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that would drive people up the friggen wall. but you know what?,of all the scandals Trump has been blamed for ,none have involved little boys. so um.
the fact that other politicians and you take it seriously is humiliating.
You have one point, none of Trump's scandals involve little boys,
little girls, SURE.
Pope Francis did better than most to fight against that sexual abuse in the Church.
He was hated by your side. Was that one of the reasons?
The third problem is that trump should show some respect for the largest branch of Christianity, especially because he declares religious. Of course, he's not religious. He's bullshitting. Christianity is the opposite of Trump's values.
The fourth problem is that he's doing that to test waters. He thinks "what else can I do in order to show that I'm the greatest person on earth AND in order that my minions adhere to me even more strongly?" He posts himself as a pope, he gets no reaction from the magas (in fact he's been praised and hailed), so he has just managed to push the boundary a bit further.
With MAGA it's easy, there is no limit to the depravity they'll accept.
But the liberal media is accepting more and more too. That's dangerous.
why the hell can't you just laugh at what most take as a joke and go on with your lives instead of inserting meaningless meaning into it?
i don't want any president to be a stuck up,dried up, spineless wimp.
i want them to have a sense of humor,and some common sense.
I expect him to protect THE CONSTITUTION, like all presidents before him.
What right do you think you have, that I think Trump shouldn't have?
You only want a sense of humor for YOUR presidents, if a Democrat said anything like that, you would impeach him. Remember your side's outrage about Obama wearing a tan suit?
I repeat; it's not his joke, it's that senators took it seriously.
Still, it's small potatoes. At this very moment, they are trying hard to implement loopholes to give Trump a third term. That's more serious.
THAT ALSO STARTED WITH A JOKE.
The problem is that Trump jokes a lot about FUCKING EVIL THINGS,
and we know he ain't joking. He's just preparing YOU for supporting it.
Newly elected Pope Leo XIV spent years amplifying criticism of President Trump’s policies on social media — with the Catholic Church’s first American leader taking particular aim at the Republican’s hard-line immigration stance.
Don't you love that?
In April, when Trump met with El Salvador President Nayib Bukele to discuss using a prison where alleged human rights abuses took place to jail suspected gang members flown from the United States, the new pope reposted a comment that included:
"Do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed?"
Incredible, isn't it?
What will your criminal cry baby do?
As for the second baby, he said.
"JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for
others."
How is the possible?
Will you and your maga mob allow that to on?
You gotta roll up your sleeves and go punch his face hard for having the audacity talk about Christianity in ways that aren't approved by trump?
Trump said, through his faith office, that the poor are poor because they're sinners and the rich are rich because they're god-fearing. Trump's Christianity is the opposite of the newly elected Pope's.
Unacceptable, ain't it?
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Hey phart, I was right. Your fellow assholes are protesting that the new pope doesn't seem to like licking your god's ass and eating his feces (a.k.a. shit):
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Ha ha
This is great.
Europeans have an aversion to fascists. They're not buying their products. Excellent.
Tesla sales were down 67% in Denmark, 74% in the Netherlands and 33% in Portugal, according to data from trade groups in each of those countries. Sales were also down 81% in Sweden, and 59% in France, according to Reuters.
we don't need much shit from europe either.
Most people just need to get to work and back.
They cannot afford a car that chugs 10 MPG.
They understand that when it's Nike, Bud Light, Disney or Target, when they are outraged over something they consider 'woke', but they will never understand it
when the other side does it over destroying democracy and human rights violations.
And how crazy is it that the US congress passed Anti-BDS Laws?
It's legal to boycott American products, but illegal to ban products made in Israel or
on land that Israel illegally occupies. There is no more clear violation of free speech.
If my government tried to do that, I would join the mob to burn them down.
check this out
if you enforce the border,people stop trying to cross over,thus making our country safer.what a concept.
and then human trafficking them to a concentration camp in a dictatorship.
You are the criminals, and you turned America into a criminal regime.
That's not making your country safer. When the law is gone, it's gone FOR YOU TOO.
ICE is literally arresting people AFTER they showed proof that they are legal immigrants
or even citizens of the US. They are now Trump's Gestapo.
Sure, keep watching 'News'Max. Keep lying to yourself, by looking away.
Hitler had the same propaganda outlet, defending his holocaust.
Every Nazi who survived WWII either left Germany or felt guilt the rest of their lives.
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there is just a couple examples of issues with "documents".
are they real? who knows. i could get a fake id and it say i was elon musk but it wouldn't take long for a government official to spot a issue with my documentation.
You have provided no evidence of any of them deserving life imprisonment
in a El Salvador concentration camp. Baseless allegations, nothing more.
Everyone has constitutional rights to due process.
There is NO justification for a country breaking the law,
even when it's related to people breaking the law.
You have turned your country into a shit-hole country.
I'm not saying trump WILL destroy America, because he already has.
Why did Republicans ever call themselves the "Party of Law and Order"?
They're the "Party of Crime, Corruption and Anti-Democracy" now.
how can you rationalize that?
there is nothing giving the illegals any more rights than natural born citizens,nor is there anything written giving them the rights to our assistance programs. these things are meant for citizens unless it is a liberal bunch then they will drive past a homeless veteran to give goods and services to a illegal, the bastards.
we have a issue with gangs coming into the us, robbing peoples homes and fleeing back to their shit hole countries,impossiable to catch.
you don't seem to have any concept of law and it's enforcement.
prison is not supposed to be fun, hell if it was, honest people would want to go there.
Many of them have green cards or had gotten asylum.
You keep saying shit that should be proven in court first.
It's because of YOUR RIGHTS, that they should have rights.
What right will you lose, if they get due process? NOTHING!!!
If Joe Rogan understands this, it's very clear, because he's a dumb-ass.
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That's what happens when you don't care about people's rights.
You support taking away people's rights, making everything like that worse.
When YOU don't care about other people rights, that's the result you get.
When you don't care about the rights of some people, EVERYONE LOSES.
Those are the basic principles your founding fathers based your country on.
When you don't understand that, they should put YOU trough the naturalization process, because you're UN-American.
They are innocent American citizens, until you prove they are not.
Do you understand anything about how the law works?
How would you like to be arrested for murder, and you're just executed?
The police says they found this dead person near your house, so you're guilty.
No lawyer, no judge, they just say you did it, and put you on the electric chair.
That's what you support.
By law, countries have a responsibility to accept real refugees, even if they entered a country illegally. That's because some people are fleeing for their lives. That always takes preference over laws on border security. That's why everyone has a RIGHT to be heard by a court of law.
Additionally, ICE has been caught kidnapping many people who DID show them their PAPERS. They WERE legally living and working in your country, but they got human trafficked to a concentration camp in the OG Banana Republic ANYWAY. That's a crime, committed by your government. Since your government is now committing many crimes, that's why they don't want any judges involved.
You're the one not thinking this thru. You're the one supporting crimes, I'm not.
I'm perfectly fine with deporting illegals, ones a judge determines them to be an illegal, and not a real refugee. EVERYONE has rights, according to your Constitution. Those rights don't fall away when someone breaks the law.
You don't need to be a citizen of the US, to be protected against a fascist who wants to lock you away for the rest of your life, no matter what laws you broke.
Trump is literally ignoring a 9/0 Supreme Court judgement.
How is that not cause for his immediate removal from office?
If Biden had done that, you wanted him executed the same day.
send them out if they are illegal.
of course they are running for their lives, they didnt have shit at home so they came here to get shit and have a better life. not many are actually targets of a drug cartel or other threat of violence.
Now you think this will take ages? Don't act like you're stupid.
Do you know how long a murder trail lasts?
Let's skip that, when you're accused of it. Let's assume you're just lying.
"send them out if they are illegal"
How many times do I need to repeat that they are locked up in a prison camp, known for beating people to death, in a Banana Republic?
The record shows that at least 90% of them have committed NO CRIMES. Some of them are indeed illegal, but lots of them HAD LEGAL STATUS.
They are locking up people for LIFE over there, and you keep defending that. That's worse than what you would get for one or two murders. Do you think that's fitting punishment for just being in your country without permission?
You cannot make me understand that, because I am a decent human being.
You obviously are NOT.
And just because Biden looked the other way and gave them app does not mean legal.
Stay in YOUR lane cunt-
He didn't lock up LEGAL immigrants in a concentration camp for life.
If you used your brain, I wouldn't need to get out of my lane.
If you were not so clearly wrong all the time, we could actually have a discussion on what decisions would improve our lives. Instead you are defending EVIL, because you're told that the other side wants to replace you with brown people.
Why don't you recognize the most transparent lies in history, that have been used to trick people, to support evil for thousands of years?
"Them people want hurt you! We hurt them first, GRUNT!!"
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cat worships the soil obama spat on, did she miss this back when it happened?
However, you're probably including everyone who was apprehended on the border.
I'm not complaining when you put them back on the other side of it immediately, IF you also provide them with options to request asylum legally, which Democrats have been fighting for, for decades, and was denied and crushed by Republicans for decades.
Trump isn't just apprehending people on the border, he is letting ICE kidnap LEGAL, undocumented and ILLEGAL immigrants alike, who have been in your country working and paying taxes for often many years, and transporting them to a prison camp in the worst dictatorship in South America. He's braking the law and refusing to listen to judges and even the Supreme Court.
Obama didn't do any of that. You're spouting record levels of False Equivalence.
but you don't have to be this clear about it.
Maybe the cunt should pay attention to what the migrants are doing to his country... rapes, robberies, etc are all on the rise..
No matter what the stats tell you that are manipulated
That's not the issue here. Trump is putting people in a El Salvador prison camp, who were LEGALLY living in your country and did NOT BREAK THE LAW.
Those prisons are FUCKING HORRIBLE and they are LOCKED UP FOR LIFE.
You wouldn't even do that to a murderer. And these people are INNOCENT!
Your horrible regime is making up bullshit about MS13 tattoos.
Even if it was true, but it's not, is a tattoo now a life sentence crime?
By the way, your crime is NOT on the rise, it's been lowering for years.
The only crime that is going up is mass murder with AR-13s.
And that's your own stupid people, mostly right-wing lunatics.
FUCK YOU LEOPOLDIJ
this is damn good,
1 minute in ,this man explains how stupid tampon tim really is.
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Failed to forward deploy with his unit and thinks men need tampons.
A fucking idiot
i guess he wants the states welfare program to help pay for these to?
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But you need to believe them, because you cannot think of anything else.
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We talked about these two allegations before, and you are ignoring everything.
I even showed you the law about those tampons, proving them liars.
Calling Walz a coward is bullshit. His function wouldn't have put him in any danger,
if he went to war. Officers like that are sitting behind a desk. There wasn't any fear associated with him leaving the military and he didn't put anyone in danger by leaving.
When Trump dodged the Vietnam War draft, with his bone spurs note, someone very likely died in his place.
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The issue is that the neo-nazi party AfD was classified by the German intelligence service as an extremist organization. Which is correct. Nazis are extremists and simply wish to kill anyone who doesn't agree with totalitarianism.
Any democratic country would agree with the decision. Germany simply wishes to keep an eye to AfD terrorists.
However, trump's administration were quick to criticize Germany's decision and said that they want AfD to be given the equal participation in society.
First of all, the US should mind its own business.
Second, Germany is simply calling the Nazis Nazis. The US has agreed with this continuously from 1940 to 2025. And now, the US makes a 180° turn and says:
"We made a mistake that we fought against the Nazis 80 years ago. They're good guys. We're going to take their side now and protect them in any way we can everywhere in the world."
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democracy is based on several ideas ,1 of which is free speech.
just because you don't agree with a group,doesn't mean you can call them terrorist.no more than our government could label Christians as terrorist.
Trump had a dinner with Kanye West and white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
There is no reason to do that, besides liking them.
OMG, Trump really believed that Kilmar Бbrego Garcнa literally had MS13 tattooed on his knuckles. That text "M", "S", "1", "3" was written there by someone on his PC, to claim that the tattoos on his fingers mean "M", "S", "1" and "3". That is not a contested story, but the incredible dumb-ass didn't know and tries to double down on his ignorance.
He is so incredibly DUMB
By the way, those tattoos mean "Smoke weed to get high, love God till you die!".
It has no relation to MS-13.
It's obvious that the letters are computer generated.
But I wouldn't be so quick as to assert that trump believes that. Trump’s major achievement is that he can say whatever, any lie, and then it becomes "truth" for the idiots who support him (like phart). Example: "immigrants are eating cats and dogs" was a lie. When he, or rather vance, was confronted with evidence, vance admitted it was a lie. And said the inimitable phrase: "So what? If I have to lie in order to benefit the true Americans, I will." (Not exact quote, but something of this sort. )
Conclusion: it's irrelevant whether the ms13 was actually generated by a computer or was real. So long as trump says it's real it becomes real for all the morons who cheer him (like phart) for they have no way to exercise their thinking faculties and merely rely on whatever shirty declarations their supreme leader-god utters. For the supreme leader-god such declarations are as easy to expel as a fart.
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Correction: Shitty not shirty.
If he was lying about it, he's even a worse gaslighter than I thought.
In any case, either he's fucking dumb or fucking depraved,
there is no alternative explanation for this conduct.
You forget the "love God till you die!" part. NOW you don't care?
Wasn't religion a measure for morality, according to you?
In any case, not a gang member. He didn't do anything criminal that warranted
taking his legal status away, and he wasn't going to either.
You're only grasping at straws to justify your own criminal behavior.
Putting people like him in that death camp in El Salvador is EVIL!!!
However, this depravity record is already broken, because ICE is now rounding up
FOUR YEAR OLDS WITH STAGE-4 CANCER.
I really don't understand why people do that to themselves.
Maybe life is too difficult for them if them, if they need to think for themselves.
Trump is not a career politician. i felt we had enough of those already in the office before. Trump is not a lawyer, alot of our previous presidents were. another bad thing. lawyers are crooks right out of the box.
those that think the government should do all their thinking for them and mandate every motion they take are the 1's that are a real problem.
thinking outside the box is what got us out of the stone age.
we would still be in the stone age if liberals were in control because we would be eating weeds and drinking creek water all the time and have no goals or objectives or frankly anything to do or live for.
by parroting those nonsense arguments.
"Trump is not a career politician"
Trump is a career CONMAN!
Being a politician is the first career he ever made any real money from, because he's the most corrupt politician ever.
"Trump is not a lawyer."
Many lawyers are honest people who fight for the rights of normal Americans, not because they are criminals who need a lawyer, but to defend them against criminals and conmen, like Trump. By the way, Kamala was a prosecutor, which you should like, because she sent criminals to jail.
"government should do all their thinking for them and mandate every motion they take" THAT'S YOU! You just trust your side to do all the thinking for you. You defend everything they do, even if it contradicts whatever you clearly supported before. It's MAGA that takes people's freedom over their own lives away, not Democrats. That's another lie they taught you to believe.
"thinking outside the box is what got us out of the stone age."
They are COMMITTING CRIMES, that's not "thinking outside the box".
"we would still be in the stone age if liberals were in control"
That's the worst nonsense of your whole comment. Conservatives have done nothing besides frustrating progress and science, in the whole of human history. It has been liberal scientists and human rights defenders who gave us civilization.
Your side is now literally breaking down science, modern medicine and legal safeguards for normal people, which are the highest accomplishments of civilization.
You might think it is the selfish endeavors of wealthy people, that pulled us out of the stone age, but humanity has had that for thousands of years.
there are sick people out there leo, rather you want to admit it or if you are 1 of them, they are out there.
in some countrys eating dogs and cats is normal. i think it is in china that men beat a dog while it is alive to prompt internal bleeding to tenderize the meat while the heart is circulating the blood.sickning. . oh here is a link about a little youngan seeing their dog strung up and cooked into a stew.
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so why would the immigrant leave that 1 habit behind when it comes here? when will you leo and others face up to the fact that not all immigrants are good people? some are sick freaks.
Again, the issue is: trump lied or bullshitted when he said that immigrants in ohio are eating cats and dogs and pets.
The issue is NOT whether some people do that in the world. They do.
You are trying to escape because you can't bring yourself to admit that your god lied.
Trump is doing what he said he would do,what we voted for him . how many others run for office and do what they say they will do?
Again, the issue is: trump lied or bullshitted when he said that immigrants in ohio are eating cats and dogs and pets.
The issue is NOT whether some people do that in the world. They do.
You are trying to escape because you can't bring yourself to admit that your god lied.
show me some thing like police reports or something of substance that show immigrants in ohio didn't.
your sources will not be any more reliable than Trumps.
No matter what bullshit or lies your god says you will believe it
I rest my case.
after he CLEARLY LIES, is the problem.
Trump didn't provide any evidence. The video's that go shared
were ALL immediately debunked. That is evidence of him lying,
but to you that's never enough.
Your first instinct is to believe EVERYTHING he says,
after he has been proven to lie thousands of times over.
You have shown that you have zero critical thinking brain cells.
Fool me once shame on you, fool me thousands of times: MAGA!
democrats making a killin up thar in washington
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1 houthi is to many houthis
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It's a very important principle. Can you tell me what I'm referring to?
What do we need to do to prepare for that?"
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not preparing to follow the USA in its crash.
A "strong" leader, like trump, whose strength is exhibited by his use of foul language over social media is going to bring the USA in its crash. But the real problem is that the whole world will be affected.
By the way, did you see how all the fascistoids of Europe (Orban, Meloni, LePen, etc) and beyond are cheering for trump and are rejoicing in the possibility that they might realize their totalitarian dreams?
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i posted a couple links the other day, apparently no one read them. the idea is working,just not as fast as it should.
it is bringing people to the table, it will improve our exports because countries will stop penalizing their citizens for buying our products. didn't you read what i posted about canada dairy products? they can't import but a small amount of our stuff and then it all gets hit with huge tarrifs whereas we only tarrif about 40% or less if we go over the quouta.
First, what products do we make that other countries want except for agriculture? Second, we consume almost 80% of products wholy or partially made outside of the USA. How does putting a tax paid by Americans on those products going to a) help trade and b) help keep or lower the prices of goods in this country?
The Clown ran on and was elected on the promise to "curb the Biden inflation. Show me how he's doing that NOW, not 5 yrs down the road. Why are his policies making our economy flirt with a 1929 style depression? Where are we better off than January 19, 2025?
What will it take for you and all the other Clown defenders to realize he doesn't know what he's doing?
And, finally, remember when you and Tecsan and all the other MAGA/Republicans would say Biden's poll numbers were really bad and no one wanted him? Well, guess what. The Clown's numbers are the worst of any president, barr none.
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Are these the numbers you wanted?
student loans being sent to collection agencys, way past due for that to happen.
criminals being removed from the country, way past time for that to happen.
The problems you are concerned about are real. Many people agree with you, but, he’s destroying the economy, making our country a pariah among nations, and causing untold misery. And for what? So a septuagenarian can say his cojones are bigger (they are not)?
My suggestion to you is for you to start looking at what’s more important for this country to go forward.
They see he is destroying a lot, and all you can say is that is a good sign.
It is only a good sign for people who want to destroy your country.
Why do you want to destroy your country? Is that MAGA?
You voted in a president who acts like a dictator.
Have you seen any dictatorship where you would like to live?
Trump is the best friend to Putin. Would you like to live in Russia?
Do you understand why East German people were so happy when the Berlin wall was toppled over? You want to build such a wall around you.
Democrats actually care about grocery prices and providing for their kids (too).
You seem to not care to live in a dictatorship, as long as it pisses off democrats.
Is there still a part of you that cares about FREEDOM? At all?
Or is hurting "the others" the only thing you still care about?
Fake news.
Radical left news channels.
Chinese controlled media.
Anti-american propaganda.
I rest my case.
Is that your new strategy or did you have a lobotomy?
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Look inwards and find the truth.
AS A LATE NIGHT COMEDY SHOW HOST?
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If you cannot address HIS arguments, but you can only respond with a red herring,
don't bother.
What is the Red Herring Fallacy?
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brains,balls and stomachs, meaning they eat,fuck and figure out how to abuse the system.
(except brains, that of course doesn't fit Republicans more)
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"democrat party is dead" he said
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This is the Financial Times recognizing Trump as a dictator:
"Once Trump has most law firms, universities, news organisations and private companies under his thumb, it will become almost impossible for any form of opposition to gain traction. His weaponised Department of Justice can arrest protesters and there will be fewer lawyers to defend them. University research and academic discussion of ideas that run counter to the Trump ideology will be threatened. Private companies will not object as the rule of law collapses. This is not some innovative new strategy — it is the global playbook for democratically elected leaders who want to stay in power forever."
if you borrowed money from your neighbors, the tax payers ,to pay for your schooling, pay it back
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"The maximum tariff rates for multiple U.S. dairy products exported to Canada do approach or exceed the 250%-270% range. For example, as of Jan. 1, the maximum Canadian import tariff was 245.5% for cheese and curd, 298.5% for butter, and 241% for liquid milk.
However, Trump failed to mention that these large tariffs are levied only if U.S. dairy exports exceed a predetermined quota."
'Nicholson told us that the Canadian government implemented import quotas to increase the competitiveness of the nation’s domestic dairy industry through a supply management system. By limiting dairy imports through quotas, the Canadian government aids domestic producers by increasing minimum dairy prices. Kirsten Hillman, the Canadian ambassador to the U.S., told CBS News on March 9 that the quotas seek to “protect our farmers and families.”
in other words government price gouging.
and look at the tarrif numbers for dairy coming into the us,
it is subject to over-quota tariffs of about 24%, or up to 39%.
see the unfair difference.
so in other words, canada limits it's consumers ability to purchase American products by limiting the amount imported to the country and would punish it's consumers with the high tariffs if people wanted to buy them. so much for free trade when you are limited as to how much you can get.
wow, just 1 act passed in government has spent a lot of money. nearly a billion just in infrastructure.
google result,
As of January 22, 2024, federal agencies had committed approximately $940 million in funding to the U.S. territories through the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law (BIL). This translates to roughly $262 per person living in the territories. The Office of Insular Affairs (OIA) provides discretionary funding to these territories, including American Samoa, Guam, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, and the U.S. Virgin Islands. Additionally, discretionary funding is also provided to the freely associated states of the Federated States of Micronesia and the Republic of the Marshall Islands.
look at these numbers,
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$4,500,000,000.00
perhaps Elon is looking in the wrong places to save money.
giving these places independence would free up alot of funding that could house homeless veterans and feed many hungry people here in the US.
for whatever reason google does not give me any results to help when i ask what is gained by the citizens of the 50 states from keeping up these territorys.
google ai result
"It's difficult to pinpoint an exact number of employees specifically working in high-security prisons in the US. However, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) reports 387,500 Bailiffs, Correctional Officers, and Jailers were employed in 2023. This includes all levels of security, but a large portion would be working in prisons, including high-security ones. Within this group, 16,700 are specifically bailiffs and 370,900 are correctional officers and jailers. Additionally, within the Federal Bureau of Prisons, there are over 34,000 correctional officers and staff."
so if we were to send off all the major league felons, at the most a half million folks might need to transfer to another job.
you know,in typeing that i just came up with a great idea, use decommissioned cruise ships as prison ships. they already have hospitals ,swimming pools and separate rooms, you could just drive it out about 100 miles off the coast, and let who ever gives the cheapest price keep it in service. where would a inmate go if they tried to escape>? swim a 100 miles to shore>?
it is safer to err on the side of safety for the American people than on the side of a illegal alien.
Nazi Germany would have welcomed you with open arms and a tattoo pen to label your wrist.
but you still did not answer my question.
how else could you confirm where someone is from>? dna test?
ukrainians and russians look the same,speak the same language. so if 1 or the other comes here by swimming over the border, and you want to send them back, of course they don't want to go, so they will lie thru their teeth to stay.
if you were kidnapped today,and shuttled to mexico and dumped on the street wearing a sheet and flip flops, you might be able to quoute the constitution word for word but so can millions of other people all over the world,so how would you confirm you are from florida>? your skin and eyes would help eliminate japan as a home country and so on.
criminals that are here illegally,don't have any rights. so why the concern?rights apply to citizens.
they came in in droves during the night and you want to send the out 2 a day for the next 70000 years.in other words,you essentially support criminal illegals being here,because they would have to eat,sleep and somewhere.and if we put them in a place where they could work while waiting and recoup their cost to the system you would get pissed off about that.
Putting them in a place where they could work is called SLAVERY. There goes that pesky Constitution again.
I think we can expect a major change in policy
from the Trump administration today.
This can't go on and even he knows it. In the last six months
it is down 10.44% and that matters… a lot.
As of right now it is down 744 points.
2.79% in the last six months. We always come along for the American ride because our economies are so intertwined.
Canadian travel to the US is down so much the Canadian airlines are rescheduling flights from the US to places lake the Caribbean, Mexico, South America, and Europe for the summer vacation months.
Day trips to the US are down substantially as well. Canadians are genuinely concerned about their personal safety in the US. That is not unreasonable considering the current situation in the US regarding people from other countries.
We don't want an unscheduled side trip to El Salvador!
Meanwhile, Trump is defunding universities for not doing what he wants, which is return to
a time when black people had no chance to achieve anything, just because of the color of their skin.
Meanwhile, Trump is threatening Amazon with pulling government contracts, if they don't ban books he doesn't like.
Trump is literally ripping up the first amendment, but right-wingers are crying about being called stupid, racist or sexist, when they are saying stupid, racist, sexist bullshit 24/7.
if you say something that offends me, and i tried to say something in return and you duct taped my mouth shut, that would be violating my free speech.
what you and others don't understand is Trump is dealing with these colleges and universities that are promoting a anti American agenda. because you have no concept of patriotism or respect for your country. you think those concepts are outdated. This is America, and these colleges are promoting hate speech, hatred of Americans, and even going as far as pushing Islamist beliefs, hatred of Jews,etc.
the GOVERNMENT, not other people. And you're not free to say anything you want,
because other people have 1st amendment protection, from your defamation, discrimination, threats, fighting words (although rarely applied), obscenity (hard to define), doxing, false advertising / fraud and cyberbullying.
The government is NOT protected against the speech of people. It only works ONE WAY.
You can say whatever you want about the government or the country and they are NOT allowed to punish you for it. If they do, than THAT is the crime.
Taping your mouth shut is assault, you're already protected against that. Other than using force, people have all the right not to listen to you or to prevent you from speaking in a private setting. You don't have a right to use a private platform. Your right to speak your mind is only applicable to PUBLIC platforms. That's where you have free speech, that can only be limited if you break the law.
How are they promoting an anti-American agenda and what limits of free speech
are they crossing? They are pointing out that the US is supporting a genocide,
that's your side being anti-American. Trump is EXTORTING publishers to ban books.
That's not just anti-American, that's criminal.
The rest of what you're saying is straw-manning. It's not hatred of America or Jews,
it's condemning war crimes and fascism. Trump is deporting people for legitimate protected speech. Attacking that is anti-American.
It's very simple; if your government considers someone's speech law-breaking,
they should indict the person and a judge will decide if the speech is law-breaking.
The methods Trump is using is authoritarianism, and 100% against the first amendment.
He doesn't use the legal route, because he knows he would lose.
By the way, the American government can ONLY sue a citizen over speech in very limited circumstances, and it must meet strict legal standards because of the First Amendment
of the U.S. Constitution, which strongly protects free speech.
Do you even care about your First Amendment and laws, or am I wasting my time?
google,
Yes, freedom of speech does have limits. While the First Amendment protects most forms of speech, it does not protect all speech, and certain categories of speech are excluded from constitutional protection, according to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. These limits include speech that incites violence, constitutes true threats, or involves unlawful conduct.
Here's a more detailed look at the limitations:
1. Incitement to Violence: Speech that incites imminent lawless action is not protected, according to the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. This means speech that promotes or encourages immediate violent or unlawful actions is not protected by the First Amendment.
2. True Threats: Statements that communicate a serious intent to commit unlawful violence are not protected. This includes threats that put a person in reasonable fear of harm.
3. Defamation: False statements that damage a person's reputation are not protected, according to Super Lawyers. This includes libel (written defamation) and slander (spoken defamation).
4. Obscenity: Speech that is obscene is also not protected. However, the definition of obscenity can be complex and has been subject to legal interpretation.
5. Child Pornography: Speech that depicts child sexual abuse is not protected.
6. Fighting Words: Words that are likely to incite immediate violence or a breach of peace are not protected.
7. Time, Place, and Manner Restrictions: The government can impose reasonable restrictions on the time, place, and manner of speech, as long as these restrictions are content-neutral and leave open ample alternative channels for communication, according to the National Constitution Center.
8. Government-Sponsored Speech: The government can restrict speech when it is acting as a subsidizer or speaker, employer, or when it controls education or regulates the mail, airwaves, legal bar, military, prisons, and immigration, according to Wikipedia.
9. Private Entities: Private entities, such as employers or social media companies, can also impose restrictions on speech within their own domains.
It's important to remember that the limits on free speech are not absolute and are subject to legal interpretation. The specific details of what is and is not protected can be complex and may vary depending on the context, according to Quora.
as you say, because he's the representative of the government now, not a person.
How would you have liked it if Biden had people arrested for harming his reputation?
Maybe with that example you understand how dumb your idea is.
You lack the basic understanding about the First Amendment.
It protects PEOPLE from the GOVERNMENT,
NOT the GOVERNMENT from the PEOPLE.
"Death to the Jews" is indeed hate speech, because it is a "protected group".
"Death to the Americans" is NOT hate speech, because you are not a "protected group". Discrimination is about exclusion. You're ALL Americans.
It could very well be considered a THREAT, but NOT discrimination.
You don't understand discrimination laws either.
You can copy-paste facts to me, but YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THOSE FACTS.
There is NOTHING in the points you posted that contradicts what I said.
You cannot deny the right to protest to a group, when individuals are using hate speech, you can only sue the individuals for that hate speech.
There are laws that allow the government to assign other locations for protests,
but those are strictly limited. And they are banning protests all together.
In any case, Trump is not allowed to EXTORT publishers to ban books.
Those books he's banning do NOT contain ANY discrimination or threats or any other limitation to free speech, they just criticize him and your politics. That's the definition
of protected speech, and what Trump does is a crime against the First Amendment,
BY DEFINITION.
Deporting LEGAL immigrants for ANYTHING, without due process is also a CRIME.
A LEGAL immigrant doesn't turn into an illegal, when he has a "MOM" tattoo.
Do not lie again that you're only deporting ILLEGALS, because you're CLEARLY NOT.
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"The Salvadoran entered the United States illegally around 2011. In 2019, immigration officials put him into deportation proceedings after he was arrested in a Home Depot parking lot, where his attorneys say he was looking for work as a day laborer."
he entered the US illegally in 2011, no reason for him to be here
Americans are not a protected group? you are the 1 that says we have rights, but now we don't?
That would be the stupidest loophole to completely destroy the First Amendment ever. What would be left of it, if a politician could just say "they offended me",
and then use the power of the government to crack down on a citizen.
You really do not understand what your founding fathers intended.
“ what you and others don't understand is Trump is dealing with these colleges and universities that are promoting a anti American agenda.‘
What anti-American agenda? Give us one example.
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is it not anti American to promote violence and hatred towards jews? we have religious freedom in this country.
Right, Phart, that says it all. How could I have been so blind.
Listen, anyone has the right to stand on an orange crate in a public street corner and say what they want to say as long as itylegal. That bit of news is called the first amendment to the Constitution. What's more, a private university is a BUSINESS even if it is a non-profit. They, not the Clown, are the ones that say how they run their business.
were screaming from the rooftops: "Obama will tear up the constitution!",
"He'll never leave!", "He'll declare himself king!!".
For Trump: Check, check, and check.
Deathly silence from those Republicans and Tea baggers now.
You lot are all telling on yourself.
oil is now 59.94 and gas is 1.99 a gallon wholesale at the moment. that means next month, our fuels should be noticeably less at the pump. which means cost of transport of goods will be cheaper, family's can afford to go on vacations, and etc. our storm damaged mountain regions will benefit because tourism will become affordable again.
all good for the little man. shucks, it will for sure help me on my planned road trip in a few months.
There is no economic rule linking your chaos with lower prices for oil and gas.
Sometimes prices go up, sometimes prices go down. Trump didn't do this.
What he did do is just cause a global stock market crash, due to a trade war.
Those trade wars will make everything more expensive for those families.
People will lose their jobs. Even if some production is coming back to the US,
that will take YEARS. Meanwhile, your economy is going down the drain,
because other countries will trade less with the US. International trade is based
on trust, for a big part, and no one can trust your country now.
eliminate the tariffs, free trade.
Do you understand CAUSE AND EFFECT?
on all your goods. If that lowers some prices, like when demand drops for certain products, that will be temporary. The producers will sell less product, so they will lower their production and raise their prices to make the same profits. They will also need to fire employees, because they don't need all of them, when they produce less.
They cannot make their factories smaller, to reduce non-personnel operating costs,
so their margins will become smaller. Their product will become more expensive,
if they want to raise prices or not.
Trump put tariffs on everything, even coffee and bananas. Let's use them as an example. You cannot grow coffee and bananas, so all American products made with coffee and bananas will become more expensive for Americans and who ever you want to export these products to. When you export them, those products become even more expensive, because all those countries will tariff your products. They don't have the same tariffs on importing coffee and bananas and they don't have the same tariffs when they export them to anyone besides the US. Do you think you can undercut their prices, by a 2x tariffs amount? How much cheaper do your employees need to work, to compete with the rest of the world, that doesn't tariff each other?
A temporary dip in gas prices won't erase all the harm these idiots are causing. So you save a few pennies while the rest of us loose our pensions. At a boy, Phart. Think what's important here
“Saudi Arabia should be sending their trade representatives to the Trump administration right now, asking, ‘What was China providing you. Tell us what it is and we will make it in Saudi Arabia and provide a great trade deal',” Ellen Wald, founder of the energy consulting firm, Transversal Consulting, told MEE
well,you can't say he is not fit for duty.
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Trump: "We're making a fortune with tariffs - $2bn a day"
This is a LIE. Data from US Treasury, which includes the impact of some of Trump's earlier tariffs, amounted to $215m a day.
Trump: "The US imported $9bn worth of goods per day last year"
This is a LIE. Even with tariffs, whose average daily rate is 22%, the volume of imports is to $2bn a day.
Trump: "We have a trillion dollar trade deficit with China".
This is a LIE. In 2024, China exported nearly $1tn more goods than it imported. That's globally. The US part is $295bn- which is far less than the $1tn claimed by Trump.
And yet people in his cult love him, precisely because
he's a liar. I really can't comprehend this. But this
is what religion is. Religious fundamentalists cling
to this kind of shit.
He will remain unpredictable and unstable.
to go back up again, and make a lot of money on stocks for himself and his friends.
It's easy to make a lot of money from the stock market, if you control the policies
to make it crash and recover, at will.
It's fucking corrupt, but Trump doesn't give a fuck about that.
so folks want cheap solar to replace coal.
now they are bitching about supposed slave labor. how the hell is solar going to be affordable if you pay 20 dollars a hour for someone to make the cells?
quit sticking your noses into how other countries do things and just buy the cheaper products .you can't have cheap energy and tell other countries how to run their business's.
Coal is about THREE TIMES more expensive.
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Since when do you care what workers are getting paid?
Actually, the manufacture of solar panels is a high skilled job and even in China
the workers who make them are likely paid higher than average wage for a worker.
Most of it is automated. The workers are just machine operators.
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It's exactly the type of production that you say you want back in the US.
Mining coal is an incredibly unhealthy job. It's also very labor intensive. Coal mines
in the US were going out of business, because it's a financially nonviable business.
They only tried to keep the industry alive by exploiting the workers and ignoring safety
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coal mining is a dirty job. people have been doing it for well over a 100 years though and people still report to work every day to do it.
and if Trumps plans go forward,hopefully more will be getting jobs doing it. the 16,000 government workers can go apply for actual jobs that require physical effort.
China has pulled more people out of poverty than you would ever want to.
Tell the billionaires you worship to do actual jobs that require physical effort.
The Panama canal was made to ship goods quickly and cheaply between
the Atlantic and Pacific coasts. You can still do that. Why do you need to own it?
It's only because your stupid cult leader tells you.
It now belongs to Panama, end of story. The Panama canal also doesn't belong
to Russia, China or Zambia. If they shut it down, it's up to Panama to resolve that problem. If they cannot, it's an act of aggression against Panama. I'm sure they would want your country to come to their defense then.
Just because Cheetolini doesn't understand that, doesn't mean you should adopt his nonsense.
He had Jared Kushner investigate a good trade policy program, for his first campaign.
Jared just looked for books in the economy section of Amazon, and found a book.
He didn't read any of the books, he just looked at covers, and he liked the book titled
"Death by China", by Peter Navarro, who later became Trump's key trade adviser.
In that book, Navarro introduced a character named Ron Vara, who was portrayed as a seasoned economist offering critical insights into China's economic practices. However, investigative reports later revealed that Ron Vara was not a real person but an alias created by Navarro himself. The name "Ron Vara" is an anagram of "Navarro," and he used this pseudonym across multiple publications to present viewpoints aligning with his own perspectives on China's trade practices.
So, now you have a president, who implemented the economic vision, of the alter-ego
of a paranoid schizophrenic. This is a RECORD LEVEL OF INCOMPETENCE.
The Dow Jones opens on another multi trillion dollar slide!
Hopefully investors will calm down and turn this around
because everybody loses in this scenario.
WATCH: Republican Senator Absolutely SLAMS Trump's Tariff Plan
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As I'm sure you know, Donald Trump said on many occasions that these tariffs will be permanent…
Of course being Donald Trump, the fickle man he is, everything or anything can change on a whim, a thought, a misspoken sentence or a stupid post on Twitter. That's your president.
Leo has never had to live in the real world apparently either
if he had he would understand this is not a utopian environment
I'm definitely left field, but you have me defending CAPITALISM right now.
I'm just explaining what's happening, can you?
You have always been a staunch defender of capitalism and you hate socialism.
Trump is doing something that's not capitalism and not socialism.
Can you tell me what it is that he's trying to implement and why you support it?
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now that Trump is actually resetting things, it is horrible. odd,
Taiwan's President Lai Ching-te on Sunday offered zero tariffs as the basis for talks with the U.S., pledging to remove trade barriers rather than imposing reciprocal measures and saying Taiwanese companies will raise their U.S. investments.
now who is the idiot? zero as in 0 tarriffs. that would be great for all involved. that is FREE trade.
Question: why is phart gay?
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P.S. I don't mind at all that he's gay, I'm just asking how one can indubitably decide that phart is gay?
Personally, I don't think you have to be gay, to want to suck cock.
If you do, you're probably also not 100% straight, but who cares.
I think sexual orientation is a sliding scale.
Just like I think gender is very much a sliding scale. I'm very much on the manly side.
Men are very logical and emotionally stable, women tend to be more emotional and
base their thinking on intuition more. That's very consistent with phart's behavior and
the behavior of the other right-wingers. They have a very feminine brain.
It's such a shame that they cannot admit their nature. They would be so much happier accepting it and maybe cross dress every other weekend.
I have always been surprised with the high ratio of conservatives on this website full of cocks. They of course have to suppress any urges, because it's not acceptable in their culture, so they go out on the internet to live out their fantasy anonymously. Also anything that's most taboo turns into a sexual fantasy for many people. That's why the number 1 porn search terms in red states are “shemale”, “tranny”, “femboy”, and “ladyboy”.
I just wanted to say that trump keeps fucking him and he's enjoying it.
I was trying to make a joke out of his insistence, and, likewise most maga-idiots, that their Supreme Leader cares about nothing except his own skin.
Have you seen, however, some trumpers from West Virginia who are now crying because despite the fact that they voted for trump, they've been fired from their (federal) jobs because trump decided so?
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Shame on me for not reading the whole story. In the context of the Clown’s actions doing to everyone, yes, Phart has his ass in the air
my ass is not in the air, thus far i have noticed little to no affect on my life by Trumps actions. there will be a slight increase in the cost of parts i use to repair seniors equipment and such that i do for cheap or free as far as labor is concerned
You're enjoying being fucked.
Others, in W VA , for instance,
also trump lovers,
were fucked so badly-- they lost their fed jobs-- that are now regretting having offered their souls,and asses, to a rapist.
You're so hard-core religious though that you'll never admit there's anything wrong even if trump uses your mouth to empty his diarrhea shit. You'll merely say "I get free protein from my president-god."
He doesn't know anyone except himself.
not normal in how i live my life? sheesh, not being a bum to society is not normal? i don't want to be normal if i am supposed to depend on everyone else for everything.
The 75% of Americans below them have been doing worse.
That's not because of immigrants, that because Republicans have ONLY
been serving the rich and screwing everyone else.
To make you accept this, they have been paying the media to lie to you.
That's WHY you think "it's those damn illegals", who are rapists, criminals and
gang members, but they also come steal your jobs.
Somehow, those raping gang members find the time to harvest your vegetables
and fruit, pack your meat, build your houses, cut your lawn, etc.
The ideas you have in your brain fall apart in one thought, but you can't see that.
While you and the rest of MAGA believe that stupid lie,
Trump lets Elon destroy your country further for the working class.
They want people to be their slaves and you are giving it to them.
Look at the countries of the dictators that Trump loves so much.
Would you like living in their countries? That's the future Trump holds for you.
Trump is destroying democratic elections, so you cannot vote back what you had,
when you finally get yourself out of the cult.
Do you think that's what people are protesting, in 50 states?
besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
YES, HE IS THE PRESIDENT AND I’M NOT. DOES THAT MEAN HE IS RIGHT AND I AM WRONG? ARE THE PEOPLE THAT KNOW BECAUSE OF HISTORY, EDUCATION, AND PRESENT HAPPENINGS ARE WRONG TOO?
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besides, you don't have to buy a new car right now. wait and let the dust settle, when the folks get tired of holding their shit, they will reduce their tarrifs and then we will reduce ours.
THE PEOPLE HOLDING THEIR SHIT IS OUR GOVERNMENT. THE ECONOMY WAS DOING JUST FINE. WHY BREAK IT? AND WHAT HAPPENS IF I NEED A CAR OR ANYTHING NOW?
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besides, have you notice oil has went down to 61 dollars a barrel>? have you noticed wholesale gas has went down almost 20 cents a gallon in the past few days>?
um
YES, BUT IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM. OPEC WANTS TO BE IN A GOOD POSITION FOR THE MESS COMING.
“Eight key OPEC+ producers on Thuesday agreed to raise combined crude oil output by 411,000 barrels per day, speeding up the pace of their scheduled hikes and pushing down oil prices.
The group was widely expected to implement an increase of just under 140,000 barrels per day next month.
The May hike agreed on Thursday is “equivalent to three monthly increments,” OPEC said in a statement, adding that “the gradual increases may be paused or reversed subject to evolving market conditions.”
THERE’S ALSO A CONSENSUS OF ECONOMISTS THAT OIL, AS ONE OF THE FUELS THAT POWER PROSPERITY, MEASURES HOW AN ECONOMY IS WORKING. SUPPLY AND DEMAND COMES INTO PLAY. AS THE ECONOMY TANKS, LESS OIL IS USED. THIS CREATES A GLUT AND PRICE GOES DOWN.
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stock market dropped some. you know well as i do it was getting a bit over board. it will level out.
things take time.
just as surgery to fix a health issue, it takes cuts and blood and pain to get things fixed.
IT WAS NOT A BIT OVERBOARD. THE PRICE OF STOCKS IS WHATEVER THE MARKET THINKS IT IS. THIS HURTS MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE 401K PLANS. IT ALSO HURTS INVESTORS. THE ECONOMY IS TAKING A HIT. AND FOR WHAT?
That's something we don't see in Europe, or WAY less.
You are bett1ng on the idea that those stocks will go up one day.
What is the route to recovery that you see? Explain the logic.
The idea is that tariffs will return production to the US, right?
Who is going to do those jobs? The unemployment rate in 2024 was 3.7%.
You are most likely counted as 1 of those 3.7%. Just like fat MAGA moms.
How many millions of immigrants did Trump want to deport?
First you need to fill all the jobs that those immigrants were doing.
Then where do you find the workers to do those production jobs?
And then I would like you to explain who's going to buy those American products?
You can forget about all the countries you just tariffed.
Do you think Asia will ever need what you are making?
In Europe, we can make those products cheaper in our own countries.
Just because the US tariffed everyone, doesn't mean they'll tariff each other.
The result is that the US either makes, sells and buys its own products, or you think you can out-compete the global market by still being cheaper, after tariffs.
It must be the last option, because you don't want wages to go up.
Without wages rising, you won't have Americans who can afford those products.
So, you think you can make those products cheaper and better than China.
-> Americans need to work harder and more efficient than Chinese people.
Another alternative is only making high-tech, high-value products.
You need highly educated technicians to build that production infrastructure.
Trump is destroying education as we speak, so that's not going to happen.
You are towards an economy of dumb workers, who are paid less than Chinese people and work harder, thinking you can out-compete China, while China is heavily investing in education and innovation. Do you want to switch positions with China from a few decades ago?
I'm asking you all of this, because I want you to show that you put any thought
to the future of your country and the choices you make as a voter.
Look, it doesn't matter what you or I think. At the end of the day people with 401K's lost a huge value of their principal and even if they have time to recoup some of that money, they never get it all back. And in this case I know personally. In 2008 MY 401 lost 40% and I was never able to get it back.
He wrote
"he is the President,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
But he meant
"he is the one and only supreme almighty leader god,you aint, so apparently he knows more than you or I.”
He doesn't see trump as president,
he sees him as his personal god,
even though he'll deny that.
His devotion to him is the devotion
of a member of a religious cult.
He's ready to die for him and nothing will change his view,
not even I'd his god killed him.
here are some of those friendly bean picking farm hands that have been sent away.
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, six carried charges of child molestation, and one was charged with raxe,
cat's man has a record and is regularly reminded of it, but when others that have done the same or far worse are hauled away making our country safe, we are all supposedly
'getting fucked" leo, you make no sense at all sometimes.
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*chess champion
... or how it will be know in the near future "Trump Economic Disaster Day".
You are correct that tariffs could bring back manufacturing jobs.
If that was what Trump is doing now, I would praise him, even if it hurt my country.
Everyone in the world would understand and accept that, if that was what he was doing.
That's not what he is doing and that's not what he is saying.
He is starting a trade war for complete nonsense.
And there is no logic at all to HOW he's doing it.
Trump is completely incapable of doing what you are saying
and he didn't hire 'the best people' to advise him on this.
He's just doing incredibly stupid random shit, that will hurt EVERYONE.
You cannot expect your country to manufacture lumber like Canada was selling you,
in a few years. You cannot expect your automotive industry to make all the parts in
the US, at the same price as when you can buy them internationally. These are just 2 examples of tariffs that are going to hurt you, because your destroying your own global competition. You are also making the construction of your houses more expensive,
in a time when more and more people already cannot afford to buy a home.
While you need to bring back all those manufacturing jobs, you are simultaneously kicking out millions of immigrants who were doing your cheapest labor. You don't have millions of unemployed people who can do those jobs. If you did have them, no one would have welcomed those Haitians in Springfield. The economy of Springfield revived, purely because those Haitians filled the gap in your employment force. And that was BEFORE you deported the fruit and cotton pickers and meat-packers to prison camps
in El Salvador. (at least the results of your own stupidity will serve as a punishment for that cruelty)
The global industry is optimized to utilize the strength of all countries combined.
That's CAPITALISM. It's not my favorite system, but it is what developed humanity
to it's current level. It has tremendous side effects, especially when you let short-sighted selfish wealthy people dominate the system, but it used to work well, before it created
the pollution and inequity that is going to destroy humanity.
Republicans were the biggest advocates of free market capitalism in the world.
You are still always parroting their old arguments back to me. MAGA is now showing completely opposite principles. HOW can you process that in your brain?
How can you completely oppose my arguments, when I tell you that uncontrolled capitalism hurts people, but then argue back to me, that YOUR OWN PRINCIPLES HURT YOU, without being more open to what I have been telling you for years now?
They have deported a father of a 5 y.o. child, naturalized citizen, with no convictions. There is a whole list of people who were DOCUMENTED, never even had a parking ticket, but deported to a prison camp in El Salvador, without one day in court.
And when the get deported there "accidentally", your administration does nothing
to get them back. That's criminal.
And when they ask Trump about it, he says that he doesn't know about it.
"Wir haben es nicht gewuЯt" did the Nazis say.
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could it be these that were deported by mistake supposedly were hanging with the wrong crowd?
Immigrants commit way less crimes than 'real' Americans do.
But you keep thinking of them as criminals, who didn't crime yet.
There is only one term for that attitude: "racism".
Ice has mostly picked up people who were working on a farm or in a factory.
Many of them were NOT undocumented, but had some right to work in your country.
The large majority of them have never committed any crimes.
I told you that I don't want undocumented people working in my country either.
But that is the reality. It's not their fault, that's YOUR fault, for voting for Republicans, who took away all the accountability from immigrant exploiting employers, while blocking all the efforts from Democrats to increase workplace inspections and increase the number of green cards and other LEGAL working permits,
to FIX THE SYSTEM.
The PVV party in my country is doing the same thing as your Republicans did.
They are crying about immigrants, while making the system to handle them ineffective. Meanwhile, there are about a million working migrants in our country, getting exploited and creating problems in neighborhoods by being drunk and noisy. They are living with 20 people in an apartment, all paying hundreds of euros to some scummy employment agency. Our left-wing and liberal parties want to fix that exploitation, but the right-wingers block all efforts. Then we hear that there are owners of those scummy employment agencies in the right-wing parties and they get donations from them. Our politics is turning more corrupt, when right-wingers win the elections. They never solve a problem, but only make everything worse. Then they tell the people who get hurt from their actions that immigrants caused their problems and "the left" let them in. Right-wingers are telling the same old lies everywhere.
I don't understand why people like you keep believing them.
as for those that are supposedly documented, were the documents legit or fake>? there is a huge market for fake license,id's and such here in the us.
A documentation status isn't just owning a paper. Ever heard of records?
They have a big electronic machine, that stores information in the form of zeros and ones, coding for letters. All those computers are linked to each other with wires and radio signals. That way, people can enter information, so others can search and find it. Then they know things about people. It's all very convenient.
When you finally leave the 1940's, you might learn about them.