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Started by kebmo at 19,Jul,18 05:03  other posts of kebmo
I'm sure a lot of people here don't want to talk about the US President. I am also sure that there are a lot of people that do want to so let's do it here so they won't have to "listen" to us if they choose not to.
I watch a LOT of news, Canadian and American. I don't get Foxx News but I do get CNN and MSNBC which are very left leaning. The two Canadian news networks, CBC News and CTV News are more middle of the road. I watch the late shows too and I especially like Seth Myers' "A Closer Look".

Let's talk Trump!

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By #601496 at 04,Dec,19 09:28


By penis-misterluke3 at 30,Nov,19 13:06 other posts of penis-misterluke3 
hello friends,
don't forget that Mr. Trump has made bad experiences with birds as you could see when he was attacked by a life eagle. So I think it's the best way for him to flee the United States on Thanksgiving and keep the distance to any birds like eagles, turkeys, chicks, and so on
By #601496 at 04,Dec,19 09:18

By kebmo at 04,Dec,19 04:21 other posts of kebmo 
Hunter pleads guilty for misusing campaign funds.

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By phart at 29,Nov,19 18:06 other posts of phart 
Instead of spending the day at home here in the US,Trump went to Afganistan and spent time with the troops.

I also could not help but giggle when I watched the full video of Trump Pardoning the turkeys. He said they were raised to be albe to cope with stress and that Schiff had them set for thursday in his basement to testify!

By kebmo at 27,Nov,19 05:13 other posts of kebmo 
Trump said that there was talk about changing the name of Thanksgiving. I doubt that.

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By phart at 27,Nov,19 08:31 other posts of phart 
It is a shame Trump had to leave his home state because it has turned into such a crap hole but maby his presence in Florida will help that state before it is to late.
If it were up to the liberals,everyday would be a holiday and no work would ever get done.
The only change I would like to see made is to move the holidays to Sundays instead of them landing on week days.
This would save millions of dollars in paid holiday leave and the trouble of shutting down factorys and restarting the machines and so forth.
Schools could teach 5 days a week.The holiday celebrated on the weekend, the workers could be back on the job monday,the kids back in school and so forth.The country could operate alot smoother.
By kebmo at 27,Nov,19 12:32 other posts of kebmo 
No holiday weekends? I know that would never fly in Canada. Some days just can't be changed like Jan 1, July 1, Nov 11 an Dec 25.
By Scorps at 27,Nov,19 17:48 other posts of Scorps 
Except for the Jan. 1st and the Dec. 25th, what is the significance of the other dates?
By phart at 27,Nov,19 19:57 other posts of phart 
It is a thought.Think about the extra trouble companys have to go thru to shut down plants mid week,the money they pay for "holidays" they get nothing from.Which paid vacation is basicly the same thing but the plant or company works on with a sub or whatever.
I just think Thanksgiving could be on the 4th Sunday of november,Christmas the 4 th sunday of december.Of course new years date can't be moved but the date of observation could be.
By Scorps at 27,Nov,19 20:20 other posts of Scorps 
Hmmmmmm I disagree!

I think people lose TOO much of their lives already, putting in 5 or more day weeks, generally making someone else rich. I would be an advocate for 4 day weeks maximum, UNLESS people wanted or needed to make more, via overtime for some dire need of more money for a short term reason. That would give 3 days a week instead of 2 to enjoy life, spending more time with loved ones. Albeit, I appreciate companies for giving me a position, or a job, let's face it. They don't need to be SO fucking greedy. I could personally NEVER bring myself to say oh the poor company has to pay for holidays, vacations etc. I think that's the least they could do for someone who dedicates 40 years of their life to the company all the while the company gets rich and the worker never gets much more thanks for their efforts other than a paycheck. BOO HOO for Companies... Pfffft Please!

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I've had one too many positions where the company has gotten rich from MY hard work and dedication. Some of it is my own fault as many times I've learned of what the company was actually making off of ME. I was the one out there representing them, I was the one doing all the work. I got 1/10th of what was being charged. Don't you think that's just a little excessive or greedy? Don't get me entirely wrong, I appreciate that THEY founded the company, find the work, etc. It's all the things I have NO interest in doing myself. Therefore I'm grateful to a certain extent. But the person out doing all the real work gets crumbs. It's something many people don't really realize how much they actually make for someone else. I think the margins are despicable, to be honest. Is it REALLY necessary for a Company or an Organization to be grossing hundreds of millions of dollars and paying their employees barely enough to get by? Why should that be ok?
By #601496 at 28,Nov,19 12:39
Well, for once I almost everything. I don’t like the four day week.
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The reason is that the third day would fall in the middle of the week
By phart at 28,Nov,19 12:49 other posts of phart 
Well you have to remember,if folks didn't start companys,and employ people at all,we would be vultures and cavemen as there would be no income.
The risk that people take to start companys that employee others is great,and not all succeed.

40 hours a week is is the people that are greedy for the Bmw's and Starbucks 7 days aweek that work 3 jobs to cover the cost.
Scorps ,You say 4 day week so folks can spend time with fanily.How many people do you think would actually do that? Hardly any.It would be more time to work a second job,another night to party and sober up the next day,and so on.
Seesh,the thread took a drift because of a small thing that has bothered me.
But folks want to "create" jobs. Why not open the bank a second shift,the investment in hardware ,building and such is there,just open it so folks can do bussiness more often when it is best for their work schedule. Want to reduce wait times for surgerys and employee folks? Great Idea, doctors offices open 3 shifts 24-7. Operations at 2 am be there at midnight.
The work is there,the equipment is there,just the people want to work 8 hours and shut down and wonder why folks can't find jobs.
By #601496 at 28,Nov,19 13:33
Perhaps, and I’m not passing judgement, you don’t know how hard it is on family life to work a second and third shift. Also, some jobs lend themselves to be successful in operating more than one shift. Some it would not pay. For instance, the ER dept of a hospital. It’s open 24/7 but at night, few patients arrived and almost all are emergency while I the daylight hours there are lines waiting service.

By #601496 at 28,Nov,19 12:46
You can’t change Christmas, Fourth of July, New Year’s, or Thanksgiving. All national holidays are employee perks and part of their work contract

By sinanff47 at 28,Nov,19 18:00 other posts of sinanff47 
Scorps, I thought you were a well educated guy, but since you asked:

November 11 is 'Remembrance Day' in most of the Western World ('Veterans Day' in US.).

And kebmo, as you can readily see here, is from Canada, where July 1 is 'Canada Day', (easily found in any search).
By #601496 at 28,Nov,19 18:09
Sorry to say I forgot about Canadian holidays but., like in the USA, they also fall between Jan 1 and Dec31.

By mr_blue at 27,Nov,19 16:15 other posts of mr_blue 

By Scorps at 27,Nov,19 18:34 other posts of Scorps 
A REAL fighter! 😍

By kebmo at 27,Nov,19 22:33 other posts of kebmo 
Of course! 🤣
By mr_blue at 28,Nov,19 02:10 other posts of mr_blue 
He posted that on his Twitter....
I guess he sees himself a bit differently..
Or maybe he's still bothered by this guy?
By kebmo at 28,Nov,19 02:21 other posts of kebmo 
Barack HUSSEIN Obama will drive Trump nuts for the rest of Trump's life. You can't buy class.
It's snowing in Denver this Thanksgiving weekend. It's that fucking Obama's fault of course.

By Scorps at 23,Nov,19 04:19 other posts of Scorps 
@ Twowarmtts!

You just keep repeating over and over endlessly how Obama is in the past and why do some of us keep bringing him up. I will attempt once again to illustrate the HYPOCRISY that you just cannot seem to grasp.


The ABSOLUTE proof of spying on an American citizen, AND a political opponent, Donald J. Trump, started under Barry's watch! There's NO way, as the POTUS, that he did not know what was going on, on HIS watch. COLLUSION with Russia and Ukraine to UNDERMINE Donald J. Trumps campaign was initiated by the DEMOCRAPS!! That's where the REAL COLLUSION was going on. You people are SO upset that he mentioned Joe Bidens name on his call with the Ukrainian President. So, just the mere name mentioning has your feathers all ruffled up but not the fact that there was a REAL effort to undermine our current President, then candidate. THAT'S HYPOCRISY 101!!

NEXT! There IS proof that something was afoul stated by Joe Biden himself, his own words, no one else's. JOE BIDEN stating... Fire the prosecutor OR we are not giving you the aid. Reeks of quid pro quo to ANY sane person. ON VIDEO no less which I have previously linked for YOU before! The VERY thing you people are accusing Donald J. Trump of. Here's the exception! The Don, has gotten NOTHING in return for ANYTHING from the Ukrainians! YET! Joe Biden stated himself that they (the Ukrainians) DID in fact do what he asked for, thereby making his bad decision a REAL CRIME or a quid pro quo!

As you people like to preach... NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!

Not Hillary Clinton, Not Barry Obama, Not Joe Biden, Not Adam Schitt, Not Hunter Biden!

JUST because Joe Biden is running for President, does NOT give him a pass for HIS OWN STATEMENT of a BRIBE, QUID PRO QUO, or whatever you wanna label it. NOR does it give him a free pass simply because his time and Obummers time in the oval office has expired.

Now! You want them to be forgiven and forgotten, perhaps they shouldn't have started throwing stones at someone KNOWING GOTDAMNED GOOD AND WELL that THEY actually committed the VERY crimes that they are accusing President Donald J. Trump of.

THAT'S HYPOCRISY! For the umpteenth time for YOU!

Once again, we have actual proof of the previous administration's transgressions. You people have ZIP!
The Aid was released, there was no statement made by the Ukrainians, and they did in fact meet. What you got is a bunch of conjecture, opinion, guesses, simply put... A BUNCH of BULLSHIT!

Lastly, the BULLSHIT started by the Democraps is making us the laughingstock of the world. NOT the President! That only exists in YOUR mind. This whole BULLSHIT scam is dividing our country which is not good for American citizens.

You don't like the guy, fine! You don't like his beliefs, fine! You don't like his policies, fine! You don't like his ideologies, fine! You don't like his abrasive mannerisms, fine!

Then BEAT him the proper way and put someone forth capable of doing such. NOT BY A BULLSHIT IMPEACHMENT SCAM! That alone shows how cowardly the Democraps truly are. You can't beat a duly elected President so, you start scratching for every crumb you can and try to beat him with an ill conceived impeachment cause you can't beat him at the ballot box.

Frankly, it's sad and disgusting and dividing a nation who's strength comes from be UNITED!

Have you figured out HYPOCRISY yet?

Oh! The other thing you like to imply around here is that he's getting rich somehow or another by his Presidency. Perhaps you should look and see what Obummer was worth before he took office and what he's worth now. Allowing him to purchase a multi-million dollar mansion in an exclusive area. Now! Who actually got rich from their Presidency? I believe even the Clintons net worth substantially raised after serving. Donald J. Trump is already rich and I highly doubt ANYONE is buying him. Unlike the last two crooked ass Democraps to have held office. Put that in your pipe and smoke it! 🧐

By #601496 at 18,Nov,19 09:38
How FedEx Cut Its Tax Bill to $0

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By phart at 18,Nov,19 10:10 other posts of phart 
How did this fuck the middle man? Not trying to be a ass asking that as much as trying to understand why that hurt the middle man.
The Way I see it it clearly states they invested in large contributions to employee pension plans.That improves the middle mans FUTURE. Unless you expect the middle man to drop dead the day after he retires?
Retirement accounts are really drained,and alot of baby boomers are retireing every day.So that is a major investment.Better the folks live off the retirement account than trying to make it off government pensions only. Which is why the NY times does not like that,it is not a socialist idea to have a independant retirement from the government.

At least shipping cost didn't rise alot.That affects the middle man.
By #601496 at 18,Nov,19 12:09
The CEO of FedEx said himself that the company did not re-invest that savings. If your 401K has FedEx stock then you get dividends but it's not that much. The trend, reported by non-partisan economic studies, have started to report that this tax break is not being reinvested into manufacturing or jobs. Trickle down economics have not worked before and it's not working now.
By phart at 18,Nov,19 13:17 other posts of phart 
It is not working "quick enough" for the younger "want it right now" folks.That is the issue. I don't know how much dividends you get on your investments,but the folks I know with money that have large investments,are doing WELL and never touching the princiable.
Later on I bet they will invest it back into the company.But as with a sinking ship,you patch the biggest hole first. The retirement system must have been their worse problem,so they attacked it first before policy changes left them without the option to do so. When Trump has finished his 2 terms as President,if a democrat gets in there,you can rest assured the "big companys" will be gouged yet again with tax burdens.Fedex's retirement wont be the first thing to suffer,and probably by then,nor will their infastructur for a while.Perhaps long enough to survive the 4 years of a dem prez.
It takes time for Trickle down to work.That is what frustrates some folks. A trickle from the sink takes longer to fill up the bucket.but the bucket has water in it.Unlike a deluge from a fire hose,all once then 6 months later,no water.
By #601496 at 18,Nov,19 17:36
Really? every one wants it "right now". Trumpo has been president almost 3 yrs. Any other president who made a promise to the voters like he did would be in trouble.

By phart at 17,Nov,19 15:33 other posts of phart 
Copied from my weekly email.

The day President Donald Trump was sworn into office on January 20, 2017, the Washington Post ran the headline, "The campaign to impeach President Trump has begun.”

This was over two years ago. Since then, we have been bombarded with even more headlines and stories as Washington Democrats continue their partisan efforts to impeach President Trump. Earlier this month, I wrote a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi and I’d like to share some of it with you: “Our Founding Fathers warned of the impeachment process being abused for partisan purposes. In the Federalist Papers No. 65, Alexander Hamilton warned ‘there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the comparative strength of parties, than by the real demonstration of innocence or guilt.’ Last week when the House of Representatives voted on the impeachment resolution, H.Res. 660, there was only partisan support for it to move forward, while opposition was bipartisan. Despite the clear message sent by this vote, the majority party continues to push forward with this political farce.”

Unfortunately, important work Congress must get done has been completely sidelined. Last week, Speaker Pelosi suddenly recessed the House so Democrats could focus exclusively on their partisan impeachment scam. That’s unacceptable and you deserve better. Instead of working in a bipartisan way to address the most pressing issues facing our nation, they have continued the witch hunt that began on Inauguration Day and continues to waste time.

For starters, we should be working on funding for our government – which is set to run out this week. Absent of a deal to fund government programs for fiscal year 2020, Congress will have to pass a continuing resolution which will kick the can further down the road or the government will shut down.
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I wonder if the government shuts down,will the impeachment process have to stop to? I mean,it is tax funded?
By #601496 at 17,Nov,19 18:36
Phart, there's only 22 members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Nine are Republican. They are the ones that will decide if Trump should get impeached. If they reach that decision, there is a vote in the House to impeach or not. The vote will take less than one day. There are 435 House members out of whom 413 are working through other things that are important. What's more, and we saw this when they stopped for a vote on the floor of the house, other House business continues. So, why do you imply the work of the House has stopped?
As far as the talk about impeachment at the start of Trump’s presidency, it was not a stretch to believe he would screw up big enough to impeach. Case in point, now.
I remember when Obama was sworn in, many, many, many right wingers swore they would not let him finish his 1st term, let alone getting reelected. It hurts getting the same treatment, doesn't it?
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BTW, you always bitch about the "partisan" way things are done. Do I have to remind you nothing is being done in the Senate because McConnell is blocking everything and every Republican there has already said they will not convict the president NO MATTER WHAT?
THERE'S AN old saying. Don't cut off your nose to spite your face. We need a new president. Republican or Democrat, anyone but this lawbreaking one.

By #601496 at 17,Nov,19 18:43
Phart, there's only 22 members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence. Nine are Republican. They are the ones that will decide if Trump should get impeached. If they reach that decision, there is a vote in the House to impeach or not. The vote will take less than one day. There are 435 House members out of whom 413 are working through other things that are important. What's more, and we saw this when they stopped for a vote on the floor of the house, other House business continues. So, why do you imply the work of the House has stopped?
As far as the talk about impeachment at the start of Trump’s presidency, it was not a stretch to believe he would screw up big enough to impeach. Case in point, now.
I remember when Obama was sworn in, many, many, many right wingers swore they would not let him finish his 1st term, let alone getting reelected. It hurts getting the same treatment, doesn't it?
By phart at 17,Nov,19 19:53 other posts of phart 
Your congressman is in the same building as mine,I can't help if he is not seeing the same thing as mine.I just copied and pasted what I marked as copied from my congressmans weekly email.Contact your own congressman and read his weekly reports as I do mine.May help clear things up.

I did ask the question,will the impeachment be on hold if the government shuts down? I would hate to think the democrats would want to risk homeland security or something trying to keep the horse and pony show going.
By #601496 at 17,Nov,19 20:17
You can't take everything you get as truth. I don't need to contact my congressman to realize what makes sense. The Republicans have no way to defend the president so they come up with crap to scare the public. I just sent you true reasons why your email lies. You are smart enough to verify it and agree. Congress does not shut down if government shuts down. The costs are funded in a secure way. Use your noodle. If Congress shuts down, who would vote the new budget needed to get the government going. Remember when the asshole-in-chief caused the government to shut down when they wouldn't vote to fund the wall? Congress continued.

By kebmo at 15,Nov,19 21:27 other posts of kebmo 
Now a sixth person has been convicted or pleaded guilty to charges because of the Mueller investigation.

"A federal jury on Friday found Roger Stone guilty of lying to Congress and witness tampering in relation to his work on President Trump’s 2016 campaign, which means the longtime Republican operative joins the roster of former Trump associates who ran afoul of the law as a result of Robert Mueller’s investigation into Russian election interference."

The "Witch Hunt" continues.

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By #601496 at 17,Nov,19 12:53

Let it continue. Soon, with GOD's help my biggest wish will come true

By #601496 at 13,Nov,19 08:59
On Tuesday it emerged that a top official in the Trump administration added more than a little embellishment to her CV: according to an NBC News investigation, Mina Chang flaunted a Harvard education that in fact amounted to a seven-week course in 2016; she invented herself a role on a UN panel; and even created a fake Time magazine cover with her face on it.

Maybe she was just following in her boss’s footsteps – after all, Trump has shown himself to be partial to fake covers. In 2017, he was asked to remove his own phony framed Time covers from several of his golf clubs.

Trump hit back. "It was only one club."
By phart at 14,Nov,19 14:29 other posts of phart 
You know there is something called photoshop.
And so what if Trump had a 1000 photoshopped Time covers hanging in HIS GOLF clubs? DUH, HIS clubs.He could hang photos of YOU in there if he so wanted to.
By #601496 at 14,Nov,19 15:54
Yes, he could photoshop and did. Yes, it was his club. The covers of Time are intellectual property and copyrighted. Trump can't use it without permission if he let's the general public see it. The same with a person's pic. He has to get a release.
By phart at 14,Nov,19 22:21 other posts of phart 
UM,I don't know,if he were to post a photo of you on a Time magazine cover,he might not need a release.Here,you are under a ficticous name. So you are a charactor like in a movie.So it would be similar to the memes we see with tv stars and words under them.Now,if you had photos of yourself here,and were posted under your name, Mary Jane Brown for example,then he would be expected to contact you and ask permission.Just a theory but I would think there is a grey area.
By #601496 at 15,Nov,19 06:39
That's why members get kicked out for using other member's pic without permission.

By Scorps at 15,Nov,19 06:19 other posts of Scorps 
This is just TOO ridiculous to even comment on...
By #601496 at 15,Nov,19 06:42
Something else that's ridiculous but true.

No matter how sweet the hand soap smells, never smell your fingers when coming out of a public bathroom.

By phart at 13,Nov,19 14:29 other posts of phart 
I am still trying to wrap my head around what Trump did that was so wrong?
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Asking a favor of another world leader is suddenly a crime?
I see nothing in this phone call that says, "I am holding your check until I get results".
By kebmo at 13,Nov,19 19:33 other posts of kebmo 
As I understand it, that is not a verbatim transcript.
Read the paragraph under the first two comments by the Presidents that starts with the word "CAUTION".
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The hearings this week will add a lot of information that the right will balk at and the left will hear as gospel. Nobody's minds will be changed.

By #601496 at 13,Nov,19 20:34
Phart, yes. It is a crime if you use this country's resources to buy the favor from a foreign national. It's called bribery and it's in the Constitution. Check it out.

Article Two, Section Four of the United States Constitution provides that: "The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other High crimes and Misdemeanors."
By phart at 13,Nov,19 20:36 other posts of phart 
I don't see it as bribary,it was already arranged to give them the money before hand.
There is alot to read about this,but you have to be careful. Best I can tell,Trump held the funds because of potential corruption in the ukraine government.And he did not want to send money until he was sure it was ok.
Just a observation here,Trump may have ask the prez to look into these issues to hear his reaction,to measure his honesty.Kinda like giving your k1ds keys to the car,"Now you are not going to speed are you"?
I still don't see a problem.
By kebmo at 13,Nov,19 20:45 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, you know the story. Don't play dumb.
By phart at 13,Nov,19 20:50 other posts of phart 
not playing dumb,I watched some of the so called hearing today.A man sitting there repeating what a staffer told him that he overheard from a phone conversation.The actual staffer should have been answering questions on what he or she thinks they heard. That would have to be 1 loud ass telephone to be able to remember and repeat what you heard.

This county has trillions in debt.We should not be borrowing money and then giving it out like candy to other countrys while our own is in the toilet.

By #601496 at 13,Nov,19 21:32
Well, it's not as you see it. The fact that he held up the money and told the Ukrainian president he wanted a favor b4 he released the money is bribery.
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The staffer is testifying behind closed doors on friday. You and others that support Trump don't have a defence so you are attacking witnesses, the law, the intent, even lying. You are even suggesting we should not be giving this help because we owe so much money. In one post you say Trump has brought the economy to a place it hasn't been before and then you post our economy is in the toilet. Witch is it?
By kebmo at 13,Nov,19 21:44 other posts of kebmo 
TWM, I think that's extortion.

It was said during the hearing today that attempted murder, attempted robbery and attempted extortion are equally illegal.
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By phart at 14,Nov,19 09:09 other posts of phart 
The governments economy is in the toilet because the government owes more than it takes in.THe Peoples economy is in great shape as people are working and improving their lives.Yes the 2 economys are seperate in my eye.
As for no defense,Hell,Trump is standing for the country,and it's money.I Have not read anywhere that Trump told the Ukraine he was holding the money.They had no idea the money was being held back until they were told.
By #601496 at 14,Nov,19 10:35
Phart, you can't separate "the government's" and "the people's economy. They are one and the same. We, the people pay the taxes to keep government going. Everyone assumes that if we go to the World Bank and borrow a zillion dollars it's what we use to pay for government. Loans like that are stop gap. The government needs to cover the last week of November. It knows full well the people's economy will contribute taxes to continue after November. The loan itself will be paid with interest over time, but, US, THE TAXPAYERS, will pay the installments.
The money for the Ukraine was held up for 2 months at a critical time the Ukraine was fighting Russia. They needed the money/help yesterday. The money was released TWO DAYS AFTER THE REPORT OF THE WHISTLE BLOWER CAME OUT IN SEPTEMBER. SOME COINCIDENCE.

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By phart at 31,Oct,19 14:30 other posts of phart 
NOW why is it that it is ok for the Democrats to be mad about Trump not "asking" them if it was ok to kill a terrorist leader,but it is just fine for them to talk behind his back to try to remove him from office? Double standards,the biggest reason folks like me are pissed off with libtards.

Got this by email from my congressmna.
Here is a quick update on what is happening in Congress:

•Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced a formal impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump. This inquiry was put forward without a formal vote on the House floor.

•There are secret impeachment hearings happening behind closed doors and information is being withheld from Conservative Members of Congress.

•I joined my colleagues in a letter calling for transparency, for proceedings of this investigation to be made public, and for the committee leaders overseeing the impeachment inquiry to release the guidelines and regulations under which depositions and transcriptions of testimony are being conducted.

And here's what's not happening:

•The House has not taken the necessary steps to secure our border.

•Congress has not considered bipartisan legislation to lower drug prices.

•Negotiations on the FY2020 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) – legislation Congress must pass to pay our troops – have slowed.

Rest assured, I'm continuing to fight for you and work towards bipartisan solutions that benefit our community.
By #601496 at 31,Oct,19 15:04
Phart, the president is fully aware of what congress is doing. The "secret" impeachment hearings have a bunch of Republicans that can attend. Some do, some don't, but, short of asking the president to take a seat in the room (he'd never accept) there's not much more that can be done.
Today, the full house took a vote and it passed on the rules of impeachment. It opens the proceedings to the public and gives extraordinary powers to the president's lawyers. All the things your representative said wasn't happening are happening.
As far as border security, I think treason by the President takes priority. They are also worried that Trump, in his "me first", way, will shut down the government to stop impeachment proseedings. Maybe you and your neighbors ought to replace your congressman. He seems not to know much
By phart at 31,Oct,19 18:06 other posts of phart 
in other words you want the government for all practial purposes,continue to chase butterflys the next year or so just so our President can't fullfill his campaign promises to the people?
Treason my ass.
When the results don't suit the democrats on this,then what? Find another woman to use for a puppet to bring him down on something else?
By #601496 at 31,Oct,19 18:26
So Phart, what do you suggest? He's been president for 3 yrs with a Republican congress for two of those years and a republican senate since 2018. What prevented him from doing all these WONDERFUL projects he blabbed about b4 election and since?
What do you think should be done with him if he BROKE THE LAW? You think if we keep the Kentucky Fried Chicken from him, it's enough?
Phart, He can't fullfill a good dump without getting in trouble. If he was a Democrat and he did all the stuff he has done, the Republicans would have tared and feathered him.
But, it's done, there's no turning back. And I for one want him impeached, CONVICTED AND THROWN OUT OF OFFICE, and persecuted to the full extent of the law after. Hilary Clinton? Obama? HA, no comparison

By kebmo at 31,Oct,19 15:12 other posts of kebmo 
Unfortunately it's all just political theater... on both sides.
By phart at 31,Oct,19 18:10 other posts of phart 
Yes,for the most part,but impeachment is really taking it to far.They waisted all that time on Clinton and what did it REALLY accomplish? Not a damn thing.Just alot of money spent and time wasted that could have been spent FIXING problems!
By #601496 at 04,Nov,19 06:24
Phart,what you are saying is why spend so much money capturing, extradited, and tried El Chapo. After all, he just provided millions of Americans some recreational drugs. We would have saved all that money
By phart at 04,Nov,19 09:10 other posts of phart 
El chapo may be caught,but all it did in the long run was promote the younger crowd that will be more ruthless than he was probably. I hope they find a way to use his millions to help deal with the drug issue but I doubt.The drug trade is to profitable for the government for them to really want to stop it. Way to many military planes brought back drugs from asia during the wars we fought over there for me to believe the government is really doing anything about the drug war.
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By phart at 02,Nov,19 18:02 other posts of phart 
How is it a anonymous whistleblower can get death threats? If enough folks know who it is for their life to be threatened,then they are not very anonymous are they?
By #601496 at 03,Nov,19 08:47
What? You never said, "If I find out who did this, I'll k_ill him?
By phart at 04,Nov,19 09:11 other posts of phart 
Yea I have heard that but really? I doubt that would be newsworthy if someone just said that out loud not knowing ANYTHING about who it was.

By #601496 at 03,Nov,19 08:45
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By kebmo at 03,Nov,19 01:10 other posts of kebmo 
I think one of the Democratic candidates should say "Russia or China if you can find them, we'd love to see Trump's tax returns."
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I'm thinking that if we impeach him and convict him, He might have to use his tax returns when he takes a dump in prison.

By phart at 27,Oct,19 19:30 other posts of phart 
Well,The US troops chased a ISIS guy until he blew himself skyhigh.Something I doubt he would have done had the US not been chasing him.
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I understand the liberals are upset they were not informed this was underway? Why tell them? they woulda blabbed it out and the guy woulda got away!
By kebmo at 28,Oct,19 02:13 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, usually after "it" happens the President would inform Congress then make an announcement to the press. I agree that it's a need to know situation but to say that the Democrats would purposely put American troops in danger is just not true.
Of course we're all happy that they killed the most wanted terrorist in the world but now a vacuum has been created and someone will fill it. Unfortunately.
By phart at 28,Oct,19 09:42 other posts of phart 
Yep,that was the topic of discussion this morning over breakfast,who is going to fill his shoes? We agreed the terrorist are probably mad and will take revenge.Either by lone wolf attacks or go ahead with plans laid out before hand.This is a ongoing war and this is just 1 small battle won.
I guess I should rephrase,considering the fact that we have known muslims in our government now,it is VERY difficult for me to trust them with the safety of our troops that are out to take out their muslim brothers who we know to be a threat. None of the known muslims in our government are Republican or liberatarian.Perhaps I am paranoid,but still,think about the potential.When it comes to the safety of MILLIONS of people,you can't close your eyes to such a large elephant in the room.
By kebmo at 28,Oct,19 12:47 other posts of kebmo 
My point was that the president usually tells Congress after it happens and before he tells the media. No troops are put at risk in that scenario. The fewer people that know the better, be they Muslim or Christian.

By #601496 at 29,Oct,19 08:32
How do you think they feel about us westerners?
By phart at 29,Oct,19 10:11 other posts of phart 
Who? the middle eastern folks? We already know they hate us and want to kill us.Not much more we need to know really.
By #601496 at 29,Oct,19 11:59
Why do you think that is? Did they wake up one morning and decided they were going to hate us?
By phart at 29,Oct,19 14:37 other posts of phart 
To be honest,Probably so.For at least 200 years anyhow.
First Barbary War 1801–1805
By #601496 at 29,Oct,19 15:59
Oh, yeah. Sinking their pirate fleets was way more than taking their lands from the Turks and giving them to the Italians, the French, the British. Taking their oil and getting rich while they went hungry. Let's not forget how we fought a huge war in their land. And I won't even touch the Israeli problem and the fact the USA was the first country to recognize Israel in the UN.

By phart at 28,Oct,19 20:45 other posts of phart 
Sheesh,read this,
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They called that terrorist bastard a "'austere religious scholar'"
But they later fixed it,but what the hell were they thinking? I think alot of it goes back to this quote from the page

Every day The Washington Post uses harsher words against @realDonaldTrump than they do in writing about one of the world’s most evil terrorists. Yet we’re supposed to take them at face value. Let that sink in.
By #601496 at 29,Oct,19 08:37
austere religious scholar is a true description. All it means is that he studied the Koran and maybe, other religions. You can be religious and a killer too

By SrCums at 27,Oct,19 22:35 other posts of SrCums 
Trump,, he is the REAL president..
By kebmo at 29,Oct,19 03:31 other posts of kebmo 
Nobody is disputing the validity of his presidency.

By Gntlmn at 28,Oct,19 12:51 other posts of Gntlmn 
"Lock him Up"

By kebmo at 20,Oct,19 01:23 other posts of kebmo 
I don't believe I've heard Trump make a strong comment about the protests in Hong Kong. Don't tell me he's keeping his nose out of their business because I would just piss myself laughing at the thought of Donald Trump minding his own business.
Has he said anything?
By Scorps at 20,Oct,19 03:23 other posts of Scorps 
🙄 Really!

To my knowledge, no, he hasn't. Also, you should start pissing yourself then, because he's not going around at all poking his nose in others business. On the contrary, he's attempting to let others deal with their own issues. Hence pulling our troops from these endless battles. Just curious, if he made a simple statement in passing, that we stand with the people, would that be sufficient?
By kebmo at 20,Oct,19 03:44 other posts of kebmo 
Come to think of it I haven’t heard his opinion on Brexit either.
By phart at 20,Oct,19 08:17 other posts of phart 
Part of his America first.Which is why we voted him in.
Let Hong Kong take care of it's self.
We are NOT the world's police department.
And we need to stop operating like it.
By kebmo at 20,Oct,19 15:18 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, out of Afghanistan next?
By phart at 20,Oct,19 16:54 other posts of phart 
I honestly hope so,Iraq to. Get the good guys out of those hell holes and back home to safety.Our people and those of england and other countries that have gotten pulled into the shit hole for whatever reason do not need to be at risk of injury or death 1 moment longer for that bunch of people that have not got along for eon's and never will.
We have our own oil,and by the time we are near running out,with the efforts toward alternatives will be viable,it will not be a problem. We have the tech to use drones to get rid of issues,let's use them
By kebmo at 21,Oct,19 04:30 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, the guys that left Syria went directly into Iraq, they didn't go home.
By phart at 21,Oct,19 10:41 other posts of phart 
I found that out later,damn shame that all of those folks can't come home..
By talk5s at 21,Oct,19 14:46 other posts of talk5s 
Holy fucking hell. How can it NOT be obvious to all you wondering WHY that idiot trumplehead has NOT given his opinion on Hong Kong, Afghanistan, Brexit etc. It's because his only opinions have to do with himself and how he can further his sorely needed income as well as being WORSHIPPED by his cult of completely blind followers! Also because he is SO completely OUT OF HIS DEPTH with every other world leader being so much more intelligent than him! Putin, Xi, that little fat boy in N. Korea etc...have all PLAYED him...All of you are thinking we live in an ideal World, where everyone minds his own business and there will be NO dangerous repercussions from this simpleton type of thinking. The flaw in your argument is quite OBVIOUS to anyone that can think beyond just saying 'everyone mind his own business'. WHEN the HELL was the LAST time ANYONE minded his own business?? From the block you live on or on this planet?? NEVER in the history of man'kind' has anyone EVER minded his own business!...Sadly, idealism is not the reality of this current world or at any time it the last few hundred years. Any of you know about isolationism and how it led to the 2nd World War? America TRIED to stay out of all that shit happening across the 'pond', BOTH of them actually, but it backfired with Pearl Harbor...THIS country SAVED the frickin' world in WWII when it was forced to wake the FUCK up and join in the 'festivities'! Einstein once said 'insanity is trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results.' It's ONLY been 80 years since America was an isolationist country. WHY would any of you think doing this now would yield different results?...This world is even more dangerous than the one that led us into WWII. More conventional weapons, LOTS more nukes in lots of hands besides ours. Even MORE nutcases leading the countries today than in those supposedly 'innocent' times of the early 20th Century. Yeah, I am including the dingaling leader of THIS country, the dumbass in chief, who once said in truly intelligent form...'Why can't we use nukes? We have them.' Plus SO MANY other 'brilliant' things that to list them would require DAYS!...America could afford to stay out of things in the 20's and 30's as it's mainland could not really be touched by bombs as in Germany, Japan, Italy Russia...Funny how Russia (and Italy) were on BOTH sides during that war. Now Russia is once again our enemy and Italy, Germany and Japan are now our allies.
Wake up. There is NO escape on this ever increasingly tiny planet. EVERY country has to join in to prevent another 'Great Festivity'. One that will be the end of ALL of us...just to remind you. These days America has a nuclear armed enemy both east and west of it. In less than one hour, they and us, could be no longer. It's important to keep the 'tinder boxes' (Middle East, S. China Sea, Asian peninsula, Ukraine, Baltic States, ex Soviet countries that still have Soviet nukes left over from the Cold War) from igniting such a scenario...This ex TV star and real estate failure is NOT the guy to save any of our futures...Just sayin'...
By phart at 22,Oct,19 20:00 other posts of phart 
It is also insane to keep poking in other peoples bussiness. IF Hong Kong says they are going to nuke us or whatever,then stick our bombs in their bussiness.Not our noses.
You folks keep thinking of unity and peace and what not.when you say isolationism doesn't work,maby not,but PEACE DOES NOT WORK EITHER. look at the middle east.They fight just because they ran out of goats.

REAL CHANGE is when you do something Radical like stay the hell out of hong kongs bussiness,let the citizens work it out.They live there,they are motivated to fix the issue.
We are not the world police,hell we can't even police ourselves!
By talk5s at 23,Oct,19 12:55 other posts of talk5s 
Hong Kong has no nukes, Phart. Hong Kong would like to be a democracy, hence the protests. China, which got Hong Kong back from the British in 1997 (don't quote me) is NOT living up to their end of that bargain, which is to leave HK alone for 50 years. What a crazy treaty, right?...Also crazy to think China would live up to it's end of that treaty as they just do what they want under Xi...Hong Kong is America's and the world's friend. China is the enemy with a measly 260 or so nukes. Still enough to end the world as we know it. For comparison, the US and Russia have around 7500 each. MUCH lower than in the Cold War, but still enough to kill this planet many times over.
Just so you know, Hong Kong is probably the most powerful financial Nation city currently. Everybody trades there, including the Chinese, which receive BILLIONS thru them. Which just may be HK's saving grace as money means everything to every nation on earth. If this were NOT true, China would have stormed in long ago and stomped this revolt out. If they do that anyway, the US would HAVE to do something or Taiwan would be next...Like I said, S. China Sea is a tinderbox...However, I don't think trump would do anything to stop it. Simply because he has NO knowledge of world history or any geo political knowledge. A person CANNOT be president without knowing such important things. Plus, he trusts his gut and NOT anyone else with the experience to actually know what's important to keep this country as well as the world 'safe'. BTW, there really is NO safety anymore as this world has become more dangerous than it was during the Cold War. ...I do agree with you about poking into everyone else's business and wish it were as easy as that. This planet needs a great awakening of some type so that we can STOP playing this insanely DANGEROUS game where nukes are the likely end result.

By #601496 at 22,Oct,19 08:16
Looks like Mr Trudeau won another term in office. Congratulations to Canadians for a very civilized election.
By kebmo at 22,Oct,19 13:44 other posts of kebmo 
In the Canadian Parliament there are 388 seats. If one party took 170 or more, which Trudeau and the Liberals did in 2015, they have a majority government and can pass bills without opposition. This time the Liberals took 157 seats giving them a minority government, that is two of the other parties can vote together in parliament to override a Liberal bill.

The Liberal Party did not however win more votes than the second place Conservative Party, the popular vote, 5.9M to 6.1M. The seats that the Conservatives won were won with a great majority of voters voting for them, especially in Alberta and Saskatchewan where they took every seat except one.
This last happened in 1979 and is legal and uncontested

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By #601496 at 22,Oct,19 13:47
Will this cause a problem or a call for early elections?
By kebmo at 22,Oct,19 14:18 other posts of kebmo 
TWM, it can. In 1979, Joe Clark was only Prime Minister for 9 months before the opposition got together and toppled his government. It can also work with two parties getting together and forming a majority and passing bills that they have drafted together and agree upon.
In essence, we're giving Trudeau a second chance...with conditions.
By #601496 at 22,Oct,19 17:14
I like him. Like everyone, he has some lapses of better judgement. I wish him good.

By phart at 21,Oct,19 14:22 other posts of phart 
Kembo,do you see any real chance that Trump could use the resources of the US or other countries for that matter to make a real difference in the middle east? By military or by sending over experts to rebuild their infastructure,or diplomets to find peace?

I don't see any real chance myself.Those people have been at war for generations and know nothing else.
By kebmo at 21,Oct,19 15:07 other posts of kebmo 
I seriously doubt that peace will ever reign in the Middle East. In a word: Religion.
Why should any foreign entity spend their resources to rebuild something that is destined for destruction... again?
Peacekeeping has a valid purpose but the UN is best qualified to handle that with the help of the US of course. Canadian forces have spent a lot of time peacekeeping with the UN. One group, one uniform, one purpose. Peace, not war.
By #601496 at 21,Oct,19 18:48
Over 5000 yrs of conflict. Not a chance. At best a reduced area of combat.

By penis-misterluke3 at 18,Oct,19 16:38 other posts of penis-misterluke3 
I don't think that Trump makes America great. It's only politics for the rich whereas normal people barely can afford daily life. He doesn't fix America's real problems. And it was a big mistake to retreat from the INF treaty. For me Barack Obama was a president who made America great again.
By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 16:50
I like the way you think. I'm satisfied with the first sentence.

By Scorps at 20,Oct,19 03:42 other posts of Scorps 
You're partially right! The people of America are what make America great. He's just aiding in guiding us in the right direction by implementing better policies and putting HIS country and it's citizens first! Perhaps you believe that things were better under Obummer, because SO many were allowed to ride the welfare system for many years. I'm an not "rich" by any standard, but me and mine are far better off than we were 8 years ago, and that's what matters and will keep him in office.

I gotta ask... According to you, penis-misterluke3 just what are America's "real problems"? 🤔 I honestly can't wait to hear this...
By phart at 20,Oct,19 08:21 other posts of phart 
1 man can only influence,he can not change the world.
I think he has a couple flaws,like put down the Twitter box why don't ye,and not getting our troops out of Afganistand and Iraq. Either bomb the shit out of them and put our flags up or get the hell out.The fighting will continue as long as we are there "medeling" in their country.And it will continue after we are gone,but our soilders will be home safe with their familys instead of getting their legs and arms blown off for a bunch of unapprecitive people that don't use toilet paper.
By Scorps at 20,Oct,19 08:31 other posts of Scorps 
I agree with MOST of what you're saying except the Twitter part. I'm ONLY dissenting on that because of the media bias. If he were more fairly covered, I would agree with you on that point too.
By phart at 20,Oct,19 08:46 other posts of phart 
Well yea,it is sadly the only way we get the truth about him but it seems the media grabs every little word and makes mountains out of mole hills.

By #601496 at 20,Oct,19 14:23
I know, I know!!!!!! Americans like you Scorps
By Scorps at 20,Oct,19 16:07 other posts of Scorps 
Nope! Even ungrateful ones like you and the bunch that live with you. All of whom have NO understanding of what America CLEARLY wants. When the majority speaks out, you're unable to process and accept the fact that your team LOST! Pure and Simple! Get over it and ride the train. We endured Obummer, now it's time for payback. Not so fuckin funny when the shoe is on the other foot, huh? Only exception I make to my statement is this one is actually doing something not strutting out every day merely pointing his finger and grinning, "Look at me I'm SO cool"!
By #601496 at 20,Oct,19 16:22
But, if the Obammer era is over, why do you Trumpians always refering to him and Hilary? And let me remind you of 2 things. Hilary won the popular vote by 2 mil. The other is that his popularity numbers are the lowest of any president in the general population.

By #601496 at 19,Oct,19 08:34
Hilary is blameless

The state department has completed its years-long internal investigation into Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information”.
By phart at 19,Oct,19 09:19 other posts of phart 
so they say,but in order to follow the example of the democrats we must continue to persue it just as the Muller report is still being persued.NEVER let it end! Isn't that the example we are to follow from the democrats?
By #601496 at 19,Oct,19 12:56
Muller was not the end. He said so. He advices Congress to continue the investigation. Everyone assumes it was over when he presented his findings.
However, Hilary C is not in government any more. While Trump is still president. Do you see the difference?
By phart at 19,Oct,19 22:48 other posts of phart 
I mostly see the double standard.

By #601496 at 15,Oct,19 18:11
October 7, 2016 – In the 2005 Access Hollywood tape, Donald Trump bragged to Billy Bush about grabbing women by their genitals without consent. In the video published by the Washington Post, Trump said, “I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it, you can do anything… grab them by the pussy.” Trump said his statements were “locker room banter” and apologized “if anyone was offended.” He later issued a further response to the tape’s release, saying, “I’ve never said I’m a perfect person.”
By phart at 15,Oct,19 19:51 other posts of phart 
He is a male with plenty of power and money,and the women he groped,probably got all wet and horny thinking a Billionaire might come back for some more.All along they were hoping to get their turn on the casting couch. That couch that seems to be forgotten lately that helped so many women become rich and famous that could not have done it any other way.

Also,since grabbing a woman is wrong for us to be doing in all honesty,would it have made any difference had he done this to young males? I bet he would not have made it to the presidency because the conservatives would not have liked that.
By dgraff at 15,Oct,19 20:02 other posts of dgraff 
Hey look at Monica lewinsky she now is rich and owns her own pussy flavored cigar factory and I hear there hand dipped
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WOW! DIDN"T KNOW about this
By dgraff at 15,Oct,19 20:44 other posts of dgraff 
Hahaha you thought I was kidding I was at a biker rally and they were selling her cigars
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By dgraff at 16,Oct,19 05:18 other posts of dgraff 
Just think she would never be were she is today if she didn’t suck bill Clinton off in the Oval Office
By Scorps at 16,Oct,19 05:28 other posts of Scorps 
EWE! 😖 Better her than me. Would you have blown Bill? 🤔

By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 08:07
Phart, What women want is not the point. What if, in the supermarket, a Stanger comes up to you and sticks his hand down your pants without asking? You may like it or wanted, but, wouldn't you want to be asked?
And, since when has the casting couch been right? Are you saying that putting out for a lecherous producer to get a part is the way to go?
By phart at 16,Oct,19 10:13 other posts of phart 
Half of the female "singers" past and present can't carry a tune in a bucket,but they got famous anyhow.How? probably the couch.
By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 10:34
First, singers start in small bars and work their way up. Second, you may not like their singing but someone must. Your opinion is not valid.
By phart at 16,Oct,19 11:08 other posts of phart 
and yours is?
By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 12:26
By phart at 16,Oct,19 14:51 other posts of phart 
By who or whats standards or rules?
By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 15:09
Don't ask dumb questions. By the same standards as you. You think I get up in the morning and say to myself, go after Phart?
It's my personal standard. I do get to make judgement calls on what's presented to me. Don't take it personal but I'm sick of you guys having your head buried in the ground. You don't believe anyone or anything. You see conspiracy everywhere and believe off brand rag organizations for your news. Well, fuck it. You won't change anything.
By phart at 16,Oct,19 20:43 other posts of phart 
UNtil you learn to see both sides of a arguement and study BOTH sides of a story,you will not change anything either.
EVERY issue,every story ,every event,has 2 sides,just like a sheet of paper.
By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 09:52
Yes, every story and event has two sides. Sometimes, the sides agree in the results but differ on how it was achieved. Sometimes, it predicts opposing results from the actions of the players. It would be hard to argue against a point of view unless one has the facts to back it up. In politics, many actions can be interpreted differently. The key is that once a fact is proven to be true, then acceptance of that fact should be universal. I notice that Trump makes mistakes that his base is willing to ignore. They want to keep him in the presidency at all costs. The Republican base would not have allowed that to be under other presidents, so, how does someone like me able to express my frustration with this president without getting personally attacked?

By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 07:09 other posts of WillBfun 
The exzact quote was " when your famous they will let you grab them by the pussy"
Let you does constitute consent.
By phart at 19,Oct,19 09:24 other posts of phart 
Don't confuse them with the facts and quotes.It upsets the apple cart.

By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 16:53
February 27, 2017 – In his first budget proposal, Donald Trump boosted defense and security spending by $54 billion. He proposed slashing the budget for non-defense spending in areas like education, science, poverty programs, and environmental protection by almost the same amount.

Well, we know he's not into education or science.
By kebmo at 19,Oct,19 01:05 other posts of kebmo 
Education is important but defense is importanter.
By #601496 at 19,Oct,19 07:08
By phart at 19,Oct,19 09:22 other posts of phart 
Silly way of putting it BUT,what is the use of being a "smart" slave to some foreign government?
OR dead because you wanted to study basket weaving and the sex habits of the South American swamp rat while leaving ourselves vulnerable to the Nigerian Air force dropping bombs on us?
Protect yourself first,a dead person needs no education.

By kebmo at 19,Oct,19 04:15 other posts of kebmo 
“It’s hard to hate people when you actually know them.”

-Susan Rice

By #601496 at 15,Oct,19 18:07
February 10, 2011 – In 2011, Donald Trump stoked false claims that Barack Obama had lied about his education. During a speech to the Conservative Political Action Conference, Trump said, “Our current president came out of nowhere. Came out of nowhere. In fact, I’ll go a step further: The people that went to school with him, they never saw him, they don’t know who he is. It’s crazy.” This is false. Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner.
By phart at 15,Oct,19 19:49 other posts of phart 
Numerous accounts from Obama’s college classmates refute Trump’s claim, including Obama’s Columbia roommate, Phil Doerner. "

All bought and paid for by George Soros maby? Strange it took them awhile to come out of the closet about him. Although it would be hard to prove and could be a unlikely event,that is something he would fund just to help his "cause" along.
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"his political spending - a fraction of the money he gives away every year - has made him one of the Democratic Party's most reliable and generous donors."
By Scorps at 15,Oct,19 23:53 other posts of Scorps 

She heard it on CNN or MSNBC it HAS to be true! Afterall... They ARE the standard for unbiased, hard core truth in reporting. How dare you question her knowledge of such a thing as Obama's college buddies. GEEZE! 🙄
By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 08:04
And you heard yours from good old Rush Limbaught and it has to be true
By phart at 16,Oct,19 10:14 other posts of phart 
check out the link I posted last night.The producer for CNN ADMITS the Trump thing is mostly bullshit!
Here it is again so you don't have to hunt for it.
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By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 10:45
Phart, James O'Keef.
His latest attempt -- a nearly nine-minute video called “American Pravda: CNN Producer Says Russia Narrative 'bullsh*t'" -- is yet another sign that O’Keefe has no actual interest in reporting the truth, but instead produces video art projects for the sole purpose of getting attention from one of his biggest fans, President Donald Trump.

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And you believe this?
By phart at 16,Oct,19 11:07 other posts of phart 
no less of a joke than what cnn and others push over on us.
By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 09:55
Phart, that was not a joke. That's what makes it really bad and dangerous. PLEASE, the talking heads want to be successful, but, even if they overwork it, they talk truth.

By kebmo at 29,Sep,19 13:38 other posts of kebmo 
Just the perception that Biden did something wrong in Ukraine is enough to cause his campaign harm. It's called a conspiracy theory and it is an effective tool to attempt to derail your opponent's campaign.
By phart at 29,Sep,19 14:11 other posts of phart 
For the Repulicains to accept the possiable wrongs of Trump,the Democrats MUST also accept the possiablity of their own doing wrong.
To do anything else is to be operating on a double standard.
Who in their right mind would believe a democrat had clean hands anyway?No politician is a saint.
By kebmo at 29,Sep,19 14:26 other posts of kebmo 
You're talking about two different issues.
If the Biden complaint were validated that would be fine to investigate it but nobody has brought any proof of that to the table yet.
The Whistleblower complaint is valid that must, under US law, be investigated.
By Scorps at 29,Sep,19 16:00 other posts of Scorps 
Oh yeah... No proof!? I think Bidens recount in his own words of what happened is MORE than enough proof and takes it beyond "perception" and more along the lines of FACT! Make sure to turn it up cause the audio is kinda LOW...

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How much more validation would you like? A signed confession perhaps?

Furthermore... Biden himself is doing the best job he can at "derailing" his presidential campaign. He's feeble and weak. I'm certain you haven't seen or heard 5he numerous gaffes from him as almost all sources hide them. Just remember... embrace truth over facts any and everyday!

OH! One last thing about that "whistleblower" you suppose he got his information like Kevin Cronin of REO Speedwagon who... "Heard it from a friend who, heard it from a friend who, heard it from another"? Yeah, that REAL credible! 😉😉

In the words of Aretha Franklin... "Who's ZOOMIN' Who?"
By kebmo at 29,Sep,19 23:58 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, why would you question the credibility of the whistleblower?
By Scorps at 30,Sep,19 01:06 other posts of Scorps 
Why? Because in the whistleblowers own words... "He did NOT have firsthand knowledge of the conversation", meaning, he got it from someone else. Hence the Kevin Cronin reference. 😉 I hope with all of my hoping power the person comes into the light and is no longer employed as a C.I.A. operative. 🤞🙏 The President released the transcript of the conversation and as usual there is NO law broken. This type of shit HAS to STOP! World Leaders should he able to talk freely without fear of their conversations be blasted across front page news rags. I hope the son a bitch gets fired, he even admitted to political bias. Lady justice is blindfolded for a reason, so that she is unbiased. As should ALL legal matters.
By kebmo at 30,Sep,19 01:16 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, I was not aware that the whistleblower had made any public comments.

By #596193 at 05,Oct,19 18:01
A he’s deep state intelligence and Chuck U Schumer said if you mess with intelligence they have more ways than one to go after you , 2 he did follow proper channels instead went to Schiff’s office . Three he’s a democrat with well known ties to a high profile dumbocrat , four REO Speedwagon , fivetheyve been trying to get Trump from even before day one and don’t want the truth to come out . You want more ? GTFOH
By Scorps at 05,Oct,19 22:57 other posts of Scorps 
Well said Bro! Equally as shocked to see where you're located. 😉
By #596193 at 14,Oct,19 15:18
There was a lot more ref going for Trump in NY but NYC calls the shots . Would love to divide the state .
By Scorps at 14,Oct,19 15:25 other posts of Scorps 
Sounds like the state of Chicago... As I'm right next to Illinois lotta good people in that state. Only problem is, Chicago dictates everything for the rest of the state. Most people not near Chicago hate it.
By phart at 15,Oct,19 09:11 other posts of phart 
A fellow down the road met a gal from Chicago and since her house was bigger up there and her family was there and he had none, they decided he would move up there.3 truck loads of stuff hauled up there,and all that effort,and although he loves the gal,he is homesick.She is wanting out now as well.
But they can't sell the house,no one seems to want to live there! Sad.Once a nice city.Al Capone was much better than what comes from there nowadays. At least he did open soup kitchens for the poor and gave money for schools.

By #601496 at 14,Oct,19 16:12
Greg. Wow, you are better informed than you the a White House. Let the Pres. fire Guilliani and hire you

By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 07:13 other posts of WillBfun 
Trump released the whole transcript of the call. What exactly could the whistleblower know? Just more Dem faux outrage and sscandle.
By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 07:43
I agree. So why does Trump want to know who he is?
By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 08:00 other posts of WillBfun 
He is exposing the Democrats lack of transparency. There is nothing in the phone call. The bigger question why won't Pelosi hold a vote in the House on impeachment? My guess they have nothing and they know it. They cant beat Trump at the polls so they use smear tactics. They wi never change.
By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 09:06
Trump said there is. So, is there or isn't there? By law, whistle blowers identities have to remain hidden. Isn't Trump using smear tactics too? And why give the opposition any ammunition until you have ALL the facts? Prosecutors do it all the time. But, why worry? You know that whatever they bring you and your Trumpian buddies will say it's all a lie, fake news, and conspiracy
By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 09:26 other posts of WillBfun 
Its a smear tactic to want to face your accuser? Why was the first whistleblower abandoned after is was discovered he worked on Buden campaign?
By phart at 17,Oct,19 09:50 other posts of phart 
Why would the "whistle blower" or as I consider him,a Chicken shit sumbitch, want to hide anyway? If he is telling the truth,he should be willing to stand up and face the accused.
I feel like Trump is right in wanting to face the accuser,it is only fair.If you are charged with murder or **** or whatever,you are able to see the accuser right there in the court room.But in this court of public opionion,the accuser can hide behind some law created just for the democrats to be able to use it to smear their opponets.

By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 10:11
No, it's a smear tactic asking foreign governments to investigate your political rivals. No matter if guilty or innocent, the Bidens are smeared. And it's also against the law

By phart at 29,Sep,19 16:02 other posts of phart 
But might you agree it is strange how the complaint came after the Stormy daniels thing,the supreme court judge fisasco failed to discredit Trump,the Mueller investigation failed to produce anything he could prove,and so on.Why isn't all the dirt coming out at once?

All this investigating is being done to stone wall Trump and delaying or preventing him or anyone else for that matter doing any thing positive for the is all meant to tye up resources,and cost millions.To what real gain? Nothing would be gained by proving dirt on Biden either.And frankly,I was hoping he would be the democrat runner for pres.1,we allready know some about him,2,the others are FAR worse than he is. So he grabs women. Would it be any different if he grabbed men? Burnie Sanders ought to be sent out of the country on a 1 way trip to the fucking MOON. Oh, I forgot,meantally he is already there!
By Scorps at 29,Sep,19 18:08 other posts of Scorps 
Phart They have ZERO proof of ANY wrong doing. I challenge ANY ONE of these Libs to post positive proof of a REAL crime that Mr. Trump has committed. Not implied crimes are wanana be crimes, REAL tangible crime. JUST ONE! I implore ANYONE to post it here. Put up OR shut the fuck up!! It's fucking annoying the rampant stupidity. No one cares if YOU disagree with ANY of his policies. But these pukes have gone way past merely disagreeing. It's moved to an unhealthy embarrassing obsession or flat out harrassment.
By sherryann at 29,Sep,19 18:33 other posts of sherryann 
"They have zero proof" precisely! I am tired of them hating/picking on my President Trump!
By phart at 29,Sep,19 23:32 other posts of phart 
I am tired of the picking on Trump to.But it wont stop any time soon.It won't stop after his second term ends in 2024.
I am just bringing up the fact that the "dirt" they throw is a little bit at the time.Instead of all of it at once and get it over with.
It is being done that way to cause trouble.
By sherryann at 01,Oct,19 18:59 other posts of sherryann 
I know.
I dread what happens
after 2024!
By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 08:41 other posts of WillBfun 
No way Ginsberg hangs on 4 more years, one more Constitutionalist on the SCOTUS and the Country is safe from the Dem onslaught on American freedoms.

By mr_blue at 29,Sep,19 19:21 other posts of mr_blue 
It's in the Mueller report,but Mueller is a career civil servant and has abided by DOJ guidelines and that dictates that a sitting president cannot be indicated for what's in the report, it's Congress that has to impeach....

I suppose trump has that proof of Obama not being born the USA too not implied proof but actual proof...
And the trump derangement syndrome is just the same as Obama derangement syndrome...

And why should I shut the fuck up?you live in the land of free speech,you whole country is built on the fundamental right to tell some to fuck off...

I will fuck off with my rampant stupidity now...
By Scorps at 29,Sep,19 21:18 other posts of Scorps 
Bluey, it was just a statement not directed at any particular person. Therefore, I hope you don't take it personal. I still think you're a sexy beast. But! I also believe whole heartedly that there is SO much misinformation out there, that you could possibly be a victim of it. You may not believe it, but I look at these things objectively too. I don't want a bigoted, corrupt president anymore than the next guy. He's a smartass fer sure! I'll give anyone that. I just so happen to appreciate certain smart asses. Kinda like some of the quirky comments you yourself have made around here. The Mueller report is available online for your reading pleasure. There is NO THERE, there (speaking solely on the collusion portion) Now, on the obstruction portion, there is some finite potential issues that I may concur with. BUT! How do you hold someone responsible for obstruction when there is NO crime in the first place? PERIOD! Lastly... There's video out there of the doctor that delivered Obama, there's video of Obama's family members stating that he was born in Kenya. What did you believe everyone just started making the shit up? So, if infact he was born in the U.S. as claimed, then why do you suppose so many of his black side claimed the contrary? Does that make sense to you? It's HIS family for Christsake that started it.
By kebmo at 29,Sep,19 23:51 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, if Obama was born in Kenya why was he allowed to serve two terms as the US president? In order to be the US president you must be born in the US.
By Scorps at 30,Sep,19 00:30 other posts of Scorps 
One of THE best questions ever asked!

I have NO answer. The man came outta nowhere virtually unheard of until he declared his run for the presidency. To make it worse... I live next door to the State in which he came from, yet, never heard of him. One of the very strange things that happened during that time, was... After SO much outcry for proof of citizenship, he and the family conveniently took a trip to Hawaii. Immediately after that trip, he conveniently provided proof of his birth at a Hawaiian hospital. Now I ask you... Why would he have to go to Hawaii to get a copy of his birth certificate when you can receive a copy at ANY vital records in the United States? Yes, even back then. How do I know? Because one of my children were born in a different state and around that time I had to request one for her. Are people incapable of, or is the system incapable of being exploited for someone's personal gain? I say NOT! We may NEVER know the truth, but if it is true why would officials in Kenya, and his family members make contrary statements? Even his brother called bullshit. Why? Maybe, just maybe, some day, way way in the future. The truth will come out and it will be one of the biggest scandals ever to have been pulled off. Nevertheless, I'm personally over it and only brought it up because Mr_Blue mentioned it.
By kebmo at 30,Sep,19 01:04 other posts of kebmo 
I believe that he was born in Hawaii and that Trump was the one who made the "birther" scandal national . It's a known fact that Trump has always hated, yes personally hated Obama.
It is also a known fact that Barack Obama was born in the state of Hawaii. Some people choose not to believe that but trying to change their minds would be an exercise in futility.
Obama was President for eight years and now it's over yet Trump and his supporters continue to constantly talk about him and what he did while he was President. I wonder why that is, it's over.
By Scorps at 03,Oct,19 04:23 other posts of Scorps 
Kebmo I respect your decision to believe whatever you like.

I'm personally on the fence on the matter as there really is NO empirical proof as to what you are saying. It's just what you and others want to believe as you dismiss what his own family has publicly stated. Along with the doctor in Kenya who supposedly delivered him. We'll just continue to pretend that's made up and irrelevant. Donald Trump only became the loudest voice about the birth issue because he got the press to do so. Certainly the OBVIOUS crooked media and there OBVIOUS agenda was NOT going to shine the spotlight on the ones who actually perpetuated the "birther" issue in the first place, nor would the Dems call their frontrunner out either. You truly believe, that either the media or the dems who walk in lock step with one another, would out their man? If SO I'm sorry to tell you, you truly are delusional and gullible. That being said... Donald only jumped on the bandwagon and became the loudest voice because they wanted to make him look foolish. SO foolish that he WON the next election. So, your "fact" has holes in it. Empirical proof! Just as a new baby is born and a birth certificate is made you want me to believe that people are incapable of creating a new one for him, or the computer is incapable of being backdated to produce a certificate that appears to be genuine? I have my original, as do many other people. It sure as hell don't look brand new. The Birth Certificate provided as "proof" was NOT weathered OR old. Why? That's right, give him the pass, I know it's coming. Perhaps his original was lost and he had to get a new one. Right, sure, whatever. It's done and over with and I'm personally done with the issue. But unless you were there, or have video, your "fact" is in fact not a fact.

Why does Obama keep being brought up?

SIMPLE! The ILLEGAL investigation into a fellow American, more significantly, a political opponent started under his administration. At the time, he was the top cop of the United States, and HAD to have known the things that were being done against a political rival OR fellow American. He allowed it to happen. Period! Next, the scandal involving HIS vice President, Joe Biden and Bidens son took place when? Right! Under Obama's administration. Lastly, just off the top of my head. People wanna blame Donald Trump for the holding facilities for illegal immigrants and the treatment, and the separation of the families etc. NEWS FLASH! It ALL was done under Obama's administration. NOT DONALD TRUMP'S! He's just utilizing what was created before him.

None of this will matter to you, as you're not even a citizen of this country. I believe you are merely blinded by hatred OR dislike for the guy period. That's fine, your entitled to like or dislike whomever you want. I only took my time to respond to what you said as a legitimate attempt to answer your question and to respond to your "fact".

When YOU point out the good he has done for our country, then and only then, I may believe that you are slightly unbiased. No worries though, I'll soon be outlining all of his achievements in this very thread. Stay tuned! It's quite the list...
By phart at 03,Oct,19 13:06 other posts of phart 
People that Hate Trump will never change their minds.It is like talking to a brick wall.
No one would be able to farce me to love Obama either.So I can understand it to some degree.But I know Trump was the better of the 2 choices I had in 2016 and he will be the better choice in 2020. There was only 1 perfect man and they nailed him to a cross between 2 theives so to think you will get a perfect,honest politician is a real day dream. I can tolerate Trumps wrongs much more than I can Killarys or obamas. I have yet to hear of any of Trumps actions or lack thereof, before or during his presidency that resulted in someone's death.Such as Bengazzi.

By #601496 at 14,Oct,19 16:16
Yeah. Blah blah blah. Everyone is against him It’s the other guy’s fault. The Republican house and senate did not post impeach Obama

By WillBfun at 17,Oct,19 08:45 other posts of WillBfun 
Actually Hillary Clinton was the first to bring it up when she ran against Obama for the Democrat nomination.
By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 07:25
WillBFun, prove it.

By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 17:29 other posts of SrCums 
Because it is deep state corruption, just like looking like Osama Bin Laden... Barrack Obama... hmmm,,, the 2nd half with the real black beard is suspicious. Just like Ted cruz was born in canada,, with the radical islamic muslims in congress,,, you tell me...

By mr_blue at 01,Oct,19 06:41 other posts of mr_blue 
Show me the actual proof of Obama not being born in the USA he wouldn't have been allowed to run as a presidential candidate if it was born outside of the USA.
All the intelligence services would have found that out.
Trump obstructed justice... it's down to Congress to do anything about it.... it's in the report...

If there was no collusion,trump sure did a lot of obstruction to stop that non trump fucked himself...

I don't take it personally, I'm not American,so I don't have to live where trump's decisions really matter...
All your media is wonder people get so stuck in their echo chambers....

By phart at 01,Oct,19 19:29 other posts of phart 
Mr Blue,if you were to run for public office,how long would it take you to provide proof of citienship?
Most of us have copies of our birth records and would be happy to show them to all concerned instead of hiding it and delaying it and making a issue of being ask about it in the first place.The coverups and delays and what not,are what adds gas to the conspiricy theory fires.
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,19 19:42 other posts of mr_blue 
Conspiracy is unproven, Obama had his birth certificate, that's all he needed to show he was born in USA.Maybe Obama just wanted to hold on to it to annoy everyone,much like how trump is holding onto his tax returns!!

Both sides play the spin game..
Anything you can level at the Obama administration,you can level at trump......cuz that's politics....
By phart at 01,Oct,19 19:56 other posts of phart 
Was Obama ever ask for his tax returns? I honestly don't know if he was or not.Don't know that many presidents are ask about them. That may be 1 of the reasons Trump is holding his returns,just to show the irony of the situation. If big O can hold his paper work,so can I?
By mr_blue at 01,Oct,19 20:02 other posts of mr_blue 
Presidents normally put their assets into a blind trust while they sit as potus,they release their tax returns to show where their income comes from....trump does not want to do it....
By kebmo at 01,Oct,19 20:21 other posts of kebmo 
mr_blue, isn't that because Trump is under audit?
-End Sarcasm

For the record Trump is not obligated to release his tax returns. I'm pretty sure that he said he would at some time though.

By kebmo at 01,Oct,19 20:18 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, yes he did.
Frequently Asked Questions
1. Are presidents required to release their tax returns?
Presidents aren’t required by law to release their tax returns. Nevertheless, between 1974 and 2012, every president but Gerald Ford has made a voluntary release of the tax returns they filed while in office. Ford released no complete returns, but released 10 years of summary data including gross income, taxable income, major deductions, and taxes paid.

only registered users can see external links

By #601496 at 18,Oct,19 07:26
Blue, in a world were silence is impossible, who does one choose to hear?

By #596193 at 14,Oct,19 15:26
Wrong ! Mueller could have reached a conclusion on collusion , but he didn’t . only registered users can see external links
By phart at 14,Oct,19 15:43 other posts of phart 
This link has issues,made my computer throw up warnings.
By #596193 at 14,Oct,19 21:11
The link to frontline or real clear politics ?
By phart at 14,Oct,19 21:26 other posts of phart 
real clear I think.
Just kept throwing a box up about certificates and so forth ,had a hell of a time backing out of the page.
By #596193 at 15,Oct,19 06:12
I pop right in and out no problem

By talk5s at 30,Sep,19 15:06 other posts of talk5s 
Here's one, Scorpio. Just ONE of the MANY...Trump University. Cheated MANY people out of thousands of dollars before it folded..."A judge has finalized a $25 million settlement for students who claim they were defrauded by Trump University"..."New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman, whose office filed one of the three lawsuits, said of the final settlement: "This settlement marked a stunning reversal for President Trump, who for years refused to compensate the victims of his sham university."
There are so MANY others, it's just hard to keep track. But, you just asked for one.
By Scorps at 30,Sep,19 18:19 other posts of Scorps 
Glad to hear justice was served! But alas, he was NOT President then.
By talk5s at 01,Oct,19 14:20 other posts of talk5s 
Does that mean his BASIC dishonesty and PROVEN cheating of fellow AMERICANS, 10,000(!) of them, somehow doesn't matter just a few years later? Because NOW he is 'THE' president just like he was 'THE' Donald? REALLY?...Not being president then is your actual argument that he is somehow GOOD for 'our' country??
You know, I refuse to use any of those emoticons when discussing this country. ALL of us are in danger with a CROOK in power. He is the political equivalent of 'THE' "Teflon Don" because he somehow escapes punishment for his crimes.
If you wish, I could name other of his crimes, but I just did the bare minimum of the one you requested. Believe me. His crimes run the spectrum well beyond just the ones that are in the 'books'...Ethical, Moral, religious...I am not religious so I really don't care how he has hoodwinked all the evangelicals, themselves crooks of the highest order.
By phart at 01,Oct,19 14:52 other posts of phart 
You are saying we have a crook for Prez right now.
Ok with that said,go back in history and tell me when we had a HONEST president?
Kennedy ran around on his wife, Bill got his dick sucked in the white house, and so on,I seriously doubt if the entire truth was known,we have NEVER had a truely honest President.
You have to pick the lesser of the evils avaliable is all you can do nowadays.
Kinda like having a mean dog that don't bite you.Just because he does not bite the hand that feeds him does not make him a nice doggy.
By talk5s at 01,Oct,19 15:01 other posts of talk5s 
I cannot do that, Phart. ALL of them are crooks to one degree or other. It's just that this current crook is the most dangerous of all I have known in my life. I am old, have seen a LOT...I don't want America to die. It's my country. One that has in the past PROTECTED countries and people that needed protecting. It IS a country of immigrants, (my own grandparents left Germany when Hitler was coming to power) and made better for that...Politics is just BS. Anything to get in office and then NOT to do the bidding of their constituents.
You are right, better of 2 evils is ALWAYS what it comes down to. And that is just NOT the way America was supposed to be.
On further thought, maybe Lincoln? Even tho I have no way of knowing for sure, media being what it is...Very sad if I am right about Lincoln...
By phart at 01,Oct,19 18:46 other posts of phart 
even back then it took money and influence to get anywhere.
So it is hard to say who was honest.

By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 09:16
Phart- you are making adultery equal to treason. Kennedy had Marilyn Monroe. Clinton had Monica. Eisenhower had his Army driver. They did not ask another country to get involved in our elections. No one is 100% true blue, but, a person is elected to do a job. As long as he does it honestly and with the right reasons, he is doing it well even if we hate him for his governance. The current office holder of the presidency is a dishonest traitor

By #601496 at 15,Oct,19 10:01
Phart, NO, DON'T GO BACK IN HISTORY, let's talk NOW. He's president now. Stop saying, "Well, so and so did it".

By #596193 at 05,Oct,19 18:02
Farts name speaks for itself 😂
By phart at 05,Oct,19 20:38 other posts of phart 
Not really,I had a bad case of gas from eating beans and such a few hours before i joined the site and the hint was in the air about what to use for a nick name.
It says nothing about me at all really.I am more than a fart in a whirl wind.

By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 16:06
In this country and in western law absolute proof is not required to convict some one of a crime. Circumstantial evidence is all that is needed. To impeach all that is needed is the perception of high crimes and/or misdemeanor. Trumpo bragged on national TV news that he did ask the president of Ukrain and the Chinese government to get involved with our elections. Then, there's the two whistleblowers. How much more do you want?

By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 07:48
Sometimes I wonder how this country became so great with braniacs like you three. Even my Republican friends cringe at Trump's doings and how his "base" props him up

By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 07:56
only registered users can see external links

Play the video. Trump is asking China to investigate the Bidens.

By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 08:06 other posts of SrCums 
They just make it up, just like the russia bullshit. Knowing he is innocent but still wants to take him down is a massive coup attempt.. Yes, we have more evidence on this and they have zero...
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 09:07
SrCums- Yes, they make it up. They get their material direct from the traitor's mouth.
By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 10:34 other posts of SrCums 
You should at least try to get an education before I comment on your stupid crap.
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 10:35
What do you suggest? Read the Torah?
By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 12:13 other posts of SrCums 
First how about cleanin ya filthy ass first. You smell like shit and piss from last night.
By kebmo at 07,Oct,19 13:01 other posts of kebmo 
SrCums….really? Please not here.
By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 13:04 other posts of SrCums 
She called me all kinds of filthy names including antisemetic remarks just because I had a difference of opinion. This was done in public forum and not privately. No remorse or nothing and keeps doing it !
I understand your point of integrity.
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 13:25
SrCums do you understand that because I state an opinion on Trump you go all weird and start to attack me in a personal, insulting way?
This quote from you
You should at least try to get an education before I comment on your stupid crap.
Is insulting and personal. Did you expect me to say something like "Yes, Daddy"?
My response, because we are in Kebmo's forum, was very restrained.
What did you do? You piled it on. You want to bring it over to my forum? I'd be very happy to tell you what I really think of you. BTW, 80% of American Protestant boys are circumcised. Circumcision DOES NOT MAKE A JEW. Go cry on Benjamin Netanyahu's shoulder.
By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 13:51 other posts of SrCums 
Timestamps at 07,Oct,19 12:13 other posts Edit

First how about cleanin ya filthy ass first. You smell like shit and piss from last night.

TWOWARMTTS2 [Ignore] at 02,Aug,19 19:48 other posts

But, I don't need a filthy little Jew with a chip on his shoulder to give me advice on what I should do.

Here's the deal... you are a nazi racist bitch.. I will ban you but if you even try to say anything more just because I'm a jew then the pattern becomes much more simpler.. Don't insult my intelligence.. And that goes for your side-kick bella too...

By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 09:06
Phart-There's quite a difference between dirty hands and being covered in mud from head to foot. Your champion is the dirtiest politician I, or the country, has ever seen in the last 100 years. And while we are at it, he's a traitor to his country and his base, let alone the rest of us.
By phart at 07,Oct,19 15:36 other posts of phart 
There was only 1 other choice that had any votes and she makes Trump look like a saint.Her actions and attitude ruined her in regards to Bengazi and the email server thing.
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 15:51
Bengazi just happened. She did not get up one morning and said, "Those fuckers in the Benghazi embassy got to die." As always, you Trumpo cups quote stuff that happened many years ago. And the emails. So she used her private servers. Did she say, "If I use private servers I can compromise national security and get a badge of honor from Putin? No. She just did what was expedient and what many in government did at the time. Get over it, besides, she lost the elections. She is not the current president. The subject is dishonest, traitorous, white supremacist President Trumpo. Want to chat about him? Then defend him and his screwy ideas AS PRESIDENT. Don't bring Obama, Hilary, His first or second whore wives, his crooked old man, his lawyers or GOD. Defend him.
By phart at 07,Oct,19 15:56 other posts of phart 
HEhehehe, geez,you act like the years after Bengazzi is equal to a century. Trump has only been President for a little over 2 years. The sins of being with Stormy and grabbing a vagina,all happened before he started even running for prez. And this gobbity gook for a coward whistleblower,a small issue being blown out of proportion and used for sole purpose of ruining the man.
IN some ways i hope the impeachment proceedings can take place.I know it will consume resources better suited for other task,But once Trump walks away from that still President and gets reelected,the Dems will have to shut the fuck up and get back to the bussiness of Running America,and not into the ground as they are right now.
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 16:13
Again, defend him on his performance. I'm giving you an out. He's a perv and paid off Stormy just b4 the election to keep her quiet. But, what you say is trivial happens to be a serious breach of the laws of THE CONSTITUTION. If the second amendment is so important, then this is equally so. If he gets impeached, he will not be convicted, but, like Clinton with Lewinsky, he'll have this around his neck until he dies. And I strongly believe that no matter the outcome, he will not be re-elected.
By phart at 07,Oct,19 19:54 other posts of phart 
Check the unemployement rate.Check the stock markets.
Some evidence there of better times for the country as a whole since he took office. Help wanted signs in bussiness windows all around town that during the Hussein era were closed down or on short staff.
I could go on.But as brightly shineing as the evidence is to us here in the south east, I don't see the need. Stop looking at California and New York as barometers of America.Those are the spots that don't seem to want to get out of the funk.
Just look at what 16,000 or so voters put in Office in New york for evidence of that. An Occasional Cortex, AOC, cost New york 1000's of jobs when she worked against Amazon.
How many jobs came back to America? I know of 2 places that doubled thier employee numbers within a year of his being in office.

By the way, AOC making her boyfriend a instant millionaire was in the news recently.Why isn't she being charged? What she did was wrong to? OH, I forgot,she is a democrat,the other democrats don't care what their pack does.
By #601496 at 07,Oct,19 20:29
Phart, what you don't seem to understand is that he broke the law. No matter how good he is, he broke the law. Again, you are bringing up everything but an actual defence. And what does AOC have to do with Trumpo breaking the law? See? You, and all you rabid Trumpo supporters, like to blow smoke, confuse the issue, change the subject. But, this is all Trumpo. It's all his to claim. HE BROKE THE LAW. Good employment numbers don't matter. Hilary's pecadillos don't matter. Melania's affairs with the help don't matter. Obama's birth nation don't matter. The Space Force don't matter. Trumpo confessed on national TV to breaking the law. It's the only thing that matters. Can you defend his actions?
By phart at 07,Oct,19 21:31 other posts of phart 
Perhaps I am not able to get to the actual facts in the case to read them,verify them and then make a decision based on FACTS.But it is because they are not avaliable to us as citizens.We are fed the propaganda from the media and tidbits here and there. I don't know if he broke the law or not,I was not there,and I don't trust the sources of info I have. BUT what you are missing is my simple point. Every one is jumping on the bandwagon of TAKE DOWN TRUMP,and IGNORING all other suspected lawbreakers. According to how the system works, all are innocent until PROVEN guilty BY A COURT. Not the public opionion. You for example have him pegged as guilty in your mind without a fair trial,without seeing both sides of the story. Trump read the transcript to the people a few days ago.No one on the liberal side believed him,just as we don't belive the liberals side of the story.
As far as denying money to the Ukraine? What do we need to be giving money to them in the first place? We are in debt up to our ass's.

The whole idea in a nut shell is working because we the people are letting it work,division.Strength is in numbers,and the more you can divide people,as in Trump haters and Trump lovers, you can concour those people and control them.We are already controlled with the information we are allowed access to to some degree
By kebmo at 08,Oct,19 02:14 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, weather or not the US should be giving money to Ukraine is irrelevant. The issue is that it has been alleged that Trump told Ukraine's President Zelensky that Trump would hold back already promised money unless Zelensky investigated Joe Biden's actions. A constitutionally legal investigation is now under way to determine weather Trump's actions are an abuse of his authority.

By #601496 at 08,Oct,19 06:55
STILL, weather we should give money away or not, it was approved by Congress, both Democrats and REPUBLICANS. Using that money for personal gain is AGAINST THE LAW. This is not a Robert Muller thing. It's open and shut.

By #601496 at 08,Oct,19 06:51

Despite persistent accusations against President Obama, Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice, ten investigations — six by
Republican-controlled congressional committees — did not find that they or any other high-ranking Obama administration officials had acted improperly.


By #601496 at 17,Oct,19 07:20
The posibility is always there. The idea is to keep everyone in line. The problem is that this president is fighting every step.

By #596193 at 14,Oct,19 15:18
Conspiracy theory my ass !
By #601496 at 15,Oct,19 10:02
No, baby. Your ass is like the dark continent.

By talk5s at 07,Oct,19 14:32 other posts of talk5s 
Having read ALL these comments, I just would like to say, countries are outdated. Religion, also. Because all the major wars THROUGHOUT human history have been fought either over religion or 'dirt', meaning countries with invisible borders drawn on maps. Which have changed even in our lifetimes!...Or beliefs in one dumbass god or other. Imagine how FUCKING many gods there have been in history. THOUSANDS! Every one of which was believed in as much as people believe in their personal god(s) today. How about believing in John Smith? (Mormans and their 'magic underwear' which Romney wears TODAY!!!) Thor? Achilles? Narcisssus? teehee. sounds like the Donald as God in Chief! Aphrodite? ETC...We ALL live on a tiny planet as HUMANS. How STUPID that sounds! Right?...But only to those of limited knowledge/intelligence of how FUCKING isolated this planet is in reality. Humans are a plague. Destroying our own TINY 'lifeboat' by wars, pollution, just trashing it in general. Look in your own neighborhoods and imagine the trash you see there on a world wide scale...I know. Sounds so stupid, doesn't it? But, these TWO words...microcosm and macrocosm are 2 of the most OBVIOUS answers as to what has gone wrong on this planet, full of 7.5 Billion people growing exponentially every 'FUCKING' day!
Time to wake up. Do something constructive beyond arguing over this and that totally unimportant thing! Earth is your home. NOT your country! Do something today to save it, even if it's just picking up a piece of trash on the street. Or realizing the Donald cares NOTHING about you or your planet...
By phart at 07,Oct,19 15:59 other posts of phart 
I guess we should just all drink the "koolaid" and fall over and rot and let the monkeys and the whales have the earth back?
By #601496 at 08,Oct,19 09:35
I think I agree with you, Phart, on this one. I agree in general terms that humanity should try to clean up it's act, but, reality pops up and we have to deal with more pressing problems. I'll try not to pollute, kill, waste food, make more love to my lovers, but, right now my country, yes, my country is going through a crisis. Talk5s, you want to ride for the EARTH RANCH, go right ahead. I'll stay firmly on this USA ground.
By talk5s at 10,Oct,19 14:29 other posts of talk5s 

Hi Two and Phart-1st, I am REALLY wondering if these pictures will show on here. They are of Galaxies, Earth in our Milky Way Galaxy, etc. Just to show my viewpoint about countries with their meaningless borders compared to how incredibly isolated our tiny planet is. Even the US, my country of birth and the best country on Earth, means nothing if this planet is threatened in it's totality. At least it WAS the best country until couple years ago.
One day, I am quite sure not SOON enough, the over 7 Billion people living on this tiny 'life boat' may actually wake up and see Earth is what is important. Borders will cease to exist in any struggle to save our beautiful, MICROSCOPICALLY small planet compared to anything else in it's galaxy, the Milky Way. Compared to the Universe, Earth is immeasurably small. No country on it's surface will matter at all if Earth is threatened by another asteroid? Global warming that becomes UNDENIABLE even to those too dumb to see the obvious. I am NOT talking about HOW it's happening. Just that it IS happening...A pandemic that science cannot stop? Like the Flu pandemic in 1916 (?) that killed more people than combatants in the 1st World War?...On a planet overloaded with 'humans', (there were only 1 Billion of us in 1800!!), those types of pandemics become even more likely. When that or anything else happens, it will be the day of the 'awakening', when EVERYBODY knows without a doubt, this planet, one of Billions (?) in the Universe, can actually DIE and it will NOT matter compared to the unimaginably huge scope of the Universe that contains it. Keep in mind there are also BILLIONS of galaxies.
Phart-As has been stated lots of times, it will likely be cockroaches/bacteria that will inherit this earth after us. Assuming they unleash the many thousands of Nukes owned by 9 countries. If one of them launches, it will be like a match in a fireworks factory...My bet is that is a foregone conclusion. Like the Stock Market, it's just a matter of timing. Something that is impossible to do.
Two-USA ground is not firm when looked at from a point in the center of this Galaxy. Likely not firm just because our country is dying, having lived it's 250+ years, historically speaking.
Too bad, so sad, but the truth is hard to accept. Simply because every person on this beautiful planet thinks the SAME thing...It CANNOT happen to them.
Do I have an answer to what I see as inevitable? Hell NO! Not as long as Earth is collection of countries out for themselves. Funny, that sounds JUST like the US Congress and it's idiots, all supposedly elected by the people...Dream on. That is an allusion and has been probably since 1776...--------------------------------------- added after 3 minutes
This did not show in previously. Earth in our galaxy.
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Holy Crap! One little edit and the pictures evaporated!

Last picture is from Hubble in just a tiny sector of the Universe. Those are mostly Galaxies.
By phart at 10,Oct,19 15:11 other posts of phart 
Since we are on such a small planet do we just all bend over a barrel and let the power hungry bump us from behind until dead? We have to stand up for what is ours or some sob will take it from us.

I aint given 1 bit of a damn about how tiny earth is.But during my few seconds on it,I am going to TRY,notice i did say try,to be happy and help those around me in need.
And I am NOT giving up the standard of living I have worked hard for just to suit the greenie weenies.
In the 60's we had fine,decent looking powerful cars and fine homes with style.Now we are expected to drive cracker boxes and live in partical board wonders while eating tofu and drinking bottled spring water that actually came from the local river.
By talk5s at 16,Oct,19 13:27 other posts of talk5s 
Hi Phart-Have you NOT noticed it ain't the 60's anymore? That WAS a great decade, I totally agree with you! But it's around 60 some years later and things have changed. A LOT...For instance...and this is the TELLING factor as to what is truly happening...In 1960 the World's population was 3 Billion or so. Keep in mind that in 1800 the World's population was just 1 Billion. But it took a few thousand years to reach that comparatively small number. Today the World's population is 7.7 Billion! Look at that geometric progression, from thousands of years to get to just 1 Billion to the fact that in our lifetimes, Phart, the population has more than DOUBLED! ...You know when I 1st started quoting these numbers just a few years ago, the population was just 7.5 Billion. In a few years it grown by a couple hundred thousand, DESPITE all the natural deaths, deaths in war, murder, suicide and accidents. Earth cannot support many more of us. The tipping point is very near.
So, in a nutshell, no more 60's gluttony with nice homes, cars, food...mainly food. There will soon be not enough of that for all of 'us'. Same for water.
I say this while owning a car with a fantastical handbuilt engine. Dual overhead cam V-8 with 6 (!) bolt mains, hemi heads with 4 valves stuffed in them and totally aluminum. It's a thing to behold...I wish it could be the 60's forever, too.
By phart at 16,Oct,19 14:49 other posts of phart 
Well,part of that population that has doubled is in parts of the world,such as Africa,that were not able to support the people it had a 100 years ago.And yet,the US and other countrys ship food and clothes there by the ship load.BUT God forbid mentioning sending some birth control pills or offering condoms or vasectimys to those starving people.That would be violating their rights! As in making a child and watching it starve with flys all over it isn't violating that childs rights to a good life?
As for here in the US, Immigration and the immigrants ways of making big familys is taking it's toll on our resources.But there again,can't say anything,violating their "rights". Some of the problem could be curtailed,if people would act senseably. Stop making babies!
By talk5s at 16,Oct,19 15:28 other posts of talk5s 
Well Phart-China, the country that will take our place very soon as 'topdog' did try couple decades ago by making it illegal for parents to have more than one kid. Did not work, obviously, as they and India have the World's largest populations. And I agree, America has done MUCH to support the rest of the world's countries...As far a child's rights to a good life, well that happened for children in the Western World, but not so much in the rest of the world. Hard truth, people WILL not stop fucking as that is required for ANY creature's survival on this planet. That's why it feels SO good!...As far as we are concerned, acting sensibly in the heat of the moment is nearly impossible. Particularly YOUNG people just getting their 'fucking' rights around 18.
Immigrants...ARE US, Phart. Remember? This country was built on immigrants fucking their brains out. We 'Baby Boomers' are just the 2nd or 3rd generation of that massive wonderful coupling that 'made this country great'.
As I have been trying to get across, countries are NO longer 'it'. Simply because our World cannot afford to have 195 separate countries out JUST for themselves anymore. Time for EVERYONE to wake up and see Earth for what it is...Forgive me for offending anyone of religious our TRUE SAVIOR. If we fuck it up by launching nukes, letting it warm to levels that start to effect the ecosystem, etc...we are ALL doomed and EVERY stupid disagreement between individuals or countries...will NOT matter in the least. We are at the tipping point in MANY arenas. Borders, fishing industry, crop industry, steel, aluminum, beryllium, politics, LUNATICS, etc...
I have said it is TOO late but who am I to say?? I will be (thankfully) shuffling off this mortal coil in the next 20 years...or sooner. We, you and I Phart, have left a big mess for those that came after us. I am glad I lived just when I did as it may have been the best possible time to live a basically peaceful life.

By Scorps at 10,Oct,19 17:53 other posts of Scorps 
JEEBUS Talk5s! I don't even know where to start with you... Good job there!

I WILL ask you this... Are you perchance driving a Prius with a "co-exist" emblem on the rear? 🤔

I COMPLETELY agree with some of what you are saying, we SHOULD be good stewards of OUR planet for sure!

Me and Mine do in fact do our share of attempting to give back to the earth i.e. helping clean up our local rivers from all the trash and debris that are in it. Along with a section of a major highway that we've adopted. Trying to recycle as much as we can, avoiding littering, and ensuring that our Automobile's are properly maintained.

Now, honestly, how many others do the same? Don't even get me started when I found out what REALLY happens to everyone's efforts to separate recycled items. 😠

All that being said. I agree with the other's take on what you're saying here.

ARE YOU OF THE BELIEF WE (HUMANS) SHOULD ALL TAKE LETHAL DOSES OF ARSENIC and just say fuck it? If SO you're faaar more fucked up than I EVER imagined.

This argument of yours is SO far out there, it will NEVER gain traction. And if it did, what the hell kinda place would we be living in? I think you've immersed yourself into the Star Trek world too deeply. Afterall, a lot of what you are suggesting plays out in that Universe. It will NEVER happen. If it did or does it will be looooong after you and I are gone. Guess what! President Donald J Trump has no effect on the things you are speaking about. Matter of fact, the shit you're talking about, needs it's very own thread topic. I'm being serious!

Lastly... Funny how you didn't even give the man credit for his 6th branch of the military, Space Force, as it will be obviously needed for the things you're speaking of. OR maybe we shouldn't be leary of outside races/species that may come a calling...
By phart at 12,Oct,19 17:47 other posts of phart 
You know,think about how much polution our decaying bodies would put into the air and earth if we all "drank the koolaid" at the same time?
The maggots and buzzards would be in hog heaven but everything else would suffer for a while.

By talk5s at 15,Oct,19 15:18 other posts of talk5s 
You know what? I have thought more than once you and I see things very much the same having read some of your other posts, Scorpio. However, I do not understand this response. Don't think I ever mentioned arsenic and certainly would NEVER advocate that or anything similar. Or was that a symbol of what you THOUGHT I said?...Maybe it's just my outlook about this planet and it's 'human' cargo? Because if that is it, you are right. We are doomed as long as we have ignoramus's (did I spell that right? Doubt it) running ALL the governments on this planet! Not one of them see's beyond the tip of his/her nose or beyond the boundaries of whichever country they are 'running'.
And as far as the trumpleheimer, NO, I cannot give him credit for ANYTHING as he just loves himself, NOT you, us or even his family!...As far a a 'Space Force', well VERY sadly, that is indeed needed. Simply because history has led us to this point...It's sort of like El Dingaling pulling out of Syria. Nice if history had NOT led us to the point of HAVING to stay there and help our ALLIES. The ones that did most of the heavy lifting getting ISIS to near oblivion. Now this country and others need a Space Force, just to survive on this planet. Just a natural progression of warfare...Which, leads us back to my main point that human'kind' is doomed. Because history of war after FUCKING war has led us to a point that has us ADDICTED to killing anyone/everyone that has different viewpoints/BORDERS than we have. We are so far behind the 'power curve' that there is little chance of ever recovering either ourselves or our tiny little planet from it's/our fate. Unless something entirely MAGICAL happens and we all wake up at the same time to this dangerous place we all find ourselves in. Which is living on a tiny, beautiful lifeboat in the infinity of Space. Not likely to happen in time.
I am being serious too. Donald J. trump (I refuse to capitalize that idiotic narcissist's name) is just the end result of 'recent' history, meaning the last 100 or so years. He is the MOST dangerous 'dictator' this country has ever had. I say that knowing America has never truly been a Democracy. Just a wonderfully presented illusion since WWII.
Lastly...funny that you don't realize how you have been had by this supposed 'man'. But I do understand how that has happened. He said all the right things at just the right time to convince a lot of disenfranchised Americans to vote for him. And now, all those that DID vote for him have seen what a mess he has made of both this country and it's place in the world. I know, believe me, I KNOW how nearly IMPOSSIBLE it would be to actually admit to voting for this dangerous lunatic. One that you all hoped would 'grow' after being president and represent this country WELL. He has NOT as evidenced by his recent withdrawal from Syria and how FUCKED up that has become. AFTER stating and I QUOTE; "that if Turkey does anything that I, in my great and unmatched wisdom, consider to be off limits" ETC.!!!
I say again...REALLY? That one CRAZY statement by your prez does NOT speak to you about who he REALLY is? A King wannabe. A Dictator like all his best buddies, Putin, Xi, fat little N. Korean smarter than trump fuckhead? Who writes him 'love letters' that are so beautiful?
Admitting the truth would be the same as admitting he is an abject failure as leader of America. As well as admitting to your own mistake in voting for him...It's OK. We all make mistakes, but most of us cannot admit to them

By #601496 at 15,Oct,19 18:10
June, 2016 – Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington 2013, accused Donald Trump of sexual misconduct at the Miss USA pageant. Searles posted a photo of contestants with Trump on Facebook, saying, “One guy treated us like cattle,” and “proceeded to have us lined up so he could get a closer look at his property.”
By phart at 15,Oct,19 19:54 other posts of phart 
If he was this bad,I don't think he would have a super model for a wife.
By Scorps at 15,Oct,19 23:49 other posts of Scorps 
She's just scratching for anything to make him look badly.

Hugh Hefner did the very same thing when he assessed his models, do you hear any outcry about him? NO!

By #601496 at 16,Oct,19 08:26
Phart, and yet he does, but, remember, she's a whore who traded pussy for luxury. Idi Amin had beautiful wives

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By kebmo at 15,Oct,19 02:27 other posts of kebmo 
I really feel bad for Rudy Giuliani. He really was America's Mayor after 9/11. He was a hero and showed great leadership during New York's and America's darkest hours.
I wish he had just ridden off into the sunset and never gotten involved with Trump.
I bet that Trump will throw Giuliani under the bus by Halloween.
What awaits him is unknown at this point but I doubt it will end pleasantly for Rudy. He will probably go down in history as an associate of Trump now. SAD.

By kebmo at 12,Oct,19 01:29 other posts of kebmo 
Disinformation is intentionally false or inaccurate information that is spread deliberately. It is an act of deception and false statements to convince someone of untruth. Disinformation should not be confused with misinformation, information that is unintentionally false.
By Scorps at 12,Oct,19 03:11 other posts of Scorps 
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the EXACT kind of "DISINFORMATION" you speak of?

I implore you to find a transcript that says any sorta bullshit like he just spouted off. So, I'm curious if I got your definition correct. 🤔
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Guess which version MOST of America and the World saw...

Did you guess the lying piece of shit, in the first clip(the top clip)? If so, then you would be correct.

Now, what part of what he said was "illegal" OR "unconstitutional"?
By kebmo at 12,Oct,19 03:15 other posts of kebmo 
No. I read it in an article on CBC news referring to the upcoming Canadian election. I put it here because it refers to all politics...and measles vaccines..... and men walking on the moon...and the earth being flat or round...
By Scorps at 12,Oct,19 03:36 other posts of Scorps 
Well, for you and whoever's viewing pleasure I have posted what the world saw and what was actually said. That type of shit is what infuriates people. The LIES, embellishments or disinformation... The shit needs to STOP! Look at how they treated Ellen DeGeneres lately just for sitting with former President George Bush. It's ridiculous! But this kind of stuff is incredibly dividing our country. It's sad, they lost, get over it and run someone worth a shit to beat him if you don't like him. But instead, they have done NOTHING for 3 years but focus on trying to change the will of the people, by trying to overturn an election.

By kebmo at 10,Oct,19 19:53 other posts of kebmo 
Some FOX News Polls.

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By Scorps at 11,Oct,19 23:50 other posts of Scorps 
Nice to see a reputable source for a change. Good job!

That being said... It's still NEVER going to happen. This is nothing more than a distraction. In the words of Texas representative Al Green... The only way we can beat him, is to impeach him. Right on Al! ✊ Now there's a politician that speaks SOME truth. 😉 It will be shot down in the Senate like a Japanese ZERO in 1942. Therefore, a COMPLETE and UTTER waste of time. To hell with their constituents. Unno, they have been talking about impeachment since 2 hours after being sworn in. You don't find that just a lil ridiculous or suspicious?
By kebmo at 12,Oct,19 00:20 other posts of kebmo 
The fact that it was a FOX News poll is what caught my eye. Personally, I don't believe he will serve a second term because of impeachment or not being reelected.
Of course if I could predict the future I'd be into sports betting in Vegas.
By Scorps at 12,Oct,19 00:26 other posts of Scorps 
Lol That's for sure!

Since you're a betting man, put your money, errr points where your mouth is... I will bet you, RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW 500 syd points Donald J. Trump remains the President of the United States until 2024. I AM a g.a.m.b.l.i.n.g. man and rarely lose.

Really it censors g.a.m.b.l.i.n.g.
By kebmo at 12,Oct,19 00:51 other posts of kebmo 
I didn't say I'm a betting man. As a matter of fact, gambllng was one of the vices that I didn't have to beat so I'll pass on the bet but I would be happy to offer a five pack of if I'm wrong.
By Scorps at 12,Oct,19 00:54 other posts of Scorps 
Ok, I'll look forward to it then. 😘
By kebmo at 12,Oct,19 00:59 other posts of kebmo 
seven teen is also banned... seventeen WTF? Sixteen and eighteen are just fine thank you. Oh it's not banned any more. Wow, what progress.

By kebmo at 10,Oct,19 17:40 other posts of kebmo 
OK Rudy, get ready to see the underside of Donald's bus! It sure is getting crowded under there.

This is from FOX News.
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By phart at 09,Oct,19 20:11 other posts of phart 
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By Ananas2xLekker at 11,Sep,19 12:01 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
To almost everyone in Europe it is absolutely clear that Trump doesn't care about anyone but himself and that the only skill he has is conning people. Everything he has done so far has been damaging for most people, except for some very rich people, who put money in his pockets by staying in his hotels.

I understand why some people could have been misled by his promises and voted for him, but I really don't understand that so many people still believe his lies and would vote for him again.
By kebmo at 11,Sep,19 13:30 other posts of kebmo 
A lot of people in the world hope like hell that he’s a one term “President”.
By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 14:20
I for one

By phart at 30,Sep,19 20:07 other posts of phart 
We all hoped Obama was a 1 term prez to and that was 1 wish we and America didn't get.

By Scorps at 11,Sep,19 14:13 other posts of Scorps 
On the bright side, look at it like this...

OUR President has NO affect on either of you. Therefore, feel free to continue to bathe in your unfounded hatred.

You should try taking the position I have about YOUR leadership. I know NOTHING about them, don't care to know ANYTHING about them, and quite frankly, could CARELESS about them. They have ZERO affect to MY life! If YOU two believe you live in a utopia in your respective countries. I applaud you for your patriotism for your country's and their/your way of life. 👏👏👏

Why hate on another Countries leader? I feel safe to say, it MUST be out of jealousy. If you think it's SO bad here, why do SO many want to be here? I don't hear of people knocking down the doors to enter Europe (muslims don't count) OR Canada for that matter. GEE, I wonder why...

Had you ever bothered to consider why people just want to visit your nations and not stay there?

If the U.S. under Donald J Trump is SO fucking awful, why are there not droves of people trying to get into Canada or Europe and leaving this pisshole of a country under this President?
By kebmo at 11,Sep,19 17:04 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio you are obviously very ill informed about anything Canadian.
Just a few pointers for your information.
-Your President put a lot of Canadians out of work when he put tariffs on Canadian steel and aluminum. He has a lot of affect on Canadian exporters. I wrote a blog story about it and this is it. /blogs/36975.html
-I know you know nothing about the Canadian government. Most Americans have no idea what is happening in the Parliament Buildings of Canada. Generally, the further south you live the less you know about Canada. Canadians know a LOT more about the US than Americans know about Canada. Did you know that in 38 American states their biggest trading partner is Canada?
-The reason you don't know about the Canadian Immigration system and the numbers of people who choose to come to Canada, including Muslims is because your information is probably derived from a source that speaks primarily about American news and not International news. You just don't know what happens outside the US boarders.
-I am probably more informed about what goes on in the USA than the average American. I'm something of a news junkie and in Canada we get all of the American TV stations, and I watch Fox, CNN, and NBC news regularly. I also watch the main Canadian News Networks, CTV and CBC so please don't assume that because I live in Canada that I don't know what goes on it the country of our biggest trading partner.
- One final thing; my brother works in the steel industry in Hamilton, Ontario and he was laid off because of the tariffs imposed by Trump, so yes his actions do affect me personally.
Trump will either be a one term President or will do his two terms and life will go on; he's but a blip in this moment of history and we're all along for the ride.
By phart at 11,Sep,19 19:03 other posts of phart 
Well,Europe is over yonder,I am over here.As long as thier European Union stays over there all will be well. I couldn't care less what the europeans think of America. We fought for and won our indenpendance from England years ago. The only thing we need to do in regards to Europe is we all need to pay our fair share to Nato and honor our commitments to look after each other if attacked by a enemy forc3. As was done in the 2 world wars.

Kembo,Sorry about your brothers lost job.I hope he is able to find another to replace it.
But here locally a company,has doubled it's work force.They make metal for military projects and jet aircraft.
Trump is trying to fix America.While past leaders,even Bush,have spent to much time trying to fix other countrys while this 1 has went in the toilet.When we blew up Afganistan,we should have stuck our flag up in the middle of it.Not rebuild it and sit there for our men to be killed and maimed by bombs.
IF America can get back on it's own feet and take care of it's own people,perhaps there will be time and energy that could be applied to helping our neighbors. To many steel mills up north have been closed down and jobs lost by the 100's because of imports.
Perhaps Canada,like the US, needs to look at improving it's infastructure.Which would provide jobs in the steel industry and others to rebuild bridges,pipelines and so on.
IF America does not soon improve it's electrical grid alot of us are going to smell smoking wires and be in the damn dark.ALot of the grid in this part of the country is over 50 years old and underated for the load that the electric car will put on it
By onthelose at 21,Sep,19 23:46 other posts of onthelose 
Finally someone who recognizes the danger of the up coming EV market. We have brown outs now when its to hot and everyone turns on their coolers. No solar and wind will not, in its current form ,provide enough power to offset the demand, considering the growth of the electrical demand in the states.
By kebmo at 22,Sep,19 13:07 other posts of kebmo 
Ontheloose, I live in Alberta, Canada and we have a few huge wind farms and solar arrays. These are not meant to replace the natural gas power stations but to enhance them and prevent the need for more power stations to be built.
But... Alberta has only 4.4 million people and it's just a bit smaller than Texas which has 28.7 people so the problem is bigger in more populated areas but there are areas where it does help.
I don't think electric vehicles will replace gas powered vehicles this century because, as you said, the need for so much electricity just can't keep up.
I saw on PBS the other day that Amazon is ordering 100,000 electric vehicles to be delivered in the next decade. Spread out over North America, it will be easier to deal with.
Electricity is all about infrastructure, just like roads, gas stations and airports.
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By Scorps at 12,Sep,19 10:48 other posts of Scorps 
Hey Keb,

point taken and I concede I hadn't the foggiest idea about how the U.S. may have affected you Canucks. You're absolutely right, I ONLY pay attention to news about THIS country. Albeit I'm sorry to hear about your brother due to steel tariffs, I'm equally as happy that hundreds were remployed by a local steel producer near me that was shut down during the reign of Obummer. I certainly don't mean to sound selfish, but it is OUR interests (the U.S.) that should be #1 priority. If you think it is in fact selfish to be that way, then let me remind you... ANY given disaster in ANY part of the world, the U.S. is the biggest contributor of aid to those in need. Whether it be financial aid, to supplies, to using OUR military. That being said, other countries have been taking advantage of the United States for a very long time. It's about time we have someone, a business man, put his foot down and stop all the leeching. Whether you like him or not, he's done more in a short period of time then the last 3 presidents. For that, I applaud him and hope he continues to drain the swamp of the politicians that just don't give a damn about us, the people. Notice how they pushed their stupid healthcare bullshit, yet not one of them politicians on either side of the isle gave up their Cadillac government plans. They are NO better than the rest of us and surely shouldn't get preferential treatment over the rest of the citizens. But they do anyway.
By phart at 12,Sep,19 17:11 other posts of phart 
Yea,I guess if Trudeu "spelling" looked after Canada as well as Trump has the US, no jobs would be lost in either country.Canada would work on improving it's self as we work to improve ourselves.I think canada's leadership would rather blame their problems on the US than do anything to prevent problems.
By kebmo at 12,Sep,19 19:57 other posts of kebmo 
Phart do you know anything about the Canadian economy? I think not. Right now our unemployment rate is low and it's humming right along.

Scorpio and Phart: When Trump put tariffs on steel (25%) and aluminum (10%) he did it to countries who he thought were "threats to the US National Security". That's when we lost it. Canada a threat to the US National Security??? What we did then is put tariffs on $16.6 Billion worth of American imports into Canada, especially stuff made in "red" states. How did Trump reply to that? Do you know what he did Phart? Scorpio? He did nothing! He just let us do it because he knew we were right and he started a trade war with the closest friend and ally and the biggest trading partner of the United States. That's not how friends treat friends.
Putin, Un et al. are in his "good books" while Canada is a threat to the National Security to the US. SMH
By phart at 12,Sep,19 21:23 other posts of phart 
And we are supposed to like the "red" states being snubbed by our nieghbor.what kind of freinds were we? Rainy day freinds? All was well until we tried to look out for ourselves a bit?

By Skittles at 12,Sep,19 20:34 other posts of Skittles 
Missed the time when anyone gave a fuck about Canada or Europe.. Well, unless they have their hands out for US aid or military help
By kebmo at 12,Sep,19 21:56 other posts of kebmo 
Here's a blog story I wrote about one time the US needed our help and Canada was there for you, of course. /blogs/32585.html
By phart at 12,Sep,19 22:55 other posts of phart 
first I heard of this, our media must have ignored it.
By mr_blue at 13,Sep,19 10:20 other posts of mr_blue 
even salt looks like sugar....
American media is just opinion now,no real journalism takes place cuz it costs too much,so it's all click bait....
And the media that is any good ends up behind a paywall...
So the media that offer free viewing can shout loudest as it were....

By kebmo at 12,Sep,19 22:20 other posts of kebmo 
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By kebmo at 12,Sep,19 22:22 other posts of kebmo 
Tom Brokaw will tell you a bit about Canada.
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By Ananas2xLekker at 13,Sep,19 15:54 other posts of Ananas2xLekker 
Do you still believe he is draining the swamp? He is doing the exact opposite. You don't know anything about your own country as well.
I agree that draining the swamp is needed badly in your country, but there are no republicans who will ever do that and maybe only one or two democrats. Sorry you have such shitty choices.

Why would I care? Because all the downturns start in your country. We are still recovering from your last one and you're heading fast to the next one.

By #578610 at 11,Sep,19 17:52
Scorpio69. Everyone in the world has the right to criticize this joke of a president. We are the leaders of the world. Right or wrong, when this country's economy catches a cold the other world economies get pneumonia. What's more, we are the ones that start wars and then we need to have the other countries help. When Dumb Trump started the tariff wars, he affected the markets in the whole world. I forget you don't know weather New Mexico is a state or a foreign country, but, please, Canada is our most supportive allied and best neighbor. They have every right to be worried.
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And, you Scorpio69, are a liar

By SrCums at 07,Oct,19 08:03 other posts of SrCums 
The real criminals are the democraps.. They know they can get total immunity then blame the person they want to go after. This has gone on since the beginning...

By phart at 04,Oct,19 21:07 other posts of phart 
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By kebmo at 04,Oct,19 21:51 other posts of kebmo 
When you click on this page, read every "news" headline on the page. I don't think that this is a valid source of factual information.
Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true.
By phart at 05,Oct,19 16:06 other posts of phart 
It was 1 of a dozen links I coulda posted.I first got wind of the story thru a email and tried to get more info and this link seemed to have more than the rest.
If there is any truth to this at all,it would put a different spin on what is going on. At least now we know which alphabet group the spineless complainer is from , the CIA, A group that Covers It's Ass.

By Skittles at 21,Sep,19 12:00 other posts of Skittles 
Why don't you start a thread about YOUR PM? Black Face Trudeau
By phart at 21,Sep,19 12:41 other posts of phart 
perhaps the Canadians are finally becoming embarrussed by him? I hope they wise up and get shed of him.He is making Canada laughing stock.
By kebmo at 21,Sep,19 12:50 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, our election is on October 21st. I really don't think it will make or break the decision of the electorate.
He really did something stupid and wrong but he has also done a lot of good things for Canadians and especially women and minorities. His first cabinet was 50% women and people of colour and he has done a lot towards reconciliation with indigenous people. He also facilitated 25,000 Syrian Refugees coming to Canada.
Check the Canadian news on October 22 to see how we decided.
By sinanff47 at 03,Oct,19 04:10 other posts of sinanff47 
Kebmo, ".. He really did something stupid and wrong ..."??

He went to an 'Arabian Nights' costume party, made out as the character, 'Aladdin'. What is wrong with that?

[OK, the son of a PM perhaps might have been a bit more 'conservative' in his 'costume', but in Canada, a long and well respected leader does not have to have his every word and action put through a 'racist?' filter.]
By kebmo at 03,Oct,19 04:23 other posts of kebmo 
sinanff47, Canada never had slaves and American slaves escaped to Canada by the thousands and they were welcomed with open arms by total strangers via the Underground Railroad. only registered users can see external links
However the concept of blackface is insulting to many people of colour, mostly Americans, so I respect their feelings as long as they are sincere and not faked for personal gain. There's a lot of "Holier than thou" bullshit related to this story.
I don't think the average Canadian really gives a shit. I know I don't.
By phart at 03,Oct,19 13:11 other posts of phart 
Blackface to me is just some sort of silly entertainment that someone finds funny.I just think it is silly.
The folks whineing about being offended are just getting a free ride on a train headed to no where.
And I will admit,it does give the impression of some people that have double standards. It is ok for me to go black face but if you do it, you are racist type thing.
Just this morning I watched a segment on the news about a Naacp person being accused of sexual harrasment.He said he was sorry and no charges will be filled. Let that be a KKK offical and they would riot for that person to be under the jail. Double standard.

By phart at 30,Sep,19 20:10 other posts of phart 
Whistle blower.Best I can tell without going to Websters, that is a chicken shit sumbitch that has some percieved dirt on someone but does not have the balls to PUBLICLY announce his knowledge or stand behind it.Instead,someone knows who he is because he is asking for federal protection.He should be suffereing federal prosectution unless he can SHOW his proof of what he is saying.
Since when was it wise to listen to someone's whispers in the shadows and ruin mens reputations? The man that could be ruined is right out in the open,why isn't the accuser?
By kebmo at 01,Oct,19 02:38 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, The Whistleblower Protection Act of 1989 was enacted to protect federal employees who disclose "Government illegality, waste, and corruption" from adverse consequences related to their employment. This act provides protection to whistleblowers that may receive demotions, pay cuts, or a replacement employee.

I think it's a great law. It was enacted by the 101st Congress under President George HW Bush in 1989. It covers a whole host of reasons that someone could, and should inform someone about what is happening at their place of work in the US Federal Government. Just have a glance at this Wikipedia article about what the basics are. Many countries, including Canada have their own version of these laws.

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By phart at 01,Oct,19 19:27 other posts of phart 
Well,I am not in agreement with a person being able to sit in the shadows and ruin others with falsehoods,rumors and half truths.
IF a "whistleblower" feels that what they have to say is so damn important,they should be wiling to stand publicly and proudly and disclose the truth for all to see..
By kebmo at 01,Oct,19 19:59 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, if their privacy (and job) is not protected then they might not report wrongdoing. This law is not a Trump thing it's a big picture government thing that most countries have in place.

Here's a hypothetical for you. If I was your boss in the military and I made a deal with Company X for tanks but they were going to give me $10,000 cash for every one our government bought (and you got nothing) wouldn't you want to report me to someone? If you reported me I would probably "downsize" your job and then you would be jobless and without the benefits, including health of course, that come with being employed with the government.
This law protects you from being fired or demoted.

By kebmo at 20,Sep,19 03:34 other posts of kebmo 
Guantanamo Bay prison has 45 soldiers for every prisoner.
-PBS News
By #578610 at 20,Sep,19 07:36
Kebmo, Guantanamo is not a run of the mill prison. Guantanamo is first and foremost a military base inside an enemy country. Since it was established it was part of a defence system for the US to make the Caribbean an American lake. When Fulgencio Batista was overthrown by Fidel Castro, it had to protect itself from within the island of Cuba. I, personally, would like to see all the prisoners to be moved to a reabilitated Alcatraz prison.
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Thousands of Americans visit the island every year. Two of my kids are married into Cuban families here, in Miami. I agree, our countries should be friendlier, but, there are a lot of old time hard line people in both governments. Trump is dismantling all the work of the previous administration. And Raul Castro is both an old time hater of the Yankees and surrounds himself with hardliners that don't want change.

By phart at 20,Sep,19 09:22 other posts of phart 
That is the type of work we should send to China.They can operate with less red tape.They would build a prison and could afford to put 45 guards PER prisoner.Which still aint enough.Those prisoners should never see sunlight.
By kebmo at 20,Sep,19 15:39 other posts of kebmo 
I think that the Chinese guards would be susceptible to bribery.
Cuba shouldn't be an enemy country to the US. Thousands of Canadians visit Cuba every year. My step brother even married a Cuban.
By Skittles at 21,Sep,19 11:57 other posts of Skittles 
Open a history book for fucks sake....
By kebmo at 21,Sep,19 12:39 other posts of kebmo 
I am very familiar with the history between the US and Cuba Skittles. I have also been there six times and I know that a lot of people there were happy with the strides that Obama made towards reconciliation between the two countries.
1959 was a long time ago.

By #596334 at 08,Sep,19 14:49
To all the trupsters dumpsters.

Thanks for fucking the world.
By #578610 at 08,Sep,19 15:28
Would you care to explain? Unless you don't have the balls.
By Scorps at 08,Sep,19 15:41 other posts of Scorps 
I'd like to hear that myself considering one of the representatives from his registered location... 🤔
By #578610 at 08,Sep,19 16:43
Perhaps, you Scorpio, can enlighten our esteemed co-member how he can read my comment.

By phart at 08,Sep,19 15:50 other posts of phart 
Forgive me,but may I ask a question and get a HONEST answer?
What has Trump done the last 2 years to affect your way of life to prompt a negitive attitude in regards to him?
I am not trying to be negitive here,I am simply trying to understand?
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Notice the lack of a answer?

By #578610 at 08,Sep,19 16:41
Forgive me,but may I ask a question and get a HONEST answer?
What has Trump done the last 2 years to affect your way of life to prompt a negitive attitude in regards to him?
I am not trying to be negitive here,I am simply trying to understand?

I believe you are not trying to be "negitive". You want to know how detrimental Trump's policies are or were to me.
The biggest change to my life is that my budget is growing in leaps and bounds. He does not understand what tariffs do. They are a tax on the American public. That means me. If I want to but an item made in China I will have to pay much more. China quit buying agricultural products from us. Many farmers are loosing their farms. We will have to bail them out. That will come from my taxes. My 401K, my main retirement vehicle took a huge hit when the stock market reacted negatively to his trade policy. I had to liquify to cash. Many more things have been affected by his trade war.
Now, lets go to his immigration policy and, in particular, to the Mexican border. My tax dollars, dollars that are supposed to go to FEMA to help my fellow citizens and, God forbid, me, in a disaster, is being sent to "STOP ILLEGAL ALIENS" That last one's definition is the building of a wall that will stop no one from entering the country. He tried and is still trying to get Obama care thrown out. My medical lifeline is in danger.
Now, those are very tangible things. Some that are not run the gamut. From discrediting our country in the eyes of our allies to embarrassing the Office of the President of the United States. This creates a bad feeling with our enemies that says we are weak.
And then, he is gutting or stopping work on the environment. Some will affect me, some my children and grandchildren.
And last, the erosion of our morality because he has demonstrated that he's a racist bigot.
Is this enough for you PHART?
By dgraff at 09,Sep,19 09:04 other posts of dgraff 
The farmers in Pennsylvania are doing quite well the two cash crops are corn used to make the crappie gas we are forced to burn and soybeans used in the crappie new whopper Burger King is trying to get me to eat
By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 11:03
Beg to differ, lollipop. Check your facts. “Crappy gas” production is way down because China is a major producer of it. It was on the fake news less than one week ago. The other was that Argentina was able to sell its whole crop of soybeans (second in size only to the US) because China bought theirs instead of ours.
By dgraff at 09,Sep,19 11:42 other posts of dgraff 
That’s what the news says I’m going by what I see with my own eyes and talking to the local farmers I do a lot of work for them so I talk to them every day
By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 12:22
Sweetie, talking to the locals is not reliable. I can go to Calle 8 (the most Cuban of Cuban town) and if I ask what they lost to Castro every one responds with, "I lost my 200 acre farm" That would mean Cuba is the size of Texas and Alaska combined.
By Scorps at 09,Sep,19 16:25 other posts of Scorps 
Tribute to: TWOWARMTTS2

By Scorps at 09,Sep,19 17:34 other posts of Scorps 

Point by point...

Tariffs! REALLY! It's ok to you that they manipulate their currency, steal intellectual property, and in MOST cases, produce substandard products utilizing lead and other cheap shit that poisons our children. Oh wait, I forgot! Children are expendable in your world. Anyway, if you purchase a Hot Wheel, unno those lil cars that many like to collect and play with. The tariff added to that would amount to about .03 cents per car. Whooptie fucking doo! That $6000.00 yearly figure you libs like to throw around as the cost of the tariff to the average American citizen is complete and utter BULLSHIT! Just like the world is ending in 12 years. Scare tactics, and you take the bait hook, line, AND sinker... Lastly on that point, BUY AMERICAN and you won't have to worry about a tariff, now would ya!

YOUR 401k took a hit? Then you must have some of the dumbest sunza bitches managing your money on this earth and you should consider firing them. OR 🤔 Is this some more smoke and mirrors OR flat out BULLSHIT!? Yours took a hit while my wife's has more than tripled. Who's REALLY full of shit?

"The building of a wall will stop no one from entering the country" YOU truly believe that, don't you?! If that were the case, how is there COUNTLESS HOURS UPON HOURS of video showing those people ILLEGALLY invading our country? Answer that!? What is that a figment of everyone's imagination? OR are you simply FULLA SHIT!? Could they casually be flooding our borders if there were barriers there? I'll answer for you... HELL NO THEY COULDN'T!

You seem to conveniently forget what the #1 REASON for taking taxes was/is... OR Do you even know? It damn sure wasn't to give every illegal son of bitch that crosses our border a handout. I'll tell you what taxes were originally designated for and even put it so YOU can read it without your bifocals... TAXES WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED TO BE USED TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY i.e THE MILITARY! Therefore, he is well within his rights to use said money for the security of THIS country and IT'S legal citizens and furthermore SWORN to protect us from enemies in OR out of this country. It's his #1 DUTY and he seems to be trying his best despite all the efforts of all the newfound radical idiot's that have managed to work there way into power.

I may address the rest of your NON-SENSE later, but I have somewhere to be.

For anyone else reading... IF you possess more than two brain cells you can easily debunk the rest of her BULLSHIT ramblings yourself.

Ta ta
By dgraff at 09,Sep,19 18:10 other posts of dgraff 
I Daniel Graff do give Scorpio69 all rights to use the picture of my trump 2020 hat as he sees fit
By Scorps at 09,Sep,19 18:18 other posts of Scorps 
You're a good man! Wait til you see her rebuttal to what I've written. 😉

By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 18:33


Point by point...

Tariffs! REALLY! It's ok to you that they manipulate their currency, steal intellectual property, and in MOST cases, produce substandard products utilizing lead and other cheap shit that poisons our children. Oh wait, I forgot! Children are expendable in your world. Anyway, if you purchase a Hot Wheel, unno those lil cars that many like to collect and play with. The tariff added to that would amount to about .03 cents per car. Whooptie fucking doo! That $6000.00 yearly figure you libs like to throw around as the cost of the tariff to the average American citizen is complete and utter BULLSHIT!


YOUR 401k took a hit? Then you must have some of the dumbest sunza bitches managing your money on this earth and you should consider firing them. OR 🤔 Is this some more smoke and mirrors OR flat out BULLSHIT!? Yours took a hit while my wife's has more than tripled. Who's REALLY full of shit?

"The building of a wall will stop no one from entering the country" YOU truly believe that, don't you?! If that were the case, how is there COUNTLESS HOURS UPON HOURS of video showing those people ILLEGALLY invading our country? Answer that!? What is that a figment of everyone's imagination? OR are you simply FULLA SHIT!? Could they casually be flooding our borders if there were barriers there? I'll answer for you... HELL NO THEY COULDN'T!
You seem to conveniently forget what the #1 REASON for taking taxes was/is... OR Do you even know? It damn sure wasn't to give every illegal son of bitch that crosses our border a handout. I'll tell you what taxes were originally designated for and even put it so YOU can read it without your bifocals... TAXES WERE ORIGINALLY DESIGNATED TO BE USED TO PROTECT THIS COUNTRY i.e THE MILITARY! Therefore, he is well within his rights to use said money for the security of THIS country and IT'S legal citizens and furthermore SWORN to protect us from enemies in OR out of this country. It's his #1 DUTY and he seems to be trying his best despite all the efforts of all the newfound radical idiot's that have managed to work there way into power.
For anyone else reading... IF you possess more than two brain cells you can easily debunk the rest of her BULLSHIT ramblings yourself.



By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 18:47
Looks like our BIG MAN has left the building,,,flash in the pan,,,,like his daddy!!

By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 18:49

By phart at 20,Sep,19 09:24 other posts of phart 
I guess this was just another trouble making fake profile?

By #578610 at 20,Sep,19 07:24

By Scorpio69 at 19,Sep,19 02:43

Justin Trudeau involved in some questionable, unethical practices! 🤔🤔 Say it isn't so...


By Scorps at 19,Sep,19 02:43 other posts of Scorps 
Justin Trudeau involved in some questionable, unethical practices! 🤔🤔 Say it isn't so...
By phart at 19,Sep,19 15:31 other posts of phart 
I saw some pics this morning of him in "blackface". Never considered it to be anything but entertaining humor but nowadays if you did that 40 years ago , you are suddenly now a racist bastard.

BUT you know,he is so well loved up there,I bet he gets back in.
By Scorps at 19,Sep,19 17:25 other posts of Scorps 
I PERSONALLY don't give a shit about it or anyone for that matter that has done it. As I just don't see the relevance to an insult. I think it's stupid and absurd to make a fuss about it frankly. BUT! When the libs wanna get their uptight panties in a ruffle and start calling everyone and their brothers a racist, they conveniently wanna overlook those that do these/those things that THEY claim are SO fucking racist i.e. "Blackface". Just ask any lib about the movie "White Chicks", they'll surely tell you that wasn't racist. Therefore, as long as its someone on THEIR side, it's all in jest and o.k. Right!? But Mr. Trudeau seems to have been involved in even more scandal. You'll hear about it in the days to follow. I'm fairly certain he will weather the storm as Canada is obviously riddled with liberals. I ONLY brought it up because it reminds me of that age old proverb "let him who is without sin cast the first stone". They sure like to throw rocks don't they...
By phart at 19,Sep,19 18:06 other posts of phart 
Yea, the fact Bill clinton was in "blackface" and overalls,didn't bother a soul in the liberal group.But if Trump had even thought about getting in "Blackface" at age 10, he would be getting impeached for it in 2019

By kebmo at 20,Sep,19 02:33 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, everyone agrees that it was wrong but the general consensus about this is that he was young and it was a long time ago. Personally it doesn't bother me. He'll make it through because he's done a lot to make minorities inclusive since he's been Prime Minister. It's just not as big a deal in Canada as it is in the US. I don't think it will make or break the election.
"Canada is obviously riddled with liberals"??? Wrong. The last Prime minister was from the Conservative Party and he was elected for three consecutive terms. We change them out just like the US does.

By kebmo at 18,Sep,19 01:38 other posts of kebmo 
The more I see and listen to Elizabeth Warren the more I think that she will be the Democratic nominee. I think that Biden is really too old and forgetful and Sanders is just toooo....Bernie. The rest are pretty well out of the race.
Warren is articulate, knows what she will do if elected (has a plan for that) and doesn't dodge the questions.

Meanwhile...the Canadian election to elect a new or reelect the current Prime Minister will be on October 21st. The whole process takes about two months and I think Prime Minister Justin Trudeau will be reelected.
By #578610 at 18,Sep,19 07:55
I like Trudeau. I also like Warren. She knows her stuff but, I don't think the country is ready for another woman candidate. To me, and many other voters, beating Trump is more important than knowledge. Biden has the best chance.

By phart at 18,Sep,19 09:48 other posts of phart 
If push came to shove and I had to pick a democrat ,I would probably choose Biden over the rest of them.
At least he tried to nip the crime problems like drugs in the bud back then instead of letting it all become the monster it is today.
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By kebmo at 17,Sep,19 07:17 other posts of kebmo 
I don't understand why the US militarily would even consider getting involved in the Iran and Saudi conflict. The US, Canada, the UK and France have sold the Saudi Kingdom hundreds of billions of dollars worth of military equipment. Let them use that stuff if they want. It is not the job of the US to police the world and have their men and women killed because of yet another dispute in the Mideast.
I don't think Trump will get involved at all. He'll talk and threaten but he knows that once you start that shit it's a slippery slope and before you know it hundreds or thousands of American soldiers are dead and a decade or two has passed.
By phart at 17,Sep,19 09:47 other posts of phart 
Several presidents,some I voted for, have made the mistake of allowing the US military to be rent a cops for these rich countrys.That shit does need to stop.When we went to the middle east after 9-11,we should have got the targets we were after,and got the hell out.The rocks in the middle east are worn slick from being thrown so much.The battle will not end if we stick our noses in it,never has,never will.The very concept of living in peace does not compute with those people.

By #578610 at 17,Sep,19 09:49
I hope you are right, KEBMO. We don't need to get involved in other nation's wars. What we think as policing actions the rest of the world calls it a form of colonialism and consider the USA as a war mongering rogue nation.

By kebmo at 13,Sep,19 07:17 other posts of kebmo 
"Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right."

-Ricky Gervais
By phart at 13,Sep,19 10:09 other posts of phart 
That applies to EVERYONE! Regardless of political leanings.
By kebmo at 13,Sep,19 16:02 other posts of kebmo 
Yes it does.

By dgraff at 13,Sep,19 12:25 other posts of dgraff 
So I watched about 10 minutes of the democratic debate last night it was all I could take the Democrats have nothing to offer this race I think half the people running can’t even speak English what is this country coming to I’m registered a Democrat but haven’t voted for one sense bill Clinton and I didn’t vote for him because of his views I voted for him because he was a pervert like all of us
By Scorps at 13,Sep,19 12:40 other posts of Scorps 
Lol They have lost their fuckin minds Bro. I'm ashamed I registered as such in my youth. Like you, Clinton was the last for me as well. And now that I know what I know, they are even more of a disgrace to the United States. Funny thing about that... EVEN one of my Black Heroes (M.L.K.) knew the Democratic party sucked ass, waaaaay back then. Which is why he had the good sense to be registered as a Republican. I mean it! I've tried to look at these slobs running on the Dems side objectively. They are fucking insane! No other way to state it.

By #578610 at 13,Sep,19 14:19
This country is and has always been multi-language. Italians in New York, French in New Orleans, Irish in Boston, Spanish in Los Angeles. Don't forget that Puerto Rico is all Spanish. To be honest about myself, this election, for me, is not about what the Democrats offer, but about winning the election. All I wish for is for that idiot to be thrown out of office.

By Gntlmn at 11,Sep,19 13:23 other posts of Gntlmn 
Trunt has Putin's diarrhea in his belly, and LaPierre's piss up his nose
By Scorps at 11,Sep,19 14:24 other posts of Scorps 
By Gntlmn at 12,Sep,19 14:37 other posts of Gntlmn 
'Fuckin' A
you can't prove otherwise
By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 18:08
You are right. Up with Generalísimo Trump. We need you to stay for life. The country is fucked up. Maybe, after 20 yrs, we can call you Papá Trump. Please protect us from those people that want to get rid of the second amendment. Don't let all those dumbasses that died in those shootings become the reason to remove the second amendment. Why not start a program were beautiful women can sleep with you for a night. It's a better way to get fucked and Melania can join in.

By Scorps at 13,Sep,19 12:50 other posts of Scorps 
Oh no! I won't even attempt to, YOU'RE doing faar better than I can at illustrating it. 😉

By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 09:16
You, know? I've come to the conclusion that no one gives a damn anymore. Trump is here to stay. Guns are here to kill. The only truth is, with a little luck, they'll pick up your cadaver and bury it.
I've been here for about 4 yrs and while showing off is fun, listening to you, asshats, gets old.
By dgraff at 12,Sep,19 12:34 other posts of dgraff 
Why are we trying to save the world anyway each decade is worse then before it’s on a destructive path were all doomed anyway
By #578610 at 12,Sep,19 13:42
You are right. Let us rejoice the destruction of the world. Who needs it. Mankind is fucked up anyway

By phart at 09,Sep,19 08:44 other posts of phart 
I ask a simple question of Curved up,was I wrong to try to gain a understanding of such deep seated anger?
By #598172 at 09,Sep,19 08:56
It seems to me that your simple question was answered very well. I don't think you are wrong but I believe you failed to understand the answer. The deep seated hatred towards Mr Trump is no different than the deep seated hatred towards Mrs Clinton.
By phart at 09,Sep,19 10:14 other posts of phart 
apparently the answer is not visiable as I don't see anything posted after my question.Must have not been by the orignal poster of the question.There is a "member" that is blacklisted.That could be the reason I don't see the anwer you mentioned.
The hatred of Clinton is soundly based on her attitude and words,"what differnce does it make" and other such things.
Hatred may not the best word,more like dispise and wish they were just away somewhere else would be better.To hate is to be incapable of forgiveing..I dispise Obama for example for ruining my insurance coverage and causeing me to spend alot more money on health care,if I choose to get it instead of suffereing in pain or sickness to try to make ends meet.
I had good insurance and could afford a doctor visit before he came along.That is what I mean by soundly based reasons.
By #598172 at 09,Sep,19 10:48
I don’t understand why Obama screwed up your health insurance. I know many retirees that have great insurance with the current system and they don’t pay a dime.
By phart at 09,Sep,19 20:00 other posts of phart 
I had 80-20 with low copays.
I now have 70-30 with doubled copays and higher amounts that I have to pay out of pocket for hospital rooms and such.
All my cost went up.

How is that good for me?

Another case in point,a freind with 2 kids priced insurance thru the website and finally had to talk to someone over the phone.Just a basic plan was going to be over 1600 a month.and it was very high copays and such.
By #598172 at 09,Sep,19 20:22
Low income people can apply for help.
By phart at 09,Sep,19 20:40 other posts of phart 
To qualify for the help like medicaid,you can't have any more than 2000 in the bank,your car can not be valued at over 2000 dollars.
Sadly,I guess to some folks,I invested while I was working and my truck is worth about 3500.At my age I don't think it is wise to give up my investments just yet as the social security is broke and may not be there when I get old enough to qualify for it and medicare.
To get help you have to all but be on the can not have many if any fruits of your past labors.
kinda makes my having tried to work for a living a futile,and worthless struggle.
I guess we should all play by the liberal play book and just shit in the streets of San fransico and holler for free food or something.
By #598172 at 10,Sep,19 10:07
It can't hurt
By phart at 10,Sep,19 10:11 other posts of phart 
What can't hurt?,to shit in the streets and beg for food? That is not a life I want to live.
I want to be self maintaining and be healthy enough and strong enough and financely capable of helping my neighbors when they are knocked down.
Can't do that when you are restricted in what you can earn,what you can own,what you can do.

By phart at 10,Sep,19 13:33 other posts of phart 
perhaps the type of help you are speaking of is different than that folks around me have ask for? Tell me more about this "help" you speak of.

By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 14:21
I thought I would share this. Too funny for words.

By Freddy at 09,Sep,19 14:17⤴

you fucking nasty rat. You fucking fuck up brain is sagging like your old cunt. I know I am an asshole and proud of it.

By Happy_Guy at 08,Sep,19 15:01 other posts of Happy_Guy 
If you watch Seth Myers you’ll believe anything
By #578610 at 08,Sep,19 15:27
Well, then. Let's watch Steven Colbert. This is funny. I'm chatting with a clown about an award winning late night show host's ramblings about another clown

By Scorps at 08,Sep,19 15:33 other posts of Scorps 
Nah! She gets her news from THEE MOST CREDIBLE sources, as shown in EVERY link she posts. That being CNN, MSNBC, AND The Washington Compost.
By #578610 at 08,Sep,19 15:45
Let's not forget Foxtail Between the Legs news
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January 20, 2021, a day I will remember for the rest of my life. The day we, the people of this great nation, get delivered from the clutches of a megalomaniac. I will dance nude in the streets. I'll make love to strangers. I will sing. I'll probably will end up in the drunk tank, but, it will be worth it. My knees are getting weak.
By Happy_Guy at 09,Sep,19 02:28 other posts of Happy_Guy 
Can you do all that without the nude bit please
By Scorps at 09,Sep,19 03:09 other posts of Scorps 
No worries on that as there's not a chance in hell with the current nominee's that he will lose. 😉
By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 06:43
I will laugh my heart out, Scorpio69, when he looses. I will scour the forums for threads like yours and ask for an ass kiss. HAHAHA
By Scorps at 09,Sep,19 07:25 other posts of Scorps 
I'd voluntarily kiss your ass if my guy loses. The big question... What do I get when he wins. 😀
By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 07:44
He'll kiss your ass after he fucks you,,

By #578610 at 09,Sep,19 06:41
Yes, baby, I can,

By #578610 at 31,Jul,19 11:01
OVER AND OVER AND OVER. You really believe him?
"I'm the least racist in the whole world." What will it take for his base to disown him? Have they no shame?
By kebmo at 01,Aug,19 00:28 other posts of kebmo 
It has already been demonstrated many times that his base will be OK with anything he says no matter how absurd or ridiculous.
I honestly feel that he should be concerned about those paid to protect him and the one who will "take one for the team". It's a real threat and the Secret Service is well aware of it.
By #578610 at 01,Aug,19 05:22
You may be right. I am a rabid anti Trump, but, I want him out legally. The stain on the country's morality would be a shameful thing for the country.

By Scorps at 01,Aug,19 06:42 other posts of Scorps 
Just because you fuck a black guy you think that makes you the least racist person in the whole world, really?

Put the EXACT quote(s) up that gives you this fucking absurd "he's a racist" belief. YOU or Kebmo? Come on! Many of us are sick of hearing this stupid race baiting bullshit.

PUT THE QUOTES UP OR SHUT THE FUCK UP! SOLID ones, not ones by stupid ass interpretation.
By #578610 at 01,Aug,19 07:44
1973: The US Department of Justice — under the Nixon administration, out of all administrations — sued the Trump Management Corporation for violating the Fair Housing Act. Federal officials found evidence that Trump had refused to rent to black tenants and lied to black applicants about whether apartments were available
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When Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor,” Brown said. “It was the eighties, I was a teenager, but I remember it: They put us all in the back.”
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1991: A book by John O’Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino in Atlantic City, quoted Trump’s criticism of a black accountant: “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks
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1993: In congressional testimony, Trump said that some Native American reservations operating casinos shouldn’t be allowed because “they don’t look like Indians to me.”
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2004: In season two of The Apprentice, Trump fired Kevin Allen, a black contestant, for being overeducated. “You’re an unbelievably talented guy in terms of education, and you haven’t done anything,” Trump said on the show. “At some point you have to say, ‘That’s enough.’”
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2005: Trump publicly pitched what was essentially The Apprentice: White People vs. Black People. He said he “wasn’t particularly happy” with the most recent season of his show, so he was considering “an idea that is fairly controversial — creating a team of successful African Americans versus a team of successful whites. Whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world.”
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2010: In 2010, there was a huge national controversy over the “Ground Zero Mosque” — a proposal to build a Muslim community center in Lower Manhattan, near the site of the 9/11 attacks. Trump opposed the project, calling it “insensitive,” and offered to buy out one of the investors in the project. On The Late Show With David Letterman, Trump argued, referring to Muslims, “Well, somebody’s blowing us up. Somebody’s blowing up buildings, and somebody’s doing lots of bad stuff.”
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2011: Trump played a big role in pushing false rumors that Obama — the country’s first black president — was not born in the US. He even sent investigators to Hawaii to look into Obama’s birth certificate.
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For many people, none of these incidents, individually, may be totally damning: One of these alone might suggest that Trump is simply a bad speaker and perhaps racially insensitive (“politically incorrect,” as he would put it), but not overtly racist.

But when you put all these events together, a clear pattern emerges. At the very least, Trump has a history of playing into people’s racism to bolster himself — and that likely says something about him too.
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Trump launched his campaign in 2015 by calling Mexican immigrants “rapists” who are “bringing crime” and “bringing drugs” to the US. His campaign was largely built on building a wall to keep these immigrants out of the US.
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By Scorps at 01,Aug,19 08:01 other posts of Scorps 
1. So what! If I don't wanna rent MY fucking place to any particular person, I'll be gotdamned if you or anyone else can make me. If it just so happens to be a black individual, OMG RACIST!

2. You have ZERO proof that that was requested by him. I would venture to say that if they did such a thing, they were the fucking racist. I make a request for something and the Casino obliges, who's worse? Maybe they took it upon themselves to boot all the black folks. Prove that it wasn't that way...

3. Heresay and not admissible in any court! Only the court of public opinion. Perhaps he was a disgruntled employee and God knows the biggest insult you can throw around about someone is to scream they are a RACIST!

Is that all you got? Is that the best you can do?
By #578610 at 01,Aug,19 08:09
Really???? You going with that?? If you are then Hillary should be president. Nothing was ever proven about her except innuendos. Trump discriminates (so your sensibilities don't get bruised if I use racist) against whole sections of society. If it quacks like a duck and walks like a duck and fucks like a duck,,,,,,,,(like the comas?) it's a duck. Trump repeatedly fucks the American public. That makes him a Mother Fucker and, at least in 50% of the country,,,A RACIST.

By #578610 at 01,Aug,19 08:00
Scorpio69, we have all slipped and done something that's racially insensitive. Yes, I have called Gerome a Fxxxing
Nxxxer, Charlie a Latin Homo, and Mike a Mexican Ho. In the heat of an argument things are said that hurt. But, way before Gerome I had black friends that I broke bread with, cried with them when tragedy struck and stood up for my godchild at his christening. You see? I believe ALL people are that, people. They laugh, care, work, suffer, and can be just as good or just as bad as me. Maybe, that's where we differ.

By #578610 at 25,Jul,19 08:52
This is a repost. This president with his racist policies is breaking up families that have done no wrong except to come to our country without papers. He is supported by all these washouts from the under side of this country.

Until recently I lived in redneck heaven. If it wasn't for my blond hair, blue eyes and big tits I would have been dead for my liberal views. The few things all these yahoos that live around there believe in is that Donald Trump is God on a cleansing mission. They all think that getting a GED is having an education, and working at McDonald's is a career. They also love to blame all their problems on those "hordes" of undocumented immigrants or "foreigners". The funny thing is that most of those “foreigners” would look down on these yahoos as trailer trash. The men have never been to a dentist in their whole life. A smile from them is like a battle ground of falling and yellowed teeth with deep cavities. The Marlboro man, still packing three pounds of iron in his pants because it offsets his little pee pee.
And the women,wow,giving blow jobs at 12,getting pregnant at 14,marrying their “love of their life” and the baby’s father after the birth, The father, who’s best part ran down his mom’s leg, proudly buying everyone a quarter pounder with cheese. And taking mama and child home in his ten year old Ford F150 with gun racks.
Why am I bitter? My friend got deported a few months back. She was here seventeen years. Has two daughters and a WASP husband (that’s means White Anglo Saxon and Protestant for those that don’t know) whom she loves and took care off. Why is she gone? Her parents brought her here when she was eight, illegally. What happened to our humanity???
By Scorps at 25,Jul,19 17:50 other posts of Scorps 
There's a flaw in your story... Lying or overdramatic? If your friend supposedly married a "WASP" and she once was an illegal, the marriage made her a U.S. citizen. I personally think that portion of what you said, makes you full-a-shit, in typical lib fashion.

Oh, and one more time for the cheap seats...


For wanting to stop an invasion to our country. It's his #1 duty to THIS country to protect us from such things. How much more fucking clear does one have to be?

Lastly... Not sure who you're describing above, as I don't meet any of that description nor anyone I know. I will say this though... Sounds an awful lot like the Hotpussy_Wetnoodle monologues authored by Skittles. 😆🤣😂
By #578610 at 25,Jul,19 19:24
The problem with you is that you never check your facts. Marriage to a native born US American does not automatically give you citizenship, or permanent legal alien status. She still had to go through a process, including leaving the US for one year in order to qualify. That was a hardship
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If you call a horde of undocumented aliens wanting to come here to work to help their families an invation, then you are a chicken livered coward. These are poor folks with little choice. But, why does he want to remove long time members of society who work and pay taxes and have US born kids?
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And he is a RACIST AND A SEXUAL PREDATOR. The last one by his own words and the first one by his tweets.
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And lastly, Skittles monologues? How does that asshole fit this discussion?
Nevermind. You are part of that group with the Bitch Witch that when they don't like facts, they do personal attacks.
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Get it through your head. Trump is the worst thing that happened to this country. I'm nobody so who will listen to me. The thing is, the people that count says so.
By Petro635 at 26,Jul,19 08:05 other posts of Petro635 
Why do you blame Trump for the wrong choices other people made. They choose to enter the illegally. Why don't you want to pay the taxes for all this great stuff? You don't even pay enough in taxes to pay the current tax bill. It a joke

All the illegal people are not just hard honest working people is not true. Some drive drunk and then kill cops. Then run south back to Mexico
By #578610 at 26,Jul,19 09:52
Petro, before I answer you let me tell you that my family's history starts in Europe and they emigrated legally to this country over 5 generations ago. We are originally from Austria and England/Ireland. So, as you can see, we don't have a bucket to kick.
You said, "Why do you blame Trump for the wrong choices other people made"
I don't blame him for other peoples wrong choices. I blame him for his wrong choices. Illegal entry into this country is wrong, but, there are far better ways to contain the situation than splitting up families. Detention camps are not being kept in good humanitarian conditions. The SW is littered with closed military bases. There's room to put up air conditioned tent cities with proper sanitary facilities. Does it cost a lot? yes, but not much more than catch and release in their country and it would be easier to document and have hearings. His idea of building a wall is laughable.

You said, "Why don't you want to pay the taxes for all this great stuff?"
Who said I don't want to pay taxes for it? I'm willing to have my taxes go up a few hundred $ more in order to be humane, good neighborly, Christian, to these poor unfortunates.

You said, "You don't even pay enough in taxes to pay the current tax bill. It a joke"
I"m always disgusted at how little knowledge Americans have of the workings of their government. The tax bill, as you call it, is what the government will spend and that includes THE COST OF BORROWING MONEY in previous years to pay for whatever the government deemed was needed by the country. It's like getting a mortgage to buy a house at 6% interest. First, you don't pay your mortgage every year and the interest is always there. Your personal finances only cover THE MONTHLY PAYMENTS TO the mortgage lender. The last time we had a balanced budget was during the last 3 yrs of the Clinton administration. Since then we had a budget deficit. I pay about 14% of my yearly pay to the IRS. Those are the Federal taxes I pay every year, along with almost any other American that works and gets paid above the poverty rate. I know, it's a round number, but, it's very close to the mark.
The funny thing is that if an undocumented alien gets work, his paycheck is cut for these taxes and because he can't do his taxes at the end of the year (no papers) he pays more than the average taxpayer in his bracket.

Lastly, and I'm trying to be civil about this, I get my information by reading more than one newspaper and listening to various opinions on TV. I try to get this from both the liberals and the conservatives. I have had personal experiences from having lived through some hard times and I also know people who are affected, both good and bad, by different administrations. I've been a Republican for many years, a Democrat for many years, and now I vote my conscience. I don't get my information at the bar from my redneck friends that have the education of a 7th grader and doesn't know why tariffs cost the American public more money. MAGA is for fools. This country, defended by countless young men that gave their lives throughout the history of this great land, is the best in the world, even with Trump as president. The problem is that he if he stays around too long, we might loose a good amount of our collective soul.
By Petro635 at 26,Jul,19 22:31 other posts of Petro635 
You talk about a couple hundred more in taxes your willing the pay. Did you see the national debt clock ? To pay for all the other years of government over spending you would have to pay like $180,000. You can't afford that I bet, and you and all of us can't afford to keep spending more money by putting up a/c tents. If you want to cut spending pick something to pay for the illegals. What do you want to cut ?

You do know that lots of the illegals are just scamming our system.
By #578610 at 26,Jul,19 22:46
You still don't get it. No one is being asked to pay it all at once. It's called using the IRS VISA. Why do we have to cut other spending? How about not spending for the wall? Why not give up military parades? Why don't we bring ALL our military men back from Afganistán? Did you know a lot of native born Americans are scamming our system? Can you take a guess how many Americans cheat on their taxes? Come on. Don't you have anything more original than old gossip?
By Petro635 at 27,Jul,19 06:44 other posts of Petro635 
The $180,000 is just a number so you and everyone has something to compare it to. When do you think we should cut spending ? It's pretty amazing you have no regard for the next generation and you just keep spending money. Because you want something. Your putting kids and their kids in debt because you can't say no. That's not responsible

If you want to cut spending on the wall and anything. Let's do it !! Because I know it will shock people to cut off all the stuff we are paying for. You will go crazy if we stopped paying for everything you want. You want to make it seem like we don't care.

You want to fix the tax system ? Look into the you only pay for what you use. It close all the loop hole because their are none. It's just sales tax that everyone pays when you buy something new. Rich guys like Trump like to buy lots of new things. So everyone will pay. Illegals will pay also, everyone will pay.
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 08:48
Let me remind you we had a balanced budget during the Clinton administration. The Republican presidents jacked it up. You say,"Your putting kids and their kids in debt because you can't say no. That's not responsible "
First, I don't make the budget, but, I do expect for Social Security, Medicare, Food Stamps, Aid to Veterans, Emergency Income and Unemployment Insurance to continue. I also want Medicare for all to be established. I want good roads, a strong military, plenty of first responders and a good police system. Is there anything there you want to cut? I also want to see this country also have an open door policy to the world's poor and persecuted. It's the American way in me. My kids will find a way to get their, then, government to take care of it. Up to, and including default of the foreign debt. You think the next generation will be the first generation that had to shoulder the inherited debt? The Baby Boomers (like me) had to shoulder WWII and Korea debts, we also paid for Vietnam. The Interstate system was brought to us in the 1950's. Every generation has to do what it can at the time of the crisis. I'm not going to apologize for the needs of my present generation's need. If you don't like that then work to change it, but, in this country we go by majority rules.
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A report by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine found little to no effect on the wages and employment of native-born workers in the long-term by undocumented immigrants. Immigrants are also entrepreneurs who create jobs.

Given that the average immigrant-owned business hires 11 employees, these businesses would account for between 3.7 million and 5.2 million jobs in the formal economy.

Undocumented immigrants pay an average of $11.64 billion in state and local taxes a year. On average, an undocumented individual has about 8% of their income go to taxes. Moreover, all immigrants—regardless of status—will contribute approximately $80,000 more in taxes than government services used over their lifetime.
By Petro635 at 27,Jul,19 11:34 other posts of Petro635 
Your don't want to hear you can't afford all the thing want the government to pay for. That why we already are 22 Trillion in the whole. If you can afford it, then you should pay for it. The only reason you or the government goes in debt is because you don't have the money to pay for something. So from the stat you are admitting you can pay for it. I don't understand why you keep pointing bout how with Bill Clinton we had balanced budget. we never have been 22 Trillion I debt. Because you think you have all the answers. You tell use how you will solve the problem and pay back 22 trillon plus play for all the current stuff plus anything you want ? You can't do it, their is not enough money.

If we triple the current taxes you might be able to pay for the current stuff plus pay some of the 22 Trillion off. I'm not working 70 hours a week so 80% or some cazy number is paid in taxes because you want give madicad to all or open door to the world poor. People won't have any need to work. When that happen you have no taxes to collect. I will stop working 70 hour a week and get a minimum wake job and get the free medical that everyone gets. Their is no reason for me to keep working.
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 12:12
Aren’t you assuming a lot? I never said any of the things you accuse me off
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Perhaps this’ll clarify it for you. I don’t give a flying fuck about any of it. No matter what I say you will rebuff it. Ok, you fix it, smarty pants

By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 19:49 other posts of SrCums 
A lot of people say he is a racist. He breaks up families. Can you elaborate on this further. I've yet to see any racism whatsoever so since so many people feel his is a racist how can you determine this?.

Racism as defined is 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race/////////// So how does this make him qualify if African Americans, Hispanics and Jews are benefiting from his kept promises?

How can he break up families when they are free to return anytime they wish? They are free to leave at anytime, just not into USA territory. Nobody forced them to come here. If you wish to come to America do it the legal and right way, not over walls trying not to get caught..

It's ok to say what you want based on free speech. I just want to hear your elaboration with specific details.

Show me these details with undeniable proof and I'll bow down to your justified activism and switch my vote to democrat..
By #578610 at 26,Jul,19 20:14
I'm too tired to write it all out. This article explains why it's not debatable that he's a racist.

only registered users can see external links

You seem to imply that a mother can walk to the other room, grab her kid, and walk back out of the country. If you believe that you are a bigger fool than I thought. I, personally, would prefer you stay out of the Democrats party. We don't need any more bigots with their twisted agenda.
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If you are so blind to all that has happened to this country since Trump came on the scene, then I hope with all my heart it eventually touches your life. I hope the same compassion you have for these poor people is shown to you in your hour of need.
By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 20:42 other posts of SrCums 
C;mon HP.. This doesn't prove anything.. I'm asking you to show partiality between race. If someone breaks the law and trump said he should get the death penalty doesn't mean because he is black or any race that has to do with it..
Focus on RACE... Show that Trump has been bias not to what situations were but shows that he has hatred towards races in general.
The Casino of keeping Black dealers off the floor I'll have to investigate but that was 38 years ago and that rule could have been made by one of the pit bosses and I will get to the bottom of it honestly but the rest of your article is subjective and divisive.. This is how Al Sharpton made a million dollars..
Anyone with an open mind with 75 IQ can see this is not racism.

Another point that was made was Obama was illegally accused of being illegal.. The fact is that it is true. Obama was born in Kenya, his birth certificate was photoshoped, his wife was a man born in chicage that had a sex change operation to pose as the first lady. Their children are adopted.. Its not because michelle could not have children,, its because she was a man.. To elaborate further, his phony social security number was taken by some dude that lived in CT during the 1930s which is impossible because up to day nobody can have the same number, not from any generation..This is not racism, this is fact.

What breaks my heart with you is that you are spending time trying to promote activism on racism which is your right and we can elaborate on this.. What upsets me is while you are pointing fingers at Trump which are subjective,,,in the democrat party there are 4 people that have already admitted to being racist and you know who they are...If you wish I will go back in history as far back as the 18th century to show you who the racists are and who the constitutionalists are that support equal rights.. But for now my visions remain the same..
if you want to spot the racist just go to the LEFT in the democratic party. I do not believe there is one that doesn't have anything to do with justice but rather using race under their sleeves should they be out debated..

You just gave me some extraordinary visions on good wisdom a couple of days ago so you are not stupid.. Let's see you show some good wisdom here..
By #578610 at 26,Jul,19 21:03
No, baby. I don't need to validate my points of view to your satisfaction. You may believe Obama was born in Kenya. If you are right, who cares? He's an ex president. There's also a conflict with your opinion of the left. The left is liberal and the right is conservative. That's why most Jews are liberal and Democrats. No matter. Your vision of history is flawed. I'm starting to suspect you are pulling my leg.
By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 21:17 other posts of SrCums 
There are good Jews and bad ones which does give stereotypes just like all races. Some are good, some are bad,, Good christians and bad ones too. But the idea of Judaism and Israel is what it is according to law and historical documents.
No, I'm not pulling on your leg.. Most Jews are not liberal,, there are left wing jews like Orthodox which is a radical form that have politicized Torah.. Just like some Americans that have politicized our constitution. The other side of Judaism is a conservative Jew that follows moral code law to the T ... Now that's a fact.
Politics by itself under moral disciplines does not exist and has no basis for leadership other than abuse of power. With no politics the result is justice and moral law.. I choose choice B...
If this topic is very compassionate for you I suggest you read the passage on "Plato's Republic" This book by far has been the most inspiring passage of journalism I've ever read..
By #578610 at 26,Jul,19 22:18
What unifies various groups under the "Orthodox" umbrella is the central belief that Torah, including the Oral Law, was given directly from God to Moses at Mount Sinai and applies in all times and places. As a result, all Orthodox Jews are required to live in accordance with the Commandments and Jewish law.
That sounds a lot like conservatism. Why are we talking about Judaism and Israel? Is Israel the 51 state of the union? Will Simon Perez run for the presidency?
Plato believed the task of convincing people what the truth is can be a hard or impossible task. Then, again, he was an unwashed Greek.
By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 23:17 other posts of SrCums 
The orthodox are an extreme radical group that gives all power to the Male over the Female. You can't touch a woman dring her period because she is spraying hell onto the earth. Women cannot even pray with their husbands because they are lower than the dust.. This has nothing to do with the 10 commandments. Torah was written before Moses..

By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 23:20 other posts of SrCums 
Torah was actually part and including the book of Zohar. Have you heard of that? Its the science and map of reality which includes the physical and spiritual worlds of the 125 steps. This was all written before the Egyptians forced the Jews into bondage for 400 years until their deliverer Moses was to free them from Egypt of which to come home to their promised land of Israel promised by G-d himself.. Even the quran admits this fact..

By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 23:24 other posts of SrCums 
We are talking about Israel because you bring up racism as a motivating key point of donald trump of which I claim is not true of which he is the supporter of Israel and of Blacks and other minorities.. If you look at the facts, the minorities are less unemployed,, the stocks are over 27000 points,, women are better than ever... So how is he a racist when our economy is booming and everyone benefiting?
I have given you the opportunity to display to me how Donald Trump is a racist and criminal.. So far you have not shown this evidence.. I'm still waiting..

By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 23:43 other posts of SrCums 
Plato outlined the mathematical aspect of justice. The limit as wisdom approaches infinity will lead to virtue.. The same relationship of virtue as its limit approaches infinity you result in justice. Another name for justice is known as piety, that which is perfect and eternal.. G-d..
Something we cannot achieve in the physical world yet must thrive and desire to reach, which is the philosophy of many religions..
By Scorps at 27,Jul,19 04:38 other posts of Scorps 
I think Job would even be envious of your patience... I applaud you! It appears wisdom has eluded her and all hope is lost. I suspect she was at the forefront of the 60's and that mind has been fried. At her age she should know better, that's for certain. Good luck!
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 07:34
So the pot called the kettle. Scorpio, you are starting to sound like Skittles. If you two have positive arguments to my position, do so. But, give me examples. Don't bring ancient religious practises.
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:38 other posts of SrCums 
Stop labeling people.. If someone doesn't agree with you stop attacking them like this.. You be the better person.

By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 07:41
And at your age, Scorpio69, someone should cut off your dick. Getting your private slave prego 6 times shows how inconsiderate you are. You do not know how or why women think the way they think. You are what in the 80's we would call a male chouvinist pig
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:52 other posts of SrCums 
You call people all kinds of names when they do not agree with you.. THIS is bigotry.. Also socialism.. You want socialism? Venezuela is right up that alley.. This country here is based on constitution and democracy.. I'd like to see your maturity level increase a little here..

By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 07:29
Witch means that, like most philosophy, it's a great point of argument, but, in the real world where we have to pay for potatoes, it's useless. Trump praised members of a racist group in the Carolinas. He calls women derogatory names. And he protects murdering princes of Saudi Arabia. Obviously, he is not racist.
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By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:36 other posts of SrCums 
Obama did one good thing as president.. With his dental plan he promised you could keep your teeth..
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 09:38
I don't know how to answer that???

By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:44 other posts of SrCums 
Obama is on the hot block right now due to violating the Trump campaign with unmasking and illegal surveillance. William Barr is already putting investigations into this. People involved were Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Peter Stzruk, Brennan, and james comey..
Racism is a very big accusation without presenting the facts that prove this to be a concern.. Just because you do not agree with someones opinion does not show they are racist.. If you just blurt out Racist,, this is a slander thing if you have no substantiation. Some people can sue for this... Obama is not in trouble because he is black.. He is in trouble for breaking the law..
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 09:53
But, what does Obama have to do with Trump other than the fact Trump is jealous of Obama? And public figures are fair game to be accused of being racists or something else. They have to prove malice. I'm jjust stating the opinion of many, many, very important people in this country along with 50% of the voters and,,,oh, yes,,,,ME!!!!
I noticed Obama is really sweating Barr's efforts.HAHAHA, it's laughable, lollipop.
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 13:21 other posts of SrCums 
I just put pissing dogs, poisen, granny panties and spam cans on bellas page..
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 14:51
Now,see? You are starting to act like Skittles. I don't like that. Go and remove those by sending kisses. I don't like the lady but her page is not a battlefield.

By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 08:51
Undocumented immigrants pay an average of $11.64 billion in state and local taxes a year. On average, an undocumented individual has about 8% of their income go to taxes. Moreover, all immigrants—regardless of status—will contribute approximately $80,000 more in taxes than government services used over their lifetime.
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:58 other posts of SrCums 
Here,, this usually calms you down.. This is my hairy fury donkey.. You like that don't you..
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 10:53
It's cute but, I run with stallions baby

By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:50 other posts of SrCums 
Exactly a mother can take her child and walk right back out of the country even though they are already breaking the law by coming into this country by illegal trespassing.
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 09:55
Wrong, baby. If the Child is in Homestead, Florida and she's in New Mexico, how is she going to get there? Will they give her a hall pass like in high school??? This is laughable too.
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 09:59 other posts of SrCums 
a proposal states they will pay for trip to return.

By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 10:01 other posts of SrCums 
If you don't stop this nonsense I am not going to show you my lollipop anymore..
By #578610 at 27,Jul,19 10:31
HotPussy_WetNoodle's friends list total number of friends: 174
I have over 200 tributes in my PC
If you think i'm going to give up my views for a cock, baby, you are just as wrong as your political views.
By SrCums at 27,Jul,19 13:20 other posts of SrCums 
That's not what you said last night baby...

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You will find that SrCums , aka Godzillas, aka arir39 will do and say what he pleases until he is banned, ONCE AGAIN, by admin. Frankly, I'm surprised that he didn't post something about Jews or post a picture just to prove that he doesn't have to follow any guidelines.

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WOW, SrCUMS got his knickers in a knot. It seems he doesn't like his AKA's posted in public. He gave me an earful in private message. Supposedly "I defied him". This is the week of the jerks.
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By Gntlmn at 31,Mar,19 22:15 other posts of Gntlmn 
It re-enforces Gaston Glock's quote, "Americans are stupid".
By #578610 at 16,Jun,19 09:40
Austrians are not exactly the brightest bulb in the bunch either. They were responsible for the start of WWI and contributed to the support of Hitler in WWII. Great people
By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 09:16 other posts of SrCums 
I heard because of the assassination of Franz Ferdinand..Oh well.. I can see you are making friends here,, now you are saying Austrians are stupid ....I have yet to read anything about you where you take responsibility for your mistakes yet it is everyone elses fault.

I know you are smarter than this. The key for us to be successful is unity

Instead of desiring to enhance your egoism which all democrats do. try desiring to achieve altruism? democrats never take blame or responsibility. They never try coming up with solution. If they get elected they already said our taxes will be unmanageable but then will blame the rich.

.Worry about what your responsibility is. Not asking you to be perfect but you can try just to be the best you can be..As long as you pass on blame you will never make it to the next level of critical reasoning.
By #578610 at 29,Jun,19 10:35
I make my shares of mistakes, but, the posting by Gntlmn was derogatory to Americans.The quote by Glock was something any American should find offensive and a response in kind deserved. Please show me where I passed undeserved blame to anyone for anything. Please don't quote the One Eyed Bitch Witch. Show me facts. My critical reasoning is not for you to judge as I haven't made any conclusions regarding you or about you. In any event, my reasoning is subjective to my experiences and not yours. You like Republicans. So do many people in this country. I like Democrats. So do many in this country. If they ever work together it will be good. The Republicans have controled congress for many yrs. Why didn't they solved all our country's ills?
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One more thing. Telling me what’s wrong with half the country (Democrats) won’t solve the ills of the country. Why not look at your fellow Republicans and figure out why they prefer gridlock to progress. And I won’t even mention the idiot that lives in the White House and the leader of the Republican party
By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 13:03 other posts of SrCums 
I have nobody,,, I am all alone. Nobody loves me.. That's ok though,, I still have my camera..

There are Republicans I hate...Democrats I used to love but they aren't alive since they were murdered by their own party.. What difference does it make? It's either they are good or bad.. Racism is when you label... Just like you label of me being a judge. I only go by what I see and have intuitions about. YOu place labels then you draw your own conclusions by judging others. To me it doesn't matter.

By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 13:16 other posts of SrCums 
only registered users can see external links Now your crosses are burning fast... What does this mean to you..

By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 13:48 other posts of SrCums 
I still don't know what he did that is evil to cause people to hat e him. All I hear is the name calling... There is nothing wrong with the country's ills. The solution is here. National Sovereignty, infrastructure, core-education, GDP is 3.2. stock market is surging. Looks to me the slope of progress is positive.
The "ILLS" of the country only has long legs because the Fake News Industrial Complex is obsessed What I see is that the extreme left is loosing its grip and is desperate to find a solution to get rid of this guy once and for all ,,, but it is not working. They have no solution.
By #578610 at 29,Jun,19 18:16
did you hear about the husband that bought his wife a mink coat, took her to expensive dinners at 5 star restaurants and murdered her? that is "he"
By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 18:29 other posts of SrCums 
He murdered his wife? What planet did you get this info from?
Like I said it doesn't matter. America is the strongest nation on earth now. If he was Jack the Ripper oh well..
C'mon, you are better than this and you know better..

BEsides.. Do you know how many cocks Bill Clinton sucked off in the oval office while Hillary hid in the closet while licking on Pocahontas's clit?

Russia did spy on us.. Want to know what they found?? Vladimere Putin caught Bill and Monika having phone sex in the oval office while Hillary was taking a back door dildo from Huma... That's the G-d's honest truth..

And if you still don't believe me how did this article come out? It's all over the place. only registered users can see external links
By #578610 at 02,Jul,19 09:14
It’s a well know fact that he did not exist before 2014. The answer is in Roswell
By SrCums at 02,Jul,19 16:45 other posts of SrCums 
Roswell NM,, as in outer space? Are you saying that Hillary is an alien from another planet?
By #578610 at 03,Jul,19 08:02
Yes, she was born in the USA
By SrCums at 03,Jul,19 10:32 other posts of SrCums 
Where's the birth certificate.
Not to mention some of the fakes on here did a much better job photoshopping 15 inch cocks than Obama did his birth certificate.
By #578610 at 03,Jul,19 11:42
Well, you can’t make her a virgin or him not be an ex president. People that live in the past are past it
By SrCums at 03,Jul,19 17:50 other posts of SrCums 
So it's ok to do bad things just as long as you can get past it later?
By #578610 at 03,Jul,19 19:11
I did not say that. Nor did I say Hillary and Clint did either. The current president is a different story. He lied,he cheated, he colluded, he invited wrong doing. And, he is current. If the Justice Department is willing to not prosecute, who are we to try to do so?
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By SrCums at 03,Jul,19 21:38 other posts of SrCums 
Trump only lied and cheated with your imagination..He's done nothing wrong and I stand by it. Not that I don't like Bill since he is smart on economics but he lied and cheated and Hillary was the worst infidel of the 2. She had lesbian parties in the white house while stealing everything after she left and also and watched Bill have sex in the oval office which is supposed to be a room for the people of the united states.
Congress is the worst I have ever seen at 4% approval rating they are making a mockery out of this great country. Yet, even their own constituents are shaking their heads. They too want to ask people if they are USA citizens but their congress people are going against the peoples wishes.
By #578610 at 04,Jul,19 07:49
All these gossips have been quoted by the opposition since old Clint was pres. Ok, prove it. And, may I remind you that he was pres. 20 yrs ago?

By SrCums at 03,Jul,19 21:44 other posts of SrCums 
Mueller said there was no Russian collusion with trump so why do you continue? Are you smarter than Mueller and know more? Mueller would do anything to get him out of office but no evidence. The person that came across this lie was Christopher steel who is British spy.... There was no collusion therefore no obstruction.. Why can't you finally accept the facts that he did nothing wrong?
By #578610 at 04,Jul,19 07:45
“Collusion” has no legal definition. But if the term means working behind the scenes with Russian actors to obtain hacked information damaging to Mrs. Clinton, then this section of the report describes just that — collusion that took place at Mr. Trump’s request. It just wasn’t successful.

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By SrCums at 04,Jul,19 12:15 other posts of SrCums 
He didn't do anything wrong HP... Muller was hired as a special prosecuter to put people in jail and he couldn't do it. Collusion is not against the law and yet every president since the coup of 1963 has colluded with russia, vatican, ukraine, china, mexico and all the pissing countries that ripped us off,,, yet if you are republican they say you are breaking the law. This is bullshit..
Muller was a political movement to divert things away from the truth, meaning Hillary colluded with Russia and Ukraine. He has businesses on the side that colludes with the hollywood elite as well as the entire democratic party to promote child sex trafficking, ****philia, importation of illegal drugs, and fucking off the american tax payer..
How they hell can you even protect these people? They are dangerous and they will fuck you over while stealing your soul 100 times over if it means they have to cum then just spit on you..
What are you getting out of protecting these apostates from hell anyway?
By #578610 at 04,Jul,19 12:25
Truth, fairness and a better life. I don’t know how old you are but I voted for the first time for Nixon. I was a Republican then. Soon I found out every time a Republican got elected, my buying power went substantially down. My pay is substantially more than 1966 and i can’t afford what I could then. On top of that, my country went from shit to diarrea when Bush II bankrupted the country. Yeah! Go Republican. Go Trump. Make America great again. Fuck us all. Buy us fried chicken
By SrCums at 04,Jul,19 12:46 other posts of SrCums 
The last "Republican" to be a TRUE Republican was Abraham Lincoln. I don't give a shit what party since it was watered down to be the same establishment of anti-democracy.
Before you pass judgments on policy learn the constitution. You have an issue? Then take it up with your congressman.. That's how it works..
Educate yourself more,,Stop arguing with 7th grade mentality ... Bush's(both of them) are ****phia Nazi anti-jew and black racists. Boy did i put down a REPUBLICAN? No since they are not republicans.. its bullshit.. Obama was neither a dem or republican since he was hired by globalism. An illegitimate president from no birth certificate documentation. He's a fucking liar and so is his boyfriend Michael..I don't protect people because of their political party. Since you segregate in that way many people do consider this racism just from what party you belong to..
By #578610 at 05,Jul,19 11:37
I bet I know the Constitution better than you. You, and others like you, always fall back on your interpretation of the Constitution. You believe others are ignorant of the meaning. You also give weird meanings to every day definitions of words. You still have not proven your point of view except with half baked gossip.
By SrCums at 05,Jul,19 12:21 other posts of SrCums 
Show me how much more you know. How much non-political spin of bullshit... Show me that the interpretations of the 1st, 2nd and 4th amendments and how they relate to our nation and what message it gives to us.. Since you know so much more of america than I do then give these 3 amendments of the constitution full meaning and what it means to Americans.. Show me how these amendments protect our people and what they truly mean? How does this relate to national sovereignty?..What is National Sovereignty to you?.
What does the United States of America mean to you?
By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 08:48
1st amendment, this country has freedom of religion, press and no fear from congress to change that.
2nd amendment, the Congress will create a militia and the citizens have the right to bear arms.
The fourth amendment prohibit unlawful serch and seizures without probable cause. This is a somewhat simplistic explanation of these rights but, it's clear enough.
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By SrCums at 07,Jul,19 11:19 other posts of SrCums 
Very good,, you looked up the definition on internet of questions. But that is not answering "what does the USA mean to you"?
By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 11:47
No sir. I did not. If I had I would have copied and pasted. Anyone who finished high school 45 yrs or more ago should be able to answer your questions. Today's high schoolers would be ignorant of the answers
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The USA is my country. Right or wrong, it's the best country in the world with the most caring people in the world even though many of our citizens are bigots.
By SrCums at 07,Jul,19 11:58 other posts of SrCums 
The problem with this is just the logical definition, but the answer requires more than logic. What does america mean to you? Not by its definition

By SrCums at 07,Jul,19 12:01 other posts of SrCums 
A hint would be its allegiance..For which it stands, one nation under G-d with liberty and justice for all.. What does this mean?
Not just illegal immigrants while middle class breaks its back to put a loaf of bread on the table while drug dealers and ms13 get free everything.

By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 10:21
You seem to think that Republican or Democrat describes a set rule of governance for a political party. These names are a quick description of the current politicians. What Lincoln stood for, while very honorably, has nothing to do with present day position of these parties. Conservative, liberal, pro-life, pro-choose, socialist, these are the true descriptions. What’s more, if you live in the past with Clinton, Hilary, Obama, Bush, Regan, then you are not helping the betterment of this country today. Only present day political entities can fix the problems of today.
By SrCums at 07,Jul,19 11:31 other posts of SrCums 
The problems of today are its political struggles.
Here, let me make this easy for you.
The constitution is our law. There is no politics, no bullshit, only laws that derive from platonic philosophy that describes the best method to obtain utopia.
The only way this will work is with ideas to form a more perfect union, not what politicians tell us to do, who to worship or who to hate. Politics is who can promote the best lie in order to stir up followers but it has nothing to do with the right thing.
USA to me is unity, different in cultures but forgetting about laws that were imposed on its people but to find a place where everyone has a saw of putting into law.
The way it works is this. You have an idea or suggesiton, you make a petition, send the petition to congressman,, Afterall you are his constituent base so he has to provide you a response or else he will lose that base. He sends the idea up to the floor to lay his case,, If they motion a vote and majority rules then it is debated with the senate, if the senate approves then it is sealed by the president.
Here, the democrats not only want to take your say away from you but they want to tell you what to do. They want to take the power away from the people. This will only lead to am empire that will eventually destroy itself. All empires throughout history have fallen.
The only problems that exist today are the democrats forcing open borders destroying our national sovereignty , they want to create a welfare system milking the taxpayer by creating a sanctuary country.. with that said, you can see Europe destroying itself.
i am helping by giving examples because it is tools for learning. Trumps approval ratings are higher than ever at this point. I call this america because more and more followers are starting to believe in him since he remains well within constitutional values.. I do too..
Socialism has never survived through the years yet you support it by dissolving guns.. YOu want socialism?---move to Iran. This place is more suited for you.
By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 15:42
I'm not arguing against your position. You, believe the Constitution is the law of the land, inflexible, for ever and ever. Not true. Our Constitution is a starting point and a guide. This is so our form of government can adapt to the changes of this crazy world. As long as we follow it's principles, we can interpret this wonderful documents to fit our modern world.
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By #578610 at 08,Jul,19 09:13
Just like a man. Wants to win an argument with sex. Ok, I bow to your superior argument, Chupete.
By SrCums at 08,Jul,19 13:35 other posts of SrCums 
The constitution is NOT something to just put on the wall. It is an official document that protects the abuse of power over its people.
Petitioning representatives is our responsibility. Whether the elected congressman does his job or not is his responsibility. If he is smart and the number of signatures is high in his voting base he'd better do his job or its another one bites the dust.

By SrCums at 08,Jul,19 13:35 other posts of SrCums 
You couldn't resist me.
By #578610 at 08,Jul,19 18:31
It's the name and it's promise.
BTW. Almost every major federal law is SOCIALISTIC. Social Security, medicare, 40 hr weeks, minimum age, the establishment of the IRS, etc. Any law that is passed for the betterment of the public is socialistic. Why are people so afraid of that? Also, The Democrats did not invite hundredth of illegals to seek refuge in our country. We should stop saying so
By SrCums at 08,Jul,19 20:46 other posts of SrCums 
Illegals are their bread and butter..

By SrCums at 08,Jul,19 21:37 other posts of SrCums 
You have to understand that the LEFT is NOT internal with our country. It is a globalist market and all LEFT WING politicians from each country are the true LEFT. The LEFT we have here is just a sub-division.
By #578610 at 09,Jul,19 06:23
That's like saying the right is controlled by a Nazi splinter group in Bolivia
By SrCums at 09,Jul,19 07:42 other posts of SrCums 
Nazi's were funded by the left,,, Including Bush's father during the 1930s Some Republican today are really LEFT, although pretend to be on the right. or even in the middle.. An example is Marco Rubio.
The entire structure is run in Europe with major clients being China, North Korea, Russia, the middle east. Used to be Mexico also but Trump won that trade war and is working on china where he is winning that one..He is also out of Paris accord wich was a mile stone, the iran deal and NAFTA.
By #578610 at 09,Jul,19 12:00
Labels do not define individuals. The Nazis were as far right as you can get. They were fascists.
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By SrCums at 09,Jul,19 12:41 other posts of SrCums 
completely invalid point.. Roosevelt was Left and worked with Nazi's so industrialists in america could profit from the nazi movement.. Churchill praised Hitler in 1938 as well as time magazine making Hither man of the year. Roosevelt hated Jews so much he refused entry of refugees into america by turning them back to the gas chambers in Poland..The KKK had the same plans for blacks and jews as the nazi movement..KKK was created by the left,, not the right..

By SrCums at 26,Jul,19 21:23 other posts of SrCums 
Another thing I suggest you try and practice on is not to judge by using stereotypes... Racism is not as broad as you think,, its just politicized more than it actually exists.

By Gntlmn at 07,Jul,19 00:01 other posts of Gntlmn 
Well...stupid is as stupid does... Americanlook what got elected president
By bjuk at 07,Jul,19 13:48 other posts of bjuk 
By SrCums at 09,Jul,19 07:57 other posts of SrCums 
When you are smart its ok to think stupid people are stupid,, But what about the stupid ones that think smart people are stupid?.. Because they are stupid that's why..

By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 15:47
Stupid is making a mistake and repeating it

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Good news to me.But,we have to keep in mind poll numbers can be skewed in either direction depending on the goals of the poll taker.
By Scorps at 25,Jul,19 17:38 other posts of Scorps 
Atta boy phart ! Rub it in...
By phart at 25,Jul,19 21:38 other posts of phart 
It is not really meant to rub it in.It was meant to show that the old saying "it is the economy stupid" is true.The people tend to stand behind a leader when the economy is better. And right now things are better and would and could get better if the dems would just stop throwing out things to stumble over.

By phart at 25,Jul,19 21:20 other posts of phart 
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This is a fake pill and fake website by the way.Saddly.As much as I need some brain boosting!

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By kebmo at 06,Jul,19 09:38 other posts of kebmo 
only registered users can see external links The question of a person’s citizenship has been in the Canadian census since 1901.
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Link says not found?
By kebmo at 06,Jul,19 20:40 other posts of kebmo 
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By phart at 07,Jul,19 11:26 other posts of phart 
Well,I can't see a problem with the question myself.
I don't see that it has anything to do with how much help the illegals get. They get it everywhere here in the US,not just democrat controled areas.

By #578610 at 07,Jul,19 10:29
I, personally, don’t believe the whole electorate is going to be traumatized by this. This country has a habit of carrying political correctness to the Nth degree. I’m aware of the bigoted ways of our president but, in this case, I believe it’s much to do about nothing

By leopoldij at 08,Jun,19 17:30 other posts of leopoldij 
Isn't this really totally embarrassing?
If I were in his place I'd have to resign out if sheer embarrassment. To feel that everyone in the world is laughing at your ignorance is something that would be intolerable.

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By phart at 08,Jun,19 21:02 other posts of phart 
Sometimes a fellow just screws up and says something he may not should have. Let people laugh and get it out of their system.No real harm done.
By leopoldij at 09,Jun,19 15:25 other posts of leopoldij 
He's the president of the US!
He's not "a fellow".
I'm in Italy at the moment.
All schoolchildren are laughing at him.

By dgraff at 08,Jun,19 21:11 other posts of dgraff 
You Leo have enough to worry about with that forum thread about you shooting your wad in people's food and drinks with out there knowledge you sicko fuck
By leopoldij at 09,Jun,19 15:24 other posts of leopoldij 
Since you can't speak English, go to the other side of the wall.
By phart at 09,Jun,19 16:00 other posts of phart 
Disregarding the subject matter for a moment and let's just look at the spelling.
Is it not true you were able to read and understand what was typed?Even if the wrong Their was used?
There are more serious matters in the real world to worry about than the spelling of a few words. Especialy on a website full of dick and puss's.As for Trump not being a "fellow", he is a citizen of the US, and is male.If not,then is Stormy Daniels a bisexual?
By leopoldij at 09,Jun,19 16:30 other posts of leopoldij 
How should I know. It's Trump who fucked her, not me.
By dgraff at 09,Jun,19 17:41 other posts of dgraff 
I bet you wanted to you sicko

By #578610 at 15,Jun,19 08:17
This is a little outside of the conversation, but, I feel this president has a lot to do with the violence gripping this country.

One more time. Last night a man took a gun out in a Costco store in Southern California and killed another man. That, in itself, is horrible. What's worse is that, once again, a gun THAT DOESN'T KILL, was used to KILL another man. You can say whatever you want, but, no gun no kill. I know. All you gun owners are going to get your underwear stuck in your crack and come after me. Some will argue logically, some (like Skittles, Freddy, JustWill, Country Cunt) will be as abusive as they can be, assuming their brain can get out of first gear.
Nothing will change my mind. If guns are banned, there would be a lot less deaths, and I'm talking A LOT LESS deaths. Please don't come back with those lame sayings: If you outlaw guns only outlaws would have guns (pass a law, anyone caught with a gun gets an automatic 25 yrs without parole). Guns don't kill, people kill. Yes, but, without guns they would have to use another weapon to kill with. ( yes, but, how many people will carry a Ka-Bar Marine knife ? Most people kill in a domestic dispute with a family member or in an altercation like a traffic situation. No guns would dampen that situation.) And that real big one. YOU NEED IT FOR PROTECTION. (How many people have an experience where their personal safety is so compromised that they need a gun to get out of the situation? How many people can say, "I killed the sucker. He was coming for me." How many men (because most women think men are idiots for making a stance) say, "If I get in a situation like that, I will stand up to the perpetrator(s), just like Gary Cooper in "High Noon"?.
By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 13:08 other posts of SrCums 
So its ok for them to shoot you but not for you to defend yourself... I get it... Yes,, we need to do this..
I know criminals will say "NO WE WILL ONLY USE GUN IF IT IS LEGAL" They say this because it is against the law.. So if they want to do something illegal they will have to use something else to kill.. Is that what you are saying?

I totally agree with you 100%
By #578610 at 29,Jun,19 07:18
What do you think? You want to be flippant, go ahead. In the meantime, there were 40,000 deaths from firearms last year (this was mentioned during the Democrat's debate). I know the guns tried to refuse. People kill, etc,etc. Trash talk.
By SrCums at 29,Jun,19 09:13 other posts of SrCums 
What do you mean? I said I agreed with you didn't I?.. Sheesh
So we need to tell these criminals that kill people that break the law not to use a gun because it is not legal.. I'm sure they will comply don't you think?

By SrCums at 03,Jul,19 10:27 other posts of SrCums 

I switched my portion with him just in time

By phart at 25,Mar,19 17:06 other posts of phart 
“Isn’t it a shame that someone can write an article or book, totally make up stories and form a picture of a person that is literally the exact opposite of the fact, and get away with it without retribution or cost. Don’t know why Washington politicians don’t change libel laws?” Trump wrote on Twitter in September.

And btw. I realize that there are a few scraps for the Dems to try to make mountains out of,but it is nice to know the witch hunt is over and perhaps, just perhaps,all that effort can be applied towards some good in the world.
By thebeewolf at 30,Mar,19 13:18 other posts of thebeewolf 
I'm all for moving on. But first I still have a lot of questions. Why is he so buddy-buddy with Putin? Why have so many of his campaign/cabinet officials met with Russians? Why have they ALL lied about it? Why did Jr. not call the FBI when Russians offered to help the campaign? Why was Jared trying to set up a secret backchannel of communication with Russians without the state department knowing about it? Why did campaign chairman give internal polling data to a guy with ties to Russian intelligence? Why did Trump continue to deny Russia's involvement in the election even after the intelligence services told him they were?

Perhaps it is the case that nothing here rises to the level of criminal conspiracy provable beyond a reasonable doubt. But I really, really need some answers before I can move on. Maybe the Special Counsel report has those answers. Let's see it.
By kebmo at 31,Mar,19 00:52 other posts of kebmo 
Being a scumbag is not illegal but a lot of Trump's buddies are now in jail because the things that they did are illegal.
By phart at 31,Mar,19 08:50 other posts of phart 
In my 50 + years I have often heard it said to keep your freinds close and your enemys closer.Is it not better to keep some form of communication and relationship with the biggest communist country on earth than to sit back and be all pissy towards them? And so what if Trump wanted to build something in Russia? Hell he is into realestate,building and selling things is what you do.

If I were the Russians I would want as much info as I could get on the potential new leader of the US. For security reasons and whatever else. I see little fault with it. We have not went to war with them,and we aint sold them no more stuff to make nukes with so things are not as bad as they could be.
But to edit,I am not saying we should share our defense methods or anything of that sort.The russians can dig for that like they have for many years and struggle on their own.

And 1 other thing,who is to say if they were given info that it was the truth? Hell we as Americans can't get the truth,why would it be so easy to beleive the Russians can get it?
I am just saying the best I can,it is best we leave the russians thinking they know something,and they are our freinds,than to sit back and make enemys of them in a worse way than before.The cold war is over,as is the economy we enjoyed during those years of good defense equipment contracts and jobs and so forth,but the bomb raid drills are not being done in schools right now.Let's keep it that way
By kebmo at 31,Mar,19 10:15 other posts of kebmo 
If Trump & Co. did the things that they did for the good of the USA that's one thing. If they did it for the good of Trump & Co. that's quite another. One of the many things that have been proven in court though is that what they did was illegal and now a bunch of them are in jail.
By phart at 31,Mar,19 21:20 other posts of phart 
changing subject slightly,do you feel like the information about AOC that lady from new york should be looked in to as well? Million dollars got sent to her boyfriend of campaign funds and other stuff like the kitchen she cooks in is not hers online and so on.Not living in her district. All these things can be confirmed or denied and proven in a matter of a couple days. Crime is crime is it not?
By kebmo at 31,Mar,19 22:48 other posts of kebmo 
That was an excellent example of whataboutism Phart. You can do better.
By phart at 08,Jun,19 21:00 other posts of phart 
I might could,but still,even though I am VERY slow at finding your response,it is still a interesting question I ask. And strangly,I have little of AOC the past month or so.
By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 18:35 other posts of SrCums 
Yes it is a crime

By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 13:32 other posts of SrCums 
My brain is hurting
By phart at 28,Jun,19 15:49 other posts of phart 
From what sir?

I can't help but notice when i put a link up to a news story of a illegal burning 2 children and ording his 16 year old girlfreind to run down their mother with the car and chunk her in the river,it has not got a response.

For whatever reason, when facts are shown to folks that hate Trump,they don't respond.
But if you found out for a fact a negitive peice of info about him, they would discuss it alot.
By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 18:22 other posts of SrCums 
Where does it say I hat e or love trump?

By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 18:28 other posts of SrCums 
I know there is a lot of negative press on this one terrible person.. He's the worst president in history. I know CNN and MSNBC just shit on him all day and night from 11/2016.. So let's summarize up to this point.. What negative headline about Trump is a proven fact? How many headlines are fake news and which ones does he have to hide under his bed since they caught him with the goods?
I don't know the donald.. Personally I don't care.. All I care about is that America is winning trade wars for the first time since 1945.. Our Stock Markets are at almost 27K... If Trump said PUSSY 15 years ago I don't care.. I'd rather say cunt anyway... That being said, with all these trade wars we are winning we have surplus to improve education, economic opportunity, infra structure and better chances on achieving unity as a nation and as a race...
So you don't like personal trump.. OK... If you love him,, great.. Either way I get your point. Its america I love,, I love our constitution also. Instead of hearing how much you hate let's see something you love more than hate.. I want to know the real you...
By phart at 28,Jun,19 20:57 other posts of phart 
I know you didn't say rather you loved or hated,I just ask why your brain was hurting.I think it is hurting for similar reasons as mine and many others.
I knew Donald was not a perfect person,but he was the best choice for America at the time and he is Trying his dead level best to fulfill his promises,unlike so many of both parties before him.

America is already a better place to live that it was 4 or 5 years ago.Folks are getting jobs and money is flowing again.
Some wonder what his is motivation is.Sometimes I wonder why any sane man would want the job. But if America fails,he fails. IF America succeeds,so does he and everyone else.
By SrCums at 28,Jun,19 21:50 other posts of SrCums 
Excellent. With a strong hold on national sovereignty we can live in unity as a nation. This guy loves his country and he knows how to negotiate and make deals.. He's the best I've ever seen and he reaches out to people that want to be proud of our country again. All we want is education for our children and have at least half a chance to succeed as before all this crap. Sadly a lot of americans feel their government is responsible to take care of them. I believe for mankind to succeed it must unify as one nation. No politics, no bullshit,, just moral standards of living.

By dgraff at 08,Jun,19 21:16 other posts of dgraff 
You better hope the United States keeps Russia as our alli after all it says in the bible in the end the bear and the eagle will fight the dragon

By phart at 28,Jun,19 12:21 other posts of phart 
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Like Trump or not,rather the liberals fact check everything Trump says and come up with a little dirt,here is a story right out in the open of exactly what Trump wants to prevent.
No one seems to be disturbed by the fact he was screwing a 16 year old girl,or it could be that the burning of 2 dead childern and ordering the 16 year old to run over their mother and chunk her in the river is horror enough?

By phart at 22,Jun,19 21:21 other posts of phart 
There are so many people here in the US that are against a border wall.
But I saw something yesterday that just can not go untold.
About 20 miles from me is a single wide trailer with 3 additions built on to it on what was a country road until the damn subdivided neighborhoods came in and it is now all but a 2 lane interstate.
Anyhow, the place went up for sale.It was in real disrepair.
Mexicans bought it, brought in 4 camper trailers and set up house keeping.
The town that annexed them was not happy. So they told them to clean up. What are they doing? They are building adamn BIG wall! All the way around the place.You can't see shit!Nor could you get in or out with out going thru the gate!
So is it not strange that the MEXICANS would build a wall around their own shit but complain when Trump wants to build a wall around all of OURS?
By kebmo at 22,Jun,19 22:28 other posts of kebmo 
Aren't they within their rights to build a fence on their private property? Just because they're of Mexican descent doesn't mean that they're not American.
Are you assuming that you know their personal opinion regarding the border wall or have you spoken to them and heard it from them?
By dgraff at 22,Jun,19 23:58 other posts of dgraff 
I wanted to put up a privacy wall all around my property but the town ship made it impossible with there permits and rules and regulations I live from a time when if a town ship official showed up at your place telling you what you can and can't do on your own property got run off at the end of a shot gun barrel

By phart at 23,Jun,19 07:32 other posts of phart 
Yea,they have the right to.I just find the whole thing very ironic

By #578610 at 31,Mar,19 13:03
Even if the Mueller report doesn't find anything on Trump, he is still a miserable human being who should not be President. Why people get so worked up about him is a mystery to me. He's a lying loud mouth with the morals of a cat in heat. I hope he doesn't win a second term.
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By kebmo at 21,Mar,19 02:51 other posts of kebmo 
A turkey was chatting with a bull. "I would love to be able to get to the top of that tree," sighed the turkey, "but I haven't got the energy.
"Well, why don't you nibble on some of my droppings?" replied the bull.
"They're packed with nutrients."
The turkey pecked at a lump of dung and found that it actually gave him enough strength to reach the first branch of the tree.
The next day, after eating some more dung, he reached the second branch. Finally after a fortnight, there he was proudly perched at the top of the tree. Soon he was promptly spotted by a farmer, who shot the turkey out of the tree.
Moral of the Story: Bullshit might get you to the top, but it won't keep you there.

By #578610 at 12,Feb,19 09:26
BBC Cameraman Shoved and Abused at Trump rally in El Paso

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My opinion
By phart at 12,Feb,19 12:15 other posts of phart 
Oh my, now the Brits are hollering about being pushed.Where are the men in this world? Ok,so someone pushed you, knock the hell out of him and just continue on with your work.Don't be a pussy and start crying about being violently attacked like a 3 rd grader.
By #578610 at 12,Feb,19 13:09
That is not the way to respond. If everyone did that we would all be fighting each other. No, Sir. You are not less of a man because you react in a lawful way.
My opinion

By kebmo at 12,Feb,19 13:39 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, how do you think the people at a Trump rally would react if a reporter was knocking the hell of one of their own red hatters? I think they would beat him to death, literally beat him to death while security did little or nothing to help the journalist.
It is the responsibility of Trump's team to take care of security and that includes the security of the reporters who he hates so much. The media platform obviously requires more security.
By phart at 12,Feb,19 19:13 other posts of phart 
I will say it was not a good idea to have bothered the journalist to start with.Bad judgement on that guys part.
Don't buy his rag paper or not watch his program,is about the only legal and passive way to show them how you feel about the non accountablity and "facts' they print for news nuggets.
Some folks are just pumped up and tired of being fed bullshit and being kept in the dark like mushrooms.That guy that shoved the reporter must have just popped a rivot.
The reporters are not there by forc3, they voluntarly walk in there so I don't see it as Trumps team's problem to baby sit the reporters.They should have their own security.
By kebmo at 12,Feb,19 19:23 other posts of kebmo 
Wrong! It is the legal responsibility of Donald Trump to ensure the security of all of the people in the arena. ALL of them.
By phart at 12,Feb,19 22:21 other posts of phart 
Intresting? Just for my education,is this a law or rule because of insurance since the rent is paid by the Trump group? Just curious. I would have thought if rent was paid to the facilty,as part of what the rent pays for,their insurance would cover problems and security,so security would be their problem moreso than the folks renting it.
If Humpty dumpty reporter that got pushed got hurt in some way,who's insurance would pay the bill? That would dictate who was responsiable for security right?
It may be contracted that the renter covers security I don't know,that is why I am inquireing.
By kebmo at 12,Feb,19 23:29 other posts of kebmo 
only registered users can see external links I just watched this. For partisan politics the politician pays but for government business the tax payer pays.

By kebmo at 20,Jan,19 19:59 other posts of kebmo 
"You can't impeach someone who's doing a great job."

-Donald Trump
By JustWill at 20,Jan,19 22:43 other posts of JustWill 
"And Mexico will pay for it!"

-also Don the Con
By kebmo at 20,Jan,19 23:04 other posts of kebmo 

By JustWill at 21,Jan,19 12:05 other posts of JustWill 
"I will proudly own the shutdown."

-Trumpty Dumpty

(The question is: Was he lying THEN or is he lying NOW? Okay, that's actually a trick question. He's ALWAYS lying.)

By JustWill at 22,Jan,19 12:20 other posts of JustWill 
Um...the American People?

-any American who realizes that they were lied to

By #577391 at 21,Jan,19 08:12
Did he just agreed we CAN impeach him?
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Rarely do we find men who willingly engage in hard, solid thinking. There is an almost universal quest for easy answers and half-baked solutions. Nothing pains some people more than having to think.”

Dr Martin Luther King
By phart at 21,Jan,19 08:44 other posts of phart 
Wise words from a registered Republican that was always denied a concealed carry permit.He wanted to carry a gun because he feared for his life. Most of the men around him had concealed guns.
By huxley999 at 21,Jan,19 18:53 other posts of huxley999 
Hi phart,

Not trick questions (I'm genuinely interested to read your reply):

What do you think makes a Republican, or what does Republicanism mean if you prefer?

Do you think Trump is a Republican?

PS. re your comment regarding Dr King: 1964 is a helluva long time ago and I'm pretty sure that, whatever Republicanism is, it's changed somewhat since then. I'm, also, not sure what your criticism of Dr King IS!? Is gun ownership a left/right issue .... really? Plus, he was damned right to fear for his life .. wouldn't you agree?
By phart at 21,Jan,19 20:28 other posts of phart 
No criticism meant there at all sir.
It just may shock people to find out he was not a democrat.
And that he felt a gun was good protection.Another non democrat thing.
That is what I was getting at.
He was a smart man.
People just weren't ready for what he had to say.
IF he were alive today,giving that same speach he gave to a middle school class,he would be just as hated now as he was then by alot of people.Young kids of any color nowadays do not want to be told to go out and be the BEST Doctor, or the BEST trashman.They want to be told how to push buttons or get welfare or what the best caliber pistol is.
By huxley999 at 22,Jan,19 09:42 other posts of huxley999 
It surprised me (a little) that Dr. King was a registered Republican. Although, having said that, my limited web-based research seems to indicate that this might be less clear-cut than you make out.

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Perhaps you could tell me what YOUR sources for that assertion are?

In addition, it would still be nice (if you have the time/inclination) to hear your thoughts about Republicanism and whether Trump is a Republican.

"And that he felt a gun was good protection.Another non democrat thing. " So you DO think gun ownership is a left/right issue? Surely it's more nuanced than that?
By phart at 24,Jan,19 22:27 other posts of phart 
Sometime when i have the chance I will look up the meaning of that long word and get back to ye. But as far as Trump being a actual Republican,naw,best I can remember he was a democrat for years. But when he wanted to run for office,he knew he didn't have a chance with a 3rd party.
And yes,I do think gun ownership is along party lines.At a meeting just tonight 1 of the guys wore his NRA hat.The democrat at the table was not impressed.Of course,her face coulda been because me and another fellow were both wearing our Trump hats.
By huxley999 at 25,Jan,19 11:26 other posts of huxley999 
You may "think" gun ownership is along party lines, but I still contend it's more nuanced/complicated than that. The article below seems to point out that, although you're more likely to be a gun owner if you're a Republican, your views on assault weapons; background checks; allowing teachers to hold guns; concealed carry etc can equally be down to your gender and whether you are a gun owner.

If it was as simple as you make out I would contend that there wouldn't be as many as 17 percent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning adults who are gun owners. That's a pretty significant minority!

Are you also skating over my contention that perhaps Dr King actually wasn't a Republican, or at least that you should provide sources to back up your assertions? I think you're a polite guy who listens to the other guy's views, phart, but you appear to have a tendency to make pretty wild claims without bothering with such drawbacks as facts or evidence.

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By #578610 at 10,Feb,19 17:23
Young kids of any color nowadays do not want to be told to go out and be the BEST Doctor, or the BEST trashman.They want to be told how to push buttons or get welfare or what the best caliber pistol is.

I think you are out of touch with today's kids.
By phart at 10,Feb,19 21:07 other posts of phart 
Eh,Nope I aint. See it every day.There are a precious few that excell in what they do and are working hard to get where they want to be I will grant you that.But the majority of the young are not motivated to do anything other than get up and drink a energy drink and grab their Iphone 10 and text all day

By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 21:45 other posts of kebmo 
The US government workers are now getting paid and going back to work. That's a great thing! They had N O T H I N G to do with the Wall; they were pawns. SAD.
By phart at 26,Jan,19 09:59 other posts of phart 
I will agree it is sad.BUT as I have ask before,who decided WHO got the snip? I have yet to hear anyone on tv ,the internet or anything explain how it was decided who not to pay.
THat would be good information if you could get the truth.Reason being if it were democrats that decided,then we would know it was deliberate to make Trump look bad.IF it was republicans,then we need to figure out which 1's so we can vote the traitors out of office.
By JustWill at 26,Jan,19 12:52 other posts of JustWill 
Phart, the decision was made based upon the fact that the parts of the government which were shut down had not had a budget approved past the date of the shut down. The other 2/3 of the government which remained open had already been funded. When it came time to pass the rest of the budget--the part that would pay the workers in question--the House and the Senate approved a bipartisan budget, but Trump refused to sign it because there was no funding for his wall in it. All he had to do was sign, and those people would have been paid weeks ago.
By phart at 26,Jan,19 18:36 other posts of phart 
Ok,looks like there is some changes need to be made so that security is funded first and then the other.
It woulda been best to have balked on the other 2/3's I guess and got this out of the way.
This 3 week thing is just kicking the can down the road.Typical politics.

By kebmo at 26,Jan,19 21:00 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, who decided not to pay the government workers you ask? Donald Trump did. He said that he would own the shut down and because of the shutdown, the workers did not get paid.

The reason that the government workers did not get paid is because Donald Trump did not sign the bipartisan bill that BOTH sides put together and sent to his desk. Because he refused to sign it, there was a shutdown.
By phart at 27,Jan,19 10:25 other posts of phart 
I ask who decided who would not get paid,not who decided not to pay them. Justwill's answer,makes the most sense of anything I have read so far.Those workers just got caught in a loophole.Had security and safty related departments been funded first, it would have been Department of agriculture workers ,the useless EPA the useless FCC and parks and rec and other not essential staff.

By Scorps at 27,Jan,19 10:57 other posts of Scorps 
You're SO partially right, he did in fact say that and then DID it! Then the pukes of the Dem party, a.k.a. obstructionist, just made sure it STAYED that way for the duration. Seems you forgot to mention that part... Oh! And the other part where they refused to sign the negotiated bills put forth by the Repubs. SO many seem to conveniently forget that the #1 designated use for tax monies in THIS country, was and is, for SECURITY! Not every fly by night gimme gimme gimme that these dimwits come up with.
By JustWill at 27,Jan,19 14:59 other posts of JustWill 
Scorpio, your side also tends to look at the situation through a cracked lens. The Democrats passed several bills in the house to reopen the government. Mitch refused to put them up for a vote in the Senate because there was no WALL in them. Trump doesn't actually care about "border security", he just wants his wall--his ineffective, money-wasting wall. You know, the one that Mexico, not the American taxpayers, is supposed to pay for.
Trump held 8000,000 American workers hostage for over a month because of his ego and his need to please the 35% of the population who wrongly thinks he is the Messiah.
The Senate and the House agreed to a bipartisan budget before the shutdown. Trump refused to sign it (after saying that he would) because a couple of conservative talking-heads called him a wimp. Those people worked without pay because Trump acted like a ch1ld.

By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 21:24 other posts of kebmo 
Roger Stone: Another one bites the dust. The next guy to flip on Trump is in the laser eye of Mueller.

Keep draining that swamp Mr. Mueller!! You're doing a great job.

By JustWill at 25,Jan,19 09:56 other posts of JustWill 
Donald Trump is the Charles Manson of the Republican Party.
By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 11:29 other posts of kebmo 
I'm sure he's the 'greatest Charles Manson in history' with all the Helter Skelter going on in his world.
By JustWill at 25,Jan,19 11:56 other posts of JustWill 
Mitch McConnell is Squeaky From...

By #559941 at 25,Jan,19 00:58
Why can't trump declare a national emergency ? Why does he have to kiss nancy pelosi's ass?
By kebmo at 25,Jan,19 01:08 other posts of kebmo 
Because she won't let him fuck her.
By mr_blue at 25,Jan,19 04:40 other posts of mr_blue 
By phart at 25,Jan,19 10:03 other posts of phart 
SHEESH< I would fuck a grizzly bear before I would consider fucking her! YUKES.
I think the real reason he has not done that yet is he is trying to get the dems to work with him.We all know more can get done if all of them would work together.
To just declare a emergency, he would not be giving the other side a chance to negociate a better deal.
I can't spell that word.
Anyhow.I do wish the dems would offer 3 billion this year and 3 billion next year or something to get this thing moving again.

By #554098 at 24,Jan,19 22:19
If he wants to build a wall, build it North, on the boarder to Canada, to stop the FRIGID COLD AIR from invading!! That's a bigger worry now!!
By phart at 24,Jan,19 22:28 other posts of phart 
The air would just rise above it or sink below it!
By #554098 at 24,Jan,19 22:39
Come on!! Trump could build a wall tall enough!! At least in his mind!!

By #559941 at 22,Jan,19 10:35

By #559941 at 21,Jan,19 11:11
You can keep your teeth,, Period
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By JustWill at 17,Jan,19 12:46 other posts of JustWill 
So it has now gone from "there was no collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia" to "okay, there may have been collusion between the campaign and Russia, but Trump didn't know about it".
Which means that Trump is either a liar or an idiot.
(I take that back. It isn't necessarily an either/or situation.)
By leopoldij at 17,Jan,19 13:18 other posts of leopoldij 
He is not an idiot. He is a liar or idiot though.
By #577391 at 18,Jan,19 21:47
I must have left my brains in bed. Is he or is he not an idiot?
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Well, wheather he is an idiot or he isn't, he is crooked. He colluded with Russia. No proof yet? He's changed his story more times than Melania changes undies (I'm assuming she does). A run of the mill person charged with a crime and being interrogated would be charged with the crime for changing his story so many times. Hmm, maybe idiot fits.
By leopoldij at 19,Jan,19 03:59 other posts of leopoldij 
Let me rephrase what I said.
The statement he's liar or idiot is true.
The statement he's not an idiot is also true.
By #577391 at 19,Jan,19 08:36
By leopoldij at 19,Jan,19 08:51 other posts of leopoldij 
Well, if A or B is true and the negation of A is also true we're left with only one possibility.
I'm just using plain English.
By #577391 at 19,Jan,19 10:25
Allright, Leopoldj, in your opinion, no algebra, is Trump an idiot?
By leopoldij at 19,Jan,19 12:54 other posts of leopoldij 
I don't know. My feeling is that he is not an idiot. But I can't be sure.
By #577391 at 20,Jan,19 08:25
Sorry. I still don't know how this posting works.
Well, wheather he is an idiot or he isn't, he is crooked. He colluded with Russia. No proof yet? He's changed his story more times than Melania changes undies (I'm assuming she does). A run of the mill person charged with a crime and being interrogated would be charged with the crime for changing his story so many times. Hmm, maybe idiot fits.
By leopoldij at 20,Jan,19 10:29 other posts of leopoldij 
Could be. One could be crooked and idiot, or crooked but not an idiot, or idiot but not crooked; or neither. Four possibilities. Add the word liar and you got 8 possibilities. It's too much for anyone not in the underground world of politics to decide.
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By kebmo at 24,Dec,18 13:30 other posts of kebmo 
Trumpian economics:
When the stock market is doing great it's because of the actions of Trump. When it's in the tank, it's because of the actions of others.
By phart at 24,Dec,18 19:37 other posts of phart 
I don't keep up with many stocks,just the 1's i own some of. So far mine has went up and stayed up a few bucks during the past 2 years.
The shares I sold because the company was bought out by a canadian company has since lost over 13 dollars a share.i lost a dollar a share and sold it before it started dropping off bad.
With WTI crude down to 45 a barrel,I don't who to blame or thank for it but it has helped alot of us be able to travel affordably during the holidays
By kebmo at 24,Dec,18 20:10 other posts of kebmo 
Phart my point is that he took all the credit when the market was high but now blames others because it's tanking. You can't have it both ways.
By phart at 25,Dec,18 09:29 other posts of phart 
I must say,this is a good time for him not to take credit as the market goes up and down alot regardless of who is in there. I can't believe oil is down to 42 a barrel and gas is 1.25 a gallon wholesale at the moment wow!

By leopoldij at 06,Jan,19 04:50 other posts of leopoldij 
What's wrong with that logic? It's perfectly acceptable for anyone who always wants to be right.
By #559941 at 19,Jan,19 12:50
See this is a false premise you have. For me it is not to always be right. My desires are to find out the truth.
By leopoldij at 19,Jan,19 12:53 other posts of leopoldij 
Well, if the premise is false then my conclusion is false too.
By #559941 at 19,Jan,19 12:53

By #559941 at 19,Jan,19 12:59
To find out the truth is to develop a hypothesis, you draw your data to support this in order to develop a conclusion of whether the evidence supports the hypothesis or not. If it does it is considered theory. Until you develop evidence to rule out this theory it will remain as such.. If there is confirmation to this theory it becomes law... Did you take this in school or could it be true they aren't teaching this anymore since the globalists want sharia law now?
By #577391 at 20,Jan,19 08:11
Truth is overrated. Most times people don't believe you. You get ostracized and eventually you get blamed for what the truth brings. I say, lie,lie,lie,and lie.

By Skittles at 19,Jan,19 10:27 other posts of Skittles 
Even the Wright Brothers flew further than Pelosi.
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By phart at 19,Jan,19 17:54 other posts of phart 
HEHEHEHe thanks for the laugh !

By #559941 at 17,Jan,19 22:41
2 reasons...
1) If Trump opens the government and doesn't get the wall up he will lose the 2020 election most likely.
2) This is NOT a political topic, it is national security and the dems want open borders and illegal aliens for their voting base. History will show the democraps don't care about anyone except themselves and power..

Soon there will be a national emergency declared but the GOP wants to give the dems a chance..--------------------------------------- added after 2 minutesWhy does this concern you? You are from Canada and you don't have to worry about central america, you have to worry about the middle east invasion. I'd worry about that more.. YOur country is about to become Islamic with no Jews allowed to live there.. Soon after the Christians will have to either convert to Islam or they will get their balls sliced off..
By #577391 at 18,Jan,19 15:43
I don't understand what you are trying to say. Is Mr Trump deporting Muslim to Canada?
By #559941 at 18,Jan,19 20:41
Putting up a border wall does not mean it is going to keep Muslims out or anyone that comes into our country legally. Those that are undocumented and not allowed in. This is the same way a biological cell membrane vets out bad bacteria. Our wall is to protect our country from potential enemies.
Canadian's Left has volunteered taking in rejects from USA and giving them citizenship by giving them everything free. When the population of Islamist's reaches the 5% plateau you are going to see changes of behavior. These refugees that come in peace asking for help are going to turn into radicals by changing the entire government to sharia law. Unfortunately this will be very grieve towards women, homosexuals, Jews, Christians, communists, and children since there are no laws protecting them from ****philia..
By #577391 at 18,Jan,19 20:55
I'm not an expert but 5% seems to small an amount to change the Canadian way of life
By phart at 18,Jan,19 21:33 other posts of phart 
Eh,5% does not sound like a lot. But when those folks have a entirely different way of doing things,they cah really reek havoc.
By #577391 at 18,Jan,19 21:45
If it happens I hope we have enough time to take over Canada. This is scary.
By kebmo at 19,Jan,19 00:19 other posts of kebmo 
Just like you did in the war of 1812? At this point in American history a lot of Americans would be very happy if the White House got burned down again.
By #577391 at 19,Jan,19 00:34
The house is not important. The lack of survivors would be OF MAJOR importance
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I'd double my consumption of Canadian Bacon if it'll help

By kebmo at 19,Jan,19 00:38 other posts of kebmo 
Godzilla you could move to Alaska, still American and safe from the hordes of bad guys on the way to take over your country. Don't forget your mittens!
By #577391 at 19,Jan,19 00:40
Not me. Miamians don't like to live in freezers
By kebmo at 19,Jan,19 00:42 other posts of kebmo 
EddyW Puerto Rico?
By #577391 at 19,Jan,19 01:59
Miami, Florida
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Heaven forbid we had the wrong president to build the wall. That would be a dream come true

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Nah, Florida is my type of climate. Since you don't know anything about America you should check out the real histories instead of taking the Left's word for it. They are pathological liars.
I don't have to move to Alaska since we have the right president in charge for building the wall. It is you I'd suggest start moving towards Elesmere Island if you know where that is. If you aren't sure just point your tities north and keep walking

By Skittles at 18,Jan,19 23:19 other posts of Skittles 
Fuck you Kebmo.. banning coward.
By kebmo at 18,Jan,19 23:29 other posts of kebmo 
Why thank you! You have a nice day too.

By kebmo at 08,Jan,19 21:25 other posts of kebmo 
What's wrong with getting American government opened again, getting 800,000 people back to work and discussing border security as a separate topic. When did they become the same topic?
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Both the Texas and Arizona governors are Republican. If they agreed with Trump, we would have heard from them but they say nothing.

By kebmo at 11,Dec,18 16:42 other posts of kebmo 
Have you seen the Trump, Pelosi, Schumer, Pence shit show in the White House today? Pelosi and Schumer are chess players talking to a checkers player. They'll eat Trump alive in the next couple of years.
Through the whole meeting, Pence didn't say one single word.

I call Ivanka Trump for next Chief of Staff.
By #562152 at 11,Dec,18 19:22
By kebmo at 11,Dec,18 19:45 other posts of kebmo 
Just to be clear, no part of "The Wall" has been started and no money has been allocated for it.
I could have sworn I heard somewhere that Mexico was going to pay for it. Who said that?
By #562152 at 11,Dec,18 19:56
Trump wrongly believed that the Tijuana Cartel was going to donate 80% of the cost in exchange for free entry of certain goods to be named later.
By phart at 13,Dec,18 10:44 other posts of phart 
Yea,I read a bit about it. Pelosi and Schumer are coing to TRUMP now offering money to help build what they are calling a fence instead of a wall. But yes,I did read it,democrats offereing to help get the wall started.The power of negotiation.Ask for more than you want and stick to your guns and a counter offer will come along if the other side wants to move on.
By kebmo at 13,Dec,18 10:54 other posts of kebmo 
Phart where did you read this? I don't believe it. Show me a CREDIBLE news source that says this and I will eat these words but I think what you just said is not true.
By phart at 13,Dec,18 19:28 other posts of phart 
this damn ole flat face phone thing I got recently has all kinds of "news" feeds on it.I read it on that but here is a couple excerpts and links from a short google search.;

Schumer and Pelosi visited The White House on Tuesday to negotiate with Trump over border wall funding in the next spending bill. The pair offered Trump approximately 1.3 billion dollars in funding for the wall, while the president demanded 5 billion dollars. The impasse could lead to a partial government shutdown.

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The Democratic leaders, Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi. ... he won't accept anything less than what he has demanded for his border wall. ... Along with Schumer, Pelosi intends to "offer President Trump 1.3 billion dollars in ...

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By kebmo at 13,Dec,18 21:27 other posts of kebmo 
I saw the shit show in the office. $1.3B was for border security not a wall.
By phart at 14,Dec,18 20:44 other posts of phart 
" The pair offered Trump approximately 1.3 billion dollars in funding for the wall"
That is kinda specific..
By kebmo at 15,Dec,18 01:41 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, I stand corrected.
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By phart at 15,Dec,18 11:38 other posts of phart 
Now that was civilised. We can all be wrong sometimes,it is how we handle it that matters.
I could think of alot of other things that money could better spent on if only folks respected the laws and borders and so forth already in place.

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By JustWill at 21,Dec,18 12:46 other posts of JustWill 
He went from "I'll proudly take the blame for a shutdown!"
to "The Democrats own the shutdown!" faster than Fox News could slap his pecker. What a lying pussy...
By phart at 21,Dec,18 13:32 other posts of phart 
Well,if the dems would work with him on his wall,then there would be no shut down.
By JustWill at 21,Dec,18 14:10 other posts of JustWill 

He's supposed to be a "great negotiator".
Saying "Give me $5 billion, or I'll trow a temper tantrum and shut down the government" isn't negotiating--it's blackmail.
Why should the Democrats work with him when he refuses to work with them?
By kebmo at 21,Dec,18 16:46 other posts of kebmo 
Isn’t that the Art of the Deal” Will? Crybaby in Cheif.

By leopoldij at 06,Jan,19 04:53 other posts of leopoldij 
Ivanka won't accept this non profitable job: she is busy with her Russian business:

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By Andthisisme at 06,Jan,19 05:21 other posts of Andthisisme 
C’mon, Pence is being sure not offend anyone at all, while not offending Trump. He has his eye on being a President himself.
Having written that it sounds like I am suggesting Pence puts ambition before the good of the country. That can’t be right, can it?

By JustWill at 21,Dec,18 12:10 other posts of JustWill 
Trump is pulling out of Syria because Putin ordered him to.
By leopoldij at 21,Dec,18 12:18 other posts of leopoldij 
Indeed. You're absolutely right.
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By phart at 21,Dec,18 13:36 other posts of phart 
That link only takes me to a sign up page.

Well think about it,what the hell is the reason for both countrys with opposing ideas to be killing each other over that desolate land? It is not worth another Russian or American life. If Putin has any sense,he will quit wasting his countrys resources on the dump.It's own citizens leave the country in droves, why defend it,why protect it,if the citizens won't themselves?

Frankly I hope we get out of Afganistan and Iraq soon.We have lost to many lives and money in that pit.
By leopoldij at 21,Dec,18 17:28 other posts of leopoldij 
"What the hell is the reason for both countrys with opposing ideas to be killing each other over that desolate land? It is not worth another Russian or American life."

The reason is elementary.
It's money.
It's not actually the countries that have the interests.
It's a very few filthy rich people.
They want the oil.

That countries are fighting is just a showcase.
It's capital that's fighting. Capital has no country, no religion, no affiliation.

By the way, the link above is from Financial Times. It shows how much business deals Trump has had with Russia, ever since it was called Soviet Union. He made lots of money and is still making. He didn't care, and he still doesn't, if his business deals were with communists, fascists, Nazis, socialists, democrats, progressive, conservative.... Money has no country. His only interest was (And still is) his pocket. The United States (and ordinary Americans) is used as a vehicle for furthering his interests and increasing his wealth.

Putin is the same.

By kebmo at 01,Jan,19 17:16 other posts of kebmo 
Russia has a large naval base in Syria and it wants to keep it. That's why they are involved in the first place.

"On 18 January 2017, Russia and Syria signed an agreement, effective forthwith, whereunder Russia would be allowed to expand and use the naval facility at Tartus for 49 years on a free-of-charge basis and enjoy sovereign jurisdiction over the base."
By phart at 02,Jan,19 09:45 other posts of phart 
intresting info.

By #573189 at 05,Jan,19 14:45
Trump is pulling out because he is not a friggin' war munger.
.and if it is that Putin told him its even better. Those two guys could make the world less bad than it was,or is today.

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By #573189 at 01,Jan,19 15:38
He is so right about that!

By phart at 21,Dec,18 13:33 other posts of phart 
I think the land owners along the southern border should each start a go fund me page to help them build the wall themselves since our sorry ass government can't seem to let it happen.

By Scorps at 14,Dec,18 03:57 other posts of Scorps 
I'm almost as giddy as a schoolgirl! Brace yourselves for the upcoming battle royale! Steadily poking that hornets nest Bahahahahahah So... I'll translate my giddiness, for the lame. NO BODY GIVES TWO REAL SHITS about what President Donald J. Trump did prior to becoming President. ESPECIALLY in regards to his personal life. Really, its irrelevant to this country! Just as I didn't really give two shits about Clinton fucking in the Oval office. The difference... One did his dirt while in office and then lied. No difference, right? Oh bullshit! They announced they are going to reopen other investigations that were so obviously covered up and poo poo'ed under the carpet. You reap what you sow... In the end, I hope they lock that lying vindictive bitch up. I also cannot wait to find out the level of participation by the anointed one. You keep poking the hive with a stick, your gonna get stung. It's coming... This will show what happens when your own house is dirty and you want to throw stones at someone else. This could be one of the biggest revealing of crooks this country has EVER seen. Keep poking!
By phart at 14,Dec,18 11:04 other posts of phart 
you know as much as I would like to see justice done,I think there is a better way.
Drop all these investigations,close the cases on EVERYONE, and put that effort into fixing the country.
Clinton got some pussy, Hillary fucked up on email, Trump got some pusssy before he was president. OK, so what will all this investigating do to change all that? NOTHING.
SO why not drop it all, Let hillary go rot in her own self pity and lets spend that money,time and effort into Fixen America'
By Scorps at 14,Dec,18 12:21 other posts of Scorps 
Phart, I couldn't agree more, honestly. But! They are just too stupid to understand your reasoning. I mean that! They are SO filled with hatred they cannot see past themselves. Since that is the case, fuck-em! One good turn deserves another, an eye for an eye, you kill my dog I'll kill your cat. Say it anyway you like. They have been relentless for the last 2 years with NO sign of easing up. I'm personally sick and tired of hearing about this stupid shit. As are many others. It will in fact keep his base fired up and he will win again. They will get what they deserve. Afterall, he did promise to drain the swamp, what better way than to expose all these crooked fucks for what they are... Crooked! They made every attempt to sabotage his run to the point they had theirselves fooled into believing they were gonna win. The look of stupor on their faces, as they realized he won. Will forever be burned into my brain. That's how convinced they had themselves. The attempt to sabotage, was despicable and inexcusable. No body wants to play a game with a bunch of cheats or sore LOSERS!

By kebmo at 13,Dec,18 02:41 other posts of kebmo 
"If Donald Trump was a rapper, his name would be Colludacris".

-Jimmy Kimmel

By phart at 22,Nov,18 09:22 other posts of phart 
Got my first Trump 2020 flag in the mail yesterday. "Keep America Great"
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By phart at 12,Dec,18 10:33 other posts of phart 
You wish!
2024 he will go.
Hopefully by then things will be straightened out. Alot of growing pains right now. Everyone is trying their damnest to bring him down.Funny thing is he aint falling yet! hehe, that is pissing off the liberals BAD.
BUT hey, even a liberal with any sense should be taking a second look at what got voted in office in new york,she is purty but DUMB as a fucking ROCK

By JustWill at 21,Nov,18 12:43 other posts of JustWill 
So, under Smokey the Trump's new forest management policy, the goal is to rake the floors of millions of acres of forest to prevent fires.
Here's an idea that can put that plan into motion AND resolve the immigration problem:
When folks cross the southern boarder seeking asylum, hand them a rake. Once they have cleared 10 acres of forest floor, they gain US citizenship. Two birds killed with one stone!

By Scorps at 21,Nov,18 14:00 other posts of Scorps 
Oh! 😆 That was clever if nothing else
By phart at 21,Nov,18 18:13 other posts of phart 
I remember hearing my dad talk about how clean Germany was when he was there in the 50's. And it was partly because the folks burned the wood for heat but it was also because they were proud of their land and for fire safety.
As a former fireman that has fought several small, as in 10 acre fires,I can tell you the idea of keeping underbrush and general trash like leaves and stuff out of the woods surrounding homes is a great idea.
What do you think a fire line is? It is a line that is cut thru all the combustables.A dozer is used to clear underbrush and leave bare dirt in a strip wide enough to stop the fire spread. Depending on the winds as to how wide the strip needs to be.

As far as the folks in California.That is just to damn much for anyone to deal with.You could find fault with every single person involved but the simple fact is, it was or still is a HUGE problem.
Once it is dealt with,Trumps idea would be easy to implement because it is BARE ground now.
Prevention and preservation is cheaper than replacment.
By #562152 at 21,Nov,18 18:26
Phart, the problem is that soon every one would want a vacuum cleaner. We can't have that. The amount of electricity that would suck up would break the local utility. And what if a person of color complains that the illegals are taking his job. No,we can't do that. It's easier and better if we evacuate the area every 2 or 3 years and burn everything to the ground.

By kebmo at 21,Nov,18 23:20 other posts of kebmo 
Phart aren’t almost all of California’s forrests run by a national department? Isn’t it Trump’s government’s responsibility to care for them?
By phart at 22,Nov,18 09:12 other posts of phart 
`well trump has only been in office 2 years. Kinda hard to fix everything at once.
Frankly the power company whos equipment has caused the SECOND major fire in that state,is who should be catching the most flack.
By kebmo at 22,Nov,18 10:57 other posts of kebmo 
How about picking up the phone and telling his forestry person to take care of what ever needs taking care of instead of blaming California for his lack of action? One phone call.
Rake the State? Rake America Great Again? Just one phone call.

By kebmo at 20,Nov,18 23:30 other posts of kebmo 
So now Trump says it's OK for Saudi Arabia to murder journalists? I think his post presidency financial plans depend on Saudi and Russian money.
By JustWill at 21,Nov,18 12:37 other posts of JustWill 
Under the Trump Administration, you can brutally torture and kill as many people as you long as you pay us enough money.

By #559941 at 21,Nov,18 13:01
Saudi Arabia is containing the murderers and face death penalty on this charges. What more do you want? At the same time Iran is our threat.. Just like USA had to join with Russia to defeat hitler then going back to hating each other after the war.. You appear smart... Use your intelligence to figure out the equations and you will come up with different conclusions..
By phart at 21,Nov,18 18:08 other posts of phart 
from what I read the "journalist" was a enemy of the state. Who are we to decide who Saudi Arabia considers a threat to them?
frankly I wish Trump had just kept America uninvolved and let those folks settle it without us poking our nose's in it.
By #562152 at 21,Nov,18 18:32
That journalist was an American citizen
By phart at 22,Nov,18 09:14 other posts of phart 
Still irrelavant really.
No differnt than the clinton list of people that get their ass's wacked when they got to be a problem.When Americans go sticking their noses in everyone else
's bussiness,things don't always go so well. He could have stayed in New york,and been mugged and killed for 20 bucks out of his pocket and no one would be saying anything.
By #562152 at 22,Nov,18 10:04
No one would be saying anything in a national scale. If he had died during a mugging in NY, the cops there would have had plenty to say and would have pushed for justice. Trump is pushing for business. People who think like you eat that up. Lives don't matter. Good is only good if it doesn't get in the way of the mighty dollar. Oil is the only justice that we should persue.
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And another thing. You think the USA is the only country that sticks it's nose in other countries business? Let me give you a list: RUSSIA, GERMANY, GREAT BRITAIN, FRANCE, CHINA, ISRAEL, IRAN, CANADA, INDIA, JAPAN, SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN. AND MANY MORE. The world is small and all countries want their piece of the pie. Why shouldn't the USA have a piece too?

By #562152 at 21,Nov,18 18:35
I think we should be nicer to Iran. They protect us from the TelAvib caravans headings for Brooklyn
By #559941 at 21,Nov,18 20:39
Or keeping broom sticks from going straight up your ass..

By #559941 at 21,Nov,18 20:48
I know something better.. How about if we got 5 million pigs to give a nice new home in Tehran?...
Personally I am not affected by your comment,, but be careful because many Jews will find that to be a racist comment .But I'm starting to understand why you worshiped Carter and FDR now..
By #562152 at 21,Nov,18 20:59
No, you don't understand. That, lollipop, was sarcasm.
By #559941 at 21,Nov,18 23:16
Like I said I understand but others may not. The reason being is this. H ate crimes to races or religions or certain groups Jews are targeted and hit 58% of the time. The race or religion that is 2nd is Islamist's at 18%. There are even Jews that h ate Jews. Bernie Sanders and Chuck Schumer are Jews but are anti-Israel in fact. Israel has a left like here and they too are Pro-Palestine and believe Jews are unauthorized to live in the land of Canaan.
The left is geared towards destroying Israel. Why do you think certain presidents go as democrats and certain presidents go republican.. The last democrat to actually sympathize with Israel was JFK who in fact was the last president to be murdered by the deep state.. The democrats are a very controversial and violent party.If you want proof then do research on how the KKK was formed. Yes the democrats.. The civil war was the democrats throwing a shit fit because Lincoln abolished slavery.. If they do not get what they want they will resort to terrorism and flooding the media with false accusations. The fact of the matter is, Hillary Clinton got sloppy and exposed her clinton foundation with her clients being from anti-american Muslim countries. This also included Cash Payouts for the FBI to provide protections to this path of corruption. This has put Israel in jeopardy.. What I know is this... If Israel falls, the United States is done including the free world and freedoms for woman, Jews, Christians and any other non-muslim will be eventually destroyed with sharia law ruling the world. As time goes on because of their radicalization they will even kill each other off.. The proof is in Iran, Chad, and Somalia. Once they get their hands on nuclear weapons it is over and out !!.... So keep voting democrat,,, keep supporting radical Islamic terrorism.. Yes of course.. I really understand what you mean now..

By phart at 09,Nov,18 11:03 other posts of phart 
Some dumbass judge has stopped the pipeline AGAIN>
Taking money out of people's pockets. I would think Canada would be furious as this is taking money from their pockets,jobs and so forth.
The Indians are upset about the pipeline.A senesable solution was found to alleviate their concerns.But it is not enough for the conservationist and the indians.

But Sadly the fact is if Trump walked into the reservation and offered to fill in the lake and build them a cassino, they would jump all over that! he would be their hero.
Tell me I am wrong and convince me.
By kebmo at 09,Nov,18 21:59 other posts of kebmo 
I live in Alberta where most of the Canadian oil comes from and we are pissed! We are landlocked and just got a smackdown for a pipeline west to the coast of BC now we have to deal with this.
The province of Alberta relies heavily on the revenues of oil. I view this and the pipeline west to the coast as setbacks. I hope they both get resolved.
The use of oil will continue for decades to come and it's in the interest of Canada and the US to use domestic products instead of lining the pockets of the Middle Eastern countries.
Pipelines are a great way to safely move a lot of product to market from where it's produced. It's just too bad that in order to build one the builder has to kiss every ass along the route.
By phart at 10,Nov,18 09:31 other posts of phart 
To a point I can see the logic in addressing major concerns,like a 8 foot diameter pipe going right past a church 10 feet away,yea,let's move it down the street aways.
Try not to take out alot of homes and what not.But sometimes a issue like this pipeline gets used as a wrench to throw into the gears of government.As in "Trump approved this,it has to be wrong". Which is niether here nor there as far as the jobs and income and stability it could create for both countrys.

By #562152 at 10,Nov,18 15:37
You are wrong. They know that if Trump built them a casino, it would be bankrupt in months
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They could fix it. They don't want to spend millions going through a different route

By Scorps at 08,Nov,18 19:33 other posts of Scorps 
To: TWOWARMTTS2 There you go again... Drawing your OWN conclusions, and saying things I NEVER once said.


I'm not quite as conservative as you want to believe. I TOTALLY believe in the W.I.C. program, Food Stamp program for those in need, Unemployment Insurance, Disability (FOR REAL DISABLED PEOPLE!), and of course Social Security for our Elderly.

Food stamps and welfare checks shouldn't be lived on for the life of the person that keeps pumping out **** recklessly. GET A FUCKING JOB! Be more responsible!!

Now! How did you conclude that I don't believe in those cushions?

Lastly, to YOU and talk5s...

My Wife and I have monthly recurring donations to 6 organization's that we believe in. 2 outside this country. Can you two mouth's make the same claim? I would venture to say... NOT!
That's someone else's responsibility, right?
Also, I didn't disclose that for either of you's approval as I don't need it, nor want it. But, you both act as if I or any conservative, republican, white guy, just don't care about others. Well, neither of you really know me and I could honestly give a flying fuck as to whether you choose to believe that or not.

Just keep employing your bully tactics and see what it gets you. Trumpily Frumpily as one of you refer to him, will win the next election too. As this country is tired of these ridiculous stupid arguments. YOU think this past election was a clear sign of what?

I hope with every ounce of my being that the shitforbrains on the left, do everything in their power, to attempt to impeach this president, and continue the Russia collusion bullshit for the next two years. That will seal the deal for another four years. I'll pray they do that very thing for you guys, even cross my fingers for it. 🤞 🙏🙏

I concede he's brash, and could tone it down a lil. But, it's who he is.
By phart at 09,Nov,18 10:59 other posts of phart 
The trouble I have with the system is the fact if a person winds up on foodstamps and so forth and they make a effort to improve their lives and get a Pell Grant to go to college, they loose the food stamps because the Pell Grant is consided income.If the person getting the grant goes to work 20 hours a week, they can get BACK on food stamps.
Hell,if they was able to find a job, they wouldn't need the stamps or the grant,they would just go to work.!
I know all this 100% for fact as it happened to the xgirlfriend.

By #562152 at 10,Nov,18 06:37
If I was wrong, I'm sorry. My conclusion comes from your coments. But, you assume conclusions about me from my posts. I won't coment about you. Hopefully, no one else does either as you can only handle people who agree with you
By Scorps at 10,Nov,18 13:21 other posts of Scorps 
Nah! I haven't assumed much about you, as you seem like a lovely person for the most part. See! I cannot take credit for this as it's NOT my words. But the words are SO true.

One of the biggest problems with our liberal friends, is that they know TOO much that isn't so. That being said I have only assumed your a lil misguided. Other than that, I enjoy a lil opposition.
By #562152 at 10,Nov,18 15:35
Well, you know it all so you know what isn't so. Us, lesser mortals, plod along with no clue on what's right

By phart at 08,Nov,18 10:17 other posts of phart 
sad when a dead guy is considered a better choice than the live 1!

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By kebmo at 08,Nov,18 14:48 other posts of kebmo 
That's hilarious!! I saw the loser on the Jimmy Kimmel last night and she was funny.

By #562152 at 08,Nov,18 15:39
Will she be declared the winner anyway? The dead guy won't serve (I'm pretty sure about this)
By kebmo at 08,Nov,18 15:43 other posts of kebmo 
I'm not sure what happens now.
By #562152 at 08,Nov,18 15:56
I'm reminded of the film West Side Story. One song went "only in America,"
By kebmo at 09,Nov,18 02:14 other posts of kebmo 
"The assembly seat will be declared vacant, since the winner is dead, and the county commissioner will begin a process to fill the seat."

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By #562152 at 09,Nov,18 10:08
By phart at 09,Nov,18 10:56 other posts of phart 
I guess when I kick the bucket I will run for President!
By #562152 at 09,Nov,18 12:01
Can I be your running mate?
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By Scorps at 08,Nov,18 18:47 other posts of Scorps 
To: talk5s, I had NO desire to respond to your post for a couple reasons. Albeit, I consider myself to have a decent sense of humor, a number of your post are soooo incomprehensible due to you trying to be cute. I surmise your attempting to speak hick, hillbilly, redneck... I think! As I try reading your post it's more like... Jamaican, Ebonics, fortune teller, illiteracy? Not really sure what your attempting. Anyway, sorry if that bothered you. There was also NO response because there was nothing notable, I BELIEVE, worth commenting on. Sorry!

Now to your next post... Nicknames are cool I can handle Scorp. 🙂

I understand what your eluding to in your last post. It's a perfect world scenario that ONE country, the United States, cannot do now or ever!

I absolutely believe that MOST our (United States) resources be bound by OUR borders for OUR citizens. If you don't, that's YOUR opinion and you are entitled to it. AND I hold no grudge against you for that.

As I further interpret what your saying, you would like to see America as the Worlds helping hand, AND take care of every citizen in this country too, with all the free shit libs want and demand.
I may live in a tiny box but it's certainly not la la dreamland, filled with delusions of worldwide grandeur, where you or anyone else thinks this country can pay for everything. It's SO stupid I can't even believe I'm attempting to reason with you.

When major crisis strikes other countries the United States quite often steps up to lend a helping hand, with donations, aid, our military resources etc. There's also outside agencies that accept donations for those countries in need. That being said, you want more, huh?

FREE babysitting, FREE edumacation (just for you 😐 ) K - Doctorate, FREE phones, FREE transportation, FREE healthcare, FREE food stamps, FREE Welfare Checks, FREE housing, FREE internet, FREE clothes, Social Security, Disability, FREE contraception, FREE abortions (aka more contraception), and... Take care of the rest of the poor on this planet.

I can't be any CLEARER for you... YOUR DELUSIONAL!!

IF you think our country is soooo bad you outta consider another. I certainly would if I felt like you.

By talk5s at 06,Nov,18 14:00 other posts of talk5s 
Let's ALL try to imagine an 'Amuricah' under Trump, shall we? Liberals, Conservatives, Thinkers and non thinkers 1st, we must all realize 'THE Donald' does NOT care about YOU. How could ANYONE who puts a 'THE' in front of his name care about anyone EXCEPT himself? If you are too dumb to see this, STOP READING NOW...Under the 'donald' the US would have walls both physical and figurative around our entire country. Some of the figurative walls have started with his trade wars. Since he has NO knowledge of previous history, he does not realize lots of trade wars have resulted in ACTUAL wars. Look @ China and their military ambitions and what they have done in the South China Sea. Already dangerous, just needs some 'tinder' to erupt in outright war. If you don't know what is going on out there, never mind and STOP reading. This is above your head. ... A 'walled off' country was known as an 'Isolationist' country in the past, as was America in the years leading up to WWII. See where that kind of thinking got us? If you are too dim to see this or don't know about WWII, STOP reading now. Caus I am getting ready to piss you off even more! Country's with blind leaders, and I use that term EXTREMELY loosely when it comes to the current Airhead in Chief, find themselves in dire shit at some point. Either all out war or MAJOR economic destruction. Or BOTH. I know, look how 'great' it is now under Trumpily Frumpily!...But IS it? REALLY? Most of you are just relying on a bunch of government numbers. (They are not REAL. Simply there for the MARKET. Rigged also. Nuther story) and 'soundbites' of your choosing. Fox or the other 2...None of that is real EITHER! Some is MORE real, but it's ALL driven by money and as Charlie Sheen once said, 'WINNING'!...The Economy is like flying a Blimp. Every control input takes 30 seconds to have an actual effect on it's flight. Two years in Economical terms, is nothing...Slashing taxes and the immediate good result is like a premature orgasm. Feels GREAT when it happens, but after that glow wears SUCKS! And the deficit GROWS!
By Scorps at 06,Nov,18 15:33 other posts of Scorps 
🤔 Hmmmmmm...

No imagination necessary!!

We ARE in an "Amuricah under Trump".

Before I go any further. I would just like to say... That I personally am very happy that you emerged from the coma you were in. It frequently disturbs me when people are in comas and their family's are quite often forced or inclined to pull the plug. 😥 That being said, welcome back! Good luck with your recovery. 😘

p.s. Amuricah is actually spelled - America

As for the rest of what you said... The proof is in the pudding! More money on my AND my wife's paychecks (less taxes), our health insurance went back to near what we use to pay (NOT tripled like it was during Obama's administration), job boards are filled with jobs, we both got raises from our respective companies.

Yeah! He's REALLY awful. He even gave the system leeches a raise. I know because I know at least 18 people sucking off the "Oh! I'm so disabled" teet!

HE EVEN GAVE THEM A RAISE!! Yeah! Once again. He's just awful!

Crap! I almost forgot...

The deficit! Your joking right?

Obama added MORE to the deficit than EVERY other President before him, COMBINED! That's factual!

Are you sure your "liberal"?

I only ask because most libs are... Throw caution to the wind, let everyone and their brothers and sisters into the country, give everyone FREE healthcare, FREE education from K thru Doctorate, FREE checks to all that just simply dont feel like working and earning theirs, FREE housing for those that just don't feel like working, FREE phones to ALL citizens, FREE Bus passes or transportation of your choice, YES, even a Free Car, FREE food stamps for ALL cause everyones gotta eat, unno. I could go on more, but I would think you would get the point by now. SO! Anyway, after ALLLLLLL those freebies, where is the deficit going? Down?

Damn! I didn't even mention our military. I guess they can all just quit. See what happens to our country, then.

WHERE'S ALL THE FUCKIN MONEY FOR ALL THOSE FREEBIES COMING FROM? How difficult is it to understand the scope of what libs want?
By phart at 06,Nov,18 22:29 other posts of phart 
You are talking to a tree stump.Most liberals do not want to hear the truth.Nor do most of them want to understand even if they were capable.
They like meyhem and saddness and riots and fights and so forth and will whine about anything to have a excuse to riot.
America is better with Trump.
I found some stuff awhile ago ,it was the "hope and change".The first 2 years of obama and it was awful to read how high gas went and how high the unemployment rate went.But it made no matter to the liberals. Facts don't affect their conscience.I often wonder if they have 1.
IF they did,they would not WANT TO BUM off anyone.They would want a job that Trump is trying to bring back to the US.
By talk5s at 07,Nov,18 14:45 other posts of talk5s 
Nicely said, Scorpio!!! Apparently, from YOUR viewpoint, we are BOTH in comas! Kudos to you for seeing just the short term! While I see the LONG term! Sorry to state in such a 'Cockian' fashion. BTW. You did NOT really make sense in your statements. Which I READ, unlike you for mine. For instance, the deficit IS bigger under dumbass. NOT that is different from most other Prez's. It's JUST that 'HE' (I say that so you worshippers kin 'unnerstan') LIES about it or totally IGNORES it. All that FREE stuff you allude to...AIN'T NOT DIFFERENT THAN forever! NOTHING changes in this country. Or ANY other. EVER!...At least in the SHORT times spans of our individual lives. The status quo stays the's just the coverage, or propaganda, that changes. You have fallen for what you perceive as the 'truth' and I have for what I see as the truth.Which is ALL propaganda is just...LIES!. The truth is NOT in what you see daily...but what you actually FEEL...Do you actually FEEL anything anymore, Scorpio? Or are you JUST what you see and hear?... Please, wake up. News no MATTER where you hear or see just MONEY.

By talk5s at 07,Nov,18 14:59 other posts of talk5s 
Hi Phart! I resemeble that!!! I ain't jis da ordinNERY tree stump! I kin tink. I kin seeeee...N I seez what ya n Scorpio don't seez! Ya both be blind as newborn 'chillen'...I does aktually like ya Phart! Really. We be da same generateeeeown! But one of us be blind, n one of us be FULL of future sight... None of us will know for some time...but I am willing to bet both you and Scorpio, I like him too in his youthful beliefs, will one day think...'Jeez Looeezzz! That dumb asshole Talk5s was RIGHT!'.

By Scorps at 07,Nov,18 15:09 other posts of Scorps 
Well phart!

You just never know when you may get through to someone. Causing them to have their own personal "ahhh ha!" moment.

That's what happened to me.

I'm embarrassed to admit this, but I registered as a Democrat way back when. I was told that's what our family was. Because, the Democrats are for the "poor people". Considering how sweet and caring my people were, I cannot imagine that the Democrat party of today is the same one of their time.

Honestly... I think the party was hijacked somewhere along the line and mostly infiltrated with the most ignorant pukes to draw breath.

That being said, somewhere around the Bill Clinton year's (whom I voted for), I had my "ahhh ha!" moment, an epiphany of sorts.

As a Father of 7 who worked very hard to take care of mine, without the assistance of my Government. I am very thankful for that awakening, and haven't looked back since.

Here's to hoping to breach the fog that another lives in.
By phart at 07,Nov,18 17:44 other posts of phart 
Don't be embarussed for registering as a Democrat.Years ago it was NOT the party it is today.

I typicaly vote Republican. I have voted for a couple democrats for local postions over the years because I felt they were doing a good job.
I registered to vote as a Independent so I could help Bush jr get in the second term.I felt he handled getting the bastards that flew into our towers very well.But sadly, things did not go well that second term.It was almost like he or his family had been threatened or something serious and it all fell apart. Obummer gave the order to take out Bin Laden and with all the frufru you would have thought he actually popped a cap in Binladen himself.
Which I still think Binladen is alive and well somewhere.
No that is not a Elvis like "dream" it is a logical conclussion because his $ister already lives in New York and Bin Laden, if dealt with in the right way, would be a valuable asset to prevent further attacks.

The democrat party was once a great party of people that wanted the working man to be properly represented and the Republicans were the "rich greedy bastard crooks" of the world.

So older democrats still remember that old republican reputation. Younger people are confused because the democrat party has changed so much.
It no longer seems to be for the working man.It seems to be more for the lazy bum.

The republicans have took on the role of representing the working class now because without the working man, they don't make profits,they don't get rich.

And frankly Some of us just have to choose from the lesser of the 2 evils because the system does not really allocate any time or coverage to a 3rd party. Which we need so bad.
What doesn't help is when there is a 3rd party guy, he is usually a nutcase so far off in the back 40 he is not even close to left or right feild.No one can relate to them. that does not help set the stage for folks to want a 3rd party running.
By talk5s at 08,Nov,18 14:41 other posts of talk5s 
Hi Scorp! Hi Phar! Pardon the nicknames. Here is TalK! Despite you both ignoring my posts in reply COMPLETELY I am not offended...Having ALREADY stated in terms likely too polite and nice for you to understand in any actual DEPTH I will state this as simply as I can. You are BOTH in a little TINY box called 'Muricah' (Scorpio) with it's outright hoodwinking of people that really want to be good 'Americans'. The kind of 'Americans' that saved the World 70 years ago in WWII. 'Muricahns' cain't do dat no mo as they be so blind to anything beyond this country's politics. Which END at our borders! If you had real foresight, you could both see our entire planet and our combined dangerous PLIGHT living on such a TINY ball in an infinite (who knows?) Universe...of which we know so little...I can't state it any plainer. 'America' is less than 3% of the total land mass on Earth. Around 5% of the total 'humanoid'(7.3 BILLION unthinking and uneducated SCARED SHITLESS and starving bipeds) population. Consumes 25% of the produce and food!!! We also feed a LARGE part of the population that would be DEAD without us...Yeah, I can understand your feeling of entitlement. Have felt it myself because I have always loved 'AMERICA'. I have NO respect for 'Muricah' as it has gradually become. In 2 years under dimwit trumpity dumpity, it has plumbed the depths of a country that no longer cares about it's citizens or it's place on this Planet. I won't go on. You won't read it anyway. Even IF you do, it will not be with an open mind. Just as you accused me of not having...Say something that will open mine and change it to your viewpoint, besides blind rage. I will listen if you do...I have wondered what if (?) lots of times. What if all I know is JUST media driven? Propaganda just as it has been used thru the EONS of human existence to create 'followers' (are you one Scorpio? You Phart?...ME???) for the powers that be. Our beliefs simply the result of the 24 hour news (money/viewer driven and NOT just the truth) driven into our brains at ALL hours of EVERY day. It comes down to who can read between the lines, see the total picture...AND THINK FOR THEMSELVES. I know you both think you do, just as I do...So, have a HAPPY journey down your chosen paths...History is the only thing that will tell which of us had any foresight. And that takes TIME to turn into hindsight...the ONLY truth.

By #562152 at 08,Nov,18 15:49
Scorpio you should be given a medal. Seven **** and still have energy to spout nonsense.
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It always amazes me. The guy that is able to make it without a helping hand, is always the one that resents others getting help. Why are you so mean, so fast to deny others help. I bet you call yourself a Christian yet you don't know the meaning of "help thy neighbor"

By #562152 at 08,Nov,18 15:46
The fucking money comes from taxes. Many people don't give a shit about the other people, or the shape of our infrastructure. Those freeloaders should not get any help. If you loose your job you should not get unemployment insurance and if you don't have money to eat, you should have the decency to go starve were we don't have to see you
By kebmo at 08,Nov,18 16:19 other posts of kebmo 
TWM, "you should have the decency to go starve were we don't have to see you"

By kebmo at 07,Nov,18 06:57 other posts of kebmo 
Congratulations American voters!! First of all for showing up and making this an amazing turnout but more importantly for electing women, Muslims, Black people, Indigenous Americans, Hispanics and gays. Very progressive!
By phart at 07,Nov,18 09:43 other posts of phart 
Notice it was Michigan,way up north!
The Muslim was supported by none other than the Democratic Socialists of America.Does that really sound like a good idea to have our countrys enemys inside our government? How can we protect our country when they have infiltrated it's government? Gee thanks Michigan,your jobs as in the automotive industry have left you out of work,now you will be left without a peaceful country.
The women,as a whole does not bother me that much if they are conservitive educated women.But the muslim seems more like a trophy position for the dems moreso than a real asset.
By JustWill at 07,Nov,18 12:21 other posts of JustWill 
You were able to combine racism, misogyny, xenophobia,religious intolerance, and paranoia all in one short post.
Well done!
By phart at 07,Nov,18 14:07 other posts of phart 
I am sorry my bad!,I forgot it was Buddist Monks that flew planes into our twin towers.

Quite honestly, I know what I said sounds brash,and is actually a slight stretch of how I feel. I know not all muslims are evil.But it is very difficult to forget 9-11 for alot of folks.That serious of a tragdy tends to stick in your mind.Hopefully she will do good for her state.The rest of the country knows that state needs help from somewhere.Bad water,no work,crime out the wazzoo.

And you know as well as anyone, the Dems are showing off their trophies as we speak."LOOKEE here,we got a Muslim in offfice,lookee here,we got a woman in office." And so on.Actually they are using those folks like tools to divide and conquer. They know folks are in disagreement and that makes for good media coverage and opertunitys to protest and riot. And don't we know there is nothing like 20 bus loads of rioters to boost a local economy!

1 of those words I am going to have to google to know what it means.Damn it man! you are educating me!
By JustWill at 07,Nov,18 16:02 other posts of JustWill 

intense or irrational dislike or fear of people from other countries.

I know, the Democrats should be ashamed that they got a more diverse representation of America elected instead of a bunch of old, white rich guys.

While we're on the subject, a white guy shot-up Las Vegas. Does that mean all white guys have to be feared?

By #562152 at 07,Nov,18 16:11
It was Japanese pilots that attacked Pearl Harbor on Dec 7,1941. I'm reminded of this as I sit in my Toyota.
By phart at 07,Nov,18 17:20 other posts of phart 
Being you had family in the military,that does strike me as a bit odd for you to be driving a Toyota.

misogyny is the 1 I gota google later.
By #562152 at 07,Nov,18 19:41
That's my point. Think about
By phart at 08,Nov,18 07:52 other posts of phart 
I have,I am still stumped.If a country tried to invade mine and was shooting at my family,I sure don't know that I could turn around and be a loyal fan of their stuff.

By JustWill at 07,Nov,18 22:27 other posts of JustWill 
dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

By kebmo at 07,Nov,18 16:22 other posts of kebmo 
Phart here's a tidbit of trivia for you. Calgary is Canada's fourth largest city (1.2M) and we are about 60% white. Our mayor was elected in 2010, re-elected in 2013 and re-elected yet again in 2017.
His name? Naheed Nenshi. His religion? Practicing Muslim. Do we give a flying fuck? No because he's a great mayor.
This may sound outrageous to you but all Muslims are NOT out to get you. Most of them are fine people who want to live in peace and better their communities.
60% white and we elect a Muslim mayor THREE times!!! Crazy eh?

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BTW you don't appear to know that there were TWO Muslim women elected yesterday. One in Michigan and one in Minnesota. Two states bordering Canada starting with the letter M. Coincidence? Watch out in 2020 Montana and Maine!!
By Scorps at 07,Nov,18 16:39 other posts of Scorps 
Your Prime Minister though... Hubba hubba

By #562152 at 08,Nov,18 08:00

By leopoldij at 07,Nov,18 19:23 other posts of leopoldij 
Trump threatened to adopt a “warlike posture” and retaliate if they use their newfound power to investigate his financial and political dealings.

Imagine the audacity of the democrats! To want to investigate the president's dealings! How stupid! This president is above the law!

By kebmo at 07,Nov,18 03:45 other posts of kebmo 
Well I think that went rather well. The babysitters have arrived.
By JustWill at 07,Nov,18 12:17 other posts of JustWill 
Let the spankings begin!

By Scorps at 02,Nov,18 13:51 other posts of Scorps 
There's so much pure unadulterated bullshit, anger, and idiocy in this thread. I don't even know where to begin... Someday! If the mood strikes me (which will probably be NEVER). I may indulge myself, and attempt to explain the definition of "liberalism". For now, I simply don't have the strength. As arguing with a "liberal" is like arguing with someone with attention deficit disorder. Don't like what I've said... Go suck a dick! 😉
By JustWill at 02,Nov,18 16:40 other posts of JustWill 
For the record, I'm okay with sucking a dick no matter how you define "liberalism".
By Scorps at 04,Nov,18 12:22 other posts of Scorps 
This is EXACTLY why you are loved by many... 😘
By JustWill at 04,Nov,18 17:30 other posts of JustWill 
"Loved" is kind of a strong word. I've always viewed it more like "Fondly tolerated".

By kebmo at 03,Nov,18 00:18 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, that's why I started it in it's own thread. It's not for everyone. You can choose to open it or not. There is no middle of the road with Trump. It's a love or **** situation but if you open this thread, that's what you'll find, love or ****.
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By Scorps at 04,Nov,18 12:23 other posts of Scorps 
I get that Kebmo, and thanks for doing so.

By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 09:42
Scorpio69,,whether there is or there isn't bs,anger,idiocy in this thread, at least we have the balls to state our views. I find it amusing that you can come and imply you have the definition for a liberal but you don't have the balls to describe yourself and give valid reasons why we should emulate your way of thinking. You may feel that arguing with us is like arguing with someone who has attention defecit disorder. We have similar problems. Arguing with your type is like dealing with a toddler who wants a toy and can't have it
By Scorps at 04,Nov,18 12:32 other posts of Scorps 
Feisty old broad huh? Well... You got the right one this time. 😉 My lack of explaining, certainly didn't have anything to do with my balls, it was strength as aforementioned. SEE! YOU read into what I said, what YOU wanted to see. Put your bifocals on and GET IT RIGHT, ok? As for acting like a toddler who can't have a toy. Well... I was an ONLY c.h.i.l.d. so I may somewhat fit that description. Alas, I will say this, FACTS Trump BULLSHIT any day of the week. Good luck kool aid drinker. I would have thought by now at YOUR age you would have grown up. My BAD for assuming such.
By #562152 at 04,Nov,18 14:55
You can call me an old broad and take offense when I suggest getting a set and explaining yourself? Ok. At least tell us why it’s so hard for you to explain liberalism and why you think it’s a bad thing
By Scorps at 05,Nov,18 04:08 other posts of Scorps 
Heya TWOWARM... I took NO offense to what you said. As for the "old broad" comment, lighten up! It was akin to a lil poke in the ribs as we are not that far apart in age. 😉 All in due time I will explain. I promise! 🤚

By phart at 04,Nov,18 14:56 other posts of phart 
I happen to like Grape Koolaid.
I was a only chi1d myself and I won't get into it but if I was raised today I would have been taken away and put in foster care while my mother sat in prison.
But I decided when she did leave home and left me to learn on my own how to take care of myself and so on that I would pay attention to others actions and the results and learn from it.Someone wrote that is what a wise man would do. My knowledge and opionions are derived from watching the news, talking with real people out there in the real world that try to run bussiness's and raise familys.And from a college education.Although I don't write like. Biggest waste of those years of my life.I could have had several more years towards retirement to show for that time from a decent county or state job.
For example. Before Trump the unempolyment rate around here was very high. Construction workers were loosing homes and struggling. Now, you never see them at home,always working. New vehicals in the yards, kids in college, life is better for them. Leadership that understands bussiness can help folks get back to work. Logical.
Watching these bafoons like the 1 running for gov in Florida while under investigation by the FBI btw, makes me sick.I know there are alot of democrats in that state.But they can't all be dumb enough to vote for that dumbass.And his color aint got a damn thing to do with his abilty to run a state.It is his ethics that are on tv -Fox news if you take a moment and watch, that are a problem.
By Scorps at 05,Nov,18 04:25 other posts of Scorps 
Hey phart, next time try a splash of vodka in your grape kool aid 😉 Yum! 😋 I do primarily watch fox news, but! I occasionally watch HLN and CNN until I can no longer tolerate their bashing. However, most my opinions and beliefs are self formed, and I take pride in that. It's what makes me, ME!

By #562152 at 04,Nov,18 15:00
When Obama was president conservatives ripped him a new one. The Rush Limbaugh’s of the day, and every right wing conservative accused him of being a chimp with stupid ideas. Now, we are the “fake news” because we criticize Trump.
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And what exactly is he doing or done that makes people like you kiss his ass like he was a savior?
By Scorps at 05,Nov,18 04:50 other posts of Scorps 
I think you are directing this at phart, but I would like to comment.

Obama seemed like a cool guy, great dad, and a decent husband. No question in my mind about that. It was his radical ideas that I, personally, did NOT subscribe to. That being said... Guess what! I was INFURIATED when people actually made it across the lawn to the door of the White House. He was at the time, THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! My President (not my choice or my pick) nevertheless My President!! He was leading the best country, in MY opinion, in the ENTIRE world. And as such, should be protected the VERY best from any and all lunatics no matter from what walk of life they are from. Do you understand that? Outraged! Speaking against his views is one thing, and certainly don't rise to "bashing him".

Does this President AT MINIMUM! Get the same MINIMUM respect? Whether you OR anybody else in the United Staes likes him or not. He's our President! I don't necessarily agree with everything he says, as I didn't necessarily disagree with everything Obama said. But I bet you by God, you can't cite ONE instance calling for Obama's death. At least from anyone of any importance. Can you?

Disagree with his ideas, stay strong to your convictions, all you like. Make any and every attempt you can to change the guy's mind. Calling him vile names and for his death is a lil overboard and frankly despicable and abhorrent!

OH! Almost forgot to address 2 other of your remarks.

This is just ONE example, the most recent that I personally observed. That I'm recalling at this very moment for the sake of discussion. "Fake News" Yeah, you gotdamn betcha! When he says he's a "nationalist" and one of the idiot channels remarks that he stated OR eluded to... "WHITE NATIONALIST" WTF else can you make of that, other than... "FAKE NEWS"? Any SANE individual should be able to see why it's called "fake news". Why twist his words at all? Does that make sense to you? Why twist it? Just report what he said WITHOUT the friggin spin, conjecture, or personal opinion, conspiracy theory, etc. It's IDIOTIC! Hearing that how many actually believe now that he did say white nationalist? That is why, to answer that remark.

Lastly... I can only speak for me. I'm not, nor have I ever kissed anyones ass, nor our President, for any reason whatsoever. The man has made many changes for the positive, in my opinion and should be applauded for such. Nothing more nothing less. Unemployment lowest in like 50 years, people are making more money, getting raises, our healthcare costs actually went down and that's BIG when you have many k.i.d.s. like I do. He cares about OUR country! That is what's MOST important. For example... I care to a certain degree about my neighbors and their c.h.i.l.d.r.e.n, but to my or my family's peril... HELL NO! Who would? You? Would you care more about your neighbors family than your own? Using that analogy, he wants OUR country to be even better and stronger than any other in the world. But, he's such an asshole and bigot, right? Funny! For being such a racist, all the other races (non whites) in this country are sure benefitting from his choices.
By kebmo at 05,Nov,18 05:03 other posts of kebmo 
Scorpio, I bet heads rolled for the breaches of security at the White House. Big heads.
By Scorps at 05,Nov,18 05:25 other posts of Scorps 
I hope they did! It actually happened a couple times if you remember? I was in D.C. when a man with a gun got near the white house. He got what he deserved, they shot and killed him. I never wanted to see a hair on Obama's head harmed. As he was OUR leader. Trump doesn't even get that modicum of respect. Anyone with that much hatred in their heart for another human being, to call for his death and many of the other vile garbage they say directly about him or his family, should be ashamed. You can disagree all day long without making it personal. It's sickening! BTW... You guys Leader 😁😁😁 He's kinda cute though 😉
By JustWill at 05,Nov,18 12:20 other posts of JustWill 
Scorpio, I don't want him dead, but he IS one of the most repulsive human beings in existence. (He's kind of like Paris Hilton in a suit.) The guy has no class. This is not a conclusion I arrived at just recently...that's been my view on Trump since as far back as I can remember.
I hear a lot of people complaining about Trump-bashing, but they all tend to overlook the fact that he is actually the Basher in Chief.
The President sets the tone, and the tone these days is pretty crappy...

By #562152 at 05,Nov,18 12:02
Scorpio69, the president is the president and the office demands respect. No argument with that. What you forget is that many of his accomplishments were started by the previous administration. You know whom I mean. The one refered by Mr Trump’s base as the chimp? Along with his wife? As far as other races benefiting, his demeanor and actions have set back race relations 50 yrs. I will give you that we,as a country, buy too many foreign made products. But, no one was complaining when the unions got lug nut installers $25 an hour contract at Ford. And similar in other industries so our manufacturers left for China and other countries. There’s been as many Republican presidents as democrats yet no one stopped the exodus of these manufacturers. Now, Mr Trump wants to fix it with tariffs. Poor idea. Tariffs don’t work. And lastly, we’ve always been the land of milk and honey. Where does he get off saying we need to make this country great again? When did we stopped being number one? Maybe he meant “not great for him and his rich cronies?”
By kebmo at 05,Nov,18 19:24 other posts of kebmo 
TWM and Phart, I STRONGLY disagree with your statements that the President and their office demand respect. Demand? Respect is earned and it is the opinion of myself and a millions of others that Mr. Trump is not a respectable person. He represents the Office of the President so by default the Office does not have the respect of millions of people either...for now.
By #562152 at 05,Nov,18 20:40
I'm sorry I didn't make myself clear. The office of the presidency demands and should get respect. Case in point, you do not address president Trump as Mr Asshole. The man on the other hand is and often described as an asshole.

By phart at 05,Nov,18 18:55 other posts of phart 
There is no clear black and white answer to alot of the questions ask here and else where.
But let me ask a question that I know will have different answers but it might help you think.
How many of you would fill the postion of President and take all the bullshit Trump has and still keep trying to fullfill the promises you made to the people that put you in office? Not many I bet. Most would either chicken out or cry "everybody hates me".
Trump has been given the least amount of respect by the media and folks that disagree with him than any other prez in our nations recent history. Obama got more respect that Trump.Bill Clinton was getting blow jobs from interns before meeting with important leaders from other countrys and he still gets respect.
I think Trump gets less respect because he does not hold back on how he feels and he has succeeded in life. Most folks that don't like him will give a long list of reasons, but deep down it is simple.They are jealous of his successe's.
I don't kiss Trumps ass. I just feel like he is trying to do what he promised us and is fighting a long hard fight while doing it.
I disagree with the parties view on net neurality and the E 15 gas crap but hell, we would be blown to hell by Rocket man by now if HIllary had got in.
By #562152 at 05,Nov,18 20:47
All presidents have their agenda and people that support him and people that don't. The rough way he pushes his ideas is one reason he gets little respect. He acts like a king instead as a president

By kebmo at 27,Oct,18 03:56 other posts of kebmo 
Gee I really hope that the 7,000 people from Honduras don't get into the US as refugees. I really don't think that the US could handle a population increase of 0.000021492%. That would be the same as 700 people coming to Canada.
By phart at 27,Oct,18 10:24 other posts of phart 
last count I heard was 14000.That included the MS13 members along for the trip. and honestly, no ,our systems are not designed to handle so many people.Each county has x amount of money and it is meant for the citizens of that county. not every other countrys rejects. WHy don't those people stand up and fight or why doesn't someone go down there and elimate the threat they claim to run from?
By kebmo at 27,Oct,18 14:04 other posts of kebmo 
You are making the same claims that some Canadians made before we welcomed 25,000 Syrians in 2015/16. "There are bad guys amongst them". Well we accepted them and they haven't overrun our country...yet.
I think the US should be more concerned about Americans killing Americans, not refugees. You know, like the terrorist that was arrested yesterday. American born Florida resident.
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By JustWill at 27,Oct,18 16:16 other posts of JustWill 
Any moment, some Trumpian nimrod will declare this, too, as a liberal plot to discredit Trump.

While we are on the subject of the Fucktard in Chief:
Trump actually said that the shootings in Pittsburgh have nothing to do with "Merica's gun laws and that, if an armed guard had been present at the synagogue, the deaths could have been prevented.
By phart at 27,Oct,18 16:37 other posts of phart 
Trump is correct a armed guard may have prevented that tragedy.
Just last week while eating breakfast there was about 10 people at a near by long table discussing church safety.Turns out the sheriff's department is coordinating efforts with church deacons to TRAIN church members how to carry,and use a firearm in a hostile situation.Yep,the very thing that threatens the members,is sadly the only tool that protect them. Unless you all want to stand out side with some Wasp spray maby?

I am starting to think perhaps we need to open a safe trail north thru the US to Canada and let those Hondurans go leach off your governments programs.Hell,some of the immigrants already here might join them and we would be rid of them! Instead of 14,000 you all might get a bonus crowd of 50,000?
Once leached dry,you all might see things different.
The Horn Of Plenty does have a bottom.
Kembo,I am glad you did add the word "YET" to your statement. At least I can rest assured knowing that YOU know the possibility is there for problems later.
I have a friend that lives about 3 hours away by interstate hwy. I went to visit shortly after 9-11 and we were out in the back yard. I saw yellow tape around a house up the hill. I ask why? He said 1 of the pilots of the crashed planes had came to the US and married a really fat,as in 350 pound woman,that lived there a couple years before.Police had it roped off for investigation. He said a week before he had spoke to the guy.Never had any problems or police calls. Just a average neighbor.Until that day.
It can and will sneak up on you.
By kebmo at 28,Oct,18 00:39 other posts of kebmo 
Maybe if the US tweeked the Second Amendment so there weren't so many guns in the US, Americans would stop being slaughtered by other Americans. Phart, Americans are the people you need to fear, not immigrants. I know you have stories about immigrants killing Americans but for every one of those, there are probably 100 about Americans killing each other.
Who slaughters chiidren in your schools? Americans. Who slaughtered people in multiple places of worship in the last five years? Americans.
Places of worship and schools shouldn't have to have armed guards, people shouldn't be shooting the people that are inside such places.
This DOES NOT happen in Canada on such a horrifying scale because we are not a country full of guns.
By phart at 28,Oct,18 10:02 other posts of phart 
Yes I know that the school killers are American citizens ok?
I think the main point you are missing is there is a bottom to the barrel of goodies the immigrants are coming her for,.
You have better sense than to think money grows on trees and grocerys come from out of the sky .

By JustWill at 28,Oct,18 16:55 other posts of JustWill 
Here in 'Merica, we love our guns more than we love our ch1ldren...
By phart at 28,Oct,18 23:17 other posts of phart 
You might love your guns more than your kids,but most love their kids more.That is why they have guns to defend them! DUH
don't put no "we" shit in there. We are not all Kooks!

if you do some googling you find little known stories all over of guns preventing a killing or whatever.But the media seldom covers those storys because it does not fit their agenda.
By JustWill at 29,Oct,18 09:31 other posts of JustWill 
Anyone who believes that the solution to gun vi0lence is to require armed guards at churches and schools, rather than to do something about how easy it is for the crazies to get their hands on a gun, is--most definitely--a "kook".
What other "civilized" country deals with this issue in that fashion?
By phart at 29,Oct,18 19:38 other posts of phart 
It would take decades to get all the guns gathered.What are we to do,just let the killing continue until people are taught to value life and liberty and quit killing each other with guns,knives and rocks?

By talk5s at 29,Oct,18 14:13 other posts of talk5s 
That's 'Muricah', Will. Gots ta says it jis lak one of dem suthernrs ta git it's FULL meanin'.
By phart at 29,Oct,18 19:40 other posts of phart 
And you don't have to talk redneck to us.We can read.We are not perfect,but we can read the constituion that says we can have guns to protect ourselves

By phart at 03,Nov,18 20:02 other posts of phart 
Lets put this in a differnt perspective.
Let's say a 1000 il1egal immigrants come to your town. They bring nothing but babies and empty stomachs.
Each day they walk around and take a can of soup from your cabinet,a coke from the fridge and the morning paper. They do this every day and leave nothing good in return. Is this ok with you?
Your k1d is sick and needs to go to the doctor.To pay his bill you have to let the phone company cut your phone off for a week until the next check comes. Mean while,a immigrant walks in,gets the care needed,and walks out talking on their free phone from your government. Is that ok with you?
You loose your job,and have been looking for 3 weeks. You see a ad in the paper and respond,only to find 1 of those imigrants has taken the job. Meanwhile you get a foreclosure notice in the mail.Is this ok with you?
I could go on, but I am trying to get you folks to look at this immigration thing from a different perspective than the "horn of plenty is full bring your many" attitude.
THis is 2018, not 1940. Things just can't work that way any more.

By admin at 29,Oct,18 07:00 other posts of admin 
You are missing the point. Mexico and Honduras made a packt 5 or more years ago that Mexico allows Honduras il1egal migrants to move freely through its territory as long as they do not intend to stay in Mexico but going to enter USA il1egally. Really, I'm not joking, it was on the news and it was official.

So it's not about 7000 people, it's about closing the channel through which constant flow of il1egal migrants is being siphoned into USA.
By talk5s at 29,Oct,18 14:26 other posts of talk5s 
How about 'give us you poor, give us your hungry', etc.?...I know. That was way back when...things were different. Got ya, Admin. Things ARE different now. So 'Muricah' kin fergit what made it AMERICA...
By admin at 29,Oct,18 14:54 other posts of admin 
100 years ago and before people moved to USA looking for opportunities to just work (and I do not mean employment). Now they move for employment, benefits and welfare. Do you understand the difference?

Also, I'm against all borders and citizenships at all. It was not me who made a welfare state out of USA. I'm only stating the obvious - if you open borders to USA, in half of a year you all will be living like in India.

And by the way, I'm not a resident of USA. I would be glad if I could come there without a visa. It's cheaper to fly via USA into many directions, but it requires a visa. And I'm not talking 10% cheaper, sometimes it's 3 times cheaper.
By talk5s at 29,Oct,18 15:24 other posts of talk5s 
And you are adding the evidence of what I stated in an earlier post on this page. Look further and you will see I stated human population is the real problem. I do understand the difference. So, please don't condescend to me. I ain't no country bumpkin jis fell of da hay wagon. I have lived outside the US for many years...Likely you and I see an ideal planet Earth...undivided by borders and race. Simply one planet, with ONE race...of humans that can see there are no differences in any of us. Except for countries and governments and what all racists color.
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By admin at 29,Oct,18 17:23 other posts of admin 
I'm not condescending, I just don't have a good feel of what I say in other languages. Honestly, I'm not even always good with my native language, I'm slightly autistic.

By kebmo at 29,Oct,18 15:50 other posts of kebmo 
talk5s, Give us your poor , give us your hungry as long as they're white.
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By JustWill at 29,Oct,18 16:09 other posts of JustWill 
You know, if these mass shooters started attacking yacht clubs and country clubs instead of schools and churches, you wouldn't be able to swing a dead cat without hitting a bunch of new gun regulations...
By kebmo at 29,Oct,18 16:17 other posts of kebmo 
JustWill, ain't that the truth?!
By phart at 29,Oct,18 19:21 other posts of phart 
Talk about KOOKS, I reckon you all are sitting around with your Wasp spray and 9-11 on speed dial right? When seconds count, the cops are minutes away!
When it was written,"give us your hungry and poor", that was in a time when people were still willing to WORK for what they was a attitude along the lines of John F Kennedys speach, "Ask not what your country can do you,but what you can for your country".BY the way,he was a democrat and said that! PRoves at 1 time the Democrat party had some level of inteligence. Damn shame it is shot to hell now.
Immigrants built this country with their bare hands,along with slaves. This shit going on now is equal to spitting on thier graves. Those folks worked for what they got.They were not able bodied,lazy ass people just wanting to ride the gravey train.BYw the way,My heritage is mostly German and Cherekee. None of my family was wealthy and I was the first to go to a college,even though it was only a 2 year degreee. Most never graduated.Couldn't ,they were busy working the fields and welding to put the food on the table.
They didn't come over here and expect the citizens to keep them up .
By JustWill at 29,Oct,18 22:34 other posts of JustWill 
It must be so horrible living every day in constant fear and paranoia...
By phart at 30,Oct,18 11:03 other posts of phart 
When you take your own safety seriously,and you keep your nose clean,as in stay out of dangerous neighborhoods and so forth, there is no need for fear or paranoia. You feel safe because you yourself take responsibility.
There lies the problem. You folks don't want to be responsible for want to be pampered and protected like chicks under the mother hens wings.That attitude is part of the reason why alot of these country's with gun control "mind control" didn't make it to the moon and so forth.We take chances,but we also take responsibility.

By phart at 30,Oct,18 11:24 other posts of phart 
Well,i just read that 5200 troops are headed to the border for "support roles" and to build tents to put the migrants in.Oh boy,so we are going to be feeding the bums after all.BUILD THE DAMN WALL!
China built a wall over 2000 years ago and it worked.Without all the red tape!
By kebmo at 04,Nov,18 00:32 other posts of kebmo 
Where is that wall anyway? It should be built by now.
By phart at 05,Nov,18 18:59 other posts of phart 
To many Rhino's in the way. Rhino as in "republican in name only."
People of his own party won't help him get the job done.
Funny thing though,I just saw today on this damn #$(#*$ "smart" phone screen that Obama was stumping for a senetor that SUPPORTS the wall! HUM!
I dispise this new "smart" phone. It has something on it called "newsroom" It is more like "Trumpbash2018" channel. I will be asking about how to get rid it when I go pay my bill next week.

By #562152 at 05,Nov,18 12:07
I agree with you Kebmo. No country can handle so many toilet attendants and tomato pickers. And all the diseases they carry but don’t make them sick could devastate the Southwest. All the coyotes and prairie rats could disappear

By kebmo at 30,Oct,18 16:45 other posts of kebmo 
Oh my God the US is being invaded! Not from their arch enemy to the north, Canada but by 7,000 homeless, unarmed men, women and ch1ldren walking thousands of miles to take over!!
Grab y'er guns Ma 'n Pa they're a comin'!!

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By JustWill at 30,Oct,18 16:49 other posts of JustWill 
Some of those so-called "ch1ldren" are actually Middle-Easterners and terrorists in disguise.
But, never fear! Trump will just lock them all in wire cages like he did with the last batch...
By phart at 31,Oct,18 10:11 other posts of phart 
I am thinking trying to sort out the legit asylum seekers from the evil folks would be like separating fly shit from black pepper.Very difficult.I hope no one gets hurt,but I do wish folks would fix their problems at home instead of bringing them here.
Think of it as your Broth@r-in-law and **** coming to live with you and them not having a job and also having marital problems and 3 screaming babies.

By #562152 at 01,Nov,18 13:34
the US conservative movement has almost entirely divorced itself from mainstream institutions, norms, and standards, developing its own media, think tanks, legal scholars, and historians — a hermetically sealed ecosystem of knowledge, news, and information in which nonsense and conspiracy theories flourish.
In other words, the hicks are taking over.
By kebmo at 02,Nov,18 00:57 other posts of kebmo 
MAYBE.... Trump could consider building a wall along the border to keep them disease ridden vermin out...all that smallpox and leprosy. He's had two years; I wonder why he hasn't built a wall yet. It's probably Obama's fault.
By phart at 02,Nov,18 11:39 other posts of phart 
Well,until recently I had only heard the "don't let the bedbugs bite" as a joke. Since the immmigration thing has taken off,the last 5 years or so have been differnt.Motels having issues with bedbugs from immigrants.
The county I live in has problems with the ambulances carrying bed bugs.The local firedepartment just spent 5000 dollars on equipment to sterilize fire suits and clothes to prevent the volunteers from accidently carrying home bed bugs to their familys.I know this because my vote was the deciding vote on spending the money. This was not a problem 20,or even 10 years ago.
The wall has not happened because of some Rino's not supporting their President. Republican in Name only.
By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 09:54
Phart, this is laughable even for you. Are you aware of those flying things called airplanes? Did you know that the majority of i,llegal immigration flies in and overstays their visitor visas? And most discriminating bedbugs would rather fly than track through the southwest portion of North America
By phart at 03,Nov,18 11:09 other posts of phart 
You mean a machine that flys by it's self? WOW!
Yes I am aware of aeroplanes.
BUt that does not change the bed bug issue. They come from backward countrys that don't stay clean.We got rid of them for the most part here in the US a long time ago.
By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 12:38
Not really. New York hotels are loaded with them
By phart at 03,Nov,18 20:07 other posts of phart 
Another good reason to stay away i guess.Yuks,

By talk5s at 29,Oct,18 14:55 other posts of talk5s 

Wonder if all these photos will post?
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Are there ANY similarities?????????????????????????????
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NOT sayin' trumpily bumpily be Hitler. There can ONLY be one of him But, there can be someone very similar, that does things in a less MURDEROUSLY way. Who knows? How will this all end up looking @ what has happened in just 2 years...Wake the fuck up all you dumbass Trumpian IDIOTS! ...History is a MEAN bitch. And you are joining a very similar history...
By phart at 29,Oct,18 19:36 other posts of phart 
You know,i typed a response but if you can't look at the obvious and see that TRUMP is not HITLER, what the fuck is the use of trying to explain it!?
By JustWill at 29,Oct,18 22:37 other posts of JustWill 
Um...he actually said that he wasn't saying that Trump was Hitler. (Do you actually read these posts before you start typing?)
What he DID say is that Trump is a lot LIKE Hitler.
If YOU can't see the similarities, what the fuck is the use of trying to explain it?
By phart at 30,Oct,18 10:58 other posts of phart 
Hehe,yes I did see it but I felt he was implying it.
I get some of it,the flaunting and such but still,We are better off than we would have been with the Hillary.
By talk5s at 01,Nov,18 15:03 other posts of talk5s 
Tee f'in' HEE...Here I beee! To 'splain myself. First, even tho I done sayed 'History repeats itself' It's never EXACTLY the same as before It may get to a VERY similar and bad place again, but it keeps you guessin' about exactly how that will happen. Makes life on Planet Earth with a shitload of giant IDIOTS fun!! Did I mention that Trump ala Dump is one of the BIGGEST...and...DUMBEST ever to hold office? ...Here's the OTHER fun and COMPLETELY historical part...'They' deleted pictures of dear sweet Adolf standing EXACTLY like Trumply Frumply with his arms folded and looking just like a (dangerous) lil school boy with LOTS of weapons at his disposal...Censorship is the beginning of a downhill slide into HISTORY...Try and look out 20 years and imagine what it will hold for this country. Can you say the US will be BETTER for Trump?...If so, join the LEGIONS of dumbasses that cannot see beyond their nose.
By phart at 02,Nov,18 11:43 other posts of phart 
Censorship is a problem,regardless of your politics,it is a violation of free speech.
By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 09:46
There's a lot to be said for shutting some people's mouth even if it is a violation of his free speech

By phart at 30,Oct,18 11:48 other posts of phart 
Trump is referring to himself as a Nationalist. Sadly of course the liberal media wants to steer their agenda so they put "white" in front of it to make it racist to want the country you lead to be the best in the world. What the fuck is wrong with people that they do not want our country to be on top?
Do you not want what is best for your country and your neighbors?

noun: nationalist; plural noun: nationalists

a person who advocates political independence for a country.
"a Scottish nationalist"

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By JustWill at 30,Oct,18 12:20 other posts of JustWill 
I'm not hearing anyone adding "white" when they refer to Trumpian Nationalism (except for the alt-right whack-a-dos who SAY that liberals are saying it). What they are reminding people is that Hitler was a "Nationalist" too.

1. often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
2 : a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control
early instances of army fascism and brutality
By phart at 30,Oct,18 16:37 other posts of phart 
Sadly I heard it alot the other day on cnn and another news cast
By JustWill at 30,Oct,18 16:47 other posts of JustWill 
What they are saying is that Trump needs to publicly repudiate
"white" nationalists, neo-Nazis, and white supremacists.
Of course, he will never publicly do such a thing because those groups make up such a huge part of his voting base...
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By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 09:24
Phart How many people do you know that go around saying they don't want this country to be on top? While we are at it, name one country that tops ours. Nationalism, like JustWill stated, is associated with people like Hitler and Musolini. They, too, championed nationalism, but, they used it to go to war, suppress the people, eliminate enemies. This was not for the betterment of their country but for their own benefits of power. Trump wants this. He wants power above and beyond the presidency. Calling himself a nationalists plays to the baser instincts of his supporters. A group of people that hid their bigoted ideas in a politically correct world. Now, they get to spout their hatred by hiding behind a president that spouts the same hatred "for the good of the country "

By JustWill at 02,Nov,18 12:48 other posts of JustWill 
In a typical "everything is about ME" rant, Trump complained that those two "maniacs"--the nail bomber and the synagogue shooter--ruined the "momentum" of the upcoming election by taking the news' focus away from politics.
Once again, the Asshat in Chief shows his complete lack of empathy...
By kebmo at 03,Nov,18 00:49 other posts of kebmo 
How fucking inconsiderate of them!! Please do not murder people while it's inconvenient for me!!!

By #562152 at 03,Nov,18 09:28
This is a man that gets up in the morning and asks the Allmighty what's in it for him that day.

By kebmo at 29,Oct,18 03:05 other posts of kebmo 
Why would someone in the USA think that health insurance should NOT cover a pre-existing condition? So your baby is born with a heart defect and you have to sell your house to pay the medical bills?
You can't get insurance because of your cancer?
Am I misunderstanding how this works?
By admin at 29,Oct,18 06:54 other posts of admin 
In countries with socialized health care your baby may die while waiting for the surgery. Or may be a commission decides it does not worth to save your baby Don't be delusional, it only works nice while the society can afford it, when economical problems start it shows its ugly side.

By admin at 29,Oct,18 07:06 other posts of admin 
Also, I fail to understand the logic that if you got unlucky other people have to save you. They may if they want to, but they certainly don't have to. I bet you do not expect to be resurrected in case if you fall by accident, break your neck and die. I.e. you do not think universe owes something to you, but you think other people owe you. Why?
By kebmo at 29,Oct,18 15:26 other posts of kebmo 
"Thirty-two of the thirty-three developed nations have universal health care, with the United States being the lone exception."
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I was asking specifically about the USA because it's a big election issue. The USA could certainly afford it. Obama instituted it and Trump tried to take it out, and failed thanks to John McCain.

I don't feel I'm being delusional, I feel I'm being compassionate. It is not unreasonable for Americans to want Universal Healthcare.

If I fall and break my neck in Canada (and live) I will be taken to the nearest hospital and receive all the healthcare I need and I will not receive a bill when I'm done (except for the ambulance trip). All Canadians pay for this service through our taxes and personally, I'll gladly pay.
By admin at 29,Oct,18 17:18 other posts of admin 
There is nothing free there is only other's people money. If your country run out of it, you will be taken to the hospital too, but I'm afraid they won't have much except anti-septic and aspirin. I lived in socialist countries at their late stage of development, I've experienced it first-handed when I had to buy everything for my mother and not in the hospital, I had to find it on a black market. Fuck, we had to bring even our own sheets there, since they did not have any.

USA healthcare costs are inflated at least 3 times as it is already. Nationalization will only make it worse. They will be siphoning state's (i.e. people's) money to private contractors while being irresponsible and inefficient. It's a curse of all mixed socialist-capitalist economies.

If anything, they should make it less regulated, not more.
By kebmo at 29,Oct,18 18:08 other posts of kebmo 
I don’t know about other countries’ healthcare but Canada’s isn’t private or for profit. It’s run by Provincal governments not by companies trying to make a buck off my Mom’s treatment. Of course the system isn’t perfect but it works for Canadians and other countries.
By phart at 29,Oct,18 19:16 other posts of phart 
Admin,you are correct, when you don't make your own way and you use resources from others, when it runs out you are without.
People over 45 here in the US are used to working and getting the things they need as compenstaion.Salary,insurance, retirement.It is the lazy ass young people that want to sit back and text and go jump off into shallow water or run with the damn bulls and we pay the bill that is part of the problem.
Government regulations on medicine is another problem. Millions have to be spent to get medicine on the market and God forbid rubbing some of it on a rat's ass to make sure it is safe.
And medical degrees cost to much,so doctors salarys are expected to be high to pay all that back.

As with everything else, the liberal government wants to "fix" the wrong end of the problem.
If asprin came out now it would be 400 bucks a pill due to government regulations.
By mr_blue at 30,Oct,18 12:20 other posts of mr_blue 
There is no liberal government... trump is president and the GOP hold both the senate and the house...
Trump and the GOP had how many years to come up with a replacement for Obamacare?
Problem is taxes,if big corporations paid their fair due in taxes there's is enough to go around,but the top 1% don't like that...
Corporations hold the power,they have all the politicians in their pockets..look at how many ex lobbyists are working in the present administration....
It's nothing new,but trying to blame just liberals for healthcare prices is can argue against the pros and cons of healthcare or a single payer system..
And regulations are for your benefit,you don't want to take an aspirin that cures a headache but makes you puke your rectum out at the same time do you ?

Did you pay for your schooling other than college ?
You got a hand out,did you drink clean water? Another handout?did you use public roads? Another handout...
Someone will always pay, that's why taxes are supposed to collected,everyone pays,everyone the elected officials can actually have the money to fulfill the pie crust promises they make...

Amazes me that military spending will always increase,yet there's not enough money for infrastructure....

I thought trump was going to sort out everything,so you saying if aspirin came out during Trump's presidency would be 400 bucks is an interesting comment...

By phart at 18,Oct,18 23:47 other posts of phart 
Why hasn't someone proposed legalizing prostitution yet?
I mean really,police women would not have to dress goofy and get out on the streets to entrap men. They could sit around computer desk and try to find a republican that failed to pay a parking ticket 40 years ago or something productive.Ok so that was a bit over the top for sarcasm.

They could tax pussy just like anything else.

Just picture it,a whole street downtown with buildings full of willing women, no need to beg,no need to bribe,no need to do without,just look for the best price for the service you want and walk right in.
By sinanff47 at 19,Oct,18 00:44 other posts of sinanff47 
Fifteen or more countries have legal prostitution:

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By leopoldij at 19,Oct,18 17:20 other posts of leopoldij 
It's legal in many places.

By talk5s at 23,Oct,18 14:15 other posts of talk5s 
Prostitution will likely go the way of legal MaryJane. Once the government finds out how much 'green' they make pussy will be soon to follow! And then other drugs?
By phart at 23,Oct,18 16:52 other posts of phart 
Well at least the fat,lonely,grey haired,short penis-ed,and old guys like me could get some for a change! Quick oral service 20 bucks plus tax = 23.35. Full penetration, 50 bucks plus tax, etc.
By leopoldij at 24,Oct,18 12:21 other posts of leopoldij 
You're right. It should be legal everywhere. Prostitution has been with humans for thousands of years. The reason given for being 1llegal is to protect women. However, no matter how many laws against it, it won't stop. In fact, if it's legal there is more protection for women.
By phart at 29,Oct,18 01:20 other posts of phart 
Can you imagine for instance,the reduction in domestic vio1ence alone? Men could just go down town if the old lady didn't want to.
Less drinking and doping because lonely people of both sexes could just go get exactly what they are lacking,good SEX.
That 1 thing is what alot of people are lacking that causes them to latch onto other crutches like dope and drinkin.
You could go fuck as long as you can or as much as you can afford to,and drive home tired and go to bed and s1eep well and not endanger anyone.
By leopoldij at 29,Oct,18 17:08 other posts of leopoldij 
Absolutely. As long as safe sex is practiced,
providing it for a fee, legally, safely,
regulated, accepted, then it should be
no problem. As you point out, it would solve
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 People argue that prostitution increases trafficking of women. But if it were legal, then there would be more control and it would be easier to find those who abuse women.  If one could go to a legal prostitute why would he choose to risk it and go to 1llegal ones?

I heard today, on the radio, that the famous Austrian composer Anton Brückner was very sad because no woman ever wanted to be with him or marry him.  Probably, he never had sex.  He actually drove himself mad and ended up in a mental clinic.  If he could go to a prostitute, if he could have sex from time to time, I bet he would have been happier. But it's not only that prostitutes were not available, it's also that it was totally against the society to go with any of them.  He was very shy and could not attract any women.  If he was more aggressive and self- confident he would not have had problems getting laid.  So, there you go.  Society punishes those who, for one reason or another, can't get sex. And they need it.  Society is cruel.  Legalizing prostitution and, moreover, making it socially acceptable to go with them, would alleviate many problems.

By talk5s at 29,Oct,18 14:22 other posts of talk5s 
May I please settle this back and forth about 'caravans', borders and just exactly WHO is going WHERE?! It 'be' simple. Even fer simpltons NONE of it is about borders. NONE of it is about politics. NONE of it is about countries...It's ALL about population. On a Planet that cannot support any more of 'US'!...1 Billion of 'us' in the year 1800...7 + Billion of us now!! Do the math. 1800 years to get to 1 Billion. 218 years to ad 6 BILLION!!!...Face it, we be rats. We be a plague. We 'be'. Dat be funny!...But here be da latest...We be SCARED...

By tinydickslut at 27,Oct,18 23:41 other posts of tinydickslut 
You have to admit: No one knows how to stop his train.

This president is the perfect con man. He can spin anything to his advantage. He can contradict himself in the same sentence. And his cult goes along with anything he says. He is impervious to facts, truth, law or principle.

A nut mails a bomb = It's a stunt by the democrats. His twitter popularity declines = Someone erased his followers.

By JustWill at 24,Oct,18 12:28 other posts of JustWill 
Idiotic Trumpian quote of the day: "There’s no proof of anything.There’s no proof of anything. But they could very well be."
Once again, the guy just makes shit up and proclaims it as "truth"--without any grounding in reality.
That being the case, it is "truth" that the bombs sent to Clinton, Obama, and CNN today were most definitely sent by Trump himself.
Sure, there is no "proof", but it "could very well be".
Trump is a bomb-sending terrorist...
By Scorps at 24,Oct,18 12:33 other posts of Scorps 
By phart at 25,Oct,18 17:18 other posts of phart 

He didn't a bit more send those bombs than bernie sanders did.But rest assured the media's talking heads are blaming him!
It is just some wacko kook out there trying to make things worse before the election.
Who in a semi right mind thinks Hillary Clinton walks out to the mail box or the porch in her bathrobe and bed room shoes to get the mail? "AH, I got a package from someone that loves me,let me open ----BOOOM!".
IF by some small chance the damn bombs worked and they got in the hands of someone that opened them a innocent employee would be hurt or killed.The lazy ass politician would be unaffected.
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well it appears they caught the kook, trump supporter and of course the media is all over it.Just as it was planned.

By phart at 27,Oct,18 16:39 other posts of phart 
Well, they didn't Arrest Trump for sending the bombs.They did arrest a guy living in his van that apparently has been a unstable kook for a long time.

By phart at 27,Oct,18 10:26 other posts of phart 
You know,after watching the libtards on tv the other night saying that Trump did not say enough in response to the mail bombs I just wondered,"what could Trump do correctly that would please the libtards"?
IF he hung himself on the white house lawn the libtards would complain he did not give the media time to set up cameras. IF he invaded Mexico and made them the 51'st state so they would not have to move up here, the libtards would complain.
THere is NOTHING he could do that some libtard would not complain about.

By kebmo at 27,Oct,18 05:06 other posts of kebmo 
“A blizzard of bullshit.”
-Pundint on Bill Maher referring to Trump’s campaigning style.

By kebmo at 24,Oct,18 08:15 other posts of kebmo 
Hyperbole is my least favourite word of the day. It's used by Trump supporters as a synonym for lies. They are not the same thing.
By leopoldij at 24,Oct,18 12:22 other posts of leopoldij 
The opposite of hyperbole is hypobole.

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I love it!
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This clip was shown on Jimmy Kimmel and Jimmy's comment was, did we notice that only the white dogs obeyed.

By leopoldij at 21,Oct,18 06:28 other posts of leopoldij 
Indeed, Trump thinks he's talking to dogs rather than humans. The funny thing is that all those poor humans don't realize that they're been seen as dogs by their supreme leader.
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By spermkiss at 18,Oct,18 18:24 other posts of spermkiss 
Concerning the recent disappearance of journalist Jamal Khashoggi while visiting the Saudi consulate in Istanbul, it has often been said that the USA has a good relationship with Saudi Arabia. One of the reasons for this is the close friendship between President Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Crown Prince Mohammad bin Salman. I expect that they are indeed good friends, one might even say "special friends", if you know what I mean.
By phart at 18,Oct,18 18:57 other posts of phart 
I think the "friendship" goes back further than any Trump relative.I think it goes back to the first Iraq war when the Saudi's and Kuwaiti's found out we would be a cheap police forse for them. If we stopped buying their oil,they would pay Iraq to bomb us probably.
By spermkiss at 20,Oct,18 16:37 other posts of spermkiss 
I know that. Indeed the relationship between the USA and Saudi Arabia goes back at least to 1932, which is ten years before I was born. But as has been said more than once, cozying up with the Saudis is making a deal with the devil. They are not nice people.

I mention the possibility of an intimate liaison between Jared Kushner and Mohammad bin Salman for the purpose of humor.
By huxley999 at 20,Oct,18 17:47 other posts of huxley999 
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The best explanation I've ever seen of why the West finds itself saddled with such an unsavoury "ally". Lots of other good stuff too.

By leopoldij at 21,Oct,18 06:26 other posts of leopoldij 
You got the name of the country wrong. It's called The Dictatorship of Saudi Arabia. It's one of the worst dictatorships in the world. The reason that the US has a good relationship with it is because the US makes money from it. The other, equally terrible dictatorship, North Korea, is in bad terms with the US because there's no way that the US can make money from them. Ergo, when you hear that democracy .... oh, ok, I'm not going to say they obvious, I'll let you draw the conclusion.

By leopoldij at 18,Oct,18 19:55 other posts of leopoldij 
I grab pussy like Trump

By kebmo at 18,Oct,18 21:45 other posts of kebmo 
You had permission.
By phart at 18,Oct,18 23:48 other posts of phart 
And do we know 100% that Trump didn't? Those women wanted up the ladder didn't they?

By kebmo at 18,Oct,18 00:21 other posts of kebmo 
I'm surprised that Trump hasn't said a word (that I know of) about the legalization of cannabis in Canada. I bet he hates it. I foresee a lot of cannabis tourists in the future.
It is legal to smoke pot in all National Parks because when you're camping, it is considered a temporary home.
By phart at 18,Oct,18 10:28 other posts of phart 
More than likely Trump is looking at the situation as is most working class Americans."what a bunch of nuts".
You know in Colorado and the other states that can sell weed here in the US, the dealers can not put the money in a US FDIC insured bank because Thankfully the Feds still consider it **** money and would seize it!.
Car wrecks have increased in Colorado.
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Trump and anyone else with any sense at all would take a second look at all this and shake their heads.
By #562152 at 18,Oct,18 11:30
a majority of Americans approve the legalization of "weed" in Canada and wish it would happen in the USA,too. Alcohol and cigarettes are legal. They are just as damaging as weed, why not legalize it, tax it, and stop wasting time and resources trying to police it?
By phart at 18,Oct,18 18:58 other posts of phart 
Why not teach the young not to use it in the first place? As for all the "crutches" that people use like liqueur and weed.A permanent solution.Educate away the need and desire for it.

By kebmo at 18,Oct,18 14:48 other posts of kebmo 
Phart the people of Canada have decided that it's more important to get the real criminals behind bars, the ones with guns, and not worry about Bob down the street who's having a toke after a hard day at work. "Bob" will be buying his pot from a licenced seller and not a dealer who's a trickle down member of the Mafia. His pot will be taxed and the tax money will benefit schools and hospitals because Canada's universal medical really is expensive.
You see Phart, Bob has been having a toke after work for years, it's just where he gets it that's changed. The pot sold in your neighbourhood, and it IS being sold there, is profiting the Mafia and whatever thugs run the racket and it's not going to go away. Your prisons are full of non violent pot users in part because they are for profit prisons and the owners want them full of anybody yet your chiidren are being murdered daily in their classrooms and nobody seems to give a flying fuck about it. Where are your priorities Phart? Killing chiidren by the hundreds every year is OK but smoking a joint after work is the crime of the century?
Do you know about the opioid crisis? People are dying in the streets of the world, including Canada, and that is THE real problem that we need to take care of.
So the bottom line Phart is that it's just not worth the while of police and courts to fight a fight that is unwinnable and futile. Most Canadian citizens and politicians are OK with the change so we did it and you can be sure that other states will do it too. Get used to it.
By phart at 18,Oct,18 18:54 other posts of phart 
Uh forgive me but there is a flaw in your thinking.
It didn't stop when Prohibition was lifted.
The mountains are full of stills to this day making moonshine,and from what I understand the moonshiners are NOT paying any taxes. People buy it because it is better quality and the government does not get taxes off it.
And do you know why the government does not like moonshiners? Because they don't pay taxes.
Why is pot legal in your country now? Taxes.
Will it stop the unlawfully sold weed? No, the unlawful weed will be cheaper and plentiful and folks will be growing it at home and mislabeling it and so forth.
Only time will help you understand the Pandora's box you have opened.
Mafia,Do you HONESTLY think the Mafia is going to just wither up and blow away like yesterdays fart? NO, they will just sell more crack,more cocaine,and who knows what else.The damn Mafia is MUCH more powerful than any government and in some sense has better morals than our government. Remember who came up with the soup kitchen first? Al Capone.Google it.
Yes, short term profits for your government.But long term dope heads dependent on your government later.A BAD tradeoff.
Best I can remember the gal I grew up with that turned out to be my former girlfriend, her first use of drugs was weed,then it was not enough,and she went on to other stuff.
The market for the stronger stuff will bring the Mafia to the top once again. And the government will be faced with a much larger monster to try to cage.
By kebmo at 18,Oct,18 21:47 other posts of kebmo 
Of course Phart, you're absolutely right, as usual but just one question that I've asked you twice and you haven't answered.
Where did you find the "facts" about impaired accidents and workplace injuries will likely increase tenfold because of the legalization of cannabis?
By phart at 18,Oct,18 23:03 other posts of phart 
10 fold may be stretching it a bit,but damn,I forget only "facts" are acceptable here and not education by observation.By the way i posted a link to colorado's accident rates right up there? did you check it?
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This 1 pisses me off because if someone goes to work high,they should NOT collect if they are hurt because of it.

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this link can lead to better understanding of how some folks will downplay the role of pot in a accident.Which causes the stats you or I would use in a argument to be incorrect or biased or hard to find.

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I can provide more if need be.
edit,here is 1 that will help with the tax revenue,
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overall crime, the report said, went up by 11 percent in Colorado between 2013 and 2016, and in the state's biggest city, Denver, crime rose by 17 percent. Despite promises that marijuana sales would generate major tax revenue, only 0.8 percent of the state's budget was paid for by pot taxes.
Now that is less than 1 percent.Are the lives lost worth that lousy .8 %>? I mean really.

By the way,would any of you want a ems worker or a fireman responding to a call at your home high on pot?
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I was just eating breakfast awhile ago with some policeman and at another table,a nurse in a ER.
The Er nurse said during her shift they get 3 to 5 per night of heroin od's. The 1's they are able to talk to once the emergency is under control, yep,they started out with pot,it was not enough and they moved up.
Not as many as you would think come up saying pain meds led to it as the media wants you to believe.Could it be the liberal media steering opinion? Hum.

Pot is not the biggest issue locally. It is heroin and a lot of folks are not making it to the hospital after they od. Actually the next county over is number 1 in the state for heroin od.
Sadly, the cops told me they and the ambulance folks will respond to a od, and give the narcon, some one will call a hour later from the same address and need the narcon AGAIN.
They had 1 person that did it 6 times in 24 hours!!!

Meth, they said the Mexicans are importing it now because it is cheaper and the fact the folks here can't get all the stuff to make it.
I ask about dwi and the cops told me if a person fly's in from a state that pot is legal to smoke and they rent a car and they are pulled and found impaired,it is a dwi and they will be dealt with.
They did tell me that during a traffic stop or something the pot head is calmer and easier to arrest and control than a meth or heroin addict.
They also said that due to the better economy **** use in general is DOWN from what it was during the last recession.
Strange,I would have thought it the other way around?

By #562152 at 12,Oct,18 13:06
Florida, Georgia, and the Carolina's towns are devastated by hurricane Michael and Trump is having lunch with West. Is there no way to get rid ourselves of this joke of a president???
By phart at 12,Oct,18 18:47 other posts of phart 
I think all the areas have be declared disaster and the federal money is freed up for use.Alot of stuff like the national guard and such was already activated before the storm.So other than having his limo or helicopter fly him around in every bodys way,not much else he can do. Probably in a couple days he will make a appearance and shake some hands.
By kebmo at 12,Oct,18 19:12 other posts of kebmo 
Shake hands and toss paper towel while telling the crowd how wonderful he is.
By #562152 at 12,Oct,18 20:40
That's about right,
By phart at 18,Oct,18 10:29 other posts of phart 
Again,what the hell is wrong with passing out paper towels? Would you rather he tossed condoms?
I mean really? What people need is help cleaning up and rebuilding.Paper towels can be used to clean mold and mildew and be burned to rid of the germs for good.
By #562152 at 18,Oct,18 11:25
Nothing wrong, but, you missed the point. As a leader, he should have been discussing how FEMA was being directed to start the help Puerto Rico needed. He could have been in a soup kitchen giving out food. Food and shelter are the things survivors need. Paper towels combined with his insensitive remarks and lack of action "because it's an island" is poor leadership
By phart at 18,Oct,18 19:10 other posts of phart 
Well I will agree with you as far as it would great community relations if Trump was able to serve in a soup kitchen,or even sit down and eat with them.And perhaps later as a former president he could do that. I think the bigger picture is the security risk of exposing him to open environments.
As for Puerto Rico,those poor folks need some help,to move off that damn island and to a safer place to live.
Humans and their structures can not stand on a tiny island that is surrounded by a huge ocean and expect to survive. The constant rebuilding is costly,the death toll is untolerable.
It is more logical to help those people pack and leave instead of rebuilding and rebuilding and etc.
And I can't help but remember a few weeks ago about 6 semi trailers of "aid" were found abandoned in a parking lot.Some it spoiled and ruined,the remainder was to be sent there. I am also reminded of the pallets of tarps and building materials that are rotting in the sun down there.
I also read the stock holders report from 1 of the major power company's that sent trucks and men down there to fix the power grid. All the tourist dollars that come into that place must go into someones pocket because the power grid was very outdated and about impossible to fix.My neighbor went on a mission trip down there. They built a small school. Went back later,the school was GONE and there were mulitable little "huts" built from the material.

By 71andstillup at 06,Oct,18 23:49 other posts of 71andstillup 
We are told to believe women. Belief is an act of faith. When there is no evidence the accused is as believable as the accuser. Why should we believe either one.
By #562152 at 07,Oct,18 11:42
If our opinion is asked for, then, you have no choice, it's made for you. If you say,"I don't believe either one of you." then you are voting for the accused. If you believe the accuser or the accused also gives a definite answer. If you are really asking why you should believe a woman that she was sexually **** or harassed, then consider that she is admitting that either someone put his hands in a very private place and was not able to stop him,,,or that she was made uncomfortable by another person. Either way, you really think every woman that comes forward is lying? Yes, I bet there's women that are that devious, but not the majority. However, If you are 71yrs old or older or even in your 50's then you know that women have been seen "asking for it". Now, they are coming out of the woodwork due to the metoo movement and others and many people, mostly men, think that these women are all fake.
By phart at 07,Oct,18 19:01 other posts of phart 
Not putting stock in what either party says is not offering support for either party.But the accused useally rides away if all opionoins are the result of that same mindset of not putting stock in either parties words.
Complicated,no real answer.As long as there is more that 1 person,there will be more that 1 opionion.
Kinda like joke about the lone survivor of a plane crash on a small island. When they found him he had built a makeshift town with 2 churches. When ask why 2 churches , he said he didn't like the opionions of the folks in the first 1! Split personality!
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By 71andstillup at 10,Oct,18 00:17 other posts of 71andstillup 
Your use of absolutes undermines your argument. I cannot defend your absolutes. When there are accusations and denials the accuser has to provide evidence.

A majority implies there is a minority. So men are falsely accused? What standard do we use to determine who is telling the truth and who is not telling the truth?
By #562152 at 10,Oct,18 09:35
These days, after the media (mostly TV police shows) informed people how important it is to report a crime as fast as possible, Women report rapes and other battery as soon as possible. The police maintain an unbroken time line of the evidence as it's processed. In a r.ape, it goes from the time the police meet the victim to the time a medical entity verifies physical evidence of semen in her body, bruises in her body and description of perpetrator. All fine and good. If they catch up to the perpetrator he's going in. But, what if the victim was assaulted 30 yrs back, and because of fear or shame or whatever, she did not report it? Now, who knows why, she decides to come forward. Let us say, she recognized her attacker or is no longer fearful or ashamed. She has no proof, just her memories. Should she just keep quiet because "It's been 30 yrs, there's no concrete proof, and boys will be boys"?,,,If that was your daughter/wife/mother/s.ister, what would you say???
By phart at 10,Oct,18 10:37 other posts of phart 
I am not disagreeing that it would be a difficult thing to deal with but, with no evidence,there is not much of a case.
Perhaps it is a situation it is best to let a sleeping dog lay? Or perhaps our health care system needs to have something setup to help women in this situation deal with the mental stress ?
I mean,1 perspective could be,if the man r@ped me 30 years ago,what will he do to me now if he gets the chance to catch me in a dark corner? Am I willing to risk being killed?
Another perspective could be,a simple case of mistaken Id. OH there is the guy that groped me 30 years ago! Wham. And that guy might have been 400 miles away using a chainsaw at the time she claims he was groping her boob.
Slippery slope,slipper slope. Makes alot of us afraid to unzip our pants.
By #562152 at 10,Oct,18 10:50
Here's solution that you will like, phart, since no one believes me this guy raped me, but, I know, positively, he did, why don't I buy an unregistered gun,,ambush him on a dark night when no one is watching, and do a vigilante act. I pump 3 bullets into his brain,,throw away the gun, and go home. I didn't do it,,there's no proof.
By phart at 10,Oct,18 19:54 other posts of phart 
Well 3 bullets,unless you collect the shells,fingerprints,yada yada.Some evidence.
But in reality,if you up and shot a r@peist and got him off the street,most folks could not care did your part to clean the gene pool.

By phart at 12,Oct,18 10:11 other posts of phart 
Let me put a different twist on this.
Let's say a gay man runs a large company and a couple women not really knowing he is gay try to seduce him to get a job or a promotion.
Ok,let's say this poor fellow has night mares and so forth and suffers mental aquish.
20 years later 1 of those women is up for election for govenor of their state.This gay guy comes out saying she tried to seduce him for a job.
He would not have any more evidence than a woman would to prove his case.Nor would the women have any evidence to prove themselves innocent.
With the tables turned, and this new logic of women never lieing about sexual things, would the gay guy get sent sailing out the door head first or would anyone listen to him?

By leopoldij at 09,Oct,18 10:02 other posts of leopoldij 
Nobody told you to believe in women.
In fact, you should believe in nobody except on facts.
Belief and faith are words that only idiots make use of.

However, it is a fact that, thanks to societal structure and religions, women have been suffering much more than men. This is not to say that there are no women who take advantage of anything in order to promote themselves.

When it comes to the choice of a single person who is to be the judge of the court, then this person should be free of ALL suspicions. Even if there's a 0.01 % chance that this person has harassed women (and the chance is at least that in the case of Kavanaugh), then this person should not be chosen. Pass this person. Make another choice.

But, in an era where the thugs rule, of course the simple rationale above is ignored.
By phart at 09,Oct,18 19:59 other posts of phart 
As I have said,find this "clean" person, once the media gets done with them, they will be just as dirty as the rest.
There are no perfect humans.All have flaws,all have done "wrong" since I can't use "sinned" as you would immediately assume I was being religious again.
I doubt most folks Knighted by the Queen are perfect enough to make it thru the media's bashing and the liberal sifter.

Name a person that would be a good supreme court justice. Just 1 name. Then the rest of us can sit back and pick them apart.

By kebmo at 11,Oct,18 23:12 other posts of kebmo 
What happened to Rudy Giuliani? He hasn't been heard from in about a month. Did I miss the tweet where he got fired?
By phart at 12,Oct,18 10:07 other posts of phart 
If I was Trump,I would have pinched his head off right above his ankles for some of what he said.I had no idea that man would mess things up so bad.
I was under the impression that he was 1 of the better mayors of New york.Some of them,like the 1 outlawying a large drink,seem a bit nutty.

By -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- at 11,Oct,18 23:58 other posts of -Y-_DemonXer_-Y- 
Yep, not touching this with a ten foot pole....... (that "flogging a dead horse" emoticon is pretty awesome though - props to whoever created that)
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Haha. There are a lot of times on the discussion forum when that emoji is appropriate.
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True that. Always been the case

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Trump Ignores The Impacts Of Climate Change At His Peril - And Ours

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The Trump administration’s antipathy to tackling climate change is well known
– the President has called climate change a hoax invented by China and pledged to
take the U.S. out of the Paris climate change agreement, while a recent
U.S. government report suggests that global temperatures will rise by 4°C (7°F)
– and that there is nothing we can do about it,
so we might as well carry on pumping greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

Trump will be held responsible for the destruction of humanity. It's not a joke.
But it will be too late. There will be no room for sorries and apologies because
your grandgrandchildren will die. And they will be thinking of you, your ancestors,
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But people think that an uneducated businessman knows more than scientists.
He only cares about his skin and about his well-being until he dies.
He does not care about his supporters, he does not care about the world,
he does not care about humans, he does not care about your descendants.

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By phart at 09,Oct,18 11:17 other posts of phart 
And our sun will go supernova at some point and all our efforts will be in vain.
Or that volcano in Hawaii will erupt some more.Does anyone study the effects of a volcano in relation to the humans effects?
WE as industrialized humans have been making smoke since the 1800's with steam locomotives and the like. Less that 200 years!The earth has been here for MILLIONS of years.IF we stopped making smoke ,smoke as being pollution", right now, the earth will still continue to evolve and change and kill us off right along with the dino's. We are just another parasite on the earth and we will be ridden of just as the dino's.
Creating panic and economic suffering to try to stave off a change in the earths temp is futile at best and will only negatively affect humans in the long run.
Kinda like a volkswagon trying to push over Mount Everest.
By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 14:30
Luckily, phart, there are responsible people that refute what you've just stated. BTW, dino's where not killed by the earth. When Krakatoa blew it's top there was a blast winter that stayed with the whole world for months, Crops came in weak or not at all. And the whole in the ozone layer over Argentina/ Chile is getting bigger due to the use of fluorocarbons. But,,,who cares,, let the polar ice caps melt and the extra water flood our coastal cities.
By leopoldij at 09,Oct,18 15:39 other posts of leopoldij 
He's talking about "financial suffering".
He's using the language of the billionaires, even though, probably, he's not even a rich guy.

Also, he doesn't realize that anyone would rather suffer financially in a clean planet, and be poor, rather than be a millionaire in a dying planet.

That's what the religious retarded conservative right has done to many of your compatriots. It has transformed them into vegetables. 50% or so of the population of the supposedly no. 1 country in the world dares refute the scientific process, with the blessing of the government.

By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 15:46
what the religious right has done is mix the questions of abortion and homosexuality with climate change and lack of regulations by the Environmental Protection Agency. The ignorant fools of my country have been duped by politicians putting all together and these "Born Again High School Dropouts" spoon it in like honey.
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Ha ha ha!
It's so fucking funny!!!!

(And sad at the same time.)

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By phart at 09,Oct,18 16:34 other posts of phart 
The thread position is off but Leo,I am not rich,and even as a youth, I put very little stock in the environmentalist LONG before Trump was in the picture.Back in the 70's we were being taught about global COOLING and the Greenhouse effect.But then I read about 3 mile Island,and later on Chernobyl. And I realized,"Hey, smog might make me cough,but radiation would make me glow in the dark like my key ring and then DIE".But yet environmentalist still push Nuclear. DUH!

NO one wants to suffer,on a dying planet or a clean 1. We could have both a clean planet and prosperity if folks would use HYDRO,SOLAR and wind for energy instead of Nuclear.
I am not religious,according to a verse in the Bible I am not welcome into the Church because my balls were damaged when I was a ****.So don't call me religious,I doubt I can do anything to defy the Word and get up to Heaven.
I am not retarded.I am college educated.
I WILL always rebel against authority if it ask something of me I don't feel is right and I will always rebel science that refuses to look at ALL the side effects of their ideas and try to come to a compromise.
By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 20:00
Chernobyl is a type of reactor most nuclear authorities branded as dangerous for ease of loosing it's coolant and with a poor containment bldg. It was built in what,at the time, was the Soviet Union. The state was known for cutting costs and doing things on the rush.
The thing is that nuclear energy is safe and environmentally friendly. In the same time nuclear facilities have been in operation, in the USA (1942 to now) there was 3 mile island, but no one died directly from the accident (cancer from radiation is still under study) but nothing else. In the same time, millions of people died from complications of tainted air. One thing about science is that it works with facts only. People, on the other hand, have a habit of believing in science fiction and want to know why science ignores this
By phart at 09,Oct,18 20:42 other posts of phart 
Take a few minutes to google and read about the fish in the water surrounding Japan after Fukushima I think is the place that plant is located.People's lively hoods gone,their food supply affected.NOT good.
Also,do some googling about the disposal site,I think in Oregon,that holds a bunch of used nuclear fuel,Rods.Leaking into ground water. We need water,just as bad as we need air!
A neighbor made ALOT of money shortly after 3mile island welding in auxiliary cooling systems into nuclear plants all over the country. It took a large crew to do the job as exposure times were limited. He had to wear a badge that would alert him when he had been exposed to the acceptable level of radiation. He could not stay in the space but for 15 minutes to weld.It took part of that to setup to do the weld,and it had to be xrayed. Years later,He is now eat up with all kinds of ailments.
The plant nearest to me had a little known "near tragedy" a few years ago.The lake water used to for cooling has fish in it.Environmentalist demanded a filter screen be installed on the pumping system to prevent hurting the fish.Hum, 1 day temps starting rising,alarms were going off! OH SHIT. Turns out that screen was clogged up with,You guessed it, FISH. Of course you didn't hear about that on the news because your friends in the media made sure you heard all about that terrible coal ash.
By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 21:30
Sir,,,the Fukushima Daiichi accident was due to poor planning.

The Investigating Commission found the nuclear disaster was "manmade", that the direct causes of the accident were all foreseeable prior to 11 March 2011. The report also found that the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant was incapable of withstanding the earthquake and tsunami. The earthquake was a magnitude 9.0. That is very very strong, and the tsunami it cause was 15 meters high,,that's 49" to you. A monstrous wave that finished what the earthquake started. The plant was built in the wrong location too close to an earthquake fault line. Now, all this is known and as you say, on the net. The place is still dangerous to go too near and the sea life around is contaminated and is continually monitored.
I'm sorry for your neighbor, High risk jobs are just that. Auto brake mechanics almost always develop lung decease from the asbestos dust from the pads. AC techs have more burns from refrigerant leaks than stove repair men.
The fuel rd depository is a real concern, but, you will find that the danger is from us. We shortchange the construction, we push through dubious plans,,and downright embezzle the money to do a good job
By phart at 09,Oct,18 23:53 other posts of phart 
Yep,imperfect humans built the reactors!
So they can't be perfect or fool proof.
As long as there is a Human involved,something can fuck up.
We as the human race would need to step back 200 years and give up the world as we know it for a positive change to be made for 5 generations ahead to notice it. And then,if they don't learn from the mistakes we made,they will just put the earth right back where it was before the change.Because we are human.
If you want to save earth,you would have to leave it and go somewhere else. And then, that place would eventually get screwed up to!
technology is to blame,we wanted better lives over a 100 years ago.We got them,as we are so much better off than our ancestors. I mean look,we can communicate to others 1000's of miles away!
Could we do that and the environment not be changed?

By leopoldij at 09,Oct,18 15:35 other posts of leopoldij 
Actually, on this, you're an idiot, sorry to say.
"our sun will go supernova at some point" ... that'll take a few billion years.

"WE as industrialized humans have been making smoke since the 1800's with steam locomotives and the like. Less that 200 years!" Indeed, and we've fucked the Earth up more than any physical process would have fucked it up in millions of years.

All that is proven, man.

Your reaction is due to the fact that this idiot (Trump) and all his likes are keeping you and others in darkness because they themselves are STUPID.


Who cares about economic suffering?
Economic suffering is nothing compared to what's gonna happen. NOTHING.

Your grandgrandchildren would rather be poor and live on the streets than suffer the consequences of the total fuckup going on.

How dare you refute all scientists? Have you any idea of what science means or does?
By phart at 09,Oct,18 15:45 other posts of phart 
Yes I have a very good idea what science is and what the scientist do. They do research and study different things,sometimes for decades. Then skew the results according to the beliefs of the holder of the largest check book financing their research and putting food on their tables.They have to make a living to.And they could not do that telling the truth or another version of what could be happening. Someone like AlGore that owns 4 houses and rides around in Suburbans and expects YOU and I to ride around in fart mobiles.Those are the type people that pay in the shadows for this "research".

"Who cares about economic suffering"
MOST normal People that are trying to live today!

With people like Rocket Man and folks in Iran with nukes,and all the aging nuclear plants leaking radiation,and you are worried about some smog? Come on man,THINK for a minute.
Have they got the leaking stopped in Japan from that nuclear plant that was damaged and pouring out radiation into the ocean and so forth? Nope.
They did build a solar farm near Chernobyl but there is still radiation leaking,still people sick.
Just so you can have affordable electricity to run your computer to call ME a idiot for wanting to burn a bit more oil or coal.
Neither of us are idiots. We just don't agree.

By leopoldij at 09,Oct,18 16:00 other posts of leopoldij 
Just for the record, a huge fraction of Americans, in sharp contrast to any other industrialised country, are ignorant about elementary things. Those Americans (the president included) should have no right to question anything that science presents. They are, basically, idiots. Look:

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1. Only 45% of Americans were able to correctly identify what the initials in GOP stood for: Grand Old Party. Other popular guesses were Government of the People and God’s Own Party. Republicans obviously scored much better than Democrats did on this answer. [source]

2. 55% of Americans believe that Christianity was written into the Constitution and that the founding fathers wanted One Nation Under Jesus. This includes 75% of Republicans and Evangelicals. [source]

3. Although a “relatively” high 40% of people were able to name all three of the United States branches of government — executive, legislative and judicial — a far lower percentage knew the length of a Senator’s term. Just 25% responded that a Senator’s term stretches for six years. Even less, 20%, knew how many Senators there were. [source]

4. Americans are known to pick recent heads of state as among the best president in history, which is why Clinton and Reagan regularly rank higher than Lincoln, FDR and Washington. However, Hoover used to routinely top polls of the worst, but today, just 43% of Americans knew who he was, according to statistics from the University of Pennsylvania. [source]

5. When asked on what year 9/11 took place, 30% of Americans were unable to answer the question correctly, even as few as five years after the attack. This was according to a Washington Post poll conducted in 2006. . [source]

6. It’s not shocking that 80% of Americans believe that there is life out there somewhere, because it’s hard to look at a vast universe and think we’re completely alone. But another 1 in 5 allege that an alien life form has abducted a friend or family member of theirs, which based on population estimates of around 300 million means that a lot of fucking people have been probed. [source]

7. When looking at a map of the world, young Americans had a difficult time correctly identifying Iraq (1 in 7) and Afghanistan (17%). This isn’t that surprising, but only a slim majority (51%) knew where New York was. According to Forbes and National Geographic, an alarming 29% couldn’t point to the Pacific Ocean. [source]

8. 25% of Americans were unable to identify the country from which America gained its independence. Although 19% stated that they were unsure, Gallup findings indicated that others stated answers varying from France to China. Older folks scored much better than young people on this question, as a third of those 18-29 were unable to come up with the correct answer. [source]

9. Despite being a constant fixture in school curricula, another 30% of Americans didn’t know what the Holocaust was. Despite being some of the worst devastation in human history, Americans were unable to identify the country responsible: We were. Us. [source]

10. Even though we are a predominantly Christian country, only half of Americans knew that Judaism came before Christianity, because the words “Old Testament” are apparently very confusing in that regard. [source]

11. A surprisingly high percentage of Americans, 20%, believe that the Sun revolves around the Earth, instead of the opposite, aka. the correct answer. This is despite the fact that centuries of science have consistently proved otherwise. [source]

12. In 2011, Newsweek found that 29% of Americans were unable to correctly identify the current Vice President, Joe Biden, when asked to take a simple citizenship test. Although a relatively low 6% didn’t know when Independence Day was, a much, much higher percentage (73%) had no idea why we fought the Cold War. [source]

13. According to most polls, Americans didn’t know that Obamacare was scheduled to go into effect. Kaiser puts the number at 64%, whereas others say as few as 1 in 8. [source]

14. 2006 AP polls showed that a majority of Americans were unable to name more than one of the protections guaranteed in the first Amendment of the Constitution — which include speech, assembly, religion, press and “redress of grievance.” Just 1 in 1000 could name all of these five freedoms. However, 22% were able to come up with the name of every member of the Simpson family. [source] TC mark
By phart at 09,Oct,18 16:38 other posts of phart 
You know,you have got a good point.I doubt many people could answer alot of the questions that were ask.
Some things like the date Obama care was to take place,are not first and foremost in our minds as there was LITTLE to nothing we could do about it.

Most of us would need to read up some before answering those questions.
I hated studying for test as a youngan.

By 71andstillup at 10,Oct,18 00:05 other posts of 71andstillup 
Try and find out how "smart" you really are. Well not smart just able to recall random fact.
By leopoldij at 10,Oct,18 05:21 other posts of leopoldij 
I didn't say I'm smart. I just said how surprised people in Europe are at the ignorance of (millions of) Americans, including their president. Despite that, they have opinions on what science says. I'm talking about lack of very basic education. Not smartness. This is what I'm saying.

By bella! at 09,Oct,18 11:06 other posts of bella! 
Although this is not about Donald, it is about Melania's trip to Africa. What I enjoyed was the montage that Jimmy Kimmel put together about "Melania HERE, Melania THERE". The saying; "a picture is worth one thousand words" is so true! Just focus on her face, her expressions.

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By phart at 09,Oct,18 11:25 other posts of phart 
I can't believe people are so hung up on her hat.It is perfectly normal in that hot desert environment to wear a wide brim white hat to stave off the heat and sun from the skin. Would 1 of those big Mexican style hat's have suited everyone better?
By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 14:22
yes,,it would have,,,it was like flying the Mexican flag in the middle of Austin, Texas

By bella! at 09,Oct,18 16:31 other posts of bella! 
But if, in fact, the choice of head gear is a representation of colonialism and the exploitation of blacks, surely her stylist could have guided her to something different. No?
By kebmo at 09,Oct,18 17:58 other posts of kebmo 
Bella, I'm sure that when high ranking officials travel there are people either on ground (maybe the Ambassador or their subordinates) or travel with them to prevent fashion faux pas and ensure proper etiquette, it matters. I'm not sure who's job that is but regarding the white hat, they did fail. I do wonder who gave her the hat though.
I watched the bit on Jimmy Kimmel last night and it certainly was a happy face that she's had in Africa.

By #562152 at 09,Oct,18 14:21
HAHAHA,,,loved it,,

By #568832 at 06,Oct,18 09:13
"Donald Trump has turned America into a place where victims are mocked and being merciless is a virtue"

What's your views on this statement .
Are the victims just namby Pamby wingers . or have they got a valid point?
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 09:52
Victims always have had a valid point when they asked for justice. There's many types of abusers in this world. Getting mugged, beat up, assaulted verbally, the list is long, but, there is one type that is different. Sexual assault or sexual harassment has been treated differently. Think what would happen if your s.on goes to the principal's office and accuses little Stevie of stealing his lunch money. I think we know that little Stevie is in mucho trouble and it was not stealing harassment, it was stealing.
Women, as one half of the human reproductive team, have been viewed for ages as being the ones to expect and not complain when men f.orce themselves on them. And how do you prove that. Sexual assaults do not happen in the middle of crowded street. There's no money taken, the bruises are in a very private place, and the perpetrator can claim it was consensual. That makes the victim a slut. The people doing the mocking are mostly men. Women have more understanding as they probably went through something similar at work, school, or any other place.
I wonder what men would do if the woman boss made them masturbate n the middle of the work floor and several people.
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 10:08 other posts of leopoldij 
I totally agree with what you say. But, since on my horny mood now, I'll reply yo your question "I wonder what men would do if the woman boss made them masturbate n the middle of the work floor and several people."

I'd be ok with it, so long as the people watching were (mostly) women.
By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 10:11
Leo,,,,what if they were all men??
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 10:12 other posts of leopoldij 
No, that's a big no.

By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 10:12 other posts of leopoldij 
"Donald Trump has turned America into a place where victims are mocked and being merciless is a virtue"

He hasn't turned into America into this kind of place. Parts of America (same in many other countries, by the way) were like this before he became president and that's why he became president. Those people who like to mock victims, those who are uncultured, those who are uncouth, those who can't utter any sentence without filth or idiocy, .... those are who elected Trump. Unfortunately, he has also been supported by more "respectable" people too.
But he hasn't turned America into this place you're saying, the damage was there already.
He's just helping promote ****, filth, inhumanity, and so on.
By phart at 06,Oct,18 11:08 other posts of phart 
There are legit victims and there are copy cat's trying to get their 5 minutes of fame.
And there is alot of viscous women out there that get a thrill out of ruining a mans reputation and life in general.
Those are the bad apples making it a hard row to hoe for the true victims of crime. If proven liars, they should go to jail.
For decades some women have lived slutty lives in their youth and are being taught by today's media and the METO movement that they can come out with the facts that they fucked anything warm and hard and the guys that didn't make the cut in number of orgasms are rap1st.
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 11:18 other posts of leopoldij 
There are many women who have taken advantage of the system in order to promote themselves. But there are many women too, a lot of them, who have been harassed and abvsed and ra.ped. Trump, as a president of the US, should not make fun of disabled people, of harassed women, etc. He's done that in public many times. He does not know how to behave. His not a gentleman. Neither gentle nor man.

By #562152 at 06,Oct,18 11:18
phart,,few women are slutty whores like me. What you just said is that's if i say i was raped it's because i didn't like how they fucked me? I suppose you mean i have no right to say no to some dude that thinks he's G.OD's gift to women??? Did you complain to the cops after you grew up that your mom dropped you on your head???? SERIOUSLY?????
By phart at 06,Oct,18 14:29 other posts of phart 
My mom did drop me on my head,literally .Nothing i am proud of either.I don't discuss much of how I was raised.Put it this way,if she did the things to me now that she did then,she would have died in prison instead of a nursing home .
There are more whores than folks realize.
You have the right to say no.But during the events in question,did the women say no,or did they just roll with the flow?
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 15:13 other posts of leopoldij 
Men in power do women (and other human beings) all the time. Look at what has happened in the catholic church: the institution was set up so that anyone could have sex with ch1ldren and it was covered by the church. Likewise, men in politics do take advantage of vulnerable people. Mostly women, but not only. It is much more likely that Kavanaugh abvsed that woman than not because he had the power to do so. One should be constantly suspicious of people who have power and who pretend to be ethical. Power and ethics contradict one another.
I agree with you that there are many "whores" around who have taken advantage of one's protectionism, have sold their bodies in order to achieve their purpose.
But NOT every woman who is abvsed is a whore.
And, in any case, a supreme court judge should be clean of all suspicions. This Kavanaugh is not.
They can find another person to do the job.
He is not unique.
By phart at 06,Oct,18 15:26 other posts of phart 
As i mentioned elsewhere,it would be difficult to find a "clean" person for any job in Washington. And it seems if you send a clean 1 up there, they come back dirty.
By leopoldij at 06,Oct,18 15:39 other posts of leopoldij 
Then we agree. Politicians are, in general, unclean.
By phart at 06,Oct,18 22:46 other posts of phart 
I am sure over half the people in that hearing room were scared to death the skeltons would come out of the closets on them.BUT the dems would defend their's to the max,but yet,let the repubs do it and they are just vile! Double standard.
Last I heard the liberal lady judged mentioned retirement and said they could have another round if they wanted! holy crap again?
Who could Trump nominate that the dem's wouldn't try to clean their clock?

By #551226 at 06,Oct,18 12:59
Let's talk your pussy ass prime minister Trudeau.

By leopoldij at 27,Sep,18 22:28 other posts of leopoldij 
Trump said: "Judge Kavanaugh one of the highest quality people I've ever met."

That coming from the mouth of a sleazeball is the best proof there is that Kavanaugh is not exactly of high quality...
By kebmo at 27,Sep,18 22:36 other posts of kebmo 
Do you know to tell if Trump is lying? His lips are moving.
By leopoldij at 27,Sep,18 22:40 other posts of leopoldij 
Actually, he's NOT lying when he says that K is of highest quality.

Highest quality for Trump means exactly someone like K. The sleazier, the better.

By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 18:00
A real piece of work,,
By phart at 01,Oct,18 18:39 other posts of phart 
Ok,present us with a better candidate.
Be sure to run him,she or it,thru the same wringers you all want Trump's picks ran thru ok?
By kebmo at 01,Oct,18 19:13 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, Judge Judy?
By phart at 01,Oct,18 20:04 other posts of phart 
I don't know she was on the front of 1 of those "news" papers in the walmart check out line a while back.She may have something in her closet!

By #562152 at 05,Oct,18 10:48
At this point i'd prefer Mickey Mouse to any Trump nominee,,
By phart at 05,Oct,18 10:50 other posts of phart 
But Mighty Mouse would come out of the wood work and claim they had a "affair" and that he was given a hoop of cheese to shut up about it!
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By aoneeyedmonster at 06,Oct,18 10:20 other posts of aoneeyedmonster 
Unemployment is the lowest in 50 years at 3.7%. Stock market continues to break records since he came in to power. No more missles from little rocket man, Middle East basically quiet, Iran who knows! Russia, other than hacking also quiet. Most importantly his wife Melania is the hottest first lady ever......
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By kebmo at 04,Oct,18 23:39 other posts of kebmo 
"I have interviewed more people this week than the FBI did."

-Jimmy Kimmel on the Kavanaugh investigation.
By #562152 at 05,Oct,18 10:43
We interact with more people in one day, here, than the whole FBI investifuckup of the "GOOD JUDGE"
By phart at 05,Oct,18 10:47 other posts of phart 
FBI, Friggen Bunch of Idiots.They can't get anything right unless there is some money or assets to be seized.
There was nothing really for them to gain with this investigation so they didn't really put in any effort. I seriously doubt they would have found much regardless.But again,I doubt they put in much effort.
By #562152 at 05,Oct,18 10:52
You have to remember that FBI stands for Federal Bureau of Intoxication.

By kebmo at 02,Oct,18 20:57 other posts of kebmo 
Oh no! I just saw on the news that the President can now send EMERGENCY alerts to every cell phone, tv and radio in the USA. It's for weather, terrorist, war or health emergencies ONLY!! It was made clear that it's not for political messages but who wants to guess how long that will hold out? I guess that before the mid term elections Trump will abuse the system.
By phart at 03,Oct,18 11:50 other posts of phart 
I aint to happy about this.I despise text
By kebmo at 03,Oct,18 15:19 other posts of kebmo 
We already have such systems in Canada but it's not national, it's regional and it's not run from the Prime Minister's Office. It's for weather emergencies and Amber Alerts.
An Amber Alert is when a ch.ild is abducted and is in immediate danger. It goes out over all cell phones, tvs and radios in a large geographical region around the crime.
I think it's a great idea...when used properly.
By #562152 at 04,Oct,18 10:12
Kebmo we have those too

By #562152 at 04,Oct,18 10:13
phart, be happy it's not a mind meld thing

By JustWill at 03,Oct,18 15:34 other posts of JustWill 
I can just imagine his announcements: "Crooked Hillary and the "Deep State" are sending a tornado to your area. Sad!"
By kebmo at 03,Oct,18 16:00 other posts of kebmo 
I'd love to know who decided that the actual message should come from the President. Eric?

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By phart at 05,Oct,18 10:49 other posts of phart 
nothing around here started beeping so apparently my old flip phone can't catch the signal or I wasn't meant to get it.
The Civil Defense system on my old Am radios probably would work better in this less populated area anyway.

By spermkiss at 03,Oct,18 15:47 other posts of spermkiss 
" seems apparent that his jihad against Barack Obama was fueled by envy: Obama was a black man who was also a class act, with all the grace and poise Trump lacks. And Trump couldn't stand it." Paul Krugman, The New York Times, Tuesday, October 2, 2018.
By kebmo at 03,Oct,18 16:02 other posts of kebmo 
You can't buy class.

By leopoldij at 04,Oct,18 08:32 other posts of leopoldij 
You can't buy manners.
You can't buy culture.
You can't buy education.

Trump lacks all these things. Indeed you're right. He's jealous of anyone who has them.
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He behaves like an 8 year old spoiled ****: when you're 8 and are jealous of a k1d you use childish methods to express your anger. The expectation is that an old man, especially when he's the president of a country, he has grown up.

That's not the case with Trump.
Drvg dealers, mafiosi, gangsters, ... all have better manners than him.
By #562152 at 04,Oct,18 10:18
Manners, culture and education,,,many US Americans lack these. Sadly, it gets passed to the next generation. It's easier to watch Dancing With the Stars or NCIS than to learn where the capital of the USA is at. And when was the last time you saw someone sneeze in public and cover his mouth?
By phart at 04,Oct,18 14:23 other posts of phart 
No 1 carries a hanky to sneeze in anymore,so they would have a buggery hand to wipe off on something if they covered their mouth perhaps?
If I sneeze I try to go outside or away from others if time allows.,I also try to fart away from other people unless they are smoking in a non smoking area then I just let it roll!.
By #562152 at 04,Oct,18 16:01
Not carrying a hankie is no excuse for being uncouth or a danger to other people
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I just read that last year 2.2K people died of the flue. The flue is an air born decease.
By phart at 04,Oct,18 20:16 other posts of phart 
I know,I was just giving a possible theory as to why some folks don't cover their mouths when they sneeze.It is not my normal course of action to just sneeze all over the place.

By mr_blue at 04,Oct,18 11:19 other posts of mr_blue 
You can buy two out three of those leo!!
Go to an auction you can buy art, that's culture,if you want to become a doctor,you have to pay for that education..

And trump is not gonna change, you've got more chance of finding hobby horse shit that trump changing...

By 71andstillup at 05,Oct,18 00:48 other posts of 71andstillup 
Krugman LOL that ass knows nothing worth knowing

By #551226 at 05,Oct,18 10:36
Yeah, he WAS a black man until he figured out he has a white mother.

By talk5s at 04,Oct,18 14:49 other posts of talk5s 
Trumpily Frumpily be as freakin' WHITE as one can get! Rich, Daddy's boy, BIGOTED BEYOND BELIEF...OH. And STUPID AS HELL! Blind to all things having to do with human compassion, history, war, the Universe and his planet spinning @ a thousand MPH in the complete darkness of Space ; Jeez, how could I forget? Huge CROOK. He be the 'Thief in Chief'...I am gonna copyright that! ...Have to watch it now. Nearly out of my . Crap. Cain't use no more of em...I be, if I may be so bold, WHITE as hell, too. Beyond that, I would like to mention in the MOST un bigoted way possible for a 'white boy'...Obama had a white Mother. As an F1 fan, Hamilton (current World Champion Leader and 4 time winner) has a white mother also. What I find really ODD in both these ENTIRELY different Worlds is how JUST skin color defines both Obama and Hamilton as 'Black'...What's clear to me is something I have always known. One day (if this race of humanoids lives long enough) is there will be only ONE race and only ONE World government...Obama and Hamilton are the hybrids of this future race. Both so MUCH better than the sum of their 'parts'...Sorry to offend all you dufus white bigots that cannot see beyond the inch of their own (cocks, titter, titter) noses. World government has to happen, 1984'ish as that sounds. Our very survival as a unified race of humans depends on it.

By kebmo at 03,Oct,18 17:29 other posts of kebmo 
"As Americans it is our duty to stop evil billionaires or elect them to the highest office."
-Homer Simpson
By phart at 04,Oct,18 10:18 other posts of phart 
jelous people don't like others to be successful.
The loudest boo's always come from the cheapest seats.

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By JustWill at 02,Oct,18 22:19 other posts of JustWill 
Trump has declared that it is a "very scary time for young men in America". Mostly because they now stand a much better chance of being called out for acting all rapey and shit. As we all are well aware, Trump is just fine with the rapey and he is just sad that today's youth won't be able to get their fair share...
By kebmo at 02,Oct,18 23:02 other posts of kebmo 
The poor guys will have to treat young women with respect. SAD!!!
By phart at 02,Oct,18 23:18 other posts of phart 
gee how nice,you twist it around to make it look so "bad".
Really, it is to a point now you have to be scared to speak to a woman,or happen to look her way. How long will it be before, "He looked at me!Straight at me" I feel violated".
Really,you folks need to look around,your world is fucked up!
By kebmo at 02,Oct,18 23:31 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, yes that's exactly what the point is. No boy is ever allowed to look at another girl ever again. New rules. End sarcasm.
By phart at 03,Oct,18 11:52 other posts of phart 
I think I want to buy some pants with a cod piece and just walk around with my pecker out where people can see it! Then sue every person that even looks straight at it.Hell I have the right to walk around without being looked at don't I? Or is it a double standard? Women only that can't be stared at?
By JustWill at 03,Oct,18 12:06 other posts of JustWill 
By all means, if you see a woman walking around with her cock hanging out, feel free to stare.

In point of fact, none of the women coming forward has accused a man of sexual harassment because he looked at her. They have, however, complained (and rightfully so) about guys waving their junk at them.

Here's a helpful tip: No one wants to see your junk, no matter how fancy you might think it is. Keep it in your pants...
By phart at 03,Oct,18 12:45 other posts of phart 
I know that Not YET have they accused a man of sexual harassment of looking at her.At what point with this slippery slope come to the bottom of what is considered sexual harassment and what is not?
A whistle or a "Hi how are you"? Is not harassment but try it in France now.
I am trying to make a point that women think it is perfectly ok to walk around drunk with their tit's hanging out or their ass cheeks hanging out and no one is supposed to look.It is harassment to them to compliment it or notice it or anything else. OR OR,could they say they feel discriminated against because someone looked at another woman and NOT THEM? It could damage their self esteem to know that men were not drooling over their ass cheeks but those of another woman!
Very confusing messages coming from women nowadays.Or at least all the 1's on Tv

By JustWill at 03,Oct,18 12:10 other posts of JustWill 
Donny Jr says that he is more afraid for his sons than he is for his daughters.
Here's an idea, Donny: Teach your boys not to be rapey. That will go a long way to keeping them safe. I know that having their gropy grandpa as a role-model will make the job more difficult, but give it the old college try anyway.
By phart at 03,Oct,18 12:47 other posts of phart 
how many women are being crucified for sexual harassment nowadays?
What became of the METO movement founder once it was brought out that SHE HERSELF so called rapedd a 17 year old boy? I aint figured out why he complained?

By kebmo at 27,Aug,18 08:24 other posts of kebmo 
RIP John. Even people who disagreed with you respected you.
By phart at 28,Aug,18 12:42 other posts of phart 
I must say cancer is no way for any man to go and I am sorry the man suffered with it.His loss is a tragedy for his family.
As for his politics,I have little to no respect for the Rhino. Republican in name only,is what that means.
My uncle served in Nam and calls Mccain a coward. Study about him. You might understand why.
By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:29
The BIG C is horrible and we must find a way to overcome it. As for politics, I'm tired of hearing that a man with a conscience and good ideas is considered a "Rhino". People that think like that are close minded. They are not willing to cross a stupid imaginary line in government in order to do some good for the people. Republican or Democrat, have you forgotten that the aim of government, the reason government exists, is to take care of the people who gave them their jobs. Mr McCain cared about that, As far as saying he was a coward, My **** served there and he doesn't think like your uncle at all. Maybe, he has to tear down a good man so he can feel better about his short comings.

By onthelose at 12,Sep,18 18:52 other posts of onthelose 
As a resident of AZ I can not think of one think he did for us. Politically I am glad John Kyle is there. I could not understand how a elected official who had cancer and wasn't expected to live could continue to not do his job and keep his job. If he was the hero everyone says he was, he should have resigned and let someone else do the job. For certain he was not a crybaby about the cancer, kudos to him.
By #435701 at 13,Sep,18 15:05
onthelose-Is NOT the fact that he was an American aviator that went to WAR for this country not enough for you??! And that he spent many more years being tortured in the 'Hotel Hanoi' than he had to just because he refused to leave when it was offered to him? Because of his high ranked military Dad...I ask you honestly. If it was YOU that 1st survived a shoot down from altitude in a jet followed by the civilian enemies that found you injured and took the American bombs they had endured...out on you, BEFORE you even had to endure what the N. Vietnamese military had in store for you later. Could YOU yourself endure anything like that?? Use your imagination about what torture you personally would fear...A year in, McCain was offered the chance to go home. And he refused to leave the other Americans @ this fabulous 'Hotel'! Really. HOW many of us would NOT have caved at that point thinking we had proved ourselves enough?? SURE I would have!! McCain was NOT a crybaby EVER. As far as his Cancer and how he continued to serve this country in spite of fighting for his personal life...I KNOW something about Cancer and the total bravery it takes JUST to simply continue a semblance of a normal everyday life. (Was not me showing this bravery) McCain was a 'Publican' (ocrats suck too. Politics suck entirely) that still saw America as it should be. And NOT in it's current fucked the hell up state! And he fought for that even beyond his death...McCain measured up beyond both of us, onthelose...

By JustWill at 28,Aug,18 16:27 other posts of JustWill 
John McCain was a true American hero. I may not have always agreed with him politically, but I greatly respected his service and the fact that he was one of the few members of the Senate who believed that working together with the people on the other side of the aisle to reach compromise was what the Founders intended when they created his job.

I find it interesting (and hypocritical) that Trump's whack-a-do base get all worked up about football players kneeling and "disrespecting our flag and our veterans", but have no problem whatsoever bashing a specific man who is an actual veteran, a victim of imprisonment and torture at the hands of an enemy, and who continued to serve his country--with distinction--until the time of his death.
Apparently, like is so often true about Trumpian believers--people are only worth respect if they think exactly as they do...
By phart at 28,Aug,18 17:39 other posts of phart 
You are correct in finding fault in disrespecting a veteran but at the same time,the facts make that particular 1 a non favorite among several i know personally.When 1 veteran points out issues with another,that prompts me to think perhaps it is worth learning more about.
Respect is earned.And our veterans and current service members earn it by fighting and giving to protect us.
But like I said,do your own research on Mccain before you think I am totally in the wrong. if I quote it or post links,fault will be found,but if you do it,and see and find for yourself,you will feel there is less bias from me.
By kebmo at 28,Aug,18 17:57 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, even if you hated him to the core, show some class and say nothing at a time like this. In general he was greatly respected. A perfect example was when Veterans groups went ballistic when the flag over the Whitehouse was raised after being lowered for such a short time.

I get it, you didn't like him but he just died so if you have nothing nice to say, say nothing at all. It's how these things work. You're allowed to say what you like but at this time it's really not the right thing to do.
By phart at 28,Aug,18 23:23 other posts of phart 
Point taken. Note I didn't say I hated the man,just his politics.
By kebmo at 29,Aug,18 03:01 other posts of kebmo 
Note, I didn't say you did.

By JustWill at 28,Aug,18 22:35 other posts of JustWill 
So...maybe those football players are only kneeling to show disrespect to McCain-like veterans (the ones Trumpians are OKAY with being disrespectful to) and not the "good" ones.

By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:20
JustWill,,I agree with you. Heroes, to them, are only the ones that agree with that aberration of a president. A man (in the grammatical sense) is as good as his inner compass directs. Mr McCain, decided from very young to walk on the path of truth and rightness. His political actions where always based on what he thought was best for the people of this nation. We forget that a nation is really the people. He didn't care about that famous center line in the senate any more than the risks that came from flying combat missions in Viet Nam. Some distractors forget that he flew 23 missions b4 he was shot down.

By Andthisisme at 29,Aug,18 04:44 other posts of Andthisisme 
Trump really did display his lack of class in the way he responded to the death of John McCain. The image of him refusing to respond to questions, arms folded and pouting was so revealing.
By JustWill at 29,Aug,18 09:00 other posts of JustWill 
He is a petty, little man.
By #551226 at 29,Aug,18 09:53
And he continues to live rent free in your head.
By phart at 30,Aug,18 10:38 other posts of phart 
There are times when you are in a high position,for lack of better word,you have to put up a front to look correct for the public good.
This was time,for a man in his position,to have grit his teeth,put on the right face and appear concerned.

By phart at 01,Oct,18 18:51 other posts of phart 
But 1 thing I noticed is not mentioned here.McCain helped plan his funeral and he requested Trump not be there. So perhaps Trump was a bit miffed about that? I Doubt it but who knows.

By kebmo at 25,Sep,18 03:52 other posts of kebmo 
Sean Hannity: The real Vice President of the United States.
By phart at 01,Oct,18 18:42 other posts of phart 
Why not? I sure as hell don't see alot of other folks qualified for the job stepping up to the plate do you? I aint even heard who the dem's might run next. I sure hope they do their homework and don't try another crook like Hillary.They blew their chances right out of their ass before they even got a start with her.

By kebmo at 01,Oct,18 16:24 other posts of kebmo 
Well we now have a NAFTA 2.0 between Canada, Mexico and the US.
It's a win, win, win deal, the way friends and neighbours should make deals. It still has to be ratified by all three governments but that's probably a given.
This is a Trillion USD deal.
By #562152 at 01,Oct,18 17:59
It's good as far as it goes. I think Trump is trying to put out fires before the midterm elections
By phart at 01,Oct,18 18:40 other posts of phart 
Eh,Trump put a midnight deadline on it!,Pressure did the trick to bring about a solution.
Now this is a glimpse of how Trump COULD work,given a little room.

By kebmo at 27,Sep,18 19:59 other posts of kebmo 
Oh Trump is sure pissed off because Canada isn't caving to his demands about NAFTA and it's seventh or eighth "deadline".
Chrystia Freeland the absolute best negotiator for Canada. She doesn't bow to his meaningless threats because she knows that they're just that, meaningless.
"We're very unhappy with the negotiations and the negotiating style of Canada. We don't like their representative very much," he said.
Prime Minister Trudeau replied "The Americans are finding that the negotiations are tough because Canadians are tough negotiators, as we should be but a good and fair deal is still very possible."
That doesn't sound unreasonable does it?
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Well we now have a NAFTA 2.0 between Canada, Mexico and the US.
It's a win, win, win deal, the way friends and neighbours should make deals. It still has to be ratified by all three governments but that's probably a given.
This is a Trillion USD deal.

By #562152 at 15,Sep,18 09:32

By kebmo at 12,Sep,18 19:22 other posts of kebmo 
Here is one American’s take on the growing trade war with the US and Canada.

Robert Meadows (Circuit Court Judge, Florida) wrote:

"Have you ever stopped to consider how lucky we Americans are to have the neighbors we have? Look around the globe at who some folks have been stuck sharing a border with over the past half century:

North Korea / South Korea
West Germany / East Germany
Greece / Turkey
Iran / Iraq
Israel / Palestine
India / Pakistan
China / Russia

We’ve got Canada! Canada. About as inoffensive a neighbor as you could ever hope for. In spite of all our boasts of “American exceptionalism” and chants of “America first,” they just smile, do their thing and go about their business. They are on average more educated, have a higher standard of living, free health care, and almost no gun problems. They treat immigrants respectfully and already took in over 35,000 Syrians in the last two years.
They’re with us in NATO, they fought alongside us in World War I, World War II, Korea, the Gulf War, the Bosnian War, Afghanistan, the Kosovo War and came to our defense after 9/11. There was that one time when Canada took a pass on one of our wars: Vietnam. Turned out to be a good call.
They’ve been steady consumers of American imports, reliable exporters of metals and petroleum products (they are the biggest importer of U.S. products from 37 states), and partnered with NASA in our space missions.
During 911 many aircraft were diverted to Newfoundland, an island province off Canada's east coast where Americans were housed in people's homes for two weeks and treated like royalty. In return for their hospitality, this administration slapped a 20% tariff on the products of Newfoundland's only paper mill, thereby threatening it's survival.
And what do Canadians expect of us in return? To be respected for who and what they are: Canadians. That’s what I call a good neighbor.

But the King of Chaos couldn’t leave well enough alone. Based on his delusions of perpetual victimhood, out of the clear blue, he’s declared economic war on Canada. On CANADA! And he did it based on Canada being a national security risk to the US! For no good reason, other than the voices in his head that told him it was a war he could win. So why not do it, then?
Trump went ahead and imposed his tariffs on aluminum and steel even though we have a trade surplus with Canada on those products! Trudeau retaliated in kind. And now this morning, the White House is preparing a new wave of tariffs in retaliation for Trudeau’s retaliation. This time he threatens a tariff on automobiles even though 70% of their components originate in the U.S.! It’s just a temporary spat, right? Except for that smile on Vladimir’s face in the Kremlin, as the NATO pact unravels a little more with each passing day.
Again, we’re talking about Canada. Our closest ally, friend and neighbor.

On behalf of an embarrassed nation, people of Canada, I apologize for this idiotic and wholly unnecessary attack. Please leave the back channels open. We the People of progressive persuasion stand with you.

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*The Canadian Vietnam Veterans Association estimates that about 20,000 Canadians enlisted, although other historians think that number may have been as high as 40,000. The association believes 12,000 Canadians actually served in combat roles in Vietnam. They fought by choice wearing American uniforms. My Mom's husband was one of them.

*Canada did not join in the Iraq War
By #562152 at 13,Sep,18 12:05
I did not know that but do know that before The US entered WWII many of our guys enlisted in the Canadian Arm Forces,,,WE can't ask for a better neighbor. This fool of a president we have now is,,,,well,,,,a fool,,
By kebmo at 13,Sep,18 14:37 other posts of kebmo 
August 4, 1914 Canada enters WW1
April 6, 1917, U.S. joined its allies

September 10th 1939 Canada entered WW2
DEC. 1941 USA joined its allies.
By #562152 at 15,Sep,18 08:47
Not sure what is the point

By #562152 at 13,Sep,18 22:29

By kebmo at 10,Sep,18 06:27 other posts of kebmo 
Rudy Giuliani sure has been quiet lately. I wonder if he’s been told to stop talking to the media.
By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:08
you think he wrote that op-ed in the times???
By kebmo at 10,Sep,18 15:56 other posts of kebmo 
I don't think so. I don't think he has that much interaction with the cabinet. I also don't think he's smart enough to put a proper paragraph together.

By #562152 at 12,Sep,18 18:41
Old Rudy was an asshole before 9/11/2001,,,,really stepped up after 9/11/2001 for a while,and went back to being an asshole. A position he proudly still keeps

By #460523 at 29,Aug,18 20:58
Trump 2020
By kebmo at 30,Aug,18 00:27 other posts of kebmo 
I don't think he'll run in 2020. I think he'll go back to building the Trump hotel brand in North Korea, China and of course Russia. There's a LOT more money to be made there.
I also think that he'll get tired of living in that dump he's in now and I bet he misses his Trump plane too.
Then there's Melania. She'll want a divorce.

But...he sure does like campaigning.

By #562152 at 12,Sep,18 18:38
avgdick69,,please excuse the following,it's a political statement,,,,
God, in his infinite wisdom, prevented us from kissing our elbows or ass. That's why the following phrase is so important,,, KISS MY ASS!!!!

By kebmo at 31,Aug,18 02:36 other posts of kebmo 
"Donald Trump doesn't want to listen to good lawyers and good lawyers don't want to work for him."

-CBC News pundit
By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:11
why would anyone want to work for that poor excuse of a human being

By kebmo at 31,Aug,18 06:17 other posts of kebmo 
John McCain’s Mother is still alive. Her name is Roberta and she’s 106 years old. I didn’t know that until just now.
By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:10
hardy people,,good genes,,but,,painful to see a son die before you,,

By kebmo at 07,Sep,18 01:30 other posts of kebmo 
Can Trump fire Mike Pence?

No he can't. The Vice President is elected to his post along with the President. Like the President, he could only be removed from office through impeachment, illness or death.
By #562152 at 10,Sep,18 10:09
the scary part is that if Trump is removed from office we'd get a religious zealot to take his place

By kebmo at 28,Aug,18 17:25 other posts of kebmo 
Todays paranoid delusion:
Google, Twitter and Facebook are all have bias newsfeeds against Trump and his party.
Yes Donald, the whole world is out to get you.

All in all, it's just another brick in the wall.
By phart at 28,Aug,18 17:41 other posts of phart 
I thought facebook and all them were doing the whack-a-mole thing on "trolls" posting political stuff? Or is it just the stuff against the democrats?

By Andthisisme at 29,Aug,18 04:41 other posts of Andthisisme 
He is not stupid, in the sense that he is playing to his core supporters who believe whatever he tells them. They really do believe that the media are out to get him and will be scared they will be worse off when he leaves office.
Much as I **** the thought he may well win a second term.
By kebmo at 29,Aug,18 04:58 other posts of kebmo 
I don’t think he’ll want a second term. Maybe he’s setting things up for his daughter to run. His son might well be in jail.
By Andthisisme at 29,Aug,18 05:11 other posts of Andthisisme 
I hope that you are right but I would not bet my money on him not getting re elected.
By kebmo at 29,Aug,18 05:17 other posts of kebmo 
I’m right about everything. Just ask my ex wife!

By JustWill at 28,Aug,18 23:09 other posts of JustWill 
Seriously, the guy is bat-shit crazy.
He is warning the Evangelicals that, if he and the GOP don't win, no one will ever be able to say "Merry Christmas".
By kebmo at 29,Aug,18 02:55 other posts of kebmo 
That and everyone will go broke because the economy will collapse without his stellar leadership which will lead to vi0lence in the streets.

By kebmo at 25,Aug,18 02:25 other posts of kebmo 
His CFO turning on him will get Trump. It's all about where the money went and the CFO always knows that.

The walls are tumbling down.
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I think Don Jr. is another step closer to jail. 👍
By #545929 at 25,Aug,18 10:07
Trump once bragged that he was worth $10 billion.
It won't be long now before he is only worth 4 cigarettes from the prison commissary.

By phart at 25,Aug,18 21:26 other posts of phart 
And George Soros probably is grinning because he has bought and paid for all the lies. No I don't have "proof" But if the truth could be found,I am willing to bet good money he is behind it all.

By kebmo at 23,Aug,18 19:04 other posts of kebmo 
New cover of Time Magazine:

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By leopoldij at 23,Aug,18 20:06 other posts of leopoldij 
Nothing will happen.
The attitude of Trump voters is
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"so What if he broke the law? Everybody does."

By leopoldij at 23,Aug,18 05:36 other posts of leopoldij 
Ladies And gentlemen, the President of the United States in its best performance:
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Correction: "its" should be "his".
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But maybe not. Come to think of it, he's probably an object.
By kebmo at 23,Aug,18 16:28 other posts of kebmo 
Such a classy guy. End sarcasm.

By #435701 at 21,Aug,18 15:24
I have made this comparison before on this site. 2018 as compared to 1938. The ONLY difference is those people alive in 1938 as it led into the 2nd World War...could NOT make fun of the people in power for all to see as we now can. Many in 1938 were JUST as unaware as MOST of us currently alive are of the OBVIOUS future, unless we can change direction immediately. I can ONLY hope social media will make a difference and prevent what is only obvious to a very few from happening...Mushroom clouds in your beautiful sunsets are in ALL of our futures...I know. Practically NO one can really appreciate what the total destructive power of a few thousand 'Thermo' Nuclear weapons going off will have. It's EASY to say. NO life left on our planet. But it's VERY hard to comprehend...Because...NOBODY thinks it could happen to 'them'...After all. We ALL are so 'special'. Nothing bad can possibly happen to any ONE of us.
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It's funny, that NEVER has ANYONE replied to one of my super 'duperty' completely DEPRESSING posts along these lines...Is it because stating what ALL of us inherently 'know' is just NOT PC? Or is it just because the obvious is just SO freaking SCARY?...C'mon. Somebody PLEASE say; 'It cannot happen.'...Really. Start a discussion of the end of man'kind.'
By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 15:45
Talk,,it is scary,,,and no one likes to talk about their own death. I certainly don't,,but, you threw out a dare and so i'm here. I know that life is very fragile and we live under the constant threat that something will end it. An asteroid with sufficient mass hitting earth,, a madman with the launch codes to nuclear weapons,, a madman with a gun. But, what can we do to prevent something like that from happening?? Man made disasters are preventable. What's more, I believe in the inherent goodness of man and his ability to stop a madman from destroying mankind,,
By #435701 at 22,Aug,18 14:30
Once again. Nicely said, TWO! Not talking about Fate. Cain't do nuttin' bout dat! And man made disasters ARE preventable. It's just that we don't prevent them. Chernobyl, 3 Mile Island. Could mention Fukushima but that was both Fate and man not preparing enough safety features for an earthquake caused tidal wave. In a country on the 'Ring of Fire'...1980 Titan II with it's 9 Megaton warhead being blown out of it's silo, Goldsboro N. Carolina nuke, Palomares, Canada, Russian nuclear subs on the bottom of both oceans loaded with nuclear warheads AND their nuclear reactor propulsion units. (won't go into Soviet/Russian nuclear accidents and almost launches of their ICBM's nobody really knows about) Our own 'Scorpion' nuclear sub. As well as 'Thresher'. Just waiting to cause yet another disaster. (We have been lucky as hell!) But these future disasters have yet to rear their ugly heads. Will take years for the corrosive effects of huge pressures and salt water to slowly eat away at the metals containing them. But that's for 'our' **** (don't have any. Because of what I am saying) to deal with. Just like all the Financial disasters we have left for them. Could mention all the Financial 'badness' of man, but will just say...1929...'08 near total destruction of the World's Economies. BTW. We have NOT heard the end of that one...Bernie Madoff. Really, there are just TOO many others known and unknown like him to go into. Real problem is there is no 'inherent goodness' in man. Only greed, lust, gluttony, wrath, etc. are what is inherent in man'kind'. He has proven his destructive behavior since arriving on this tiny planet...Did we prevent Hitler? Did we prevent Stalin? All those too small to mention dictators that killed millions? Khmer Rouge, Ho Chi Minh, Idi Amin, Tojo Hideki...the list is just SO depressingly long. Sure, they All met their ends. But so long AFTER they caused mass genocides. As the population increases beyond Earth's means to support us, it will only get worse...did you know in 1800 there were ONLY 1 Billion people on the planet? It took 1800 Biblical (I **** the bibble) years to get there. Now just 218 years later, there are 7.5 Billion!!! Fucking be fun without responsibility!...I **** Geometry too! Doing the population math leads to NO good conclusions.
Ultimately, Man is his ONLY predator. As well as his ONLY population control...Nature at it's best means some UGLY shit is coming down the road.
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This is a PERFECT example of man's inherent corruption. Cannot even say such an innocent word as 'C H I L D R E N' in polite Society.
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Holy Fucking Shitballs!!! Cannot say 'H A T E' either!!! Mr. Orwell, I commend you on your foresight!...Bet all the 'bad' words I said here will be for all to see in their full glory...Says a LOT more than what took me too many long winded paragraphs to bloviate about

By kebmo at 22,Aug,18 15:25 other posts of kebmo 
Talks4s, you're posts aren't being replied to because you're a rambler. It's hard to address ten subjects with one answer. KISS, Keep it shorter Sam.

If you get a **** just click on Edit and change it instead of adding more to the post.
By #435701 at 22,Aug,18 15:39
Well, thank you so much, Kebmo... May I say, you just cannot see the connections in my 'rambling' posts? All the nuclear connections. All the historical connections. All the population connections to everything I said?...there have been studies on rats...sorry to equate humans in the same category...and how they reacted to overpopulation. We 'humans' are behaving in exactly the same way. Turning on each other in the political arena, nations highways, cities, countries.
And I would NOT ad stuff (even tho I like that way better) IF I saw what was being censored as it WAS being censored...
By kebmo at 22,Aug,18 22:08 other posts of kebmo 
When it actually comes down to using nuclear weapons there are people in the US that could thwart a Presidential decision for a nuclear strike. If a President goes (or is) insane, it is not guaranteed that his decision for a nuclear strike would be carried out. That's a good thing!!

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By #435701 at 23,Aug,18 15:07
It IS a good thing, kebmo!! It's just that SO many OTHER factors can happen to unleash nukes. Dangerous as I think trump is, there are NINE countries with 'deliverable' nukes. Along with their individual dangerous leaders...Can you say their is somebody in all these countries that can 'thwart' a nuclear strike? NO...Accidents? Like the ones I previously mentioned? NO...I understand. It IS so much easier to live life by the phrase; 'Ignorance is bliss'...I just WISH I could, also. But thank you for what you said. Nobody wants to believe the truth.
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BTW...Look @ what Valerie Plame had to say about nukes. Sorry I don't have a link, but she of ALL people would know what the actual TRUTH is about our nukes and who could launch America's nukes. Really. Spend some time and find her statements about US nukes. It's an EYE opener...IF you had read and checked on all the nuke 'things' I mentioned, you would see it is NOT so one sided as just US nukes...I DID mention Russia/Soviet Union and all THEIR near missed launches/accidents. We live in a World FULL of ICBM's now. U.S. Russia, China, Israel, France, Great Britain, Pakistan, India...N. Korea...Do you TRUST any of these OTHER countries to have the same safety features you 'think' WE have?...Think of a forest fire. A TINY spark ignites it. And then it GROWS to the frightening forest fires we are experiencing right now....Simple comparison...but so true if JUST one nuke goes off somewhere on our planet.

By kebmo at 23,Aug,18 04:16 other posts of kebmo 
I think Michael Cohen and Robert Muller know enough between them to put Donald Trump Jr. in jail.
There is so much more information to come out.
By Andthisisme at 23,Aug,18 04:37 other posts of Andthisisme 
I think that you may be right but have you heard what the great American public think about this issue. I have seen a number of vox pops and essentially a lot of the public think that all US politicianas are corrupt and Trump is no different and these issues don't bother them at all.
ALL US politicians should take heed of that opinion.
In my opinion this story will keep running but Trump will never be impeached, but I may be proven wrong.
Trump is just a liar, plain and simple. Having frequently and vehemently denied ever having paid any money to women to keep them quiet he now is taking the positio that what he did - but had previously denied doing - was not a breach of any law.
By kebmo at 23,Aug,18 05:01 other posts of kebmo 
I don’t think Trump wil finnish his term. By choice. He’s not having fun any more.

By kebmo at 21,Aug,18 14:48 other posts of kebmo 
The "WITCH HUNT" just bagged Michael Cohen and will probably bag Manafort today too.

Good hunting Mr. Mueller!!! Keep draining that swamp!!
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By kebmo at 22,Aug,18 02:46 other posts of kebmo 
Mueller bagged both of those witches. All in all it's a pretty successful hunt. I'm sure there are a lot more witches to bag.

The good guys are behind you Mr. Mueller!

There are 5 guilty pleas and over 150 charges laid... so far. The investigation is upon the doorstep of the White House. Cohen has a LOT of information to share. Trump dumped him so now he's going to dump Trump.

By kebmo at 17,Aug,18 05:12 other posts of kebmo 
Journalists are not the enemy.

Replacing a free media with a state-run media has always been a first order of business for any corrupt regime taking over a country. Today in the United States we have a president who has created a mantra that members of the media who do not blatantly support the policies of the current U.S. administration are the “enemy of the people.” This is one of the many lies that have been thrown out by this president much like an old-time charlatan threw out “magic” dust or water on a hopeful crowd.
“The liberty of the press is essential to the security of freedom,” wrote John Adams.
For more than two centuries, this foundational American principle has protected journalists at home and served as a model for free nations abroad. Today it is under serious threat. And it sends an alarming signal to despots, from Ankara to Moscow, Beijing to Baghdad, that journalists can be treated as a domestic enemy.

-The Boston Globe
By #562152 at 17,Aug,18 09:06
I can't believe that my country, the first country to propose freedom of the press, would be in a course to silence it,,shameful,
By phart at 20,Aug,18 00:40 other posts of phart 
I would never agree with Silence of the media.
THere will always be facts I don't want to hear.
BUT I want to hear or read facts, not bs,
The people wanting and expecting the truth from the media is not asking to much.
By kebmo at 20,Aug,18 08:37 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, keep in mind that in the US, anyone can pretty well say anything unless it's slanderous or libelous. If there's an audience, someone will say it.
I'm sure that the facts that are to your liking are being printed by someone somewhere.
By phart at 20,Aug,18 10:52 other posts of phart 
It is not allways the facts to my likeing I want to read,sometimes I simply want the truth about someone or something.And it is blantantly obvious the media,sponsered and paid for by advertiseing like on tv or news paper,makes more money when they print lies. If there is truth to what a liberal is saying,the messenger has to have the crediablity to be beleiveable. And I am sorry but the NYT's aint got much.
By kebmo at 20,Aug,18 11:04 other posts of kebmo 
Where do you think you can find the truth?
By Andthisisme at 20,Aug,18 16:10 other posts of Andthisisme 
One of the many things that concerns me about the stance Trump, and his acolytes, have on the media is that there is no reasoned explanation of what the fake news is. If the NYT or anyone else prints a story that is lies then surely the simple solution is to offer evdience to prove that this is true. Sadly all that we get is 'Fake News!' as slogan in place of a reasoned explanation of why the news is wrong.
What we in fact have is a situation where a politician who does not like what elements of the medea are saying cries 'Fake News !!' as a mantra as if that says all that needs to be said.

We have had spokeman for Trump talking about 'alternative truths' and now saying that 'Truth isn't truth'. What they both mean is that situations can be interpreted in a varous ways - that is totally true. interpreatationc can differ. But the truth is an absolute.

By phart at 20,Aug,18 16:32 other posts of phart 
If anyone can answer that,they need to write a book!

By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 16:29
I believe the truth can be found in the nine-eleven investigation, Eventually the truth will come out. Mr Trump paid for the destruction of the World Towers so his Trump tower would be more profitable,,
By kebmo at 21,Aug,18 20:06 other posts of kebmo 
TWM, I seriously doubt that.
By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 20:36
fake news?

By kebmo at 19,Aug,18 15:52 other posts of kebmo 
National Security Advisor John Bolton says that the US should be looking at countries other than Russia who might want to foil the mid term elections. He mentions that China, Iran and North Korea as possible threats.

Not a word about Trump's arch enemy Canada though. Eeeeeeeexcelent.
By phart at 20,Aug,18 00:38 other posts of phart 
I would say Nigerian hackers are in on it just like they are with other fraudulent actions and hacking.
Some of it may be routed thru russian servers to make it LOOK like they did it.
By kebmo at 21,Aug,18 04:25 other posts of kebmo 
Aren't they the ones with all of those rich Princes trying to get money out of the country? One of them said they'd send me $5 Million! I'm still waiting...

By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 09:53
A most distressing thought,,especially now that Canadian Bacon costs more than a car,,
By sinanff47 at 21,Aug,18 15:32 other posts of sinanff47 
In Canada, the US phrase 'Canadian Bacon' is NOT said of course. Without looking it up, do you know what we in Canada call it?
By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 15:50
I do not,,you have to know,,the only meat i mostly know that cums from Canada is,,,,,,
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But,,"bacon" cums to mind,,,maybe "ham"??
By sinanff47 at 21,Aug,18 17:14 other posts of sinanff47 
Yes, 'that' meat is also called 'a sausage' in Canada.

As for bacon, 'regular' bacon is called 'side bacon', since that's where is comes from, and the 'US so-called Canadian bacon' is called 'back bacon'.

Now, when you visit the beautiful Rocky Mountains in my Alberta, you'll know what to order for breakfast.
By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 17:17
Sinaff47 sausage??
By sinanff47 at 21,Aug,18 19:08 other posts of sinanff47 
Yes, and it comes attached to a 'delicious' Canadian guy.

By BushPilot at 16,Aug,18 17:13 other posts of BushPilot 
Chatting about the 'Donald" seems quite applicable here since he's considered an kiss a.s.
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By kebmo at 20,Aug,18 13:16 other posts of kebmo 
"Truth isn't truth."
-Rudy Giuliani

Bullshit is still bullshit though.
By Andthisisme at 20,Aug,18 16:00 other posts of Andthisisme 
What was he thinking when he said that ????
By kebmo at 20,Aug,18 16:27 other posts of kebmo 
He was actually referring to the difference between Trump's version of the truth and someone else's version of the truth.
He's a fucking idiot. Every time he opens his mouth he just reaffirms that truth.

It's right up there with Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts".
By Andthisisme at 20,Aug,18 16:54 other posts of Andthisisme 
There is only one truth. This is what annoys me; people can differ over interpretation of events or staistics that happens all the time and there are debates or discussions around this but this notion that Trump has a monopoly on truth and everyone elses interpreataion of a situation is fake news is truly worrying.
By kebmo at 20,Aug,18 19:40 other posts of kebmo 
What really worries me is that so many people believe what he says and follow him as a "leader".

"Just remember, what your seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening."

-Donald Trump
By phart at 20,Aug,18 23:20 other posts of phart 
Well it all depends on what the meaning of the word "IS " Is.

Forgive me,I just had to throw that in.
By Andthisisme at 21,Aug,18 10:21 other posts of Andthisisme 
One of my all time favourite responses by any politician about anything at all.

By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 09:54
He thinks??

By #545929 at 20,Aug,18 22:36
Remember that Rudy Giuliani is the one who said 'Where was Hillary Clinton on 911' when she was standing right next to him.

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By kebmo at 21,Aug,18 04:12 other posts of kebmo 
That's a very Trumpian statement.

By kebmo at 21,Aug,18 04:33 other posts of kebmo 
Microsoft said late Aug. 20th that they had thwarted Russian military hackers targeting US Senators and two think tanks. Microsoft took control of six sites.

-CNN News
By #562152 at 21,Aug,18 09:51
did they open the Windows??

By kebmo at 16,Aug,18 02:10 other posts of kebmo 
Nobody needs a "se.cret" tape to prove Trump is a racist. He is and everyone knows it. If such a tape did come out nothing would change because no one would actually be surprised.
By #562152 at 16,Aug,18 08:12
The premise that a revelation like that would hurt him has no merit. His supporters know he's a bigot, a back stabber, a degenerate, a liar, and a lying wife cheater. It makes me wonder what kind of people we really have in this country. I always thought that, even if we had dark patches in our history, we, as a people, kept going ahead with an Utopian style manner. I guess i was wrong. I'm 51 yrs old. I hope I live long enough for this stink to wash off from our national identity.
By #435701 at 20,Aug,18 13:47
Nicely stated TWTT52! On the other hand...I hope I die before everything blows the hell up!...Here's a quote from someone that is just so true..."There has never been a weapon created by man, that has NOT been used in Warfare."...Sort of stated that way. Know the ONLY weapon never used in war? The hydrogen bomb. The same weapon that tops all ICBM's in the US and Russian missile forces...Subs, too...Man'kind' has NEVER evolved away from his violent ways. Only his weapons have evolved in their destructive power...Just a matter of time. We can only hope there will be some 'small' nuclear exchange between say, India Pakistan? N. Korea and US forces in Asia?...As long as the 'big' boys do not unleash their nukes and learn a lesson from a small portion of the planet being fucked the hell up. Sad as this is, humans have NEVER...EVER learned from previous wars. After all, the 1st World War was THE war to end all wars! Then we had a 2nd MUCH worse war just about 25 years later. We are WAY overdue...The 3rd is coming in some fashion or other.

By kebmo at 19,Aug,18 06:07 other posts of kebmo 
Very often big time criminals are convicted on charges of tax evasion.
I hope Mueller has access to Trump's tax returns.
By #562152 at 19,Aug,18 09:55
would tax evation be a High Crime or Misdemeanor? That's what it would be needed to impeach Trump
By phart at 20,Aug,18 00:39 other posts of phart 
If he did it before he was president,how is it impeachable?
By #562152 at 20,Aug,18 07:02
That's why it was a question. Having said that. The President can be charged with regular crimes. That would make it hard for him to take care of the presidency

By kebmo at 17,Aug,18 06:44 other posts of kebmo 
In fiscal 2019 the US deficit will be about one trillion dollars. To put it in perspective, Canada's deficit in fiscal 2019 will be "only" $20 Billion. Canada has about one tenth of the US population. One tenth of one trillion is $100 Billion. A high end lifestyle requires an income that reflects it.

Have you seen the US National Debt Clock? It has a lot of interesting information.
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Canada also has a debt clock.
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By #562152 at 17,Aug,18 09:03
Canada's population of 37 million is just over 10% of the US, but, spending is not in linear perspective to size of the population. For many reasons, the annual spending of individuals is much more in the US. The US has changed in the last 60 yrs from a manufacturing/agricultural economy to a service economy. We have to import more because we don't have it

By kebmo at 15,Aug,18 14:55 other posts of kebmo 
I agree with Donald Trump. There, I said it.
Revoking the security clearance of people no longer in government is a good thing. Why would a former government official ever need access to the nation's tightest held secrets if they are no longer an elected member of the US government?
Some officials from the previous administration are still in office and require clearance but if you are out of office you just don't need it.
By Dmoney69 at 15,Aug,18 17:43 other posts of Dmoney69 
Thats not how it works..the clearance is so those who see the intel can discuss it with former officials who have experience dealing with specific issues. Its not like they send former bosses **** intel every week.
By kebmo at 15,Aug,18 19:59 other posts of kebmo 
Dmoney, I know that that is a rare scenario, probably more so with Trump's cabinet. I couldn't imagine Trump's inner circle asking someone from Obama's cabinet for advice!! If it so happens that it happens like that, the clearance could be reinstated temporarily and the conversation could be had.
I saw some of Obama's former cabinet saying that they haven't used it since leaving office. If I bought a new house I'd change the locks. If someone wanted to come into my house I would unlock the door for them then lock it after they leave, they don't need a key.

I do wonder if Obama and Hillary still have access.

By JustWill at 15,Aug,18 19:56 other posts of JustWill 
As Dmoney69 said, those officials usually retain their clearances so that they can consult with members of intelligence agencies after they have left their positions. Insight and experience can be very valuable.
Be that as it may, Trump did not revoke Brennan's clearances for "security reasons". He did it because Brennan frequently criticizes the Orange Overlord in public.
It was done, as so many things Trump does, out of spite and pettiness...nothing more.
By kebmo at 15,Aug,18 20:04 other posts of kebmo 
All of the people named today are people that have spoken negativly about Trump. Petty and spiteful? It sure is in this case but I still agree with the concept.
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I just heard someone say it better than I did.

"Why don't we just have everyone who has security clearance have that clearance reviewed once they leave government. "

How's that?

By #562152 at 16,Aug,18 08:25
Ex CIA director John Brennan, as head of the CIA, was privy to all the reactions of foreign governments and that makes him an invaluable asset in the inner circle of the white house. You say give him access only when needed?? Taking his security clearance takes only a signature,,reversing that takes time and in a national emergency that wont do. You don't have to like a neighbor to appreciate it when he knocks on your door to warn you your house is on fire.

By JustWill at 15,Aug,18 21:19 other posts of JustWill 
Donald Trump is the living personification of the Queen of Hearts from ALICE'S ADVENTURES IN WONDERLAND!

"Off with their credentials!"
By kebmo at 15,Aug,18 21:39 other posts of kebmo 
Tru dat.

That's kld speak for "I agree with your observation Will."

By #562152 at 16,Aug,18 08:17
"Hatred is the coward’s revenge for being intimidated",,,George Bernard Shaw. He is a coward of the highest order.

By kebmo at 12,Aug,18 08:54 other posts of kebmo 
The idea of Michael Avenatti, Stormy Daniel's lawyer, running for the Democratic leader was tossed around on CNN. I like it. The Democratic party NEEDS someone tough enough to go toe to toe with Trump. I think he could if he doesn't have too many skeletons in his closet.

It has already been demonstrated that you don't need political experience to become POTUS. He also has a history of taking on the big guy in court. Successfully.
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By #562152 at 14,Aug,18 10:15
I like Avenatti, but, he reminds me of a dark alley abortion doctor,,,i don't know why,,
By kebmo at 15,Aug,18 20:07 other posts of kebmo 
TWM, maybe he can abort Trump from the White House.
By #562152 at 16,Aug,18 08:03
Wrong hole, lollipop,,,to get rid of him you need lots of laxatives,,

By JustWill at 11,Aug,18 20:06 other posts of JustWill 
You know,if they would just stop playing the anthem at football games it would solve the problem for people on both sides of the idiotic argument.
By kebmo at 11,Aug,18 23:40 other posts of kebmo 
Yeah, I'm sure the beer drinking white fans would be just fine with that.
By JustWill at 11,Aug,18 23:52 other posts of JustWill 
What in hell does the anthem have to do with football, anyway?
The whole thing is as stupid as that "War on Christmas" crap.
By kebmo at 12,Aug,18 00:28 other posts of kebmo 
At the end of the war, after Japan announced it would surrender, NFL Commissioner Elmer Layden called for all of the league’s teams to play “The Star-Spangled Banner” at their games, arguing, “The National Anthem should be as much a part of every game as the kick-off. We must not drop it simply because the war is over. We should never forget what it stands for.”

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Play it after the game is over and watch it's importance diminish in a real hurry.

By #562152 at 14,Aug,18 10:04
it's not about the anthem. When John Carlos and Tommie Smith raised their black gloved fist in the 1968 Mexico summer olympics , they too were protesting a system that was anti black in this country. This happened as the national anthems were being played. It was, and is, a form of protest that should be allowed to continue. I don't agree with some of the actual events as they are described by the black community, but, i do agree that a double standard exits in the manner police treat people of color or ethnicity. Why not just let the protest continue? Just because a bigoted man is in the Oval Office shouldn't convince other powerful men to stand as a barrier to what, for all intents and purposes, is one of the most civil of protests. I would suggest to the players that if they are stopped, they should consider a strike. After all,,without their efforts the sport would be a poor shadow of what it is now.

By kebmo at 08,Aug,18 16:03 other posts of kebmo 
Chris Collins, his son and his son's fiancé's father are all charged with insider trading. They sold $1.4M in shares of a stock the day before it crashed because Collins got information that a medicine being tested failed tests. Allegedly. Collins is a Republican representative from New York and a fervent Trump supporter from Feb. 2016.

It appears that the swamp is being the FBI.

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Reversing a comment he made Aug 8, Collins said on Aug 11 that he will not run in the mid terms although he still maintains his innocence.
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By kebmo at 09,Aug,18 00:02 other posts of kebmo 
I got my allegedly in.
By phart at 09,Aug,18 10:43 other posts of phart 
I have yet to understand why that is a crime in the first place.Some one finds out there is a issue with a company and ditches the stock before it crashes and they wont loose any money.What's the big deal? Sounds like intelligence instead of criminal behavior.
It is just money as the democrats say? print some more.
By #562152 at 09,Aug,18 13:19
it's not against the law if you disclose that the buyer will loose his shirt on the deal...the law is to protect innocent buyers..same with a home sale,,,if you tell the realtor the roof is made of cheese, he has to disclose it to prospective buyers or possibly loose his licence and more
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bottom line???? big **** trying to protect you. like seat belts,,,smoking alerts,,weed usage (what's wrong with that???) and piloting aircraft while intoxicated,,
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******= B R O T H E R

By #435701 at 09,Aug,18 13:38
Hello Phart! Guessing you don't remember a story of a couple years ago. About how Congressional members get to see lots of 'insider' stuff about publically traded companies? And how it is NOT against the law for them to trade on this information??!!...As a daily options trader, I would LOVE to have the info THEY have and to be able to legally trade on it! I would be rich beyond my WILDEST dreams. Just another example of how life in Muricah is set for only the 'cream' of the upper echelons...of WHITE people in power....In case ya be awonderin'...I be whiter than the sheets I **** on!
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What?! I say again for perhaps the 10th time...S L EE P is now a BAD word?!
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IF I had the info Congress has and traded on it...I would be in prison for lots of years!! And get to see lots of dick sucking ...Do you think that is fair? Even IF I would really like to suck cock?
By #562152 at 10,Aug,18 13:19
why is dick sucking allowed but **** is not???
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By kebmo at 09,Aug,18 14:46 other posts of kebmo 
Phart, Collins is a board member of a pharmaceutical company and the company was running tests on a new that could make or break the company. After the tests failed, it was revealed to the members of the board before the information was revealed to the public. When this information went public, everyone knew that the company's stock would collapse. Collins didn't own any stock but his son and another friend did and Collins told them to sell their stock before the information became public and the stock collapsed. They sold their stock and by doing so prevented the loss of $768,000. All other stock holders lost all of the money that they invested into the company.
This is a copy/paste part of the article. Google insider trading to understand more.

The indictment doesn't allege that Collins himself traded on the information about the failed results of a trial, but that he passed the information to his son, Cameron Collins, so that the younger Collins could execute trades. And it alleges that the younger Collins passed the information to others, including his fiancee's father, Stephen Zarsky, who also traded on the information.
That allowed them, prosecutors allege, to avoid more than $768,000 in losses they would have incurred if they had traded the stock after the trial results became public. All three then lied about their actions to federal agents, according to the indictment.
"Congressman Collins cheated our market and our justice system in two ways," US Attorney Geoffrey Berman said at a news conference Wednesday. "First, he tipped his son to confidential corporate information at the expense of regular investors. And then he lied about it to the FBI to cover it up."
Collins and the other defendants pleaded not guilty in Manhattan federal court Wednesday afternoon. Each must pay a $500,000 personal recognizance bond.

By kebmo at 10,Aug,18 08:19 other posts of kebmo 
There is so much about the Mueller Investigation that nobody knows about. This guy is the coolest cucumber of all. Trump has been on his back since day one and he hasn't uttered a peep. He's professional and thick skinned. Everyone keeps speculating on what's going on but only he knows the whole story.
I trust him, his actions and his forthcoming decisions.
I think that between him and the FBI, the swamp is being (somewhat) drained.

Keep on hunting witches Sir!!
By #562152 at 10,Aug,18 13:16
There's hope in DC yet,,,now if we could find out what happened in area 52,,well,,

By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 18:23
The only president that ever made sense,,the only one that was able to bring the country forward,,the only president that i would vote for again is THE GREAT OBAMA,,,all else are farts in the wind
By phart at 09,Aug,18 10:45 other posts of phart 
I thought you said you liked Carter? I still have some of his brothers beer in the basement.
By #562152 at 09,Aug,18 10:55
Oh my G_D,,I forgot about that,,collectors items for sure,,,
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and i do love Mr Jimmy,,i'd give him many kisses and other things, but, as a president,,he sucked the big one in a nice way
By phart at 09,Aug,18 11:31 other posts of phart 
I don't think the cans held up well but still,a good conversation piece for sure.
25 years ago I met a old man that was around during the time of Calvin Coolidge. He griped about that man more than the price of gas. Said he was a DO NOTHING president. I just said ok as I was not around back then! Carter is 1 of those that does good for people,building houses and such and seems like a genuine person. But as you said,just didn't quite cut it as prez. I still remember very well the iran hostage thing.I was in a hospital bed watching tv when he was in germany I think shaking the hands of the hostages and such.
By #562152 at 09,Aug,18 12:54
yes, and i remember the ultimate insult,,the ayatollah insisted ronald regan the president elect collect the hostages and Mr Jimmy had to swallow that

By JustWill at 03,Aug,18 09:49 other posts of JustWill 
Since taking office, Trump has lied/made misleading statements to the American people 4,229 times (as of 8/1/2018 )
That's an average of 7.6 lies a day.
Here is a sampling:
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By kebmo at 03,Aug,18 13:01 other posts of kebmo 
Crazy eh?
Do you know how to tell Donald Trump is lying? His lips are moving or he posts a tweet!
Oh yeah, also a HUGE tell is every time he uses the terms "in history" or "believe me". Whatever he's referring to when he uses those terms is a GUARENTEED lie.
By phart at 03,Aug,18 14:21 other posts of phart 
Tit for tat,the same comparison was made for Obummer.
If you h@te someone bad enough, you can ruin them somehow if you set your mind to it. I still think we are better off than with the other choice,a 3rd term of Obummer thru Hitllary.
By kebmo at 03,Aug,18 14:39 other posts of kebmo 
Neither Obama or Clinton currently run the country. "Yeah but what about…." I tire of that line. Whataboutism.
By JustWill at 03,Aug,18 14:42 other posts of JustWill 
It's actually the only argument they have, though!
By kebmo at 03,Aug,18 15:02 other posts of kebmo 
"Yeah but what about your ex husband or that other guy you dated? They lied to you more." See? It just doesn't cut it.
By phart at 04,Aug,18 10:48 other posts of phart 
Ok then,so you think the Whataboutism is a problem.
Ok,You throw dirt at our President but yet expect no return fire,and discredit any and all reply's. It is not a cope out argument to express or wonder what the other choice would have done as it would illustrate your argument has no basis either.They would not satisfy everyone either. They would lie in the opposing party's opinion as well..
I compare your statement about whataboutism being our only argument to the fact that NO ONE has had the gonads to say just WHO would do a better job at Prez. You can't answer because you don't know perhaps?we are all guilty of that because of all the media hype.Or you just won't answer because of no defense?
We gota get over that hurdle of not discussing other people as options later as time will go on. We have to all understand each others side to find the middle.Murky but the middle none the less so we can solve world hunger and the energy crisis in a responsible manner without making everyone walk and catch their farts in jars.
By Mazinga at 04,Aug,18 12:30 other posts of Mazinga 
In my lifetime experience with current and former
presidents, I can say that ALL poliTICKcians are dweebises.
And that is just my opinion.
Some of their ideas I've agreed with, and some of their
ideas I've disagreed with.
They've all done their fair share of good and bad.
But in my eyes, they're also assholes.

In this previous election, our country did NOTHING to
produce Quality candidates for the Presidential Office.
Everyone was too busy sucking up 'Reality' TV shows;
chasing Pokemon creatures throughout the city
( oh, what a Perfect sky-blue harmonious day That was! );
and guzzling down pisswater generic Keystone beer in
their backyards while gossiping about one another.
Meanwhile, every poliTICKal assclown and his/her mother
came out of the wood-works like maggots hoping to
get at that prized carcass.
NONE of those "candidates" were qualified for Office,
and I naturally don't give a fuck what anyone thinks.

No matter who I voted for, or against, it was always
gonna result in yet another asshole in Office.
And, boi, did we end up with an ultimate Asshole

All the racist sKKKumbags rallied behind him; they were
always too chickenshit to speak their racist xenophobic
homophobic hateful minds openly in public because they
knew their asses whould get handed to them by an
overwhelming community of united American Citizens
who do not tolerate all that racism and prejudice.

SHITHOLE said everything the racist sKKKum wanted to hear.
It's no surprise to me how much racism there is here
in America, as it was always hidden and inbred for
generations until it was emboldened by SHITHOLE
to come out and act on it.
That is some powerful koolaide there it rivals the
one served by the former Reverend asshole Jim Jones!
And the masses of racist sKKKumbags drank that shit up
like sheeple sucking a huge tit!
Their only reason why they voted for and elected
the Orange SHITHOLE was to
"get that n*gger out of office!"...

My country in which I was born and raised has become
So Full-RETARD we've become the laughing stock
of the entire world. Basically a swamp of CRACK WHORRES.
And that Retardation is getting worse by the hour!
I served my country for THIS?????

They bashed "Obummer" for eight long years,
Now it is the SHITHOLE'S turn to get the same treatment.

All previous poliTICKal assclowns aside;
We're not discussing them. They'll get their 15 minutes
of fame in school History books later on.

We're discussing The Genuine SHITHOLE now.

You're welcome.

By JustWill at 04,Aug,18 13:27 other posts of JustWill 
Here's the problem:
We KNOW what the scumbag in the White House is doing. There is daily proof of his incompetence and lies. We have evidence of the damage he is doing, both here and around the world. Our complaints are all PROVABLE--and we can cite FACTS to support what we say. The "wrongness" of Trump is observable.
Your "whataboutism" is based on speculation and conjecture. You can say what you BELIEVE may have happened if someone else had been elected, but that is just make-believe. Since your "whatabouts" never actually happened, your argument is based on nothing but fantasy and supposition. You have no tangible evidence to support your claims. It is a lame argument by virtue of the fact that pretend scenarios prove nothing.
You keep asking "who would do a better job?", but that's the wrong question. Trump sucks as president--he demonstrates that constantly.
The question you should be asking is: Could anyone else possibly do a worse job?
By Mazinga at 04,Aug,18 13:40 other posts of Mazinga 
Trump is the SHITHOLE our country's Founding Fathers
warned us about. That warning is clearly evident in
plain simple English in the U.S. Constitution.

History exists for a reason, and THIS is a big reason
why it exists.

What boggles my mind is that so many people who
support the SHITHOLE are so happily stuck on STUPID
they don't give a fuck about how THEY have turned
our country upside down.

And they have the audacity to claim "patriotism"
while supporting a TRAITOR.
Just like Jack White sang in one of his songs,
"You can't be a piimp and a prosstitute, too".

By phart at 04,Aug,18 13:53 other posts of phart 
Yea,someone could do a worse job, look back a few years before him.
I have not saw CREDIBLE evidence yet Trump has done anything to interfere with his actual job,leading the US.
Yes,alot of stuff has been brought up. But proof? Well, a lying tax cheating lawyer is going say whatever it takes to get him a lesser sentence.
Find what you think is a honest man to run for office and leave it to CNN or the New York newspaper.They will conjure up dirt on him. They make money doing it,so they are highly motivated.

I put little stock in what a aging out porn star has to say about a "affair" she had with a billionaire.She is looking to capitalize on the situation and exercise her "power" as a woman to bring down the prez. She was paid to shut up and signed a paper saying she would. So if she will lie there, she will lie elsewhere. IF it even happened.And if it did,she dropped her panties for a billionaire. Most women would.

As for Russia, would you rather be bitching about Trump starting a nuclear war with them as you glow in the dark in some bunker? Or have them sitting down discussing the democrats claims?
There are also what called Rhino's. Republican in name only.
They are just as willing to be traitors to their party if it gets them 5 minutes of fame.

By kebmo at 04,Aug,18 21:37 other posts of kebmo 
Who would do a better job than Donald Trump you ask?

I think compassion is a very beneficial trait of a world leader. If you're a compassionate person you are more likely to care for your populace as a whole and not just individual segments of it.
The ability to unite your people is also paramount to effective leadership. Not all will agree on every topic but general agreement is not an insurmountable task.
Being respected by your populace is also beneficial to a leader because you also have to make tough decisions. Respect and trust go hand in hand so if they respect you they will be more inclined to trust your choices when you have to make the tough decisions that come with leadership.
Things like compassion, trust and benevolence are not signs of weakness, in fact they are signs of strength because it takes great confidence to be a compassionate leader and a confident leader inspires those that they lead.

You asked me who would do a better job than Trump so I just described that person to you. Whatabout that person as president? I don't know who it is but it sure isn't Donald Trump.
By phart at 04,Aug,18 22:49 other posts of phart 
I think we can agree,it would be difficult for either party to find a person with those quality's.That is 1 of the reasons I always ask the question.
I am bumfuzzled myself by my own question. 20 years ago I would have thought maby Lee Iaccoca. Or before he turned on the US and supported Obama, Colin Powell.

I can't disagree with those quality's you mention being important,only a idiot would. Those quality's are not confused with weakness by the US citizen nearly as much as by our foreign enemy's. Try compassion with a enemy with the mindset of Bin Laden for example.It would only lead to more loss of life.
For a person to respect and appreciate compassion,trust and benevolence, they themselves must possess those quality's.
Just how much real compassion do you think Little Rocket man possesses in his heart? I doubt enough to fill a thimble.
Therefore with that sad reality in place,a leader must also have what can be condensed from a large number of fancy words down to a few. He or she must at least figuratively speaking, have BALLS to stand up to a enemy and face them.

By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 11:30
I agree with you JustWill, but,,it's like trying to climb a greased flag pole,,,I've been getting active on the forums and finally realized,,I don't get laid any extra by ranting about that asshole (Mr President Trump),,,in 2 yrs and 5 months he'll be gone or maybe 6 yrs and 5 months,,then, the country will pick itself up, and like it's always has done,,it will get good again. Until then, i hope Fox News and CNN get into a huge fight in times square, may the biggest liar win,,
By JustWill at 08,Aug,18 12:09 other posts of JustWill 
I actually get laid MORE for ranting here. My partner, who is also not a Trump fan, doesn't let the idiocy bother him as much as it bothers me. If I vent in the forum instead of to him, he is much happier--and I get more naked time as a result.
By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 12:12
Well,,,at least there's a good thing coming out of it,,sounds like your partner has a caring lover,,,
By JustWill at 08,Aug,18 12:17 other posts of JustWill 
Will's Life Rule #3: You've got to take care of the people who take care of you!
By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 16:58
@ JustWill,,,my pussy is known as the Florence Nightingale of relations

By kebmo at 08,Aug,18 22:24 other posts of kebmo 
You're welcome Will.

By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 16:56
Fake news, buddy,,i know it was 4,228 times,,get it right,,

By kebmo at 05,Aug,18 15:39 other posts of kebmo 
CNN was interviewing a bunch of Trump supporters at a rally as they waited for the doors to open and a bunch of them had "Q" signs. The reporter started asking them what Q was. These people are cult members through and through. Not one had any idea what it really "is" when the reporter pressed them and asked about it.
"They're running the country."
"They're the CIA arming the fake news."
"They're the Clintons and Obamas trying to take over the government."

Crazy is overtaking US politics.
By phart at 05,Aug,18 16:39 other posts of phart 
Stupidity is helping crazy overtake.
No one said all trump supporters are smart. At least I didn't. There is a guy down the road here that had all kinds of signs and manikins wearing hats and all in his yard and he would give a thumbs up to me as I went by with my trump sticker on the car and I saw him flip the bird to someone with a Clinton sticker.His yard looked ridicules.
There are over-boarders in all segments of society.

By JustWill at 08,Aug,18 12:11 other posts of JustWill 
In a recent survey, over 40% of the Republicans who participated said that Trump should have the power to shut down news outlets.
Why doesn't this kind of shit scare people more?
By phart at 08,Aug,18 13:23 other posts of phart 
hard to say,I aint even that far of the scale. I would think he should be able to ask a committee or something to look into something that he considers a problem.But 1 man having the power to shut off a media source,that could be a slippery slope.

By #562152 at 08,Aug,18 16:55
Who said it didn't scare??? That is one of the scariest things i've ever heard in my 51 yrs of life. What's more, the way he's supported it could happen. I'd like to know what percentage of the population would rise up and have a revolution if that happened? (BTW, my name is 'OSE JIMENEZ and I live in Arizonia.)

By #563464 at 06,Aug,18 05:59
I love Trump. His inauguration was the most epic in history. "I gotta get a grip, you saw me squat." - President Trump
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By kebmo at 06,Aug,18 06:35 other posts of kebmo 
I love it!

By kebmo at 03,Aug,18 23:10 other posts of kebmo 
Donald Trump on Vladimir Putin: "We got along really well and that's a good thing, it's not a bad thing, it's a good thing."
Getting along with members of the G7 would also be a good thing.
By JustWill at 03,Aug,18 23:55 other posts of JustWill 
But the members of the G7 didn't help to get him elected...

To date, none of Trump's advisers know what he talked about with Putin during their meeting in Helsinki. None. The only information they (and the American people) have to go on comes from Putin and his people. Think about that. We have to get our information from the leader of Russia instead of from our own President. That's not only fucked-up, it's pretty damn suspicious.
By kebmo at 04,Aug,18 00:01 other posts of kebmo 
Bill Maher is on. Can't talk. He's back from vacation.
By phart at 04,Aug,18 10:40 other posts of phart 
I hit something like a = mark or something don't know what it was.
Anyhow. Some could say it really is not alot of our business what they talked about. We elected Trump and that means we trust him to do the job he was put in for.
Everyone seems to forget Bush Jr driving Putin around his ranch in his f350 years ago.There is photos of it out there on the net.Google it. Do we know everything that was said then? At the very least you have to admit being just the 2 of them in a truck out on a open pasture there was room for private conversation.Or smoking a joint or whatever. For all we know the info we were given was something wrote up in the White house basement by a 14 year old.
We can't verify the truth.
The world will be a better place when Russia and the US can get along.

By phart at 27,Jul,18 12:10 other posts of phart 
I just read this morning that over 50 Americans that were lost in North Korea were able to finally come home.
The meeting between Trump and Kim was most of the reason why.
Now,I am sure if you try hard enough,you will find a way to put a negative spin that news.To me it is good news and will bring a small amount of comfort to family's here in the US.
Question,do any of you feel like Hillary would have sat down with Kim and at least began talks to accomplish even the smallest of goals such as bringing home our dead?

It is my opinion, that her attitude would be,"what difference will it make".
By kebmo at 27,Jul,18 14:47 other posts of kebmo 
Their repatriation is a great thing.

By #557142 at 27,Jul,18 15:42
Hmmm, a friend to the dead and a mortal enemy to the living

By JustWill at 27,Jul,18 21:23 other posts of JustWill 
The repatriation of those remains is, indeed, a good thing. I am happy that those families can finally lay their loved ones to rest on American soil and get a bit of closure.
I am sure that it was all Trump's idea to ask for that to happen.
He is truly the bestest president ever!
I am glad that Putin helped to get him elected.

Here's a question for you:
President Obama got Osama bin Laden. Had him killed as dead as a door nail. Does that mean that you'll agree that he, too, was the bestest president ever? (Surely one dead mastermind of the 9/11 attacks is at least equal to the repatriated remains of 50 soldiers, no?)