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And now he's explaining what he said in that letter:
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He's wearing a sports shirt, for crying out loud!
Yeah, those glasses....
I wouldn't say that he's as annoying as e.g. Ben Shapiro.
Maybe you're from one of the slower speaking states?
Fastest-Talking States:
Minnesota: 5.34 syllables per second
Oregon: 5.33 syllables per second
Iowa and Kansas: 5.30 syllables per second
North Dakota: 5.29 syllables per second
Slowest-Talking States:
Louisiana: 4.78 syllables per second
South Carolina: 4.80 syllables per second
Mississippi: 4.82 syllables per second
Alabama: 4.87 syllables per second
Georgia: 4.89 syllables per second
Am I right to see some North / South divide there?
Is your Italian family still celebrating the Italian kitchen?
Those are traditions that are worth keeping.
And have you ever been to Italy? I love it, even their driving.
Any education is only a basis and a preparation for the brain. It lays the foundation for learning and logic, but all the facts are fleeting. Even if you had the third grade of MIT, if you don't keep learning every day, the effect is gone in a decade. That also means that the lack of education can be compensated with self study. It just requires a curious mind and critical thinking. Critical thinking isn't just good for learning, it will literally make your life better, because it will improve every decision you will make in life. It's important for health decisions, money matters, relationships, career growth, everyday problem-solving, not falling in the traps of scammers, and not voting for politicians who will destroy your livelihood and freedoms.
The only thing I want from canada is for all the poor kids here in the states to actually be able to get their land that was taken from them by the tax authority at no fault of their own due to the Big inch Land company not letting the kids know where to send their property tax payments to
and now he's attacking her victims and calling them liars.
When will you understand that he's one of their r@pists?
His charges 'were' not dropped, HE dropped them.
He has stopped all the investigations.
Now why would he have done that??
You would say that he had something to hide, if he was a Democrat.
Remember when you all pointed at Democrats? There could be some truth to that.
But you'll never know, because Epstein's best friend for a decade is president now.
You know, the same guy who was president when Epstein 'killed himself' in prison,
coincidentally while the guards were sleeping and the camera's were not working.
why aren't you so adamant about bill clinton being held accountable? and all the other so called celeb's?
the libtards are only interested in using the evidence to get to Trump, can you not see that?
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I’ve been waiting for a computer board for over a week for my refrigerator, I’m living out of coolers because my fridge is not working. It’s costing me over six hundred dollars for the part alone, I would buy a new fridge as been suggested by friends but I paid 22 hundred for my fridge that I have, so not going to do that. Parts are so hard to find or get now a days.
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Do you think it serves your causes, when AIPAC controls your politics?
Here are key social benefits Israelis enjoy that Americans generally don’t:
- Universal healthcare
- Mandatory paid maternity leave – 15 weeks paid
- Child allowances – Monthly government payments for each child
- Heavily subsidized childcare and preschool
- Much lower higher-education costs
- Strong public transportation discounts
- Universal old-age pension + mandatory employer pension
- Guaranteed national unemployment insurance
YOU ARE PAYING FOR THAT!
Then they help elect politicians who tell you that the US cannot afford that for Americans.
Show everyone that I'm lying. Go ahead!
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you are suggesting arresting a world leader and putting a entire country in chaos i guess?
"Afterall, Putin risked being arrested as a war criminal in Alaska meeting with Trump."
World leaders visiting for negotiation have diplomatic immunity.
It's exactly types like Putin and Trump, who would ever violate it.
It's also why any agreement between them would be useless.
Neither Putin nor Trump have ever respected an agreement in their lives.
Even if it stops the fighting, Putin will be already planning the next attack.
i know the french like to make love not war but that doesn't help here. the best surplus military equipment like rifles come from france, only dropped once!!
There is absolutely no reality to it.
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Putin asked for this meeting, right? That's him being 1 step down.
He is terrified of going outside of Russia, but he agreed on Alaska.
That's Putin being 2 steps down.
What does Trump have to show for? He was humiliated.
Did your media tell you why Putin put himself in a 2 steps down position?
What is Putin worried about? Let me see if you have any strategic insight.
That's called "ignorance".
Negotiation between world leaders is the end result of diplomacy.
If Russia gives no signals that they are willing to stop the war,
it's useless to send your world leader. It can only have negative consequences.
Any idea yet what Putin is worried about?
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Russia/Putin is very vulnerable. Trump failed to use this.
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The EU is showing strength, by saying: "As far as Russia has not agreed to full and unconditional ceasefire, we should not even discuss any concessions".
That's why Putin is running to his buddy. To cry for help.
Trump has literally done nothing besides helping Putin, from day 1.
The EU is now paying for all Ukraine's weapons, and is doing all the sanctions. What did the US do? Send your clown to humiliate himself?
Why don't you learn something and watch the video?
If you are a chess player you know what I'm talking about. Trump imposed the tariffs on China. Now since we have resources within our sovereignty we really are not dependent on other countries including oil.. China needs the United States and they know it. Trump can if he needs to, create major embargos, or he can remove them not through legislation but through executive and judicial process. Russia is dependent on China who is a major ally with trade and economics on a global perspective. Trump is going to china in a couple of weeks... Starting to get the picture now? Europe is dependent on GDP percentage and tariffs the way they were. NOW its different.. Trump could work out a deal with china and if Putin does not agree to end the war it would spill disaster for him. That's why he flew to Alaska.
You should be worried. Russia-Ukraine is just around the corner from you. How many countries in Europe? Who is calling Putin to stop the war? This is your problem now.
NOW THEY KNOW..
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and telling Europe that you would be the policeman of the world,
when the going gets tough, you are not delivering.
You don't have to remind me that this is our problem now.
No idea what you're on about with the "pay to play" comment.
Must be some serious dark web conspiracy shit.
We are not responsible for your policing Europe while destroying our economy making our children stupid forcing them to change their sex and identity. .Central banks tried destroying the police here with a ruptured border. How does it look now. We are not your mother anymore. We can trade, FAIRLY
Our homeless population and veterans have suffered enough from incompetence, corruption and endless wars fought for billionaires while they spend trillions of our money defaming trump, selling books and receiving donations of lies and propaganda. Europe is going to have to start reshaping their business models. Common sense would be to get oil from the Middle East and Russia.. If Putin starts to behave himself. We don't need oil. You do.
They always staged war so they can pretend they are sending money to fight evil but in actuality they laundered money. Starting to get the picture? Trump is ending these wars and ending the central banks and globalism..
when the going gets tough. You have to give us some time
to develop our own military industrial complex. That takes time.
The US intentionally hold the EU back in the production capabilities.
Your military industrial complex just wanted our sweet sweet money.
that's long enough.
and besides, you must have thought you were getting a bargin or you would have built your own weapons. duh.
Your high defense expenses are mostly for your own benefit.
It keeps the US in power over everyone else.
Are you kidding? Those weapons are as expensive as they can get away with.
There is one reason for why we didn't want to make them ourselves.
We were naive, thinking war was a thing of the past, that humanity has outgrown these primitive impulses. Obviously, we were wrong about that. We woke up in a cold reality, with not just Russia showing them who they are, but also America turning to fascism at a break-neck speed.
You're blinded to think it was just the US holding up the EU. You're dominance in the world comes for a big part from the EU holding up the US too. You benefited from trillions of dollars in investments, allowing the US to capitalize on shared intellectual property rights, keeping the dollar dominant in the global market, keeping your debt solvent, helping you stay afloat in the competition with China that you're losing, condone your wars over natural resources and to do regime changes to favor your economy, sharing intelligence with you, using your digital services, giving you our private information and allowing you to spread your propaganda to all our citizens.
We are awake now. We understand that it's time to break free from the US too. If you think that's good for you, then you're deceiving yourself.
You're the bully that stole our lunch money and copied our homework. When those bullies grow up, they're ending up polishing cars or at best owning a fitness center. The nerds grow up to own Microsoft or Google.
You're dumbing down your citizens, by destroying your universities, replacing science with dogma and making higher education even more unaffordable. You're showing yourself to be unreliable trading partners, turning the rest of the world away to your competitors. You want to stop investing in new energy technology, but sticking with increasingly expensive fossil fuels, that are polluting your water and agriculture,
and are damaging the health of your citizens. Your empire is crumbling, and the ideas you are coming up with to save your country are the opposite of what you need. You're burning it all down.
You're covered.. Right now Russia is on the brink of nuking Kiev.. Putin has gone war hungry which will only lead up to major sanctions. trump is going to get Russia bankrupt with china appers to be playing ball.. china needs the USA more in this time in history.. Don't worry your little bippy..
The democrats are going bizerk here. This is a major issue. Obama is feeling the heat of the DOJ breathing down his back and is creating terrorism here. Just about the entire country is cleansing emena of illegals.. The democrats here are running out of money but they will not give up without creating hate.. I'm confident in the eventual outcome.. Meanwhile Trump will be running for a 3rd term if the democrats force him to create marshall law. He may just do that.. Stay Tuned..
The EU needs to become independent ASAP. Until then, we will buy your weapons.
It is indeed big business. That's a big problem in my opinion. Defense is necessary, but if it creates wealthy and powerful people, who then will bribe the government into everlasting wars. I want the military industrial complex be fully owned by governments and directly funded by taxes, instead of buying weapons with taxes at a premium, making big profits for owners and shareholders. Remove bad incentives.
What would Trump do, when Russia nukes Kiev?
If China, India and other trading partners of Russia, prefer doing business with the US and Europe, and we use that as leverage,
Russia can go bankrupt in a very short time. That's what I was indeed hinting at. Phart didn't understand that, you do. Credits for that.
How are the Democrats "going berserk"?
You mean that they are making fun of your clown?
That bullshit the tell you about Obama is just a distraction.
He did nothing illegal. And even if he did, does presidential immunity only work for Trump?
Funny how you accuse Obama of crimes, and then directly follow that by supporting Trump crapping on The Constitution and creating that tyrannical government, that your side always fear-mongered about Democrats doing. The irony is completely lost on you, isn't it?
Trumps tactics in dealing with Russia would be the same as what Regan did. I believe china is going to yield to trump since his crippling tariffs brought them to the bargaining table. Putin likes to kill. Even after and during the Alaska conference he was bombing Ukrainian cities killing children in the process. He's gone mad. This may not be his tactic but he's a business man and views Russia as a threat to world piece. By destroying Russia's economy unfortunately starving the country where through drastic means forcing him to resign or revolution getting rid of him by other means. If Putic has any sense left in his head he would make the right choice. Unfortunately his lust for power Ukraine would eventually have to give up some territory and forget about crimea. I'm assuming that would be the deal. If he declines then crippling profound sanctions and embargos would force the russians to form a coup. I don't believe the Russian people want war. All they want to do is survive which is why they are hungry for food, medicine and shelter is a major struggle. Remember if you attack russia and they become desperate they will use nukes.
How did Obama support Trump in any way. He formed a soft coup back in 2017 underminding his presidency and the american people. Who did you hear this from? Obama knew it was a hoax yet he pushed the collusion narrative AFTER TRUMP SWEARING IN. Hillary bought the dossier.. There are many others to blame but without OBAMA the coup would never have happened.
Don't just take my word for it. See for yourself. Iran was the number 1 sponsor or terror and he sent plane loads of cash untracable over night to Iran. Why would he do this? Iran is the enemy of USA so therefore its treason and abuse of power but he still broke the law after his presidency.
The democrats here in this country are suffering the same fate as russia will suffer. Sending in the national guard while ICE deports illegal votes is taking their main vine offline. They are going broke and the media is starting to shut down too since the party funded them.
China doesn't need the US. You're only about 15% of their exports.
If Trump wants to force them, he could stop the tariffs against the EU and instead join forces.
I agree that Ukraine will probably have to give up some territory and forget about Crimea, but in a negotiation you don't start dealing them everything they want. Trump should know that, if he's such a good deal-maker. What's also important if you want to make a deal, showing the opponent that you're at least somewhat trustworthy. Why would people make a deal with you, if they know that you have no intent of keeping your side of it. Trump is notoriously untrustworthy. So is Putin, so a deal between Trump and Putin isn't worth the paper it's written on.
The Russian people have no power, Russia is a dictatorship.
Better think of that, before you turn the us in one too.
Leaders like that only care about you being willing to sacrifice
yourself for their glory.
Only naturalized citizens can vote. There was no illegal voting with any significant result. Those were all lies. Meanwhile, Trump is the one making Texas cheat even more. Most people do understand that, so it will actually cost you more votes than you're gaining.
Instead of cheating, why doesn't Trump actually do something to improve people's lives? That's the reason most people voted for him. That was incredibly naive, and he is now showing them that.
Trump is doing everything that the left warned people about.
People should have listened. Trump is only lying when he promises good things or promises not to do a bad thing. When he even hints
at doing something bad, you can rely on it.
Do you think he's winning people over, by cutting healthcare, food programs and social security? Do you think people like it, when he uses the national guard as an intimidation force? Sure, it's just Democrat states now, but people understand that these are tyrannical tendencies. Only you lot like it, when he threatens stealing a third term. All this shit is turning so many people away, that no amount of cheating will work. Trump will then cancel elections all together, which will turn almost everyone against him. This will end very badly.
The military took an oath to defend the Constitution, not the president.
He will end up facing the firing squad.
ready?? Those that are illegal aliens that climb over the wall into the united states who were receiving tax payer dollars, in 5 star hotels, visa cards filled with taxpayer dollars while a good number of people working and paying taxes are HOMELESS,,, this is justifyable on trumps order to cut medicaid.
I voted for trump back in 2016 because he made the most sense. Build a wall. Those that wanted to come here need to come through the port of entry to claim assylum. from there they are processed. Those that climb over the walls are tresspassing in our juristiction. In Europe I'm sure that if I was to barrel through the check gates in your country I'm sure I'd be shown the exit as fast as possible and being sued for restitution. The only exception would be if you are Muslim seeking asylum while raping your women and stealing your money. I wouldn't qualify because I'm a Jew.
Germany lost the war in WW1 and suffered with depression due to the Treaty of Versailles.. Adolf Hitler was arrested in 1923 because he led the failed Beer Hall Putsch, an attempt to overthrow the Bavarian government and seize power in Germany. On November 8-9, 1923, Hitler and the Nazi Party attempted a coup in Munich, but the insurrection was put down by authorities. The failed putsch led to Hitler's arrest and subsequent conviction for high treason, which resulted in his imprisonment for a short period.
Now pay attention,,, while in jail On 18 July 1925, Hitler’s book, Mein Kampf (‘My Struggle’) was published. He wrote it in prison, where he was serving a sentence for a failed coup he attempted in 1923. Did not the world know of this document and his intentions killing all Jews and others that show resistance to the Nazi Party? Was his publishings sent to all corners of the world? Time Magizing named 1938 the man of the year awarded to Adolf Hitler.. 1938!!! Everyone knew... Winston Churchill praised Adolf Hitler in 1938 of the strength and mind of Adolf Hitler..What about the Vatican giving Hitler his first prestige>... Russia, then known as the Soviet Union, signed the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, a non-aggression treaty with Nazi Germany, on August 23, 1939. This pact also included a secret protocol to divide Eastern Europe into their respective spheres of influence and was a critical factor in the outbreak of World War II. Hitler could not have done this by himself with no backing.. What about those American industrialists that invested with military weapons for germany during this instablity and PROFITTED by this reviting? Hitler and germany is guilty,, then the whole world is guilty... All of these bastards knew what he was doing.. Roosevelt turned back 10000's of Jews trying to seek political persecution knowing they'd be going into the gas chamber.. The whole world knew ,,.,, everybody!!!
Now its 2025.. The same thing is repeating itself. Israel is to blame, Jews are to blame. Netanyahu is suffering lies from the European Union and United Nations labling him as a war criminal. the UN was caught financing weapons of mass destruction in order to destroy Israel.. Look what happened in prestigous universities persecuting Jews through terror creating barriers so they couldn't attend classes. The whole world knows the truth and turns their back on Israel and Jews... When I heard how Donald Trump laid out what the Left was trying to do and because he won the primaries in 2016 and beat Hillary Clinton the left knew it was a revolution putting the bastards out of business.. Since the first primary I believed in him and still do. People rose and voted for him,, and again in 2024.. Its history repeating itself. This is not the first time this is happening.. Journalism doesn't want you to know what Europe is trying to do. The people of the united states of america? They came down to earth with understanding of doing the right thing.
You can down talk trump as much as you want. You can praise Obama all you want. You will never ever change my mind just as my whole family loved Obama as a hero and showed me the door when I said. "you are all wrong" I know the truth. Its all too easy how evil uses the same tactics over and over again. Do you support this?
Are you saying that you think that US citizens who paid 10 years of taxes shouldn't get any social security payments and medicare? Why not? They paid into it, so they should at least be partially entitled to it.
"Pregnant women who are single parents trying to bring up children that were abondened by the father should receive medicaid."
Well, don't they?
Not all single mothers live in poverty. Women aren't helpless.
Yes, help the ones that need help, but don't generalize in this way.
Oh sure, those immigrants are living in luxury, while Americans are homeless. Tired old bullshit. OK, how about fixing homelessness then? I just asked you why Trump isn't doing anything to improve the lives of people. Your country has enough billionaires who can pay a bit more taxes, to eliminate homelessness. Instead, those spending cuts are going to LOWER the taxes of the billionaires. Is this justifiable on trumps order to cut medicaid?
You know what, I'm done reacting to the rest of it for today. In just your first paragraph, you have shown clearly to start off whit the idea "Trump good", and then make up complete nonsense to justify everything he's doing. Don't you know about his fucking tax-cuts?
Are your billionaires homeless or starving? Trump seems to think so.
Or is he just enriching himself and his buddies who helped him win?
You're either lying to cover for him or you're completely ignorant.
but when men are tired of women, you don't say that?
you're NOT an independent voter.
of having. He would puke all over you for believing that.
There will be no more further conversations on this subject. It is clear to me now who I am dealing with,
Adolf Hitler (Germany)
The Nazi Party won the most seats in the Reichstag elections of 1932.
Hitler was appointed Chancellor in 1933 after electoral success.
He then consolidated power through the Reichstag Fire Decree and Enabling Act, eliminating democracy.
Benito Mussolini (Italy)
Though Mussolini’s rise included the March on Rome (1922), his Fascist Party did participate in elections and entered parliament legally.
After gaining legitimacy, he dismantled Italy’s democratic institutions.
Ferdinand Marcos (Philippines)
First elected president in 1965 and re-elected in 1969.
Declared martial law in 1972 and ruled as a dictator until ousted in 1986.
Alberto Fujimori (Peru)
Elected president in 1990.
In 1992, he staged an “autogolpe” (self-coup), dissolving Congress and ruling by decree.
Viktor Orbбn (Hungary) (modern example)
Elected in 2010 with a parliamentary supermajority.
Has since curtailed press freedoms, judicial independence, and checks on executive power.
Many describe Hungary as a “soft dictatorship” or “illiberal democracy.”
Recep Tayyip Erdoğan (Turkey)
First elected prime minister in 2003, later president in 2014.
Used electoral legitimacy to centralize power, suppress opposition, and change Turkey’s political system into a strong presidential model.
Robert Mugabe (Zimbabwe)
Initially came to power via elections in 1980 after independence.
Transitioned into an authoritarian ruler, clinging to power for decades.
Nicolбs Maduro (Venezuela)
Elected in 2013 after Hugo Chбvez’s death.
Accused of manipulating elections, suppressing dissent, and using authoritarian measures to stay in power.
Slobodan Miloљević (Serbia / Yugoslavia)
Rose through electoral means in the late 1980s and early 1990s.
Later ruled with increasing authoritarianism, suppressing opponents and media.
Juan Perуn (Argentina)
Elected president in 1946.
While popular and democratic in origin, he concentrated power, suppressed opposition, and established a personality cult that bordered on authoritarianism.
You can rationalize all you want. I'm confident I didn't want Kamala Harris who never won the primary. That was a joke. Nobody wanted her to be president and she dropped out with zero dellegates. One big fat Zero.
I voted for Trump to recover the economy and foreign policy. 3 wars stopped and russia is starting to cave. Throwing out bad criminals that aren't supposed to be in this country.
Why did 85 million people vote for Trump? They were educated before the radical left took over education. Critical thinking skills.. Not going by what the lying bullshit media.. What makes you so stupid is pulling off propaganda and not even getting paid.. You are their bitch..
Oh one question I have fpr you and think carefully...We are on a dick and cunt site.. Pornography,,, nothing more.. You've got ZERO pictures of you.. You've received gifts with zero pictures.. i can see if you are on instagram, facebook trying to get followers for your cause.. Why on a dick site with no pictures?
Do you realize that you have not put up ONE argument for why Kamala Harris would be worse than Trump? I agree that Democratic voters were stuck with her. So? You still assess her plans vs his plans.
Trump is hurting your economy. Can't you see the signs yet?
You keep repeating that Trump stopped 3 wars. Which ones?
No one would blame you for throwing out criminals. That's not what your doing. The large majority of the people he's throwing out are just working at their future, while your employers are profiting from them.
Not 85 million, but 77.3 million, less than the 81 million who voted for Biden in 2020.
If you cannot make ONE logical argument, based on real facts, or on honest opinions, for ANYTHING, don't bullshit me about critical thinking skills.
Scroll back to my earlier pictures, than you see nudes. I stop sharing nudes when the site changed its rules. I'm not sharing my private information with all the vindictive lunatics on this site.
Time magazine makes Hitler man of the year in 19 FUCKING 38 ... Liars.. The jews were being murdered by the 1000s at that time and he's man of the fucking year??? knowing he wrote mein kamof racial cleansing right? Guess who was president at the time??? Franklin D Roosevelt.... A fucck democrat.
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The vatican giving him the prestige.. Winston chrchill praises him... American Industrialists invessted by giving him BILLIONS buyi8ng weapons of mass destrrction. rising and coming to power.. You really think its going to be a fair election?? BUT I already told you this.. You're reading comprehension sucks even though you do write in english right? Very well versed When you lie.
Oh anyone can post a hard=on on this site. This is not your primary objective....I'm not here to fight with people. But if you challenge me with the truth then the truth is what you are going to get.
And now in 2026, the same business model,, BUT THIS TIME,, the jews fought back,, fought back hard,, very hard. They beat the shit out of all of them then Trump finished the job. NOW GAZA is ours.. We did not ask for asked for this.. YOU DID. Well,.,, we finished it.. West Bank, Gaza is ours.
This is a movie in 1061,, word 3for word.. This is a documentary.. Great picture.. The whole world brought Hitler to power,,, Not the Germans who risked their lives saving Jews.
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You have no idea who you are writimng to,, do you? I don't have to prove anything to you.. i know the truth the whole truth.. Hitler would not have come to power without the help of the united states.
But don't take my word for it.. Find out for yourself. that is not my responsibility and I don't owe you anything.
Below are the official results of your elections.
It shows that I spoke the truth and you were lying.
You, nor any of the other right-winger, corrected your mistake (or lie).
Is that your 'Moral correctness' at work?
There is only one morally correct response to this: acknowledging your mistake.
2024 U.S. Presidential Election:
Official Popular Vote & Electoral Vote (American Presidency Project, based on state-certified results)
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Republican: Donald J. Trump / J.D. Vance – 77,303,568 votes (49.81%), 312 electoral votes
Democratic: Kamala D. Harris / Tim Walz – 75,019,230 votes (48.34%), 226 electoral votes
2020 U.S. Presidential Election:
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Democratic: Joseph R. Biden / Kamala Harris - 81,268,773 votes, 306 electoral votes
Republican: Donald Trump / Mike Pence - 74,216,728 votes, 232 electoral votes
2016 U.S. Presidential Election:
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Republican: Donald Trump / Mike Pence - 62,955,340 votes, 306 electoral votes
Democratic: Hillary Clinton / Tim Kaine - 65,788,564 votes, 232 electoral votes
What is also known is the democrats maintain power from Chin through cheating. They have to cheat because if they didn't they would be bankrupted rather quickly.
You're denying official election results?
It's mind boggling to me how much you guys are required to lie to yourself, to keep the delusion alive.
It doesn't matter? Are you saying that it wouldn't have mattered if he had lost, because he would have just stolen the election anyway? Or are you saying that elections don't matter anymore, because Trump will make sure there will never be one again?
Say something relevant about what you want for your country, instead of useless generalisms. The future of your country always matters. Your future is tied to the future of everyone. How about investing in clean energy? It provides good paying jobs and it doesn't pollute your air and water as much. It's also getting cheaper, while fossil fuels keep getting more expensive, because the easy sources are running out.
I gave you the link and addressing..
Do you have any other questions?
Everutjomg your've shown here has been asked and answered. I'll leave it up to you creating your own conclusions.
History is repeating itself, and you are one of those stupid people. You're even worse.
You have not answered any questions. You have addressed a lot of them, but that's not the same. Conclusions are the end result of a logical process. Your claims are either false or irrelevant and there is no correct logic supporting your arguments. You have decided that you like Trump, for the rhetoric he is using, and you make yourself believe all the lies he's telling you, so you can conclude that he is right and 'morally correct'.
Your morality is based on a self-inflicted delusion, you have admitted this. You don't even want to explain it, you just tell people to go through the same process of delusion as yourself. That would never result in the same 'morality' that you think you have. It's based on supernatural nonsense like the main religions, but at least they try to be consistent among each other. They base their 'morality' on picking and choosing texts in ancient books, filled with contradictions and scientific ignorance, but at least they are able to justify their beliefs. They can point to a line in their holy book and repeat what they were told to believe what it means. You cannot do that. You say that your morality is based on Abrahamic scripture, but you cannot explain how. You encourage reading Plato, but you do not show any knowledge of what he taught. Plato's main principle was the pursuit of truth through reasoned dialogue. REASONED!!! You're not interested in dialogue, and certainly not reasoned. Reason means using a logical process for argumentation. I don't see you having the ability. I don't see you being interested in learning the skill. There is no truth or sound argument that anyone could provide you, that would make you change your mind on anything. You will call any fact that doesn't agree with you fake and you will call every argument that doesn't lead to an outcome that you like nonsense. You think that you already have all the conclusions, so you will lie to yourself to not upset those conclusions. You will take them to your death bed, even if Trump himself caused your death bed. If believing in flat earth would further Trump's agenda, he could make you believe it in a minute. It's a damn shame, and it's fucking dangerous. You have exactly what it takes for Trump to create his 'Drittes Reich'.
I said We've been through this. Asked and answered.
What is your questions?
I know I annoy you. All narcissistic liberals don't like me. I don't care. Further this is a debate of different ideas, I'm very educated with humanities and common ethics and morals. It makes no sense of me to share my personal feeling describing your character.
Europes taking advantage is the united is states is over. I know it sucks for you but with this format I fell better on the path our country is taking.
You're just parroting Trump, on the taking advantage trope. The US wanted to be the arms manufacturer, to protect your dominance and make lots of money from selling them. None of your wars were in favor of Europe, it was all to keep you the superpower, to destroy any alternatives for capitalism, to steal natural resources, and to deal revenge on the terrorists who attacked YOU. Even WWII was just your country eliminating a competitive power. Europe supported the US for decades, while NATO was only intended to further your domination over Europe, against Russia. We can defend ourselves against Russia, our military is three times as large, but Ukraine needs weapons that the US produces to defend itself. The US mostly sent old stockpiled, almost expired, munitions, while Europe actually paid for it at new price.
It sucks for our citizens, because it will cost lots of money to create our own military industrial complex. Still, it's better then having to trust the US to be our supplier. It's enriching too many corrupt selfish assholes, who have an incentive to keep the world in a continuous state of war. I hope the EU doesn't make the same mistake, to have wealthy people own the military industrial complex, because it should be completely publicly owned. As long as people make money from war, we cannot have peace.
How is anything I said there related to the courts?
Sure, Trump is ignoring all the court rulings. At some point, even his Supreme Court is going to rule against him, out of pure self preservation. That will be the end of your judicial branch, because Trump will destroy them too. Your legislative branch is already broken. They are just serving Trump.
Why don't you just admit that you want a dictator?
I say "Trump", but it looks like he's not long for this world, so it will probably be JD, who will destroy your democracy. Do you trust him to be your dictator?
being a world leader is a stressful job.
look how it has aged previous presidents of both parties.
i didn't even want obama or biden to kick the bucket while in office, and i couldn't stand either of them. i wanted biden to retire and sit on the porch with his dog biting his ankles .
Maybe you have not made fun of Obama or Biden dying, but you didn't speak out against it either.
Also, I think I am more justified in making fun of Trump's health, because he is a hate-filled sadistic motherfucker, who wishes misery and misfortune onto lots of people, while Obama and Biden are not.
What Goes Around... Comes Around.
Also, I don't want Trump to die, because I think JD is more dangerous. He's just as evil, but smarter, so more effective. I want Trump to stick around for years, but I want him to be too weak to do anything, and too strong to let go of his power. I want him to hold the Republican party hostage for a long time.
He should damage your country so much, that even his biggest fans turn away. It's unfortunate, but necessary, because most of you have a learning disability.
in this case?
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Meanwhile after Iran brutally destroyed by trump they find themselves with blackouts running out of water yet they still show their hatred for Israel and america. This by far is not their worstproroblem right now. Can you imagine the money lost by billionairs investing in the destruction of Israel.. Take a guess.
I'm very satisfied with the 2024 election. I did the right thing. You didnt....
2 pieces of advice I tell any ovalheaded libberal.. The more hate you give to trump who is not your president,, the less love you can share with your loved ones if you have loveones;. The other advice is to start worrying about the gross national product in the netherlands. When they go backrupt because of crippling tariffs you're gonna make sure you have noperishable items when the economic collapse starts hitting the beaking point.;.
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You only care if a president is senile, when it's the Democrats. Trump's mind has been slipping for a while. He's now worse than Biden was.
His health is declining rapidly too. Have you seen his hand and his ankles? Last week people were thinking he already died. None of the right-wing grifters were confident enough to make fun of that. They know he could die at any moment and they know your officials would not be transparent about Trump lying on his death bed. They are not being honest about his health this very moment. He is clearly getting regular IV's in that hand. What is he getting?
"after Iran brutally destroyed by trump"
"the money lost by billionairs investing in the destruction of Israel"
I have no idea where your mind is going with that. It could be anything, because you live in an alternate reality.
"I did the right thing. You didnt.... " I don't live in your country, remember? I'm not voting in your elections.
My 'hate' for Trump is logical. He is a danger to democracy and humanity. He is trying to turn the US in a true dictatorship. Your democracy has been failing for decades, but your side is destroying it completely.
You seem to forget that the "crippling tariffs" are only for trading with the US. We don't need to export to you, we have the rest of the world. Still, if your citizens want our products, they just need to pay more for them. So far, no company has decided to move its production to the US, to escape the tariffs. Several companies are strengthening their production capacity outside of the US, to escape the tariffs for the rest of the world. The economic collapse is already hitting you.
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What Economists Are Observing Now:
1. Deteriorating Labor Market
Flattening job growth: July’s jobs report revealed only 73,000 new positions added, far below expectations, with May and June significantly revised downward—down from 144K to 19K in May, and from 147K to 14K in June. That puts the three-month average at a mere 35,000 new jobs per month, the weakest since the pandemic.
Across-the-board job cuts: Over 53% of U.S. industries are now cutting jobs, with only healthcare still growing.
Labor participation decline: Despite low unemployment rates, labor force participation has stagnated, partly due to fewer immigrant workers, making the unemployment rate a poor recession signal.
Moody’s economist Mark Zandi—among others—warns the economy is “on the precipice of recession,” citing flat consumer spending, contracting construction and manufacturing, and rising inflation. He doubts even rate cuts by the Fed would suffice.
2. Slumping Consumer Confidence & Spending
Confidence dips: The Conference Board’s Consumer Confidence index fell to 97.4 in August (from 98.7). More concerningly, the expectations sub-index dropped to 74.8, a level below 80 often seen as a warning sign of recession.
Spending retreats: Consumers are pulling back on major purchases like appliances and travel; the outlook for the job market and income was also downgraded.
3. Economic Leading Indicators Signal Weakness
The Conference Board’s Leading Economic Index (LEI) declined 0.3% in June to 98.8, deeper than expected. Weak components include consumer expectations, manufacturing orders, and rising unemployment claims. Overall, the LEI has fallen 2.8% in 2025, trailing the 1.3% drop in late 2024.
4. Private Credit Bubble Risk
Jamie Dimon (JPMorgan CEO) and others are increasingly alarmed by the rapid expansion of the $2 trillion private credit sector—lending outside banking channels with high leverage, weak regulations, and limited transparency—a setup reminiscent of pre-2008 vulnerabilities.
Dimon also warns that fading pandemic-era stimulus and persisting tariff policies could further destabilize the economy.
5. High Tariffs & Policy Interference Undermine Confidence
Tariffs are dragging growth and fueling inflation: 88% of economists in a recent NABE survey believe tariffs will slow growth and raise inflation, with widespread concern over erosion of institutional independence (e.g., interference with the Fed and BLS).
Political interference is creating instability: Economist Claudia Sahm stresses that moves to undermine key economic institutions like the Fed and Bureau of Labor Statistics threaten credibility and could worsen inflation and instability.
cunt-man, anannas is not "dumb" persay,he just does not have a baseline of any sort to operate from.
he has no religion. which if for no other reason provides a foundation to build on.
his foundation is built on sand.
Compassion
Honesty
Justice
Courage
Generosity
Humility
Patience
Forgiveness
Gratitude
Loyalty
Respect
Responsibility
Self-control
Wisdom
Kindness
Secular moral standards value all of them too. Without any religious basis, just because they serve humanity.
Who wipes his ass on all of those values? TRUMP!!!
Biden represented most of those values to a far greater extend.
Here's a list of vices, that all religions universally condemn:
(so does secular morality, because these vices hurt humanity)
Cruelty
Dishonesty
Injustice
Cowardice
Greed
Arrogance
Impatience
Vindictiveness
Ingratitude
Betrayal
Disrespect
Irresponsibility
Lack of self-control
Foolishness
Hatred
It's an almost 100% accurate description of Trump's character.
If you even try to contradict that, your foundation is built on sand.
But hey, you can still fool yourself, by saying: "God doesn’t call the qualified; He qualifies the called.".
So, what does it look like when Satan picks a representative?
Mother Teresa? Mahatma Gandhi? Martin Luther King Jr.? Nelson Mandela?
Are you saying that you think that US citizens who paid 10 years of taxes shouldn't get any social security payments and medicare? Why not? They paid into it, so they should at least be partially entitled to it.---->I just wrote it.. why asking me if I said it.. They use a mathematical formula of entitlements.
"Pregnant women who are single parents trying to bring up children that were abondened by the father should receive medicaid."
Well, don't they?>>>if I said it well it must be then..
Oh sure, those immigrants are living in luxury, while Americans are homeless. Tired old bullshit. OK, how about fixing homelessness then? I just asked you why Trump isn't doing anything to improve the lives of people. Your country has enough billionaires who can pay a bit more taxes, to eliminate homelessness. Instead, those spending cuts are going to LOWER the taxes of the billionaires. Is this justifiable on trumps order to cut medicaid>>>YEs he has.. Gas prices are lower by 30% so figure out the math. No taxes on tipsl social security and home equity taxes. Better national sovereignty promotes increased safety. He's down to one war now. Less money the taxper is stolen from. Homelessness by far outnumbers in liberal states as compared to red states.Home interest rates are decreasing.
Is this justifiable on trumps order to cut medicaid?.....Well if someone breaks into your house would you give him your money? The moment you cross the plane of our sovereignty you are not legal therefore disqualifying you. leaving a good resource for people that deserve its benefits. United states citizens is not cut. If yhour lazy and capable of going school or work this disqualifies you. Its fair.
I don't care much for your "CNN, Msnbc..e.g". What is your justification for calling them all "fake"? Explain the difference between them and Fox'News' and 'News'max. You're not mentioning them, so you seem to think those are more reliable. What are you basing that on?
"independent stations"? Do you think Fox'News' and 'News'max are "independent stations"?
"I just wrote it" Yes, without any justification. Here's mine: if you pay into a program, you're entitled to benefit from the program. Simple JUSTICE.
"They use a mathematical formula of entitlements." Good!
"if I said it well it must be then.." No, you're saying lots of false things. A single mother making $100,000/year would not qualify for Medicaid.
"Gas prices are lower by 30%" compared to what? The height of the pandemic?
"No taxes on tips" are not helping for the lowest incomes, because they already pay almost no taxes. Tips are very susceptibele to get scammed by employers. Just pay those people a good wage, instead of making them rely on tips.
Those "home equity taxes" are mostly an issue for Higher-income households. The changes that Trump introduced hardly affect the poor & lower middle class. It result in the rich paying less taxes, which means that either the poor & lower middle class make up the difference or programs that help them get cut.
Trump cut taxes for the wealthiest people, but his tariffs result in big tax increases for everyone. The 50% poorest Americans, will see an about $1,300–$1,700 increase in expenses, per year, per household, resulting from Trump's tariffs. Nearly 60% of Americans don't have enough money put away to afford a $1000 emergency expense. Trump is sinking them all with his tariffs.
Can you answer any question without bullshit comparisons? What do medicaid and burglary have in common. "sovereignty"? Illegals don't get medicaid. There are however lots of undocumented immigrants who pay into medicaid, medicare and social security, without ever benefiting from it.
Why does every subject end up with 'illegals'? I'm asking you about AMERICANS, who get their benefits cut by Trump and who are now paying more taxes, in the form of tariffs.
You're not justifying anything you're saying, that's lazy.
Do some work. Look up facts and data. Put evidence to your claims.
Your 'news' doesn't do a better job of explaining what's happening, and that's about your own country.
It was time that your real you came out.
Besides that, our talk-shows actually let knowledgeable people, scientists and specialists talk. Your talk-shows just invite celebrities to talk about serious topics, which is useless. There is only one show that does that in my country and it's very right-wing. Their 'specialists' are paid lobbyists and failed opinion makers.
We have several long current affairs programs, where specialists are actually discussing difficult topics, without just puking one-liners or cheap rhetoric at each other. The host actually interjects, if they catch them in factual errors, and make them justify bold statements. Your dumb-ass Ambassador Pete Hoekstra found that out on his first day. He was challenged by journalists to justify his fake news about The Netherlands, and he didn't want to answer. They didn't accept his dismissals, so he had to leave. Later he had to apologize, or he would have needed to resign.
The Dutch are known around the world for being 'direct', because we don't accept bullshit.
You accept lies, as part of the deal in politics, we don't.
When our politicians get caught lying, they get publicly shamed for days, weeks, or sometimes even years.
There is nothing Donald Trump did wrong other than picking his cabinet unwisely during his first term and was unprepared for the democrats to go all in with cheating. I understand his business model
Trump derrangement syndrome is a very series disease fuled by people that lie in the media to you.. They keep you off balanced and angry. You can't see past their smoke screens of propaganda and bullshit. Anyone that is educated and transparent can clearly see this but not people with profound egoism with TDS.. What makes it worse than that is that they know how to get under your skin and off balance. Seperating anericans from each other they are hoping to create civil war here while putin stays in the war building up his nuclear arsenol..
Everu time upi cam trum[ names fpr crimes he didn't commit or just calling him a common crook you are blind seeing what the democrats have done for 250 uears with slavory, then when abolished they created the first terror organization in the modern age.. The Klu Kluz Klan,,public lynching, public hanging all the way to the 60s recriotomg recruiting polics as members and going into churches to murder christians in alabama and mississippi.. I can document that.
Socialism has never worked,,, ever and you want socialism..
A dumnb person does the same thing 1oce,, then realizes that if he does the same thing it ends up in the same result.. How many times have yuou done this.?
Gas prices at peak here in florida topped out at %4... NNow they are at 2.85they droooed 38.7 [ercemt/ amd falling more. With joe biden gas prices went more than 100^
Trying some Socratic games, I see, like "What's the difference between leadership and ruling".
In a democracy, 'leadership' to me means: having principles, communicating them to the citizens, asking citizens for support to turn those principles into policies that represent those principles, then show them to everyone and ask for their votes, and then, no matter how many votes you get, have the elected representative do the very best that they can to get the policies into effect.
To me, 'ruling' means dominating your personal believes onto others, to shape the world towards you own vision and to get hold of more power, for self-gratification.
How about ignoring Congress and pushing through everything by Emergency Powers & Executive Orders? Trump is breaking all previous records. Is that 'leadership' or 'ruling'?
Criticizing your president is not TDS. The guy is breaking all trade agreements and imposing random tariffs on everyone. He is breaking all agreements on Climate Change. We made a deal with your country, for the preservation of humanity, and your guy says "Fuck humanity!". The guy is threatening the safety of many countries, including the whole of the EU. If we don't pay up, he will withhold weapons from us and let Russia conquer us. That's a Maffia move man. You can try to justify it, but me criticizing it is not TDS, that's self-preservation.
"Socialism has never worked" You're calling a lot of countries 'socialist'. Half of Europe is 'socialist' by your standards. The most 'socialist' countries are the Scandinavian countries. Those countries have been doing very well for many decades. They provide a much better quality of life to its people than the US. Meanwhile, the working class in the US has been getting poorer for decades. Is your version of capitalism working? Well, it is for a very small minority of very wealthy people. The reason for that is corruption, not 'Moral correctness'.
Why do you keep talking about gas prices? The president has almost no effect on them. Gas prices are 2.5-4% of people's expenses. They go up and down, due to supply and demand and global crisis. It's the industry that decide how much you should pay. The government can only decide on the taxes or to sacrifice nature and human health for more oil extraction. Americans who live around the fossil fuel industry are dying young, from a.o. cancer, at a much higher rate than Americans who live far from it. Many Americans still don't have clean tap-water.
American citizens have been suffering low incomes, poor healthcare, expensive housing, expensive other insurances, expensive groceries, expensive education, poor working conditions, poor mental health, addiction, fear of their kids getting shot in school, and lack of time off to enjoy their lives. People like you either don't care about solutions, or they care more about blaming people they hate for it. Neither will make your lives any better. If you think that you're doing fine now, I promise you that you don't have to wait long, before you're NOT.
Are your billionaires homeless or starving? Trump seems to think so.
Or is he just enriching himself and his buddies who helped him win?
You're either lying to cover for him or you're completely ignorant. >>>>>>>>this reply coming from you is expected. You are a liberal far extremist.. You're admitted it. I'm not at all surprized and expected your attitudes the way they are. More than expected. A conservative debating moral correctness to liberal excrement is beyond impossibe..You are an athiest therefore moral correctness to you does not exist.
Can you explain the value system of a "liberal extremist"?
I'm a "liberal" for social issues, which means that I don't care what people do in their private lives, as long as it doesn't affect me in a negative way. Religion is fine, as long as you don't force it onto other people's children and you don't put religious dogma into law. Is that "extremist"?
Economically, I'm NOT liberal, I'm a democratic socialist, that means that I support changing the capitalist system to a socialist system, when we succeed in convincing people to vote for that. First we need to make news and information independent, so it's not funded by billionaires or owned by companies that are owned by billionaires. If people are indoctrinated with capitalist propaganda 24/7, they will keep believing capitalism is great, until it starves them to death.
I'm so goddamned tired of the stupid argument "You are an atheist, therefore moral correctness to you does not exist."
You say that you're not a Christian, but you're using a very tired trope of Christian apologists. DAMN!
What is "moral correctness"? Not killing anyone, because the '10 commandments' say 'Thou shalt not kill'? How about all the killing in god's name? If you are not a Christian, than you don't even have "Thou shalt not kill" as "moral correctness". How does your self-induced 'Abrahamic' superstition tell you that killing is wrong? Did you feel it, in your heart? SO DO I!
It's simple: getting killed doesn't imagine to be a fun experience.
I don't consider me to be that different from other people, so I can imagine that other people don't particularly like getting killed either. That's why I think killing is wrong. So, I think: how can we create a world with less killing in it? Maybe, if everyone has no good reason to kill other people? That should be a world with less CONFLICT over resources, which means less inequity. Can you follow that thinking? Would it be possible to create "moral correctness" from that?
You're telling me that I have to imagine some supernatural nonsense, so I can believe that some god wants me to behave in a certain way? What kind of god would care? What reason do I have to believe in that god? Do I need to imagine a god that cares about me being 'morally correct', so I can be 'morally correct'? That's basically what you believe, right? If not, explain it. In a clear, logical way. Can you do that? Or do you need to be an arrogant asshole, who tells himself that he is 'morally correct', to do that?
for never paying.
This is known to EVERYONE, so you're lying.
Key Lawsuits & Payment Disputes Involving Donald Trump:
1. Mechanic’s Liens & Contractor Complaints (Since the 1980s)
Scale of complaints: Over 200 mechanic’s liens filed against Trump properties by contractors and employees for unpaid work
Notable case—Taj Mahal casino (1990): At least 253 subcontractors were not paid in full or on time. Trump Resorts International bankruptcy led some vendors to receive as little as one penny on the dollar
Payment tactics ("Trump discount"): Former Trump Plaza president said Trump often paid just 75% of agreed amounts; bankruptcies often left contractors with only 30 cents on the dollar
2. Specific Contractor Cases
Cabinet builder (1980s): The Friel family submitted an $83,600 bill for work at Harrah’s at Trump Plaza. The company never got paid; this dispute contributed to its closure.
Piano supplier: An Atlantic City businessman sold $100,000 worth of pianos to Trump’s Taj Mahal but waited months for payment. Trump allegedly offered 70 cents on the dollar, or encourage waiting until the casino turned a profit—or risk bankruptcy.
3. Laborers & Unions
Trump Tower labor lawsuit (1983–1999): Laborers filed a class-action claiming unpaid pension and medical benefits, and exploitation of undocumented workers on the Trump Tower site. The case dragged on for years; Trump ultimately paid $1.375 million in a sealed settlement, unsealed in 2017.
4. Employee Wage Disputes
Fair Labor Standards Act (since 2005): Trump Plaza (Atlantic City) and Trump Mortgage LLC were cited 24 times for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage. These resulted in back-wage payments
Dishwasher at Mar-a-Lago (2007): A worker sued for unpaid overtime; Mar-a-Lago agreed to a $7,500 settlement in 2008.
5. Major Real Estate Renovations
Trump International Hotel, Washington, D.C. (2016/17): Three firms filed liens claiming over $5 million in unpaid bills for plumbing, electrical, and finish work on the Old Post Office renovation.
6. Agents, Brokers & Professional Associates
Real estate broker (2013): Rana Williams sued for $735,212 in unpaid commissions (2009–2012). Settlement occurred in 2015 under confidential terms.
Mortgage broker (2007): Jennifer McGovern secured a judgment of $298,274 against Trump Mortgage LLC for unpaid commissions; as of 2016, the judgment remained unsatisfied.
7. Lawyers & Internal Disputes
Some attorneys representing Trump later sued him for unpaid legal fees. For example, Morrison Cohen LLP—once his legal counsel—was on the receiving end of billing disputes in 2008.
Michael Cohen (2019): Trump’s former lawyer filed suit seeking nearly $2 million in unpaid legal fees. The case is still pending.
8. Fraud, Breach of Contract & Business Disputes
American Communications Network (2018 ): A class-action accused Trump, his adult children, and a Trump Organization affiliate of misleading recruits to enroll in a multilevel marketing scheme; still ongoing.
Ithaca Capital / Panama project (2020): Former partners in the Trump-managed Panama project sued for mismanagement and breach of contract, seeking $15 million in damages; the case includes fraud claims.
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only registered users can see external links um i wonder if the gov has been holding back anything on epstein and ukraine as the subjects of his work could easily have come from there.
Putin has killed 1000's of his own men and 10000's of Ukrainian people and i wish it had not happened. but he said early on, denazification was 1 of the reasons. nazi men buttfucked every young boy they could find and forced them to follow the nazis, research the hitler youth. could this child stuff have anything to do with that?
You're literally parroting Putin's propaganda to me.
Is this still you, or a troll-farm in the Kremlin?
According to Russia, you are all Nazis too. That's only 30% true.
I know that Ukraine is NOT EU material. I voted against them
in the referendum about the association agreement with Ukraine.
If I had the power, I would kick Hungary out of the EU.
That's no justification for Russia to attack them.
Those countries will not improve under Russian domination.
Having your own government as a country, that's actual sovereignty.
All your ex-presidents try the speaking gigs at least for a while.
Bush did, he's just not paid as much, because he sounds so incredibly dumb.
Jamie Oliver gets $500,000 per gig too. Are there Russians paying for his food propaganda?
True, NAFTA is mostly a product from Democrats. Trump renegotiated NAFTA → rebranded it as USMCA. Then, in his next term he said: "What idiot created USMCA? Cancel it!"
"Once NATO is cleaned up"? Is it dirty now? What simplistic language.
The American taxpayer is paying so much for 'defense', because you use your power for cheap resources. Don't expect the rest of the world to pay for those interests. Decide for yourself if that is good for the American tax-payer.
The result is a big fucking military, which could defend Europe, but the last time you did that was in WWII. In all your other conflicts, it was your interests, your regime change wars, your retribution on terrorists, and Europe came to help you. The first time in 80 years that Europe is at risk, Trump tells us: "You have not paid enough for our dominance in the world, why should I help you? Pay more, or I'll let Russia conquer you.". That's a Mafia boss speaking.
I cannot make heads or tails from the rest of it, it's irrelevant.
Bullshit green new deal? Can I conclude that you reject climate change?
While the 9/11 terrorist attacks were carried out by al-Qaeda, and Osama bin Laden himself, the 9/11 Commission found that the organization was heavily financed by wealthy SAUDI individuals and charities, who contributed to a system of indirect financial support that benefited the terrorist group.
The 19 hijackers on 9/11 were from four countries: 15 were from Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Egypt, and one was from Lebanon. All were affiliated with al-Qaeda, a global SUNNI Islamist jihadist movement. Iran's population is 90% Shi'a Islam, their autocratic theocracy is based on Shi'a Islam. Iran and Saudi Arabia are mortal enemies. It's ridiculous to blame Iran more than Saudi Arabia for 9/11. Obama had Osama bin Laden killed.
Explain to me how George W Bush was going after bin Laden, because
it never made sense to me. If you think Iran was the #1 sponsor, then what about Iraq? There was NO al-Qaeda in Iraq. A spelling error?
In Afghanistan, sure and Taliban too. It didn't require a war though, their government was willing to allow the US in, to destroy the terrorists.
Bush was just satisfying the hawks, who wanted to own the whole
Middle East. Could it be that the Bush family was heavily profiting
from Military expenses and oil?
In any case, those wars turned out a massive failure.
I don't worship Obama, I think he did many things wrong. He should have used his presidency to show Americans that Democrats are the true workers party, instead he played nice with the billionaires too.
Then you voted for a billionaire, with the help of the #1 billionaire buying votes for him. When they won, #1 got to destroy all the government expenses that he didn't like, which mostly affected the poor working class, while eliminating agencies that bothered his companies. Then, the number one priority of Trump was giving tax-brakes to those billionaires. Just repeating it, so you can't call your side the 'working class heroes'.
Maybe you still will, but it would be ridiculous to everyone with a brain.
But I pity you though
.it's sad but who cares about you? I dontfor they say a stupid person makes the same mistake through ignorance.. you have made a billion mistakes continuously
The ideology behind the holocaust is using a minority as scapegoat, for politics failing the working class, by a bombastic leader who demands absolute loyalty and accepts no critique, and who stirs up hate and uses nationalism, to gain absolute power, and then uses it to make people do horrible violence and crimes against humanity.
That's exactly what Trump is doing / is willing to do.
If you think you know better, come up with something specific,
instead of your useless rhetoric.
If Ukraine can do more than defend itself, we would see what?
I think you would see a Russia that is losing and has to retreat.
Why would it be different from the US going away from Afghanistan?
The US could have nuked Afghanistan, but didn't.
Why would you think that Putin would do that?
Putin is evil, a cold motherfucker, but he is strategic.
Can you pull your head out of your ass and think strategically?
What does Russia/Putin have to gain from a nuclear attack?
Does that bring him or Russia closer to his goals?
and besides, I am beginning to think that liberals use war to eliminate conservatives. reason being, there is no draft, only people willing to serve and protect the country go into the military now. if there is a war, those folks die, eliminating them from the voting base.
The billionaires are reverting humanity to feudalism.
Don't you think that preventing that might be a priority for liberals?
War is only a distraction from the fascist dictators who are working to achieve
that feudalism. Nationalism is just a handy tool to brainwash the masses.
You're defending Trump for attacking Iran and Yemen, clear acts of war.
You were OK, with him threatening Greenland, Mexico, Canada and Panama.
I only support war in case of legitimate self defense.
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The newest is that Trump is pushing an invasion of Venezuela.
The US deployed seven warships and one nuclear-powered fast-attack submarine in the southern Caribbean, near Venezuelan waters, involving over 4,500 personnel, including around 2,200 Marines.
Who is pushing for war here?
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if he didn't shit his pants, why else would he do the shuffle?
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the truth hurts sometimes when it is your own kind that actually commits the violence.
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Was it 'liberal ideology' that drove this person to their act?
The shooter left a manifesto revealing a deep fascination with past mass shooters and violent ideation, diaries and YouTube videos included drawings, journal entries, and imagery referencing mass murders, with hateful messages directed at Catholics, Jews, Trump, and multiple marginalized groups. Just because they also hated Trump, doesn't make them a liberal or lefty. Liberal and lefties don't hate Catholics, Jews and multiple marginalized groups. Investigators describe a chaotic, contradictory mix of hate, nihilism, and conspiracy-style thinking, which also included random slogans like “Mashallah” and references to Hitler. This suggests contradictory, shock-value extremism, not coherent ideology. Still, this kind of crazy happens much more in right-wing conservative circles, than on the left.
"The home environment was described as deeply Catholic, with elements of religious conservatism—neighbors recalled home-based prayer meetings, homeschooling on Saturdays, and strong anti-abortion activism by the mother."
Those parents are 100% Trump voters. They just melted their kid's brain.
Your side always immediately accuses the other side, and you never apologize.
as proof that he's still alive. Why would they do that, if he was actually doing well?
I don't think he's dead, but there is obviously something wrong with him, if he's not able
to just make a real photo of himself playing golf.
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"Warren Buffett Just Sent a Hidden Warning"
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But, you go ahead, and invest on the idea that Trump will strengthen the US economy.
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as good as this sounds, i would not have said something like this in public. i am not naive enough to think that there were no illegals coming into the US for 3 months. they just find another way in.
this statement will bite them in the ass.
Wall Street broke Cracker Barrel, not WOKENESS
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I don't think we have to worry about Trump trying to steal a 3rd term.
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shutting down due in part of high labor cost.
decided to close in 2022 so can't blame Trump.
Trump has almost completely collapsed foreign tourism.
That's the second point they are mentioning.
Biden only increased the minimum wage of government workers.
That's not the employees of an Ice Cream Shop.
The first cause is expensive ingredients.
1) Soaring ingredient costs. Cocoa is a key ingredient, as Kilwins sells fudge, ice cream, and sweets. Cocoa sold for $9.99 per pound when the shop opened, but now sells for $42.99 per pound.
2) Reduced food traffic. Gross sales have dropped to a quarter of what they previously were, the owner said.
3) Rising rent and labor costs. The owner said that rent has gone up, and the cost of wages has doubled.
The sharp rise in cocoa prices is primarily attributed to climate-induced production challenges and supply chain disruptions. While tariffs have contributed to the overall cost increase, they are not the main driver behind the substantial price surge.
If you can actually find a cause and effect, then you have an argument.
Like I do, with tariffs and disrupted tourism, which is Trump's doing.
What did Biden actually DO, to make the cost of wages double?
And if all the wages actually doubled, more people would have money to spend
on Ice Cream.
Ice Cream shops are having a tough business for a long time. That's true.
There are many causes for that. I'm not claiming that Trump caused them all.
You are however claiming that Biden caused them all. That's bullshit.
If Biden had raised their minimum wage and double it, you would have a point that their labor costs would have gone up. Still not doubled, because there's more to labor costs than just wages. Base wages / hourly pay is 70–85% of labor costs.
Labor typically makes up about 33–50% of total costs for U.S. ice cream shops, depending on the shop’s efficiency, wages, and business model.
If the wages double, that would increase the total cost of an ice cream shop by 25%-43%. The total costs are not the same as the total revenue, or they would make no profit.
The Gross Profit Margin of Ice cream shops generally falls between 50% to 70%. Some sources even suggest a range of 60% to 80%. Lets call it 60%. If they make the average 60% of profit and labor at 40% of total costs, they would need to only raise the prices of their products by 16.0% to make the same profit in dollars. But that's if their prices would NOT affect their sales. Sales are dependent on supply and demand.
How much the ice cream shop needs to increase their prices, is dependent on the specific supply/demand of any individual ice cream shop at a certain location. If the location is surrounded by poor people, the sales could go down a lot, if they are surrounded by rich people, it doesn't matter much. Ice cream is not a basic necessity.
There is no significant competition factor, because we are now talking about all wages increasing. The ice cream shop 1 mile down the road is paying for the same wage increases. However, one shop could be more efficient than the other.
You are still completely ignoring the economic changes that come from actual wage increases. People who see their wages double obviously would have some higher costs, because labor costs are included in the whole economy, but like I just explained, doubling hourly wages DO NOT double the prices of everything.
Increasing minimum wage mostly affects low wages. Someone making $7.50/hour would see their wages double with a minimum wage of $15/hour. Someone who made $25/hour before, would not get $50/hour then. The income distribution would shift a bit, but like you are proposing.
If an ice cream shop is in a low income area, their sales would increase massively,
if all the people's wages were doubled by increasing the minimum wage. It wouldn't matter in a rich neighborhood. I'm not rich, just above median income, but the fact that ice cream is more expensive now doesn't affect my purchases. If I want one, I get one, it's only affected by my health considerations and my self discipline.
If I would give a poor family $1000/month, their ice cream purchases might go up from $3/month to $40/month. They would be able to afford some (more) luxuries.
If I give a rich family $1000/month, their ice cream purchases wouldn't go up a cent, because they are already eating all the ice cream that they want.
I hope you learn some economics from this, because it's exhausting explaining it
all the time.
not his fault.
but I agree that declining tourism was not, THEN.
The declining tourism is Trump's fault, NOW.
Many potential tourists hate the US now and many fear getting deported
or at least getting bothered, or beaten up, by your ICE gestapo goons.
Tourists don't like border security demanding to look in their phone or laptop.
They're are all making fun of your clowns and one meme can end their vacation.
You said that you don't want them, but it's going to affect Ice Cream shops.
So stop crying about them and cut the stupidity blaming Biden. Own your FAFO!
The real terrorist just won't bring phones or laptops.
Even Abdullah from Al-Qaida is smarter than you, to understand that.
What do you think he's bringing in his ass, a nuclear bomb?
But uncle Franzl and aunty Gertrude won't be coming over from Switzerland,
to spend thousands of Francs in Las Vegas, if they are treated poorly.
People like you are the ones who let a country slide into authoritarianism,
by believing and parroting shit like that, while calling it "freedom!".
the "Ten Commandments" in every classroom
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Texas has indeed passed a law requiring the Ten Commandments to be displayed
in all public school classrooms, a clear infringement on the First Amendment.
For any teacher who doesn't like this, and hates Trump, post the next topic under it:
Trump vs. The Ten Commandments
1. “You shall have no other gods before Me”
• Trump elevates himself to a godlike, messianic figure among supporters.
2. “You shall not make for yourself an idol”
• He has fostered a cult of personality—golden statues, idol-like brand loyalty.
3. “You shall not take the Lord's name in vain”
• Frequently uses blasphemous language like “goddamn,” even in Christian settings.
4. “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”
• Rare church attendance; consistent golf outings symbolizing secular “rest”.
5. “Honor your father and your mother”
• Critics cite ongoing disrespect toward both parents indirectly through broader behavior.
6. “You shall not murder”
• While never having personally killed anyone, he’s been linked to violent rhetoric, encouragement of police brutality, and handling of crises like COVID-19 and January 6 that contributed to deaths.
7. “You shall not commit adultery”
• Well-documented extramarital affairs, including reported encounters while his wife was pregnant.
8. “You shall not steal”
• Accusations include Trump University, charity fraud, civil fraud judgments, withheld payments, and handling of classified documents post-presidency.
9. “You shall not bear false witness”
• Numerous fact-checks cite tens of thousands of false or misleading statements made during and after his presidency.
10. “You shall not covet”
• Covets power, wealth, admiration, and even models authoritarian dictators; treats relationships as transactional.
Act like a good Christian and resist this blasphemer anyway you can.
1 thing you seem to forget, Christians are supposed to forgive. and by the way, the Bible mentions many sinners who committed the same acts as Trump is always accused of to do work of God.
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The Bible contains numerous examples of individuals whom God used despite their past or present sins. Some prominent examples include David, a king who committed adultery and murder but was forgiven and is considered a man after God's own heart, and the Apostle Paul, who initially persecuted Christians before becoming a key figure in spreading the Christian faith. Other examples include Rahab, a prostitute who helped the Israelites, and Moses, who had a speech impediment and killed an Egyptian.
Examples of Sinners Used by God:
David:
A shepherd boy who became a great king, but also committed adultery with Bathsheba and had her husband killed. Despite these sins, he is considered a man after God's own heart and a key figure in the lineage of Jesus.
Paul:
Originally named Saul, he was a persecutor of Christians before his conversion and became a leading apostle. He even referred to himself as the "chief of sinners" in one of his letters according to the Dakotas Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church.
Rahab:
A Canaanite woman who was a prostitute but sheltered two Israelite spies, and her faith led to her and her family being spared when Jericho was conquered.
Moses:
Chosen by God to lead the Israelites out of Egypt, Moses had a speech impediment and killed an Egyptian in anger.
Samson:
A judge of Israel known for his incredible strength, but also struggled with lust and anger.
Gideon:
God called him to lead the Israelites against the Midianites, but he was initially fearful and unsure.
Why God Uses Sinners:
To demonstrate God's grace:
God's willingness to use flawed individuals highlights the power of His grace and mercy.
To dismantle human pride:
By using those considered "unlikely" or flawed, God shows that success comes from Him, not human ability.
To show that no one is beyond redemption:
The stories of these individuals offer hope and demonstrate that God can work through anyone, regardless of their past.
To fulfill His purposes:
God uses all kinds of people, including those who are broken, insignificant, or have made mistakes, to accomplish His will.
the worst criminal asshole to represent you in politics.
They also forgive when the sinner repents. Trump doesn't repent, he doubles down.
He's still the same greedy, lying, hate-filled scumbag, he has always been.
What did those sinners, who God picked to do his work, DO?
Did they break their land's laws, steal food from the hungry,
steal healthcare from the sick, to further enrich the wealthy?
Is that 'God's work'?
Is it God's work, to kidnap the immigrants and put them in concentration camps?
Explain to me what part of what Trump is doing is God's work.
Trump is doing the exact opposite of EVERYTHING JESUS STANDS FOR.
If the devil chooses people to do his job, that would clearly be Trump.
"Gott mit uns" was inscribed on the belt buckles of the NAZI Wehrmacht.
You are abusing God's name in exactly the same way.
Matthew 25 (NIV):
35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,
36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’
37 “Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?
38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?
39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’
40 “The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’
41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.
42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,
43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.’
44 “They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
45 “He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
46 “Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”
- Care for the hungry/thirsty
- Clothe the poor
- Care for the sick
- Providing mental care to prisoners
- Inviting strangers in
- Treating everyone as brothers and sisters
That's doing the lord's work. Trump does the exact opposite.
Is that what Jesus supported as an ideology?
I'm an Atheist from birth. I still went to Christian schools, until 15 years of age.
I know Jesus' teachings. Forcing religion down people's throat, wasn't it.
Mark Twain once wrote "There are 2 important days in your life. One is being born. The other is finally figuring out the reason you are here" The desire of understanding the true nature of existence and how you fit into this.
As an athiest such as yourself we all developed naturally from star stuff. Nothing else exists.
I figured out the reason I am here; my parents wanted a child. Simple!
I recognize that desire. I think understanding the true nature of existence requires an open mind. That doesn't mean opening my mind to anything or anyone specifically,
I open it to what makes the most sense to me, using logical reasoning, which I’m constantly trying to train myself in. I opened my mind to many religious leaders
and apologists, they just failed spectacularly at making sense.
I'm very confident that we all developed naturally from star stuff.
There is good evidence of that.
I'm NOT confident in saying "Nothing else exists". It's impossible to prove that.
There could be a universe creating spaghetti-monster, I just see no evidence of that.
I'm not the type of Atheist that believes there is no god, I'm the type that doesn't believe there is one. That sounds the same, but it's a significant difference.
I don't believe that there is creator with a character as described in some old book, filled with factual errors and questionable morality, and if you don't believe that, you will be tortured for eternity. I could even say that that I believe there is NOT ONE of those. Reality would be totally different with such a monster in control.
All of God's creations- Earth, water, fire, Air.. Each attribute all of us possess in one form or another and need all 4 elements for survival not just for our species but for all of his creations.
The one element I haven't mentioned for our survival is the concept of time. When time started we can only speculate in our narrow field of understanding but without time we do not exist.
To me religion is nothing more than a political agenda that uses fear of damnation into conforming to its rules therefore gaining power by brainwashing with propaganda. Not going into it deeper.
Religion is one thing that is artificial. Understanding the true nature of existence? NOW we are getting somewhere..Mark Twain made a statement of truth. He did used experiences in the physical world where we are now, but for a brief instant he reached out into the spiritual world involving faith.
It's just my reason to not believe in them.
There is no evidence for pixies, unicorns, big-foot, or dragons either,
so I also see no reason to believe in those.
If God only exists in our hearts, compassion, wisdom, and faith, then is that still God, the creator of the universe, who sent his son to Earth to sacrifice himself
for our sins? What should I believe then?
No reason for any of the holy books, they got it all wrong.
Science has progressed beyond the 4 elements. There is a whole periodic table, and we understand fire to be a chemical reaction. It's all necessary for life, I agree, but where is the creator who made it all?
Is He (Gods preferred pronoun) watching, so we don't play with our pee-pee?
What you think of religion is what I agree it is for a big part now.
It used to be an effort of primitive humans to make sense of it all.
I'm not saying we do understand everything now, but all those religions have proven to be nothing more. I's not nonsense, but it's obsolete.
Powerful people have just seen how it can be used as a tool to hang on to power.
I would like to understand the true nature of existence, but I prefer not knowing everything, over filling the gap in my knowledge with unsubstantiated ideas,
to make me feel fulfilled. Honestly, if there is good reason for accepting the existence of anything supernatural, that would be incredibly interesting to me.
I just don't DO faith. Why would I want to deceive myself?
Another tool for understanding judicial knowledge is knowing when to express and when to listen. Liberals in general do more chatter creating noise when the right thing to do in that instant is to listen.
Have you ever heard the saying:
"The fools chatter while the wise man listens"? I believe they do know the truth deep down but it is diverted not by finding truth or solution, but to maintain power. The today liberal in this country uses race cards. Democrats always have expressing distain for white american middle class...They always have.
. Conservative democracy vs communist state of control using power and propaganda platform. They don't care anything about the truth. Propaganda is put out brainwashing vulnerable people including children in order to maintain power not by just "doing the right thing". Race cards, opening the border and cheating in the elections is what gave them power.. The pide piper is coming to collect... ..
You're talking to a guy who thinks that science and logic are the only possibility to approach truth. Being creative might produce art, or a good solution to a problem, but truth is reality. Religion has a whole different definition of truth, which I consider to be useless. To me, there is not even a relationship between truth and morality.
You don't have to say anything about Jesus or God, we both know what the general beliefs are. I just think that the God as presented in the Bible, is completely incompatible with a God that only lives only in our hearths or through faith. In any case, I see no reason to believe in either one. Both provide me nothing to make me understand the reality of existence any better.
For understanding politics, there is no deep understanding of truth needed. We are not dealing with highly complex people here. They have primitive desires of power and money, mixed with a tiny bit of ideology. Mostly they just picked a side, in which they invest themselves to make a career. Meanwhile, they are trading stocks with insider knowledge, and many have companies that they can give an unfair advantage with their position. The large majority of them are nepo babies, who never did a day of honest work in their lives, but they have very outspoken ideas about everyone who busts his ass every day.
When we consider liberals vs MAGA, the idea that liberals in general do more chatter, create more noise and don't listen, is a very funny joke to me. They don't listen, they tell people what to think. And when they do, they think that MAGA represents them.
Now, I do agree that most of your liberals are awful and weak, with only a few exceptions, but to me MAGA is an ignorant, racist, death-cult. Every principle that conservatives have ever vocalized, was dropped for Trump: Family values, Law and order, Fiscal responsibility, Small government, Free markets, Personal responsibility, Respect for institutions, Patriotism grounded in civic duty, International leadership, Civility in discourse. What remains is only loyalty to Trump. That is NOT democracy.
I asked you before, what Trump could do to make you regret your support.
Really that boils down to, what principles has he not betrayed yet, that you hold dear? Or is it not about principles but about actions for you? Maybe even not that, but you are just looking around, asking yourself: "Am I better off now, than before Trump came into office"?
I know exactly what I want my representatives to do, because my party has very specific principles and goals. Other than that, I want them to be honest and outstanding citizens. Betray any of it, and they lose my support immediately.
Can you say the same?
To describe faith to me in words you can't put down in words. What I do know is that 5785 years ago in a villiage known as UR in the land currently occupied by Iraq a man known as Abraham was born Abraham originally Abram is the common Hebrew patriarch of the Abrahamic religions, including Judaism, Christianity, and Islam..
Well what do you know about that? All 3 orchestrated one religion. Yet 2 of them diverted into what we now know as political parties.
The art of politics if you want to call it that is designed to divert from the truth in order to gain power. Abraham's parents were Terah and Amathlai. This is when Torah started although it is said in history Moses wrote Torah bu way of receiving the 10 commandments and converted them into text around 1299 BC from the God of Abraham.
So if this is true then how did Jesus Christ who was a prophet and scholar of Torah be the son of God? In Torah there is not just one messiah but rather all of God's creations are,,, air water, fire, earth. not everything of torah is mentioned,,, then it changes course with Jesus Christ being the son of God.. In short the one pure truth of existentialism-- the study of pantheism should be interesting and I consider with credentials..
For you to say MAGA is a death-cult trying to be objective as I can I don't see any path whatsoever that leads to your conclusion.. It's like the devil saying you're the devil..
I never discussed democracy with you on its meanings. All I was saying is that if you have a group of people who are egoistic and uneducated cannot form democracy. I did not go into that part because I understand materialism and logic is the tools you use in order to find your conslusions so it's futile of me attempting to debate this with you.
Yes the sovereignty of the United states is preserved with Trump in office. I go by prices of fuel and at the grocery store. Keeping men out of men's sports and not aborting babies up until the day of birth I agree..Also he greatly diluted inflation from 9% down to below 2% based on the value of our currency. He has never lied to us. of course you say he did but from day one I built a bond with trust. What he did wrong in the fist term was choose his inexperience in picking his cabinet including the FBI and DOJ unwisely. His attorny general was weak .. He did NOT fufil his promises well not all of them in the first term but I consider it was not his fault/ he made the choice of not filing charges of Hilliary Clintion and that lead to the phony russian collusion dossier that cost the taxpayer billions and quite possibly the 2020 election... His cabinet betrayed him especially the day after the 2020 election.. So there is a difference between promising something and because of mitigation unable to accomplish goals. circumstances unable to fufil.. I forgave him immeediately. This time his power continues to get stronger with his approval ratings going up every day. The democrates are out of ideas and are abandoning their posts. They AWOL'd texas and paid the price of losing 5 to 20 seats automatically.. He has executive power but because of blunders his opposition continues to do he's solid in Judicial with the supreme court, executive and now legislative. They will follow through with prosecutions once Pam Bondi is prepared to bring her evidence infront of the grand jury which by the way is in the Red state of Florida.
“What I do understand about how you feel that logic and materialism defines justice. Nothing more or less.”
A strange way to put it. How I define justice is purely based on how I want humans to interact with each other, because I’m part of that interaction.
It requires logic to formulate principles and laws from that basis. You can call that “materialism” if you want, because it’s definitely not based on anything supernatural.
Thinking that logic is limited to mathematics is 1 dimensional. There is logic to everything in the universe.
If there was a creator, would he/she/it/they be logical? If an illogical creator would create a universe, would it be a logical universe?
“You believe materialism defines justice.” NO, as I said, my preferences for human interaction defines what I consider justice. A universe without life is materialistic, but has no justice. Without thinking beings, justice doesn't exist. I'm not saying that universe would be IMmoral, I'm saying it would be Amoral.
“Eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth. Revenge to you means justice..” Absolutely NOT! That’s a right-wing principle, I’m a far left, democratic socialist, social-liberal. Justice is based on intent and circumstances, as well as result.
“Every single word I say has its value exactly how its said word by word”
Yeah sure, make some actual sense first, before calling yourself a “stable genius”.
I can describe ‘faith’ in words: "Faith is the excuse people give when they're either unaware of the reason for their belief, unable to articulate the reason for their belief or unwilling to subject the belief and its supposed justifications to critical examination".
The devil? Do you actually believe in the devil, as an entity, or just as a concept of evil? I would say that there is a whole lot more evidence of the devil, than for a god. Here’s an idea, maybe the devil invented religion. That could be a concept that I could convince myself is true.
To understand why I call MAGA a death-cult, we first have to agree what a cult is. This is the definition: “A system of religious veneration and devotion directed towards a particular figure or object.”. I call MAGA the cult of Trump, because the support of his followers is mostly based on his character, not on his political principles and plans, mostly because Trump doesn’t clearly communicate any principles or plans. Whatever he says, MAGA will like it, even if it’s the opposite of something he said before. No matter how hateful he behaves, MAGA will cheer for it. No matter how stupid he incriminates himself, with his own words, MAGA will deny it. No matter how high inflation will go up, or how expensive groceries will become, MAGA will both blame Biden and understand Trump caused it, but it was necessary. Even if Trump is going to openly say that he’s pardoning Ghislaine Maxwell, so she will be silent about him, but will accuse Democrats, MAGA is going to support it. Whatever Trump says, MAGA will parrot it. MAGA will disown and unfriend anyone who disagrees with them. Former MAGA who cannot take the bullshit anymore, turn into enemies immediately. THAT’S A CULT.
Why is it a death-cult, because of the hate and violence. Thousands of MAGA were willing to attack ‘the blue’ for him. They were prepared to kill and die for him, if Trump had even hinted at doing so.
There is truth to your idea that democracy requires eeducated voters. That’s why education is one of my highest priorities. I want it to be of the highest quality, affordable for everyone, teaching science and critical thinking skills. MAGA wants to gut education and turn schools into Christo-fascist training camps. Beside just enough English and calculus to be good working drones, MAGA wants children to grow up to soldiers for the dictator.
Do you want sovereignty? Sovereignty just means “the power of a country to control its own government”. When did you not have that ever in the past. Then, I saw Elon Musk control the government, without any control or oversight. You lot just trusted it would be OK.
“Keeping men out of men's sports” Sure, bud!
“not aborting babies up until the day of birth” which doesn’t happen, and no one supports, unless the fetus died.
Your numbers on inflation are bullshit. That’s you lying, for Trump. The value of the dollar has been weakening against a range of other major currencies in 2025. In any case, you’re correct that he has filled his administration with absolute sycophants. In his first administration he picked some people who could think for themselves, big mistake. His cabinet betrayed him, because he was a fucking traitor, and they either still had some principles or they were just not ready to sacrifice their nice comfortable life for him. They were obviously not CULTISH enough for you.
I agree that the Democrats haven’t been visible enough, but them leaving Texas is in PROTEST over Republicans planning to stack the next election in their favor. It’s something. I want them to throw a fucking scene every fucking day, but at least they did something. Yes, he does have “executive power” and he using it constantly for everything, while calling everything an emergency. Your side accused Obama of abusing his “executive power”, but now that Trump is doing nothing but, you love it. Oh yeah, when will Pam Bondi be “prepared” to bring her evidence? When she is done preparing your brains to consider a blank page with word evidence on it, evidence.
Since you think there is any ‘truth’ besides what is logical and supported by evidence, your brain is capable of believing everything that you want to believe. You said it clearly, to find truth, you need to be creative.
Can you explain what the difference is with making up shit, and then convincing yourself that it’s true?
When you have explained that, can you tell me how that ‘truth’ helps you to understand justice?
How about I convince myself of the ‘truth’ that the devil created religion? Creative enough? Will it help me understand justice?
You are taking my words and spinning them. You appear to be intelligent but you show evidsence od being ignorant and judgemental, stubborn and unpersuated. You are very skilled when it comes to divergence. I do believe you know the truth but you continue to divert from it. This is politics.
As I have said before,, politics and religion are synomous. Their purpose insisting on conformity is extreme either using hatred or terror. They create smoke screens with abuse of platorms then use that to perform abuse of power.
Piety, Justice, moral clarity, simplicity. The only way of understanding what is real,,,,,,,, and what is NOT real.
You've said you are athiest, and you spread hate for groups of people that voted for a man 93 million fold and you say this group in of a cult...Its fine, but I disagree and there is no evidence that shows these people are controlled by evil.. I call it choice. They made their choice and I made my choice.. You've made your choice. It is what it is.
My questions in life are not "how do I gain power and money"? My questions are "what do I have to do in order to learn from my experiences the right way in order to being a better person? The answers I'm getting over and over is to make things simple.
I said inflation has diminished from 9% down to below 2%, You said is bullshit.. No its not bullshit,,, as they say in ragged terms,,, I shit you not..
"Socrates' philosophy revolved around the concept of virtue as knowledge and the importance of self-examination to live a good life." OK, to say that your constitution is based on that is not wrong, but there's many steps in between, of which liberalism is one of the last.
Give some actual examples of me spinning your words.
At least I'm reacting to your claims. Are you reacting to mine?
If you call me ignorant, show me what FACTS I'm ignorant about.
You cannot call me ignorant for not understanding you. You are not a subject of general knowledge.
Judgemental, stubborn? Maybe. You could change my mind though. I just don't respond to persuasion. I only respond to logical argumentation, based on facts and principles that I either already agree with or you can convince me of.
I am indeed very much unpersuaded.
Piety? I don't give a fuck about it.
"Justice, moral clarity, simplicity" are the end result of a logical process, not the beginning. We can have a discussion on what results in justice or moral clarity, but just claiming to have it, that's ignorant, judgemental and stubborn. Simplicity is the enemy of nuance.
How is me being atheist related to not liking Trump voters?
You call that spreading hate? Show me that it's WRONG!
YOU ARE my evidence! Most of what I accused MAGA of, applies to you.
I'm not saying that you or most Trump voters are bad, but you follow a bad man, and you parrot his lies. Inflation in the US was at 3.0% in January 2025, it is now at 2.7%. It has not been below 2% since 2019. The annual inflation rate fell below 9% in July 2022, and kept going down, until Trump reversed the trend. Without any context, inflation rates are completely useless. Sure, 9% is too high. What caused it? Why did it go down again? You just spout some numbers and think it makes any sense. That's not giving an appearance of intelligence.
Politics shouldn't be about grabbing power and using religion to your advantage. If that is your observation of the US, you do not live in a democracy. Politics should be the process of representing the principles and wishes of their constituents, working towards the promises they made to them and working to implement the plans they communicated with them, before the election. I want them to do that transparently and enthusiastically. I don't like them to use dirty tricks, but I do want them to do their absolute best, while we, their constituents, support them with peaceful activism. That's what I get from my party, every single day.
If you don't see that from Trump or his party, why do you support them?
I agree, a life based on gaining power and money, is hollow and selfish.
If that is your life goal, you will never be fulfilled. It will never be enough.
Knowledge is a good life goal, but it is also hollow and selfish, unless you use it for something good. Now here is the real question: what does it mean to do good?
I don't agree that making things simple is the method for learning from your experiences. The world is NOT simple. To understand the world, requires understanding lots of complex patterns. It requires knowledge on lots of subjects. It requires a brain full of "thinking tools". If your brain only has
a hammer, everything you see is nails.
Intuition Pumps And Other Tools for Thinking by Daniel C. Dennett.
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Therefore the constitution was written based on platonic socratic philosophy in terms how the country can unite in order to perform a more perfect union..
Here are several sources that agree with me. Now show me yours.
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Some do mention Plato, but there's millennia of philosophy developing liberalism, which is the source of The Constitution, that you're just sweeping aside.
Are you telling me that there was no liberalism before the Democratic party?
The early Republicans could be described as more “liberal” than early Democrats.
Are you just one of those idiots who call Democrats "liberals, socialists, communists, Marxists", without understanding the huge differences between those 4 ideologies? Is that the basis of your understanding of the term "liberalism"?
It's not my problem, if you don't understand what liberalism is.
It's not hard to find. Wiki will tell you: "Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property, and equality before the law."
"Liberalism's origins can be traced back to the Enlightenment era, with its roots in the intellectual and political shifts of the 17th and 18th centuries. It emerged as a distinct ideology challenging traditional forms of authority, particularly absolute monarchy and the established church, emphasizing individual liberty, limited government, and free markets."
"The concept of liberal democracy, as it is understood today, developed in the late 18th and early 19th centuries, with the American and French Revolutions playing a key role in its emergence. While the term "liberal democracy" itself wasn't coined until the mid-1860s in France, the ideas and principles that define it took root earlier."
Meanwhile, you are calling "politics and religion are synomous". Where is the "enlightenment" part. You are turning back the clock hundreds of years.
When you say: "politics and religion are synomous", why are you surprised that I call MAGA a cult? The thinking behind that statement is exactly what I'm pointing out as the problem. They are synomous TO YOU, not to me.
You can use different terms but has the same idea. Everything to democrats do is to promote anti-constitution format to bring back socialism.
You need to go back and study,,Politics and religion are synomous because they invoke propaganda.
Whether you understand or not is not my proplem either.
My conclusions are what they are with methods you do not understand because they involve faith, stoicism realizing the only way we are going to survive and grow is with our pledge of allegence to our flag "One nation, under God indivisable with liberty and justice for all. Not just the ones that can afford high priced lawyers.
What did the Democrats do that is unconstitutional? Which parts?
Bring back socialism? The US never had it.
The Democrats don't support socialism. When they had the power
to nationalize healthcare, they created a private system of health insurances, not even a public option. They also didn't expand public education. They have not supported any socialist policy, in decades, except for a small minority of Democrats. The rest are corporate shills.
You insult me by calling them socialists.
A Stoic wouldn't vote for Trump. A stoic values self-control.
Trump explodes into madness every dingle day.
Just because both politics and religion use propaganda, doesn't mean they are synonymous, it just means that they share a characteristic. Politics is the proces of making collective decisions. You cannot organize a country without it. However, I want religion as far away as possible from making collective decisions, to organize the country. You calling them synonymous is in direct conflict with your First Amendment.
What does "liberty" mean to you? Does it mean that your vote counts just as much as the vote of a black man, in a black county, in Texas?
"liberty and justice for all"? How about for ICE detainees?
Ok, so everyone thinks I'm stupid so lets analyze this.. Since 2015 why have I been right on every single thing the democrats have persecuted this man only to find out it was a hoax? A political takedown. To bankrupt him, and to murder him. I am not so smart but intelligence has nothing to do with it. Not ONE time have I ever been wrong with Donald Trump being the greatest leader I have ever seen in my life.
So with that said, I have proven this to you yet you ignore my assertions of who is right and who is wrong, what is true. I can give the evidence right in front of your face and you'd still ask where is the evidence? No evidence.
I'm not upset with you personally. Trump derrangement syndrom is impenitrable, Whether you believe me or not I'm still going to preach the truth even if this entire sight says I'm wrong or stupid or fascist.. Whatever anyother names you want to call me. My whole family said he is a money grubbing liar, cheat, crook.. I had the courage to stand up to all of them and to you by saying. NO YOU ARE ALL WRONG.
Now 9 years since I stood up to ignorance over 80 million americans believed me finally.. Billions of others sitting in their homes feeling secure knowing he has stopped 3 wars and is just about to stop a 4th. Russians posted on youtube sharing their happiness and feeling proud of americans that have made the biggest choice in its history. Afterall, Putin risked being arrested as a war criminal in Alaska meeting with Trump. He even refused to even talk to Biden at all. Yet he went out of his way to come to Alaska and warmly invited this man I am so proud of to represent the united states traveling to Russia in token of friendship and partners in business. Russia needs some of our resources and we need some of theirs. The tariffs will remain in place as long as they charge us tariffs. America really can survive without trading since its land has more oil than canada and the middle east. We are in no hurry but its now time we stopped wiping europe's ass with taxpayer funds paying for their education or healthcare... Its over !
I will ignore everything else you said for now, and just tell you a story. It’s not about attacking you, but I want you to hear a story “from the other side” of conflicts like yours.
You remind me of my brother-in-law. During Covid, he turned full conspiracy theorist. He predicted full government authoritarianism and the deaths of everyone who took the vaccine. There was no possibility to have a discussion with him, without him completely going ballistic. Every time he started an argument and when I obliterated it with scientific knowledge, or just plain logic, he stopped the discussion. Finally, we agreed that we wouldn’t talk about those subjects anymore. That worked all throughout the Covid crisis. He recovered from some of his crazy ideas and he cut ties with some of his conspiracy theorist friends, because he recognized how dangerously crazy they were. However, his mind was still pretty much permanently cooked. He had changed to an absolute narcissist, maybe even borderline. Unrelated to his belief in conspiracy theories, he became impossible to deal with. He had several relationships with women that each ended in big drama, kids who were previously forced to be siblings were pulled apart again, he had a violent disagreement with another sister (not my girlfriend), he lost all his previous friends, he had created a big tax-debt that lost him his house, and he had fights with his ex, who he has a son with. The son has had a very tough life, switching from a stepmother with a surrogate brother, to another temp with 5 kids, losing his home, living with a new mother with two new sisters, one with ADHD, in a cramped apartment, and a father who turned into a tyrant. We all saw that his son was suffering from PTSD, and his father handled it exactly in the opposite way that he should have. He blamed his son for not accepting his new ‘mother’. The stupid ass couldn’t understand that the kid was suffering from fear of commitment, because his father kept messing up his life every time. I did talk with him. I did try to make him understand that his life had been pretty hard the last years. He half understood, but he also told me how hard it had been on him, that it wasn’t his fault and that his son should accept his new situation, and that it is now all better and stable. He told me “I have tried talking with him, but he just doesn’t tell me what’s wrong with him.”. I’ve seen him talking TO his son, in high volume, with the kid looking terrified. Of course, the kid won’t open up to him. In any case, that was the best I could do, because we didn’t see them often. At least it didn’t turn into a fight, and I hoped he would think about it. I guess he didn’t, because months later, we heard from my mother-in-law, that his son told his father that he didn’t want to spend that weekend with him, and his mother told him the kid had a burnout, and then he went crazy and told his son that he wasn’t welcome at all anymore. He also informed us about that through WhatsApp. Then it was radio silence, didn’t speak to anyone, for months. His mother, my mother-in-law, wouldn’t however accept that she had lost a grandson. So, she contacted his ex to have a day with him, we joined in. My girlfriend wanted to see her nephew too. The kid was completely different. Instead of silent and sequestered he was loud and unruly. I think it was still related to his PTSD. We still managed to have a nice day together. He also told us that his father hadn’t called him, but they saw each other in the city centre, and they had sat down together for a while. That was one encounter in many months. After that day, he had sent his father a photo of the four of us together. We didn’t know that, but we learned about it, from one very angry WhatsApp message, in which he cancelled ties with everyone permanently. We answered him with an explanation, not an excuse, and told him that we agreed with the separation. We haven’t heard from him since. We also don’t see his son anymore, because his ex-wife (they were married for less than 2 years) has created a new family and she keeps him out of contact. Divorcing her was probably not his biggest mistake ever, but he keeps making commitments too easy, one after another, after another. He also has switched jobs more than most people switch shirts.
He’s not dumb and he has two right hands, but he always makes trouble. Every time he had some conflict with a boss, often over money. He tried self-employment several times, but it ended in conflicts with clients and partners and the government. He has periods of making lots of money and then spending way too much of it, ending up broke. If you would talk with him, I’m sure he will blame everyone for all his problems. Also, he sounds a lot like you, relating to his world view.
His father was an authoritarian. I have experienced him only a few years, of the 25+ years I am with my girlfriend. When I met her, she had escaped her parents a year back and she was living on her own. Her siblings also had periods of not being in contact with their parents. Her mother was under the thumb of her father their whole marriage. Her father died about 8 years ago. Since then, her mother has discovered a new life. We have a good relationship with her now. She feels like my second mother.
In my family, we never had any of these issues. My father is a kind, patient, wise man. I’ve only seen him angry a few times in my life. My brother and I had lots of quarrels when we were young, but we always made up within the hour. We have a good relationship, although I don’t see him often, because he has been renovating his house for the past 4 years, he has 3 self employed jobs, a son together with his girlfriend, with a second son on the way. In my family, we don’t argue over politics. We might not agree 100%, but we agree on facts and there is logic to our opinions. We ask each other for advice, and then not force our opinion on each other, but what fits the other’s character. Our parents taught us to be careful, but don’t be afraid to take big steps. First and foremost, they taught us to be independent thinkers and to live our lives how we see fit, instead of what people might expect of us. I think that fits the term stoic pretty well.
I’ll answer the rest of your comments, when I have time for it.
"Plato’s writings, including anything that might be called a “book of Socratic law”, were not a direct, primary inspiration for the U.S. Constitution in the way that, say, John Locke’s "Two Treatises of Government" or Montesquieu’s
"The Spirit of Laws" were."
"John Locke is widely considered one of the foundational figures of liberalism."
"Montesquieu is often considered a father of liberalism. His ideas, especially on the separation of powers (trias politica) and the fight against despotism, have had a significant influence on the development of liberal thought."
Some experts, officials, and members of Congress contended that Clinton's use of a private email system and a private server violated federal law, specifically 18 U.S. Code § 1924, regarding the unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or materials, as well as State Department protocols and procedures, and regulations governing recordkeeping. Clinton claimed that her use complied with federal laws and State Department regulations, and that former secretaries of state had also maintained personal email accounts (however Clinton was the only secretary of state to use a private server)
Something like the above paragraph shows probable cause, the fact that she admitted to keep classified documents on her server and when served with a subpoena she immediately destroyed her cell phones and acid washed her server destroying the evidence of over 33000 emails leaving them untracable.
It is in conclusion that she kept classified documents on her server providing information to sell for a price. This is called treason.
Liberals of this country say Donald Trump committed felonies and is a criminal. Then how could he have run for president since a felon cannot run for office yet get elected?
Are you starting to see patterns? 78 million people knew it was a political takedown supporting a candidate that didn't even win 1 delegate in the primary election including myself.
Why do I see it differently than liberals? I get information by listening and through empathic means go into a persons heart through reason and understanding their sincerity or lack of. AFTER Trump won the 2016 election rather than trying to unify bringing the american people together as a nation she purposely divided a nation with the leadership of Obama recruiting the CIA, FBI and the MEDIA to bring down a duely elected American President by underminding the american people.
You can say there is no evidence especially before the 2024 election but now after classified documents were unclassified and shared with the world its kind of heard to convince people this movement is baseless anymore.
I'm willing to spend the time on it, but I'm not accepting this as a one-sided thing.
It's time to go to bed, right now for me.
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I presented lots of evidence, in separate chains, so you can separately react to them. Your turn.
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I asked ChatGPT. It bases all the information on publicly available legal records, which you and I can easily check. I'm sure you will accuse ChatGPT of a bias, so, it's your job to make a case what's the bias here.
Here’s a compact, fact-checked “starter” dossier focused only on alleged crimes tied to efforts to overturn the 2020 election (federal + key state cases). It’s trimmed for quick review; if you want the longer, fully itemized version, say the word and I’ll expand it.
Alleged laws broken (what they are + how prosecutors say they were violated)
1. Conspiracy to defraud the United States (18 U.S.C. §371)
Prosecutors allege a multi-state scheme to use knowingly false fraud claims, fake elector certificates, and pressure on officials to block the lawful counting of electoral votes. (justice.gov, Congress.gov)
2. Obstruction of an official proceeding & conspiracy to obstruct (18 U.S.C. §1512(c)(2), §1512(k))
Alleged efforts to halt/impair Congress’s Jan. 6, 2021 Electoral College certification via false elector slates and pressure on the Vice President. (justice.gov, Congress.gov)
3. Conspiracy against rights (interference with the right to vote and have one’s vote counted) (18 U.S.C. §241)
Prosecutors say the scheme aimed to discard/alter lawful votes and the certified results. (justice.gov)
4. Georgia RICO (O.C.G.A. §16-14-4) + related Georgia offenses (solicitation to violate oath, false statements, filing false documents, computer crimes tied to Coffee County breach)
A charged enterprise to overturn Georgia’s results through pressure, false statements, fake elector paperwork, and accessing election systems. (Some co-defendants have pled guilty to lesser counts.) (fultonclerk.org, Wikipedia)
5. State “fake elector” crimes (examples)
o Arizona: conspiracy, forgery, fraudulent schemes/practices linked to signing and submitting false elector certificates (Trump listed as “Unindicted Coconspirator 1”). (azag.gov, AZ Luminaria)
o Nevada: offering a false instrument for filing; uttering a forged instrument, for submitting false elector certificates. (ag.nv.gov)
o Michigan: forgery/uttering-and-publishing/false documents by those who signed and transmitted fake elector certificates. (michigan.gov, States United Democracy Center)
Status note: These are allegations unless otherwise noted; some defendants have entered guilty pleas in Georgia to misdemeanor offenses connected to the broader scheme. (Wikipedia)
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Key evidence (what it is, how it was obtained, why it matters)
• Federal indictment narrative + exhibits (Aug. 1, 2023): Charged conduct, overt acts, and alleged use of knowingly false claims; compiled by grand jury investigation (subpoenas, testimony, records). Core federal roadmap. (justice.gov)
• “Fake elector” certificates & transmittal packets (7 states): Physical/mailed documents and related correspondence received by the National Archives; show slates falsely purporting to be duly chosen electors for Trump. Obtained via agency records and FOIA releases. (National Archives, Just Security)
• Eastman memos (“Jan. 6 scenario” plans): Internal legal memoranda outlining ways for the Vice President to reject/delay counting. Leaked/produced in litigation and congressional investigations; later cited in disciplinary findings. Evidence of intent/knowledge of fringe theory. (cdn.cnn.com, cacd.uscourts.gov, States United Democracy Center)
• Trump–Raffensperger call (Jan. 2, 2021): Recorded phone call by Georgia officials; audio/transcript published, used by investigators. Shows direct pressure on GA to “find” votes. (The Washington Post, Wikipedia, States United Democracy Center)
• Georgia indictment & Coffee County evidence: Grand jury presentment referencing alleged unauthorized access to voting systems; mix of digital forensics, texts/emails, and witness testimony gathered by state investigators. (fultonclerk.org, AP News)
• State fake-elector indictments/affidavits (AZ, NV, MI): Charging docs and sworn affidavits detail signing/filing processes, meeting logistics, and delivery to federal/state offices; obtained via subpoenas, interviews, and document seizures/productions. (azag.gov, ag.nv.gov, michigan.gov)
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Notable witnesses / cooperating figures (who they are, how tied in, what they’ve provided)
• State election officials (e.g., Brad Raffensperger + staff): Targets of pressure; provided recordings, contemporaneous notes, and testimony about false claims and requests to alter outcomes. (The Washington Post, Wikipedia)
• Fake electors & organizers (various states): Signatories/participants in meetings and transmittals; their statements, emails, and documents establish planning and submission of false certificates. (Multiple indicted in AZ/NV/MI; civil admissions in WI settlement.) (azag.gov, ag.nv.gov, States United Democracy Center, AP News)
• Trump-allied lawyers (e.g., John Eastman, Sidney Powell, Kenneth Chesebro): Architects of legal/operational plans (VP strategy, Coffee County tech breach, alternate electors). Materials include memos, emails, court filings, and—in Georgia—guilty pleas/cooperation obligations for Powell/Chesebro. (cdn.cnn.com, States United Democracy Center, Wikipedia)
• Department of Justice/White House insiders (as reflected in federal indictment narrative): Witness testimony and records about attempts to use DOJ to advance false claims and pressure the VP/Congress. (justice.gov)
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Quick cross-reference (by theme → law → anchor proof)
• Fake electors plan → §371/§1512; state forgery/false filing → NARA document sets; state indictments; Eastman/Chesebro memos. (National Archives, azag.gov, ag.nv.gov, michigan.gov, cdn.cnn.com)
• Pressure on GA officials → §371/§241; GA solicitation/false statements → Raffensperger call audio + GA indictment. (The Washington Post, fultonclerk.org)
• Pressure on VP/Congress → §1512 (obstruction) → Eastman memos; federal indictment narrative. (cdn.cnn.com, justice.gov)
• Coffee County system access → GA RICO/comp-crime counts → GA indictment; related reporting and plea outcomes. (fultonclerk.org, Wikipedia)
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What I trimmed (can add on request)
• Full charge lists/counts for every Georgia defendant; detailed timelines for each battleground state; additional witness rosters (Congressional aides, state legislators, Pence staff); granular digital-forensics findings from Coffee County; and post-indictment procedural history (immunity rulings, motions). Sources exist and can be appended with citations.
If this hits the right level, I’ll expand next into a state-by-state matrix (charges → key actors → exhibits/evidence → witness list) with live citations to the charging documents and public records.
at least with a religion in place, there was some law and order so to speak, folks were taught not to kill,not to steal,not to steal each others wives, without religion, there would be alot more of it even today.
of Trump's efforts to steal the election?
it will be nice to not have to sit in line for hours.
a freind took their grandmother to the hospital and it was 6 hour wait to get her in, turns out it was a heart attack, thankfully just sitting doing nothing didn't stress her to much and she made it. she just said she was hurting all over and they didn't get in no hurry. illegals go to the er for everything, as do those without health insurance because they know they will get some basic care. it burdens the system and folks that are diligent and have insurance have to wait.
on America's emergency rooms too. That doesn't justify the action though.
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What makes electoral votes legitimate:
In U.S. presidential elections, electoral votes become legitimate when they’re cast and certified in accordance with federal and state law, and then accepted by Congress. The main steps are:
State Popular Vote Certification – Each state conducts its election, counts the votes, and certifies the results according to its own laws. This certification determines which slate of electors is appointed.
Electors Cast Votes – On the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (set by federal law), the chosen electors meet in their state capitals to cast one vote for president and one for vice president. These votes are recorded on official certificates.
Transmission of Certificates – The electors’ votes are sent to the Vice President (as President of the Senate), the National Archives, and other designated officials.
Congressional Count and Certification – On January 6 following the election, Congress meets in a joint session to count the electoral votes. Electoral votes are considered “legitimate” if they come from electors appointed in accordance with state law and the U.S. Constitution, and if no valid objection under the Electoral Count Reform Act is sustained.
Constitutional & Legal Requirements – Article II and the 12th Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, plus federal statutes like 3 U.S.C. §§ 1–21, establish the rules for appointing electors, casting votes, and resolving disputes. Only votes meeting these requirements are recognized.
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Here’s the Michigan story about those fake electors:
# Why they’re called “fake electors”
Because they were **not** the electors Michigan law certified. After the 2020 canvass, Gov. Gretchen Whitmer issued the official **Certificate of Ascertainment** naming the **Democratic slate** as Michigan’s duly chosen electors (Biden won the state). A separate Republican group then signed and sent papers **claiming they were the “duly elected and qualified Electors”** for Trump. That makes them “fake” (or “false”) relative to the only lawful slate. ([michigan.gov][1])
# Who called them “fake electors” first
The label showed up in media coverage right away—e.g., a **Dec. 15, 2020 Newsweek** headline: “Michigan Republicans Tried to Submit **Fake Electoral Votes** to Capitol.” Later, Michigan’s attorney general and the U.S. House Jan. 6 Committee also used “fake/false electors” in official materials. ([Newsweek][2], [GovInfo][3])
Trump allies and campaign officials referred to the individuals involved in the "fake electors" scheme as "fake electors" themselves. This term was used both internally among Trump’s team and externally in legal contexts.
Evidence of Internal Acknowledgment
Internal communications reveal that Trump campaign officials recognized the individuals as "fake electors." For instance, in Georgia, Robert Sinners, the Trump campaign’s state director for election day operations, emailed all Georgia fake electors on November 6, 2020, thanking them for agreeing to serve as Republican electors or alternates. He emphasized the need for discretion and secrecy, stating, "Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result – a win in Georgia for President Trump – but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion." This acknowledgment of their role as "electors" in the context of the scheme implies recognition of their status as "fake electors" in the broader plot to overturn the election results.
# How they falsified documents (what they did)
According to the Michigan AG’s investigator’s sworn **affidavit** and related testimony/evidence:
* **Met at Michigan GOP headquarters** on Dec. 14, 2020 (not in the Capitol where real electors meet) and **signed a “Certificate of the Votes of the 2020 Electors from Michigan,”** asserting they were Michigan’s **“duly elected and qualified”** electors and that they had convened in the **State Capitol** at 2:00 p.m. (they had not).
* **Tried to deliver** the envelope to the Michigan Senate at the Capitol that day and were **turned away by State Police**.
* **Mailed the signed documents** to federal and state officials; the **National Archives** and the **U.S. Senate** received a set postmarked for Jan. 5, 2021. The Senate’s former counsel testified a **fake Michigan Certificate of Votes** arrived and did not match the lawful certificate signed by the Governor. ([AP News][4])
The affidavit also notes two “**Certificates of Filling Vacancy**” were included, naming replacements for two Republicans who didn’t attend—another attempt to mirror the formal process.
# Why that’s a crime (the charges & statutes)
Michigan charged 16 signers in July 2023. The affidavit lays out the statutes:
* **Forgery** of a public record — **MCL 750.248**
* **Election-law forgery** — **MCL 168.933a**
* **Uttering and publishing** a forged document — **MCL 750.249**
* **Conspiracy** to commit the above — **MCL 750.157a**
Signing and transmitting documents **falsely claiming** to be Michigan’s duly elected electors and **falsely stating** they met at the Capitol are alleged violations of those laws. ([michigan.gov][1])
# The evidence, in brief
* The **signed false certificates** themselves (claiming “duly elected and qualified” status and a Capitol meeting).
* **Video/incident report** of the group attempting to enter the Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020 and being **denied entry**.
* **Mailing records** and the **National Archives/U.S. Senate** receipt of the false certificate (with return address linked to a signer). ([AP News][4])
* The **AG investigator’s sworn affidavit** summarizing the timeline, statutes, and basis for charges. ([michigan.gov][1])
* Additional public reporting and court coverage tracking the case and hearings. ([Michigan Advance][5], [pbs.org][6], [News From The States][7])
That’s why they’re widely referred to as “fake electors”: their papers tried to **replace** Michigan’s certified electoral votes with **unauthorized** ones.
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More truth
Every time Trump speaks, he incriminates himself further,
while the red hatters shout "Obama!".
Look over there, while your president is showing everyone who he is!
And then you do as you're told. Pathetic!
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According to your profile, you live in CANADA.
Did you vote for Trump and then fled for the consequences?
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You might not believe me, but I really do want to understand you.
Does the following video represent the reasons that you had?
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I'm glad you would like to understand me but I'm not a socialist, egoist or materialistic.
If you are athiest I believe you take away tremendous opportunity bettering oneself through piety and obtaining a common frame of reference. For example, leadership. taking risks for the love and compassion from yourself for another. Being a good father, mother, son, spouse. I believe logic is only the beginning. The joy of giving of yourself for the benifit of others.
Avoiding division and hatred as well as temptation which is the rule measuring the character of a man or woman. If the human race is going to survive it is my belief that if you mix logic with humility through each other then we have a chance. Otherwise as long as the United States remains divided our country will be destroyed. When there are nuclear warheads on the table as chips with the same egoistic desires it is only a matter of time before we destroy not only each other but every single organism on earth. The power of unity is the only way but there must be education with common morals and ethics for the people entailed or democracy will not work.
Education is an absolute MUST at all costs The ability to gain knowledge in order to love, compose through free will being students, teachers and passing our knowledge for the next generation. It needs to be available for everyone regardless of economic status.
If we gain wisdom to just be happy with what we have and share then there is a good chance.
They have investigated her up to wazoo. There was just nothing to find.
Your politicians are corrupt, so is Hillary, but most corruption is LEGAL.
Your right-wing supreme court justices have made it legal.
Trump has lied his pants off about Hillary. This was just a dub attack.
"I never said 'Lock her up!'" He's on video, saying it multiple times.
Still, if you find evidence that she's a criminal, go lock her up. Fine!
What about all the evidence on Trump? All fake, right?
You didn't see him break the law and lie about it, on every TV channel on Earth?
Trump: "If you're innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?"
August 2022: Invoked the Fifth 400+ times; called not taking it a “fool’s” move.
Is the "tremendous opportunity bettering oneself through piety" just related to being
an atheist? Being Christian provides that opportunity pretty well too, looking at their behavior.
Even though your not a believer, as you say, the believers have still managed to make you believe lots of their nonsense. A third of my country is atheist, 58% is non-religious. Do you think all of them are not a good father, mother, son, spouse? My father is atheist and he has always been great to me and my brother. In your country, I don't see a whole lot of compassion. Your Christian nationalists don't have an ounce of compassion in their bodies.
My compassion comes from humanism, which is the only 'belief' I have. It's the proposition that people have human rights, like in your Constitution: “We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.". It has the 'Creator' in it, but that doesn't matter. That was just needed to get the believers in line.
The belief is simple: Humanity is served by humans accepting that everyone has human rights. No deity needed to enforce my behavior, by the threat of torture and the promise of heaven, because I care about the life I'm living NOW. I can only be happy, when there is happiness around me. I understand that other people are not that different from me. That's the basis for compassion. Simple, no need for a supernatural superstition.
If you're worried about humanity destroying everyone and everything, don't support "end-times fetishists" taking control of your government.
We don't need knowledge to love, it's in our biology. Only the teachings of dogma can destroy people's love and create hate. Anyway, I'm happy to hear that you consider education important. Do you think that Republicans have ever supported education being available to all? Do you know what they're trying to do in Texas and other red states?
Your last line almost makes me believe you are a socialist. lolHowever, you say you're not and you added that you're not an egoist or materialistic. I have no reason to not believe you. But, why then did you vote for an materialistic egoist? The guy has a golden toilet and brags about being a billionaire. At his inauguration, the stage was filled with all of the worlds worst materialistic egoists.
"be happy with what we have and share" that's the exact opposite of Trump's attitude. Don't you think that social security, Medicaid, Medicare, SNAP and school breakfasts/lunches are "sharing"? Do you know what Trump is doing to all of those programs?
Lots of people voted for Trump. I agree that the Democrats haven't given people very good reasons to vote for them. Would there be reasons to vote for them, when they show themselves to be the party for the working class?
What do you actually want from your government? Do you want them to back off and let capitalism solve it or do you want strong control of the economy?
How about social issues? Can gays marry? Can an adult get a trans operation?
Can women have an abortion? Should evolution be scrapped and creation be enforced in schools? Do you need more guns or gun control?
How about the rest of the world? Free trade competition or tariff each other to stop most trade? Should Gaza be cleared of Palestines? Should Putin be allowed to conquer Ukraine? Do you want a war with Iran?
Your sources of current events lack proper journalism. I'm not saying Trump is an angel. From a political perspective you can say what you want but when it comes to law then the path changes.
Nobody is throwing anyone out of gaza.On a conservative point of view if there is a question you have you need to find answers out for yourself not by hearing it from the mouth.. Trace it through then draw your own conclusions. You appear to be smart, well....
I don't care if you marry a donkey, horse. another man.
Nothing is stopping world trade. It's making it even trade.
In my last note I said the people of a nation need to be educated in order to form a more perfect union, from there you can develop democracy. Otherwise you will have division.
From moral standards I don't believe in abortion. However the law is what it is through majority, hence education.
Theoretically war should not exist.The best way is to take away their financial sponsorship.
Socialism , communism, politics.... Words.. its either right or wrong, but that is where piety takes control through moral standard.
Medicaid has been taking and stolen from the people that qualified and needed it for many decades and was abused by democrats giving out free money to blacks, hispanics and other non caucasion groups at the same time being dead last in education inside inner cities in exchange for power. Their standards have deviated from the constitution since growing from over 200 years ago. Medicade is being modified if you can prove you are mentally or physically disabled. Its being filtered so that the people that truely need it, get it.
gaza needs to be cleaned up of the terrorist, whoever they are, and their enablers, whoever they may be as well.
free trade,ananas, i am not sure you know what that means. if we in America let a country send it's stuff here without tarrifs, and if we send something over there and they want to charge a tarrif,that is not free trade.
free trade would mean no tarrifs, no extra cost from customs period. if a item is a dollar when it leaves china it would be a dollar here, and vice versa, until that is the case, there is no free trade.
if putin can show where ukraine was a a threat or becoming corrupt and a danger to the world, then yes, if not, then no.
don't want a war with iran, but i also don't want radical muslims that welcome death holding a nuke over my head as i sleep. you may enjoy the company but i don't
Capitalism is creating profit for the wealthy, with which they buy and then own 'stuff' (companies, houses, land, resources, intellectual property, etc). That ownership provides them the ability to make more profit. Follow me so far? However, they buy 'stuff' that other people need. To use that stuff, they need to pay the owner(s). There is only a limited amount of 'stuff' in the world. The wealthiest keep owning more and more of it, while the rest keeps owning less and less of it. The only economic rule that limits that transfer of ownership to the wealthy is TOTAL COLLAPSE.
Did you CHECK which countries had tariffs on the US?
Or are you just parroting Trump?
Why do you need Putin to show you? NATO was being a threat to him, obviously.
Can we now bomb countries that become corrupt? Seek cover then.
I saw the US attack Iran, I saw Israel attack Iran, and I saw Iran be modest.
Their leadership doesn't want their country to be destroyed. Simple!
It's not about that, you just want to be able to freely attack them.
That's why they want a nuke or several, so you can't anymore.
The biggest reason for why Muslims can't get rid of their dictators is the US. When people feel threatened they pick authoritarian leaders. YOU THREATEN THEM!
You know the feeling, you voted for Trump because you felt threatened. Am I wrong?
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Waiting outside of a courtroom, where people are working on their legal status, that's a scummy thing to do. Attacking people without identifying yourself, that's a stupid thing to do. Considering every non-white person, who cannot identify themselves immediately,
an illegal immigrant, is against the Fourth Amendment. They are calling people gang members just because of some tattoo, that's also evil. They are criminals.
I agree that you don't want illegals in your country. However, you are just 'fixing' that by those methods. Is there even ONE employer who is in trouble for employing illegals? Right-wing employers are now crying on TV that all their employees were deported.
So they were illegally employing illegals. Why are those criminals not in jail?
Do you think not doing that fixes anything?
It will be TACO time again.
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ice is getting smart,even learning from old days.
Again, when are they going to crack down on the criminal employers?
They are literally admitting to crimes in the media.
Half your employees have fled or are deported? Show me your books!
but you won't lift a finger against the ones who use them to cheapen your labor?
Should their punishment only be that they finally have to pay people an honest wage, after exploiting a problem for years?
You wouldn't have illegals, if no one employed them!
If you don't lift a finger against these crooks, they learn nothing, and will find a way
to do it again, as soon as possible. Your wall won't prevent that, they'll fly them in,
if they have to. If they can scam the working class, they don't give a damn about
the color of your skin, where you're born or if you have some papers.
Never again tell me about the TWO TIERED JUSTICE SYSTEM! You support it.
the simple fact is the American people expect to high of a wage to be able to make a profit and that drives people to make rash decisions.
that is the real problem.
Would people then not let their roof done? Well, sleep in the rain then.
Meanwhile, all those roofers make more money, so they can go to a restaurant, that then also makes more money. Higher wages will increase some costs,
but they boost the economy.
I have ALWAYS supported equal justice. You're the one who doesn't want
to prosecute and punish criminals, because you like those criminals.
I only care about evidence and proportionality.
However, you can show me a hypocrite. Go ahead, present your case.
Mind the 'evidence and proportionality' though.
Do you know what drives people to make rash decisions?
Living in a country that has no jobs and is riddled with violence.
Still, you would punish people with life imprisonment for fleeing it.
this country is not riddled with violence and there are plenty of jobs, or we wouldn't have this illegal immigrant influx trying to steal these jobs. and they wouldn't feel any safer here than they did at home.
You are sending them to Alligator Auschwitz.
It's now rampant with diseases, that affect the guards too.
Because of the awful sanitary conditions, in the middle of a bug infested swamp,
before you accuse the illegals of carrying diseases again.
Those illegals are not stealing your jobs, the ones who employ them do.
Damn, your indoctrination is pushed down deep.
(I wasn't talking about the US, but the countries the immigrants come from)
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why the hell did they even approve medicaid for someone making 3800 a month for anyway??? it is supposed to be for poor people. she had no dependents,
You can design checks and balances to minimize it, but there are always a few
who find ways to gain the system.
Your story mostly checks out. One thing that the story is (possibly intentionally) unclear about is the total amount Medicaid actually paid out on her behalf during that period.
She didn't buy the Lamborghini with Medicaid money, she just receive some unknown figure in Medicaid benefits, that she wasn't entitled to. She did actually earn the money that she bought that car with, by operating multiple businesses, that generated over
$9.5 million in revenue. Instead of being outraged that she got some Medicaid benefits, better care about her paying taxes. Rich people can scam on their taxes to gain the system many times harder, than what she could ever take from Medicaid.
You're correct that she didn't have a right to any Medicaid benefits, because she isn't poor, but calling her 'Medicaid millionaire' that's creating an incorrect perception. You probably fell for their trick too.
Who said her benefits were approved on a $3800 a month salary?
She probably declared an incorrect salary to the tax authorities.
She would be find out by the IRS eventually, unless you defund it to shit.
Louisiana adopted Medicaid expansion under the Affordable Care Act, so the limit for most non-disabled adults is 138% of the Federal Poverty Level (FPL).
For 2025, the FPL for the 48 contiguous states is $15,060 per year for a single adult.
So 138% FPL = $20,783/year (≈ $1,732/month) for a single person.
Household examples:
2-person household: $28,207/year
3-person household: $35,630/year
4-person household: $43,054/year
Medicaid isn't charity, it's single payer healthcare. It would be the most efficient healthcare system, if everyone was on it.
By the way, she was CAUGHT, not by DOGE, but by state‐level investigators (LBI agents, part of the Attorney General’s office). She will probably be fined pretty severely.
Is this your argument that Medicaid should be destroyed?
What's the alternative? Everyone on private health insurance?
Have you ever investigated how much fraud is associate with that?
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The lawsuit, filed in the U.S. by the law firm Clare Locke, states that the Macrons attempted multiple times to engage Owens in dialogue and sent an official letter demanding retraction. Owens allegedly mocked the letter and continued making the claims to both U.S. and international audiences, which the lawsuit argues harmed the Macrons’ reputation worldwide.
The complaint describes Owens as deliberately dissecting the Macrons’ appearance, marriage, friends, family, and personal history to create a grotesque narrative that fueled relentless global bullying. It claims Owens knowingly spread falsehoods for personal fame and profit, particularly after leaving The Daily Wire and promoting her independent podcast. Owens’ large social media following — 6.9 million on X and 4.47 million on YouTube — amplified the harm.
The suit meticulously lists Owens’ statements, documents the Macrons’ attempts to stop them, and outlines the resulting damages, including harassment, public degradation, and harm to their standing as world leaders. It also highlights Owens’ personal financial gain from spreading the falsehoods, a key factor in defamation cases.
The case is being handled by Clare Locke, the same firm that secured the $800 million Dominion defamation settlement against Fox News. The Macrons themselves have previously won defamation suits, making them formidable plaintiffs in this case.
Good luck, Candace, you're going to need it.
it is funny it is a french person challenging this , i would have thought Big mike would have sued people by now about the videos of his bulge showing under the dress.
The claim of Candace Owens is that she has, or once had, a penis.
That's easy to DISprove, with one doctor's exam.
It's not politically expedient for the Obama's to engage in your stupidity, but it is for the Macrons. It's very good politics for the Macrons to destroy a horrible American grifter. Everyone in Europe would love to see it.
I'm sure that Ownens' lawyers will come up with lots of confusing nonsense,
like you are trying to do, but a judge deals in FACTS.
There is a lot to this case that could be difficult, but disproving the claim
of Candace Owens is the easiest part.
If Ownens' lawyers can't resist the opportunity to make this a spectacle around
the sex/gender debate, they will LOSE.
"Automatic 4% annual Medicare cuts starting in 2026 — driven by the statutory “PAYGO” rule, which enforces across-the-board reductions in response to the massive deficit increase.
Roughly $490 billion–$500 billion in cuts over the 2026–2034 period to Medicare spending.
The House Budget Committee also notes up to $535 billion in cumulative Medicare cuts during 2026–2034 ($45 billion in 2026 rising to $75 billion in 2034)"
The "massive deficit increase" is because of the big tax-cuts for the wealthy.
All the cuts are delayed, so you won't notice much, until Democrats are back in office.
Then Republicans can blame Democrats for your complete collapse of Medicare.
Exactly how they blamed Democrats for the high inflation that Trump caused by adding $8 trillion to your debt, which also all ended up in the pockets of the wealthy, eventually.
[When you pay companies to keep paying wages, that's a handout to the employers, not
the employees. When you pay people to be able to afford food and rent, that's a handout
to supermarkets and landlords, not to people. I remind you that it was a GLOBAL crisis
and that it's not an option to leave most working people without income, food and housing.
That would be a complete collapse of the country. You can chose to put that bill on the wealthy, or you can chose to compensate all the employers, supermarkets and landlords with tax-dollars. Trump of course chose the latter and that resulted in high inflation, which mostly hurt the working class. The working class is also the main tax-payer, so you're paying for it TWICE, to compensate for the debt. And now the working class is getting fucked over a THIRD time, because Trump promised the wealthy people more massive
tax-cults, so they would help him win/steal the election, which YOU have to pay for.]
for his win/steal. Trump only wanted to be president, so he could get out of jail
and continue enriching themself, on the tax-payer's credit.
Why does that look beautiful to you? YOU won't ever see a cent of those cuts.
It's literally socialism for the wealthy, reverse-RobinHood. You ain't wealthy!
You might be richer than most of your friends here, but this will hurt you too.
It's all worth it for you, as long as he hurts the brown people, isn't it?
But, you could try to be efficient. What do you think is wrong?
I could try to answer efficiently too, because reading isn't your thing either.
we also couldn't get any help to deal with the physical abuse she suffered by the staff, we would report it and it went unchecked.
it is fraud, now, take your brain and use it, if the nursing homes are leaving people needing trimmed nails ,that is abuse, criminal. then a nurse or supervisor signs off for a dr to do foot surgery, which he never did, that is fraud. the nurses trimmed the nails and got kick backs for signing the papers. this i know and it was all presented to medicare in dc, the reply was, " we don't have the staffing to enforce minor infractions. " i would send you pics of the paper work but it is locked in the safe and it would exspose to much private info.
You want to trade stories? My daughter's daughter, my first grandchild, is totally disabled. She needs constant care. She gets food through a tube in her stomach. As you can imagine, it has to be liquid AND have the whole nutritional value of regular people food. This formula comes from Germany. It costs $10,000/month. The special wheel chair she needs to support her spine cost over $5000 . The nurses and care tackers have to be paid at regular rates for specialized nurses. I don't even know how much that is. Her Dad couldn't take it and blew his brains out when she was 9. She turned 29 last July 1. Iv it wasn't for Medicaid she would be dead. So, Phart, lets compare notes.
more scrutiny when it comes to doling out taxpayer money is what is needed.
It's just not the billions that you say it is.
And Elon Musk and his gang haven't found ANY real fraud.
Where are all the lawsuits then, when he found ALL that fraud?
Your country already has audits of all your government agencies. They always find SOME waste, fraud and abuse, but where Elon was looking, those are some of the cleanest agencies you have.
In November 2022, the DoD failed its FIFTH consecutive audit, reportedly unable to account for 61% of its assets—amounting to roughly $2.1 trillion out of a $3.5 trillion total asset base.
It is 100% clear that there IS a lot of unaccounted money in your Department of Defense. Did Elon go there?
No, of course not, because Elon himself gets lots of money from the Department of Defense and he doesn't want any investigation on how he's spending that money.
Your social security system was audited in 2022 too:
SSA Financial Audits: “Unmodified Opinion”
The FY 2022 Agency Financial Report (AFR) marked the SSA’s 36th year producing audited financial statements and the 29th consecutive year receiving an unmodified opinion (meaning “clean” audit)
For Old‑Age, Survivors, and Disability Insurance (OASDI) from FY 2015–2022, only 0.84% of total benefit payments were improper, though this still amounted to $71.8 billion.
How much are they cutting Social Security?
A 2021 SSA OASDI accuracy review found:
99.3% case accuracy for overpayments, and
98.3% case accuracy for underpayments.
Dollar accuracy rates were similarly high: 99.4% for overpayments and 98.5% for underpayments.
Administrative costs in 2023 were about 0.5% of total benefits paid (roughly $7.2 billion expense against $1.38 trillion payout)
Related to Medicaid and Medicare.
Medicaid: ~$81 billion in improper payments
Medicare: ~$31.7 billion in improper payments
How much are they cutting again?
When you want to make systems more efficient, that takes a lot of effort.
You cannot just CUT waste fraud and abuse. That's primitive thinking.
and convictions? Do they let all those fraudsters just walk away?
Why is your administration not providing any evidence of fraud?
I've only seen some records that Elon posted, which were debunked in a day.
It only shows that Elon criminally intercepted contract approved payments.
He should be indicted for that, but of course he is protected.
The ones who protect Elon have all the reason to prosecute the fraudsters.
They fact that they are not doing that shows that it's ALL a lie.
ChatGPT: "Did DOGE find actual fraud, that is now getting indicted?"
🚨 Short Answer
No, as of now, DOGE has not uncovered documented fraud that resulted in criminal indictments. Despite its bold claims, investigative reporting and expert analysis suggest no verified cases where DOGE’s actions led to charges.
🗂️ What DOGE Claimed
DOGE promoted findings of “billions” in fraud, waste, and abuse, targeting government programs like Social Security, Medicaid, and IRS spending.
Their website tracked substantial savings—though many were later corrected or removed after journalists flagged errors.
DOGE also initiated an investigation into the SEC, calling for public input on alleged misconduct in the regulatory body.
🔍 Independent Reviews & Critiques
Independent audits have found that many DOGE “savings” claims were either grossly exaggerated or incorrect (like an $8 billion claim later shown to be $8 million).
Former DOGE employees and critics have stated publicly that true fraud investigations were rare or non-existent. One engineer noted most issues stemmed from software errors, not fraud.
Multiple Reddit threads feature users stating:
“DOGE has found ZERO documented cases of fraud. None.”
“Despite the hype, DOGE hasn't found a shred of fraud.”
⚖️ Legal & Governmental Actions
In March 2025, Pam Bondi (former Florida AG) announced that the DOJ would criminally investigate DOGE’s claims of fraud. However, no indictments or formal prosecutions have been reported.
Meanwhile, federal judges have blocked DOGE from accessing Social Security and Treasury systems, labeling its approach a “fishing expedition” and questioning the lack of supporting evidence.
📋 Summary Table
Aspect What Actually Happened
DOGE claimed to find fraud Yes — but evidence was not verified
Reported “savings” and discrepancies Many claims retracted or significantly reduced
Classified cases referred to DOJ Some referrals (e.g. voter-roll matches), but no known indictments
Independent auditor stance Most findings considered debatable or exaggerated
Lawsuits / court pushback Judges blocked access; critics called DOGE’s methodology flawed
✅ Final Note
To date, DOGE has not produced any verified cases of fraud that have led to criminal charges. The majority of its high-profile claims have been debunked or discredited after scrutiny, and there are no confirmed indictments based on DOGE’s investigations.
“The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is the most pro-worker, pro-family, and pro-America legislation we’ve seen in decades. It means bigger paychecks for middle class families, stronger borders, a stronger military, and more freedom for every North Carolinian. I’m proud to help steer this fight, and under President Trump’s leadership, we’re just getting started.”
Wages are up by $5,500-$10,500
Take-Home Pay up by $7,200-$12,200
NO TAXES on TIPS or OVERTIME
Support for our farmers, veterans, and rural broadband
Made-in-America manufacturing incentives for NC job creators
What’s Actually in the One Big Beautiful Bill?
DELIVERS HISTORIC ECONOMIC RELIEF:
Prevents the largest tax increase in American history
Secures bigger paychecks, boosting the take-home pay for hardworking typical families by OVER $10,000 a year.
Historic tax relief for workers with a 15% average tax cut for Americans earning $15,000–$80,000.
No Taxes on Tips and No Taxes on Overtime
Made-in-America Auto Tax Breaks on new American-made vehicles.
Increases the standard deduction, ensuring North Carolinians keep more of their hard-earned money.
PUTS MAIN STREET OVER WALL STREET:
Doubles small business expensing, helping local businesses hire more workers and expand their operations.
Permanently renews and strengthens Opportunity Zones, unlocking $100B+ of investment and 1+ million jobs for rural and distressed communities.
Incentivizes Made-in-America manufacturing with full expensing for new factories and upgrades— unleashing investments in rapid factory building.
DESIGNED WITH FAMILIES IN MIND:
Increases and makes permanent the Child Tax Credit, supporting over 40 million families.
Expands childcare access and makes the paid leave tax credit permanent.
Creates Trump Savings Accounts for newborns.
Delivers school choice, making education more affordable and allowing families to choose the education that best fits their child’s needs.
INVESTS IN RURAL AMERICA:
Expands crop insurance and improves risk management tools.
Boosts market access by reducing trade barriers to help North Carolina farmers compete globally.
Supports family farms by raising the death tax exemption—protecting two million family farms from punitive double taxation.
RESTORES FISCAL SANITY:
Slashes deficits by roughly $2 trillion — and secures historic levels of mandatory savings.
Protects taxpayer dollars by removing waste, fraud, and abuse from federal programs, so they can better serve the great people of North Carolina
KEEPS AMERICA SAFE:
Funds the Golden Dome missile defense system to protect our homeland from 21st-century threats.
Ensures our military has the resources to remain ready, capable, and a lethal fighting force.
Secures our coast with the biggest upgrade to the Coast Guard since World War II — delivering the tools needed to stop illegal activity by sea and fight fentanyl smuggling.
MODERNIZES AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL:
$12.5 billion to overhaul air traffic control, replacing obsolete technology dating back to the 1960s with modern systems that improve safety, speed, and efficiency.
Replaces FAA’s deteriorating towers and radar systems and upgrades telecommunications.
Addresses the staffing shortage and funds FAA training and recruitment.
PERMANENTLY SECURES OUR BORDERS:
Delivers President Trump’s law-and-order agenda: deporting criminal illegal aliens, securing our border, and supporting law enforcement.
Supports our Border Patrol and ICE agents with a $10,000 bonus annually over the next four years. Also delivers needed reinforcements — hiring 10,000 new ICE personnel, 5,000 new Customs officers, and 3,000 new Border Patrol agents.
Finishes the border wall.
UNLEASHES AMERICAN ENERGY DOMINANCE:
Ends weaponization of permitting and unlocks domestic oil, gas, and nuclear power.
Unleashes American energy, driving down the cost of living and restoring energy independence.
Rescinds BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars poured into the 'Green New SCAM,' ending handouts to special interests and radical climate activists.
Refills our Strategic Petroleum Reserve after the Biden Administration depleted our emergency supply. Energy security is national security.
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WOW!!
did you read that??
updates to our aged air traffic control system.
saves the family farm while it is passed down to each new generation,
makes school choice more affordable,
wow so many good things.
why do dems always focus on the bad>?
This is a **promotional summary** of the *One Big Beautiful Bill Act* from a pro-Trump or Republican-aligned source. It emphasizes the **benefits** and **talking points**, often using **best-case projections**, while omitting or minimizing the bill’s **cuts to social safety nets, healthcare, and clean energy**.
Here’s a **breakdown** of what’s **fact**, what’s **spin**, and what’s **missing**, based on independent analysis:
🔍 **CLAIMS VS. REALITY**
🧾 CLAIM: *"Wages up by $5,500–$10,500; Take-home pay up by $7,200–$12,200"*
**Spin**: These are *projections* based on tax cuts and hypothetical wage growth. They **don’t reflect guaranteed raises**—they assume trickle-down from corporate tax incentives.
* **Reality**: Independent estimates show modest average tax savings for middle-income earners (~$1,200–$1,800/year), while **high earners** gain much more.
* **Meanwhile**, these savings are offset by **cuts to Medicaid, SNAP, and public services** many families rely on.
💰 CLAIM: *"No Taxes on Tips and Overtime"*
**Partially True**: The bill **exempts tip income and overtime wages** from federal income tax—but **not from payroll taxes** (like Social Security/Medicare).
**Benefit**: Good for tipped workers and those in gig/hospitality industries.
**Caveat**: Critics argue this creates complexity and encourages underreporting.
🧒 CLAIM: *"Expands Child Tax Credit; Supports 40M Families"*
**Half-true**: The Child Tax Credit is increased and made permanent, but **not fully refundable** like in the 2021 American Rescue Plan.
* So **poorer families may get less or nothing** unless they have taxable income—unlike under Biden’s expanded version.
🧺 CLAIM: *"Slashes Deficits by $2 Trillion"*
**False by most neutral estimates**: The bill **increases** the federal deficit by **$3.4 trillion over 10 years**, mainly due to permanent tax cuts for individuals and corporations ([CRFB](https://www.crfb.org/)).
🌽 CLAIM: *"Supports Farmers; Raises Death Tax Exemption"*
**True, but skewed**: Increasing the estate tax exemption helps **very wealthy landowners**, not most small farmers (only about 0.1% of estates were taxed under prior law).
* Crop insurance/rural support may help, but **Medicaid cuts hurt rural hospitals and elderly care**—a major concern in red states.
🔨 CLAIM: *"Massive manufacturing and small business tax relief"*
**Partly true**: The bill includes **expensing for capital investment**, lower corporate tax rates, and extended Opportunity Zones.
* Critics argue this **overwhelmingly favors large firms and developers**, with little oversight.
🌎 CLAIM: *"Ends Green New Scam; unleashes energy"*
**Very partisan framing**. The bill:
* **Repeals EV tax credits**
* Cuts **wind, solar, energy efficiency credits**
* **Prioritizes oil, gas, coal**, and **nuclear** production
* It **rescinds climate spending** from the Inflation Reduction Act, which was helping transition rural areas to cheaper renewable sources.
⚔️ CLAIM: *"Boosts ICE, Border Patrol, Coast Guard"*
**True**: Massive new funding—$10,000 annual bonuses, **10,000 new ICE agents**, and finishing the wall.
* This is a **central part** of the bill and appeals to immigration hawks.
* Critics argue it's **militarized overreach**, with limited effect on fentanyl (which mostly comes through legal ports).
🚨 WHAT’S MISSING
1. **Cuts to Medicaid & SNAP**
* Over **$1 trillion** in combined cuts.
* Work requirements, reduced eligibility, and state funding burdens.
2. **Defunding of Clean Energy and Climate Programs**
* Bill rolls back **Biden-era climate legislation**.
* Long-term cost: delays clean energy transition, likely increases emissions.
3. **Impact on Poor & Disabled Americans**
* Work requirements could push **millions off aid**, including seniors, disabled, and caregivers.
* **Rural hospitals**, especially in red states, face funding losses.
4. **Long-term Cost to Deficit**
* While marketed as “fiscally sane,” independent economists say the bill will **add over $3 trillion** to the national debt.
🧾 FINAL VERDICT
**Category** | **Verdict** -------------------------- | -------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
**Tax Cuts for Workers** | Mostly true, but benefits **skew to upper-middle class and wealthy** |
**Support for Families** | Partly true, but **excludes lowest-income households** |
**Rural and Farm Support** | Partly true, **estate tax changes help rich farmers more than small ones** |
**Border & Military** | Accurate—**major investments and personnel increases** |
**Fiscal Responsibility** | **False** — deficit likely to rise significantly |
**Energy & Environment** | **True but partisan framing** — major rollback of clean-energy investments |
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It's all skewed to the middle class and the wealthy.
Did they have problems paying for groceries?
all i see is cuts to programs that are blotted and defrauded constantly.
women get pregnant, get a low income house on the governments dime, baby daddy gets job at ups warehouse, both drive cadillacs. this happened in 1999 and was witnessed by myself and 3 other people i know. once reported, the woman was booted out of the government housing.
You cannot cut SNAP, without it hurting the poor.
It's bullshit propaganda that all those programs are bloated and fraudulent.
You think feeding the poor is waste by definition, but those programs are doing
what they are designed to do, pretty efficiently, and people rely on them.
“The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is the most pro-worker, pro-family, and pro-America legislation we’ve seen in decades. It means bigger paychecks for middle class families, stronger borders, a stronger military, and more freedom for every North Carolinian. I’m proud to help steer this fight, and under President Trump’s leadership, we’re just getting started.”
Wages are up by $5,500-$10,500
Take-Home Pay up by $7,200-$12,200
NO TAXES on TIPS or OVERTIME
Support for our farmers, veterans, and rural broadband
Made-in-America manufacturing incentives for NC job creators
All this within hours of the Clown signing this disaster in the making.
not the opposite, in the "big beautiful bill".
About 60-72% of the total tax relief is going to the top 20%.
The top 5% gets about 45% of the total tax relief.
The top 1% will get about $600 billion in tax-cuts over a decade.
It's impossible to do that, without it affecting the rest of you.
Since most of the tax-cuts are unaccounted for, it adds $3-4 billion to the debt by 2034.
That will increase inflation for those people who already cannot afford groceries.
Trump is doing what you accused Biden of doing AGAIN.
And he isn't doing it with investments into your economy, like Biden did,
he is doing it to reward his wealthy donors.
Here’s a URL that agrees with some of the stuff you said and much that you didn’t say.
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the gals that keep me fed at the local grill don't make over 25,000 in tips per year. so they would never be paying taxes on tips.
that would help them alot by increasing their bring home from tips by about 18% would it not?
We all know that 'if' Trump cured cancer, he would still be demonized.
Nobel peace prize for Trump. Accomplished more in 5 months than mr dementia did in 4 years.
Sorry for the last remark, I do not think mr dementia made any improving accomplishments. Just anything to help take down America.
Sorry for the rant.
NOW I ASK AGAIN: If you want to destroy America and American values what would you do different than that feeble old excuse of a 'MAN' we had for four catastrophic years?
I know the fucking word 'existential' means something, just not what the looney left was and is pushing.
Side with the loons, then live with the loons.
She has lots of dirt on Trump, so she's blackmailing him.
Epstein and Maxwell had a MULTI-BILLION dollar enterprise
pimping out under@ge prostitute/sex-slaves to billionaires.
Epstein and Trump have been best friends for years.
There is lots of public evidence and testimonials against Trump.
Not just Trump, but also against his first wife Ivana.
One of Epstein's victims, Maria Farmer, claims that Ivana Trump
was also good friends with Ghislaine Maxwell, and she witnessed them
hunting for new victims for Epstein.
They would cruise schools together, for pretty young girls in school uniforms.
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Trump is obviously burying the Epstein files, because there's at the very least
the testimony of Maria Farmer, pictures from Trump and half naked girls from
Epstein's vault, but likely even financial records linking Trump and Epstein.
Trump has been a filthy sexual predator all his life and you know it.
At least you deny it. How evil would your side be, if you just accepted it?
i would be hard pressed to trust a photo that suddenly appeared out of nowwhere now.
The age of photos can be quite accurately be determined.
There are still ways to show new fake photos to be fake. They are not perfect.
That you fall for the clearest fakes doesn't make them undetectable.
If those photos appeared, they would come from the possession of the FBI,
because they confiscated all evidence from Epstein.
Besides, there is a shit-ton more evidence on Trump's friendship with Epstein
than just photos. Ever heard of his little black address book?
Donald Trump’s Name Appears
His name is listed along with multiple phone numbers, including:
- His business numbers
- Mar-a-Lago
- Trump Organization contacts
- Trump Family and Associates Listed
Other Trump-linked names appear:
- Ivana Trump
- Ivanka Trump
- Eric Trump
- Alan Garten (Trump Org. lawyer)
Trump’s staff and Mar-a-Lago contacts are also included.
There is also evidence linking Epstein to Mar-a-Lago.
Virginia Giuffre (then Virginia Roberts) has testified in multiple legal proceedings that
she was working as a spa attendant at Mar-a-Lago when she met Ghislaine Maxwell.
If Trump wasn't worried about Ghislaine Maxwell having dirt, she couldn't use it.
And if the case wasn't damning for Trump, he wouldn't have it buried like this.
He is also desperately trying to distract everyone from it.
In any case, at least you deny it. I don't know if you cannot admit it to yourself
or you just don't want to admit it to others, but it would be worse if you owned it
and then STILL supported the guy.
And how do you like the following?:
The administration’s FY 2026 budget proposal includes a $646 million cut to FEMA.
It also imposed a freeze of approximately $3.6 billion in unspent FEMA funds.
FEMA has undergone a cut of roughly 20% of its workforce.
Weather forecasting funding at NOAA was cut by $150 million.
phart just accused Bill Gates of
"taking our tax money and sending it so far away it can't help our own citizens in need."
Here is a clear example of Trump taking your tax money far away from helping your own citizens in need.
Well, at least he's cutting taxes for Bill Gates. So some of your money will still go
to poor people, for food and HIV medicine.
in other words, countys didn't cover their bases but it is so easy for you to blame Trump because he cut wasteful spending.
but use some common sense.in 1 area the water rose 26 feet in 45 minutes. there is not much of a warning system that would help in that situation.
There is ZERO evidence of any significant wasteful spending, unless you call every dollar spent to help people a waste.
You need good weather forecasting to predict water rising 26 feet in 45 minutes.
They can literally not do as good as a job as before, because of Trump's cuts.
However, I can predict that, without a doubt, far worse floods will happen, more often,
and you will need FEMA to have much more money, if you want to minimize the damage and human suffering.
you obviously never dealt with fema.
Can you afford EVERY STATE, to be ready for EVERY CATASTROPHE?
Why have it divided by state's borders? Why not every city?
It's just a nonsense argument, to cut spending for citizens in need.
How about the unlucky states? Many of them are red states, by the way. They would be held back a lot from that necessity. That doesn't just affect those states, that puts a break on the economy of the US as a whole.
Cooperation is always favorable to everyone as a whole. In economy 1 + 1 = 3.
Likewise, when I see people in need, I also want the whole world to help.
That's, sympathy / empathy, but also just reciprocity.
We don't have much control over luck / bad luck in the world, but we do
have control over how we treat (other) people, who are dealt a bad hand.
However, I understand that there is no unlimited pool of money,
so I support a system that uses the money most efficiently.
I think that's always a system that shares the risk with the biggest group.
It's like with insurances; you share the risk with other people,
instead setting aside money personally, for when something happens.
Almost no one can set aside enough money for a new house, when it burns down,
so you share the risk with a million or more other people.
Still, an insurance company could go bankrupt, if it only insured one city,
and there was a big fire burning down a lot of houses.
That's why you want to share the risk with as many people as possible.
The one thing that limits the size of the group is solidarity. People need
to feel some empathy for others in the group that they share the risk with.
They don't want to pay for people that they don't care about. They forget
that it's beneficial for everyone to maximize the size of the group, as soon
as people that they don't feel empathy towards are helped by the system.
That's what you see happening with FEMA.
here is a ai search result,
"Yes, some Florida homes have been rebuilt multiple times with FEMA assistance due to repeated flooding. This is partly due to the "50% rule" in flood zones, which requires homes with damage exceeding half the structure's value to be rebuilt to current standards, often involving elevation. While this rule aims to reduce future flood damage and costs to taxpayers, it can lead to a cycle of rebuilding for some homeowners"
50% of value, rebuilt multilabel times, is the same as rebuilding the house from ground up money wise. why keep putting the house in the same low spot to flood again?that is waste,put the house on high ground or redesign it to be more durable in the storm
each state knows it's problem areas.
each county knows it's problem areas. we have flood ways here that we can't even put up a mail box in without getting bitched at by the county.let alone a house.
there are so many issues with fema,it needs to at minimum be revamped from the ground up. and audited regularly.by someone besides it's self.
Do they get any money from Trump to organize their own
Emergency Management, like FEMA, but on a state level?
If not, all those states need to significantly raise state taxes.
When have you last seen Republicans create anything?
They can only brake things.
Fatalities: 37 people lost their lives across the state.
Damage: Estimated at $7 billion, with agriculture and timber alone accounting for approximately $5.5 billion in losses.
Does Georgia now have to "step up to the plate" to prepare for hurricanes?
Georgia averages one direct hurricane landfall every 10–15 years.
Climate change will probably increase their risk, but their risk of crippling hurricane damage is much lower than other states.
Do they now have to prepare for hurricanes, a 1 in 50 year event, for them?
Don't you understand how INEFFICIENT that is?
Didn't you want to reduce WASTE?
You lot want to eliminate waste, but you have no idea what waste is.
i want to see the feds simply hand over the money to the states to use as they see the need.
feds can't manage a whore house, much less storm damage.
They are not going to give that money to the states, they are only cutting it
to reduce the deficit they created to cut taxes for the wealthy.
People can suffer, so the billionaires can become trillionaires.
meanwhile, i put the tv near the screen door so i could stand out in the yard and look up and also see the radar scan.
i watched both and it did not even rain when the supposed tornado was going over my house.
nothing.
far as i am concerned the weather man is the only man that can lie on his job and still keep it.
Tornadoes are a very localized phenomenon. They can completely destroy
half a village and leave the other half completely intact.
This is the Annual Tornado Damage in the US:
Property Damage: $1.1–2 billion per year
Crop Damage: ~$100 million annually (varies)
Deaths: ~70 per year (historical average)
Injuries: ~1,500 per year
Are you denying that? Are you saying that all the victims are lying?
The past few days, our weather forecasters were raising the alarm (yellow and orange warnings) for thunderstorms in many parts of the country. We were anticipating at least heavy rain and some thunder, but we have seen only a small shower. I didn't even close the doors and windows. If I didn't understand weather, I would maybe start to accuse the Royal Netherlands Meteorological Institute (KNMI) of lying.
Instead, I watched the news and saw that parts of the Netherlands, mostly in the northern regions, experienced severe thunderstorms and storms that caused notable damage, including flooding and downed trees. This matched the earlier code orange alerts issued by forecasters. I understand that weather is LOCAL.
I'm not denying that shit happens, just because it didn't happen to ME.
How far removed are you, from becoming a loon like this one?
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He thinks weather radar is for controlling weather, instead of predicting it.
the National Education Association Charter Repeal Act. The NEA was chartered by Congress in 1906 to champion America’s teachers and improve our schools, but it has spiraled into a partisan machine that’s more about radical ideology and toxic propaganda than education.
It's true that they don't like your ideology, but that's their job.
Their job is to defend history, science and critical thinking.
YOUR SIDE is the propaganda pushing side.
You want your propaganda pushed on children unrestricted.
It's what happened in 1933 Germany too.
The Democrat Party was the lifeblood of slavery, the KKK, and Jim Crow. The Klan was the armed militant apparatus of the Democrats. In contrast, the Republican Party was founded a few years before the Civil War for the sole purpose of uniting the anti-slave movement under a single political coalition.
with that being copied and pasted, let's see where that takes us
The argument,
"Without slaves, who will pick our crops?" was a common concern raised by proponents of slavery, particularly Southern plantation owners, during the debate over abolition in the 19th century. This argument highlighted the economic dependency of the Southern agricultural system on enslaved labor, especially for cash crops like cotton and tobacco.
so here in modern times our own Cat and Ananas are asking who will pick our crops without the illegal immigrants
does any of this sound similar to you folks?
and by the way, southern plantation owners were democrats
so there is no wonder now if you do some research, why democrats are so hell bent on immigrant labor.
10 kids found working at the pot farm in california, owned by a guy that donated alot to the govenor newsome. um>>????
here is some history to read, read about the democrats stealing land from mexico and our native indians.
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for their own protection.
We talked about the history of the Democrats and the Republicans before.
The Republican Party was once the more liberal party, especially on slavery and civil rights in the 19th century. Over time—particularly during the 20th-century civil rights movement—both parties experienced a shift in their ideological bases, leading to the modern alignment where Republicans are generally conservative and Democrats are generally liberal.
It's not the name of the party that is associated with racism or the support for slavery, it's the ideology. Liberals have always supported equal rights and freedom, conservatives don't care about equality and only pretend to care about freedom, while they still support wage slavery. You yourself think people deserve nothing besides what they work for and even 40 hrs/per week should get you the basics for survival. It's only the happy few that deserve ridiculous wealth, because you think they are super-human.
I have NEVER supported the exploitation of illegals, I want to crack down on employers who do that. I'll allow legal immigrant labor, under a license system, but with all the same rights and rewards that natural born citizens get. I have warned you that you allowed your economy to become dependent on illegals, and you're hurting yourself, while you are hurting them. That's a whole different issue than supporting illegal migration. The common sense solution would be to legalize the lot of them, except for the true violent criminals. Don't lie that Trump is doing that.
And people who don't know how things changed, will show their ignorance,
by linking the current Democratic party with support for slavery,
while the Democrats back then were the conservatives from the South,
who are now ALL in the Republican party.
It's good if you don't want to be associated with slavery,
but then also not try to justify slavery, as your ilk often does.
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folks like you don't care if coal miners are put out of work. you just say they can retrain for another job no big deal right?
so those working in the tourist industry, they can just retrain for another job, no big deal.
sad to feel that way but that is using liberal logic
The difference between the coal miners and the tourist industry is the following:
- New energy brings much more, much healthier and better paying jobs, than the job of coal miner. In total that shift is positive for society.
- The collapse of the tourist industry is not replaced by anything. It's just a loss of your GDP, which isn't compensated by anything else. There are no other jobs coming in its place.
However, you won't have a shortage of jobs, because of all the migrant workers you are putting in a concentration camp. Your tourist workers just shouldn't be picky, because those jobs aren't much fun. That's why you had those migrant workers for them.
so is john kerry going to be the proverbial "uncle tom" of the democrats now that he admits to agreeing with Trump on a issue??
'News'MAX: "Look over there, a squirrel!!"
there is no hope for liberals, they can't be shown the facts and it do any good.
All the Democrats were shouting from the rooftops "PROTECT OUR BORDER!!!".
You are all living in an alternate reality and even Kerry is affected by it.
Kerry is correct that Democrats couldn't get their message out successfully, but he's wrong in saying “He was right. The problem is—we all should have been right. Everybody should have been right, doing the same thing, all moving in the same direction.”. Democrats SHOULD NOT move into the direction of eliminating due process.
One Democrat saying something that you like, is a squirrel.
Here is ONE pastor saying something that most Democratic voters agree on,
while most other pastors are saying the exact opposite. Is he now on CNN,
as an example of the other side, to argue: "We must be right, because this single person from the other side says that we are right on this issue!"?
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I'm sure that CNN does that sometimes, but it means NOTHING to ME.
There is someone from the group that is wrong about everything,
agreeing with my point on something? "OK, you're welcome. Is it just this?"
"I don't need you to agree with me, to know I'm right. I have ARGUMENTS!"
if bill gates is so damn concerned about world health, he can spend his own money to fix it instead of taking our tax money and sending it so far away it can't help our own citizens in need.
he already sends a lot of his money over seas, that's well and good,it's his to send, i just don't approve of him wanting to send my money over there.
The US was doing that too. That was actually a good thing you did.
Why do you think that Bill Gates had any part in your tax-dollars going "far away"?
The US stopping that, especially so abruptly is incredibly damaging.
Using your money like that is called 'soft power', it's to your own advantage.
Why do you talk about helping your own citizens in need?
You don't want to. You prefer to help the billionaires, who don't need it.
watch the simulation at the very end and it will make it very clear how lucky Trump is to be alive. i know it would have brought great pleasure to cat and others had he not turned his head but it saved our country.
However, I cannot decide what's worse, Trump continuing to destroy your country,
adding chaos to the world and deciding to accelerate climate change, or him dying
that day and giving MAGA a martyr.
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belong to the “white race”. Ever heard of it?
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Google "George Shishim" if you want to know more.
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you are so mad at Trump for bombing a few nuclear labs but yet 1 of your heros dropped a bunch of bombs.
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"If Andrew Cuomo thinks that makes me less of a Jew,
that's just one more reason why he's unfit to represent us."
ok so this guy takes all of what jeff bezo's is worth and divides it amoung all of us Americans. we would get a whopping 730 bucks each.
that would really fix the world wouldn't it? yea right.
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Isn't that ridiculous?
Half of American adults have $500 or less in their savings account,
but this ONE asshole has MUCH more than ALL OF THEM COMBINED.
The fact that you think that's normal shows your brainwashing.
Liberal globalization refers to the process of increasing global interconnectedness driven by the principles of economic liberalism, democracy, and multilateralism. It's characterized by the promotion of free trade, open markets, and the establishment of international institutions to facilitate cooperation and manage global challenges
in other words, a 1 world government. sad that it takes Putin to bring this up, no one will listen to him since he is considered the enemy ,but we as Americans would be so much better off if we minded our own damn country and it's needs first
ah those food stamps, another freebie folks that don't need them is taking advantage of.
It's only all the OTHERS who are dirty profiteers, but you and your friends deserve it, because you were working hard all your life, or you had a lot of bad luck, or whatever. It's always OK for you, but all the others are lazy fucks.
I'm trying to change your thinking on that. Your government is not of the habit of giving "freebies". Take what they offer, because you either are ENTITLED to it or you NEED it, just like EVERYONE ELSE. Don't throw away Medicaid and Social Security for the LIE that some people are abusing it. You're fucking the 99+% of people who don't.
Don't be a TOOL for the wealthy who don't grant you these basics of modern civilization, so they can have even more money.
Cherish the tiny bit of social safety net that you still have in your godforsaken country. It's important for people's survival. It helps them maximize their potential. Bums in boxes are useless. Also, it might be you in that box, or someone you care about.
Don't assume you are safe, just because you worked hard all your life.
How different your tune is, than when you just voted for Trump. People were suffering from the high inflation and they couldn't buy groceries, remember. Now that Trump is crushing all those people to pulp, you're back to not giving a fuck. Very strange!
COVID set us back didn’t help either, because now there are men and women of various ages that have been able to stay home and receive government assistance.
at home, in the kitchen. Now they want them to work? I don't think so.
That effect of Covid was very short-lived. There is no government assistance anymore. However, there is still a remaining labor shortage. There are about 1.7 million missing workers. Some of them just died. Another big group is suffering from long covid. "Reduced Workforce Participation: An estimated 2 to 4 million working-age Americans have been unable to work due to long COVID, either temporarily or permanently."
Some young people stayed in school longer. When they started an education, it takes several years to finish it. There are indeed women who do not return to their job, because they are mothers now. Personally, I think that mothers and fathers need to share the working life, but I don't think both should work a full-time job. Parents should be able to provide for their children with at maximum 60 hrs/week total.
I’ve worked hard my entire life and in most of my years, there wasn’t just one job, I worked two jobs. Last year I jumped out of retirement to be a caregiver. There are jobs to be had by those that are motivated to do more than leach off of society.
Your last sentence in your last paragraph of your post,
"There are jobs to be had by those that are motivated to do more than leach off of society."
says it all. You either don't see or choose to ignore the needy who have no way to improve their lot in life. I'm glad you are healthy enough to work again, but, let's be real, most people that have to take help from the government are healthy enough to work and they already do.
And, BTW, leaches come in all forms for many reasons. But, they are not the norm.
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Was he a comedian or a damn prophet?
I rarely choose to use vulgar language however that amount deserves a what the fuck can you buy/ how far can $23.00 at the grocery store? Geez Louise! On Sunday, after CHURCH, I stopped at a nearby Spartan market because I wanted some fruit, specifically I wanted apples. Spartan markets identify their house brand by the name of “OUR FAMILY”. I looked at a 3lb bag of Honey Crisp apples that were priced at $9.99. I asked a nearby grocery clerk whether that sign was accurate and she confirmed that it was. Can you believe it? A jaw dropping $3.33 per pound for Honey Crisp apples so I grabbed a 3lb bag of Fuji that was only $4.99!
Back to what $23.00 might buy at the local store, eggs aren’t as expensive as when I WHINED about them in Florida…. I can buy eggs at Kroger for under $3.00, actually they were $2.79 per dozen (I can’t afford organic cage free eggs). So yesterday I bought eggs at $2.79, a 3 pack of Romaine lettuce hearts ($3.99), a bottle of Kraft Salad Dressing on sale for $2.49, a generic $5.00 bag of lunch meat that was tagged as “oven roasted turkey”*, one can of Simple Truth organic Garbanzo beans ($1.25), Fairlife Ultra-Filtered lactose free low-fat milk (52 oz/$5.69)** and a I suspect you might be able to get a bag of white rice, too.
I spent slightly less than $22.00 yesterday and as you see, $23.00 doesn’t go far in Michigan! Would yesterday’s haul feed me for a month until my next $23.00 comes? Hell, NO!
* the generic bag of oven roasted turkey was packaged in a Kroger deli bag as if it was sliced and packaged upon request that morning. It tasted okay once I washed all the salt taste off of it. It definitely is not as tasty as Boar’s Head turkey that is $12.49 per lb.
** Fairlife Ultra-filtered milk priced at $5.69 for 52oz (12oz LESS THAN the standard 1/2 gallon) I’ve been buying this milk because it has a shelf life of 2 months. I am able to consume it all, there’s no spoilage, well worth the extra money I spend!
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Also, it's very obvious you were never a mom. Not even close.
What state does the single mother of one live because that has some bearing on whatever it is you’re trying paint. Effective February 21, 2025, minimum wage in Michigan was set at $12.48. Per Google; “ The current minimum wage in Florida is $13.00 per hour, according to the U.S. Department of Labor. This rate applies to all workers in the state, including those in tipped positions, though tipped employees may be paid a lower direct wage with tips making up the difference. The minimum wage is scheduled to increase to $15.00 per hour by September 30, 2026, with annual increases of $1.00 until then according to the U.S. Department of Labor. ” YOU’RE WELCOME!
The way I see things is that there are a good deal of young people that want what their parent(s) have which they, the parent(s) worked years to acquire. GET REAL! There’s going to be years of peanut butter and jelly (if you can afford the jelly) , Kraft Macaroni & Cheese, store brand generic corn flakes instead of Cap’n Crunch, a plastic bag with unpopped popcorn as a treat instead of Doritos or Lays Potato Chips, Kool-Aid instead of Coca Cola. Life is all about making choices.
And as for being a single mother with one child that only works 32 hours per week, she better consider getting a second job. Furthermore, she should have given thought to her circumstances before deciding to bring a child into the world. How much responsibility do I have, as a taxpayer, to provide woman or man with “luxuries” that I cannot even justify for myself.
By the way, did you notice that Florida’s minimum wage of $13.00 includes those in tipped positions? When I return to Florida in October of November, maybe I will look for a 20 hour per week job tending bar or waitressing. I was a darn good “bartendress” back in the day. In my 37 year career working for a major healthcare provider I always maintained a second job. My primary job took care of my obligations, my second job was the “frosting on the cake”. Yeah, the second job provided me the extras. Yep, I have a decent stock portfolio, a waterfront home in Michigan, a place in Florida for the winter…. Life is all making choices.
Bella, I didn't want to have this apology get buried in the other part of the chat. I'll respond to the rest sometime later.
Where my concerns are are with the elderly, some not aware OR TOO PROUD to explore programs that help ease some of the financial burden with food, medicine, etc.. In my town/county there is a program that provides voucher(s) to seniors for fresh fruits, vegetables and eggs. I qualify based on my age however I am “proud” and feel that I can comfortably buy the things that I want and need. Am I going to complain about Honey Crisp apples being $9.99 for a 3lb bag? Heck YES!
By the way, thank you for the apology, that was very kind of you.
But even if you didn't work for 37+ years, those programs serve a need.
Americans are the hardest working people on the planet.
Cut your fellow Americans some slack.
I feel that the system is geared to provide the same number of programs and amenities to the dead beats as it is to ME, a hard working contributor and that is unfortunate .
If they fail in life, I don't want to have any blame for that.
Then there are lots of people who are just not smart and completely lacking of talent. Look at how stupid the average person is and then realize that 50% is stupider than them. About a quarter is not capable of surviving this modern world. Do we just give up on them? I say that would be a waste of potential. They can pull their weight,
if we help them a bit. It's for our own benefit as much as theirs.
I don't think it's unfortunate that a contributor like me is not getting the same as someone who under-performs. The whole intent is to help the ones who need it.
I don't need anything anymore, but society helped me get to where I am.
Save it for the people who need it, so we help them contribute too. Also, I was lucky so far, but everyone is at risk of their luck running out. When it does, I want society to help me out, just as I want to help out everyone who is shit out of luck now.
Don't think this is all sympathy for poor people. It's mostly selfish. I want to live
in a nice world. You are just extras. I want you to be cheerful in my movie of life, because I don't like dramas.
The Trumps and the Vances and the Dgraffs and the Bellas, can believe what they want. I know, yes, I know, better.
Do I think that dgraff is “milking the system”, no, I think he is participating in programs that he is eligible and qualifies for.
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It is paid for through our taxes though but it's a hell of a lot better to know if you have a serious medical issue you are not going to have to sell your house to get through it.
there are so many fat women out there that give pussy to anything that is male so they can have baby after baby and get a bigger check each month. it's not rare it is common. that needs to be fixed. overseas, you may not see it because it would ruin the propaganda you are fed there.
mothers should want to be there for their kids,even if it does mean they can't carry the latest iphone or guchi bag. it is their natural role in the human race to care for the young.