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 | The elections are coming (Nov. 3, 2020). By the tittle you'll guess whom i WONT vote for, but that got me thinking. Who would I vote for? And why? That gave me an idea. Why not ask whom you'll vote for and why? You can come back and change your choice as many times as you like. Republicans can substitute some other Republican for Trump. Hopefully he will be gone forever by that time. It would be nice if you identify your political party (Ex: I'm R or I'm D) Lets see who gets it right on Nov 4.  |
Similar topics: 1.Anthropological study 2.TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME 3.No Collusion. 4.Rain stops Trump 5.TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME analysis.
2022 is a chance to neuter the dems before they really fuck things up.the following 2 years will be boring, inactive and perhaps a down right recession, but at least our country as a whole will survive.
The Worst Outcome
If somebody other than Donald Trump were in the White House, the coronavirus crisis would not be unfolding this way.
DAVID FRUM
MARCH 11, 2020
President Donald Trump
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At every turn, President Trump’s policy regarding coronavirus has unfolded as if guided by one rule: How can I make this crisis worse?
Presidents are not all-powerful, especially not in the case of pandemic disease. There are limits to what they can do, for good or ill. But within those limits, at every juncture, Trump’s actions have ensured the worst possible outcomes. The worst outcome for public health. The worst outcome for the American economy. The worst outcome for American global leadership.
Read: Trump’s dangerously effective coronavirus propaganda
Trump’s Oval Office speech of March 11 was the worst action yet in a string of bad actions.
Here are the things the president did not do in that speech.
He offered no guidance or policy on how to prevent the spread of the disease inside the United States. Should your town cancel its St. Patrick’s Day parade? What about theatrical productions and sporting events? Classes at schools and colleges? Nothing.
He offered no explanation of what went wrong with the U.S. testing system, nor any assurance of when testing would become more widely available. His own previous promises of testing for anyone who needs it have been exploded as false. So what is true? Nothing.
Layoffs are coming, probably on a very large scale, as travel collapses and people hunker down at home. Any word for those about to lose their jobs? Only the vaguest indication that something might be announced sometime soon.
It’s good to hear that there will be no co-pays on the tests nobody seems able to get. What about other health-care coverage? Any word on that? Nothing.
The financial markets have plunged into a 2008-style crash, auguring a recession, perhaps a severe one. The Trump administration has had almost two months to think about this crisis. It has trial-ballooned some ideas. But, of course, fiscal policy would require assent from the House of Representatives. Trump is still pouting at Speaker Nancy Pelosi. So—aside from some preposterously unconvincing happy talk about the economy—again: nothing.
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There was one something in the speech: a ban on travel from Europe, but not the United Kingdom. It’s a classic Trump formulation. It seeks to protect America by erecting a wall against the world, without thinking very hard how or whether the wall can work. The disease is already here. The numbers only look low because of our prior failure to provide adequate testing. They will not look low even four days from now. And those infected with the virus can travel from other countries and on other routes. Trump himself has already met some.
The travel ban is an act of panic. Financial futures began crashing even as Trump was talking, perhaps shocked by his lack of an economic plan, perhaps aghast at his latest attack on world trade. (The speech seemed to suggest an embargo on European-sourced cargo as well, but that looks more like a mental lapse of Trump’s than a real policy announcement. The ban on cargo was retracted by a post-speech tweet, although the ban remains in the posted transcript of the speech.) Among other things, the ban represents one more refutation by Trump of any idea of collective security against collective threats. While China offers medical assistance to Italy, he wants to sever ties to former friends—isolating America and abandoning the world.
This crisis is not of Trump’s making. What he is responsible for is his failure to respond promptly, and then his perverse and counterproductive choice of how to respond when action could be avoided no longer. Trump, in his speech, pleaded for an end to finger-pointing. It’s a strange thing for this president of all presidents to say. No American president, and precious few American politicians, have ever pointed so many fingers or hurled so much abuse as Donald Trump. What he means, of course, is: Don’t hold me to account for the things I did.
But he did do them, and he owns responsibility for those things. He cannot escape it, and he will not escape it.
More people will get sick because of his presidency than if somebody else were in charge. More people will suffer the financial hardship of sickness because of his presidency than if somebody else were in charge. The medical crisis will arrive faster and last longer than if somebody else were in charge. So, too, the economic crisis. More people will lose their jobs than if somebody else were in charge. More businesses will be pushed into bankruptcy than if somebody else were in charge. More savers will lose more savings than if somebody else were in charge. The damage to America’s global leadership will be greater than if somebody else were in charge.
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There is always something malign in Trump’s incompetence. He has no care or concern for others; he cannot absorb the trouble and suffering of others as real. He monotones his way through words of love and compassion, but those words plainly have no content or meaning for him. The only thing that is real is his squalid vanity. This virus threatens to pierce that vanity, so he denied it as long as he could. What he refuses to acknowledge cannot be real, can it?
And even now that he has acknowledged the crisis, he still cannot act, because he does not know what to do. His only goal now is to shove blame onto others. Americans have to face the fact that in the grip of this pandemic, the Oval Office is for all practical purposes as empty as the glazed eyes of the man who spoke from that office tonight.
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THIS APPEARED IN “THE ATLANTIC “ AND IF ANYONE OF YOU FOOLS START SHOUTING FAKE NEWS, THIS WRITER WAS THE SPEECH WRITER FOR PRES BUSH. THE ATLANTIC IS ALSO A VERY RESPECTED PUBLICATION BY ALL SIDES.
I haven't heard any blame onto others lately from Trump
He did say this morning to the media that the deal Dems are pushing has some goodies in it not related to the virus is the reason he is not for it.
Shame they would try to squeeze in something. Should be a bare bones, address the issues at hand deal.
Trump is no saint. Anyone in that office would be stared at and badmouthed about something.
I don't think Trump wants us dead
When you have to dig that deep to find something to talk shit about,it erases other crap ye say.NOT You in this discussion ,I am talking about the critics.
The sad thing is,I am afraid I our Prez may have been set up to be exsposed to the virus.THat brazilian tested positive that was hovering all around Trump over the weekend. Sadly the dems would be dancing in the streets if he died from it instead of being angry about our President dieing.
You know ol biden said he was going to SHUT DOWN the virus.
It about shut him down instead.
He must be on some powerful shit to have recovered so well. Most people his age croak out with it.
If he ever had it.Could have been a batch of bad test.
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Fat shit little naziboy coprophagia addict will be maggot food soon.
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When it comes to naziboy coprophagia addicts, I shoot first, ask questions never
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Frankly,She should be under the jail for threatening people.
I think regardless of political views,to blantantly threaten others with a virus that could kill,should be treated as a crime.
Apparently not in her state either.
There was a supposed case 2 hours from me a week or 2 ago but it has disappeared off the radar. Alot of info that was on the web 2 days ago,is not avaliable anymore.There is reason for concern.
I can not fathom our countrys condition right now had Trump not got in office.
You can bet your guns would be threatened much more than they are now.
I don't own but a couple older guns that are not worth stealing. But I'll be damned if some sumbitch is going to take them away!
With that said who is the best candidate that will maintain this constitutional requirement? Sanders is a socialist and the rest of the challengers want to take your guns away, no more free speech with open borders..Raise Taxes and murder babies AFTER they are born.. ITs called BREAKING THE LAW!
There is only one person that will abide by our constitutional law to the best of his ability.. Guess Who It is?
(I promise not to make illegal deals with foreign powers to investigate rivals in the 2020 elections..........AGAIN)
Since when is socialism a dirty word? This country is full of socialistic laws (Social Security, unemployment insurance, minimum wage, food stamps, disability insurance, Obama-care, public hospitals, forty hour work week, etc)
Taking your guns away (really, really difficult) would be a Constitutional thing and a choice of the people, not just one person running for the presidency. You do know about that other document that is older than the Pledge of Aliegence? It starts like this,
"We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
That's "WE, THE PEOPLE". Something you right wingers seem to forget. Only your view is right. The other part of the country got it wrong.
Raise Taxes and murder babies AFTER they are born. Tell me when has a born baby been murdered except by lunatic parents and stray bullets?
Breaking the law is what this current president, this jerk and laughing stock of the world, did. Probably will do again.
The president is aquitted therefore he is innocent.. No evidence is presented other than your hopes of fantasy.. There is no evidence to support him doing this other than the democrats word which has lied and continuting to lie throughout history. They know they can't compete with the truth so they lie and point fingers.. Turns out they cheated in the election but STILL LOST... People voted for trump becuase he was the best candidate,, not because ome russian KGB agent or agency forced people to vote through mind bending tricks..
Actually it is the Left is the laughing stocks.. and you are enhancing... Look at you..You're their little bending over bitch...
The reason he gives us the inspiration and love required to be americans, perhaps for the first time since the kennedy assassination and coup by democrats.West Virginia still has jobs, ohil, PA MI, Wi are in a better position since 2001 from the 8-11 attack.
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BTW, That 5th of scotch must have gone down smooth.
Democrats and false or rhino "republicans" is MIGHT MAKES RIGHT
Conservatives(not neccessarily Republican) is Right makes Might...
During the 1990s, the Nordic countries shifted from Socialism Mach 5 (an open, free and competitive economy with very high marginal tax rates) to something between Socialism Mach 6 and Socialism Mach 7. While the details differ from one to another country, marginal tax rates were reduced to moderate levels, and various aspects of social insurances and social services were privatized. For example, parents could choose between government and nongovernment schools, and hospitals contracted-out many services. The reason for the shift was the relative stagnation that beset the Nordic countries. While the United States once enjoyed a standard of living only 70 percent of Sweden’s; by the 1990s, Sweden enjoyed a standard of living only 70 percent of the United States.
According to the latest edition of Economic Freedom in the World, Norway is the #25 country in the world and Sweden #43, out of 162; with the United States #6, and Singapore and Hong Kong first and second.
Germany describes its amalgam of free-markets and social insurance as the “social market.” Chile, with its privatization of Social Security, could be said to have moved completely to Mach 1 capitalism. The United States, somewhat uniquely among capitalist countries, practices extensive credit-socialism, and has a national government as well as many home-owners and students deeply in debt. There are positive and negative things to say about many real-world capitalist countries; but nobody - not even Ocasio-Cortez - wants to be associated with real-world socialist countries.
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The point is that those nordic countries, at one time, had a very strong socialistic system. They did some changes to be more equal to our capitalistic system.
Their system is best described as compassionate capitalism.
The Nordic countries practice mostly free market economics paired with high taxes exchanged for generous government entitlement programs.
First, it is worth noting that the Nordic counties were economic successes before they built their welfare states. Those productive economies, generating good incomes for their workers, allowed the governments to raise the tax revenue needed to pay for the social benefits. It was not the government benefits that created wealth, but wealth that allowed the luxury of such generous government programs.
In other words, they had very generous programs to help their citizens, and that's what Sanders and other "Democratic Socialism" proponents want. To you and people with your mind-set, you automatically think Venezuela, Cuba, and such. No one wants that.
What I want is a successful economy with safety programs for the less fortunate or poorer citizens. You can have a super-powerful military without the huge expenses of Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, or N Korea.
This should make you happy. This makes your point........ kinda.
America’s is a mixed economy and so are Scandinavian countries’. It is the mixture that differs.
As someone who grew up under socialism and is still, barely, in his 30s, I hope to relate a few ideas to the young people who are “feeling the Bern.” First, Sanders is not a socialist, but a social democrat. Second, the United States does not have a strictly capitalist economy, but a mixed one. As such, it combines a high level of private ownership of capital and the means of production with relatively onerous regulation and taxation. Third, to the extent that what anti‐capitalist Sanders supporters really want is a Scandinavian‐style social democracy, with its high level of wealth redistribution and income equality, they should consider that even some of the most socially democratic countries on earth are, in one crucial way, more capitalist than the United States.
The idea, Petro, is what's best for our people.
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And Mr Blue is right. Both, Norway and Sweden have a military with both also having an Army Reserve.
Look at how we spend our money in US vs Norway or Sweden. We have bigger house. So we probably spend a bigger percentage of our income on homes. They have smaller home because it more expensive so they can only afford a much smaller place. Because they spend more money on taxes I would say.
In the US everyones has a car because you need one to get around and go to work. We have spend our money and buy a car. So we can't spend that money on taxes to pay for national heath care. Their are probably so many little different thing that people are not thinking about or don't know because we don't live in Norway. They have great vacation times off. They get like 30 day off every year. That normal to them we work 70 hours a week take very little time off.
We would have live the whole Norway life style to have the same benefits or cut spending like the biggest one is our military. Who want to cut the military to same size as Norway ? That's no aircraft carriers and stealth bombers, probably no drones and probably no nuclear submarines.
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As far as the insane amount of money we spend on the military, I don't believe we have to. If we stop these non-ending wars, we could still have the same military but with much less cost. One to one Norway is pretty identical to the US including transportation (cars), housing, energy. The point is that they have better safety nets than the US.
You keep saying, "we have these costs so we can't get into more debt. I think that's false. It's backwards. If we have to spend more to help our people, then, by all means, spend less on military, encourage families to be more frugal. Stop crazy projects like building a useless wall on our southern border. Limit presidential campaigns to 6 months duration and only special public money be used to finance it. All candidates have the same amount.
Maybe other people will comment. I don't think people want to pay that much money to have a system like Norway. It would require a big change to your average American. Let's see who get elected as the next president and see if Americans like the idea.
So if you look at it the dems are lying that a right wing exists. in the middle of the bird is the truth and pure morality.
You're so fucking dumb I can't believe it. You change your name because nobody even likes you here.. The country is being dragged into the mud from people like you.
So believe this: this dumb blonde believes the world would come out the winner if you would stop using oxygen.
Nobody likes you here.. Beat it..
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President Donald Trump on Wednesday placed Vice President Mike Pence in charge of the US government response to the novel coronavirus, amid growing criticism of the White House's handling of the outbreak.
At a wide-ranging White House news conference, the President defended the White House's response, stressing the administration's ongoing efforts and resources devoted to combating the virus.
"Because of all we've done, the risk to the American people remains very low," Trump said.
The President did not close the door to Senate Democrats' call for more than $8 billion in emergency funding for anti-coronavirus efforts, despite Democrats' dramatic jump from the $2.5 billion in total funding proposed by the White House.
"We'll spend whatever is appropriate. Hopefully, we won't have to spend so much because we really think that we've done a great job in keeping it down to a minimum," Trump said.
I UNDERSTAND HIS FIRST SUGGESTION IS TO PUT YOUR HEAD BETWEEN YOUR LEGS AND KISS YOUR ASS GOODBYE.
I have always felt like term limits were in the best intrest of the country and it should stay the way it is.BUT at the same time, this past 3 years for Trump have been made very difficult for him to do what he was elected to do because of the losing parties constant harrasment. VERY unfair that has happened. Hopefully once he is reelected, the nay sayers numbers in congress will be reduced to a point they are simply crying babies in the corner of the room and Trump can get downt to FIXING things instead of beating back the hounds of the democrats.
The first two years of his presidency, Trump had control of the House and the Senate. He has packed the Supreme Court with conservatives. This last year he has the control of the Senate to block all legislation. He OWNS the Justice department. How much more does he need to "succeed"? Oh! Wait a minute, I know. He needs a regiment of SS troops to jackboot their way through dissenters. Maybe he can declare himself "El Supremo" for life.
And, while we are at it, why should the dems (28% of the voters) move aside? Why not the repubs (also 28%)? Why not we all step aside and let the independents (41% of the voters) fix what, supposedly, both our parties fucked up?
Is anyone able to explain the "common law" marriage aspect as it relates to Canada? Google states common law marriages are not legal yet they are recognized IF you live together for 12 continuous months OR if you have a child/children together and there was a third OR. I guess what I am hoping to understand is; 1) can you claim your "spouse" on your income tax and 2) should the union dissolve, is there a possibility that alimony would be paid?
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WELL, ONE MORE TIME TRUMPO BAILED OUT. SO THIS IS HOW HE TAKES CARE OF THE ECONOMY? THE DOW IS GOING DOWN THE TUBES AND HE'S GALLIVANTING IN INDIA PLAYING GUNGA DIN
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Would Alfred Deakin have acted like this joke of a president? I bet not.
Trump’s alleged attempt to strong-arm Ukraine into smearing a political opponent fits well within this framework. Using the office of the president for personal political benefit comports with both the standard understandings of bribery and the broader category of high crimes and misdemeanors.
Voting Ukranians are not the problem (not possible).Trump tried to rig the election by getting dirt against an opposing candidate. Now, if he had gone to the Justice Department, a branch of the executive branch (the president) and asked the head of it to investigate the Bidens, he would have been ok. Congress had voted to help the Ukraine by granting money and materiel. This was a lawful order by Congress and the President had no authority to interfere. He did interfere. He withheld this help until the Ukrainian president agreed to investigate Biden Jr and the connection to his father, VicePresident Biden. This is unlawful action in the United States and qualifies under High Crimes and Misdemeanors as reason to impeach.
The second part of his impeachment is that he, in the best legal description of English Law, obstructed justice by not allowing witnesses to tell the truth or testify.
These were not trumped up charges. The transcript of the call to the Ukrainian president was actually released by THE WHITE HOUSE (Trump himself). He also, famously, a few weeks later, verbally asked the Chinese the same in a televised news blurb on the White House lawn.
He's not a man's man. Reagan was a man's man. Clinton was a man's man. Putin is a man's man. Obama is a man's man. This jerk buys his way through life on the money his daddy left him. I don't put down a man (or a woman either) for licking to grab pussy. I do put him down for not asking for permission first. I don't think you like to go to the supermarket and have the produce manager grab your snatch. I certainly don't and this is from a self described slutty whore. BTW, Hilary is a non-issue. It happened 3 yrs ago. When will it be time to let that one pass and actually have this jerk of a president own up to his fuck ups?
As far as Nancy Pelosi tearing his speech, well, there's no love lost between these two. Most people don't realize or know that in her position she's the 2nd in line to the presidency behind the VicePresident. As a legislator she has help pass many important legislation.
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As far as her getting laid schedule, well, I doubt it's any worse than Melania"s, Our First Whore Of The Land.
A few years ago, a very prominent Congressman sent a very strong worded letter to the governor on NEW MEXICO. He told the governor that US policy is not MEXICO"S business. NEW MEXICO has been a state since 1912. So, yeah, we do stupid things, like electing the current jerk. What we also have is the most educated, the biggest pool of scientists from all walks of life, the most Diversified economy and the strongest military. We come, or used to come to the aid of any country who was trampled by a bigger one. We are still the policemen of the world .
The Aussies contributed 7,672 Australian soldiers in Vietnam, 531 killed, 3000 wounded. The USA lost 58,220 trying to protect the world from the Communist menace. Korea was bad and the US fought in World war two to save the world from another nightmare. Even in Australia.
I won't get used to this jerk. Because in this country we accept the decision of the electorate, we suffer the outcome, but, we also have the right to bitch until we are raw in the throat. And if the jerk performs a high crime or misdemeanor, we want him impeached.
Edit,yep,still making them
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I hope the House continues to investigate him. I hope the Democrats take the Senate in November.
It's funny how you people went after Obama, Hilary and Lisa Rise for years and now you complain when the shoe is on the other foot.
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He should never have been elected. He is a dishonest, crooked, really, president
Like I inferred, you have a right to your opinion. It's the way we are in this country. I also have that right.
One more thing. There are scores of Republicans who would make great presidents. It's the current jerk I have repugnance for.
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You know she has her own cigar factory and there hand dipped
Now it is a totaly different animal.
Ross pero was right about that big sucking sound,back then for sure. Monica and the big government,couldn't hear 1 for the other sucking!
I think 1 of the reasons ol Jimmy Peanut Carter was not regarded as a good president is perhaps he was a bit more honest than most.
And if you are asking about tough men in the oval office you won't find a tougher one than Lyndon Johnson. But I still thought that the Republican ideals were better than the democrats. I was a Republican still when I voted for Bill Clinton. I think what weighed heavy on my mind was the Iran/Contra affair and when I changed I never looked back
It's so embarrassing to have him as a president.
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Either way, you believe a PRESIDENT should be so uncaring of a major city of this country? If you do then your thinking prosses is flawed.
Think about a wall against the ocean the size required to hold back 100's of miles of ocean.Ok so if we built a wall for New york.Where does it start,where does it stop,and what stops the water from coming around either end? Build it all the way up to Canada and they would get flooded.Build it all the way around the texas border and the mexicans would get washed away. The wall would have no end until you got all the way around the US. Then,once it broke,the water could not escape,trapping us ALL.
Trump used his emergency authority to circumvent Congress on the border wall. He thinks he's the KING
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He invited the Taliban to Camp David
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He gave Turkey a greenlight to invade Syria and attack our Kurdish allies.
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Putins gun ready for a holster *lix*
and you to can become a president *lix*
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What has this country done to suffer this joke of a president?
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I won't mention trying to disarm law abiding citizens, putting 200,000+ people working for the power industry out of work, leagalizing infanticide, reparations, and getting rid of automobiles, airplanes, trains, and planes to name a few.
You know it is a sad,sick world when a admitted communist has a good chance of running as a democrat in 2020 USA.
A communist.Not just a liberal.
A true enemy of the state would be leading it if the libtards had their way.
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BTW, Phart, in our country, even a communist has the right to run for office and remember, if he wins, the voters put him there.
Sure sounds like the Trumpo administration.
People ask me, "Why not Trumpo? Give us a reason." There's more than one reason. There's over 15000 reasons. That's the number of lies he's told the American public since his first day in office. He's less believable than a used car salesman.
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Oh! And as if anyone on this site gives a fuck about who YOU endorse... ROFLMAO 😄😆🤣😂 Keep dreaming! You've displayed enough hypocrisy to numb any mind with a modicum of brains.
He did this, she did that, so laughable. Trumpo's been in office for 3yrs. When will he stand on his track record? Let me help you. The Iran-contra affair (Regan). Marilyn Monroe threesome (Kennedy brothers) Monica Lewinsky (the other Clinton).
Feel free to use when Trumpo does something else indefensible. BUT THE PROBLEM IS NOW. THIS JOKE OF A PRESIDENT IS NOT ONLY BREAKING THE LAW, HE'S DOWNRIGHT DANGEROUS.
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Let me guess... You win some and you lose some! Right? So what if they got some of that other shit wrong. 15,000 lies is ABSOLUTE truth this time. Wink wink
Here’s where all the 2020 Democratic candidates stand on abortion rights. They overwhelmingly support repealing the Hyde Amendment and codifying Roe v. Wade into law.
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A breath of fresh air from the Trumpo era.
It fits right in with the rest of the dimwitted liberal way.
Them poor criminals!
Society has cause most people to be criminals and therefore we should free them all. Let the drug peddlers AND users free (afterall, one is just pursuing free enterprise, while the other is just trying to cope from the pressures of an unfair society), thieves (Oh them poor thieves! Society is SO cruel), child molesters and traffickers (FREE them too, they are just looking for a better life in a better country), habitual drunken drivers (FREE them too, it's not their fault society has caused them to drink so much), MURDERERS... They should be FREED too, especially if they came from another country illegally, OR (my favorite) if they are Black (afterall, EVERYTHING they do wrong is SOLELY because of the white man). I could go on and on with the nutty shit you people want and say. But I'll spare the membership. Good luck getting that bullshit through, the Pres. will just stomp it out like the filthy roach of a law that it is. We will be set for a loooong time once he wins reelection, the pukes lose the house, and that not very impressive of an antique called Ruth Bader-Ginsberg dies or retires and the Don will be able to appoint yet another decent respectable judge. It's going to be another great year.
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After thinking on it for a moment. I just have to say... Your one of the BIGGEST fucking hypocrites to draw breath! Even moreso than the very politicians you love to laud over. So, you claim to be in the healthcare industry and your self righteous compassion is unmatched for your fellow man. Yet you condone murdering a child OR making some do as YOU see fit as long as it's something YOU believe in. That's some kind of fucked up, Your very being is SO immersed in hypocrisy it's disgusting! It's a wonder you can look at yourself in the mirror everyday. You speak of grandchildren as if you highly adore them, yet condone the very act that could have stopped them from existing. Pathetic!
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Next time a drunken dude who doesn't want to be a father punches her in the belly numerous times killing the unborn we should throw our hands up and declare oh well, no harm no foul, right!?
As usual, you missed the point. Getting punched by the drunken dude is not her CHOICE. You want to make it a murder vs a woman's right. Ok, I believe a woman should have the CHOICE to murder anything that's growing inside her. I say, "Get rid of the leech taking her life away."
HAPPY? And before you come crying it's against God's laws, let me remind you that you are all over the site trying to get or give a blow job. That is spilling your seed and half of that leech you think is so precious.
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You think I'm a hypocrite? How about you trying to deny affordable healthcare to that unwanted child? When was the last time you gave money for unwed mothers home? And, instead of getting your old lady prego, why didn't you adopt one of those unfortunate children? You and all the rest always think a pregnant woman that doesn't want to keep it got pregnant by being a whore or doing something wrong. Well,that's the hypocrite in YOU. Here's an idea. Let's create a tax of $100 per paycheck to go exclusively to the upbringing of unwanted children whose mothers are made to carry to term. Care to guess how many "upstanding" men and women suddenly will approve of abortion?
HYPOCRITE, YEAH!
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The God damned fucking thing is that they scream NO ABORTION-IT'S MURDER, but every single city and town in this country has an opioid and meth problem. Kids can buy guns at 18. We go to war at every "ASS-OF-THE-WORLD" nation where our kids DIE. Did you get that? They die. Every major city in this country has children dying of hunger. Every city in this country has children that are being prostituted. All because this country, the best of the best, won't help. Ah, but I forget myself. Candy, you forget God's soldiers. The priest, cardinals, reverands, rabbies.and all those other "men of the cloth". You know them. The ones that fuck little children in the name of Jesus or some such?
These children would have been spared so much suffering if ASSHOLE MEN WOULD STAY OUT OF OUR VAGINAS UNLESS INVITED.
If your mother had felt that way,you wouldn't be here.My mother lived a long time after I was born.My presence inside her did make some changes in her body BUT they were changes nature intended.It is called procreation.Or reproduce to carry on human kind to prevent extinction.
If murdering the baby 2 hours after it comes out of the chute is a crime,then it is a crime to kill it inside the chute.
The choice the woman made to allow herself the chance of getting a unwanted Leech as you call it,is the first bad choice she made.
The second bad choice was to be with a irresponsable male that has no interst in taking care of his creation.
The kid in there, kicking around,wanting out,can't speak for it's self.It's heart is beating,just like the mothers.It is another human being.It is not like taking your tonsils out like Elizabeth warren says. If you don't value a unborn child,how can you value a born child?
Inc3st,r@pe,and endangering the mothers life beyond any doubt should be the only reasons for the last resort of abortion to be a option.
Just because you got banged up when you fucked 6 guys and a donkey last month does not make it "ok" to go drop off the "leech" on the way to the shopping mall.That is murder.Period.
ANd HELL NO insurance should not cover abortion.That is no different than me calling the insurance company and saying,"Hey I want to pop a couple caps in some annoying neighbors,how much do you pay towards bullets?"
The real solution to the problem is taking responiablity for 1's actions.If a woman wants to fuck,fine,go tie the tubes or take a pill or get the 3 month shot. Ask a steady male partner to get his lines tied.Do something to eliminate the need for abortion in the first place.OR simply keep the zippers up and legs closed.
No I am not keeping up someone elses kids,I didn't make em,I aint feeding them.IF and that is a big if,I was ever married and the idea of raising a kid came up,I would go for adoption no problem.Less money out of pocket for health cost of my wife and less pain for her to go thru.And it gives a kid with little hope a chance.
You seem to advocate it is a womans right t be a whore. Whore perhaps,murderer,no.
Latin and black men don't wear condoms? Well, my goodness, the women need to bear that in mind when they part their legs don't they? "Um,If I don't want to pay for a abortion,I don't need to be fucking him".As for the 16 year old, well, if the parents didn't teach them,and the schools ran out of rubbers perhaps the male should go play bathroom bingo and get some condoms himself.
We disagree.Alot on this issue.
Responsiablity for 1's actions is a dieing concept.
In the mean time, we'll just keep expecting rational, civilized, responsible people to wipe their fucking noses for them and keep digging deeper giving more and more so that they can continue to live the life THEY want and fuck the responsible people.
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And why do you always say I wouldn’t understand? Just because you think your way is the right way anyone who disagrees doesn’t understand? I know what you are saying. I just don’t agree with your way of doing things. Your way and my way are both possible solutions. You keep trying to define people that support a woman’s right to choose as wanton, loose, scatter brain women who can’t control themselves or their men. That doesn’t say much for your respect of the female sex.
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Doesn’t it say something that the US Supreme Court, in Roe v Wade agreed with the woman? Doesn’t it say something that the majority of US women support pro-choose? Doesn’t it say something that intelligent, law abiding members of government from both parties support pro-choose?
Life is not something to take lightly.
If you walk up to a pregnant mother,and check her heart beat,you will also find a second 1 down a bit lower.
I can't disagree that childern are born unwanted and abused everyday.That is another problem that needs fixing.
But time would fix it IF people would change their ways.
Condoms can be had at any service station.Just as you say it is a womans right to choose,I could say it is her right to choose if a dick goes in her covered or uncovered.UNLESS you condone r@pe by these folks that don't wear them of course,they should either comply with the request or go find someone else to fuck.
That is what is hard to understand.The woman does not have to have sex with a unprotected dick if she does not want to get pregnant.Unless she is being r@ped.In that case the male should be jailed.
As for the supreme court,all Roe verse Wade says to me is there was a bunch of hipee sympathizers in the court system at the time.IF you take a minute to read what I said above,I am prochoice in the sense if the woman was r@ped or 1nest or danger to her health is indicated she should have a choice of aborting.
Abortions can be dangerous to you know.
To be in the medical field,your lack of compassion for the unborn concerns me as to the authenticy of your compassion for the born.Do you unplug old people ,because they are leeches? Do you unplug someone with brain damage? I mean where does the lack of compassion for human life stop and start for you? Not trying to be a ass, just trying to understand here.
I am sad to say,your concept needs some tweeking.
Life is not something to take lightly.
If you walk up to a pregnant mother,and check her heart beat,you will also find a second 1 down a bit lower.
I KNOW THAT, BUT NOT IN THE FIRST 30 DAYS. SO, NO HEART BEAT, NO INDEPENDENT LIFE.
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I can't disagree that childern are born unwanted and abused everyday.That is another problem that needs fixing.
But time would fix it IF people would change their ways.
IF PEOPLE WOULD CHANGE THEIR WAYS. PEOPLE SELDOM CHAGE THEIR WAYS. BRINGING A CHILD INTO A LIFE OF POVERTY IS ABUSE. SOME PREGNANT WOMEN, RIGHT OR WRONG, DON’T WANT THAT. IT’S THEIR RIGHT TO CHOOSE.
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Condoms can be had at any service station.Just as you say it is a womans right to choose,I could say it is her right to choose if a dick goes in her covered or uncovered.UNLESS you condone r@pe by these folks that don't wear them of course,they should either comply with the request or go find someone else to fuck.
I DON’T CONDONE R@PE EVEN IN MARRIAGE, BUT, AS YOU KNOW WELL, CATHOLICS ARE PREVENTED FROM USING CONTRACEPTIVES. THE CHURCH ONLY ALLOWS THE RHYTHM METHOD. THIS IS NOTORIOUSLY UNRELIABLE. A CONTRADICTION RIGHT? SHE FOLLOWS DOCTRINE ON CONTRACEPTION AND SINS ON ABORTION. WELL, THE HUSBAND MAY BE A STRICT CATHOLIC SO SHE CAN’T SAY NO TO HIM, BUT AFTER 7 KIDS HER INSIDES ARE FALLING OUT AND SHE DOESN’T WANT ANOTHER. ANOTHER THING, NO CONTRACEPTIVE IS 100% EFFECTIVE.
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That is what is hard to understand.The woman does not have to have sex with a unprotected dick if she does not want to get pregnant.Unless she is being r@ped.In that case the male should be jailed.
BUT ONCE R@PED SHE CAN’T TAKE IT BACK, AND IF YOU SAY THAT WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION THEN YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
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As for the supreme court,all Roe verse Wade says to me is there was a bunch of hipee sympathizers in the court system at the time.
the court held that a set of Texas statutes criminalizing abortion in most instances violated a woman’s constitutional right of privacy, which it found to be implicit in the liberty guarantee of the due process clause of the Fourteenth Amendment (“…nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law”).
NO HIPIES. JUST AN AFFIRMATION OF THE FOURTEENTH AMENDMENT TO THE CONSTITUTION. I FIND THAT PEOPLE THINK SOME AMENDMENTS (LIKE THE SECOND-RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS) SHOULD BE LISTENED TO AND OTHER AMENDMENTS SHOULD BE IGNORED. AGAIN, HYPOCRITES.
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IF you take a minute to read what I said above,I am prochoice in the sense if the woman was r@ped or 1nest or danger to her health is indicated she should have a choice of aborting.
Abortions can be dangerous to you know.
I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TRYING TO SAY BUT YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. THE CHILD IS INNOCENT OF THE ACTIONS OF HIS BIOLOGICAL PARENTS. R@PE DOES NOT CONCERN THE CHILD. YOU ARE SAYING, “IT’S MURDER BUT IT’S OK SOMETIMES.” YOU CAN’T HAVE YOUR CAKE AND EAT IT TOO.
AND YOU ARE RIGHT, ABORTIONS CAN BE DANGEROUS (ALTHOUGH THESE DAYS IT’S VERY SAFE), BUT THAT IS A CHOICE FOR THE WOMAN TO MAKE. NOT SOME LEGISLATIVE OLD FOGGY SMOKING A CIGAR IN A STATE LEGISLATURE.
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To be in the medical field,your lack of compassion for the unborn concerns me as to the authenticy of your compassion for the born.Do you unplug old people ,because they are leeches? Do you unplug someone with brain damage? I mean where does the lack of compassion for human life stop and start for you? Not trying to be a ass, just trying to understand here.
SOMETIMES MY CHOICE OF WORDS GET ME IN TROUBLE. I FIND THAT SOME PEOPLE WON’T READ MY WORDS. THEY ASSUME I SAID SOMETHING AND RUN WITH IT. THAT’S WHY I, SOMETIMES, USE TERMS THAT SHOCK THE READER. IT’S MEANT TO WAKE YOU UP TO WHAT I’M TRYING TO SAY.
TELL ME WHAT DOES SUPPORTING A WOMAN’S RIGHT TO CHOOSE AN ABORTION HAVE TO DO WITH MY CAREING FOR THE LIVING. I BELIEVE THAT LIFE IS PRECIOUS UNTIL THE VERY LAST SECOND OUR LORD SEES FIT TO LET US LIVE IT. I WOULD NO MORE “UNPLUG” AN OLD PERSON’S LIFE KEEPING DEVICES THAN HAVE AN ABORTION. TO ME, THE LIFE OF MY UNBORN CHILD IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN MY LIFE, BUT THAT IS MY CHOICE. THAT’S WHY I HAVE TO SUPPORT OTHER WOMEN’S CHOICE TOO. I KNOW THAT NO MATTER WHAT I SAY IT WILL NOT SATISFY YOU. I DON’T EXPECT IT. IF THIS COULD BE REASONED AWAY, 5000 YRS OF MISERY COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED. ALL I ASK IS UNDERSTANDING IF NOT AGREEMENT. SORRY FOR THE FORM OF ANSWER.
I GLADLY pay more taxes for Medicare. A friend of mine just passed from breast cancer and she had the best possible care and paid nothing out of pocket for it.
I can go to any hospital and see any doctor in my home province of Alberta for any legitimate procedure and never pay out of pocket. If I'm elsewhere in Canada there's more paperwork but Alberta Health Care will pay.
I have never filled out any paperwork for payment purposes.
Here is some simple math say national heath care is 4 trillion a year, from what I could find their are 155 million working people in the USA.
That's $25,806 per year in new taxes. Who has that kind of money. If anyone has different number let's hear them
It is estimated that the province of Alberta spent $5,100 per Albertan on health care in 2018.
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No hospitals in Canada are designed to make a profit as apposed to American hospitals.
One reason we can't do so easy vs other countries we spend our money on other thing. The biggest would be our military. If USA want to keep be the super power of the world it cost money. Trump just said we sent 2 trillion more on the military. Their is part of our national health care money.
Doctors in the USA have to make a profit to pay for the medical school and the hospitals have to make a profit and the insurance companies have to make a profit. We have a lot of illegal citizens in the USA. If they go to hospital, we have to pay for them if they don't have health insurance.
Who is "they" that said it would cost $34-52T?
There are many examples in the Western World of how to pay for universal healthcare. It can be done.
I doubt that your number is correct.
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If the US population of 372M had healthcare for the same price as Alberta's per capita of $5,100 per year it would cost about $1.9T. Even if you double that it would still be less than $4T, nowhere near the $34-52T that "they" say.
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A tax cut of $1.5 trillion plus the crumbs for the average taxpayer. Simple math, friend.
BTW, Medicare is paid by the following
Medicare is financed by two trust funds: the Hospital Insurance (HI) trust fund and the Supplementary Medical Insurance (SMI) trust fund. The HI trust fund finances Medicare Part A and collects its income primarily through a payroll tax on U.S. workers and employers. The SMI trust fund, which supports both Part B and Part D, receives most of its income from the federal government’s general fund because premiums only cover about one-quarter of this fund’s costs. Part C, on the other hand, is paid for through both the HI and SMI trust funds and collects its income from a combination of the general fund, payroll taxes, premiums paid by beneficiaries, and out-of-pocket charges.
These trust funds were specifically established to pay for Medicare. Medicare for all would include the rest of the population. I would gladly vote to cut our military spending to help out. Your Trumpo ran on promises to get us out of these forever wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. We are still waiting. In the meantime he cuts corporate taxes. Smart.
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I THOUGHT I WOULD POST THIS SEPARATE AS IT"S IMPORTANT.
The U.S. government's public debt is now more than $22 trillion — the highest it has ever been. The Treasury Department data comes as tax revenue has fallen and federal spending continues to rise. The new debt level reflects {{{{{{{a rise of more than $2 trillion from the day President Trump took office in 2017.Feb 13, 2019}}}}}}
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And last but not least. This country is rich with wealth. We are a country of the people, by the people and for the people. Yet, many of it's citizens are willing to have our population suffer hunger and pestilence in the name of the almighty dollar. I say, "Quit bitching about our social programs like Medicare, Social Security, Food Stamps, Unemployment Insurance and Socialized Medicine. Find a way to pay for it instead of being SO NEGATIVE."
Just asking for actuall ideas here.Politicians pushing for this cradle to grave can't explain how to pay for it,and I can understand why,they are dumbass puppets of the Soros and liberal wealthy people that hide their money in foriegn lands.
TRUMP’S TAX CUTS: THE RICH GET RICHER
Published — April 11, 2019
YOU PAID TAXES. THESE CORPORATIONS DIDN’T.
Amazon.com Inc.’s U.S. profits before taxes were $10.8 billion in 2018, made by shipping everything from women’s cocktail dresses to toilet paper. But unlike its millions of customers, the company paid no taxes in the United States last year and said it was owed $129 million. (AP Photo/David Zalubowski)
About twice as many of the largest U.S. companies reported they didn’t owe taxes in 2018 compared with previous years, a partial result of the 2017 Trump tax law, according to a report.
You paid taxes. These corporations didn’t.
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We pay all required taxes
Profits: Half a billion. Refund: $342M
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Taxpayers are scrambling to make last-minute payments due to the Internal Revenue Service in just four days, but many of the country’s largest publicly-held corporations are doing better: They’ve reported they owe absolutely nothing on the billions of dollars in profits they earned last year.
At least 60 companies reported that their 2018 federal tax rates amounted to effectively zero, or even less than zero, on income earned on U.S. operations, according to an analysis released today by the Washington, D.C.-based think tank, the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy. The number is more than twice as many as ITEP found roughly, per year, on average in an earlier, multi-year analysis before the new tax law went into effect.
Among them are household names like technology giant Amazon.com Inc. and entertainment streaming service Netflix Inc., in addition to global oil giant Chevron Corp., pharmaceutical manufacturer Eli Lilly & Co., and farming and commercial equipment manufacturer Deere & Co.
The identified companies were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to the ITEP report, which was released today. “Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year.” To compile the list, ITEP analyzed the 2018 financial filings of the country’s largest 560 publicly-held companies.
The following is a list of the country’s largest publicly-held profitable corporations that paid no federal income taxes in 2018 on billions in U.S. income, according to ITEP analysis of 560 companies. ITEP reports U.S. income before federal taxes, and takes into consideration paid state and local taxes, which could reduce or increase U.S. income. The report does not look at total tax provision, a number that could include foreign taxes and deferred taxes. All figures, except for tax rate, are in millions.
The identified companies were “able to zero out their federal income taxes on $79 billion in U.S. pretax income,” according to the ITEP report, which was released today. “Instead of paying $16.4 billion in taxes, as the new 21 percent corporate tax rate requires, these companies enjoyed a net corporate tax rebate of $4.3 billion, blowing a $20.7 billion hole in the federal budget last year.” To compile the list, ITEP analyzed the 2018 financial filings of the country’s largest 560 publicly-held companies.
I say, "Remove all loopholes from corporate income taxes. Bring the rate back to 35%. Have all recipients of Medicare for All pay a modest monthly amount except for hardship situations. Regulate medical procedures (price equality) and open medication to generics and out of country meds and regulate costs of development and profit.
Not saying I don't agree at all with what you are saying.
As far as mdicine,if there is a way to make sure it is quality and we would be getting what we are paying for,I am all for getting it from the cheapest source.It would reduce cost alot because it would prompt competition.
It is also my understanding that insurance is territorial. I would say fix that to open up competition as well.THere are ways to reduce cost,but gouging our industry and investors and high end tax payers can backfire.
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One more thing. Charlie takes Eliquist because he has atrial fibrillation. Without insurace he would have to pay $480 for a month's supply (60). With insurance it's $ 43. Charlie has family in Argentina. The same medication costs about $6. We are getting ripped off.
Another thing corporation can move. If the tax is to hight they can just move to another country and now you don't get any taxes. You can't force people to do something just because YOU want something for free. You can go and help but food for anyone you think needs help. You can give your money to anyone that needs help. You can do lots of things to help people yourself. If you can figure out how to pay for national heath care and it's reasonable he might go with your idea.
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And your argument is flawed. After all, aren't we, now, paying for the taxes a corporation pays today? A few hundred thousand dollars more divided by a million customers is less than a buck.
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We can't even pay the 21 trillion national debt currently. How are we going to pay for an extra 20 trillion for national heath care ? If we could or would pay down the current national debt I would say it's possible. We as Americans don't want to even balance the budget yet.
Beginning with the 1998 budget year, during his second term, the federal government ran a yearly budget surplus through FY 2001. During the Clinton administration, there was an official surplus of $419 billion during fiscal years 1998, 1999, 2000, and 2001.
Also, National Health Care does not have to be voted on. Congress can pass one or more bills to create it. The voters did not vote for Social Security, Medicare, or Obama Care.
It can be done. There'll have to be some adjustments. The insurance companies will have to be included as they are the most knowledgeable. Assurances will have to be made to healthcare providers that they wouldn't be financially hurt. But, when everything is said and done, can anyone really be against warrantied affordable health care for all?
If you have different numbers put them on here. Can you afford to pay your share of the 20 trillion, $12,900 that's what it will cost this year in more taxes.
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How Much Will Medicare for All Cost?
FEB 27, 2019 | HEALTH CARE
Senator Sanders's 2017 legislation would cost the federal government $27.7 trillion through 2028 assuming steep provider cuts and $32.1 trillion assuming no provider cuts (these estimates, like most others, assume immediate implementation).Importantly, these totals represent the increased cost to the federal government, not the change of total national health expenditures. National health expenditures would likely change by no more than a few trillion dollars over the decade. The direction of that change is unclear and would depending on the whether the increased cost of expanding coverage (by making health insurance more generous and offering it to more people) is larger or smaller than the amount saved from lower provider payments, drug payments, and administrative spending.
The totals also do not represent debt impact, which would depend not only on the cost to the federal government but also on any funds the government might choose to raise through premiums, taxes, or both. For example, Senator Sanders's campaign plan included roughly $11 trillion of tax increases, which could fund more than one-third of Medicare for All.
IN PARTICULAR I WANT YOU TO NOTE THIS SENTENCE:
"expenditures would likely change by no more than a few trillion dollars over the decade"
I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOU GOT YOUR NUMBERS BUT I SUSPECT YOU GOT THE HEADLINE ONLY AND YOU MADE YOUR ASSUMPTIONS WITHOUT MAKING AN IN DEPTH RESEARCH.
Did you see were it says the number would be an INCREASE COST to federal government
Importantly, these totals represent the increased cost to the federal government, not the change of total national health expenditures. National health expenditures would likely change by no more than a few trillion dollars over the decade. The direction of that change is unclear and would depending on the whether the increased cost of expanding coverage (by making health insurance more generous and offering it to more people) is larger or smaller than the amount saved from lower provider payments, drug payments, and administrative spending.
While any new revenue would in part be replacing current premiums, identifying pay-fors still remains a challenge. Enacting this type of Medicare for All would mean increasing federal spending by about 60 percent (excluding interest), and financing a $30 trillion program would require the equivalent of tripling payroll taxes or more than doubling all other taxes.
Supporters of Medicare for All should work to identify new revenue, premiums, and/or spending cuts to finance new federal costs or else scale back their proposal if they are unable to identify sufficient funding.
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The politcians pay for their states piss ant testicale museums and bridges and your health care all out of the same pot of public money.So health care would run up the national debt.
IF you owe a house payment,and that bank goes tits up,they expect their money in full. So it is not impossiable for other countrys to want their money.
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Democratic front-runner Joe Biden on Monday unveiled a health plan that’s intended to preserve the most popular parts of Obamacare — from Medicaid expansion to protections for patients with preexisting conditions — and build on them with a new government-run public insurance option.
Biden would also empower Medicare to directly negotiate drug prices, allow the importation of prescription drugs from abroad and extend tax credits to help tens of millions of Americans buy lower-priced health insurance.
The plan — which the campaign says will cost $750 billion over a decade, to be paid for by reversing some of the Trump administration’s tax cuts — is less transformative than the “Medicare for All” proposal advanced by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) and supported by some other Democrats, which would effectively do away with private insurance and shift all Americans to government-run health coverage.
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I always thought that building on Obama-Care was the best way to go. Fixing the problems and expanding coverage makes sense. It's also less expensive. Let's see how the other candidates refute the numbers.
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Regardless, if you have insurance through your employer, you are part of the Obama-Care system. Almost all candidates have stated they would support the option for a person to keep their private insurance. Let me ask you, "If you get laid off or get fired or your employer closes, how would you afford to get health insurance for you and your family today? You and like minded people always think about yourself. You make it personal,but you don't take into account the less fortunate. People who are out of work or working for an employer who won't pay a portion of health insurance. You are lucky not to have to think about that so how about thinking about these fellow citizens?
BTW. It's personal for me. My youngest son works for a small(17 employees) but very successfully IT firm. He makes good money and gets good treatment but his boss, the owner, refuses to pay for insurance. My son can only afford insurance for him. My daughter-in-law and my grandkids are un-insured. So, baby, I'm not dictating to you what insurance to buy. Frankly, I couldn't care less if you were dying outside an ER and refused treatment because of insurance issues, but I like to take some responsibility for the betterment of my fellow citizens. That equates to loving my country.
Health insurance.
WHy is it so exspensive?HUm,could it be that it is expected to pay for things not life saving? Like for example,a couple decides to have 3 kids and insurance has 3 more people to pay for? Something that was NOT a accident,not needed,nor anyone's elses responsiablity.1 child covered, the rest are the parents responseabilty.
And while i am at it,let the parents cover ALL education cost from preschool thru college for child 2 thru infinity.I bet parents would think twice about spitting out 6 kids if THEY had to bear the cost instead of the whole damn country.Just think,the money wasted on education, could be spent to help those with serious medical issues without being a burden to anyone.
Insurance should not be expected to cover child birth,abortion or birth control.Keep your legs shut and your zippers closed.
Insurance should not cover cost of sex changes. Be happy with your plumbing or pay to change it yourself.
Smoke,you are on your own.
Drink,you are on your own.
Do drugs,you are on your own.
Your bad habits are NOT the rest of the worlds problems,they are YOURS and YOURS alone.So pay for it.
I could go on.And I understand there has to be meeting in the middle on things.I am just giving you the extreme end of my feelings on this subject.I don't feel my ideas are any more radical than the idea of health care for all,deadbeats included.
I lost my 80-20 coverage,it is now 70-30 and my copays are double thanks that asshat Obama and his big idea. Why should I loose coverage so some dope head gets his treatment paid for ,for the 27th time? It aint working,so ditch the bastard to the curb.And yes,I do personaly know a man,would have been in my graduating class,that has been to drug rehab,at government exspense at least 27 times.prison twice and so on.
He aint your problem,nor mine,but we spend on him anyway.Anytime a fellow will put a gun to his mothers head to get her diamond ring that his dead father put on her finger just he could pawn it to get drugs,does not need nor deserave public help,he deserves a kick to the curb.Next time the bastard od's, maby it will be his last.
Phart, If you pay for medical insurance, why shouldn't you be able to claim as many births or other visits to the hospital? Why not get coverage for boob enhancements? When many countries in the world, many our enemies, pay completely for education including college, why should this country be second best? And the dopehead, let him die?
With all due respect, and believe me I'm very sorry for your situation, I believe you are so bitter you want others to suffer your suffering.
Paying for health insurance, lets se you pay 130 a month.that is,1560 a year,62,400 for 40 years coverage.
Average heart attack cost what?,lets see ,let me copy and paste this.
"Heart attack hospitalizations cost a median $53,384 and strokes cost $31,218, according to the study. ... Neither study factored in additional costs following hospitalization, such as loss of productivity from missing work or ongoing medical care and drugs, "
You know far better than I do those figures are small.But that is what was handy from google. So your roughly 64,000 dollar investment would barely cover 1 heart attack.Granted,your employer is paying some towards it as well.BUT still, unless the intrest rate is high,the insurance company is not making alot of money.
BUT the insurance company, is not just spending money to cover your work- stress related heart attack,it is also having to pay for little 12 year old Johny's hormones because he woke up last week thinking he was a girl.It is also having to pay for some idiot od'ing on drugs ruining his kidneys and liver.
Insurance companys could easly declare bank ruptcy and leave us all hanging at that rate.
I say get the medicine from where ever is cheapest.
Don't the pro abortion people say,"My body my choice" Let's borrow that missinformed idea a minute and apply it somewhere it makes sense.
Fine,your body,choose to buy medicine where you want to.
The dopehead I spoke of,,if that thievin' bastard od's,and falls over in the woods behind the shed his brother lets him sleep in,well,he created his own fate.I doubt the buzzards would eat him,he is so full of impuritys the maggots and ants would probably barricade themselves away from him.His body is probably so pickled it would lay in state to be found a 1000 years from now prompting a rewrite of history as they knew it.
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You must be one of the "crazies" I mentioned.
Move along to another thread and enjoy life to the fullest.No need to get your drawers in a wad over 1 thread or another.
Besides,have you ever tried to discuss politics on craigslist community or whereever? Bunch of assholes that can't get along 4 minutes.
This bunch can talk it out,argue,blacklist,cuss whatever,and still get along to a point. There honestly seems to be more intelligence here than on other platforms.
The Laura Ingraham Show
The Rush Limbaugh Show
The Sean Hannity Show
The Mark Levin Show
The Savage Nation
The Lars Larson Show
The Alex Jones Show
The Ben Shapiro Show
The Buck Sexton Show
All good "liberals"
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HAHAHA
My 401k retirement is doing great with the economy.
If people like paying for other people stuff, I just want to remind everyone you can write a check to IRS anytime you want. So who writing a check ? Let me guess no one want to give away their money
I'm glad your 401k is doing great, but thank the central bank and Obama era economic principles that have been in effect since 2014.
The national debt is just that, a debt. We can default just like many other countries. So what? And remember, it's so high because of this administration.
I think you've been given a bunch of crap to repeat like a parrot. I bet you think any negative stuff about the Prez is fake news.
You don't see Trump getting in office and now having the lowest unemployment rates and best economy. Look what Apple Computer did with that boat load of money they had in Ireland. When Trump lowered the Corporate Tax Rates. Apple paid the taxes on all the money they had and brought it in the USA. That was all Trump.
d and the economy contracted 2.5 percent in 2009.
The Obama administration then confronted the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression when it initially took office. It passed a massive stimulus package in February 2009 to jumpstart the economy — and it was successful. The Congressional Budget Office said in a report that GDP growth was higher from 2009-2012 in part due to the package.
Trump has benefited from Obama's economic stewardship, as GDP growth under his watch has consistently been between two to three percent. In 2018, it was 2.9 percent. Economic forecasters, however, expect the nation's steady GDP growth to slow down in 2019, dragged down by trade tensions and weaker growth overseas.
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I see some good with a whole bunch of bad and that bad is other stuff than what happens to your pocket.
Oil bounced up a few dollars for a couple days. Now look at the recent figures.
Price Change
2020.01.08 - $ 59.61 -3.09 -5.18%
1 Year Forecast
$68 / Barrel
That is a 3 dollar a barrel drop in 1 day.
That means the oil industry has confidence in Trumps abilty to handle the situation.Yes, Chevron and other companys have pulled their workers out of that area as their lives are important.But the MONEY investors, are not worried.
And if the big money is not worried,we as a people should not worry.
USA, of course. The main reason for this possibility is the
bizarre election law. The looser becomes the winner!
A fourth world country with this law...
President 10 times and a crazy, dishonest 1. Hopefully not for long.Trump is scary. He can, literally, destroy the world.
BUT Trump Loves life,pussy and money to much to want to distroy the world or himself.So why would he?
Now if little Rocket man some of them folks over yonder over the oil puddle take a notion to bump the button they could wipe us all out.Trump is not the only 1 with the power to take out moma earth. ANd he is the least likely to use it of all the world leaders right now.BUT he is letting them think he would use it.
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Must be too much of a man for you in that case...
But we don't. It gets boiled down to a devil we know or a devil we don't and the fight is on.
As a independant,I feel like my only logical choice is Trump.Why? He has Americas intrest ahead of all else. That matters to me.
I do think that melania has nice tits though.