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Started by JustWill at 11,Aug,15 13:27  other posts of JustWill
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Similar topics: 1.The STAR CHAMBER   2.Sneaker Photo Update   3.Why does he keep visiting my page?   4.The perverse joy of getting a member deleted   5.Here's a thought regarding the infamous Star Chamber "message"...  

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By bella! at 23,Sep,17 09:22 other posts of bella! 
A 7 year member has been referred to the evaluation panel for deletion. Why? Because the member posted several internet pics. In the title of the picture, did the member make reference to themself? No. Do other members post internet pictures without repercussion or face deletion? Yes.

It's rather sad that some of the voting members have ZERO TOLERANCE to other members that post internet pictures, no "hall pass", no warning, no leniency, NO FORGIVENESS!

What are your thoughts with regard to members posting internet pictures?
By Dev01 at 23,Sep,17 09:35 other posts of Dev01 
star chamber .... what exactly is that?
By bella! at 23,Sep,17 11:47 other posts of bella! 
A quite knowledgeable member affectionately dubbed the evaluation panel with the name of the "Star Chamber" because it WAS a very fitting name. Google's defines the Star Chamber as;

"The Star Chamber (Latin: Camera stellata) was an English court of law which sat at the royal Palace of Westminster, from the late 15th century to the mid-17th century (c. 1641), and was composed of Privy Councillors andcommon-law judges, to supplement the judicial activities of the common-law and equity courtsin civil and criminal matters. The Star Chamber was originally established to ensure the fair enforcement of laws against socially and politically prominent people so powerful that ordinary courts would probably hesitate to convict them of their crimes. However, it became synonymous with social and political oppression through the arbitrary use and abuse of the power it wielded.

In modern usage, legal or administrative bodies with strict, arbitrary rulings and secretive proceedings are sometimes called, metaphorically or poetically, star chambers. This is a pejorative term and intended to cast doubt on the legitimacy of the proceedings. 'Star Chamber' can also be used in its original meaning, for instance when a politician uses parliamentary privilege to attack a powerful organisation or person.[a]"

And how the name relates to the evaluation panel, previously, it seemed as if a member was referred to the evaluation panel for any reason, that member was swiftly banned and deleted. Was the banning legitimate? Just my opinion, in some situations it was excessive and overkill. The piece about the Star Chamber being established to ensure "the fair enforcement of laws" really fits what the evaluation panel was set up to do but the evaluation panel fell short of doing.

Now, specifically in the case of the 7 year member, the member was contacted, the member has removed the picture(s) yet we still have members that do not want to be "forgiving" and stand firm with their vote to proceed with deletion.
By Dev01 at 23,Sep,17 17:55 other posts of Dev01 
I was jk but thank you for the discription



By RealTitsLover at 23,Sep,17 09:48 other posts of RealTitsLover 
What was it a picture of, exactly?
By bella! at 23,Sep,17 12:10 other posts of bella! 
The picture was of a butt.


By veryshyguy at 23,Sep,17 18:17 other posts of veryshyguy 
Well I post internet pics but they are not of other naked folks, just pics of hopefully funny sayings, etc. These are readily available for anyone to download.

I really don't care if a member posts pics of others but they should say they are photos derived from other sources.

I am one who goes by the 3 strikes and your out. Give the person a chance to explain why. There may be a valid reason.

I understand if the pic is copyrighted, unless they themselves own the copyright.

If someone finds my posts offensive they only need to tell me and I surely will remove them. In fact, I think I will put that in my profile!





By bella! at 23,Aug,17 08:34 other posts of bella! 
Recently, a member made reference to the "site police". In your opinion, who are the "site police", anyway?

Are the "site police" members that search for and report fakes (those posting internet pictures) OR do you feel the "site police" are the members that decide the fate of the members reported?


By bella! at 16,Aug,17 16:21 other posts of bella! 
Oh, this is funny! A SYD member talks some crap to a SYC member, then reports her for deletion because she decided to post his one-sided and hateful spew at her! Wow! What a douche bag he is!

/abuse_reports.php

/member.php?w=312152
By JustWill at 16,Aug,17 16:37 other posts of JustWill 
The fact that he is worried about "deformation" of his character is pretty amusing.
From what he posted, it looks like his character was already deformed before she posted his rants in public...
By bella! at 16,Aug,17 16:46 other posts of bella! 
Haha! I didn't even notice that, I was too busy laughing!

By bella! at 16,Aug,17 16:49 other posts of bella! 
Now, if I only understood why the member voted NO ABUSE, froze the voting process, then came back and cancelled his NO ABUSE vote!
By JustWill at 16,Aug,17 17:01 other posts of JustWill 
Maybe he is a fan of people with a deformed character?
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Here's the thing:
If you are going to say nasty, racist things to a person in private--and, make no mistake, that shit was pretty damn nasty!--then cry like a fucking baby and try to get them deleted when they show your true colors to the rest of the site, YOU are the one who deserves to be deleted.
By bella! at 16,Aug,17 17:53 other posts of bella! 
If he was reported for being abusive, I would be inclined to vote to delete. Believe That!
By CountryCouple54 at 16,Aug,17 19:18 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I don't understand either why these dum dums vote "no abuse" then freeze the report. Also, I wouldn't sweat it. Them two bickering with each other are both dudes anyways. I want to be at the trial when the judge reads the law suit for "Deformation of Character". That's just funny shit.
By bella! at 16,Aug,17 19:49 other posts of bella! 
The "freeze" was needed option to freeze all voting so that there was time to contact "the" reported member with the goal being that they would correct the violation prior to being deleted.

In my opinion, it really wasn't necessary to freeze the voting for this referral because it appeared that the reported member did not do anything wrong that would warrant deletion. It baffled me that the member that froze all voting went in and deleted his NO ABUSE vote. Cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo......

By bella! at 16,Aug,17 20:00 other posts of bella! 
But what is interesting, AsianBabe was previously banned????

/suspicious.php


By JustWill at 16,Aug,17 20:25 other posts of JustWill 
It's also pretty funny that he is whining about getting "unwanted messages from other people because of this" (the fact that asianbabe made his private messages public).
So, either we are to assume that asianbabe asked him to send a bunch of misogynistic, racist messages, or that he feels it is okay for HIM to send unwanted messages but it is out of line for others to do the same to him.
By bella! at 16,Aug,17 20:29 other posts of bella! 
I know, right!?








By bella! at 29,Apr,17 16:54 other posts of bella! 
A member has been referred for deletion not by another member but by admin. In my opinion, his write up referral seems more like an experiment, a lesson of sorts for the voting members.

Some background, the member referred has been deleted multiple times but continues to create new profiles from time to time. Apparently, the concern of this profile is that it may be a profile established for "revenge porn".

Getting back to the referral, it seems to me that if this profile is a known fake to admin, he would have deleted it immediately, with no regret. But admin did not delete the profile and what was interesting in his referral, he suggested that we contact the member to request a "verification" picture. I did contact the member 2+ days ago but the member has not been online in over 3 days. I have never liked or supported the idea of deleting a member without giving them the benefit of doubt and the option of correcting the problem.

I hope that the reported member returns sooner than later because the voting members are chomping at the bits to get this profile deleted.
By CountryCouple54 at 29,Apr,17 18:15 other posts of CountryCouple54 
There is more like this member. But I go by proof. I've seen none on the reported member. Check out the profile "bonnie38". What's the difference between the two. If we are assuming it's revenge photos.
By admin at 29,Apr,17 19:44 other posts of admin 
The difference is that I have not seen it. And this by the way was one of the purposes - to show you what revenge porn looks like.

It's not always porn. It just happens to be porn on this site, because it's a sex site. But I had several sites with funny pics and it was very annoying that some individuals posted photos of someone they h@te with degrading titles and/or comments. Not necessarily exes, sometimes they post their bosses or colleagues, their rivals may be, both male and female. But females get this more often. And some are so butthurt that they keep re-posting same shit for years. I saw same pics appearing with degrading comments over and over through 8 fucking years.

This bonnie38 is indeed a male created account. Note that he bothered to title every pic as "Bonnie". Also, something you can't see - this account does not reply to private messages. Not a single reply. No public comments either. So what do you think is a purpose of the poster considering that they are not interested in any interaction?

And thanks for pointing it out.
By bella! at 30,Apr,17 00:52 other posts of bella! 
I just logged in and found that former member, member #533623, gordaputa, had responded to my message at 18:07. The message was simply, "thanks "

Did the member fail to produce a verification picture and was deleted through the normal voting process?
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Maybe I'm not going to get a response.....
By CountryCouple54 at 30,Apr,17 17:28 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I see "bonnie38" is gone too. I'm assuming it was another revenge porn deal. Since the member was never reported.
By bella! at 30,Apr,17 21:11 other posts of bella! 
Again, if this was admin's "experiment" OR if there was a "lesson" to be learned, I feel that I failed because other than gordaputa is gone, I don't know "why". Was she deleted 1) by the voting members who were chomping at the bits to delete her 2) deleted by admin because he felt deep down that it was revenge porn.

Look at the upload on my page, a member feels that based on where Laura Lopez lives, this profile was fake and created as an attempt to bring shame to her. Also, because he found something on Yandex, a Russian server. Quite frankly, I didn't understand what I was supposed to see. I didn't understand the significance of the "degrading titles and/or comments". I just didn't UNDERSTAND and that's why I was hoping to receive a response.

Although I was not familar with the profile of bonnie38, I gathered that admin deleted said profile because he thanked you for pointing the member out to him and because each photo was titled "Bonnie", because the member did not reply to any private message or post any public comment.







By bella! at 24,Aug,16 07:45 other posts of bella! 
It's mind boggling that members are reported for deletion without adequate proof being offered.

And when you mention to the reporting member that they have offered no proof, they get irritated, like "what the what are you talkin' about"?
By _avg_ at 25,Aug,16 22:54 other posts of _avg_ 
It's the duty of the voting members to determine whether an abuse report constitutes a valid infraction or not.

Evidence provided by the whistle-blower is a convenience; LACK OF SAID EVIDENCE DOES NOT INVALIDATE THE REPORT, NOR THE ALLEGED INFRACTION. Any member voting on the basis that no evidence was handed to them is in dereliction of their duties and should have their voting privileges revoked.

Any member voting without due diligence on their behalf is likewise misusing their privilege and should be prevented from having a say.

All reports determined to be valid should be elevated to the Admin for final arbitration and disposition.
By bella! at 26,Aug,16 00:23 other posts of bella! 
EVIDENCE from a whistle=blower is a MUST when the reported offense comes down to the whistle-blower accusing another member of admitting something in a series of messages, no?

In the instance I am referring, the whistle-blower CLAIMED that a male member was posting pictures of a female without her knowledge. That's a mighty big accusation and the whistle-blower only provided evidence after a series of back and forth messages.
By _avg_ at 26,Aug,16 01:15 other posts of _avg_ 
As a general rule of thumb, this site isn't called "Show YOUR [Genitals]" for no reason: members should post only their own pics and should have the reasonable expectation that no OTHER member will post those same pics without express permission; the presumption must be that the user does NOT have permission to post another member's pics.

He-said/she-said exchanges (esp. in private) can never be decided by users of the site; only the Admin would have the ability corroborate such a claim. Any such abuses should be reported to the Admin directly and exclusively his domain; the abuse panel is not an appropriate venue to vet such reports.

Admin should again have final adjudication as to the appropriate action.
By bella! at 26,Aug,16 01:28 other posts of bella! 
So you don't feel that the whistle-blower should include a copy of the alleged conversation with their referral as a means of proof to support their claim?

Your concerns are valid, perhaps you should provide admin with your thoughts and concerns on the matters that need to be improved and do so via private message or post them here and perhaps he will make the appropriate changes.
By _avg_ at 26,Aug,16 01:43 other posts of _avg_ 
Copies of any alleged conversation can only be verified by the Admin; it's beyond the capacity of any member to evaluate the validity of these kinds of claims, no matter what evidence is supplied.

I've said, here in this very thread and to the Admin directly, that abuse reports should not lead to immediate deletion but to a 'suspension' and review by the Admin. This action would, I feel, greatly reduce the issues that present themselves among voters on abuse reports.

But this does not exculpate voting members of the responsibility to properly research before voting, nor to recognize the limits of their abilities and responsibly pass along their duties, as warranted.
By bella! at 26,Aug,16 08:32 other posts of bella! 
Perhaps admin will consider all your of concerns and determine whether an evaluation panel of seasoned members is actually qualified to make these types of decisions.

What I can say is that there seems to be a drop-off in referrals as well as members being deleted for some cockemamie reason. I'm not sure if that is because all the riff raff was previously deleted OR whether the panel members are or are not doing their due diligence.





By alexblue at 27,Aug,16 18:33 other posts of alexblue 
90+% Of panel members don't give a shit...and you are taking things beyond what is necessary for a site like this..

You are correct in what you say,but it is too much to expect from your 'average member' most people don't live here...




By bella! at 23,Aug,16 18:53 other posts of bella! 
A SYC member was referred to the Evaluation Panel for the following reason;

Type: **** Images Member CA$HGOETTIN Reported by **** at 23,Aug 10:44 Rating: -2

Explanation: Member is looking for PAID sex...

Please note the reason/explanation of the referral is because the SYC member is "looking for PAID sex..."

If you visit the reported member's page, she states that she is a "cash princess" (whatever that means).

The voting is somewhat mixed only because the voting members don't know whether it is against the site guidelines to use SYD/SYC as an avenue to sell something, whether it be sex, dirty underwear, etc.

This is in part, a recent response to message exchanges between admin and I. He said; "Consider this site a free for all club or cafeteria and I'm just it's manager. When you go to drink coffee to Starbucks with your friends, you do not need a set of instructions, you just need a common sense. Well, at least I hope this is so... And if every visitor uses common sense you won't even see a manager. They appear only when there is some trouble or service problem. And that's how I would like to be here - only be called when there is a real problem...."

My common sense tells me that Craigslist would be more suited to meet the needs of a "cash princess" but I voted ABUSE HAS NO GROUND.
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I was hoping that admin would comment on this.
By CA$HGOETTIN at 25,Aug,16 02:46 other posts of CA$HGOETTIN 
we ve a lot of fun here... There will be allways someone who dont get what he wants... If u guys really think that is a reason to delete my Profil ... So fine, do it! But i will give a lil looser what he wants by no reason!

By CountryCouple54 at 25,Aug,16 10:46 other posts of CountryCouple54 
We have been here over 2 years now. In those years we have seen members advertising their web sites, to girls advertising their webcam shows, to girls trying to sell used panties. There is right now 2 popular girls who still advertise themselves' being on other sites. There was a popular couple who started their own website and up to the point when they left SYD/SYC advertised their paid site all the time. There is a member who still comes and goes that will sell you and ship you her used panties. I think this either breaks the rules or it doesn't. There should be no grey area for us members to vote on. I see nothing wrong with it. But if you allow the advertising, it will continue to grow. So it's a tuff situation. But again, the rule on this should be clear. Allowed or not allowed. This grey area is not fair when some members are deleted and some get to stay.
By admin at 25,Aug,16 10:58 other posts of admin 
I explained this many times - I do not tolerate spam and solicitation. If someone complains about it I would ban such account. And it happens, sometimes people report such things and I ban corresponding accounts. Otherwise I do not care if someone writes on their page some web-address or that they sell panties or even their ass.

If I see "the member sells used panties" in the complaint I just ignore it. If I see "the member spams with proposition to buy used panties" - I will verify and if I find more than a couple of such messages I will surely ban the account.
By CountryCouple54 at 25,Aug,16 11:25 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I get it. So like I said in my vote in the Review Panel. This topic should be reported to you not the Review Panel.
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As long as you don't Spam it. You can sell and advertise whatever the hell you want.





By JustWill at 06,Apr,16 11:43 other posts of JustWill 
For the record: The last time I checked, posting a picture that does not contain a dick is NOT grounds for deletion of a member's account.

Also, a handy hint for folks who post their pics on multiple sites: If you are posting a pic of your junk here which you have previously posted on another site, crop the picture to eliminate that site's watermark before posting it on SYD. Trust me, that little measure will save you from a lot of hassle in the long run.
By AliceMason at 06,Apr,16 12:07 other posts of AliceMason 
Despite the "loss" (?!) of Mr Web-Derived-Image there continues to be very lame reporting of members! I pointed out to him several times that nowhere does it say that if you post here you can ONLY post here!

I can see what JustWill is saying but it's a shame if people have to go to these lengths to avoid the "web-derived-image" accusation!....whilst not denying there will be spurious accounts here, we are all adults so can we not be left to make our own minds up?....

Members who post here and elsewhere are all tarred with the same brush, it would seem! Grr!!

By alexblue at 06,Apr,16 13:00 other posts of alexblue 
@The first part...maybe the reporting member didn't see the 'evaluate' button on members pics ?...

Second part ,I'm gonna have to disagree Will,just because of my personal views...I'm here to have a laugh,show my stuff ,chat with open minded people and all those pics with watermarks from other sites confuses things....

Cropping pics is not necessary if you are actually the person who owns the pics,also it's more likely that a pic has been taken from another site without that persons consent...

If you are on another site with the same pics,it's easy to show you are the account holder just log in and take a screenshot of your username on that site...

I would rather talk to genuine people.not just a fake,having images with watermarks from other sites just makes me stay away from those accounts...

I would rather the site is known for it's genuine members than all the crap to do with fakes....I can spot them,so it's not really a big deal for me...
But I'm just highlighting my own views on this.

By rocket1 at 08,Apr,16 12:29 other posts of rocket1 
We agree 100%!!!if we post our pics here and then post on another site,why would we have to take OUR pic from this site to post elsewhere?we have the pic already and if we deleted it from our phone or camera we can take another!!imagine that!!




By JustWill at 24,Mar,16 11:55 other posts of JustWill 
I've noticed that things have been uncharacteristically quiet over in the Star Chamber the past several days. Have we finally rid the site of all "fake" members, or is something else going on?
By alexblue at 25,Mar,16 12:03 other posts of alexblue 
'twilight zone' the mystery will unravel....
By Ray10754 at 25,Mar,16 14:45 other posts of Ray10754 
Maybe the quiet before the storm ??
By alexblue at 25,Mar,16 18:29 other posts of alexblue 
There's definitely something brewing Ray,,,oh yeah,that's me cup of tea...



By bella! at 25,Mar,16 17:25 other posts of bella! 
Enjoy the solitude while it lasts, I'm sure that there has been a flurry of private messages sent and I would even go as far as to say, emails initiated.

I've heard there are some members who have received private messages sent with the intention of updating them on who's "bad".
By JustWill at 25,Mar,16 17:30 other posts of JustWill 
"Bad"?
Have they gone past their "sell by" date?

I'd really like to see THAT list.
They sound like the kind of folks I'd like to hang out with.
By bella! at 25,Mar,16 21:13 other posts of bella! 
I will send you the s3cret list!
By JustWill at 25,Mar,16 22:51 other posts of JustWill 
Thank you. It was very "esoteric" reading...
By bella! at 25,Mar,16 23:49 other posts of bella! 
You're very welcome!

I wonder if the group received an updated message stating that there are actually 8 bad guys now?

Number of members whom **** has blacklisted: 8
By JustWill at 26,Mar,16 11:30 other posts of JustWill 
Again, I must mention:

Just because you can no longer see when people explain why you are an , that doesn't mean that you are no longer an
By bella! at 26,Mar,16 12:11 other posts of bella! 
Oh, don't k¡d yourself, [s]he sees everything and gossips about everything [s]he sees! Believe that!


By #316057 at 01,Apr,16 05:27
you can add me to the list now of being Ban by him
By alexblue at 01,Apr,16 05:51 other posts of alexblue 
He'll ban the whole site soon...
By #316057 at 02,Apr,16 00:01
He Will










By bella! at 15,Mar,16 08:52 other posts of bella! 
An interesting referral made to the evaluation panel. A new SYC member referred because of Photoshop'd pictures. Although the pictures might be titled with "her name (?)", the body is that of model Leanna Decker.

Over the many years that I've been a member, there has been a good amount of dialog and concern over Photoshop pictures. Do you have an opinion on Photoshop? Where is line drawn? How different OR is there any difference in the member(s) who enhances their "goodies" versus the member who inserts their face(?) and uses the body of another?


By bella! at 01,Mar,16 07:00 other posts of bella! 
Here is how PUSSYFIED the voting members of the evaluation panel are.

Type: Copyright/Stolen   Member Gayboy122  Reported by **** at 29,Feb 20:27   Rating: 3


Violating Images:
  
Explanation: This is undoubtedly copyrighted material. I recognize several on the men in this photo, in particular Langdon Conrad, standing, second from right.

ABUSE HAS NO GROUND   29,Feb 23:01 By ****   No comment presented
DELETE THIS MEMBER   01,Mar 00:13 By ****
internet pix, booo
DELETE THIS MEMBER   01,Mar 00:25 By ****
all over the net
DELETE THIS MEMBER   01,Mar 05:21 By ****   No comment presented
DELETE THIS MEMBER   01,Mar 05:42 By eduard99
Where is bella?

I decided to send eduard99 the following private message;

Mar 1, 06:24 bella!: No need for you to be concerned about where I am at, continue to send gifts and messages of adoration to the fake profiles, the men posing as women. 

Poor eduard99's feelings must be very, very tender because ol' eduard99 blacklisted me. What's the matter eduard99, did you get all hurty about spending 100 points and then sending the roses to a fake profile? What's the matter, you can dish it out but can't take it?
By #316057 at 01,Mar,16 08:42
what a **** he is
By bella! at 01,Mar,16 09:09 other posts of bella! 
Yep, my sentiment exactly!




By bella! at 28,Jan,16 11:25 other posts of bella! 
Can you imagine a member voting to delete another member because of "inappropriate activity" all because she posted a picture of herself laying in bed, covered up to her breasts with her dog beside her? The dog is so relaxed, he's on his back, belly exposed, waiting for a good belly rub.....


WTH!?#@?! Surely you've noticed the member who enjoys being naked and posts pictures of themself with their only friends, their beloved dogs. How is it that "they" are able to justify that their pictures are appropriate but the other member's pictures are not?

🐝🐝🐝
By JustWill at 28,Jan,16 12:02 other posts of JustWill 
Again, the operative word is...HYPOCRISY.

By alexblue at 28,Jan,16 12:03 other posts of alexblue 


Spot the difference ????????
By JustWill at 28,Jan,16 12:19 other posts of JustWill 
One has a big boob in it and the other is a picture of a lady with her dog.
By bella! at 28,Jan,16 13:17 other posts of bella! 
☝ You're so darn funny!

By bella! at 23,Feb,16 15:02 other posts of bella! 
Sadly, the picture featuring one BIG boob on the chewed up Salvation Army couch has been deleted or made private for friends, only. It's odd that he doesn't have any issue with disrespecting and mocking others but as soon as you mock him, he's insulted.
By JustWill at 23,Feb,16 15:43 other posts of JustWill 
What did you expect? After all, you are dealing with a prime example of the species DOUCHEBAGGUS EXTREMUS.
By bella! at 23,Feb,16 15:48 other posts of bella! 
It's unfortunate that you're blacklisted by you-know-who. He will never know that there's a scientific name for the affliction.







By bella! at 23,Feb,16 15:28 other posts of bella! 
Currently, there is one referral that has not yet been resolved.

This is the fast track scenario, a brand new SYC member uploads 4 pictures and 1 picture was found by you-know-who on the Internet. You-know-who posts a message on the member's wall requesting that she removes "web derived" picture as that is against site guidelines. The member reads the message, deletes the picture in question, yet you-know-who's cronies still vote to delete. WTF!? What does it take to make these numb nuts happy?


By bella! at 19,Feb,16 10:43 other posts of bella! 
Oh, this makes me smile!

Type: Copyright/Stolen   Member ****  Reported by **** at 19,Feb 09:31   Rating: -2


Explanation: hello, i've ask of this member to remove a comment he posted under his own name about myself, ask of him to remove nicely no action on his part has been done. this will fall under defamation of character, i've download and took photo shots of his page. need for him to remove all in all not just deducting points as punishment, i like it on here now i'm not feeling cormfortable. really don't want to take legal action on this matter

ABUSE HAS NO GROUND   19,Feb 10:10 By ****;
There was a message written by woopeeweed420 on his profile page alluding to 176, I wrote to him suggesting he deletes it which has been done so problem solved.


Well, well, well.....you-know-who actually wrote for "more details". WHY does you-know-who feel [s]he needs more information for something that is not a matter for the panel to consider AND WHY was the comment edited to remove the fact that s[he] contacted the reporting member for "more details"?


By alexblue at 10,Jan,16 02:21 other posts of alexblue 
Are we back to deleting members for private pictures again ? yawn.....
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Yes, the URL is visible however it is a private picture so we cannot fully grasp the intent of the sender without seeing the conversation. I have attached a portion of the conversation between the two members, they were apparently role playing, he asked her for her name and a face pic. She obliged and when asked whether that was "her", she said yes. Jan 9, 20:30 the_hard_0ne: well...the text structure kinda crashed. is there any better wa to forward you a copy of the conversation? Jan 9, 20:29 the_hard_0ne: Jan 9, 20:18 dirtyandwet: No. What? Jan 9, 20:17 the_hard_0ne: no Jan 9, 20:17 dirtyandwet: Hello Jan 9, 20:04 dirtyandwet: Yes Jan 9, 20:03 the_hard_0ne: and this is you on this pic? ****** so yes, the member did represent an internet picture as being her.

Policing private conversations and uploads is admin's responsibility....no one else's...
By bella! at 10,Jan,16 02:50 other posts of bella! 
For sure, yawn......
By alexblue at 10,Jan,16 04:15 other posts of alexblue 
back to the do as I say approach here again I see... you can't teach an old dog new tricks....
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Didn't you get pissy with John for policing private pictures ?????? oh the irony....you are the female version of John...
By bella! at 10,Jan,16 04:48 other posts of bella! 
yawn......
By alexblue at 10,Jan,16 05:02 other posts of alexblue 
Must be time to get in the coffin if you are yawning so much...

I always like your emoticon responses to me,shows I hit a nerve...
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I find it funny how you make no comment in this thread when you are the one leading the way to push for deletion on the panel...hmmm...

By bella! at 10,Jan,16 05:48 other posts of bella! 
And I think it's funny that you have nothing to post in this entire thread until you find my vote questionable.

My vote to delete was based on admin's guidelines;

If the abuse is not grave please try to convince the member to delete the pics in question before deleting him entirely Last phrase is meant for profiles posting internet porn as internet porn, i.e. who do not pretend to be people on those photos or friends of those people. It is NOT meant for accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them.

The last sentence, "It is NOT meant for accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them." is why my vote was to delete. Did dirtyandwet really "post" the picture, no, it was a private picture. Did [s]he "pretend" it was her, yes.

I recognize that sometimes I get it right and sometimes, not but in this instance, I stand behind my vote.
By alexblue at 10,Jan,16 06:07 other posts of alexblue 
"And I think it's funny that you have nothing to post in this entire thread until you find my vote questionable."


Policing private messages and uploads is what you just did...
Does admins guidelines cover private uploads ?if you stand behind your vote you should be banned from voting on the panel for what you just did...

Admin doesn't censor private correspondence so what gives you the right to do it ? you get so pissy when John does exactly what you just did,and I would call him out on it too,so I am doing it to you in fairness....it was a horseshit call in my view....








By Ray10754 at 17,Dec,15 10:40 other posts of Ray10754 
Just a thought! In regards to all foolishness that happens in the review panel, I think I have a relatively simple solution to end it all.Mind you I don't partake in the in it at all but It gets somewhat boring seeing the seeing the same thing over and over day after day.
Here is my thought,Why couldn't there be a category for (internet photos I like) in the up load section? Then people could upload photos from the internet with out a problem.
Along with some guide lines on how to do it correctly.
1)all internet photos to be placed here.
2)If posted under any other caption person gets a notice and 24 hours to change the category or face deletion.
3) Photo must state that it is not a photo of them self but of some thing/or who they like.
I'm sure it would have to be put to admin for approval and tweaked so as for it to work on this site.
But I think it would work so long as EVERY ONE abides by the rules.
If any one has any additional thoughts,please feel free to add them here.

Just my thoughts as to how to eliminate an ongoing issue.
By sinanff47 at 18,Dec,15 01:42 other posts of sinanff47 
Hi Ray. You have a nice idea here, but it is not legal--admin may also want to comment on this.
Since most internet photos are copyrighted, you are not allowed to repost them on a public site such as this, without the express permission of the owner of the photo, which I doubt virtually anybody gets. Therefore the category you are proposing is still trouble.

By Crookedsoley at 21,Dec,15 00:03 other posts of Crookedsoley 
"But I think it would work so long as EVERY ONE abides by the rules. "

This is exactly why it would not work. The key words being EVERY ONE.

By bella! at 21,Dec,15 02:52 other posts of bella! 
It is almost impossible to have 100% on board. Remember these wise words;


If you are not a part of the solution, you are a part of the problem. ~ Eldridge Cleaver
By Ray10754 at 21,Dec,15 05:39 other posts of Ray10754 
Thanks for all your Logical replies It was just a thought
I came up with. I refuse to be involved with all the childish antics that happens within the review panel,and this was my way
of hoping to resolve the problem!
It is a shame that so many ADULTS act in this manner!!
By bella! at 21,Dec,15 09:26 other posts of bella! 
Ray, your recommendation reflects that you are a member of Team Solution!

By Crookedsoley at 22,Dec,15 01:16 other posts of Crookedsoley 
I feel your pain. Truly I do. In fact the vast majority of members feel it. I used to work with a guy one time and was always wondering why he continued to do his asinine antics over and over. Constantly doing things that he knew people notice him for. Not many people liked him, in fact nobody did, but that never fazed him one iota. The problem was that he wanted attention. Any attention. Good, bad or indifferent, he wanted to be noticed. For any reason. And he was. It was so very sad. Pathetic is a better word. He ended up moving away and nobody really cared. And yes, I'm likely on somebody's "black list".





By justlooking123 at 18,Dec,15 19:18 other posts of justlooking123 
I think admin is pretty gosh-darn clear about this.

/forum/thread.php?id=316
"Especially beware of the members who post fakes from the internet instead of their own pics. A person who uses fakes is dishonest by default and thus unreliable and unpredictable by default."

/faq.html
"Legally you can post only the pics you have legal rights for. Generally those are pics of yourself you made personally or pics of other persons you made personally and have their implicit permission to publish the photos.
It's not exactly legal and is not permitted to post pics taken from internet on this site as in 99.99% cases you do not have authorization of the producer of those pics to publish them.
However, the site administration cannot know all the millions pics in internet and in most cases cannot tell if the pics are your own or taken from the net. Which means that only in case when someone report stolen/internet pics to the administration or in case when administration accidentally notice stolen/internet pics the account that posted them gets deleted.
If you notice someone posting internet pics, you can always report this. There is a "report abuse" button below every pic and a "report member" button on every member page.
Also, the administration cannot just take your word on it without any proof. Indeed if the member has obviously internet pics from different sources, proper actions will be taken. But in other cases the administration require some kind of proof - links to the pages with original images for example."

with emphasis on "Indeed if the member has obviously internet pics from different sources, proper actions will be taken."
By bella! at 18,Dec,15 19:54 other posts of bella! 
Well, if you are going to post what admin is gosh-darn clear about, don't forget to read and include this;

/forum/thread.php?id=24475

Or this, which is posted on the Abuse page;

If the abuse is not grave please try to convince the member to delete the pics in question before deleting him entirely Last phrase is meant for profiles posting internet porn as internet porn, i.e. who do not pretend to be people on those photos or friends of those people. It is NOT meant for accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them.

Or this, it was a response I received via a private message that I sent;

Dec 6, 22:21 admin: I do not care much about people posting internet pics unless they are pretending to be someone they are not, but I also do not care if non-paid member who does not have many friends gets deleted for posting them. I did not care if this member stays or gets deleted so I let members decide this and that's my consistency in this particular case.

Dec 6, 22:01 bella!: Too late, he has been deleted.

Dec 6, 21:58 bella!: What about **** and ****, those two post Internet pics and I know that **** cannot be reported. There's no consistency with what you will allow or tolerate.

So as of 12-06-2015, his position is that he does not care much UNLESS they are pretending to be someone they are not.
By justlooking123 at 18,Dec,15 20:06 other posts of justlooking123 
I'll stick to what is posted in the FAQ, thanks (like most members new to the site and unaware of the forums would).

The Admin's ***OFFICIAL*** position is pretty gosh-darn clear (his personal position may not reflect his official position)

And, because I know you will attack over the forum link I posted, I posted that because members are directed to read it on the member support page (which makes it an official admin message for me).

/support.php

Admin doesn't direct members to read the forum post you linked or his PM to you.

As I know you like to think of yourself as a thinker and reasonable person Bella, I'm sure the above logic will make perfect sense to you!
By bella! at 18,Dec,15 20:52 other posts of bella! 
A thinker and reasonable, yeah, that's me. Thanks.
By justlooking123 at 18,Dec,15 21:02 other posts of justlooking123 
I could link to tons of posts of yours in this forum that boil down to "I'm being reasonable about this and thinking about the situation, you are not!" (always posted in retaliation to somebody who holds a different opinion to you or who is disagreeing with you)


So, you are saying all those posts of yours are lies with your reply above?!
By bella! at 18,Dec,15 21:52 other posts of bella! 
I'm still looking for an apology from you.
By justlooking123 at 18,Dec,15 22:02 other posts of justlooking123 
If it is about the dgraff incident, I honestly did believe the person he was harassing was you and that is why I named you when complaining about his abusive behaviour here.

In the event that it wasn't actually you then I apologize for any trauma on your part from the incident.

I have no wish to get on anyones bad side here, but I can snark with the best of them when I need to.






By _avg_ at 18,Dec,15 22:14 other posts of _avg_ 
LMAO at anyone who thinks Admin has been consistent in his message. This is also worth a read, if you want to spin your head some more: /forum/thread.php?id=24475


The members should be removed from the "abuse" process, save reporting -- this is Admin's site and he should be the final arbiter of all member's status'.

Finally end all this bullshit...



By #314041 at 16,Dec,15 18:26
Some people take things way too seriously. Because of all the infighting, complaining and cliqueyness, I hardly check the eval boards anymore.
By bella! at 16,Dec,15 20:49 other posts of bella! 
I would like to comment on your post.

People take things to seriously; Being able to vote on member's fate should be taken seriously. 1) It's sad that there is/are member(s) that get pissy when things don't progress their way. 2) It's sad that member(s) send private messages to their supporters/friends belittling member(s) because of the vote that is made. 3) It's sad that admin has stated that he really does not care whether internet pictures are posted as long as it not the intention of the poster of being deceptive. 4) It's sad that even when admin's thoughts are printed clearly on the evaluation page that some voting members pretty much say, "fu@k-it" I'm going rogue and will disregard what his guidelines are. 5) It's sad that when the reported member removes the "violating" picture(s) that there are still the same group of panel members that will continue to vote to delete! What's up with that?

Yes, there are cliques, yes, there is infighting and complaining. I would like to think that you will reconsider weighing in on the evaluation panel without fear of being assaulted for not "voting properly". Everyone's vote does matter!
By #314041 at 17,Dec,15 06:19
It is sad that people send private messages to complain. I'm glad you do your complaining in the forums.
By bella! at 17,Dec,15 06:55 other posts of bella! 
Bazinga!





By bella! at 16,Dec,15 13:03 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Another interesting and busy day for the evaluation panel.

Please note that one member, who posts pictures found on the Internet, reported another member for posting a picture from the Internet. This is like the pot calling the kettle black, isn't it? The reported member does not claim the picture to be of him and on another matter, admin said the following;


Dec 6, 22:21 admin: I do not care much about people posting internet pics unless they are pretending to be someone they are not, but I also do not care if non-paid member who does not have many friends gets deleted for posting them. I did not care if this member stays or gets deleted so I let members decide this and that's my consistency in this particular case.


I'm not sure whether the panel members aren't convinced that the reported member has enough friends or whether they've checked with admin to see if the reported member has ever paid. Hmmmmmmm........

A 2+ year member was also reported for posting a picture found on the Internet. She was contacted by a panel member and deleted the "offending" picture, yet the POSSE continues to vote to delete. What the heck!?#!@
--------------------------------------- added after 4 hours

Looks like one of the voting members decided to retract her delete vote when Big9inch21 questioned why members still continued to vote to delete once the "violation" was resolved by way of the picture being deleted. Apparently, some voting members will be fair only after they are called out on their actions.


By bella! at 12,Dec,15 09:10 other posts of bella! 
This is SOOOOO laughable..... a member was referred to the Star Chamber because Big Bother felt that a new member's blog might be racist and/or sexist and he was looking for a second opinion, of course. Yes, Big Bother not only spends time doing reverse search on images of pictures posted, he reads and reports "offensive" blogs. Sad that he's unable to OWN the fact that his words are construed as racist.


These are the blogs that were reported as objectionable.


/blogs/28393.html

/blogs/28394.html
--------------------------------------- added after 23 hours

Is a particular member stalking or attempting to intimidate new members?

If nothing else, he's not being truthful. The member was referred to the evaluation panel because of what BB perceived to be racist and sexist blogs but panel members were in agreement, the new member was only stating her preference. BB, why harass her or any of the new membership? Why not create your own website, call it DOGS, DUDES and NUDES and monitor it to your heart's content.

/blogs/28399.html
By Arexa at 13,Dec,15 08:44 other posts of Arexa 
Kinda reminds me of when he posted on Bustyasian's blog ( /blogs/21295.html )after he had reported her for blatant fakery. Lol. The lovely lady retorted by posting a proof photo shortly after.
By bella! at 13,Dec,15 09:24 other posts of bella! 
JohnS claims that the "review panel is watching". Just which review panel member(s) is/are doing all the "watching"? Why not OWN IT, JohnS, it is YOU that is watching.

STOP HARASSING MEMBERS!




By bella! at 08,Dec,15 16:33 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php

Big Bother was busy today, yes, busy protecting the site from, you guessed it, "fakes". Big Bother fails to realize that admin is not adverse to members posting pictures from the internet as long as they do not claim to be them. It's so sad that he thinks that he or his posse provide the ultimate due process. They just fail to recognize that they are not following admin's guidelines and I'm waiting for them to f-up and delete someone without just cause......

By the way, if anyone received a private message from Big Bother referring to me the Defender of Fakes, I would really like to assume the title of PHoenix of PHairness or Feenix of Fairness......


By alexblue at 20,Nov,15 03:20 other posts of alexblue 
Guess who is wanting to delete someone for a private picture ?....so laughable....

Do members really get deleted for a private picture ?

I guess they do now....
--------------------------------------- added after 26 minutes

And this is posted on the reported members page...

JohnS wrote (Nov 20, 01:05):
Please delete the web derived images, both public and private, including the female on the beach as that is against group rules.

Oh John.....where do get your authority to tell people that they cannot post web pics in private ?.....
By JustWill at 20,Nov,15 15:16 other posts of JustWill 
Alex, my friend, you KNOW why this happened.
The picture was PRIVATE.
Big Bother loathes private things of all kinds.
By bella! at 20,Nov,15 15:42 other posts of bella! 
TheUnicorn, my opinion, JohnS is only opposed to "private things" that others might be involved in because it is fact that JohnS generates a number of PM's that he would like to remain confidential as well as the notorious emails he's known for.
By CurveBall45 at 21,Nov,15 04:38 other posts of CurveBall45 
I believe the proper term for those emails or PM's in his own bullshit spewing term would be "in the strictest of confidence" I'm surprised he hasn't had that phrase copyrighted.


By alexblue at 20,Nov,15 15:43 other posts of alexblue 
Just makes me laugh....is there a term for getting a sexual thrill from deleting people ?

Funny that when Big Bother has his private stuff mentioned how much of a hissy fit he throws....

By bella! at 20,Nov,15 15:53 other posts of bella! 
TheUnicorn is also THE WordMan. If there is such a word, he will know and if there isn't, he's brilliant enough to think of one.

By bella! at 20,Nov,15 15:58 other posts of bella! 
Was the reference to JohnS as being "Big Bother" intentional? I rather like that nick and it suits him well, Big BOTHER!
By alexblue at 20,Nov,15 16:03 other posts of alexblue 
Mr Unicorn should take the credit for that..


By JustWill at 20,Nov,15 17:18 other posts of JustWill 
I believe the term might be ERADOPHILIAC.
By alexblue at 21,Nov,15 03:38 other posts of alexblue 




By bella! at 20,Nov,15 15:35 other posts of bella! 
@ alexblue, was the referred member deleted? I don't recall the nickname so I don't know how the referral ended.
By alexblue at 20,Nov,15 15:44 other posts of alexblue 
Member is still here...
By bella! at 20,Nov,15 15:50 other posts of bella! 
Thank you.





By bella! at 09,Nov,15 08:57 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php

And interesting referral made yesterday.... a member was referred to the evaluation panel for "Il.legal image" because the female looked un.derage. The picture was not titled to suggest a tender age therfore, no proof. The first voting member voted to delete with the comment that the reported member's gallery had Internet pics. I voted NO ABUSE with the comment that there was no proof that the member was un,derage and *IF* he was being referred for posting web derived pic, links should have been provided.

Fast forward to today, guess who went through 14 pages, yes, PAGES of the member's gallery and found external links. But the comment provided made me laugh; "How many of you actually bothered to check the gallery......"
By JeffinKS at 09,Nov,15 09:20 other posts of JeffinKS 
I also viewed his 14 pages of pictures.....
made my own decision and voted accordingly
I voted NO ABUSE.... on the original complaint
By bella! at 09,Nov,15 09:35 other posts of bella! 
I did view several of the 14 pages and my vote was also based on the ORIGINAL complaint! HELLO!!!!

I'm curious if anyone has ever been on a real jury. You cannot factor in anything other than the charges and the facts presented. NOTHING ELSE. My vote was not made because of a few jpeg pictures presented 8 votes in but on the original charge made, that the picture uploaded looked like someone too young ( and that picture was removed ). I wonder who uploaded the 3 additional pictures that were later presented and are being voted on?
--------------------------------------- added after 5 minutes

What I also found amusing is that one of the links provided was a selfie site. Can you imagine being deleted for posting on a selfie site!

only registered users can see external links
By JeffinKS at 09,Nov,15 09:40 other posts of JeffinKS 
I have not only been part of a real jury.. but have sat in on a few others.... I have a very good understanding of how it works...
By bella! at 09,Nov,15 10:28 other posts of bella! 
You are an exceptional man and that's why I admire you!






By bella! at 27,Oct,15 10:46 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Please see what's going on today.


As you will see, a brand new member has posted a picture from another member's gallery. What's interesting is that the first voting member has identified that the picture was originally posted by bk12345, /member.php?w=7988 AND that the reported member had uploaded other web derived pictures. What the what is going on? Why did the first member vote NO ABUSE? He consistently refers questionable members aka "fakes" on a daily basis yet when presented with a picture stealing fake, he votes NO ABUSE. This inconsistency and sour grapes attitude has got to stop and because of that, I have sent a private message to admin stating so. The member's voting privileges need to be revoked and revoked immediately.
--------------------------------------- added after 23 minutes

Aww, you were too late because the spineless asshat has gone in and amended his vote. I wonder if me contacting admin then sending him/JohnS confirmation that I had done so. But it's your lucky day, I saved the ORIGINAL vote and the ORIGINAL comment. For your reading pleasure.....

: Type: Copyright/Stolen   Member pussylover  Reported by palunko at 27,Oct 09:52   Rating: 0 


Violating Images: 
  
Explanation: I think this member post pics of other members, for example http://showitoff.org/rx9f2leuk61zpic.htmlsame as /pvmb0tj9wj7wpic.html and other pics also from some members like this one/y1isns9dhl6xpic.html only I can't remember that member...

ABUSE HAS NO GROUND   27,Oct 10:08 By JohnS 
The above image can also be seen in the gallery of another member "bk12345". Also a gallery perusal reveals links to external websites on other images. I will leave this matter to the relevant people for their investigation.
--------------------------------------- added after 26 minutes

By the way JohnS, we don't leave messages requesting that members who steal another member's pictures, we just delete them. OR DID YOU FORGET, OLD MAN?


By bella! at 18,Oct,15 00:31 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php

An interesting referral and a decent debate going on. As I commented with my vote, this is NOT the type of picture that I find appealing and admin does provide a "Tortured Dick" category. Clearly, this is a Photoshop'd picture so here's the dilemma that I find. Should we, as voting members, regard ALL Photoshop pictures in the same light OR only those that have gone "too far"? Then there's "too far", what is "too far"?

Keep an eye on member, potty, let's watch how this unravels for this 18 month + member.
--------------------------------------- added after 12 hours

The vote is at a +4 with 32 members voting.

It looks like you're going to be deleted, potty, member #454181. It's unfortunate that you will be deleted without even knowing why or given the opportunity to correct the perceived problem. Unfortunately, that's the way things happen around here, members are blindsided and deleted without being given notification and as quickly as possible.

Your Photoshop pictures offended many because you went "too far".
By _avg_ at 18,Oct,15 18:15 other posts of _avg_ 
Pretty sure bl00d and mutilation, even simulated, is "too far." Nothing unclear or unreasonable about that.

Let me put it another way: even the WORD 'bl00d' is censored on this site. A photo of a bl00dy penis, even simulated, should be no different.

And let's take it a step further, as maybe the objection is that it's ONLY a photoshop: should that matter? What if it's ONLY a photoshop with another member? Or with YOU? Or with a K!D??

Seems to me, if it's not permitted on this site, even the fantasy of it is not permitted.

Now, I'll shed no tears over members who've been voted out by the community, but perhaps a suggestion for Admin: when a member accumulates enough votes against them on an abuse report, their account should be immediately SUSPENDED (ie removed from public viewing) until YOU (Admin) have personally reviewed a deletion referral.

It should ultimately be Admin's call, anyways. If nothing else it would curb these playground politics and give all referrals equal footing.
By bella! at 19,Oct,15 00:35 other posts of bella! 
A "suspended" account, that sounds like a wonderful idea.

It is sad that members are referred to the evaluation panel for deletion for flimsy reasons and it is equally sad that a good number of those referrals are deleted. Personally, I'm not interested in "tortured dick", it doesn't appeal to me at any level and I've said this before, I am not aroused or interested in seeing pissing pictures streamed on the "normal" page, either.

Clearly, "too far" is a subjective term and the voting members already have problems with the guidelines given by admin. With that said, I would be interested if you elaborated on the "playground politics". Thank you.




By bella! at 09,Oct,15 07:51 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Geez, was I wrong! I thought I would wake up this morning to find a SYC member on the chopping block because her parts were found elsewhere. In another thread found in the Dumpster, a member identified yet another member as the SYD Pecker Inspector. The identified member not only inspects peckers and lady parts, add nicknames, too!

Let's watch and see what develops with his new referral.
--------------------------------------- added after 13 hours

It is sad that some of the voters don't understand the ramifications involved based on their BIASED vote.


By bella! at 07,Oct,15 03:41 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Please notice that a longtime and active female member has been referred to the evaluation panel for deletion for posting "il.legal images". Please notice the date on those pictures, October, 2012, 3 years ago. What could be behind her profile name, is it an amateur website?

It took 3 long years of diligent investigative skills to root her out BUT she has finally been exposed!

Keep your eyes on this member and her offense to see how the membership votes!

Please read the anonymous message posted on her wall, it's at the top, the one immediately below JohnS's post advising her that it's against the site rules to post pictures that she does not personally own.


anonymous wrote Oct 7, 02:37):

You should not allow your chat room to be used to discuss and attack other members.
By Arexa at 07,Oct,15 04:29 other posts of Arexa 
It is indeed an amateur site, same nature as chaturbate.
By bella! at 07,Oct,15 04:36 other posts of bella! 
Thanks for confirming that bit of information!

I would love to know who her anonymous poster is ( ), the anonymous person that reminded her that it's not nice to be affiliated with others that are nothing but big ol' meanies?
--------------------------------------- added after 6 hours

Glad to say that the voting members got it right! Woo Hoo!

If you're curious who the active, longtime female member was who posted "il.legal" pictures that reflected another website's information behind her SYC nickname, it was ( yeah, I'm going to tell you as soon as her Homeland Security backs off and her pictures are removed from America's Most Wanted list......

/member.php?w=308404


By JustWill at 07,Oct,15 12:31 other posts of JustWill 
"You should not allow your chat room to be used to discuss and attack other members." So freaking hilarious!
(Everyone knows that the place to do that sort of thing is MAIN chat.)
It's also amusing when folks don't have the balls to post under their user name. When an anonymous, ball-less coward leaves a note on your page, it isn't worth the time wasted in reading it.
By bella! at 07,Oct,15 12:53 other posts of bella! 
Seriously, who do YOU think believes that they have the authority to suggest that members should not allow their chat room to be used "discuss or attack others"?

If you give that some thought, that would probably answer who the ball-less wonder is, no?
By JustWill at 07,Oct,15 15:10 other posts of JustWill 
Are they ESOTERIC chat rooms?


By milesbferry at 07,Oct,15 19:21 other posts of milesbferry 
Everyone knows there is no MAIN chat. If you mean FREE chat - nobody uses that either.
By Arexa at 07,Oct,15 20:48 other posts of Arexa 
I seem to have gotten banned from free chat during the time I was away. I took a break from site for a month and came back to find I'm banned and can only chat as an anonymous.
By bella! at 07,Oct,15 20:57 other posts of bella! 
Well, at least you have a work around!
By Arexa at 07,Oct,15 21:59 other posts of Arexa 
True. Gets annoying having to explain it though. Maybe I should just embrace the anonymity...







By bella! at 26,Sep,15 20:33 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php

An interesting referral made to the evaluation panel today. How will voting members address a member accused of posting a picture that was found on an amateur website? At the time that I originally voted, there were already 2 votes to delete, I voted NO ABUSE and added this comment;

"Although I have my doubts about the validity of a member posting one picture, the website that this picture was found on IS AN AMATEUR WEBSITE. SYD/SYC membership is not contingent upon exclusivity to SYD or SYC."

As you can see, the voting members are split in how they feel but what I find objectionable are the additional comments that are not related to the referral.
By jayman73 at 26,Sep,15 21:30 other posts of jayman73 
I have a suggestion. I think it would be reasonable to request a verification photo of the member in violation. Have them take a new picture with them holding a sheet of paper stating their username and date in a similiar pose like the pic in question. If they're real they should not have a problem obtaining that. If they show their face then have them send a real face pic and we can compare. They don't have to send a face pic if they don't show their face in the picture in question, mind you. Just if they do. I'm not suggesting that they show their face if they didn't, just if they do so we can confirm that.

By Yoopers at 26,Sep,15 21:32 other posts of Yoopers 
It's not just one amateur site, this pic is posted on dozens of other sites, not just amateur ones either. I'm sure Brittany O'neil posted her pic here. Right!! I'm sure if I question her about it? I will be blacklisted and told to fuck off. If she can provide me a screenshot of her logged into said amateur site, than I'll believe her. I won't hold my breath waiting.
By bella! at 26,Sep,15 22:25 other posts of bella! 
Big9inch21, isn't it the reporting member's obligation to provide the "proof" of their allegation. I also searched TinEye and saw the same "40 matches".

only registered users can see external links

Out of curiosity, did you Google Brittany O'Neil? I did and I did not find the young "woman" that posted one picture on SYC. Unless I did not dig deep enough, Google states Brittany O'Neil is 44 years old, the picture is not representative of a 44 year old.

Hey, my gripe isn't about the report itself, or about how members voted, it is about the additional comments that aren't related to the referral and that are definitely not needed. That's all......
By Yoopers at 26,Sep,15 22:55 other posts of Yoopers 
As I said on the panel, I usually agree with you. Some of those 40+ matches date back to 2013. She states she 18 now, that would make her 16 back then?? We are letting to many fakes slide by, especially when we warn them first to remove the violating pix. Are we not just helping them slide by 80% of the time?
By bella! at 27,Sep,15 00:39 other posts of bella! 
Admin has clarified his guidelines. With relationship to requesting a member remove a picture or pictures, that nuance is for longtime members, not for those that begin and build their profiles based on deception. These are admin's words;


"...accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them."

I understand your logic and where you're coming from, the profile states she's 18 years old yet Internet pictures go back to 2013. As I said, I have doubts about the profile being legitimate BUT....do I cast my vote based on my "gut feelings" or based on concrete facts?




By _avg_ at 27,Sep,15 03:02 other posts of _avg_ 
"I have doubts about the profile being legitimate BUT....do I cast my vote based on my "gut feelings" or based on concrete facts?"

This basically adresses the larger point of your complaint against this abuse report -- specifically, that the evidence of the abuse that's been provided doesn't constitute "proof" -- I would like to repeat my response to Admin on this thread:

/forum/thread.php?id=24475

""“Admin: links to anonymous image sharing boards, sites like this one or personal blogs can't be a proof. You never know who taken from where.”"

If you meant for the panel to evaluate members as ‘fakes’ then you severely undercut them with this statement. Literally any website without a copyright is disqualified from consideration.

The popularity and ubiquity of ‘anonymous image sharing’ sites means that they are the primary sources of private images on the internet -- if a member were to misrepresent themselves here, and post images that they do not have express permission to post, the overwhelming likelihood is that they derived the image from one of “anonymous image sharing boards, sites like this one or personal blogs.”

**THE LOGICAL CONCLUSION OF YOUR STATEMENT is that whenever a member posts to this site an image that can be found elsewhere on the internet, the posting member must be assumed to either be the subject of the image, or have the permission of the subject. Moreover, when evaluating a submission to the panel, voters cannot rely on ANY site that is not copy-righted as evidence**

Seriously, think about it: there are members here who would post images they do not have explicit permission to post. **How are we supposed to identify those members?? With what can we support our position??**"
By Yoopers at 27,Sep,15 06:34 other posts of Yoopers 
Like I said before, if these said images are from a legitimate amateur site? They should be able to provide a screenshot of them with access to said site? Right? Just like Zoig.com for example, our pix are on there else well as here, I can provide proof that I can log into the site as well as here. A fake cannot provide that screenshot proof. Pretty simple to us.Case closed
Saved another fake! I'm happy for ya!!
By bella! at 27,Sep,15 10:19 other posts of bella! 
Sorry, I don't understand your post and I question whether you understood my POINT. Below, is the last sentence of my ORIGINAL post;

"As you can see, the voting members are split in how they feel but what I FIND OBJECTIONABLE are the additional comments that are not related to the referral."





By bella! at 21,Sep,15 23:28 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


For those who are interested in today's referral and voting of the abuse report/evaluation panel. Yes, the pictures posted are web derived, yes, the titles would suggest that the posting member *might* be trying to trying to pass these off as his but he has been a member for almost one year and hasn't been online for almost 24 hours.

The same members continue to vote to delete the offending member without the benefit of deleting the pictures in question AND the same members continue to want to give the member the opportunity to weigh the option of deleting the pictures or having his profile deleted.....
By #316057 at 21,Sep,15 23:57
yeah the numbers are going down cause we don't give people a chance to deleted the bad picture .. soon no one will be here and I hat e that to happen..
By admin at 22,Sep,15 00:20 other posts of admin 
I hear this argument all the time, but statistically it's not valid. In past 20 days 400 members deleted their accounts and only 20 were deleted by me or the panel. Actually, the panel deleted only 13. And about 600 accounts were automatically deleted because they were inactive for too long.


And in the same time, several people who deleted their profiles specified as a reason "too many fakes".
By bella! at 22,Sep,15 01:28 other posts of bella! 
To admin, your last sentence is interesting, you mention that several people deleted their profile stating that there were "too many fakes". Did I understand you correctly, when members delete their profiles, they're asked why?
By admin at 22,Sep,15 08:15 other posts of admin 
Yes, I added this some time ago. It's optional and only one out of 5 actually write something in the "reason" field, and half of it is gibberish, as usual. Yet, it's very interesting. I see in the same time from different people "too many comments" and "not enough comments", "boring" and "too addictive". Also there are some "afraid my wife finds out", "I'm scared of becoming a gay", "unwanted advances on my partner", etc.

Regrettably I see no any pattern what I could do to stop them leaving. Their reasons as you see may be completely opposite and irrelevant to site structure and performance.
By bella! at 22,Sep,15 09:39 other posts of bella! 
Good feature!

I frequently make purchases online and in the event I don't want that product, when it is returned I am asked "why?"

It's disappointing that only 20% of the departing members provide you feedback and what's even more disappointing is that so many members speak in gibberish!
By admin at 22,Sep,15 10:28 other posts of admin 
Well, the gibberish I mentioned is mostly when people do not read carefully what it says and repeat their password in that field, instead of entering a reason.

Does it really surprise you that many people do not read carefully?


By JustWill at 22,Sep,15 10:14 other posts of JustWill 
People actually respond with "I'm scared of becoming a gay" ?
That is just hilarious!
By sinanff47 at 23,Sep,15 22:16 other posts of sinanff47 
IMHO, I actually think it's very sad, not just "hilarious", given that so many truly believe this nonsense. For example, SYD is full of those who state in the Forum, that their wife won't put toys or fingers in their bums when they are intimate together because they are afraid of 'turning them gay'.





By Arexa at 22,Sep,15 00:24 other posts of Arexa 
I know, right. It gets rather ridiculous how quick people are deleted sometimes.

By bella! at 22,Sep,15 15:22 other posts of bella! 
After more than 24 hours, the member has logged on seen my private message and deleted the photos in question.

The last vote, which happened to be NO ABUSE was at 13:47. Let's see how this will unravel......

By bella! at 22,Sep,15 17:57 other posts of bella! 
Looks like one of the voting members has "cancelled" her vote. It's unfortunate that many members are so quick to vote to delete someone without giving him/her the opportunity to correct or respond to the reported "problem".




By bella! at 31,Aug,15 19:28 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php

An interesting 24 hours plus in the Star Chamber. Members being referred because their age appears tenuous and because some of their pictures appear on the Internet on amateur sites.

Can you believe that, members posting pictures on other sites!? One voting member went as far in their investigation to determine that the referred member uploaded 13 pictures in 5 minutes. With that mindset, members need to be cautious when uploading pictures....please don't go too fast, just because.....
By #472683 at 31,Aug,15 19:55
Yeah! Not for nothing, we are exhibitionists. What are the odds many of us have photos on multiple sites! I used to be on xhampster as well.

I wonder if it was I who was referred. I found a treasure trove of pics from a few years back, lost files, and I uploaded a bunch last night.
By bella! at 31,Aug,15 20:18 other posts of bella! 
If you are referred, don't worry, I will vote NO ABUSE.

Wait a minute, how long did it take you to upload those pictures?


By #456050 at 01,Sep,15 00:10
13 pictures in 5 minutes huh, OMG the world is ending LOL. I guess anyone that takes more than one or two pics at a time and has a halfway decent internet connection is in trouble.
By bella! at 01,Sep,15 00:24 other posts of bella! 
I k!d you not!


DELETE THIS MEMBER   31,Aug 11:47 By ****
"Tiff Tiff" uploaded 13 pics in 5 minutes - pics that are already spread around the world. I dont understand why people cudgel their brains for keeping those fakes here.


This is more reasonable....this member could only upload 12 pictures in 9 minutes /member.php?w=497121


By Kobra at 01,Sep,15 03:20 other posts of Kobra 
Ill add as I went through some comments and I second on the "crucial380" page if anyone has any sort of eye in their sockets they can see that those pictures are NOT the member as posted. in the first few pictures of the member between the ending pictures are COMPLETLEY different. The member is fake and needs to have fake pictures removed.
By bella! at 01,Sep,15 04:38 other posts of bella! 
Ha! It's as if the pot called the kettle black....the member being referred for deletion was referred because she LOOKS young and her pictures can be found elsewhere on the Internet. Well of course the member looks young, the member reporting her is almost 70 years old. As for the voting members, the only criteria tha they have to meet is that they have been a member for 2 consecutive years. They're not required to be unbiased or have any common sense and so often, I wonder if they can read! I mean, you have a member who is voting to delete another member because she looks young and because her pictures can be found on the Internet. What's rich is that the member voting for the members deletion has a bucket full of web derived pictures posted on his page. Ya gotta love the double standards!


It is what it is....
By admin at 01,Sep,15 10:36 other posts of admin 
In general there is nothing wrong with member being reported for one thing and being deleted for another. And report for being young is quite common case. Why? Because "young" (or it's rather called "teen") is a niche in porn. There is a demand so there is a supply, porn producers find people who are over 18 but looks younger.

To make an example - you may still find old images of "little Lupe" on google. See yourself. She's about 30 now and a singer, and many photos of her you will see are not so young anymore, but there are still old photos of her that looks way too young. There was even a case when a man almost got in prison for having those photos on his PC but it got kinda famous and she personally came to the trial and testified. She surely was over 18.

It's no wonder that people find models like that on the net and post those photos here like their own, because on this site young-looking bodies also attract attention. Naturally they get reported for looking too young sooner or later, because they really do - that was the whole purpose of people who produced them. Then reviewers take a closer look at them and see they are taken from the net. The member is deleted for using stolen photos. Nothing wrong with this.
By bella! at 01,Sep,15 11:58 other posts of bella! 
Again, to someone that is almost 70 years old, a young lady of 18 is going to look young! There's a name for men that LOOK young, twinks. For heaven's sake, many find twinks exciting and there is a market for that y.


It seems as though the member that referred Tiff-Tiff, spends an inordinate amount of time scrutinizing the pictures of SYC members and often times his "evidence" is nothing more than amateur sites, jpeg photos, blogs, tumblr, etc. I find it absurd to think that new members haven't posted elsewhere OR the possibility that someone admired the picture(s) and re-posted it in a blog or somewhere else.


I was looking at the new members and found this post, his post on a new female member's wall;


**** wrote Aug 28, 03:38 ):
Please be aware that this may be a spammer.


What is the purpose of his post? If any of her pictures were found on the Internet, she would have already been referred to the evaluation panel for deletion, so that's not the problem. Is he warning members not to send her points, money, private pictures, WHAT? The word *MIGHT* says it all, he has no clue. Is the new member being profiled and targeted because she is Russian or just because she is a female?


Yes, in the end, the general concensus of the evaluation panel was to delete Tiff-Tiff and now she is gone.


On another matter, I think the capital "S" that the referring member sports in his profile name really stands for "Savior", our own true life, SYD/SYC Internet Savior!



By bella! at 01,Sep,15 10:07 other posts of bella! 
Looks like Tiff-Tiff is no longer....she must have been deleted because she looked young and because some of her pictures were found on the Internet, amateur sites. OH MY! Couple those two nefarious reasons along with her being able to get 13 pictures in 5 minutes and it's quite clear, right? Well it is clear to some that won't think outside the box!
By Arexa at 01,Sep,15 12:09 other posts of Arexa 
Hahaha (the member you linked to above) was reported last night as well... Same deal, minus the young part... Deleted within a couple short hours due to jpegs and amateur sites...



By CountryCouple54 at 01,Sep,15 12:55 other posts of CountryCouple54 
I h a t e to intrude on your Star Wars Chamber thing or what ever this thing is called. I don't know if member Tiff-Tiff was real or fake or a troll.. I don't know if she was too young, too old, male, female. Doesn't matter. But what I do know was the one and only pic he or she unloaded that didn't show her face, was a pic of my wife's shaved vagina. They were doing fine uploading the pics of the girl with strawberry hair on her head and vagina. Then they fucked up by stealing and uploading my wife's pic. Dark skin and a shaved vagina. I can not vote in the abuse panel nor did we report it to administration. However, I did confront the member through their homepage and a comment to the pic that was ours. My msg was deleted and I was banned by the member. I also left a msg on SYC main page calling them out as well.
--------------------------------------- added after 2 minutes

I think this one was a good call. Just my opinion
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I'm not sure of the site rules and if a member should be deleted for stealing other members pics. All I simply asked from Tiff-Tiff was to please remove the pic. Made no difference to us if they stayed. But all I got from Tiff-Tiff was a deletion and being blacklisted.
By admin at 01,Sep,15 14:05 other posts of admin 
Members who post pics of other members as their own are banned with no hesitations if reported to me.

By bella! at 02,Sep,15 01:49 other posts of bella! 
@ countryboy54. Star Chamber began as a legitimate judicial system in England back in the 1500's. Here's a copy and paste taken from the Internet.


Court sessions were held in public, although witnesses and defendants were examined in se.cret.[1] Defendants were given prior notice of the charges against them, and had the right to be represented by an attorney.[2] Evidence was presented in writing. Over time, the Star Chamber evolved into a political weapon, a symbol of the misuse and abuse of power by the English monarchy and its courts.


It is thought that in the past, the evaluation panel was run like the Star Chamber. Although things might look they are being handled on the up and up, matters were being handled in a se.cretive manner, that members were being deleted swiftly for petty or possibly unfounded reasons.


Getting back to the matter of Tiff-Tiff, for the most part, I will look at the evidence presented to determine whether it's "legit". I can honestly say that for the most part, when I attempt to validate the information presented, I do not study the pictures that intently and I do not believe that the many voting members that voted after me caught that discrepancy either. It was nothing intentional.


I can offer you this thought, you can be part of the problem or part of the solution. When you attemped to resolve this matter member to member and for your trouble, you were blacklisted, you could have and should have reached out to admin for assistance. I will honestly say that my vote was solely based on the reporting member questioning the validity of her age as well as the one picture that circled back to an amateur site, tumblr and jpeg....
By Filly at 22,Sep,15 05:41 other posts of Filly 
I clearly do not miss being on the panel anymore.





By bella! at 07,Sep,15 02:59 other posts of bella! 
A polite message to a member with two web derived pictures on the Popular page was all it took. No voting, no debates....


Sep 7, 01:39 bella!: Thank you.

Sep 7, 01:33 ****: L

Sep 7, 01:32 ****: Done! Thanks for the warning!

Sep 7, 01:24 ****: Will do

Sep 6, 20:39 bella!: Hi. I'm asking you to delete all Internet pictures before your profile is referred to the evaluation panel for deletion. You've been a member for such a long time, it would be ashame if you were to be deleted for posting pictures that you do not own. Thank you.


By bella! at 06,Sep,15 20:51 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


A member has been referred to the Star Chamber because she must be a fake. WHY? Her profile says she's 26 years old but the referring member seems to think her cooter looks 56! Oye!
By #472683 at 06,Sep,15 21:11
O-M-G. Didn't know we could determine age via appearance of cooter.
By bella! at 06,Sep,15 21:27 other posts of bella! 
We will have to wait and see how the well versed and knowledgeable misogynistic voters will cast their vote on this cooter!
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Well.....either 3 votes came in very quickly OR admin waved his magic wand!
By admin at 06,Sep,15 22:15 other posts of admin 
I did nothing about that report.



By admin at 06,Sep,15 21:39 other posts of admin 
Yes, this is a kind of stupidity I had to deal with all the time when I was processing reports myself. Panel itself has little to do with this, however. You are lucky you do not see anonymous reports, I do not let those go to panel.

Like "cool" stories written by members who forgot their password and want to delete their own (usually fake) profile and are too stupid to just ask. "I'm a mother of this boy and his friend shown me this page, he's under.age and I'll go to police if you do not delete it". Or "It's my girlfriend, she's under 13 (wut???) and I have already reported you to FBI and Interpol" (about some photos that look way over 30).


Or some religious Indian or Arab with butthurt who abuse one profile after another with the same stupid false reason for every one of them. Like I cannot see they are a bunch of reports from the same person with exactly the same false reason.

All this stupidity, however, does not negate the fact that at least 75% of female profiles here are fake and most of them never reported, unless burned someone's ass in chat.
By bella! at 06,Sep,15 23:36 other posts of bella! 
Well, I'm impressed that "we" ( panel members ) did not debate the age of her whoo haa and that the accusation was dismissed quickly.

If you would kindly indulge me, how is possible to send you "anonymous" reports? It would seem impossible to do so. No, on second thought, I don't want to know.

On another note, you can be quite humorous. The last sentence made me laugh aloud.... "at least 75% of female profiles here are fake and most of them never reported, unless burned someone's ass in chat." It was actually the unless burned someone's ass in chat that had me laughing. Ain't that the truth! Thanks for the laugh!




By bella! at 05,Sep,15 09:19 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Let's see what's going on today.


Currently, there's two members that are being evaluated, one because he's interested in "inzzest" and one because she's "fake". What's interesting is that the member and Saviour that REFERRED the female for being "fake" voted not to delete the member that spunked all over his aunt's ass. Is that messed up!?
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You know, I have to wonder if the member who was referred to the evaluation panel for deletion because of his interest in discussing "inzzest" would have been handled quicker if it was a referral made by someone other than the member who made it. That probably sounds more complicated than what it really is....but to break it down, one prominent member who is always concerned about morals and "donkey votes", cast a donkey vote himself. WHY, YOU ASK? Simple, he doesn't like the member that made the referral. Can you imagine that!?
By JustWill at 05,Sep,15 15:21 other posts of JustWill 
Don't be silly!
According to the new guidelines published in the current issue of HYPOCRITES WEEKLY, they are only "donkey votes" if OTHER people cast them.

(I'm not sure why anyone would want to vote for a donkey.)
By bella! at 05,Sep,15 16:10 other posts of bella! 
Did you get to see the referral and how Mr.I Will Reserve My Vote At This Time Because He Has Been REBUKED ( oh hell, that is a long name ) cast his vote?

By bella! at 05,Sep,15 16:14 other posts of bella! 
BTW, who is the Editor in Chief of HYPOCRITES WEEKLY?
By JustWill at 05,Sep,15 18:45 other posts of JustWill 
The ghost of Dick Cheney.





By bella! at 05,Sep,15 16:26 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


There's only one issue that has not been resolved in the Star Chamber, it the matter of the girl with modified eyes. What's funny is "someone" *wink*, *wink*, that posted an anonymous messages on the referred member's wall, warning others that she's FAKE........ Could it be Captain Asshat?

anonymous wrote (Sep 5, 10:35):
Please be aware this is a FAKE account, it is a the latest return of a regular fake. If you comment you are only doing so to a fake.


By bella! at 28,Aug,15 18:26 other posts of bella! 
A Star Chamber update;

I referred Justin Bieber to the Star Chamber and he was deleted quickly. Regardless of how hot anyone believes their pictures are and how confident anyone believes that other members will love them, Justin has been deleted and will NOT be able to visit their page unless he does so anonymously.
By JustWill at 28,Aug,15 22:26 other posts of JustWill 
I guess you're not a Belieber...
By Yoopers at 05,Sep,15 03:02 other posts of Yoopers 




By JustWill at 05,Sep,15 00:02 other posts of JustWill 
All of the SIMILAR TOPICS to this thread were posted by the same deleted guy! (I think he is stalking me...)
By bella! at 05,Sep,15 00:29 other posts of bella! 
The smell of sarcasm is in the air.......
By Yoopers at 05,Sep,15 02:59 other posts of Yoopers 




By JustWill at 04,Sep,15 14:07 other posts of JustWill 
My favorite quote left in the Star Chamber today by a member eager to see someone deleted: "Don't waste your time anymore, John ! Let's just get rid of that cunt !"

Yep.
The folks in the Star Chamber are just little rays of sunshine.
By bella! at 04,Sep,15 15:46 other posts of bella! 
I fricken saw that myself, it was written by the member that blacklisted both you and me. Strange, I applauded the same member for writing the blog entitled NO PLACE, these are the words;

NO PLACE FOR HOMOPHOBIA, FASCISM, SEXISM, RACISM OR IDIOTS !


I guess he doesn't live the words he wrote. Disappointing,very disappointing......



By JustWill at 01,Sep,15 11:57 other posts of JustWill 
Here's an interesting one:
Yesterday, a member was referred to the Star Chamber by a guy who accused them of stealing and posting other member's pics. The case was dismissed, because there weren't even any pictures posted on the reported member's page.
Today, the guy who filed the bogus report was deleted...because all of the pictures posted on HIS page were stolen.


By bella! at 28,Aug,15 09:02 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


Another "interesting" referral to the Star Chamber. Please note the reason the member was referred.... "You may remember the silly tattoo from our last encounter".  So the referral was because of the silly tattoo and that the image of her butt was found on imgur.com ( oh my! )
By JustWill at 28,Aug,15 09:10 other posts of JustWill 
But I "remember the silly tattoo from our last encounter"!
Isn't there some official site rule against posting pics featuring a "silly tattoo"?
What truly puzzles me is why a person who has been deleted for posting "silly tattoo" pics would come back--again and again--and post the EXACT SAME web-derived, "silly tattoo" photos. That's insane!
Don't they understand that we don't like their kind around these parts?
By bella! at 28,Aug,15 09:27 other posts of bella! 
Most likely the member was never given Official Site Notification that her tattoo was deemed to be "silly".
By JustWill at 28,Aug,15 09:33 other posts of JustWill 
I believe that the offices of the Ministry of Silly Tattoos are right down the hall from the Ministry of Silly Walks. Perhaps they can give us a ruling on the matter...
By bella! at 28,Aug,15 10:07 other posts of bella! 






By JustWill at 26,Aug,15 15:49 other posts of JustWill 
Congratulations, SYD members!
Now that you are keeping a closer eye on the shenanigans that go on in the Star Chamber, there have been fewer bogus reports lately.
Nice work keeping them honest, guys and gals!


By bella! at 26,Aug,15 13:25 other posts of bella! 
/abuse_reports.php


There was an interesting referral made today. I'm why not certain why the member was referred, my guess is that the member referring isn't even clear why, otherwise the report would have been more detailed. It will be interesting how the panel members will view this and cast their vote.
By JustWill at 26,Aug,15 14:10 other posts of JustWill 
Another in a string of Asian ladies being referred by that particular member...
By bella! at 26,Aug,15 14:45 other posts of bella! 
Was it ever determined why "you know who" voted this thread/topic down? I hope they can understand this thread is for complete transparency.
By JustWill at 26,Aug,15 15:43 other posts of JustWill 
Either it's his knee-jerk reaction to anything I post (he has a habit of just down-voting me out of spite), or he is upset that his cover is blown.
He'll never answer the question, though. Transparency/honesty is NOT in his Nature...





By licksipsuckit at 25,Aug,15 06:56 other posts of licksipsuckit 
bella, been back on my page looking again and left me a nice comment incognito, "get out of my face whack-a-doodle cuckoo bitch" sound familiar to you??? looks very familiar to your words here don't you think, you should try not to use the same words when posting anonymously in future.. you block me but come to my page to spread your h@te...don't you have any self respect??? you still cant practice what you preach??? *lix*
By JustWill at 25,Aug,15 09:59 other posts of JustWill 
This isn't really a Star Chamber related issue, though. I started this thread to remind members to check out the referral for deletion page...to help keep voting members honest. If the thread gets turned into a spot where folks snipe at each other, Admin will send it to the dumpster. That will defeat the purpose of starting the thread...
By bella! at 25,Aug,15 10:32 other posts of bella! 
I blacklisted suckit and she's unable to post on my thread. You know, I find it odd that in her private message response to me, ( she deleted my post on her blog made months earlier ) that she didn't want a female posting on her page. Truth be told, I would have respected her honesty had she just said her issue is only with me.

With that said, what's her logic to continually post on a thread that I authored?

Also, her claim that I've posted anonymously on her wall is not true, that's not my style.

By licksipsuckit at 25,Aug,15 11:41 other posts of licksipsuckit 
yes l deleted it bella, and you still have a problem with that..you didn't respect my honesty, choice or my opinion then and you still don't, l don't like you personally, l don't like your posts, l don't like your attitude, your illogical reposts and your childish post on my wall, lve left it there for all to see...you have attacked me personally and if there really was a 'star chamber' that got rid of people that @buse others, it would of deleted you long ago...keep going bella, your fans love your work *lix*
By JustWill at 25,Aug,15 11:58 other posts of JustWill 
/abuse_reports.php


There really is a Star Chamber. That's the address right up there. It was intended as a way for voting members to help weed out profiles posting stolen pics and such, but it is frequently misused as a means to push personal agendas and petty grievances. Which is why folks should check it out from time to time.


Again, I'm not quite sure why this issue has to play out here. For a mere twenty points, you can start your own thread to hash this issue out.


If you can't spare the 20 points, let me know. I will gladly pay the points and start a thread for you. Another option would be to just go back over to the "Dafuq" thread and continue this particular gripe session there...
By licksipsuckit at 25,Aug,15 12:32 other posts of licksipsuckit 
l don't need to keep playing it out, l can see the back pedalling already *lix*






By bella! at 17,Aug,15 14:40 other posts of bella! 
And some might wonder why I refer to members as whack-a-doodles! I write admin to ask how he would handle a referral of a member posting web derived pictures. Below is his response.


Aug 17, 12:02 admin: sure


Aug 17, 11:06 bella!: Thank you. May I share your thoughts with the voting panel?


Aug 17, 11:01 admin: I would delete 3 pics in question, problem solved.


Aug 17, 10:18 bella!: He's currently up for "evaluation".


Aug 17, 10:17 bella!: Hi. This is a very sincere question, this is a member for 13 months...Would you delete this member or would you give him an opportunity to rectify the problem? I want to be certain that I understand your guidelines correctly /member.php?w=466205


The voting members are not able to embrace the fact that:


ADMIN'S GUIDELINES SAY THIS; If the abuse is not grave please try to convince the member to delete the pics in question before deleting him entirely. Last phrase is meant for profiles posting internet porn as internet porn, i.e. who do not pretend to be people on those photos or friends of those people. It is NOT meant for accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them.


ADMIN'S GUIDELINES SAY THIS; If it appears later that the member was deleted unjustly - all members who were in favour of the deletion will be deleted and banned from the site.


Apparently, popular opinion is that evaluation matters are all neat and clean and should be resolved in a matter of hours. If the voting members take note of admin's post, these issues can linger up to 10 days! Heaven help the member that doesn't sign on in 24 hours, they can be out of here without knowing what happened. POOF! GONE!


It just amazes me just how thick headed some members will be!


/abuse_reports.php


By bella! at 11,Aug,15 22:57 other posts of bella! 
Crazy TheUnicorn! You should have posted the link to make it easier.


I'm glad that admin provided the link so that membership can actually see who the site whack-a-doodles really are!


/abuse_reports.php
By JustWill at 12,Aug,15 10:01 other posts of JustWill 
Thanks, bella.
I have no idea why I didn't do that...

By JustWill at 16,Aug,15 13:37 other posts of JustWill 
Bump
By bella! at 16,Aug,15 14:29 other posts of bella! 
Yes, it's an interesting day in the Star Chamber. Even though admin's guidelines state;


If the abuse is not grave please try to convince the member to delete the pics in question before deleting him entirely Last phrase is meant for profiles posting internet porn as internet porn, i.e. who do not pretend to be people on those photos or friends of those people. It is NOT meant for accounts that start their life on the site posting internet porn pretending it's them.


The same members quickly vote to delete even though there is no deception involved. There was a relatively new voting member that proceeded to vote to delete without allowing the referred member and opportunity to rectify or respond....


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By bella! at 14,Aug,15 18:21 other posts of bella! 
As anticipated, JohnS did not respond to my request to elaborate on why he voted my comment down.

You would think that that was his opportunity to state what he felt was inaccurate about my comment(s). Apparently, he has been very busy gathering and posting photos of members that he enjoys poking at and making fun of.
By JustWill at 14,Aug,15 18:26 other posts of JustWill 
What I don't understand is why he down-voted this thread.
It is intended to encourage all members to be aware of how the deletion panel works...so that everything can be done openly and honestly.

John has ALWAYS claimed to be against secr*ts here on SYD.
Why would he object to transparency in the Star Chamber?

(It seems like SOMEONE has something to hide.)



By bella! at 13,Aug,15 12:27 other posts of bella! 
This was a recent comment made by a voting member on the evaluation panel;


DELETE THIS MEMBER   13,Aug 09:07 By ****
A regular fake. It slipped under the radar yesterday. The link above is to the original uncropped version stolen by the fake. Also the message left by **** has been seen and ignored by the fake.


What the voting member failed to mention was that [s]he provided incorrect links to the alleged website(s) to support their claim. So in my estimation, nothing slipped under the radar, it was obvious that someone did do their due diligence and present good information. 👈 To that reporting and voting member, just as I do, you also make mistakes. The difference between us is that you NEVER admit you're wrong.


By JustWill at 12,Aug,15 13:08 other posts of JustWill 
Granted, you can't VOTE in the panel until you've been a member for two consecutive years, but it is still worthwhile to check and see if you or a member you have contact with are up on the block for deletion.
It is also interesting to observe the referring/voting patterns of the more active panel members.
One guy consistently referred and voted to delete profiles of guys with bigger dicks than his.
Another habitually refers Asian and Indian profiles.
One guy makes insulting comments about referred members quite often.
A handful of people just cast their vote to go along with their posse leader without any thought being put into it.
It can be very entertaining...
By Andthisisme at 12,Aug,15 15:26 other posts of Andthisisme 
It cannot be denied that the sytem is not perfect and yes there certainly are some whack-a-doodles BUT there are other members who do try to be fair and whose votes are guided by admins explanatory posts and are evidence led. The more people who know about this forum and read the comments AND vote the better it could be.
By JustWill at 12,Aug,15 15:32 other posts of JustWill 
I totally agree with you, Andthisisme. There are a number of members who try very hard to be fair.

Others, sadly, do not.

The more people who check out the link to the Star Chamber on a regular basis--even if they can't vote yet--the better chance we have of keeping things honest.
By bella! at 12,Aug,15 19:33 other posts of bella! 
Please note how one member is publicly chastised for not voting to delete. Please tap on the image below so you're able to optimally view the image.



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Apparently the poster of the image, which is now removed, had second thoughts. My opinion of the poster and their image, by you posting a vote with the members additional comment only reflects your poor judgment as well as your inability to understand that members do not always share your opinion. And it was solely for that reason, you chastised the member and called him Old Blighty. Poor form on your part, it only makes you look foolish!
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Oops! The poster is being a bit slippery as he removed the image and added it again dated today.
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Since the poster has changed the category of the image to "friends only" and included a comment directed at me, I will close by saying this;


JohnS GET OVER YOURSELF AND STOP *YOUR* NONSENSE!


JohnS, you and your 60 or so friends enjoy the image.
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JohnS, rather than voting my comment down, why not post your thoughts. Was anything I said inaccurate or are you just being your old and miserable self?








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