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 | So with verified emails from two separate law enforcements, LT Bobulinski's very detailed on the record confirmation as to the validity of the emails and being personally involved with the business deals profiting the Biden family profiting from his VP influence while in office. Is he going to be held accountable? |
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Liberals are in their own bubble of egoism. Our country has never been a democracy. According to Socrates the only way to achieve democracy is if you educate every single citizen to their highest potential of critical thinking. So when they vote it is calculated correctly. In this age the left wing medias job is to invoke propaganda to embed socialism so that people are more vulnerable to state demands. The same thing that happened in Israel with lies to overthrow their democracy is the same thing in America. Cheating in the election is treason and the evidence is overwhelming.
Claims are not evidence.
I agree that the US has no democracy to speak of, because people like you can be so easily manipulated by propaganda.
So your solution is to just give up on democracy and just have a South Korean style, Trump family ruled dictatorship?
Did you like how Trump fell in love with Kim Jong-un?
Imagine how you would have reacted if Obama had said that. Treason?
About Kim Jong-un... who cares.. What difference is if he fell in love with Santa Clause.. He had the right idea..
Democracy is for what God had intended for us. To unite under him to form one perfect union. Just as the hebrew letters form together to form the Star of David, this is the same idea.. But you can't use ignorance, egoism or anything for selfish corruptness.
Your confusion is very predictable ... Your ignorant and its sad that because of you there will be no democracy. However, this is not your fault as many bad people are taught. So is because of you because of bad teachers? Yeah, you were taught from early age just like Palestinian children blow themselves up for bad people, you do this..
You would have cared when Obama said something like that, because right wingers were outraged that Obama even talked to any of America's enemies. And when your right wing media is outraged about something, so are you.
I think the existence of God is just as believable as the existence of Santa Clause, but you are probably aware of the Adam and Eve story. God didn't want them to eat the apple from the tree of knowledge. God didn't even want people to think for themselves, let alone start a democracy. Maybe Jesus could be described as pro-democracy, but I challenge you to find anything in the bible that shows democracy is for what God had intended for us.
Democrats have put forth the 'For the People Act'. It is clearly pro-democracy and anti-corruption. None of the republicans will support it, because it will limit their possibilities for taking dark money and it will limit cheating. You have a weird perception of democracy, if you agree with republicans on that.
You don't believe in God? then we can't discuss on this level.. all you are is materialism,, egoist and insignificant as to why we develop leadership, teaching, learning to give, sacrifice.... You are the worst of the worst.. That's why races hate each other..
I don't watch CNN or MSNBC, I get my information from independent news, data and science. I understand only believers can discuss on your level; the level of dogmas, but materialism and egoism are definitely not traits of socialist.
Those are by definition traits of the right wing. Capitalism is their god.
Believers are thought from childhood to believe anything they are told. I was thought to use investigation and logic from childhood. That's why my christian school was not able to convince me that god is real. A right winger talking about 'learning to give' is hilarious. Your ideology is that everyone just has to work to survive, and nothing is given for free. You don't even have sympathy for people, let alone generosity. If you believe god will judge us at some point, let this atheist tell you he will judge you to be lacking of christian values. You are just brainwashed by your for-profit-churches, taking money from right wingers.
You lost me on that statement as far as where you came up with that idea .
" Your ideology is that everyone just has to work to survive, and nothing is given for free."
Please explain this in detail as a atheist or as a earthling, why you say this.
And another thing, to say that Capitolist or whatever don't know generosity is bullshit. We just don't understand BUMS! If a familys home catches fire,volunteers go to fight the fire,raise money for them and sometimes help rebuild. around here the community comes together in times of crisis.
But at the same time there is always that bunch down on the dirt road that never work never do a damn thing but stand around with their hand out or the cops may as well have a substation on their back porch to cut response times to domestic disputes and shit. Those are the 1's that no,we stop being generous,and don't get in their way and let them sink if that is where they seem to want to go.
Ignorance is a form of narcissisms..When you are ignorant you appear to show nice words but in the end try to preach lies over truth...
Republicans are against the "act" because it will allow for a 1 sided government that only represents half the people.
As for the North korean thing,, would you rather Trump lobed a bomb over there and started a war?
I didn't see obama go visit at all. Michael maby had the balls to go but "she" didn't either.
Please explain how it would do that.
The 'For the People Act' deals with:
1.1 Voting rights
1.2 Election security
1.3 Campaign finance reform
1.4 Ethics
1.5 Findings in support of D.C. statehood
1.6 Gerrymandering
1.7 Number of Federal Election Commissioners
These are all improvements in democratic representation. If the republicans need to limit rules on democratic representation, they are probably NOT representing 'half the people'. Are you admitting your views are in the minority?
Presidents talking directly with their enemies can actually improve relations. I never said I am against that. I'm saying it has partisan approval. One side is against and the other side approves, depending on the side of the president.
"Obama’s comments in 2008 and 2009 about talking to strongmen “without preconditions,” and his efforts to work with both North Korea and Cuba’s communist governments, were greeted by conservatives with scorn. So it seemed odd to some on the right that Trump doing the same was being feted as a victory for American foreign policy."
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And remember Iran? Obama made a deal with them and included the rest of the world. Trump cancelled the deal and said he would make a better deal.
If he had done that, you would get no grief from me, but he never did.
Now I hope Biden does. Wouldn't you have preferred Trump had done it instead?
The trouble with democrats idea of voting rights is they don't want to make sure the person voting has the right to vote because they don't want voter ID,they want to abolish it alltogether.How can you claim voting rights and not even know who and who does not have the right to vote?
Election security? like how did ballots get put in a city dump,and why were they not dug out of there? It can be done,and is done if a dead body or evidence could be there to prove or disprove other crimes like murder.
and what the hell does DC state hood have to do with voting rights? NOTHING.
I don't know if there is anything about voter ID in the bill. If there is not, you don't have it now. So what's the reason for the republicans to not negotiate it in?
If there was truth to the claims you refer to, the republicans should have been able to win more lawsuits. So they're either lying or incompetent.
DC statehood is applicable to REPRESENTATION. People in DC don't have it. The only reason for republicans to deny them that representation is that they are mostly liberal.
Division: white vs black, straight vs gay, conservative vs liberals.
No unity: McConnell says he's '100 percent' focused on 'stopping' Biden's administration.
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Materialism: Well, they are Americans too.
The allegations of corruption against Benjamin Netanyahu?
The cases against him look substantial:
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This knee for equality shit,is just that,shit.
The minoritys do not want equality, they want superiority, and if you give more than the constitution already does,they will get it.
They wanted to make Mike Pence overturn the election results!
Taking a knee is a protest against the unfair treatment of black Americans.
You acknowledge that the police has become dangerous. They are now even a danger to pregnant women. At least she was breaking the law; speeding.
A young black man was killed by a cop, because he was looking suspicious,
by entering his own house, while carrying a sandwich.
You think it's demanding superiority if they don't want to be labeled suspicious
FOR JUST BEING BLACK?
It looks very similar, but one riot is for trying to overturn the election results
and the other is for protesting about cops killing black people.
Talking generally now, not about this thread. two sides are just shouting their opinions back and forth and louder and louder without any thought to where is there common ground.
The Republicans, as illustrated in this thread, seem to claim that 'God is on out side' and when any movement brings God into the argument that is a recipe for disaster. Just consider Islamist terrorists believe that God is on THEIR side.
In Northern Ireland the UK has had just the sort of shouting back and forth by two opposed factions since 1921., who seem more concerned with their 'principles and beliefs' than solving the problems of the ordinary people.
Unless both sides step back and ask 'What is good for the country and the average US citizen then the US is really f&^*d
Then there are their followers. Only a tiny percentage of people are actually capable of independent thought. I have asked people here many times to argument their case. The best I can expect is the latest headline from right wing propaganda, some straw man fallacy about the other side or some dogmatic views, that have been proven false for decades.
Find me some arguments that are at least somewhat verifiably consistent with reality
or even presented as 'something good for the country and the average US citizen',
and I will agree with you.
How would you handle the increasing gas prices? Add more tax and put us to walking? Or tap into resources of our own and prevent another depression?
Present us with some ideas? Perhaps we COULD have that discussion,but until the 1's that think they know what is best cough up something,those of us that struggle with life every day will continue to wonder and question.
In all of the states where voter fraud was alleged and recounts and audits were carried out there was not one verifiable case of voter fraud. Yet despite all of this evidence and the many failed law suits alleging voter fraud there are many US citizens who will still repeat the mantra that there was huge fraud and the election was stolen.
In not one of the lawsuits trumpeted by President Trump and his acolytes was any actual evidence of voter fraud offered. The legal representatives made all sorts of claims in the media but when in court where there would be a penalty for bearing false witness suddenly the evidence wasn't there.
Voter fraud is not an argument put forward based on any verifiable evidence whatsoever. Republican state officials testify to the fact that there was no voter fraud. ( Subsequently being hounded and threatened by people who believe in totally fictitious 'Steal'
So, where is the voter fraud other than in the imagination of a very sore loser?
The audit in Maricopa County in Arizona has been going on for an incredible length of time and yet no evidence has been found. We are now told that the data gathered has been sent to be stored in a secret location in Montana !!!
Surely if there has been fraud discovered this would have been shouted from the rooftops on every media outlet not secretly buried away in Montana !!
MOST of the cases didn't make it to the court room.
They should have let MOST of them in. NO fraud,ok dems look good,find fraud, republican's are vindicated and wrongs can be righted. The way it looked to me observing media sources, Trump was made out to be a sore looser,dems didn't help ANY to prove or disprove anything.Dems should be just as concerned as the repubs. But they are not.
So many of the allegations of voter fraud are essentially conspiracy theories - like Rosswell - for which there is no evidence. Had there been concrete evidence of voter fraud of course the Democrats should have been a party to any investigation.
President Trump saying ‘I couldn’t possibly have lost there must have been fraud’ is not evidence of anything and all the other allegations of fraud lack any evidential base.
No organisation or government could or indeed should waste time and money carrying out investigations into allegations for which there is no evidence.
As an aside the secretive way in which the Cyber Ninja audit it Maricopa County is being carried out, denying independent witnesses access to the process will itself lead to conspiracy theories. Who, except the Trump loyalists will believe anything that they claim to have found? Had they been open to observation by other that Republican and Trump loyalists they may have had a chance. Not now though.
Going forward to 2024 and let’s say a Republican candidate becomes President on a slim majority. They would rightly be President but what would there be to prevent the Democrats doing exactly what the Republican/Trump ployalists are doing now.? This can of worms opened after Trumps refusal to accept defeat could blight the US electoral process for the foreseeable future.
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If there are lines of more than half an hour in any county, election observers would be assigned to the local government to oversee the election process is improved for next election and report back to the state and the government. It would be made nationally transparent which counties are lacking and are not improving their election process enough.
“Anyone walk in and vote without proof of citizenship for example?”
No, I would make identification mandatory, to regain trust in the election process. However, ID should be easy to get and for free (funded through taxes).
“How would you handle the increasing gas prices?” I won’t! I would take away all subsidies to the fossil fuel industry and use it for expanding alternative energy, electrification, recycling and insulating houses. Fossil fuel prices are increasing, because they are getting scarce and they have no competition.
I would give the fossil fuel industry competition, to keep their products affordable, until we don’t need them anymore.
“Add more tax and put us to walking?” That’s fear mongering from the fossil fuel lobby. The government is now subsidizing industries that are killing natural resources and doesn’t tax massively profitable companies. Individual taxes are 41% and corporate taxes are 4.4% of the US federal tax revenue. Meanwhile the US allows corporations to exploit the people for maximum profits. That prevents people from developing themselves and from participating in the economy. It left the tax burden up to the citizens, who are more and more unable to pay for it.
I would shift back the tax burden from people to profits. That will return the national debt from its unsustainable direction.
“Or tap into resources of our own and prevent another depression?” Your resources are depleting. Extracting the remainder is polluting your natural resources. Redesigning the economy is a massive undertaking, but it will provide jobs for millions of people and it prevents the US from falling behind the rest of the world.
The US has never solved its depressions. Your economy has been on life support
for decades. Letting industry gut the natural resources of the world to enrich a few narcissists is proving to be destructive.
I would restore democracy by eliminating direct funding from business and rich people. Politicians and campaigns should be funded through taxation, not through corruption. Money is not speech! I would take back power from the rich narcissists and return representation to the people.
The elections have been corrupted in many ways, but I don't think they ever created false votes ('find them'), made real votes disappear or counted the votes incorrectly. However, these were all things that Trump actively tried to accomplish.
Democrats didn't help boost confidence in elections either, because they interfered with their primaries or at least created the impression of interference. The app used by the Iowa caucus was reported to 'make errors' when percentages were send to the main computer. They were reported to be consistently in favor of one candidate over another. It was also found that the funding for development of the app had ties with the specific candidate who benefited from the errors. It also doesn't boast confidence when the app makers name is 'Shadow Inc.'. Then the candidate and his supporters didn't want to cooperate with the investigation. I don't know if they ever did a thorough investigation, but I haven't seen any lawsuits for it. A problem might be that US law doesn't require the same transparency and fairness for primaries. It actually allows for a lot of tampering that it doesn't allow for general elections. However, they are just as important, because the Democrat's establishment might have assured their preferred candidate for president.
Perhaps in 2022 we can get some house and senate seats back and then start holding people accountable. I think it would be great for the republicans to impeach biden .May not do much good but it would be great pay back for all the time they took away from Trump that his admin could have been using to better the country.
Besides,I bet Hunter biden has a new job,running the russian pipeline!
It can't be his corruption with his son, unless you can prove it's still going on.
Sircums, there is no real gain in trying to reason with liberals,but there is NO hope if you don't try to do something to alleviate the problem of STUPID ideas for running the country.IF we Americans sit back and DO nothing,SAY nothing,then we can expect NOTHING>
Plato's ideal society was a tribal society ruled by 'perfect leaders' with all walks of life fixed. Plato thus argued, as it were, for a group of dictatorial leaders and not for an actual democracy. It's plausible to assume Socrates thought the same.
So that's actually the type of government China claimed to be, just before
Xi Jinping took all power for himself.
Is it dealing with morality or a political system?
So what numbered fake with photochopped images is this one. Nobody likes you here.. Don't you have anything better to do trying to impress people that you disgust? Why not just die already..
I don’t try to impress. That’s for insecure filthy little Jews. And I’ll go when the good Lord calls me. Not when an idiot opens his mouth. Too bad when they circumcised you they threw out the good part and left a PRICK.
Just like a flaming hemmerroid.. no matter how many you remove.. you just can't get rid of them.. I see a festering cunt has returned to fester up
Obama ,right or wrong, worked for the people and this country. What exactly did the Clown do for you? Prescribe bleach to get rid off COVID? What’s more, who cares about Biden’s son? When did he get elected to office. One last thing, state for the record what made Biden a racist?
IN OTHER WORDS,Rockoutwithmycockout you are full of shit
He has been bankrupt six times, he never pays the money he owes and suspicious banks still kept lending him billions of dollars. And you think he's clean as a whistle?
As we speak, he's screwing over people who once donated money for his campaigns, for more money than they were willing to donate. And he's using that money for purposes that are not legal to use it for. These are only a few examples.
I'm sure his prosecutors his shelves full of evidence on his transgressions.
Why do you think all people around him go to jail?
I'm sure you know at least some of this, so you're just being partisan.