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 | Your views, thoughts or simply opinions. The Economy is not well (understatement). I know there are some here that will try to link the country they are residing in as problems of the USA. Sorry the USA cannot be responsible for 100% of the problems in the world nor should they be expected to help repair all problems. |
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"Automatic 4% annual Medicare cuts starting in 2026 — driven by the statutory “PAYGO” rule, which enforces across-the-board reductions in response to the massive deficit increase.
Roughly $490 billion–$500 billion in cuts over the 2026–2034 period to Medicare spending.
The House Budget Committee also notes up to $535 billion in cumulative Medicare cuts during 2026–2034 ($45 billion in 2026 rising to $75 billion in 2034)"
The "massive deficit increase" is because of the big tax-cuts for the wealthy.
All the cuts are delayed, so you won't notice much, until Democrats are back in office.
Then Republicans can blame Democrats for your complete collapse of Medicare.
Exactly how they blamed Democrats for the high inflation that Trump caused by adding $8 trillion to your debt, which also all ended up in the pockets of the wealthy, eventually.
[When you pay companies to keep paying wages, that's a handout to the employers, not
the employees. When you pay people to be able to afford food and rent, that's a handout
to supermarkets and landlords, not to people. I remind you that it was a GLOBAL crisis
and that it's not an option to leave most working people without income, food and housing.
That would be a complete collapse of the country. You can chose to put that bill on the wealthy, or you can chose to compensate all the employers, supermarkets and landlords with tax-dollars. Trump of course chose the latter and that resulted in high inflation, which mostly hurt the working class. The working class is also the main tax-payer, so you're paying for it TWICE, to compensate for the debt. And now the working class is getting fucked over a THIRD time, because Trump promised the wealthy people more massive
tax-cults, so they would help him win/steal the election, which YOU have to pay for.]
for his win/steal. Trump only wanted to be president, so he could get out of jail
and continue enriching themself, on the tax-payer's credit.
Why does that look beautiful to you? YOU won't ever see a cent of those cuts.
It's literally socialism for the wealthy, reverse-RobinHood. You ain't wealthy!
You might be richer than most of your friends here, but this will hurt you too.
It's all worth it for you, as long as he hurts the brown people, isn't it?
But, you could try to be efficient. What do you think is wrong?
I could try to answer efficiently too, because reading isn't your thing either.
ah those food stamps, another freebie folks that don't need them is taking advantage of.
It's only all the OTHERS who are dirty profiteers, but you and your friends deserve it, because you were working hard all your life, or you had a lot of bad luck, or whatever. It's always OK for you, but all the others are lazy fucks.
I'm trying to change your thinking on that. Your government is not of the habit of giving "freebies". Take what they offer, because you either are ENTITLED to it or you NEED it, just like EVERYONE ELSE. Don't throw away Medicaid and Social Security for the LIE that some people are abusing it. You're fucking the 99+% of people who don't.
Don't be a TOOL for the wealthy who don't grant you these basics of modern civilization, so they can have even more money.
Cherish the tiny bit of social safety net that you still have in your godforsaken country. It's important for people's survival. It helps them maximize their potential. Bums in boxes are useless. Also, it might be you in that box, or someone you care about.
Don't assume you are safe, just because you worked hard all your life.
How different your tune is, than when you just voted for Trump. People were suffering from the high inflation and they couldn't buy groceries, remember. Now that Trump is crushing all those people to pulp, you're back to not giving a fuck. Very strange!
COVID set us back didn’t help either, because now there are men and women of various ages that have been able to stay home and receive government assistance.
at home, in the kitchen. Now they want them to work? I don't think so.
That effect of Covid was very short-lived. There is no government assistance anymore. However, there is still a remaining labor shortage. There are about 1.7 million missing workers. Some of them just died. Another big group is suffering from long covid. "Reduced Workforce Participation: An estimated 2 to 4 million working-age Americans have been unable to work due to long COVID, either temporarily or permanently."
Some young people stayed in school longer. When they started an education, it takes several years to finish it. There are indeed women who do not return to their job, because they are mothers now. Personally, I think that mothers and fathers need to share the working life, but I don't think both should work a full-time job. Parents should be able to provide for their children with at maximum 60 hrs/week total.
I’ve worked hard my entire life and in most of my years, there wasn’t just one job, I worked two jobs. Last year I jumped out of retirement to be a caregiver. There are jobs to be had by those that are motivated to do more than leach off of society.
Your last sentence in your last paragraph of your post,
"There are jobs to be had by those that are motivated to do more than leach off of society."
says it all. You either don't see or choose to ignore the needy who have no way to improve their lot in life. I'm glad you are healthy enough to work again, but, let's be real, most people that have to take help from the government are healthy enough to work and they already do.
And, BTW, leaches come in all forms for many reasons. But, they are not the norm.
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Was he a comedian or a damn prophet?
I rarely choose to use vulgar language however that amount deserves a what the fuck can you buy/ how far can $23.00 at the grocery store? Geez Louise! On Sunday, after CHURCH, I stopped at a nearby Spartan market because I wanted some fruit, specifically I wanted apples. Spartan markets identify their house brand by the name of “OUR FAMILY”. I looked at a 3lb bag of Honey Crisp apples that were priced at $9.99. I asked a nearby grocery clerk whether that sign was accurate and she confirmed that it was. Can you believe it? A jaw dropping $3.33 per pound for Honey Crisp apples so I grabbed a 3lb bag of Fuji that was only $4.99!
Back to what $23.00 might buy at the local store, eggs aren’t as expensive as when I WHINED about them in Florida…. I can buy eggs at Kroger for under $3.00, actually they were $2.79 per dozen (I can’t afford organic cage free eggs). So yesterday I bought eggs at $2.79, a 3 pack of Romaine lettuce hearts ($3.99), a bottle of Kraft Salad Dressing on sale for $2.49, a generic $5.00 bag of lunch meat that was tagged as “oven roasted turkey”*, one can of Simple Truth organic Garbanzo beans ($1.25), Fairlife Ultra-Filtered lactose free low-fat milk (52 oz/$5.69)** and a I suspect you might be able to get a bag of white rice, too.
I spent slightly less than $22.00 yesterday and as you see, $23.00 doesn’t go far in Michigan! Would yesterday’s haul feed me for a month until my next $23.00 comes? Hell, NO!
* the generic bag of oven roasted turkey was packaged in a Kroger deli bag as if it was sliced and packaged upon request that morning. It tasted okay once I washed all the salt taste off of it. It definitely is not as tasty as Boar’s Head turkey that is $12.49 per lb.
** Fairlife Ultra-filtered milk priced at $5.69 for 52oz (12oz LESS THAN the standard 1/2 gallon) I’ve been buying this milk because it has a shelf life of 2 months. I am able to consume it all, there’s no spoilage, well worth the extra money I spend!
But even if you didn't work for 37+ years, those programs serve a need.
Americans are the hardest working people on the planet.
Cut your fellow Americans some slack.
I feel that the system is geared to provide the same number of programs and amenities to the dead beats as it is to ME, a hard working contributor and that is unfortunate .
If they fail in life, I don't want to have any blame for that.
Then there are lots of people who are just not smart and completely lacking of talent. Look at how stupid the average person is and then realize that 50% is stupider than them. About a quarter is not capable of surviving this modern world. Do we just give up on them? I say that would be a waste of potential. They can pull their weight,
if we help them a bit. It's for our own benefit as much as theirs.
I don't think it's unfortunate that a contributor like me is not getting the same as someone who under-performs. The whole intent is to help the ones who need it.
I don't need anything anymore, but society helped me get to where I am.
Save it for the people who need it, so we help them contribute too. Also, I was lucky so far, but everyone is at risk of their luck running out. When it does, I want society to help me out, just as I want to help out everyone who is shit out of luck now.
Don't think this is all sympathy for poor people. It's mostly selfish. I want to live
in a nice world. You are just extras. I want you to be cheerful in my movie of life, because I don't like dramas.
The Trumps and the Vances and the Dgraffs and the Bellas, can believe what they want. I know, yes, I know, better.
10 Worst Assets That Keep You Poor (Avoid These!)
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I liked it, a lot.
But it provided me with a whole different perspective than it did for phart.
Are you also realizing how much capitalism critique is contained in this video?
It's all a guide for protecting yourself against greedy assholes, trying to screw you.
I think that voting for Trump is also capitalism critique. Many people voted for Trump, because they are tired of how capitalism has fucked them over for the last decades.
Trump promised something different. He's a lying fuck, who doesn't give a damn about you, but Americans are easily fooled. That's because most of you are indoctrinated to believe fairy-tales from a 2000 year old book. If you believe that, you believe everything.
That's the whole reason for why the wealthy fund religion.
Trump has completely abandoned the idea of free global trade, one of the basic principles of capitalism. That's capitalism critique.
Also, your whole anti-immigrant rhetoric is based on the idea that the "filthy brown people" are coming for your jobs. That's also capitalism critique. If you hadn't deregulated capitalism, so they wouldn't be able to pick cheap immigrants over you, that would not be your concern. (unless you just hate brown people, of course)
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who exploit them.
Business owner who voted for Trump says ICE detained a third of his employees
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If he is a criminal, for hiring 'illegals', as your Assistant Secretary Dept. of Homeland Security Tricia McLaughlin said, why is he not in jail awaiting trial right now. He is clearly facilitating 'illegals'.
alot of folks fought and died back in the 1700's to get us out from under a kings thumb.
And so it starts. Best interest of the country? Why not let Israel handle it. Why involve us in another war we have no business being in.
if there ever was a good case of what if, this would be it, do you really want God pissed off at you or your nation?
"The Bible contains verses that are interpreted as indicating God's favor towards those who support Israel and his promise to bless those who bless Abraham's descendants. This is often linked to the Abrahamic Covenant in Genesis 12:3, where God promises to bless those who bless Abraham and his descendants. Some Christians believe this passage extends to the modern nation of Israel and therefore support the nation's existence and well-being. "
You can try to make all the excuses you want. It WAS declaration of war. Illegal too.
to me, Trump swore and took a oath to protect America and eliminating a threat of nukes in the hands of radicals is fulfilling that oath.
If this was right, you wouldn't be scrambling for an excuse. And, BTW, I told you and others, I don't care what you believe or think about my views. Your flawed views don't make it any less true. The Clown King broke the law.
when you forget history, or erase it as many democrats do, you repeat it.
you and folks like you,are the reason this country is so fucked up. sometimes when shit has hit the fan, you have to go to extreme measures to clean things up.
Trump inherited a mess. 4 years of some other asshole using autopen to sign things biden didn't even know were going on. now that he is dying of cancer, that is mighty convenient for those that used him during that 4 years. alot of crime there that you wouldn't support investigating because you like the results
1) does Iran have nuclear weapons or are they close to it?
2)did the Clown’s own security advisors tell him Iran did NOT have nuclear weapons or close to having it?
3) what “mess” are you talking about? If it’s so obvious then you should be able to be specific.
4) why are my groceries and other staples so high? Higher than Biden’s term?
5)why are so many other world leaders condemning the attack?
6)why are Americans held in so low esteem that it’s being suggested to not travel abroad?
7) Congress is controlled by Republicans. Why aren’t there any investigations on Biden or his term of office?
So, Mr Phart, besides farting into the wind, what have you got except a bad smell?
concentrate on how things got where they are.
you are able to google. the autopen thing is going on right now.his doctor is being questioned shortly in congress.
get with the now if it is so important to you.
other world leaders are condemning the attack because they are afraid it will upset their apple carts of money and oil under the table bypassing sanctions.
And, still, you can't justify anything. You are all talk but no proof. And you certainly can't keep it on the subject.
We did pursue an air war but the real #1 enemy was Japan.
You can minimize it, excuse it, whatever, but, the Clown King committed an act of war and Iran sees it as so.
Again, don’t put words in my mouth. I don’t hate Jews and some of my closest friends are Jews. Your “theory” is beneath you.
oh yea, iran just decided to close the strait to block oil shipments. so um, do we sit back and wait or do we blow the bastards out of the water and keep moving oil?
"well if you don't mind israel being blown off the map, there must be some reason,"
You don't know me. You know my politics and my social leanings. You even know my sexual mores, but, you really don't know me.
If you want to make this personal, okay, but at least tell me. I can do personal and everyone knows it.
And just what law did he break
You know all is fair in love and war
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I just love gun play and explosions
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You only know what the news aloud you to know
And what Jane Fonda told you
The Rules of Engagement (ROE) for U.S. soldiers
2. Key Principles:
Positive Identification (PID):
Soldiers must have a reasonable certainty that a target is a legitimate military target before engaging it.
Proportionality:
The force used should be proportionate to the threat, meaning the harm caused should not be excessive in relation to the military advantage gained.
Distinction:
Military forces must distinguish between combatants and civilians, and between military objectives and protected objects like hospitals or cultural sites.
Precautions in Attack:
Soldiers must take reasonable precautions to minimize harm to civilians and civilian objects during an attack.
“Self-Defense:
Soldiers have the right to defend themselves and their unit from attack.”
Minimizing Collateral Damage:
ROE aim to limit collateral damage, which is unintended harm to civilians and civilian objects.
It seems everyone knows someone who has a buddy who witnessed something in all arguments. Please thank your brother-in-law for his service.
Want to hear something funny? My ex, WOODY, his brother, my ex brother-in-law, got drafted in ‘71 and served there. To this day he won’t talk about it.
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" been fighting so long they don't know what the FUCK to do!! "
you can agree with that can't you?
and by the way, it is back down to prebomb levels already wholesale, so this bump,yet again, is just the sellers taking advantage of us
In any case, you already have many kings; they all shared Trump's stage at his inauguration. They all have more money than my king and much more influence on your government. They are also immune from the law, when they brake the law.
They are no king by title, but they rule over you like no king in Europe did in at least
a century.
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here ye go, exactly what i and others in the world have been trying to explain.
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id theft is real and that is how these so called hard working innocent people are stealing from us in more ways than 1.
here's ye another 1.
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that so called wonderful usaid thing, how that for honesty? 550 million dollars worth of bribes??
so much for being a great organization eh?
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now that we have leaders instead of enablers in office, the money will be traced to who is making these riots so violent.
these riots cost all of us. the burned cars, damaged buildings, lost business, that cost is made up for by insurance that we all have to pay. A storm, we can't prevent, we can prepare though to reduce cost. a riot, we can prevent if they can't afford to put it on.
i don't know of a clown in the white house.
i seriously doubt she would be able to handle whats going on right now. she would be heavily dependent on experienced staff as she would just be thinking about the next latte and swiss roll.
What if they were manhandling my friend or a family member or a person on the street?
Why are unidentified and masked ICE agents legally allowed to do this?
I can't think of another policing force in the US that does this.
Have the jack boots already been ordered?
Maybe if you read what I said again and thought of it as being done while Biden was in office you might have a different opinion. As a matter of fact I'm sure you would have a different opinion if this was done under Biden's presidency but I know you wouldn't admit that.
why? this is dangerous work. very dangerous. when our military goes into battle ,how much of their faces can the enemy see?
when a officer wears sun glasses, it blocks a camera from using eyes as a id method, so you want all law enforcement to have eye problems? if it is ok for crooks to protect their id, it is very much ok for cops to do the same far as i am concerned.
here is a image of your own countries special forces in uniform. how much of their face can you see?
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what Ice and immigration officials are doing is walking into enemy territory and removing illegals. if their faces and names are public, they are potential targets of hate crimes. i can't believe you are not smart enough to understand the issue. I think you are, but you are looking at the removal of illegals as being wrong and are cherry picking things to make it all look bad.
if you were being invaded,as the US has been over the past few years, they may well need to be.
i hope not. i would rather none of this had to happen. but things have gotten out of hand.
lazy Americans would rather pay some immigrant 2 dollars a hour to do grunt work and lay around on their cell phone instead of being self reliant.
ICE hide their face because they feel idiots like you will take things out on their families (home).
Now why do libtard blm, floyd, and hamas supporters feel the need to hide their faces. Hmmm, avoid prosecution maybe?
I do not think anyone is holding their breath for your answer, but you might want to take a breath.
The problem is not the protection but the intent of these members of the law. There’s a difference between a raid in a dangerous (or perceived dangerous) alleged law breaker and downright cruel intimidation.
Second,Tecsan, you know very well why these DEI agents wear those masks. How many of these poor (and I mean cash poor) illegals could possibly be ready to retaliate. Notice I’m giving you a chance to turn the narrative. You know it’s all BS.
hahahhaaaa,
350 billion
that is alot of money cat.
people that can be a asset to America can pay 5 million dollars to become a citizen and look what that money can do? that is less taxes for you and me.
get rid of the free loaders and bring in the people that can really make change happen. a man or woman willing to pay 5 million dollars to come here, has funds to cover research into automated machines to pick crops, and other jobs illegals do.
but Putin is not playing ball. I understand his frustration.
can just continue bombing civilians, which is a war crime.
Ukraine hit a military target, which is fully justifiable self defense against an agressor.
I think this helps the peace negotiations. It weakens Russia, which is good.
It levels the playing field.
and the facts are only western tech would have allowed this attack to happen. does that not ring a bell?
in other words, it could very well be the US helped bomb those planes, which means our nuclear arsenel is fair game to the russians now.
- Khmelnitsky Nuclear Power Plant Agreement (2010)?
Ukraine and Russia signed an intergovernmental agreement to collaborate on constructing the third and fourth reactors at Ukraine's Khmelnitsky Nuclear Power Plant.
- 2010 Nuclear Security Summit?
During the 2010 Nuclear Security Summit in Washington, D.C., Ukraine announced its decision to relinquish its stockpile of highly enriched uranium (HEU), to prevent nuclear terrorism and was welcomed by the international community.
- Joint Working Paper on NPT Withdrawal Procedures?
In 2010, Ukraine and Russia co-authored a working paper for the Review Conference of the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons (NPT). While not a treaty, this collaboration highlighted both countries' engagement in nuclear non-proliferation discussions.
- New START Treaty (2010)?
Although not directly involving Ukraine, the New Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty (New START) between the United States and Russia was signed in 2010. Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state under the NPT, supported such arms control measures and called on both nations to continue efforts in nuclear disarmament.
Ukraine did not violate ANY "nuclear treaty".
ChatGPT: The most relevant document is the 1997 Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between Ukraine and the Russian Federation. This treaty included a key clause where both countries recognized each other's existing borders, which at that time meant Russia recognized Crimea as part of Ukraine.
That 1997 treaty was violated by Russia, when they conquered Crimea,
and again when Russia attacked Ukraine and conquered big parts of it.
That treaty is in the bin. Since then, Ukraine is allowed to defend itself.
Those planes were destroyed with cheap drones that Ukraine makes themselves.
I would not have been happy, if they used our F-16s for that.
However, Ukraine may (legally) use F-16s to strike military targets in Russia,
and the Netherlands now appears to allow this as well, provided the strikes are defensive and target legitimate military objectives. Still, the actual use of such weapons remains subject to political decisions and strategic considerations,
and will be weighed carefully by Ukraine and its allies.
Do you want Europe to wait to get involved, until Russia attacks Poland or Finland?
Or will you then still argue that we cannot do counter-attacks, because Russia has nukes?
If Russia uses nukes, they can expect retaliation. They should understand that 1
of our nukes on one of their most vital areas will do much greater damage to them,
than 1 of their nukes on any of our most vital areas. They have a very big country,
but their economy is very small and very localized. They can be nuked back to the stone age with only a few nukes, but it requires many to do that to Europe or the US.
If you are so afraid of nuclear annihilation, you shouldn't have voted for Trump,
who is a blithering idiot on the subject. If someone ends the world, it'll be him.
In the meanwhile, we are not letting Russia gain strength, because that's one sure route to nuclear annihilation. They need to know that the part of Earth that they already occupy is big enough. They are smart enough to know that what they have
is better than nuclear annihilation. They thought that they could win easily. Wrong!
Now they are playing a long-term strategy, and you still fail to understand.
Your orange buffoon has been playing right into their hands. He only helped them.
But now even he is beginning to understand. When will you?
There is nothing that anyone can do, except FORCE HIM into choosing peace,
because war is too costly for him. Or too costly to the Russians, so they stop him.
Even if we give Putin all of Ukraine today, there wouldn't be peace.
The only thing it did is reward Putin, make him a hero to the Russian people
and show them that their suffering was worth it....
(What do you think the points mean?)
Please read up on some psychology and war strategy.
Most Russians are just victims too.
That doesn't mean we should let them conquer Ukraine.
How many German people would have been spared, if the world had
put a stop to Hitler, BEFORE he went to war with EVERYONE?
Ever heard of the Munich Agreement of 1938?
Hitler claimed that the Germans in the Sudetenland were being mistreated and demanded that the region be ceded to Germany. Britain (led by Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain) and France, hoping to avoid another war, pursued a policy of appeasement. Result: Britain and France agreed to let Hitler annex the Sudetenland in exchange for a promise of no further territorial demands.
In March 1939, Hitler broke his promise and invaded the rest of Czechoslovakia.
I hope you at least know what happened next.
And you want to be just as naive now.
I know you people hate teaching kids HISTORY, but it's meant to prevent
making the same mistakes over and over again.
I'm not saying you need to read, heaven forbid, but maybe a documentary or two?
putin does and has launched a nuclear ready missile at ukraine just to show them he does have the tech to blow them off the map.
just to put my honest opinion online once and for all, the US has special forces such as Delta Force,or Navy SEAL Team 6 that went in and got bin laden. other countries have similar.such as your Korps Commandotroepen, or israel's , Sayeret Matkal ,
if and i do mean if, the US and the netherlands gave a honest damn about the dangers putin poses, he woulda been dead 3 years ago.
your country and others in europe are using the war to try to milk the US out of more money and military aid that you could build yourselves if you wanted to.
What would the US do, if some country sends their elite killers for Trump?
There is no declaration of war as clearly as killing the leader of the enemy.
Don't be daft, what good does milking the US do us.
No one wanted this war, except Putin and his friends.
We expect you to keep your side of a decades old deal.
You sold the weapons to everyone, that's your business.
If you are not a trustworthy supplier anymore, we have to
make weapons ourselves. We will, but it's not like opening
a sandwich shop, and we cannot buy the machines at Amazon.
as for milking the us, you get to watch a world super power melt down. that's entertainment for europeans.
you think no one will use nukes, boy are you naive.if putin gets mad enough , boom!
that war coulda ended early on had zelensky allowed a election and a legit president,if not himself again won the election. that is why putin won't sit down with zelenski, he has sat in the office and prevented a election, therefore is not a legit leader to negotiate with anyhow
has been postponed due to the ongoing martial law imposed after Russia's full-scale invasion in February 2022.
Under Ukrainian law, elections cannot be held while martial law is in effect. This is to ensure continuity of governance and support the nation's defense.
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.... and of course we all know that Vladimir Putin is known worldwide for his free and fair elections, right?
putin invaded ukraine, some say he did it to deal with a nazi problem, others think he is just greedy for the land to reassemble the soviet union. which a unified group of countries would be stronger.
regardless of the reason if you will remember back a year or so ago when the election did not happen, putin said the reason he would not sit down with zelensky was because he was no longer legit.
should this war continue>? no, should not have started. but putin has gained some ground in the war, and if the fighting is to stop, zelenski may need to consider giving it up. unless he just wants the killing to continue.
7:00 PM Thursday, in Washington, DC
so there is a slight time difference. Trump called putin at His convenience, not putins.
The report breaks these actions into 15 main categories, including:
1. Official government time and resources have been spent promoting Musk’s businesses.
2. Under the Trump Administration, federal government agencies — perhaps influenced by Musk or seeking his favor — have entered or explored new lucrative contracts for his companies and turned to his companies’ services.
3. During the Trump Administration, federal agencies have dropped investigations into Musk companies, declined to enforce regulations against them, or foregone penalties that appear to have been warranted.
4. Largely guided by Musk’s DOGE, the Trump Administration has hamstrung the agencies overseeing Musk’s companies, gutting their staff, throwing sand in the gears of their operations, and embedding DOGE staff loyal to Musk.
5. Agencies have pursued policy changes and regulatory approvals that benefit Musk’s companies.
6. Musk received special access to sensitive government meetings, classified information, and proprietary government data that can boost his companies.
7. Musk has been involved in selecting and installing personnel loyal to him in agencies that regulate or contract with his companies.
8. Musk appeared to redirect foreign aid and immigration policy toward his personal parochial interests rather than the public’s interest.
9. Musk companies reportedly use the promise of federal assistance — or threat of federal penalties — to extract better deals from business partners and competitors.
10. The Trump Administration weaponizes federal enforcement powers against Musk’s enemies.
11. Musk’s influence-peddling in Congress will benefit his bottom line.
12. Musk secured deals with foreign nations and companies, often after using his unique access to Trump Administration policy discussions and staff.
13. Musk’s family members also receive new business opportunities – soon after Musk becomes top advisor to the president.
14. Musk uses his influence to meddle in the political and judicial processes in ways that could help protect his political — and financial — interests.
15. Despite his calls for the government to practice “maximum transparency,” Musk has failed to inform the American people of critical information about his potential conflicts of interest.
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i hope they tear the system apart and rebuild it from the ground up. there has been so much money poured into it, yet, when people are unable to work and are due benefits they make impossible to get it. those that don't live in the us have no real clue what that system is like, they think uncle sam just hands everyone deserving a check. they make it very hard to get, and keep moving the goal post as to when you can start drawing it and etc. a racket or Ponzi scheme.
here are a few things you really should think about,that are not Elons fault
1, key board monitoring virus's. my first computer was infected with the pretty park virus in 2001 , made for a hell of a mess
It's impossible to give a precise number of computers with keyboard monitoring viruses. Keyloggers are a form of malware that records keystrokes, and the number of computers affected by them fluctuates constantly. While researchers estimate that millions of computers are infected, and keyloggers can be used for both malicious and legitimate purposes, it's difficult to track them accurately.
2, hacked email accounts,
It's difficult to pinpoint an exact number of hacked email accounts, as many breaches go unreported. However, data suggests a high likelihood of email accounts being compromised. In 2022, the Identity Theft Resource Center reported 1,291 publicly reported data breaches with roughly 166 million victims, indicating that many email accounts are likely affected.
3, id theft
In 2021, the Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) reported that about 23.9 million U.S. residents aged 16 or older (9% of the population) were victims of identity theft during the prior 12 months. This figure represents about 1 in 10 persons in the U.S. who experienced identity theft in the past year. Additionally, a 2023 AARP report stated that about 15 million Americans were affected by identity fraud, according to AARP.
so if you just now got concerned about your private information because a world leader in technology is looking for fraud in our governments work, you could be in danger of id theft and other things,and may very well be a victim of many crimes and not even know it. elon is not a crook but how many crooks are looking at your info right now that you don't know about?
That is the real reason they have not been made public’
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Oh, now he cares about that, but not before, when he spent $290 million
to help Trump win the election.
of course Trump,and whoever else is a enemy would be in that file, as soon as a hacker put them in there.
sadly this type stuff like bill and the cigar,has been so common place that it is acceptable behavior for famous people to do reckless and illegal things. so now with Ai tech, plenty of deep fake photos and fake electronic files could be created to bring down anyone.
just think about what i am saying before you say it can't be done, you didn't like or trust Elon before he said that, so why would you change now/? because it fits your hate filled agenda towards Trump?
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is or would be an issue. Many people just have different opinions than you
on the causes, the results and the solutions.
slavery 2025.
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they don't have to wash their hands at mickyd's but when they walk in and start working.the rest of the time they are picking their nose's
and democrats want them to stay, crazy
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so someone needs to fix their own yard before calling the hoa on ours.
The orange orangutan doesn't like it and tells the UK to get rid of wind turbines and drill for more oil.
Stay the fuck away, ape, says the UK. Apelike dicatorlings can shove their opinions in their ass and the half brains of those who voted for them.
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It’s everything Trump doesn’t know.
Yes, energy costs tend to be significantly higher in the UK than in the US, especially for industrial users and households. UK electricity prices for industrial users can be four times higher than in the US. Similarly, domestic energy prices in the UK are 2.8 times higher than in the US.
yea right call Trump a orange ape, the uk government officals are some dumb ass people and have the general population licking their hands just for the fucking salt. Their energy cost alot more than here in the US, just think how much better the economy would be in europe if they focused on proven energy tech instead of unicorn farts?
the economy may not matter to you leo because all you have to do is fuck and complain online. but to the general population the economy is important. and low cost energy makes for a better economy for the general population.
Of course the problems don't start when the planet is mostly uninhabitable by humans, because there are 8 billion humans, who already today don't have enough agriculture land to feed everyone, and not enough fresh water to irrigate that agriculture land.
Every square mile, and every puddle of the water sources, we lose to climate change aggravates that problem. People in hot climates are not passively staying in their dying area, until they starve to death. Conflicts over water and food are on the rise. People who think immigration is bad now, will soon find themselves corrected in their thinking. Civilization is dependent on resources from all over the world. If whole areas are uninhabitable, the resources that are coming from there will dry up too. Conflicts caused by climate change will destroy civilization long before climate change itself can.
I don't care for humanity to survive as few million people, who live like savages and struggle to survive on a daily basis. If we have to live a Mad Max movie, that would be such a disgrace to what we have accomplished, that I prefer to go extinct completely.
If our stupidity prevents our greatness, so be it.
But let that not discourage you from the fight against stupidity.
with ice melting, there is more fresh water than ever somewhere, salt water does not freeze.
What value does it have to live a Mad Max movie?
I value humanity for it's "humanity". If there is nothing left of that, fuck humanity!
All the ice melting means LESS fresh water.
Fresh water for a big part comes from mountains full of snow and ice, that melts
after the winter, filling the rivers.
No more mountains full of snow and ice, means LESS fresh water.
"One significant study published in Water Resources Research found that from 2000 to 2021, the Colorado River Basin experienced a 10.3% reduction in natural flow due to anthropogenic warming. Notably, snowpack regions within the basin suffered an 86% decrease in runoff, exacerbating the megadrought conditions."
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All the ice melting also means less LAND. Not just because the land ice melts,
raising the sea level, but climate change means higher temperatures, which expands with higher temperatures.
at some point you have to decide, am i going to live a life of sacrifice for a uncertain future or am i going to live a life of reasonable comfort and safety and health?
if putin dumps a few nukes on ukraine, your air in the netherregions will be poluted, and your neighbors will die early deaths. so the clean air will be worthless
climate change believers are similar to religious people.
climate change believers don't look at the obvious threats of nukes and bombs, they have faith in a possible future of stinky air.
a religious person has faith in a bright here after, and doesn't think about the fact he hasn't saw evidence yet.
Here are 53 times trump said he’d end Ukraine war within 24 hours or before taking office:
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And, indeed, this new managed to end this war months ago.
Congratulations to him! A man who knows what he's talking about and one who keeps his promises.
it is a bottomless pit when you have a dictator like zelensky that has seized the office of president way past when the country was supposed to have a election wants to keep killing russians.
that we should be able to agree on.
but either party could stop the war if they made concessions. did i start it? no. i really don't see what putin wants with it anyway now. blown to hell and would take years to rebuild.
at the moment, 10's of 1000's have died over some dirt.
why not end the death for some dirt?
That's why they are fighting to the death, to not suffer that again.
They want freedom and they are willing to fight and die for it.
They elected Zelensky and they are fighting for him, because he's not a dictator.
Meanwhile, you are believing the lies from one dictator and supporting another
to turn your country into Russia.
the fight for ukraine is a loosing battle, they can't win. and they are the 1's that gave up their nukes that would have detered russia from invading.
i just feel like they need to stop fighting and if all it takes to stop the killing is some dirt, give it up and stop the killing.it aint worth it,not in their case.
Ukraine possesses substantial natural resources, including significant deposits of coal, gas, iron, manganese, titanium, and uranium. It also holds large reserves of lithium, beryllium, and rare earth elements. Furthermore, Ukraine is a major agricultural producer, particularly of sunflower oil and meal.
You only care about human lives, when it serves your narratives.
Ukraine surrendering to Russia will not stop the killing.
It will either turn into ethnic cleansing or starvation.
And then Putin starts the next invasion.
When bank-robbers take people as human shields, you don't have sympathy for the hostages either, I assume.
The ones who vote for them don't know what they are, until they are.
But, even if what you say is true neither putin nor trump would want to do anything about nazis. They're nazis themselves. Dictators, like putin and trump, love nazis.
Here are a few reminders for you.
Trump supported the nazi party in Germany (afd), the one that the court decided it is extremist.
Trump supported the nazi presidential candidate in Romania, the one who lost the elections. Trump expressed his dismay for his loss.
So, if there have been nazi symbols in Ukraine, putin or trump wouldn't want to end the war because of them. On the contrary, they'd love to install a nazi dictatorial government in Ukraine.
American has drained it's economy, drained it supply of munitions and equipment, and now ukraine has crossed the line and blown up nuclear bombers. what the fuck were they thinking??
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i hope all the folks in paris, london, and washington, that have hugged up to old zelensky are able to live long enough after the blast to remember who the hell pushed putin over the edge.
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It would be very easy to profit from his own tariff announcements.
And even other Republicans are saying that he and his friends actually do.
Anyone else would go to jail for doing that.
Strange how Elon Musk tried to gut the FEC, right?
Trump Always Chickens Out
Yesterday he said that the EU will be faced with
50% tariffs on June 1. We'll see how that goes
... but we know it will get cancelled because TACO.
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Well look at that. Trump has delayed the EU tariffs until July 1.
TACO
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Oops. July 9.
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Trump surely picks the best people.
A particularly alarming and well-documented account of the challenges facing elderly Social Security recipients under the Trump administration is provided by the Washington Post article titled "How DOGE's grand plan to remake Social Security is backfiring".
This article details how the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), led by Elon Musk, implemented sweeping changes to the Social Security Administration (SSA) with the aim of reducing spending. These changes included staff cuts, technology overhauls, and a controversial three-day hold on phone claims. The result was severe disruptions in services, causing significant delays in claim processing and deteriorating customer satisfaction. As of the article's publication, 575,000 claims were pending, and issues such as system crashes, long call wait times, and shortages of basic supplies had emerged. An AI-driven phone system intended to assist claimants instead frustrated them due to its inability to route calls effectively. Internal resistance to these measures was reportedly stifled by fears of job loss. The article also notes that the new SSA commissioner, Frank Bisignano, is reassessing DOGE's influence, while employees continue to confront operational breakdowns and declining morale.
the system is not what it is cracked up to be. the only way it could get much worse is if no one got any of what they paid in. and they keep making the age higher so they may not have to pay you a dime. hoping you die off before you get it.
Now they made it even worse. They want to destroy it.
By making it crap, they want to increase support to destroy it.
And you are falling for those lies, hook, line and sinker.
"and they keep making the age higher so they may not have to pay you a dime."
Also true. You are talking about the Republicans, serving the wealthy.
They don't want to pay a cent for you to have it, because they don't need it.
Even if you paid for it your whole life, that's money that they want to have.
If you get some pension, they at least want to be able to make money off that.
So they might allow you to have private pensions. Then you'll pay much more,
your whole life, paying most of your money to their insurance companies' 'costs'.
Live to be 75, you might get a fraction of it back, if they didn't steal it completely.
ratings are back up so you debbie downers will have to sulk in your caves for a while instead of gloating about his low ratings.
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Recent national polls indicate that President Trump's approval ratings range between 42% and 47%, with disapproval ratings typically higher.
He's even just above water on border security, his main issue.
124 Days into his presidency, Joe Biden had much "better numbers".
AP-NORC Poll: Reported a 63% overall approval rating, with a particularly high 71% approval for his handling of the coronavirus pandemic. This survey was conducted between April 29 and May 3, 2021.
Ipsos/Reuters Poll: Found a consistent 55% approval rating for President Biden
in early May 2021.
Gallup Poll: Although specific figures for May 2021 aren't detailed in the provided sources, Gallup's initial measurement in January 2021 indicated a 57% approval rating for President Biden.
When your guy lost in 2020, you didn't sulk in your caves, you all joined the fight
to DESTROY democracy. Liberals and lefties should not be "sulking", they should fight
to KEEP democracy.
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if kamala had done this the liberals would love it, but since Trump had something to do with it, they will hate on it big time.
where the rich can call their big bonuses 'tips'.
If this is a clean bill, cutting taxes for actual tips, than I want Democrats to vote "YES" on it.
So, how many Democrats do you think will vote "Yes" vs "No"?
How many Republicans would vote in favor of that, under a Democratic president?
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It's another example of your administration just canceling important projects, and when pressed on out just say DEI, or waste, fraud and abuse, without ANY evidence. If he cannot present evidence of waste, fraud or abuse, HE'S LYING. They are just cutting everything that is important for people, and they don't give a fuck about who it is going to affect. If there was a good reason, he would be able to present it. If he thought there was a good reason, but he didn't know the details, he could say that and have someone provide the details. His behavior shows that HE KNOWS that their isn't a good reason.
When a project isn't executed correctly, the government cancels the contract with
the contractor, they don't cancel the budget for the project.
He is at a hearing, where he's supposed to take responsibility for his actions, as the leader of a government agency, towards congress. That's the democratic process,
and he's making a mockery of it, which should be reason for his immediate resignation.
the waste water portion of the grant, um, that portion of the money is probably the best spent of all of it.
if it is such a poor town, the mothers are probably at home to care for the kids, so no daycare is needed. the health center, is that a place for people to go in and do jumping jacks like a gym or a place to get dr's care? there is probably already a drs office in the town, so again, not needed.
He is obligated by law to take responsibility for his actions.
You didn't listen, the county school gym is rebuilt to a health clinic.
There is public funding for projects like that, which are democratically implemented.
"While they are private, daycare providers are subject to state regulations and licensing. Also, some public funding mechanisms support access to daycare:
Subsidies for low-income families (e.g., through the Child Care and Development Block Grant, or CCDBG)
Head Start and Early Head Start (federally funded programs, but not the same as typical private daycare)"
When the funding for those projects is democratically signed off on, you can only democratically end it, not let a billionaire hack into the government finances and
cancel contracts.
It's not up to Elon Musk, or Hon Zelding, or you, to decide what's needed or not,
this was decided by A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, and Elon Musk STOLE IT.
In poor areas, mothers have to work, because they cannot feed their kids on one income. In a lot of cases, both parents work multiple jobs, to keep their heads above water. Since private day care is ridiculously expensive, it's a great return on investment when the government funds public daycare.
Only rich people can survive on one income these days. Didn't you know that?
How wealthy do your billionaires need to be, before they finally fund those things?
Isn't that what you think is the ideal system? When does it start working then?
Why do you think people are protesting oligarchy?
Because they are fed up with billionaires deciding that one drs office in a town,
that's suffering high levels of leukemia and pneumonia, from air pollution, is good enough for them, but NOTHING is EVER good enough for those billionaires.
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in a horrible concentration camp, in a dictatorship, without due process.
The fact that you think that's justified just stuns liberals.
would even be considered by Democrats.
They actually respect The Constitution and Amendments, YOU DON'T.
Trump wants to take away the right/responsibility of judges, even state and Supreme Court justices, to rule that a federal law, regulation, or policy is unconstitutional or unlawful.
That means that the courts cannot order to halts the enforcement of an unconstitutional or unlawful federal law, regulation, or policy, with the goal of preventing widespread harm, while the legal proceedings continue, which could take years.
Trump's policy is completely UNCONSTITUTIONAL. It would strip the Judicial Branch of most of its ability to prevent the Legislative Branch and Executive Branch of enacting unconstitutional or unlawful federal laws, regulations, or policies.
It's also highly unpractical. It means that it would "require individuals to file separate lawsuits in different jurisdictions to contest federal actions, potentially leading to inconsistent legal outcomes and delayed relief." Basically, it would flood the legal system with lawsuits.
trying to stop the missuse of birth right citizenship for example, if you let judges stop it until everything goes thru the courts,appeals and etc,people could be born and then dead and gone before it is determined it was not legal.
that is excessive harm to the country when babies are spat out of illegal women like watermelon seeds and as long as they fall out on us soil, they are suddenly citizens is not what the law was meant to do. it was meant to make sure that babies born to us citizens were automatically citizens without having to go thru the process.
When a 6/3 conservative Supreme Court says that Trump's law is unconstitutional,
than it's an absolute no-brainer.
If there is a "misuse of birth right citizenship", then solve it LEGALLY.
There is no doubt what the constitution says; if you're born in the US, you're an American.
100% undeniable:
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
If you want to change that, get your TWO-THIRDS MAJORITY IN CONGRESS!!!
Here's a little tip for president Trump:
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Find out what he means by it.
It probably has more bugs in the Amazon rainforest and it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars in security and communication upgrades.
Donald Trump just got bought… again.
what bugs me is Trump has his own plane. other than defenses, it is nicer than air farce 1. so he could use it with secret service pilots looks to me like.
The one delivered directly from Boeing will not have any listening devices or espionage related devices on board.
Air Force One is not just a luxury airline, it has far superior security, weapons and communication systems. It also has a fully operational operating room.
The plane from Qatar would have to be stripped down to nothing and redone to suit the security needs of the president of the United States.
see a corruption issue in it. Why can't you acknowledge that?
Do you like that corruption or do you want to see it reduced?
How did Elon prove that? By literally buying people's votes?
Which Democrat ever sold Chinese watches for $100,000 per piece, so billionaires and foreign leaders can easily bribe him, by buying a couple or a crate of watches from him.
Which Democrat ever created an NFT and other crypto scams, so people can send him unlimited amounts of untraceable money, and show him the receipts, when they visit him in Mar-a-Lago, during in-transparent meetings?
Which Democrat have ever asked someone how many of their ETF's they have bought from them, when they are applying for a job?
Which Democrat has ever accepted a Boeing 747 from Qatar?
Which Democrat has multiple golf clubs, where billionaires and foreign leaders
pay $700,000/year?
Which Democrat asked the Supreme Court to make them immune from the law?
to make yourself believe that the Democrats are more corrupt.
Giving Trump a pass, is DEFINITELY NOT going to reduce corruption.
Who do you want him to work for, YOU or whoever gives him MONEY?
What if the EU gives Trump a $500 million, to keep sending Ukraine weapons?
If you agree with that open corruption, we can do that....
Do you think that's how politics should work?
Or ask his loyal staffers, who are angry about it. They might know.
You don't ask what Burisma got from Biden, while you couldn't even prove
he got one cent from them. Hunter's job was all you needed to say: "CORRUPTION!". However, Joe Biden didn't even have a position of power
back then, that he could use to 'reward' Burisma.
It's not that there are no options for Qatar to 'reward' Trump for their 'present',
it is that there are TOO MANY, to point it down.
One article points to " intricate nexus of business deals that Eric Trump is creating at lightning speed through the Gulf region. The first foreign deal secured by the Trump Organization since Trump’s return to the Oval Office in January is in Qatar."
"The deal is for the construction of a luxury resort and 18-hole golf course outside the Qatari capital, Doha. It will be known as the Trump International Golf Club & Villas. That would appear to be a breach of Trump’s second-term promise – already so much weaker than the ethical pledges he made in Trump presidency 1.0 – that the family business would pursue no deals involving foreign governments."
"Were that not enough, there’s also the crypto factor. Trump’s venture into the crypto currency business is another whole can of worms, with so many ethical conundrums attached to it that it would keep a conflict of interest investigator busy for years.
Where are the Trump family’s biggest crypto deals located? In the GULF STATES."
"A fund run by the royal family of UAE recently invested $2bn in a crypto exchange. The fund channeled the money through a new cryptocurrency known as stablecoin that tracks the US dollar.
The stablecoin was issued by a cryptocurrency company, World Liberty Financial.
It is owned by the Trump family.
The front page of World Liberty Financial’s website invites visitors to “meet our team, the passionate minds shaping the future of finance”. Under a beaming photograph of the 47th president are the words: “Donald J Trump, chief crypto advocate”."
MORE CHANCES FOR QUID PRO QUO THAN I'VE EVER SEEN!
THERE WAS JUST NOTHING THERE!!!!
Now you have the most corrupt president in American history,
but you completely refuse to see it, because he's your guy.
hum, qatar had agreed to buy 200 or so boeing planes. supporting US jobs. um, that free airplane is not such a bad thing after all.
Agreements signed by President Donald Trump and Qatar's Emir Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al-Thani on Wednesday will "generate an economic exchange worth at least $1.2 trillion,"
"How corrupt is the American government and what is the cause for it?"
Then ask Grok this:
"Which US president is most corrupt, Joe Biden or Donald J. Trump?"
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Phart said: "I feel like we are weak as a nation and as a world because instead of helping the next door neighbor,and they help theirs and it be a large circle that comes back around. we fly over, drive past , float past our neighors to help someone way away. which allows our home countries to suffer.
help the person next to you, they can then help their neighbor. the idea would work, just give it a chance"
ABOUT THAT LAST SENTENCE:
You're literally describing what my Socialist Party is doing.
And what do you want to achieve that way? What do you have a government for?
You want to make the government to be as SMALL as possible, right?
And then do what the government did before, by helping each other?
WHY?
WHY not organize that?
The result is; the exact type of socialism that my party is fighting for.
A bottom up, grass roots, fully democratic, people cooperation, AKA SOCIALISM.
Think about it, how do you plan to do that "helping each other" method with 330 million people? Are you all going to sit in a great hall, discussing who needs to help who? Or, are you going to pick a few people who organize things? How do you pick those people? WHO picks those people? Are you going to vote for them?
Does this sound like a structure you might recognize? It's going to look a lot like a democratically elected government, isn't it? How will you prevent that some people favor their friends at the detriment of other people? As soon as your "helping each other" method gets big enough to mean a damn, you're running into the same problems as before.
What are you going to do then? Pick another billionaire narcissist leader, who doesn't
give a crap about helping anyone? You're back where you started.
The government was a result of tribes getting larger. Your people helping people method is only feasible with at maximum 200 people. As soon as civilization created bigger tribes, they started creating governments. Civilization has tried almost every form of government that is possible. The form that respects its people the most is democracy. It's not as efficient as an autocracy, but it is more sustainable, because most people don't like to be ruled over or horribly murdered when they don't agree with the people who are running it. That's why I support democracy. However, when the government gives away all the power to a few wealthy people, it's not a democracy anymore. That's what's happened in the US. You're solution is to turn it into an autocracy, my solution is the exact opposite. Ownership = power, so I want to eliminate the system where ownership, that we all depend on, is in the hands of the few. It should be publicly owned and democratically controlled. That's not easy to achieve, but that's the goal of socialism.
why do you need a government to give your neighbor next door a few tomatoes to feed his family?
why would he then need a government to come over and help cut a storm damaged tree from your house>?
the Amish have seem to have a a good idea. neighbors barn burns down, the whole hood is there the next day with hammers and lumber to rebuild. no government .they do share a common religion. something you hate.
that is why church and state have to be separate though, both operate as 'government' in a sense.
lets see, i ask Grok, a great asset to society that i hope grows and prospers.
"does helping your neighbor require a government"
No, helping your neighbor doesn’t require a government. It’s a voluntary act rooted in human connection—sharing resources, lending a hand, or just being kind. Governments can facilitate community support through policies or programs, but they’re not essential for neighborly help. In fact, overreliance on government can sometimes crowd out personal initiative. Historically, mutual aid societies and local networks thrived without state intervention, like during the Great Depression when communities self-organized. That said, some argue government safety nets ensure help reaches those without strong personal networks, but that’s a separate question from whether it’s required. It’s not.
wow what a concept. independent thinking, independent of government.
as an individual.
Do you think that "giving your neighbor next door a few tomatoes to feed his family",
is the solution for what you called "we are weak as a nation and as a world"?
You are referring to small things like "come over and help cut a storm damaged tree
from your house". How did civilization fix that problem? INSURANCE!
We all set aside some money, for the unlucky person who needs it. Right?
You can do that in your neighborhood, in your city or your state, or your country.
Instead, you turned it into a business. Why? How is that "helping each other"?
How are you going to help someone who has cancer? Why do you let them care
for themselves? What's the difference with the tree on their roof?
Of course helping your neighbor doesn't require a government.
Now ask Grok if a system where we all help each other is a working alternative
for a government. I'm interested in the result.
our house insurance is over 1600 a year and we have never in 54 years filed a claim. i checked about another company and getting it cheaper, ha other companys quoted 3000 or more per year.
much cheaper for neighbors to help each other.
It would be cheaper if your neighbors would help you, but you can't rely on it. It's dependent on you having neighbors that CAN help you, even if they wanted to help you. What happens if the whole block burns down in a big fire? Are the neighbors from the next block coming to help? Do they have the money and time to help all those people rebuild your block of houses? It doesn't work.
Here's my alternative: the whole country just pays into a system that helps people, when a tree falls on their house or their house burns down. No profit, no complicated system to get your damage repaired or your house rebuilt, just one guy comes to look at the damage and signs off on what is needed. The order is picked up by a licensed contractor in the neighborhood and the job is done, by licensed workers. We have some independent specialists checking that the job is done well, for an honest price. There is no one who doesn't contribute to this direct system making billions of profit.
It cheap, efficient and you're not dependent on the charity of neighbors.
kinda long.
is a system where we all help each other is a working alternative
for a government.
A system where everyone helps each other, often called mutual aid or cooperative governance, can function as an alternative to traditional government in some contexts, but its viability depends on scale, coordination, and human nature. Small, tight-knit communities—like early human tribes, some intentional communes, or disaster-response networks—have successfully used mutual aid to meet needs without centralized authority. Examples include the Amish, who rely on community support for welfare, or post-disaster volunteer networks that distribute resources faster than bureaucracies.
However, scaling mutual aid to replace government entirely faces challenges. Governments provide standardized systems—laws, infrastructure, defense, and public services—that require consistent coordination across millions. Mutual aid often struggles with free-riders (people who take without giving), conflict resolution, and ensuring equitable resource distribution. Historical attempts, like some anarchist communes, often dissolved due to internal disputes or external pressures. Data from the World Bank shows that even in high-trust societies, centralized systems outperform purely cooperative ones in delivering complex services like healthcare or education at scale.
A hybrid could work: mutual aid for local, immediate needs (e.g., food banks, community childcare) paired with minimal government for large-scale functions (e.g., roads, defense). Blockchain-based systems or DAOs (Decentralized Autonomous Organizations) are modern experiments in this,aiming to codify cooperation without centralized control, but they’re still nascent and face governance issues.
It’s a spectrum—mutual aid can replace some government functions, especially in high-trust or crisis scenarios, but fully replacing government requires solving coordination and scalability problems that humans haven’t yet cracked. What do you think—could tech or cultural shifts make this more feasible?
Q: "is a system of helping each other a viable alternative for a government"
A: "A system of helping each other—often referred to as mutual aid, voluntaryism, or communal self-governance—can provide some of the functions of government, but whether it's a viable alternative to a government entirely depends on the scale, complexity, and goals of the society.
Here's a breakdown:
✅ Where "helping each other" can work well:
Small-scale communities:
In villages, intentional communities, or tribes, mutual aid and consensus-based decision-making often work effectively.
Examples: Indigenous governance systems, kibbutzim in Israel, or some anarchist communes.
Disaster relief or crisis situations:
Grassroots mutual aid often outperforms slow bureaucratic responses (e.g., during Hurricane Katrina or COVID-19).
Non-hierarchical societies:
Communities committed to shared values (e.g., equality, cooperation, sustainability) can sustain systems without a formal government.
❌ Where it struggles as a full replacement:
Large-scale coordination:
Infrastructure (roads, utilities, defense) requires long-term planning, resource pooling, and enforcement—hard to do through informal cooperation.
Inequality and free riders:
Without formal enforcement, people may take advantage of the system or avoid contributing, which undermines stability.
Dispute resolution and justice:
Governments typically offer courts and legal systems. Voluntary systems may lack consistent, fair enforcement.
Security and defense:
Organizing collective defense or policing without coercion or hierarchy is extremely difficult at scale.
🧠 Viable in theory, but in practice…
Philosophies like anarchism, libertarian socialism, and communitarianism envision societies run entirely on mutual aid and voluntary cooperation.
Real-world attempts (e.g., Rojava in Syria, Zapatista territories in Mexico, 1930s Catalonia) show both the promise and limits of these models.
🔄 Hybrid models may be more realistic
Many governments already rely partly on civil society and mutual aid:
Volunteer fire departments
Food banks
Local co-ops
These systems complement, rather than replace, formal government.
Summary:
Viable in small, aligned communities or as a complementary system.
Challenging to scale as a complete replacement for government functions in large, diverse, modern societies.
Would you like to explore historical examples or philosophical frameworks behind this idea?"
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So, it can work for "Small-scale communities".
That's the 200 people that I was talking about.
Are you going to divide up the country in small-scale communities?
What are you going to do when a hurricane flattens your whole community?
Is another community going to help you? Why? How?
If you have a poor community, will you move to a rich community?
Is there trade happening between those communities?
IT DOESN'T WORK!
A government is a collection of communities that is organized to share risks
and resources. It solves all the problems that a collection of communities causes.
you try to insert government and by the 3rd generation you would have a corrupt mess with only the governments housing being nice and the others being junk,kinda like now in alot of countries>
there is no reason for governments to corrupt, when people are vigilant.
Tribes cannot be larger than around 200 people, because that our biological ability to see people as family and extended family.
Then we have a hard time feeling solidarity to one-another, which is what your system needs to want to help your "neighbor".
It's not my principle to have a big powerful government that does everything for everyone, I have a principle of SOLIDARITY. That's the starting point. Why? Because when we have solidarity with each other, it ends or reduces almost every problem of humanity. You don't go to war with people that you think of as your "tribe", you only go to war with other "tribes". It's impossible to change the human nature that limits our feeling of who belongs to our "tribe", so the goal is to extend our tribe through REPRESENTATION. Communities vote on representatives, who share our values and represent our ideals and interests. That's on a local level, the size of at maximum a city. The local communities and their representatives come together regularly and discuss their ideas, and the representative communicates what's happening in the local government and takes responsibility. That's not like your town halls, that I've seen where the "representatives" talk down to their electorate. Recently they fear even coming there, because they are not doing what their constituents have voted them in for. In any case it's a system of several steps, from city, to province, to region, to country. The representatives from the different levels all come together regularly, in the same way that the citizens come together with their direct representative. It communicates up and down (vertical) and between the same levels (horizontal). At every level, there is a maximum of people who can just about have that "tribe" feeling together, from the city level, to the country level, because of that level approach. Very important is that every representative only has the job, as long as they have the support of their "tribe", and gets replaced at a vote's notice. That's the democratic system of government that my party has designed, and it is much different than any other party. There are also gatherings that skip levels, I'm going to a region conference on Saturday, which is for all local representatives and volunteers (just interested citizens) from the municipalities. That's where we meet each other, to get that "tribe" feeling with other provinces. That's how you organize solidarity, between people who normally wouldn't feel solidarity to each other.
Again, we didn't start with an idea of a government, we started with a goal. Many decades of philosophizing, scientific research and discussion has resulted in the policies and organization that the party now conveys. The discussions never stop, we go back to the bare basics every other year and the party program is discussed every year. Every member can propose any change. When they present their reason, the change can be voted in. My local board has changed one detail that we discussed.
I have a plan for something I want to change, next time.
Now you tell me how you want to achieve something for a whole country, when you get your helping neighbors system.
Prove him wrong, without personal attacks.
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Julie Sweeney, a 53-year-old woman, was sentenced to 15 months in prison for posting an offensive and threatening message on a Facebook community group.
now leo, you should be able to see the slippery slope that precedent could lead into.
There is no law against criticizing Israel, but there are laws against directly threatening specific people with violence or death.
It's not just the UK where threatening other people with bodily harm or death
is illegal, it is illegal in the US too.
Every state in the U.S. has laws that prohibit threats of violence between citizens. Many states use terms like:
- "Criminal threats"
- "Terroristic threats"
- "Menacing"
- "Assault" (in some states, words alone can constitute assault)
These laws generally prohibit:
- Threatening to cause bodily harm or death
- Doing so in a way that puts the victim in reasonable fear
- Often requiring that the threat be intentional and specific
Who are you referring to, when you say "the brits put people in jail over facebook post"?
If it's the case that leopoldij is talking about, incitement is not protected free speech.
Is Hasan Piker accused of incitement, or are they just intimidating him, because he is criticizing Trump, which IS protected free speech?
um, a 1000 bucks per papoose born and given a social security number. then the parents and such can invest in this account over time.
kinda leaning towards socialism is it not>?
check this out
if you enforce the border,people stop trying to cross over,thus making our country safer.what a concept.
and then human trafficking them to a concentration camp in a dictatorship.
You are the criminals, and you turned America into a criminal regime.
That's not making your country safer. When the law is gone, it's gone FOR YOU TOO.
ICE is literally arresting people AFTER they showed proof that they are legal immigrants
or even citizens of the US. They are now Trump's Gestapo.
Sure, keep watching 'News'Max. Keep lying to yourself, by looking away.
Hitler had the same propaganda outlet, defending his holocaust.
Every Nazi who survived WWII either left Germany or felt guilt the rest of their lives.
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there is just a couple examples of issues with "documents".
are they real? who knows. i could get a fake id and it say i was elon musk but it wouldn't take long for a government official to spot a issue with my documentation.
You have provided no evidence of any of them deserving life imprisonment
in a El Salvador concentration camp. Baseless allegations, nothing more.
Everyone has constitutional rights to due process.
There is NO justification for a country breaking the law,
even when it's related to people breaking the law.
You have turned your country into a shit-hole country.
I'm not saying trump WILL destroy America, because he already has.
Why did Republicans ever call themselves the "Party of Law and Order"?
They're the "Party of Crime, Corruption and Anti-Democracy" now.
how can you rationalize that?
there is nothing giving the illegals any more rights than natural born citizens,nor is there anything written giving them the rights to our assistance programs. these things are meant for citizens unless it is a liberal bunch then they will drive past a homeless veteran to give goods and services to a illegal, the bastards.
we have a issue with gangs coming into the us, robbing peoples homes and fleeing back to their shit hole countries,impossiable to catch.
you don't seem to have any concept of law and it's enforcement.
prison is not supposed to be fun, hell if it was, honest people would want to go there.
Many of them have green cards or had gotten asylum.
You keep saying shit that should be proven in court first.
It's because of YOUR RIGHTS, that they should have rights.
What right will you lose, if they get due process? NOTHING!!!
If Joe Rogan understands this, it's very clear, because he's a dumb-ass.
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That's what happens when you don't care about people's rights.
You support taking away people's rights, making everything like that worse.
When YOU don't care about other people rights, that's the result you get.
When you don't care about the rights of some people, EVERYONE LOSES.
Those are the basic principles your founding fathers based your country on.
When you don't understand that, they should put YOU trough the naturalization process, because you're UN-American.
They are innocent American citizens, until you prove they are not.
Do you understand anything about how the law works?
How would you like to be arrested for murder, and you're just executed?
The police says they found this dead person near your house, so you're guilty.
No lawyer, no judge, they just say you did it, and put you on the electric chair.
That's what you support.
By law, countries have a responsibility to accept real refugees, even if they entered a country illegally. That's because some people are fleeing for their lives. That always takes preference over laws on border security. That's why everyone has a RIGHT to be heard by a court of law.
Additionally, ICE has been caught kidnapping many people who DID show them their PAPERS. They WERE legally living and working in your country, but they got human trafficked to a concentration camp in the OG Banana Republic ANYWAY. That's a crime, committed by your government. Since your government is now committing many crimes, that's why they don't want any judges involved.
You're the one not thinking this thru. You're the one supporting crimes, I'm not.
I'm perfectly fine with deporting illegals, ones a judge determines them to be an illegal, and not a real refugee. EVERYONE has rights, according to your Constitution. Those rights don't fall away when someone breaks the law.
You don't need to be a citizen of the US, to be protected against a fascist who wants to lock you away for the rest of your life, no matter what laws you broke.
Trump is literally ignoring a 9/0 Supreme Court judgement.
How is that not cause for his immediate removal from office?
If Biden had done that, you wanted him executed the same day.
send them out if they are illegal.
of course they are running for their lives, they didnt have shit at home so they came here to get shit and have a better life. not many are actually targets of a drug cartel or other threat of violence.
Now you think this will take ages? Don't act like you're stupid.
Do you know how long a murder trail lasts?
Let's skip that, when you're accused of it. Let's assume you're just lying.
"send them out if they are illegal"
How many times do I need to repeat that they are locked up in a prison camp, known for beating people to death, in a Banana Republic?
The record shows that at least 90% of them have committed NO CRIMES. Some of them are indeed illegal, but lots of them HAD LEGAL STATUS.
They are locking up people for LIFE over there, and you keep defending that. That's worse than what you would get for one or two murders. Do you think that's fitting punishment for just being in your country without permission?
You cannot make me understand that, because I am a decent human being.
You obviously are NOT.
And just because Biden looked the other way and gave them app does not mean legal.
Stay in YOUR lane cunt-
He didn't lock up LEGAL immigrants in a concentration camp for life.
If you used your brain, I wouldn't need to get out of my lane.
If you were not so clearly wrong all the time, we could actually have a discussion on what decisions would improve our lives. Instead you are defending EVIL, because you're told that the other side wants to replace you with brown people.
Why don't you recognize the most transparent lies in history, that have been used to trick people, to support evil for thousands of years?
"Them people want hurt you! We hurt them first, GRUNT!!"
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cat worships the soil obama spat on, did she miss this back when it happened?
However, you're probably including everyone who was apprehended on the border.
I'm not complaining when you put them back on the other side of it immediately, IF you also provide them with options to request asylum legally, which Democrats have been fighting for, for decades, and was denied and crushed by Republicans for decades.
Trump isn't just apprehending people on the border, he is letting ICE kidnap LEGAL, undocumented and ILLEGAL immigrants alike, who have been in your country working and paying taxes for often many years, and transporting them to a prison camp in the worst dictatorship in South America. He's braking the law and refusing to listen to judges and even the Supreme Court.
Obama didn't do any of that. You're spouting record levels of False Equivalence.
but you don't have to be this clear about it.
Maybe the cunt should pay attention to what the migrants are doing to his country... rapes, robberies, etc are all on the rise..
No matter what the stats tell you that are manipulated
That's not the issue here. Trump is putting people in a El Salvador prison camp, who were LEGALLY living in your country and did NOT BREAK THE LAW.
Those prisons are FUCKING HORRIBLE and they are LOCKED UP FOR LIFE.
You wouldn't even do that to a murderer. And these people are INNOCENT!
Your horrible regime is making up bullshit about MS13 tattoos.
Even if it was true, but it's not, is a tattoo now a life sentence crime?
By the way, your crime is NOT on the rise, it's been lowering for years.
The only crime that is going up is mass murder with AR-13s.
And that's your own stupid people, mostly right-wing lunatics.
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Ban doritos!
I guess kennedy is right:
Eating doritos make you gay.
Ah, yes, they also give you autism.
Well, at least you were way ahead of them.
I buy the real Doritos maybe 3 times per year.
I liked the concept of Doritos Roulette. We had that a few times.
Unfortunately the hot ones weren't really that hot.
I think Doritos Flamin' Hot has a whole bag of those hot ones
and I eat those like they are paprika chips.
I hope for you that Duke's Mayo won't go woke. The owner, Sauer Brands Inc.,
in Greenville, was recently sold to a Advent International, a northern firm.
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They make a damn woke first impression. Just saying.
I'm sure you'll all LOVE IT.
How to take on Trump’s ‘unhinged’ politics | Rutger Bregman | The Fourcast
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Do you think trump has read them?
Nah, he only reads toilet paper labels.
I did watch/listen to several YouTube videos, where he explains his ideas.
Somehow, I don't think Trump reads a lot either.
to think of a formula. His whole administration is evidence of him not being able to put together a team of people who know anything. The only thing they know is what serves them and how to suck up to Trump.
Did your eyesight deteriorate, or do you just need the right glasses?
Sometimes opticians only measure your visual impairment for distance and not
for close up, which can differ a lot. I have 4 glasses, all with different focal lengths, which I switch depending on the job I'm doing.
well i just read that china and the us have a deal worked out so lets see what is said tomorrow.
instead of you telling us how great it is, afterwards?
That supports the conclusion that DOGE didn't just break the law, but that they are traitors to The Constitution.
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Another whistle-blower telling on your crime lords.
This is great.
Europeans have an aversion to fascists. They're not buying their products. Excellent.
Tesla sales were down 67% in Denmark, 74% in the Netherlands and 33% in Portugal, according to data from trade groups in each of those countries. Sales were also down 81% in Sweden, and 59% in France, according to Reuters.
we don't need much shit from europe either.
Most people just need to get to work and back.
They cannot afford a car that chugs 10 MPG.
They understand that when it's Nike, Bud Light, Disney or Target, when they are outraged over something they consider 'woke', but they will never understand it
when the other side does it over destroying democracy and human rights violations.
And how crazy is it that the US congress passed Anti-BDS Laws?
It's legal to boycott American products, but illegal to ban products made in Israel or
on land that Israel illegally occupies. There is no more clear violation of free speech.
If my government tried to do that, I would join the mob to burn them down.
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that would drive people up the friggen wall. but you know what?,of all the scandals Trump has been blamed for ,none have involved little boys. so um.
the fact that other politicians and you take it seriously is humiliating.
You have one point, none of Trump's scandals involve little boys,
little girls, SURE.
Pope Francis did better than most to fight against that sexual abuse in the Church.
He was hated by your side. Was that one of the reasons?
The third problem is that trump should show some respect for the largest branch of Christianity, especially because he declares religious. Of course, he's not religious. He's bullshitting. Christianity is the opposite of Trump's values.
The fourth problem is that he's doing that to test waters. He thinks "what else can I do in order to show that I'm the greatest person on earth AND in order that my minions adhere to me even more strongly?" He posts himself as a pope, he gets no reaction from the magas (in fact he's been praised and hailed), so he has just managed to push the boundary a bit further.
With MAGA it's easy, there is no limit to the depravity they'll accept.
But the liberal media is accepting more and more too. That's dangerous.
why the hell can't you just laugh at what most take as a joke and go on with your lives instead of inserting meaningless meaning into it?
i don't want any president to be a stuck up,dried up, spineless wimp.
i want them to have a sense of humor,and some common sense.
I expect him to protect THE CONSTITUTION, like all presidents before him.
What right do you think you have, that I think Trump shouldn't have?
You only want a sense of humor for YOUR presidents, if a Democrat said anything like that, you would impeach him. Remember your side's outrage about Obama wearing a tan suit?
I repeat; it's not his joke, it's that senators took it seriously.
Still, it's small potatoes. At this very moment, they are trying hard to implement loopholes to give Trump a third term. That's more serious.
THAT ALSO STARTED WITH A JOKE.
The problem is that Trump jokes a lot about FUCKING EVIL THINGS,
and we know he ain't joking. He's just preparing YOU for supporting it.
Newly elected Pope Leo XIV spent years amplifying criticism of President Trump’s policies on social media — with the Catholic Church’s first American leader taking particular aim at the Republican’s hard-line immigration stance.
Don't you love that?
In April, when Trump met with El Salvador President Nayib Bukele to discuss using a prison where alleged human rights abuses took place to jail suspected gang members flown from the United States, the new pope reposted a comment that included:
"Do you not see the suffering? Is your conscience not disturbed?"
Incredible, isn't it?
What will your criminal cry baby do?
As for the second baby, he said.
"JD Vance is wrong: Jesus doesn't ask us to rank our love for
others."
How is the possible?
Will you and your maga mob allow that to on?
You gotta roll up your sleeves and go punch his face hard for having the audacity talk about Christianity in ways that aren't approved by trump?
Trump said, through his faith office, that the poor are poor because they're sinners and the rich are rich because they're god-fearing. Trump's Christianity is the opposite of the newly elected Pope's.
Unacceptable, ain't it?
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Hey phart, I was right. Your fellow assholes are protesting that the new pope doesn't seem to like licking your god's ass and eating his feces (a.k.a. shit):
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Ha ha
FUCK YOU LEOPOLDIJ
this is damn good,
1 minute in ,this man explains how stupid tampon tim really is.
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Failed to forward deploy with his unit and thinks men need tampons.
A fucking idiot
i guess he wants the states welfare program to help pay for these to?
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But you need to believe them, because you cannot think of anything else.
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We talked about these two allegations before, and you are ignoring everything.
I even showed you the law about those tampons, proving them liars.
Calling Walz a coward is bullshit. His function wouldn't have put him in any danger,
if he went to war. Officers like that are sitting behind a desk. There wasn't any fear associated with him leaving the military and he didn't put anyone in danger by leaving.
When Trump dodged the Vietnam War draft, with his bone spurs note, someone very likely died in his place.
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The issue is that the neo-nazi party AfD was classified by the German intelligence service as an extremist organization. Which is correct. Nazis are extremists and simply wish to kill anyone who doesn't agree with totalitarianism.
Any democratic country would agree with the decision. Germany simply wishes to keep an eye to AfD terrorists.
However, trump's administration were quick to criticize Germany's decision and said that they want AfD to be given the equal participation in society.
First of all, the US should mind its own business.
Second, Germany is simply calling the Nazis Nazis. The US has agreed with this continuously from 1940 to 2025. And now, the US makes a 180° turn and says:
"We made a mistake that we fought against the Nazis 80 years ago. They're good guys. We're going to take their side now and protect them in any way we can everywhere in the world."
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democracy is based on several ideas ,1 of which is free speech.
just because you don't agree with a group,doesn't mean you can call them terrorist.no more than our government could label Christians as terrorist.
Trump had a dinner with Kanye West and white supremacist Nick Fuentes.
There is no reason to do that, besides liking them.