct is just as real as the faith of a Muslim, Jew, Buddhist or Hindu that they are correct.

I accept that there could be a god, although I find it not very plausible, but I see no chance that the god resembles the character as described in the holy books of the major religions. If I started believing that a god exists, then I would need to search hard for a holy book that describes a god that I would consider worth the claim of a of the greatest entity in existence. The religions I know do such a bad job of describing such a being that I would fear that supreme being’s wrath much more, if I choose one of the major religions, than when I wouldn't choose a religion at all. I truly consider them blasphemy.

I honestly think, that if there is a creator of the universe and a different afterlife based on an assessment of my character, I'm better off being honest, following my secular humanist based socialist politics, trying to save nature and humanity and trying to help people with my party, than hypocritically trying to believe something I consider untrue and even harmful. Sorry, if I offend you with that last statement.
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 22:04 other posts of CAT-2 
Ananas, inorder to make it short, I alluded to the Christian in me, but, as I've said, "in my case" My supreme being is not necessarily someone else's but, only in the name.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 08:23 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You've explained your believes before and I don't have much of a problem with it, because you are still using your brain and your hearth, to imagine how a supreme being would want you to live and treat other human beings.

You base yourself on Christianity, but because you make up your own mind about right and wrong, you are able to pick the good parts from religion and ignore the bad parts. There are and have been many people like you, who are and have been inspired to do beautiful acts of kindness. This is very much in line with the core message of Jesus in the bible. That's why I've said before that I like the character of Jesus.

When Mahatma Gandhi said: 'I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.', he wasn't talking about Mother Teresa, or Martin Luther King, or anyone who interprets the general message of Jesus as 'love thy neighbour as thyself', but the people who go look for a preacher who yells in furious anger the political message of hate against everyone they hate, based on one or two lines in the old testament (the bad parts), completely opposing Jesus' message of compassion.

Then the preacher, who has made millions of dollars from the working class people in his church and donations from wealthy Christo-fascists, starts jelling about moochers who don't want to work, socialists, communists and Marxists who want to keep them lazy by feeding them, and how taxes on the rich are destroying America, because the holy job providers will take care of the flock, if they only cast out the evil Democrats, who want to turn your son into your daughter or your daughter into your son, because they worship the devil. A message which is completely inspired by an agenda of providing subservient workers to the owner class they serve, FOR MONEY AND POWER. They turned capitalism into a religion, which is the exact opposite of Jesus' general message.

Matthew 19:21-24: And Jesus said to his disciples, “Truly, I say to you, only with difficulty will a rich person enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.”. They don't believe a word of it themselves, they are just using and twisting the local religion to destroy critical thinking and rule the gullible masses, to serve their Unholy Riches. They don't believe that hell story, it's only a useful tool, for tools.
That's the type of 'Christianity' that I do have a problem with.







By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 22:42 other posts of leopoldij 
I don't think everyone is dumb, but I think that you're totally deluded. And indoctrinated. And fascist. This characteristic of yours alone makes you intolerable. And dangerous.


By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 22:49 other posts of leopoldij 
Have you realized how many cults abs religions come from the US? Here a partial list:

Mormonism
Jehovas witnesses
Trumpism
Qanonists
KuKluxKlaners
Scientificologists
ChildrenOfGodInternationals
TeleEvangelists
Pentecostalists
NRAloyalists
FlatEarthers
....


All theses idiotic religions/cults/dogmas.... Why the fuck are there so many deluded people? Why do people have to believe all kinds of shit?
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 15:03 other posts of CAT-2 
Because, Leo, there are infinite number of charlatans and there’s an even larger amount of people that NEED to be led.







By phart at 10,Apr,24 03:30 other posts of phart 
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By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 10:32 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's dumb! No one can say what they would choose to do in a situation like that,
until they live it themselves. You can empathize with people who make a choice,
but you can never say you would make the same choice.

That's the important thing about choices; you want the right to make your OWN choices, because anyone else making them FOR YOU can be expected to make the wrong choice.
By leopoldij at 10,Apr,24 15:26 other posts of leopoldij 
Very well said.
One should be free to make choices!
You don't want a religion or a state to be dictating to you what you should do.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 17:09 other posts of phart 
if you are not mentally all there, how can you make a reasonable, sensible choice is the issue here.
If a dr can determine a persons brain can't even tell it's hands to insert food into it's mouth to nurish it's body,how can that dr be sure enough to know that person is sincere when they say they want to die?
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 19:49 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The problem is that you now let other people decide if I'm not mentally all there. That's still impacting my choice. You are also ADDING a risk; if I get diagnosed with debilitating dementia and I don't want to end up being a vegetable that pees and shits itself, then when am I still allowed to make my choice to end it? Am I forced to do that, when I'm still mentally all there, because you won't allow me to make that choice when I'm no longer mentally all there? Then you are forcing me to give up time that might be still worthwhile to me. That's an issue, don't you think?

I want the doctor to have a role in deciding if I have a chance of getting better, but only have a role in very clear cases to decide if I'm mentally capable to make my decision.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 21:01 other posts of phart 
Like I said, they aint even cured the cold, and they are qualified to know when and if you are finished?
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 08:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
If you had any scientific, medical and economic knowledge, then you would understand why 'they aint even cured the cold'.

Besides, you would need to go get a jab for that, very very often.
You are not even willing to do that for a virus that has a good chance to kill you, why would you do that for the actual 'sniffles'?

You can keep repeating that I shouldn't have the right to make my own choices, because doctors cannot determine if I can be trusted to make that choice,
but it is a useless argument to convince me, because I don't want them to.


By phart at 10,Apr,24 21:09 other posts of phart 
Why should you be allowed to commit suicide? that is against the law in most places.
If you are mentally capable of such a decision, you are also in good enough mental health to be taught to pick up a fucking fork and feed yourself.
But then, if you have to be forced to feed yourself, you are already past go. so then you are not capable of making that choice
It is stupid to let people die just because they are to nuts to eat.insert a feeding tube.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 08:46 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Is committing suicide against the law?
Well, maybe you should put the death penalty on it.

By CAT-2 at 16,Apr,24 13:27 other posts of CAT-2 
It’s against the law to TRY to commit suicide. It’s kinda moot if you succeed.
By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Apr,24 15:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
In The Netherlands, attempted suicide isn't punishable. Only if it's harming or endangering other people, can it lead to problems with the law.

The reason is simple, people who try to commit suicide are already in enough trouble, so we offer help to try to save their lives, not punishment.




By leopoldij at 10,Apr,24 22:25 other posts of leopoldij 
It's funny that fascists like you are against euthanasia but support mass murders.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 22:32 other posts of phart 
What makes you say that? I don't support mass murder.that is bullshit.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 09:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You can fool yourself by calling it; supporting Israel in defending themselves.

I support Israel's right to defend themselves too, but they have abused that right from day one. Now they have long passed the legal qualification of 'defending a country' and much violated the laws of war against 'war crimes' and 'genocide'.

And we don't need a doctor to inspect the brains of children, that are splattered around Gaza, to see if they were terrorists or not.
By phart at 13,Apr,24 22:53 other posts of phart 
NO but unless you can figure out how to get hamas, the elected government of gaza,to stop killing Israelis, then hush and let them clean up the vermin.
By CAT-2 at 14,Apr,24 19:23 other posts of CAT-2 
There is a limit to what's defensive actions an even retaliation. Anything else is a crime against humanity.
By phart at 14,Apr,24 19:32 other posts of phart 
Yep, riding into a crowd of people listening to music and grabbing women to rap# and shooting and killing from hang gliders is a crime against humanity and it was done by the governing body of gaza. just like a cancer ,the only cure is removal and destruction.
All I hear is people asking israel to stop, no one has ask iran or hamas to stop have they? Um?
By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 00:10 other posts of CAT-2 
First, there are countless number of people that has asked Hamas to stop.
Second, the people of Gaza are mostly innocent non-combatant s.
Third, why are you so sanguine? Every time there's some type of confrontational conflict, you want one side to anihiliate the other and the "other" is the ones you don't like.
Fourth, you never advice the combatants to try to work out a peaceful solution. This is true from police/perrp confrontations to genocide a la Israeli/Gaza. Shame on you, friend. What has happened to you in your life that you can't be at least a little compassionate?
By phart at 15,Apr,24 03:41 other posts of phart 
Compassion would be a wonderful thing.
BUT every time you try to show compassion you get walked on by whoever you had shown it to because they interpret it as weakness and use it against you.
you try to just live and let live and they are just sharpening their knives and fueling up their hang gliders to use to kill you.
terrorist know Americans and others are "compassionate" that's why terrorism works so well against us.
By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Apr,24 09:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Man, you are delusional. America was not trying to show compassion,
when the terrorists were walking all over you. The US has created that breeding ground for terrorism for decades, by propping up extremist Muslims to leaders of Middle Eastern countries and toppling moderate democratically elected leaders, so you could take their oil a bit cheaper.
They hate you, because they have a good reason to hate you and it's not because they don't like your freedom, but because you destroyed their chances of freedom.
Any time you try to fight terrorism, you create even more of it.

By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 12:08 other posts of CAT-2 
My question stands, "What happened to you to make you such a pessimist?"
By phart at 15,Apr,24 16:45 other posts of phart 
I would consider myself a realist more so than pessimist. Look at what is real and what has happened and learn from it, don't make those mistakes, don't repeat those actions.
By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 17:16 other posts of CAT-2 
Still, my question stands. I've been through a lot in my life and I'm not like you. But, before you say it's me, everyone that chats with you says the same thing.
By phart at 15,Apr,24 20:01 other posts of phart 
Well, perhaps it is our reactions to what has happened to us over our life times.
You take a passive approach and never learn from your experience's , I take a defensive approach meant to prevent those things from happening again.

By phart at 18,Apr,24 18:40 other posts of phart 
My question to you is what happened to cause you to be so naive and trusting of other people?
And unable to see danger until to late?
By CAT-2 at 18,Apr,24 22:29 other posts of CAT-2 
I'm not naive but I've always said, " treat me right and I'll treat you right. Only a miniscule number of people turned out to be untrustworthy or dangerous or both. Why go around with fear all your life? It's a poor life.



By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Apr,24 15:38 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Then learn from decades of failing policies and come up with better solutions.
By phart at 16,Apr,24 19:26 other posts of phart 
The problems keep changing, every time you learn the game the goal post get moved.
We didn't have the men trying to be women competing in women's sports 20 years ago.
We didn't have Fentanyl coming over the border in women's pussys tied up in baggys until recently
we didn't have immigrant swimming across the water as often as we do now.
People are stealing right and left and no justice.

Years ago I was able to work for a living,had alot more say in what I did and how I did it, no failures on my part,just circumstances beyond my control.
I am so sick of watching my friends suffer economicaly,
sick of watching the street fall apart while biden and his ilk want to build more solar farms and have us walk while eating tofu.
Just a whole barrage of issues in life that have molded me to not be the "nice " guy folks think I should be
By CAT-2 at 16,Apr,24 21:37 other posts of CAT-2 
So, according to you, all this started three years ago. No other president or Congress had to deal with this. Where have you been hiding?

By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Apr,24 10:22 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Biden is spending billions on infrastructure and you associate him
with 'watching the street fall apart'?

You are sick of watching your friends suffer economically?
Why are they suffering economically? Are their costs too high
and their income too low? How about increasing wages then?
Oh, no no no no, that would be expensive for their employers!
How about lowering their costs of education and healthcare and rent and insurances, by regulating the companies who make record profits over their backs and then call it inflation?
Oh, no no no no, that would be socialism!
Well, let them suffer the system that you support then!

You accuse Biden of the problems that your support for
the trickle down economy fantasy has caused.

WHEN will those millionaires, who now all turned into billionaires, finally start paying their employees more? Did they do that, every time their taxes were lowered by every Republican president? Will they start doing it, when they pay 0% taxes and turn into trillionaires?
Of course not, you will just pay more taxes, to make up for
all the wealthy people who pay no taxes.

They told you it would happen and it didn't. Every decade, the middle class became poorer and poorer, while the rich and wealthy became richer and wealthier. THEY LIED TO YOU, but you blame Biden.

Is this caused by transgenders competing in women's sports?
Are we talking about 2 or 3, at an actually important level?
Like that has caused your friends suffering economically.
Of course not, it's the bullshit distractions they tell you,
to keep you voting for the horrible politicians who actually
caused your friends suffering economically.









By Ananas2xLekker at 15,Apr,24 09:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
When are you going to understand that it is impossible to fight the symptoms of a diseased society. Bombing terrorists only creates more terrorists. Even if you kill all Palestinians, including all hamas terrorists, you are just creating fertile grounds for poverty stricken Muslims in all the Middle East to join some terrorist organization.

'Vermin' is straight up Nazi speech. If the supporters of a Jewish nation
are using that speech, something has gone horribly wrong.
Stop acting like the evil side in history.
By phart at 15,Apr,24 16:47 other posts of phart 
What else could you call someone that just drives or flys into a concert and starts killing innocent people or taking them hostage?
There is that "compassion and empathy thing,"oh they are just upset muslims making a statement.
No they are EVIL subhumans. Vermin is a compliment.
By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 19:58 other posts of CAT-2 
The individual(s) are evil. The majority are good people.
By phart at 15,Apr,24 20:02 other posts of phart 
But how are you going to weed them out.When hamas props it's self up UNDER a fucking hospital?
By Ananas2xLekker at 18,Apr,24 09:14 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You don't! You cannot destroy terrorism by bombing people.
The only way to fight terrorists is taking away the reason for them.
As long as people are suffering and being oppressed, they will support terrorists. That's the term for the 'freedom fighters', from the other side.
They are always poor and uncivilized people, who kill in a personal way,
with knives and rifles, instead of in a civilized, impersonal way, with a rocket, a bomb, or a shell, from a plane, helicopter, drone or tank. That's because knives, rifles are the only weapons they have. They are called terrorists, because they do terror. The overwhelming power they fight does even more terror, but that's considered legitimate and in response of their terror.

Haven't you seen films like Star Wars?
Israel is The Empire, oppressing Palestine. The rebels killed many storm-troopers, even a whole Death Star with probably many people on it who were just living their lives, working for the empire. Those rebels, like Luke Skywalker and Han Solo, killed many people who were just serving for the glory and expansion of the empire, while the terrorists and the people who protect them stood in their way. That's why the empire blew up the whole planet of Alderaan, with all those filthy terrorist sympathizers on it.
All those primitive people calling themselves freedom-fighters, while they were standing in the way of a glorious, modern, democratic empire.
(Well, it was democratic, but in war, the president requires all the power,
so the senate and courts relinquished all power to Emperor Palpatine.)
Death to those filthy rebels! Kill them all, and everyone supporting them!

Movies most of the time position the rebels as the good guys. That's just storytelling and not realistic. People fighting against oppression are often traumatized hateful extremists, doing despicable things, to maximize their impact, because they are fighting against impossible odds. However, they are fighting for what they think is freedom for their people, to live the way they want to live, against an oppressor with many times the strength and power, that has behaved without any respect for their lives and rights,
and has caused many more death. That oppressor just has power and information reporting on their side, which provides them with legitimacy
in the eyes of people on their side. People, who think they are the good guys by definition, only look at the actions of the other side and never think about the actions of their own side.

Or maybe you have not seen Star Wars, because it was 'woke'.
Woke means being conscious of oppression, inequality and injustice.
Some people like oppression, inequality and injustice, if it's not them.
Or they think they don't deserve humanity, because they are inferior.
That's how all the dark, evil empires start, by calling people 'vermin'.
You're already a stage further; calling for extermination of the 'vermin'.
By phart at 18,Apr,24 12:16 other posts of phart 
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Have you got what it takes to hide yourself under a dead body?
I don't give a damn how oppressed you are,you don't go killing innocent people to try to earn respect.
I was 49 or 50 years old before I watched star wars i bought at a yard sale, and frankly never saw what was so great about it.

You seem to think if the terrorist were given what they want they would become followers of Mr Rogers and live peacefully.
You are so naive. When they kill, that is a thrill to them,it's like drugs and getting high. Kill ,kill , destroy


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"terrorists have shared a “dark form of fascination with destruction and killing,” a “death worship” transcending ideology, she told her students.:
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Uh just what would you "remove" to get rid of that "fascination" of killing ?

That is the issue with empathy, it prompts you to think that with a little love we could turn Jack the Ripper into a opera singer.
By Ananas2xLekker at 19,Apr,24 11:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That sucks. But your argument is just that two wrongs make a right.
Did anyone actually research WHY those people killed themselves?
If it trauma, from being in that horrible situation, then do some research on how many Palestines are committing suicide.

Everyone has what it takes to hide yourself under a dead body,
that's what you do in situations like that. Or you freeze and die.

I didn't say Star Wars was great. Some episodes are, especially for the time, some are less good. I just referred to it, because it delivers the story of rebellion against oppression so clearly. It's literally framing a dark and a light side (of the force). I would say, it's the one SciFi genre that has told that good vs bad story the best. I have enjoyed every episode, mostly because I just like SciFi, but personally I prefer movies where the struggle between good and bad is more complicated. Recently, series have been doing a good job of it. I liked Game of Thrones, The Witcher and Vikings.

You seem to think that terrorists are being born as evil bloodthirsty people or that they are born as normal humans and just decide to become an evil bloodthirsty person one day. That doesn't happen. Hate doesn't just happen. Hate needs a breeding ground. That breeding ground in Palestine is easy for anyone to see, unless you really don't want to.
I have talked about it before at length. It doesn't require much empathy (not sympathy) to understand that being in the situation that Palestinians have lived in for decades now, would case them to hate Israel. A situation like that is a breeding ground for terrorists. That breeding ground will only become more fertile, when innocent people are murdered. I understand that this happened on Israeli side too. Then we end on two wrongs don't make a right again. Someone has to end that chain of violence, and that isn't the people without any power, but the people who control everything: Israel, with unconditional support of America. The US could make that support conditional.

You keep thinking that genocide of all Palestinians will end the chain of violence. There are about 5 million Palestinians. If they are all killed,
there will probably not be Hamas anymore. Congratulations, there are 500 million more Muslims in the world. Doing a genocide against Muslims, will create a breeding ground for many terrorists among them.
Trump's friend MBS is already funding them, for the next 9/11.
By phart at 19,Apr,24 22:40 other posts of phart 
The only way to create trauma for terrorist is to put them in a padded room and run iv tubes in them for food and water and play Barny the dinosaur videos 24-7.
They ENJOY killing ,they like to kill.
They were born into a killing environment.
Kill the infedels is what they grow up learning.
How can you change that?
We don't have any more nazi camps burning Jews do we?
Gee I wonder why? It could be because we bombed the hell out of the germans into submission.

HOW could you change the Palestinians situation?
DO THEY EVEN WANT IT CHANGED?
By CAT-2 at 20,Apr,24 22:24 other posts of CAT-2 
Could it also be that millions of Russians fought and died to make sure Nazi Germany was totally destroyed?







By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Apr,24 15:41 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Those are not the 35,000 Palestinians who Israel has killed untill now.
You are literally asking for a genocide, THAT'S evil!
By CAT-2 at 16,Apr,24 21:40 other posts of CAT-2 
Hear hear



By phart at 15,Apr,24 20:41 other posts of phart 
you keep looking at "me" as in conservatives for answers when your side hasn't had any luck with your ideas either.
Evil is something that needs to be decimated, not played with.
By CAT-2 at 16,Apr,24 01:25 other posts of CAT-2 
Yes, but you don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
By phart at 16,Apr,24 03:12 other posts of phart 
Ok so how do you tell the "baby" from the evil 1's?


Besides, we have a tool for that now,
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By Ananas2xLekker at 16,Apr,24 16:10 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
To give you a compliment; you ARE the only conservative with some ideas here, the rest is just calling bullshit and flipping. However, if killing everyone is your best solution, than understand that it hurts Israel too. If they do that, many people will hate Israel for ever. Speaking for myself, I do not judge any Jew for this personally, but antisemitism is rising like crazy, because of what Israel is doing as a state.

Criticism of the state of Israel is NOT antisemitism. I now consider that state to be part of the axis of evil, on par with all the Muslim extremist dictatorships.
I will support sanctions against them and boycot them. Only if they ever judge the war criminals and learn from history, like Germany has, will I ever consider them a part of my world again.

There are only two ways out of this misery:
1) A two state solution, where Palestinians are not under control of Israel, protected by a Middle Eastern Treaty Organization (similar to our NATO),
that protects the borders of Palestine against Israel's aggression. No wall with Israeli snipers on it, killing children, but an international defense force.
2) Israel negotiates with the rest of the world, to take on every Palestinian refugee, Israel pays massive reparations to those refugees to settle in another country and pays those countries to accept them. Then they can have Gaza. I'm talking about at least $ 200 billion. For another $ 200 billion they can have the West Bank.
By phart at 16,Apr,24 19:33 other posts of phart 
If there is so much concern for the "palestinians" , why not carve out a section of Niger or Zimbabwe and let them move there and have their own country to rule and live in?
You will not be able to put both of those groups near each other and have peace for any length of time.
a israeli will throw a rock at the palestinian that killed his brother 7 months from the time all that was put together and start the whole ruckus again.
MILES and sand to separate them in 2 different places will bring a better world for all.

To be frank, peace in that part of the world is a fantasy only surpassed by something silly like me being Paris Hiltons husband.
I think this episode of star trek relates to the crap in israel or that region in general
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By CAT-2 at 16,Apr,24 21:32 other posts of CAT-2 
WTF do you have against the Nigerians or Zimbabweans? They are sovereign countries. How about we carve out a huge section of the Carolinas and let them establish their own state/country?
By phart at 16,Apr,24 22:30 other posts of phart 
oh I have nothing against those people, it is just large open desert, should be plenty of room
Why not florida?

besides aren't the Palestinians just miss understood and hated because of myths and propaganda? where is your empathy for these loving people that just want to live in "piece" as in blow everyone to pieces?


By Ananas2xLekker at 17,Apr,24 06:36 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
As Trump_Supporter was saying that Israelites have a claim to that area of land, because of in his mind 6000 years of history of living there, Palestinians also have a long history of living in that area. Very likely, most of them have a thicker genetic line to the original inhabitants from 6000 years ago than the people who call themselves Israelites now.

Israel started the hostilities by creating a Jewish state in an area that has never been purely Jewish and then for decades expanding their land at the detriment of the Palestinians that already lived there.
It's not a bothsides (fallacy) issue of two peoples who refuse to live in peace together, it's a one-side issue of an apartheid state, that intended to take whole the area for itself, from day one.
It's the failing of international law to have let that happen, but that's mostly because Christian Americans consider that area the promised land too and agreed with purifying it for Jews, because of a prophesy they created.
Europe didn't do much to help the Palestinians either, probably because there are also lots of Christians in Europe who consider the area Jewish, because of Christianity. That and guilt for the holocaust.

It's nonsense to propose creating another state for Palestinians somewhere. It's what you did with the native Americans, but the rest of the world doesn't agree with repeating that crime against humanity.
Although, it's a better idea than your first, of just eradicating them all.

Peace is difficult, that doesn't make it futile to try, it's necessary for humanity's continued existence. As long as wars distract us from solving climate change, we keep acting like Thelma & Louise.
















By phart at 20,Apr,24 16:08 other posts of phart 
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So much for rules and laws. The atf claims the man shot at them, says 1 was wounded and they shot the man that was a gun salesman.
BUT no video cams on the officers ,A direct violation of their own policy's. How convenient. BUT we are expected to trust our government. This is just another case that indicates you have good reason NOT to when they don't even follow their own rules..
By CAT-2 at 20,Apr,24 22:22 other posts of CAT-2 
So what's your point?



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Walls don't keep undesirables out. 🤣🤣😈


By phart at 18,Apr,24 18:42 other posts of phart 
I would think even a kid would know something with teeth is not a rock?
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By phart at 18,Apr,24 02:29 other posts of phart 
I just read that AOC is going to start using all lower case letters to help fight capitalism.
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By leopoldij at 11,Apr,24 23:54 other posts of leopoldij 
Here's something positive rewarding the gun culture in the US.

US to end 'gun show loophole' that allows sales without background checks

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By CAT-2 at 12,Apr,24 02:09 other posts of CAT-2 
It's about time.
By leopoldij at 12,Apr,24 02:28 other posts of leopoldij 
Let's see how the resident extreme right winger will find a way to defend those selling guns without background checks.
By Ananas2xLekker at 12,Apr,24 13:15 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Easy, just hold up the funding for the background checks.
It still requires some government officials to perform them,
which costs money that they can easily cut or reallocate.
Then the one overworked junior pencil-pusher just rubber-stamps them.
And then they can say background checks don't work either.
By leopoldij at 13,Apr,24 23:28 other posts of leopoldij 
I am wondering why you engage in discussion with people like phart when you know very well the he's never going to accept anything that you logically explain to him: he's merely unable to do so. I am wondering about your motives.

My motives are simple, albeit cynical. I don't expect any kind of rational response from him. But I find it interesting to see how low a human being can fall. How it's possible to have lost all kinds of freedom and free will due to continuous indoctrination and due to being in a place where he's kept ignorant of anything that's happening in the world. It's like observing a human who, unfortunately, has been lobotomized.
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P.S. so much so that the label "human" seizes to apply.
By Ananas2xLekker at 14,Apr,24 18:44 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Don't be discouraged, people like phart have been turning away from their indoctrination every single day. Maybe my arguments won't change his mind,
but they might change someone else's mind.

When you look at religion, it's actually more the extremist religions that are losing followers at high rates, than the moderate religions. That's because the gap between extremism and reality is larger than the gap between moderate views and reality. MAGA is a cult, centered around a cultisch character: Trump. Many Republicans are sick of him. They are starting to see that he is awful and useless.

In The Netherlands, during the pandemic, the number of crazy conspiracy believing, right-wing nutcases, exploded like locusts. Our craziest right-wing party, Forum for Democracy, had it's best support since it's start. Many conspiracy websites and YouTube channels even attracted people who never shared their ideas. After the end of the pandemic, most of the people, who engaged in those ideas, saw that none of their predictions became reality, recognized what a stupid bunch of lunatics and conmen the instigators were and mostly returned to normalcy. Unfortunately, many of them still retained a framework of distrust in the government and a predilection towards right-wing populism, which is why our less extreme populist party; Party for Freedom was elected to the largest party. The cabinet formation is now 142 days ongoing, and we are hearing report after report of the Party for Freedom dropping the most important promises that the Dutch people support by majority and voted for them on, while there are other promises they are still trying to keep, which have much smaller support. I think they are losing support fast this way.

My strategy is always talking to people who have different opinions than me, instead of calling them liars or stupid. Still, when they are making shit arguments or don’t even try to support their position, we should keep telling them, without stooping to the same level. I think it’s important for people who know they are on the side of logic, to keep supporting the system of logic and denounce insolence, partisanship and dishonesty.
By phart at 14,Apr,24 19:39 other posts of phart 
Well,your side needs to be a bit more realistic as well.
You put way to much trust into a group of "elected" officials when in reality, they are ALL looking out for themselves in some way or another .No decent person is going to be in politics. you just have to pic the snake in the grass that is similar to your values.
If Kennedy and Reagon were running for office in 2024,it would be a tough race,for good reasons. we would have good men on both sides.
Although I would not want to go fishing with Trump, he is a much better choice than biden to bring America closer to the America I grew up in instead of this horrible night mare i am in right now.

Leo,a man like you that finds it so much fun to call people facist and nazi's will have a much harder time changing anyone's mind about anything than anannas. No I don't agree with what he says, but he is educated and has reasons for his thoughts and experiance.and conveys. You just call someone a bad thing and walk around like a bantam rooster that just gigged 5 hens.
you do little to help your cause,if you even have 1 .
By CAT-2 at 15,Apr,24 00:22 other posts of CAT-2 
Phart, the America you grew up with was a homophobic, racist, alienating, egotistic, society. Now the Clown has brought us back 50 years. It's a crime.





By phart at 13,Apr,24 22:55 other posts of phart 
A lawyer wouldn't be able to convince you of right and wrong because you think you know more than everyone else.
BUT as for selling a gun, a hammer, or a car, if the owner wants to sell it, and the buyer wants it, then money exchanges hands.
Besides the background checks are a joke.only thing it does is confirm rather or not they are felons. They could sick minded taking all kinds of pills and the back ground check wouldn't help a bit to prevent a crime.

There should be back ground checks in place. Along with mental healh screenings and meds screening.BUT the government should have a booth setup at the gun show and run these checks real time so commerce can commence.long waits are stupid. If that is the case, you should have to wait a week to rent a uhaul truck since it can be used to commit a terrorist attack for example.
if you are on psychotropic drugs, you don't need to be buying a gun,you are a loose cannon.
By leopoldij at 13,Apr,24 23:23 other posts of leopoldij 
You know what? If you Americans want to keep shooting one another and have the largest number of mass murders/shootings and largest number of guns in the world, then keep doing that. I don't give a shit.

What I find extremely interesting is the existence of such fascistoids like you in America that I want to keep poking in order to see what kind of ridiculous response they'll give so I can collect data about your likes. You're pathetic.

It's also fascinating to see how perverted your mind can become, by it being indoctrinated by constant propaganda, say after day. You and your likes have reached the vegetable state and nothing can be done to make you free again. You live in subjugation, you lost your freedom, it's only fear that can affect your brain.
By phart at 13,Apr,24 23:24 other posts of phart 
You are the fucking lab rat my friend.
You are the 1 that doesn't resist the liberal ideals,
don't think for yourself at all. Just take whatever a scientist tells you as the gospel.
By leopoldij at 13,Apr,24 23:29 other posts of leopoldij 
Ok. Thanks.
By phart at 13,Apr,24 23:33 other posts of phart 
no problem.
You serve a greater purpose leo than you could ever imagine.
You remind us of the dangers of complacency and tolerance of liberal ideology.









By CAT-2 at 14,Apr,24 20:56 other posts of CAT-2 
Who would have thought. The women of SIO are providing a health benefit to the male members. 🤣🤣🤣

"Orgasms are pretty great, but for men it turns out ejaculating very regularly could also significantly reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

In fact, if you ejaculate once every day you really limit the chances, while another study suggests that a staggering 21 orgasms a month reduces the likelihood of prostate cancer by 20%"

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I’ll have to remember that in case I get caught at work! 🤣

The Canadian Cancer Society had an advertising campaign for men and prostate cancer and their tagline was “Don’t die of embarrassment”.
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By CAT-2 at 14,Apr,24 19:11 other posts of CAT-2 
Who would have thought. The women of SIO are providing a health benefit to the male members. 🤣🤣🤣

"Orgasms are pretty great, but for men it turns out ejaculating very regularly could also significantly reduce the risk of prostate cancer.

In fact, if you ejaculate once every day you really limit the chances, while another study suggests that a staggering 21 orgasms a month reduces the likelihood of prostate cancer by 20%"


By leopoldij at 11,Apr,24 15:05 other posts of leopoldij 
More good news.
Looks like trump's 175 million dollar bond may be fake!

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How cool would that be if it were true? Let's pray it is.
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“Incomprehensible”: Experts say Trump’s $175 million bond makes no sense
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Trump’s $175 Million Fraud Bond Could Be Invalidated If Insurance Company Doesn’t Prove It Can Cover It
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By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 11:57 other posts of leopoldij 
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Great verdict: European court rules human rights violated by climate inaction. It's time that governments and companies started paying big time. When they start losing money they may realise they have to do something.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 14:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
I think you copy pasted the incorrect link. That's Arnold.

I've heard of the European court ruling against climate inaction, but it's only applicable to Switzerland in this case. It is however a good sign for governments and companies to do more, but they can also interpret it as doing enough, until they get reprimanded by the courts. The courts won't save us, until the voters demand change. Unfortunately, they keep voting for politicians who do the absolute minimum, even when the courts tell them to do more.
By leopoldij at 09,Apr,24 17:37 other posts of leopoldij 
Yes, you're right. I made a mistake. I watched Arnold's video and liked it very much.

Here's the correct link.
It's a start.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 19:21 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Good article. I didn't know that Greta Thunberg was involved with it.
I hadn't heard about her for a while. Everyone's favorite angry teen.
If she was supporting right-wing causes, they would carry her around on a throne.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 19:37 other posts of phart 
No most of us would think she was a babbling idiot like that noisy marjoire, "spelling"

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She is a real role model aint she? Can't stay out of trouble Why can't she go get a fucking job and shut the fuck up already? Her parents taught her what to say and how to act just a damn dancing monkey or a parrot .She aint old enough or educated enough to make any knowledgeable statements about anything.
If she would get a college education, and have some years under her belt and stop squeaking like a little tiny toy when she talks more people might listen.
By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 08:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Ever listened to Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert?
Two fully grown adults, making even more noise, but then without knowledge.
You would think they are old enough or educated enough to make any knowledgeable statements about anything, but they are just parroting a political agenda from their wealthy donors and conspiracy theories from Breitbart.




By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 15:52 other posts of CAT-2 
Serves me right for trusting a post without checking the URL.


By phart at 09,Apr,24 19:44 other posts of phart 
Human rights are also being violated by climate action.
The US Constitution clearly states I have the right to pursue happiness. How can I when fuel and transportations cost are being inflated beyond affordable?
How can I be happy if i can't buy the food I want because it happens to be meat?

"Is the 9th Amendment life liberty and pursuit of happiness?
THAT all men are born equally free and independent, and have certain inherent natural rights, of which they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; among which are, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety."

I know leo would be happy if he never had to walk, work and had free food and housing and all the pussy he could handle . but other peoples happiness involves different things.
Why infringe on my freedom just so you can be happy?
there is no right answer.
All this climate change stuff is brought about to gain control of the people.
Control their movements, their diets, their lifestyles.
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 18:10 other posts of CAT-2 
The US Constitution says you have “the right to the pursuit of happiness”, that implies that there are caveats. After all. There are many evil people that are happy to klll innocent people.
Remember, when the Constitution was written, the modes of transportation were walking, riding a horse or a horse drawn wagon. If you don’t like the cost of gas, walk.
“Is the 9th Amendment life liberty and pursuit of happiness?” Not quite, it means that there are other rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution that are just as valid like the right to travel, the right to vote, the right to keep personal matters private and to make important decisions about you private life.
That has nothing to do with you being too poor to afford Ribeye steaks. The only
right you have, in that case, is your right to seek help so you don’t starve.
However, following your reasoning, then I say that women wanting to follow their pursuit of happiness should be allowed to have an abortion.
"All this climate change stuff is brought about to gain control of the people.
Control their movements, their diets, their lifestyles."
Stuff? Are you such an ostrich like person that you can say that? Unbelievable
By phart at 10,Apr,24 21:12 other posts of phart 
Not a ostrich,YOUR head is in the sand,or at least i hope the sand and not your ass,
IF the right is not written in plain english in the constitution, where is it written that it is "implied". that sounds like interpretation, not facts.


By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 22:34 other posts of CAT-2 
The US Constitution states that you have “the right to the pursuit of happiness”, that implies that there are caveats. After all. There are many evil people that are happy to klll innocent people.
Remember, when the Constitution was written, the modesty of transportation were walking, riding a horse or a wagon. If you don’t like the cost of gas, walk.
“Is the 9th Amendment life liberty and pursuit of happiness?” Not quite, it means that there are other rights that are not mentioned in the Constitution that are just as valid like the right to travel, the right to vote, the right to keep personal matters private and to make important decisions about you private life.
That has nothing to do with you being too poor to afford Ribeye steaks. The only
right you have is your right to seek help so you don’t starve.
All this climate change stuff is brought about to gain control of the people.
Control their movements, their diets, their lifestyles.

My question is, “How?
By phart at 11,Apr,24 03:32 other posts of phart 
cat,you aint that dumb, you can't even fake it.I know you ant that dumb. THe government controls you by creating situations that allow control thru econmics.
You have enough sense to know fuel could be cheaper in the US, it is the regulations on drilling and building refinerys that control supply and thus price.


Now tell me please, where does it say that rights not mentioned are valid?
By CAT-2 at 11,Apr,24 11:42 other posts of CAT-2 
The 9th amendment. Building of refineries are controlled by the oil companies.



By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Apr,24 09:18 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
You would be right that climate action would be violating your right to pursue happiness, if anyone was actually making that impossible with climate action. No one is!

Or, at least, no one is forces to do that YET. Waiting longer in enacting sufficing climate actions WILL force humanity to resort to climate actions that WILL violate our rights to pursue happiness. When you ar trying to stop an out of control train speeding to a collapsed bridge, it becomes harder to save the passengers the longer you wait.

Meanwhile, your right to pursue happiness is already violated, by a culture of hating poor people and worshiping money and wealthy people, which you support yourself.

The impact of climate actions need to be balanced with the impact of inaction. My right and your right to pursue happiness is not more important than the right to pursue happiness of children who deserve a similar future that we had when we were children.
There is more than enough wealth in your country to protect your right to pursue happiness from the actions that are needed to protect the children's and future generations' right to pursue happiness.

When climate inaction spares our remaining years of our right to pursue happiness, it will take away many decades of those children's right to pursue happiness. And their right to pursue happiness will be much more violated than your worst fears of how your right to pursue happiness might be violated.

The only way to deny that is to deny science or hang on to some slither of doubt that has been wildly exaggerated for political purposes. You are talking about the law, which should make decisions based on evidence and science, not on your weak arguments.




By kebmo at 11,Apr,24 05:50 other posts of kebmo 
I don’t understand why some Republicans don’t want to support Ukraine. I thought the plan was to make machinery, guns and weapons in the United States, creating US jobs and then sending it to Ukraine.

The plan is not to send them billions of dollars in cash.

Russia invaded a sovereign nation.


By Sir-Skittles at 10,Apr,24 21:25 other posts of Sir-Skittles 
You saggy cunt


By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 18:19 other posts of CAT-2 
Crude prices have pushed higher in recent months amid continued production cuts by oil alliance OPEC+, attacks on Russian refineries, and continued cargo interruptions along the Red Sea region.

Biden should step down from being the CEO of OPEC and let Trump Jr take over

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By Gntlmn at 10,Apr,24 19:47 other posts of Gntlmn 
🤣✔️😂

By phart at 10,Apr,24 21:03 other posts of phart 
No he should not have shut down the Keystone pipeline, It would be about finished by now,and I am willing to bet the fact that we could get more oil without opec,the prices would not be as inflated.
Gas jumped from 3.14 to 3.49 over night. bastards. right about the time people are able to get out and TRY to fucking enjoy life a bit

Imagine if the US was 3 worldish, we would just kidnap a few oil exec's and the price would drop to pennys.



By phart at 10,Apr,24 02:49 other posts of phart 
Cat,I am sorry to break the news to you like this. I think I made reference to this sort of thing a few weeks ago and you told me things about NPR and you felt it was a good source for info.
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"An NPR editor blowing the whistle on the left-leaning outlet's biased coverage says voter registration records showed an astonishing disparity between Democrats and Republicans in the newsroom: 87 to zero."


Now, please help me and others out here, just how are we to have faith in NPR giving us unbiased information?
By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 15:45 other posts of CAT-2 
Don’t be sorry, Phart. I see why you have reservations about NPR, but, here’s the other side of the story.

NPR Fires Back at Staffer’s Missive About Left-Wing ‘Miscues’

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Chapin, NPR’s top editor, fired back at Berliner’s dismissal of the outlet’s diversity initiatives, saying in her memo that “exploring the diverse perspectives that drive world events is necessary to our public service mission.”

“That’s why we have built in processes to verify accuracy and why we adhere to the highest editorial standards,” she wrote. “It’s why we have a standards and practices editor as well as a public editor to stand-in for the audience. It’s why we track sources—so we can expand the diversity of perspectives in our reporting. We have these internal debates, enforce strong editorial standards, and engage in processes that measure our work precisely because we recognize that nobody has the ‘view from nowhere.’”

Phart, this organization has always told the truth. The way they tell it may sound biased, especially the MAGA crowd, but, ask yourself why is it that way? If you base your political and national views on one organization, even if it’s one like NPR, then you will never have the whole picture.
Regardless of this editor whistle blower, his position is flawed because of one truth. Biased or not, the articles or reports by NPR can be verified in many other news sources and only a hard right news outlet like FOX NEWS, a proven news outlet heavily leaning toward Trump, would bring this to the light of day. Why? To discredit truthful reporting.
Now, you, Phart, can do whatever you like. No one is forcing you to listen to what NPR has to say, but, don’t come here and tell us your choice of news outlets are not biased.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 17:34 other posts of phart 
Add this to the mix,
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By CAT-2 at 10,Apr,24 18:11 other posts of CAT-2 
And?
By phart at 10,Apr,24 20:58 other posts of phart 
Insert a "DUH" here.
soro's, owning American media sources? you don't see a problem?
That is the fox buying controlling stock in your hen house.






By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 08:09 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Arnold Schwarzenegger's 'Anti-Hate' Message
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By phart at 09,Apr,24 11:28 other posts of phart 
Ok, please be sure that the black people watch this that hate and blame the whites for everything wrong in their lives.

and uh how about passing this along to the muslims that shouting they hate us? thanks

I know,you could spread these words like butter on toast, but neither of those 2 groups would pay any attention.


he has a couple details a bit off but for the most part, most of the world does need to hear that message.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 14:20 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
That's you now blaming them for blaming you, which is already a generalization
in the first place. First and foremost, because most black people succeed in life,
despite white people still aggravating their challenges.

I have not ever seen any post from any black person blaming white people here,
for anything wrong in society. I have only seen white people blaming black people
or immigrants or anyone else besides themselves, but especially the most powerless people in the world, for whatever is wrong in society.

You're doing exactly what Arnold is talking about.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 14:41 other posts of phart 
SO ARE YOU.
I only ask that the message be passed along to those that need to see it.
We both understand hate is a bad thing. But so is dishonesty.
Who writes history? Who tells us what is happening each day?
People with bias and anterior motives on all sides.
How can we stop the hate,if we can't even get the truth about what the hate is based on??
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 15:30 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
When am I blaming the most powerless people in the world, for whatever is wrong
in society?

The world is controlled by powerful people. Everyone else only has a tiny impact on the world. Sure, if all of those people chose to do the best they can, the world improves a lot, but their impact is still reduced by an incredible amount by the powerful people.

You say it yourself, that you don't have the money to buy an electric car, buy a heat-pump and eat healthy and tasty plant-based food. That's applicable to a majority of the people. It's up to the powerful people to change what's causing that problem, by changing the priorities away from providing almost unlimited profits to a few wealthy people, to making sure everyone has money to make the right choices in life.

That's why I'm blaming the wealthy powerful people for a lot that is wrong in society. Those people actually have the power and thus the responsibility to change those things.

You just keep blaming people who are, just like you, limited by the system from doing the best they can. They are surely not all doing the best they can, but even their best wouldn't be enough of what we need. Moreover, you are asking people to do their best, while they are reduced to struggling for survival.

I know that I am not doing the best I can, but almost no one is.
That's because we all have other priorities in life than sacrificing our lives for everyone else. No one should be expected to do that. It only requires some of the wealth and power from those wealthy people, still leaving them with much more than all the rest of us, to change the world enough, so everyone else can make that change more easily.
By phart at 09,Apr,24 20:12 other posts of phart 
Ok, so in the morning, Jeff Beso's has to give up 3/4ths of his fortune and deposit 100 dollars into every bank account on earth.
Thursday morning Elon musk has to do the same,put a 100 bucks into every bank account on earth.

and so on until it comes down to YOU and ME having to give up 3/4th of our fortunes and deposit equal amounts of it into every bank account on earth.

Ok, so once this process is complete. What would the changes be?
The dollar would be worth about 2 cents for about 6 months as demand for everything from new Hannes underware to Boeing 747s' would increase 400 fold.
At the end of that 6 months, or le'ts be generous and give it 6 more,make it a year, I am willing to bet Jeff Beso's, Elon musk,and others like them would be nearly back to where they were. Even with different laws and regulations in place.
Why, Because they would sell the products and services people wanted,and profit from it,and reinvest it. Those that didn't have shit before,probably would have a bunch of shit they couldn't pay taxes on the next year.
Wealthy people are not wealthy just because they are evil,it is because they take the time to get educated and take risk you would be scared shittless to take.
By Ananas2xLekker at 09,Apr,24 21:13 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Of course it doesn't work like that, you are just ridiculing a well thought out system.

The whole idea that an Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk should control like a dictator all those people putting in their labor for the profit of people who don't do a day of work, IS WRONG.

They don't EARN their money they TAKE that money. Some of them once had a good idea or have actual talent, but it's never valuable enough to justify their piece of the pie. Your idea of that risk is nonsense, most wealthy people risk the money of investors and shareholders and stand to lose nothing or little, when they fuck up. That's only applicable to small business owners.
Not most wealthy people are evil, but most of them are sick from greed.
They are just taking what they can, you are the dumb-ass that support the systems that allows them to do that.
By phart at 10,Apr,24 02:12 other posts of phart 
How many POOR people do you work for to earn a living?
if there were no wealthy people,there would be few jobs and not much of a living to be made.Poor people don't own companys, poor people can't afford 20 bucks a hour to flip burgers.
By Ananas2xLekker at 10,Apr,24 10:43 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
The same old excuse, so tiring. Almost no one gets hired by a poor person, because we are living in CAPITALISM.

Capitalism is a system where wealthy people own everything,
so of course in that system, everyone is working for wealthy people.

In medieval feudalism everyone was 'hired' by the king, because that was
the system then. In ancient Egypt everyone was working for the Pharaoh, because that was the system then.

If the capital is socialized, we would all be working to enlarge the public capital,
so we'd publicly invest in companies who provide the jobs. Then we all get to vote for representatives who make the best investments in OUR NAME, to create the companies who add the most value FOR US and for humanity, instead of to further enrich a few selfish people, who were born with a silver spoon in their mouth.

Poor people are a result of inequality, which is a result of authoritarian ownership. Democratically controlled public ownership doesn't support that inequality. People would get paid for the need of their labor. Without burgerflippers, you don't have a burger restaurant, so they are essential. The CEO of McDonalds isn't essential; there are many better restaurants without a CEO.










By CAT-2 at 08,Apr,24 15:10 other posts of CAT-2 
/polls/4808.html

It’s unbelievable. I never imagined this would be so popular.

Total Votes: 70
Total Voters: 54


By CAT-2 at 07,Apr,24 16:22 other posts of CAT-2 
Dumb broad. It's NOT Chicken Little time


By CAT-2 at 04,Apr,24 13:25 other posts of CAT-2 
Sir-Skittles you are skating dangerously close to being blacklisted again. I don’t care what your blogs say about me and you can attack me on my threads. I reserve the option of deleting your posts in my threads. What I’m talking about is you bringing your garbage to my blogs that have nothing to do about our intense dislike for each other. I I post a blog about you or that retard Pitbull, then I’m fair game. But stay out of my other blogs like my Easter blog.
Oh, yeah, stay out of my page too.
By phart at 04,Apr,24 14:00 other posts of phart 
You should stand up and stop "banning".you wouldn't hold up a ban hammer if they were in front of you, why do it here? you are behind a keyboard,you are safe.The wires and the airwaves will protect you from harm.
By CAT-2 at 04,Apr,24 14:27 other posts of CAT-2 
You do have a point but, imagine signing on and there are 50+ new posts about you from the same 3 members every day and all villifying you. You would get tired. That, though, is not the reason I ban these people. It's their habit of trashing my page with inappropriate gifts. I don't like for members to come and look at my page and see a ribbon full of piles of 💩. Nor do I like my pics to have negative posts. These last ones I can delete, but, deleting gifts cost a lot of points that I prefer to use voting for members pics.
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BTW, Phart, now that MONGOloid is gone, my blacklist has a total of two and one is Pitbull, so, I don't think it's excessive.
By PITBULL at 07,Apr,24 10:57 other posts of PITBULL 
Go ahead and blacklist me you fat pig and racist.
By CAT-2 at 07,Apr,24 12:25 other posts of CAT-2 
Ok, Spitbull, you asked for it. Pffft. You are blacklisted.






By CAT-2 at 06,Apr,24 15:24 other posts of CAT-2 
OMG, we were there last weekend. That’s scary.

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By phart at 06,Apr,24 15:43 other posts of phart 
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heres a link that you don't have to turn off your ad blocker for.
I doubt you were there at 3am. Why is anyone at a bar at 3am? And why would they arrest the other guy?
By CAT-2 at 06,Apr,24 16:41 other posts of CAT-2 
Miami is an all hours city. Most entertainment places like lounges and discotheques stay open until 5am and have a crowd until the end.
We were there untill 11pm or so.
By phart at 07,Apr,24 03:00 other posts of phart 
wow, scary to be out past 10 or so for me. of course i don't drink.And although i luv good music,i can't stand to try to listen to it in places like that because of the hootin',hollaring and stinking beer!Or some kind of stupid ball game on the tv instead of the weather or news.
By CAT-2 at 07,Apr,24 03:32 other posts of CAT-2 
When Woody and I go alone we go to quiet places with smooth music and low lights. We are not beer people even though Woody loves a beer. We like to sip a good scotch and slow dance while making sex moves . This other place is the type we go with a crowd






By CAT-2 at 06,Apr,24 17:38 other posts of CAT-2 
Our war for independence lasted longer than our involvement in WWII
By phart at 07,Apr,24 02:59 other posts of phart 
Um, never had gave that much thought.
mentioning WW2, how close do you think we are to WW3?
Some are saying very close. I have bad feelings myself.
By CAT-2 at 07,Apr,24 03:00 other posts of CAT-2 
I don't think it'll be a word wide war but, I too think we are dangerously close to a major war.




By CAT-2 at 02,Apr,24 14:13 other posts of CAT-2 
I can’t believe the participation on this poll:

/polls/4808.html
By phart at 04,Apr,24 14:04 other posts of phart 
it's my understanding it taste like shit.
But it is good that mothers let the babies have it as it is designed for the baby,unlike the synthetic crap from the store.
By CAT-2 at 04,Apr,24 14:28 other posts of CAT-2 
Don't knock it till you try it. It's sweet but not sugar sweet. And judging from the poll, many like it. I had no clue there was going to be so much participation.
By phart at 06,Apr,24 11:15 other posts of phart 
it's probably same as with a goat or cow, if the cow or goat eats wild onions, the milk will taste like them,if the woman eats onions,probably the baby is going to have onion breath
By CAT-2 at 06,Apr,24 11:31 other posts of CAT-2 
That's true and babies can taste the difference. It might even affect their food preferences later in life. Most expectant mothers to be eat a bland diet. Breast milk tends to be sweet like cow milk.






By CAT-2 at 05,Apr,24 21:43 other posts of CAT-2 
Biden: U.S. economy world's best; Trump claims 'c…

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We are really doing good. So good, in fact, that the Clown is trying to take credit for it.


By CAT-2 at 05,Apr,24 15:38 other posts of CAT-2 
An earthquake struck the East Coast of the United States on Friday morning, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, causing buildings to shake and rattling nerves from Maryland to Maine.

The USGS measured the quake as a 4.8 temblor with its epicenter near Whitehouse Station, New Jersey. It struck a little before 10:30 a.m. ET.
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The East Coast earthquake came from a fault that's been asleep for hundreds of millions of years but suddenly reactivated


By CAT-2 at 05,Apr,24 14:19 other posts of CAT-2 
You were blacklisted by smlloldcok

Who the heck is this guy? I’ve never heard of him.


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I just heard that he’s the new fake Pitbull account.


By PITBULL at 05,Apr,24 13:54 other posts of PITBULL 
Hey guys come to the Forum; Freddy's box and see the old saggy granny CAT in full action
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On this forum you will see CAT'S racism in full display


By CAT-2 at 04,Apr,24 19:29 other posts of CAT-2 
Well, it seems MONGO took a dive into an empty pool. Why?
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Good riddance, MONGOLOID. You chose to be nasty just because you wanted to. I won't give you a second thought. I hope you do delete this and every other account here. So funny, you ragged me about all my accounts and here you are confessing about multiple accounts. At least mine were legitimate. You, being a raghead, should appreciate this. I hope the plague of a thousand fleas invade your armpits.
So, now, you can delete this post. I'm going to copy/paste this in my thread. Perhaps you can convince your BOTTOM, Pitbull to follow you to Hell.
My parting wish to you....💩💩💩


By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 14:29 other posts of CAT-2 
Wow. We need this in Miami.
New Central Florida highway will wirelessly charge cars on the go
SR 516 will also provide a long-sought connection from Lake County’s suburbs to Orlando’s beltway
By phart at 02,Apr,24 01:06 other posts of phart 
how many homes and farms are being lost to build it?
By CAT-2 at 02,Apr,24 02:06 other posts of CAT-2 
Don't know but Central Florida is booming. Farm land is disappearing fast.
By phart at 02,Apr,24 02:42 other posts of phart 
we are loosing farm and forest to quickly to.
sad,I don't know where all the people are coming from but i wish they would stay where ever they are.
By CAT-2 at 02,Apr,24 11:23 other posts of CAT-2 
In my state, most of the new people come from the northern states. They are running away from the cold and gloomy days that occurs two thirds of the year.
There's also a huge influx of immigrants, both legal and illegal. These don't cause harm to farm or wooded lands. Their impact is mostly in established cities.




By phart at 04,Apr,24 14:02 other posts of phart 
hells bells, i hit that damn minus thing trying to hit reply, i will try to fix it,but my question is, where is the nuclear plant going to be built that will supply the power to this cordless car strip?

fixed,sorry about that.
By CAT-2 at 04,Apr,24 14:32 other posts of CAT-2 

I do that too. My nails get in the way. No problem. I never take notice.
Concerning the charging highway, I have no clue how it's going to work. I know there are several in central and northern Florida on both sides of the peninsula.




By CAT-2 at 02,Apr,24 11:30 other posts of CAT-2 
Here we go. This should be good.
A federal judge says migrants can sue the company that flew them to Martha's Vineyard

APRIL 1, 20247:08 PM ET


By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 18:02 other posts of CAT-2 
Oh, boy, look out milk drinkers.

For the first time, U.S. dairy cows have tested positive for bird flu

MARCH 31, 20241:25 PM ET

There's a good chance your next glass of milk will have an egg in it.🤣🤣🤣😈
By phart at 01,Apr,24 20:42 other posts of phart 
no it means they will be killing 1000's of cows and milk will go out of sight price wise.A created mess. Someone tested positive for the bird flu and went into the cow area on purpose. i read about it while ago.
I drink 2 to 3 gallons of milk a week nowadays,just my luck,something else i won't be able to afford.
By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 21:49 other posts of CAT-2 
I feel for you but, I hate milk.
By dgraff at 01,Apr,24 22:05 other posts of dgraff 
It’s delicious on a hot day so cold and smooth and it keeps your stomach in check
By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 22:07 other posts of CAT-2 
When I was a kid I used to pour the orange juice into the milk and tell my mom it had curdled. Funny thing though, I love milk shakes.
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It is good for ulcers of the stomach
By dgraff at 01,Apr,24 22:17 other posts of dgraff 
Definitely the ulcers that Yukon Jack give you after drinking it 30 plus years
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By phart at 02,Apr,24 01:04 other posts of phart 
Was lucky enough growing up to have access to all the goat milk I wanted. 3 quarts or more a day, never knew what heart burn was until i was over 20 years old.
I have had many a chance to break a bone but so far ,thank God ,I aint. I Credit it to all the milk i drank growing up.
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Vitamin D, calcium







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By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 14:06 other posts of CAT-2 
A fact that's good to know if you visit Florida. Lake Okeechobee is loaded with alligators. There are literally tens of thousands of them there. In 2015 there were an estimated 28,000+ there and the population has continued to grow yearly. On a side note, if there is freshwater anywhere in Florida you can almost guarantee that there will be at least one gator in it.Jan 4, 2024
By phart at 01,Apr,24 20:44 other posts of phart 
why don't they kill them off? why allow them to over populate and kill people?
By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 21:53 other posts of CAT-2 
For a while they were an endangered species (I would have loved for them to become extinct. 🤣. Now they've multiplied to a nuisance amount.
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I wanted to check on this. In Florida Alligator hunting is legal, but it is not a free-for-all. There is a specific alligator hunting season, which falls between August 15 and Nov 1 each year. Alligator hunting was established in 1988 due to the growing need for population control over the 1.3 million alligators in Florida.Oct 10, 2023.
Close to the cabin there's a state park called Alexander Springs. It's a beautiful place with a fresh water stream and lagoon in the center of the park. Most of the park is thick forest, but the waters are cristal clear and a favorite of skindivers.
First time there there was a small beach with floating ropes to "separate" the beach and wading area from the crocs sunning themselves. Needless to say, I didn't go in.
We get the digital newspaper from Ocala Florida and not a month goes by that someone gets attacked there. People have lost arms and feet, but, does that stop the swimmers? Not a chance. I think I said it in another thread, "man does not learn".




By CAT-2 at 31,Mar,24 15:31 other posts of CAT-2 
GOVERNOR RON DeSANTIS, OF FLORIDA, FOUND A WAY TO STOP GLOBAL WARMING:
"A bill awaiting signature from Governor Ron DeSantis, who dropped out of the Republican presidential race in January, would ban offshore wind energy, relax regulations on natural gas pipelines, and delete the majority of mentions of climate change from existing state laws."

What guy!!
By phart at 01,Apr,24 01:43 other posts of phart 
Natural gas can be piped in to operate electric plants to charge the electric cars the libs want so bad. clean burning and is a by product of oil drilling.
Your state also just got a new law on the books to prevent squatting and to be able to charge squatters with crimes.
You live in a state with a great government but the crocigators and alidiles and pythons scare me to much to want to live there.
By CAT-2 at 01,Apr,24 02:31 other posts of CAT-2 
Squatting as we know it now is a new fenomena, but, squatters rights are in every state's laws. It's a time honored tradition. In Florida, if you occupied a plot of land continuously for 25 yrs without any intervention, you could file for title.




By Sir-Skittles at 30,Mar,24 14:44 other posts of Sir-Skittles 
Hi cat I found yer pic!




By CAT-2 at 30,Mar,24 17:36 other posts of CAT-2 
It is my pic. It’s the one I uploaded when I found it in my collection of scummy moms. You can tell she’s your mother. You are the spitting image of her. Both being scummy cunts and all.






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